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June 24, 2019
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Ravi Zacharias

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  • - WHAT HAPPENED
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  • IN THE 1960'S GOES
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  • BACK, ACTUALLY, TO THE LATTER
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  • PART OF THE 19TH CENTURY.
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  • IN 1893, THERE WAS A MAN
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  • BY THE NAME OF VIVEKANANDA
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  • WHO CAME INTO AMERICA
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  • AND BEGAN TO SPEAK AT
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  • THAT TIME TO
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  • THE AMERICAN AUDIENCES.
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  • WHEN VIVEKANANDA STARTED TO
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  • SPEAK FOR THE FIRST TIME,
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  • PEOPLE WERE SORT OF
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  • IN A STATE OF SHOCK.
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  • IT WAS THE PARLIAMENT
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  • OF WORLD RELIGIONS,
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  • AND THERE IT WAS --
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  • IN 1886, I GUESS IT WAS --
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  • AND HE WAS AN UNINVITED SPEAKER.
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  • BUT HE WAS A BRILLIANT MAN.
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  • A BRILLIANT INDIAN SCHOLAR.
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  • HE WAS KNOWLEDGEABLE
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  • IN WESTERN PHILOSOPHERS,
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  • EASTERN PHILOSOPHERS.
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  • HE'D READ PEOPLE LIKE KANT,
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  • AND HUME, AND ALL OF THEM,
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  • AND HE HAD UNDERSTOOD THE EARLY
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  • DAYS OF DARWINIAN THINKING.
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  • HE WOULD QUOTE THESE THINGS
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  • RIGHT, LEFT, AND CENTER.
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  • HE WALKED UP TO THE PLATFORM,
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  • AND AS HE BEGAN TO SPEAK,
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  • HIS OPENING WORDS CAPTURED
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  • THE AUDIENCE THERE IN CHICAGO.
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  • ALL KINDS OF SCHOLARS HAD
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  • PRESENTED WHAT THEY HAD DONE,
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  • AND THEN VIVEKANANDA WALKED UP,
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  • AND HE BEGAN WITH THESE WORDS.
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  • BROTHERS AND SISTERS,
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  • WE WHO COME FROM THE EAST
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  • HAVE SAT HERE ON THE PLATFORM
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  • DAY AFTER DAY
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  • AND HAVE BEEN TOLD IN
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  • A PATRONIZING WAY THAT WE OUGHT
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  • TO ACCEPT CHRISTIANITY
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  • BECAUSE CHRISTIAN NATIONS
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  • ARE THE MOST PROSPEROUS.
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  • BUT WE LOOK ABOUT,
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  • AND WE SEE ENGLAND,
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  • THE MOST PROSPEROUS
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  • CHRISTIAN NATION IN THE WORLD,
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  • WITH HER FOOT ON THE NECK
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  • OF 250.000.000 ASIATICS.
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  • WE LOOK BACK INTO HISTORY
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  • AND SEE THAT THE PROSPERITY
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  • BEGAN WITH THE INVASION
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  • OF MEXICO.
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  • CHRISTIANITY WINS ITS PROSPERITY
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  • BY CUTTING THE THROATS
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  • OF ITS FELLOW MEN.
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  • AT SUCH A PRICE, THE HINDU
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  • WILL NOT HAVE PROSPERITY.
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  • I HAVE SAT HERE TODAY,
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  • AND I HAVE HEARD THE HEIGHT
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  • OF INTOLERANCE FROM YOU.
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  • I HAVE HEARD THE CREEDS
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  • OF THE MUSLIMS APPLAUDED,
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  • WHEN TODAY THE MUSLIM SWORD
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  • IS CARRYING DESTRUCTION
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  • INTO INDIA.
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  • BLOOD AND SWORD IS NOT FOR
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  • THE HINDU, WHOSE RELIGION
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  • IS BASED ON THE LAWS OF LOVE.
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  • WEASTERN SPIRITUALITY ARRIVED
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  • WITH THAT SPEECH.
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  • WESTERN APOLOGETIC
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  • WITH AN EASTERN WORLD VIEW.
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  • I CALL IT A WEASTERN APOLOGETIC.
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  • YOU KNOW,
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  • I HAVE A FRIEND IN BOMBAY.
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  • ACTUALLY, HIS DAUGHTER IS HERE.
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  • JUST FLEW IN TWO DAYS AGO.
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  • HE TOLD ME HIS BROTHER
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  • IS A SKEPTIC.
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  • AND HIS BROTHER ONE DAY SAID TO
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  • HIM GUL, I'VE GOT A PERFECT PLAN
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  • FOR YOU TO BECOME A MILLIONAIRE.
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  • JUST LET YOUR HAIR GROWN LONG,
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  • LOOK LIKE A NICE GURU,
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  • WEAR A NICE, CLEAN KURTA PAJAMA,
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  • SIT IN THE LOTUS POSITION.
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  • I WILL BRING NINE FRIENDS.
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  • TEN OF US WILL SIT IN FRONT
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  • OF YOU, AND YOU JUST MUTTER
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  • ONE SENTENCE AT A TIME,
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  • AND WE'LL GO
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  • [INHALE, TONGUE CLICKING].
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  • THIS IS BEAUTIFUL.
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  • THIS IS JUST BEAUTIFUL.
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  • OH, HOW AMAZING.
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  • HOW AMAZING THIS IS.
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  • AND THEN NEXT DAY, WE EACH ONE
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  • WILL BRING 10 OTHERS, AND YOU'LL
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  • MUTTER A FEW OTHER ONE-LINERS,
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  • AND WE'LL ALL SAY OH, WOW.
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  • KEEP GOING LIKE THIS.
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  • GUL, WITHIN A YEAR,
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  • YOU WILL BECOME A MILLIONAIRE.
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  • HAVE YOU EVER READ THE WRITINGS
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  • OF SRI SRI RAVI SHANKAR?
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  • HE WAS A BILLIONAIRE.
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  • HAVE YOU SEEN HIS ONE-LINERS?
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  • ONE OF HIS ONE-LINERS
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  • IS YOUR HEAD MUST BE EMPTY,
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  • AND YOUR HAND MUST BE FULL.
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  • AND HE'S PROVED IT.
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  • AGAIN AND AGAIN - DO YOU KNOW
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  • THE PEOPLE FROM AROUND THE WORLD
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  • THAT GO TO HEAR
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  • SRI SRI RAVI SHANKAR
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  • FOR THIS KIND OF STUFF?
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  • THE SINGAPORE STRAITS TIMES
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  • HAD A WHOLE PAGE
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  • ON HIS ONE-LINERS.
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  • MOST OF IT WAS
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  • ESOTERIC NONSENSE,
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  • AND THE NEWSPAPER REPORTER
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  • NEVER HEARD STUFF LIKE THIS.
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  • I SIT THERE, AND I SAY
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  • TO MYSELF, THANK GOD I DIDN'T
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  • LISTEN TO THIS WHEN I WAS
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  • ON THE VERGE OF SUICIDE.
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  • I WOULD HAVE JUMPED OFF.
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  • IN A LIBYAN DESERT,
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  • THERE WAS A CERTAIN STONE FOUND,
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  • AND THIS IS WHAT IT SAID.
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  • I, THE CAPTAIN
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  • OF THE LEGION OF ROME,
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  • SERVING IN THE DESERT OF LIBYA,
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  • HAVE LEARNED AND PONDERED
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  • THIS TRUTH IN LIFE.
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  • LISTEN VERY CAREFULLY.
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  • I, THE CAPTAIN OF
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  • THE LEGION OF ROME,
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  • SERVING IN THE DESERT OF LIBYA,
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  • HAVE LEARNED AND PONDERED
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  • THIS TRUTH IN LIFE.
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  • THERE ARE TWO THINGS
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  • TO BE SOUGHT: LOVE AND POWER.
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  • NO ONE HAS BOTH.
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  • WHEN GADDAFI WAS
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  • FINALLY CORNERED,
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  • AND IN THAT PATHETIC SIGN
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  • AS HIS BODY WAS DENUDED,
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  • WHAT WE ARE TOLD IS
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  • THAT HE WAS BEGGING
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  • FOR MERCY THAT
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  • THEY WOULD NOT KILL HIM.
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  • LOVE AND POWER.
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  • NO ONE HAS BOTH.
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  • HE HAD THE POWER,
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  • BUT NO LOVE.
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  • NOW HE WAS PLEADING
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  • FOR LOVE WHEN SOMEBODY ELSE
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  • HAD THE POWER,
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  • AND IT DID NOT WORK FOR HIM.
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  • THAT'S PRETTY CLOSE
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  • TO THE TRUTH,
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  • BUT IT'S DEAD WRONG.
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  • THERE IS ONE PERSON
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  • IN THE WORLD
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  • WHO HAS BOTH LOVE AND POWER,
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  • AND THAT IS JESUS CHRIST.
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  • SO I TURN OVER A LEAF NOW,
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  • AND I WANNA GIVE YOU
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  • THREE SOLUTIONS TO THIS
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  • THAT WILL NEED TO BE ATTENDED,
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  • AND THEN TAKE YOU TO THE GOSPEL.
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  • WHERE IS GOD IN ALL OF THIS?
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  • WHERE IS JESUS CHRIST
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  • IN ALL OF THIS?
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  • HOW DID WE LOSE HIM IN AMERICA?
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  • HOW DID WE LOSE HIM IN AMERICA?
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  • I WAS SITTING NEXT TO A PREACHER
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  • THAT I WILL NOT NAME.
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  • ONE OF THE BIGGEST CHURCHES
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  • IN THIS COUNTRY.
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  • HE HAPPENED TO BE
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  • SITTING NEXT TO ME.
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  • WE WERE SITTING NEXT
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  • TO EACH OTHER BECAUSE
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  • WE WERE GONNA PREACH
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  • SAME CONFERENCE.
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  • WE BOARDED THE PLANE.
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  • I WON'T NAME THE CITY.
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  • BOARDED THE PLANE IN ONE CITY,
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  • WE WERE GOING TO ANOTHER CITY.
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  • AND HE LOOKED AT ME,
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  • AND HE SAID AREN'T YOU RAVI?
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  • I SAID YEAH,
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  • AND SAID NICE TO MEET YOU.
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  • AND HE GAVE ME HIS NAME.
