Katherine Wolf - Defeating Darkness

January 30, 2025 | S25:E29

The author of “Treasures In The Dark” explains how she finds hope in a life of unimaginable hurt.

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Life Today with James Robison | Katherine Wolf - Defeating Darkness | January 30, 2025

>> so for me, i learned to kind of live
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In a cycle of grief, lament, hurt, sadness --
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And also, hope and joy and trust and faith.
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Hope is not a fixed point you reach.
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That is not a thing.
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Hope is the living force that propels us forward.
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Katherine wolf shares how she found
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The most valuable treasures
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In the darkest of times.
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♪
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Randy: welcome to life today .
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Randy: welcome to life today . i'm randy robison.
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Randy: welcome to life today . i'm randy robison. tammy trent is with me.
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I'm randy robison. tammy trent is with me. tammy, it is great
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Tammy trent is with me. tammy, it is great that you get to see
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Tammy, it is great that you get to see our guest today
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That you get to see our guest today because katherine wolf
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Our guest today because katherine wolf has been with us many times
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On life today .
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On life today . and just to give you
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On life today . and just to give you a little background,
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And just to give you a little background, when she was 26 back in 2008,
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A little background, when she was 26 back in 2008, she suffered
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When she was 26 back in 2008, she suffered a brainstem stroke
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She suffered a brainstem stroke that changed her life forever.
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A brainstem stroke that changed her life forever. since then, she has faced
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That changed her life forever. since then, she has faced a lot of difficulties.
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Since then, she has faced a lot of difficulties. in 2013, she had
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A lot of difficulties. in 2013, she had an unrelated aneurysm
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In 2013, she had an unrelated aneurysm and surgery for that.
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An unrelated aneurysm and surgery for that. in 2017, she was diagnosed
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And surgery for that. in 2017, she was diagnosed with multiple life-threatening
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In 2017, she was diagnosed with multiple life-threatening vertebral artery dissections.
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With multiple life-threatening vertebral artery dissections. i don't even know
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Vertebral artery dissections. i don't even know what that means.
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I don't even know what that means. it doesn't sound good.
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What that means. it doesn't sound good. in 2019, she was diagnosed
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It doesn't sound good. in 2019, she was diagnosed with an ultra-rare
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In 2019, she was diagnosed with an ultra-rare neurovascular disorder.
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With an ultra-rare neurovascular disorder. i say all that
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Neurovascular disorder. i say all that just to set up a little bit
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I say all that just to set up a little bit of the things
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Just to set up a little bit of the things that she has walked through.
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Of the things that she has walked through. because she has a new book
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That she has walked through. because she has a new book and it is called
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Because she has a new book and it is called treasures in the dark .
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And it is called treasures in the dark . this is someone
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Treasures in the dark . this is someone who has faced some darkness
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This is someone who has faced some darkness but she is such a light,
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Who has faced some darkness but she is such a light, tammy!
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But she is such a light, tammy! tammy: oh, my goodness, randy.
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Tammy! tammy: oh, my goodness, randy. i'm so happy to be here today,
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Tammy: oh, my goodness, randy. i'm so happy to be here today, just as you said.
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I'm so happy to be here today, just as you said. i've not had the chance
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Just as you said. i've not had the chance to meet her personally
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I've not had the chance to meet her personally but i'm aware of her story.
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To meet her personally but i'm aware of her story. it is one of those stories
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But i'm aware of her story. it is one of those stories where you think,
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It is one of those stories where you think, how could one person
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Where you think, how could one person take one more thing
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How could one person take one more thing and turn it into good?
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Take one more thing and turn it into good? how can you find hope
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And turn it into good? how can you find hope in your suffering?
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How can you find hope in your suffering? how can you find light
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In your suffering? how can you find light in the darkness of your life?
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How can you find light in the darkness of your life? and it is just constant,
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In the darkness of your life? and it is just constant, constant, constant.
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And it is just constant, constant, constant. but she is such a light.
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Constant, constant. but she is such a light. randy: i'm excited
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But she is such a light. randy: i'm excited for you to meet her.
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Randy: i'm excited for you to meet her. would you welcome katherine?
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For you to meet her. would you welcome katherine? great to see you!
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Would you welcome katherine? great to see you! katherine: it is so good
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Great to see you! katherine: it is so good to be here, guys!
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Katherine: it is so good to be here, guys! thank you for having me.
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To be here, guys! thank you for having me. randy: you roll out here
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Thank you for having me. randy: you roll out here in your wheelchair
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Randy: you roll out here in your wheelchair and you're like beaming.
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In your wheelchair and you're like beaming. when you look at --
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And you're like beaming. when you look at -- you've been through more
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When you look at -- you've been through more than most people, fortunately,
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You've been through more than most people, fortunately, ever have to go through.
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Than most people, fortunately, ever have to go through. where does this hope
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Ever have to go through. where does this hope and all of your hurting
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Katherine: my hope
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Katherine: my hope is in the lord.
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Is in the lord. my joy is in the lord.
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My joy is in the lord. but i'm so grateful
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But i never want
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But i never want a joyous personality,
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But i never want a joyous personality, and just my natural mo to
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A joyous personality, and just my natural mo to make other people feel like,
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And just my natural mo to make other people feel like, wait, i don't feel joy
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Make other people feel like, wait, i don't feel joy and i don't feel that way.
