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Jay Sekulow - Big Win For Free Speech with Meta Announcement

January 22, 2025 | 26:17

In a surprising turn of events, social media giant Meta (formerly Facebook) announces a major shift in its policies. Mark Zuckerberg, the CEO, declares the end of fact-checking and a renewed focus on free speech and reducing mistakes. The company appoints conservative figures, including a Republican lobbyist and Dana White, head of the UFC, to its board of directors. While skeptics remain cautious, many see these changes as a potential win for conservatives and a departure from the company's previous biased practices. As the company navigates this shift, both its intentions and actions come under scrutiny.

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Sekulow | Jay Sekulow - Big Win For Free Speech with Meta Announcement | January 22, 2025

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- welcome to "sekulow".
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And some pretty big announcements come out of meta.
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Of course meta is mark zuckerberg's platform's, facebook,
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Instagram, threads, all of the meta universe, the metaverse.
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And the statements that have come outta mark zuckerberg,
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Really over the last few months,
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And maybe you can even say in the last year,
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Have seemed to to be presenting a sort of changing tide
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That's happening within social media.
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And you have a moment where, of course, we specifically,
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Even the aclj have had a lot of issues
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With facebook over the years when in terms of fact checking
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And some of the issues that have come out.
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Now we got friends at facebook, they've taken care of us.
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And i believe of all of our fact checks,
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We have never had one that was not overturned by facebook.
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Once the, you know, the higher ups i guess got involved.
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But now what you've seen is mark zuckerberg
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Make this announcement of they are doing away
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With fact checking.
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That's right, all those little fact checks
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That you saw over the last four or five years, gone.
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They'll be now replaced with something similar.
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And those are the words of mark zuckerberg.
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We'll play in the next segment, some videos
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And some clips from mark zuckerberg
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Where he lays this out in a way
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That feels very trump, if i'm being honest.
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They use words like legacy media and having issues with that
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And telling the truth and free speech.
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And how community notes that was developed on x
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Is going to be essentially beefed up
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And brought over to the meta platform
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So on facebook and instagram.
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Take this as a huge win, everyone,
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The fact that it took some time,
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But you have someone like mark zuckerberg seemingly seeing
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What's happening on x, not being afraid now to stand up.
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And at the same time, he's made some shifts
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In the board of directors at meta,
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Which not only included a republican congress person,
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Is that right? - yes.
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- republican congress person, but also-
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- [will] a lobbyist, republican lobbyist.
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- lobbyist, sorry.
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A lobbyist who, who you may not know, but that's okay
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Because he put in also dana white,
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The head of the ufc, the creator of the ufc and really,
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And now running tko part of endeavor.
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And someone who has been a massive supporter
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Of president trump, maybe when other people weren't,
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You had dana white out there.
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And now he's going to be on the board of directors
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At one of the biggest platforms in the world.
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Of course, that's facebook, instagram,
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The metaverse in meta in general.
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And we actually have some official statements
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From our friends at meta.
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We're gonna read those coming up in the next segment.
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But i wanna know from you, how do you feel about this?
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Do you think this is a true sign of change?
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Is this just a business saying, hey,
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We gotta make sure we can stay around, stay relevant,
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And we can't be doing what we're doing
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Because they lay out specific issues, will, in this,
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That they are no longer going to be censoring.
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- that's right.
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And they even get into it,
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And we'll play some of this. - yeah.
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- about how pushing back against governments,
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Including the united states government,
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Saying they're going to work with president trump
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And the government to push back on these policies
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Where the government was pushing them
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To censor certain content.
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Now obviously there's gonna be a lot
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Of people that are skeptical.
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Is this just trying to deal the cards you're dealt,
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To play the cards, you're dealt with a new president,
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Maybe, perhaps.
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However, this cannot be lost, that this is a big win.
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You have to take these wins
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And then continue the pressure, ensure that the people
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In the new administration work with these platforms
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To ensure that free speech continues.
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It's why when the liberals lost their minds over elon musk
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Buying twitter, it ended up being one of the best things
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For free speech.
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Not just because of that twitter platform,
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But now the fact that mark zuckerberg
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Is even saying it will be like the community notes on x,
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He's pointing to the fact
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That's been a big win for free speech.
