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Better Together | Free to Worship

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May 8, 2019
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Better Together | Free to Worship

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  • - What is worship?
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  • Immediately we think of music and hymns
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  • but worship is a powerful tool to freedom and breakthrough.
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  • Let's talk about it.
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  • (uplifting music)
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  • - You know the other day I was reading about Job and--
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  • - As you would.
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  • (laughter)
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  • - As I would, I love this book, honestly.
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  • I was thinking about the awe and wonder of suffering.
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  • I know that sounds like an oxymoron but,
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  • you know, you see everything's taken from him
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  • and he has the worse day of his life,
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  • like, a day that I will never wanna ever face
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  • and the first response to God is that he
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  • throws himself down in worship and he says,
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  • the Lord gives and the Lord takes away.
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  • Blessed be the name of the Lord.
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  • And something just grabbed me 'cause I was just like, wow,
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  • this for me is that experience of worship in pain--
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  • - Beautiful.
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  • That I've often said to people, when you worship
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  • in that moment, it's absolute kryptonite to the enemy.
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  • - Yeah.
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  • - And it's pure incense to the Father.
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  • Because you're saying God is good
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  • even amongst, - Wow.
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  • - The worst circumstance.
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  • Now I remember a time when we lost our baby at 16 weeks
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  • and Henry is a worship leader and he actually was
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  • due to go worship somewhere and he's like,
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  • no, I'll stay home with you and I said, no, I think
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  • you really need to do this, it's an important thing,
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  • said, I'll be fine and as he was driving to this
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  • event, he's like, God, why, like why?
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  • And then he just remembers the Father saying to him,
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  • don't, don't ask why, Henry, don't ask why.
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  • Fill the why with worship.
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  • - [Jenn] Beautiful.
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  • Because right now your son--
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  • - [Jenn] What a statement, wow.
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  • - Is worshiping around the throne.
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  • I want you to worship with him.
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  • And I think sometimes we, we only think worship is singing
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  • because we love Him or we just in the service
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  • and we do the three songs and I said,
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  • there's a part of worship that connects us
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  • to be intimate with the Father.
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  • Mostly for me, when I'm in my darkest hour.
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  • I don't know if that's--
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  • - Between Catherine and Sophia I had a miscarriage as well.
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  • But I had a pregnancy and we'd gone 13 weeks,
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  • I told everyone, I remember I had gone and I was with
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  • Joyce Meyer's like my spiritual mom you know,
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  • gone to see Mama Joyce and I flew home
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  • all excited you know and we had our Hillsong Conference
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  • and Joyce was coming for the conference.
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  • And so, she'd seen me, we're all excited,
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  • you know, Chris is having another baby,
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  • and I get home and I had an appointment to go
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  • to see the doctor and it was so rushed,
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  • we had a conference coming up, Joyce is coming, I'm hosting,
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  • doing all the stuff that we do.
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  • And I'll never forget lying on the bed
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  • and they're doing the test and you hear the words
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  • you don't wanna hear, missus Cane,
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  • we can't hear a heartbeat.
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  • And I said, well there must be wrong with your machine.
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  • I mean, it didn't even occur to me that,
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  • that, it didn't even pass my brain.
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  • Anyway, it happened and I had to wait a couple of days.
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  • Joyce flew in Sunday and I had gone into surgery that day.
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  • Came out and I said to Nick, we're gonna go pick her up
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  • and so we go straight to the airport,
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  • from the hospital to the airport.
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  • She comes, she's coming from the plane out through security
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  • and immediately puts her hand on my stomach,
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  • Chris our baby, how's our baby?
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  • Like not know, 'cause we're all like, the whole world knew.
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  • Okay, and so, I'm stuck in that moment
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  • and I mean, you could imagine, she's just so beautiful
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  • with that moment but we had the first night
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  • of the conference and it was when Matt
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  • had written that song. - Oh, wow.
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  • - You give and take away, you get blessed be.
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  • - Wow, yes. - okay.