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Wait, i don't feel joy and i don't feel that way. when the reality is
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And i don't feel that way. when the reality is i do have sorrow and joy
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When the reality is i do have sorrow and joy existing in the same story.
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I do have sorrow and joy existing in the same story. but i've just seen too much
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Existing in the same story. but i've just seen too much of the goodness of god
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But i've just seen too much of the goodness of god in the land of the living
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Of the goodness of god in the land of the living to not be forever overwhelmed
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In the land of the living to not be forever overwhelmed by just the greatness
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To not be forever overwhelmed by just the greatness of all that is my life
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By just the greatness of all that is my life and the life to come.
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Of all that is my life and the life to come. tammy: katherine,
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And the life to come. tammy: katherine, many of us that write books,
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Tammy: katherine, many of us that write books, i think we sit down
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Many of us that write books, i think we sit down because something is going on
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I think we sit down because something is going on in our life usually,
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Because something is going on in our life usually, there is something that
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In our life usually, there is something that god is doing in our lives
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There is something that god is doing in our lives that we are walking through,
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God is doing in our lives that we are walking through, that we want to write about
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That we are walking through, that we want to write about so that we can help
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That we want to write about so that we can help other people.
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So that we can help other people. so i pick up your book
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Other people. so i pick up your book and it says
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So i pick up your book and it says treasures in the dark .
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And it says treasures in the dark . i think, what is going on
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Treasures in the dark . i think, what is going on and what was going on
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I think, what is going on and what was going on in your life
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And what was going on in your life that made you write this book
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In your life that made you write this book at this moment
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That made you write this book at this moment finding treasures basically
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At this moment finding treasures basically in the dark of your life?
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Finding treasures basically in the dark of your life? katherine: since
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In the dark of your life? katherine: since the very earliest of days
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Katherine: since the very earliest of days after the stroke,
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The very earliest of days after the stroke, i have so clearly seen
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The passage from which
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The passage from which the title is based,
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The title is based, the lord said, "i will
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The lord said, "i will give you hidden treasure
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Give you hidden treasure in the darkness,
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So that you may know
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So that you may know that i am god,
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So that you may know that i am god, the god of israel,
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That i am god, the god of israel, the god who summons us
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The god of israel, the god who summons us by name."
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The god who summons us by name." so i've seen in my life
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By name." so i've seen in my life in all the darkness
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So i've seen in my life in all the darkness that if you have to go
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In all the darkness that if you have to go into the deep darkness
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That if you have to go into the deep darkness in your struggling story
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Into the deep darkness in your struggling story and we all do, we all go in
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In your struggling story and we all do, we all go in and out of darkness,
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And we all do, we all go in and out of darkness, you might as well
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And out of darkness, you might as well get the treasure.
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You might as well get the treasure. you might as well
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Get the treasure. you might as well get the riches
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You might as well get the riches that god has for you to get.
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Get the riches that god has for you to get. i like to say
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That god has for you to get. i like to say if you're going through hell,
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I like to say if you're going through hell, keep going
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If you're going through hell, keep going but go slow enough
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Keep going but go slow enough to get the treasure.
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But go slow enough to get the treasure. put it in your backpack,
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To get the treasure. put it in your backpack, and keep it for
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Put it in your backpack, and keep it for the rest of your life.
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And keep it for the rest of your life. let it inform how you live.
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The rest of your life. let it inform how you live. like, don't waste the pain.
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If you can't get the treasure?
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If you can't get the treasure? randy: i suspect it is
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Randy: i suspect it is a little easier to say that
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A little easier to say that on a day like today.
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Katherine: you're sweet.
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Katherine: you're sweet. i'm doing great.
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Katherine: you're sweet. i'm doing great. randy: what about on the days
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I'm doing great. randy: what about on the days when you're not doing
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Randy: what about on the days when you're not doing so great?
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When you're not doing so great? katherine: exactly.
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So great? katherine: exactly. can i say the same things?
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Katherine: exactly. can i say the same things? you need to marinate
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Can i say the same things? you need to marinate in the darkness
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You need to marinate in the darkness and take a minute
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In the darkness and take a minute to process what is happening
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And take a minute to process what is happening in your life.
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To process what is happening in your life. the bible calls us to lament,
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In your life. the bible calls us to lament, to recognize the process
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The bible calls us to lament, to recognize the process of taking our broken lives
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To recognize the process of taking our broken lives and beginning to put
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Of taking our broken lives and beginning to put the pieces back together
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And beginning to put the pieces back together and finding god in the midst
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The pieces back together and finding god in the midst of the darkness.
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And finding god in the midst of the darkness. so i'm a big fan of lament
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Of the darkness. so i'm a big fan of lament and letting that
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So i'm a big fan of lament and letting that do its work in you,
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And letting that do its work in you, and then
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Do its work in you, and then carrying that with you.
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And then carrying that with you. they say, you never move on
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Carrying that with you. they say, you never move on from what you've been through.
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They say, you never move on from what you've been through. that is not a thing.
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From what you've been through. that is not a thing. that you can, in time,
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That is not a thing. that you can, in time, move forward,
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That you can, in time, move forward, that's a thing.
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Move forward, that's a thing. but you carry it with you,
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That's a thing. but you carry it with you, you don't move on.
