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Overcomer Interview with Dr. David Jeremiah

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August 1, 2019
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  • Dr. David Jeremiah: Are you feeling powerless,
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  • powerless to control your destiny?
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  • The fate of our nation, your career, financial security,
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  • and even your daily life?
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  • We are in a spiritual battle for our hearts and minds,
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  • sometimes with little strength to be victorious.
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  • What if I told you there is one who can empower you
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  • to prevail over the emotional, physical,
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  • and spiritual chaos in your life,
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  • one who can give you the power to be more than a conqueror,
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  • more than a winner, more than a victor,
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  • but an overcomer?
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  • As an overcomer, you are no longer defined
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  • by your trials but by your victories.
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  • As an overcomer, you put on God-given armor
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  • that both protects you from the enemy
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  • and empowers you to conquer your greatest obstacles.
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  • Dr. Jeremiah: We're called to be overcomers,
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  • men and women.
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  • We're called to walk in victory, and strength,
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  • and peace, and love.
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  • Sometimes I hear people say
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  • when I ask them how they're doing,
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  • "I'm doing okay down under the circumstances."
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  • But we don't belong under the circumstances,
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  • we belong above the circumstances.
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  • We're not undercomers, we're overcomers, amen?
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  • Dr. Jeremiah: Live a life of unstoppable strength,
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  • unmovable faith, and unbelievable power.
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  • Discover how you can be an overcomer.
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  • male announcer: Ladies and gentlemen, Bible teacher,
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  • author, and television host, please welcome Sheila Walsh.
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  • [audience applauding]
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  • Sheila Walsh: Hello, welcome. Wow, welcome.
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  • I'm Shelia Walsh, and I'm so glad
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  • that you could join us here today.
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  • Let me ask you a question, do you ever feel
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  • as if the world is ripping apart at the seams?
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  • Sometimes it feels like your heart
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  • can't take anymore hurt, but we want you to know
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  • no matter what the world throws at you,
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  • anxiety, fear, confusion, temptation, you have a choice.
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  • You don't have to be the victim because you can choose to live
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  • in the victory that God promises you as an overcomer.
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  • Dr. Jeremiah is here to assure us
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  • of God's promise that there is absolutely nothing
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  • that Satan could throw at you that you cannot overcome.
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  • [audience applauding]
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  • So, thank you so much for being with us today
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  • and now would you please join me in welcoming to the stage,
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  • beloved pastor, author, and Bible teacher,
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  • Dr. David Jeremiah?
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  • [audience applauding]
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  • Well, this is exciting.
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  • The title, "Overcomer," is great,
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  • but I love the subtitles,
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  • "Eight Ways to Live a Life of Unstoppable Strength,
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  • Unmovable Faith, and Unbelievable Power."
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  • Sounds pretty good.
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  • What motivated you to write this book in particular?
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  • Dr. David Jeremiah: How many of you know
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  • that in the Book of Ephesians,
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  • there's a passage at the end of the book
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  • that's called "The Armor of the Believer,"
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  • have you ever heard of that?
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  • Where Paul, at the end of this book,
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  • gives this great conclusion to the Book of Ephesians
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  • and it's supposed to be motivational.
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  • I never realized that at first
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  • but when you get to the end of this book,
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  • this is kind of like Paul summarizing
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  • all the great stuff that's in the book
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  • before you get to chapter 6.
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  • And so, he tells all of them to put on the armor of believer
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  • and he gives them all of these pieces of armor
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  • that they're to put on, and it's a metaphor.
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  • It's supposed to encourage everybody
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  • and motivate everybody,
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  • but I discovered most of the people I talked to
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  • didn't have any idea what it meant.
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  • They understood the metaphor,
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  • they just didn't know the meaning.
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  • How many of you know that while that's important information,
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  • we don't live in a world where you're apt to see somebody
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  • walking around with a breastplate of righteousness
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  • or a helmet on his head
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  • with a plume sticking up in the air?
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  • Sheila: One of the things that made me laugh,
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  • you write in the prologue that when you hit a hard situation,
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  • that's not the moment when you can google
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  • spiritual warfare, you have to be prepared.