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  • So I will never forget it and Joyce was gonna speak
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  • on Monday night and I'm in the front row
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  • I couldn't even sing right, like I'm just like,
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  • I'm just out, I still got the hospital band on my hand,
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  • and everyone's like, so you can imagine how many
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  • congratulations Chris I've had that day.
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  • All the way through the thing
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  • and I remember couldn't even say the words.
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  • And then I would just let it wash over me
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  • and then I don't know what happened
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  • and there's no natural explanation
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  • but over the course of that song
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  • I would begin mouthing just, you give and take away,
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  • you give and, I'm gonna cry now, you give and take away.
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  • - Yeah.
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  • - [Christine] But still my soul was saying, blessed be.
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  • - Wow.
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  • - And then in this instant, as supernatural
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  • as any supernatural encounter I had
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  • I can't explain it, Nick was standing next to me,
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  • Joyce was here, just, I mean, tears are streamin' down,
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  • my hands just went up and I mean, I'd gone from grief,
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  • it was like it lifted to a declaration, you give, you take.
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  • All I can say to you is
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  • I walked out a different human being.
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  • I don't know how to explain it.
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  • - So I think that's the currency of heaven.
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  • That raw worship of declaring who God is in those moments.
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  • I don't know if you guys have lost a baby,
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  • we've all lost children.
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  • I won't get into mine but I just remember.
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  • So I believe God can do whatever He wants to do.
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  • And to speak life into the baby inside your womb is,
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  • And to speak life into the baby inside your womb is,
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  • God can do it all, you know,
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  • but what do we do at those moments
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  • when we trust and when we're told to trust
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  • because we have such a small perspective
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  • and we don't have what God sees.
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  • And some things we'll just never,
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  • we're never gonna understand
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  • not till He tells us face-to-face.
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  • I lost two little boys in-between my two boys,
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  • Caylan and Cody and the first one I lost probably
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  • I think probably about 16, 18 weeks.
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  • The second one I was about 6 months with.
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  • And I just could not believe that (laughs)
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  • and I struggled between, do I just believe God
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  • that He restarts the heart in my baby,
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  • I mean, God can do anything right?
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  • Or do I let the doctors do their thing
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  • and take the baby out.
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  • So I went in one day, throwin' up,
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  • with all the pregnancy stuff and they told me that
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  • my baby had been dead for about a month.
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  • My body still thought I was pregnant.
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  • And so, now they started talking cancer
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  • and I was treated a little bit during that process
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  • but, you know, I just remember bein'
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  • blown away at the circumstances
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  • but knowing that God is a great, faithful God.
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  • And I have heard about Him before
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  • but during that time I saw Him just like Job did.
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  • I saw God and I think that the worship in those times,
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  • you know, I have had, I had an amazing experience
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  • about that, that I've shared before
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  • that that praise, that sacrifice of praise
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  • like Alex said, is the currency of heaven.
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  • That when we get to heaven, that's what our gift is
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  • to our Lord and Savior is worshiping Him
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  • through those times, through those struggles,
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  • through those painful, wilderness, horrible, suffering
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  • moments of our life, when we stood up
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  • and we said who God was at those moments
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  • and we worshiped anyway.
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  • I think that is such a powerful thing
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  • and if you can turn from your circumstances today
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  • you might have the world against you,
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  • you might feel in such despair today,
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  • but I'm telling you, you can make it
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  • and one way that you can make it
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  • is by throwing your hands up and saying,
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  • God, I know you know where I am today.
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  • I know you know my circumstances
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  • and I believe that you're watching over me
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  • and I believe that you're hand is on me
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  • and I believe that the Holy Spirit is here
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  • to help me, guide me through this time of my life.
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  • And I just pray that you're day is filled
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  • with the glory of God and that you feel His embrace today
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  • because He knows exactly where you are,
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  • He knows exactly what you're going through,
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  • and He's got what you need.
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  • All you need to do is turn your arms (laughs)
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  • towards heaven, towards Him
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  • because He's reaching out to you today.
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  • Just surround you, to hold you, and to help you today.
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  • No matter where you are, no matter what it is,
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  • He's got you babe.
