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May 31, 2019
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The Eric Metaxas Radio Show

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  • "THE ERIC METAXAS RADIO SHOW"
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  • - ERIC METAXAS: I HAVE SOME
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  • WE TRIED TO GET SOME CELEBRITIES
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  • ON THE PROGRAM, AND WE FAILED.
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  • GWYNETH PALTROW, SHE DOESN'T
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  • LIKE MY POLITICS.
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  • AND THEY SAID, "DID YOU KNOW,
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  • ERIC-- YOU'RE IN THE BUSINESS OF
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  • WRITING KIDS' BOOKS-- DID YOU
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  • KNOW THAT THE SECOND LADY OF THE
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  • UNITED STATES AND HER DAUGHTER
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  • CHARLOTTE HAVE WRITTEN AND
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  • ILLUSTRATED A CHILDREN'S BOOK?
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  • DID YOU KNOW THAT?"
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  • I DID KNOW THAT, AND WE HAVE
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  • KAREN PENCE, CHARLOTTE PENCE,
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  • WELCOME BACK.
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  • - CHARLOTTE PENCE: THANKS FOR
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  • HAVING US.
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  • - ERIC: YOU'RE IN THE NEW
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  • STUDIO.
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  • DON'T SEEM SO EXCITED, OKAY?
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  • YOUR GENERATION IS WAY TOO
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  • EMOTIONAL.
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  • HONESTLY, I DID NOT KNOW THAT
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  • YOU WERE DOING A SECOND BOOK.
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  • I KNOW YOU DID A FIRST
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  • CHILDREN'S BOOK.
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  • YOU KNOW I'M A CHILDREN'S BOOK
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  • GUY?
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  • I'VE WRITTEN CHILDREN'S BOOKS,
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  • SO I GOT VERY EXCITED ABOUT
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  • THIS.
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  • WHAT WAS THE FIRST ONE CALLED?
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  • - CHARLOTTE: "A DAY IN THE LIFE
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  • OF THE VICE PRESIDENT."
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  • - ERIC: THE FIRST ONE BY THE
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  • RABBIT MARLON BUNDO?
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  • AND I HAVE TO ASK YOU THIS
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  • AGAIN: WHO'S IDEA WAS IT TO NAME
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  • YOUR BUNNY RABBIT
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  • "MARLON BUNDO"?
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  • - CHARLOTTE: THAT WAS ME.
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  • SO, YEAH, WE HAD HIM IN COLLEGE
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  • AND ACTUALLY GOT HIM FOR A FILM
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  • PROJECT, AND SO--
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  • - ERIC: WAIT, WAIT, WAIT--
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  • WHAT?
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  • [LAUGHTER]
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  • - CHARLOTTE: I GOT HIM FOR A
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  • STUDENT FILM.
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  • - ERIC: YOU GOT A RABBIT FOR A
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  • FILM PROJECT?
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  • - CHARLOTTE: YES.
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  • - ERIC: NOT FOR, LIKE, A
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  • CASSEROLE RECIPE?
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  • - CHARLOTTE: NO.
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  • - ERIC: OKAY, 'CAUSE A LOT OF
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  • TIMES, PEOPLE-- "OH, YEAH, BUT
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  • THAT--" NO, MY FAVORITE
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  • RESTAURANT, EVERY MONDAY, THEY
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  • HAVE, LIKE, A RABBIT DISH, AND I
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  • THINK, "NO, I CAN'T.
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  • I CAN'T DO THAT.
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  • I CAN'T DO THAT."
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  • ALL RIGHT, YOU GOT HIM
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  • FOR A FILM PROJECT?
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  • - CHARLOTTE: YEAH, YEAH, I
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  • WROTE A FILM, AND IT HAD A BUNNY
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  • IN IT, AND SO I ENDED UP GETTING
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  • HIM FOR, LIKE, A SHORT FILM
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  • PROJECT FOR SCHOOL AND JUST
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  • ENDED UP KEEPING HIM, BUT HIS
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  • NAME IS KIND OF A JOKE ON
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  • MARLON BRANDO, THE ACTOR.
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  • - ERIC: YOU REALLY DIDN'T NEED
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  • TO EXPLAIN THAT, CHARLOTTE.
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  • [LAUGHTER]
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  • MOST OF US KNOW THAT
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  • MARLON BRANDO IS AN ACTOR.
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  • OKAY, SO MARLON BUNDO IS THE
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  • RABBIT, BUT, AGAIN, YOU'VE NEVER
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  • BEEN TO THIS GLORIOUS STUDIO
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  • HERE.
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  • I'M EXCITED TO HAVE YOU BOTH SO
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  • PEOPLE CAN SEE YOU.
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  • IN THE OTHER STUDIO, YOU DIDN'T
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  • HAVE TO GET HERE IN MAKEUP, DID
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  • YOU, RIGHT?
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  • YOU JUST SHOW UP.
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  • BUT YOU DECIDED TO DO A SECOND
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  • BOOK.
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  • THIS ONE'S CALLED "A DAY IN THE
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  • NATION'S CAPITAL," WRITTEN BY
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  • CHARLOTTE PENCE, ILLUSTRATED BY
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  • KAREN PENCE.
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  • AND SINCE I'M A CHILDREN'S BOOK
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  • WRITER, I KNOW THAT THE
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  • ILLUSTRATOR DOES ALL THE WORK,
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  • SO WE'VE GOTTA SHOW THIS.
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  • WE'VE GOTTA SHOW THIS HERE,
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  • RIGHT?
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  • BUT IT IS FUNNY THOUGH BECAUSE
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  • MY FRIEND TIM RAGLAN, WHO
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  • ILLUSTRATES THIS STUFF, I MEAN,
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  • THIS IS AMAZING WORK, AND IT
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  • TAKES FOREVER.
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  • SO HOW DID THIS COME TO BE?
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  • DID YOU SAY, "HEY, MOM, ARE YA
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  • IN IT FOR ANOTHER ONE?
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  • DO YOU HAVE IT IN YOU TO DO
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  • ANOTHER--" HOW MANY
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  • ILLUSTRATIONS?
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  • - KAREN PENCE: I DON'T KNOW.
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  • PROBABLY ABOUT 20.
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  • - ERIC: TWENTY ILLUSTRATIONS.
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  • AND THEY ARE WATERCOLORS.
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  • - KAREN: THEY'RE WATERCOLORS.
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  • - ERIC: SO THEY'RE NOT JUST--
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  • LIKE, YOU DIDN'T DO IT WITH A
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  • MAGIC MARKER?
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  • - KAREN: RIGHT, THEY TAKE A
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  • WHILE.
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  • THERE'S A LOT OF PLANNING THAT
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  • GOES INTO IT TOO, YEAH.
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  • - CHARLOTTE: YEAH, WELL, WE
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  • KIND OF-- WE'RE GOING TO DO
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  • ANOTHER ONE AND, KIND OF, WANTED
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  • TO DO ONE WHERE HE JUST WENT
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  • AROUND WASHINGTON, D.C. AND
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  • LOOKED AT THE DIFFERENT
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  • MONUMENTS AND MEMORIALS, BUT
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  • THEN, WHEN WE STARTED, KIND OF,
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  • BRAINSTORMING ABOUT IT, IT MADE
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  • MORE SENSE TO MAKE IT MORE ABOUT
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  • THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND THE
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  • DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, FREEDOMS
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  • AND RIGHTS THAT WE HAVE, SO IT
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  • BECAME MORE OF AN EDUCATIONAL--
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  • - ERIC: SO YOU BELIEVE IN ALL
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  • THAT STUFF?
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  • - CHARLOTTE: MM-HMM, YEAH.
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  • [LAUGHTER]
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  • - ERIC: YEAH, SO DO I.
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  • BUT IT'S SO GREAT TO HAVE A
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  • CHILDREN'S BOOK TEACHING KIDS
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  • ABOUT THIS.
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  • OKAY, SO IT SAYS-- IT SAID
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  • SOMEPLACE IN THE-- IT'S MAINLY
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  • ABOUT THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE,
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  • BUT IT'S ALSO ABOUT THE WHOLE
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  • CAPITAL, RIGHT?
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  • YOU HAVE, OBVIOUSLY, A STORY
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  • WHERE YOU TAKE THE RABBIT TO
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  • DIFFERENT PARTS OF-- AM I REALLY
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  • SAYING THIS?
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  • YOU TAKE THE RABBIT TO DIFFERENT
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  • PARTS OF THE--
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  • [LAUGHTER]
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  • YOU DIDN'T ACTUALLY HAUL
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  • MARLON BUNDO AROUND THE CITY,
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  • RIGHT?
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  • - CHARLOTTE: WE DID NOT.
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  • - KAREN: NO, WE TOOK A--
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  • - CHARLOTTE: BUT WE DID, YEAH.
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  • - KAREN: WE TOOK A LITTLE
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  • STUFFED BUNNY, JUST TO KIND OF
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  • GET SOME IDEAS ABOUT WHERE
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  • SHOULD WE POSITION MARLON IN
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  • SOME OF THESE PLACES AND WE--
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  • - ERIC: A STUFFED BUNNY.
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  • - KAREN: WE DID.
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  • AND WE HAD AN INCIDENT AT THE
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  • LINCOLN MEMORIAL, WHERE WE PUT
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  • THE BUNNY DOWN, AND WE WERE
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  • TAKING PICTURE ALL AROUND,
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  • DIFFERENT ANGLES, AND THIS
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  • LITTLE BOY, PROBABLY ABOUT TWO,
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  • WALKED RIGHT OVER AND JUST
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  • DECIDED THAT LITTLE TOY BUNNY
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  • WAS GONNA BE HIS NEW TOY BUNNY.
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  • - ERIC: WHAT?
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  • HE STOLE THE STUNT BUNNY?
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  • - KAREN: HE DID.
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  • - ERIC: REALLY.
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  • - KAREN: YEAH.
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  • HE GAVE IT BACK.
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  • HIS MOM SAID, "NO, NO, NO, NO."
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  • BUT IT WAS REALLY KIND OF CUTE,
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  • YEAH.
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  • - ERIC: THAT IS KIND OF CUTE.
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  • OKAY, SO YOU HAD TO-- WELL, SEE,
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  • THAT'S THE THING.
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  • THAT'S THE OTHER QUESTION IS
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  • THAT, WHEN YOU'RE ILLUSTRATING A
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  • BOOK LIKE THIS, YOU KNOW, YOU
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  • HAVE TO UNDERSTAND, KAREN, THAT
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  • PEOPLE WHO AREN'T ILLUSTRATORS--
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  • AND I'M NOT-- RARELY THINK ABOUT
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  • WHAT GOES INTO AN ILLUSTRATION
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  • 'CAUSE THEY JUST SEE IT, AND
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  • THEY GO, "OH, THAT'S NICE," BUT
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  • THEY DON'T REALIZE THAT YOU HAVE
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  • TO FRAME IT, YOU HAVE TO THINK
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  • ABOUT ALL OF THAT STUFF.
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  • SO YOU DID THAT LITERALLY BY
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  • GOING AROUND THE CAPITAL AND--
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  • - KAREN: WE DID.
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  • I MEAN, WE TOOK IT AROUND TO
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  • SOME-- OF COURSE, WE DIDN'T PUT
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  • HIM ON THE BENCH AT THE SUPREME
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  • COURT BUT--
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  • - ERIC: RIGHT, OF COURSE, NOT.