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  • I SAID I'M SORRY
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  • I DIDN'T RECOGNIZE YOU.
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  • SO WE CHATTED.
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  • I SAID HOW ARE THINGS GOING?
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  • HE SAID, YOU KNOW,
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  • IT'S GOING WELL, GOING WELL.
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  • AND WE STARTED TALKING.
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  • HE SAID, YOU KNOW,
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  • BASICALLY THE PEOPLE
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  • FROM MY FATHER'S GENERATION
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  • AND ALL WERE FIGHTING THINGS
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  • THAT DIDN'T REALLY MATTER.
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  • WHAT DOES IT MATTER ABOUT
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  • THE INERRANCY OF SCRIPTURES?
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  • WHO CARES?
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  • WHO CARES?
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  • WHAT DOES IT MATTER?
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  • THE GUY IS SITTING NEXT TO ME
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  • AND RANTING THIS STUFF OFF,
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  • PREACHING TO THOUSANDS
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  • EVERY SUNDAY,
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  • AND I SAID YOU DON'T THINK
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  • IT MATTERS THAT THE SOURCE
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  • THAT YOU'RE USING WITH
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  • WHICH TO GUIDE LINES IS
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  • A GOD-GIVEN SOURCE,
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  • AND GOD-BREATHED,
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  • AND THEREFORE IN ITS SUBSTANCE,
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  • IT'S INFALLIBLE
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  • AND WITHOUT ERROR?
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  • AND I TOLD HIM AN ILLUSTRATION
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  • AFTER THAT AND A STORY.
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  • HE WAS QUITE STUNNED BY IT.
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  • I WON'T GO INTO
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  • THE DETAILS OF THAT,
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  • BUT YOU KNOW WHAT ACTUALLY
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  • HAS HAPPENED IN AMERICA
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  • AND IN MOST OF EUROPE?
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  • THE SAME THING THAT HAD
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  • HAPPENED IN JOSIAH'S TIME.
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  • WHAT HAPPENED
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  • IN JOSIAH'S TIME?
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  • THE BOOK OF THE LAW WAS LOST.
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  • THE BOOK OF THE LAW WAS LOST.
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  • JOSIAH BECAME KING AT AGE EIGHT.
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  • AT ABOUT EIGHT, 12, OR 15,
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  • HE STARTED TO SEEK AFTER GOD.
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  • IN HIS EARLY 20'S,
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  • HE BEGAN TO CLEANSE THE CITY.
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  • IN LATE 20'S,
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  • HE BEGAN TO CLEANSE THE TEMPLE.
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  • AND ALL OF A SUDDEN,
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  • THEY FOUND THE DUSTY VOLUME
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  • OF THE LAW OF GOD.
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  • AND THE SECRETARY COMES TO HIM,
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  • AND HE SAYS YOU'LL NEVER BELIEVE
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  • WHAT I FOUND.
  • 00:08:07.160 --> 00:08:08.120
  • YOU HAVE TO ASK,
  • 00:08:08.120 --> 00:08:09.020
  • HOW LONG WAS THIS MISSING?
  • 00:08:10.170 --> 00:08:13.170
  • THE WORD OF GOD,
  • 00:08:13.170 --> 00:08:15.030
  • THE LAW OF GOD,
  • 00:08:15.030 --> 00:08:16.140
  • WHICH IS BASED ON
  • 00:08:16.140 --> 00:08:17.030
  • THE ABSOLUTE CHARACTER OF GOD,
  • 00:08:17.030 --> 00:08:19.100
  • NOT ON THE RELATIVISTIC
  • 00:08:19.100 --> 00:08:20.230
  • WHIMS OF HUMANITY, WAS LOST,
  • 00:08:20.230 --> 00:08:22.110
  • AND WHERE IT WAS LOST WAS
  • 00:08:22.110 --> 00:08:23.150
  • IN THE HOUSE OF GOD.
  • 00:08:24.280 --> 00:08:27.280
  • WHEN THE LAW OF THE LORD IS
  • 00:08:27.280 --> 00:08:28.260
  • LOST IN THE HOUSE OF GOD,
  • 00:08:28.260 --> 00:08:31.040
  • THERE IS NO MESSAGE LEFT TO GIVE
  • 00:08:31.040 --> 00:08:33.030
  • TO THE SPIRITUALLY MINDED.
  • 00:08:33.030 --> 00:08:35.110
  • WE HAVEN'T GOT AN AUTHORITY
  • 00:08:35.110 --> 00:08:36.140
  • LEFT ANYMORE AFTER THAT.
  • 00:08:36.140 --> 00:08:38.240
  • AND YOU LOOK AGAIN, AND AGAIN,
  • 00:08:38.240 --> 00:08:41.020
  • AND AGAIN, AND YOU ASK YOURSELF
  • 00:08:41.020 --> 00:08:42.100
  • THE QUESTION,
  • 00:08:42.100 --> 00:08:43.100
  • HOW DID THIS HAPPEN?
  • 00:08:43.100 --> 00:08:45.140
  • THAT OUR PLACES OF WORSHIP
  • 00:08:45.140 --> 00:08:48.110
  • SO OFTEN CAN BE FILLED
  • 00:08:48.110 --> 00:08:50.040
  • WITH THOUSANDS OF YOUNG PEOPLE
  • 00:08:50.040 --> 00:08:52.290
  • WHO REALLY DON'T KNOW
  • 00:08:52.290 --> 00:08:54.070
  • THE WORD OF GOD.
  • 00:08:54.070 --> 00:08:57.060
  • I'LL TELL YOU,
  • 00:08:57.060 --> 00:08:58.220
  • IF THIS COUNTRY IS GONNA CHANGE,
  • 00:08:58.220 --> 00:09:00.140
  • IT'LL HAVE TO BEGIN
  • 00:09:00.140 --> 00:09:01.030
  • WITH THE CHURCH.
  • 00:09:01.030 --> 00:09:02.220
  • WE TALK OF ALL
  • 00:09:02.220 --> 00:09:03.170
  • THE SYMPTOMS OF CULTURAL WAR,
  • 00:09:03.170 --> 00:09:05.270
  • AND WE'VE NOT DEALT
  • 00:09:05.270 --> 00:09:07.000
  • WITH THE CAUSE
  • 00:09:07.000 --> 00:09:07.230
  • THAT WE OURSELVES HAVE
  • 00:09:07.230 --> 00:09:08.190
  • LOST THE CAPACITY TO ENGAGE
  • 00:09:08.190 --> 00:09:10.140
  • THE MIND OF THE YOUNG
  • 00:09:10.140 --> 00:09:11.150
  • WITH THE POWER AND THE POTENCY
  • 00:09:11.150 --> 00:09:13.110
  • OF THE VERY LAW OF GOD.
  • 00:09:14.060 --> 00:09:17.060
  • SO WE LOST HIM IN THE TEMPLE.
  • 00:09:17.190 --> 00:09:20.190
  • SECONDLY, WHERE DID WE LOSE HIM?
  • 00:09:20.190 --> 00:09:23.070
  • IN LUKE 2, YOU'VE GOT MARY
  • 00:09:23.080 --> 00:09:26.080
  • AND JOSEPH IN THE MIDST
  • 00:09:26.080 --> 00:09:27.240
  • OF THE PASSOVER.
  • 00:09:27.240 --> 00:09:29.060
  • GOOD, GODLY PEOPLE.
  • 00:09:29.060 --> 00:09:30.240
  • THEY HAD TO BE TO MAKE
  • 00:09:30.240 --> 00:09:31.220
  • ALL THIS TREK.
  • 00:09:31.220 --> 00:09:33.190
  • AND THE WHOLE CEREMONY IS OVER,
  • 00:09:33.190 --> 00:09:35.270
  • AND THEY ARE DRIVING --
  • 00:09:35.270 --> 00:09:37.100
  • THEY'RE RIDING BACK HOME
  • 00:09:37.100 --> 00:09:39.040
  • IN THIS LONG CARAVAN.
  • 00:09:39.040 --> 00:09:41.070
  • AND IT WAS A LONG WHILE AFTER
  • 00:09:41.070 --> 00:09:42.140
  • ONE OF THEM SAID WHERE'S JESUS?
  • 00:09:42.250 --> 00:09:45.250
  • I THOUGHT YOU HAD HIM.
  • 00:09:45.250 --> 00:09:47.260
  • I DON'T.
  • 00:09:47.260 --> 00:09:48.170
  • DIDN'T YOU HAVE HIM?
  • 00:09:48.170 --> 00:09:49.030
  • NO.
  • 00:09:49.030 --> 00:09:49.130
  • DO YOU THINK ONE
  • 00:09:49.130 --> 00:09:50.010
  • OF OUR FRIENDS HAS HIM?
  • 00:09:50.010 --> 00:09:50.260
  • THEY WALK THROUGH
  • 00:09:50.260 --> 00:09:51.120
  • THE WHOLE CARAVAN.
  • 00:09:51.120 --> 00:09:51.260
  • NOBODY HAS JESUS.
  • 00:09:51.260 --> 00:09:53.180
  • THEY'D GONE FOR THE PASSOVER.
  • 00:09:54.150 --> 00:09:57.150
  • FALSE ASSUMPTIONS
  • 00:09:57.150 --> 00:09:59.180
  • THAT YOU ACTUALLY
  • 00:09:59.180 --> 00:10:00.180
  • BELIEVE IT'LL BE
  • 00:10:00.180 --> 00:10:01.160
  • SOMEBODY ELSE'S RESPONSIBILITY
  • 00:10:01.160 --> 00:10:03.270
  • TO MAKE SURE JESUS IS
  • 00:10:03.270 --> 00:10:05.050
  • IN THE CENTER OF YOUR HOME,
  • 00:10:05.050 --> 00:10:07.180
  • YOUR LIFE, YOUR FAMILY.
  • 00:10:07.180 --> 00:10:09.080
  • CAN YOU IMAGINE
  • 00:10:09.080 --> 00:10:10.130
  • HOW THE PARENTS FELT?
  • 00:10:10.130 --> 00:10:12.020
  • YOU KNOW WHAT IS ASTOUNDING
  • 00:10:12.020 --> 00:10:13.200
  • ABOUT JESUS' RESPONSE?