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  • - I came from a religious background,
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  • a Greek Orthodox background where certainly I felt like
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  • you could not have access to God,
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  • you had to go through a Priest in order to get to God.
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  • So, for me it was very difficult in the first few years
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  • to actually understand that God was a gracious Father
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  • and that I could enter boldly into the throne room of God.
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  • I mean, it's one thing to sing about it,
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  • it was another thing to read about it in the book of Hebrews
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  • but to actually do it, to actually get to a place
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  • where I could boldly go into the throne room
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  • and just pour my heart out to God
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  • and understand that He was a Father that is for me,
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  • that wants to bless me, that Psalms 119 says,
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  • that He's good, He does good, and that He's gonna
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  • work all things together for my good and for His glory.
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  • You know, I can rattle that stuff off now
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  • and I really believe it, it took me a lot of years
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  • to get there but to get there has been the single
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  • most liberating thing in my life.
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  • - We want you to join the conversation.
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  • Follow us on social media and let's get better together.
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  • - Bill, my father-in-law, has this one-liner
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  • but I will butcher it because he's Bill
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  • and says it so beautifully.
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  • (hearty laughter)
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  • - I do that to everybody!
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  • (hearty laughter)
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  • - I'm like, Bill says it way cooler.
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  • But it's something to the effect of
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  • we will offer God worship on this planet
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  • in sorrow and loss in a way that is sacrificial
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  • that we'll never offer that to Him in heaven
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  • 'cause that won't be there.
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  • We actually have the opportunity to give Him worship
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  • that we never will be able to in heaven.
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  • - That's the sacrifice, the present, the enemy hates.
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  • - [Christine] Right, you're right.
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  • - He hates it because we're saying your good
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  • even though circumstances are bad
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  • and you're right, we teach,
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  • we have to teach heaven how to worship on this side
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  • because they don't have anything in lacking.
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  • - But you notice that it's normally,
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  • it's through the hard times.
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  • - [Alex] That's right.
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  • - It's through the valleys, it's through the struggles,
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  • it's through the pain,
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  • - [Jenn] It is.
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  • - That that worship comes forth.
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  • - I think suffering, it's not something
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  • that's always taught, to view your suffering.
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  • The sacredness of suffering.
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  • So many people around the world, you know,
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  • if I could say it this way, I think sometimes in the U.S.
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  • We're a little spoiled to where we're a little indulgent.
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  • We don't understand the deepness of suffering.
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  • I think in measures and degrees, as far as,
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  • in our own personal lives we've experienced it
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  • either in, if you've walked through a process of
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  • abuse or healing or infertility, a loss of a family member.
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  • - Yes.
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  • - Through some tragedy or trauma and even in that
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  • that God would see fit to see that as sacred
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  • and He says it's like incense, like filling bowls in heaven.
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  • Such an imagery that if you could put
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  • more incense into that bowl it begins to tip over
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  • and just that imagery, it's such a sacred thing
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  • in front of Him and it's incense in His nostrils
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  • and He remembers, even in Psalms he talks about
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  • that He holds all of our tears in a bottle
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  • and He remembers each tear.
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  • And so, even with all of the saints of old,
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  • what we can see the weight of their lives
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  • through suffering, Job, perfect example.
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  • And to be blessed at the end.
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  • - That's right.
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  • - I would say, in every major crisis in my life
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  • as well as every major praise point
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  • worship, proactively choosing songs of worship
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  • and to enter into the presence of the Lord,
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  • to raise my hands has been a deeply
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  • liberating experience in my life.
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  • You know, from the time I had a miscarriage
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  • to healing from my past abuse,
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  • when I was diagnosed with cancer,
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  • one of the first things that I did was
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  • go to church and go to a church service
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  • so that I could enter into worship
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  • because this is what happens,
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  • the Bible says that, the Psalms says, magnify the Lord.
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  • That means make God bigger, to magnify is to make bigger.
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  • So what I do, you can't make God any bigger.