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  • [LAUGHTER]
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  • - KAREN: BUT WE DID TAKE IT
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  • -- TRY AND GET SOME IDEAS, AND,
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  • YOU KNOW, THEN CHARLOTTE, ONCE
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  • SHE HAD WRITTEN THE SCRIPT, THE
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  • THEN WE WERE ABLE TO SIT DOWN.
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  • I SAT DOWN WITH THE ART DIRECTOR
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  • AT REGNERY, AND WE KIND OF
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  • TALKED THROUGH WHAT DO WE WANT
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  • MARLON DOING IN THIS PARTICULAR
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  • SPOT AND THIS SPOT SO--
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  • - ERIC: OH, YOU WENT TO THE
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  • KENNEDY CENTER.
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  • - KAREN: YES.
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  • - ERIC: INCREDIBLE.
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  • DO YOU THINK OF THIS BUNNY AS
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  • THE SECOND BUNNY OF THE
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  • UNITED STATES?
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  • - CHARLOTTE: YEAH, YES.
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  • - KAREN: I THINK WE WOULD.
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  • WE ACTUALLY CALL HIM "BOTUS,"
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  • YEAH.
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  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:05:57.170 --> 00:05:58.130
  • - ERIC: BUNNY OF--
  • 00:05:58.130 --> 00:05:59.160
  • - KAREN: THE UNITED STATES.
  • 00:05:59.160 --> 00:06:00.080
  • - ERIC: RIGHT.
  • 00:06:00.080 --> 00:06:01.260
  • BUT THE WEIRD THING IS I CAN'T
  • 00:06:01.260 --> 00:06:02.220
  • SAY THAT THIS BUNNY IS LIKE A
  • 00:06:02.220 --> 00:06:04.270
  • HEARTBEAT AWAY FROM BEING THE
  • 00:06:04.270 --> 00:06:06.020
  • FIRST BUNNY OF THE
  • 00:06:06.020 --> 00:06:08.000
  • UNITED STATES, BECAUSE THERE IS
  • 00:06:08.000 --> 00:06:10.080
  • NO FIRST BUNNY, RIGHT?
  • 00:06:10.080 --> 00:06:10.260
  • - KAREN: THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:06:10.260 --> 00:06:11.140
  • - CHARLOTTE: THERE'S NOT A
  • 00:06:11.140 --> 00:06:12.040
  • FIRST BUNNY.
  • 00:06:12.040 --> 00:06:12.160
  • - ERIC: ALTHOUGH THIS BUNNY
  • 00:06:12.160 --> 00:06:13.060
  • COULD BECOME THE FIRST BUNNY.
  • 00:06:13.060 --> 00:06:13.270
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:06:13.270 --> 00:06:14.080
  • RIGHT?
  • 00:06:14.080 --> 00:06:14.170
  • OKAY, SO WHAT ARE SOME OF THE
  • 00:06:14.170 --> 00:06:16.050
  • PLACES YOU GO TO, AND WHAT ARE
  • 00:06:16.050 --> 00:06:17.190
  • SOME OF THE LESSONS?
  • 00:06:17.190 --> 00:06:18.180
  • 'CAUSE THIS REALLY-- IT'S FOR
  • 00:06:18.180 --> 00:06:19.170
  • KIDS.
  • 00:06:19.170 --> 00:06:20.170
  • IT'S VERY SIMPLE, BUT YOU'RE
  • 00:06:20.170 --> 00:06:22.100
  • TALKING ABOUT THE HEART OF WHY
  • 00:06:22.100 --> 00:06:23.140
  • AMERICA IS GREAT, RIGHT?
  • 00:06:23.140 --> 00:06:24.210
  • THAT'S BASICALLY THE THESIS,
  • 00:06:24.210 --> 00:06:25.230
  • THROUGH THE EYES OF A BUNNY,
  • 00:06:25.230 --> 00:06:26.140
  • RIGHT?
  • 00:06:26.140 --> 00:06:29.060
  • - CHARLOTTE: YEAH, WE START
  • 00:06:29.060 --> 00:06:30.060
  • WITH TALKING ABOUT RELIGIOUS
  • 00:06:30.060 --> 00:06:31.110
  • LIBERTY WHEN MARLON LOOKS AT THE
  • 00:06:31.110 --> 00:06:32.130
  • NATIONAL CATHEDRAL AND STARTS TO
  • 00:06:32.130 --> 00:06:33.230
  • TALK ABOUT THAT, AND THEN WE
  • 00:06:33.230 --> 00:06:35.130
  • KIND OF MOVE THROUGH A LOT OF
  • 00:06:35.130 --> 00:06:37.020
  • DIFFERENT FREEDOMS, SO WE TALK
  • 00:06:37.020 --> 00:06:38.080
  • ABOUT HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO
  • 00:06:38.080 --> 00:06:40.040
  • HAVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS AND TO
  • 00:06:40.040 --> 00:06:42.000
  • GO TO THE KENNEDY CENTER TO, YOU
  • 00:06:42.000 --> 00:06:44.130
  • KNOW, INTERACT WITH THE ARTS,
  • 00:06:44.130 --> 00:06:47.070
  • AND THAT'S A GOOD WAY TO KNOW
  • 00:06:47.070 --> 00:06:48.230
  • OTHER PEOPLE'S OPINIONS, AND GO
  • 00:06:48.230 --> 00:06:50.100
  • TO THE LIBRARY OF CONGRESS TO
  • 00:06:50.100 --> 00:06:51.100
  • READ ABOUT OTHER OPINIONS, BUT,
  • 00:06:51.100 --> 00:06:52.120
  • YEAH, AND THEN WE TALK ABOUT
  • 00:06:52.120 --> 00:06:54.210
  • EQUALITY AND HOW IMPORTANT THAT
  • 00:06:54.210 --> 00:06:55.130
  • IS, THEN WE GO TO THE MEMORIAL
  • 00:06:56.240 --> 00:06:59.240
  • FOR DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR.
  • 00:06:59.240 --> 00:07:02.100
  • SO THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT
  • 00:07:02.100 --> 00:07:04.030
  • ONES WE REALLY WANTED TO
  • 00:07:04.030 --> 00:07:05.210
  • INCLUDE.
  • 00:07:05.210 --> 00:07:06.150
  • IT WAS HONESTLY VERY DIFFICULT
  • 00:07:06.150 --> 00:07:07.190
  • TO CHOOSE WHICH ONES TO INCLUDE,
  • 00:07:07.190 --> 00:07:09.000
  • AND WE WANTED TO GET A LOT OF
  • 00:07:09.000 --> 00:07:11.090
  • THE WAR MEMORIALS IN THERE AS
  • 00:07:11.090 --> 00:07:13.020
  • WELL, OF COURSE.
  • 00:07:13.020 --> 00:07:13.180
  • AND THEN, AT THE END, MARLON
  • 00:07:13.240 --> 00:07:16.240
  • ENDS UP AT THE ARLINGTON
  • 00:07:16.240 --> 00:07:17.230
  • NATIONAL CEMETERY, AND THAT'S
  • 00:07:17.230 --> 00:07:19.000
  • WHEN HE KIND OF REALIZES THAT
  • 00:07:19.000 --> 00:07:20.170
  • ALL THESE FREEDOMS THAT HE'S
  • 00:07:20.170 --> 00:07:21.200
  • BEEN LEARNING ABOUT ARE REALLY
  • 00:07:21.200 --> 00:07:23.000
  • OWED TO MEMBERS OF THE MILITARY
  • 00:07:23.190 --> 00:07:26.190
  • AND THEIR FAMILIES, SO THAT'S
  • 00:07:26.190 --> 00:07:27.140
  • ACTUALLY WHO WE DEDICATED THE
  • 00:07:27.140 --> 00:07:29.130
  • BOOK TO.
  • 00:07:29.130 --> 00:07:31.070
  • - ERIC: AND IT'S A REGNERY
  • 00:07:31.070 --> 00:07:32.040
  • BOOK.
  • 00:07:32.040 --> 00:07:32.170
  • REGNERY PUBLISHES BEAUTIFUL
  • 00:07:32.170 --> 00:07:33.070
  • CHILDREN'S BOOK.
  • 00:07:33.070 --> 00:07:34.210
  • MY FAVORITE IS "DONALD DRAINS
  • 00:07:34.210 --> 00:07:36.260
  • THE SWAMP," BY ERIC METAXAS.
  • 00:07:36.260 --> 00:07:38.150
  • - FEMALE: GREAT BOOK.
  • 00:07:38.150 --> 00:07:39.020
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:07:39.020 --> 00:07:39.190
  • - ERIC: IT'S A UNBELIEVABLE
  • 00:07:39.190 --> 00:07:40.090
  • BOOK.
  • 00:07:40.090 --> 00:07:40.200
  • REALLY HARD TO SAY HOW GREAT
  • 00:07:40.200 --> 00:07:41.100
  • THAT IS.
  • 00:07:41.100 --> 00:07:42.280
  • BUT, OKAY, SO THIS ONE,
  • 00:07:42.280 --> 00:07:44.080
  • ACCORDING TO PARENTS.COM,
  • 00:07:44.080 --> 00:07:46.020
  • "MARLON BUNDO IS THE ADORABLE
  • 00:07:46.050 --> 00:07:49.050
  • BUNNY THAT SHOULD BRING US ALL
  • 00:07:49.050 --> 00:07:49.260
  • TOGETHER."
  • 00:07:49.260 --> 00:07:50.110
  • IT IS KIND OF CUTE THAT
  • 00:07:50.110 --> 00:07:51.120
  • IT'S A BUNNY 'CAUSE IT'S
  • 00:07:51.120 --> 00:07:52.130
  • HARD TO ARGUE WITH BUNNIES.
  • 00:07:52.130 --> 00:07:53.100
  • IF YOU, FOR YOUR FILM PROJECT,
  • 00:07:53.100 --> 00:07:54.250
  • HAD, LIKE, A BOA CONSTRICTOR--
  • 00:07:54.250 --> 00:07:56.150
  • RIGHT?
  • 00:07:56.150 --> 00:07:57.170
  • -- IT WOULD NOT BE AS CUTE.
  • 00:07:57.170 --> 00:07:59.080
  • NOT BE AS CUTE.
  • 00:07:59.080 --> 00:08:00.180
  • - CHARLOTTE: YEAH, IT WAS
  • 00:08:00.180 --> 00:08:01.080
  • FUNNY.
  • 00:08:01.080 --> 00:08:01.290
  • PEOPLE ACTUALLY KIND OF SAID,
  • 00:08:01.290 --> 00:08:02.200
  • A BUNNY IS KIND OF HARD TO GET.
  • 00:08:05.040 --> 00:08:05.260
  • YOU SHOULD JUST CHANGE IT TO,
  • 00:08:05.260 --> 00:08:06.170
  • LIKE, A DOG OR A CAT OR
  • 00:08:06.170 --> 00:08:07.160
  • SOMETHING."
  • 00:08:07.160 --> 00:08:08.060
  • I WAS LIKE, "BUT BUNNIES ARE,
  • 00:08:08.060 --> 00:08:08.270
  • LIKE, NEUTRAL, YOU KNOW?"
  • 00:08:08.270 --> 00:08:09.260
  • AND FOR THIS CHARACTER, HE HAD
  • 00:08:09.260 --> 00:08:10.200
  • TO BE KIND OF NEUTRAL.
