John Bradshaw - Clearing The Fog - Understanding Depression

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It Is Written with John Bradshaw | John Bradshaw - Clearing The Fog - Understanding Depression | January 12, 2025

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>>john bradshaw: this is "it is written."
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I'm john bradshaw. thanks for joining me.
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For decades and decades, depression and anxiety
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Have presented the united states and other first-world countries
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Around the world with a major health care crisis.
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Dr. neil nedley spoke with me about this subject
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About 10 years ago.
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He's the president of nedley health and for 25 years
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Has been successfully treating people battling all forms
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Of depression and anxiety.
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And we're catching up again today.
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Dr. nedley, thanks for being here with me.
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>>dr. neil nedley: great to be back with you, john.
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>>john: you talk about depression and how
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To successfully treat depression through lifestyle.
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Why would we talk about this when there are already
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Myriad treatments for depression?
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Why aren't you saying there's an array of drugs available
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On the market, grab one, and off you go?
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Why are you not saying that?
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>>dr. nedley: well, because those drugs have been tested
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And tried, and all sorts of studies have been done on them.
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They can help certain patients, but their help is limited,
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And they actually don't decrease suicide risk,
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And they don't improve functioning that much.
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Uh, i mean, over placebo, one of the drugs improves function
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By about 6 percent, but most of them don't improve function.
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And depression is a disease that disables.
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It causes a lot of dysfunction, and of course,
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It's also one of the leading causes of death now
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With suicide rates being so high.
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And so, why would we recommend that they take something
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That isn't going to improve in those parameters?
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And so, it's not that we're against medicine.
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We have patients come to our program with medication.
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We'll take them with or without,
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And we'll keep them on their medicine until they're better
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And don't need them, but medications alone
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Are not the answer for depression or anxiety.
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>>john: okay. be really easy for somebody to say,
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"well, dr. nedley has a vested interest,"
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Or, "he's got an ax to grind." i want to ask you, do you?
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And i want to ask you, how much of what you're sharing with me
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Is opinion versus hard science?
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>>dr. nedley: it's hard science.
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Even the top pharmaceutical researchers in the world
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Will tell you that drugs have their limitations
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And that they're not the answer.
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Uh, consensus mental health organizations tell us
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That drugs are not the answer to this problem.
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Once again, they can help in certain situations,
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But they're not the answer.
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We have to go beyond drugs if we're going to eradicate
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And produce the great results that can be obtained
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For depressed and anxious people.
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>>john: in a moment, not right now,
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In a moment i'm going to ask you what the answer is.
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Here's my first question going down that road:
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Is there an answer for depression and anxiety?
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>>dr. nedley: absolutely, there's an answer.
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>>john: you said that unequivocally.
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>>dr. nedley: unequivocally, yes. and we published on it.
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Our case reports are, are very well obtained,
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And the typical patient that we see with depression and anxiety,
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Severe, actually, or maybe even extreme,
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Will leave our program in 10 days
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With no depression and anxiety.
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And their emotional intelligence will go up.
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Now, it requires their cooperation.
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We have to do a number of different things
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To produce this dramatic change in their brain chemistry
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And their change in their thought pattern,
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But it's well worth the effort.
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>>john: the reason i think it's important we speak about this
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From a, a faith-based point of view is that the bible speaks
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Again and again and again about health,
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And mental health is supremely important.
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Look, just to digress for a brief moment,
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I think it's important we talk about this
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Because...too few people speak about mental health.
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Like it or not, there's still a stigma about mental health
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Where someone who has a, an ingrown toenail
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Is happy to tell his friend he had surgery,
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But somebody with a mental health issue will keep it
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To himself or herself,
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Maybe to their detriment or even their demise.
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>>dr. nedley: exactly.
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>>john: and, and another reason we want to talk about this
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Is because looking at it from a biblical point of view,
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We see that ultimately, ultimately this thing
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Between good and evil is a battle for the mind.
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>>dr. nedley: mm-hmm.
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>>john: so, in one place the bible says,
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"we have the mind of christ." we want that as far as possible.
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>>dr. nedley: mm-hmm. >>john: okay.
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Let's define some things here. what's depression?
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I know you talk about that ad infinitum,
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But briefly, what's depression?
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And help me understand the difference between severe
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And, and, and extreme and these various forms.
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>>dr. nedley: yes. so, a major depression is actually
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A constellation of symptoms. and i use the psychiatric bible;
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The diagnostic statistical manual gives us
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Nine hallmark symptoms of depression.
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You don't have to have all nine of them,
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But you have to have five of those nine.