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  • God is omnipotent, God is omniscient,
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  • God is omnipresent, God is as big as He's ever going to be.
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  • But here is the deal, when a challenge comes in our life,
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  • a problem comes in our life, a situation comes in our life
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  • that really rocks our world, like a cancer diagnoses,
  • 00:13:22.150 --> 00:13:26.110
  • like a miscarriage, I mean, tragedy, the loss of
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  • a family member or a friend, just stuff
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  • that really rocks your world, that thing becomes big,
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  • that thing is your all consuming thing,
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  • it's all you can think about, it takes up all the space
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  • in your heart, in your mind, it's all you see.
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  • So you have to get in an environment
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  • where you begin to make God bigger than your circumstance,
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  • you make God bigger than the report that you got.
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  • You make God bigger than the bad news that you got.
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  • You make God bigger than the disappointment.
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  • You make God bigger than the discouragement.
  • 00:13:59.110 --> 00:14:01.210
  • And the way you make God bigger
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  • is by beginning to declare who He is through worship.
  • 00:14:03.160 --> 00:14:07.210
  • - In all throughout the Bible you watch
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  • Abraham sacrifice in worship and that's worship to God.
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  • He brought his son which obviously is a beautiful picture,
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  • a pretty picture of what God did with the father.
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  • I think that's when they became best friends
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  • because they identified, I'm about to do this with Jesus,
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  • you're understanding what this means,
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  • we've just connected on a level.
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  • And there's worship given at that moment
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  • David goes on the threshing floor and says,
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  • I will not build an alter on something that hasn't cost me.
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  • I think worship is costly.
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  • I don't think it's in the ah-ha.
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  • I think it must be costly because what we're doing
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  • is we're putting God in His rightful place.
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  • And we're saying, you are God, I am not.
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  • The fact that He's given us salvation,
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  • we don't need anymore, He's already given us
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  • more than enough, like, everything's a bonus
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  • so we worship from that place.
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  • God, you died for me, I will choose to live for you
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  • whether it's in the back blocks or in the high tops,
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  • towers, you know, it doesn't matter, favor ain't fair,
  • 00:15:09.040 --> 00:15:12.250
  • I know that's a funny little hashtag
  • 00:15:12.250 --> 00:15:14.130
  • but favor isn't about blessing.
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  • Jesus wasn't, was He not favored
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  • because He was born in a manger amongst animals?
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  • - But yet lawyers fight.
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  • - It goes justified, that's fate,
  • 00:15:23.170 --> 00:15:26.010
  • but we look at it very differently.
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  • - [Christine] Favors for service not for stance.
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  • - Thank you.
  • 00:15:28.290 --> 00:15:30.060
  • - It's like when the Lord said to Mary,
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  • you're highly favored.
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  • - [Alex] Right?
  • 00:15:33.280 --> 00:15:35.040
  • - He was about to wreck her life.
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  • - My favorite place to worship is in my bedroom.
  • 00:15:36.180 --> 00:15:40.050
  • I put the worship music on and I just dance before,
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  • like a crazy person, before God like a crazy,
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  • it's like my little sanctuary, it's my inner space
  • 00:15:48.150 --> 00:15:51.110
  • but I also love worshiping with other saints at church.
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  • Corporate worship for me is so powerful.
  • 00:15:55.000 --> 00:15:58.000
  • And I love to do that, that's in regards to singing,
  • 00:15:58.000 --> 00:16:00.270
  • my worship in that way, so, that's how I love to worship.
  • 00:16:00.270 --> 00:16:03.290
  • - People get so offended that we believe
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  • and live in a great life
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  • and be victorious and all of that stuff.
  • 00:16:11.060 --> 00:16:13.020
  • That's not, mean, you don't suffer.
  • 00:16:13.020 --> 00:16:15.140
  • It's crazy that's the victory that we have in Christ.
  • 00:16:15.140 --> 00:16:17.280
  • - Literally why we chose this album name is because we,
  • 00:16:17.280 --> 00:16:21.080
  • it's a prophetic word, I mean, some people can sing the--
  • 00:16:21.080 --> 00:16:24.070
  • - [Laurie] Which one?