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  • What do you mean by that?
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  • Dr. Jeremiah: Well, Satan doesn't call you up on the phone
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  • and say, "I'm visiting your community on Wednesday
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  • and your appointment's at three o'clock," you know?
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  • He just doesn't do that.
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  • He comes at the most unexpected time in your life
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  • and sometimes we think,
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  • "Oh, I'll deal with it when it comes,"
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  • but that's not something you can deal with when it comes.
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  • You have to be proactive.
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  • We have to prepare ourselves because it's inevitable.
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  • All of us will have to deal with his wiles
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  • while we're on this earth.
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  • Nobody escapes it and the only people
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  • that are victorious over it
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  • are the people that prepare for it.
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  • I want people to be helped from the Word of God
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  • and that's why we did this the way we did it.
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  • Sheila: And for that, we thank you.
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  • That's huge, yeah.
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  • So, in the first chapter of the book,
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  • you call David the greatest overcomer in the Old Testament.
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  • Dr. Jeremiah: Well, David overcame early,
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  • he failed later and overcame later, you know?
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  • He's like, us, we wasn't perfect.
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  • But the first story about David is the most important one,
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  • his bout with Goliath.
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  • When you see that story in its context,
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  • you realize it's not just a story of a little boy
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  • against a giant, it's a profound story
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  • about the great contest of the world,
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  • about good versus evil, about God versus Satan.
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  • Just like Goliath
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  • who came every morning and every night
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  • and shouted his challenge against the Israelites,
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  • Satan shows up every morning and every night, doesn't he?
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  • And as long as you run away from him
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  • and you keep putting your problems off
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  • and you keep postponing them,
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  • Satan's got you right where he wants you to be.
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  • So, I've tried to learn
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  • when you have a challenge in your life,
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  • don't run away from it, run toward it.
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  • Get it dealt with because, believe it or not,
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  • it won't go away by itself?
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  • How many can say, "I will applaud that"?
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  • You know, I've never had many problems
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  • get resolved by themselves.
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  • Things don't happen.
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  • So, I'm becoming aggressive in running toward the problems.
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  • Sheila: That's awesome.
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  • Chapter 2 is about overcoming weakness with strengths.
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  • Now, I imagine most people watching
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  • and most of our audience here would wonder
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  • if you've ever struggled with weakness.
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  • Dr. Jeremiah: My mom used to say to me,
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  • "David Paul Jeremiah,
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  • where do you get all that energy?"
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  • And it wasn't a compliment. It was a frustration.
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  • I've always had just an incredible motor
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  • and lots of energy and I, in this book,
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  • I talk about all the stuff I was involved in high school,
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  • what I was doing in college, and how Donna and I
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  • went off to school at Dallas.
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  • And I was playing in an industrial basketball league
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  • while I was a seminary student.
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  • I mean, that's not a good thing to do,
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  • but I just always had lots of energy.
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  • I didn't need a lot of sleep.
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  • And then one day I went for a physical checkup
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  • and found out that I had lymphoma cancer.
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  • And all of a sudden, I was put on a protocol of chemotherapy,
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  • and I found out what weakness is like because chemotherapy,
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  • as many of you know if you've had people in your family,
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  • maybe you've been through it,
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  • it doesn't make you so sick anymore as it used to
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  • 'cause they have all this anti-nausea medicine.
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  • It just makes you profoundly tired.
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  • And I would get up in the morning during that time,
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  • by 9 o'clock I was ready to go back to bed.
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  • I just had nothing left in the tank.
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  • I found out what weakness was like and it was not fun.
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  • Sheila: You know, it's interesting in Scripture,
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  • we read places where we're supposed to be weak,
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  • you know, because and we read places
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  • where we're supposed to be strong.
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  • Are we supposed to be both?
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  • Dr. Jeremiah: Well, you know, the Bible says
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  • that when we are weak, then we are strong.
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  • Have you read that passage? And that's not double talk.
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  • We don't really find the strength of the Lord
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  • until we run out of the strength we put in ourselves.
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  • You know, the Bible says this over and over again,
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  • "Be not wise in your own eyes."
