Ron Carpenter;Hope Carpenter - Fight To Win

December 21, 2024 | S24:E1221

A pastoral couple whose marriage was rocked by infidelity recounts the repentance and supernatural encounters that saved them.

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Life Today with James Robison | Ron Carpenter;Hope Carpenter - Fight To Win | December 21, 2024
  • Coming up, ron and hope carpenter
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  • Describe the arduous fight for their marriage
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  • After adultery.
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  • >> i remember leaning over the desk and that ugly cry.
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  • You know! aah! ugly cry.
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  • And ron said, "oh, no, no, no!"
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  • "i don't know what this means."
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  • He said, "i don't know what this looks like or means."
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  • I said, "but i do!"
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  • I said, "that's all i needed."
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  • God gave me my miracle
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  • And it was that day that we started our restoration.
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  • Randy: welcome to life today !
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  • Randy: welcome to life today ! i'm randy robison.
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  • I'm randy robison. and tammy is not with me today
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  • And tammy is not with me today because she is
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  • Because she is actually overseas.
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  • Very exciting opportunities
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  • Very exciting opportunities in the future with her.
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  • Very exciting opportunities in the future with her. but today,
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  • In the future with her. but today, we have something special
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  • But today, we have something special for you.
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  • We have something special for you. i don't know where you're at.
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  • For you. i don't know where you're at. i don't know
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  • I don't know where you're at. i don't know what you're facing
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  • I don't know what you're facing but i can tell you this,
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  • What you're facing but i can tell you this, if you want victory today
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  • But i can tell you this, if you want victory today in your life,
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  • If you want victory today in your life, you're going to have
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  • In your life, you're going to have to fight for it.
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  • You're going to have to fight for it. and that's not bad news,
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  • To fight for it. and that's not bad news, that's good news.
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  • And that's not bad news, that's good news. and we've got some
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  • That's good news. and we've got some encouragement for you today.
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  • And we've got some encouragement for you today. my guests are
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  • Encouragement for you today. my guests are ron and hope carpenter.
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  • My guests are ron and hope carpenter. hope has a new book out.
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  • Ron and hope carpenter. hope has a new book out. it's called
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  • Hope has a new book out. it's called if you don't fight
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  • It's called if you don't fight then you don't win .
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  • If you don't fight then you don't win . there she is putting it
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  • Then you don't win . there she is putting it right out there.
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  • There she is putting it right out there. but they've got a story
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  • Right out there. but they've got a story where they've had to fight.
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  • But they've got a story where they've had to fight. fight for their church,
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  • Where they've had to fight. fight for their church, fight for their marriage,
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  • Fight for their church, fight for their marriage, fight for their very souls.
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  • Fight for their marriage, fight for their very souls. so, you're going
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  • Fight for their very souls. so, you're going to be encouraged
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  • So, you're going to be encouraged as you listen to them.
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  • To be encouraged as you listen to them. i invite you to lean in
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  • As you listen to them. i invite you to lean in and accept god's hope
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  • I invite you to lean in and accept god's hope and word for you today.
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  • And accept god's hope and word for you today. ron and hope,
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  • And word for you today. ron and hope, great to have you
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  • Ron and hope, great to have you on the program!
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  • Great to have you on the program! hope: yes!
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  • On the program! hope: yes! so good to be here, randy.
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  • Ron: thank you for having us.
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  • By the way,
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  • By the way, if you missed that program
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  • If you missed that program you can go to lifetoday.org
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  • You can go to lifetoday.org and catch up
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  • And catch up on all the programs.
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  • On all the programs. but for people
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  • But for people that don't really know
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  • You guys have faced,
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  • You guys have faced, give us a brief version
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  • You guys have faced, give us a brief version of that.
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  • Give us a brief version of that. hope: because we don't have
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  • Of that. hope: because we don't have all day, do we?
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  • Hope: because we don't have all day, do we? ron: it's like a mini-series.
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  • Your whole life
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  • Your whole life has been a struggle?
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  • Has been a struggle? i feel like for us
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  • I feel like for us it seems like everything
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  • It seems like everything that we have tried to do,
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  • We get that john 10:10,
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  • We get that john 10:10, the thief comes to steal,
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  • We get that john 10:10, the thief comes to steal, kill, and destroy
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  • The thief comes to steal, kill, and destroy wind in our face.
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  • Kill, and destroy wind in our face. but you know,
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  • Wind in our face. but you know, once we have embraced that,
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  • But you know, once we have embraced that, that there are not just roses
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  • Once we have embraced that, that there are not just roses popping up all over your path
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  • That there are not just roses popping up all over your path when you say yes to jesus,
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  • Popping up all over your path when you say yes to jesus, that you do have an adversary,
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  • When you say yes to jesus, that you do have an adversary, that we have an enemy.
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  • That you do have an adversary, that we have an enemy. sometimes, the enemy is us
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  • That we have an enemy. sometimes, the enemy is us in our dumb mistakes,
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  • Sometimes, the enemy is us in our dumb mistakes, and some of that
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  • In our dumb mistakes, and some of that has been our story.
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  • And some of that has been our story. you just embrace it and say,
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  • Has been our story. you just embrace it and say, i am on this journey
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  • You just embrace it and say, i am on this journey and i'm going to win.
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  • I am on this journey and i'm going to win. because the other option is
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  • And i'm going to win. because the other option is to what?
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  • Because the other option is to what? to fail, to just give up.
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  • To what? to fail, to just give up. we're not going to do that.
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  • To fail, to just give up. we're not going to do that. we have had some journey,
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  • We're not going to do that. we have had some journey, haven't we?
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  • We have had some journey, haven't we? randy: we've seen
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  • Haven't we? randy: we've seen a lot of failure,
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  • Randy: we've seen a lot of failure, and we hear about them
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  • A lot of failure, and we hear about them on the news on social media
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  • And we hear about them on the news on social media within churches.
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  • On the news on social media within churches. this whole thing
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  • Within churches. this whole thing almost completely fell apart.
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  • This whole thing almost completely fell apart. hope: it did.
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  • Almost completely fell apart. hope: it did. randy: tell us what happened.
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  • Hope: it did. randy: tell us what happened. hope: well, it started back
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  • Randy: tell us what happened. hope: well, it started back honestly, if we had time
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  • Hope: well, it started back honestly, if we had time i can go back.
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  • Honestly, if we had time i can go back. had no idea --
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  • I can go back. had no idea -- had no idea, randy,
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  • Had no idea -- had no idea, randy, that the way i was raised
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  • Had no idea, randy, that the way i was raised would really affect
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  • That the way i was raised would really affect who i was as an adult.
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  • Would really affect who i was as an adult. i thought
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  • Who i was as an adult. i thought when i changed my last name,
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  • I thought when i changed my last name, changed my address,
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  • When i changed my last name, changed my address, and got that ring on my finger
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  • Changed my address, and got that ring on my finger everything was going to be
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  • And got that ring on my finger everything was going to be absolutely glorious.
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  • Everything was going to be absolutely glorious. for a while it was.
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  • Absolutely glorious. for a while it was. but i could feel the inferno
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  • For a while it was. but i could feel the inferno kind of growing
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  • But i could feel the inferno kind of growing on the inside of me,
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  • Kind of growing on the inside of me, the anxiety.
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  • On the inside of me, the anxiety. the perfection,
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  • The anxiety. the perfection, feeling like i had to be
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  • The perfection, feeling like i had to be perfect at everything,
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  • Feeling like i had to be perfect at everything, smile at everything,
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  • Perfect at everything, smile at everything, never show any feelings.
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  • Smile at everything, never show any feelings. in about 15 years,
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  • Never show any feelings. in about 15 years, in about 2004,
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  • In about 15 years, in about 2004, i woke up one day
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  • In about 2004, i woke up one day and really exploded.
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  • I woke up one day and really exploded. just like i can't live
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  • And really exploded. just like i can't live like this anymore.
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  • Just like i can't live like this anymore. didn't know what that meant
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  • Like this anymore. didn't know what that meant but just knew that
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  • Didn't know what that meant but just knew that what i was feeling
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  • But just knew that what i was feeling on the inside
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  • What i was feeling on the inside was coming out,
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  • On the inside was coming out, and it is going to come out
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  • Was coming out, and it is going to come out sideways in an ugly way.
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  • And it is going to come out sideways in an ugly way. ron: let me give
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  • Sideways in an ugly way. ron: let me give some context to that.
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  • Ron: let me give some context to that. she had never spoken with me
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  • Some context to that. she had never spoken with me about the things,
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  • She had never spoken with me about the things, about the traumatic things
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  • When she met me,
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  • When she met me, i was already a preacher boy.
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  • I was already a preacher boy. i was already in bible school.