  • 00:16:24.070 --> 00:16:25.020
  • - Victory.
  • 00:16:25.020 --> 00:16:26.020
  • (laughter)
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  • The victory but that word just kept standing out
  • 00:16:27.160 --> 00:16:29.250
  • to our whole team because being victorious
  • 00:16:29.250 --> 00:16:33.120
  • can be a prophetic statement or it can be
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  • something that you're actually living in.
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  • - [Dianna] That's right.
  • 00:16:37.090 --> 00:16:38.210
  • - It's the whole spectrum of being a victor
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  • and being that over-comer and proclaimer.
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  • But I was gonna say earlier when you were talking about
  • 00:16:43.280 --> 00:16:47.020
  • what worship even is and why we even do it.
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  • I think that's a big question for people.
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  • Why, why do we even worship, you know?
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  • Is it just because God's this egotistical,
  • 00:16:53.290 --> 00:16:56.100
  • tell me I'm awesome God?
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  • And I think my biggest answer is
  • 00:16:58.040 --> 00:17:01.030
  • how could you not worship?
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  • When you have this incredible, you know,
  • 00:17:02.190 --> 00:17:06.010
  • all things just our favorite, the most wonderful,
  • 00:17:06.010 --> 00:17:09.050
  • how could you not worship?
  • 00:17:09.050 --> 00:17:10.140
  • I was asking Laurie for a picture one time
  • 00:17:11.210 --> 00:17:14.010
  • about what does worship do, What happens, you know?
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  • And I was just kinda minding my own business
  • 00:17:16.180 --> 00:17:18.010
  • and I got this crazy picture of God in heaven
  • 00:17:18.010 --> 00:17:20.270
  • and it was like a movie scene.
  • 00:17:20.270 --> 00:17:22.100
  • You ever close your eyes, you're gonna watch a movie scene?
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  • And God was in heaven and He had this mirror,
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  • He's holding this mirror up and as we would worship on earth
  • 00:17:26.130 --> 00:17:29.200
  • our praises would rise and three things would happen
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  • as we worship, which is, God, you're so amazing,
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  • you're wonderful, you're glorious,
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  • three things would happen.
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  • One thing that happen, God would absorb the words.
  • 00:17:37.290 --> 00:17:40.110
  • He would absorb it like when you're telling someone
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  • and they just hug you?
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  • God was absorbing. - Wow.
  • 00:17:43.170 --> 00:17:45.020
  • - Like ah, thank you, like you tell someone that you love.
  • 00:17:45.020 --> 00:17:47.210
  • He'd absorb it and the next thing that would happen
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  • is the words of praise that we were saying to Him
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  • He'd absorb and then He'd shoot 'em out over the nations,
  • 00:17:53.170 --> 00:17:56.000
  • yes, I am, like we were declaring to the nations
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  • who God was, so He was snuggling it
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  • and it was an affectionate thing
  • 00:18:02.160 --> 00:18:04.020
  • and it was a prophecy of yes, I am.
  • 00:18:04.020 --> 00:18:06.260
  • And then the third thing that would happen is
  • 00:18:06.260 --> 00:18:08.060
  • in this mirror that God was holding
  • 00:18:08.060 --> 00:18:09.260
  • we would just say these words and God, you're wonderful,
  • 00:18:09.260 --> 00:18:12.010
  • you're holy, and He'd say, so are you.
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  • The words would bounce back to us as we'd say them
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  • because you become like the very one you worship,
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  • we become like Him.
  • 00:18:18.280 --> 00:18:20.050
  • So God isn't in heaven just, you know,
  • 00:18:20.050 --> 00:18:21.270
  • wanting this tell me I'm awesome, so much is happening.
  • 00:18:21.270 --> 00:18:25.060
  • - Showing His glory through us.
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  • - [Jenn] Yes.
  • 00:18:26.240 --> 00:18:28.090
  • - Worship is a lifestyle is one of my most common phrases
  • 00:18:28.090 --> 00:18:32.050
  • I say because it really does encompass all of our lives.
