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May 7, 2019
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  • - What is standing in the way of your relationship with God?
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  • You know, emotional and spiritual barriers
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  • can feel like prison walls.
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  • Today we're gonna talk about break through.
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  • Come and join us.
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  • (upbeat music)
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  • - You know, just like any relationship
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  • that we go through in womanhood,
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  • there's sometimes you hit a plateau
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  • or a barrier or some kind of front to you as you try
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  • to get deeper with people
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  • instead of just keeping it surface.
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  • I feel like sometimes we try to reflect that with God
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  • that it's very one dimensional
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  • but once we try to go deeper, sometimes we hit a wall.
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  • - Right. - Yeah. (laughs)
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  • - There's not always something that you can break beyond
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  • and my question to you is like,
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  • have you ever experienced, you know,
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  • maybe some thing that came between you and your relationship
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  • with God where it prevented you from hearing his voice.
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  • - Yeah, I grew up just, in the church, and knowing God
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  • since I was a little girl and I remember really,
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  • started to practice, hearing God's voice
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  • when I became a teenager.
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  • Just telling God I'm so hungry.
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  • I love your word and I know you
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  • but I just wanna hear your voice.
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  • Like what you're saying right now to me
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  • as I'm driving to work, you know.
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  • As I grew, I just really started being accustomed
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  • to his voice and I remember I was about 22 years old
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  • and all of a sudden, I was so accustomed
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  • to hearing the voice of God,
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  • all of a sudden, one day, it was gone.
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  • Just gone.
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  • I could not hear the voice of God.
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  • And I, it was about a 3-month period
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  • and I became very angry.
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  • We went to counseling over it.
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  • I just can't hear God, I don't feel the presence of God
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  • like I was so accustomed to.
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  • And so, you know, I just did everything else I knew to do.
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  • But it was like, it was gone.
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  • And a lady came to our church and she just said,
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  • she's ministering, she said, there's someone here
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  • and you've stopped feeling the presence of God
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  • and it's not a punishment
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  • but it's so that you can learn God in different ways
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  • than you're accustomed to.
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  • It's to grow you and I just sobbed and sobbed
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  • 'cause I saw God giving me an invitation
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  • to know him even deeper in his word which I was accustom to
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  • but still, had become not daily bread needed.
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  • And just different ways of seeing him in nature,
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  • in color and all different dimensions when I had
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  • become so accustomed to just hearing his voice and doing it.
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  • So it was a gift but I definitely felt I had hit a wall.
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  • But then the Lord really showed me why,
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  • why he was doing to me what he was doing.
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  • - In many ways, if I'm feeling dry or I'm feeling like,
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  • you know, I'm just not in the zone,
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  • like I know, I can be.
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  • I have to say, I'd probably be batting a thousand
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  • it would be disobedient.
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  • Whatever that might mean, is that the Lord had asked me
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  • to do something and I've postponed it.
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  • I procrastinated, I just haven't done it yet.
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  • And you know, I do remember one distinct things.
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  • Well, I'm not really gonna tell you to do anything new
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  • until you get about doing the last thing I told you to do.
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  • It's not that God - Yeah, that's real.
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  • has stopped talking or that God has moved.
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  • It's like any time you feel a drift, the anchor's attached.
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  • It hasn't gone anywhere, - Right.
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  • but I just haven't put the anchor down.
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  • It's kind of like, - Yup.
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  • God's like, I haven't really moved anywhere but either if...
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  • - I haven't moved anywhere yet.
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  • - You moved.
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  • (laughter)
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  • - You're the one that's moved and whether you've moved
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  • in willful disobedience through sin or just procrastination
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  • or whatever it might be.
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  • And I think to not admit that would be wrong.
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  • You could be even having a quiet time everyday
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  • but not even hearing the voice through the word anymore.
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  • It's like dry, it's dead.
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  • It's more me that has moved from God.
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  • God actually hasn't gone anywhere
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  • but through my own disobedience and what I mean by that
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  • is maybe not a willful thing where you know,
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  • the Bible says do not do this and I've gone and done that.
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  • But I'm talking about things
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  • where maybe I have withheld forgiveness somewhere.
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  • I've an offense somewhere.
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  • I may have gossiped or you know,
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  • maybe said something I shouldn't have said,
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  • done something I shouldn't have done.
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  • And the point is if I haven't gone
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  • to make that right with God.
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  • If I haven't repented and kept short accounts with God
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  • then I find that that really does impact my ability
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  • to communicate with him.
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  • - I think, for me, it was the element of just lazy.
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  • - Yeah. - Totally.