  • 00:10:13.200 --> 00:10:15.220
  • HIS MOTHER AND FATHER
  • 00:10:15.220 --> 00:10:18.010
  • COME TO HIM,
  • 00:10:18.010 --> 00:10:19.130
  • AND WHAT DOES HE SAY TO THEM?
  • 00:10:20.030 --> 00:10:23.030
  • DID YOU NOT KNOW I NEEDED TO BE
  • 00:10:23.030 --> 00:10:25.150
  • IN MY FATHER'S HOUSE?
  • 00:10:33.070 --> 00:10:36.070
  • THE PLACE OF WORSHIP HAD
  • 00:10:36.070 --> 00:10:38.090
  • BECOME A HANGOUT FOR CROOKS.
  • 00:10:39.110 --> 00:10:42.110
  • AND SO HE'S DEBATING
  • 00:10:42.110 --> 00:10:43.070
  • WITH THE DOCTORS OF THE LAW.
  • 00:10:43.070 --> 00:10:44.220
  • DIDN'T YOU KNOW --
  • 00:10:44.220 --> 00:10:45.150
  • DID YOU NOT KNOW I NEED TO BE
  • 00:10:45.150 --> 00:10:46.160
  • IN MY FATHER'S HOUSE?
  • 00:10:46.160 --> 00:10:47.260
  • AND THEN AS AN ADULT,
  • 00:10:47.260 --> 00:10:48.260
  • HE SAID YOU MADE MY HOUSE
  • 00:10:48.260 --> 00:10:50.280
  • A DEN OF CROOKS,
  • 00:10:50.280 --> 00:10:52.110
  • A DEN OF THIEVES.
  • 00:10:52.110 --> 00:10:54.240
  • LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, YOU KNOW,
  • 00:10:54.240 --> 00:10:56.230
  • I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU.
  • 00:10:57.030 --> 00:11:00.050
  • I WISH SOMETIMES I COULD NOW
  • 00:11:00.050 --> 00:11:01.270
  • SAY I'VE DONE MY PART.
  • 00:11:04.040 --> 00:11:07.040
  • I WISH SO BECAUSE
  • 00:11:07.040 --> 00:11:07.260
  • IT WOULD BE EASIER.
  • 00:11:07.260 --> 00:11:09.110
  • I COULD WRITE.
  • 00:11:09.110 --> 00:11:10.000
  • I COULD ENJOY NOT DOING
  • 00:11:10.000 --> 00:11:11.090
  • MANY THINGS THAT TRAVEL ENTAILS.
  • 00:11:11.090 --> 00:11:14.060
  • BUT I BELIEVE GOD HAS CALLED ME
  • 00:11:14.060 --> 00:11:15.290
  • TO HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY,
  • 00:11:15.290 --> 00:11:17.150
  • AND GOD HAS CALLED YOU TO
  • 00:11:17.150 --> 00:11:18.070
  • HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY.
  • 00:11:18.070 --> 00:11:19.250
  • PLEASE DON'T ASSUME
  • 00:11:19.250 --> 00:11:20.180
  • THAT IT'S SOMEBODY ELSE'S.
  • 00:11:21.000 --> 00:11:24.000
  • DON'T ASSUME THIS IS
  • 00:11:24.000 --> 00:11:25.070
  • SOMEBODY ELSE'S RESPONSIBILITY.
  • 00:11:25.070 --> 00:11:27.020
  • AND IF THERE'S ONE THING
  • 00:11:27.020 --> 00:11:27.250
  • I'D LIKE YOU TO DO --
  • 00:11:27.250 --> 00:11:28.260
  • AND THIS HAS GOT NOTHING
  • 00:11:28.260 --> 00:11:29.210
  • TO DO WITH RZIM.
  • 00:11:29.210 --> 00:11:30.190
  • IT'S GOT EVERYTHING TO DO
  • 00:11:30.190 --> 00:11:31.130
  • WITH YOUR RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD.
  • 00:11:31.130 --> 00:11:32.240
  • ASK HIM, WHAT IS THE LOAD
  • 00:11:32.240 --> 00:11:34.160
  • HE WANTS YOU TO LIGHTEN,
  • 00:11:34.160 --> 00:11:35.220
  • AND WHERE.
  • 00:11:35.220 --> 00:11:38.210
  • WHAT IS THE LOAD
  • 00:11:38.210 --> 00:11:39.130
  • HE WANTS YOU TO CARRY FOR HIM,
  • 00:11:39.130 --> 00:11:41.000
  • AND WHERE?
  • 00:11:41.000 --> 00:11:43.130
  • I THINK OF HOW EASY IT IS TO BE
  • 00:11:43.160 --> 00:11:46.160
  • AT THE PASSOVER AND LOSE JESUS.
  • 00:11:46.160 --> 00:11:48.150
  • TO BE IN THE TEMPLE OF GOD
  • 00:11:48.150 --> 00:11:49.180
  • AND LOSE THE LAW.
  • 00:11:49.180 --> 00:11:50.230
  • AND THEN THE THIRD SCENE IS
  • 00:11:50.230 --> 00:11:53.220
  • JOHN 18, THE MOST DEFINING
  • 00:11:54.020 --> 00:11:57.020
  • MOMENT OF POLITICAL POWER
  • 00:11:57.020 --> 00:11:58.250
  • GONE WRONG, WHEN HE LOOKS
  • 00:11:58.250 --> 00:12:01.010
  • AT JESUS, EYEBALL TO EYEBALL,
  • 00:12:01.010 --> 00:12:03.280
  • AND HE ASKS HIM
  • 00:12:03.280 --> 00:12:04.270
  • IF HE'S THE KING.
  • 00:12:04.270 --> 00:12:05.290
  • AND WHEN HE RECEIVED
  • 00:12:05.290 --> 00:12:06.180
  • THE ANSWER, HE DIDN'T LIKE IT.
  • 00:12:06.180 --> 00:12:09.080
  • AND HE LOOKS AT JESUS
  • 00:12:09.080 --> 00:12:09.280
  • AND SAYS -- WHEN JESUS SAYS
  • 00:12:09.280 --> 00:12:11.120
  • THAT DAY THAT ON THE SIDE
  • 00:12:11.120 --> 00:12:13.140
  • OF TRUTH, LISTEN TO HIM.
  • 00:12:13.140 --> 00:12:15.130
  • PILATE MADE THE ULTIMATE BLUNDER
  • 00:12:15.260 --> 00:12:18.260
  • OF LOOKING EYEBALL TO EYEBALL,
  • 00:12:18.260 --> 00:12:21.150
  • INTO THE EYES OF TRUTH,
  • 00:12:21.150 --> 00:12:23.080
  • SAYING WHAT IS TRUTH,
  • 00:12:23.080 --> 00:12:24.180
  • AND WALKED AWAY.
  • 00:12:25.070 --> 00:12:28.070
  • AND WALKED AWAY.
  • 00:12:28.070 --> 00:12:30.160
  • AT LEAST IF HE'D PAUSED
  • 00:12:30.160 --> 00:12:32.040
  • FOR A MOMENT TO ALLOW TO SEE
  • 00:12:32.040 --> 00:12:33.080
  • WHAT JESUS WOULD SAY --
  • 00:12:33.080 --> 00:12:34.100
  • HE DIDN'T.
  • 00:12:34.100 --> 00:12:35.240
  • WHAT IS TRUTH?
  • 00:12:35.240 --> 00:12:36.210
  • IT'S ALMOST LIKE
  • 00:12:36.210 --> 00:12:37.130
  • HE'S TEACHING JESUS,
  • 00:12:37.130 --> 00:12:39.100
  • YOU'VE GOT NOTHING TO SAY ME,
  • 00:12:39.100 --> 00:12:40.160
  • AND HE'S GONE.
  • 00:12:40.160 --> 00:12:41.030
  • POLITICAL POWER GONE WRONG.
  • 00:12:41.030 --> 00:12:42.130
  • ECCLESIASTICAL POWER GONE WRONG.
  • 00:12:42.130 --> 00:12:44.020
  • CEREMONY GONE WRONG.
  • 00:12:44.050 --> 00:12:47.050
  • SO WHAT DO PEOPLE DO?
  • 00:12:47.050 --> 00:12:49.240
  • THEY GO INTO A SPIRITUALITY MODE
  • 00:12:49.240 --> 00:12:52.000
  • WITH ALL THESE
  • 00:12:52.000 --> 00:12:52.180
  • ESOTERIC-SOUNDING WORDS.
  • 00:12:52.180 --> 00:12:54.060
  • ONE OF THE AUTHORS I QUOTED,
  • 00:12:54.060 --> 00:12:55.290
  • HER OWN LIFE GOT
  • 00:12:55.290 --> 00:12:56.230
  • TERRIBLY MESSED UP.
  • 00:12:56.230 --> 00:12:58.000
  • I READ SOME OF HER THOUGHTS.
  • 00:12:58.000 --> 00:12:59.110
  • HER OWN LIFE GOT
  • 00:12:59.110 --> 00:13:00.020
  • TERRIBLY MESSED UP.
  • 00:13:00.020 --> 00:13:01.010
  • THAT SPIRITUALITY THING
  • 00:13:01.010 --> 00:13:02.110
  • DIDN'T DO A THING FOR HER.
  • 00:13:02.110 --> 00:13:04.000
  • YOU SEE WHAT HAPPENED AFTER
  • 00:13:04.000 --> 00:13:05.040
  • MAHARISHI MAHESH YOGI DIED,
  • 00:13:05.040 --> 00:13:06.280
  • AND THE -- ALL THE LAWSUITS
  • 00:13:06.280 --> 00:13:08.240
  • THAT ENSUED.
  • 00:13:08.240 --> 00:13:09.230
  • PEOPLE GRABBING AFTER THIS,
  • 00:13:09.230 --> 00:13:10.230
  • AFTER THAT.
  • 00:13:10.230 --> 00:13:11.150
  • SAME THING HAPPENED
  • 00:13:11.150 --> 00:13:12.030
  • AFTER YOGANANDA DIED.
  • 00:13:12.030 --> 00:13:13.150
  • THE SAME THING HAS JUST
  • 00:13:13.150 --> 00:13:14.160
  • HAPPENED AFTER SAI BABA
  • 00:13:14.160 --> 00:13:16.030
  • HAS DIED IN BANGALORE.