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  • I was already in bible school. she didn't want me
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  • She didn't want me to know the downside,
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  • That she had been raised in.
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  • That she had been raised in. so, i had no clue.
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  • That she had been raised in. so, i had no clue. i just knew i had this woman
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  • So, i had no clue. i just knew i had this woman that was changing,
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  • I just knew i had this woman that was changing, and i didn't know
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  • That was changing, and i didn't know what was wrong
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  • And i didn't know what was wrong and i didn't know
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  • What was wrong and i didn't know how to fix it.
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  • And i didn't know how to fix it. the fact is we grew
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  • How to fix it. the fact is we grew a very large church,
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  • The fact is we grew a very large church, god blessed us
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  • A very large church, god blessed us in a very small city.
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  • God blessed us in a very small city. the city had 80,000 people
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  • In a very small city. the city had 80,000 people and we had 22,000 members,
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  • The city had 80,000 people and we had 22,000 members, so a quarter of the people
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  • And we had 22,000 members, so a quarter of the people went to our church.
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  • So a quarter of the people went to our church. and so that only magnified --
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  • Went to our church. and so that only magnified -- i mean we lived
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  • And so that only magnified -- i mean we lived in a glass house,
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  • I mean we lived in a glass house, and everybody had an opinion.
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  • In a glass house, and everybody had an opinion. and everywhere we went,
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  • And everybody had an opinion. and everywhere we went, everybody knew us.
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  • And everywhere we went, everybody knew us. so, what was in her --
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  • Everybody knew us. so, what was in her -- when you've got
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  • So, what was in her -- when you've got a cracked foundation
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  • When you've got a cracked foundation and you start putting
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  • A cracked foundation and you start putting more weight on it,
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  • And you start putting more weight on it, it just splits.
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  • More weight on it, it just splits. so that was a little bit
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  • It just splits. so that was a little bit about what was happening,
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  • So that was a little bit about what was happening, the pressure cooker
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  • About what was happening, the pressure cooker in her life.
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  • The pressure cooker in her life. randy: what did that split
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  • In her life. randy: what did that split look like?
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  • Randy: what did that split look like? hope: well, it looked like
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  • Look like? hope: well, it looked like that day i went and bought
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  • Hope: well, it looked like that day i went and bought three secular cd's.
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  • That day i went and bought three secular cd's. oooouh!
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  • Three secular cd's. oooouh! that was taboo in my world.
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  • Oooouh! that was taboo in my world. i bought a six pack of beer
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  • That was taboo in my world. i bought a six pack of beer and a bikini,
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  • I bought a six pack of beer and a bikini, had never done that
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  • It was my way of saying,
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  • It was my way of saying, i need to figure out
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  • I need to figure out life myself.
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  • Life myself. i need to figure out
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  • I need to figure out
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  • I need to figure out what's wrong for hope.
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  • I need to figure out what's wrong for hope. not what my mom says,
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  • What's wrong for hope. not what my mom says, my dad says, the church says,
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  • Not what my mom says, my dad says, the church says, the denomination, my husband,
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  • My dad says, the church says, the denomination, my husband, all of that.
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  • The denomination, my husband, all of that. because i'd never
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  • All of that. because i'd never been allowed, honestly,
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  • Because i'd never been allowed, honestly, even in my teenage years
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  • Been allowed, honestly, even in my teenage years to make any decisions.
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  • Even in my teenage years to make any decisions. randy: if it had stopped
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  • To make any decisions. randy: if it had stopped there, you probably would
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  • Randy: if it had stopped there, you probably would have had no problems.
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  • There, you probably would have had no problems. hope: but you know
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  • Have had no problems. hope: but you know sin doesn't stop there,
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  • Hope: but you know sin doesn't stop there, does it?
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  • Sin doesn't stop there, does it? randy: is that what it was?
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  • Does it? randy: is that what it was? it was acting out,
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  • Randy: is that what it was? it was acting out, rebellion in you?
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  • It was acting out, rebellion in you? hope: i think it was.
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  • Rebellion in you? hope: i think it was. i really do.
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  • Hope: i think it was. i really do. i believe any time
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  • I really do. i believe any time we want to do life our own way
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  • I believe any time we want to do life our own way and not god's way
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  • We want to do life our own way and not god's way we're on a slippery slope.
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  • And not god's way we're on a slippery slope. so, ended up in places
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  • We're on a slippery slope. so, ended up in places i shouldn't have been
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  • So, ended up in places i shouldn't have been with people
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  • I shouldn't have been with people i shouldn't have been with.
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  • With people i shouldn't have been with. i was unfaithful
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  • I shouldn't have been with. i was unfaithful to my husband.
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  • I was unfaithful to my husband. this was nine years
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  • To my husband. this was nine years back and forth
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  • This was nine years back and forth of just trying --
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  • Back and forth of just trying -- and then imagine the pressure,
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  • Of just trying -- and then imagine the pressure, randy, of loving jesus
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  • And then imagine the pressure, randy, of loving jesus but doing that too.
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  • Randy, of loving jesus but doing that too. because i really did
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  • But doing that too. because i really did love jesus.
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  • Because i really did love jesus. i really was committed to him
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  • Love jesus. i really was committed to him and wanted to serve him.
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  • I really was committed to him and wanted to serve him. but i was so confused
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  • And wanted to serve him. but i was so confused with who i was as a human,
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  • But i was so confused with who i was as a human, as a person;
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  • With who i was as a human, as a person; and what was right
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  • As a person; and what was right and what was wrong.
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  • Randy: what's funny,
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  • Randy: what's funny, and i mean that more like odd,
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  • And i mean that more like odd, is that we do
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  • Is that we do that kind of thing
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  • That kind of thing searching for some kind
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  • But that distance
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  • But that distance that's inside
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  • But that distance that's inside is the most miserable place.
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  • That's inside is the most miserable place. is it not?
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  • Is the most miserable place. is it not? hope: it was awful.
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  • Is it not? hope: it was awful. ron: what you run to
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  • Hope: it was awful. ron: what you run to to find the peace usually
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  • Ron: what you run to to find the peace usually becomes a heavier weight
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  • To find the peace usually becomes a heavier weight than what you're running from.
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  • Becomes a heavier weight than what you're running from. i think she found that
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  • Than what you're running from. i think she found that to happen in her life.
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  • I think she found that to happen in her life. in this nine-year period --
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  • To happen in her life. in this nine-year period -- you have to understand,
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  • In this nine-year period -- you have to understand, i loved my wife.
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  • You have to understand, i loved my wife. i'm not one of these guys,
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  • I loved my wife. i'm not one of these guys, i love one person,
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  • I'm not one of these guys, i love one person, i'm getting married one time
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  • I love one person, i'm getting married one time and i adored this woman.
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  • I'm getting married one time and i adored this woman. but something was bad wrong.
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  • And i adored this woman. but something was bad wrong. so, then i had to try
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  • But something was bad wrong. so, then i had to try to be a buffer
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  • So, then i had to try to be a buffer because i'm trying
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  • Or turns around or whatever
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  • Or turns around or whatever it is that needed to happen.
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  • It is that needed to happen. but i didn't want it to
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  • But i didn't want it to get out to the church public
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  • Get out to the church public because our ministry,
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  • Because our ministry, at least in that area
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  • During the middle of all this,
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  • During the middle of all this, we went on tbn,
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  • During the middle of all this, we went on tbn, we started going
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  • We went on tbn, we started going on international tv.
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  • We started going on international tv. so, the intensity
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  • On international tv. so, the intensity just got worse.
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  • So, the intensity just got worse. while she was spiraling
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  • Just got worse. while she was spiraling in a downward spiral,
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  • While she was spiraling in a downward spiral, we were exploding.
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  • In a downward spiral, we were exploding. so, you've got
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  • We were exploding. so, you've got this best of times
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  • So, you've got this best of times but worst of times happening
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  • This best of times but worst of times happening at the same time.
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  • But worst of times happening at the same time. hope: such a plan
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  • At the same time. hope: such a plan of the enemy.
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  • Hope: such a plan of the enemy. he's so strategic.
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  • Of the enemy. he's so strategic. ron: but i knew
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  • He's so strategic. ron: but i knew something was wrong.
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  • Ron: but i knew something was wrong. i didn't know what was wrong,
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  • Something was wrong. i didn't know what was wrong, but i knew
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  • I didn't know what was wrong, but i knew something was wrong.
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  • But i knew something was wrong. she would be asleep at night,
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  • Something was wrong. she would be asleep at night, and i would lay my hands,
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  • She would be asleep at night, and i would lay my hands, i wouldn't touch her,
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  • And i would lay my hands, i wouldn't touch her, just over her head and like,
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  • I wouldn't touch her, just over her head and like, "god bring her back to me.