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  • - I think most of the time, in my experience
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  • with my relationship with Jesus that little affront
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  • or that obstacle or that barrier was just being lazy.
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  • Not being intentional with him.
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  • Showing up to my quiet time or private time or closet time,
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  • whatever you wanna call it.
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  • Just showing up and just doing the mundane,
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  • and taking it for granted. - Yeah.
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  • - [Woman] Sure.
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  • - And just assuming that he'll show up all the time.
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  • And I feel like at times, those moments were,
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  • I was showing up, he was like this.
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  • Just looking at me, so...
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  • - Yeah. (laughs)
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  • - Is that the same thing this time?
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  • For me, it was the stage when I got married
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  • and after having three pregnancies back to back,
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  • (tongue clicks) I did a number on me.
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  • And you kinda get in the mode of just doing.
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  • And what you were used to doing, it's not working.
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  • So, my intimacy with Jesus or just, you know,
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  • being alone with God when I was single
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  • was not working in the context of,
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  • now I have three kids, life is busy
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  • and I'm just doing the everyday, you know,
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  • clock in, clock out.
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  • Okay, I spent 30 minutes with God
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  • and then I move on with life.
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  • All of a sudden, those moments got dry for me.
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  • Like I wasn't putting any effort into it.
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  • - Wow.
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  • - And so, those were like highlight moments for me.
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  • - I've been offended at God.
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  • - [Woman] yeah
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  • - I've been so offended at him and I think, offense
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  • puts a major huge block. - Stop.
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  • - [Woman] Yup. - And it puts this thing,
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  • you don't even realize you're offended at him.
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  • - Yeah.
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  • - But you're disappointed and so you're offended by
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  • you didn't come through for me.
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  • And so you shut off a point and then it's like you feel
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  • like the heavens are like brass.
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  • And you can't hear anymore and it's until you go,
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  • because again, - Great.
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  • we don't understand his nature.
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  • He's not offending us, he might be offending the flesh.
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  • The holy spirit offending the flesh, absolutely.
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  • - Yeah. (laughs)
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  • - And I think that offense to God is like you didn't
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  • come through and so you then, I feel like I switch off.
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  • - [Woman] Mm hm.
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  • - And so, I'll do the right things.
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  • But I'm not hearing anything - Yup.
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  • until you get back into that place
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  • and you actually go, so sorry, you're so good
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  • and I just come clean.
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  • And then he's just straight away, bam.
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  • He comes right back in.
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  • - I think that's, I think, an offense and a close cousin
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  • is if you feel like you've been betrayed or trust.
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  • And so, if you don't understand something, it's hard
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  • to trust and I think, you know,
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  • I've been through a really difficult, couple of years
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  • and some of it, it just, there was no place
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  • for me to put it in terms of my understanding.
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  • It made no cognitive sense, no, you know...
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  • And I found because I wasn't understanding, in some areas,
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  • I began to just not trust God. - Yeah.
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  • - Now, if you don't trust someone,
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  • you're not gonna be intimate with someone you don't trust.
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  • - Totally. - That's right.
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  • - And so you know, and some people had betrayed my trust
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  • and I had transferred that to God
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  • and so because one person, - That's right.
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  • in particular that I was very close to,
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  • I felt betrayed, you know, I probably felt like
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  • betrayed like this.
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  • But you know, I felt that they betrayed
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  • my trust very deeply.
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  • And I realized I just couldn't,
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  • because I esteemed this person so highly in Christ,
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  • I couldn't separate the God that, you know.
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  • I mean it would have been easier
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  • if it was just a heathen - Totally.
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  • that I probably, like,
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  • okay, I was expecting it. - True.
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  • - You know, David said, it would have been easy
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  • if it was my enemy that... - Yeah.
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  • But when it was my dear friend that I went
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  • to the house of the Lord with.
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  • It was so deeply... - Normally, it's friends
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  • That's it, deeply painful. - and family.
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  • So that, but I found and I mean it was a good year,
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  • and I'm still doing all the things that I do.
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  • But in term of that real, real - Yeah.
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  • intimacy, where I thought, - That's right.
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  • what I've done is because I haven't understood why
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  • this has happened and that person betrayed my trust,
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  • I'm not trusting God.
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  • And I had to get to the place, I really got stuck
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  • in the book of Habakkuk, believe it or not.
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  • How do you say it in American?
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  • - Habakkuk, yup.
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  • - Habakkuk, Habakkuk.