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But you carry it with you, you don't move on. so for me, i've learned
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You don't move on. so for me, i've learned to kind of live in a cycle
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So for me, i've learned to kind of live in a cycle of grief, lament,
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To kind of live in a cycle of grief, lament, hurt, sadness --
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Of grief, lament, hurt, sadness -- and also, hope and joy
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Hurt, sadness -- and also, hope and joy and trust and faith.
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And also, hope and joy and trust and faith. hope is not a fixed point
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And trust and faith. hope is not a fixed point you reach.
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Hope is not a fixed point you reach. that is not a thing.
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You reach. that is not a thing. hope is the living force
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That is not a thing. hope is the living force that propels us forward
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Hope is the living force that propels us forward into the ongoing hope
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That propels us forward into the ongoing hope with ongoing hurt happening
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Into the ongoing hope with ongoing hurt happening and ongoing hope happening,
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With ongoing hurt happening and ongoing hope happening, and ongoing healing.
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And ongoing hope happening, and ongoing healing. it is this cycle
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And ongoing healing. it is this cycle where we can find
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It is this cycle where we can find a place of hope
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Where we can find a place of hope even within the hurt
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A place of hope even within the hurt and begin to heal.
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Even within the hurt and begin to heal. this book is --
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And begin to heal. this book is -- the subtitle is
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This book is -- the subtitle is "90 reflections
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The subtitle is "90 reflections on finding bright hope
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The notion is
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The notion is i know too much to write
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I know too much to write a linear devotional book
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We're doing great here.
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We're doing great here. let's write a devotional
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We're doing great here. let's write a devotional about it.
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Let's write a devotional about it. this reflection guide,
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About it. this reflection guide, i call it, not a devotional,
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This reflection guide, i call it, not a devotional, has 30 entries
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I call it, not a devotional, has 30 entries for the hurting,
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Has 30 entries for the hurting, 30 for the healing,
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For the hurting, 30 for the healing, 30 for the hoping
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30 for the healing, 30 for the hoping and it can kind of be
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30 for the hoping and it can kind of be a choose-your-own-adventure
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And it can kind of be a choose-your-own-adventure thing.
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A choose-your-own-adventure thing. you're like maybe one day
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Thing. you're like maybe one day i'll be full of hurting.
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You're like maybe one day i'll be full of hurting. but maybe one day
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I'll be full of hurting. but maybe one day i'm healing.
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But maybe one day i'm healing. and i can sort of take things.
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I'm healing. and i can sort of take things. i'll stop talking now.
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And i can sort of take things. i'll stop talking now. sorry, guys!
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I'll stop talking now. sorry, guys! randy: no, i want you
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Sorry, guys! randy: no, i want you to talk more because
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Randy: no, i want you to talk more because i think a lot of people may
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To talk more because i think a lot of people may be in a situation like this
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I think a lot of people may be in a situation like this and they need to hear this.
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Be in a situation like this and they need to hear this. because when we have a loss,
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And they need to hear this. because when we have a loss, when we have pain,
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Because when we have a loss, when we have pain, tragedy, betrayal,
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When we have pain, tragedy, betrayal, all those negative things,
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Tragedy, betrayal, all those negative things, we have a tendency,
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All those negative things, we have a tendency, i think sometimes
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We have a tendency, i think sometimes especially in the church,
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I think sometimes especially in the church, to deny that
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Especially in the church, to deny that we're going through it.
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To deny that we're going through it. or we can kind of go
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We're going through it. or we can kind of go in the other direction
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Or we can kind of go in the other direction and resent
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In the other direction and resent that we're going through it
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And resent that we're going through it and blame others, blame god.
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That we're going through it and blame others, blame god. you're suggesting
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And blame others, blame god. you're suggesting that we face it, we admit it,
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You're suggesting that we face it, we admit it, and sort of openly.
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That we face it, we admit it, and sort of openly. like, let god in
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And sort of openly. like, let god in on the secret, right?
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Like, let god in on the secret, right? katherine: absolutely! yes!
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On the secret, right? katherine: absolutely! yes! randy: how does that
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Katherine: absolutely! yes! randy: how does that set the stage for healing?
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Randy: how does that set the stage for healing? katherine: oh, my goodness!
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Set the stage for healing? katherine: oh, my goodness! i'm overcome
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Katherine: oh, my goodness! i'm overcome that you asked me this
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I'm overcome that you asked me this because i read something
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That you asked me this because i read something the other day that said
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Because i read something the other day that said it isn't about letting go.
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The other day that said it isn't about letting go. that's not a thing.
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It isn't about letting go. that's not a thing. it is about letting in.
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That's not a thing. it is about letting in. letting in the sorrow,
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It is about letting in. letting in the sorrow, letting in all of the hardship
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Letting in the sorrow, letting in all of the hardship so you can process it
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Letting in all of the hardship so you can process it and appropriately grieve
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So you can process it and appropriately grieve the losses.
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And appropriately grieve the losses. where was that?
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The losses. where was that? it was so good.
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Where was that? it was so good. it was by katherine wolf.
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It was so good. it was by katherine wolf. just kidding!
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It was by katherine wolf. just kidding! but i would love
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Just kidding! but i would love to take credit for it
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But i would love to take credit for it but letting go
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To take credit for it but letting go isn't real either
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But letting go isn't real either any more than moving on is.
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Isn't real either any more than moving on is. those aren't real.
