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October 27, 2016
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Matt & Laurie Crouch host The Undoing of Saint Silvanus with Beth Moore

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  • FROM COAST TO COAST AND AROUND
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  • THE WORLD...
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  • PRAISE THE LORD
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  • LET EVERY NATION REJOICE
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  • PRAISE THE LORD
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  • WITH ONE MIGHTY VOICE
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  • JOINING US FROM THE
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  • INTERNATIONAL PRODUCTION CENTER
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  • EVANGELIST, AUTHOR AND BIBLE
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  • TEACHER, FEATURING HER NEW
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  • FICTION NOVEL, "THE UNDOING OF
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  • ST. SYLVANUS,"
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  • READY TO TAKE YOUR CALLS
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  • ARE PRAYER PARTNERS FROM
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  • AROUND THE AMERICA!
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  • PRAISE THE LORD,
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  • LET EVERY NATION REJOICE!
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  • PRAISE THE LORD
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  • WITH ONE MIGHTY VOICE!
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  • PRAISE THE LORD...
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  • PRAISE THE LORD...
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  • AND NOW YOUR HOSTS...
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  • MATTHEW & LAURIE CROUCH
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  • - MATT: THIS IS A VERY, VERY,
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  • VERY SPECIAL PRAISE THE LORD
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  • PROGRAM BECAUSE IT'S ALL ABOUT
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  • STORY.
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  • - YES.
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  • - OKAY.
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  • YOU KNOW WHAT?
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  • JESUS TOLD STORIES.
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  • READ MATTHEW 13, LONG
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  • STORYTELLING AFTERNOON FOR
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  • JESUS.
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  • THE DISCIPLES COME AND SAY WHY
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  • DO YOU TELL STORIES?
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  • HE SAYS, TO CREATE READINESS.
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  • TO NUDGE PEOPLE TOWARDS
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  • RECEPTIVE INSIGHT OF THE KINGDOM
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  • OF GOD.
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  • WE ARE TELLING STORIES ABOUT
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  • "THE UNDOING OF SAINT SILVANUS".
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  • BETH MOORE, YOU ARE A
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  • STORYTELLER.
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  • - I HAVE TO TELL YOU GUYS.
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  • I'M SO HAPPY TO BE ON HERE WITH
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  • YOU, I DO NOT KNOW WHAT TO DO.
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  • I LOVE SITTING HERE STARING AT
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  • YOU AND GRINNING AT YOU BECAUSE
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  • I KNOW SO MANY FUNNY STORIES ON
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  • YOU AT THIS POINT, SPEAKING OF
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  • STORIES, MMM-HMM.
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  • - STORYTELLER BETH MOORE.
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  • LET'S STAY FOCUSED ON YOUR
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  • STORY.
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  • - I BET YOU WANT ME TO.
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  • - YOUR FIRST NOVEL EVER.
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  • - YES.
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  • ALL THESE YEARS I GUESS, LET'S
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  • SEE, 23 YEARS OF NONFICTION WORK
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  • PUBLISHING NONFICTION BOOKS,
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  • IT HAS SORT OF BEEN IN MY HEART
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  • A LONG TIME, NOT REALLY TO WRITE
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  • A NOVEL, BUT JUST WONDERING IF
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  • I WOULD TAKE THE TIME, IF GOD
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  • WOULD PRIORITIZE THE TIME FOR ME
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  • TO LET A STORY GO AND JUST SEE
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  • WHERE IT TAKES ME.
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  • SO, IT HAS BEEN A TON OF FUN.
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  • - WE HAVE ALL KNOWN BETH AS THE
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  • GREAT BIBLE STUDY TEACHER.
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  • SHE IS JUST AMAZING, IF YOU'VE
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  • NEVER STEPPED INTO THAT WORLD OF
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  • BETH'S, HER AND JESUS' WORLD, IT
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  • IS JUST AMAZING WITH SO MANY
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  • BEAUTIFUL BIBLE STUDIES.
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  • HER FIRST NOVEL, AMAZING.
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  • WE ARE PROUD YOU.
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  • YOU DID IT!
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  • - WE ARE IN THE FIRST MINUTE OF
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  • WHERE DO YOU WANT TO START?
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  • DO YOU WANT TO START BY TELLING
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  • US A LITTLE ABOUT THE NOVEL OR
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  • DO YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT WHY
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  • YOU TELL STORIES?
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  • - I WOULD LOVE TO TALK ABOUT
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  • WHY I TELL STORIES.
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  • I THINK IT'S AN IMPORTANT PART
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  • OF COMMUNICATING A MESSAGE.
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  • - SURE.
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  • - TO USE, JUST AS YOU SAID WITH
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  • JESUS IN PARABLES, TO USE THE
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  • KNOWN TO EXPRESS OR CONVEY THE
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  • UNKNOWN, THAT IS THE HEART OF
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  • I LOVE STORY SINCE EARLY
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  • CHILDHOOD.
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  • I DO NOT REMEMBER LIFE PRIOR TO
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  • THIS POINT.
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  • I REMEMBER BEING A LITTLE BITTY
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  • KID, BUT I REALLY DON'T REMEMBER
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  • EVER FORMULATING MY IMAGINATION
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  • IN THE WAY GOD WOULD CONTINUE TO
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  • COMMUNICATE IT TO ME UNTIL I WAS
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  • ABOUT FIVE YEARS OLD AND MY DAD
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  • RETIRED FROM THE MILITARY.
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  • I WAS THE NEXT TO YOUNGEST KID
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  • IN A VERY LARGE FAMILY.
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  • HE RETIRED FROM THE MILITARY AND
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  • HE BEGAN MANAGING THE ONE-SCREEN
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  • MOVIE THEATER IN OUR SMALL TOWN.
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  • THIS WAS WAY BACK IN
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  • ARKEDELPHIA, ARKANSAS.
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  • AND THE DRIVE-IN, I HAVE TO MAKE
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  • SURE THAT IS SAID, THE THEATER
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  • THAT WAS ON MAIN STREET, ONE
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  • SCREEN AND RIGHT ON THE EDGE OF
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  • TOWN WE HAD THE DRIVE-IN.
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  • MY MOTHER WAS AN AVID READER.
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  • SHE PRACTICALLY HAD A BOOK IN
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  • EACH HAND.
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  • THERE WAS THE BOOK SHE WAS
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  • FINISHING AND THE BOOK SHE WAS
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  • PICKING UP.
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  • SHE WAS ALWAYS TRYING TO GET TO
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  • THE END OF THIS ONE SO SHE COULD
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  • PICK THIS ONE UP.
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  • I GOT LOST IN A WORLD OF
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  • STORIES.
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  • I WAS RAISED LITERALLY IN THOSE
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  • DAYS.
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  • THIS WOULD BE SO ODD TO PEOPLE
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  • THAT ARE YOUNGER THAN I AM, BUT
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  • IN THOSE DAYS, IN A SMALL TOWN
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  • IN A ONE-SCREEN THEATER A MOVIE
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  • WOULD STAY DEPENDING ON HOW GOOD
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  • IT WAS MUSICAL, "SOUND OF MUSIC"
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  • IT WOULD STAY MAYBE 3 WEEKS.
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  • I WOULD SEE THAT ONE MOVIE, THAT
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  • IS WHERE MY DAD WORKED.
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  • WE WERE IN AND OUT OF IT ALL THE
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  • TIME.
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  • TO WALK BEHIND THE COUNTER, BY
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  • THE TIME I COULD REACH OVER THE
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  • COUNTER WAS SERVING POPCORN AND
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  • REACHING UP SO I COULD DO THE
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  • FOUNTAIN DRINK WITH THE COKE,
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  • PULLING POPCORN INTO A BAG AND
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  • PUTTING IT ON THE COUNTER.
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  • THIS WAS MY WORLD.
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  • IN AND OUT OF THE THEATER ALL
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  • THE TIME, CAPTIVATED BY A STORY.
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  • SO, IT WAS MY FATE.
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  • I WAS GOING TO LOVE THAT MEDIUM
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  • NO MATTER WHAT.
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  • SO, IT JUST TOOK.
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  • IT TOOK TO THE BONE.
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  • I LOVE PEOPLE STORIES.
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  • SO, THAT IS JUST THE BEST OF ALL
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  • WORLDS TO ME.
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  • - SO YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT
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  • GROWING UP WHERE YOUR DADDY WAS
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  • RESPONSIBLE FOR TELLING STORIES
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  • TO YOUR WHOLE TOWN.
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  • - I NEVER THOUGHT OF IT THAT
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  • WAY.
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  • HE ABSOLUTELY WAS.
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  • EVERY BIT OF IT, I WANT YOU GUYS
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  • TO THINK, I THINK EVERYBODY WILL
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  • BE ABLE TO RELATE TO THIS.
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  • IT IS FULL SENSORY TO ME.
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  • WHEN I THINK BACK OF MY
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  • UPBRINGING I HAD HARD PARTS OF
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  • MY UPBRINGING, SO ANYBODY THAT
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  • HAS THAT KIND OF MIXTURE LIKE I
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  • DO, BOY, YOU ALSO WANT TO RECALL
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  • WHAT BRINGS BACK WARM MEMORIES
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  • TO YOU, THE GOOD IN THE MIDST OF
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  • THE BAD AND UGLY.
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  • THIS WAS A REALLY WONDERFUL PART
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  • OF MY LIFE.
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  • IT'S FULL SENSORY.
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  • I CAN SMELL THE POPCORN WHEN I
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  • THINK ABOUT IT.
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  • I CAN TASTE THE COKE.
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  • I CAN FEEL THE STICKINESS ON THE
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  • BOTTOM OF MY SHOES AS I AM
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  • WALKING OUT OF THE AISLE
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  • WHEREVER I WAS SITTING IN THE
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  • THEATER.
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  • YOU KNOW HOW IT WAS, EVERYONE
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  • WOULD SPILL THEIR COKES AND DOWN
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  • THEY GO.
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  • I COULD STILL FEEL THE SEATS
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  • FELT WHEN I SAT ON THE CUSHIONS
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  • AND HOW THEY SOUNDED WHEN WE
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  • STOOD UP AND WE POPPED AGAINST
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  • THE BACK OF IT.
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  • FULL SENSORY EXPERIENCE.
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  • YES, IT WAS HUGE.
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  • THEN, WHEN I WAS IN THE MIDDLE
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  • OF HIGH SCHOOL WE MOVED TO
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  • HOUSTON.
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  • THAT IS WHEN HE STARTED MANAGING
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  • FULL MULTI-SCREEN THEATERS.
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  • IT WAS ALL OVER BUT THE CRYING
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  • THEN.
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  • I WAS THE CHEAPEST DATE IN TOWN
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  • BECAUSE I COULD GO TO ANY MOVIE
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  • THEATER FOR FREE AND SO COULD MY
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  • DATE.
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  • SO EVERY SINGLE TIME I WAS
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  • PICKED UP FOR A DATE, THEY
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  • ALWAYS WANTED TO GO TO THE
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  • MOVIES.
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  • - THEY ARE EXPENSIVE NOW.
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  • - YES.
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  • (LAUGHTER)
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  • - WHY ARE YOU RED FACED, MATT?
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  • - NO REASON. I NEVER HAD
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  • ANYONE SAY THAT EXACT PHRASE ON
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  • THE PRAISE PROGRAM.
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  • IF YOU JUST TUNED IN, OUR
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  • DELIGHTFUL GUEST IS BETH MOORE.
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  • SHE IS INSIDE OF A NEW MEDIUM
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  • AND IT IS NOVELIZATION.
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  • YOU ARE A NOVELIST NOW.
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  • THAT'S A REALLY EXCITING THING.
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  • - I DON'T KNOW IF I AM OR NOT.
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  • IT'S MY FIRST TRY AT IT.
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  • BUT I GOT TO TELL YOU, I REALLY
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  • TRULY LOVED THE EXPERIENCE.
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  • - WOW!
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  • - I DID.
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  • - HOW LONG DID IT TAKE YOU TO
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  • WRITE THIS?
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  • - YOU WILL NOT BELIEVE IT,
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  • LAURIE, ABOUT 3 AND A HALF
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  • YEARS.
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  • I WILL TELL YOU WHY.
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  • MY LIFE IS BIBLE STUDY.
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  • I'M A TEACHER BY CALLING.
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  • I PRAY TO DO THAT AS LONG AS GOD
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  • WILL LET ME FOR THE REST OF MY
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  • DAYS AS LONG AS I HAVE BREATH.
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  • AND MY MIND, PLEASE, LORD, THAT
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  • IS WHAT I WANT TO DO.
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  • I WOULD NOT HAVE DONE THIS FULL
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  • TIME.
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  • IT CERTAINLY DID SOMETHING FOR
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  • MY HEART AND I DID SOMETHING FOR
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  • MY IMAGINATION AND ALL SORTS OF
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  • WAYS MY SOUL WAS BUILT UP
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  • THROUGH IT, BUT IT DOES NOT
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  • BUILD UP MY SPIRIT, I LOVE TO
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  • STUDY, I LOVE RESEARCH.
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  • I COULD NOT DO IT FULL TIME.
  • 00:08:54.160 --> 00:08:57.160
  • SO LITERALLY, I FINISHED ONE
  • 00:08:57.160 --> 00:08:59.050
  • BIBLE STUDY AT THE TIME I
  • 00:08:59.050 --> 00:09:01.030
  • STARTED IT, WROTE ANOTHER ONE
  • 00:09:01.030 --> 00:09:03.110
  • AND STOPPED IN BETWEEN AND WROTE
  • 00:09:03.110 --> 00:09:04.090
  • ANOTHER ONE.
  • 00:09:04.090 --> 00:09:06.100
  • SO THIS TOOK PLACE OVER
  • 00:09:06.100 --> 00:09:08.230
  • TWO-AND-A-HALF BIBLE STUDIES.
  • 00:09:08.230 --> 00:09:11.040
  • SO I WAS JUST DOING IT ON THE
  • 00:09:11.040 --> 00:09:12.100
  • SIDE.
  • 00:09:12.100 --> 00:09:14.110
  • WHAT I TOLD LAURIE EARLIER,
  • 00:09:14.110 --> 00:09:16.020
  • MATT, I DON'T THINK I TOLD YOU,
  • 00:09:16.020 --> 00:09:18.190
  • I DIDN'T EVEN TELL MY FAMILY I
  • 00:09:18.190 --> 00:09:20.030
  • WAS DOING IT FOR A YEAR.
  • 00:09:20.030 --> 00:09:21.270
  • I WAS AFRAID THEY WOULD KILL ME.
  • 00:09:21.270 --> 00:09:23.190
  • I THOUGHT THIS WILL NEVER REALLY
  • 00:09:23.190 --> 00:09:24.110
  • COME TO ANYTHING.
  • 00:09:24.110 --> 00:09:26.290
  • I JUST DID IT.
  • 00:09:26.290 --> 00:09:28.150
  • IF I GOT A LITTLE TIME, KEITH
  • 00:09:28.150 --> 00:09:30.010
  • WOULD GO OUT OF TOWN, THE GIRLS
  • 00:09:30.010 --> 00:09:31.150
  • WOULD NOT BE THERE.
  • 00:09:31.150 --> 00:09:33.120
  • I WOULD SIT DOWN AND GET LOST IN
  • 00:09:33.120 --> 00:09:34.280
  • THIS WORLD I NEVER KNEW WHAT
  • 00:09:34.280 --> 00:09:36.120
  • WOULD HAPPENED NEXT.
  • 00:09:36.120 --> 00:09:38.040
  • I WENT WITH THE NEXT THING AND
  • 00:09:38.040 --> 00:09:38.260
  • THE NEXT THING.
  • 00:09:38.260 --> 00:09:41.050
  • - HOW MUCH OF IT DID YOU HAVE
  • 00:09:41.050 --> 00:09:42.170
  • DONE BEFORE YOU TOLD THE KIDS OR
  • 00:09:42.170 --> 00:09:43.150
  • KEITH?
  • 00:09:43.150 --> 00:09:45.220
  • - PROBABLY DONE, WOULD I SAY,
  • 00:09:46.190 --> 00:09:49.190
  • MAYBE TEN CHAPTERS.
  • 00:09:49.190 --> 00:09:51.290
  • I TOLD ONE FIRST TO SEE HOW THAT
  • 00:09:51.290 --> 00:09:53.100
  • WAS GOING TO GO.
  • 00:09:53.100 --> 00:09:55.120
  • THE REASON WHY I TOLD IT IN THE
  • 00:09:55.120 --> 00:09:58.010
  • ORDER I DID, MY OLDEST DAUGHTER
  • 00:09:58.010 --> 00:10:00.070
  • IS THE MOST PROTECTIVE ONE IN MY
  • 00:10:00.070 --> 00:10:02.160
  • FAMILY JUST OF MY TIME.
  • 00:10:02.160 --> 00:10:04.220
  • JUST TO MAKE SURE I GOT ALL THE
  • 00:10:04.220 --> 00:10:07.180
  • REST THAT SHE WANTS ME TO HAVE
  • 00:10:07.180 --> 00:10:08.180
  • AND SABBATH.
  • 00:10:08.180 --> 00:10:10.050
  • SHE WAS PROTECTIVE.
  • 00:10:10.050 --> 00:10:11.160
  • SHE WAS THE LAST ONE I TOLD.
  • 00:10:11.160 --> 00:10:13.280
  • THE MOST EXCITED ONE, REALLY,
  • 00:10:13.280 --> 00:10:16.020
  • BECAUSE SHE LOVES FICTION SO
  • 00:10:16.020 --> 00:10:16.280
  • MUCH.
  • 00:10:20.100 --> 00:10:23.100
  • I KNEW I WOULD GET HER THERE.
  • 00:10:23.100 --> 00:10:24.010
  • I KNOW SHE WOULD HATE I SPENT
  • 00:10:24.010 --> 00:10:25.020
  • THAT MUCH TIME ON THE SIDE
  • 00:10:25.020 --> 00:10:26.080
  • INSTEAD OF JUST LIKE READING
  • 00:10:26.080 --> 00:10:27.080
  • SOMETHING ELSE, BUT I ALSO KNEW
  • 00:10:27.080 --> 00:10:28.160
  • I WOULD HAVE HER ON THE NOVEL.
  • 00:10:28.160 --> 00:10:29.170
  • - IF YOU JUST TUNED IN WE ARE
  • 00:10:29.170 --> 00:10:30.210
  • SITTING WITH BETH MOORE.
  • 00:10:30.210 --> 00:10:32.110
  • SHE IS NOW A NOVELIST, AND I
  • 00:10:33.230 --> 00:10:36.230
  • THINK RESETTING HERE FOR A
  • 00:10:36.230 --> 00:10:39.000
  • MOMENT, WE ARE OFFERING THIS
  • 00:10:39.000 --> 00:10:40.260
  • BOOK RIGHT HERE RIGHT NOW.
  • 00:10:40.260 --> 00:10:43.000
  • THE NUMBER ON THE SCREEN ALL THE
  • 00:10:43.000 --> 00:10:45.050
  • GRAPHICS AND EVERYTHING IS
  • 00:10:45.050 --> 00:10:47.270
  • ORGANIZED BETWEEN TYNDALE YOUR
  • 00:10:47.270 --> 00:10:50.140
  • PUBLISHER, BETH'S SCHEDULE, OUR
  • 00:10:50.140 --> 00:10:52.290
  • SCHEDULE, THIS STUDIO WE ARE IN
  • 00:10:52.290 --> 00:10:54.210
  • IN DALLAS, TEXAS, AND "THE
  • 00:10:54.210 --> 00:10:56.270
  • UNDOING OF SAINT SILVANUS",
  • 00:10:56.270 --> 00:10:58.160
  • SAINT SILVANUS IS AN OLD, OLD
  • 00:10:58.180 --> 00:11:01.200
  • CHURCH IN NEW ORLEANS.
  • 00:11:02.150 --> 00:11:05.150
  • THE UNDOING OF IT IS THE STORY
  • 00:11:05.150 --> 00:11:07.210
  • AND SUBJECT OF THIS NOVEL.
  • 00:11:07.210 --> 00:11:10.060
  • I THINK INSIDE OF THE FIRST FEW
  • 00:11:10.060 --> 00:11:11.190
  • MINUTES OF THE PROGRAM, THE
  • 00:11:11.190 --> 00:11:14.030
  • HIGHLIGHT IS WHEN BETH TOLD US
  • 00:11:14.030 --> 00:11:15.120
  • SHE WAS THE CHEAPEST DATE IN
  • 00:11:15.120 --> 00:11:17.020
  • TOWN WAY BACK IN THE DAY.