  • 00:13:16.030 --> 00:13:17.160
  • THIS BILLION-DOLLAR EMPIRE
  • 00:13:17.160 --> 00:13:19.100
  • OF THIS MAN
  • 00:13:19.100 --> 00:13:20.120
  • WITH THAT HUGE HAIRDO.
  • 00:13:20.120 --> 00:13:21.260
  • MILLIONS OF FOLLOWERS
  • 00:13:21.260 --> 00:13:23.020
  • ALL OVER THE WORLD.
  • 00:13:23.020 --> 00:13:24.030
  • AND NOW THEY ARE FINDING OUT,
  • 00:13:24.030 --> 00:13:25.160
  • UNDER THE CARPET, ALL THAT WAS
  • 00:13:25.160 --> 00:13:27.260
  • MESSED UP PERSONALLY,
  • 00:13:27.260 --> 00:13:29.150
  • PRIVATELY, AND THE MONEY IS
  • 00:13:29.150 --> 00:13:31.040
  • BEING SQUABBLED OVER.
  • 00:13:31.040 --> 00:13:32.110
  • BANK ACCOUNTS ARE BEING FROZEN,
  • 00:13:32.110 --> 00:13:34.090
  • AND EVERYBODY'S LAYING CLAIM
  • 00:13:34.090 --> 00:13:35.090
  • TO THE MONEY.
  • 00:13:35.090 --> 00:13:36.040
  • THAT'S ALL THIS HAS
  • 00:13:36.040 --> 00:13:37.070
  • BECOME ABOUT.
  • 00:13:37.070 --> 00:13:40.070
  • IT'S NOT SPIRITUALITY.
  • 00:13:40.070 --> 00:13:42.000
  • IT'S THE MASS MARKETING
  • 00:13:42.000 --> 00:13:43.080
  • OF SPIRITUALITY.
  • 00:13:43.080 --> 00:13:45.180
  • YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU READ
  • 00:13:45.180 --> 00:13:46.180
  • THE LIFE OF OPRAH WINFREY
  • 00:13:46.180 --> 00:13:48.090
  • AND SEE THE POWER
  • 00:13:48.090 --> 00:13:49.130
  • IN HER EARLY DAYS,
  • 00:13:49.130 --> 00:13:50.220
  • SHE'D ALWAYS WRITE A WORD
  • 00:13:50.220 --> 00:13:51.180
  • ABOUT JESUS AND A VERSE
  • 00:13:51.180 --> 00:13:52.210
  • FROM THERE.
  • 00:13:52.210 --> 00:13:53.290
  • AND I'VE GIVEN A WHOLE CHAPTER
  • 00:13:53.290 --> 00:13:55.100
  • TO HER OWN INVOLVEMENT
  • 00:13:55.240 --> 00:13:58.240
  • IN WHAT HAPPENED
  • 00:13:58.240 --> 00:13:59.200
  • AS SHE SHAPED THE MEDIUM
  • 00:13:59.200 --> 00:14:00.280
  • AND THE MEDIUM SHAPED HER.
  • 00:14:01.070 --> 00:14:04.070
  • SHE SHAPED THE MEDIUM,
  • 00:14:04.070 --> 00:14:05.160
  • THEN THE MEDIUM SHAPED HER.
  • 00:14:05.160 --> 00:14:07.180
  • SHE WANTED TO BECOME A GODDESS.
  • 00:14:07.180 --> 00:14:09.160
  • SHE ASSUMED SHE WAS A GODDESS.
  • 00:14:09.160 --> 00:14:11.110
  • AND MILLIONS TODAY,
  • 00:14:11.110 --> 00:14:12.150
  • WITH HER PRONOUNCEMENT,
  • 00:14:12.150 --> 00:14:13.150
  • TAKE HER AT HER WORD.
  • 00:14:13.150 --> 00:14:15.030
  • AND YOU SAY TO YOURSELF,
  • 00:14:15.030 --> 00:14:16.160
  • IS THIS WHERE WE'RE AT?
  • 00:14:18.020 --> 00:14:21.020
  • IS THIS WHERE WE'RE AT?
  • 00:14:21.020 --> 00:14:23.040
  • I WANNA TAKE YOU TO THREE
  • 00:14:23.040 --> 00:14:24.260
  • CONCLUSIONS ABOUT THE GOSPEL.
  • 00:14:24.260 --> 00:14:27.170
  • THE NUMBER ONE CONCLUSION
  • 00:14:27.170 --> 00:14:28.100
  • IS THIS.
  • 00:14:28.100 --> 00:14:29.240
  • THAT THERE IS SOMETHING
  • 00:14:29.240 --> 00:14:30.220
  • SO UNIQUE ABOUT THE GOSPEL
  • 00:14:30.220 --> 00:14:32.200
  • OF JESUS CHRIST
  • 00:14:32.200 --> 00:14:34.060
  • THAT IS NOT FOUND ANYWHERE ELSE.
  • 00:14:34.160 --> 00:14:37.160
  • IN DECEMBER ---
  • 00:14:37.160 --> 00:14:38.240
  • PLEASE GIVE ME
  • 00:14:38.240 --> 00:14:39.110
  • YOUR UNDIVIDED ATTENTION.
  • 00:14:39.110 --> 00:14:40.090
  • I'M BRINGING THIS DOWN
  • 00:14:40.090 --> 00:14:40.290
  • TO A FUNNEL NOW.
  • 00:14:40.290 --> 00:14:43.110
  • IN DECEMBER OF 2008,
  • 00:14:43.110 --> 00:14:45.190
  • A RANK ATHEIST,
  • 00:14:45.190 --> 00:14:47.210
  • AND A MAN WHO CHOSE
  • 00:14:47.210 --> 00:14:48.130
  • TO LIVE A RATHER
  • 00:14:48.130 --> 00:14:49.220
  • PERSONALLY SENSUOUS LIFESTYLE --
  • 00:14:50.190 --> 00:14:53.190
  • HIS NAME IS MATTHEW PARRIS.
  • 00:14:53.190 --> 00:14:55.040
  • HE WENT TO AFRICA
  • 00:14:55.040 --> 00:14:56.060
  • BECAUSE ONE OF HIS YOUNG BOY'S
  • 00:14:56.060 --> 00:14:57.170
  • PARENTS WERE THERE.
  • 00:14:57.170 --> 00:14:58.280
  • AND HE WENT AND SAW A TINY
  • 00:14:58.280 --> 00:14:59.290
  • MISSIONARY MOVEMENT CALLED
  • 00:14:59.290 --> 00:15:01.160
  • THE PUMP FUND
  • 00:15:01.160 --> 00:15:02.100
  • OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
  • 00:15:02.100 --> 00:15:03.170
  • PUMP PROJECT.
  • 00:15:03.170 --> 00:15:04.290
  • AND HE TOOK A LOOK AT SOME
  • 00:15:04.290 --> 00:15:05.280
  • MISSIONARIES THERE.
  • 00:15:05.280 --> 00:15:07.110
  • THEY SO OVERWHELMED HIM
  • 00:15:07.110 --> 00:15:09.090
  • WITH THEIR LIVES, HE SAID,
  • 00:15:09.090 --> 00:15:12.010
  • "I COULDN'T BELIEVE
  • 00:15:12.010 --> 00:15:13.120
  • SUCH DEEPLY DEDICATED PEOPLE."
  • 00:15:13.260 --> 00:15:16.260
  • AND HE WROTE AN ARTICLE
  • 00:15:16.260 --> 00:15:18.110
  • THAT MONTH.
  • 00:15:18.110 --> 00:15:19.120
  • LISTEN TO WHAT THIS ATHEIST
  • 00:15:19.120 --> 00:15:21.200
  • ACTUALLY HAS TO SAY.
  • 00:15:21.200 --> 00:15:24.180
  • "I WENT TO SEE THIS WORK.
  • 00:15:24.180 --> 00:15:26.090
  • IT INSPIRED ME.
  • 00:15:26.090 --> 00:15:27.260
  • RENEWING MY FLAGGING-FAITH
  • 00:15:27.260 --> 00:15:29.100
  • IN DEVELOPMENT CHARITIES,
  • 00:15:29.100 --> 00:15:30.280
  • BUT TRAVELING IN MALA
  • 00:15:30.280 --> 00:15:32.140
  • WE REFRESHED ANOTHER BELIEF TOO.
  • 00:15:32.140 --> 00:15:33.240
  • ONE I'VE BEEN TRYING
  • 00:15:33.240 --> 00:15:34.140
  • TO BANISH ALL MY LIFE.
  • 00:15:34.140 --> 00:15:36.250
  • IT CONFOUNDS
  • 00:15:36.250 --> 00:15:37.150
  • MY IDEOLOGICAL BELIEFS,
  • 00:15:37.150 --> 00:15:39.250
  • AND STUBBORNLY REFUSES
  • 00:15:39.250 --> 00:15:40.280
  • TO FIT MY OWN WORLD VIEW.
  • 00:15:40.280 --> 00:15:42.220
  • IT HAS EMBARRASSED
  • 00:15:42.220 --> 00:15:43.130
  • MY GROWING BELIEF
  • 00:15:43.130 --> 00:15:45.020
  • THAT THERE IS NO GOD.
  • 00:15:45.020 --> 00:15:46.200
  • NOW AS A CONFIRMED ATHEIST,
  • 00:15:46.200 --> 00:15:48.180
  • I'M CONVINCED
  • 00:15:48.180 --> 00:15:49.210
  • OF THE ENORMOUS CONTRIBUTION
  • 00:15:49.210 --> 00:15:51.020
  • THAT CHRISTIAN EVANGELISM
  • 00:15:51.020 --> 00:15:52.250
  • MAKES IN AFRICA;
  • 00:15:52.250 --> 00:15:54.140
  • SHARPLY DISTINCT
  • 00:15:54.140 --> 00:15:55.270
  • FROM ANY SECULAR NGO'S.
  • 00:15:55.270 --> 00:15:57.170
  • EDUCATION AND TRAINING ALONE
  • 00:15:57.170 --> 00:15:59.010
  • WILL NOT DO.
  • 00:15:59.010 --> 00:15:59.250
  • IN AFRICA, CHRISTIANITY
  • 00:15:59.250 --> 00:16:01.010
  • IS CHANGING PEOPLE'S HEARTS.