  • 00:18:32.050 --> 00:18:36.160
  • It is not just music, it's everything, it's every detail,
  • 00:18:36.160 --> 00:18:40.260
  • it's our heart, it's our attitude,
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  • it's our life laid down as worship.
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  • Whether we're taking care of someone
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  • or something or cleaning the house.
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  • No matter what it is we're doing, going to work
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  • as unto the Lord, that's what we're doing
  • 00:18:51.180 --> 00:18:53.230
  • and it's worship therefore.
  • 00:18:53.230 --> 00:18:55.200
  • And just having us surrender life to Him, God, anything,
  • 00:18:55.200 --> 00:18:59.220
  • anywhere, anytime that's worship, and He loves that.
  • 00:18:59.220 --> 00:19:04.190
  • I love nature so I feel close to God the most
  • 00:19:05.240 --> 00:19:10.200
  • when I'm on a walk on the trail on our property.
  • 00:19:10.200 --> 00:19:14.050
  • We live in a big forest and we have this creek
  • 00:19:14.050 --> 00:19:18.000
  • and I just love to be near that water
  • 00:19:18.000 --> 00:19:21.210
  • and just, it's very peaceful to me.
  • 00:19:21.210 --> 00:19:23.200
  • That's my favorite time, just be by myself,
  • 00:19:23.200 --> 00:19:26.170
  • pickin' up sticks on our property to burn
  • 00:19:26.170 --> 00:19:29.100
  • and just being in nature I just feel so clear
  • 00:19:29.100 --> 00:19:32.100
  • and connected to God, so it's my favorite.
  • 00:19:32.100 --> 00:19:34.200
  • - You can watch Better Together conversations on demand.
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  • Go to bettertogether.tv to stream
  • 00:19:37.250 --> 00:19:40.100
  • all of our latest episodes.
  • 00:19:40.100 --> 00:19:42.060
  • - I think too like Romans 12 talks about our life
  • 00:19:46.030 --> 00:19:50.110
  • as being presented as a living sacrifice.
  • 00:19:50.110 --> 00:19:52.270
  • This is your reasonable, I love that, reasonable.
  • 00:19:52.270 --> 00:19:56.070
  • - That's the baseline.
  • 00:19:56.070 --> 00:19:57.220
  • (laughing)
  • 00:19:57.220 --> 00:19:59.060
  • - It's reasonable to be on the alter and killed everyday.
  • 00:19:59.060 --> 00:20:02.220
  • - Don't climb off.
  • 00:20:02.220 --> 00:20:03.260
  • (laughing)
  • 00:20:03.260 --> 00:20:05.040
  • - That is worship to God when we do His will
  • 00:20:05.040 --> 00:20:09.060
  • and when we've chosen to not live according to our flesh
  • 00:20:09.060 --> 00:20:12.060
  • but to move in the opposite spirit.
  • 00:20:12.060 --> 00:20:13.220
  • That's worship to God 'cause we're living kingdom-minded.
  • 00:20:13.220 --> 00:20:16.240
  • And I think it's not just about singing
  • 00:20:16.240 --> 00:20:18.200
  • and it's not just about music,
  • 00:20:18.200 --> 00:20:20.050
  • it's actually about every part of our lives going
  • 00:20:20.050 --> 00:20:23.020
  • unconsecrating this body on this side of eternity
  • 00:20:23.020 --> 00:20:26.290
  • to live for you and whether it costs me
  • 00:20:26.290 --> 00:20:29.200
  • my friends making fun of me,
  • 00:20:29.200 --> 00:20:32.000
  • I'm not the popular opinion right now,
  • 00:20:32.000 --> 00:20:34.230
  • and I look like the right-wing or the--
  • 00:20:34.230 --> 00:20:38.240
  • - [Christine] Stray cat.
  • 00:20:38.240 --> 00:20:40.100
  • - Stay cat, exactly or I'm strechin' it or whatever
  • 00:20:40.100 --> 00:20:42.210
  • it's like no, I'm living my life unto you as worship.
