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March 8, 2017
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Matt and Laurie Crouch hosts Robert Jeffress from Los Angeles, CA

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  • - MATT CROUCH: WELCOME TO
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  • "BEHIND THE SCENES" TODAY.
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  • OUR GUEST,
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  • PASTOR ROBERT JEFFRESS.
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  • HE'S A SENIOR PASTOR OF FIRST
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  • BAPTIST CHURCH IN DALLAS, TEXAS.
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  • PASTOR JEFFRESS, FIRST OF ALL,
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  • THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
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  • - LAURIE CROUCH: YES!
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  • - DR. ROBERT JEFFRESS: OH, IT'S
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  • AN HONOR TO BE HERE.
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  • THANKS FOR HAVIN' ME.
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  • - MATT: I WANNA JUMP IN RIGHT
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  • AWAY AND JUST SAY PASTOR ROBERT
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  • JEFFRESS' TV BROADCAST AIRS HERE
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  • ON TBN, AND ALL OF THAT
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  • INFORMATION WILL BE ON THE
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  • SCREEN HERE ON TBN.
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  • "PATHWAY TO VICTORY" ON TBN,
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  • SATURDAYS AT 7 P.M., AND SUNDAYS
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  • AT 11 A.M., PACIFIC.
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  • - LAURIE: THAT BIG, BEAUTIFUL
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  • CHURCH, RIGHT THERE!
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  • - MATT: WHAT AN AMAZING CHURCH
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  • IN DALLAS, TEXAS.
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  • AND I'VE HEARD SOME OF THE
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  • STORIES OF THE LORD LEADING YOU
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  • TO BUILD THAT AMAZING NEW FIRST
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  • BAPTIST CHURCH THERE IN DALLAS,
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  • AND CONGRATULATIONS ON THAT,
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  • PASTOR ROBERT.
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  • ALSO FOR THOSE THAT ARE GOING,
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  • "WAIT A SECOND.
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  • THIS IS TBN.
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  • BUT WAIT A SECOND.
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  • HE LOOKS FAMILIAR."
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  • YES, HE DOES
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  • BECAUSE OF FOX NEWS.
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  • FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR,
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  • ROBERT JEFFRESS,
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  • YOU DO AN AMAZING JOB WITH THAT.
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  • - ROBERT: WELL, THANK YOU.
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  • - MATT: WHEN YOU'RE HAVIN' TO
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  • JUMP INTO ALL THOSE CRAZY
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  • SUBJECTS AND MAKE SENSE OF IT
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  • AND DO IT IN A SHORT PERIOD OF
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  • YOU KNOW, THANK YOU!
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  • - LAURIE: BUT IS THIS LIKE ONE
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  • OF THE MOST IMPORTANT BOOKS
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  • YOU'VE EVER WRITTEN IN YOUR
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  • LIFE?
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  • - ROBERT: LAURIE, IT REALLY IS.
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  • I'VE WRITTEN 24 BOOKS.
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  • THIS IS THE FIRST CHILDREN'S
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  • BOOK I'VE WRITTEN, CALLED "THE
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  • GIFT: THE GOSPEL FOR CHILDREN,"
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  • AND I DID IT BECAUSE I WANNA
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  • HELP PARENTS AND GRANDPARENTS IN
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  • THE MOST IMPORTANT TASK WE HAVE
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  • AS PARENTS WITH OUR CHILDREN.
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  • YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO DO A LOT OF
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  • THINGS WITH OUR KIDS, BUT THE
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  • MOST IMPORTANT THING WE DO WITH
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  • OUR KIDS IS LEAD THEM TO FAITH
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  • IN CHRIST.
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  • OUR CHILDREN'S ETERNAL DESTINY
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  • IS TOO IMPORTANT TO LEAVE TO
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  • CHANCE, AND I THINK, YOU KNOW,
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  • MOST OF OUR AUDIENCE WATCHING,
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  • THEY KNOW THAT.
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  • THEY KNOW WE'RE SUPPOSED TO LEAD
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  • OUR CHILDREN TO CHRIST, BUT MOST
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  • PARENTS DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO IT.
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  • AND THEN, SO I WROTE THIS BOOK,
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  • "THE GIFT," FOR CHILDREN.
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  • IT'S BEAUTIFULLY ILLUSTRATED
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  • WITH A STORYBOOK, A STORY FOR
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  • CHILDREN, BUT IT'S WRITTEN SO A
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  • PARENT CAN KNOW HOW TO LEAD HIS
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  • CHILD TO CHRIST.
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  • THE BOOK CAN BE GIVEN TO A CHILD
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  • ON THEIR OWN TO READ, BUT THE
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  • BEST THING IS TO SIT DOWN WITH
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  • YOUR CHILD AND GO THROUGH IT,
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  • PAGE BY PAGE, AND THERE'S A
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  • PRAYER AT THE END OF THE FIRST
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  • HALF THAT YOU CAN LEAD YOUR
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  • CHILD IN, TO KNOW CHRIST AS
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  • SAVIOR.
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  • AND, YOU KNOW, I HAVE TO SAY,
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  • MATT AND LAURIE, I WAS IN THE
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  • DELIVERY ROOM WHEN EACH OF MY
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  • DAUGHTERS WAS BORN, AND THAT WAS
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  • A THRILLING SIGHT, BUT THAT JOY
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  • PALES IN COMPARISON TO THE
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  • EXPERIENCE OF SEEING MY
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  • DAUGHTERS BORN AGAIN, WHEN I
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  • KNEW I'D BE WITH THEM IN HEAVEN
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  • FOREVER.
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  • I HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF LEADING
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  • MY DAUGHTERS TO FAITH IN CHRIST.
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  • I THINK GOD WANTS EVERY PARENT
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  • TO HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY, AND
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  • THAT'S WHAT THE BOOK "THE GIFT"
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  • IS DESIGNED TO DO.
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  • - LAURIE: WOW!
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  • - MATT: BEAUTIFUL.
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  • YOU KNOW WHAT?
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  • WE HAVE ALSO ORGANIZED THAT THIS
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  • IS AVAILABLE RIGHT HERE RIGHT
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  • NOW.
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  • THE 800 NUMBER ON THE SCREEN,
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  • 714-8999, IS A VERY SPECIFIC
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  • NUMBER.
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  • "THE GIFT: THE GOSPEL FOR
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  • CHILDREN" IS AVAILABLE BY GOING
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  • RIGHT NOW TO THAT TELEPHONE
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  • NUMBER.
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  • WE'RE GONNA BE TALKING ABOUT
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  • THIS BOOK FOR THE NEXT HALF HOUR
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  • WITH PASTOR ROBERT JEFFRESS,
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  • FIRST BAPTIST CHURCH.
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  • OKAY, SO, OBVIOUSLY, YOU WERE
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  • JUST BORN IN A VERY WEALTHY
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  • FAMILY, HAD A SILVER SPOON IN
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  • YOUR MOUTH, AND, YOU KNOW,
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  • RAISING THE MONEY AND BUILDING
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  • THAT HUGE CHURCH WAS EASY FOR
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  • YOU, RIGHT?
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  • - ROBERT: UH, THAT'S SOMEBODY
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  • ELSE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT!
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  • - MATT: OH, IS THAT SOMEBODY
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  • ELSE...NOT YOU?
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  • - ROBERT: YEAH, THAT'S
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  • OS HAWKINS.
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  • [LAUGHTER]
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  • THAT'S HIS STORY!
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  • [LAUGHTER]
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  • - MATT: LOVE YOU, OS.
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  • WHERE WERE YOU WHEN THE VISION
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  • CAME INTO YOUR HEART TO DO THIS
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  • AMAZING FACILITY THERE IN
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  • DALLAS?
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  • - ROBERT: WELL, ACTUALLY, I
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  • GREW UP AT FIRST BAPTIST CHURCH,
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  • DALLAS.
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  • DR. CRISWELL WAS MY PASTOR, WHO
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  • WAS THERE FOR 50 YEARS AS
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  • PASTOR.
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  • AND MY DAD LED ME TO FAITH IN
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  • CHRIST WHEN I WAS 5 YEARS OLD,
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  • USING A CHILDREN'S BOOK THAT IS
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  • WHICH IS WHY I WROTE "THE GIFT,"
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  • BUT THEN HE TOOK ME
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  • DR. CRISWELL, AND WE PRAYED
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  • AGAIN THERE AND SO FORTH, AND SO
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  • I GREW UP IN THAT CHURCH.
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  • THEN I WENT AWAY FOR-- AFTER
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  • BEING THE YOUTH PASTOR THERE, I
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  • AND I CAME BACK TO THE CHURCH
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  • ABOUT 10 YEARS AGO.
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  • THE CHURCH HAD FALLEN INTO
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  • DISREPAIR.
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  • YOU KNOW, THE CHURCH COVERS
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  • ABOUT SIX BLOCKS OF DOWNTOWN
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  • DALLAS.
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  • AND I KNEW GOD DIDN'T WANT THE
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  • CHURCH TO DIE, AND SO I FELT
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  • LIKE GOD WANTED US TO CREATE A
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  • SPIRITUAL OASIS IN THE HEART OF
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  • DOWNTOWN DALLAS.
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  • AND SO I KNEW WHAT GOD WANTED US
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  • TO DO WAS TO COMPLETELY BLOW
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  • EVERYTHING UP, WHICH WE DID
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  • LITERALLY, AND START OVER AGAIN.
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  • AND AT THE TIME, IT WAS A $135
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  • MILLION PROJECT, THE LARGEST
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  • CHURCH BUILDING PROGRAM IN
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  • MODERN HISTORY OF ONE EFFORT,
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  • $135 MILLION.
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  • WE STARTED RAISING THE MONEY IN
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  • THE MIDDLE OF THE GREAT
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  • RECESSION WE HAD OF 2007, 2008.
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  • AND I'VE GOTTA TELL YA A QUICK
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  • STORY OF A MIRACLE BECAUSE THIS
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  • JUST SHOWS HOW GOD WORKS IN OUR
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  • LIVES WHEN WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE
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  • OF HIS WILL.
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  • I REMEMBER THE DATE: MARCH OF
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  • 2009, THE S&P WAS AT 666.
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  • I REMEMBER THAT REAL WELL, 666!
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  • IT HAD HIT BOTTOM.
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  • AND I WENT OUT TO LUNCH WITH THE
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  • CHAIRMAN OF OUR COMMITTEE, AND I
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  • SAID, "YOU KNOW, I KNOW WE'RE
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  • SUPPOSED TO DO THIS, BUT I JUST
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  • HAVE TO WONDER, IS THIS REALLY
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  • THE TIME?"
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  • AND SO, MARK, MY FRIEND, SAID,
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  • "WELL, LET'S JUST PRAY ABOUT
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  • IT."
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  • SO THE NEXT MORNING, I GOT
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  • DOWN ON MY KNEES, AND I SAID,
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  • "GOD, IF WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO
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  • THIS, PLEASE GIVE ME A SIGN AND
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  • GIVE IT TO ME TODAY."
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  • NOW, I KNOW YOU'RE NOT
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  • SUPPOSED TO PRAY THAT WAY,
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  • BUT THAT'S THE BEST I COULD DO.
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  • SO I GO TO LUNCH THAT DAY WITH
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  • ONE OF THE MEMBERS OF OUR
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  • CHURCH, AND HE JUST SIMPLY SAYS
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  • TO ME, "YOU KNOW, PASTOR, I KNOW
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  • TIMES ARE TOUGH, BUT I THINK WE
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  • NEED TO GO THROUGH WITH THIS
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  • PROGRAM."