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  • (laughter)
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  • - Where it say, you know, and here's the case,
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  • it was, though the fig tree doesn't prosper,
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  • though there's no fruit on the vine,
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  • yet I will trust. - [Woman] Right.
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  • So when I get to a place that when I don't understand
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  • will I trust and it was only then that it broke.
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  • But I mean, I'm talking, I had to walk a year
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  • of like, I don't get this, this is not fair.
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  • So there was offense in that, at God.
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  • - [Woman] Yeah, that's right.
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  • - There was all of these things thrown in
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  • but I thought the only thing that really rekindled
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  • that intimacy, again, God had not moved.
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  • It was me and...
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  • - I remember there was a season in my life
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  • where there was a barrier between me and God
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  • because I discovered, not at the time,
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  • it took a little moment to unravel.
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  • But I was offended at God
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  • because I'd been asking and believing for something
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  • for a really long time.
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  • And I was disappointed with the timeline.
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  • I wanted God to do it by x date and he hadn't done it
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  • at this time and I thought he should have done it.
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  • And I remember being so offended that it was like,
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  • I started to put all these things before and be like,
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  • well, God, I've done this for you
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  • and I've done that for you
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  • and I've laid down my life for you
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  • and you can't come through with me here.
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  • And it was there where I just felt
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  • the beautiful correction of God.
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  • Like, I love how God corrects us sometimes
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  • because it doesn't feel awful, it actually feels good
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  • even though you know you're being corrected.
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  • And I felt God say to me, Alex, do you trust in my nature?
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  • Do you trust that I'm good all the time?
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  • Do you trust that I turn things around and I make them good?
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  • Especially for those who love me and are called according
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  • to my purpose, that's what scripture says.
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  • And I said, I don't know if I trust you and he says,
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  • well, I need you to let go and I need you to repent
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  • and forgive me, even though he hadn't done anything.
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  • And so I said, God, I just ask you
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  • actually to forgive me first
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  • because I've held offense against you.
  • 00:10:36.220 --> 00:10:39.180
  • - And what the enemy again is after,
  • 00:10:39.180 --> 00:10:41.140
  • it's not even the betrayal of that relationship,
  • 00:10:41.140 --> 00:10:43.110
  • it's your intimacy with God
  • 00:10:43.110 --> 00:10:44.250
  • because out of that intimacy comes more fruit
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  • and you're able to birth more things
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  • and continue to move forward, so...
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  • - I think guilt. - [Women] Yes.
  • 00:10:51.020 --> 00:10:52.220
  • - Argh, they're all cousins.
  • 00:10:52.220 --> 00:10:54.290
  • - Well, that keeps us out, - Yes.
  • 00:10:56.140 --> 00:10:59.040
  • that keeps us
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  • from going forward. - Absolutely.
  • 00:11:00.110 --> 00:11:01.190
  • And that guilt of maybe not even spending time,
  • 00:11:01.190 --> 00:11:03.230
  • so people probably think we spend hours
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  • before the Lord each day.
  • 00:11:06.110 --> 00:11:08.070
  • We might not spend hours on our faith but he is with us
  • 00:11:08.070 --> 00:11:11.190
  • 24 hours a day. - [Women] Yeah.
  • 00:11:11.190 --> 00:11:13.290
  • And just knowing that God is here.
  • 00:11:13.290 --> 00:11:16.020
  • God is with me today wherever I go, wherever I am.
  • 00:11:16.020 --> 00:11:20.040
  • And it's not just this big daily sit down,
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  • okay, Lord, you know, and doing your thing.
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  • It's talking with him throughout the day.
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  • I need your help right now. - Exactly.
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  • What do I say to my kids sitting here in the car?
  • 00:11:31.160 --> 00:11:33.160
  • You know those simple things and the guilt and the shame
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  • of maybe not spending time with him.
  • 00:11:37.120 --> 00:11:38.260
  • - Totally.
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  • Maybe sin. - Yup.
  • 00:11:39.240 --> 00:11:41.020
  • You know, sin just separates period.
  • 00:11:41.020 --> 00:11:43.130
  • - That's it. - That's right.
  • 00:11:43.130 --> 00:11:45.050
  • - That's exactly what I had... - It separates us from God.
  • 00:11:45.050 --> 00:11:47.180
  • It separates us from friends, - From people.
  • 00:11:47.180 --> 00:11:48.220
  • It just plain separates. - Yeah.
  • 00:11:48.220 --> 00:11:50.290
  • And I think that guilt, just knowing
  • 00:11:50.290 --> 00:11:53.240
  • that there is no condemnation.
  • 00:11:53.240 --> 00:11:55.250
  • - Yeah. - Quick Fix.