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But two of the classic are deep sadness--
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Which you may not even have and still have depression--
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And apathy. this is where you wake up in the morning
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And you're not excited about the day.
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You get up out of duty
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But not because you're interested in the day.
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And that will happen not just once in a while,
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But for a depressed person it'll be there for, you know,
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At least two weeks.
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In addition to that, there'll be energy issues.
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There'll be sleep issues, either wanting to sleep
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All the time or not being able to sleep,
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And waking up too early and not being able to go back to sleep.
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Then there's more irritability than there used to be.
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And then focus and concentration issues
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Can also be a major problem, where you're reading something
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That's interesting to you, you get to the bottom of the page,
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And you forget what was at the top of the page.
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And you have to go back and read it again,
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And it might even happen again.
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And that can be a sign of both anxiety and depression.
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>>john: but you're not saying one of those means
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You have depression. you're saying there's nine points;
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If you have five, that qualifies you.
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>>dr. nedley: correct. >>john: so i don't want anyone
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To think because they can't focus on a page, that means
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Too much, but it might. >>dr. nedley: it might.
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>>john: yeah. >>dr. nedley: it might, yeah.
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>>john: taken together with other--
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>>dr. nedley: yeah. >>john: ...things.
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We're going to get to the cure, if you like,
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The treatment for depression
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In a moment, but i wanna-- >>dr. nedley: sure.
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>>john: ...ask you this. see, we, we, we've spoken
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About this before. ten years ago we talked about this.
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>>dr. nedley: right.
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>>john: and society has known for decades
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We have a great problem in this area.
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What's happened in the last 10 years
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In terms of depression and anxiety?
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>>dr. nedley: the rates have gone up astronomically
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In the last 10 years.
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And, you know, what has also shifted is depression used to be
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The older you get, the more likely you're going to get it.
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And now we're seeing this big peak among young people,
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Adolescents, uh, teenagers, even pre-teenagers,
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And particularly those in their 20s--
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Off the charts in regards to depression and anxiety levels.
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And that's changed over the last 10 years.
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>>john: and why is that?
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>>dr. nedley: the reason is actually the smartphone usage.
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Uh, it wasn't till about 10 or 11 years ago
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That about half of americans owned a smartphone.
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And now that smartphone is actually able to distract them
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Very easily. and when we are driven to distraction,
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It actually decreases an area of our frontal lobe
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That is precisely the area that's needed
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For managing distressing emotions.
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And so, it's not the smartphone itself, per se,
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But the normal use of the smartphone
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Where we're allowing ourself to get distracted by snapchats,
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Texts, push notifications, and even when we get on there
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To do something, we forget why we got on there to do something,
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And we immediately see a text or an email or things like that,
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And that division of attention actually causes
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Biochemical, uh, consequences in the brain,
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And those biochemical consequences increase
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The rates of depression and anxiety.
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>>john: so, in recent years it has become much worse.
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In recent years it's affecting far greater numbers
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Of younger people. okay.
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We're going to talk about what a person can do
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About depression and anxiety.
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My guest is dr. neil nedley, president of nedley health.
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In just a moment we will talk
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About what a person can actually do.
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Dr. nedley said a moment ago
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There is successful treatment for depression and anxiety.
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We'll find out what that is straight ahead.
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>>john bradshaw: welcome back to "it is written."
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Thanks so much for joining me. i'm john bradshaw.
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With me, my guest is dr. neil nedley,
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The president of nedley health.
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Dr. nedley, you--we're about to start talking about
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Successful treatment for depression.
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Give us a little background here.
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I said for a quarter of a century now
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You've been successfully treating patients.
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>>dr. neil nedley: correct. >>john: uh, give me a,
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Just a very quick overview.
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What do you see walk in the door? what do you see walk out?
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Once we help people understand what the, the reality is
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Of successful treatment, then we'll talk about the treatment.
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>>dr. nedley: okay. so, what we see typically walk in the door
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Is someone who is severely depressed
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And also thinking about ending their life.
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At least most of them now that see us
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Think that they would be better off dead.
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And they're actually convinced of that, uh,
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When they come to the program.
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It's affected their family life. it's affected their work life.
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It's affected their feelings about themselves.
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Uh, and it has also, uh, caused them to even think
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That they're worthless or that they're of no value.
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And so, uh, that is more of the typical.
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Of course, there can be a lot of varieties, um, concerning that.
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Uh, but on top of it, they'll also have anxiety.
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They'll have social anxiety,
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Which is more of our typical patient now.
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Uh, they don't really want to interact with people--
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Fear of embarrassment,
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Uh, fear of being exposed in some way, shape, or form,
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Fear of being judged.