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  • The Bible says that until we come to the place
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  • where we're willing to depend on God and not ourselves,
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  • we can never really know the full strength of the Lord.
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  • And when you're going through something,
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  • as many of you know, whether it's cancer,
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  • or some issue with your family, or whatever,
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  • it's when you're at the lowest place
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  • that you feel the presence of the Lord
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  • like you never felt it before.
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  • I have had people tell me that over and over again.
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  • "Dr. Jeremiah, it was an awful experience
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  • and I hope I never have to do it again
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  • but I want to tell you something, when I was there,
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  • I felt the presence of God like I have never felt it before."
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  • Sheila: That is so true.
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  • Could you give us practical tips on ways to strengthen your soul
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  • with God's strength?
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  • Dr. Jeremiah: You receive it through the Word.
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  • You receive it through worship. You receive it through waiting.
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  • "They that wait upon the Lord," what does it say, class?
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  • "Shall renew their strength."
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  • Faith is the muscle that ties together the promise of God
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  • and the fulfillment of God,
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  • and that muscle is strengthened when you wait.
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  • Sheila: And honestly, that's why I think
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  • this book is so important:
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  • It teaches the truth of God's Word,
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  • but then it tells you and I how to access that.
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  • So, let's move on to chapter 3,
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  • "Overcoming Falsehood with Truth."
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  • As you have mentioned, this is a very timely topic.
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  • We live in a culture where truth is so watered down,
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  • unrecognizable, but according to God's Word,
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  • what is truth?
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  • Dr. Jeremiah: If you can get past Genesis 1:1,
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  • you can get truth because Genesis 1:1 says,
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  • "In the beginning God."
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  • He is the ultimate truth.
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  • And Jesus Christ who is his Son, what is he called?
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  • The way, the truth and the life.
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  • Truth in the Bible is not a concept.
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  • Truth in the Bible is a person.
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  • Jesus Christ is the truth.
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  • Whatever is in keeping with Christ and his truth
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  • is what is true.
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  • And, of course, it gets played out today
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  • in all the cultural things that are going on
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  • and after a while you wonder,
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  • does anybody ever tell the truth about anything?
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  • But that doesn't mean that we, as believers,
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  • have to fall into that trap.
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  • Hold on to Jesus Christ as your only hope
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  • because he is the way, the truth, and the life,
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  • and the truth will set you free.
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  • Sheila: That's beautiful, beautiful.
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  • A lot of people make light of little white lies,
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  • it's not that big a deal.
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  • Why is falsehood so dangerous for us?
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  • Dr. Jeremiah: Well, you tell a lie and it never goes away,
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  • you know?
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  • You say, "Well, you can reflect on it and get it right."
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  • Yeah, but you can't fix the damage
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  • that's been done during the time that the lie was told
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  • and you can never repair your reputation.
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  • You can be forgiven, and I any a lot of people
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  • misunderstand that.
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  • "Well, God will forgive me."
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  • Yeah, but, you know, God forgives,
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  • but he doesn't take the scars away.
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  • Sheila: Chapter 4, you talk about overcoming evil with good.
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  • I mean, what a challenge in the culture that we are living in.
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  • How do we even begin?
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  • Where do you even start to overcome evil with good?
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  • Dr. Jeremiah: Well, there's two places where evil resides
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  • within us and outside of us.
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  • You begin to get rid of the evil within you
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  • when you come to the cross
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  • and you accept Jesus Christ's forgiveness.
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  • And the Bible says when you do that,
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  • he takes away your sin and he gives you his righteousness.
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  • That's the easy one.
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  • Sheila: Yes, but the evil that we face in our culture
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  • day after day.
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  • Dr. Jeremiah: Well, I remember there's a passage,
  • 00:12:54.180 --> 00:12:56.140
  • and if y'all want to look it up when you get home,
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  • it's at the end of chapter 12 of the Book of Romans,
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  • where I think God gave us this little paragraph
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  • to help us understand how to deal with this.
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  • And there's some really revealing truths in there
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  • that I had never thought of before till I wrote this book.