  • 00:11:55.250 --> 00:11:57.100
  • - Jesus is never gonna condemn us, or put shame and guilt
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  • on us for not spending enough time with him.
  • 00:12:00.240 --> 00:12:03.210
  • He's constantly doing - That's right.
  • 00:12:03.210 --> 00:12:05.050
  • that thing of come. - Totally.
  • 00:12:05.050 --> 00:12:06.140
  • - Absolutely. - And I love when you just,
  • 00:12:06.140 --> 00:12:08.160
  • you know just stopping
  • 00:12:08.160 --> 00:12:09.220
  • and just turning your affection to him.
  • 00:12:09.220 --> 00:12:11.130
  • It doesn't have to be - Yeah, come on.
  • 00:12:11.130 --> 00:12:12.080
  • for an hour.
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  • Just stop and say I love you so much.
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  • - [Woman] That's right.
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  • - A grateful thank you, Jesus. - Yes.
  • 00:12:16.070 --> 00:12:17.230
  • Just stop in whatever you're doing.
  • 00:12:17.230 --> 00:12:20.130
  • It's just amazing reconnect.
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  • It just, it does wonders to just keep that,
  • 00:12:22.150 --> 00:12:26.150
  • a counselor we used to see said,
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  • when you're connected like this, this is the goal.
  • 00:12:28.100 --> 00:12:30.050
  • You know, but in relationships with God and people,
  • 00:12:30.050 --> 00:12:32.120
  • you know, you kinda slip out. - Yeah.
  • 00:12:32.120 --> 00:12:34.040
  • But it's when you feel it, - [Woman] Yeah, that's right.
  • 00:12:34.040 --> 00:12:35.190
  • that you just, lean in, reconnect, you're always,
  • 00:12:35.190 --> 00:12:38.060
  • and you just never - That's right.
  • 00:12:38.060 --> 00:12:39.010
  • want to break that.
  • 00:12:39.010 --> 00:12:40.020
  • And if that happens, - Yes.
  • 00:12:40.020 --> 00:12:41.160
  • you know, it's just whatever you can do to just be together.
  • 00:12:41.160 --> 00:12:44.020
  • It's just so important... - Yeah.
  • 00:12:44.020 --> 00:12:45.060
  • - That's that entering into his gaze
  • 00:12:45.060 --> 00:12:47.060
  • with just that thankfulness.
  • 00:12:47.060 --> 00:12:49.090
  • Just a simple thank you Lord, I know you're here with me,
  • 00:12:49.090 --> 00:12:51.290
  • thank you for this moment, you know.
  • 00:12:51.290 --> 00:12:53.250
  • - Yeah, and I think what Chris was saying too,
  • 00:12:53.250 --> 00:12:55.210
  • I think, it's offense that God can be a stopper
  • 00:12:55.210 --> 00:12:58.110
  • but also offense with people. - Oh yeah.
  • 00:12:58.110 --> 00:13:00.130
  • - I know if, I have two daughters, and if they're not happy
  • 00:13:00.130 --> 00:13:04.080
  • with each other, it's not about me being connected to them.
  • 00:13:04.080 --> 00:13:07.160
  • Y'all gonna work this out. - Yeah, yes.
  • 00:13:07.160 --> 00:13:09.150
  • So I think that it's very important to the father heart
  • 00:13:09.150 --> 00:13:11.220
  • of God that these kids work things out and you know,
  • 00:13:11.220 --> 00:13:14.180
  • there's gonna be people that you do your best with
  • 00:13:14.180 --> 00:13:16.050
  • and they're still not gonna like you.
  • 00:13:16.050 --> 00:13:17.180
  • But you know, to not carry offense with people.
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  • - [Woman] It's huge.
  • 00:13:20.140 --> 00:13:21.270
  • - And to do before God, come before him when you got
  • 00:13:21.270 --> 00:13:23.040
  • something with somebody be like you know what,
  • 00:13:23.040 --> 00:13:25.050
  • God what do I need to do? What do I need to repent for?
  • 00:13:25.050 --> 00:13:27.160
  • What do I need to say?
  • 00:13:27.160 --> 00:13:28.260
  • Have brave conversations. - Absolutely.
  • 00:13:28.260 --> 00:13:30.110
  • A lot of people stuff things down and it just stops you
  • 00:13:30.110 --> 00:13:33.030
  • with God because God's just like that parent
  • 00:13:33.030 --> 00:13:34.290
  • that's like you're gonna need to work this out
  • 00:13:34.290 --> 00:13:36.270
  • because that's my kid.