  • 00:08:10.200 --> 00:08:11.160
  • - ERIC: BUNNIES ARE NEUTRAL
  • 00:08:11.160 --> 00:08:12.060
  • BECAUSE THEY'RE NEITHER DOGS NOR
  • 00:08:12.060 --> 00:08:12.280
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:08:14.180 --> 00:08:14.290
  • IT'S ALMOST LIKE POLITICALLY
  • 00:08:14.290 --> 00:08:15.210
  • INDEPENDENT, RIGHT?
  • 00:08:15.210 --> 00:08:16.070
  • - CHARLOTTE: YEAH, HE'S
  • 00:08:16.070 --> 00:08:16.260
  • BIPARTISAN, YES.
  • 00:08:16.260 --> 00:08:18.020
  • - ERIC: THAT IS REALLY WEIRD.
  • 00:08:18.020 --> 00:08:18.230
  • - CHARLOTTE: VERY MODERATE.
  • 00:08:18.230 --> 00:08:19.290
  • - ERIC: HE'S BIPARTISAN.
  • 00:08:19.290 --> 00:08:22.030
  • LOOK, AND HE'S BLACK AND WHITE
  • 00:08:22.030 --> 00:08:23.000
  • LIKE THOSE GREAT COOKIES YOU CAN
  • 00:08:23.000 --> 00:08:23.250
  • GET.
  • 00:08:23.250 --> 00:08:24.110
  • THAT IS SO COOL.
  • 00:08:24.110 --> 00:08:25.180
  • OKAY, SO WHERE ELSE DOES
  • 00:08:25.180 --> 00:08:26.130
  • MARLON BUNDO VISIT?
  • 00:08:26.130 --> 00:08:29.050
  • - CHARLOTTE: SO MARLON GOES--
  • 00:08:29.050 --> 00:08:30.190
  • HE KIND OF GOES ALL AROUND D.C.
  • 00:08:30.190 --> 00:08:31.290
  • HE GOES TO THE ARCHIVES, SO WE
  • 00:08:31.290 --> 00:08:33.260
  • HAVE AN AWESOME LITTLE PICTURE
  • 00:08:33.260 --> 00:08:36.250
  • MY MOM DID OF HIM SITTING ON TOP
  • 00:08:36.250 --> 00:08:37.170
  • OF THE CONSTITUTION AND LOOKING
  • 00:08:37.170 --> 00:08:38.200
  • THROUGH THE GLASS.
  • 00:08:38.200 --> 00:08:40.130
  • HE GOES TO THE LIBRARY OF
  • 00:08:40.130 --> 00:08:41.080
  • CONGRESS, WHICH WE DID TAKE THE
  • 00:08:41.080 --> 00:08:43.200
  • STUFFED BUNNY TO, AND HE GETS TO
  • 00:08:43.200 --> 00:08:45.150
  • LOOK AT HIS FIRST BOOK.
  • 00:08:45.150 --> 00:08:47.280
  • SO THE FIRST BOOK WE DID, LIKE
  • 00:08:47.280 --> 00:08:48.270
  • YOU SAID, WAS "MARLON BUNDO'S A
  • 00:08:48.270 --> 00:08:50.120
  • DAY IN THE LIFE OF THE VICE
  • 00:08:50.120 --> 00:08:52.080
  • PRESIDENT."
  • 00:08:52.080 --> 00:08:53.090
  • - ERIC: OH, YOU MEAN
  • 00:08:53.090 --> 00:08:53.260
  • MARLON BUNDO,
  • 00:08:53.260 --> 00:08:54.090
  • THE STUFFED VERSION,
  • 00:08:54.090 --> 00:08:54.290
  • THE STUNT BUNNY,
  • 00:08:54.290 --> 00:08:55.200
  • WAS ABLE TO LOOK AT THE
  • 00:08:55.200 --> 00:08:56.150
  • BOOK ABOUT HIMSELF IN THE
  • 00:08:56.150 --> 00:08:58.260
  • LIBRARY OF CONGRESS?
  • 00:08:58.260 --> 00:09:00.060
  • - CHARLOTTE: YES, AND THE
  • 00:09:00.060 --> 00:09:00.280
  • PAINTING IS IN THERE TO
  • 00:09:00.280 --> 00:09:01.230
  • DOCUMENT.
  • 00:09:01.230 --> 00:09:02.270
  • - ERIC: THAT IS, LIKE, TOO
  • 00:09:02.270 --> 00:09:03.170
  • - CHARLOTTE: IT IS VERY META.
  • 00:09:06.070 --> 00:09:06.280
  • - ERIC: IT'S LIKE META-META.
  • 00:09:06.280 --> 00:09:07.190
  • IT'S, LIKE, FREAKIN' ME OUT.
  • 00:09:07.190 --> 00:09:08.090
  • IT'S LIKE FACING MIRRORS, THE
  • 00:09:08.090 --> 00:09:09.000
  • END OF THE WORLD.
  • 00:09:09.000 --> 00:09:09.150
  • SO SINCE THE NAME OF THE BUNNY
  • 00:09:09.170 --> 00:09:12.170
  • IS THIS, LIKE, LOADED WITH TONS
  • 00:09:14.230 --> 00:09:15.150
  • OF SLY, LIKE, CINEMA REFERENCES
  • 00:09:15.150 --> 00:09:18.110
  • TO MARLON BRANDO MOVIES?
  • 00:09:18.110 --> 00:09:19.290
  • - CHARLOTTE: IT IS NOT,
  • 00:09:19.290 --> 00:09:21.030
  • UNFORTUNATELY.
  • 00:09:21.030 --> 00:09:21.280
  • - ERIC: NO?
  • 00:09:21.280 --> 00:09:22.110
  • - CHARLOTTE: MAYBE WE'LL DO
  • 00:09:22.110 --> 00:09:23.020
  • ANOTHER ONE AND--
  • 00:09:23.020 --> 00:09:24.110
  • - ERIC: ARE YOU SURE THAT YOUR
  • 00:09:24.110 --> 00:09:25.030
  • MOTHER HASN'T SLYLY PUT IN
  • 00:09:25.030 --> 00:09:27.020
  • THINGS INTO THE PHOTOGRAPHS?
  • 00:09:27.020 --> 00:09:28.020
  • LIKE YOU'LL SEE A TINY HORSE'S
  • 00:09:28.020 --> 00:09:29.040
  • HEAD IN A BED?
  • 00:09:29.040 --> 00:09:30.010
  • - KAREN: NO, NO, NO.
  • 00:09:30.010 --> 00:09:30.180
  • - ERIC: NO?
  • 00:09:30.180 --> 00:09:31.090
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:09:31.090 --> 00:09:31.260
  • NOTHING LIKE THAT?
  • 00:09:31.260 --> 00:09:32.120
  • OKAY.
  • 00:09:32.120 --> 00:09:34.090
  • - FEMALE: NO, UNFORTUNATELY.
  • 00:09:34.090 --> 00:09:35.020
  • - ERIC: OKAY, SO, WELL, IT
  • 00:09:35.020 --> 00:09:36.100
  • SEEMS NOW THAT YOU'VE DONE TWO,
  • 00:09:36.100 --> 00:09:37.240
  • THAT EVERYBODY'S GONNA ASK YOU
  • 00:09:37.240 --> 00:09:39.000
  • THE SAME QUESTION: "ARE YOU
  • 00:09:39.000 --> 00:09:39.210
  • GOING TO CONTINUE TO DO A
  • 00:09:39.210 --> 00:09:40.220
  • SERIES?"
  • 00:09:40.220 --> 00:09:42.190
  • I MEAN, I CERTAINLY HOPE YOU DO,
  • 00:09:42.190 --> 00:09:43.130
  • BUT SHE'S DOIN' ALL THE WORK
  • 00:09:43.130 --> 00:09:45.060
  • HERE SO--
  • 00:09:45.060 --> 00:09:46.000
  • - KAREN: WE ACTUALLY-- THE
  • 00:09:46.000 --> 00:09:48.070
  • THIRD BOOK IS COMING OUT
  • 00:09:48.070 --> 00:09:50.220
  • OCTOBER 29TH, AND IT'S
  • 00:09:50.220 --> 00:09:51.100
  • "MARLON BUNDO'S
  • 00:09:51.100 --> 00:09:52.280
  • CHRISTMAS MIRACLE,"
  • 00:09:52.280 --> 00:09:54.110
  • SO PEOPLE CAN PREORDER IT NOW,
  • 00:09:54.110 --> 00:09:56.170
  • ACTUALLY BUT--
  • 00:09:56.170 --> 00:09:57.160
  • - ERIC: "MARLON BUNDO'S
  • 00:09:57.160 --> 00:09:58.040
  • CHRISTMAS MIRACLE"?
  • 00:09:58.040 --> 00:10:00.000
  • - KAREN: YES, SO IT'S OUR
  • 00:10:00.000 --> 00:10:00.270
  • CHRISTMAS BOOK.
  • 00:10:00.270 --> 00:10:01.110
  • IT'S ADORABLE.
  • 00:10:01.110 --> 00:10:02.220
  • - ERIC: SO INTERESTING, TO ME,
  • 00:10:02.220 --> 00:10:03.140
  • TO THINK THAT THE LIFE OF A
  • 00:10:03.140 --> 00:10:04.190
  • SECOND LADY AND A SECOND
  • 00:10:04.190 --> 00:10:07.180
  • DAUGHTER, SO TO SPEAK, THAT IT
  • 00:10:07.180 --> 00:10:08.200
  • MUST BE ODD TO GO FROM BEING IN
  • 00:10:08.200 --> 00:10:11.090
  • INDIANA, SUDDENLY TO HAVE SECRET
  • 00:10:11.090 --> 00:10:13.290
  • SERVICE AND ALL THIS STUFF AND
  • 00:10:13.290 --> 00:10:15.220
  • ALL THE PROTOCOL THAT GOES WITH
  • 00:10:15.220 --> 00:10:17.080
  • - KAREN: YEAH, I THINK THE
  • 00:10:19.290 --> 00:10:20.290
  • PRIVACY PROBABLY IS THE HARDEST
  • 00:10:20.290 --> 00:10:21.210
  • THING-- IS THE LACK OF PRIVACY.
  • 00:10:21.210 --> 00:10:24.050
  • THERE'S ALWAYS SOMEONE WITH US,
  • 00:10:24.050 --> 00:10:24.270
  • SO THAT PART IS A LITTLE BIT
  • 00:10:24.270 --> 00:10:25.170
  • BUT THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO
  • 00:10:30.020 --> 00:10:30.210
  • SO MANY THINGS FOR GOOD
  • 00:10:30.210 --> 00:10:31.090
  • AND TO ELEVATE CAUSES-- YOU
  • 00:10:31.090 --> 00:10:32.170
  • KNOW, CHARLOTTE AND I BOTH HAVE
  • 00:10:32.170 --> 00:10:33.240
  • CHARITIES THAT WE'RE GIVING
  • 00:10:33.240 --> 00:10:35.150
  • MONEY TO FROM THESE BOOKS, AND
  • 00:10:35.150 --> 00:10:37.010
  • SO TO BE ABLE TO ELEVATE
  • 00:10:37.270 --> 00:10:40.270
  • SOMETHING THAT WE CARE ABOUT AND
  • 00:10:40.270 --> 00:10:42.170
  • HELP PEOPLE IS VERY SPECIAL.