  • 00:16:01.010 --> 00:16:03.070
  • THAT'S WHAT IT'S GOING
  • 00:16:03.070 --> 00:16:04.060
  • TO TAKE.
  • 00:16:04.060 --> 00:16:04.170
  • IT BRINGS A TRANSFORMATION,
  • 00:16:04.170 --> 00:16:06.100
  • AND THIS REBIRTH IS REAL.
  • 00:16:06.100 --> 00:16:09.090
  • THERE'S LONG BEEN A FASHION
  • 00:16:09.090 --> 00:16:10.040
  • AMONG WESTERN ACADEMIC
  • 00:16:10.040 --> 00:16:11.020
  • SOCIOLOGIST FOR PLACING
  • 00:16:11.020 --> 00:16:12.030
  • TRIBAL VALUE SYSTEMS
  • 00:16:12.030 --> 00:16:13.000
  • WITHIN A RINGED FENCED BEYOND
  • 00:16:13.000 --> 00:16:15.060
  • CRITIQUES FOUNDED IN THEIR'S,
  • 00:16:15.060 --> 00:16:17.050
  • AND THEREFORE WHAT'S BEST
  • 00:16:17.050 --> 00:16:17.270
  • FOR THEM; AUTHENTIC OF
  • 00:16:17.270 --> 00:16:19.200
  • AND OF INTRINSICALLY EQUAL
  • 00:16:19.200 --> 00:16:21.050
  • WORTH TO OURS.
  • 00:16:21.050 --> 00:16:22.030
  • I DON'T FOLLOW THIS.
  • 00:16:22.030 --> 00:16:24.170
  • I OBSERVED THAT TRIBAL BELIEF
  • 00:16:24.170 --> 00:16:25.230
  • IS NO MORE PEACEABLE THEN OURS
  • 00:16:25.230 --> 00:16:27.120
  • AND THAT IT SUPPRESSES
  • 00:16:27.120 --> 00:16:28.050
  • INDIVIDUALITY.
  • 00:16:28.050 --> 00:16:29.170
  • PEOPLE THINK COLLECTIVELY.
  • 00:16:29.170 --> 00:16:31.040
  • THIS FEEDS INTO THE BIG MAN
  • 00:16:31.040 --> 00:16:32.170
  • AND GANGSTER POLITICS
  • 00:16:32.170 --> 00:16:33.230
  • OF THE AFRICAN CITY;
  • 00:16:33.230 --> 00:16:34.270
  • THE EXAGGERATED RESPECT
  • 00:16:34.270 --> 00:16:36.100
  • FOR THE SWAGGERING LEADER
  • 00:16:36.100 --> 00:16:37.220
  • AND THE LITERAL INABILITY
  • 00:16:37.220 --> 00:16:38.280
  • TO UNDERSTAND THE WHOLE IDEA
  • 00:16:38.280 --> 00:16:40.100
  • OF LOYAL OPPOSITION.
  • 00:16:40.100 --> 00:16:42.010
  • ANXIETY, FEAR OF SPIRITS,
  • 00:16:42.010 --> 00:16:44.010
  • AND ANCESTORS,
  • 00:16:44.020 --> 00:16:47.020
  • AND OF NATURE
  • 00:16:47.020 --> 00:16:47.160
  • AND WILD STRIKES DEEP
  • 00:16:47.160 --> 00:16:48.140
  • INTO THE WHOLE STRUCTURE
  • 00:16:48.140 --> 00:16:49.150
  • OF RURAL AFRICAN THOUGHT.
  • 00:16:49.150 --> 00:16:50.280
  • A GREAT WEIGHT GRINDS DOWN
  • 00:16:50.280 --> 00:16:52.230
  • THE SPIRIT OF THE PEOPLE,
  • 00:16:52.230 --> 00:16:55.150
  • BUT CHRISTIANITY WITH
  • 00:16:55.150 --> 00:16:57.110
  • IT'S TEACHING OF A DIRECT
  • 00:16:57.110 --> 00:16:58.070
  • PERSONAL TWO WAY LINK
  • 00:16:58.070 --> 00:16:59.130
  • BETWEEN THE INDIVIDUAL
  • 00:16:59.130 --> 00:17:00.090
  • AND GOD, UNMEDIATED
  • 00:17:00.090 --> 00:17:01.140
  • BY THE COLLECTIVE
  • 00:17:01.140 --> 00:17:02.000
  • AND INSUBORDINATE
  • 00:17:02.000 --> 00:17:02.240
  • TO ANY OTHER HUMAN BEING
  • 00:17:02.240 --> 00:17:03.160
  • SMASHES STRAIGHT THROUGH
  • 00:17:03.160 --> 00:17:05.110
  • THE PHILOSOPHICAL SPIRITUAL
  • 00:17:05.110 --> 00:17:06.060
  • FRAMEWORK I'VE JUST DESCRIBED.
  • 00:17:06.060 --> 00:17:08.150
  • THOSE WHO WANT AFRICA TO WALK
  • 00:17:08.150 --> 00:17:09.180
  • TALL AMONG THE 21ST CENTURY
  • 00:17:09.180 --> 00:17:10.250
  • GLOBAL COMPETITION
  • 00:17:10.250 --> 00:17:11.290
  • MUST NOT KID THEMSELVES.
  • 00:17:12.070 --> 00:17:15.070
  • THAT PROVIDING THE MATERIAL
  • 00:17:15.070 --> 00:17:16.140
  • MEANS OR EVEN THE KNOW-HOW
  • 00:17:16.140 --> 00:17:17.200
  • THAT ACCOMPANIES WHAT
  • 00:17:17.200 --> 00:17:18.210
  • WE CALL DEVELOPMENT WILL MAKE
  • 00:17:18.210 --> 00:17:19.220
  • THAT CHANGE.
  • 00:17:19.220 --> 00:17:20.090
  • NO!
  • 00:17:20.090 --> 00:17:21.220
  • A WHOLE BELIEF SYSTEM
  • 00:17:21.220 --> 00:17:23.050
  • HAS TO BE CHANGED
  • 00:17:23.050 --> 00:17:24.250
  • AND I'M AFRAID IT HAS TO BE
  • 00:17:24.250 --> 00:17:26.200
  • SUPPLANTED BY ANOTHER.
  • 00:17:26.200 --> 00:17:28.020
  • REMOVING CHRISTIAN EVANGELISM
  • 00:17:28.020 --> 00:17:30.280
  • FROM THE AFRICAN EQUATION
  • 00:17:30.280 --> 00:17:33.020
  • MAY LEAVE THE CONTINENT
  • 00:17:33.020 --> 00:17:35.090
  • AT THE MERCY
  • 00:17:35.090 --> 00:17:35.200
  • OF A MOLINE FUSION OF NIKE,
  • 00:17:35.200 --> 00:17:38.110
  • THE WITCH DOCTOR,
  • 00:17:38.110 --> 00:17:38.240
  • THE MOBILE PHONE,
  • 00:17:38.240 --> 00:17:40.070
  • AND THE MACHETE."
  • 00:17:41.150 --> 00:17:44.150
  • WOW.
  • 00:17:44.150 --> 00:17:47.050
  • FROM AN ATHEIST:
  • 00:17:47.140 --> 00:17:50.140
  • CHRISTIAN CONVERSION.
  • 00:17:53.140 --> 00:17:56.140
  • DO YOU BELIEVE THAT?
  • 00:17:57.160 --> 00:18:00.180
  • DO YOU BELIEVE THAT?
  • 00:18:00.180 --> 00:18:02.040
  • THE WHOLE WAY OF THINKING
  • 00:18:02.040 --> 00:18:04.060
  • HAS TO BE CHANGED.
  • 00:18:04.060 --> 00:18:07.060
  • I LOVE IT WHEN I HEAR
  • 00:18:07.060 --> 00:18:08.040
  • MY COLLEAGUES SPEAK
  • 00:18:08.040 --> 00:18:09.170
  • BECAUSE THERE'S SUCH BEAUTY
  • 00:18:09.170 --> 00:18:10.270
  • IN WHAT THEY SAY.
  • 00:18:10.270 --> 00:18:12.190
  • I WON'T EVEN NAME SOME OF THEM,
  • 00:18:12.190 --> 00:18:13.250
  • BUT I HEAR THEM SAYING IT AGAIN,
  • 00:18:13.250 --> 00:18:14.290
  • AND AGAIN, AND AGAIN.
  • 00:18:15.040 --> 00:18:18.040
  • THAT THIS TRANSFORMATION
  • 00:18:18.040 --> 00:18:19.180
  • THAT CHRIST BRINGS.
  • 00:18:19.180 --> 00:18:21.160
  • I HEAR THEM IN THEIR TAPES,
  • 00:18:21.160 --> 00:18:22.250
  • READ IT IN THEIR BOOKS.
  • 00:18:22.250 --> 00:18:24.040
  • I WAS IN WASHINGTON
  • 00:18:24.040 --> 00:18:26.180
  • AND SITTING DOWN
  • 00:18:26.180 --> 00:18:27.290
  • WHEN WE WERE ALL THERE
  • 00:18:27.290 --> 00:18:28.280
  • LISTENING TO MICHAEL
  • 00:18:28.280 --> 00:18:29.160
  • SPEAK AT GEORGETOWN,
  • 00:18:29.160 --> 00:18:31.040
  • AND HE PRESENTED THE GOSPEL
  • 00:18:31.040 --> 00:18:31.240
  • THAT NIGHT VERY CLEARLY.
  • 00:18:31.240 --> 00:18:34.050
  • VERY CLEARLY.
  • 00:18:34.050 --> 00:18:34.280
  • SPOKE FROM THE BOOK OF JUDE.
  • 00:18:34.280 --> 00:18:37.230
  • THE CHANGED HEART,
  • 00:18:37.230 --> 00:18:38.280
  • THE TRANSFORMED HEART,
  • 00:18:38.280 --> 00:18:41.030
  • THAT'S WHAT IT IS.
  • 00:18:41.030 --> 00:18:43.030
  • SPIRITUALITY WILL NOT DO
  • 00:18:43.030 --> 00:18:44.040
  • THAT FOR YOU.
  • 00:18:44.040 --> 00:18:46.010
  • THERE'S A SECOND THING,
  • 00:18:46.010 --> 00:18:47.030
  • AND THAT IS THIS.