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  • I THOUGHT TO MYSELF,
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  • "GOD, IS THAT THE SIGN?
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  • IT'S NOT MUCH, BUT I'LL DO-- YOU
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  • KNOW, IF THAT'S ALL I CAN GET,
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  • THAT'S WHAT I'LL TAKE."
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  • I SAID,
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  • "WELL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR
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  • FAITH."
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  • SO I WALKED BACK TO THE
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  • CHURCH, GET IN MY CAR.
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  • I'M DRIVING TO THE HOSPITAL TO
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  • MAKE A VISIT WHEN MY CELL PHONE
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  • RINGS, AND IT'S THIS GUY ON THE
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  • PHONE, WHO I JUST HAD LUNCH
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  • WITH.
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  • HE SAID, "PASTOR, MY WIFE AND I
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  • HAD BEEN TALKING FOR SOME TIME,
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  • AND WE WANNA MAKE THE LEAD GIFT
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  • TO THIS BUILDING."
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  • AND HE GAVE ME A FIGURE,
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  • MATT AND LAURIE.
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  • I'M NOT GONNA TELL YOU WHAT IT
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  • WAS.
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  • IT'S THE LARGEST SINGLE GIFT,
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  • NOT ONLY GIVEN TO OUR CHURCH,
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  • BUT TO ANY CHURCH IN HISTORY, AS
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  • THE LEAD GIFT.
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  • I NEARLY DROVE OFF THE ROAD!
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  • I THOUGHT, "TALK ABOUT A SIGN
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  • COMING EXACTLY WHEN--" YOU
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  • KNOW, LATER ON, I TOLD HIM HOW I
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  • HAD PRAYED THAT DAY.
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  • HE SAID, "I DON'T KNOW WHY I
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  • CALLED YOU AT THAT PARTICULAR
  • 00:07:00.240 --> 00:07:02.010
  • TIME.
  • 00:07:02.010 --> 00:07:02.180
  • MY WIFE AND I HAD BEEN TALKIN'
  • 00:07:02.180 --> 00:07:03.290
  • ABOUT IT FOR 6 MONTHS."
  • 00:07:03.290 --> 00:07:05.050
  • I SAID,
  • 00:07:05.050 --> 00:07:06.100
  • "I KNOW WHY YOU CALLED: BECAUSE
  • 00:07:06.100 --> 00:07:07.020
  • GOD PRESSED IT UPON YOUR HEART."
  • 00:07:07.020 --> 00:07:09.260
  • ANYWAY, THAT WAS THE GIFT.
  • 00:07:09.260 --> 00:07:11.280
  • THE PEOPLE GAVE, IN THE MIDST OF
  • 00:07:11.280 --> 00:07:12.260
  • THIS GREAT RECESSION, AND OUR
  • 00:07:12.260 --> 00:07:15.080
  • BUILDING IS DEBT FREE,
  • 00:07:15.080 --> 00:07:17.000
  • COMPLETELY PAID FOR, AND THAT
  • 00:07:17.000 --> 00:07:18.070
  • WAS GOD WORKING AT OUR CHURCH.
  • 00:07:18.070 --> 00:07:20.210
  • - MATT: THAT IS AMAZING, WOW!
  • 00:07:20.210 --> 00:07:22.010
  • - LAURIE: I LOVE THAT!
  • 00:07:22.010 --> 00:07:23.170
  • - MATT: YOU KNOW, SO YOU ARE
  • 00:07:23.170 --> 00:07:24.110
  • NOT ONLY, YOU KNOW, HERE ON TBN
  • 00:07:25.140 --> 00:07:28.140
  • EVERY WEEK.
  • 00:07:28.140 --> 00:07:30.230
  • AND YOU KNOW THE RATINGS, BY THE
  • 00:07:31.100 --> 00:07:34.100
  • WAY, SHOW THAT THE SATURDAY
  • 00:07:34.100 --> 00:07:36.140
  • NIGHT BROADCAST, PEOPLE LOVE
  • 00:07:36.140 --> 00:07:37.250
  • WATCHING YOUR BROADCAST ON
  • 00:07:37.250 --> 00:07:39.250
  • - ROBERT: WELL, IT'S AN HONOR
  • 00:07:42.060 --> 00:07:43.110
  • TO BE A PART OF TBN.
  • 00:07:43.110 --> 00:07:44.210
  • - MATT: IT'S REALLY
  • 00:07:44.210 --> 00:07:46.020
  • ASTONISHING.
  • 00:07:46.020 --> 00:07:47.110
  • "PATHWAY TO VICTORY," SATURDAYS
  • 00:07:47.110 --> 00:07:48.220
  • AT 7 P.M., AND 11 A.M., PACIFIC,
  • 00:07:48.220 --> 00:07:50.090
  • ON SUNDAYS.
  • 00:07:51.070 --> 00:07:54.070
  • HELPING US DO THE MISSION OF
  • 00:07:58.250 --> 00:07:59.150
  • CHRISTIAN TELEVISION.
  • 00:07:59.150 --> 00:08:00.040
  • SO THANK YOU FOR DOIN' THAT.
  • 00:08:00.040 --> 00:08:01.120
  • - ROBERT: WELL, IT'S AN HONOR.
  • 00:08:01.120 --> 00:08:02.040
  • - MATT: YOU WROTE A BOOK CALLED
  • 00:08:02.040 --> 00:08:02.280
  • "THE GIFT.
  • 00:08:02.280 --> 00:08:03.190
  • WE'RE GOING TO KEEP HOLDING IT
  • 00:08:03.190 --> 00:08:05.020
  • UP.
  • 00:08:05.020 --> 00:08:07.050
  • WE HAVE MADE ARRANGEMENTS WITH
  • 00:08:07.050 --> 00:08:07.260
  • YOUR MINISTRY, PASTOR, AND WE'RE
  • 00:08:07.260 --> 00:08:08.230
  • MAKING THESE AVAILABLE FOR A
  • 00:08:08.250 --> 00:08:11.250
  • LOVE GIFT OF ANY AMOUNT TO
  • 00:08:11.250 --> 00:08:12.290
  • TRINITY.
  • 00:08:12.290 --> 00:08:14.180
  • AND THE OPERATORS ARE READY FOR
  • 00:08:17.230 --> 00:08:18.190
  • THIS.
  • 00:08:18.190 --> 00:08:19.180
  • WHY DID YOU WRITE THIS BOOK IN
  • 00:08:19.180 --> 00:08:20.090
  • CASE SOMEBODY JUST TUNED IN?
  • 00:08:20.090 --> 00:08:21.060
  • - ROBERT: WELL, YOU KNOW, WE AS
  • 00:08:21.060 --> 00:08:22.260
  • PARENTS, WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO SO
  • 00:08:22.260 --> 00:08:24.130
  • MANY THINGS WITH OUR CHILDREN,
  • 00:08:24.130 --> 00:08:25.220
  • AND THERE'S SHORT AMOUNT OF
  • 00:08:25.220 --> 00:08:26.200
  • TIME.
  • 00:08:26.200 --> 00:08:28.000
  • I MEAN, MY GIRLS ARE NOW GROWN
  • 00:08:28.000 --> 00:08:29.100
  • AND GONE, AND THOSE 18 YEARS,
  • 00:08:29.100 --> 00:08:30.170
  • THEY WENT BY JUST LIKE THAT.
  • 00:08:30.170 --> 00:08:32.110
  • YOU'VE GOT TO TRAIN THEM FOR
  • 00:08:32.110 --> 00:08:34.240
  • LIFE, TRAIN THEM TO BE
  • 00:08:34.240 --> 00:08:36.070
  • RESPONSIBLE AND SO FORTH, BUT
  • 00:08:36.070 --> 00:08:38.000
  • THE MOST IMPORTANT TASK WE HAVE
  • 00:08:38.000 --> 00:08:39.100
  • IS TO LEAD THEM TO FAITH IN
  • 00:08:39.100 --> 00:08:40.080
  • CHRIST.
  • 00:08:40.080 --> 00:08:43.000
  • AND, YOU KNOW, I WOULD SAY TO
  • 00:08:43.000 --> 00:08:43.280
  • PARENTS OR GRANDPARENTS WATCHING
  • 00:08:43.280 --> 00:08:44.280
  • RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW, IF YOU
  • 00:08:44.280 --> 00:08:46.080
  • WANNA KNOW THAT YOUR CHILDREN
  • 00:08:46.080 --> 00:08:48.040
  • ARE GONNA BE IN HEAVEN WITH YOU
  • 00:08:48.040 --> 00:08:49.040
  • ONE DAY, THERE'S SOME THINGS YOU
  • 00:08:49.040 --> 00:08:50.210
  • OUGHT TO DO.
  • 00:08:50.210 --> 00:08:52.170
  • AMY AND I DID WITH OUR GIRLS,
  • 00:08:52.170 --> 00:08:53.250
  • YOU KNOW, WE STARTED PRAYING FOR
  • 00:08:53.250 --> 00:08:55.210
  • THEIR SALVATION BEFORE THEY WERE
  • 00:08:55.210 --> 00:08:56.220
  • EVEN BORN.
  • 00:08:56.220 --> 00:08:58.080
  • - MATT: WOW.
  • 00:08:58.080 --> 00:08:58.240
  • - ROBERT: WHILE THEY WERE IN
  • 00:08:58.240 --> 00:08:59.250
  • WE PRAYED FOR THEM.
  • 00:09:02.140 --> 00:09:03.090
  • I THINK WE NEED TO PRAY FOR OUR
  • 00:09:03.090 --> 00:09:04.020
  • CHILDREN.
  • 00:09:04.020 --> 00:09:05.110
  • SECONDLY, I THINK WE NEED TO BE
  • 00:09:05.110 --> 00:09:06.030
  • OPEN TO THE IDEA OF THEIR
  • 00:09:06.030 --> 00:09:06.230
  • SALVATION EARLY IN LIFE.
  • 00:09:07.110 --> 00:09:10.110
  • HERE'S ONE STATISTIC THAT
  • 00:09:10.110 --> 00:09:11.000
  • GRABBED ME BY THE THROAT: 85%
  • 00:09:11.000 --> 00:09:11.250
  • OF CHRISTIANS BECOME CHRISTIANS
  • 00:09:11.280 --> 00:09:14.280
  • BEFORE THEY'RE 15 YEARS OF AGE.
  • 00:09:14.280 --> 00:09:16.260
  • THE OLDER YOU GET PAST 15, THE
  • 00:09:16.260 --> 00:09:19.140
  • LESS LIKELY YOU EVER ARE TO
  • 00:09:19.140 --> 00:09:21.110
  • BECOME A CHRISTIAN.
  • 00:09:21.110 --> 00:09:23.250
  • SO WE NEED TO BE OPEN TO THEIR
  • 00:09:23.250 --> 00:09:24.170
  • SALVATION.
  • 00:09:24.170 --> 00:09:25.010
  • YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE, SOME
  • 00:09:25.010 --> 00:09:26.150
  • THINK THAT CHILDREN NEED TO BE
  • 00:09:30.070 --> 00:09:30.290
  • MORE LIKE ADULTS BEFORE THEY CAN
  • 00:09:30.290 --> 00:09:31.210
  • BE SAVED.
  • 00:09:31.210 --> 00:09:32.210
  • NO, THAT'S BACKWARDS.
  • 00:09:32.210 --> 00:09:34.010
  • JESUS SAID ADULTS NEED TO BECOME
  • 00:09:34.010 --> 00:09:34.270
  • LIKE CHILDREN IN ORDER TO BE
  • 00:09:34.270 --> 00:09:35.180
  • SAVED.