  • 00:20:42.210 --> 00:20:46.120
  • - Yes.
  • 00:20:46.120 --> 00:20:47.200
  • - You died for me and that was your beautiful
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  • gift to us and I think worship is so necessary
  • 00:20:49.190 --> 00:20:53.220
  • as a Christian, as a believing kind of an Adam.
  • 00:20:53.220 --> 00:20:56.240
  • - What happens for me when I worship?
  • 00:20:56.240 --> 00:20:58.190
  • It aligns my life.
  • 00:21:00.100 --> 00:21:02.160
  • Kinda recalibrates my thinking,
  • 00:21:02.160 --> 00:21:05.230
  • recalibrates my heart, my thoughts,
  • 00:21:06.270 --> 00:21:09.040
  • what's happening inside, releases tension,
  • 00:21:10.060 --> 00:21:15.060
  • it sets me up for my day, and if, it's not all the time
  • 00:21:16.180 --> 00:21:20.230
  • like sad music, sometimes it's happy music,
  • 00:21:20.230 --> 00:21:24.160
  • it's not so introverted in self-expressing,
  • 00:21:25.210 --> 00:21:30.110
  • it's always like focusing on Jesus.
  • 00:21:30.110 --> 00:21:33.200
  • Focusing on His attributes, that He is a big God.
  • 00:21:33.200 --> 00:21:37.190
  • That's what worship is like for me, it's very freeing,
  • 00:21:40.110 --> 00:21:43.210
  • very liberating, it's kinda like my
  • 00:21:43.210 --> 00:21:47.030
  • pocket therapist sometimes, if I could put it that way.
  • 00:21:47.030 --> 00:21:51.150
  • That's what it is to me.
  • 00:21:51.150 --> 00:21:53.090
  • - And as a mom too, I think, a practical side of womanhood,
  • 00:21:53.090 --> 00:21:57.180
  • as a mom, which we all are,
  • 00:21:57.180 --> 00:21:59.180
  • you are caught doing a lot of mundane things,
  • 00:21:59.180 --> 00:22:02.010
  • a lot of diapers, nappies, you know, while you're changing
  • 00:22:02.010 --> 00:22:05.230
  • and I think that the best perspective is to look at
  • 00:22:05.230 --> 00:22:08.290
  • every single part of your life as worship.
  • 00:22:08.290 --> 00:22:11.210
  • Every diaper you change, it's not like it's better than
  • 00:22:11.210 --> 00:22:14.130
  • or worse than being on a stage doing, but it is all worship,
  • 00:22:14.130 --> 00:22:18.010
  • every single detail and I think that it empowers you
  • 00:22:18.010 --> 00:22:21.040
  • as a woman especially to do things that may not be
  • 00:22:21.040 --> 00:22:24.250
  • very glorious or glamorous to other people
  • 00:22:24.250 --> 00:22:27.160
  • but it's all unto Him, it's all for His kingdom,
  • 00:22:27.160 --> 00:22:30.010
  • every little thing.
  • 00:22:30.010 --> 00:22:31.120
  • - I think for, even in my own life,
  • 00:22:31.120 --> 00:22:33.230
  • I wasn't full-time ministry, I was at home.
  • 00:22:35.280 --> 00:22:39.030
  • I was a stay-at-home mom.
  • 00:22:39.030 --> 00:22:40.170
  • I made specific decisions because I saw
  • 00:22:40.170 --> 00:22:43.250
  • in the long range goal
  • 00:22:43.250 --> 00:22:45.230
  • I wanted something inside of my daughters and so--
  • 00:22:45.230 --> 00:22:49.290
  • - [Laurie] That is full-time ministry.
  • 00:22:49.290 --> 00:22:51.150
  • (laughter)
  • 00:22:51.150 --> 00:22:53.020
  • - But what I mean is it doesn't look like
  • 00:22:53.020 --> 00:22:55.010
  • what people's expectations are.