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And they realize they have to adapt
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And change if they wanna stay in business.
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We'll get into more of it.
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This is a really interesting story
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And i think we need to play will some clips
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From mark zuckerberg himself.
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And i'll also give you some headlines,
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Some sort of top lines that we got from our friends
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At meta to share,
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Which i thought was pretty interesting.
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Again, big moves.
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And i believe you can credit elon musk for a lot of this.
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You can credit the success they've had on x
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And maybe you could also credit threads, you know,
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Not exactly blowing the doors down when they became the,
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You know, the x alternative.
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And it's an interesting time,
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But i think we should play a clip.
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I mean, you could see it's not just a quick press release.
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Hey, we're doing this.
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Mark zuckerberg sort of pleads
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With the american people, pleads with the world to say,
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Hey, we messed up, we went way too far
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And we're gonna do what we can to redeem ourselves.
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Should we go ahead and play a bite?
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- yeah, let's go ahead and play bite two.
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This is from a video release
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This morning from mark zuckerberg.
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- the recent elections also feel
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Like a cultural tipping point towards,
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Once again prioritizing speech.
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So we're gonna get back to our roots
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And focus on reducing mistakes, simplifying our policies,
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And restoring free expression on our platforms.
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More specifically, here's what we're gonna do.
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First, we're gonna get rid of fact checkers
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And replace them with community notes
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Similar to x starting in the us.
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After trump first got elected in 2016,
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The legacy media wrote nonstop
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About how misinformation was a threat to democracy.
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We tried in good faith
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To address those concerns
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Without becoming the arbiters of truth.
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But the fact-checkers have just been too politically biased
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And have destroyed more trust than they've created,
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Especially in the us.
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- so let me read that to you.
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The fact checkers have become too politically biased
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And have destroyed more trust than they've created,
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Especially in the us.
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We can say without a doubt
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'cause we had this happen to us
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And we have a lawyer on staff whose main job
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Is to make sure we have a voice advocating
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For ourselves on these social media platforms.
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Because will, there were times where we would have a case
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And we were making our argument in the case in facebook
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Or you know, the facebook fact checkers,
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The independent fact checkers would come in
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And say, no, what you're spreading is lies.
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- and there there's one very specific instance
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That i remember was when it was with a bill
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That was going in the, not minnesota, i'm sorry,
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Maryland state house.
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It was going forward,
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It had that language about perinatal abortion,
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Which we were pointing out that
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That term includes the period after birth as well.
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In that hearing, the lawyers
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For the democrats conceded that
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That's actually what that means.
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There could be some unintended consequences here.
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It wasn't even the conservative pro-life faction
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That was saying this.
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It was the lawyers for the democrats.
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And we were pointing this out.
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Our lawyers were presenting in this hearing, testifying
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Before a legislative body.
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We had a post about that very issue.
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And the liberal fact checkers
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That facebook was using rated it as false.
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Not only does that make the post not get shown up,
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But it hurts your entire brand
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And category of having your posts and information seen.
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We fought it, we were able to successfully overturn it
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By showing documentation of what we testified
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With the democrat lawyers in that state house testified
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And showed them the record
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And got it overturned with no long-term damage
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To the organization's social media accounts.
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However, that is just one caveat, one small thing
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Because we had the proof, the the wherewithal to fight it
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And even some connections at facebook
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To know the right channels to go to.
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- right. - most people did not even
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Have the time to continue to push to overturn
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Or even know that they could push
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To overturn these fact checkers.
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And even there, mark zuckerberg points out
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That the fact checkers have been too politically biased.
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That goes to what we've been saying.
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It goes to our own experience.
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I know it goes to your experience out there that's watching
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That you saw things that were demoted, shadow banned
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Or disappeared or fact-check
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Because it wasn't even necessarily facebook themselves.
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But this team of fact checkers
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That they had were all left of center
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And all targeting conservative voices.
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- yeah, and we saw that over and over again.
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Let's go take a call.
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Let's go to lynn in florida, who's listening on the radio.
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Lynn, you're on the air.
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- [lynn] yes, meta has not suddenly decided
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To be a friend of maga.