  • 00:09:35.180 --> 00:09:36.280
  • THEY DON'T HAVE ALL THAT
  • 00:09:36.280 --> 00:09:37.170
  • BAGGAGE.
  • 00:09:37.170 --> 00:09:39.010
  • THEIR HEARTS ARE NATURALLY OPEN
  • 00:09:39.010 --> 00:09:40.110
  • TOWARD THE GOSPEL.
  • 00:09:40.110 --> 00:09:41.030
  • BUT THEN, AND THIS IS SO KEY, WE
  • 00:09:41.030 --> 00:09:43.070
  • NEED TO SIT DOWN AND ACTUALLY
  • 00:09:43.070 --> 00:09:45.010
  • EXPLAIN THE GOSPEL TO OUR
  • 00:09:45.010 --> 00:09:46.210
  • CHILDREN, AND THAT'S WHAT THIS
  • 00:09:46.210 --> 00:09:47.130
  • BOOK, "THE GIFT," IS ALL ABOUT.
  • 00:09:47.130 --> 00:09:49.150
  • A LOT OF PARENTS SAY, "WELL, I
  • 00:09:49.150 --> 00:09:50.290
  • WOULDN'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY TO MY
  • 00:09:50.290 --> 00:09:51.240
  • CHILD."
  • 00:09:51.240 --> 00:09:53.020
  • WELL, THERE'S SOME THINGS YOU
  • 00:09:53.020 --> 00:09:54.110
  • NEED TO SAY, AND SOME
  • 00:09:54.110 --> 00:09:56.000
  • THINGS YOU DON'T NEED TO SAY.
  • 00:09:56.000 --> 00:09:58.010
  • YOU KNOW, THE BIGGEST MISTAKE
  • 00:09:58.010 --> 00:09:58.220
  • PARENTS MAKE OR PREACHERS MAKE
  • 00:09:58.220 --> 00:10:00.190
  • WHEN THEY'RE PRESENTING THE
  • 00:10:00.190 --> 00:10:02.090
  • GOSPEL TO CHILDREN, THEY SAY,
  • 00:10:02.090 --> 00:10:03.230
  • "WOULDN'T YOU LIKE TO INVITE
  • 00:10:03.230 --> 00:10:05.010
  • JESUS INTO YOUR HEART?"
  • 00:10:05.010 --> 00:10:06.190
  • WELL, WHAT CHILD WOULDN'T WANT
  • 00:10:06.190 --> 00:10:08.090
  • JESUS IN HIS HEART?
  • 00:10:08.090 --> 00:10:09.290
  • BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT SALVATION IS
  • 00:10:09.290 --> 00:10:11.000
  • ABOUT.
  • 00:10:11.000 --> 00:10:12.100
  • SALVATION IS TRUSTING IN JESUS
  • 00:10:12.190 --> 00:10:15.190
  • TO FORGIVE YOU OF YOUR SINS.
  • 00:10:15.190 --> 00:10:17.130
  • IT'S NOT JESUS IN YOUR HEART.
  • 00:10:17.130 --> 00:10:19.160
  • THAT'S THE RESULT, BUT THAT'S
  • 00:10:19.160 --> 00:10:20.190
  • NOT THE MEANS OF SALVATION.
  • 00:10:20.190 --> 00:10:22.210
  • IT IS TRUSTING, BELIEVING IN THE
  • 00:10:22.210 --> 00:10:24.110
  • LORD JESUS CHRIST.
  • 00:10:24.110 --> 00:10:25.240
  • AND I TAKE THAT COMPLEX ISSUE
  • 00:10:25.240 --> 00:10:27.280
  • AND BREAK IT DOWN IN FOUR STEPS
  • 00:10:27.280 --> 00:10:29.250
  • AND ILLUSTRATE IT IN THIS STORY
  • 00:10:29.250 --> 00:10:31.270
  • WHERE A CHILD CAN UNDERSTAND IT.
  • 00:10:31.270 --> 00:10:33.090
  • WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT ALL
  • 00:10:33.090 --> 00:10:34.270
  • OF US HAVE SINNED, AND I TALK
  • 00:10:34.270 --> 00:10:36.220
  • ABOUT WHAT SIN IS; SECONDLY,
  • 00:10:36.220 --> 00:10:38.060
  • THAT WE DESERVE TO BE PUNISHED
  • 00:10:38.060 --> 00:10:39.290
  • FOR OUR SINS.
  • 00:10:39.290 --> 00:10:41.020
  • WE TALK ABOUT WHAT IT MEANS TO
  • 00:10:41.020 --> 00:10:42.240
  • BE PUNISHED.
  • 00:10:42.240 --> 00:10:43.190
  • THIRDLY, WE BELIEVE THAT JESUS
  • 00:10:43.190 --> 00:10:45.040
  • PAID FOR OUR SINS, AND I USE
  • 00:10:45.040 --> 00:10:47.140
  • ILLUSTRATIONS THAT CHILDREN CAN
  • 00:10:47.140 --> 00:10:49.010
  • UNDERSTAND.
  • 00:10:49.010 --> 00:10:49.210
  • AND, THEN, FINALLY, WE MUST
  • 00:10:49.210 --> 00:10:52.070
  • PERSONALLY TRUST IN JESUS FOR
  • 00:10:52.070 --> 00:10:52.290
  • OUR FORGIVENESS.
  • 00:10:53.210 --> 00:10:56.210
  • AND THEN WE LEAD THEM IN A
  • 00:10:56.210 --> 00:10:57.110
  • PRAYER THAT THEY CAN PRAY.
  • 00:10:57.110 --> 00:10:58.200
  • NOW, THAT'S THE FIRST HALF OF
  • 00:10:58.200 --> 00:11:00.050
  • THE BOOK, "THE GIFT," RECEIVING
  • 00:11:00.050 --> 00:11:01.200
  • THE GIFT, BUT THE SECOND PART OF
  • 00:11:01.200 --> 00:11:03.180
  • THE BOOK IS CALLED "ENJOYING
  • 00:11:03.180 --> 00:11:04.200
  • THE GIFT," AND IT'S WHAT A CHILD
  • 00:11:04.200 --> 00:11:05.270
  • DOES AFTER HE BECOMES A
  • 00:11:05.270 --> 00:11:07.160
  • CHRISTIAN: HOW TO PRAY, HOW TO
  • 00:11:07.160 --> 00:11:08.270
  • SHARE HIS FAITH WITH OTHERS, AND
  • 00:11:08.270 --> 00:11:10.200
  • SO FORTH.
  • 00:11:10.200 --> 00:11:12.070
  • - MATT: OKAY.
  • 00:11:12.070 --> 00:11:13.210
  • LET ME JUST RESET FOR ONE--
  • 00:11:13.210 --> 00:11:14.270
  • IT FEELS LIKE I
  • 00:11:14.270 --> 00:11:15.210
  • WAS JUST WATCHING FOX NEWS.
  • 00:11:15.210 --> 00:11:17.260
  • YOU WERE BREAKING DOWN THE BOOK
  • 00:11:17.260 --> 00:11:19.260
  • IN SUCH CLEAR, PRECISE-- IT'S
  • 00:11:19.260 --> 00:11:20.270
  • LIKE--
  • 00:11:20.270 --> 00:11:23.190
  • - ROBERT: WELL, THANK YOU,
  • 00:11:23.190 --> 00:11:24.150
  • MR. O'REILLY!
  • 00:11:24.150 --> 00:11:25.040
  • OH, I'M SORRY!
  • 00:11:25.040 --> 00:11:25.180
  • NO, NOT BILL, UH, MATT!
  • 00:11:25.180 --> 00:11:26.200
  • - MATT: OKAY, FIRST OF ALL,
  • 00:11:26.200 --> 00:11:27.290
  • YOU'RE A REAL PERSON.
  • 00:11:27.290 --> 00:11:28.230
  • YOU'RE NOT AN ANDROID, RIGHT?
  • 00:11:28.230 --> 00:11:30.070
  • BECAUSE YOU DO THAT REALLY WELL!
  • 00:11:30.070 --> 00:11:30.290
  • SO SOMETIMES I THINK YOU'RE A
  • 00:11:30.290 --> 00:11:32.070
  • ROBOT!
  • 00:11:32.070 --> 00:11:33.090
  • BUT THE-- OKAY, LISTEN!
  • 00:11:33.090 --> 00:11:35.230
  • AMAZING CLARITY, AND PARENTS
  • 00:11:36.010 --> 00:11:39.010
  • COULD BE KIND OF TALKING ABOUT
  • 00:11:40.030 --> 00:11:43.030
  • THIS REALLY INCORRECTLY, OUR
  • 00:11:43.030 --> 00:11:45.000
  • GRANDPARENTS-- YOU KNOW, "THE
  • 00:11:45.000 --> 00:11:45.210
  • GIFT"--
  • 00:11:45.210 --> 00:11:46.190
  • - LAURIE: I CAN SEE SO MANY
  • 00:11:46.190 --> 00:11:47.090
  • GRANDPARENTS THOUGH USING THIS
  • 00:11:47.090 --> 00:11:48.100
  • BECAUSE SO MANY ADULTS AREN'T
  • 00:11:48.100 --> 00:11:50.130
  • CHRISTIANS YET--
  • 00:11:50.170 --> 00:11:53.170
  • - MATT: YEAH, OR GRANDMA AND
  • 00:11:53.170 --> 00:11:54.290
  • GRANDPA, YEAH.
  • 00:11:54.290 --> 00:11:55.130
  • - LAURIE: -- YOU KNOW, AND
  • 00:11:55.130 --> 00:11:56.130
  • THEY'RE GRANDMA AND GRANDPAS.
  • 00:11:56.130 --> 00:11:57.040
  • - ROBERT: LISTEN, LAURIE, YOU
  • 00:11:57.040 --> 00:11:57.250
  • HAVE HIT ON A KEY REASON I WROTE
  • 00:11:57.250 --> 00:11:58.170
  • THIS.
  • 00:11:58.170 --> 00:11:58.260
  • A LOT OF GRANDPARENTS WATCHING
  • 00:11:58.260 --> 00:11:59.180
  • RIGHT NOW, YOU'RE CONCERNED
  • 00:11:59.180 --> 00:12:01.000
  • BECAUSE YOUR GRANDCHILD IS BEING
  • 00:12:01.000 --> 00:12:02.150
  • RAISED, REARED IN A HOME WHERE
  • 00:12:02.150 --> 00:12:04.150
  • CHRIST ISN'T CENTRAL FOR
  • 00:12:04.150 --> 00:12:06.080
  • WHATEVER REASON.
  • 00:12:06.080 --> 00:12:08.020
  • HERE'S A WAY, GRANDPARENTS, YOU
  • 00:12:08.020 --> 00:12:10.140
  • CAN BYPASS YOUR CHILDREN AND GET
  • 00:12:10.140 --> 00:12:11.270
  • TO YOUR GRANDCHILDREN.
  • 00:12:11.270 --> 00:12:14.200
  • GIVE YOUR GRANDCHILD A COPY OF
  • 00:12:14.200 --> 00:12:16.050
  • "THE GIFT" FOR A BIRTHDAY, FOR A
  • 00:12:16.050 --> 00:12:16.290
  • CHRISTMAS GIFT.
  • 00:12:16.290 --> 00:12:19.050
  • WE'RE COMING UPON EASTER-- FOR
  • 00:12:19.050 --> 00:12:20.010
  • AN EASTER GIFT.
  • 00:12:20.010 --> 00:12:21.260
  • WHAT A GREAT TOOL TO GET
  • 00:12:21.260 --> 00:12:22.210
  • DIRECTLY TO THAT CHILD'S
  • 00:12:22.210 --> 00:12:23.210
  • - LAURIE: HAVE IT JUST SITTING
  • 00:12:26.280 --> 00:12:27.200
  • AROUND THE HOUSE.