  • 00:10:42.170 --> 00:10:45.110
  • - ERIC: WELL, IT'S WONDERFUL,
  • 00:10:45.110 --> 00:10:47.170
  • AND, AGAIN, THIS CHILDREN'S
  • 00:10:47.170 --> 00:10:49.140
  • BOOK, THE FACT THAT IT'S NOT
  • 00:10:49.140 --> 00:10:50.110
  • JUST A CHILDREN'S BOOK BUT THAT
  • 00:10:50.110 --> 00:10:51.190
  • YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THINGS THAT
  • 00:10:51.190 --> 00:10:52.290
  • I THINK SOMETIMES, IF YOU'RE IN
  • 00:10:52.290 --> 00:10:55.170
  • THE PROFESSIONAL POLITICAL
  • 00:10:55.170 --> 00:10:56.200
  • CLASS, YOU FORGET HOW BEAUTIFUL
  • 00:10:56.200 --> 00:10:58.110
  • IT IS TO COME TO THE NATION'S
  • 00:10:58.110 --> 00:10:59.200
  • CAPITAL AND TO SEE ALL THESE
  • 00:10:59.200 --> 00:11:01.170
  • THINGS, AND IT REALLY IS.
  • 00:11:01.170 --> 00:11:02.140
  • IT'S VERY MOVING AS IT OUGHT TO
  • 00:11:02.140 --> 00:11:03.220
  • BE.
  • 00:11:03.220 --> 00:11:04.110
  • IT'S DESIGNED SO BEAUTIFULLY.
  • 00:11:04.110 --> 00:11:05.260
  • SO YOU REALLY ARE PLANNING TO DO
  • 00:11:05.260 --> 00:11:07.120
  • MORE OF THESE, LIKE, FOR SURE,
  • 00:11:07.120 --> 00:11:09.050
  • RIGHT?
  • 00:11:09.050 --> 00:11:10.170
  • - KAREN: YEAH, WE DEFINITELY
  • 00:11:10.170 --> 00:11:11.100
  • HAVE-- THE THIRD ONE IS ALL
  • 00:11:11.100 --> 00:11:12.000
  • READY.
  • 00:11:12.000 --> 00:11:13.050
  • - CHARLOTTE: AND HOPEFULLY
  • 00:11:13.050 --> 00:11:13.250
  • MORE.
  • 00:11:13.250 --> 00:11:15.010
  • - ERIC: OKAY, MY QUESTIONS GET
  • 00:11:15.010 --> 00:11:15.230
  • MORE AND MORE PERSONAL, SO I
  • 00:11:15.230 --> 00:11:16.250
  • THINK WE BETTER STOP RIGHT NOW.
  • 00:11:16.250 --> 00:11:17.170
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:11:17.170 --> 00:11:19.190
  • CHARLOTTE PENCE, KAREN PENCE,
  • 00:11:19.190 --> 00:11:20.100
  • JUST A JOY TO HAVE YOU HERE.
  • 00:11:20.100 --> 00:11:22.050
  • THANKS FOR COMING.
  • 00:11:22.050 --> 00:11:22.290
  • SOMETIMES I REALLY ENJOY DOING
  • 00:11:36.260 --> 00:11:37.170
  • THIS PROGRAM.
  • 00:11:37.170 --> 00:11:38.270
  • THIS IS ONE OF 'EM.
  • 00:11:38.270 --> 00:11:39.130
  • I'M SITTING HERE IN THE STUDIO
  • 00:11:42.020 --> 00:11:42.230
  • WITH A MAN I DON'T THINK NEEDS
  • 00:11:42.230 --> 00:11:44.090
  • PHIL ROBERTSON, WELCOME TO THE
  • 00:11:47.050 --> 00:11:47.260
  • SHOW.
  • 00:11:47.260 --> 00:11:49.110
  • NOW, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO TALK
  • 00:11:49.110 --> 00:11:50.170
  • 'CAUSE THIS IS RADIO.
  • 00:11:50.170 --> 00:11:51.160
  • YOU KNOW THAT, RIGHT?
  • 00:11:51.160 --> 00:11:52.150
  • BUT THE THUMBS UP WORKS 'CAUSE
  • 00:11:52.260 --> 00:11:55.260
  • PEOPLE, ALL THEY NEED TO DO IS
  • 00:11:58.240 --> 00:11:59.200
  • LOOK AT YOU, AND THEY KNOW WHO
  • 00:11:59.200 --> 00:12:00.140
  • YOU ARE.
  • 00:12:00.140 --> 00:12:02.170
  • I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE
  • 00:12:02.170 --> 00:12:03.070
  • KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT YOU EXCEPT
  • 00:12:03.070 --> 00:12:04.020
  • THAT YOU ARE THE PATRIARCH OF
  • 00:12:04.020 --> 00:12:06.030
  • THE "DUCK DYNASTY" WORLD.
  • 00:12:06.030 --> 00:12:06.220
  • YOU'VE BEEN ON THIS PROGRAM ONCE
  • 00:12:06.220 --> 00:12:08.020
  • BEFORE, AND I'VE LOVED YOU FOR
  • 00:12:08.020 --> 00:12:10.200
  • YEARS.
  • 00:12:10.200 --> 00:12:11.230
  • BUT YOU HAVE A NEW BOOK OUT, AND
  • 00:12:11.230 --> 00:12:13.230
  • I READ IT, AND I WAS FLIPPED-OUT
  • 00:12:16.200 --> 00:12:19.200
  • EXCITED ABOUT IT BECAUSE THERE'S
  • 00:12:19.200 --> 00:12:21.210
  • MORE COMMON SENSE IN THIS BOOK
  • 00:12:21.210 --> 00:12:23.090
  • THAN IN THE LIBRARY OF CONGRESS,
  • 00:12:23.090 --> 00:12:25.090
  • WHICH IS REALLY NOT SAYING MUCH,
  • 00:12:25.090 --> 00:12:26.210
  • BUT IT'S SO TERRIFIC.
  • 00:12:26.210 --> 00:12:29.040
  • THE TITLE OF THE NEW BOOK, WHICH
  • 00:12:29.040 --> 00:12:30.170
  • IS OUT TODAY, IS "THE THEFT OF
  • 00:12:30.250 --> 00:12:33.250
  • AMERICA'S SOUL: BLOWING THE LID
  • 00:12:33.250 --> 00:12:36.200
  • OFF THE LIES THAT ARE DESTROYING
  • 00:12:36.200 --> 00:12:39.050
  • OUR COUNTRY."
  • 00:12:39.070 --> 00:12:42.070
  • WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO SAY FOR
  • 00:12:42.070 --> 00:12:43.170
  • YOURSELF, PHIL ROBERTSON?
  • 00:12:43.170 --> 00:12:44.060
  • - PHIL ROBERTSON: I LOOKED AT
  • 00:12:44.060 --> 00:12:46.160
  • THE SAME CULTURE YOU'RE LOOKING
  • 00:12:46.160 --> 00:12:48.220
  • AT.
  • 00:12:48.220 --> 00:12:50.110
  • WE'RE BOTH SEEIN' THE SAME
  • 00:12:50.110 --> 00:12:51.110
  • THING, AND I SAID, "WHY WOULD WE
  • 00:12:52.270 --> 00:12:55.270
  • GET TO THE POINT WHERE WE'RE
  • 00:12:56.100 --> 00:12:59.100
  • JUMPING UP AND DOWN, CHEERING
  • 00:12:59.190 --> 00:13:02.210
  • BECAUSE WE NOW CAN MURDER OUR
  • 00:13:03.280 --> 00:13:06.280
  • SONS AND DAUGHTERS AFTER THEY
  • 00:13:07.030 --> 00:13:10.030
  • COME OUT OF THE WOMB?
  • 00:13:10.030 --> 00:13:12.090
  • THAT'S YOUR FAMILY, THE GIFT OF
  • 00:13:12.090 --> 00:13:14.050
  • LIFE.
  • 00:13:14.060 --> 00:13:17.060
  • GOD'S GIVING YOU A GIFT."
  • 00:13:17.200 --> 00:13:20.200
  • AND WE KILL THEM DURING THE
  • 00:13:20.200 --> 00:13:22.000
  • GESTATION PERIOD,
  • 00:13:22.000 --> 00:13:24.230
  • AND WE, WITH A STRAIGHT
  • 00:13:24.230 --> 00:13:26.010
  • FACE, SAY-- HAVING LOOKED AT
  • 00:13:26.030 --> 00:13:29.030
  • PROCREATION, MAN, WOMAN, SEXUAL
  • 00:13:29.250 --> 00:13:32.250
  • INTERCOURSE, FERTILIZATION,
  • 00:13:32.250 --> 00:13:35.060
  • GESTATION, BIRTH, PROCREATION,
  • 00:13:36.210 --> 00:13:39.210
  • IT'S HOW ALL THE HUMAN BEINGS
  • 00:13:39.210 --> 00:13:41.190
  • GOT HERE ON THE EARTH.
  • 00:13:41.190 --> 00:13:43.230
  • WE GET IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT
  • 00:13:43.230 --> 00:13:45.180
  • PROCESS AND SAY, "I'LL JUST TAKE
  • 00:13:45.240 --> 00:13:48.240
  • MINE OUT RIGHT HERE OR RIGHT
  • 00:13:49.280 --> 00:13:52.280
  • HERE BECAUSE THEY'RE REALLY NOT
  • 00:13:52.280 --> 00:13:53.200
  • HUMANS."
  • 00:13:53.200 --> 00:13:54.080
  • I'M LIKE, "THERE'S SEVEN
  • 00:13:54.080 --> 00:13:55.040
  • BILLION OF US.
  • 00:13:55.040 --> 00:13:56.010
  • THAT'S HOW WE ALL GOT HERE.
  • 00:13:56.010 --> 00:13:58.090
  • THAT'S THE SEQUENCE OF EVENTS."
  • 00:13:58.090 --> 00:14:00.220
  • I'M NOT GETTIN' IT, ERIC.
  • 00:14:00.220 --> 00:14:03.000
  • I'M NOT GETTIN' IT, EXCEPT--
  • 00:14:03.000 --> 00:14:04.020
  • - ERIC: WELL, I HOPE YOU DON'T
  • 00:14:04.020 --> 00:14:04.240
  • GET IT.
  • 00:14:04.240 --> 00:14:05.040
  • - PHIL: -- IF IT'S A LIE.
  • 00:14:05.040 --> 00:14:07.020
  • THE EVIL ONE TELLS 'EM A LIE:
  • 00:14:07.020 --> 00:14:08.070
  • "THEY'RE REALLY NOT-- THAT'S A
  • 00:14:08.070 --> 00:14:08.290
  • GLOB OF MOLECULE."
  • 00:14:08.290 --> 00:14:09.190
  • ALL THIS "NO GOD" THING.
  • 00:14:09.190 --> 00:14:11.180
  • "NO, THERE'S NO PENALTY TO BE
  • 00:14:11.180 --> 00:14:13.070
  • PAID."
  • 00:14:13.070 --> 00:14:13.240
  • THESE PEOPLE ARE KILLING
  • 00:14:13.280 --> 00:14:16.280
  • THEIR CHILDREN, ERIC.
