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Allen Jackson NOW | Allen Jackson: November 25, 2024 | Allen Jackson Now | November 25, 2024
- One. well, good evening and welcome to nashville.
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- I'm alan jackson,
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- And thanks for inviting me into your living room.
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- Your pantry, your tree house,
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- Wherever you power up your screen.
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- I'm just glad you're watching.
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- Well, tonight
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- We're going to talk with a former police officer
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- Who's become a huge presence on social media
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- With over 4 million followers and subscribers.
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- It's not the type of transition you would normally see.
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- His name is brandon tatum and he offers up a mixture
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- Of commentary.
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- It's a really good merchandise on his youtube channel.
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- You should check it out.
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- Brandon, thank you for joining us.
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- It's my pleasure.
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- You know, your service with the tucson,
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- Arizona police department ranged from working
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- The streets to swat teams and then police training.
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- How did you get from the squad room to the public square?
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- Well, pastor alan jackson,
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- Thank you so much for having me on.
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- I love you so much, man.
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- You were one of the
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- Inspirations, for me,
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- Every time i wake up, because pastors around
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- The country are afraid to tell the truth.
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- And i just thank you for it. i had to say it.
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- I think it's only god's grace and mercy that he had on my life
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- And his his divine direction
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- That led me from
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- To even be a police officer, and then from
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- Being a police officer to doing what i do now.
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- But it it all started with, you know,
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- Serving our country and serving my community with my life.
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- And that made me more patriotic and made me more appreciative
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- Of life and appreciative of being, an american.
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- And with that came making a living
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- And making a paycheck and taxes and all of those things
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- Made me more politically involved.
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- And being around a lot of
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- Other police officers who were conservative.
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- It really opened my eyes up
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- To make me realize that i'm a lot more conservative
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- Leaning than i was liberal leaning,
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- And from that point, moving forward,
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- I started to get more engaged in politics.
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- I went from believing i was on the left side to being
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- A republican, registered republican and voted republican.
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- And what really sparked
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- The change in transition was me making a video.
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- And i'd never done social media before.
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- I wasn't a video guy. i had nothing to do with it.
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- I was actually being lazy
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- Because normally i'll just text, you know,
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- Write a text of the post i wanted to put out.
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- But after going to the trump rally,
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- I was so blown away about the experience that i had
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- That i said, look,
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- I have to make a video about this
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- And i'm gonna put it out and see where it goes.
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- And lo and behold, it ended up getting millions of views.
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- Well, i'm
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- Curious, as a black man, how did you feel when
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- President, former president barack obama came out
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- Just prior to the election?
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- Really with a shame based message
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- To the men
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- In the black community
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- If they were going to vote for donald trump.
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- Did you think he was giving
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- Wisdom to a generation, or what was up with that?
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- Well, we haven't, looked up to barack obama
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- For a very long time.
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- You know, at first,
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- You know, thinking about him being the first black
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- President was even me growing up believing it.
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- That was a great change in america,
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- And it was a great sign of our progress.
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- And we thought, because he was very charismatic, very smart.
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- We thought that he would do something great in america.
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- But if anybody, they have both
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- Of their eyes open and they're paying attention
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- To what's going on.
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- We saw him degrade race relations in this country
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- And not help unite us.
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- And watching this field policies and watching him
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- Not really live up to the expectation
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- That most people had of him,
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- Made a lot of people walk away from him
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- And not really listen to what he had to say
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- In every election year, instead of him operate with integrity.
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- He's he's peddling lies that benefit only the democrat side.
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- And when you see that, you lose trust for the guy
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- You know, you expect him to be honest
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- About the things that he truly believe in.
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- And when you watch him get on television
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- And say
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- That joe biden is doing very well and he's,
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- He's he's he's capable of being the president.
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- And then you see what happened with joe biden.
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- You realize, man,
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- This guy's not telling us what he really feel.
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- He's trying to push us as if we're ignorant
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- Into believing what he want us to believe.
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- And him coming out and saying that men, black men,
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- Because they're not supporting
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- Kamala harris, are misogynistic or a misogynist
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- Is the most insane thing that i've ever heard.
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- He would have had a winning message if he would have said,
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- I understand the concerns of the economy.
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- I understand the concerns that you have
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- Of her lack of professionalism in some cases.
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- But let me remedy that with some facts and evidence
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- That will convince you that you're going to live
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- A better american dream experience.
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- With her being in office,
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- You could be able to put food on a table for your children
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- In a way in which you haven't before,
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- With her being in office.
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- Don't insult my intelligence
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- By deducing what i believe in a in a candidate
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- Down to you know, her six or what color skin she has.