  • 00:12:27.200 --> 00:12:28.050
  • - MATT: BEAUTIFUL.
  • 00:12:28.050 --> 00:12:28.290
  • WOW!
  • 00:12:28.290 --> 00:12:29.140
  • - LAURIE: YEAH, THAT'S GREAT!
  • 00:12:29.140 --> 00:12:30.050
  • SO BEAUTIFUL.
  • 00:12:30.050 --> 00:12:30.180
  • - MATT: SO BASICALLY, THIS IS
  • 00:12:30.180 --> 00:12:33.040
  • SELF-PUBLISHED BY PASTOR ROBERT
  • 00:12:33.040 --> 00:12:34.190
  • JEFFRESS' MINISTRY.
  • 00:12:34.190 --> 00:12:37.180
  • WE ARE MAKING THEM AVAILABLE FOR
  • 00:12:43.000 --> 00:12:43.230
  • YOU BY DIALING THE NUMBER ON THE
  • 00:12:43.230 --> 00:12:44.160
  • SCREEN.
  • 00:12:44.160 --> 00:12:45.230
  • OKAY, A LITTLE WHILE AGO, YOU
  • 00:12:45.230 --> 00:12:47.190
  • WERE DESCRIBING YOUR FATHER
  • 00:12:48.040 --> 00:12:51.040
  • LEADING YOU TO CHRIST, WHICH IS
  • 00:12:51.040 --> 00:12:53.120
  • KIND OF, THE, YOU KNOW, INSIDE
  • 00:12:53.120 --> 00:12:54.100
  • OF THIS SUBJECT MATTER.
  • 00:12:54.100 --> 00:12:56.160
  • BUT THEN YOU WENT TO PASTOR
  • 00:12:57.070 --> 00:13:00.090
  • CRISWELL AND PRAYED AGAIN.
  • 00:13:00.090 --> 00:13:01.290
  • - MATT: OKAY, THAT MADE ME
  • 00:13:04.270 --> 00:13:05.170
  • THINK OF ETERNAL SECURITY.
  • 00:13:05.170 --> 00:13:07.000
  • SO THE IDEA THAT ETERNAL
  • 00:13:07.000 --> 00:13:08.260
  • SECURITY-- YOU KNOW, YOU PASTOR
  • 00:13:10.220 --> 00:13:13.220
  • ONE OF THE MOST FAMED BAPTIST
  • 00:13:13.220 --> 00:13:15.000
  • CHURCHES, AND, YOU KNOW, IF
  • 00:13:15.000 --> 00:13:16.050
  • THERE'S ONE THING THAT BAPTIST
  • 00:13:16.050 --> 00:13:18.060
  • DOCTRINE KIND OF WEARS ON ITS
  • 00:13:18.060 --> 00:13:19.260
  • SLEEVE, IT'S ETERNAL SECURITY.
  • 00:13:19.260 --> 00:13:20.200
  • IS THAT TRUE?
  • 00:13:20.200 --> 00:13:22.020
  • - ROBERT: IT IS TRUE--
  • 00:13:22.020 --> 00:13:22.290
  • - ROBERT: -- AS LONG AS YOU
  • 00:13:26.160 --> 00:13:27.060
  • UNDERSTAND THE ETERNAL SECURITY
  • 00:13:27.060 --> 00:13:28.170
  • OF THE BELIEVER ONLY APPLIES TO
  • 00:13:28.170 --> 00:13:29.090
  • BELIEVERS, AND I THINK THE BIG
  • 00:13:29.090 --> 00:13:31.080
  • MISTAKE BAPTISTS HAVE MADE
  • 00:13:31.080 --> 00:13:34.030
  • HISTORICALLY IS WE TRY TO ARGUE
  • 00:13:34.030 --> 00:13:34.250
  • ETERNAL SECURITY FOR PEOPLE WHO
  • 00:13:34.250 --> 00:13:35.240
  • DESERVE NO SECURITY.
  • 00:13:35.240 --> 00:13:38.150
  • THEY OUGHT TO BE INSECURE
  • 00:13:38.150 --> 00:13:39.090
  • BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT TRULY SAVED.
  • 00:13:39.090 --> 00:13:41.140
  • WE GIVE THIS IDEA THAT, "OH, IF
  • 00:13:41.140 --> 00:13:42.170
  • YOU BELIEVE A CERTAIN SET OF
  • 00:13:42.170 --> 00:13:43.200
  • FACTS ABOUT JESUS, THAT HE WAS
  • 00:13:43.200 --> 00:13:44.260
  • WHO DIED ON THE CROSS FOR THE
  • 00:13:48.260 --> 00:13:50.260
  • SINS OF THE WORLD AND ROSE AGAIN
  • 00:13:50.260 --> 00:13:52.060
  • ON THE THIRD DAY, IF YOU BELIEVE
  • 00:13:52.060 --> 00:13:53.180
  • THOSE INTELLECTUALLY, YOU'RE
  • 00:13:53.180 --> 00:13:54.200
  • GOING TO HEAVEN."
  • 00:13:54.200 --> 00:13:55.090
  • WELL, LET ME TELL
  • 00:13:55.090 --> 00:13:56.110
  • YOU SOMETHING.
  • 00:13:56.110 --> 00:13:56.270
  • DID YOU KNOW THAT DEMONS BELIEVE
  • 00:13:56.270 --> 00:13:57.200
  • EVERY ONE OF THOSE THINGS?
  • 00:13:57.200 --> 00:13:59.070
  • THE DEMONS BELIEVE THAT JESUS
  • 00:13:59.070 --> 00:14:00.040
  • WAS THE SON OF GOD.
  • 00:14:00.040 --> 00:14:02.200
  • THE DEMONS BELIEVE HE DIED ON
  • 00:14:02.200 --> 00:14:03.110
  • THE CROSS FOR THE SINS OF THE
  • 00:14:03.110 --> 00:14:04.110
  • WORLD, AND DEMONS BELIEVE HE
  • 00:14:04.110 --> 00:14:06.000
  • ROSE AGAIN FROM THE DEAD, MORE
  • 00:14:06.000 --> 00:14:07.220
  • THAN YOU DO, MORE THAN I DO,
  • 00:14:08.020 --> 00:14:11.020
  • BECAUSE THEY WERE THERE AND SAW
  • 00:14:11.020 --> 00:14:11.290
  • IT.
  • 00:14:11.290 --> 00:14:13.270
  • NO, THAT'S NOT WHAT IT MEANS TO
  • 00:14:13.270 --> 00:14:15.050
  • BE A CHRISTIAN.
  • 00:14:15.050 --> 00:14:15.200
  • IT IS A MATTER OF TRUST.
  • 00:14:15.200 --> 00:14:17.270
  • IT MEANS BELIEVING NOT THAT
  • 00:14:17.270 --> 00:14:19.040
  • JESUS DIED FOR THE SINS OF THE
  • 00:14:19.040 --> 00:14:20.150
  • WORLD, BUT HE DIED FOR MY SINS,
  • 00:14:20.150 --> 00:14:21.230
  • AND I AM TRUSTING, LEANING ON,
  • 00:14:21.230 --> 00:14:23.250
  • DEPENDING ON JESUS TO SAVE ME.
  • 00:14:23.250 --> 00:14:25.190
  • WHAT WE DO, MATT, IS, AND
  • 00:14:25.190 --> 00:14:28.150
  • LAURIE, WE SAY, "OH, THIS PERSON
  • 00:14:28.150 --> 00:14:30.280
  • MADE A PROFESSION OF FAITH WHEN
  • 00:14:30.280 --> 00:14:32.150
  • THEY WERE 6 YEARS OLD."
  • 00:14:32.150 --> 00:14:34.040
  • BUT THERE'S NEVER BEEN
  • 00:14:34.040 --> 00:14:35.130
  • ANY EVIDENCE IN THEIR LIFE
  • 00:14:35.130 --> 00:14:36.190
  • OF IT SINCE THEN.
  • 00:14:36.190 --> 00:14:37.230
  • THERE'S NO FRUIT.
  • 00:14:37.230 --> 00:14:39.130
  • THEY HAVE NO INTEREST IN
  • 00:14:39.130 --> 00:14:40.020
  • SPIRITUAL THINGS.
  • 00:14:40.020 --> 00:14:40.290
  • BUT THEY'RE ETERNALLY SECURE?
  • 00:14:40.290 --> 00:14:42.000
  • NO, NO.
  • 00:14:42.000 --> 00:14:43.240
  • THE BIBLE'S VERY CLEAR: WHERE
  • 00:14:43.240 --> 00:14:45.160
  • THERE IS NO FRUIT, THERE IS NO
  • 00:14:45.160 --> 00:14:47.110
  • FAITH.
  • 00:14:47.110 --> 00:14:49.210
  • JAMES SAID, FAITH WITHOUT WORKS
  • 00:14:49.210 --> 00:14:50.250
  • IS A DEAD, NONEXISTENT FAITH.
  • 00:14:50.250 --> 00:14:53.220
  • IT'S NOT THE FACT THAT THEY LOST
  • 00:14:53.220 --> 00:14:54.180
  • THEIR SALVATION.
  • 00:14:54.180 --> 00:14:55.260
  • THEY NEVER HAD IT TO BEGIN WITH.
  • 00:14:55.260 --> 00:14:57.010
  • - MATT: OKAY, SO WHEN A PERSON
  • 00:15:00.060 --> 00:15:03.060
  • IS TRUSTING, CAN-- IS IT
  • 00:15:03.060 --> 00:15:04.060
  • IMPOSSIBLE FOR THEM TO FALL AWAY
  • 00:15:04.060 --> 00:15:04.290
  • THEN, ONCE THEY BEGIN TRUSTING,
  • 00:15:04.290 --> 00:15:06.200
  • OR ARE THERE TRUE TIMES WHEN
  • 00:15:06.200 --> 00:15:08.090
  • PEOPLE THAT HAVE TRUSTED IN
  • 00:15:09.140 --> 00:15:12.140
  • CHRIST FOR THEIR SALVATION, WALK
  • 00:15:12.140 --> 00:15:13.120
  • AWAY FROM IT?
  • 00:15:13.120 --> 00:15:14.070
  • - ROBERT: THE ONLY TIME YOU
  • 00:15:14.070 --> 00:15:15.230
  • FIND THE PHRASE "FALLEN FROM
  • 00:15:15.230 --> 00:15:18.180
  • GRACE" IN THE BIBLE IS, YOU
  • 00:15:18.180 --> 00:15:19.240
  • KNOW, IS IN PAUL'S LETTER TO THE
  • 00:15:19.240 --> 00:15:20.200
  • GALATIANS.
  • 00:15:20.200 --> 00:15:21.120
  • BUT WHEN HE SAYS, "YOU HAVE
  • 00:15:21.120 --> 00:15:22.020
  • FALLEN FROM GRACE," HE'S NOT
  • 00:15:22.020 --> 00:15:23.010
  • TALKING ABOUT LOSING SALVATION.
  • 00:15:23.010 --> 00:15:24.180
  • HE'S TALKING ABOUT THOSE WHO
  • 00:15:24.180 --> 00:15:27.040
  • HAVE GIVEN UP GRACE AND GONE
  • 00:15:27.040 --> 00:15:28.110
  • BACK TO A WORKS SYSTEM TO
  • 00:15:28.110 --> 00:15:30.080
  • SALVATION, THE JUDAIZERS.