  • 00:13:36.270 --> 00:13:38.120
  • This is my baby too and I know that just doing your best
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  • to come before the Lord and say what do I need to do
  • 00:13:41.260 --> 00:13:43.200
  • to go and mend this. - [Woman] That's a good one.
  • 00:13:43.200 --> 00:13:45.140
  • It's a major deal to God's heart.
  • 00:13:45.140 --> 00:13:47.140
  • - I think the greatest barrier
  • 00:13:47.140 --> 00:13:48.270
  • that I had to overcome,
  • 00:13:48.270 --> 00:13:51.040
  • to really be where I am today is to believe
  • 00:13:51.040 --> 00:13:53.230
  • that God the father, the God of the universe was interested
  • 00:13:53.230 --> 00:13:58.150
  • in the finite details of my life.
  • 00:13:58.150 --> 00:14:01.050
  • I always thought he was way too busy
  • 00:14:01.050 --> 00:14:03.180
  • to care about me personally because he had a world to run.
  • 00:14:03.180 --> 00:14:07.060
  • But what I've discovered is, is that he's so intentional
  • 00:14:07.060 --> 00:14:11.000
  • and so detailed that he knows every faucet of our lives.
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  • - [Narrator] We want you to join the conversation.
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  • Follow us on social media
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  • and let's get better together.
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  • - And it's not always authentic or genuine.
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  • I think we tolerate people. - Aha.
  • 00:14:27.210 --> 00:14:30.000
  • Tolerate relationships and so God is not pleased with that.
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  • And so if he's not pleased with you, you know,
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  • believe me, if you're his son or his daughter,
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  • he won't let you get away with stuff.
  • 00:14:37.160 --> 00:14:39.000
  • - Well, it says in the Bible even to the husbands
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  • treat your wives tenderly. - Yes.
  • 00:14:41.180 --> 00:14:43.200
  • And if you don't, and there's unforgiveness there.
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  • I will not hear your prayers. - Totally.
  • 00:14:47.150 --> 00:14:49.060
  • So he's going I'm actually putting a barrier (mumbling)
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  • because that's not cool. - Totally.
  • 00:14:53.020 --> 00:14:55.080
  • - Um, deal with this first.
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  • (laughter)
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  • And then I'll listen to you.
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  • - [Woman] Yes! - And it's so dad.
  • 00:15:01.000 --> 00:15:02.060
  • It's the kindness of the father heart.
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  • Okay, that's best for you.
  • 00:15:04.070 --> 00:15:05.140
  • For me, I identify when I'm not healthy.
  • 00:15:05.140 --> 00:15:10.070
  • When I'm short, short-tempered, short, angry at people.
  • 00:15:10.070 --> 00:15:15.070
  • Frustrated easily, it's just tell-tale sign of me
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  • not resting normally and that is difficult to do.
  • 00:15:19.140 --> 00:15:24.130
  • (laughs)
  • 00:15:24.130 --> 00:15:25.290
  • With a two year old running around, almost two year old.
  • 00:15:25.290 --> 00:15:27.180
  • But for me, just making rest a priority
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  • is something I haven't done very well
  • 00:15:31.230 --> 00:15:33.270
  • and I'm working on in my life.
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  • Especially for the future and how do you do that.
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  • I think that's it, for me in my life,
  • 00:15:39.100 --> 00:15:41.050
  • it's having Brian take the babies so I can rest
  • 00:15:41.050 --> 00:15:43.150
  • and I for him in doing, so that we're staying connected
  • 00:15:43.150 --> 00:15:46.190
  • to fun and rest and you can just so easily
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  • be swept up in work and life stuff.
  • 00:15:49.110 --> 00:15:51.270
  • And making sure you rest and have fun
  • 00:15:51.270 --> 00:15:54.190
  • and have time with the Lord is something
  • 00:15:54.190 --> 00:15:57.000
  • that we have to demand in our lives for health.
  • 00:15:57.000 --> 00:16:01.050
  • - I think for most of the time, when we think of barriers.
  • 00:16:01.050 --> 00:16:05.150
  • It's just admitting, admitting, coming to God admitting.
  • 00:16:05.150 --> 00:16:08.260
  • And then doing, activating it.
  • 00:16:08.260 --> 00:16:11.170
  • And at the end of it, I think you'll feel an openness,
  • 00:16:11.170 --> 00:16:14.140
  • and open heaven over your life.
  • 00:16:14.140 --> 00:16:16.010
  • - [Woman] Yeah.