  • 00:14:16.280 --> 00:14:18.010
  • - ERIC: I SPEAK FROM A POSITION
  • 00:14:18.010 --> 00:14:19.230
  • OF KNOWING HOW THAT CAN HAPPEN
  • 00:14:19.280 --> 00:14:22.280
  • TO PEOPLE BECAUSE WE'RE LIVING
  • 00:14:22.280 --> 00:14:24.100
  • IN A CULTURE THAT IS NOT GIVING
  • 00:14:24.230 --> 00:14:27.230
  • US THE TRUTH, AND SO THERE ARE
  • 00:14:27.230 --> 00:14:28.290
  • PLENTY, I WOULD SAY, GOOD PEOPLE
  • 00:14:28.290 --> 00:14:30.080
  • THAT THEY'VE NEVER HEARD WHAT
  • 00:14:30.080 --> 00:14:32.130
  • YOU AND I KNOW.
  • 00:14:32.130 --> 00:14:34.100
  • WE KNOW THIS, SO WE REALLY HAVE
  • 00:14:34.100 --> 00:14:36.020
  • NO EXCUSE, BUT I WOULD SAY, MOST
  • 00:14:36.020 --> 00:14:38.190
  • PEOPLE WILL NEVER HEAR YOUR
  • 00:14:38.190 --> 00:14:40.280
  • POINT OF VIEW OR MY POINT OF
  • 00:14:40.280 --> 00:14:43.080
  • VIEW.
  • 00:14:43.080 --> 00:14:44.140
  • I MEAN, YOU COULD WATCH TV FOR
  • 00:14:44.140 --> 00:14:45.050
  • YEARS.
  • 00:14:45.050 --> 00:14:47.060
  • YOU WILL NEVER HEAR A WOMAN COME
  • 00:14:47.060 --> 00:14:48.110
  • ON AND SAY, "I HAD AN ABORTION,
  • 00:14:48.220 --> 00:14:51.220
  • AND IT RUINED MY LIFE."
  • 00:14:51.220 --> 00:14:52.190
  • YOU'LL NEVER HEAR THAT.
  • 00:14:52.190 --> 00:14:53.120
  • OPRAH WILL HAVE THOUSANDS OF
  • 00:14:53.120 --> 00:14:54.270
  • GUESTS.
  • 00:14:54.270 --> 00:14:56.190
  • YOU'LL NEVER HEAR THAT POINT OF
  • 00:14:56.190 --> 00:14:57.130
  • VIEW, AND, YET WE KNOW THAT
  • 00:14:57.130 --> 00:14:58.150
  • THERE ARE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE
  • 00:14:58.150 --> 00:14:59.200
  • AROUND THE WORLD, WOMEN, WALKIN'
  • 00:14:59.200 --> 00:15:01.050
  • AROUND WITH THAT WOUND.
  • 00:15:01.050 --> 00:15:03.080
  • THEY HAVE NO PLACE TO TALK ABOUT
  • 00:15:03.080 --> 00:15:04.190
  • THAT BECAUSE THAT'S NOT
  • 00:15:04.190 --> 00:15:06.000
  • ACCEPTABLE.
  • 00:15:06.000 --> 00:15:07.270
  • - PHIL: MAYBE NOT EVEN
  • 00:15:07.270 --> 00:15:08.250
  • REALIZING THEY CAN BE FORGIVEN.
  • 00:15:08.250 --> 00:15:10.250
  • - ERIC: WELL, SEE, THAT'S THE
  • 00:15:10.250 --> 00:15:11.160
  • KEY.
  • 00:15:11.160 --> 00:15:12.010
  • THAT'S THE KEY.
  • 00:15:12.010 --> 00:15:12.150
  • - PHIL: AND PROBABLY MOST OF
  • 00:15:12.150 --> 00:15:13.120
  • 'EM DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT.
  • 00:15:13.120 --> 00:15:14.020
  • - ERIC: THEY'RE ALSO NOT GONNA
  • 00:15:14.020 --> 00:15:15.030
  • HEAR THAT PIECE, AND IF YOU
  • 00:15:15.030 --> 00:15:16.170
  • DON'T KNOW YOU CAN BE FORGIVEN,
  • 00:15:16.170 --> 00:15:17.220
  • WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO ADMIT
  • 00:15:17.220 --> 00:15:19.030
  • YOU'VE DONE SOMETHING?
  • 00:15:19.030 --> 00:15:20.100
  • BETTER TO PUSH IT DOWN.
  • 00:15:20.100 --> 00:15:21.260
  • SO I THINK THAT'S PART OF IT, I
  • 00:15:21.260 --> 00:15:23.130
  • THINK, PHIL, IS THAT, IF YOU
  • 00:15:23.130 --> 00:15:25.080
  • DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S A GOD
  • 00:15:25.120 --> 00:15:28.120
  • WHO LOVES YOU AND WANTS TO
  • 00:15:28.120 --> 00:15:29.180
  • FORGIVE YOU, THEN YOU BUY INTO
  • 00:15:29.180 --> 00:15:31.060
  • THE LIE THAT "THESE PEOPLE JUST
  • 00:15:31.060 --> 00:15:32.240
  • WANNA CONDEMN YOU," AND "WHY
  • 00:15:32.240 --> 00:15:34.120
  • SHOULD YOU ALLOW THEM TO CONDEMN
  • 00:15:34.120 --> 00:15:35.100
  • YOU?"
  • 00:15:35.100 --> 00:15:35.240
  • "SO SHUT UP.
  • 00:15:35.240 --> 00:15:36.120
  • DON'T TALK TO ME ABOUT WHAT I
  • 00:15:36.120 --> 00:15:37.100
  • HAVE DONE."
  • 00:15:37.100 --> 00:15:38.220
  • AND I THINK THAT THERE'S A
  • 00:15:38.220 --> 00:15:39.110
  • POINT OF YOU, IN A SENSE,
  • 00:15:39.110 --> 00:15:40.190
  • THAT, IF YOU DON'T KNOW
  • 00:15:40.190 --> 00:15:41.270
  • THERE'S A LOVING GOD WHO WANTS
  • 00:15:41.270 --> 00:15:43.110
  • TO FORGIVE YOU, YOU DON'T WANNA
  • 00:15:43.110 --> 00:15:44.130
  • HEAR ABOUT THE EVILS OF
  • 00:15:44.130 --> 00:15:46.280
  • ABORTION.
  • 00:15:46.280 --> 00:15:47.170
  • - PHIL: PROBABLY SO.
  • 00:15:47.170 --> 00:15:48.060
  • YOU KNOW, THEY BROUGHT UP AN
  • 00:15:48.060 --> 00:15:50.060
  • INTERESTING POINT.
  • 00:15:50.060 --> 00:15:53.030
  • WHEN'S THE LAST TIME, JUST OFF
  • 00:15:53.030 --> 00:15:55.030
  • THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD, NEWS
  • 00:15:57.000 --> 00:16:00.020
  • MEDIA, THE POLITICIANS,
  • 00:16:00.080 --> 00:16:03.080
  • WASHINGTON, THE INSTITUTIONS OF
  • 00:16:04.030 --> 00:16:07.030
  • HIGHER LEARNING, WHEN'S THE LAST
  • 00:16:07.030 --> 00:16:09.220
  • TIME YOU HEARD SOMEONE JUST
  • 00:16:09.220 --> 00:16:11.270
  • EXPOUND ON THE LITTLE WORD
  • 00:16:12.200 --> 00:16:15.200
  • "SIN"?
  • 00:16:15.200 --> 00:16:17.200
  • WHEN'S THE LAST TIME YOU HEARD
  • 00:16:17.200 --> 00:16:18.110
  • ANYONE SPEAK OF ANYTHING BEING
  • 00:16:18.110 --> 00:16:20.210
  • SINFUL?
  • 00:16:20.210 --> 00:16:23.150
  • - ERIC: WELL, YOU DON'T EVEN
  • 00:16:23.150 --> 00:16:24.060
  • HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THAT.
  • 00:16:24.060 --> 00:16:25.070
  • YOU COULD ASK EVEN THE TOUGHER
  • 00:16:25.070 --> 00:16:26.220
  • QUESTION, "WHAT'S THE LAST TIME
  • 00:16:26.220 --> 00:16:29.010
  • YOU HEARD SOMEBODY FROM A PULPIT
  • 00:16:29.010 --> 00:16:30.140
  • EXPOUND ON THAT?"
  • 00:16:30.140 --> 00:16:32.230
  • IN OTHER WORDS, WE'RE LIVING IN
  • 00:16:32.230 --> 00:16:33.210
  • A TIME WHEN THAT IS A RARER
  • 00:16:33.210 --> 00:16:34.180
  • THING.
  • 00:16:34.180 --> 00:16:36.230
  • - PHIL: I KNOW IT.
  • 00:16:36.230 --> 00:16:37.130
  • - ERIC: AND SO THAT'S-- TO ME,
  • 00:16:37.130 --> 00:16:38.140
  • IF YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT WHERE
  • 00:16:38.140 --> 00:16:39.140
  • THE PROBLEM IS, THAT'S THE REAL
  • 00:16:39.140 --> 00:16:40.070
  • PROBLEM.
  • 00:16:40.070 --> 00:16:41.060
  • IF THE POLITICIANS DON'T SPEAK
  • 00:16:41.060 --> 00:16:42.170
  • ABOUT IT, I DON'T EXPECT THEM TO
  • 00:16:42.170 --> 00:16:43.150
  • GET WHAT THE PASTORS DON'T GET,
  • 00:16:43.150 --> 00:16:46.120
  • SO WE'RE WADING INTO SOME DEEP
  • 00:16:47.110 --> 00:16:50.110
  • STUFF ALREADY.
  • 00:16:50.110 --> 00:16:51.290
  • - PHIL: YOU ARE NOW
  • 00:16:51.290 --> 00:16:52.270
  • UNDERSTANDING MY MOTIVE FOR
  • 00:16:52.270 --> 00:16:54.060
  • WRITING THE BOOK.
  • 00:16:54.060 --> 00:16:56.260
  • I'M TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO SEE
  • 00:16:56.260 --> 00:16:58.000
  • SIN'S A DEVASTATING THING.
  • 00:16:59.090 --> 00:17:02.110
  • IT'S A KILLER.
  • 00:17:02.110 --> 00:17:03.120
  • I'VE BEEN THERE.
  • 00:17:03.120 --> 00:17:05.000
  • I DIDN'T REALIZE I WAS UNDER THE
  • 00:17:06.160 --> 00:17:09.160
  • CONTROL OF THE EVIL ONE TILL
  • 00:17:09.160 --> 00:17:12.130
  • JESUS GOT ME OUT FROM UNDER THE
  • 00:17:12.130 --> 00:17:14.230
  • CONTROL OF THE EVIL ONE.
  • 00:17:14.230 --> 00:17:16.100
  • THEN I LOOKED BACK AND SAID,
  • 00:17:16.100 --> 00:17:17.000
  • "WHAT WAS I THINKING?
  • 00:17:17.000 --> 00:17:19.160
  • WHAT WAS I THINKING?"
  • 00:17:19.160 --> 00:17:20.130
  • - ERIC: WELL, SEE, BUT WHEN YOU
  • 00:17:20.130 --> 00:17:21.240
  • HAVE THAT POINT OF VIEW, WHICH
  • 00:17:21.240 --> 00:17:23.060
  • WE BOTH DO, YOU HAVE MERCY FOR
  • 00:17:23.060 --> 00:17:25.060
  • THOSE WHO DON'T GET IT BECAUSE
  • 00:17:25.100 --> 00:17:28.100
  • YOU REALIZE TO BE A SINNER IS TO
  • 00:17:28.100 --> 00:17:30.220
  • SIN.