  • 00:18:47.030 --> 00:18:49.050
  • CHRIST'S PRESENCE OUTSIDE
  • 00:18:49.050 --> 00:18:51.010
  • OF YOURSELF
  • 00:18:51.010 --> 00:18:52.010
  • WILL BRING YOU THE MYSTICAL,
  • 00:18:52.010 --> 00:18:53.210
  • BUT IT IS NOT ENOUGH IN
  • 00:18:53.210 --> 00:18:55.000
  • AND OF ITSELF.
  • 00:18:55.000 --> 00:18:55.270
  • AND THEN I'LL CLOSE
  • 00:18:55.270 --> 00:18:56.140
  • WITH MY LAST THOUGHT.
  • 00:18:56.140 --> 00:18:58.290
  • MANY OF YOU KNOW THAT ONE
  • 00:18:58.290 --> 00:19:01.010
  • OF MY GOOD FRIENDS PASSED AWAY
  • 00:19:01.010 --> 00:19:03.060
  • THIS YEAR, NICK CHARLES.
  • 00:19:03.060 --> 00:19:06.030
  • NICK WAS EXACTLY MY AGE.
  • 00:19:06.030 --> 00:19:08.040
  • FIFTEEN -- 17 YEARS AGO,
  • 00:19:08.040 --> 00:19:09.290
  • I MET NICK CHARLES.
  • 00:19:09.290 --> 00:19:10.260
  • I WAS SPEAKING IN ATLANTA.
  • 00:19:10.260 --> 00:19:12.120
  • I DIDN'T KNOW WHO HE WAS.
  • 00:19:12.120 --> 00:19:13.070
  • I HAD NOT WATCHED MUCH
  • 00:19:13.070 --> 00:19:14.070
  • OF THE NIGHT SPORTS PROGRAMS,
  • 00:19:14.070 --> 00:19:15.140
  • BUT HE WAS QUITE A BIG ICON.
  • 00:19:15.140 --> 00:19:17.050
  • HANDSOME-LOOKING GUY.
  • 00:19:17.050 --> 00:19:18.140
  • BIG MOP OF HAIR
  • 00:19:18.140 --> 00:19:19.080
  • AND GREEK ANCESTRY,
  • 00:19:19.080 --> 00:19:21.010
  • HANDSOME FEATURES.
  • 00:19:21.010 --> 00:19:22.080
  • HE WAS QUITE THE PLAYBOY,
  • 00:19:22.080 --> 00:19:23.150
  • IN HIS OWN WORDS.
  • 00:19:23.150 --> 00:19:24.280
  • HE SAID RAVI,
  • 00:19:24.280 --> 00:19:25.220
  • I'VE JUST RUN THE MILL.
  • 00:19:25.220 --> 00:19:27.100
  • A LITTLE BIT
  • 00:19:27.100 --> 00:19:27.290
  • LIKE SANGE SAID YESTERDAY.
  • 00:19:27.290 --> 00:19:28.260
  • AND HE SAID I'VE DONE IT ALL.
  • 00:19:28.260 --> 00:19:30.130
  • HE SAID I'M A MESS.
  • 00:19:30.130 --> 00:19:31.220
  • HELP ME.
  • 00:19:31.220 --> 00:19:33.090
  • SO WE GOT TALKING.
  • 00:19:33.090 --> 00:19:34.120
  • WE CAME -- HE'S ONE
  • 00:19:34.120 --> 00:19:35.000
  • OF THE FEW PEOPLE I ACTUALLY
  • 00:19:35.000 --> 00:19:35.220
  • DEVOTED A SPECIFIC AMOUNT
  • 00:19:35.220 --> 00:19:37.040
  • OF TIME TO.
  • 00:19:37.040 --> 00:19:37.250
  • QUITE A BIT.
  • 00:19:37.250 --> 00:19:38.230
  • HE BECAME QUITE CLOSE
  • 00:19:38.230 --> 00:19:39.110
  • TO OUR FAMILY.
  • 00:19:39.110 --> 00:19:41.120
  • AND SOME YEARS AGO
  • 00:19:41.120 --> 00:19:42.060
  • WHEN HE WANTED TO GET MARRIED,
  • 00:19:42.060 --> 00:19:43.020
  • I OFFICIATED AT HIS WEDDING
  • 00:19:43.020 --> 00:19:45.190
  • TO CORY AZUMBRADO,
  • 00:19:45.190 --> 00:19:48.060
  • WHO IS A LOVELY GAL.
  • 00:19:48.060 --> 00:19:50.100
  • SHE'S A PRODUCER WITH CNN.
  • 00:19:50.100 --> 00:19:52.110
  • A FEW YEAR AGO,
  • 00:19:52.110 --> 00:19:53.100
  • THEY WERE HAVING
  • 00:19:53.100 --> 00:19:53.240
  • DIFFICULTY DECIDING
  • 00:19:53.240 --> 00:19:54.220
  • WHETHER TO HAVE A CHILD,
  • 00:19:54.220 --> 00:19:55.160
  • AND THEY CAME AND TALKED TO ME,
  • 00:19:55.160 --> 00:19:56.240
  • AND WE HAD A CONVERSATION.
  • 00:19:56.240 --> 00:19:58.040
  • AND WONDERFULLY,
  • 00:19:58.040 --> 00:19:59.110
  • THEY DECIDED TO HAVE A BABY,
  • 00:19:59.110 --> 00:20:01.130
  • AND A BEAUTIFUL LITTLE GIRL,
  • 00:20:01.130 --> 00:20:02.090
  • GIOVANNA, WAS BORN.
  • 00:20:02.090 --> 00:20:03.100
  • SHE'S ABOUT FIVE.
  • 00:20:03.100 --> 00:20:05.150
  • ABOUT A LITTLE OVER
  • 00:20:05.150 --> 00:20:06.120
  • TWO YEARS AGO,
  • 00:20:06.120 --> 00:20:07.030
  • NICK PHONED ME IN ATLANTA.
  • 00:20:07.030 --> 00:20:08.040
  • HE SAID CAN I HAVE LUNCH?
  • 00:20:08.040 --> 00:20:10.190
  • I SAID SURE, NICK.
  • 00:20:10.190 --> 00:20:11.260
  • WE WENT OUT AND HAD LUNCH.
  • 00:20:11.260 --> 00:20:12.260
  • HE WAS SITTING RIGHT
  • 00:20:12.260 --> 00:20:13.140
  • IN THE TABLE IN FRONT.
  • 00:20:13.140 --> 00:20:14.120
  • I DIDN'T RECOGNIZE HIM.
  • 00:20:14.120 --> 00:20:15.260
  • HE SAID RAVI?
  • 00:20:15.260 --> 00:20:18.070
  • I LOOKED AT HIM.
  • 00:20:18.070 --> 00:20:19.170
  • I WAS SHOCKED.
  • 00:20:19.170 --> 00:20:20.010
  • SHOCKED.
  • 00:20:20.010 --> 00:20:22.010
  • HIS HAIR WAS GONE,
  • 00:20:22.010 --> 00:20:23.040
  • HIS SKELETAL-LOOKING FACE
  • 00:20:23.040 --> 00:20:24.280
  • AND I SAT DOWN.
  • 00:20:24.280 --> 00:20:25.260
  • AND HE SAID MAN,
  • 00:20:25.260 --> 00:20:26.170
  • I'M DYING OF CANCER.
  • 00:20:26.170 --> 00:20:28.290
  • DYING OF CANCER.
  • 00:20:28.290 --> 00:20:30.260
  • I'VE BEEN GIVEN
  • 00:20:30.260 --> 00:20:31.120
  • 20 MONTHS TO LIVE.
  • 00:20:31.120 --> 00:20:32.180
  • I'VE TOLD THEM TO USE
  • 00:20:32.180 --> 00:20:33.140
  • THEIR BIGGEST GUNS
  • 00:20:33.140 --> 00:20:34.150
  • AND HELP ME GET RID OF THIS.
  • 00:20:34.150 --> 00:20:36.040
  • I CRIED.
  • 00:20:36.040 --> 00:20:37.050
  • SITTING IN FRONT OF NICK,
  • 00:20:37.050 --> 00:20:38.070
  • I COULDN'T BELIEVE
  • 00:20:38.070 --> 00:20:38.200
  • WHAT I WAS SEEING.
  • 00:20:38.200 --> 00:20:40.040
  • HE WANTED TO LIVE IN SANTA FE,
  • 00:20:40.040 --> 00:20:42.030
  • AND HE DECIDED TO BUILD
  • 00:20:42.030 --> 00:20:42.270
  • A HOME THERE.
  • 00:20:42.270 --> 00:20:44.190
  • BEAUTIFUL HOME.
  • 00:20:44.190 --> 00:20:45.010
  • HE SAID I KNOW I'M DYING,
  • 00:20:45.010 --> 00:20:45.230
  • BUT I WANT MY WIFE
  • 00:20:45.230 --> 00:20:46.130
  • AND DAUGHTER TO HAVE A PLACE,
  • 00:20:46.130 --> 00:20:47.170
  • AND I'M GONNA DO IT.
  • 00:20:47.230 --> 00:20:50.230
  • SO THEY MOVED TO SANTA FE,
  • 00:20:50.230 --> 00:20:51.290
  • AND HE WAS IN TOUCH WITH ME.
  • 00:20:51.290 --> 00:20:53.110
  • I WAS ABOUT TO BEGIN
  • 00:20:53.110 --> 00:20:54.010
  • A SEVEN-WEEK TOUR,
  • 00:20:54.010 --> 00:20:55.070
  • AND HE SAID WILL YOU COME
  • 00:20:55.070 --> 00:20:57.000
  • AND VISIT ME ONE LAST TIME?
  • 00:20:57.000 --> 00:20:58.000
  • BECAUSE I DON'T THINK
  • 00:20:58.000 --> 00:20:58.160
  • I'LL BE AROUND
  • 00:20:58.160 --> 00:20:59.010
  • WHEN YOU FINISH THIS TRIP.
  • 00:20:59.010 --> 00:21:01.010
  • SO MARGIE AND I FLEW
  • 00:21:01.010 --> 00:21:01.250
  • TO SANTA FE.