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  • Just over her head and like, "god bring her back to me. i don't know what's going on.
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  • "god bring her back to me. i don't know what's going on. i don't know where she is,
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  • I don't know what's going on. i don't know where she is, i don't know
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  • I don't know where she is, i don't know what she's thinking
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  • I don't know what she's thinking but bring my wife back to me."
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  • Hope: i have
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  • Hope: i have such a good husband.
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  • Hope: i have such a good husband. yeah!
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  • Such a good husband. yeah! one day i want to be like ron
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  • I really do.
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  • I really do. randy: scripture says
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  • As christ loved the church.
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  • As christ loved the church. the church's story
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  • As christ loved the church. the church's story is one of waywardness
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  • The church's story is one of waywardness and unfaithfulness.
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  • Is one of waywardness and unfaithfulness. what a picture of love
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  • And unfaithfulness. what a picture of love right there.
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  • What a picture of love right there. without going through
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  • Right there. without going through all the details,
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  • Without going through all the details, what was the book where
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  • All the details, what was the book where you do go into the details.
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  • What was the book where you do go into the details. hope: the most
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  • You do go into the details. hope: the most beautiful disaster .
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  • Hope: the most beautiful disaster . randy: the most
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  • Beautiful disaster . randy: the most beautiful disaster .
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  • Randy: the most beautiful disaster . so, if someone wants
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  • Beautiful disaster . so, if someone wants to read through it just
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  • So, if someone wants to read through it just to try to get some help --
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  • To read through it just to try to get some help -- but at what point
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  • To try to get some help -- but at what point did the love of your husband,
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  • But at what point did the love of your husband, of christ, and this idea of,
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  • Did the love of your husband, of christ, and this idea of, okay, we're not going
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  • Of christ, and this idea of, okay, we're not going to let this thing
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  • Okay, we're not going to let this thing just be destroyed.
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  • To let this thing just be destroyed. we're going to fight
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  • Just be destroyed. we're going to fight to restore, fight to heal,
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  • We're going to fight to restore, fight to heal, fight to win.
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  • To restore, fight to heal, fight to win. was there a specific
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  • Fight to win. was there a specific turning point
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  • Hope: well, i was
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  • Hope: well, i was just totally miserable.
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  • Just totally miserable. i had reached a place
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  • I had reached a place of just utter desperation.
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  • Of just utter desperation. just sick of myself,
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  • The choices i'd made,
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  • The choices i'd made, sick of hurting my husband,
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  • The choices i'd made, sick of hurting my husband, my family.
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  • Sick of hurting my husband, my family. didn't want to do it
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  • My family. didn't want to do it but didn't know why i did it.
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  • Didn't want to do it but didn't know why i did it. if i could have explained it,
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  • But didn't know why i did it. if i could have explained it, it wouldn't have been
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  • If i could have explained it, it wouldn't have been as maddening.
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  • It wouldn't have been as maddening. but i didn't know
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  • As maddening. but i didn't know why i was doing
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  • But i didn't know why i was doing what i was doing.
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  • Why i was doing what i was doing. so, in 2013, i came to him.
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  • What i was doing. so, in 2013, i came to him. it just was crumbling.
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  • So, in 2013, i came to him. it just was crumbling. i came to him and thought,
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  • It just was crumbling. i came to him and thought, he's such a great man
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  • I came to him and thought, he's such a great man he's going to help me.
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  • He's such a great man he's going to help me. i'm going to come clean
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  • He's going to help me. i'm going to come clean and i'm going
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  • I'm going to come clean and i'm going to tell him everything,
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  • And i'm going to tell him everything, and he's going
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  • To tell him everything, and he's going to fix this for me.
  • 00:09:51.903 --> 00:09:52.904
  • And he's going to fix this for me. and i told him,
  • 00:09:52.971 --> 00:09:53.938
  • To fix this for me. and i told him, and he said,
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  • And i told him, and he said, "you've got 30 minutes.
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  • And he said, "you've got 30 minutes. get your stuff and get out."
  • 00:09:56.341 --> 00:09:57.442
  • "you've got 30 minutes. get your stuff and get out." but randy,
  • 00:09:57.509 --> 00:09:58.610
  • Get your stuff and get out." but randy, that's why i wrote that book,
  • 00:09:58.677 --> 00:09:59.778
  • But randy, that's why i wrote that book, the most beautiful disaster .
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  • That's why i wrote that book, the most beautiful disaster . to the world
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  • The most beautiful disaster . to the world it was the most horrible thing
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  • To the world it was the most horrible thing that could happen but to me
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  • It was the most horrible thing that could happen but to me it was where i hit rock bottom
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  • That could happen but to me it was where i hit rock bottom and where i ran
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  • It was where i hit rock bottom and where i ran right into the face
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  • And where i ran right into the face of the unconditional love
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  • Right into the face of the unconditional love of jesus
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  • Of the unconditional love of jesus that i had never known.
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  • Of jesus that i had never known. i had only known
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  • That i had never known. i had only known conditional love.
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  • I had only known conditional love. and i didn't understand
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  • Conditional love. and i didn't understand god's unconditional love.
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  • And i didn't understand god's unconditional love. that he loved me
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  • God's unconditional love. that he loved me for who i was,
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  • That he loved me for who i was, not for what i did
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  • For who i was, not for what i did or didn't do right.
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  • Not for what i did or didn't do right. it radically changed my life
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  • Or didn't do right. it radically changed my life in 2013.
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  • It radically changed my life in 2013. we struggled.
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  • In 2013. we struggled. we were going
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  • We struggled. we were going to get a divorce.
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  • We were going to get a divorce. ron: it was
  • 00:10:35.013 --> 00:10:35.980
  • To get a divorce. ron: it was a whole different story then.
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  • Ron: it was a whole different story then. hope: yeah,
  • 00:10:37.282 --> 00:10:38.349
  • A whole different story then. hope: yeah, i'm doing good,
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  • Hope: yeah, i'm doing good, ron's not doing well.
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  • I'm doing good, ron's not doing well. ron: you have to understand
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  • Ron's not doing well. ron: you have to understand that nine years
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  • Ron: you have to understand that nine years is a long time.
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  • That nine years is a long time. this wasn't a summer.
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  • Is a long time. this wasn't a summer. this was almost a decade.
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  • This wasn't a summer. this was almost a decade. the toll --
  • 00:10:47.992 --> 00:10:49.994
  • This was almost a decade. the toll -- the toll of covering,
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  • The toll of suspecting
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  • The toll of suspecting but not knowing.
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  • But not knowing. hope: the betrayal --
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  • Hope: the betrayal -- all of it.
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  • All of it. ron: yes.
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  • Ron: yes. and then when you finally
  • 00:10:59.270 --> 00:11:00.405
  • You've been suspecting
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  • You've been suspecting and all the collateral damage,
  • 00:11:02.807 --> 00:11:03.808
  • You've been suspecting and all the collateral damage, the bomb goes off:
  • 00:11:03.875 --> 00:11:04.909
  • And all the collateral damage, the bomb goes off: the humiliation,
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  • The bomb goes off: the humiliation, half the church walks out,
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  • The humiliation, half the church walks out, and social media blows you up.
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  • Half the church walks out, and social media blows you up. your kids won't speak,
  • 00:11:12.117 --> 00:11:13.418
  • And social media blows you up. your kids won't speak, and they go into school
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  • Your kids won't speak, and they go into school and get heckled.
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  • And they go into school and get heckled. they run up
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  • And get heckled. they run up and slam the doors
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  • They run up and slam the doors when they get home
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  • And slam the doors when they get home and won't talk.
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  • When they get home and won't talk. it was awful
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  • And won't talk. it was awful with a capital a.
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  • It was awful with a capital a. it was awful.
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  • With a capital a. it was awful. and i loved her so much,
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  • It was awful. and i loved her so much, that's why it hurt so bad
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  • And i loved her so much, that's why it hurt so bad that i found a place
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  • That's why it hurt so bad that i found a place for her to receive ministry.
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  • That i found a place for her to receive ministry. but as far as --
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  • For her to receive ministry. but as far as -- i had no more energy.
  • 00:11:34.205 --> 00:11:38.143
  • But as far as -- i had no more energy. the thought
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  • I had no more energy. the thought of climbing that mountain
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  • The thought of climbing that mountain of rebuilding trust
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  • Of climbing that mountain of rebuilding trust after the nine years that
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  • Of rebuilding trust after the nine years that we had already been through,
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  • After the nine years that we had already been through, i couldn't see it.
  • 00:11:45.517 --> 00:11:47.185
  • We had already been through, i couldn't see it. so didn't want anybody else,
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  • I couldn't see it. so didn't want anybody else, didn't desire anybody else but
  • 00:11:49.053 --> 00:11:50.622
  • So didn't want anybody else, didn't desire anybody else but i just like i can't do this.