  • 00:17:30.220 --> 00:17:31.270
  • YOU'RE NOT A SINNER BECAUSE YOU
  • 00:17:31.270 --> 00:17:32.260
  • SIN.
  • 00:17:32.260 --> 00:17:33.240
  • YOU SIN BECAUSE YOU'RE A SINNER.
  • 00:17:33.240 --> 00:17:36.060
  • AND SO APART FROM GOD BREAKING
  • 00:17:36.060 --> 00:17:38.060
  • THROUGH SOMEHOW, WE ARE ALL
  • 00:17:38.060 --> 00:17:39.180
  • LOST, RIGHT?
  • 00:17:39.180 --> 00:17:41.130
  • - PHIL: THAT'S IT.
  • 00:17:41.130 --> 00:17:41.290
  • - ERIC: AND YOU KNOW BECAUSE
  • 00:17:41.290 --> 00:17:42.200
  • YOU WERE LOST.
  • 00:17:42.200 --> 00:17:43.160
  • - PHIL: OH, YEAH.
  • 00:17:43.160 --> 00:17:44.010
  • - ERIC: AND, IN FACT, DO YOU
  • 00:17:44.010 --> 00:17:45.060
  • MIND-- I MEAN, THIS BOOK IS SO
  • 00:17:45.060 --> 00:17:46.120
  • FANTASTIC, BUT I WANT FOR PEOPLE
  • 00:17:46.120 --> 00:17:47.180
  • WHO DON'T KNOW YOUR STORY--
  • 00:17:47.180 --> 00:17:48.160
  • MAYBE THEY'VE SEEN YOUR FACE
  • 00:17:48.160 --> 00:17:49.290
  • HERE AND THERE-- YOUR STORY, YOU
  • 00:17:49.290 --> 00:17:52.060
  • WERE NOT ALWAYS THE WAY YOU ARE
  • 00:17:52.060 --> 00:17:52.280
  • NOW.
  • 00:17:52.280 --> 00:17:53.240
  • - PHIL: NOT AT ALL.
  • 00:17:53.240 --> 00:17:55.240
  • - ERIC: OKAY, SO YOU MET YOUR
  • 00:17:55.240 --> 00:17:57.260
  • WIFE, MISS KAY-- NOW WHAT IS
  • 00:17:57.260 --> 00:18:00.070
  • SHE?
  • 00:18:00.070 --> 00:18:01.030
  • WIFE NUMBER FOUR?
  • 00:18:01.030 --> 00:18:01.200
  • I CAN'T REMEMBER.
  • 00:18:01.200 --> 00:18:02.170
  • - PHIL: NUMBER ONE.
  • 00:18:02.170 --> 00:18:04.040
  • - ERIC: I KNOW.
  • 00:18:04.040 --> 00:18:04.210
  • THAT WAS A JOKE.
  • 00:18:04.210 --> 00:18:05.180
  • SHE'S BEEN YOUR WIFE FOR A LONG
  • 00:18:05.180 --> 00:18:06.100
  • TIME.
  • 00:18:06.100 --> 00:18:06.190
  • HOW LONG'S SHE BEEN YOUR WIFE?
  • 00:18:06.190 --> 00:18:07.100
  • - PHIL: SHE'S BEEN MY WIFE--
  • 00:18:07.100 --> 00:18:08.220
  • LET'S SEE.
  • 00:18:08.220 --> 00:18:10.210
  • SHE WALKED ME OFF THE FOOTBALL
  • 00:18:10.210 --> 00:18:11.210
  • FIELD AS-- THAT'S HOW YOU
  • 00:18:11.210 --> 00:18:14.160
  • STARTED DATING IN THOSE DAYS.
  • 00:18:14.160 --> 00:18:15.240
  • IF YOU GET WALKED OFF THE
  • 00:18:15.240 --> 00:18:16.210
  • FOOTBALL FIELD, SOMETHING'S
  • 00:18:16.210 --> 00:18:17.140
  • HAPPENIN' THERE.
  • 00:18:17.140 --> 00:18:19.180
  • THAT WAS THE SIGN.
  • 00:18:19.180 --> 00:18:21.220
  • SO WALKIN' YOU OFF THE FIELD
  • 00:18:21.220 --> 00:18:23.100
  • MEANT WE FIXIN' TO START
  • 00:18:23.100 --> 00:18:25.040
  • CHECKIN' EACH OTHER OUT.
  • 00:18:25.040 --> 00:18:25.290
  • SO THAT WAS WHEN SHE WAS 14, AND
  • 00:18:25.290 --> 00:18:27.110
  • SHE'S NOW ABOUT 70.
  • 00:18:29.100 --> 00:18:32.100
  • - ERIC: ALL RIGHT, SO LET'S SAY
  • 00:18:32.100 --> 00:18:33.030
  • 50 YEARS AGO, ROUGHLY.
  • 00:18:33.030 --> 00:18:35.070
  • - PHIL: SHE WAS A PATIENT WOMAN
  • 00:18:35.070 --> 00:18:36.180
  • WAITING ON ME, ERIC, TO REPENT.
  • 00:18:38.050 --> 00:18:41.050
  • SHE SAID, "I'LL WAIT TILL HE
  • 00:18:41.050 --> 00:18:41.250
  • REPENTS."
  • 00:18:41.250 --> 00:18:42.240
  • - ERIC: IS THAT TRUE?
  • 00:18:42.240 --> 00:18:43.110
  • - PHIL: THAT'S TRUE.
  • 00:18:43.110 --> 00:18:44.090
  • THAT'S WHAT SHE--
  • 00:18:44.090 --> 00:18:45.070
  • - ERIC: THAT'S A WOMAN OF
  • 00:18:45.070 --> 00:18:45.260
  • FAITH.
  • 00:18:45.260 --> 00:18:46.050
  • - PHIL: HER GRANDMOTHER TOLD
  • 00:18:46.050 --> 00:18:46.260
  • SAID, "YOU MAY HAVE TO FIGHT FOR
  • 00:18:49.040 --> 00:18:49.260
  • YOUR MARRIAGE.
  • 00:18:49.260 --> 00:18:50.120
  • DON'T FORGET THAT."
  • 00:18:50.120 --> 00:18:51.000
  • SO WHEN THE DAY CAME,
  • 00:18:51.000 --> 00:18:52.070
  • BOY, SHE HAD TO FIGHT FOR IT.
  • 00:18:52.070 --> 00:18:53.100
  • SHE SAYS, "OKAY."
  • 00:18:53.100 --> 00:18:54.250
  • WAITED FOR ME TO REPENT."
  • 00:18:56.140 --> 00:18:57.270
  • SINCE THAT TIME, I SAID,
  • 00:18:57.270 --> 00:18:59.090
  • "WELL, BUT YOU DID END UP
  • 00:18:59.090 --> 00:19:00.180
  • WITH THAT LONG GREEN IN YOUR
  • 00:19:00.180 --> 00:19:02.130
  • POCKET, RIGHT?
  • 00:19:02.130 --> 00:19:05.030
  • YOU DID END UP--
  • 00:19:05.030 --> 00:19:06.040
  • IT WAS POSITIVE.
  • 00:19:06.040 --> 00:19:07.130
  • SHE SAID, "YOU ARE CORRECT, BUT
  • 00:19:07.130 --> 00:19:08.050
  • I WAS WONDERING WHETHER IT WAS
  • 00:19:08.050 --> 00:19:09.290
  • WORTH IT OR NOT, JUST-- WAIT ON
  • 00:19:09.290 --> 00:19:12.010
  • YOU, MY FRIEND."
  • 00:19:12.010 --> 00:19:12.200
  • - ERIC: NOW, YOU PLAYED
  • 00:19:12.200 --> 00:19:13.270
  • FOOTBALL.
  • 00:19:13.270 --> 00:19:14.150
  • TELL US ABOUT THAT.
  • 00:19:14.150 --> 00:19:16.140
  • WHERE DID YOU PLAY FOOTBALL IN
  • 00:19:16.140 --> 00:19:17.070
  • COLLEGE?
  • 00:19:17.070 --> 00:19:17.220
  • - PHIL: LOUISIANA TECH.
  • 00:19:17.220 --> 00:19:18.230
  • BY THE WAY, I STARTED PLAYIN'
  • 00:19:18.230 --> 00:19:20.290
  • FOOTBALL IN THE THIRD GRADE, AND
  • 00:19:20.290 --> 00:19:23.160
  • THEY SAID, "BASED ON HOW PEOPLE
  • 00:19:24.050 --> 00:19:27.050
  • WERE THROWING THE BALL," THEY
  • 00:19:27.050 --> 00:19:28.070
  • SAID, "THAT LITTLE KID RIGHT
  • 00:19:28.070 --> 00:19:29.130
  • THERE CAN THROW A FOOTBALL."
  • 00:19:29.130 --> 00:19:31.040
  • SO FROM THE THIRD GRADE
  • 00:19:31.040 --> 00:19:32.210
  • THROUGH FOUR YEARS IN COLLEGE,
  • 00:19:32.210 --> 00:19:34.110
  • I REDSHIRTED MY FIRST YEAR.
  • 00:19:34.110 --> 00:19:35.240
  • I COULD'VE PLAYED ONE LAST YEAR,
  • 00:19:35.240 --> 00:19:37.160
  • BUT I HAD LOOKED AT THE GAME
  • 00:19:37.160 --> 00:19:40.080
  • ITSELF, AND I SAID, "YOU KNOW
  • 00:19:40.080 --> 00:19:40.290
  • WHAT?
  • 00:19:40.290 --> 00:19:41.270
  • THEY'RE TAKIN' THIS FAR MORE
  • 00:19:43.250 --> 00:19:46.250
  • SERIOUSLY THAN I AM."
  • 00:19:46.250 --> 00:19:48.030
  • - ERIC: WHO WERE YOUR
  • 00:19:48.030 --> 00:19:48.230
  • COLLEAGUES AT THAT TIME?
  • 00:19:48.230 --> 00:19:50.100
  • WHEN YOU DECIDED TO STEP ASIDE,
  • 00:19:50.100 --> 00:19:51.230
  • WHO WAS THE SECOND-STRING
  • 00:19:51.230 --> 00:19:52.120
  • QUARTERBACK?
  • 00:19:52.120 --> 00:19:54.080
  • - PHIL: A GUY BY THE NAME OF
  • 00:19:54.080 --> 00:19:54.290
  • TERRY BRADSHAW.
  • 00:19:54.290 --> 00:19:56.100
  • - ERIC: NEVER HEARD OF HIM.
  • 00:19:56.100 --> 00:19:57.000
  • - PHIL: YOU'VE HEARD OF HIM,
  • 00:19:57.000 --> 00:19:57.210
  • MAYBE.
  • 00:19:57.210 --> 00:19:58.010
  • HE WAS PLAYIN' SECOND STRING, SO
  • 00:19:58.010 --> 00:20:00.000
  • I WENT IN THE LOCKER ROOM.
  • 00:20:00.000 --> 00:20:00.270
  • I SAT DOWN WITH HIM, AND I SAID,
  • 00:20:00.270 --> 00:20:02.000
  • "LISTEN, BRADSHAW, I'VE COME TO
  • 00:20:02.000 --> 00:20:04.020
  • A CONCLUSION.