  • 00:21:01.250 --> 00:21:04.190
  • WHEN I WALKED INTO THE ROOM,
  • 00:21:04.190 --> 00:21:06.180
  • IT WAS LIKE HIS BODY WAS
  • 00:21:06.180 --> 00:21:07.260
  • ON A VIBRATOR.
  • 00:21:07.260 --> 00:21:09.080
  • IT WAS LIKE THIS,
  • 00:21:09.080 --> 00:21:09.280
  • BUT IT WAS JUST
  • 00:21:09.280 --> 00:21:10.150
  • COMPLETELY OUT OF WHACK.
  • 00:21:10.150 --> 00:21:12.070
  • THERE WAS A NURSE SITTING THERE
  • 00:21:12.070 --> 00:21:13.030
  • TRYING TO GRAB HIS ARM,
  • 00:21:13.030 --> 00:21:14.060
  • AND HE WAS -- THE MALE NURSE
  • 00:21:14.060 --> 00:21:15.230
  • WAS TRYING TO GET
  • 00:21:15.230 --> 00:21:16.100
  • SOMETHING INTO HIM.
  • 00:21:16.100 --> 00:21:17.240
  • HE CALLED ME OVER,
  • 00:21:17.240 --> 00:21:18.290
  • AND HE WANTED TO GRAB MY HAND.
  • 00:21:18.290 --> 00:21:20.020
  • HE JUST GRABBED MY HAND,
  • 00:21:20.020 --> 00:21:20.260
  • AND IT WAS JUST GOING LIKE THIS.
  • 00:21:20.260 --> 00:21:23.180
  • I PRAYED WITH HIM.
  • 00:21:23.180 --> 00:21:24.140
  • HE LOOKED PATHETIC.
  • 00:21:24.140 --> 00:21:26.100
  • GRADUALLY HE CALMED DOWN.
  • 00:21:26.100 --> 00:21:29.030
  • HE SAID I'M SO SORRY.
  • 00:21:29.030 --> 00:21:30.000
  • I'M REALLY SO SORRY.
  • 00:21:30.000 --> 00:21:32.090
  • HE SAID SIT DOWN HERE.
  • 00:21:32.260 --> 00:21:35.260
  • AND HE SAID PLEASE PRAY
  • 00:21:35.260 --> 00:21:36.210
  • FOR ME AGAIN, YOU KNOW?
  • 00:21:36.210 --> 00:21:38.240
  • SO I STOOD UP SO THAT
  • 00:21:38.240 --> 00:21:40.020
  • I COULD HOLD
  • 00:21:40.020 --> 00:21:40.140
  • HIS HAND COMFORTABLY.
  • 00:21:40.140 --> 00:21:42.090
  • AND AS I WAS STANDING UP
  • 00:21:42.090 --> 00:21:43.170
  • TO HOLD HIS HAND,
  • 00:21:43.170 --> 00:21:44.120
  • AND THE MALE NURSE
  • 00:21:44.120 --> 00:21:45.050
  • SITTING ON THE OTHER SIDE
  • 00:21:45.050 --> 00:21:45.290
  • OF THE BED, HIS WIFE CORY
  • 00:21:46.010 --> 00:21:49.010
  • WITH HER ARM
  • 00:21:49.010 --> 00:21:49.260
  • AROUND MARGIE THERE,
  • 00:21:49.260 --> 00:21:50.290
  • HIS LITTLE DAUGHTER
  • 00:21:50.290 --> 00:21:51.130
  • TRYING TO KEEP HERSELF BUSY,
  • 00:21:51.130 --> 00:21:53.040
  • HIS DOG CAME OVER.
  • 00:21:53.040 --> 00:21:54.270
  • A LABRADOODLE -- BIG GUY.
  • 00:21:54.270 --> 00:21:56.280
  • NUZZLED AGAINST MY LEGS
  • 00:21:56.280 --> 00:21:58.180
  • THERE QUIETLY
  • 00:21:58.180 --> 00:21:59.160
  • AND WITH HIS CHIN ON HIS BED.
  • 00:21:59.160 --> 00:22:02.030
  • AND I HELD HIS HAND
  • 00:22:02.030 --> 00:22:03.040
  • AND PRAYED FOR HIM.
  • 00:22:03.040 --> 00:22:05.200
  • AND AFTER IT WAS ALL OVER,
  • 00:22:05.200 --> 00:22:06.170
  • HE SAID PLEASE,
  • 00:22:06.170 --> 00:22:07.080
  • LET'S GO OUT FOR DINNER.
  • 00:22:07.080 --> 00:22:08.050
  • I SAID NICK, YOU CAN'T DO IT.
  • 00:22:08.050 --> 00:22:09.060
  • HE SAID I WANNA DO IT.
  • 00:22:09.060 --> 00:22:10.140
  • LET'S DO IT.
  • 00:22:10.140 --> 00:22:11.180
  • SOMEHOW GOT HIS CLOTHES ON,
  • 00:22:11.180 --> 00:22:12.260
  • AND WE WENT OUT,
  • 00:22:12.260 --> 00:22:13.240
  • AND WE'RE SITTING,
  • 00:22:13.240 --> 00:22:14.100
  • FOUR OF US, FOR DINNER
  • 00:22:14.100 --> 00:22:15.120
  • IN A COUNTRY CLUB
  • 00:22:15.120 --> 00:22:16.020
  • THAT HE BELONGED TO.
  • 00:22:16.020 --> 00:22:16.270
  • AND HERE'S A CNN SPORTSCASTER,
  • 00:22:16.270 --> 00:22:19.060
  • BIG SUCCESS STORY, NOW DYING.
  • 00:22:19.060 --> 00:22:21.280
  • HE'D COME TO KNOW CHRIST,
  • 00:22:21.280 --> 00:22:23.020
  • AND HIS LIFE HAD BEEN
  • 00:22:23.020 --> 00:22:23.260
  • SO RADICALLY TRANSFORMED.
  • 00:22:23.260 --> 00:22:25.040
  • HE LOOKED AT ME, AND HE SAID
  • 00:22:25.040 --> 00:22:26.000
  • CAN I TELL YOU SOMETHING?
  • 00:22:26.000 --> 00:22:28.110
  • HE SAID A FEW WEEKS AGO,
  • 00:22:28.110 --> 00:22:30.110
  • I WAS LYING IN BED,
  • 00:22:30.110 --> 00:22:31.230
  • MY LITTLE GIRL NEXT TO ME,
  • 00:22:31.230 --> 00:22:32.160
  • AND MY WIFE.
  • 00:22:32.160 --> 00:22:33.140
  • AND HE SAID I WAS IN SUCH PAIN.
  • 00:22:33.140 --> 00:22:34.130
  • I SAID ALRIGHT, JESUS, ENOUGH.
  • 00:22:34.130 --> 00:22:35.240
  • IT'S ENOUGH.
  • 00:22:35.240 --> 00:22:36.290
  • ENOUGH.
  • 00:22:36.290 --> 00:22:38.190
  • CAN I COME HOME TONIGHT, PLEASE?
  • 00:22:38.190 --> 00:22:40.270
  • TAKE ME HOME.
  • 00:22:40.270 --> 00:22:42.130
  • HE SAID MY WIFE AND DAUGHTER
  • 00:22:42.130 --> 00:22:43.130
  • WERE SOUND ASLEEP,
  • 00:22:43.130 --> 00:22:44.220
  • AND I PROPPED MY HEAD UP
  • 00:22:44.220 --> 00:22:45.160
  • ON THE PILLOW,
  • 00:22:45.160 --> 00:22:46.060
  • AND I WAS CRYING,
  • 00:22:46.060 --> 00:22:46.290
  • PLEASE TAKE ME HOME TONIGHT.
  • 00:22:46.290 --> 00:22:48.180
  • HE SAID RAVI, A LIGHT SHONE
  • 00:22:48.180 --> 00:22:49.260
  • IN THE CORNER OF THE ROOM,
  • 00:22:49.260 --> 00:22:52.250
  • AND A PERSON I'VE ALWAYS
  • 00:22:52.250 --> 00:22:53.280
  • PICTURED THE WAY JESUS
  • 00:22:53.280 --> 00:22:55.100
  • WOULD PROBABLY BE
  • 00:22:55.100 --> 00:22:57.070
  • WALKED OVER TOWARDS ME,
  • 00:22:57.110 --> 00:23:00.130
  • AND HELD MY HAND
  • 00:23:00.130 --> 00:23:01.120
  • THE WAY YOU DID IT TODAY.
  • 00:23:01.120 --> 00:23:03.010
  • AND HE SAID NICK,
  • 00:23:03.010 --> 00:23:04.040
  • I'LL TAKE YOU HOME,
  • 00:23:04.040 --> 00:23:05.250
  • BUT NOT TONIGHT.
  • 00:23:05.250 --> 00:23:08.100
  • AT THE RIGHT TIME,
  • 00:23:08.100 --> 00:23:08.260
  • I'LL TAKE YOU HOME.
  • 00:23:08.260 --> 00:23:11.240
  • HE SAID MY BROTHER, I HAVE
  • 00:23:11.240 --> 00:23:13.170
  • NOT FRETTED SINCE THAT DAY.
  • 00:23:13.170 --> 00:23:15.160
  • WHEN THE RIGHT TIME COMES,
  • 00:23:15.160 --> 00:23:16.140
  • HE WILL TAKE ME HOME.
  • 00:23:17.030 --> 00:23:20.030
  • I WAS TRAVELING OVERSEAS,
  • 00:23:20.030 --> 00:23:22.000
  • AND A CNN PRODUCER PHONED ME.
  • 00:23:22.000 --> 00:23:24.070
  • HE SAID I'M WRITING
  • 00:23:24.070 --> 00:23:25.060
  • A STORY ON NICK.
  • 00:23:25.060 --> 00:23:26.130
  • THOUSANDS OF HIS FANS
  • 00:23:26.130 --> 00:23:27.000
  • WERE WRITING,
  • 00:23:27.000 --> 00:23:27.150
  • AND TENS OF THOUSANDS.
  • 00:23:27.190 --> 00:23:30.190
  • [CLEARS THROAT]
  • 00:23:30.190 --> 00:23:31.100
  • HE SAID RAVI,
  • 00:23:31.100 --> 00:23:32.160
  • DID HE TELL YOU THE STORY
  • 00:23:32.160 --> 00:23:33.140
  • ABOUT THIS VISION AND ALL?