  • 00:15:30.080 --> 00:15:30.270
  • "YOU'VE FALLEN AWAY FROM THE
  • 00:15:30.270 --> 00:15:33.060
  • DOCTRINE OF GRACE AND GONE BACK
  • 00:15:33.060 --> 00:15:33.280
  • TO THE JUDAIZERS."
  • 00:15:33.280 --> 00:15:35.110
  • LOOK, ROMANS 11:29 SAYS,
  • 00:15:35.110 --> 00:15:37.150
  • "THE GIFTS AND THE CALLING
  • 00:15:37.150 --> 00:15:39.110
  • OF GOD ARE IRREVOCABLE."
  • 00:15:39.110 --> 00:15:40.100
  • THEY'RE IRREVOCABLE.
  • 00:15:40.100 --> 00:15:42.110
  • I GUESS IT'S NOT POLITICALLY
  • 00:15:42.110 --> 00:15:44.110
  • CORRECT TO SAY-- I USED TO SAY,
  • 00:15:44.110 --> 00:15:46.000
  • "GOD'S NOT AN INDIAN GIVER," BUT
  • 00:15:46.000 --> 00:15:48.010
  • I DON'T THINK YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO
  • 00:15:48.010 --> 00:15:48.290
  • SAY THAT TODAY, BUT YOU KNOW--
  • 00:15:48.290 --> 00:15:49.210
  • - LAURIE: I'M AN INDIAN.
  • 00:15:49.210 --> 00:15:50.140
  • IT'S OKAY!
  • 00:15:50.140 --> 00:15:51.030
  • I'M HERE!
  • 00:15:51.030 --> 00:15:51.180
  • I'M A CARD-CARRYING INDIAN!
  • 00:15:51.180 --> 00:15:54.020
  • YOU CAN SAY THAT!
  • 00:15:54.020 --> 00:15:54.220
  • - ROBERT: WELL, BUT THAT'S
  • 00:15:54.220 --> 00:15:55.260
  • TRUE, BUT HERE, SEE, THE REASON
  • 00:15:55.260 --> 00:15:56.230
  • PEOPLE GET HUNG UP ON THIS IS
  • 00:15:56.230 --> 00:15:59.030
  • THEY THINK SALVATION IS "MY
  • 00:15:59.040 --> 00:16:02.060
  • REACHING UP AND GRABBING HOLD OF
  • 00:16:02.060 --> 00:16:03.200
  • WELL, IF THAT'S WHAT SALVATION
  • 00:16:06.230 --> 00:16:07.150
  • IS, WHAT HAPPENS IF, BECAUSE OF
  • 00:16:07.150 --> 00:16:08.180
  • DOUBT OR SOME TERRIBLE
  • 00:16:08.180 --> 00:16:09.220
  • CIRCUMSTANCE IN MY LIFE, I
  • 00:16:09.220 --> 00:16:11.130
  • LESSEN MY GRIP ON GOD, OR I LET
  • 00:16:11.130 --> 00:16:12.130
  • GO?
  • 00:16:12.130 --> 00:16:14.020
  • BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT SALVATION
  • 00:16:14.020 --> 00:16:15.140
  • SALVATION DID NOT START WITH MY
  • 00:16:17.250 --> 00:16:18.170
  • REACHING UP AND GRABBING HOLD OF
  • 00:16:18.170 --> 00:16:19.100
  • GOD.
  • 00:16:19.100 --> 00:16:20.060
  • IT STARTED WITH GOD REACHING
  • 00:16:20.060 --> 00:16:20.270
  • DOWN AND GRABBING HOLD OF ME.
  • 00:16:20.270 --> 00:16:22.220
  • - LAURIE: I LOVE THAT.
  • 00:16:22.220 --> 00:16:23.200
  • - ROBERT: 1 JOHN SAYS, "HEREIN
  • 00:16:23.200 --> 00:16:24.170
  • IS LOVE, NOT THAT WE LOVED GOD,
  • 00:16:24.170 --> 00:16:25.230
  • BUT THAT HE LOVED US, AND GAVE
  • 00:16:25.230 --> 00:16:27.110
  • HIMSELF AS A PROPITIATION FOR
  • 00:16:27.110 --> 00:16:29.000
  • OUR SINS."
  • 00:16:29.000 --> 00:16:30.260
  • - MATT: BEAUTIFUL.
  • 00:16:30.260 --> 00:16:32.040
  • - LAURIE: YEAH, I LOVE THAT!
  • 00:16:32.040 --> 00:16:33.020
  • - MATT: YOU'RE REALLY GOOD AT
  • 00:16:33.020 --> 00:16:33.230
  • EXPLAINING THINGS.
  • 00:16:33.230 --> 00:16:34.210
  • - LAURIE: YEAH, I COULD SIT
  • 00:16:34.210 --> 00:16:35.200
  • HERE FOR A WHILE!
  • 00:16:35.200 --> 00:16:36.260
  • - MATT: OKAY, SO TWO LINES CUT
  • 00:16:36.260 --> 00:16:39.050
  • BY A TRANSVERSAL SO THAT
  • 00:16:39.050 --> 00:16:40.230
  • ALTERNATE INTERIORS OR ANGLES
  • 00:16:40.230 --> 00:16:42.160
  • ARE CONGRUENT, THE LINES ARE
  • 00:16:42.160 --> 00:16:43.090
  • PARALLEL-- SO CAN YOU EXPLAIN
  • 00:16:43.090 --> 00:16:44.240
  • GEOMETRY BETTER TO ME?
  • 00:16:44.240 --> 00:16:46.290
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:16:46.290 --> 00:16:48.060
  • - ROBERT: YOU LOST ME RIGHT
  • 00:16:48.060 --> 00:16:49.040
  • THERE!
  • 00:16:49.040 --> 00:16:50.150
  • YOU...YOU LOST ME!
  • 00:16:50.150 --> 00:16:51.020
  • - MATT: WELL, THANK GOD, I LOST
  • 00:16:51.020 --> 00:16:52.030
  • YOU ON SOMETHING, OKAY!
  • 00:16:52.030 --> 00:16:53.240
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:16:54.240 --> 00:16:57.240
  • HE IS THE AUTHOR OF THE BOOK,
  • 00:16:57.240 --> 00:16:59.060
  • AND YOU ARE SEEN ON FOX NEWS A
  • 00:17:02.070 --> 00:17:02.290
  • LOT AS A CONTRIBUTOR.
  • 00:17:02.290 --> 00:17:03.160
  • YOU TACKLE ALL THOSE HARD
  • 00:17:03.160 --> 00:17:04.130
  • SUBJECTS...UH, GEOMETRY,
  • 00:17:04.130 --> 00:17:05.190
  • APPARENTLY NOT ONE OF THEM.
  • 00:17:05.190 --> 00:17:06.120
  • - ROBERT: THAT'S-- YEAH.
  • 00:17:06.120 --> 00:17:07.040
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:17:07.040 --> 00:17:07.210
  • - MATT: BUT "THE GIFT" IS FOR
  • 00:17:07.210 --> 00:17:10.190
  • YOU: GRANDMA, GRANDPA, GET IT,
  • 00:17:10.190 --> 00:17:12.220
  • PARENTS.
  • 00:17:12.220 --> 00:17:13.240
  • THIS IS WRITTEN BY ROBERT
  • 00:17:13.240 --> 00:17:15.280
  • JEFFRESS AS A RESOURCE FOR YOU.
  • 00:17:15.280 --> 00:17:18.020
  • 800 NUMBER AVAILABLE.
  • 00:17:18.020 --> 00:17:20.030
  • THE OPERATORS ON THE SPECIAL
  • 00:17:20.030 --> 00:17:22.290
  • 800 NUMBER ARE READY TO TALK TO
  • 00:17:22.290 --> 00:17:23.210
  • YOU ABOUT THIS BOOK.
  • 00:17:23.210 --> 00:17:24.160
  • IT'S ALL SET, AND WE HAVE THAT
  • 00:17:24.160 --> 00:17:26.230
  • ALL ORGANIZED.
  • 00:17:26.230 --> 00:17:28.110
  • OKAY, YOUR TV PROGRAM, WHAT DO
  • 00:17:28.110 --> 00:17:30.120
  • YOU THINK YOU PREACH ABOUT, IF
  • 00:17:31.080 --> 00:17:34.080
  • SOMEBODY ASKED YOU THE QUESTION?
  • 00:17:34.240 --> 00:17:37.240
  • SO IF WE'RE GONNA WATCH YOUR
  • 00:17:37.240 --> 00:17:39.000
  • BROADCAST ON TBN-- AND IT AIRS
  • 00:17:39.000 --> 00:17:41.110
  • ON TBN SATURDAYS AT 7 P.M., AND
  • 00:17:41.110 --> 00:17:42.190
  • SUNDAYS, 11 A.M.
  • 00:17:42.240 --> 00:17:45.240
  • WHAT DO YOU SAY YOU PREACH
  • 00:17:45.240 --> 00:17:46.260
  • ABOUT?
  • 00:17:46.260 --> 00:17:49.120
  • WHAT IS YOUR MAIN THING?
  • 00:17:49.120 --> 00:17:51.050
  • WHY DOES SOMEBODY WATCH YOUR TV
  • 00:17:51.050 --> 00:17:51.270
  • PROGRAM?
  • 00:17:51.270 --> 00:17:53.030
  • - ROBERT: LOOK, OUR MISSION
  • 00:17:53.100 --> 00:17:56.100
  • STATEMENT IS "PIERCING THE
  • 00:17:56.100 --> 00:17:57.130
  • DARKNESS WITH THE LIGHT OF GOD'S
  • 00:17:57.130 --> 00:17:58.250
  • WORD."
  • 00:17:58.250 --> 00:18:01.140
  • AND WE BELIEVE AS THIS
  • 00:18:01.140 --> 00:18:02.230
  • WORLD GETS DARKER AND DARKER
  • 00:18:02.230 --> 00:18:03.150
  • GLOBALLY, BUT EVEN INDIVIDUAL
  • 00:18:04.040 --> 00:18:07.040
  • LIVES ARE BEING ENCOMPASSED WITH
  • 00:18:07.040 --> 00:18:09.220
  • DOUBT AND DARKNESS, WE BELIEVE
  • 00:18:09.220 --> 00:18:11.150
  • THE WORD OF GOD IS WHAT PIERCES
  • 00:18:11.150 --> 00:18:13.020
  • SO WHEN PEOPLE TUNE IN TO
  • 00:18:15.220 --> 00:18:16.270
  • "PATHWAY TO VICTORY," THEY'RE
  • 00:18:16.270 --> 00:18:17.180
  • GOING TO HEAR CLEAR, BOLD,
  • 00:18:17.180 --> 00:18:19.180
  • PRACTICAL TEACHING FROM THE
  • 00:18:19.180 --> 00:18:21.050
  • WORD OF GOD.
  • 00:18:21.050 --> 00:18:22.150
  • EVERYTHING WE DO IS CENTERED ON
  • 00:18:22.150 --> 00:18:24.130
  • THE WORD OF GOD, WHICH IS TRUE
  • 00:18:24.130 --> 00:18:25.280
  • ABOUT FIRST BAPTIST DALLAS.
  • 00:18:25.280 --> 00:18:27.210
  • WE'VE BEEN AROUND FOR 150 YEARS.
  • 00:18:27.210 --> 00:18:28.130
  • OUR CHURCH IS NOT FOUNDED ON
  • 00:18:28.130 --> 00:18:30.190
  • DENOMINATION OR TRADITION, BUT
  • 00:18:30.190 --> 00:18:33.000
  • ON THE UNCHANGING TRUTH OF GOD'S
  • 00:18:33.000 --> 00:18:34.290
  • WORD.