  • 00:11:50.688 --> 00:11:52.090
  • Didn't desire anybody else but i just like i can't do this. hope: wanted to be done.
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  • I just like i can't do this. hope: wanted to be done. ron: in other words,
  • 00:11:53.591 --> 00:11:54.692
  • Hope: wanted to be done. ron: in other words, here where i was.
  • 00:11:54.759 --> 00:11:56.094
  • Ron: in other words, here where i was. loving you hurts too bad.
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  • Here where i was. loving you hurts too bad. loving you is painful.
  • 00:11:58.963 --> 00:12:00.932
  • Loving you hurts too bad. loving you is painful. and so,
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  • Loving you is painful. and so, i want you to be better.
  • 00:12:02.400 --> 00:12:04.636
  • And so, i want you to be better. i know something is wrong.
  • 00:12:04.702 --> 00:12:05.870
  • I want you to be better. i know something is wrong. she was emotionally
  • 00:12:05.937 --> 00:12:07.372
  • I know something is wrong. she was emotionally in a terrible place.
  • 00:12:07.438 --> 00:12:09.407
  • She was emotionally in a terrible place. i put her somewhere.
  • 00:12:09.474 --> 00:12:10.909
  • In a terrible place. i put her somewhere. i paid for that,
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  • I put her somewhere. i paid for that, but i let her know
  • 00:12:12.076 --> 00:12:13.178
  • I paid for that, but i let her know as far as our marriage
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  • But i let her know as far as our marriage i no longer seek
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  • Randy: i completely
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  • Randy: i completely understand that,
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  • Understand that, i'm sure she does too.
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  • I'm sure she does too. but i also know
  • 00:12:20.518 --> 00:12:21.653
  • But i also know that there are times
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  • That there are times when you've got
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  • Ron: i was there.
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  • Ron: i was there. randy: i get it.
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  • Ron: i was there. randy: i get it. so, when we talk about
  • 00:12:29.427 --> 00:12:30.595
  • Randy: i get it. so, when we talk about if you don't fight
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  • So, when we talk about if you don't fight then you don't win ,
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  • If you don't fight then you don't win , what happened in-between
  • 00:12:32.964 --> 00:12:34.098
  • Then you don't win , what happened in-between to get you back to where
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  • What happened in-between to get you back to where you're willing to even --
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  • To get you back to where you're willing to even -- you even have the strength
  • 00:12:37.368 --> 00:12:38.736
  • You're willing to even -- you even have the strength and the desire
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  • You even have the strength and the desire to fight for a marriage?
  • 00:12:40.004 --> 00:12:41.406
  • And the desire to fight for a marriage? hope: well,
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  • When i was just overwhelmed
  • 00:12:44.809 --> 00:12:47.378
  • When i was just overwhelmed by the love of the lord,
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  • By the love of the lord, it just rejuvenated me.
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  • All the brokenness
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  • All the brokenness in almost a day.
  • 00:12:55.820 --> 00:12:57.088
  • All the brokenness in almost a day. really.
  • 00:12:57.155 --> 00:12:58.323
  • In almost a day. really. and then it was a journey
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  • Really. and then it was a journey of recovery
  • 00:12:59.490 --> 00:13:01.492
  • And then it was a journey of recovery and changing my mind
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  • Of recovery and changing my mind and getting strength
  • 00:13:02.994 --> 00:13:04.796
  • And changing my mind and getting strength and learning new patterns
  • 00:13:04.863 --> 00:13:06.397
  • And getting strength and learning new patterns of doing things.
  • 00:13:06.464 --> 00:13:07.665
  • And learning new patterns of doing things. ron: stayed there
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  • Of doing things. ron: stayed there what seven months?
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  • Ron: stayed there what seven months? hope: i stayed there
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  • What seven months? hope: i stayed there nine months.
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  • Hope: i stayed there nine months. i stayed
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  • Nine months. i stayed at living waters ministry
  • 00:13:14.339 --> 00:13:15.473
  • I stayed at living waters ministry in north carolina
  • 00:13:15.540 --> 00:13:16.574
  • At living waters ministry in north carolina for nine months.
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  • In north carolina for nine months. i just really was determined.
  • 00:13:17.842 --> 00:13:18.943
  • For nine months. i just really was determined. i said i'm not going to allow
  • 00:13:19.010 --> 00:13:20.311
  • I just really was determined. i said i'm not going to allow the enemy to win.
  • 00:13:20.378 --> 00:13:22.413
  • I said i'm not going to allow the enemy to win. because i know
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  • The enemy to win. because i know that's the plot and plan
  • 00:13:23.748 --> 00:13:24.816
  • Because i know that's the plot and plan of the enemy
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  • That's the plot and plan of the enemy is to destroy our home
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  • Of the enemy is to destroy our home and destroy our witness
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  • Is to destroy our home and destroy our witness and our testimony
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  • And destroy our witness and our testimony and people's lives
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  • And our testimony and people's lives and our children.
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  • And people's lives and our children. i said if god's doing
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  • And our children. i said if god's doing this supernatural work in me,
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  • I said if god's doing this supernatural work in me, i'm believing
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  • This supernatural work in me, i'm believing for a supernatural work
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  • I'm believing for a supernatural work in our marriage.
  • 00:13:38.329 --> 00:13:39.564
  • For a supernatural work in our marriage. so, i did.
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  • In our marriage. so, i did. i hunkered down
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  • So, i did. i hunkered down and believed for it.
  • 00:13:42.000 --> 00:13:43.101
  • I hunkered down and believed for it. i began to pray and fast
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  • And believed for it. i began to pray and fast and have people pray
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  • I began to pray and fast and have people pray and fast with me.
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  • And have people pray and fast with me. i would write to my children,
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  • And fast with me. i would write to my children, we have three children,
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  • I would write to my children, we have three children, i would write them letters
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  • We have three children, i would write them letters individual letters
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  • I would write them letters individual letters every single day
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  • Individual letters every single day and mail them
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  • Every single day and mail them at the end of the week.
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  • And mail them at the end of the week. and in every one
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  • At the end of the week. and in every one i would tell them,
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  • And in every one i would tell them, "we're believing god
  • 00:13:57.448 --> 00:13:58.549
  • I would tell them, "we're believing god for a miracle.
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  • "we're believing god for a miracle. don't you listen
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  • For a miracle. don't you listen to your daddy!
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  • Don't you listen to your daddy! we're believing god
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  • To your daddy! we're believing god for a miracle."
  • 00:14:03.288 --> 00:14:04.389
  • We're believing god for a miracle." randy: it would be one thing
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  • For a miracle." randy: it would be one thing if his posture was
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  • Randy: it would be one thing if his posture was you go get yourself well,
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  • If his posture was you go get yourself well, we'll bring you back.
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  • You go get yourself well, we'll bring you back. but you had to have god
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  • We'll bring you back. but you had to have god do a work in your heart.
  • 00:14:11.062 --> 00:14:12.230
  • But you had to have god do a work in your heart. ron: i was done.
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  • Do a work in your heart. ron: i was done. i was really done.
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  • I'm the kind of guy,
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  • I'm the kind of guy, my lines don't move.
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  • My lines don't move. when i make a decision,
  • 00:14:19.704 --> 00:14:20.805
  • When i make a decision, it doesn't change.
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  • It doesn't change. so, she knew
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  • So, she knew what she was dealing with.
  • 00:14:23.508 --> 00:14:24.742
  • What she was dealing with. i had a divine encounter.
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  • Super-spiritual about things,
  • 00:14:27.378 --> 00:14:28.513
  • Super-spiritual about things, but the fact is
  • 00:14:28.579 --> 00:14:29.681
  • Super-spiritual about things, but the fact is i believe in the power
  • 00:14:29.747 --> 00:14:30.915
  • But the fact is i believe in the power of the holy spirit,
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  • I believe in the power of the holy spirit, and i believe
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  • Of the holy spirit, and i believe in divine encounters.
  • 00:14:33.418 --> 00:14:34.552
  • And i believe in divine encounters. it's probably the only thing
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  • In divine encounters. it's probably the only thing that i respected enough
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  • It's probably the only thing that i respected enough that could have changed me.
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  • That i respected enough that could have changed me. i had a night --
  • 00:14:38.323 --> 00:14:39.357
  • That could have changed me. i had a night -- i had a jacob experience
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  • I had a night -- i had a jacob experience where i just wrestled
  • 00:14:40.591 --> 00:14:41.726
  • I had a jacob experience where i just wrestled with god.
  • 00:14:41.793 --> 00:14:42.994
  • Where i just wrestled with god. the next morning
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  • With god. the next morning you'd have thought
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  • The next morning you'd have thought i had been in ten fights
  • 00:14:45.396 --> 00:14:46.431
  • You'd have thought i had been in ten fights and come off a ten-day drunk.