  • 00:11:19.080 --> 00:11:22.080
  • TALK ABOUT BEING ON YOU TUBE,
  • 00:11:22.080 --> 00:11:23.230
  • THAT WILL BE THE SOCIAL MEDIA
  • 00:11:23.230 --> 00:11:24.140
  • THING.
  • 00:11:24.140 --> 00:11:26.140
  • - HE STILL CAME INTO IT - - MY
  • 00:11:26.140 --> 00:11:29.010
  • DAD STILL MANAGED THEATERS YEARS
  • 00:11:29.010 --> 00:11:31.090
  • AND YEARS AFTER KEITH AND I WERE
  • 00:11:31.090 --> 00:11:32.190
  • MARRIED SO, YES, I WAS A CHEAP
  • 00:11:32.190 --> 00:11:33.270
  • DATE FOR HIM AS WELL.
  • 00:11:33.270 --> 00:11:35.130
  • - HE PROBABLY STILL ENJOYS IT.
  • 00:11:35.130 --> 00:11:36.070
  • - HE DOES.
  • 00:11:36.070 --> 00:11:37.170
  • WE LOVE MOVIES SO MUCH.
  • 00:11:37.170 --> 00:11:38.280
  • (LAUGHTER)
  • 00:11:38.280 --> 00:11:40.010
  • - OKAY.
  • 00:11:40.010 --> 00:11:41.280
  • THIS BOOK, SOMEHOW WE ORGANIZED
  • 00:11:41.280 --> 00:11:43.130
  • WITH THE PUBLISHER AND IT IS
  • 00:11:43.130 --> 00:11:45.280
  • YOURS FOR CALLING AND THE
  • 00:11:45.280 --> 00:11:48.160
  • OPERATOR WILL TELL YOU ALL ABOUT
  • 00:11:48.160 --> 00:11:49.120
  • IT.
  • 00:11:49.120 --> 00:11:50.280
  • WE WANT TO MAKE IT AVAILABLE TO
  • 00:11:50.280 --> 00:11:51.220
  • YOU.
  • 00:11:51.220 --> 00:11:52.070
  • OKAY.
  • 00:11:52.070 --> 00:11:55.060
  • THIS BROADCAST, LET'S START
  • 00:11:55.220 --> 00:11:58.220
  • TALKING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS
  • 00:11:58.220 --> 00:12:00.030
  • STORY, OKAY.
  • 00:12:00.030 --> 00:12:02.130
  • I WANT TO START DIGGING IN TO
  • 00:12:02.130 --> 00:12:04.050
  • THIS STORY.
  • 00:12:04.050 --> 00:12:06.080
  • EVERY ONCE IN AWHILE WE WILL
  • 00:12:06.080 --> 00:12:07.240
  • BOUNCE BACK TO YOUR OWN STORY A
  • 00:12:07.240 --> 00:12:09.000
  • LITTLE BIT.
  • 00:12:09.140 --> 00:12:12.140
  • LET'S START WITH, MAYBE SOME OF
  • 00:12:12.140 --> 00:12:14.220
  • THE MAIN CHARACTERS.
  • 00:12:14.220 --> 00:12:16.250
  • THE FORMULATION OF A NOVEL.
  • 00:12:16.250 --> 00:12:18.200
  • THE FORMULATION OF A MULTIPLE
  • 00:12:18.200 --> 00:12:20.230
  • CHAPTER, WE ARE PUSHING A 500
  • 00:12:20.230 --> 00:12:23.110
  • PAGE BOOK HERE.
  • 00:12:24.000 --> 00:12:27.000
  • SO, YOU REALLY HAD TO START
  • 00:12:27.000 --> 00:12:29.000
  • FORMING SOME PEOPLE.
  • 00:12:29.000 --> 00:12:31.060
  • I WANT TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT
  • 00:12:31.060 --> 00:12:33.120
  • WHICH MAIN CHARACTERS YOU
  • 00:12:33.120 --> 00:12:35.090
  • IDENTIFY WITH AND WHY AND HOW.
  • 00:12:35.090 --> 00:12:36.200
  • LET'S START WITH AN OVERVIEW OF
  • 00:12:36.200 --> 00:12:39.040
  • THE STORY OF "THE UNDOING OF
  • 00:12:39.040 --> 00:12:40.220
  • SAINT SILVANUS."
  • 00:12:40.220 --> 00:12:43.080
  • - LET ME TELL YOU, I WILL HAVE
  • 00:12:43.080 --> 00:12:45.090
  • TO WEAVE MY OWN STORY INTO IT,
  • 00:12:45.090 --> 00:12:47.140
  • BECAUSE THIS IS WHY I APPROACHED
  • 00:12:47.140 --> 00:12:48.200
  • IT THE WAY I DID.
  • 00:12:48.200 --> 00:12:51.060
  • I LOVE ALSO SORTS OF NOVELS.
  • 00:12:51.060 --> 00:12:53.100
  • I READ A TON OF FICTION OR A TON
  • 00:12:53.100 --> 00:12:55.190
  • OF NONFICTION.
  • 00:12:55.190 --> 00:12:57.090
  • IF I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO READ
  • 00:12:57.090 --> 00:12:58.210
  • I WILL READ THE BACK OF A
  • 00:12:58.210 --> 00:13:00.090
  • KETCHUP BOTTLE.
  • 00:13:00.090 --> 00:13:01.290
  • I LOVE THAT.
  • 00:13:02.080 --> 00:13:05.080
  • YOU HAVE TO BE TRUE TO YOUR
  • 00:13:05.080 --> 00:13:07.010
  • GENRE AND TRUE AS AN AUTHOR,
  • 00:13:07.010 --> 00:13:09.140
  • EVEN WITH FICTION THERE NEEDS TO
  • 00:13:09.140 --> 00:13:10.240
  • BE SOMETHING ABOUT IT THAT IS
  • 00:13:10.240 --> 00:13:11.230
  • TRUE TO YOU.
  • 00:13:11.230 --> 00:13:13.230
  • I THINK ABOUT JAN KARON
  • 00:13:13.230 --> 00:13:15.150
  • MITFORD'S SERIES, I LOVED ALL
  • 00:13:15.150 --> 00:13:17.070
  • THAT.
  • 00:13:17.070 --> 00:13:18.090
  • I LOVE STORIES LIKE THAT.
  • 00:13:18.090 --> 00:13:20.000
  • I LOVE QUAINT STORIES, BUT THAT
  • 00:13:20.000 --> 00:13:20.250
  • IS NOT ME.
  • 00:13:20.250 --> 00:13:23.020
  • AND WHEN I STARTED TO WRITE,
  • 00:13:24.250 --> 00:13:27.250
  • WHEN IT BECAME TIME TO ACTUALLY
  • 00:13:27.250 --> 00:13:30.140
  • PUT WORDS ON A DOCUMENT, I KNEW
  • 00:13:30.140 --> 00:13:32.270
  • THAT THE ONLY WAY TO BE TRUE TO
  • 00:13:32.270 --> 00:13:35.160
  • ME AND WHAT I WOULD HAVE TO
  • 00:13:35.160 --> 00:13:36.250
  • BRING TO THE MIX IT WOULD BE A
  • 00:13:36.250 --> 00:13:39.020
  • GRITTY STORY BECAUSE I COME FROM
  • 00:13:39.020 --> 00:13:39.270
  • A GRITTY STORY.
  • 00:13:39.270 --> 00:13:42.250
  • SO IT BEGINS THAT WAY.
  • 00:13:42.250 --> 00:13:44.090
  • IT STAYS THAT WAY, AND TO SOME
  • 00:13:44.090 --> 00:13:46.270
  • DEGREE, ALTHOUGH IT IS A
  • 00:13:46.270 --> 00:13:49.040
  • REDEMPTIVE GRITTY STORY BY THE
  • 00:13:49.040 --> 00:13:51.280
  • TIME IT IS FINISHED, THAT IS THE
  • 00:13:51.280 --> 00:13:52.260
  • PATHWAY IN IT.
  • 00:13:53.210 --> 00:13:56.210
  • FOR ME, TO WALK INTO A WORLD
  • 00:13:56.210 --> 00:13:59.040
  • WITH MY READER THAT I KNEW
  • 00:13:59.040 --> 00:14:01.040
  • SOMETHING, ABOUT AND THIS IS A
  • 00:14:01.190 --> 00:14:04.190
  • WORLD WHERE ADDICTION HAS TORN A
  • 00:14:04.190 --> 00:14:06.090
  • FAMILY, AN EXTENDED FAMILY
  • 00:14:06.090 --> 00:14:09.040
  • APART, AND THE DEATH OF A PERSON
  • 00:14:09.040 --> 00:14:11.230
  • IN THAT FAMILY HAS CAUSED PEOPLE
  • 00:14:11.230 --> 00:14:14.050
  • TO COME BACK TOGETHER, THAT NOT
  • 00:14:14.050 --> 00:14:16.260
  • ONLY HAVE NO LOVE LOST BETWEEN
  • 00:14:16.260 --> 00:14:19.090
  • THEM BUT ARE REALLY CONVINCED
  • 00:14:19.090 --> 00:14:20.150
  • THEY HATE ONE ANOTHER, THAT THE
  • 00:14:20.150 --> 00:14:22.000
  • RESENTMENT IS SO DEEP,
  • 00:14:22.000 --> 00:14:23.250
  • BITTERNESS RUNNING SO DEEP IN
  • 00:14:24.000 --> 00:14:27.000
  • THEIR VEINS, AND IT IS THIS
  • 00:14:27.000 --> 00:14:28.160
  • WHOLE COMPLEXITY.
  • 00:14:30.210 --> 00:14:33.210
  • I THINK WHAT INTERESTS ME MOST
  • 00:14:33.210 --> 00:14:36.160
  • IN PEOPLE AND YOU CAN SEE IT IN
  • 00:14:36.160 --> 00:14:38.080
  • THE CHARACTERS, IS JUST THE
  • 00:14:38.080 --> 00:14:40.120
  • COMPLEXITY OF HUMAN
  • 00:14:40.120 --> 00:14:41.150
  • RELATIONSHIPS.
  • 00:14:41.150 --> 00:14:43.010
  • I'M INTERESTED IN THAT.
  • 00:14:43.010 --> 00:14:44.230
  • I SAID SO MANY TIMES, I LIKE
  • 00:14:44.290 --> 00:14:47.290
  • PEOPLE I DON'T LIKE IF THEY
  • 00:14:47.290 --> 00:14:48.230
  • INTEREST ME.
  • 00:14:48.230 --> 00:14:49.280
  • DOES THAT MAKE SENSE TO YOU?
  • 00:14:49.280 --> 00:14:51.250
  • I'M GOING TO THINK, EVEN IF YOU
  • 00:14:51.250 --> 00:14:54.000
  • REALLY ARE ONE OF THE ODDEST
  • 00:14:54.000 --> 00:14:55.010
  • PEOPLE I'VE BEEN AROUND IN MY
  • 00:14:55.010 --> 00:14:56.160
  • ENTIRE LIFE, IF THERE IS
  • 00:14:56.270 --> 00:14:59.270
  • SOMETHING ABOUT THEM I THINK,
  • 00:15:00.050 --> 00:15:03.050
  • YOU ARE COMPLICATED, I'M GOING
  • 00:15:08.080 --> 00:15:11.080
  • TO SIT THERE AND BE RIVETED BY
  • 00:15:11.080 --> 00:15:12.000
  • THEM.
  • 00:15:12.000 --> 00:15:12.130
  • MATT, THAT IS WHAT HAPPENS IN
  • 00:15:12.130 --> 00:15:13.070
  • THE STORYLINE.
  • 00:15:13.070 --> 00:15:14.060
  • IT'S THIS MIX OF CHARACTERS.
  • 00:15:14.060 --> 00:15:15.070
  • IT'S ABOUT SIX MAIN CHARACTERS
  • 00:15:15.070 --> 00:15:16.100
  • IN THE STORY.
  • 00:15:16.100 --> 00:15:18.280
  • AND THIS VERY COMPLEX
  • 00:15:19.050 --> 00:15:22.050
  • RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THEM THAT
  • 00:15:22.050 --> 00:15:24.050
  • HAS A LOT OF REASON FOR
  • 00:15:24.140 --> 00:15:27.140
  • BITTERNESS AND ANGER AND A LOT
  • 00:15:27.140 --> 00:15:29.270
  • OF REASONS TO JUST LET IT BE AS
  • 00:15:30.180 --> 00:15:33.180
  • IT WAS AND GO FORWARD AND NEVER
  • 00:15:33.180 --> 00:15:35.000
  • LET IT FIX, AND HOW GOD BEGINS
  • 00:15:35.000 --> 00:15:35.240
  • TO PURSUE THEM.
  • 00:15:35.240 --> 00:15:37.260
  • THAT KIND OF THING INTERESTS ME.
  • 00:15:37.260 --> 00:15:40.020
  • IN REFERENCE TO THE CHARACTERS,
  • 00:15:41.180 --> 00:15:44.180
  • I MEANT TO DO SOME OF THE
  • 00:15:44.180 --> 00:15:45.110
  • CHARACTERS AFTER SOME OF THE
  • 00:15:45.110 --> 00:15:46.130
  • PEOPLE I KNEW.
  • 00:15:46.130 --> 00:15:48.170
  • BUT THEY WENT ON THEIR OWN WAY.
  • 00:15:48.170 --> 00:15:50.220
  • I DON'T KNOW HOW TO EXPLAIN
  • 00:15:50.220 --> 00:15:52.260
  • THAT, BUT AS I DEVELOPED THEM, I
  • 00:15:52.260 --> 00:15:54.190
  • THOUGHT, REALLY I WAS PICTURING
  • 00:15:54.190 --> 00:15:56.040
  • HER BUT THAT IS NOT WHAT
  • 00:15:56.040 --> 00:15:57.010
  • HAPPENED.
  • 00:15:57.010 --> 00:15:58.150
  • I THOUGHT ONE WOULD BE A LITTLE
  • 00:15:58.150 --> 00:16:00.190
  • MIXTURE BETWEEN MY REALLY GOOD
  • 00:16:00.190 --> 00:16:03.120
  • FRIEND AND ME, AND SHE JUST DID
  • 00:16:03.120 --> 00:16:04.140
  • NOT TURN OUT THAT WAY.
  • 00:16:04.140 --> 00:16:05.270
  • SHE WENT HER OWN WAY.
  • 00:16:06.010 --> 00:16:09.010
  • IT WAS INTRIGUING TO ME IN
  • 00:16:09.010 --> 00:16:10.020
  • PROCESS.
  • 00:16:10.020 --> 00:16:13.000
  • BECAUSE IT DID NOT COME ABOUT, I
  • 00:16:13.030 --> 00:16:16.030
  • FIGURED MY IMAGINATION WOULD
  • 00:16:16.030 --> 00:16:17.140
  • ONLY TAKE ME AS FAR AS PEOPLE
  • 00:16:17.140 --> 00:16:18.120
  • THAT I KNEW.
  • 00:16:18.120 --> 00:16:19.170
  • BUT EACH ONE OF THOSE CHARACTERS
  • 00:16:19.170 --> 00:16:22.140
  • BECAME VERY, VERY SPECIFIC TO ME
  • 00:16:22.140 --> 00:16:24.150
  • IN THEIR OWN DEVELOPMENT.
  • 00:16:24.150 --> 00:16:25.130
  • - WOW!
  • 00:16:25.130 --> 00:16:26.250
  • - I MISSED THEM WHEN IT WAS
  • 00:16:26.250 --> 00:16:27.170
  • DONE.
  • 00:16:27.170 --> 00:16:28.280
  • YOU SPEND 3 AND A HALF YEARS
  • 00:16:28.280 --> 00:16:30.290
  • WITH PEOPLE IN YOUR MIND AND
  • 00:16:30.290 --> 00:16:31.270
  • YOUR IMAGINATION.
  • 00:16:31.270 --> 00:16:33.130
  • - WE ARE TALKING ABOUT "THE
  • 00:16:33.130 --> 00:16:36.020
  • UNDOING OF SAINT SILVANUS" WHICH
  • 00:16:36.020 --> 00:16:38.290
  • IS AN OLD CHURCH SET ABOUT ONE
  • 00:16:38.290 --> 00:16:39.230
  • HUNDRED YEARS AGO.
  • 00:16:39.230 --> 00:16:41.040
  • SAINT SILVANUS IS A CHURCH.
  • 00:16:41.040 --> 00:16:43.060
  • IT IS THE CHARACTER OF A CHURCH
  • 00:16:43.060 --> 00:16:45.110
  • AND THE UNDOING OF THAT CHURCH.
  • 00:16:45.110 --> 00:16:47.020
  • YOU SAID "GRITTY."
  • 00:16:47.020 --> 00:16:49.160
  • YOU USED THE WORD GRITTY, SO
  • 00:16:49.160 --> 00:16:51.110
  • THIS IS A GRITTY STORY.
  • 00:16:51.110 --> 00:16:54.020
  • WHAT PART OF YOUR OWN UPBRINGING
  • 00:16:54.020 --> 00:16:55.180
  • IS GRITTY? WHY IS THAT A
  • 00:16:55.180 --> 00:16:56.210
  • CONNECTION POINT?
  • 00:16:56.210 --> 00:16:59.110
  • - ONE THING I LEFT OUT OF IT,
  • 00:16:59.110 --> 00:17:02.020
  • THERE IS NO BACKGROUND OF SEXUAL
  • 00:17:02.020 --> 00:17:04.060
  • ABUSE IN IT.
  • 00:17:04.260 --> 00:17:07.260
  • I JUST DID NOT GO THERE
  • 00:17:07.260 --> 00:17:09.150
  • AT ALL.
  • 00:17:10.100 --> 00:17:13.100
  • I CERTAINLY HAVE IN MOST OF MY
  • 00:17:13.100 --> 00:17:15.150
  • NONFICTION WORK, BECAUSE IT IS
  • 00:17:15.150 --> 00:17:17.000
  • PART OF MY OWN STORY.
  • 00:17:17.000 --> 00:17:18.060
  • I DID NOT GO THERE IN THE NOVEL.
  • 00:17:18.060 --> 00:17:20.140
  • I DID NOT FEEL LED TO.
  • 00:17:20.140 --> 00:17:21.240
  • IT DID NOT FEEL LIKE PART OF THE
  • 00:17:21.240 --> 00:17:23.120
  • STORY.
  • 00:17:23.120 --> 00:17:25.090
  • BUT ADDICTION IS HUGE IN MY
  • 00:17:25.090 --> 00:17:27.170
  • FAMILY OF ORIGIN.
  • 00:17:29.180 --> 00:17:32.180
  • AND WAS IN MY UPBRINGING AND A
  • 00:17:32.180 --> 00:17:34.070
  • TREMENDOUS, MATT AND LAURIE,
  • 00:17:34.070 --> 00:17:35.180
  • TREMENDOUS INSTABILITY.
  • 00:17:35.180 --> 00:17:37.140
  • JUST TREMENDOUS.
  • 00:17:37.200 --> 00:17:40.200
  • WHERE IT FEELS THERE IS NOTHING
  • 00:17:40.200 --> 00:17:42.250
  • BACK BEHIND THAT FRONT DOOR TO
  • 00:17:42.250 --> 00:17:43.280
  • STAND ON THAT WILL HOLD YOU.
  • 00:17:43.280 --> 00:17:46.090
  • AND WHAT'S HAPPENED IN THIS
  • 00:17:46.090 --> 00:17:48.100
  • BOOK, A TRAGEDY HAPPENS IN THIS
  • 00:17:48.100 --> 00:17:50.290
  • CHURCH AND ONE HUNDRED YEARS
  • 00:17:50.290 --> 00:17:52.240
  • LATER, AND SO IT IS SET IN THE
  • 00:17:52.240 --> 00:17:54.100
  • PRESENT, IT LOOKS BACK ON THAT
  • 00:17:54.100 --> 00:17:55.210
  • TRAGEDY ONE HUNDRED YEARS LATER.
  • 00:17:55.210 --> 00:17:57.160
  • THIS CHURCH HAS BEEN BOUGHT.
  • 00:17:57.200 --> 00:18:00.220
  • IT'S LONG SINCE BEEN ABANDONED
  • 00:18:00.220 --> 00:18:01.190
  • AS A CHURCH.