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  • One of them is something we say, but do we really understand it?
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  • The first one is to let God deal with repaying
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  • the evil in our life.
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  • God says in this passage, you remember this?
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  • "Vengeance is mine, I will repay."
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  • When we try to take vengeance on those who hurt us,
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  • we are usurping God's role and I don't think he likes that.
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  • God wants us to let him deal with this.
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  • You know, the way you get rid of evil
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  • on the outside of you is you overcome it with good.
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  • You overcome evil with good.
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  • Good absorbs evil and makes it go away.
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  • The Bible says if someone hurt you,
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  • do good to him, pray for him.
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  • You can't be mad at somebody very long
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  • if you're praying for them.
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  • You overcome evil with good.
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  • Sheila: Stay tuned.
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  • I'm here with Dr. David Jeremiah discussing his new book
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  • and teaching series, "Overcomer."
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  • Okay, let's move on to overcoming anxiety with peace.
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  • Doesn't it seem like anxiety's like epic proportions
  • 00:15:42.260 --> 00:15:45.100
  • in our culture,
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  • so describe for us the peace of the overcomer.
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  • Dr. Jeremiah: Well, when you talk about peace as a believer,
  • 00:15:51.010 --> 00:15:53.080
  • you're talking about two things.
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  • First of all, the peace that you have with God
  • 00:15:54.240 --> 00:15:57.160
  • and the peace that you have of God.
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  • Peace with God is what happens when you get right with God
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  • and you become a Christian.
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  • It's not that you're angry toward God,
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  • but he's kind of angry towards you
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  • because of your rebellion against his love.
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  • But when you make peace with God,
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  • we say that, don't we?
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  • "I want to make my peace with God."
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  • You shouldn't do that when you die.
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  • You need to do that when you're living.
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  • Make peace with God, which means there's no condemnation.
  • 00:16:18.210 --> 00:16:22.040
  • We have peace with God.
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  • So, if you want to have the peace with God,
  • 00:16:24.030 --> 00:16:26.020
  • you confess your sin, you get right with God,
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  • and you have affinity together.
  • 00:16:28.190 --> 00:16:30.290
  • But the peace of God is a different thing.
  • 00:16:31.000 --> 00:16:33.220
  • How many people do you know that have peace with God
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  • that don't have the peace of God?
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  • They're Christians but they're just totally filled
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  • with anxiety, they can't live a day without worry.
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  • All of us face some of those issues
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  • and the Bible says that the peace of God
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  • passes all understanding.
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  • It means it's so incredible, you can't explain it to somebody
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  • who doesn't know what it is.
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  • And the peace of God comes when we come to the Lord
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  • and we remind ourselves that anxiety
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  • is not God's purpose for our life.
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  • In everything by prayer and supplication,
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  • let your request be made known to God.
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  • In everything prayer and nothing anxiety.
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  • Sheila: That's awesome.
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  • Now, we move on to chapter 6, "Overcoming Fear with Faith."
  • 00:17:17.190 --> 00:17:21.270
  • Now, if you mention faith to most people,
  • 00:17:21.280 --> 00:17:23.180
  • it's a very spiritual word but you unpack it differently
  • 00:17:23.190 --> 00:17:27.000
  • in this chapter.
  • 00:17:27.010 --> 00:17:28.100
  • You make it a very everyday word.
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  • Talk to us about that.
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  • Dr. Jeremiah: Well, that comes from the passage
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  • that says we're to take the shield of faith
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  • so that we can withstand the darts
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  • that Satan throws after us.
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  • We have to live our lives in faith and not fear.
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  • You can't be a person of fear if you're a person of faith.
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  • The Bible says, "Faith comes by hearing
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  • and hearing by the Word of God."
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  • When we allow the Word of God in into our lives,
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  • it builds our faith.
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  • It strengthens us so that when things come,
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  • we aren't blown off course.
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  • We have the Word of God available to us
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  • in every way possible.
  • 00:18:08.080 --> 00:18:10.090
  • And what we need to do is get that Word of God into us
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  • because the Word of God in our lives
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  • is like the hard drive
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  • and if we don't have anything in our hard drive,
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  • God doesn't have anything to work with.