  • 00:14:46.497 --> 00:14:47.799
  • I had been in ten fights and come off a ten-day drunk. i called my secretary,
  • 00:14:47.865 --> 00:14:49.634
  • And come off a ten-day drunk. i called my secretary, cancelled all my appointments.
  • 00:14:49.701 --> 00:14:50.868
  • I called my secretary, cancelled all my appointments. i was miserable.
  • 00:14:50.935 --> 00:14:52.170
  • Cancelled all my appointments. i was miserable. i had been up all night.
  • 00:14:52.236 --> 00:14:53.338
  • I was miserable. i had been up all night. i was screaming
  • 00:14:53.404 --> 00:14:54.472
  • I had been up all night. i was screaming at the ceiling.
  • 00:14:54.539 --> 00:14:55.740
  • I was screaming at the ceiling. literally, one of these
  • 00:14:55.807 --> 00:14:56.841
  • At the ceiling. literally, one of these made-for-movie things.
  • 00:14:56.908 --> 00:14:57.942
  • Literally, one of these made-for-movie things. i had this all-night
  • 00:14:58.009 --> 00:14:59.077
  • Made-for-movie things. i had this all-night misery encounter with god.
  • 00:14:59.143 --> 00:15:02.580
  • I had this all-night misery encounter with god. and finally,
  • 00:15:02.647 --> 00:15:03.748
  • Misery encounter with god. and finally, screaming at the ceiling,
  • 00:15:03.815 --> 00:15:04.816
  • And finally, screaming at the ceiling, i was like,
  • 00:15:04.882 --> 00:15:05.984
  • Screaming at the ceiling, i was like, "what do you want me to do?"
  • 00:15:06.050 --> 00:15:07.151
  • I was like, "what do you want me to do?" he said,
  • 00:15:07.218 --> 00:15:08.252
  • "what do you want me to do?" he said, "i want you to call her."
  • 00:15:08.319 --> 00:15:09.487
  • He said, "i want you to call her." you've got to understand,
  • 00:15:09.554 --> 00:15:10.521
  • "i want you to call her." you've got to understand, we weren't speaking.
  • 00:15:10.588 --> 00:15:11.522
  • You've got to understand, we weren't speaking. hope: and if we were,
  • 00:15:11.589 --> 00:15:12.623
  • We weren't speaking. hope: and if we were, we were fighting.
  • 00:15:12.690 --> 00:15:13.791
  • Hope: and if we were, we were fighting. ron: the few times
  • 00:15:13.858 --> 00:15:14.926
  • We were fighting. ron: the few times we had to communicate,
  • 00:15:14.993 --> 00:15:16.060
  • Ron: the few times we had to communicate, it wasn't good.
  • 00:15:16.127 --> 00:15:17.195
  • We had to communicate, it wasn't good. he said,
  • 00:15:17.261 --> 00:15:18.496
  • It wasn't good. he said, "i want you to call her
  • 00:15:18.563 --> 00:15:19.597
  • He said, "i want you to call her and tell her
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  • "i want you to call her and tell her you will not abandon her."
  • 00:15:20.832 --> 00:15:22.100
  • And tell her you will not abandon her." i'm going to tell you,
  • 00:15:22.166 --> 00:15:24.802
  • You will not abandon her." i'm going to tell you, that's something i did
  • 00:15:24.869 --> 00:15:26.404
  • I'm going to tell you, that's something i did by faith
  • 00:15:26.471 --> 00:15:27.705
  • That's something i did by faith because none of the feelings
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  • By faith because none of the feelings were there to say that.
  • 00:15:30.074 --> 00:15:31.476
  • Because none of the feelings were there to say that. i did not want to do that.
  • 00:15:31.542 --> 00:15:33.444
  • Were there to say that. i did not want to do that. and tell them
  • 00:15:33.511 --> 00:15:34.712
  • I did not want to do that. and tell them what was going on
  • 00:15:34.779 --> 00:15:35.747
  • And tell them what was going on when you got that call.
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  • What was going on when you got that call. hope: well, that had been
  • 00:15:36.981 --> 00:15:38.116
  • When you got that call. hope: well, that had been about two months
  • 00:15:38.182 --> 00:15:39.183
  • Hope: well, that had been about two months into the separation.
  • 00:15:39.250 --> 00:15:40.952
  • About two months into the separation. i was losing some hope
  • 00:15:41.019 --> 00:15:42.487
  • Into the separation. i was losing some hope at that point
  • 00:15:42.553 --> 00:15:43.755
  • I was losing some hope at that point because he was not wavering.
  • 00:15:43.821 --> 00:15:45.957
  • At that point because he was not wavering. i had lost 23 pounds,
  • 00:15:46.024 --> 00:15:47.892
  • Because he was not wavering. i had lost 23 pounds, i was just getting
  • 00:15:47.959 --> 00:15:49.861
  • I had lost 23 pounds, i was just getting very desperate;
  • 00:15:49.927 --> 00:15:51.896
  • I was just getting very desperate; that was from fasting
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  • That day,
  • 00:15:55.933 --> 00:15:57.201
  • That day, i went on a walk,
  • 00:15:57.268 --> 00:15:58.770
  • I went on a walk, and it was
  • 00:15:58.836 --> 00:16:00.071
  • And it was a little country road.
  • 00:16:00.138 --> 00:16:02.206
  • And i said,
  • 00:16:05.109 --> 00:16:07.378
  • And i said, "lord, would you send
  • 00:16:07.445 --> 00:16:08.846
  • And i said, "lord, would you send a chicken truck"
  • 00:16:08.913 --> 00:16:10.214
  • "lord, would you send a chicken truck" because that's what
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  • A chicken truck" because that's what was out there,
  • 00:16:11.482 --> 00:16:12.550
  • Because that's what was out there, "around the corner
  • 00:16:12.617 --> 00:16:13.718
  • Was out there, "around the corner and just kill me?
  • 00:16:13.785 --> 00:16:15.019
  • "around the corner and just kill me? could you just take me out?
  • 00:16:15.086 --> 00:16:16.154
  • And just kill me? could you just take me out? i'm causing these people
  • 00:16:16.220 --> 00:16:17.522
  • Could you just take me out? i'm causing these people too much pain.
  • 00:16:17.588 --> 00:16:19.090
  • I'm causing these people too much pain. nothing is working.
  • 00:16:19.157 --> 00:16:20.525
  • Too much pain. nothing is working. could you just take me out?"
  • 00:16:20.591 --> 00:16:22.794
  • Nothing is working. could you just take me out?" and immediately,
  • 00:16:22.860 --> 00:16:24.629
  • Could you just take me out?" and immediately, i saw a flower that had
  • 00:16:24.695 --> 00:16:26.364
  • And immediately, i saw a flower that had popped out of the concrete.
  • 00:16:26.431 --> 00:16:28.599
  • I saw a flower that had popped out of the concrete. i saw this beautiful bird
  • 00:16:28.666 --> 00:16:30.168
  • Popped out of the concrete. i saw this beautiful bird that had flown
  • 00:16:30.234 --> 00:16:31.335
  • I saw this beautiful bird that had flown out of this old hay pasture.
  • 00:16:31.402 --> 00:16:33.771
  • That had flown out of this old hay pasture. and he spoke to me
  • 00:16:33.838 --> 00:16:35.006
  • Out of this old hay pasture. and he spoke to me and said, "if i care for them,
  • 00:16:35.073 --> 00:16:37.809
  • And he spoke to me and said, "if i care for them, don't you know
  • 00:16:37.875 --> 00:16:39.310
  • And said, "if i care for them, don't you know that i care for you?
  • 00:16:39.377 --> 00:16:40.678
  • Don't you know that i care for you? and that i'm working
  • 00:16:40.745 --> 00:16:41.979
  • That i care for you? and that i'm working when you don't know
  • 00:16:42.046 --> 00:16:43.247
  • And that i'm working when you don't know that i'm working?"
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  • When you don't know that i'm working?" and immediately,
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  • That i'm working?" and immediately, hope sprang back up in me.
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  • And immediately, hope sprang back up in me. i turned around, started
  • 00:16:47.185 --> 00:16:48.519
  • Hope sprang back up in me. i turned around, started walking back to the house
  • 00:16:48.586 --> 00:16:49.620
  • I turned around, started walking back to the house and the pastor came and said,
  • 00:16:49.687 --> 00:16:50.788
  • Walking back to the house and the pastor came and said, "i've been looking for you.
  • 00:16:50.855 --> 00:16:52.023
  • And the pastor came and said, "i've been looking for you. ron's called."