  • 00:16:16.010 --> 00:16:17.160
  • - And I think the more you put that into practice,
  • 00:16:17.160 --> 00:16:19.160
  • there's such a fluidity, - Yes.
  • 00:16:19.160 --> 00:16:22.180
  • openness, an open channel.
  • 00:16:22.180 --> 00:16:24.060
  • Nothing hindering and you can actually go
  • 00:16:24.060 --> 00:16:27.080
  • with the clear face and a clear head
  • 00:16:27.080 --> 00:16:29.000
  • and a clear mind before Jesus and that communication
  • 00:16:29.000 --> 00:16:32.150
  • that relationship begins to flow again.
  • 00:16:32.150 --> 00:16:35.040
  • - You know those wilderness experiences, those times
  • 00:16:35.040 --> 00:16:37.130
  • when you do feel all alone and that you're wondering
  • 00:16:37.130 --> 00:16:41.240
  • where God is in your time of need.
  • 00:16:41.240 --> 00:16:44.280
  • The Bible says if we seek him, we will find him
  • 00:16:46.100 --> 00:16:49.260
  • and you know, if you just get into the Bible
  • 00:16:49.260 --> 00:16:53.130
  • and you just start reading his word,
  • 00:16:53.130 --> 00:16:55.250
  • God will speak to you through his word.
  • 00:16:55.250 --> 00:16:58.070
  • He never fails to do that if you're listening.
  • 00:16:58.070 --> 00:17:02.160
  • If you feel like you're in that wilderness,
  • 00:17:02.160 --> 00:17:04.290
  • that quiet time and he seems to be far, far away.
  • 00:17:04.290 --> 00:17:09.280
  • Always remember, he'll never leave you,
  • 00:17:09.280 --> 00:17:12.100
  • he never forsakes you, and he says,
  • 00:17:12.100 --> 00:17:14.200
  • if you cry out to me, I will answer you.
  • 00:17:14.200 --> 00:17:18.090
  • So just keep your head, just keep your head down,
  • 00:17:18.090 --> 00:17:20.180
  • you know if we stay on our knees,
  • 00:17:20.180 --> 00:17:21.290
  • we will never be driven.
  • 00:17:21.290 --> 00:17:23.200
  • And I just think that's just really important.
  • 00:17:23.200 --> 00:17:28.200
  • Just to say, seek in God because he will answer you.
  • 00:17:30.020 --> 00:17:32.290
  • - This is from Emeris Pearl in Texas and she says,
  • 00:17:35.050 --> 00:17:39.110
  • my family has been asking me when I am getting married.
  • 00:17:39.110 --> 00:17:42.170
  • I finally bring a boyfriend home and they don't like him.
  • 00:17:42.170 --> 00:17:46.070
  • I feel like I can't win.
  • 00:17:46.070 --> 00:17:47.210
  • Any advice?
  • 00:17:47.210 --> 00:17:48.180
  • Chris, what do you think?
  • 00:17:48.180 --> 00:17:49.260
  • - You've got to ask yourself a question.
  • 00:17:49.260 --> 00:17:51.040
  • Whether there's a reason that they don't like him
  • 00:17:51.040 --> 00:17:53.000
  • that is valid.
  • 00:17:53.000 --> 00:17:54.090
  • (mumbling)
  • 00:17:54.090 --> 00:17:55.150
  • - Yes, that's a red flag, red alert.
  • 00:17:55.150 --> 00:17:57.020
  • Right?
  • 00:17:57.020 --> 00:17:58.080
  • - It is, but at the end of the day.
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  • If you're Christian,
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  • you've gotta ask is this man a Christian.
  • 00:18:01.270 --> 00:18:04.140
  • And it's hard for me to jump in
  • 00:18:04.140 --> 00:18:05.240
  • if I don't know what the concerns are.
  • 00:18:05.240 --> 00:18:09.050
  • I mean you're a mom,
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  • what if your daughters brought one of them home.
  • 00:18:10.190 --> 00:18:11.250
  • - Oh, I would have said enh, not the one.
  • 00:18:11.250 --> 00:18:14.090
  • - So, there you go.
  • 00:18:14.090 --> 00:18:15.230
  • I would listen, if it's godly counseling you're getting
  • 00:18:15.230 --> 00:18:18.020
  • but if the people who are giving you the counsel
  • 00:18:18.020 --> 00:18:20.150
  • are negative by nature and not walking with the Lord
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  • then I wouldn't be listening to that either.