  • 00:18:20.030 --> 00:18:21.250
  • The Spirit of God takes the Word of God
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  • that we've put into our lives
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  • and applies it to the issues we face.
  • 00:18:25.210 --> 00:18:27.230
  • But if we don't have anything in our hard drive,
  • 00:18:27.240 --> 00:18:29.290
  • it just clicks and goes away.
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  • And so, just let it flood your heart.
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  • I get to sign Bibles everywhere I go
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  • and some of them are really trashed.
  • 00:18:37.170 --> 00:18:38.260
  • I mean, they are really messed up,
  • 00:18:38.270 --> 00:18:40.200
  • but I always feel good about that person
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  • when they leave because I know they've been in the Scripture.
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  • Sheila: Yeah, chapter 7 is
  • 00:18:45.030 --> 00:18:47.010
  • "Overcoming Confusion with Wisdom."
  • 00:18:47.020 --> 00:18:50.060
  • Wisdom is not a word you hear a lot these days.
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  • How do you define wisdom?
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  • Dr. Jeremiah: The best definition I ever heard
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  • of wisdom is this, wisdom is doing the right thing
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  • without a precedent.
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  • Wisdom is God helping you know what to do
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  • when you've never heard of anybody being in the place
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  • where you are in your circumstance.
  • 00:19:06.280 --> 00:19:09.020
  • Wisdom is knowledge using its head.
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  • Wisdom is the information God gives you
  • 00:19:12.170 --> 00:19:14.120
  • and then it's his making it possible for you
  • 00:19:14.130 --> 00:19:17.110
  • to take that knowledge and apply it
  • 00:19:17.120 --> 00:19:19.130
  • to the situations you face.
  • 00:19:19.140 --> 00:19:21.140
  • "If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God
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  • who gives to all of us liberally and abrades us not,"
  • 00:19:24.130 --> 00:19:27.200
  • which means God never scolds us for asking him for his wisdom.
  • 00:19:27.210 --> 00:19:31.270
  • He invites us to come and he wants to have
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  • the wisdom he alone can provide.
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  • [audience applauding]
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  • Sheila: I thought it was interesting you say
  • 00:19:40.200 --> 00:19:42.010
  • in this chapter that wisdom is actually more
  • 00:19:42.020 --> 00:19:44.200
  • about an attitude that an activity.
  • 00:19:44.210 --> 00:19:47.150
  • What did you mean by that?
  • 00:19:47.160 --> 00:19:49.160
  • Dr. Jeremiah: I said earlier that we, the Bible tells us
  • 00:19:49.170 --> 00:19:51.290
  • not to be wise in our own eyes.
  • 00:19:52.000 --> 00:19:54.200
  • Arrogance is the idea that I have all the answers.
  • 00:19:54.210 --> 00:19:58.250
  • If I have all the answers,
  • 00:19:58.260 --> 00:20:00.060
  • why am I gonna ask God for his wisdom?
  • 00:20:00.070 --> 00:20:02.120
  • I mean, if I'm full of myself,
  • 00:20:02.130 --> 00:20:04.090
  • how am I ever gonna get God into my life?
  • 00:20:04.100 --> 00:20:06.140
  • And you know what? God breaks people down.
  • 00:20:06.150 --> 00:20:08.110
  • The Bible says, "God draws near to the humble,
  • 00:20:08.120 --> 00:20:10.290
  • but he resists the proud."
  • 00:20:11.000 --> 00:20:12.290
  • Man, I don't want God resisting me.
  • 00:20:13.000 --> 00:20:15.150
  • I want him to draw near to me.
  • 00:20:15.160 --> 00:20:17.110
  • I want to be the person who knows what I don't know
  • 00:20:17.120 --> 00:20:20.250
  • and, you know, that's one of the things that happens
  • 00:20:20.260 --> 00:20:22.280
  • is you grow in the Lord.
  • 00:20:22.290 --> 00:20:24.080
  • The more you grow in the Lord, the more you know that
  • 00:20:24.090 --> 00:20:25.240
  • you don't know and how much you need him, right?