  • 00:16:52.090 --> 00:16:53.424
  • "i've been looking for you. ron's called." i was like, oh, no!
  • 00:16:53.491 --> 00:16:54.592
  • Ron's called." i was like, oh, no! i just got my hopes up.
  • 00:16:54.659 --> 00:16:55.626
  • I was like, oh, no! i just got my hopes up. now he's calling. it's bad.
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  • I just got my hopes up. now he's calling. it's bad. what are you doing, god?
  • 00:16:57.028 --> 00:16:58.963
  • Now he's calling. it's bad. what are you doing, god? so, i went inside,
  • 00:16:59.030 --> 00:17:00.731
  • What are you doing, god? so, i went inside, tried to dry my face
  • 00:17:00.798 --> 00:17:02.266
  • So, i went inside, tried to dry my face and the lord took me
  • 00:17:02.333 --> 00:17:03.434
  • Tried to dry my face and the lord took me to the scriptures.
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  • And the lord took me to the scriptures. god, you've got
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  • To the scriptures. god, you've got to give me a word.
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  • God, you've got to give me a word. and he took me
  • 00:17:06.938 --> 00:17:07.972
  • To give me a word. and he took me to the scripture in samuel
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  • And he took me to the scripture in samuel where david
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  • To the scripture in samuel where david was going to buy a field.
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  • Where david was going to buy a field. and the guy was like, you
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  • Was going to buy a field. and the guy was like, you don't have to pay anything,
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  • And the guy was like, you don't have to pay anything, you're the king.
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  • Don't have to pay anything, you're the king. and he said, "i will not
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  • You're the king. and he said, "i will not offer anything to the lord
  • 00:17:18.649 --> 00:17:19.884
  • And he said, "i will not offer anything to the lord that does not cost me."
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  • Offer anything to the lord that does not cost me." i said, "god,
  • 00:17:22.053 --> 00:17:23.354
  • That does not cost me." i said, "god, what are you saying to me?"
  • 00:17:23.421 --> 00:17:24.755
  • I said, "god, what are you saying to me?" he said,
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  • What are you saying to me?" he said, "you've done everything
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  • He said, "you've done everything but sow a seed."
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  • "you've done everything but sow a seed." i said, "god,
  • 00:17:29.193 --> 00:17:30.361
  • But sow a seed." i said, "god, i don't have anything.
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  • I said, "god, i don't have anything. all i have is a $1,000
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  • I don't have anything. all i have is a $1,000 to my name.
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  • All i have is a $1,000 to my name. i have $1,000 i put aside."
  • 00:17:33.798 --> 00:17:35.967
  • To my name. i have $1,000 i put aside." i had no credit cards,
  • 00:17:36.033 --> 00:17:37.235
  • I have $1,000 i put aside." i had no credit cards, i had no insurance,
  • 00:17:37.301 --> 00:17:38.402
  • I had no credit cards, i had no insurance, i had nothing.
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  • I had no insurance, i had nothing. he told me to give it
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  • I had nothing. he told me to give it to the people
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  • He told me to give it to the people that i was staying with.
  • 00:17:41.939 --> 00:17:43.107
  • To the people that i was staying with. so, i went down there,
  • 00:17:43.174 --> 00:17:44.275
  • That i was staying with. so, i went down there, and i took the $1,000
  • 00:17:44.342 --> 00:17:45.343
  • So, i went down there, and i took the $1,000 and i told them the story,
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  • And i took the $1,000 and i told them the story, slid it across the table.
  • 00:17:46.444 --> 00:17:47.645
  • And i told them the story, slid it across the table. i said, "i'm believing
  • 00:17:47.712 --> 00:17:48.846
  • Slid it across the table. i said, "i'm believing for a miracle."
  • 00:17:48.913 --> 00:17:49.981
  • I said, "i'm believing for a miracle." ron calls five minutes later
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  • For a miracle." ron calls five minutes later and he said --
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  • Ron calls five minutes later and he said -- told me the whole night.
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  • And he said -- told me the whole night. and he said,
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  • Told me the whole night. and he said, "and i've called to tell you
  • 00:17:56.087 --> 00:17:57.255
  • And he said, "and i've called to tell you that i will not abandon you."
  • 00:17:57.321 --> 00:17:58.723
  • "and i've called to tell you that i will not abandon you." and i just -- i remember
  • 00:17:58.789 --> 00:18:00.892
  • That i will not abandon you." and i just -- i remember leaning over onto the desk
  • 00:18:00.958 --> 00:18:02.693
  • And i just -- i remember leaning over onto the desk and that ugly cry.
  • 00:18:02.760 --> 00:18:03.895
  • Leaning over onto the desk and that ugly cry. aah! ugly cry!
  • 00:18:03.961 --> 00:18:06.097
  • And that ugly cry. aah! ugly cry! and ron said, "oh, no, no, no!
  • 00:18:06.164 --> 00:18:08.332
  • Aah! ugly cry! and ron said, "oh, no, no, no! i don't know what this means."
  • 00:18:08.399 --> 00:18:09.767
  • And ron said, "oh, no, no, no! i don't know what this means." [laughing]
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  • I don't know what this means." [laughing] he said,
  • 00:18:11.202 --> 00:18:12.236
  • [laughing] he said, "i really don't know what
  • 00:18:12.303 --> 00:18:13.337
  • He said, "i really don't know what this looks like or means."
  • 00:18:13.404 --> 00:18:14.539
  • "i really don't know what this looks like or means." i said, "but i do!
  • 00:18:14.605 --> 00:18:15.840
  • This looks like or means." i said, "but i do! that's all i needed."
  • 00:18:15.907 --> 00:18:17.175
  • I said, "but i do! that's all i needed." god gave me my miracle.
  • 00:18:17.241 --> 00:18:18.876
  • That's all i needed." god gave me my miracle. and it was that day
  • 00:18:18.943 --> 00:18:20.411
  • God gave me my miracle. and it was that day that we started
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  • And it was that day that we started our restoration.
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  • Okay, there is
  • 00:18:24.382 --> 00:18:25.683
  • Okay, there is so much more to this.
  • 00:18:25.750 --> 00:18:26.984
  • So much more to this. i want you to know
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  • I want you to know god has not abandoned you.
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  • God has not abandoned you. i don't know where you're at.
  • 00:18:29.687 --> 00:18:30.788
  • I don't know where you're at. i don't know where you failed.
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  • Who has failed you,
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  • Who has failed you, but you feel like you're done.
  • 00:18:34.692 --> 00:18:36.527
  • Who has failed you, but you feel like you're done. or you feel
  • 00:18:36.594 --> 00:18:37.728
  • But you feel like you're done. or you feel like you're useless,
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  • Or you feel like you're useless, that you just want to die.
  • 00:18:38.930 --> 00:18:40.598
  • Like you're useless, that you just want to die. what a word
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  • That you just want to die. what a word from a husband to a wife!
  • 00:18:42.233 --> 00:18:44.268
  • What a word from a husband to a wife! a husband who doesn't
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  • From a husband to a wife! a husband who doesn't have it within himself
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  • A husband who doesn't have it within himself saying, "i'm not
  • 00:18:46.871 --> 00:18:48.239
  • Have it within himself saying, "i'm not going to abandon you."
  • 00:18:48.306 --> 00:18:49.540
  • Saying, "i'm not going to abandon you." that's god.
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  • Going to abandon you." that's god. god's saying that
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  • Right now.
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  • Right now. if you want
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  • If you want to pick up that phone
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  • To pick up that phone and have someone
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  • And have someone just pray with you,
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  • Just pray with you, it doesn't matter
  • 00:18:59.283 --> 00:19:00.318
  • It doesn't matter where you're at,
  • 00:19:00.384 --> 00:19:01.552
  • Where you're at, it doesn't matter
  • 00:19:01.619 --> 00:19:02.620
  • It doesn't matter what you've been through.
  • 00:19:02.687 --> 00:19:03.654
  • What you've been through. you may not even know
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  • You may not even know what the future holds, but
  • 00:19:04.855 --> 00:19:05.890
  • What the future holds, but somebody will pray with you
  • 00:19:05.957 --> 00:19:06.958
  • Somebody will pray with you right now.
  • 00:19:07.024 --> 00:19:08.059
  • Right now. just pick that phone up,
  • 00:19:08.125 --> 00:19:09.227
  • Just pick that phone up, call that number
  • 00:19:09.293 --> 00:19:10.394
  • Call that number for some encouragement.
  • 00:19:10.461 --> 00:19:11.562
  • For some encouragement. because god will give you
  • 00:19:11.629 --> 00:19:14.532
  • Because god will give you that ability to fight
  • 00:19:14.599 --> 00:19:16.934
  • That ability to fight because he's already
  • 00:19:17.001 --> 00:19:18.269
  • Because he's already won the fight.