  • 00:18:34.290 --> 00:18:36.100
  • NOW, WE PRESENT GOD'S WORD IN A
  • 00:18:36.100 --> 00:18:37.210
  • VARIETY OF WAYS ON "PATHWAY TO
  • 00:18:37.210 --> 00:18:39.020
  • VICTORY."
  • 00:18:39.020 --> 00:18:39.200
  • I THINK RIGHT NOW, AS THIS
  • 00:18:39.200 --> 00:18:41.060
  • PROGRAM IS BEING AIRED,
  • 00:18:41.060 --> 00:18:42.090
  • WE'RE IN THE BOOK OF ROMANS IN A
  • 00:18:42.090 --> 00:18:43.240
  • SERIES CALLED "GRACE-POWERED
  • 00:18:43.240 --> 00:18:45.070
  • LIVING."
  • 00:18:45.070 --> 00:18:47.050
  • SOMETIMES WE DO TOPICAL
  • 00:18:47.050 --> 00:18:48.030
  • STUDIES FROM THE WORD OF GOD.
  • 00:18:48.030 --> 00:18:49.140
  • THIS COMING FALL, I HAVE A
  • 00:18:49.140 --> 00:18:51.150
  • BRAND-NEW HARDCOVER BOOK COMING
  • 00:18:51.150 --> 00:18:52.190
  • OUT, CALLED "A PLACE CALLED
  • 00:18:52.190 --> 00:18:54.010
  • HEAVEN: 10 SURPRISING TRUTHS
  • 00:18:54.010 --> 00:18:56.130
  • ABOUT YOUR ETERNAL HOME."
  • 00:18:56.130 --> 00:18:58.270
  • AND WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT THE
  • 00:18:58.270 --> 00:19:00.070
  • SCRIPTURE SAYS TO ANSWER THE TEN
  • 00:19:00.070 --> 00:19:01.260
  • MOST FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS
  • 00:19:01.260 --> 00:19:03.000
  • ABOUT HEAVEN, BUT IT'S ALL
  • 00:19:03.000 --> 00:19:04.100
  • CENTERED, NOT ON WHAT ROBERT
  • 00:19:04.100 --> 00:19:05.120
  • JEFFRESS THINKS, BUT WHAT DOES
  • 00:19:05.120 --> 00:19:07.090
  • THE WORD OF GOD SAY.
  • 00:19:07.090 --> 00:19:09.140
  • AND, YOU KNOW, SO MANY CHURCHES,
  • 00:19:09.140 --> 00:19:10.160
  • AS YOU KNOW, MATT AND LAURIE,
  • 00:19:10.160 --> 00:19:11.270
  • ARE GETTING AWAY FROM THE
  • 00:19:11.270 --> 00:19:12.240
  • TEACHING OF GOD'S WORD.
  • 00:19:12.240 --> 00:19:13.280
  • THEY DON'T FEEL LIKE IT WORKS
  • 00:19:13.280 --> 00:19:15.110
  • ANYMORE, WHATEVER THAT MEANS,
  • 00:19:15.110 --> 00:19:16.160
  • THAT THEY HAVE TO BE, QUOTE,
  • 00:19:16.160 --> 00:19:18.000
  • RELEVANT.
  • 00:19:18.000 --> 00:19:19.100
  • NOTHING IS MORE RELEVANT THAN
  • 00:19:19.100 --> 00:19:20.250
  • THE WORD OF GOD, AND THAT'S WHAT
  • 00:19:20.250 --> 00:19:21.270
  • THEY'RE GONNA FIND ON "PATHWAY
  • 00:19:21.270 --> 00:19:22.200
  • TO VICTORY."
  • 00:19:22.200 --> 00:19:24.050
  • - MATT: BEAUTIFUL.
  • 00:19:24.050 --> 00:19:24.240
  • SO IF YOU'RE IN ROMANS RIGHT
  • 00:19:24.290 --> 00:19:27.290
  • NOW, WHAT'S THE-- IF YOU HAD
  • 00:19:27.290 --> 00:19:30.090
  • TO-- AND I LOVE DOIN' THIS
  • 00:19:30.090 --> 00:19:32.040
  • 'CAUSE YOU'RE GOOD AT IT.
  • 00:19:32.040 --> 00:19:33.070
  • SO IN A MINUTE, WHAT'S THE BOOK
  • 00:19:33.070 --> 00:19:34.180
  • OF ROMANS REALLY APPLYING TO US,
  • 00:19:34.180 --> 00:19:36.190
  • AND WHAT IS THE BIG TAKEAWAY OF
  • 00:19:36.190 --> 00:19:37.200
  • ROMANS?
  • 00:19:37.200 --> 00:19:39.140
  • - ROBERT: WELL, THE THEME IS
  • 00:19:39.140 --> 00:19:40.050
  • ROMANS 1:16-17, "FOR I'M NOT
  • 00:19:40.050 --> 00:19:42.040
  • ASHAMED OF THE GOSPEL OF CHRIST,
  • 00:19:42.040 --> 00:19:43.210
  • FOR IT'S THE POWER OF SALVATION
  • 00:19:43.210 --> 00:19:44.210
  • TO EVERYONE WHO BELIEVES."
  • 00:19:44.220 --> 00:19:47.220
  • THE BOOK IS ABOUT GRACE,
  • 00:19:47.220 --> 00:19:48.260
  • GOD'S GRACE,
  • 00:19:48.260 --> 00:19:50.160
  • AND WE TALKED ABOUT THE NEED
  • 00:19:50.160 --> 00:19:53.050
  • FOR GRACE IN ROMANS 1 TO 3,
  • 00:19:53.050 --> 00:19:55.190
  • WE'VE ALL SINNED AND COME SHORT
  • 00:19:55.190 --> 00:19:56.280
  • OF GLORY OF GOD.
  • 00:19:56.280 --> 00:19:57.260
  • WE'VE TALKED ABOUT GOD'S
  • 00:19:57.260 --> 00:19:59.080
  • PROVISION FOR GRACE IN ROMANS 4
  • 00:19:59.080 --> 00:20:01.150
  • AND 5, THAT CHRIST CAME AND DIED
  • 00:20:01.150 --> 00:20:03.000
  • FOR US.
  • 00:20:03.000 --> 00:20:05.030
  • WE TALK ABOUT THE POWER OF GRACE
  • 00:20:05.030 --> 00:20:07.000
  • IN ROMANS 6 THROUGH 11, AND
  • 00:20:07.000 --> 00:20:09.000
  • THAT'S WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW IN
  • 00:20:09.000 --> 00:20:10.090
  • OUR STUDY OF ROMANS.
  • 00:20:10.090 --> 00:20:11.260
  • YOU KNOW, THE BIGGEST
  • 00:20:11.260 --> 00:20:13.230
  • MISCONCEPTION A LOT OF BAPTISTS
  • 00:20:13.230 --> 00:20:16.030
  • HAVE ABOUT GRACE IS, "WELL, IT'S
  • 00:20:16.030 --> 00:20:17.280
  • THIS ONE-TIME DECISION THAT GETS
  • 00:20:17.280 --> 00:20:19.230
  • YOU INTO HEAVEN, BUT IT HAS NO
  • 00:20:19.230 --> 00:20:20.220
  • PRACTICAL APPLICATION."
  • 00:20:20.220 --> 00:20:22.220
  • WELL, THE FACT IS YOU DON'T
  • 00:20:22.220 --> 00:20:24.080
  • HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL YOU GET TO
  • 00:20:24.080 --> 00:20:25.030
  • HEAVEN TO EXPERIENCE
  • 00:20:25.030 --> 00:20:26.060
  • THE BENEFITS OF BECOMING A
  • 00:20:26.060 --> 00:20:26.270
  • CHRISTIAN.
  • 00:20:26.270 --> 00:20:28.010
  • THE HEART OF ROMANS 6 TO 8, IS
  • 00:20:28.010 --> 00:20:29.230
  • YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE A SLAVE TO
  • 00:20:29.230 --> 00:20:30.250
  • SIN.
  • 00:20:30.250 --> 00:20:33.010
  • I HEAR THESE PEOPLE, "OH, I'M
  • 00:20:33.010 --> 00:20:34.290
  • JUST A PRISONER OF SIN, AND I
  • 00:20:34.290 --> 00:20:36.150
  • WON'T HAVE ANY VICTORY UNTIL I
  • 00:20:36.150 --> 00:20:37.180
  • SEE JESUS ONE DAY!"
  • 00:20:37.180 --> 00:20:39.130
  • I MEAN, THAT'S BALONEY!
  • 00:20:39.130 --> 00:20:40.290
  • YOU DON'T HAVE TO WAIT TILL YOU
  • 00:20:40.290 --> 00:20:41.290
  • SEE JESUS.
  • 00:20:41.290 --> 00:20:43.140
  • YOU CAN HAVE VICTORY RIGHT NOW.
  • 00:20:43.140 --> 00:20:45.140
  • AND THAT'S WHY OUR CHARISMATIC
  • 00:20:45.140 --> 00:20:46.290
  • FRIENDS HAVE IT RIGHT, OKAY?
  • 00:20:46.290 --> 00:20:48.280
  • THAT'S WHERE THEY HAVE IT RIGHT.
  • 00:20:48.280 --> 00:20:50.280
  • GOD WANTS YOU TO EXPERIENCE
  • 00:20:50.280 --> 00:20:51.190
  • VICTORY RIGHT NOW.
  • 00:20:51.190 --> 00:20:53.140
  • THE SAME POWER THAT RAISED JESUS
  • 00:20:53.140 --> 00:20:55.000
  • FROM THE DEAD IS IN YOUR HEART
  • 00:20:55.000 --> 00:20:57.200
  • AND MY HEART RIGHT NOW, GIVING
  • 00:20:57.200 --> 00:20:58.270
  • US THE POWER TO SAY, "NO," TO
  • 00:20:58.270 --> 00:21:00.290
  • SIN, TO HAVE ANSWERS TO OUR
  • 00:21:00.290 --> 00:21:02.280
  • PRAYERS, TO EXPERIENCE MIRACLES
  • 00:21:02.280 --> 00:21:04.120
  • IN OUR LIFE, AND THAT'S WHAT
  • 00:21:04.120 --> 00:21:06.090
  • GRACE IS ABOUT.
  • 00:21:06.090 --> 00:21:08.210
  • - MATT: SO YOUR BROADCAST AIRS
  • 00:21:08.210 --> 00:21:09.130
  • ON TBN 7 P.M.
  • 00:21:09.130 --> 00:21:11.070
  • I'M JUST GOING TO GIVE YOU A
  • 00:21:15.050 --> 00:21:15.290
  • RANDOM QUESTION THAT I THOUGHT
  • 00:21:15.290 --> 00:21:16.210
  • OF: IS THE BOOK OF REVELATION
  • 00:21:16.210 --> 00:21:18.010
  • GOING TO HAPPEN, OR DID IT
  • 00:21:18.010 --> 00:21:19.180
  • HAPPEN AT 70 A.D.?
  • 00:21:19.180 --> 00:21:21.290
  • - ROBERT: WELL, YOU'RE TALKIN'
  • 00:21:21.290 --> 00:21:23.150
  • ABOUT WHAT WE CALL THE PRETERIST
  • 00:21:23.150 --> 00:21:25.150
  • VIEW OF REVELATION, AND TO SAY
  • 00:21:25.270 --> 00:21:28.270
  • THAT IT'S ALREADY HAPPENED, I'M
  • 00:21:28.270 --> 00:21:29.220
  • NOT SURE.