  • 00:23:33.140 --> 00:23:35.150
  • I SAID YEAH.
  • 00:23:35.150 --> 00:23:36.130
  • HE SAID WHAT DO YOU THINK OF IT?
  • 00:23:36.130 --> 00:23:37.270
  • I SAID WHAT DO YOU THINK OF IT,
  • 00:23:37.270 --> 00:23:38.270
  • CRAIG?
  • 00:23:38.270 --> 00:23:40.040
  • HE SAID I'M AN ATHEIST.
  • 00:23:40.040 --> 00:23:41.100
  • [CLEARS THROAT]
  • 00:23:41.100 --> 00:23:42.210
  • I SAID LET ME TELL YOU
  • 00:23:42.210 --> 00:23:43.150
  • WHAT I THINK OF IT.
  • 00:23:43.150 --> 00:23:45.080
  • THE IMPORTANT THING TO ME IS,
  • 00:23:45.080 --> 00:23:46.100
  • CRAIG, THAT GOD'S REVELATION IS
  • 00:23:46.100 --> 00:23:48.180
  • BASED TO US IN HISTORY,
  • 00:23:48.180 --> 00:23:51.160
  • IN HIS WORD, AND CONFIRMED
  • 00:23:51.160 --> 00:23:53.250
  • IN PERSONAL EXPERIENCE.
  • 00:23:53.250 --> 00:23:56.010
  • THE VISION TO ME AT THAT
  • 00:23:56.010 --> 00:23:57.130
  • MOMENT IS SECONDARY,
  • 00:23:57.130 --> 00:23:59.020
  • BUT IT'S PRECISELY
  • 00:23:59.020 --> 00:23:59.250
  • WHAT NICK NEEDED.
  • 00:23:59.250 --> 00:24:02.220
  • NICK NEEDED IT AT THAT MOMENT,
  • 00:24:02.220 --> 00:24:05.030
  • AND GOD MET HIM
  • 00:24:05.030 --> 00:24:05.290
  • WHERE HE NEEDED HIM MOST.
  • 00:24:05.290 --> 00:24:08.140
  • THAT'S NOT WHAT NICK'S FAITH
  • 00:24:08.140 --> 00:24:09.040
  • WAS BASED ON.
  • 00:24:09.040 --> 00:24:10.210
  • IT WAS BASED ON SOMETHING
  • 00:24:10.210 --> 00:24:11.100
  • LARGER THAN THAT.
  • 00:24:11.110 --> 00:24:14.110
  • I SAID WHAT DO YOU
  • 00:24:14.110 --> 00:24:15.010
  • THINK OF NICK?
  • 00:24:15.010 --> 00:24:15.280
  • HE SAID HE'S FOR REAL.
  • 00:24:15.280 --> 00:24:18.120
  • I SAID THEN TAKE
  • 00:24:18.120 --> 00:24:18.280
  • THE STORY THAT WAY, TOO.
  • 00:24:19.020 --> 00:24:22.020
  • TAKE THE STORY THAT WAY.
  • 00:24:22.020 --> 00:24:23.200
  • YOU KNOW WHAT WE'VE OFTEN MISSED
  • 00:24:23.200 --> 00:24:25.090
  • WITH THE SPIRITUAL
  • 00:24:25.090 --> 00:24:25.280
  • HUNGER OF PEOPLE?
  • 00:24:25.280 --> 00:24:27.220
  • WE'VE MADE THIS CHRISTIAN FAITH
  • 00:24:27.220 --> 00:24:29.050
  • SO FAR AWAY
  • 00:24:29.050 --> 00:24:30.180
  • IN DOCTRINAIRE STUFF,
  • 00:24:30.180 --> 00:24:32.040
  • WE HAVE SPENT VERY LITTLE TIME
  • 00:24:32.040 --> 00:24:33.140
  • TALKING ABOUT HOW DEEPLY
  • 00:24:33.140 --> 00:24:34.180
  • SPIRITUALLY-MINDED JESUS WAS,
  • 00:24:34.180 --> 00:24:37.120
  • TOO, IN THE SPIRITUAL REALITY
  • 00:24:37.120 --> 00:24:38.270
  • OF WORSHIP, MUSIC, THE MYSTICAL,
  • 00:24:39.050 --> 00:24:42.050
  • AND THE PRAYER,
  • 00:24:42.050 --> 00:24:42.270
  • AND WE'VE MADE HIM SOME KIND
  • 00:24:42.270 --> 00:24:44.020
  • OF THEORETICAL FIGURE.
  • 00:24:46.070 --> 00:24:49.070
  • AND I REMEMBER
  • 00:24:49.070 --> 00:24:49.250
  • WHEN I FINISHED PRAYING
  • 00:24:49.250 --> 00:24:50.210
  • WITH NICK, I OPENED MY EYES,
  • 00:24:50.210 --> 00:24:51.250
  • AND I WAS LOOKING ACROSS
  • 00:24:51.250 --> 00:24:52.220
  • A MOUNTAIN RANGE CALLED
  • 00:24:52.220 --> 00:24:54.000
  • THE BLOOD OF CHRIST.
  • 00:24:55.020 --> 00:24:58.020
  • THE DOG BY MY SIDE, HIS WIFE,
  • 00:24:58.020 --> 00:25:00.290
  • HIS DAUGHTER, HIS NURSE.
  • 00:25:01.190 --> 00:25:04.190
  • WHEN WE FINISHED PRAYING,
  • 00:25:04.190 --> 00:25:06.120
  • ALL OF CREATION SEEMED
  • 00:25:06.120 --> 00:25:07.160
  • TO COME TOGETHER.
  • 00:25:07.160 --> 00:25:09.240
  • ONE THING THE SPIRITUALISTS
  • 00:25:09.240 --> 00:25:11.230
  • ARE TEACHING US,
  • 00:25:11.230 --> 00:25:13.100
  • THEY'RE HUNGRY FOR HARMONY.
  • 00:25:13.290 --> 00:25:16.290
  • THEY'RE HUNGRY FOR HARMONY.
  • 00:25:18.030 --> 00:25:21.030
  • YOU DON'T LIKE DISCORD IN MUSIC.
  • 00:25:21.030 --> 00:25:23.080
  • WHY WOULD YOU LIKE DISCORD
  • 00:25:23.080 --> 00:25:24.040
  • IN YOUR BELIEF?
  • 00:25:24.040 --> 00:25:25.200
  • IT'S TIME FOR THE CHURCH
  • 00:25:25.200 --> 00:25:27.150
  • TO SOUND THAT HARMONIOUS MESSAGE
  • 00:25:27.240 --> 00:25:30.240
  • UNTIL FINALLY IN HEAVEN,
  • 00:25:30.240 --> 00:25:32.290
  • PLEASE PRAY WITH ME.
  • 00:25:40.020 --> 00:25:43.020
  • LORD, WE ARE HUNGRY PEOPLE
  • 00:25:56.060 --> 00:25:59.060
  • FOR OUR SOULS TO BE IN HARMONY.
  • 00:26:00.200 --> 00:26:03.200
  • WE'RE TORN.
  • 00:26:04.280 --> 00:26:07.280
  • THANK YOU, FOR YOUR WORD.
  • 00:26:08.200 --> 00:26:11.200
  • THANK YOU, O' TRIUNE GOD
  • 00:26:13.000 --> 00:26:16.000
  • FOR THE SON
  • 00:26:16.000 --> 00:26:18.170
  • AND FOR THE HOLY SPIRIT
  • 00:26:18.170 --> 00:26:20.280
  • AND HOLY FATHER
  • 00:26:21.020 --> 00:26:24.020
  • FOR YOUR BECKONING VOICE
  • 00:26:24.020 --> 00:26:25.090
  • IN OUR HEARTS.
  • 00:26:25.230 --> 00:26:28.230
  • LORD, WE LOSE YOU SO OFTEN
  • 00:26:28.240 --> 00:26:31.240
  • IN ALL OF THE PLACES
  • 00:26:31.240 --> 00:26:32.170
  • WE LEST EXPECT TO,
  • 00:26:32.170 --> 00:26:35.140
  • AND WE AUDACIOUSLY
  • 00:26:35.140 --> 00:26:36.120
  • LOOK AT YOU SOMETIMES
  • 00:26:36.120 --> 00:26:37.110
  • AND SAY, "WHAT IS TRUTH?",
  • 00:26:37.110 --> 00:26:39.020
  • AND WALK AWAY.
  • 00:26:39.020 --> 00:26:41.000
  • RESTORE YOUR CHURCH,
  • 00:26:41.000 --> 00:26:43.290
  • RESTORE YOUR PEOPLE,
  • 00:26:44.130 --> 00:26:47.130
  • AND LET US A BE A LIGHT
  • 00:26:47.130 --> 00:26:49.200
  • TO A WORLD THAT'S LONGING
  • 00:26:49.200 --> 00:26:50.260
  • FOR HARMONY.
  • 00:26:50.270 --> 00:26:53.270
  • AND JUST LIKE THEY LONG
  • 00:26:53.270 --> 00:26:55.050
  • TO BREATH PROPERLY,
  • 00:26:55.050 --> 00:26:58.000
  • SPIRIT OF THE LIVING GOD,
  • 00:26:58.090 --> 00:27:01.110
  • FALL AFRESH UPON US.
  • 00:27:01.110 --> 00:27:04.100
  • LET US BREATH YOUR MESSAGE.
  • 00:27:06.220 --> 00:27:09.220
  • AND O' BREATH OF LIFE
  • 00:27:09.220 --> 00:27:12.000
  • LET IT BE VIBRANT.
  • 00:27:12.000 --> 00:27:14.080
  • BLESS MY DEAR FRIENDS,
  • 00:27:14.080 --> 00:27:16.280
  • NOW AS WE ENJOY THIS MEAL,
  • 00:27:16.280 --> 00:27:19.020
  • MAY WE REFLECT ON THE GREATER
  • 00:27:19.020 --> 00:27:20.190
  • FOOD FOR THE SOUL;
  • 00:27:21.110 --> 00:27:24.110
  • IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER,
  • 00:27:24.110 --> 00:27:26.040
  • AND OF THE SON,
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