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They're just doing this to,
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I guess not sow for the consequences.
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They didn't decide overnight to not be evil.
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If you believe this, you lack wisdom, you lack knowledge
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And you lack understanding.
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- well, lynn, i appreciate you calling in
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And look, i understand after many years of dealing
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With that, i'm a little more hopeful.
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I'm a little more hopeful that maybe they see the writing
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On the wall and maybe this was something
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That was not directly,
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I mean, i'm sure look, they saw the change in the feelings
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Of the american people.
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Mark zuckerberg says it in that video.
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Would this have happened if kamala harris had won?
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Maybe so, because you're trying to keep your business going.
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You're trying to, you know,
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Keep your audience, you know, happy.
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And of course we've seen so much change in social media over
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The last few years that people have left platforms.
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They've joined platforms,
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The liberal groups all were on twitter, then they all left x
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And you know, it goes back and forth and back and forth.
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And maybe you could have sort of a return to normalcy.
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You could say that even instagram was maybe one of the few
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That felt a little less politically driven.
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And i heard an interview actually
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With one of the heads of instagram who said like,
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One of the reasons that you can't link out is,
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So it did not become a news platform.
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- [will] right.
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- and i think that's maybe what we're seeing,
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Which is get back to why you wanna be on facebook,
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Why you wanna be on instagram.
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Now facebook, they're saying though,
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We are actually gonna amp up political discussion,
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If you will. - right.
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- we're gonna amp up some of those more controversial topics
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That we at one point deemed to be for inclusion
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And now realized that the american people
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Are not one sided on them.
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- well, and to lynn's point, she is,
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I would say justifiably skeptical.
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- absolutely. - as probably most people
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Watching including ourselves are you know,
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You wanna see- - there's a lot on facebook
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Right now. - wanna the proof
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Once it gets there.
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But i would also say when you're seeing like mcdonald's
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Announcing just yesterday,
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They're ending some of their dei practices.
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You've seen the university of michigan saying
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That they're rolling back some of those dei things.
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A lot of corporations are saying, you know,
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We've kind of heard.
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And i would say some of these corporations
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Are not as ideologically driven
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By politics as we give them credit for.
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I think, and i would argue
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And probably rightly so to some degree,
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That these corporations, especially the giant ones,
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Are they are guided by profit.
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And when they think that the world,
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And maybe because of what legacy media
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Is telling them the world wants,
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They're like, how are we gonna make more money?
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We're gonna go do all these dei things.
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Yes, is it a lot of money for us?
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They spend money on these programs
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That honestly don't make them a dollar.
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- yeah. - but they think that makes
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Them more palatable or more attractive for the consumer.
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- or for the advertiser. - exactly.
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- and we saw that happen at a company
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Like disney where it went so far
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Where an audience finally started revolting.
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And you had a group of people inside disney say,
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We cannot keep politicizing every piece
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Of content we put out.
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And when you see it, you can feel it.
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'cause it was, it was never done with gentle hands.
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It was always done with something that just felt
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So outta place or something that felt so forced
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That the creatives involved didn't feel like
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They even had anything to do it.
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It felt like they were just pushed to do it.
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I think that's what we've seen across the board.
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Maybe there are some changes.
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Look, again, i think you could be skeptical.
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I'm skeptical on facebook
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Because why, i don't know, let's say six
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Or seven years ago we had somewhere between 5,000
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To 10,000 people watching our show each
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And every day on facebook.
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As we're broadcasting right now,
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We got thousands on youtube, thousands on rumble.
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How many do we have right now
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As we talk about this content on facebook?
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240.
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Okay, so you can't tell me that that hasn't changed.
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We have 4 million plus people on this page
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And 240 are what's watching.
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So i wanna make a challenge to our friends at facebook
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And say, how about you lift some of those filters?
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How about you start notifying people once again
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That this show is broadcasting live?
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How about you start doing what you used to do,
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Which was spread the word
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And let us have a actual forum for discussion.
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We've been fighting this for years
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And we have successfully won over
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And over again against social media platforms
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That have tried to censor us.
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We have won every single time.
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And now we've seen facebook say we give up,
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We're changing things.