  • 00:18:01.190 --> 00:18:04.000
  • IT IS BOUGHT AND REFURBISHED
  • 00:18:04.000 --> 00:18:05.260
  • INTO AN APARTMENT HOUSE.
  • 00:18:05.260 --> 00:18:08.150
  • AND IT'S THE STORY OF THESE
  • 00:18:08.150 --> 00:18:11.050
  • PEOPLE DOWN THE HALLS THAT HAVE
  • 00:18:11.050 --> 00:18:12.280
  • NO IDEA WHAT ALL HAPPENED THERE
  • 00:18:12.280 --> 00:18:14.070
  • ONE HUNDRED YEARS EARLIER, AND A
  • 00:18:14.070 --> 00:18:15.210
  • FEW OF THE WAYS THEY FIND OUT.
  • 00:18:15.210 --> 00:18:17.060
  • -- THEY DON'T EVER KNOW THE
  • 00:18:17.060 --> 00:18:18.120
  • WHOLE STORY, BUT A FEW OF THE
  • 00:18:18.120 --> 00:18:20.130
  • WAYS RELICS FROM THE OLD CHURCH
  • 00:18:20.130 --> 00:18:22.270
  • MAKE ITS WAY BACK INTO THAT
  • 00:18:22.270 --> 00:18:23.290
  • SETTING.
  • 00:18:25.180 --> 00:18:28.180
  • SO, THAT IS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT
  • 00:18:28.180 --> 00:18:30.230
  • IT AND IT'S A STORY OF
  • 00:18:31.210 --> 00:18:34.210
  • BROKENNESS, OF THE COMPLEXITY OF
  • 00:18:34.210 --> 00:18:37.020
  • A FAMILY DEALING WITH
  • 00:18:37.020 --> 00:18:38.200
  • HEART-WRENCHING ADDICTION.
  • 00:18:38.200 --> 00:18:40.220
  • WHEN THINGS DON'T WORK OUT.
  • 00:18:40.220 --> 00:18:42.270
  • SOMETIMES, THERE ARE SO MANY
  • 00:18:42.270 --> 00:18:45.000
  • VIEWERS THAT GET WHAT I'M
  • 00:18:45.000 --> 00:18:47.240
  • TALKING ABOUT, WHEN THINGS DID
  • 00:18:47.240 --> 00:18:48.250
  • NOT WORK OUT.
  • 00:18:49.050 --> 00:18:52.050
  • AND SOMEONE PASSED AWAY BEFORE
  • 00:18:52.050 --> 00:18:53.240
  • IT WORKED OUT AND THE HEARTBREAK
  • 00:18:53.240 --> 00:18:54.180
  • OF THAT.
  • 00:18:54.180 --> 00:18:56.180
  • YOU'VE HAD THAT HAPPEN, I'VE HAD
  • 00:18:56.180 --> 00:18:57.100
  • THAT HAPPEN.
  • 00:18:57.100 --> 00:19:00.060
  • WHEN YOU THINK IT NEVER FIXED.
  • 00:19:00.060 --> 00:19:00.280
  • IT NEVER FIXED.
  • 00:19:00.280 --> 00:19:03.190
  • THE THING ABOUT JESUS, HE IS
  • 00:19:05.190 --> 00:19:08.190
  • STILL WORKING, AFTER OUR LIVES
  • 00:19:08.190 --> 00:19:09.240
  • HERE OR A LOVED ONES LIFE HERE
  • 00:19:09.240 --> 00:19:11.040
  • MAY BE OVER, HE IS NOT DONE, HE
  • 00:19:11.040 --> 00:19:12.030
  • IS STILL WORKING.
  • 00:19:12.120 --> 00:19:15.120
  • HE PERFECTS THAT WHICH CONCERNS
  • 00:19:15.120 --> 00:19:16.230
  • US.
  • 00:19:17.160 --> 00:19:20.160
  • AND EVEN THE LIFE THAT IS LOST
  • 00:19:20.160 --> 00:19:23.150
  • GETS FOUND, ODDLY, IN THE STORY.
  • 00:19:23.170 --> 00:19:26.170
  • AND THAT HIS IDENTITY, HE DOES
  • 00:19:26.170 --> 00:19:29.160
  • BECOME SOMEONE OF IMPORTANCE IN
  • 00:19:29.160 --> 00:19:30.150
  • THE STORY.
  • 00:19:31.060 --> 00:19:34.060
  • HE DOES HAVE HIS OWN STORY.
  • 00:19:34.060 --> 00:19:35.080
  • IT BEGINS, I DON'T THINK THIS
  • 00:19:35.080 --> 00:19:37.140
  • GIVES AWAY TOO MUCH OF THE STORY
  • 00:19:37.140 --> 00:19:39.170
  • WITH THE BODY OF A HOMELESS MAN
  • 00:19:39.170 --> 00:19:41.140
  • FOUND ON THE SIDEWALK, AND A
  • 00:19:41.140 --> 00:19:43.170
  • VERY BIG PART OF THE STORY IS
  • 00:19:43.170 --> 00:19:46.000
  • FINDING OUT THAT HE WAS SOMEONE.
  • 00:19:46.000 --> 00:19:48.140
  • WHAT HE WAS LIKE.
  • 00:19:48.140 --> 00:19:49.260
  • WHAT HIS OWN STORY WAS.
  • 00:19:49.260 --> 00:19:52.140
  • THAT WAS IMPORTANT TO ME.
  • 00:19:52.210 --> 00:19:55.210
  • THAT IS VERY-- THAT IS VERY DEAR
  • 00:19:55.210 --> 00:19:57.220
  • TO ME IN WAYS I'M NOT COMPLETELY
  • 00:19:57.220 --> 00:19:59.050
  • FREE TO SHARE.
  • 00:19:59.050 --> 00:20:01.080
  • - OKAY.
  • 00:20:03.100 --> 00:20:06.100
  • IN ONE SENSE, NOW THAT YOU ARE
  • 00:20:06.100 --> 00:20:08.160
  • KIND OF UNPACKING SOME OF WHERE
  • 00:20:08.290 --> 00:20:11.290
  • YOU ARE COMING FROM WHAT
  • 00:20:11.290 --> 00:20:13.170
  • HAPPENS, TAKE ONE OF YOUR
  • 00:20:14.030 --> 00:20:17.030
  • CHARACTERS, ANYONE OF THEM IN
  • 00:20:17.030 --> 00:20:18.290
  • THIS BOOK, AND KIND OF GO DOWN
  • 00:20:18.290 --> 00:20:21.110
  • ONE OF THE PATHWAYS OF WHERE
  • 00:20:21.110 --> 00:20:23.000
  • THEY START AND A CHARACTER ARC
  • 00:20:23.000 --> 00:20:24.210
  • AND WHERE THEY FINISH UP.
  • 00:20:24.210 --> 00:20:26.050
  • JUST ONE OF THE CHARACTERS THAT
  • 00:20:26.050 --> 00:20:28.160
  • YOU HAD TO DEVELOP FROM SCRATCH
  • 00:20:28.160 --> 00:20:30.070
  • AND TALK DEEPER ABOUT ONE OF THE
  • 00:20:30.070 --> 00:20:31.080
  • CHARACTERS.
  • 00:20:31.170 --> 00:20:34.170
  • BECAUSE I THINK WHAT YOU ARE
  • 00:20:34.170 --> 00:20:36.180
  • DOING IS, YOU ARE KIND OF DOING,
  • 00:20:36.180 --> 00:20:38.090
  • IN ESSENCE, A BIBLE STUDY IN A
  • 00:20:38.090 --> 00:20:40.070
  • DIFFERENT GENRE.
  • 00:20:40.070 --> 00:20:41.290
  • - ABSOLUTELY.
  • 00:20:42.020 --> 00:20:45.020
  • - SO, I THINK THERE IS GOING TO
  • 00:20:45.020 --> 00:20:46.230
  • BE SOME PATHWAYS DOWN SOME OF
  • 00:20:46.230 --> 00:20:48.110
  • THESE CHARACTERS LIVES THAT WILL
  • 00:20:48.110 --> 00:20:49.030
  • CONNECT.
  • 00:20:49.030 --> 00:20:50.120
  • THIS BOOK IS AVAILABLE RIGHT
  • 00:20:50.120 --> 00:20:51.080
  • NOW.
  • 00:20:51.080 --> 00:20:53.140
  • CALL THE NUMBER ON THE SCREEN.
  • 00:20:53.140 --> 00:20:54.060
  • WE ORGANIZED TO GET THAT ALL
  • 00:20:54.060 --> 00:20:54.270
  • DONE.
  • 00:20:54.270 --> 00:20:55.150
  • BETH MOORE YOUR FIRST NOVEL,
  • 00:20:55.150 --> 00:20:56.100
  • WHAT IS ONE OF THE MAIN
  • 00:20:56.100 --> 00:20:58.050
  • CHARACTERS.
  • 00:20:58.050 --> 00:20:58.280
  • JUST WALK US THROUGH DEEPER.
  • 00:20:58.280 --> 00:21:00.250
  • - THERE IS A WOMAN IN HER
  • 00:21:00.250 --> 00:21:01.250
  • MID 20'S, THE GRANDDAUGHTER IN
  • 00:21:01.250 --> 00:21:02.250
  • THE STORY.
  • 00:21:02.250 --> 00:21:04.270
  • SHE HAS BEEN RAISED NOT ONLY
  • 00:21:06.080 --> 00:21:09.080
  • WITHOUT GOD, BUT WITH AN
  • 00:21:09.080 --> 00:21:11.030
  • ATTITUDE THAT HE WOULD BE
  • 00:21:11.030 --> 00:21:12.070
  • NOTHING BUT A CRUTCH.
  • 00:21:12.070 --> 00:21:13.090
  • NO PLACE FOR HIM.
  • 00:21:13.090 --> 00:21:14.220
  • AND SHE HAS BEEN RAISED BY A
  • 00:21:17.000 --> 00:21:20.000
  • SINGLE MOM WHO HAS TAUGHT HER A
  • 00:21:20.000 --> 00:21:21.210
  • LOT OF FREEDOM, A LOT OF
  • 00:21:21.210 --> 00:21:24.160
  • LIBERTY, KIND OF BECAME A GOOD
  • 00:21:24.160 --> 00:21:26.080
  • FRIEND TO HER INSTEAD OF AN
  • 00:21:26.080 --> 00:21:27.180
  • ACTUAL PARENT.
  • 00:21:28.090 --> 00:21:31.090
  • AND IT IS HOW SOME OF THAT IS A
  • 00:21:31.090 --> 00:21:32.240
  • BACKLASH ON HER, AND A MOTHER
  • 00:21:33.090 --> 00:21:36.090
  • THAT CAN ONLY IDENTIFY HERSELF
  • 00:21:36.090 --> 00:21:38.030
  • AND ONLY FINDS HER STABILITY IF
  • 00:21:38.030 --> 00:21:40.010
  • THERE IS A MAN IN HER LIFE.
  • 00:21:40.010 --> 00:21:42.050
  • SO MANY MEN HAVE COME AND GONE
  • 00:21:42.050 --> 00:21:44.140
  • IN THIS YOUNG WOMAN'S MOTHER'S
  • 00:21:44.140 --> 00:21:45.110
  • LIFE.
  • 00:21:45.110 --> 00:21:47.080
  • SO SHE HAS BEEN TAUGHT THIS
  • 00:21:47.080 --> 00:21:48.090
  • WHOLE WAY OF DOING LIFE.
  • 00:21:48.090 --> 00:21:49.100
  • SHE IS FREE.
  • 00:21:49.100 --> 00:21:51.160
  • SHE CAN DO ANYTHING.
  • 00:21:51.160 --> 00:21:53.150
  • SHE HAS NO PERIMETERS HER MOTHER
  • 00:21:53.150 --> 00:21:54.070
  • IS HER GOOD FRIEND.
  • 00:21:54.070 --> 00:21:55.220
  • NO PLACE FOR GOD WHATSOEVER.
  • 00:21:55.220 --> 00:21:57.090
  • SHE HAS GRANDMOTHER BACK --SHE
  • 00:21:57.090 --> 00:21:58.270
  • LIVES IN CALIFORNIA.
  • 00:21:58.270 --> 00:22:00.130
  • SHE HAS A GRANDMOTHER BACK IN
  • 00:22:00.130 --> 00:22:02.230
  • NEW ORLEANS WHOSE LIFE HAS NOT
  • 00:22:02.230 --> 00:22:05.040
  • ALL TOGETHER DIFFERENT IN THAT
  • 00:22:05.040 --> 00:22:06.030
  • IS ALSO GODLESS.
  • 00:22:06.030 --> 00:22:08.270
  • THIS ONE YOUNG WOMAN, COMING
  • 00:22:08.270 --> 00:22:10.020
  • TOGETHER OVER THIS DEATH IN THE
  • 00:22:10.020 --> 00:22:11.150
  • FAMILY WITH THIS GRANDMOTHER,
  • 00:22:11.150 --> 00:22:13.000
  • NEITHER ONE OF THEM HAVING ANY
  • 00:22:13.000 --> 00:22:14.250
  • KIND OF FAITH, BOTH OF THEM
  • 00:22:15.220 --> 00:22:18.220
  • HAVING COMPLETE INSTABILITY IN
  • 00:22:18.220 --> 00:22:19.260
  • THEIR LIVES AND FEELING LIKE
  • 00:22:19.260 --> 00:22:21.270
  • THINGS WERE TAKEN OUT OF THEIR
  • 00:22:23.210 --> 00:22:26.210
  • HANDS, DIFFERENT KINDS OF
  • 00:22:26.210 --> 00:22:27.100
  • DEFINITIONS OF WHAT MAKES LIFE
  • 00:22:27.100 --> 00:22:28.160
  • STABLE AND WATCHING THE FIRE
  • 00:22:28.160 --> 00:22:29.200
  • WORKS BOTH VERY FIERY
  • 00:22:29.200 --> 00:22:30.190
  • PERSONALITIES.
  • 00:22:30.190 --> 00:22:31.100
  • THAT PROBABLY DOES VERY MUCH
  • 00:22:31.100 --> 00:22:32.090
  • COME FROM MY FAMILY, BECAUSE LET
  • 00:22:32.090 --> 00:22:33.170
  • ME TELL YOU I HAVE SAID ALL MY
  • 00:22:33.170 --> 00:22:34.250
  • FAMILY MEMBERS ARE AS
  • 00:22:34.250 --> 00:22:36.130
  • OPINIONATED AS I AM.
  • 00:22:36.130 --> 00:22:39.040
  • ALL OF US HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY.
  • 00:22:39.040 --> 00:22:41.090
  • SOMETHING WE WANT TO BRING TO
  • 00:22:41.090 --> 00:22:42.000
  • THE TABLE.
  • 00:22:42.000 --> 00:22:44.050
  • IT IS SORT OF A FREE-FOR-ALL.
  • 00:22:44.050 --> 00:22:45.220
  • I WANTED THAT ATMOSPHERE IN
  • 00:22:45.220 --> 00:22:46.130
  • HERE.
  • 00:22:47.010 --> 00:22:50.010
  • I MEANT FOR IT TO BE A CLIMATE
  • 00:22:50.010 --> 00:22:51.270
  • OF CONFLICT AND WHERE THEY WOULD
  • 00:22:51.270 --> 00:22:54.030
  • GET SO CLOSE YOU WOULD THINK IT
  • 00:22:54.030 --> 00:22:56.200
  • IS JUST ABOUT TO TAKE A TURN,
  • 00:22:56.200 --> 00:22:57.240
  • JUST ABOUT TO TAKE A TURN AND
  • 00:22:57.240 --> 00:23:00.140
  • THEN SOMETHING ELSE WOULD KEEP
  • 00:23:00.140 --> 00:23:01.120
  • THEM FROM COMING TOGETHER.
  • 00:23:01.120 --> 00:23:03.170
  • IT IS THAT PROCESS OF HOW GOD
  • 00:23:03.170 --> 00:23:04.080
  • BEGINS TO WORK IN IT.
  • 00:23:04.080 --> 00:23:05.230
  • - WAS THIS THERAPY FOR YOU?
  • 00:23:05.230 --> 00:23:06.150
  • - YES.
  • 00:23:06.150 --> 00:23:07.040
  • - IT WAS.
  • 00:23:07.040 --> 00:23:08.100
  • - YES.
  • 00:23:08.100 --> 00:23:10.120
  • I WILL TELL YOU YES, YES TO
  • 00:23:10.120 --> 00:23:11.230
  • ALMOST EVERY QUESTION YOU COULD
  • 00:23:11.230 --> 00:23:13.010
  • ASK.
  • 00:23:13.010 --> 00:23:14.010
  • YES. YES.
  • 00:23:14.010 --> 00:23:16.150
  • ONE THING IT WAS TO ME.
  • 00:23:16.150 --> 00:23:17.270
  • I KNOW SOMEBODY IS GOING TO BE
  • 00:23:17.270 --> 00:23:18.240
  • ABLE TO RELATE TO THIS.
  • 00:23:18.240 --> 00:23:19.290
  • I LOVE STORIES.
  • 00:23:19.290 --> 00:23:21.030
  • I LOVE MOVIES.
  • 00:23:21.030 --> 00:23:22.120
  • I LOVE TV SERIES.
  • 00:23:22.120 --> 00:23:24.040
  • I LOVE FICTION, BUT I DON'T WANT
  • 00:23:24.180 --> 00:23:27.180
  • TO HAVE TO SELL OFF MY INTEGRITY
  • 00:23:27.180 --> 00:23:29.250
  • IN ORDER TO READ A GOOD
  • 00:23:29.250 --> 00:23:32.070
  • COMPELLING STORY.
  • 00:23:32.070 --> 00:23:34.240
  • LAURIE, I SAID SO MANY TIMES, I
  • 00:23:36.090 --> 00:23:39.090
  • DON'T WANT TO WATCH A KID SHOW.
  • 00:23:39.090 --> 00:23:41.240
  • I ALREADY RAISED MY KIDS.
  • 00:23:41.240 --> 00:23:43.150
  • I WANT A GOOD DRAMA, BUT I DON'T
  • 00:23:43.150 --> 00:23:44.260
  • WANT NASTY.
  • 00:23:44.290 --> 00:23:47.290
  • GIVE ME MYSTERY, GIVE ME
  • 00:23:47.290 --> 00:23:49.100
  • SUSPENSE, I CAN TAKE A LITTLE
  • 00:23:51.000 --> 00:23:54.000
  • BIT OF IF IT HAS A LITTLE BIT OF
  • 00:23:54.000 --> 00:23:55.280
  • A VIOLENT EDGE TO IT WHERE IT
  • 00:23:55.280 --> 00:23:57.140
  • NECESSARY TO TELL THE STORY.
  • 00:23:57.140 --> 00:23:59.070
  • IS THERE LOSS IN IT? GRIEF,
  • 00:23:59.070 --> 00:24:01.020
  • ANGER? I'M AN ADULT.
  • 00:24:01.020 --> 00:24:03.190
  • BRING ME INTO THE STORY, BUT
  • 00:24:03.190 --> 00:24:06.090
  • DON'T COMPROMISE SO BY THE TIME
  • 00:24:06.190 --> 00:24:09.190
  • I'M DONE WITH IT I FEEL LIKE I
  • 00:24:09.190 --> 00:24:10.270
  • NEED TO GO TAKE A SHOWER.
  • 00:24:10.270 --> 00:24:12.210
  • I'M A WOMAN OF GOD.
  • 00:24:13.280 --> 00:24:16.280
  • I WANT TO WATCH AND I WANT TO
  • 00:24:16.290 --> 00:24:19.290
  • GET LOST IN SOMETHING THAT IS
  • 00:24:19.290 --> 00:24:22.020
  • DECENT BUT IT IS STILL ADULT.
  • 00:24:22.020 --> 00:24:23.190
  • DOES THAT MAKE SENSE TO YOU ALL?
  • 00:24:23.190 --> 00:24:25.110
  • I DON'T WANT TO WATCH DISNEY.
  • 00:24:25.110 --> 00:24:28.070
  • - FOR US TO USE OUR IMAGINATION
  • 00:24:28.070 --> 00:24:29.170
  • THAT BRINGS YOU INTO A STORY,
  • 00:24:29.170 --> 00:24:30.180
  • BEING ABLE TO USE IT AND NOT
  • 00:24:30.180 --> 00:24:31.220
  • JUST SEE EVERYTHING.