  • 00:21:29.220 --> 00:21:32.060
  • WHEN DID THAT ONE WORLD DICTATOR
  • 00:21:32.060 --> 00:21:32.280
  • APPEAR THAT THE BIBLE TALKS
  • 00:21:32.280 --> 00:21:33.180
  • ABOUT?
  • 00:21:33.180 --> 00:21:34.030
  • I HADN'T SEEN THAT.
  • 00:21:34.030 --> 00:21:35.140
  • I HAVEN'T SEEN THE CLOUDS PART
  • 00:21:35.140 --> 00:21:36.240
  • AND JESUS COME BACK AGAIN YET.
  • 00:21:36.240 --> 00:21:37.190
  • NO, IT IS FUTURE TENSE.
  • 00:21:38.010 --> 00:21:41.010
  • - MATT: NO CHANCE THAT THAT
  • 00:21:44.130 --> 00:21:45.040
  • HAPPENED AT 70 A.D.? NO CHANCE?
  • 00:21:45.040 --> 00:21:46.200
  • - ROBERT: NO CHANCE.
  • 00:21:46.200 --> 00:21:48.180
  • NO CHANCE.
  • 00:21:48.180 --> 00:21:49.250
  • NOW, THERE ARE TYPES THAT
  • 00:21:49.250 --> 00:21:51.100
  • OCCURRED DURING THOSE TIMES.
  • 00:21:51.100 --> 00:21:53.010
  • YOU KNOW, IN THE BIBLE, WE HAVE
  • 00:21:53.010 --> 00:21:53.230
  • WHAT WE CALL NEAR FULFILLMENT OF
  • 00:21:53.230 --> 00:21:54.180
  • PROPHECY AND THE ULTIMATE
  • 00:21:54.180 --> 00:21:57.180
  • FULFILLMENT OF PROPHECY.
  • 00:21:57.180 --> 00:21:58.290
  • SOME PROPHECIES IN SCRIPTURE HAD
  • 00:21:58.290 --> 00:22:00.200
  • A DOUBLE FULFILLMENT.
  • 00:22:00.200 --> 00:22:02.040
  • YOU KNOW, THE ISAIAH PASSAGE
  • 00:22:02.040 --> 00:22:04.150
  • ABOUT "A VIRGIN SHALL CONCEIVE,"
  • 00:22:04.230 --> 00:22:07.230
  • THAT HAD A NEAR FULFILLMENT IN
  • 00:22:07.230 --> 00:22:09.290
  • ISAIAH'S DAY.
  • 00:22:09.290 --> 00:22:11.180
  • IT WAS TALKIN' ABOUT HIS WIFE,
  • 00:22:11.180 --> 00:22:12.090
  • BUT THERE WAS AN ULTIMATE
  • 00:22:12.090 --> 00:22:13.210
  • FULFILLMENT IN CHRIST.
  • 00:22:13.210 --> 00:22:14.260
  • SAME THING IN THE BOOK OF
  • 00:22:14.260 --> 00:22:15.170
  • REVELATION, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE
  • 00:22:15.170 --> 00:22:16.190
  • SOME THINGS THAT HAPPENED THEN
  • 00:22:16.190 --> 00:22:18.120
  • THAT WERE A TYPE OF THE ONE
  • 00:22:18.120 --> 00:22:21.060
  • WORLD DICTATOR, THE ANTICHRIST,
  • 00:22:21.060 --> 00:22:22.220
  • BUT THE ULTIMATE FULFILLMENT HAS
  • 00:22:22.220 --> 00:22:24.280
  • NOT COME YET.
  • 00:22:24.280 --> 00:22:26.020
  • - MATT: SO IN PRE-, MID-, OR
  • 00:22:26.060 --> 00:22:29.060
  • POST-TRIB?
  • 00:22:29.060 --> 00:22:30.200
  • - ROBERT: OH, BY THE WAY, IN
  • 00:22:30.200 --> 00:22:31.200
  • APRIL, WE'LL BE GOING THROUGH
  • 00:22:31.200 --> 00:22:32.270
  • ALL OF THIS ON "PATHWAY TO
  • 00:22:32.270 --> 00:22:33.190
  • VICTORY" IN MY SERIES, "PERFECT
  • 00:22:33.190 --> 00:22:35.290
  • ENDING: WHY YOUR ETERNAL FUTURE
  • 00:22:35.290 --> 00:22:37.040
  • MATTERS TODAY."
  • 00:22:37.040 --> 00:22:38.160
  • SO PEOPLE CAN TUNE IN,
  • 00:22:38.160 --> 00:22:40.090
  • ON "PATHWAY TO VICTORY" AND HAVE
  • 00:22:42.280 --> 00:22:43.250
  • ALL THOSE ANSWERS.
  • 00:22:43.250 --> 00:22:45.020
  • BUT YOU'RE TALKIN' ABOUT THE
  • 00:22:45.020 --> 00:22:45.220
  • RAPTURE OF THE CHURCH.
  • 00:22:45.220 --> 00:22:46.250
  • I BELIEVE IN THE RAPTURE.
  • 00:22:46.250 --> 00:22:47.250
  • I BELIEVE IT IS A
  • 00:22:47.250 --> 00:22:49.160
  • PRE-TRIBULATION RAPTURE, AND
  • 00:22:49.160 --> 00:22:50.240
  • HERE'S THE MAIN REASON, MATT, I
  • 00:22:50.240 --> 00:22:53.140
  • BELIEVE THAT.
  • 00:22:53.140 --> 00:22:55.170
  • PEOPLE SAY, "WELL, YOU'RE JUST
  • 00:22:55.170 --> 00:22:56.090
  • HOPING TO ESCAPE ANY PROBLEMS,"
  • 00:22:56.090 --> 00:22:57.010
  • AND CHRISTIANS HAVE ALWAYS
  • 00:22:57.010 --> 00:22:57.210
  • I AGREE, CHRISTIANS HAVE ALWAYS
  • 00:23:00.230 --> 00:23:01.150
  • SUFFERED PERSECUTION, BUT THE
  • 00:23:01.150 --> 00:23:02.060
  • TRIBULATION IS NOT JUST A TIME
  • 00:23:02.060 --> 00:23:03.120
  • OF DIFFICULTY.
  • 00:23:03.120 --> 00:23:05.140
  • THE TRIBULATION IS GOD'S POURING
  • 00:23:05.140 --> 00:23:07.260
  • OUT HIS WRATH ON THE WORLD, AND
  • 00:23:07.260 --> 00:23:09.190
  • IF I'M A CHRISTIAN AND HAVE TO
  • 00:23:09.190 --> 00:23:11.260
  • DREAD GOING THROUGH GOD'S WRATH
  • 00:23:11.260 --> 00:23:14.130
  • THAT WILL BE POURED OUT UPON THE
  • 00:23:14.130 --> 00:23:16.090
  • EARTH, THEN THE DEATH OF CHRIST
  • 00:23:16.090 --> 00:23:17.080
  • IS WORTHLESS.
  • 00:23:17.080 --> 00:23:18.130
  • THE REASON CHRIST DIED FOR ME
  • 00:23:18.130 --> 00:23:20.200
  • WAS TO SUFFER THE WRATH OF GOD
  • 00:23:20.200 --> 00:23:23.080
  • ON MY BEHALF, AND THAT'S WHY
  • 00:23:23.080 --> 00:23:24.230
  • ROMANS 8:1 SAYS, "THERE IS,
  • 00:23:24.230 --> 00:23:26.070
  • THEREFORE, NOW NO CONDEMNATION
  • 00:23:26.070 --> 00:23:27.150
  • AWAITING THOSE WHO BELONG TO
  • 00:23:27.150 --> 00:23:30.020
  • CHRIST JESUS."
  • 00:23:30.020 --> 00:23:31.040
  • SO THAT'S WHY I AM CERTAIN
  • 00:23:31.040 --> 00:23:32.160
  • THE CHURCH IS NOT HERE
  • 00:23:32.160 --> 00:23:34.060
  • DURING THOSE 7 YEARS.
  • 00:23:34.060 --> 00:23:35.270
  • AND, BY THE WAY, REMEMBER, THE
  • 00:23:35.270 --> 00:23:37.010
  • CHURCH IN THE BOOK OF REVELATION
  • 00:23:37.010 --> 00:23:38.170
  • IS FOUND PROMINENTLY IN
  • 00:23:38.170 --> 00:23:39.250
  • REVELATION CHAPTERS 1 THROUGH 4.
  • 00:23:43.030 --> 00:23:46.030
  • YOU FIND IT AGAIN IN CHAPTERS
  • 00:23:46.030 --> 00:23:46.240
  • 19, TO THE END OF THE BOOK, BUT
  • 00:23:46.240 --> 00:23:48.070
  • NOWHERE FROM CHAPTERS 6 THROUGH
  • 00:23:48.070 --> 00:23:50.130
  • 19, IS THE CHURCH MENTIONED ONCE
  • 00:23:50.130 --> 00:23:52.000
  • IN THE BOOK OF REVELATION, THOSE
  • 00:23:52.000 --> 00:23:54.050
  • CHAPTERS THAT DESCRIBE THE
  • 00:23:54.050 --> 00:23:55.150
  • TRIBULATION.
  • 00:23:55.150 --> 00:23:57.010
  • WHY ISN'T THE CHURCH MENTIONED?
  • 00:23:57.010 --> 00:23:58.000
  • BECAUSE THE CHURCH ISN'T HERE.
  • 00:23:58.000 --> 00:23:58.270
  • IT'S IN HEAVEN.
  • 00:23:58.270 --> 00:24:00.050
  • - MATT: SO--
  • 00:24:00.050 --> 00:24:01.040
  • - LAURIE: HE'S ABOUT PREACHIN'
  • 00:24:01.080 --> 00:24:04.080
  • HAPPY-- [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:24:04.080 --> 00:24:05.160
  • - MATT: YEAH, I KNOW!
  • 00:24:05.160 --> 00:24:06.250
  • SO DOES ANY PROPHECY HAVE TO BE
  • 00:24:06.250 --> 00:24:07.170
  • FULFILLED, OR CAN THE LORD COME
  • 00:24:07.170 --> 00:24:08.140
  • BACK THIS AFTERNOON?
  • 00:24:08.140 --> 00:24:09.240
  • - ROBERT: WELL, YOU HAVE TO
  • 00:24:09.240 --> 00:24:10.160
  • DEFINE WHAT YOU MEAN BY THE LORD
  • 00:24:10.160 --> 00:24:11.130
  • COMING BACK.
  • 00:24:11.130 --> 00:24:13.270
  • - MATT: CAN THE RAPTURE HAPPEN
  • 00:24:13.270 --> 00:24:14.190
  • THIS AFTERNOON?
  • 00:24:14.190 --> 00:24:15.280
  • - ROBERT: THE RAPTURE CAN
  • 00:24:15.280 --> 00:24:16.180
  • HAPPEN BEFORE WE FINISH THIS
  • 00:24:16.180 --> 00:24:17.080
  • PROGRAM.
  • 00:24:17.080 --> 00:24:17.260
  • THERE IS NO PROPHECY THAT HAS TO
  • 00:24:17.260 --> 00:24:19.020
  • BE FULFILLED BEFORE THE RAPTURE.
  • 00:24:19.020 --> 00:24:20.020
  • THEN COMES THE TRIBULATION, AND
  • 00:24:20.020 --> 00:24:20.250
  • THEN THE SECOND COMING.