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- Well, brandon, you have been an enthusiastic supporter
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- Of donald trump and a strong voice in the social media
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- That you have jumped into the immigration mess recently,
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- Taking issue
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- With the governor's decision in arizona
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- To not help with any deportations,
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- Which she was asked about recently on abc.
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- Well, i think the diversion
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- Of law enforcement from their,
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- Their that the work that they do every day
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- To keep our community safe, people hiding in fear.
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- We saw that, under previous state policies
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- Here, and, it, it harms
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- Communities.
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- Brandon, it wasn't just the arizona governor.
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- The governor of massachusetts was asked
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- About deporting others who were here illegally
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- Committing all sorts of crimes,
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- And she seemed to barely care about the people who voted her
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- Into office, saying that it was unfortunate
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- That from time to time, things will happen.
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- It's a bit shocking to hear them take a pass on their
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- Most important duties keeping people safe.
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- What do you suppose has happened to them?
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- They forgot about the people.
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- 1,000%.
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- They forgot how they got there
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- And they forgot who they work for.
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- I mean, these people get a level of power,
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- And then they believe that they have ultimate power,
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- And they believe now is their state,
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- And they're going to run it the way they want to run it.
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- And in reality, you supposed to be functioning
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- In and listen to what your constituents
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- Have to say about these issues.
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- That's why they voted for you and put you in office.
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- You don't just go rogue and do whatever you want to do.
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- You still have a duty to uphold the constitution.
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- Uphold
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- What the people of arizona or the people of michigan,
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- Or wherever state that you're running,
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- What they have already deemed a necessity for them.
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- And in katie hobbs is the most embarrassing governor
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- I have ever experienced.
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- She looks disheveled half of the time she's on television.
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- This time she finally had her hair done.
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- But she had she don't have her thoughts together.
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- When you hear a person consistently
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- And this is a governor of the of a beautiful, amazing state,
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- Say, when you say, it's
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- Because you're searching for things to say in your mind.
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- These things are not in the forefront of her mind.
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- You know, supporting police is not something
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- That's at the top of mind for her.
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- So she you have to go gather her thoughts
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- And try to think of the next thing to say.
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- And it's apparent
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- It is not even a question that we should secure the border.
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- And secure the border is your love for fellow man.
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- Because the more you have the border open,
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- The more that you have people trafficked into this country,
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- The more that you have coyotes
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- From mexican cartels making money off of using people
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- And lying to them,
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- Deceiving them
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- To make them think that when they come to america,
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- Everything is going to be glorious.
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- They're hurting these people.
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- They get into america, they have to be in the shadows.
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- So they do not work for fair wages.
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- I mean, they do not get health care that they deserve.
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- You know, they do not get police responses that they deserve.
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- When i was a cop,
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- When a person who was illegal in this country
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- Would get assaulted, attacked,
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- They wouldn't dare call the police for help
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- Because they didn't want to get deported.
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- So having these people functioning in our nation,
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- And they're not functioning like an american citizen,
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- And they don't have the rights
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- And supports that most of us get.
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- That's not right either.
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- So what we should do
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- Is secure our border and allow people
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- To come into this country in a pathway that's acceptable
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- So they can experience the american dream in a fair way.
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- Well, brandon, it seems to me that the open border
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- Is the fruit of some other policies.
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- It goes back to things like defund the police and da's
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- Who won't
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- Prosecute the crimes
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- That are being committed in our major cities.
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- I'm of the opinion that the police deserve our support.
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- Will you validate that or am i off base.
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- 1,000%?
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- When you have a person
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- That is sacrificing their their entire life,
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- Their livelihood, their families
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- To go out and serve and protect absolute strangers
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- Who wouldn't give them our support?
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- Now we don't support officers
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- That are out here doing the wrong thing.
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- If you're doing illegal activity
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- Shooting people, you shouldn't shoot.
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- I don't support that and nobody should.
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- But the majority of police officers in this nation
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- Are everyday
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- Men and women, like the ones who are watching this show
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- That just want to provide for their families.
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- They just want to see a better america.
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- They just want their communities to be safe.
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- And they're not just, making a statement verbally.
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- They're actually
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- Putting their life on the line to ensure that that happens.
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- So people that are serving in that capacity deserves respect.
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- And i don't know
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- How we got to a point where we've demonized now.
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- I do know why
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- Certain politicians have a vested interest to do it,
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- Not because they love the people.
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- It's because they want certain groups
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- And demographics of people to vote for them.
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- They're lying
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- To convince a group of people
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- That they are the party that's going to make a difference.
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- I don't think black
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- People are unfairly targeted by police officers.
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- That is not a true statement,
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- And it's not backed by any level of evidence.
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- But if you're running for office
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- And you want to convince people through emotionalism
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- That you are the the party that they should support,
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- You make up and embellish this boogeyman of a police officer
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- So that you can continue to rescue them
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- From that fake boogeyman for centuries to come.