  • 00:24:31.220 --> 00:24:32.200
  • - IT INTERESTS ME.
  • 00:24:32.200 --> 00:24:33.170
  • - IT IS MORE ROMANTIC.
  • 00:24:33.170 --> 00:24:35.230
  • - I WANT ROMANCE.
  • 00:24:35.230 --> 00:24:36.160
  • - I'LL TAKE A LITTLE ROMANCE.
  • 00:24:36.160 --> 00:24:39.160
  • - I WANT THEM TO KEEP THEIR
  • 00:24:39.160 --> 00:24:40.210
  • CLOTHES ON.
  • 00:24:40.210 --> 00:24:41.240
  • I JUST DON'T -- PLEASE, LET ME
  • 00:24:41.240 --> 00:24:44.010
  • USE MY IMAGINATION AND DON'T
  • 00:24:44.220 --> 00:24:47.220
  • MAKE IT SO GRAPHIC THAT I'M
  • 00:24:47.220 --> 00:24:49.090
  • GOING TO PITCH IT DOWN.
  • 00:24:49.090 --> 00:24:50.160
  • BECAUSE I'VE TURNED OFF MORE
  • 00:24:50.160 --> 00:24:51.150
  • MOVIES.
  • 00:24:51.150 --> 00:24:52.270
  • I'VE THROWN MORE BOOKS.
  • 00:24:52.270 --> 00:24:54.270
  • I CANNOT TELL YOU HOW MANY
  • 00:24:54.270 --> 00:24:56.180
  • TIMES, I HAVE BEEN SO MAD.
  • 00:24:56.180 --> 00:24:58.040
  • KEITH AND I WOULD GET INVOLVED
  • 00:24:58.040 --> 00:24:59.230
  • IN A GREAT TV SERIES, I KNOW YOU
  • 00:24:59.230 --> 00:25:01.170
  • CAN RELATE AND GO, FORGET IT.
  • 00:25:01.170 --> 00:25:04.130
  • NOW WE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO WATCH
  • 00:25:04.130 --> 00:25:05.120
  • THIS.
  • 00:25:06.150 --> 00:25:09.150
  • THAT IS PART OF IT-- I HOPE IT
  • 00:25:09.150 --> 00:25:10.110
  • OFFERS THAT TO THE READER.
  • 00:25:10.110 --> 00:25:12.160
  • BUT IT OFFERED IT TO ME.
  • 00:25:12.160 --> 00:25:15.140
  • WHERE I JUST GOT TO GO WITH IT
  • 00:25:15.160 --> 00:25:18.160
  • AND YET NOTHING HAPPENED IN SUCH
  • 00:25:18.160 --> 00:25:20.240
  • A WAY, HARD THINGS HAPPENED.
  • 00:25:20.240 --> 00:25:22.010
  • AND THERE ARE TIMES WHERE YOU
  • 00:25:22.010 --> 00:25:23.020
  • KNOW THIS OR THAT HAPPENED, BUT
  • 00:25:23.020 --> 00:25:25.080
  • I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE YOU THERE
  • 00:25:25.080 --> 00:25:26.100
  • IN GRAPHICS.
  • 00:25:26.100 --> 00:25:28.180
  • YOU WILL JUST KNOW IT AND WE
  • 00:25:28.180 --> 00:25:30.040
  • WILL DEAL WITH REAL LIFE.
  • 00:25:30.040 --> 00:25:31.290
  • IT IS VERY MUCH REAL LIFE.
  • 00:25:31.290 --> 00:25:34.210
  • AND FOR SOME PEOPLE IT MIGHT BE
  • 00:25:34.210 --> 00:25:35.240
  • EVEN GRITTIER THAN THEIR LIFE
  • 00:25:35.240 --> 00:25:36.250
  • WAS BUT IT'S NOT GRITTIER THAN
  • 00:25:36.250 --> 00:25:37.220
  • MINE.
  • 00:25:37.220 --> 00:25:40.100
  • - WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TODAY A
  • 00:25:40.100 --> 00:25:43.080
  • BRAND NEW NOVEL.
  • 00:25:43.080 --> 00:25:45.000
  • IT IS CALLED "THE UNDOING OF
  • 00:25:45.000 --> 00:25:47.050
  • SAINT SILVANUS".
  • 00:25:47.050 --> 00:25:48.010
  • SAINT SILVANUS IS A CHARACTER IN
  • 00:25:48.010 --> 00:25:50.220
  • THIS NOVEL.
  • 00:25:50.220 --> 00:25:51.140
  • AND IT'S A CHURCH.
  • 00:25:51.140 --> 00:25:53.110
  • SO THE UNDOING OF THIS CHURCH,
  • 00:25:53.110 --> 00:25:55.260
  • ONE HUNDRED YEARS AGO NOW SET IN
  • 00:25:55.260 --> 00:25:58.020
  • MODERN TIMES.
  • 00:25:58.020 --> 00:25:59.060
  • BETH MOORE'S FIRST NOVEL, "NEW
  • 00:25:59.060 --> 00:26:00.040
  • YORK TIMES" BEST-SELLING AUTHOR,
  • 00:26:00.040 --> 00:26:02.070
  • THAT BOOK, THIS BOOK IS
  • 00:26:02.070 --> 00:26:04.070
  • AVAILABLE BY DIALING THE NUMBER
  • 00:26:04.070 --> 00:26:04.290
  • ON THE SCREEN.
  • 00:26:05.090 --> 00:26:08.090
  • WE ORGANIZED THAT AND WE WANT
  • 00:26:08.090 --> 00:26:10.030
  • YOU TO HAVE IT.
  • 00:26:10.030 --> 00:26:11.060
  • OKAY.
  • 00:26:11.060 --> 00:26:13.070
  • NOW, IN CASE SOMEBODY JUST TUNED
  • 00:26:13.070 --> 00:26:15.150
  • IN, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THIS
  • 00:26:15.150 --> 00:26:17.060
  • NOVEL.
  • 00:26:17.060 --> 00:26:20.020
  • WE ARE TALKING ABOUT BETH MOORE.
  • 00:26:20.020 --> 00:26:21.200
  • WE ARE TALKING TO BETH MOORE.
  • 00:26:21.200 --> 00:26:24.020
  • YOU STARTED THE BROADCAST, YOU
  • 00:26:24.020 --> 00:26:25.000
  • ARE THE DAUGHTER OF THE MOVIE
  • 00:26:25.000 --> 00:26:26.020
  • HOUSE OWNER.
  • 00:26:26.020 --> 00:26:28.270
  • - YES, INDEED.
  • 00:26:28.270 --> 00:26:30.270
  • - YOU GO BACK.
  • 00:26:30.270 --> 00:26:32.110
  • WHAT YEARS, YOU ARE TALKING 60'S
  • 00:26:32.110 --> 00:26:33.220
  • AND 70'S.
  • 00:26:33.220 --> 00:26:34.240
  • - YES.
  • 00:26:34.240 --> 00:26:37.120
  • - WHEN I WENT TO MY FIRST MOVIE
  • 00:26:37.120 --> 00:26:38.270
  • THAT I-- THAT I REMEMBER, IT
  • 00:26:38.270 --> 00:26:40.010
  • MIGHT HAVE BEEN "JUNGLE BOOK,"
  • 00:26:40.010 --> 00:26:41.030
  • THE ORIGINAL "JUNGLE BOOK"
  • 00:26:41.030 --> 00:26:42.290
  • I DON'T KNOW WHEN THAT CAME OUT
  • 00:26:42.290 --> 00:26:44.180
  • PROBABLY MID OR LATE 60'S.
  • 00:26:45.270 --> 00:26:48.270
  • IN THAT PERIOD OF TIME, WHAT WAS
  • 00:26:48.270 --> 00:26:51.240
  • SOME OF THE MOVIES THAT
  • 00:26:51.240 --> 00:26:53.090
  • CAPTIVATED YOU?
  • 00:26:53.090 --> 00:26:54.040
  • YOU MENTIONED "SOUND OF MUSIC."
  • 00:26:54.040 --> 00:26:54.290
  • - YES, ALL THE MUSICALS, ALL
  • 00:26:54.290 --> 00:26:56.080
  • THE MUSICALS, THOSE.
  • 00:26:56.280 --> 00:26:59.280
  • - "GONE WITH THE WIND"?
  • 00:26:59.280 --> 00:27:01.060
  • - YES, AND WOULD HAVE SEEN IT
  • 00:27:01.070 --> 00:27:04.070
  • MANY, MANY, MANY TIMES, ENOUGH
  • 00:27:04.070 --> 00:27:05.140
  • TO MEMORIZE DIALOGUES.
  • 00:27:05.180 --> 00:27:08.180
  • TO THIS DAY, I COULD WATCH
  • 00:27:08.180 --> 00:27:09.270
  • "STEEL MAGNOLIAS" AND I COULD
  • 00:27:09.270 --> 00:27:12.140
  • SIT RIGHT THERE AND SAY EVERY
  • 00:27:12.250 --> 00:27:15.250
  • SINGLE LINE WITH THEM.
  • 00:27:15.250 --> 00:27:17.010
  • I COULD DO THE SAME THING WITH
  • 00:27:17.010 --> 00:27:17.230
  • "REMEMBER THE TITANS".
  • 00:27:17.230 --> 00:27:20.040
  • I LOVE MOVIES LIKE THAT AND
  • 00:27:20.040 --> 00:27:21.180
  • WATCH THEM OVER AND OVER AGAIN,
  • 00:27:21.180 --> 00:27:22.230
  • - "NACHO LIBRE."
  • 00:27:22.230 --> 00:27:24.060
  • - I COULD DO IT.
  • 00:27:24.060 --> 00:27:25.260
  • YES, I COULD.
  • 00:27:25.260 --> 00:27:28.260
  • "NAPOLEON DYNOMITE."
  • 00:27:28.260 --> 00:27:30.150
  • I COULD TELL YOU ALMOST EVERY
  • 00:27:30.150 --> 00:27:31.290
  • LINE OF IT.
  • 00:27:31.290 --> 00:27:33.120
  • I JUST LOVE IT.
  • 00:27:33.130 --> 00:27:36.130
  • I LOVE MOVIES.
  • 00:27:36.130 --> 00:27:38.210
  • - BACK IN THE DAY WHEN YOU
  • 00:27:38.210 --> 00:27:40.180
  • COULD SMELL THE POPCORN POPPING,
  • 00:27:40.180 --> 00:27:41.180
  • AND THE STICKY FLOOR FROM THE
  • 00:27:41.180 --> 00:27:42.260
  • COKE SPILLING, WHAT IS ONE OF
  • 00:27:43.090 --> 00:27:46.090
  • THE STORIES THAT CARRIED YOU
  • 00:27:46.090 --> 00:27:47.090
  • AWAY AND WHY?
  • 00:27:47.090 --> 00:27:50.090
  • - LET ME THINK.
  • 00:27:52.160 --> 00:27:55.160
  • THERE WERE TIMES AS A CHILD
  • 00:27:59.090 --> 00:28:02.110
  • GROWING UP IN A WORLD OF MOVIES
  • 00:28:02.110 --> 00:28:04.090
  • WHERE I COULD JUST WALK IN AND
  • 00:28:04.090 --> 00:28:06.060
  • OUT ANY TIME I WANTED TO AND MY
  • 00:28:06.060 --> 00:28:08.080
  • DAD WAS VERY PREOCCUPIED DOING
  • 00:28:08.080 --> 00:28:10.020
  • WHATEVER HE WAS DOING THAT I
  • 00:28:10.190 --> 00:28:13.190
  • ALSO WANDERED INTO THE THEATER
  • 00:28:13.190 --> 00:28:15.280
  • INTO SCENES AND THINGS THAT WERE
  • 00:28:15.280 --> 00:28:17.020
  • WAY OVER MY HEAD.
  • 00:28:17.020 --> 00:28:18.220
  • WAY OVER MY HEAD.
  • 00:28:20.110 --> 00:28:23.110
  • AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT
  • 00:28:23.110 --> 00:28:25.070
  • RESONATES WITH ME IN MY MEMORY
  • 00:28:25.070 --> 00:28:26.110
  • IS REALIZING THAT SOME OF THE
  • 00:28:27.000 --> 00:28:30.000
  • THINGS THAT I WAS SEEING ON THE
  • 00:28:30.000 --> 00:28:32.280
  • SCREEN WAS HAPPENING IN REAL
  • 00:28:33.020 --> 00:28:36.020
  • LIFE.
  • 00:28:36.020 --> 00:28:37.170
  • SOME OF THE HEARTBREAK AND THE
  • 00:28:38.200 --> 00:28:41.200
  • DIFFICULTIES AND THE CONFLICTS
  • 00:28:42.000 --> 00:28:45.000
  • WE HAD SO MANY PROBLEMS AND SO
  • 00:28:45.000 --> 00:28:46.290
  • MUCH INSTABILITY.
  • 00:28:46.290 --> 00:28:48.210
  • AND I CAN REMEMBER TIMES WHEN I
  • 00:28:48.210 --> 00:28:51.040
  • SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN IN THAT
  • 00:28:51.040 --> 00:28:52.010
  • THEATER.
  • 00:28:52.010 --> 00:28:53.150
  • I HAVE SO MANY MEMORIES OF
  • 00:28:53.150 --> 00:28:56.000
  • WONDERFUL MOVIES BUT ALSO OF
  • 00:28:56.000 --> 00:28:58.200
  • WANDERING IN SEEING THINGS THAT
  • 00:28:58.200 --> 00:29:01.100
  • WERE BEYOND MY YOUNG MIND AT THE
  • 00:29:01.100 --> 00:29:02.190
  • SAME TIME I WAS LIVING WITH
  • 00:29:02.190 --> 00:29:04.200
  • THINGS THAT WERE BEYOND MY YOUNG
  • 00:29:04.200 --> 00:29:06.050
  • MIND.
  • 00:29:06.050 --> 00:29:08.080
  • AND THE IMPRESSION OF THAT.
  • 00:29:09.090 --> 00:29:12.090
  • I THINK THAT IS PART OF THE
  • 00:29:12.090 --> 00:29:14.070
  • CONVOLUTED EXPERIENCE THAT IS MY
  • 00:29:14.070 --> 00:29:16.230
  • OWN STORY IS THAT I SAID A
  • 00:29:16.230 --> 00:29:19.130
  • NUMBER OF TIMES, I REALLY WAS
  • 00:29:19.130 --> 00:29:21.100
  • NOT A REBELLIOUS KID, BUT I WAS
  • 00:29:21.100 --> 00:29:22.120
  • TERRIBLY MESSED UP AND
  • 00:29:22.120 --> 00:29:24.010
  • RELATIONALLY.
  • 00:29:24.120 --> 00:29:27.120
  • SO CONFUSED AND SO
  • 00:29:27.120 --> 00:29:28.240
  • DYSFUNCTIONAL.
  • 00:29:34.210 --> 00:29:37.210
  • AND I WAS SO EXPOSED TO THAT ON
  • 00:29:37.210 --> 00:29:39.100
  • SCREEN AT TIMES AND THE REALITY
  • 00:29:39.230 --> 00:29:42.230
  • OF LIVING THAT KIND OF LIFE AT
  • 00:29:42.230 --> 00:29:44.190
  • HOME WAS QUITE STARTLING.
  • 00:29:44.190 --> 00:29:47.140
  • SO IT IS ACROSS THE BOARD THOSE
  • 00:29:47.140 --> 00:29:49.080
  • MEMORIES ARE VERY, VERY REAL TO
  • 00:29:49.080 --> 00:29:51.070
  • ME.
  • 00:29:51.140 --> 00:29:54.140
  • - THIS BOOK KIND OF TAKES A
  • 00:29:54.160 --> 00:29:57.160
  • JOURNEY A ONE HUNDRED YEAR
  • 00:29:57.160 --> 00:30:00.070
  • JOURNEY, AS IT WERE.
  • 00:30:00.070 --> 00:30:01.200
  • - YES.
  • 00:30:01.200 --> 00:30:02.260
  • - SO ARE YOU FOLLOWING MULTIPLE
  • 00:30:02.260 --> 00:30:05.210
  • GENERATIONS, WHY THEY ARE
  • 00:30:05.210 --> 00:30:06.200
  • DYSFUNCTIONAL.
  • 00:30:06.200 --> 00:30:09.050
  • HOW THEY START FINDING THEIR WAY
  • 00:30:09.050 --> 00:30:10.060
  • BACK INTO THE LIGHT AND CRAWLING
  • 00:30:11.170 --> 00:30:14.170
  • OUT OF THE DYSFUNCTION AND
  • 00:30:14.170 --> 00:30:17.020
  • MOVING IN, SO IN A WAY IT
  • 00:30:17.020 --> 00:30:18.280
  • CHRONICLES YOUR STORY.
  • 00:30:18.280 --> 00:30:19.230
  • YOU IDENTIFY SOME WAY WITH SOME
  • 00:30:19.230 --> 00:30:20.160
  • OF THESE CHARACTERS.
  • 00:30:20.160 --> 00:30:21.150
  • - YES.
  • 00:30:22.060 --> 00:30:25.060
  • LITTLE BITS AND PIECES, VERY
  • 00:30:25.060 --> 00:30:27.140
  • DIFFERENT STORY THAN MINE, BUT
  • 00:30:27.140 --> 00:30:29.060
  • DEFINITELY IN THE COMPLEXITY OF
  • 00:30:29.060 --> 00:30:30.050
  • RELATIONSHIP, YES.
  • 00:30:30.050 --> 00:30:31.160
  • - DID YOU WRITE IT FOR ANYBODY?
  • 00:30:31.160 --> 00:30:34.030
  • - NO.
  • 00:30:34.030 --> 00:30:34.180
  • - YOU DIDN'T.
  • 00:30:34.180 --> 00:30:35.190
  • - NOT FOR THE GIRLS.
  • 00:30:35.190 --> 00:30:36.250
  • - NO.
  • 00:30:36.250 --> 00:30:38.150
  • THE BIBLE STUDIES, IF WE WERE
  • 00:30:38.150 --> 00:30:41.100
  • TALKING ABOUT THE BIBLE STUDIES
  • 00:30:41.100 --> 00:30:42.120
  • I WOULD BE ABLE TO TELL YOU
  • 00:30:42.120 --> 00:30:43.120
  • ABSOLUTELY.
  • 00:30:43.120 --> 00:30:45.110
  • I HAVE PICTURES OF WOMEN THAT
  • 00:30:45.110 --> 00:30:47.040
  • HAVE TAKEN THE BIBLE STUDY
  • 00:30:47.040 --> 00:30:48.150
  • THROUGH THE YEARS.
  • 00:30:48.150 --> 00:30:50.060
  • I HAVE THEM ALL OVER THE PHONE,
  • 00:30:50.060 --> 00:30:52.020
  • SCREENSHOTS, SEEING THEM ON
  • 00:30:52.020 --> 00:30:53.110
  • TWITTER, SOCIAL MEDIA.
  • 00:30:53.110 --> 00:30:56.110
  • I THINK ABOUT THEM CONSTANTLY.
  • 00:30:57.080 --> 00:31:00.100
  • THIS WAS ME JUST GETTING TO GO
  • 00:31:00.100 --> 00:31:02.000
  • WHERE A STORYLINE WOULD TAKE ME.
  • 00:31:02.000 --> 00:31:04.170
  • I DID NOT REALLY KNOW IF ANYONE
  • 00:31:04.170 --> 00:31:05.090
  • WOULD READ IT.
  • 00:31:05.090 --> 00:31:06.040
  • I DIDN'T KNOW IF I WOULD HAND IT
  • 00:31:06.040 --> 00:31:06.260
  • OVER.
  • 00:31:06.260 --> 00:31:07.250
  • IT WAS THE MOST VULNERABLE
  • 00:31:07.250 --> 00:31:08.160
  • THING.
  • 00:31:08.160 --> 00:31:09.220
  • THE BIBLE STUDY, SOMEBODY'S
  • 00:31:09.220 --> 00:31:11.180
  • LOOKING AT BENEFIT OF A LOT
  • 00:31:11.180 --> 00:31:12.160
  • STUDY, COMMENTARIES THAT ARE
  • 00:31:12.160 --> 00:31:14.060
  • QUOTED.
  • 00:31:14.060 --> 00:31:16.150
  • I'VE DONE MY HOMEWORK ON THOSE
  • 00:31:16.150 --> 00:31:17.160
  • THINGS.