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Any more than moving on is. those aren't real. it is about processing
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Those aren't real. it is about processing and then you can move forward.
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It is about processing and then you can move forward. in order to not stay there,
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And then you can move forward. in order to not stay there, you must start there.
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In order to not stay there, you must start there. and that's, i think,
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You must start there. and that's, i think, the key, to begin to feel.
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And that's, i think, the key, to begin to feel. and wrestle god,
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The key, to begin to feel. and wrestle god, did you make a mistake
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And wrestle god, did you make a mistake with my life
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Did you make a mistake with my life where you turned around
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With my life where you turned around and missed that
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Where you turned around and missed that my life has blown up,
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And missed that my life has blown up, and all the specifics
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My life has blown up, and all the specifics are in this story that
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And all the specifics are in this story that i never wanted, including
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Are in this story that i never wanted, including never driving a car again,
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I never wanted, including never driving a car again, never walking on my own,
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Never driving a car again, never walking on my own, living with a paralyzed face,
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Never walking on my own, living with a paralyzed face, and 10,000 other things?
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Living with a paralyzed face, and 10,000 other things? and yet, lord,
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And 10,000 other things? and yet, lord, could i begin to identify that
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And yet, lord, could i begin to identify that maybe you've given me this?
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Could i begin to identify that maybe you've given me this? maybe somehow you've chosen me
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Maybe you've given me this? maybe somehow you've chosen me for this life?
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Maybe somehow you've chosen me for this life? can i redefine
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For this life? can i redefine and reframe everything to
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Can i redefine and reframe everything to an upside-down kingdom lens?
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And reframe everything to an upside-down kingdom lens? that is our opportunity.
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How did you --
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And your life speaks
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And your life speaks for itself.
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And your life speaks for itself. you are an inspiration
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For itself. you are an inspiration to so many people.
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You are an inspiration to so many people. can i just say that i hate
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To so many people. can i just say that i hate that you've had to suffer
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Can i just say that i hate that you've had to suffer so much?
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That you've had to suffer so much? i wish life were different
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So much? i wish life were different for you.
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I wish life were different for you. i wish life were different
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For you. i wish life were different for me.
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I wish life were different for me. i wish life were different
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For me. i wish life were different for the person watching today
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I wish life were different for the person watching today that is just overwhelmed
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For the person watching today that is just overwhelmed and struggling
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That is just overwhelmed and struggling and trying to find treasures
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And struggling and trying to find treasures in your own dark season.
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And trying to find treasures in your own dark season. but katherine,
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In your own dark season. but katherine, i wonder like --
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But katherine, i wonder like -- the questions that we ask
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I wonder like -- the questions that we ask like, the what-ifs.
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The questions that we ask like, the what-ifs. you talk about that
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Like, the what-ifs. you talk about that and it means a lot to me
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You talk about that and it means a lot to me because i believe you.
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And it means a lot to me because i believe you. in order for us
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Because i believe you. in order for us to find healing,
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In order for us to find healing, we've got to start first --
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To find healing, we've got to start first -- i had to set healing aside
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We've got to start first -- i had to set healing aside for a second.
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I had to set healing aside for a second. that will come.
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For a second. that will come. i know that it is there.
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That will come. i know that it is there. i believe that it is there
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I know that it is there. i believe that it is there but i've got to process
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I believe that it is there but i've got to process what i've lost.
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But i've got to process what i've lost. i've got to process the grief.
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What i've lost. i've got to process the grief. i've got to process
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I've got to process the grief. i've got to process all the unknowns.
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I've got to process all the unknowns. i've got to go through that.
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All the unknowns. i've got to go through that. and as randy said,
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I've got to go through that. and as randy said, allow me to go through this
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And as randy said, allow me to go through this with my community,
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Allow me to go through this with my community, with my family,
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With my community, with my family, with counseling,
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With my family, with counseling, through pastors,
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With counseling, through pastors, whatever i need,
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Through pastors, whatever i need, i've got to find a way
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Whatever i need, i've got to find a way to navigate through this.
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I've got to find a way to navigate through this. healing is waiting for me
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To navigate through this. healing is waiting for me on the other side.
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Healing is waiting for me on the other side. but even through that journey
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On the other side. but even through that journey as we go through that,
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But even through that journey as we go through that, trying to process
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As we go through that, trying to process through that,
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Trying to process through that, i think all of us have stopped
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Through that, i think all of us have stopped and have said before,
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I think all of us have stopped and have said before, what if?
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And have said before, what if? what if this
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What if? what if this could have been different?
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What if this could have been different? why did god allow this
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Could have been different? why did god allow this to happen in my life?
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Katherine: oh gosh!
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Katherine: oh gosh! you have no idea
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You have no idea how much that has haunted me.
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How much that has haunted me. i have a pinnacle
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Started sharing recently.
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Started sharing recently. it's in this new book.
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Started sharing recently. it's in this new book. i haven't talked
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It's in this new book. i haven't talked about it before
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I haven't talked about it before because i never wanted
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About it before because i never wanted to shame the doctors
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Because i never wanted to shame the doctors who might read this book
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To shame the doctors who might read this book and know this story.