  • 00:18:24.280 --> 00:18:27.060
  • So make sure you've got good godly counsel
  • 00:18:27.060 --> 00:18:29.000
  • but can I say, when you've got a boyfriend
  • 00:18:29.000 --> 00:18:30.270
  • when you're just entering a relationship
  • 00:18:30.270 --> 00:18:32.190
  • having wise counsel is a very wise thing.
  • 00:18:32.190 --> 00:18:34.280
  • - Yeah, good friends that will tell you the truth, right.
  • 00:18:34.280 --> 00:18:37.140
  • - Totally.
  • 00:18:37.140 --> 00:18:38.290
  • - I'm the kind of friend who can actually sit down
  • 00:18:38.290 --> 00:18:42.230
  • and I actually listen.
  • 00:18:42.230 --> 00:18:44.050
  • Novel idea.
  • 00:18:44.050 --> 00:18:45.180
  • Like, I don't have to actually do all the talking.
  • 00:18:45.180 --> 00:18:47.230
  • I get to listen to your story,
  • 00:18:47.230 --> 00:18:49.270
  • intentional about knowing about you
  • 00:18:49.270 --> 00:18:52.050
  • and now to talking about me.
  • 00:18:52.050 --> 00:18:53.280
  • I love the journey that you've walked through.
  • 00:18:53.280 --> 00:18:56.240
  • I appreciate what you've conquered.
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  • I understand maybe some of the difficulties
  • 00:19:00.260 --> 00:19:05.090
  • in the journey that you had to carve out for yourself
  • 00:19:05.090 --> 00:19:08.200
  • and not everyone's perfect, myself included.
  • 00:19:08.200 --> 00:19:12.130
  • That there's perfection being gained as we walk this life.
  • 00:19:12.130 --> 00:19:16.190
  • I'm that kind of friend.
  • 00:19:16.190 --> 00:19:18.240
  • - You can watch Better Together Conversations On Demand.
  • 00:19:18.240 --> 00:19:21.170
  • - Go to bettertogether.tv
  • 00:19:21.170 --> 00:19:23.210
  • to stream all of our latest episodes.
  • 00:19:23.210 --> 00:19:26.030
  • - You have to primitively cultivate it though
  • 00:19:29.050 --> 00:19:31.040
  • 'cause we live in the age of distraction.
  • 00:19:31.040 --> 00:19:32.270
  • - Mm. - Yeah.
  • 00:19:32.270 --> 00:19:34.020
  • - And I think that's the big thing
  • 00:19:34.020 --> 00:19:35.190
  • that we have to understand as technology increases,
  • 00:19:35.190 --> 00:19:39.070
  • it's not going away.
  • 00:19:39.070 --> 00:19:41.030
  • It is so easy to get distracted,
  • 00:19:41.030 --> 00:19:43.240
  • and before you know it... - Totally.
  • 00:19:43.240 --> 00:19:45.100
  • You know, Hebrews 2 says,
  • 00:19:45.100 --> 00:19:47.140
  • pay attention to so great a salvation lest you drift.
  • 00:19:47.140 --> 00:19:51.160
  • And you don't have to do anything to drift away.
  • 00:19:51.160 --> 00:19:53.110
  • I'm thinking Nick and I were visiting a church
  • 00:19:53.110 --> 00:19:56.160
  • at Thessaloniki Greece.
  • 00:19:56.160 --> 00:19:57.210
  • So, we were out suffering for Jesus...
  • 00:19:57.210 --> 00:19:59.240
  • - On your boat
  • 00:19:59.240 --> 00:20:00.250
  • (laughter)
  • 00:20:00.250 --> 00:20:02.250
  • - And Nick said to the guy
  • 00:20:02.250 --> 00:20:05.020
  • that runs our European operation, um, put the anchor down.
  • 00:20:05.020 --> 00:20:08.130
  • He'd never done it, so he sort of threw the anchor,
  • 00:20:08.130 --> 00:20:11.200
  • not even checking, like is it going,
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  • it's actually got to get down there.
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  • And all of a sudden, about an hour later,
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  • I'm hearing the guys like go, oh my gosh,
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  • and then I hear a bang,
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  • as we have hit another boat.
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  • Like you know, - Oh my gosh.
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  • Like a full on yacht, you know whatever.
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  • And Phil, and Nick's like, Phil did you put the anchor down?
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  • Did you put the anchor, and he's like, I thought I did.
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  • And what he just didn't put that anchor down properly
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  • and so we didn't do anything.
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  • We didn't do anything bad, no one was going,
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  • I'm going to try, - Didn't need to.
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  • but the current, the natural drift, if you do not cultivate
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  • that relationship, you're just - That's it.