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Mark zuckerberg clearly trying
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To make some inroads with trump.
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Putting in someone like dana white, again,
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The head of the ufc who you've seen speak
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At the republican national convention,
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You've seen speak over the years.
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You've seen him welcome president trump to ufc events
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To thunderous applause.
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Maybe again, he was doing that when it was not popular
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To be doing it
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And now he's on the board of directors of meta.
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That is a big deal and a huge win for conservatives.
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I mean that this is not a non-controversial figure.
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This is maybe one of the more controversial media figures
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Just due to the business that he's in.
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Ufc power slap.
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Now involved in the wwe 'cause of tko.
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This is someone involved in violent sport
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But is a sound conservative.
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- and logan, i think to that point as well,
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That's even bigger to me than just the announcement
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Of going to the, getting rid of the fact checkers
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And going to the community notes.
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Because that also shows
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They are putting people in leadership.
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There's a former republican lobbyist as well as dana white.
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Those are two individuals that will help shape policy.
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- yeah. - and so that to me
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Is the bigger news in this that they are trying
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To change and seek a new path forward
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As opposed to just saying, okay,
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Here's some community notes.
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Everyone should be happy now.
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I think that is a signal of big change at meta.
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Welcome back to "sekulow".
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Let's go ahead and take some phone calls.
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Let's go to ronnie, who's calling in south carolina
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Who's listening on the radio.
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Ronnie, you're on the air.
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- [logan and will] go ahead.
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- [ronnie] so question about facebook.
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Do you guys have any inkling here?
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I was thrown in facebook jail so many times
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Because of fact checkers, quote unquote fact checkers.
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And now my friends do not see my post.
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And if they do, it's a couple of days old.
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I'm not, anything i post on their marketplace,
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Nobody sees it.
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And i'm really curious if any of that's gonna be affected
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Once these- - yeah.
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- [ronnie] changes come in.
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- maybe, maybe.
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So one thing we can actually talk about and share
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Is that they will be moving their content policy team.
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- right. - from california to texas.
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Now we've seen the moves to texas
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From a lot of these platforms.
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We've seen x start to do it.
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We've seen a lot of the others start to move their way
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To texas, a lot of times to austin,
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Which can be a little more liberal leaning.
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But yeah, i assume what you'll have is a good group
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Of people who will probably be leaving the platform
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'cause they don't wanna move and these people don't wanna
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Move to texas and that could shift a lot of these policies.
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- well and mark zuckerberg did say in that announcement
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About the content-based review team going to texas.
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He says, "as we work to promote free expression,
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I think will help us build trust to do this work in places
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Where there's less concern about the bias of our teams."
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So what you can also, i think infer from that,
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I'm not putting words in his mouth,
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But that if they move it from the most liberal
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Part of california. - yeah.
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- northern california, san francisco, silicon valley,
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Then you move it to texas that they're not expecting,
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I assume i'm not once again not putting words
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In their mouth, that not everyone
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Is gonna wanna leave silicon valley
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In san francisco area to move to texas,
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Wherever that may be in texas.
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And by saying there should be less concern about bias
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Of our teams, that they're looking for talent
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That are less biased.
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That maybe come from those areas of the country.
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- maybe they're trying to find people
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That will go into the office again too.
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- exactly.
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Well i mean that's probably also a part of it as well.
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But i think this entire thing from the leadership being,
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Having board members that we know are of like mind,
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That is a huge deal.
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I can't reiterate that enough.
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- yeah, in a platform that large
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In a company's large as meta, the board controls a lot.
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They can do a lot. - right.
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- they can get a lot done.
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And you have someone who is as outspoken as dana white
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And you said another republican lobbyist
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That's getting involved and now on the board as well.
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Those are big moves.
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And look, i know it's easy to just go, oh don't trust them.
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And i'm not saying you should,
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But i think that this is an opportunity,
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Maybe an opportunity to get back a bit where we came from.
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Let's go ahead and take another call.
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Let's go to charles who's calling in georgia online too.
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You're on the air.
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- [charles] hello.