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Who might read this book and know this story. but for some reason,
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And know this story. but for some reason, i'm like,
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But for some reason, i'm like, nobody knows what hospital,
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I'm like, nobody knows what hospital, nobody knows the specifics
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Nobody knows what hospital, nobody knows the specifics but when i was 19 years old
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Nobody knows the specifics but when i was 19 years old i went to the doctor because
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But when i was 19 years old i went to the doctor because i started getting dizzy
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I went to the doctor because i started getting dizzy and they diagnosed me
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I started getting dizzy and they diagnosed me incorrectly.
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And they diagnosed me incorrectly. without making eye contact
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Incorrectly. without making eye contact and sliding a prescription
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Without making eye contact and sliding a prescription across the table to me
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And sliding a prescription across the table to me with vertigo medication.
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Across the table to me with vertigo medication. seven years later
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With vertigo medication. seven years later when my brain exploded,
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Seven years later when my brain exploded, they knew it wasn't that.
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When my brain exploded, they knew it wasn't that. they knew that
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They knew it wasn't that. they knew that had i been given an mri
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They knew that had i been given an mri as a 19-year-old,
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Had i been given an mri as a 19-year-old, they would have seen the mass
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As a 19-year-old, they would have seen the mass on my brain, and that
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They would have seen the mass on my brain, and that it would need to be removed.
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On my brain, and that it would need to be removed. and then a whole other set
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It would need to be removed. and then a whole other set of what-ifs comes into play.
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And then a whole other set of what-ifs comes into play. would i have operated?
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Of what-ifs comes into play. would i have operated? what if
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Would i have operated? what if i hadn't had it removed
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What if i hadn't had it removed and moved forward in life
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I hadn't had it removed and moved forward in life with this avm?
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And moved forward in life with this avm? would i have married?
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With this avm? would i have married? would i have had a baby?
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Would i have married? would i have had a baby? what if? what if? what if?
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Would i have had a baby? what if? what if? what if? we all play this terrible game
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What if? what if? what if? we all play this terrible game of the what-ifs in life.
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We all play this terrible game of the what-ifs in life. i think all of our questions
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Of the what-ifs in life. i think all of our questions must be in our tragedy.
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I think all of our questions must be in our tragedy. it is what if god spared me
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Must be in our tragedy. it is what if god spared me from a perfect life?
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It is what if god spared me from a perfect life? what if god spared me
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From a perfect life? what if god spared me from having no knowledge
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What if god spared me from having no knowledge of what it means to suffer
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From having no knowledge of what it means to suffer this way while on earth?
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Of what it means to suffer this way while on earth? that's a pretty crazy
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This way while on earth? that's a pretty crazy provocative what-if question.
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That's a pretty crazy provocative what-if question. but i think it bears asking.
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Provocative what-if question. but i think it bears asking. what if all of this
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But i think it bears asking. what if all of this and none of this
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What if all of this and none of this would have happened?
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And none of this would have happened? it is crazy.
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After especially
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After especially the first stroke,
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The first stroke, at in point of the things
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At in point of the things you've gone through,
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You've gone through, do you ever ask
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Katherine,
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Katherine, to have a good life?
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Katherine, to have a good life? katherine: oh, gosh, yes!
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To have a good life? katherine: oh, gosh, yes! you know what's so crazy?
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Katherine: oh, gosh, yes! you know what's so crazy? i've kind of done a deep dive
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You know what's so crazy? i've kind of done a deep dive into the whole notion
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I've kind of done a deep dive into the whole notion of the good life.
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Into the whole notion of the good life. first of all, the good life .
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Of the good life. first of all, the good life . for instance, the word good
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First of all, the good life . for instance, the word good and the notion of psalm 84:11,
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For instance, the word good and the notion of psalm 84:11, like "no good thing
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And the notion of psalm 84:11, like "no good thing does he withhold from those
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Like "no good thing does he withhold from those walking uprightly with him."
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Does he withhold from those walking uprightly with him." how can that be true
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Walking uprightly with him." how can that be true when our lives
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How can that be true when our lives have been ravaged?
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When our lives have been ravaged? how can good things
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Have been ravaged? how can good things only be here?
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How can good things only be here? god withholds no good thing.
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Only be here? god withholds no good thing. well, perhaps it is because,
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God withholds no good thing. well, perhaps it is because, as a theologian
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Well, perhaps it is because, as a theologian from the 1600s,
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As a theologian from the 1600s, sir richard baker says,
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From the 1600s, sir richard baker says, it is because the good things
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Sir richard baker says, it is because the good things are not things at all.
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Are peace of conscience,
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Are peace of conscience, joy in the holy spirit,
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Joy in the holy spirit, the fruition of his presence
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The fruition of his presence in this life,
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In this life, and the assurance of his face
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These things are the truly
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These things are the truly good things of god
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These things are the truly good things of god that can never be taken,
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Good things of god that can never be taken, and they are nothing
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That can never be taken, and they are nothing the physical world
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And they are nothing the physical world could ever touch.
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The physical world could ever touch. and that is a word for your
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Could ever touch. and that is a word for your listeners going
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And that is a word for your listeners going through the ringer.
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Listeners going through the ringer. like good things are not
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Through the ringer. like good things are not absent from you, friends.
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Like good things are not absent from you, friends. they are in your story
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Absent from you, friends. they are in your story because they can never
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They are in your story because they can never be taken from you.
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Because they can never be taken from you. they are inside of you
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Be taken from you. they are inside of you when you know jesus.