  • 00:20:25.250 --> 00:20:28.200
  • Shelia: So true.
  • 00:20:28.210 --> 00:20:30.060
  • I love chapter 8, you talk in chapter 8
  • 00:20:30.070 --> 00:20:32.100
  • about overcoming temptation with Scripture.
  • 00:20:32.110 --> 00:20:35.220
  • The whole chapter seems built around that one event
  • 00:20:35.230 --> 00:20:38.060
  • in the life of Christ that was so significant.
  • 00:20:38.070 --> 00:20:42.000
  • How did Jesus overcome temptation?
  • 00:20:42.010 --> 00:20:44.270
  • Dr. Jeremiah: Well, Jesus, as you know, was taken out
  • 00:20:44.280 --> 00:20:46.280
  • into the wilderness from after his baptism.
  • 00:20:46.290 --> 00:20:49.050
  • Right after the high moment in this life, the Bible says
  • 00:20:49.060 --> 00:20:51.160
  • Satan met him in the wilderness and tempted him.
  • 00:20:51.170 --> 00:20:55.100
  • Satan had three temptations against the Lord Jesus.
  • 00:20:55.110 --> 00:20:58.010
  • The same ones that he used against Adam and Eve
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  • in the garden, the lust of the flesh,
  • 00:21:00.030 --> 00:21:01.270
  • the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life.
  • 00:21:01.280 --> 00:21:04.080
  • And I don't have time to unpack the temptations
  • 00:21:04.090 --> 00:21:06.170
  • but you remember what happened.
  • 00:21:06.180 --> 00:21:08.010
  • Every time Satan tempted him, Jesus said, "It is written."
  • 00:21:08.020 --> 00:21:12.250
  • Three times he pulled the sword out of his armory
  • 00:21:12.260 --> 00:21:16.290
  • and whacked Satan with it.
  • 00:21:17.000 --> 00:21:18.270
  • And then the Bible says at the end, "And Satan left him
  • 00:21:19.240 --> 00:21:24.000
  • and the angels came to minister to Jesus."
  • 00:21:24.010 --> 00:21:26.170
  • What I learned from that is we deal with temptation
  • 00:21:26.180 --> 00:21:31.030
  • with the sword of the Spirit, which is the Word of God
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  • and that sword of the Spirit which is the Word of God,
  • 00:21:34.190 --> 00:21:36.260
  • isn't the whole Bible.
  • 00:21:36.270 --> 00:21:38.080
  • It's the sayings of God that come out of the Bible
  • 00:21:38.090 --> 00:21:39.290
  • that are pertinent to whatever temptation
  • 00:21:40.000 --> 00:21:41.210
  • you happen to be dealing with.
  • 00:21:41.220 --> 00:21:43.230
  • And here's the thing I love about that.
  • 00:21:43.240 --> 00:21:45.100
  • You know where Jesus got all of his swords?
  • 00:21:45.110 --> 00:21:47.250
  • From the Book of Deuteronomy.
  • 00:21:47.260 --> 00:21:50.230
  • When was the last time you had devotions in Deuteronomy?
  • 00:21:50.240 --> 00:21:54.100
  • But Jesus found the great swords that he needed
  • 00:21:54.110 --> 00:21:58.190
  • in that Old Testament book
  • 00:21:58.200 --> 00:22:00.040
  • and he used them to be victorious over Satan.
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  • Sheila: I think it's something that many of us struggle with.
  • 00:22:03.270 --> 00:22:06.110
  • You talk about overcoming everything with prayer
  • 00:22:06.120 --> 00:22:09.190
  • and you're very honest, this chapter, as you are,
  • 00:22:09.200 --> 00:22:12.050
  • but you talk about how this a hard subject
  • 00:22:12.060 --> 00:22:14.260
  • to write about or to talk about.
  • 00:22:14.270 --> 00:22:16.170
  • Why is that?