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I just wanted to express my opinion
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That i think the only thing that is really gonna ensure
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That facebook and google
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And big corporations like that,
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That have gotten control over information,
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Which they have in the past used it to censorship,
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Collusion with fbi, all kinds of things
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To limit free speech. - sure.
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- [charles] for political purposes.
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They've demonstrated that they've done that,
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They're capable of it.
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And i think it's what we're seeing now is just a ploy.
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All it is is to like, if you can't beat 'em, join them.
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And then if the democrats get back in control again
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And all that wokeism comes back
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And all that stuff, zuckerberg will be a chameleon
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And join right up with 'em again.
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And unless- - well charles, i would say,
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I want to jump in here because i mean i hear your points.
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- sure. - and that's why
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I keep pointing back to the board members
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Because it's a publicly traded company.
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The board members have a lot of power by saying,
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Hey, these moves you're making company
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Aren't in the best interest of the shareholders.
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'cause what's the point of of doing things in interest
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Of the shareholders to raise the stock price.
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At the end of the day, that's how the corporate america,
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These big corporations,
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The board of directors gets to look it down
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And have oversight
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And say what you're doing is going to decrease the value
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Of this company to the people that own stock of it.
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And if they're going to revert back
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And try to push things that one are draining resources,
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Really expensive and don't produce any profit
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And lose actual users of the platform,
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People like dana white
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Who has built very large companies based off the principles
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That we hold dear and as well as another-
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- [logan] punching people in the face.
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- another person that's conservative as well.
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I think they will have a lot of power
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To try to keep that in check.
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Yes, obviously you can't control a publicly traded company
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From the outside, but you can with your pocketbook.
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- yeah. - with your users.
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And i do think that this is a,
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That we are a big part of the reason this is a shift.
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- yeah. - not the administration.
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That we, the american people that are conservatives
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And believe in american conservative values are a big part
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Of the reason they're making this change.
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- yeah, and i think you have someone like mark zuckerberg
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Obviously of dana white coming in.
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He's a big brazilian jujitsu guy i think.
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Zuckerberg, he's involved in mma,
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He's challenged elon musk to a fight.
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We've had all that happen.
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Remember that that happened just a few years ago.
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How quickly things changed.
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You also have tim cook yesterday
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Pledging a million dollars personally,
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Personally not the apple, you know, usual,
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An additional million dollars of his own money
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To the trump inauguration events committee.
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And that is a little bit traditional.
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But if you read the comments that came out of tim cook,
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And we know that tim cook the head of apple, by the way,
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He's been down at mar-a-lago-
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- auburn grad. - as well.
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Auburn grad.
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He's been down at mar-a-lago with elon,
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With people like zuckerberg.
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So yes, are they kissing up
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To what's happening there?
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Maybe so.
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- i mean, yes, definitely. - yes, yes.
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- definitely, they are. - but maybe that is
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Because they also see how the american people are reacting
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And maybe you'll have companies that actually respond.
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I'm not saying it's gonna happen, i'm just saying
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That it's at least a good spot.
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- let's go ahead and play bite six.
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This is him talking about the censorship issue.
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And it has some really key points that are fascinating to me
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And we'll explain it on the other side.
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- finally, we're gonna work with president trump
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To push back on governments around the world.
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They're going after american companies
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And pushing to censor more.
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The us has the strongest constitutional protections
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For free expression in the world.
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Europe has an ever increasing number of laws,
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Institutionalizing censorship
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And making it difficult to build anything innovative there.
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Latin american countries have secret courts
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That can order companies to quietly take things down.
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China has censored our apps
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From even working in the country.
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The only way that we can push back on this global trend
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Is with the support of the us government.
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And that's why it's been so difficult
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Over the past four years when even the us government
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Has pushed for censorship
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By going after us and other american companies.
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It has emboldened other governments to go even further.
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But now we have the opportunity to restore free expression
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And i'm excited to take it.
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It'll take time to get this right.
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And these are complex systems.
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They're never gonna be perfect.
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There's also a lot of illegal stuff that we still need
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To work very hard to remove.
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But the bottom line is that
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After years of having our content moderation work
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Focused primarily on removing content,
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It is time to focus on reducing mistakes,
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Simplifying our systems
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And getting back to our roots about giving people voice.