  • 00:20:04.020 --> 00:20:05.020
  • I'M GONNA STEP OUT.
  • 00:20:05.020 --> 00:20:07.210
  • THEREFORE, YOU'RE GOING TO STEP
  • 00:20:07.210 --> 00:20:09.120
  • UP 'CAUSE, RIGHT NOW, YOU'RE
  • 00:20:09.120 --> 00:20:10.250
  • BELOW ME."
  • 00:20:10.250 --> 00:20:12.280
  • I SAID, "I'M GONNA STEP OUT.
  • 00:20:12.280 --> 00:20:13.180
  • YOU STEP IN."
  • 00:20:13.180 --> 00:20:15.250
  • AND I SAID, "I KNOW YOU
  • 00:20:15.250 --> 00:20:18.040
  • WANNA PLAY PRO FOOTBALL.
  • 00:20:18.040 --> 00:20:19.050
  • I SAY, 'GOOD LUCK TO YOU.'
  • 00:20:19.050 --> 00:20:20.260
  • I'M GONNA CHASE DUCKS.
  • 00:20:20.270 --> 00:20:23.270
  • YOU'RE GOING TO START A
  • 00:20:23.270 --> 00:20:26.250
  • LIFESTYLE WHEREBY LARGE VIOLENT
  • 00:20:26.250 --> 00:20:29.090
  • MEN CHASE YOU."
  • 00:20:29.090 --> 00:20:30.210
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:20:30.210 --> 00:20:31.200
  • I SAID, "I JUST LOOKED AT IT
  • 00:20:31.200 --> 00:20:32.100
  • LOGICALLY AND SAID,
  • 00:20:32.100 --> 00:20:33.040
  • 'YOU KNOW--'"
  • 00:20:33.040 --> 00:20:33.270
  • - ERIC: I THINK YOU TOOK THE
  • 00:20:33.270 --> 00:20:35.000
  • BETTER PART OF THAT BARGAIN.
  • 00:20:35.000 --> 00:20:35.250
  • ' BUT YOU DID NOT MEET GOD UNTIL
  • 00:20:35.250 --> 00:20:38.050
  • SOMETIME ALONG THAT ROAD?
  • 00:20:38.060 --> 00:20:41.060
  • - PHIL: TWENTY-EIGHT.
  • 00:20:41.060 --> 00:20:41.240
  • - ERIC: OKAY, SO YOU WERE 28
  • 00:20:41.240 --> 00:20:42.210
  • YEARS OLD, SO THAT'S A WAYS
  • 00:20:42.210 --> 00:20:43.210
  • YOU'VE BEEN MARRIED FOR SOME
  • 00:20:47.040 --> 00:20:47.240
  • TIME, AND THE LITTLE WOMAN IN
  • 00:20:47.240 --> 00:20:48.150
  • THE OTHER ROOM THERE PUT UP WITH
  • 00:20:48.150 --> 00:20:49.070
  • SOME UGLY STUFF AND PRAYED FOR
  • 00:20:49.070 --> 00:20:50.050
  • - PHIL: YUP.
  • 00:20:55.000 --> 00:20:55.280
  • - ERIC: WHAT WAS IT THAT MADE
  • 00:20:55.280 --> 00:20:56.220
  • YOU SAY-- 'CAUSE YOU'RE A REBEL
  • 00:20:56.220 --> 00:20:58.220
  • AT HEART.
  • 00:20:58.220 --> 00:21:00.150
  • I CAN SEE IT.
  • 00:21:00.150 --> 00:21:01.150
  • SOMETHING MADE YOU SAY, "ENOUGH.
  • 00:21:01.150 --> 00:21:04.150
  • I'M GONNA GIVE MY HEART TO THE
  • 00:21:04.150 --> 00:21:06.030
  • GOD OF THE BIBLE."
  • 00:21:06.030 --> 00:21:07.070
  • WHAT WAS THAT MOMENT?
  • 00:21:07.100 --> 00:21:10.100
  • - PHIL: WHEN I LOOK BACK-- AND,
  • 00:21:10.100 --> 00:21:12.100
  • BY THE WAY, MOST PEOPLE I'VE
  • 00:21:12.100 --> 00:21:13.070
  • CONVERTED, WHICH HAS BEEN A LOT,
  • 00:21:13.070 --> 00:21:15.180
  • MOST OF 'EM ARE BETWEEN 26, 27,
  • 00:21:15.180 --> 00:21:18.110
  • AND 30, 31.
  • 00:21:18.160 --> 00:21:21.160
  • WELL, I NOTICED THAT, AND I
  • 00:21:21.160 --> 00:21:23.210
  • THOUGHT, "I WONDER WHY THEY'RE
  • 00:21:23.210 --> 00:21:25.010
  • ALL ABOUT THE SAME AGE, THE BULK
  • 00:21:25.010 --> 00:21:26.110
  • OF 'EM?"
  • 00:21:26.110 --> 00:21:27.280
  • I SAID, "WHAT DOES IT MEAN?"
  • 00:21:27.280 --> 00:21:30.240
  • WHAT IT MEANS IS, AND WHAT I
  • 00:21:30.240 --> 00:21:32.130
  • BELIEVE TO BE TRUE-- I DON'T
  • 00:21:32.130 --> 00:21:34.140
  • KNOW THIS.
  • 00:21:34.140 --> 00:21:36.110
  • I'M, JUST-- I BELIEVE THIS TO BE
  • 00:21:36.110 --> 00:21:38.010
  • TRUE: BY THE TIME YOU HIT ABOUT
  • 00:21:38.010 --> 00:21:38.230
  • 28, YOU'VE ESTABLISHED A TRACK
  • 00:21:38.230 --> 00:21:40.180
  • RECORD OF EITHER PRETTY BAD OR
  • 00:21:40.180 --> 00:21:42.290
  • PRETTY GOOD, AND BY THAT TIME,
  • 00:21:43.080 --> 00:21:46.080
  • IF IT'S A TERRIBLE TRACK RECORD,
  • 00:21:46.080 --> 00:21:48.060
  • YOU AT LEAST HAVE SOMETHIN',
  • 00:21:48.060 --> 00:21:50.110
  • SOME-- A RECORD TO LOOK AT, AND
  • 00:21:53.120 --> 00:21:56.120
  • YOU SAY, "HMM."
  • 00:21:56.120 --> 00:21:57.190
  • WELL, IT WAS ABOUT THAT TIME
  • 00:21:57.190 --> 00:21:58.210
  • I LOOKED BACK AND SAID,
  • 00:21:58.210 --> 00:22:00.150
  • "WHAT AM I DOIN' LIKE A
  • 00:22:00.150 --> 00:22:01.180
  • DOG CHASIN' HIS TAIL?"
  • 00:22:01.180 --> 00:22:02.110
  • SEE, ROUND AND ROUND WE GO.
  • 00:22:02.110 --> 00:22:03.130
  • RAN THE WOMAN OFF, RAN THE KIDS
  • 00:22:03.130 --> 00:22:05.030
  • OFF, AND I SAID, "WHAT AM I
  • 00:22:05.030 --> 00:22:06.140
  • DOIN'?"
  • 00:22:06.140 --> 00:22:07.280
  • - ERIC: SO YOU DID RUN-- I
  • 00:22:07.280 --> 00:22:08.180
  • REMEMBER THE STORY.
  • 00:22:08.180 --> 00:22:09.150
  • YOUR MISS KAY LEFT YOU BECAUSE
  • 00:22:09.150 --> 00:22:11.250
  • SHE COULDN'T TAKE IT NO MORE,
  • 00:22:11.250 --> 00:22:12.250
  • AND YOU SUDDENLY WOKE UP:
  • 00:22:12.250 --> 00:22:14.180
  • "WHAT HAVE I DONE?"
  • 00:22:14.180 --> 00:22:16.010
  • - PHIL: I WAS A MEAN MAN, SO
  • 00:22:16.010 --> 00:22:19.010
  • WHEN I HEARD THE GOSPEL-- WHEN I
  • 00:22:19.010 --> 00:22:20.140
  • ASK BY THE GUY WHO STUDIED WITH
  • 00:22:20.200 --> 00:22:23.200
  • ME-- WHEN HE SAID, "PHIL, IF I
  • 00:22:23.200 --> 00:22:25.100
  • SAY THE WORD 'GOSPEL' TO YOU,
  • 00:22:25.100 --> 00:22:26.260
  • WHAT COMES TO YOUR MIND?"
  • 00:22:26.260 --> 00:22:29.170
  • AND I SAID, "GOSPEL MUSIC ON THE
  • 00:22:29.170 --> 00:22:32.050
  • RADIO."
  • 00:22:32.050 --> 00:22:32.230
  • HE SAID, "NO, I'M SERIOUS."
  • 00:22:32.230 --> 00:22:34.100
  • I SAID, "I AM TOO.
  • 00:22:34.100 --> 00:22:36.080
  • GOSPEL MUSIC?"
  • 00:22:36.080 --> 00:22:37.160
  • HE SAID, "YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW
  • 00:22:37.160 --> 00:22:39.260
  • WHAT IT IS?"
  • 00:22:40.040 --> 00:22:43.040
  • WHEN HE TELLS ME, THAT WAS WHEN
  • 00:22:43.040 --> 00:22:44.200
  • GOD BECAME FLESH, DIED ON A
  • 00:22:44.200 --> 00:22:46.020
  • CROSS TO REMOVE EVERY SIN I'D
  • 00:22:46.020 --> 00:22:48.090
  • EVER COMMITTED, AND THREE DAYS
  • 00:22:48.090 --> 00:22:51.070
  • LATER, HE WAS RAISED FROM THE
  • 00:22:51.070 --> 00:22:53.170
  • DEAD, GUARANTEEING I CAN BE
  • 00:22:53.170 --> 00:22:54.220
  • RAISED FROM THE DEAD.
  • 00:22:54.220 --> 00:22:56.170
  • AS THE APOSTLE PAUL PUT IT, IF
  • 00:22:56.170 --> 00:22:58.010
  • THERE'S NO RESURRECTION, WE'RE
  • 00:22:58.010 --> 00:22:59.120
  • TO BE PITIED.
  • 00:22:59.120 --> 00:23:00.150
  • IF HE CAN'T GET US OUT OF THE
  • 00:23:00.150 --> 00:23:02.020
  • GROUND, WHAT GOOD WOULD IT DO TO
  • 00:23:02.020 --> 00:23:02.250
  • REMOVE OUR SIN?
  • 00:23:02.250 --> 00:23:04.110
  • SO WHEN I SAW THAT FOR THE FIRST
  • 00:23:04.110 --> 00:23:06.200
  • TIME, I SAID AUDIBLY, "HOW IN
  • 00:23:06.200 --> 00:23:08.140
  • THE WORLD DID I EVER MISS THAT?"
  • 00:23:08.190 --> 00:23:11.190
  • I HAVE TWO DEGREES FROM
  • 00:23:11.190 --> 00:23:12.290
  • LOUISIANA TECH UNIVERSITY.
  • 00:23:12.290 --> 00:23:14.090
  • I WENT TO CHURCH WHEN I-- HOW
  • 00:23:14.090 --> 00:23:16.200
  • DID I MISS THAT?
  • 00:23:17.180 --> 00:23:20.180
  • BUT, ERIC, I HAD MISSED IT, AND
  • 00:23:20.180 --> 00:23:21.250
  • SO HAVE A MIGHTY THRONG RUNNIN'
  • 00:23:21.280 --> 00:23:24.280
  • AROUND IN THE UNITED STATES.