  • 00:31:17.200 --> 00:31:20.200
  • THIS IS LOOKING INTO MY
  • 00:31:20.200 --> 00:31:21.180
  • IMAGINATION.
  • 00:31:21.180 --> 00:31:22.070
  • THAT IS VERY VULNERABLE.
  • 00:31:22.070 --> 00:31:24.140
  • I GOT TO TELL YOU ONE THING I
  • 00:31:24.140 --> 00:31:26.040
  • HOPE SOMEBODY'S BLESSED BY, IT
  • 00:31:26.040 --> 00:31:27.230
  • HAS A LOT OF COLOR IN IT.
  • 00:31:27.230 --> 00:31:29.090
  • BY THAT, I MEAN, THERE ARE
  • 00:31:29.190 --> 00:31:32.190
  • CAUCASIAN, THERE ARE BLACK
  • 00:31:32.190 --> 00:31:34.230
  • CHARACTERS.
  • 00:31:35.120 --> 00:31:38.120
  • THERE IS A HISPANIC CHARACTER,
  • 00:31:39.170 --> 00:31:42.170
  • THERE IS HUGE, I LOVE COLOR.
  • 00:31:42.170 --> 00:31:43.290
  • - SPICE.
  • 00:31:43.290 --> 00:31:44.150
  • - YES.
  • 00:31:44.150 --> 00:31:45.110
  • I TOLD SOMEONE RECENTLY, I
  • 00:31:45.120 --> 00:31:48.120
  • CANNOT IMAGINE LIFE AND
  • 00:31:49.180 --> 00:31:52.180
  • RELATIONSHIP WITHOUT COLOR.
  • 00:31:52.180 --> 00:31:53.280
  • ACROSS THE BOARD, THE DARKEST
  • 00:31:55.020 --> 00:31:58.020
  • DARK TO THE WHITEST WHITE AND
  • 00:31:58.020 --> 00:31:59.240
  • FRECKLES ACROSS THE NOSE, GIVE
  • 00:31:59.240 --> 00:32:01.080
  • ME EVERYTHING, I LOVE DIVERSITY.
  • 00:32:01.080 --> 00:32:03.150
  • - RED, YELLOW, BLACK AND WHITE.
  • 00:32:03.150 --> 00:32:04.140
  • - YES.
  • 00:32:04.140 --> 00:32:05.130
  • - MULTI CULTURAL.
  • 00:32:05.130 --> 00:32:06.120
  • - PRECIOUS IN HIS SIGHT.
  • 00:32:06.120 --> 00:32:08.000
  • - YES.
  • 00:32:08.000 --> 00:32:08.240
  • - BETH MOORE SAID AFTER SELLING
  • 00:32:08.240 --> 00:32:10.250
  • MILLIONS OF BIBLE STUDIES,
  • 00:32:10.250 --> 00:32:13.070
  • MILLIONS, BETH MOORE, HER,
  • 00:32:13.210 --> 00:32:16.210
  • MILLIONS OF BIBLE STUDIES, SHE
  • 00:32:16.210 --> 00:32:19.170
  • HAS WRITTEN HER FIRST NOVEL AND
  • 00:32:19.170 --> 00:32:22.040
  • JUST MADE THE STATEMENT IF YOU
  • 00:32:22.040 --> 00:32:24.030
  • WERE LISTENING OR WERE NOT
  • 00:32:24.030 --> 00:32:25.240
  • LISTENING OR JUST TUNED IN, THE
  • 00:32:25.240 --> 00:32:27.270
  • MOST VULNERABLE THING I'VE EVER
  • 00:32:27.270 --> 00:32:28.210
  • DONE.
  • 00:32:33.000 --> 00:32:36.000
  • SO, WITH THAT SAID, THAT IS-- I
  • 00:32:36.000 --> 00:32:38.060
  • MEAN, YOU ARE NOT NEW TO BEING
  • 00:32:38.060 --> 00:32:40.090
  • AN AUTHOR, YOU'RE AN ESTABLISHED
  • 00:32:40.090 --> 00:32:41.290
  • AUTHOR.
  • 00:32:41.290 --> 00:32:43.020
  • THERE IS AN ENTIRE SECTION OF
  • 00:32:45.030 --> 00:32:48.030
  • STORES, WE HAVE A STORE CALLED
  • 00:32:48.030 --> 00:32:50.040
  • LIFEWAY.
  • 00:32:50.040 --> 00:32:52.170
  • - I LOVE THE LIFEWAY STORE.
  • 00:32:52.170 --> 00:32:55.150
  • - I DO TOO.
  • 00:32:55.150 --> 00:32:57.140
  • - THEY HAVE THESE STORES.
  • 00:32:57.140 --> 00:32:59.260
  • I WENT IN ONE THE OTHER DAY.
  • 00:32:59.260 --> 00:33:01.030
  • I JUST WENT IN ONE THE OTHER DAY
  • 00:33:01.030 --> 00:33:02.010
  • IN ORANGE COUNTY, CALIFORNIA.
  • 00:33:02.060 --> 00:33:05.060
  • IT WAS LIKE THE BACK HALF OF THE
  • 00:33:05.060 --> 00:33:06.110
  • STORE THERE WERE LIKE NINE
  • 00:33:06.110 --> 00:33:07.140
  • HUNDRED PICTURES OF YOU.
  • 00:33:07.140 --> 00:33:09.010
  • IT WAS LIKE.
  • 00:33:09.020 --> 00:33:12.020
  • - WE HAVE BEEN TOGETHER A LONG
  • 00:33:12.020 --> 00:33:14.220
  • TIME.
  • 00:33:14.220 --> 00:33:15.250
  • WE SAW PICTURES OF YOU WHEN YOU
  • 00:33:15.250 --> 00:33:16.220
  • WERE A LITTLE GIRL.
  • 00:33:16.220 --> 00:33:19.200
  • THEY ARE ALL OVER THE WALLS.
  • 00:33:19.200 --> 00:33:20.290
  • - YOU HAD PIGTAILS AND
  • 00:33:20.290 --> 00:33:21.190
  • EVERYTHING.
  • 00:33:21.190 --> 00:33:23.250
  • YOU ARE NOT NEW TO THE GAME OF
  • 00:33:24.120 --> 00:33:27.120
  • PUTTING YOUR MINISTRY DOWN ON
  • 00:33:27.230 --> 00:33:30.230
  • PAPER AND GIVING IT TO THE
  • 00:33:30.230 --> 00:33:31.170
  • WORLD.
  • 00:33:31.170 --> 00:33:32.080
  • - THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:33:32.080 --> 00:33:33.290
  • - SO WHY WAS THIS VULNERABLE?
  • 00:33:34.260 --> 00:33:37.260
  • - OKAY, BECAUSE-- IT'S NOT MY
  • 00:33:37.260 --> 00:33:39.220
  • FAULT THAT GOD ADDED THE STORY
  • 00:33:41.120 --> 00:33:44.120
  • OF ABRAHAM AND HAGAR, DAVID AND
  • 00:33:44.120 --> 00:33:47.050
  • BATHSHEBA, THAT WE HAVE THIS
  • 00:33:47.050 --> 00:33:49.060
  • HOSEA AND HIS-- I'M NOT
  • 00:33:49.060 --> 00:33:52.000
  • RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL THAT.
  • 00:33:52.000 --> 00:33:54.210
  • I'M JUST SIMPLY TEACHING THE
  • 00:33:54.210 --> 00:33:56.190
  • SCRIPTURES WHERE HE SETTLES ME.
  • 00:33:56.190 --> 00:33:58.230
  • THIS TIME IT WAS MINE.
  • 00:33:59.020 --> 00:34:02.040
  • IT WAS AS IF I'M LOOKING AT A
  • 00:34:02.040 --> 00:34:04.110
  • STORY OF WHAT I THINK IS-- HAS
  • 00:34:04.110 --> 00:34:07.090
  • DEPTH TO IT, IT IS A
  • 00:34:07.090 --> 00:34:08.070
  • MULTIDIMENSIONAL STORY.
  • 00:34:08.070 --> 00:34:09.130
  • NOW IT'S ON ME.
  • 00:34:10.060 --> 00:34:13.060
  • ALSO, I'M RESPONSIBLE FOR HOW I
  • 00:34:13.060 --> 00:34:14.290
  • LIVED OUT MY STORY.
  • 00:34:14.290 --> 00:34:16.130
  • SOME OF MY STORY THAT WAS HARD
  • 00:34:16.130 --> 00:34:19.080
  • WAS ALSO PLACED UPON ME, SO YOU
  • 00:34:19.080 --> 00:34:20.240
  • SEE ALL THIS.
  • 00:34:21.040 --> 00:34:24.040
  • I CAN DO ALL THAT THERE.
  • 00:34:24.040 --> 00:34:25.030
  • HERE IT WAS ALL.
  • 00:34:25.030 --> 00:34:26.150
  • IT IS ALL BACK ON MY DESK,
  • 00:34:26.150 --> 00:34:27.280
  • CERTAINLY LIKE BREAKING FREE,
  • 00:34:27.280 --> 00:34:29.140
  • SEVERAL BOOKS I'VE WRITTEN HAVE
  • 00:34:29.140 --> 00:34:31.070
  • BEEN EXTREMELY VULNERABLE.
  • 00:34:31.270 --> 00:34:34.270
  • BUT THERE WAS SOMETHING ABOUT
  • 00:34:34.270 --> 00:34:35.220
  • IT.
  • 00:34:35.220 --> 00:34:36.130
  • I DON'T KNOW, I THINK THERE IS
  • 00:34:36.130 --> 00:34:38.000
  • ALSO THAT THING IN YOU THAT
  • 00:34:38.000 --> 00:34:39.190
  • GOES, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO THINK
  • 00:34:39.190 --> 00:34:40.110
  • I'M STUPID.
  • 00:34:40.110 --> 00:34:42.170
  • YOU KNOW, I JUST DID NOT KNOW.
  • 00:34:42.170 --> 00:34:44.100
  • IT WAS THE HARDEST THING FOR ME
  • 00:34:44.100 --> 00:34:45.260
  • TO EVER LET IT GO TO HAVE IT
  • 00:34:45.260 --> 00:34:48.220
  • READ THE FIRST TIME, BECAUSE I
  • 00:34:48.220 --> 00:34:50.220
  • THOUGHT THEY ARE GOING TO GO,
  • 00:34:50.220 --> 00:34:52.100
  • YOU'RE AN IDIOT AND YOU CAN'T
  • 00:34:52.100 --> 00:34:54.000
  • WRITE FICTION AND YOU MADE A
  • 00:34:54.000 --> 00:34:54.250
  • FOOL OF YOURSELF.
  • 00:34:54.250 --> 00:34:55.250
  • CAN I TELL YOU ONE OTHER THING,
  • 00:34:55.250 --> 00:34:58.040
  • IT MAY BE, I DON'T KNOW IF
  • 00:34:58.040 --> 00:34:59.100
  • LAURIE FELT THIS OR NOT.
  • 00:34:59.100 --> 00:35:01.120
  • I FOUND OUT FOR MY FRIENDS AFTER
  • 00:35:01.120 --> 00:35:04.090
  • THEY READ IT THAT THEY WERE SO
  • 00:35:04.090 --> 00:35:05.210
  • WORRIED THEY WERE NEARLY SICK
  • 00:35:05.210 --> 00:35:06.170
  • WHEN THEY STARTED READING
  • 00:35:06.170 --> 00:35:07.180
  • BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT WHAT IF
  • 00:35:07.180 --> 00:35:08.150
  • IT'S NOT GOOD.
  • 00:35:08.150 --> 00:35:09.100
  • THEY TOLD ME OVER AND OVER THAT
  • 00:35:09.100 --> 00:35:10.250
  • THEY WERE SO WORRIED.
  • 00:35:11.280 --> 00:35:14.280
  • THEY SAID THEY HESITATED, ONE
  • 00:35:14.280 --> 00:35:17.110
  • TOLD ME SHE HAD BUTTERFLIES IN
  • 00:35:17.110 --> 00:35:18.180
  • HER STOMACH BECAUSE THEY LOVE
  • 00:35:18.180 --> 00:35:20.230
  • ME.
  • 00:35:20.230 --> 00:35:21.140
  • AND WE WILL HAVE TO WATCH HER
  • 00:35:21.140 --> 00:35:22.230
  • FRY LIKE A CHICKEN OUT THERE,
  • 00:35:23.090 --> 00:35:26.090
  • FRY LIKE A CHICKEN IN REVIEWS.
  • 00:35:26.250 --> 00:35:29.250
  • BECAUSE I'M SO NEW TO IT.
  • 00:35:29.250 --> 00:35:31.200
  • IT WAS A FUNNY PART OF IT.
  • 00:35:31.200 --> 00:35:33.020
  • THEY FELT THE VULNERABILITY FOR
  • 00:35:33.020 --> 00:35:34.190
  • ME.
  • 00:35:34.190 --> 00:35:35.230
  • ISN'T THAT CRAZY?
  • 00:35:37.270 --> 00:35:40.270
  • - WE ARE TALKING ABOUT "THE
  • 00:35:40.270 --> 00:35:42.020
  • UNDOING OF SAINT SILVANUS".
  • 00:35:43.040 --> 00:35:46.040
  • WHY IS YOUR TITLE WRAPPED AROUND
  • 00:35:46.040 --> 00:35:47.280
  • THE LOCATION?
  • 00:35:47.280 --> 00:35:49.170
  • THIS IS A LOCATION.
  • 00:35:49.170 --> 00:35:50.110
  • THIS IS A PLACE.
  • 00:35:50.110 --> 00:35:51.140
  • - YES, IT IS.
  • 00:35:51.140 --> 00:35:52.100
  • - WHY THAT?
  • 00:35:52.100 --> 00:35:54.240
  • - I LOVED THE IDEA OF
  • 00:35:55.210 --> 00:35:58.210
  • RECOGNIZING THE CHURCH AS A
  • 00:35:59.160 --> 00:36:02.180
  • GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT WHEN WE
  • 00:36:03.280 --> 00:36:06.280
  • THINK FOR THOSE OF US WHO ARE IN
  • 00:36:06.280 --> 00:36:09.080
  • THE CHRISTIAN FAITH, WHEN WE SAY
  • 00:36:09.080 --> 00:36:12.060
  • THE WORD CHURCH, TRADITIONALLY
  • 00:36:12.060 --> 00:36:14.050
  • WE GET AN IDEA IN OUR MINDS THIS
  • 00:36:14.050 --> 00:36:15.220
  • IS WHAT A CHURCH LOOKS LIKE.
  • 00:36:15.220 --> 00:36:17.290
  • WELL, IN SCRIPTURES THE CHURCH
  • 00:36:17.290 --> 00:36:20.080
  • IS MADE UP OF PEOPLE, IT IS
  • 00:36:20.080 --> 00:36:22.120
  • FLESH AND BLOOD.
  • 00:36:24.210 --> 00:36:27.210
  • IT DOES NOT HAVE WALLS MADE WITH
  • 00:36:27.210 --> 00:36:28.240
  • HANDS AND FLOORS YOU CAN SWEEP.
  • 00:36:28.240 --> 00:36:30.060
  • THE FOUNDATION IS THE APOSTLES
  • 00:36:30.060 --> 00:36:32.030
  • AND THE PROPHETS CHRIST JESUS
  • 00:36:32.030 --> 00:36:33.100
  • HIMSELF BEING THE CORNERSTONE.
  • 00:36:33.100 --> 00:36:35.040
  • WE ARE THE CHURCH.
  • 00:36:35.040 --> 00:36:36.230
  • WE ARE THE CHURCH.
  • 00:36:36.230 --> 00:36:38.260
  • AND I WANTED TO CONVEY THAT.
  • 00:36:38.260 --> 00:36:41.110
  • WHAT YOU WILL SEE AS IT GOES BY
  • 00:36:41.130 --> 00:36:44.130
  • IS WHAT STARTED AS A VERY
  • 00:36:45.180 --> 00:36:48.180
  • TYPICAL TRADITIONAL IDEA OF
  • 00:36:48.180 --> 00:36:50.210
  • CHURCH ONE HUNDRED YEARS BEFORE
  • 00:36:50.210 --> 00:36:52.040
  • WITH SUCH HOPE OF HOW WONDERFUL
  • 00:36:52.040 --> 00:36:54.010
  • IT WAS GOING TO BE, HOW
  • 00:36:55.200 --> 00:36:58.200
  • IDEALISTIC THAT PASTOR WAS, HOW
  • 00:36:58.200 --> 00:37:00.240
  • GREAT THE EXPERIENCE.
  • 00:37:00.240 --> 00:37:01.210
  • IT WAS GOING TO BE A FABULOUS
  • 00:37:01.210 --> 00:37:03.040
  • CHURCH, AND THE CHURCH IS MADE
  • 00:37:03.040 --> 00:37:05.100
  • UP OF VERY FLAWED PEOPLE AND
  • 00:37:05.180 --> 00:37:08.180
  • THINGS BEGAN TO FALL APART AND
  • 00:37:08.180 --> 00:37:10.210
  • GOSSIP AND SLANDER WITHIN THE
  • 00:37:10.210 --> 00:37:11.220
  • CHURCH.
  • 00:37:11.240 --> 00:37:14.240
  • AND WHERE THIS WENT AND THE
  • 00:37:14.240 --> 00:37:15.150
  • BROKENNESS THAT CAME FROM IT.
  • 00:37:15.150 --> 00:37:16.230
  • SO BY THE TIME, IT IS ONE
  • 00:37:16.230 --> 00:37:18.060
  • HUNDRED YEARS LATER, WHAT I'M
  • 00:37:18.060 --> 00:37:19.150
  • HOPING THEY WILL SEE BY THE END,
  • 00:37:19.150 --> 00:37:22.040
  • IN SOME RESPECTS AS GOD SEEKS
  • 00:37:23.090 --> 00:37:26.090
  • OUT EACH ONE OF THESE IN VARYING
  • 00:37:27.150 --> 00:37:30.150
  • DEGREES BY THE TIME IT'S SAID
  • 00:37:30.150 --> 00:37:32.080
  • AND DONE IN VARYING DEGREES THEY
  • 00:37:32.080 --> 00:37:33.250
  • RESPONDED BECAUSE THAT IS REAL
  • 00:37:33.250 --> 00:37:35.030
  • LIFE FOR US.
  • 00:37:35.030 --> 00:37:37.220
  • SOME HAVE MADE SOME DECISIONS,
  • 00:37:37.220 --> 00:37:39.080
  • OTHERS YOU WONDER IF THEY ARE
  • 00:37:39.080 --> 00:37:40.280
  • ENROUTE.
  • 00:37:40.280 --> 00:37:42.070
  • OTHERS THEIR HEARTS MAY STILL BE
  • 00:37:42.070 --> 00:37:44.090
  • COMPLETELY COLD.
  • 00:37:44.090 --> 00:37:45.280
  • BUT IT IS PEOPLE BECOMING THE
  • 00:37:45.280 --> 00:37:46.190
  • CHURCH.
  • 00:37:46.190 --> 00:37:48.010
  • - SO, SAINT SILVANUS IS A
  • 00:37:48.010 --> 00:37:49.260
  • METAPHOR FOR THE PEOPLE, YOU
  • 00:37:49.260 --> 00:37:51.140
  • WANTED TO MAKE A STATEMENT ABOUT
  • 00:37:51.140 --> 00:37:52.170
  • THAT.
  • 00:37:52.170 --> 00:37:55.050
  • THE BOOK, BRAND NEW BY BETH
  • 00:37:55.050 --> 00:37:56.260
  • MOORE, HER FIRST NOVEL.
  • 00:37:57.150 --> 00:38:00.170
  • IF A BIBLE STUDY IS A BOOK, AND
  • 00:38:00.170 --> 00:38:02.100
  • IT IS.
  • 00:38:02.100 --> 00:38:03.240
  • IT IS A BIBLE STUDY BUT A BOOK,
  • 00:38:03.240 --> 00:38:05.270
  • HOW MANY DIFFERENT WORKS HAVE
  • 00:38:05.270 --> 00:38:07.160
  • YOU BEEN A PART OF?
  • 00:38:07.160 --> 00:38:08.240
  • WHAT NUMBER IS THIS?