  • 00:19:18.336 --> 00:19:19.904
  • Won the fight. you're going to learn more
  • 00:19:19.971 --> 00:19:21.005
  • You're going to learn more about that on another program
  • 00:19:21.072 --> 00:19:22.406
  • About that on another program with ron and hope.
  • 00:19:22.473 --> 00:19:24.175
  • With ron and hope. but right now,
  • 00:19:24.242 --> 00:19:25.243
  • But right now, you might just need
  • 00:19:25.309 --> 00:19:26.410
  • You might just need that encouragement
  • 00:19:26.477 --> 00:19:27.511
  • That encouragement that hope got on that day
  • 00:19:27.578 --> 00:19:28.679
  • That hope got on that day out of nowhere --
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  • We have another opportunity
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  • We have another opportunity that we're going to show you
  • 00:19:34.919 --> 00:19:36.053
  • We have another opportunity that we're going to show you because many of you
  • 00:19:36.120 --> 00:19:37.255
  • That we're going to show you because many of you have supported this outreach
  • 00:19:37.321 --> 00:19:38.556
  • Because many of you have supported this outreach over the years,
  • 00:19:38.623 --> 00:19:39.724
  • Have supported this outreach over the years, of giving hope to people
  • 00:19:39.790 --> 00:19:40.791
  • Over the years, of giving hope to people that have no hope
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  • They have no hope.
  • 00:19:43.127 --> 00:19:44.128
  • They have no hope. and that is the fight
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  • And that is the fight against malnutrition,
  • 00:19:45.463 --> 00:19:46.464
  • Against malnutrition, the fight against hunger,
  • 00:19:46.530 --> 00:19:47.765
  • The fight against hunger, oftentimes,
  • 00:19:47.832 --> 00:19:48.966
  • Oftentimes, the fight against death.
  • 00:19:49.033 --> 00:19:51.068
  • The fight against death. we have partners in place
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  • We have partners in place right now around the world
  • 00:19:52.270 --> 00:19:53.337
  • Right now around the world to help us in this fight,
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  • To help us in this fight, right now,
  • 00:19:56.474 --> 00:19:57.508
  • Right now, the situation is critical.
  • 00:19:57.575 --> 00:19:59.410
  • The situation is critical. children are dying in clinics,
  • 00:19:59.477 --> 00:20:01.545
  • Children are dying in clinics, and they don't need to.
  • 00:20:01.612 --> 00:20:02.880
  • And they don't need to. we need to reach them
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  • We need to reach them before they get to that point,
  • 00:20:04.148 --> 00:20:05.182
  • Before they get to that point, before they get to the clinic.
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  • Before they get to the clinic. we do it
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  • We do it through your participation.
  • 00:20:08.352 --> 00:20:09.420
  • Through your participation. we do it through $30
  • 00:20:09.487 --> 00:20:10.688
  • We do it through $30 that helps feed three children
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  • That helps feed three children for the next three months.
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  • For the next three months. a gift of $50 feeds five.
  • 00:20:13.324 --> 00:20:15.559
  • A gift of $50 feeds five. $100 will help feed ten.
  • 00:20:15.626 --> 00:20:17.395
  • $100 will help feed ten. maybe you can give $1,000
  • 00:20:17.461 --> 00:20:18.863
  • Maybe you can give $1,000 and help feed 100 children
  • 00:20:18.929 --> 00:20:20.798
  • And help feed 100 children just for the next few months.
  • 00:20:20.865 --> 00:20:22.900
  • Just for the next few months. whatever god has
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  • Whatever god has enabled you to do,
  • 00:20:24.068 --> 00:20:25.169
  • Enabled you to do, whatever he's put
  • 00:20:25.236 --> 00:20:26.337
  • Whatever he's put on your heart to do,
  • 00:20:26.404 --> 00:20:27.571
  • On your heart to do, i pray you'll do it right now.
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  • I pray you'll do it right now. over 350,000 children
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  • Over 350,000 children every single day on average
  • 00:20:32.143 --> 00:20:34.578
  • Every single day on average receive that bowl
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  • Receive that bowl of nutritious soup,
  • 00:20:36.447 --> 00:20:37.782
  • Of nutritious soup, and that is just to get them
  • 00:20:37.848 --> 00:20:38.949
  • And that is just to get them through the day.
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  • Through the day. oftentimes, it is in areas
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  • Oftentimes, it is in areas where there has been a crisis,
  • 00:20:41.986 --> 00:20:43.921
  • Where there has been a crisis, perhaps a famine,
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  • Perhaps a famine, perhaps a flood,
  • 00:20:45.356 --> 00:20:46.657
  • Perhaps a flood, perhaps displacement
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  • Perhaps displacement from civil unrest.
  • 00:20:48.159 --> 00:20:49.393
  • From civil unrest. whatever the situation,
  • 00:20:49.460 --> 00:20:50.928
  • Whatever the situation, we go in and hold them over
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  • We go in and hold them over until they can get back
  • 00:20:53.164 --> 00:20:54.465
  • Until they can get back on their feet
  • 00:20:54.532 --> 00:20:55.766
  • On their feet and can continue to build
  • 00:20:55.833 --> 00:20:57.101
  • And can continue to build for their future.
  • 00:20:57.168 --> 00:20:58.402
  • For their future. now that's a great thing,
  • 00:20:58.469 --> 00:20:59.804
  • Now that's a great thing, i think.
  • 00:20:59.870 --> 00:21:01.038
  • I think. a lot of organizations
  • 00:21:01.105 --> 00:21:02.340
  • A lot of organizations will do this.
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  • Will do this. but let me tell you
  • 00:21:03.841 --> 00:21:04.909
  • But let me tell you a key difference.
  • 00:21:04.975 --> 00:21:06.243
  • A key difference. we do it
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  • We do it in the name of jesus christ.
  • 00:21:07.645 --> 00:21:08.913
  • In the name of jesus christ. that's what we're inviting you
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  • That's what we're inviting you to be a part of,
  • 00:21:10.314 --> 00:21:11.582
  • To be a part of, to be the hands and feet
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  • To be the hands and feet of jesus,
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  • Of jesus, to be the gospel
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  • To be the gospel in word and deed.
  • 00:21:15.486 --> 00:21:17.555
  • In word and deed. not just to tell people
  • 00:21:17.621 --> 00:21:18.789
  • Not just to tell people about christ
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  • About christ or tell them about his love
  • 00:21:20.257 --> 00:21:22.226
  • Or tell them about his love but to show it
  • 00:21:22.293 --> 00:21:23.427
  • But to show it to the people in need.
  • 00:21:23.494 --> 00:21:25.062
  • To the people in need. pick up the phone
  • 00:21:25.129 --> 00:21:26.530
  • Pick up the phone or go online,
  • 00:21:26.597 --> 00:21:27.732
  • Or go online, however you prefer.
  • 00:21:27.798 --> 00:21:29.200
  • However you prefer. make the best gift you can
  • 00:21:29.266 --> 00:21:30.968
  • Make the best gift you can towards mission feeding.
  • 00:21:31.035 --> 00:21:32.703
  • Towards mission feeding. know that it will save lives.
  • 00:21:32.770 --> 00:21:34.739
  • Know that it will save lives. it will give them hope.
  • 00:21:34.805 --> 00:21:36.907
  • It will give them hope. it will give them a future.
  • 00:21:36.974 --> 00:21:38.809
  • It will give them a future. and it will be done
  • 00:21:38.876 --> 00:21:40.478
  • And it will be done in the name of jesus christ.
  • 00:21:40.544 --> 00:21:43.581
  • Right now across the continent of africa,
  • 00:21:44.582 --> 00:21:47.051
  • Children are suffering,
  • 00:21:47.051 --> 00:21:49.153
  • Facing severe malnutrition and even death.
  • 00:21:49.153 --> 00:21:51.989
  • Extreme drought and famine
  • 00:21:51.989 --> 00:21:54.058
  • Putting at risk thousands of lives
  • 00:21:54.058 --> 00:21:56.560
  • Means we must replenish food supplies immediately
  • 00:21:56.560 --> 00:21:59.130
  • To keep feeding the 350,000 children
  • 00:21:59.130 --> 00:22:02.366
  • And help reach more people in desperate need.
  • 00:22:02.366 --> 00:22:05.736
  • Through life's mission feeding outreach,
  • 00:22:05.736 --> 00:22:07.905
  • Your gift of love can be an answer to prayer
  • 00:22:07.905 --> 00:22:10.040
  • For a hurting and hungry child in their time of need.
  • 00:22:10.040 --> 00:22:13.611
  • Call now with your life-saving gift
  • 00:22:13.611 --> 00:22:15.946
  • Of $30, $50, or $100
  • 00:22:15.946 --> 00:22:18.949
  • To help feed and care for
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  • Three, five, or ten children
  • 00:22:21.018 --> 00:22:23.020
  • For three full months.