  • 00:23:24.280 --> 00:23:27.190
  • I KEEP ASKIN' 'EM OVER AND OVER,
  • 00:23:27.190 --> 00:23:28.270
  • "DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE GOSPEL
  • 00:23:28.270 --> 00:23:29.200
  • IS?"
  • 00:23:29.200 --> 00:23:30.070
  • AND THEY'LL TELL ME EVERYTHING
  • 00:23:30.070 --> 00:23:31.140
  • BUT THE GOSPEL.
  • 00:23:31.140 --> 00:23:32.250
  • THEY'LL SAY, "THE TEN
  • 00:23:32.250 --> 00:23:34.150
  • COMMANDMENTS," "IT'S MATTHEW,
  • 00:23:34.150 --> 00:23:36.070
  • MARK, LUKE, AND JOHN."
  • 00:23:36.070 --> 00:23:38.100
  • I SAID,
  • 00:23:38.100 --> 00:23:38.260
  • "WHAT ABOUT MATTHEW, MARK, LUKE?
  • 00:23:38.260 --> 00:23:39.180
  • WHAT'S IN THOSE?"
  • 00:23:39.180 --> 00:23:40.090
  • THEY DON'T KNOW THAT JESUS DIED
  • 00:23:40.090 --> 00:23:41.170
  • FOR 'EM, WAS BURIED AND RAISED
  • 00:23:41.170 --> 00:23:43.030
  • FROM THE DEAD.
  • 00:23:43.030 --> 00:23:44.150
  • THEY'LL GIVE YOU ALL KIND OF
  • 00:23:44.150 --> 00:23:45.110
  • ANSWERS, BUT NOT THAT ONE.
  • 00:23:45.110 --> 00:23:46.210
  • - ERIC: WELL, I WAS ONE OF
  • 00:23:46.210 --> 00:23:47.110
  • THOSE PEOPLE.
  • 00:23:47.110 --> 00:23:47.240
  • - PHIL: YEAH.
  • 00:23:47.240 --> 00:23:48.070
  • - ERIC: I MEAN, I GET IT, OKAY?
  • 00:23:48.070 --> 00:23:49.100
  • I WENT TO CHURCH MY WHOLE LIFE.
  • 00:23:49.140 --> 00:23:52.140
  • I WAS AN ALTAR BOY, BUT IF YOU
  • 00:23:52.140 --> 00:23:55.030
  • TALKED TO ME WHEN I WAS IN
  • 00:23:55.030 --> 00:23:56.120
  • COLLEGE OR AFTER COLLEGE, I
  • 00:23:56.120 --> 00:23:59.050
  • NEVER HEARD THIS.
  • 00:23:59.050 --> 00:24:00.270
  • I DIDN'T GET IT.
  • 00:24:00.270 --> 00:24:02.060
  • - PHIL: ME EITHER.
  • 00:24:02.060 --> 00:24:02.250
  • - ERIC: I DIDN'T GET IT, AND I
  • 00:24:02.250 --> 00:24:04.050
  • THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF
  • 00:24:04.050 --> 00:24:04.240
  • PEOPLE-- AND THIS IS THE GOOD
  • 00:24:04.240 --> 00:24:06.030
  • NEWS.
  • 00:24:06.030 --> 00:24:06.180
  • I THINK THERE ARE TONS OF PEOPLE
  • 00:24:06.180 --> 00:24:08.070
  • WHO REJECT SOMETHING THAT IS NOT
  • 00:24:08.070 --> 00:24:10.060
  • JESUS.
  • 00:24:10.110 --> 00:24:13.110
  • THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE
  • 00:24:13.110 --> 00:24:14.010
  • REJECTING.
  • 00:24:14.010 --> 00:24:15.150
  • THEY'RE REJECTING SOME FALSE
  • 00:24:15.150 --> 00:24:17.030
  • IDEA, SOME OPPRESSIVE IDEA OF A
  • 00:24:17.030 --> 00:24:19.160
  • GOD THAT HATES THEM AND DOESN'T
  • 00:24:19.160 --> 00:24:21.030
  • WANT THEM TO HAVE FUN OR
  • 00:24:21.030 --> 00:24:21.210
  • WHATEVER.
  • 00:24:21.210 --> 00:24:22.030
  • I REJECT THAT GOD TOO, AND SO DO
  • 00:24:22.030 --> 00:24:23.150
  • YOU.
  • 00:24:23.150 --> 00:24:24.110
  • WE ACCEPT THE GOD WHO LOVES US
  • 00:24:24.110 --> 00:24:25.270
  • AND WHO WISHES US MORE THAN A
  • 00:24:25.270 --> 00:24:28.140
  • WONDERFUL LIFE.
  • 00:24:28.140 --> 00:24:30.100
  • - PHIL: THAT'S CORRECT.
  • 00:24:30.100 --> 00:24:30.280
  • SOME PEOPLE HAVE CHARGED THAT
  • 00:24:30.280 --> 00:24:32.060
  • I'M TOO BLUNT WITH 'EM ABOUT
  • 00:24:32.060 --> 00:24:33.280
  • THEIR SIN.
  • 00:24:33.280 --> 00:24:36.030
  • WHAT THEY DON'T REALIZE, ERIC,
  • 00:24:36.030 --> 00:24:36.240
  • I'M TRYING TO, AT LEAST, REMIND
  • 00:24:36.240 --> 00:24:39.060
  • THEM THAT OUR SINS BRING US DOWN
  • 00:24:40.070 --> 00:24:43.070
  • INTO THE DEPTHS OF HELL, AND I'M
  • 00:24:43.070 --> 00:24:44.040
  • TRYIN' TO REMIND THEM, "IF YOU
  • 00:24:44.040 --> 00:24:45.070
  • DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND HOW BAD
  • 00:24:45.070 --> 00:24:47.230
  • THE BAD NEWS IS, YOU GOT
  • 00:24:47.230 --> 00:24:49.220
  • PHYSICAL DEATH COMIN' ALONG, AND
  • 00:24:49.220 --> 00:24:51.010
  • YOU DIE PHYSICALLY, A HEART
  • 00:24:51.010 --> 00:24:53.220
  • ATTACK, CANCER, CAR WRECK, AND
  • 00:24:53.220 --> 00:24:55.050
  • YOU'RE DEAD IN YOUR SIN, I SAID,
  • 00:24:55.190 --> 00:24:58.190
  • "THERE'S NO COMIN' BACK."
  • 00:24:58.190 --> 00:24:59.080
  • I SAID, "I'M TRYIN'
  • 00:24:59.080 --> 00:24:59.240
  • TO GET YOU THE BAD NEWS
  • 00:24:59.240 --> 00:25:02.020
  • FIRST SO YOU WOULD
  • 00:25:02.020 --> 00:25:03.060
  • APPRECIATE THE GOOD NEWS."
  • 00:25:03.060 --> 00:25:06.030
  • SO YOU HAVE TO TELL PEOPLE,
  • 00:25:06.030 --> 00:25:08.230
  • "LOOK, TELL ME ABOUT YOUR LIFE.
  • 00:25:08.230 --> 00:25:10.130
  • HOW IS IT GOIN' FOR YA?"
  • 00:25:10.130 --> 00:25:11.250
  • AND WHEN THEY START SAYIN',
  • 00:25:11.250 --> 00:25:14.040
  • "WELL, I'M GETTIN' HIGH, I
  • 00:25:14.040 --> 00:25:14.290
  • GETTIN' LAID
  • 00:25:14.290 --> 00:25:15.290
  • AND GETTIN' DRUNK,"
  • 00:25:15.290 --> 00:25:16.170
  • I SAID,
  • 00:25:16.170 --> 00:25:17.000
  • "HEY, I'M GUILTY AS CHARGED,
  • 00:25:17.000 --> 00:25:17.260
  • MYSELF, SO--" AND YOU GIVE 'EM
  • 00:25:17.260 --> 00:25:19.140
  • THE GOSPEL, AND IT'S THE ONLY
  • 00:25:19.240 --> 00:25:22.240
  • THING I'VE SEEN, BY THE WAY,
  • 00:25:22.240 --> 00:25:23.190
  • THAT WILL CHANGE PEOPLE'S
  • 00:25:23.190 --> 00:25:25.190
  • BEHAVIOR IS THE GOSPEL OF
  • 00:25:25.190 --> 00:25:27.070
  • JESUS CHRIST.
  • 00:25:27.070 --> 00:25:28.140
  • YOU KNOW, THE APOSTLE PAUL SAID,
  • 00:25:28.140 --> 00:25:30.190
  • "I'M NOT ASHAMED OF THE GOSPEL
  • 00:25:30.190 --> 00:25:32.070
  • BECAUSE IT," THE GOSPEL, "IS THE
  • 00:25:32.070 --> 00:25:33.230
  • POWER OF GOD FOR THE SALVATION
  • 00:25:33.230 --> 00:25:36.090
  • OF EVERYONE WHO BELIEVES."
  • 00:25:36.090 --> 00:25:37.280
  • - ERIC: FOLKS, THIS IS THE
  • 00:25:37.280 --> 00:25:38.180
  • BOOK.
  • 00:25:38.180 --> 00:25:39.030
  • PHIL ROBERTSON WROTE IT.
  • 00:25:39.030 --> 00:25:40.010
  • "THE THEFT OF AMERICA'S SOUL."
  • 00:25:40.010 --> 00:25:41.260
  • THIS IS SOMETHIN', I'M TELLING
  • 00:25:41.260 --> 00:25:44.180
  • YOU.
  • 00:25:44.180 --> 00:25:45.210
  • GET A COPY, "THE THEFT OF
  • 00:25:45.210 --> 00:25:46.290
  • AMERICA'S SOUL: BLOWING THE LID
  • 00:25:46.290 --> 00:25:48.230
  • OFF THE LIES THAT ARE DESTROYING
  • 00:25:48.230 --> 00:25:49.190
  • OUR COUNTRY."
  • 00:25:49.190 --> 00:25:50.130
  • PHIL ROBERTSON, MY FRIEND,
  • 00:25:50.130 --> 00:25:51.020
  • MY BROTHER, GOD BLESS YOU.
  • 00:25:51.020 --> 00:25:53.040
  • - STEVEN CURTIS CHAPMAN:
  • 00:26:03.270 --> 00:26:04.160
  • HALFWAY BETWEEN POSSUM TROT AND
  • 00:26:04.160 --> 00:26:05.120
  • MONKEY'S EYEBROW IS WHERE I COME
  • 00:26:05.120 --> 00:26:07.220
  • - ERIC: YOU GOTTA STOP.
  • 00:26:09.020 --> 00:26:09.210
  • YOU GOTTA STOP JOKIN' AROUND.
  • 00:26:09.210 --> 00:26:10.120
  • THESE ARE SERIOUS SHOW.
  • 00:26:10.120 --> 00:26:11.000
  • - STEVEN: I KNOW.
  • 00:26:11.000 --> 00:26:11.150
  • - ERIC: IT'S FUN.
  • 00:26:11.150 --> 00:26:12.000
  • I THINK "FUN" IS A BIBLICAL
  • 00:26:12.000 --> 00:26:12.200
  • VALUE.
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  • - VICTORIA OSTEEN: WELL,
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  • LAUGHTER SURE IS, ISN'T IT?
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