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They are inside of you when you know jesus. but the other answer
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When you know jesus. but the other answer to your question
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But the other answer to your question that is so important to say
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To your question that is so important to say is that pre-stroke
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That is so important to say is that pre-stroke i thought i had the good life .
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Is that pre-stroke i thought i had the good life . even if i never thought that
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I thought i had the good life . even if i never thought that that way or articulated it
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Even if i never thought that that way or articulated it that way,
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That way or articulated it that way, i was living the hashtag
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That way, i was living the hashtag blessed life, pre-stroke.
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I was living the hashtag blessed life, pre-stroke. wasn't i?
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Blessed life, pre-stroke. wasn't i? and yet, so clearly we see
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Wasn't i? and yet, so clearly we see in the beatitudes
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And yet, so clearly we see in the beatitudes and throughout the bible,
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In the beatitudes and throughout the bible, the blessed life is the life
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And throughout the bible, the blessed life is the life poor in spirit.
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Blessed are the meek.
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Blessed are the meek. how do we make sense of that
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How do we make sense of that in the context of the charmed
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In the context of the charmed before the stroke life?
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With the gospel?
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With the gospel? so what is the good life ?
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With the gospel? so what is the good life ? well, pretty clearly
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So what is the good life ? well, pretty clearly our faith tells us
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Well, pretty clearly our faith tells us it is not what we think it is
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Our faith tells us it is not what we think it is in 2024 in our modern world.
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It is not what we think it is in 2024 in our modern world. tammy: are you living
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In 2024 in our modern world. tammy: are you living the good life?
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Tammy: are you living the good life? katherine: absolutely!
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The good life? katherine: absolutely! the short answer
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Katherine: absolutely! the short answer is absolutely!
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The short answer is absolutely! i'm living the dream.
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Is absolutely! i'm living the dream. and guess what?
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I'm living the dream. and guess what? i get to decide
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And guess what? i get to decide how i feel about my story
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I get to decide how i feel about my story and nobody else does.
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How i feel about my story and nobody else does. it is so powerful.
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And nobody else does. it is so powerful. we can not control
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It is so powerful. we can not control what happens to us in life.
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We can not control what happens to us in life. control is an illusion.
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What happens to us in life. control is an illusion. but what we can control
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Control is an illusion. but what we can control completely and totally is
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But what we can control completely and totally is how we respond
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Completely and totally is how we respond to what has happened.
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How we respond to what has happened. how we move forward,
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To what has happened. how we move forward, how we narrate it
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How we move forward, how we narrate it to our children,
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How we narrate it to our children, how we process it,
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To our children, how we process it, and see the goodness of god
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How we process it, and see the goodness of god in the story.
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And see the goodness of god in the story. randy: one thing
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In the story. randy: one thing that your life demonstrates
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Randy: one thing that your life demonstrates is the choice
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That your life demonstrates is the choice that we all have,
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Is the choice that we all have, but we see clearly with you,
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That we all have, but we see clearly with you, we can focus
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But we see clearly with you, we can focus on what we can't do
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We can focus on what we can't do or we can focus
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On what we can't do or we can focus on what we can do.
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Or we can focus on what we can do. what difference
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On what we can do. what difference has it made for you
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What difference has it made for you to focus more
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Has it made for you to focus more on what you can do
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To focus more on what you can do than on the things you can't?
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On what you can do than on the things you can't? katherine: one hundred
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Than on the things you can't? katherine: one hundred percent.
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Katherine: one hundred percent. i'm not crying
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Percent. i'm not crying about what i can't do.
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I'm not crying about what i can't do. i can't do a whole lot.
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About what i can't do. i can't do a whole lot. i have a hand
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I can't do a whole lot. i have a hand that doesn't work.
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I have a hand that doesn't work. i mean i can't drive a car.
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That doesn't work. i mean i can't drive a car. i'm deaf in one ear.
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I mean i can't drive a car. i'm deaf in one ear. i have a lot i can't do.
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I'm deaf in one ear. i have a lot i can't do. but the list is way too long
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I have a lot i can't do. but the list is way too long of all the amazing things
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But the list is way too long of all the amazing things that i can do.
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Of all the amazing things that i can do. and thank you, lord,
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That i can do. and thank you, lord, i'm in touch with the fact
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And thank you, lord, i'm in touch with the fact that it is not about
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I'm in touch with the fact that it is not about my capabilities.
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That it is not about my capabilities. it is not about what i can do
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My capabilities. it is not about what i can do that ultimately matters,
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It is not about what i can do that ultimately matters, it is who i am.
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That ultimately matters, it is who i am. actually,
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It is who i am. actually, to my precious children,
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Actually, to my precious children, that is what matters.
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To my precious children, that is what matters. mothering is not
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That is what matters. mothering is not with the hands
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Mothering is not with the hands but with the heart.
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With the hands but with the heart. the things that my kids
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But with the heart. the things that my kids and my people,
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The things that my kids and my people, my family friends are getting
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And my people, my family friends are getting from who i am
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My family friends are getting from who i am is the glorious
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From who i am is the glorious breathtaking inheritance
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Is the glorious breathtaking inheritance i'm giving to my kids
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Breathtaking inheritance i'm giving to my kids that has nothing to do
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I'm giving to my kids that has nothing to do with my abilities at all.