  • 00:22:23.020 --> 00:22:25.089
  • With your gift of any amount,
  • 00:22:25.089 --> 00:22:27.158
  • We'll send the daily life devotional calendar.
  • 00:22:27.158 --> 00:22:29.460
  • This perpetual calendar has 365 days' worth of scriptures
  • 00:22:29.460 --> 00:22:33.397
  • And inspirational thoughts to remind you
  • 00:22:33.397 --> 00:22:35.366
  • Of the rest you can find in god's loving arms.
  • 00:22:35.366 --> 00:22:38.702
  • With your gift of $100 or more,
  • 00:22:38.702 --> 00:22:40.805
  • You may request the "the light of life" desk lamp.
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  • Find comfort and encouragement
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  • Randy: so many of you
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  • Randy: so many of you have fought with us over the years
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  • Have fought with us over the years to save people's lives.
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  • Over the years to save people's lives. if you'd like to join us,
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  • Beautiful, glorious fight to give life and hope to so many people
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  • To give life and hope to so many people around the world.
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  • To so many people around the world. and listen, if you want
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  • We'd love to send it to you. i appreciate you guys being so open and honest.
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  • I appreciate you guys being so open and honest. i know that you've learned
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  • Being so open and honest. i know that you've learned so much and come so far since
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  • I know that you've learned so much and come so far since all of that stuff came out.
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  • So much and come so far since all of that stuff came out. would you guys join us for
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  • All of that stuff came out. would you guys join us for another program where we can
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  • Would you guys join us for another program where we can talk about unpacking some
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  • Another program where we can talk about unpacking some of the lessons you've learned?
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  • Talk about unpacking some of the lessons you've learned? hope: absolutely!
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  • Of the lessons you've learned? hope: absolutely! ron: we'll be honored.
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  • Hope: absolutely! ron: we'll be honored. randy: great!
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  • Ron: we'll be honored. randy: great! i look forward to it.
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  • Randy: great! i look forward to it. come back, and if you're
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  • And see all the programs. but we'll see you again next time here on life today .
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  • Jeff: have you ever wondered
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  • Jeff: have you ever wondered what it's really all about --
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  • What it's really all about -- the christian life?
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  • The christian life? obviously,
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  • Obviously, it starts very basic
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  • It starts very basic and very simple,
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  • With jesus christ,
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  • With jesus christ, a free gift by his grace.
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  • With jesus christ, a free gift by his grace. but then, after that,
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  • A free gift by his grace. but then, after that, have you ever wondered,
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  • But then, after that, have you ever wondered, how do i hit the target
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  • Have you ever wondered, how do i hit the target with my life?
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  • How do i hit the target with my life? how do i please jesus?
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  • With my life? how do i please jesus? how do i serve him?
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  • How do i please jesus? how do i serve him? how do i give him
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  • How do i serve him? how do i give him glory and honor
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  • How do i give him glory and honor by the way i live?
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  • Glory and honor by the way i live? obviously,
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  • By the way i live? obviously, we want to carry out
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  • Obviously, we want to carry out his characteristics;
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  • We want to carry out his characteristics; we want to live like him.
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  • His characteristics; we want to live like him. but jesus, in the gospels,
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  • We want to live like him. but jesus, in the gospels, and also,
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  • But jesus, in the gospels, and also, the first part of acts,
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  • And also, the first part of acts, we see that he gives us
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  • The first part of acts, we see that he gives us a commission.
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  • We see that he gives us a commission. he gives us
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  • A commission. he gives us some marching orders.
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  • He gives us some marching orders. in fact,
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  • Some marching orders. in fact, he gives us the bull's-eye.
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  • In fact, he gives us the bull's-eye. he tells us
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  • He gives us the bull's-eye. he tells us what the target is.
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  • He tells us what the target is. if you and i were
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  • What the target is. if you and i were playing darts,
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  • If you and i were playing darts, and we were to throw darts
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  • Playing darts, and we were to throw darts at a dart board,
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  • And we were to throw darts at a dart board, and you hit the bull's-eye,
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  • At a dart board, and you hit the bull's-eye, and i threw mine way off
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  • And you hit the bull's-eye, and i threw mine way off and went over
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  • And i threw mine way off and went over and circled my own bull's-eye,
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  • And went over and circled my own bull's-eye, that would be cheating.
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  • And circled my own bull's-eye, that would be cheating. and so, as christian people,
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  • That would be cheating. and so, as christian people, we need to know
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  • And so, as christian people, we need to know what jesus's bull's-eye is.
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  • We need to know what jesus's bull's-eye is. what's the target?
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  • What jesus's bull's-eye is. what's the target? in matthew 28,
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  • What's the target? in matthew 28, a familiar passage tells us
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  • In matthew 28, a familiar passage tells us the commission from jesus,
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  • A familiar passage tells us the commission from jesus, and he says this:
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  • The commission from jesus, and he says this: "go into all the world
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  • And he says this: "go into all the world and preach the gospel
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  • "go into all the world and preach the gospel and make disciples."
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  • I grew up as a young boy
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  • I grew up as a young boy in the christian faith
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  • In the christian faith and i always thought
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  • And i always thought it was more about "go."
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  • It was more about "go." so i was going and going
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  • So i was going and going and going
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  • And going but not a lot of times
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  • Hitting the bull's-eye,
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  • Hitting the bull's-eye, if i was hitting the target.
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  • Hitting the bull's-eye, if i was hitting the target. the verb is the action word
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  • If i was hitting the target. the verb is the action word and it's "make."
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  • The verb is the action word and it's "make." "go" is a participle
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  • And it's "make." "go" is a participle which actually means,
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  • "go" is a participle which actually means, "as you're going,"
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  • Which actually means, "as you're going," so it's understood
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  • "as you're going," so it's understood that there's movement
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  • So it's understood that there's movement if you're a person
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  • That there's movement if you're a person who is following jesus christ.
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  • If you're a person who is following jesus christ. but "make," again,
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  • Who is following jesus christ. but "make," again, is the target.
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  • But "make," again, is the target. my question to you today
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  • Is the target. my question to you today is this:
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  • My question to you today is this: i hope you've received
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  • Is this: i hope you've received jesus christ as your
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  • I hope you've received jesus christ as your personal lord and savior.
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  • Jesus christ as your personal lord and savior. that's the best decision
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  • Personal lord and savior. that's the best decision you could ever make.
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  • That's the best decision you could ever make. that's where real life
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  • You could ever make. that's where real life is found.
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  • That's where real life is found. but after that,
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  • Is found. but after that, what do you do?
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  • But after that, what do you do? my question is:
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  • What do you do? my question is: have you ever "made?"
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  • My question is: have you ever "made?" are you willing to "make?"
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  • Have you ever "made?" are you willing to "make?" you say, "oh, jeff,
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  • Are you willing to "make?" you say, "oh, jeff, i couldn't do that!
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  • You say, "oh, jeff, i couldn't do that! i mean, i've got problems,
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  • I couldn't do that! i mean, i've got problems, i've got challenges."
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  • I mean, i've got problems, i've got challenges." and you know what?
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  • I've got challenges." and you know what? the first disciples did too.
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  • And you know what? the first disciples did too. jesus wants to use you.
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  • The first disciples did too. jesus wants to use you. you have a purpose.
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  • Jesus wants to use you. you have a purpose. you've been designed by god
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  • You have a purpose. you've been designed by god and you are his plan
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  • You've been designed by god and you are his plan for extending his grace
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  • And you are his plan for extending his grace and mercy in the earth.
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  • For extending his grace and mercy in the earth. and so start today.
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  • And mercy in the earth. and so start today. start finding
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  • And so start today. start finding the resources you need,
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  • Start finding the resources you need, the friends you need,
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  • The resources you need, the friends you need, the relationships you need.
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  • The friends you need, the relationships you need. whatever you need,
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  • The relationships you need. whatever you need, it's available
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  • Whatever you need, it's available so that you can start
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  • It's available so that you can start to make disciples.
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  • So that you can start to make disciples. i hope you will look up
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  • To make disciples. i hope you will look up not many days from now
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  • I hope you will look up not many days from now and say, "you know what?
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  • Not many days from now and say, "you know what? i haven't achieved it,
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  • And say, "you know what? i haven't achieved it, but i'm well on my way
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  • I haven't achieved it, but i'm well on my way to this "making" process
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  • But i'm well on my way to this "making" process of hitting the bull's-eye.
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  • >> i think it is great to always understand
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  • That deliverance is not meant to be an end in itself,
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  • It is actually meant to be a beginning.
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  • Getting established in freedom.
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