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  • Gonna drift and all of a sudden...
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  • - Into dangerous territories. - Uh huh.
  • 00:20:56.000 --> 00:20:57.270
  • - Into dangerous water, and you've put a barrier there.
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  • Not out of, because God's going, I haven't moved.
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  • You drifted.
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  • - Just being honest, because I am that girl.
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  • There's no fluff to me, I can't, you know, like,
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  • make it into this religious dissertation,
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  • this theological sound sermon.
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  • I'm just telling you from real life, what I've experienced.
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  • Just obeying Jesus is a whole lot better than walking
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  • around that mountain five times
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  • or five years or maybe five decades
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  • and for some of us it's been that long.
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  • And you haven't sense that closeness to Jesus.
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  • Or that sense of him being near you.
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  • If I can encourage you that if you're honest,
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  • immediately that opens up the passage way
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  • and heaven begins to be open to you once again.
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  • So if I can pray with you, you know when it comes to this.
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  • If you hear yourself in that.
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  • Let me just pray for you.
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  • You could bow your heads, close your eyes or you could
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  • just watch me on the screen.
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  • I would love to just lead you into these steps.
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  • Lord, Jesus, I just thank you for my friend that's sitting
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  • across from me and maybe what I've said
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  • has pricked your heart.
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  • And she's already feeling (finger snapping)
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  • some memories, people, names
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  • that are kind of flashing back in her mind.
  • 00:22:19.180 --> 00:22:22.110
  • Maybe scenarios that have happened to her or him.
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  • And Lord, I'm just praying right now that you begin
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  • to minister to them just begin to, if I could say it
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  • in this visual.
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  • Just wrap your arms around them
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  • and draw them close to you.
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  • And Lord, let them be honest, for once in their life,
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  • that they have been on the other side of that scenario.
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  • Maybe it's their fault, like it was mine.
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  • Maybe they don't want to take ownership and for me
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  • that was my story.
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  • I didn't want to take ownership.
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  • And I'm just here to pray for my friend
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  • that's sitting across that God can do that
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  • if you're open up first,
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  • if you're honest with your life.
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  • That God will begin to sweep in
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  • and begin to lay out the steps of what to do next.
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  • Those barriers will become, kind of dissolve.
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  • Those walls, torn down, those bricks that you built up
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  • that wall of insecurity or protection
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  • that you thought it was gonna guard you from pain.
  • 00:23:26.140 --> 00:23:28.260
  • Actually, it's causing you a lot more pain.
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  • Lord, I just pray that you will just break down that wall,
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  • that barrier and begin to reach them once again.
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  • Let them reach to you, Jesus.
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  • In God's precious name, I pray, amen.
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  • and let us know how we can pray for you.
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  • - I love God's sense of humor.
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  • I think that in The Passion movie,
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  • The Passion of the Christ.
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  • One of my favorite scenes in the entire movie
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  • which I balled my eyes out through
  • 00:23:57.020 --> 00:23:59.200
  • is the scene where Jesus splashed his mom, Mary with water.
  • 00:23:59.200 --> 00:24:03.060
  • And he's just teasing her and I think
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  • that God is as happy and fun as he is holy
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  • and just that aspect of God that is relatable,
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  • he's connectable and then he's just fun.
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  • He's kind and that's why I love him.
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  • - Real friends.
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  • (laughter)
  • 00:24:20.240 --> 00:24:23.110
  • - Real conversations.
  • 00:24:23.110 --> 00:24:24.200
  • - It's all about Jen, everything's about Jen.
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  • Just 'cause she can sing.
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  • This is what happens when you're a worship leader.
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  • - Oh Jen.
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  • (laughter)
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  • - Too much trouble over there, I'm not coming.
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  • - Better together.
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  • - Do-do-do-do-do-do
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  • Better together.
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  • (laughter) (beep)
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  • - [Narrator] Here's what's happening tomorrow
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  • on Better Together.
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  • - It's those places in those times,
  • 00:24:45.290 --> 00:24:47.250
  • man, when you don't understand.
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  • - [Woman] Right.
  • 00:24:49.090 --> 00:24:50.200
  • - And you worship anyway. - That's right.
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  • Whether it's worshiping through serving.
  • 00:24:51.240 --> 00:24:53.270
  • - Totally.
  • 00:24:53.270 --> 00:24:55.030
  • - You know it's not just all music.
  • 00:24:55.030 --> 00:24:56.260
  • - Nope, yeah, worship's a lifestyle.
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  • - [Narrator] Watch Better Together,
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  • weekdays right here on TBN.
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