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- And i think that's where the problem lies.
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- Let's be honest about it.
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- Police officers, generally speaking,
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- Are doing an incredible job.
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- We should support them to do a great job in better.
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- We'll be back shortly with
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- More of our conversation with brandon tatum.
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- We've got a lot more to cover.
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- Stay with us.
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- Stay with us.
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- We're back with brandon tatum.
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- Brandon, you said that your perspective
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- Entirely changed when you became a parent.
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- Can you tell us a little bit about that?
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- That is one of the things about growing up and obviously
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- Getting saved and
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- And learning about what god has called us to do
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- Is living it out.
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- And when you live it out through
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- Procreating and you have a child,
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- That's a blessing from god,
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- It really makes you put things in perspective.
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- One of the things that i did early on,
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- And i know it may sound trivial to some people,
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- But when i was in college, i loved playing video games.
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- I would literally play my ncaa
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- Football game every single day of the week.
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- But then when i had a son, i said, you know what?
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- I need to.
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- I discarded that game,
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- I took it, i threw it in the trash
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- Because my priority was to be the best man that i could be
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- And the best father that i could be.
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- And i had to put away all those childish things that i would do
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- In order to accomplish that, that goal.
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- And i think
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- As god's calling on my life and other men and women who have
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- Children's lives
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- Is to serve the next generation and be a good parent to them,
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- Raise them up in a way of the lord.
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- And and
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- I think that's the purpose that god has had in our lives.
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- And when we do, that is no other more fulfilling purpose than
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- To see that come to fruition.
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- You know, i think we're facing a real challenge in our nation.
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- And it's not political. it's spiritual.
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- You know, it's not so difficult to father a child,
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- But it's a lifelong commitment to become the father of a child.
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- I've heard you talk about this to men and young men especially.
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- What's your wisdom for those young men on
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- How they could step forward to be a more effective father?
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- Well, first you got to get your relationship right with god.
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- I mean, i'm not saying that you have to do it
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- Mutually, exclusively,
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- But what i'm saying is that you
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- Got to work on your relationship with god.
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- So you can have that connection and leadership
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- And guidance for you to even be an effective father.
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- And once you do that,
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- Then you have to start being honest with yourself
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- About what direction do you want your child's life to go?
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- And it's up to you to try to guide them into that direction.
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- I would also say
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- Give grace to your children as well,
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- Because we all know when we were kids, we were cutting up and
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- And making mistakes
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- And give a little grace to your children
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- When they make mistakes like you did, and not always have them.
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- Try to follow in your footsteps and,
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- You know, live vicariously through them.
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- So a little bit of that, a little bit of grace
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- Gives them the opportunity to grow and become the people
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- That god has called them to be.
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- But the structure as a father
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- Is for you to lead, as god called you to lead,
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- And then help your children
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- Lead out what god has called them to do.
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- Well, brandon, you
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- Are a rather outspoken
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- Critic or evaluation, at least of contemporary culture,
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- And there's a lot of voices from elite universities and such
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- Telling us how to think.
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- And i think the average
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- American in the heart of this nation has rejected it.
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- Things seem pretty simple, like when we see men
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- Competing with women in sports.
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- You were a d1 athlete.
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- Do you think those men should be competing with those women?
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- Oh absolutely not.
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- I mean, there's
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- A reason that we've, differentiated male sports
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- Versus female sports.
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- And i'll tell you what i mean.
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- Being a college athlete,
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- I was far better of an athlete than any of the women on it was
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- As far as strength was, i was much stronger than any woman.
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- I probably 5 or 6 women together wasn't as strong as me,
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- And i wasn't even the strongest on the football team.
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- So god has made us different.
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- Men have testosterone in our body that runs a where
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- I more muscle density, you name it.
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- We have a different, ability in that area.
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- And i think there's no place for a man
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- That's confused with his identity
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- To be able to get into women's spaces and dominate them.
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- Pastor jackson, like any time you see this happening,
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- The women are getting dominated.
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- I mean, they're breaking records.
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- They're winning state championships like we've seen it
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- Happen in washington state and high school.
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- We've seen it in oregon state.
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- These these boys are
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- Or are identified as girls and win a state championships.
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- And they're thwarting the ability
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- For young women who have trained their whole life to actually,
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- Actually realize the goals that they've worked so hard for.
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- And so i think that i don't know how we got to this point.
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- It's very clear
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- If we
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- If we have an influx of people
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- Who are struggling with their identity,
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- Why is it not the case where we can create a sport for them?
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- Maybe a category if you're trans,
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- But it doesn't make any sense that you would have a boy
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- Getting a girl sports and dominate.