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And so, uh, this is our, um, our typical patient
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That comes in. and of course, they're pretty reticent because
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They're in a new setting, and this has been, you know,
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A big, big challenge for them to even come to the program.
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And on day three, they're not sure
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That they've actually made the right decision
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Because it takes time for the therapies
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To actually start changing the brain.
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By day four, they're actually starting to feel better.
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By day seven, it's pretty amazing the difference.
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And by day 10, when they're walking out the door, they say,
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"i don't even really realize who that person was.
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I'm so different now."
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They are motivated. they're self-motivated.
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They're actually sleeping better.
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They're able to interact with people that they don't know,
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Uh, and not have that anxiety and fear of judgment.
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They realize that they're a valuable human being,
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And they realize that they have much that they can give
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To their families and, and their work and the world around them.
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And so, depression scale goes from severe, on average,
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To no depression when they're leaving.
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That doesn't mean it's solved.
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They still have to continue to do the things
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That made them better in the program,
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And then they'll even get better yet, uh, two weeks
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After they're in their home environment.
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Some of them get fearful because they say, "i got better here.
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"now i'm going home, where i was really bad,
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And i'm getting backed into the same place."
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But actually, as they utilize the tools that we've given them,
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They'll actually feel better two weeks after being home
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Than the day they left the program.
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>>john: see, this sounds, this sounds miraculous,
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[dr. nedley chuckles] like, like people are being reborn.
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But this is what god wants for a person's life.
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And i, i think, as we talk about depression,
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It's really important to point out that depression
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Isn't something that the average person can just get over--
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"why don't you pull yourself together?"
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>>dr. nedley: right.
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>>john: this is-- depression's a monster.
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And it absolutely disables people. okay.
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Let's talk about the successful treatment. what works?
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And i want you to share with me what works scientifically--
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>>dr. nedley: sure. >>john: ...and verifiably.
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>>dr. nedley: okay. >>john: okay, so,
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What really helps?
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>>dr. nedley: it's actually a combination
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Of a number of simple factors we've put together.
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>>john: simple factors? >>dr. nedley: simple factors,
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Like drinking more water.
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>>john: we're talking about...an absolutely disabling condition--
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>>dr. nedley: right.
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>>john: ...where the people suffering from this--
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>>dr. nedley: yes.
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>>john: ...believe in their hearts that the world would be
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A better place without them? >>dr. nedley: right.
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>>john: and you're starting with drink more water?
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>>dr. nedley: drink more water. >>john: okay, okay.
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I don't want to hear too much more about the treatment.
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[dr. nedley chuckles] take, take 20 or 30 seconds
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And tell me why does that kind of simple thing help.
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What, what's going on in a life
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That something like that could even make a difference?
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>>dr. nedley: well, our brain cells work better
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When they're hydrated. and nothing hydrates like water.
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All the other water substitutes actually take away
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From the hydration of our neurons
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And our ability to have good synaptic activity.
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>>john: okay. >>dr. nedley: and so,
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Studies have shown, actually,
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If we just take someone from less than two glasses of water
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Per day, which the typical person has,
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To greater than five glasses of water a day,
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Their rates of depression and anxiety will actually start
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To improve within a week of that treatment.
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>>john: so what else is effective in the treatment
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Of depression and anxiety? simple things.
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>>dr. nedley: becoming physically fit.
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Physical fitness is actually better for our brain
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Than it is our body.
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And cardio exercises actually improve a protein level
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In our brain called brain- derived neurotrophic factor.
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It's kind of a brain fertilizer,
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And it helps the brain get ready for positive changes.
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So, there are some people that are fit
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That come to our program.
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Their causes are different, but most people that come
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Are not at the fitness level they should be at,
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And that's why we have fitness experts, and in 10 days,
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And they're going to actually show
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Measurable fitness improvement in their cardio
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And a lot of different parameters.
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And that will mirror very much, uh,
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Their success during the program.
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>>john: give me another one,
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And then something i want to run by you.
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>>dr. nedley: so, another one is actually light--light therapy.
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So we utilize light in the morning.
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Actually we have them wake up at the same time every morning,
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And then they're exposed to a bright light that actually sets
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Their body clock, their circadian rhythm,
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And it also starts the production of serotonin
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In the brain. and those two factors are very important.
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It's going to improve their energy level
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Throughout the day, and it's going to improve their ability
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To go to sleep at night.
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In fact, that's one of the best sleep aids,
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Is a light therapy box utilized upon awakening in the morning.
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So, they're only exposed to it for about 30 minutes.