  • 00:22:16.180 --> 00:22:17.270
  • Dr. Jeremiah: Well, somebody once told me
  • 00:22:17.280 --> 00:22:19.070
  • if you want to empty your church,
  • 00:22:19.080 --> 00:22:20.170
  • announce you're gonna have a two-week series,
  • 00:22:20.180 --> 00:22:22.170
  • the first week's on witnessing and the second week's on prayer.
  • 00:22:22.180 --> 00:22:25.240
  • Nobody will come because everybody feels guilty
  • 00:22:25.250 --> 00:22:28.100
  • about both those things.
  • 00:22:28.110 --> 00:22:30.010
  • We all feel guilty that we don't do that better.
  • 00:22:30.020 --> 00:22:32.080
  • I've never really met anybody who's told me, "You know,
  • 00:22:32.090 --> 00:22:35.170
  • I really gotta quit praying so much, you know,
  • 00:22:35.180 --> 00:22:39.080
  • I'm praying too much."
  • 00:22:39.090 --> 00:22:41.020
  • We all know that we should pray more and pray better.
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  • All of us are in the same boat.
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  • But just because we don't do it as well as we should,
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  • doesn't mean we should stop trying to do it better
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  • than we do and learn how to do it better
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  • and ask God to make us more effective.
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  • Sheila: Chapter 10 is "Overcoming Death with Life,"
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  • and you talk about David being the greatest overcomer
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  • in the Old Testament but then you move
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  • as to the glorious truth of the greatest overcomer
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  • in the New Testament.
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  • Dr. Jeremiah: The Lord Jesus Christ came to this earth,
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  • lived a perfect sinless life, and died.
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  • And then on the third day, he overcame the grave
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  • and became the great overcomer for all of us.
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  • [audience applauding]
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  • Sheila: Because of that great victory of Christ
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  • rising from the dead, what can life look like for us
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  • because of Christ the great overcomer?
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  • Dr. Jeremiah: Well, I'll tell you what,
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  • the way it should like for us is the way it looked like
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  • for the early apostles who saw the resurrected Christ.
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  • And the Bible says they went out
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  • and turned their world upside down.
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  • It wasn't scientific evidence of anything other than the fact
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  • that they knew the one who came out of the grave
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  • was the one they had known
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  • before he died and it changed their lives.
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  • If we really understand the Resurrection,
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  • it should change our lives.
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  • We have a message and a hope the world does not have
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  • and they desperately need now
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  • because they're looking everywhere.
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  • There are no answers but we know the answer,
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  • the answer is Jesus Christ who overcame the grave.
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  • [audience applauding]
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  • Sheila: If you got to leave one thing with us from this,
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  • because this book is packed with very practical wisdom.
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  • I've read so many books on spiritual warfare,
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  • have never read a book that is so practical,
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  • and daily, and doable.
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  • But if you just leave us with one thing concerning the book,
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  • what would that be?
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  • Dr. Jeremiah: I think the main thing that comes away
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  • from this is just this reality
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  • that God wants us to be successful
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  • in the realm of our walk with him.
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  • God is not pleased with us
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  • not achieving in our own spiritual lives.
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  • I mean, he died on the cross through his Son Jesus Christ
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  • to provide a life for us and it's a life more abundant.
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  • It's a life of victory, not one of failure and defeat.
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  • And it is we're defeated, we need to ask God,
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  • "Show me where the root of this is
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  • and help me to get past this and live the life
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  • that you died on the cross
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  • so that I would have this opportunity."
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  • And I want to say to you, you can be an overcomer.
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  • I can be an overcomer.
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  • We don't have to be losers, we can be winners.
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  • We don't have to be victims, we can be victors
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  • and if we believe that, it'll make a difference.
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  • announcer: A new day has dawned.
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  • will awaken the power of God in you
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  • and become an overcomer.
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  • announcer: Next time on "Turning Point."
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  • Dr. Jeremiah: Sometimes I hear people say
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  • when I ask them how they're doing,
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  • "I'm doing okay down under the circumstances."
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  • But we don't belong under the circumstances.
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  • We belong above the circumstances.
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  • We're not undercomers, we're overcomers, amen?
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  • announcer: Join Dr. Jeremiah next time for his message,
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  • "Overcomer," here on "Turning Point."
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