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- And the reason why i think it's so apparent
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- Is because you never see it in reverse.
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- You never see a girl who's transitioning
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- To being a boy, being effective whatsoever in sports.
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- But you always see men who are identifying
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- As girls or women absolutely killing it.
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- And so and i always say, stevie wonder can see
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- That there's a problem there.
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- Well, brandon, i appreciate your courage and your boldness
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- To speak into our culture
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- With a biblical worldview in the face
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- Of some pretty serious headwinds.
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- You're making a difference.
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- Thanks for taking some time with us on the program today.
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- Well, god bless you, pastor jackson.
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- Much love to you.
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- And thank you for having me on.
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- You come back and see us again.
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- We want to keep up with your journey.
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- Next, i've got some personal observations to share with you.
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- Stay with us.
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- Stay with us.
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- You know, i have something of an announcement to make.
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- You may or may not know that thou shalt be kind
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- Is not one of the commandments
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- That moses brought down the mountain.
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- It's not cut in stone.
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- I'm not opposed to kindness.
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- I prefer it, i prefer to receive it.
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- And whenever possible,
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- I try to express kindness to other people.
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- But i think we've embraced a mistake in notion
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- That our assignment in life is to be kind to everyone.
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- And there are times
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- When the truth is more important than being kind.
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- I give you an example.
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- If you go to the doctor
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- And he doesn't want to give you
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- Bad news, he wants to be your friend.
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- He wants to be certain
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- That you like him more when you leave than when you came in.
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- Well, then he's not going to tell you the truth
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- Always about your physical
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- Health and the changes you need to make
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- So you can be healthier.
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- Well, i'm
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- Afraid concerned that in the christian community
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- We've adopted this idea that we want to be liked.
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- So we want to be kind
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- And we avoid the truth in many settings.
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- I believe the best pathway between where we are
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- And a better future for ourselves, our children
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- And our grandchildren is that we choose the truth.
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- The book of proverbs says to buy the truth and not to sell it.
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- Well, there are times
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- When we are sharing the truth or receiving the truth.
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- We think the person speaking to us
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- Isn't being as kind as we would like him to be.
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- It's not an easy message.
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- We don't like it,
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- But the reality is, the truth, jesus said, would
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- Bring freedom to our lives.
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- So here's my suggestion.
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- Let's decide that we don't have to be unkind.
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- You don't have to be mean spirited,
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- But we're going to be a people of the truth,
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- And we will choose the truth
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- Even when the message that it brings
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- Is it always something that causes people to like us more?
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- We can work through our disagreements.
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- We can overcome those things.
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- But if we self-censor and refuse to tell the truth
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- Because we think we're being kind,
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- We're really abandoning our assignment
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- To be salt and light, to be people of faith.
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- If we'll choose the truth and share it with love.
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- I truly believe there are more reasons for hope than despair.
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- When we return.
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- I'm going to read some of your emails.
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- I'm going to read some of your emails.
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- Thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts with us.
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- Your emails are a highlight in our program.
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- Kathleen from warrington, pennsylvania,
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- Writes, i pastor, i've been watching agm for years
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- And now it's great to see alan jackson now as well.
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- Thank you for your meat
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- And potatoes preaching, not just the dessert.
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- My question is, do people realize even heaven has borders?
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- God bless you and yours and god bless america again.
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- I have hope.
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- It's a great point, kathleen.
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- Heaven does have borders.
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- And any sovereign nation that plans to exist over
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- Any length of time has to have borders as well.
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- One of the most troubling things to me
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- In this season, while our border has been open,
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- Is those who have insisted on our border at first lied to us
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- In the media, telling it's secure, telling us it is secure,
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- And then they've never really told us
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- Why they want the border open.
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- We've seen millions of people pour into our country
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- With a devastating impact in many respects,
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- And no one's ever said why they'd opened that border.
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- I pray we have the wisdom now to close the border,
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- To return to an orderly immigration policy.
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- It'll make all of us stronger.
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- Sharon writes, back in the 80s, my daughter
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- Got pregnant and her boyfriend wanted her to get an abortion.
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- I took her to a counselor
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- And she ended up keeping her baby girl.
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- Later giving her up for adoption.
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- I now have a beautiful 35 year old granddaughter in my life.
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- Praise the lord!
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- It's a great reminder, sharon, of the sanctity of human life.
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- Sometimes the circumstances are very difficult
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- And the challenges before us are not easy.
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- But the choice to honor life and to celebrate that great gift
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- That god gives to us always writes a better future.
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- I pray we're waking up to that reality.
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- We'll make sure to send your emails
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- To comments at allen jackson now.com.
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- From all of us here in nashville.
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- Thank you for joining us tonight.
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- And you have a wonderful evening.
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