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- amazing statement if you will, from mark zuckerberg.
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You may think he's lying in whatever you you wanna think,
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You can think, but this sounds like someone
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Who would've been censored on facebook
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Over the last four years.
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- right. - or last eight years
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Even at this point.
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This sounds like someone that would've been hit with,
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You're spreading false news that, you know,
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Other governments are trying to take down your post.
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- [will] or even our own government.
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- our own government, yeah. - he says,
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"over the past four years the us government
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Has pushed for censorship."
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If you had have said that on facebook,
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There is a chance that one of their fact checkers
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Would have labeled that false or misinformation.
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- well, he admitted that.
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He admitted that they were getting a lot of pressure
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From the biden administration
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And even the biden when they were running
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For election from spreading, you know,
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Information about the laptop and all of that.
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He's admitted to all of that saying,
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Look, they did bow down a bit to the pressure
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'cause when the fbi comes to knocking,
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You get a little nervous
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When you run at these big companies.
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But you know what, i'm gonna take this as a win.
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You may not, but i'm gonna take it as a win.
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Sure, i'd like to see more people watching us on facebook.
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Maybe that means more people
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Are gonna come back to that platform.
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We'll see.
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Gonna take some more calls.
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Rebecca's calling in new hampshire.
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Line three, you're on the air.
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- [rebecca] hi.
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I was thinking too that perhaps
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Facebook and the other ones should consider
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That our privacy is worth something to us
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And that they should allow us to decide what they get
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To have and what they don't.
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I think europe does that
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And i think that's an important thing too,
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Because otherwise they still have a lot of information
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That either can get stolen by other countries
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Or used improperly at their choice.
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- i think you have that sort of same issue here,
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Will, with facebook, which is yeah,
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To create a privacy policy that's stricter, sure.
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But let's, and look, we've all had it happen.
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We've all had the, i'm talking about, you know, dairy queen
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And all of a sudden i'm getting an ad for dairy queen.
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We've had all those situations happen
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In real time, in real life.
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So maybe there should be some of those,
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But it gets a little gray and it gets a little concerning.
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- right, and one that is every social media platform's
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Business model is the data that they get from you
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For offering you a free service.
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- yeah. - as well as ads.
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- yeah. - so yes.
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And rebecca, that is a very robust discussion
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That should happen about individuals privacy,
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But also what they give up when they agree
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To use a platform.
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And so that, i think having conservative minded people
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On the board is very helpful
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For those discussions going forward as well.
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So those are things though
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That weren't necessarily brought up by this announcement.
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And so we can't speak too far to
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What they're thinking about that.
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But i understand that is a concern of a lot of people.
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- and let's quickly go to charlotte,
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Who's calling in georgia on line four.
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Charlotte, you're on the air.
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- [charlotte] yes, kevin and i are just saying hi.
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And thank you guys for the wonderful work that you're doing
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And we are praying for you every day.
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You're in the front lines for us there, even on the phones.
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So we just, kevin and i are just in prayer for the aclj
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And jay and the entire crew.
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- thank you. - your safety as well
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As the wonderful front lines you've been for trump
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And the entire conservative voice of which we are a part.
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- charlotte, i appreciate you calling.
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I appreciate your prayers.
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I wanna thank everyone who does that,
00:25:39.158 --> 00:25:40.593
Who not only supports the work of the aclj,
00:25:40.593 --> 00:25:42.395
Whether that's by signing petitions or donating financially,
00:25:42.395 --> 00:25:45.131
But just pray for us.
00:25:45.131 --> 00:25:46.232
Continue, keep us in your prayers.
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Pray for like she said, pray for our safety,
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For us, for our families, for our team.
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There's so much amazing work happening.
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There's so many people.
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You know, you hear our names, sure.
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There are hundreds of people working full-time here
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At the aclj and we can't do that without you.
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- [jordan] as always, let me thank everybody at tbn
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For providing this time to us at no cost so we
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Can update you on the most important issues of the day.
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From all of us at the aclj, thanks, tbn.
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(soft dramatic music)
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Jay Sekulow - Big Win For Free Speech with Meta Announcement

January 22, 2025 | 26:17

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