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That has nothing to do with my abilities at all. tammy: i think, also,
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With my abilities at all. tammy: i think, also, a follow-up question to that
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That i've had to ask myself
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That i've had to ask myself as well, and i'm sure,
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That i've had to ask myself as well, and i'm sure, katherine, you have as well,
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As well, and i'm sure, katherine, you have as well, and maybe any of us
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Katherine, you have as well, and maybe any of us that can be in those places
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And maybe any of us that can be in those places of just like suffering,
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And just
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And just what do i do with this?
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And just what do i do with this? i think i've had to ask
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What do i do with this? i think i've had to ask myself many times also,
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I think i've had to ask myself many times also, what do i have rather than
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Myself many times also, what do i have rather than what don't i have?
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What do i have rather than what don't i have? and even like your life,
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What don't i have? and even like your life, katherine, you could probably
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And even like your life, katherine, you could probably list all the things
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Katherine, you could probably list all the things that you don't have
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List all the things that you don't have but if you focus on that,
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That you don't have but if you focus on that, we will miss right now
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But if you focus on that, we will miss right now in this moment
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We will miss right now in this moment what you do have in your life.
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In this moment what you do have in your life. and to focus on that.
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What you do have in your life. and to focus on that. god has given you this life.
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And to focus on that. god has given you this life. you have your children,
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God has given you this life. you have your children, you get to mother them
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You have your children, you get to mother them and love them.
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You get to mother them and love them. they get to have their mama.
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And love them. they get to have their mama. you're married,
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They get to have their mama. you're married, you get to have your husband.
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You're married, you get to have your husband. he gets to have you.
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You get to have your husband. he gets to have you. there is so much
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He gets to have you. there is so much that you've lost
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There is so much that you've lost but there is so much
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That you've lost but there is so much that you still have.
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But there is so much that you still have. so our focus
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That you still have. so our focus should be on that, otherwise,
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So our focus should be on that, otherwise, we would be so distracted
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Should be on that, otherwise, we would be so distracted with the disappointments
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We would be so distracted with the disappointments and the expectations
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With the disappointments and the expectations that are not met in our life
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And the expectations that are not met in our life that we will miss out
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That are not met in our life that we will miss out on all the great things
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That we will miss out on all the great things that god has for us
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On all the great things that god has for us right now.
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That god has for us right now. katherine: absolutely!
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Right now. katherine: absolutely! i like to say
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Katherine: absolutely! i like to say that what we must do
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I like to say that what we must do is expect more of god
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That what we must do is expect more of god and less of this world.
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Is expect more of god and less of this world. that's really
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And less of this world. that's really where the joy is.
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That's really where the joy is. i'm not living
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Where the joy is. i'm not living for this world anyway
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I'm not living for this world anyway so i'm going to expect
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For this world anyway so i'm going to expect more of god
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So i'm going to expect more of god and let him overwhelm me.
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More of god and let him overwhelm me. and that's how --
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And let him overwhelm me. and that's how -- when we do the opposite
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And that's how -- when we do the opposite and we expect more
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When we do the opposite and we expect more of this world
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And we expect more of this world and less of god
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Of this world and less of god we are crushed.
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And less of god we are crushed. the space between
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But when i do this,
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But when i do this, it is going awesome.
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It is going awesome. psalm 16:6 is true,
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Psalm 16:6 is true, "the boundaries have fallen
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"the boundaries have fallen in pleasant places."
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In pleasant places." this right here
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Randy: katherine
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Randy: katherine truly is a treasure
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Listen, i don't know
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Listen, i don't know what you're going through,
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What you're going through, but if you want someone
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But if you want someone to pray with you,
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To pray with you, if you'll pick up that phone,
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If you'll pick up that phone, we've got someone available
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We've got someone available all the time
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All the time that will encourage you,
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That will encourage you, that will pray with you,
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That will pray with you, that will help you find
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That will help you find that treasure
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That treasure in your darkness.
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In your darkness. so call that number right now.
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So call that number right now. we do --
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We do -- we do what we do to bless you
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We do what we do to bless you and we also ask you
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And we also ask you to bless others.
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To bless others. we can do both today.
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We can do both today. there are some people
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There are some people in great need.
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In great need. some people are
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Some people are in some serious darkness
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In some serious darkness and we can reach out
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And we can reach out and be that treasure to them.
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In this opportunity,
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In this opportunity, if you request
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In this opportunity, if you request katherine's book,
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If you request katherine's book, treasure in the dark ,
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Katherine's book, treasure in the dark , we would love
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Treasure in the dark , we would love to send it to you
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We would love to send it to you to encourage you.
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To send it to you to encourage you. most importantly,
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To encourage you. most importantly, we want you to be a part
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Of god's work in the lives
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Of god's work in the lives of some desperate people.
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It is hard
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To comprehend sometimes
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The way many people
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In this world have to live.
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Children are literally
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Dying from a lack of
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Clean drinking water.
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Well, the answer is
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Water for life.
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It's drinking water
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That is not contaminated
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By going down
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Into god's earth
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And pulling up
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What he has given
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And blessing people with it.
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Here's the breakdown,
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An average well costs $4800.
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That's based on the 350 wells
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We drill across 20 nations.
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If you can provide one
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You can prevent others
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From dying,
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Many others in fact.
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On average, a well will serve
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About a thousand people
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Which is phenomenal.
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That is a thousand stories
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That we won't have
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To tell of loss.