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  • And so the mundane was getting a Word from the Lord,
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  • getting a download between the laundry room
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  • and washing dishes, to writing a sermon
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  • or fixing lesson plans for home school
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  • or helping my husband do a Bible study
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  • or leading teams, whatever that looks like.
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  • I think for many people out there
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  • that are thinkin' of worship, it's like everything,
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  • everything's sacred, all life is sacred.
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  • Not compartmentalize, like okay, this is motherhood,
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  • this is not really significant but when you go out there
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  • and when you finally live your life, living your dream,
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  • then that's ministry and that's not always true.
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  • I think worship is everything, everything,
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  • all life is sacred.
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  • Everything flows and whatever you do unto Him,
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  • you do it all in the name of the Lord
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  • and do it to the best of your ability.
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  • - And it's not what we do on the outside to everybody else.
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  • God sees our heart, that's where, that's where it counts.
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  • - It's important that we don't limit it to
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  • 20 minutes on a Sunday morning,
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  • like now we've worshiped, whatever that means.
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  • - Or an hour if your at Bethel.
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  • (hearty laughter)
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  • - And I really wanna encourage you today
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  • that the enemy wants you feeling sorry for yourself,
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  • getting into your own little worship pity party,
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  • and staying away from that intimate place
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  • but I wanna encourage you today,
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  • if you need a breakthrough in your life,
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  • one thing I have learned, when I don't feel like it,
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  • that's actually when I need to do it.
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  • And so, I have just got into a place of worship
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  • and I've put worship on for me.
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  • You may be sitting there going,
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  • but I don't know how to sing.
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  • Put some worship on and let that worship wash over you
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  • because you're gonna start to hear
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  • and faith comes by hearing and hearing by the Word of God
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  • and most worship songs are Scripture.
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  • And so, let that wash over you
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  • and as that washes over you, you're gonna
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  • only want to now sing back to God.
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  • And I promise you, when you begin to sing out of that place,
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  • whether it's disappointment, whether it's sadness,
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  • or despair, something shifts on the inside of you
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  • and God transforms you.
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  • You're circumstances may not change
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  • when you get up out of that worship moment,
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  • but you will have changed and the atmosphere over your life
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  • will change and you will turn that mourning into joy.
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  • And so, I wanna pray for you right now.
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  • If you're in the depths of despair
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  • and you're in your darkest days
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  • and you just feel like sitting in your bed
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  • and not getting up, I wanna encourage you to worship.
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  • So, I'm gonna pray with you right now.
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  • Father, you see your daughters,
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  • you see what they're going through right now,
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  • and I just pray that they would have the courage
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  • to get up today and to worship you
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  • regardless of what their circumstances look like,
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  • but they would chose to put you first
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  • and put you in your rightful place
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  • and as they do, I pray that the atmosphere of heaven
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  • will shift over their lives and that you change them.
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  • In your name we pray, amen.
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  • - [Laurie] Please connect with us on social media
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  • and let us know how we can pray for you.
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  • - People are gonna think, okay, so you are worshiping
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  • the sunrise, you must have access to secretly inducing
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  • God that us normal Christians can't have,
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  • what would you say?
  • 00:26:12.050 --> 00:26:13.030
  • - I think that everyone has their things
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  • that God has given them specifically
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  • and is saying to them specifically
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  • and that it isn't a preference or you know,
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  • because your a musician you're more connected, not at all.
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  • I think that it can be a craft junction to watch musicians
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  • and use music, which is such a gift of God
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  • and it's been distorted, I mean, look it,
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  • that's how, how it started last Sunday.
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  • Maybe their too important, and too connected,
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  • it was too easy and they got, you know, kicked out.
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  • And so I think that it can be a slippery slope
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  • but I think that if it's used as a gift of God,
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  • it is to connect into Him, it will then connect others
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  • to Him and that's just, that's the heart string.
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  • - [Christine] Yeah.
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  • - [Laurie] Here's what's happening next time on
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  • Better Together.
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  • - We even taught our kids that prayer is our default.
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  • You go to pray first.
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  • - [Jenn] Watch Better Together weekdays,
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  • Friday you're on TV...
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