  • 00:38:11.100 --> 00:38:14.100
  • - DO YOU KNOW THAT MY ASSISTANT
  • 00:38:14.100 --> 00:38:16.050
  • WAS TELLING ME THAT TODAY
  • 00:38:16.050 --> 00:38:18.080
  • BECAUSE SHE HAD IT COME UP IN A
  • 00:38:18.080 --> 00:38:19.250
  • QUESTION, AN INTERVIEW QUESTION
  • 00:38:19.250 --> 00:38:21.070
  • THAT SOMEBODY CALLED BACK IN.
  • 00:38:21.070 --> 00:38:22.040
  • - IT WAS ME.
  • 00:38:25.280 --> 00:38:28.280
  • I CALLED EARLIER.
  • 00:38:28.280 --> 00:38:29.250
  • - THEY WANTED TO DOUBLE CHECK
  • 00:38:29.250 --> 00:38:31.020
  • THEY WERE PUTTING IN AN ARTICLE
  • 00:38:31.020 --> 00:38:31.260
  • ABOUT THIS BOOK.
  • 00:38:31.260 --> 00:38:32.140
  • I THINK SHE SAID, I THINK IT IS
  • 00:38:32.140 --> 00:38:33.110
  • SOMEWHERE AROUND SOMEWHERE
  • 00:38:33.110 --> 00:38:34.040
  • AROUND 26 OR 27 BOOKS.
  • 00:38:34.040 --> 00:38:34.230
  • - OKAY.
  • 00:38:34.230 --> 00:38:37.120
  • THE 26 OR 27 WORK OF BETH MOORE
  • 00:38:37.120 --> 00:38:39.120
  • IS A NOVEL.
  • 00:38:39.250 --> 00:38:42.250
  • AND WE ARE UNCOVERING THAT.
  • 00:38:44.030 --> 00:38:47.030
  • THIS CHURCH IS NOT REALLY ABOUT
  • 00:38:47.030 --> 00:38:49.170
  • THE BARS IN FRONT OF IT OR THE
  • 00:38:49.170 --> 00:38:51.200
  • CONCRETE OR THE DOOR OR THE
  • 00:38:51.200 --> 00:38:54.000
  • FLOORS, IT IS ABOUT THE PEOPLE.
  • 00:38:56.270 --> 00:38:59.270
  • SO THE STORY OF THIS UNDOING AND
  • 00:38:59.270 --> 00:39:01.030
  • THEN ULTIMATELY RECONCILIATION
  • 00:39:01.030 --> 00:39:01.290
  • IS WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT.
  • 00:39:01.290 --> 00:39:02.200
  • BETH MOORE'S NEW BOOK.
  • 00:39:02.200 --> 00:39:04.060
  • WE ARE SO PROUD THAT THIS WORKS
  • 00:39:04.060 --> 00:39:06.070
  • OUT, THANK YOU TYNDALE, THANK
  • 00:39:07.240 --> 00:39:10.240
  • YOU BETH, ALL OUR COORDINATED
  • 00:39:10.240 --> 00:39:12.250
  • EFFORTS CAME TO THIS TIME WHERE
  • 00:39:12.250 --> 00:39:14.000
  • WE CAN SIT HERE AND SAY THE
  • 00:39:14.000 --> 00:39:15.280
  • NUMBER ON THE SCREEN IS FOR YOU
  • 00:39:15.280 --> 00:39:17.090
  • AND YOU CAN HAVE THIS AND WE ARE
  • 00:39:17.090 --> 00:39:19.190
  • MAKING IT EASIER FOR YOU.
  • 00:39:19.190 --> 00:39:21.000
  • CALL THE NUMBER.
  • 00:39:21.000 --> 00:39:22.130
  • THE PERSON THERE IS ALREADY
  • 00:39:22.130 --> 00:39:23.150
  • PREPARED.
  • 00:39:23.150 --> 00:39:24.270
  • THEY KNOW ABOUT THIS.
  • 00:39:24.270 --> 00:39:26.210
  • AND THEY KNOW ABOUT THE BOOK.
  • 00:39:26.210 --> 00:39:28.240
  • I'M SO PROUD OF THAT THAT WILL
  • 00:39:41.230 --> 00:39:44.230
  • NOT GO HUH?
  • 00:39:44.230 --> 00:39:46.010
  • OR THE OPERATOR DOES NOT HAVE TO
  • 00:39:46.010 --> 00:39:47.000
  • SEARCH SCRIPTS AND TRY TO FIND
  • 00:39:47.000 --> 00:39:48.020
  • OUT WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT.
  • 00:39:48.190 --> 00:39:51.190
  • EVERY ONE IS READY FOUR.
  • 00:39:51.190 --> 00:39:52.080
  • JUST CALL THE NUMBER.
  • 00:39:52.080 --> 00:39:52.250
  • WE TRY TO MAKE THIS SIMPLE.
  • 00:39:52.250 --> 00:39:53.170
  • WE WANT TO CARE ABOUT THE
  • 00:39:53.170 --> 00:39:54.100
  • CONTENT THAT WE MAKE AVAILABLE
  • 00:39:54.100 --> 00:39:55.040
  • TO YOU.
  • 00:39:55.040 --> 00:39:55.270
  • OKAY.
  • 00:39:55.270 --> 00:39:56.290
  • WITH THIS LITTLE MOMENT WE HAVE
  • 00:39:56.290 --> 00:39:57.290
  • ABOUT 15 MINUTES LEFT IN THIS
  • 00:39:57.290 --> 00:39:58.270
  • BROADCAST.
  • 00:39:58.270 --> 00:40:00.050
  • AND WE ARE TALKING ABOUT BETH,
  • 00:40:00.050 --> 00:40:01.130
  • YOUR LIFE AND THIS NEW WORK.
  • 00:40:01.130 --> 00:40:02.230
  • BUT THERE IS A LITTLE JUMPING
  • 00:40:02.230 --> 00:40:04.150
  • OFF POINT HERE WHERE WE ARE
  • 00:40:04.150 --> 00:40:06.150
  • MAKING A POINT ABOUT THE CHURCH
  • 00:40:06.150 --> 00:40:08.010
  • IS NOT ABOUT BUILDINGS AND IN
  • 00:40:08.010 --> 00:40:10.020
  • ESSENCE CHRISTIAN TELEVISION
  • 00:40:10.020 --> 00:40:11.250
  • ISN'T ABOUT SATELLITES AND
  • 00:40:11.250 --> 00:40:13.080
  • STUDIOS, IT IS ABOUT THE PEOPLE
  • 00:40:13.080 --> 00:40:14.260
  • THAT ARE HELPED AND TOUCHED AND
  • 00:40:14.260 --> 00:40:15.260
  • ALL THAT.
  • 00:40:15.260 --> 00:40:18.180
  • SO, IN THIS MOMENT, IF WE ARE
  • 00:40:18.180 --> 00:40:20.200
  • THINKING ABOUT SOME OF THE
  • 00:40:20.200 --> 00:40:22.030
  • CHARACTERS OF YOUR BOOK AND HOW
  • 00:40:22.030 --> 00:40:23.230
  • THEIR LIVES WERE TORN APART
  • 00:40:23.230 --> 00:40:25.110
  • THERE ARE PEOPLE WATCHING THAT
  • 00:40:25.110 --> 00:40:27.240
  • SAYS, WOULDN'T IT BE GREAT TO
  • 00:40:27.240 --> 00:40:29.060
  • READ THAT BOOK?
  • 00:40:29.060 --> 00:40:30.270
  • WOULDN'T IT BE GREAT TO HAVE IT
  • 00:40:30.270 --> 00:40:32.070
  • HELP ME?
  • 00:40:32.070 --> 00:40:34.100
  • YOU ARE SITTING HERE RIGHT HERE
  • 00:40:34.100 --> 00:40:36.050
  • RIGHT NOW AND THEY ARE HURTING
  • 00:40:36.050 --> 00:40:37.070
  • RIGHT HERE RIGHT NOW.
  • 00:40:37.070 --> 00:40:40.070
  • TAKE A MOMENT AND JUST TALK TO
  • 00:40:40.070 --> 00:40:41.010
  • THE PEOPLE.
  • 00:40:41.010 --> 00:40:41.280
  • - I'D LOVE TO DO THAT.
  • 00:40:41.280 --> 00:40:43.020
  • - PRAY FOR THEM IF YOU FEEL
  • 00:40:43.020 --> 00:40:43.240
  • THAT WAY.
  • 00:40:44.030 --> 00:40:47.030
  • - I WOULD LOVE TO DO THAT WHAT
  • 00:40:47.030 --> 00:40:48.100
  • I WANT YOU TO KNOW WHAT TOOK ME
  • 00:40:48.100 --> 00:40:49.230
  • MANY YEARS TO RECOGNIZE AND
  • 00:40:49.230 --> 00:40:51.290
  • SOMEHOW WAS SO FREEING TO ME,
  • 00:40:52.090 --> 00:40:55.090
  • EVEN AS YOU LOOK BACK OVER YOUR
  • 00:40:55.090 --> 00:40:57.050
  • LIFE AND YOU THINK, I'VE GOT THE
  • 00:40:57.050 --> 00:40:58.280
  • WORST STORY EVER, NO, NO YOU
  • 00:40:58.280 --> 00:41:00.110
  • DON'T.
  • 00:41:00.110 --> 00:41:02.180
  • BECAUSE HERE IS THE BEAUTIFUL
  • 00:41:02.180 --> 00:41:03.180
  • THING, YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING
  • 00:41:05.040 --> 00:41:08.040
  • BEHIND YOU THAT GOD CAN NOT MAKE
  • 00:41:08.040 --> 00:41:09.210
  • BEAUTIFUL IN HIS REDEMPTIVE
  • 00:41:09.210 --> 00:41:10.110
  • PLAN.
  • 00:41:10.110 --> 00:41:12.150
  • WHEN HE BRINGS YOU OUT THE OTHER
  • 00:41:12.150 --> 00:41:14.160
  • SIDE AND YOU ARE ABLE TO TESTIFY
  • 00:41:14.160 --> 00:41:16.130
  • TO HIS GOODNESS, ALL THAT DRAMA.
  • 00:41:16.130 --> 00:41:19.020
  • WHEN I LOOK BACK AND THINK, I
  • 00:41:19.110 --> 00:41:22.110
  • THOUGHT ALONG THE WAY I KNOW YOU
  • 00:41:22.230 --> 00:41:25.230
  • THOUGHT THIS TOO, WHAT YOU GIVE
  • 00:41:25.230 --> 00:41:27.020
  • TO BE ABLE TO REWRITE YOUR OWN
  • 00:41:27.020 --> 00:41:29.060
  • STORY AND IF YOU ARE LIKE ME YOU
  • 00:41:29.060 --> 00:41:30.010
  • WOULD WRITE OUT ALL YOUR OWN
  • 00:41:30.010 --> 00:41:31.270
  • SIN, IF YOU LET ME BE SO BOLD
  • 00:41:31.270 --> 00:41:34.160
  • AND SAY MY OWN STUPIDITY, ALL MY
  • 00:41:34.160 --> 00:41:36.000
  • FOOLISH DECISION I WOULD THROW
  • 00:41:36.000 --> 00:41:37.240
  • ALL THAT OUT AND MY
  • 00:41:37.240 --> 00:41:40.010
  • VICTIMIZATION IN MY CHILDHOOD
  • 00:41:40.010 --> 00:41:42.200
  • THAT I HAVE BEEN THROUGH,
  • 00:41:42.200 --> 00:41:43.200
  • MOLESTATION AND SEXUAL ABUSE AND
  • 00:41:43.200 --> 00:41:45.200
  • SO MUCH INSTABILITY AND
  • 00:41:45.200 --> 00:41:47.050
  • DYSFUNCTION.
  • 00:41:47.050 --> 00:41:49.260
  • I WOULD THROW ALL THAT OUT.
  • 00:41:49.260 --> 00:41:52.130
  • WHAT I WOULD HAVE LEFT IS
  • 00:41:52.130 --> 00:41:53.110
  • NOTHING TO TELL.
  • 00:41:54.060 --> 00:41:57.060
  • EVERYBODY DOES NOT HAVE TO HAVE
  • 00:41:57.060 --> 00:41:58.050
  • A DRAMATIC STORY LIKE THAT WITH
  • 00:41:59.000 --> 00:42:02.020
  • DARKNESS, WHERE IT COMES TO THAT
  • 00:42:02.020 --> 00:42:03.040
  • KIND OF A DEEP PIT.
  • 00:42:03.040 --> 00:42:05.060
  • ALL OF US HAVE KNOWN THAT SENSE
  • 00:42:05.060 --> 00:42:06.100
  • OF BEING LOST, FEELING
  • 00:42:06.100 --> 00:42:07.250
  • INSIGNIFICANT FEELING, FEELING
  • 00:42:07.250 --> 00:42:09.130
  • LIKE YOU DON'T HAVE A PLACE,
  • 00:42:09.130 --> 00:42:10.250
  • LIKE NONE OF IT MAKES SENSE,
  • 00:42:10.250 --> 00:42:12.050
  • NONE OF IT COMES TOGETHER, IN
  • 00:42:12.050 --> 00:42:13.090
  • JESUS IT DOES.
  • 00:42:13.090 --> 00:42:14.090
  • HE SAYS LITERALLY, HIS WORD.
  • 00:42:14.090 --> 00:42:16.060
  • WE USE THIS VERSE OVER AND OVER
  • 00:42:16.080 --> 00:42:19.080
  • THE REASON WE DO IS BECAUSE IT'S
  • 00:42:19.080 --> 00:42:20.120
  • SO PROFOUND.
  • 00:42:20.120 --> 00:42:21.200
  • HE REALLY DOES WORK EVERYTHING
  • 00:42:21.200 --> 00:42:23.230
  • TOGETHER FOR GOOD FOR THOSE WHO
  • 00:42:23.230 --> 00:42:25.190
  • LOVE HIM AND ARE CALLED
  • 00:42:25.190 --> 00:42:27.010
  • ACCORDING TO HIS PURPOSE.
  • 00:42:27.010 --> 00:42:28.270
  • THAT MEANS NO MATTER WHAT WE
  • 00:42:28.270 --> 00:42:31.260
  • HAVE BEEN THROUGH, AS HE WORKS
  • 00:42:32.090 --> 00:42:35.090
  • THROUGH OUR REDEMPTION, AS HE
  • 00:42:35.090 --> 00:42:36.060
  • BRINGS US OUT INTO THE LIGHT AND
  • 00:42:36.060 --> 00:42:38.130
  • AS WE EXPOSE ALL OUR DARKNESS TO
  • 00:42:38.130 --> 00:42:39.050
  • HIM.
  • 00:42:39.050 --> 00:42:40.060
  • EVEN THE DARKNESS OF DOUBT.
  • 00:42:40.060 --> 00:42:41.080
  • YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE DEEP IN A
  • 00:42:41.080 --> 00:42:42.070
  • PIT.
  • 00:42:43.010 --> 00:42:46.010
  • YOU JUST HAVE TO FEEL NUMB OR
  • 00:42:46.010 --> 00:42:46.270
  • DEMORALIZED BY THIS WORLD LIKE
  • 00:42:46.270 --> 00:42:47.250
  • YOU HAVE NO PLACE IN IT AND
  • 00:42:47.250 --> 00:42:48.260
  • SUDDENLY EVERYTHING COMES TO
  • 00:42:48.260 --> 00:42:50.080
  • LIFE.
  • 00:42:52.010 --> 00:42:55.010
  • BECAUSE IN HIS LIGHT IS LIFE.
  • 00:42:55.010 --> 00:42:57.250
  • AND EVERYTHING BEHIND YOU CAN BE
  • 00:42:57.250 --> 00:42:58.210
  • REDEEMED.
  • 00:42:58.210 --> 00:42:59.110
  • EVERYTHING IS PART OF YOUR
  • 00:42:59.110 --> 00:43:00.100
  • STORY.
  • 00:43:00.100 --> 00:43:03.000
  • I FEEL LIKE GOD WAS SAYING TO MY
  • 00:43:03.000 --> 00:43:05.240
  • HEART, SOME YEARS AGO, IT WAS
  • 00:43:05.240 --> 00:43:08.070
  • JUST GAME CHANGING TO ME WHEN I
  • 00:43:08.070 --> 00:43:10.210
  • WAS LAMENTING WHERE I HAD BEEN
  • 00:43:10.210 --> 00:43:12.100
  • AND ALL I HAVE BEEN THROUGH, HE
  • 00:43:12.100 --> 00:43:13.200
  • WANTED TO SAY TO ME, BETH, IF
  • 00:43:13.200 --> 00:43:16.140
  • YOU COULD HAVE WRITTEN YOUR OWN
  • 00:43:16.140 --> 00:43:17.220
  • STORY IT WOULD BE SO BORING.
  • 00:43:17.220 --> 00:43:19.060
  • NO ONE WOULD WANT TO READ IT.
  • 00:43:19.060 --> 00:43:20.210
  • SO WHAT, YOU HAVE HAD A LOT OF
  • 00:43:20.210 --> 00:43:23.100
  • DRAMA SO HAVE I.
  • 00:43:23.100 --> 00:43:24.150
  • YOU HAVE HAD A LOT OF CONFLICT,
  • 00:43:24.150 --> 00:43:25.280
  • SO YOU HAVE FAILED AT A LOT
  • 00:43:25.280 --> 00:43:27.090
  • THINGS, SO HAVE I.
  • 00:43:28.090 --> 00:43:31.090
  • IT BECOMES PART OF WHAT GOD USES
  • 00:43:31.230 --> 00:43:34.230
  • TO MAKE YOU RELATE ON THE OTHER
  • 00:43:34.230 --> 00:43:36.070
  • SIDE, TO GIVE YOU COMPASSION AND
  • 00:43:36.070 --> 00:43:37.120
  • TO GIVE YOU HUMILITY.
  • 00:43:38.010 --> 00:43:41.010
  • I LOVED WHAT I HEARD SOMEBODY
  • 00:43:41.010 --> 00:43:42.160
  • SAY A FEW DAYS AGO THAT KNOWING
  • 00:43:42.160 --> 00:43:45.150
  • JESUS IS PART OF ALSO WHAT MAKES
  • 00:43:45.180 --> 00:43:48.180
  • US MORE HUMAN WITH ONE ANOTHER
  • 00:43:48.200 --> 00:43:51.200
  • IN THE WAY WE TREAT ONE ANOTHER
  • 00:43:53.170 --> 00:43:56.170
  • IN THE WAY THEY HAVE BEEN
  • 00:43:56.170 --> 00:43:57.060
  • THROUGH.
  • 00:43:57.060 --> 00:43:59.040
  • THAT HOLINESS DOES SOMETHING FOR
  • 00:43:59.040 --> 00:43:59.260
  • OUR HUMANITY.
  • 00:43:59.260 --> 00:44:01.160
  • I CAN LOOK AT YOU AND SAY, MAN,
  • 00:44:01.160 --> 00:44:02.130
  • I'VE BEEN, THERE.
  • 00:44:02.130 --> 00:44:03.120
  • YOU CAN LOOK AT ME AND SAY MAN,
  • 00:44:03.120 --> 00:44:04.110
  • I'VE BEEN HERE.
  • 00:44:04.110 --> 00:44:05.290
  • THIS IS A FLAWED LIFE WE ARE
  • 00:44:05.290 --> 00:44:07.050
  • LIVING HERE.
  • 00:44:07.050 --> 00:44:08.120
  • GOD IS SO FAITHFUL.
  • 00:44:08.120 --> 00:44:10.050
  • I WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU TODAY.
  • 00:44:10.050 --> 00:44:11.290
  • YOU HAVE A BEAUTIFUL STORY.
  • 00:44:11.290 --> 00:44:14.070
  • YOU ARE TELLING ME NO, I BET I
  • 00:44:14.070 --> 00:44:17.030
  • HAVE SOME IDEA.
  • 00:44:17.030 --> 00:44:19.050
  • I AM NOT YOUNG.
  • 00:44:19.050 --> 00:44:21.150
  • AND I HAVE LIVED A LOT OF LIFE
  • 00:44:21.190 --> 00:44:24.190
  • AND I HAVE ALSO SEEN A LOT OF
  • 00:44:24.190 --> 00:44:25.210
  • LIVES, OBSERVED A LOT OF LIVES,
  • 00:44:25.210 --> 00:44:26.240
  • HEARD A LOT OF STORIES.
  • 00:44:26.240 --> 00:44:29.210
  • GOD MEANS TO WRITE A BEAUTIFUL
  • 00:44:29.210 --> 00:44:30.120
  • ONE WITH YOURS.