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Many of you can give $144
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That will provide
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Clean drinking water
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For 30 people
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For basically a lifetime,
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On average, 70 years.
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Maybe you can give $48.
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It may not sound like a lot
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But it is huge because $48
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Will give clean drinking water
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To ten people.
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Will you go online,
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Go to the phone,
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Make the best gift you can?
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Let's tell a story of life --
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No more stories of death.
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Every day, thousands of lives are lost
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To waterborne disease,
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And nearly half of those are children
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Under the age of five.
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Through mission: water for life
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You can give mothers hope and children a future
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As we provide clean, life-giving water
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For thousands of children and their families
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Before it's too late.
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With your gift today, you can help drill
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And establish 350 water wells this year.
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Your gift of $24
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Will help provide clean water for five children.
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A gift of $48 will help provide for ten.
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And $144 will help provide
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Life-giving water for 30 people
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For a lifetime.
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With a gift of any amount,
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We'll send you dr. don colbert's new book
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Spiritual health zone.
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Discover the key to living in divine health
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As you find a roadmap
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To adding joy, peace, and years to your life.
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With your gift of $100 or more,
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You may request the
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"he restores my soul" candle set.
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This decorative candle and match set
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Will inspire you to remember
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The restoring presence of jesus,
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The true light of the world.
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Finally, please consider a gift of $1200
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To help provide water for 250 people
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Or a gift of $4800
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To help sponsor a complete well,
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And request our new bronze sculpture,
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"lion of judah"
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Inspired by revelation 5:5.
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Please call, write, or make your gift online today!
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Randy: you really
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Randy: you really can make a difference.
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Randy: you really can make a difference. you can make such an impact
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Can make a difference. you can make such an impact in someone's life.
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You can make such an impact in someone's life. you can be the treasure
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In someone's life. you can be the treasure in their dark, to borrow
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You can be the treasure in their dark, to borrow the title of katherine's book.
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In their dark, to borrow the title of katherine's book. if you request this today
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The title of katherine's book. if you request this today when you go online,
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If you request this today when you go online, go to the phone, and make
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When you go online, go to the phone, and make the best gift you can,
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Go to the phone, and make the best gift you can, we would love
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The best gift you can, we would love to send it to you.
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We would love to send it to you. what a blessing, tammy.
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To send it to you. what a blessing, tammy. tammy: it is a total blessing.
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What a blessing, tammy. tammy: it is a total blessing. i believe this book will help
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Tammy: it is a total blessing. i believe this book will help a lot of people, randy.
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I believe this book will help a lot of people, randy. not just through katherine
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A lot of people, randy. not just through katherine but the lord will help you
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Not just through katherine but the lord will help you uncover some great treasures
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But the lord will help you uncover some great treasures in your life where you feel
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Uncover some great treasures in your life where you feel so dark and you don't know
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In your life where you feel so dark and you don't know how to get out.
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So dark and you don't know how to get out. let us help you.
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How to get out. let us help you. let the lord help you
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Let us help you. let the lord help you with that.
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Let the lord help you with that. katherine, i love you.
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With that. katherine, i love you. i adore you.
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Katherine, i love you. i adore you. i'm standing with you,
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I adore you. i'm standing with you, my sister in christ.
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I'm standing with you, my sister in christ. thank you so much
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My sister in christ. thank you so much for being here today
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Thank you so much for being here today and for pouring your life out
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For being here today and for pouring your life out into so many people.
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And for pouring your life out into so many people. just so love you.
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Into so many people. just so love you. katherine: what a blessing.
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Just so love you. katherine: what a blessing. i'm so honored to be here.
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Katherine: what a blessing. i'm so honored to be here. thank you for having me.
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I'm so honored to be here. thank you for having me. tammy: we're so glad.
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Thank you for having me. tammy: we're so glad. thank you for being with us.
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Tammy: we're so glad. thank you for being with us. we'll see you next time
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Thank you for being with us. we'll see you next time on life today .
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♪ who am i that the highest king ♪
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♪ would welcome me ♪
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♪ i was lost but you brought me in ♪
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♪ oh, his love for me ♪
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♪ oh, his love for me ♪
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♪ who the son sets free ♪
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♪ oh, is free indeed ♪
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♪ i'm a child of god yes, i am ♪
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♪ free at last he has welcomed me ♪
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♪ his grace runs deep ♪
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♪ while i was a slave to sin ♪
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♪ jesus died for me ♪
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♪ yes, he died for me ♪
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♪ who the son sets free ♪
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♪ oh, is free indeed ♪
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♪ i'm a child of god yes, i am ♪
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♪ in my father's house there's a place for me ♪
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♪ i'm a child of god yes, i am ♪
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♪ i am chosen not forsaken ♪
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♪ i am who you say i am ♪
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♪ you are for me not against me ♪
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♪ i am who you say i am ♪
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♪ i am chosen not forsaken ♪
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♪ i am who you say i am ♪
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♪ you are for me not against me ♪
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♪ i am who you say i am ♪
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♪ i am who you say i am ♪
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♪ who the son sets free ♪
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♪ oh, is free indeed ♪
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♪ i'm a child of god yes, i am ♪
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♪ in my father's house there's a place for me ♪
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♪ i'm a child of god yes, i am ♪
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Katherine Wolf - Defeating Darkness

January 30, 2025 | S25:E29

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