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Then we get 'em out and exercise.
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And those simple treatments of hydration, physical exercise,
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And light therapy start the process.
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>>john: you said "simple treatments."
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They are profoundly simple. [dr. nedley chuckles]
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It, it seems that what you're doing is actually treating
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The causes of depression--
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Not enough activity, not enough water,
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Not enough light. >>dr. nedley: yes.
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>>john: you're, you're actually taking us down
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To the granular level in treating the very things
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That cause depression. >>dr. nedley: exactly.
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>>john: that's not how depression is typically treated.
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It's typically treated--
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Well, we have a range of possible medications.
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"we'll try this one; come back in a, in a week or two
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Or whatever, and maybe we'll change your medication."
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>>dr. nedley: mm-hmm. >>john: as a society,
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We're really stuck on medication,
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As though it's the solution for everything.
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How in the world do we change our thinking?
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>>dr. nedley: well, we have to educate the public that
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It's not just a lack of medicine that's causing depression.
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Uh, it's actually the lack of good brain biochemistry
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That has to do with things like nutrition,
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What we're putting into our body,
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And what we're doing with our body.
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>>john: what do some of the medications actually do
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To the brain?
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>>dr. nedley: so, how the typical antidepressant works,
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It's not helping the brain to produce
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More of a neurotransmitter, nor is it helping the receptors.
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When we get to the root cause, we're going to actually help
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The brain produce more of the neurotransmitter,
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And we're going to be helping at the receptor level
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So that the synaptic activity goes up.
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How the drugs work is that they actually plug
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The reuptake channels in the releasing neuron
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Of the substance they're trying to treat.
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So, if they're wanting to have
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More serotonin synaptic activity,
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They plug the serotonin reuptake channels.
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And that allows more serotonin in the synapse.
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The problem with it is now we have to make even more serotonin
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Because that serotonin's not being vacuumed
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Back up into the brain.
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And so it produces a short-term benefit--by "short-term,"
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Maybe six months, nine months--and after that,
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Now the brain is even shorter in serotonin than it was
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Before you started to use the drug, and now you're needing
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Dosage increases; you're needing additional medicines;
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You're needing a number of other factors to try to help
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The neuron of its even more severe depletion of serotonin.
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>>john: simple treatments that work,
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A complex, challenging diagnosis,
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But simple treatments given by god
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That make all the difference.
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More on depression with dr. neil nedley in just a moment.
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>>john: thanks for joining me on "it is written."
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My guest is dr. neil nedley, who for a quarter of a century
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Has been successfully treating people with depression
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And anxiety, in many cases extreme depression and anxiety.
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You've had a great deal of success with this?
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>>dr. nedley: yes.
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>>john: we're talking about
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Simple treatments. >>dr. nedley: mm-hmm.
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>>john: i mean, very simple treatments. let me ask you this.
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When it comes to, uh, depression,
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What role does nutrition play?
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Well, what role does nutrition play in the treatment?
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>>dr. nedley: it plays a major role.
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In fact, it is well documented now that nutritional medicine
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Is one of the best therapies for depression and anxiety--
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And directed nutritional supplements to actually help
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The individual with the genetic challenges
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That they might have as well.
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>>john: okay, so what would that look like?
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>>dr. nedley: for instance, uh, taking a s-adenosylmethionine
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To help the person methylate and be able to make
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More serotonin and dopamine in their brain.
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>>john: okay.
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>>dr. nedley: if they have a genetic defect,
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They're going to have certain personality traits
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That go along with that defect,
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Like a calm exterior and a tense interior,
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Tendencies for obsessions, tendencies for addictions,
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And actually being highly competitive.
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Often it's the attorneys or even the sports heroes
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That suffer from mental health issues, and they just need
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More methionine or s-adenosylmethionine
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To help them methylate better. that's a nutritional therapy.
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That is something that's natural;
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It's not something you can get in a pharmaceutical agent
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Because the trademark organization won't allow
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Something natural to be trademarked.
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It has to be unnatural in order to get it trademarked.
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And so, natural therapies often are superior.
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>>john: diet--you mentioned nutrition--what about diet?
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What, what am i eating that's helping me
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Or mitigating against good mental health?
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>>dr. nedley: yeah, exactly. so, we need to get
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Tryptophan in your diet in order to make serotonin.
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And we need to get the tryptophan into the brain.
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So, we don't just give iv serotonin
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Because serotonin won't even be picked up by the brain.
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The blood-brain barrier prevents it from going across.
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So we need to get the tryptophan,
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Even that's too large to get into the brain,
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So we have to have it with specific carriers.