  • 00:44:30.120 --> 00:44:31.280
  • HE WEAVES THEM TOGETHER.
  • 00:44:31.280 --> 00:44:33.150
  • I LOVE THIS.
  • 00:44:33.150 --> 00:44:35.000
  • HE HAS TAKEN A COUPLE THINGS, HE
  • 00:44:35.070 --> 00:44:38.070
  • HAS TAKEN YOUR STORY AND HIS
  • 00:44:38.070 --> 00:44:39.200
  • STORY AND MAKING IT BOTH OF YOUR
  • 00:44:39.200 --> 00:44:40.290
  • STORIES.
  • 00:44:40.290 --> 00:44:42.130
  • BLENDING THAT TOGETHER.
  • 00:44:42.130 --> 00:44:45.030
  • WHEN HE PUTS HIS STORY INTO YOUR
  • 00:44:45.030 --> 00:44:46.090
  • STORY, EVERYTHING CHANGES.
  • 00:44:46.090 --> 00:44:47.000
  • EVERYTHING CHANGES.
  • 00:44:47.000 --> 00:44:49.090
  • I DO WANT TO PRAY OVER-- I WANT
  • 00:44:49.090 --> 00:44:50.120
  • YOU TO PRAY WITH ME.
  • 00:44:50.120 --> 00:44:51.270
  • LEAN INTO THE SCREEN.
  • 00:44:51.270 --> 00:44:54.100
  • I WANT YOU TO NOD WITH ME, IF
  • 00:44:54.100 --> 00:44:56.210
  • YOU AGREE WITH ME, I WANT YOU TO
  • 00:44:56.210 --> 00:44:58.070
  • SAY IT OUT LOUD.
  • 00:44:58.070 --> 00:45:00.230
  • FATHER, I LIFT UP EVERY SINGLE
  • 00:45:00.230 --> 00:45:03.190
  • PERSON ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT
  • 00:45:03.190 --> 00:45:04.110
  • SCREEN.
  • 00:45:04.110 --> 00:45:05.190
  • I THANK YOU, GOD, THAT NOTHING
  • 00:45:05.190 --> 00:45:06.290
  • IS A SURPRISE TO YOU.
  • 00:45:06.290 --> 00:45:09.050
  • EVERYTHING THEY HAVE BEEN
  • 00:45:09.050 --> 00:45:11.000
  • THROUGH, YOU HAVE BEEN THERE.
  • 00:45:11.000 --> 00:45:12.020
  • YOU KNOW, LORD, YOU EVEN KNOW
  • 00:45:12.020 --> 00:45:13.260
  • THE MOTIVATIONS, WHAT WAS
  • 00:45:14.230 --> 00:45:17.230
  • UNDERNEATH, WHAT WAS IN THE
  • 00:45:17.230 --> 00:45:19.060
  • HEART, FATHER, WAY BELOW THE
  • 00:45:19.060 --> 00:45:21.080
  • SIN, THE NEED THAT WAS ROOTED
  • 00:45:21.080 --> 00:45:22.130
  • BENEATH IT.
  • 00:45:22.130 --> 00:45:23.270
  • YOU KNOW ALL OF THAT, FATHER,
  • 00:45:23.270 --> 00:45:26.020
  • YOU KNOW THE LOSTNESS, YOU KNOW
  • 00:45:26.020 --> 00:45:28.020
  • THE HARD-HEARTEDNESS, WHAT MADE
  • 00:45:28.020 --> 00:45:30.190
  • THEM COLD.
  • 00:45:30.190 --> 00:45:33.120
  • YOU KNOW, FATHER, SOME OF THEM
  • 00:45:33.120 --> 00:45:34.160
  • FEEL LIKE THERE HAS BEEN SUCH
  • 00:45:34.160 --> 00:45:36.020
  • GENERATIONAL BROKENNESS, THERE
  • 00:45:36.020 --> 00:45:37.220
  • IS NO WAY OUT.
  • 00:45:37.220 --> 00:45:39.270
  • THERE IS NO WAY OUT.
  • 00:45:39.270 --> 00:45:41.110
  • FATHER, YOU SPEAK TRUTH OVER
  • 00:45:41.110 --> 00:45:42.160
  • THEM TODAY.
  • 00:45:42.160 --> 00:45:44.040
  • YOU LOVE THEM SO MUCH AND
  • 00:45:44.040 --> 00:45:45.260
  • FATHER, THAT YOU BATHE US WITH
  • 00:45:45.260 --> 00:45:47.090
  • YOUR LIGHT.
  • 00:45:47.180 --> 00:45:50.180
  • THAT IN YOUR LOVE, LORD,
  • 00:45:50.180 --> 00:45:52.010
  • EVERYTHING CHANGES.
  • 00:45:52.130 --> 00:45:55.130
  • OUR STORY IS NOT IN THE DARK, IT
  • 00:45:55.130 --> 00:45:56.180
  • IS OUT HERE IN THE LIGHT.
  • 00:45:56.180 --> 00:45:58.050
  • IT MIXES WITH YOUR STORY,
  • 00:45:58.050 --> 00:45:59.080
  • FATHER, THERE IS NOT ENOUGH WE
  • 00:45:59.080 --> 00:46:01.270
  • CAN DO THAT WAS UNCLEAN TO MAKE
  • 00:46:01.270 --> 00:46:03.010
  • YOU UNCLEAN, LORD.
  • 00:46:03.010 --> 00:46:05.080
  • YOU BRING US INTO YOUR STORY AND
  • 00:46:05.080 --> 00:46:06.120
  • YOU COME INTO OURS.
  • 00:46:06.120 --> 00:46:08.280
  • THAT IS THE ESSENCE OF
  • 00:46:08.280 --> 00:46:10.010
  • REDEMPTION.
  • 00:46:10.010 --> 00:46:11.180
  • I PRAY, FATHER, YOU MAKE YOUR
  • 00:46:11.180 --> 00:46:13.220
  • CLOSENESS SO KNOWN TO THEM,
  • 00:46:13.220 --> 00:46:15.100
  • LORD, AND SO OBVIOUS TO THEM IN
  • 00:46:15.100 --> 00:46:17.030
  • THE GREAT AND BEAUTIFUL AND
  • 00:46:17.030 --> 00:46:18.260
  • SAVING NAME OF JESUS, AMEN.
  • 00:46:18.260 --> 00:46:20.180
  • - AMEN.
  • 00:46:20.180 --> 00:46:21.180
  • WOW!
  • 00:46:21.180 --> 00:46:22.270
  • WOW! WOW! WOW!
  • 00:46:22.270 --> 00:46:24.220
  • - BEAUTIFUL.
  • 00:46:24.220 --> 00:46:25.250
  • - THE LIVING EMOJI, BETH MOORE
  • 00:46:25.250 --> 00:46:28.000
  • IS OUR GUEST TODAY.
  • 00:46:28.000 --> 00:46:30.000
  • WE HAVE BEEN SITTING WITH HER,
  • 00:46:30.000 --> 00:46:31.090
  • TALKING ABOUT STORY.
  • 00:46:31.170 --> 00:46:34.170
  • AND NOW WE ARE INCLUDING YOUR
  • 00:46:34.170 --> 00:46:37.030
  • STORY, THE HISTORY OF YOUR LIFE.
  • 00:46:37.030 --> 00:46:39.190
  • JESUS MAKES SUCH A DIFFERENCE IN
  • 00:46:39.190 --> 00:46:40.180
  • YOUR LIFE.
  • 00:46:40.190 --> 00:46:43.190
  • NOW, WHAT WE HAVE AND WHAT WE
  • 00:46:43.190 --> 00:46:45.220
  • WANT TO DO, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE
  • 00:46:45.220 --> 00:46:48.100
  • YOU UNDERSTAND THIS IS NOT A
  • 00:46:48.100 --> 00:46:49.060
  • BIBLE STUDY.
  • 00:46:49.060 --> 00:46:51.210
  • THIS SAY NOVEL.
  • 00:46:51.210 --> 00:46:53.220
  • - COULD YOU WRITE A BIBLE STUDY
  • 00:46:53.220 --> 00:46:54.160
  • OFF OF IT?
  • 00:46:54.160 --> 00:46:56.150
  • - I DON'T THINK SO, LAURIE.
  • 00:46:57.060 --> 00:47:00.080
  • ONE OF THE MAIN CHARACTERS IS
  • 00:47:00.080 --> 00:47:02.110
  • DISCIPLED A LITTLE BIT.
  • 00:47:03.200 --> 00:47:06.200
  • YOU WILL SAY I RECOGNIZE THAT.
  • 00:47:06.200 --> 00:47:09.190
  • I KNOW WHAT IS HAPPENING THERE.
  • 00:47:09.190 --> 00:47:12.020
  • - OKAY, BETH MOORE, "NEW YORK
  • 00:47:12.020 --> 00:47:13.290
  • TIMES" BEST-SELLING AUTHOR THE
  • 00:47:13.290 --> 00:47:15.270
  • UNDOING OF SAINT SILVANUS.
  • 00:47:16.270 --> 00:47:19.270
  • A ONE HUNDRED YEAR OLD CHURCH.
  • 00:47:19.270 --> 00:47:21.250
  • WE HAVE THIS BOOK AVAILABLE BY
  • 00:47:21.260 --> 00:47:24.260
  • DIALING THE 800 NUMBER.
  • 00:47:24.260 --> 00:47:25.280
  • I THINK IT IS AN 800 NUMBER.
  • 00:47:25.280 --> 00:47:27.040
  • I CAN'T READ IT ON THE SCREEN.
  • 00:47:27.040 --> 00:47:29.220
  • ON THE SCREEN THE INFORMATION IS
  • 00:47:29.220 --> 00:47:30.160
  • THERE.
  • 00:47:30.160 --> 00:47:33.110
  • TYNDALE, YOUR PUBLISHER AND TBN
  • 00:47:33.190 --> 00:47:36.190
  • AND BETH MOORE AND LIVING WAY,
  • 00:47:36.190 --> 00:47:38.000
  • LIVING PROOF MINISTRIES, ARE ALL
  • 00:47:40.120 --> 00:47:43.120
  • COORDINATED TO MAKE SURE YOU
  • 00:47:43.120 --> 00:47:46.080
  • HAVE THE ABILITY TO HAVE THIS
  • 00:47:46.080 --> 00:47:47.060
  • RIGHT HERE, RIGHT NOW.
  • 00:47:47.060 --> 00:47:48.140
  • AND WE LOVE THAT.
  • 00:47:48.140 --> 00:47:49.050
  • WE LOVE THAT.
  • 00:47:49.050 --> 00:47:51.070
  • WE CARE ABOUT THE CONTENT THAT
  • 00:47:51.110 --> 00:47:54.110
  • WE ARE MAKING AVAILABLE TO YOU
  • 00:47:54.110 --> 00:47:55.190
  • AND TODAY IS ONE OF THE BEST
  • 00:47:55.190 --> 00:47:56.150
  • DAYS.
  • 00:47:56.150 --> 00:47:58.220
  • QUESTION?
  • 00:47:58.220 --> 00:48:01.170
  • - I'M THINKING, EVERYONE KNOWS
  • 00:48:01.170 --> 00:48:03.120
  • SOMEONE WHO LOVES A GOOD NOVEL.
  • 00:48:03.120 --> 00:48:04.080
  • - I HOPE SO.
  • 00:48:04.170 --> 00:48:07.170
  • I HAVE TO TELL YOU ONE THING
  • 00:48:07.170 --> 00:48:09.230
  • BEFORE WE LET THE PROGRAM END
  • 00:48:09.230 --> 00:48:12.150
  • THIS IS MY FAVORITE THING THAT
  • 00:48:12.150 --> 00:48:13.120
  • HAPPENED SO FAR.
  • 00:48:13.120 --> 00:48:14.160
  • I HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE ASK ME,
  • 00:48:14.160 --> 00:48:16.020
  • WHO IS IT FOR?
  • 00:48:16.020 --> 00:48:17.160
  • WHO IS YOUR READER?
  • 00:48:17.160 --> 00:48:19.260
  • I HOPE ANYONE THAT LIKES STORY.
  • 00:48:19.260 --> 00:48:21.210
  • EVEN IF YOU DON'T.
  • 00:48:21.210 --> 00:48:23.040
  • EVEN IF YOU DON'T LIKE STORY
  • 00:48:23.040 --> 00:48:25.290
  • GIVE IT A TRY AND SEE WHAT YOU
  • 00:48:25.290 --> 00:48:26.270
  • THINK.
  • 00:48:26.270 --> 00:48:29.040
  • I PRAY IT WOULD ENCOURAGE
  • 00:48:29.040 --> 00:48:31.140
  • SOMEBODY WHO IS A SEASONED
  • 00:48:31.140 --> 00:48:33.160
  • BELIEVER AND ENCOURAGE SOMEONE
  • 00:48:33.160 --> 00:48:34.260
  • WHO FEELS I AM A BELIEVER.
  • 00:48:34.260 --> 00:48:36.040
  • LOOK AT THE MESS MY LIFE IS IN
  • 00:48:36.040 --> 00:48:37.230
  • YOU WILL SEE THAT IN THERE TOO.
  • 00:48:37.230 --> 00:48:40.150
  • I HOPE AT ANY POINT, AT ANY
  • 00:48:40.150 --> 00:48:42.280
  • LEVEL OF THEIR FAITH AND THEIR
  • 00:48:42.280 --> 00:48:45.160
  • JOURNEY THAT THEY BE ENCOURAGED.
  • 00:48:45.160 --> 00:48:47.270
  • LET ME TELL YOU WHAT HAPPENED A
  • 00:48:47.270 --> 00:48:50.050
  • FEW DAYS AGO.
  • 00:48:50.050 --> 00:48:52.070
  • I TOOK A SCREENSHOT AND SENT IT
  • 00:48:52.070 --> 00:48:54.060
  • OFF TO MY FRIEND AT TYNDALE THAT
  • 00:48:54.060 --> 00:48:56.010
  • I WORKED WITH SO MUCH BECAUSE
  • 00:48:56.010 --> 00:48:57.150
  • THIS MADE IT FOR US.
  • 00:48:57.150 --> 00:48:59.200
  • I HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH
  • 00:48:59.250 --> 00:49:02.270
  • SOMEONE WHO IS OUT OF THE FAITH
  • 00:49:02.270 --> 00:49:05.160
  • ENTIRELY, IN FACT, REALLY IS
  • 00:49:05.160 --> 00:49:07.220
  • VERY RESISTANT TO IT, NOT JUST
  • 00:49:07.220 --> 00:49:10.190
  • OBLIVIOUS TO IT, DOES NOT WANT
  • 00:49:10.190 --> 00:49:11.280
  • ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT.
  • 00:49:11.280 --> 00:49:14.280
  • BUT JUST DECIDED, SHE LOVES ME
  • 00:49:14.280 --> 00:49:17.170
  • AND DECIDED, WELL, SHE HAS NEVER
  • 00:49:17.170 --> 00:49:20.040
  • BEEN ABLE TO READ ANY OF THE
  • 00:49:20.040 --> 00:49:21.120
  • REST OF MY BOOKS BECAUSE SHE
  • 00:49:21.120 --> 00:49:22.190
  • OBJECTED TO THEM.
  • 00:49:22.190 --> 00:49:24.130
  • SHE DID NOT SHARE-- I UNDERSTOOD
  • 00:49:24.130 --> 00:49:25.120
  • THAT.
  • 00:49:25.120 --> 00:49:27.140
  • THIS ONE IS A NOVEL.
  • 00:49:27.140 --> 00:49:30.050
  • FOR THE FIRST TIME I REALLY CAN
  • 00:49:30.050 --> 00:49:32.130
  • READ THIS WOMAN'S BOOK AND SHE
  • 00:49:32.130 --> 00:49:35.020
  • WROTE ME AND SAID I LAUGHED AND
  • 00:49:35.020 --> 00:49:35.280
  • I CRIED.
  • 00:49:35.280 --> 00:49:37.250
  • SHE READ EVERY LINE OF IT FROM
  • 00:49:37.250 --> 00:49:39.250
  • BEGINNING TO END AND LET ME TELL
  • 00:49:39.250 --> 00:49:41.160
  • YOU, THE GOSPEL IS AS CLEAR AS A
  • 00:49:41.160 --> 00:49:43.130
  • BELL IN THAT BOOK.
  • 00:49:44.080 --> 00:49:47.080
  • I WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO TELL
  • 00:49:47.080 --> 00:49:49.020
  • YOU-- I HAVE CHILL BUMPS ALL
  • 00:49:49.020 --> 00:49:51.110
  • OVER ME TELLING YOU THAT.
  • 00:49:51.110 --> 00:49:53.000
  • IT WAS EVERYTHING TO US.
  • 00:49:53.000 --> 00:49:55.290
  • GOD CALLED ME SEVERAL YEARS AGO,
  • 00:49:55.290 --> 00:49:58.150
  • PUT IT DEEPLY ON MY HEART THAT I
  • 00:49:58.150 --> 00:50:00.120
  • WAS TO SPEND THIS SEASON OF MY
  • 00:50:00.120 --> 00:50:01.120
  • MINISTRY LIFE.
  • 00:50:01.120 --> 00:50:03.070
  • I'M 35 YEARS INTO MINISTRY AND
  • 00:50:03.070 --> 00:50:04.100
  • GOD BEGAN TO SAY TO ME WE ARE
  • 00:50:04.100 --> 00:50:06.280
  • GOING TO START SOWING IN OTHER
  • 00:50:06.280 --> 00:50:08.250
  • FIELDS, BE READY, STARTED
  • 00:50:08.250 --> 00:50:10.150
  • BEARING THAT ON MY HEART.
  • 00:50:11.180 --> 00:50:14.180
  • SO IT WAS EVERYTHING BECAME YES,
  • 00:50:14.180 --> 00:50:15.240
  • YES, IF IT WAS A DIFFERENT
  • 00:50:15.240 --> 00:50:16.260
  • MEDIUM, IF I GOT THE MESSAGE
  • 00:50:16.260 --> 00:50:18.180
  • WITHOUT COMPROMISING IT.
  • 00:50:18.180 --> 00:50:20.020
  • IT WAS GOING TO BE A YES.
  • 00:50:20.200 --> 00:50:23.200
  • AND THAT PERSON READ EVERY LINE
  • 00:50:23.200 --> 00:50:25.220
  • OF IT BECAUSE SHE WOULD NOT DO A
  • 00:50:25.220 --> 00:50:27.270
  • BIBLE STUDY, DID NOT TOUCH ANY
  • 00:50:27.270 --> 00:50:29.280
  • ONE OF MY NONFICTION BOOKS BUT
  • 00:50:29.280 --> 00:50:31.200
  • SHE READ THAT FROM COVER TO
  • 00:50:31.200 --> 00:50:32.140
  • COVER.
  • 00:50:32.140 --> 00:50:33.150
  • - THERE YOU GO.
  • 00:50:33.150 --> 00:50:34.160
  • - JESUS SAID IN MATTHEW 13 TO
  • 00:50:34.160 --> 00:50:36.080
  • DISCIPLES.
  • 00:50:36.080 --> 00:50:38.190
  • I TELL STORIES TO CREATE
  • 00:50:38.200 --> 00:50:41.200
  • READINESS, TO NUDGE PEOPLE
  • 00:50:41.200 --> 00:50:43.250
  • TOWARDS RECEPTIVE INSIGHT IN THE
  • 00:50:43.250 --> 00:50:44.180
  • KINGDOM OF GOD.
  • 00:50:44.180 --> 00:50:45.170
  • THAT IS WHAT THIS STORY CAN DO.
  • 00:50:45.170 --> 00:50:47.010
  • OBVIOUSLY IT WORKED.
  • 00:50:47.010 --> 00:50:49.200
  • YOU HAVE THIS OUT THERE.
  • 00:50:49.200 --> 00:50:51.110
  • THIS BOOK IS AVAILABLE BY
  • 00:50:51.110 --> 00:50:52.210
  • DIALING THE NUMBER ON YOUR
  • 00:50:52.210 --> 00:50:53.280
  • SCREEN.
  • 00:50:53.280 --> 00:50:55.230
  • OKAY, IN THE LAST COUPLE MINUTES
  • 00:50:55.230 --> 00:50:56.270
  • I WANT TO CIRCLE BACK TO THE
  • 00:50:56.270 --> 00:50:57.290
  • VERY BEGINNING.