  • 00:24:20.250 --> 00:24:23.020
  • NOW, THERE ARE SEVERAL THINGS
  • 00:24:23.020 --> 00:24:24.110
  • THAT HAVE TO HAPPEN BEFORE THE
  • 00:24:24.110 --> 00:24:25.270
  • SECOND COMING OCCURS, INCLUDING
  • 00:24:25.270 --> 00:24:26.280
  • THE REBUILDING OF THE TEMPLE,
  • 00:24:26.280 --> 00:24:28.160
  • BUT AS WE SEE EVEN THOSE THINGS
  • 00:24:28.160 --> 00:24:31.120
  • BEGINNING TO COME TOGETHER IN
  • 00:24:31.120 --> 00:24:33.100
  • ISRAEL, ALL IT MEANS IS THE
  • 00:24:34.280 --> 00:24:37.280
  • RAPTURE, WHICH HAPPENS 7 YEARS
  • 00:24:37.280 --> 00:24:39.030
  • BEFORE THAT, MUST BE EVEN
  • 00:24:39.030 --> 00:24:39.290
  • CLOSER.
  • 00:24:39.290 --> 00:24:41.050
  • - MATT: SO ARE YOU WILLING TO
  • 00:24:41.050 --> 00:24:41.260
  • SET A DATE FOR THE LORD TO COME?
  • 00:24:41.260 --> 00:24:44.060
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:24:44.060 --> 00:24:44.240
  • - LAURIE: I DON'T THINK WE'RE
  • 00:24:44.240 --> 00:24:45.150
  • GONNA GET HIM TO DO THAT!
  • 00:24:45.150 --> 00:24:46.040
  • - MATT: 'CAUSE HE TOLD ME ONE
  • 00:24:46.040 --> 00:24:47.020
  • BACK IN THE GREENROOM BUT SAID
  • 00:24:47.020 --> 00:24:47.230
  • HE WOULDN'T SAY IT ON THE AIR,
  • 00:24:47.230 --> 00:24:48.280
  • YOU KNOW.
  • 00:24:48.280 --> 00:24:49.250
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:24:49.250 --> 00:24:50.110
  • KIDDING.
  • 00:24:50.110 --> 00:24:52.050
  • - ROBERT: FOR THE RIGHT LOVE
  • 00:24:52.050 --> 00:24:52.260
  • OFFERING, WE COULD SEND TO YOU
  • 00:24:52.260 --> 00:24:53.180
  • THE DATE IN A SPECIAL
  • 00:24:53.180 --> 00:24:54.050
  • ENVELOPE.
  • 00:24:54.050 --> 00:24:54.160
  • - MATT: OH, MAN!
  • 00:24:54.160 --> 00:24:55.220
  • - ROBERT: NO, NO, WE'RE NOT
  • 00:24:55.220 --> 00:24:56.130
  • GONNA DO THAT!
  • 00:24:56.130 --> 00:24:56.260
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:24:56.260 --> 00:24:57.070
  • - MATT: YOU TRUMPED MY JOKE!
  • 00:24:57.070 --> 00:24:58.240
  • THAT'S AMAZING!
  • 00:24:58.240 --> 00:25:00.160
  • - ROBERT: PLEASE DON'T USE THAT
  • 00:25:00.160 --> 00:25:01.080
  • NAME IN VAIN!
  • 00:25:01.080 --> 00:25:01.210
  • BUT GO AHEAD!
  • 00:25:01.210 --> 00:25:02.070
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:25:02.070 --> 00:25:03.060
  • - MATT: OH, SORRY!
  • 00:25:03.060 --> 00:25:03.220
  • THAT'S RIGHT!
  • 00:25:03.220 --> 00:25:04.100
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:25:04.100 --> 00:25:04.210
  • GIFT!
  • 00:25:04.210 --> 00:25:05.170
  • AND IN THE LAST MINUTE OR TWO,
  • 00:25:08.060 --> 00:25:08.280
  • FINAL THOUGHT ON THIS BOOK, WHY
  • 00:25:08.280 --> 00:25:09.200
  • YOU WROTE IT.
  • 00:25:09.200 --> 00:25:11.110
  • WE GOT 2 MINUTES.
  • 00:25:11.110 --> 00:25:13.030
  • - ROBERT: YEAH, WELL, I WOULD
  • 00:25:13.030 --> 00:25:15.140
  • JUST SAY THAT, AS A PARENT, I
  • 00:25:15.140 --> 00:25:17.240
  • CANNOT EXPRESS THE JOY THAT I
  • 00:25:17.240 --> 00:25:20.240
  • FELT OF LEADING MY CHILDREN TO
  • 00:25:20.240 --> 00:25:21.160
  • FAITH IN CHRIST.
  • 00:25:21.160 --> 00:25:22.290
  • AND I WOULD JUST SAY PARENT,
  • 00:25:22.290 --> 00:25:24.240
  • GRANDPARENT WATCHING TODAY, THAT
  • 00:25:24.240 --> 00:25:26.090
  • CHILD YOU LOOK AT ACROSS THE
  • 00:25:27.060 --> 00:25:30.060
  • TABLE EVERY MORNING AT
  • 00:25:30.190 --> 00:25:33.190
  • BREAKFAST, THAT CHILD IS EITHER
  • 00:25:33.190 --> 00:25:34.110
  • GONNA BE WITH YOU IN HEAVEN
  • 00:25:34.110 --> 00:25:35.060
  • FOREVER, OR THAT CHILD IS GONNA
  • 00:25:35.060 --> 00:25:36.150
  • BE IN HELL FOREVER.
  • 00:25:36.150 --> 00:25:39.060
  • AND IF WE REALLY BELIEVE WHAT WE
  • 00:25:39.060 --> 00:25:41.250
  • SAY WE BELIEVE, THAT ONLY THOSE
  • 00:25:41.250 --> 00:25:43.150
  • WHO TRUST IN CHRIST AS SAVIOR
  • 00:25:43.150 --> 00:25:45.010
  • ARE GONNA BE IN HEAVEN, THEN THE
  • 00:25:45.010 --> 00:25:46.180
  • MOST IMPORTANT THING YOU CAN DO
  • 00:25:46.180 --> 00:25:48.220
  • AS A PARENT OR GRANDPARENT IS TO
  • 00:25:48.220 --> 00:25:50.140
  • MAKE SURE YOUR CHILD COMES TO
  • 00:25:50.140 --> 00:25:52.050
  • FAITH IN CHRIST.
  • 00:25:52.050 --> 00:25:54.120
  • AND THAT'S WHY I WOULD ENCOURAGE
  • 00:25:54.120 --> 00:25:55.110
  • YOU TO GET A COPY OF "THE GIFT."
  • 00:25:55.110 --> 00:25:57.040
  • I BELIEVE YOU WOULDN'T BE
  • 00:25:57.040 --> 00:25:58.090
  • WATCHING THIS PROGRAM TODAY IF
  • 00:25:58.090 --> 00:25:59.110
  • YOU DIDN'T LOVE THE LORD JESUS
  • 00:25:59.110 --> 00:26:01.150
  • AND WANT YOUR CHILDREN AND
  • 00:26:01.150 --> 00:26:03.020
  • GRANDCHILDREN TO COME TO KNOW
  • 00:26:03.020 --> 00:26:04.170
  • CHRIST, BUT MAYBE YOU DON'T KNOW
  • 00:26:04.170 --> 00:26:05.100
  • HOW TO DO IT.
  • 00:26:05.100 --> 00:26:06.080
  • THIS BOOK, "THE GIFT," IS A
  • 00:26:06.080 --> 00:26:07.250
  • WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU TO
  • 00:26:07.250 --> 00:26:09.180
  • SHARE WITH YOUR CHILD, YOUR
  • 00:26:09.180 --> 00:26:11.100
  • GRANDCHILD YOU LOVE SO MUCH, THE
  • 00:26:11.100 --> 00:26:13.180
  • GREATEST GIFT OF ALL, THE GIFT
  • 00:26:13.180 --> 00:26:15.030
  • OF ETERNAL LIFE THROUGH
  • 00:26:15.030 --> 00:26:16.120
  • JESUS CHRIST.
  • 00:26:16.120 --> 00:26:17.260
  • - MATT: YOU KNOW WHAT I
  • 00:26:17.260 --> 00:26:18.150
  • THOUGHT?
  • 00:26:18.150 --> 00:26:19.170
  • WHY DON'T YOU GET-- YOU KNOW,
  • 00:26:19.170 --> 00:26:21.130
  • WHEN I WAS GROWING UP, MY MOM
  • 00:26:21.130 --> 00:26:22.060
  • AND MY DAD, MY MOM SPECIFICALLY,
  • 00:26:22.060 --> 00:26:23.080
  • DID VACATION BIBLE SCHOOL.
  • 00:26:24.040 --> 00:26:27.040
  • YOU KNOW, WE HAD VBS IN OUR
  • 00:26:27.040 --> 00:26:28.220
  • HOME, AND ALL THE NEIGHBOR KIDS.
  • 00:26:28.220 --> 00:26:31.000
  • I JUST THOUGHT, WHY NOT GET
  • 00:26:31.000 --> 00:26:32.270
  • THESE FOR ALL THE NEIGHBOR KIDS
  • 00:26:32.270 --> 00:26:33.250
  • AND PASS 'EM OUT.
  • 00:26:33.250 --> 00:26:36.210
  • THEY'RE AVAILABLE BY GOING TO
  • 00:26:36.210 --> 00:26:37.260
  • THAT NUMBER, 800-714-8999.
  • 00:26:38.260 --> 00:26:41.260
  • IT'S A SPECIAL NUMBER FOR THIS
  • 00:26:41.260 --> 00:26:42.170
  • BOOK.
  • 00:26:42.170 --> 00:26:43.010
  • - LAURIE: THANK YOU FOR DOIN'
  • 00:26:43.010 --> 00:26:43.260
  • THIS!
  • 00:26:43.260 --> 00:26:45.020
  • I KNOW THAT THIS IS GONNA BE
  • 00:26:45.020 --> 00:26:45.220
  • SUCH A HELP TO SO MANY, JUST, IN
  • 00:26:45.220 --> 00:26:47.100
  • YOUR HOUSES AND YOUR HOUSEHOLD.
  • 00:26:47.100 --> 00:26:49.260
  • IF YOU HAVE, LIKE YOU SAID,
  • 00:26:49.260 --> 00:26:52.060
  • LITTLE KIDS COMIN' OVER AT YOUR
  • 00:26:52.060 --> 00:26:53.000
  • HOUSE, GIVE 'EM SOMETHIN' TO
  • 00:26:53.000 --> 00:26:54.280
  • READ.
  • 00:26:54.280 --> 00:26:55.140
  • AND I BELIEVE THIS WILL HELP A
  • 00:26:55.140 --> 00:26:56.160
  • LOT OF EVEN ADULTS RECEIVE
  • 00:26:56.160 --> 00:26:58.110
  • CHRIST AS THEY LEAD THEIR
  • 00:26:58.110 --> 00:26:59.110
  • CHILDREN.
  • 00:26:59.110 --> 00:27:02.060
  • - ROBERT: THANKS FOR GETTIN' TO
  • 00:27:02.060 --> 00:27:02.290
  • PARTNER WITH YOU ON TBN TOO.
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  • WE LOVE WHAT'S HAPPENING ON THE
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  • NETWORK.
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  • IT'S REALLY EXCITING.
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  • - MATT: PASTOR JEFFRESS, THANK
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  • YOU FOR BEIN' HERE.
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  • GET "THE GIFT."
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  • IT IS OUR OFFER
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  • TO YOU RIGHT NOW.
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  • WE'LL SEE YOU NEXT TIME.
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  • - LAURIE: LOVE YOU!
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  • - MATT: THANK YOU, PASTOR!
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  • - ROBERT: THANK YOU.
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