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And it turns out the best carriers are foods
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That have tryptophan and natural carbohydrates in them.
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And those are going to be more of your plant-based foods.
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One of the reasons why a plant-based diet
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Has been shown to be superior to other diets,
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Improving depression and anxiety in as little as two weeks,
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Once we shift over to a, a highly antioxidant diet
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That has adequate tryptophan and tyrosine
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To make the neurotransmitters we need.
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>>john: so, you can eat certain foods
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That are going to help you. >>dr. nedley: exactly.
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>>john: generally speaking, they're more plant-based.
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>>dr. nedley: correct. >>john: okay, okay.
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You mentioned genetics a moment ago.
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I want to ask you about this.
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Are some people genetically predisposed to depression?
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Is that the case? and-- >>dr. nedley: oh, absolutely.
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>>john: well, if so, what do you do about that
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If it's your genes? >>dr. nedley: well, fortunately,
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We can shut down those bad genes.
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And so, when people come to our program, we measure
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Their genetics--and we also measure their epigenetics--
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To see if that gene is active or not.
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And fortunately, it's not medication,
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But it's natural therapies
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That can actually deactivate that gene.
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And then we can actually measure the before-and-after results.
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We can see that the gene was very active to start out with,
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And within a few weeks, we remeasure.
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One of the reason why we do follow-up on our patients
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After they get back is we're actually doing
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Follow-up blood work to show that
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That gene has been deactivated.
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Or if it hasn't, there might be some other therapies
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That we can put into the equation that are simple,
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Side effect free,
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That'll actually shut down that mutated gene.
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>>john: thank god there are
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Simple solutions. >>dr. nedley: yes.
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>>john: appreciate what you are doing.
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What i'm hearing as i listen between the lines
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Is, is you're following a very, a simple--
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I don't mean in a derogatory way--
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Very biblical plan because god wants us
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To have a sound mind. >>dr. nedley: mm-hmm.
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>>john: can anyone have that sound mind that god is offering?
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>>dr. nedley: absolutely-- >>john: yeah.
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>>dr. nedley: ...absolutely, we, we, the design of our brain
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Is tremendous because of its ability to change itself.
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It can dramatically improve under the right conditions.
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And that brain can not only learn new things;
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It can start making better neurotransmitters.
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It can have better receptors.
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It can have much more fulfillment and success.
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Our brains are capable of amazing things
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If we just foster 'em in the right way.
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>>john: there's one thing i would like you to remember.
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That's this; the bible says,
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"thou wilt"--speaking about god--
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"thou wilt keep him in perfect peace,
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Whose mind is stayed on thee: because he trusteth in thee."
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You read that in isaiah 26:3.
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"perfect peace." >>dr. nedley: mmm.
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>>john: the bible says, "let this mind be in you,
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Which was also in christ jesus,"
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Speaking certainly of an attitude, an approach,
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A humility, but definitely speaking about a mind.
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When we look, dr. nedley, at earth's last great crisis,
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It's a battle for the mind. >>dr. nedley: absolutely.
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>>john: mark of the beast, the seal of god,
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Affixed to the minds of those who receive them.
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I think there are good days ahead.
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There's reason for every last person to be hopeful.
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>>dr. nedley: absolutely.
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>>john: i appreciate you sharing that hope. thanks so much.
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>>dr. nedley: thank you.
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Call 800-253-3000.
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Or visit us online at iiwoffer.com.
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>>john: let's pray together now.
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♪[soft music]♪
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Our father in heaven,
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We thank you that jesus is the prince of peace.
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Anxiety and depression are not your plan for our lives.
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We find no fault with people who find themselves there;
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Instead, our hearts beat in harmony
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And in sympathy with them,
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Asking that you, lord, the great physician,
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Would deliver everyone looking for deliverance,
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Would strengthen everyone looking for strength,
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That you would encourage and uphold every last person
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And deliver to each one a sound mind, a transformed life,
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A new experience.
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We thank you for salvation in jesus,
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And we thank you that through jesus
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We might have joy on this earth.
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We thank you, and our hope is strong in the return of jesus.
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We pray with john, who wrote revelation,
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"even so, come, lord jesus."
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This is our prayer. in jesus' name.
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Amen.
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Thank you so much for joining me.
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I'm looking forward to seeing you again next time.
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Until then, remember:
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"it is written, 'man shall not live by bread alone,
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But by every word that proceeds from the mouth of god.'"
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♪[dramatic, triumphant theme music]♪
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♪[music ends]♪♪
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John Bradshaw - Clearing The Fog - Understanding Depression

January 12, 2025 | S25:E2

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