  • 00:50:57.290 --> 00:50:59.190
  • - DO IT.
  • 00:50:59.190 --> 00:51:01.030
  • - YOU ARE A STORY GIRL.
  • 00:51:01.030 --> 00:51:02.220
  • YOU GREW UP IN A STORY
  • 00:51:02.220 --> 00:51:04.230
  • HOUSEHOLDS.
  • 00:51:04.230 --> 00:51:07.040
  • YOUR DADDY RAN MOVIE THEATERS,
  • 00:51:07.040 --> 00:51:08.220
  • YOU HAD A DRIVE-IN, FOR
  • 00:51:08.220 --> 00:51:10.130
  • GOODNESS' SAKES.
  • 00:51:10.130 --> 00:51:11.260
  • - YES.
  • 00:51:11.260 --> 00:51:13.000
  • - YOU SERVED POPCORN AND COKES.
  • 00:51:14.090 --> 00:51:17.090
  • THIS IS FROM THE YOUNGEST OF
  • 00:51:17.090 --> 00:51:19.060
  • MEMORY STORY WAS INVOLVED IN
  • 00:51:19.060 --> 00:51:22.030
  • YOUR LIFE.
  • 00:51:22.030 --> 00:51:23.070
  • - VERY MUCH.
  • 00:51:23.070 --> 00:51:25.200
  • - SO THIS IN SOME WAY HAS TO
  • 00:51:25.200 --> 00:51:27.290
  • FEEL LIKE SOME KIND OF A FULL
  • 00:51:27.290 --> 00:51:30.190
  • CIRCLE MOMENT FOR YOU.
  • 00:51:30.190 --> 00:51:31.120
  • - ABSOLUTELY.
  • 00:51:33.150 --> 00:51:36.150
  • - COME ON NOW.
  • 00:51:36.150 --> 00:51:37.070
  • - ABSOLUTELY.
  • 00:51:37.070 --> 00:51:38.060
  • I COME FROM A FAMILY OF
  • 00:51:38.060 --> 00:51:39.140
  • MUSICIANS AND ARTISTS.
  • 00:51:39.140 --> 00:51:40.290
  • VERY ARTSY FAMILY.
  • 00:51:40.290 --> 00:51:41.200
  • MY HUSBAND'S FAMILY IS MUCH MORE
  • 00:51:41.200 --> 00:51:43.240
  • ATHLETIC AND MY FAMILY IS ON THE
  • 00:51:44.280 --> 00:51:47.280
  • ARTSY SIDE OF IT.
  • 00:51:49.010 --> 00:51:52.010
  • I PLANTED MYSELF HERE IN THE
  • 00:51:52.010 --> 00:51:53.260
  • BIBLE STUDY WORLD AND CURRICULUM
  • 00:51:53.260 --> 00:51:56.090
  • WORLD AND NONFICTION WORLD, BUT
  • 00:51:56.090 --> 00:51:58.290
  • IN A LOT OF WAYS GOT TO GO OVER
  • 00:51:59.010 --> 00:52:02.030
  • THERE WITH WHAT MY FAMILY, WITH
  • 00:52:03.080 --> 00:52:06.080
  • ALL THAT FAITH BRINGS INTO IT.
  • 00:52:06.080 --> 00:52:08.020
  • I GOT TO SORT OF EXERCISE THAT
  • 00:52:08.220 --> 00:52:11.220
  • PART OF MYSELF, THAT TRULY WAS
  • 00:52:11.220 --> 00:52:14.060
  • IN MY FAMILY OF ORIGIN.
  • 00:52:14.060 --> 00:52:15.220
  • - DID YOU EVER GET THE CLASSIC,
  • 00:52:17.040 --> 00:52:20.040
  • THERE WAS A CLASSIC MOVIE THAT
  • 00:52:20.040 --> 00:52:21.180
  • MY FAMILY THOUGHT WAS FUNNY
  • 00:52:21.180 --> 00:52:22.290
  • CALLED "THROW MAMA FROM THE
  • 00:52:22.290 --> 00:52:24.010
  • TRAIN".
  • 00:52:24.010 --> 00:52:25.140
  • WHERE YOU HAD "THROW MAMA FROM
  • 00:52:25.140 --> 00:52:27.040
  • THE TRAIN."
  • 00:52:27.040 --> 00:52:28.280
  • THE NIGHT WAS, AND YOU DREW A
  • 00:52:28.280 --> 00:52:30.290
  • BLANK AND YOU TEAR OUT THE PAPER
  • 00:52:30.290 --> 00:52:33.130
  • AND CRUMPLE IT AND THROW IT.
  • 00:52:33.130 --> 00:52:35.190
  • OR ARE YOU JUST FLOWING THROUGH
  • 00:52:35.190 --> 00:52:37.080
  • THIS THING?
  • 00:52:37.080 --> 00:52:39.110
  • - I LOVE TALKING ABOUT THIS.
  • 00:52:39.110 --> 00:52:41.050
  • THE PROCESS IS LIKE NOTHING ELSE
  • 00:52:41.130 --> 00:52:44.130
  • I HAVE EVER DONE.
  • 00:52:44.130 --> 00:52:47.030
  • MOST OF THE TIME BY THE TIME I
  • 00:52:47.030 --> 00:52:48.250
  • DID SIT DOWN I WAS WRITING BIBLE
  • 00:52:48.250 --> 00:52:50.180
  • STUDIES ON THE OTHER SIDE OF IT
  • 00:52:50.180 --> 00:52:51.110
  • THAT IS WHAT I WAS DOING ON MY
  • 00:52:51.110 --> 00:52:52.270
  • REAL JOB.
  • 00:52:52.270 --> 00:52:54.190
  • IT WAS ALMOST LIKE A HOBBY UNTIL
  • 00:52:55.120 --> 00:52:58.120
  • THE END UNTIL I REALIZED IF YOU
  • 00:52:58.120 --> 00:53:00.190
  • DON'T GIVE THEM A DUE DATE YOU
  • 00:53:00.190 --> 00:53:02.030
  • WILL NOT FINISH IT.
  • 00:53:02.030 --> 00:53:04.060
  • NOW IT IS GETTING SERIOUS.
  • 00:53:04.290 --> 00:53:07.290
  • - CRUNCH TIME.
  • 00:53:07.290 --> 00:53:10.060
  • - CRUNCH TIME. BUT FOR THOSE
  • 00:53:11.270 --> 00:53:14.270
  • TIMES WHAT I WOULD DO, MATT AND
  • 00:53:14.270 --> 00:53:15.260
  • LAURIE, I WOULD BE LIKE DRIVING
  • 00:53:15.260 --> 00:53:17.090
  • TO WORK AND THINKING GOING FOR A
  • 00:53:17.090 --> 00:53:18.270
  • WALK THINKING, THINKING.
  • 00:53:18.270 --> 00:53:20.090
  • BY THE TIME I SAT DOWN I WAS
  • 00:53:20.090 --> 00:53:23.060
  • BEGINNING TO-- IT WAS SPINNING.
  • 00:53:23.090 --> 00:53:26.090
  • LET ME TELL YOU ONE OF THE
  • 00:53:26.090 --> 00:53:28.010
  • NEATEST THINGS I CAN TELL YOU
  • 00:53:28.010 --> 00:53:30.110
  • WHERE I WAS WALKING IN THE
  • 00:53:30.110 --> 00:53:31.200
  • COUNTRY WHEN IT HAPPENED, I CAN
  • 00:53:31.200 --> 00:53:34.130
  • FEEL EMOTION WELLING IN MY
  • 00:53:34.130 --> 00:53:37.130
  • THROAT THINKING ABOUT IT.
  • 00:53:37.130 --> 00:53:38.250
  • I KNEW THE END.
  • 00:53:39.220 --> 00:53:42.220
  • I WAS ABOUT-- I WAS ONLY 4
  • 00:53:42.220 --> 00:53:44.170
  • CHAPTERS FROM BEING DONE.
  • 00:53:44.170 --> 00:53:47.150
  • I DID NOT KNOW YET EXACTLY HOW
  • 00:53:47.150 --> 00:53:49.270
  • IT WAS GOING TO END AND ON THAT
  • 00:53:49.270 --> 00:53:51.160
  • WALK, I THOUGHT, THAT'S IT.
  • 00:53:51.160 --> 00:53:52.230
  • IT CAME TO ME EXACTLY HOW I
  • 00:53:52.230 --> 00:53:55.200
  • WANTED TO BRING IT TO A FINISH.
  • 00:53:55.200 --> 00:53:57.130
  • IN THAT MOMENT I KNEW THAT BOOK
  • 00:53:57.130 --> 00:53:59.070
  • IS GOING TO BE REAL.
  • 00:53:59.070 --> 00:54:01.130
  • I DON'T KNOW IF IT WILL EVER BE
  • 00:54:01.130 --> 00:54:02.120
  • ON THE SHELF, BUT THAT BABY IT
  • 00:54:02.120 --> 00:54:03.290
  • WILL GET FINISHED.
  • 00:54:04.220 --> 00:54:07.220
  • - THAT IS AWESOME.
  • 00:54:07.220 --> 00:54:08.140
  • - IT WAS THE CRAZIEST FEELING.
  • 00:54:08.140 --> 00:54:09.120
  • - WE ARE TALKING TO BETH MOORE.
  • 00:54:09.120 --> 00:54:11.040
  • WE KNOW HER FROM LIFEWAY.
  • 00:54:11.040 --> 00:54:12.280
  • IF YOU WALKED INTO A LIFEWAY
  • 00:54:12.280 --> 00:54:15.090
  • STORE YOU SAW 750 PICTURES OF
  • 00:54:15.090 --> 00:54:16.000
  • HER.
  • 00:54:16.000 --> 00:54:17.220
  • SOME OF THEM LARGER THAN LIFE.
  • 00:54:18.010 --> 00:54:21.010
  • THE ONE I LOVE IS 900-FOOT TALL
  • 00:54:21.010 --> 00:54:22.180
  • ONE THAT.
  • 00:54:22.180 --> 00:54:24.260
  • IS AN AWESOME PICTURE OF YOU.
  • 00:54:24.260 --> 00:54:26.200
  • - HE IS TEASING.
  • 00:54:26.200 --> 00:54:28.090
  • - "THE UNDOING OF SAINT
  • 00:54:28.090 --> 00:54:29.060
  • SILVANUS" IS THE NOVEL.
  • 00:54:29.060 --> 00:54:31.270
  • GO BACK INTO YOUR CHILDHOOD AND
  • 00:54:31.270 --> 00:54:33.180
  • WHAT IS A QUOTE FROM A MOVIE
  • 00:54:34.220 --> 00:54:37.220
  • THAT YOU LIKE.
  • 00:54:37.220 --> 00:54:38.170
  • JUST START RATTLING OFF WHEN YOU
  • 00:54:38.170 --> 00:54:39.230
  • THINK OF MOVIES "STEEL
  • 00:54:41.230 --> 00:54:44.230
  • MAGNOLIAS."
  • 00:54:44.230 --> 00:54:46.010
  • - I WAS A YOUNG WOMAN AT THIS
  • 00:54:46.010 --> 00:54:47.070
  • TIME.
  • 00:54:47.070 --> 00:54:50.000
  • THERE IS A WONDERFUL LINE
  • 00:54:50.000 --> 00:54:51.100
  • WHERE SHELBY SAYS IN "STEEL
  • 00:54:51.100 --> 00:54:52.110
  • MAGNOLIAS" TO CLAIREE, THERE ARE
  • 00:54:52.110 --> 00:54:55.050
  • STILL GOOD TIMES TO BE HAD, MISS
  • 00:54:55.050 --> 00:54:56.200
  • CLAIREE.
  • 00:54:56.200 --> 00:54:59.200
  • I QUOTE THAT LINE, YOU TWO, OVER
  • 00:54:59.200 --> 00:55:02.050
  • AND OVER AND OVER TO MY GIRLS
  • 00:55:02.050 --> 00:55:04.190
  • WHEN SOMETHING REALLY HARD
  • 00:55:04.190 --> 00:55:06.080
  • HAPPENS AND WE GO THROUGH
  • 00:55:06.080 --> 00:55:07.150
  • SOMETHING VERY DIFFICULT, I WILL
  • 00:55:07.150 --> 00:55:09.110
  • STILL PULL LINES OUT OF A MOVIE.
  • 00:55:09.110 --> 00:55:11.170
  • - WHAT IS YOUR FAVORITE FROM
  • 00:55:11.170 --> 00:55:12.100
  • THAT MOVIE?
  • 00:55:12.100 --> 00:55:13.030
  • - I HAVE A COUPLE.
  • 00:55:13.030 --> 00:55:14.250
  • I WOULD RATHER STEP ON MY LIPS
  • 00:55:14.250 --> 00:55:16.020
  • THAN SAY ANYTHING BAD ABOUT YOU.
  • 00:55:16.020 --> 00:55:18.260
  • - COME SIT BY ME.
  • 00:55:18.260 --> 00:55:20.290
  • I HAVE BEEN IN BAD MOOD FOR 40
  • 00:55:21.070 --> 00:55:24.070
  • YEARS.
  • 00:55:24.070 --> 00:55:25.080
  • CLASSIC.
  • 00:55:25.080 --> 00:55:27.210
  • - I DO LOVE SHELBY'S WHERE SHE
  • 00:55:27.210 --> 00:55:28.260
  • SAID, "MAMA, I WOULD RATHER HAVE
  • 00:55:28.260 --> 00:55:30.120
  • 30 MINUTES OF WONDERFUL THAN A
  • 00:55:30.280 --> 00:55:33.280
  • LIFETIME NOTHING SPECIAL."
  • 00:55:33.280 --> 00:55:36.270
  • - EXACTLY RIGHT.
  • 00:55:36.270 --> 00:55:37.220
  • IT STICKS WITH YOU.
  • 00:55:37.220 --> 00:55:39.000
  • - "THROW MAMA FROM THE TRAIN."
  • 00:55:39.000 --> 00:55:40.020
  • - "IRWIN LOVES HIS MOTHER."
  • 00:55:40.020 --> 00:55:41.290
  • "IRWIN LOVES HIS MOTHER."
  • 00:55:44.040 --> 00:55:47.040
  • - JAN AND MATT WOULD SAY THAT
  • 00:55:47.040 --> 00:55:48.090
  • BACK AND FORTH TO EACH OTHER.
  • 00:55:48.090 --> 00:55:50.270
  • - I DREAMED LOUIS ARMSTRONG WAS
  • 00:55:50.270 --> 00:55:51.240
  • TRYING TO KILL ME.
  • 00:55:52.210 --> 00:55:55.210
  • - WE WILL COME UP WITH
  • 00:55:55.210 --> 00:55:56.230
  • "CITY SLICKERS" NEXT.
  • 00:55:56.230 --> 00:55:57.150
  • I FEEL IT.
  • 00:55:57.150 --> 00:55:59.080
  • (LAUGHTER)
  • 00:55:59.080 --> 00:56:01.240
  • - THIS IS A NOVEL.
  • 00:56:02.020 --> 00:56:05.020
  • IT IS BETH MOORE OUT OF THE
  • 00:56:05.020 --> 00:56:07.010
  • BIBLE STUDY REALM.
  • 00:56:07.010 --> 00:56:09.190
  • LETTING THE PIGEONS LOOSE.
  • 00:56:09.190 --> 00:56:12.130
  • THIS IS A NOVEL.
  • 00:56:12.130 --> 00:56:14.040
  • "THE UNDOING OF SAINT SILVANUS".
  • 00:56:14.040 --> 00:56:16.280
  • ONE HUNDRED YEAR OLD STORY OF A
  • 00:56:16.280 --> 00:56:19.120
  • CHURCH AND THE CHURCH IS NOT
  • 00:56:19.120 --> 00:56:22.010
  • THIS BUILDING, IT IS THE PEOPLE
  • 00:56:22.010 --> 00:56:23.100
  • IN IT.
  • 00:56:23.100 --> 00:56:24.220
  • AND THEIR LIVES, THE DESTRUCTION
  • 00:56:24.220 --> 00:56:25.210
  • AND REBUILDING.
  • 00:56:25.210 --> 00:56:28.170
  • WE AT TBN ARE EXCITED ABOUT
  • 00:56:28.170 --> 00:56:29.120
  • THIS.
  • 00:56:29.120 --> 00:56:31.140
  • IT IS AVAILABLE BY DIALING THE
  • 00:56:31.140 --> 00:56:32.210
  • NUMBER ON THE SCREEN.
  • 00:56:33.000 --> 00:56:36.000
  • WE ARE EXCITED ABOUT IT.
  • 00:56:36.000 --> 00:56:37.230
  • YOU GET THE LAST 30 SECONDS,
  • 00:56:37.230 --> 00:56:39.160
  • WHAT DO YOU WANT TO SAY?
  • 00:56:39.160 --> 00:56:41.070
  • WHAT DO YOU WANT PEOPLE TO GET
  • 00:56:41.070 --> 00:56:42.210
  • WHEN THEY READ YOUR BOOK?
  • 00:56:42.210 --> 00:56:44.290
  • - I WANT THEM TO KNOW THEY DO
  • 00:56:44.290 --> 00:56:45.270
  • NOT HAVE THE ONE SITUATION GOD
  • 00:56:45.270 --> 00:56:47.100
  • CANNOT REDEEM.
  • 00:56:47.100 --> 00:56:49.100
  • I DON'T CARE HOW LONG IT HAS
  • 00:56:49.100 --> 00:56:50.240
  • BEEN IN YOUR FAMILY HISTORY, OR
  • 00:56:50.240 --> 00:56:52.220
  • HOW LONG IT SEEMS TO HAVE GONE
  • 00:56:52.220 --> 00:56:54.060
  • AWRY, OR HOW LOCKED IN YOU FEEL
  • 00:56:54.060 --> 00:56:55.220
  • TO IT.
  • 00:56:55.220 --> 00:56:57.060
  • THERE IS NOT A RELATIONSHIP ON
  • 00:56:57.060 --> 00:56:59.100
  • EARTH JESUS CANNOT RECONCILE.
  • 00:56:59.100 --> 00:57:01.040
  • THERE IS ALWAYS HOPE.
  • 00:57:01.040 --> 00:57:02.260
  • THERE IS ALWAYS BREATH IN THE
  • 00:57:02.260 --> 00:57:03.290
  • SPIRIT.
  • 00:57:03.290 --> 00:57:05.290
  • THERE IS ALWAYS JESUS AND HE IS
  • 00:57:05.290 --> 00:57:08.250
  • WAITING TO RESPOND.
  • 00:57:08.250 --> 00:57:10.080
  • - 800 NUMBER IS THE SCREEN.
  • 00:57:10.080 --> 00:57:12.260
  • "THE UNDOING OF SAINT SILVANUS"
  • 00:57:12.260 --> 00:57:14.250
  • A NOVEL BY BETH MOORE.
  • 00:57:14.250 --> 00:57:16.290
  • - LET'S READ IT TOGETHER.
  • 00:57:16.290 --> 00:57:18.000
  • - IS AVAILABLE.
  • 00:57:18.000 --> 00:57:18.240
  • GO TO THE 800 NUMBER.
  • 00:57:18.240 --> 00:57:20.210
  • IT IS YOURS FOR JUST CALLING IN.
  • 00:57:20.210 --> 00:57:22.220
  • THE OPERATORS KNOW WHAT TO SAY
  • 00:57:22.220 --> 00:57:24.160
  • AND DO.
  • 00:57:24.160 --> 00:57:25.150
  • AND BETH MOORE.
  • 00:57:25.150 --> 00:57:26.250
  • - I LOVE YOU.
  • 00:57:26.250 --> 00:57:27.150
  • - I LOVE YOU GUYS.
  • 00:57:27.150 --> 00:57:28.280
  • I CAN'T THANK YOU ENOUGH.
  • 00:57:28.280 --> 00:57:30.100
  • I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU ARE DOING
  • 00:57:30.100 --> 00:57:31.190
  • THIS.
  • 00:57:31.190 --> 00:57:32.120
  • - SEE YOU NEXT TIME.
  • 00:57:32.120 --> 00:57:33.140
  • - THANK YOU.
  • 00:57:35.200 --> 00:57:38.200
  • MUSIC
  • 00:57:38.200 --> 00:57:40.170
  • PRAISE
  • 00:57:40.170 --> 00:57:43.080
  • PRAISE THE LORD
  • 00:57:44.000 --> 00:57:47.000