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Praise | Priscilla Shirer & Anthony Evans | 9/7/18

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September 7, 2018
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Priscilla Shirer hosts Anthony Evans.

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Praise | Priscilla Shirer & Anthony Evans | 9/7/18

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  • [MUSIC]
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  • - ANNOUNCER: TONIGHT ON PRAISE, FROM DALLAS,
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  • TEXAS, CHRISTIAN SINGER SONGWRITER, WORSHIP
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  • LEADER AND AUTHOR ANTHONY EVANS.
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  • [MUSIC]
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  • - AND NOW, PRISCILLA SHIRER.
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  • [APPLAUSE]
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  • - PRISCILLA SHIRER: HEY THERE.
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  • I AM SO GLAD TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE
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  • FOR MANY REASONS, MANY REASONS.
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  • ONE OF THEM IS THAT I LOVE TBN AND I LOVE THE
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  • HOPE IT BRINGS TO THE WORLD SO IT FEELS LIKE A
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  • PRIVILEGE AND A PLEASURE TO BE ABLE TO BE HERE ON
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  • THIS PROGRAM TONIGHT.
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  • I WILL TELL YOU IT IS ALSO A PLEASURE AND
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  • PRIVILEGE FOR ME AND I'M SO THRILLED BECAUSE I GET
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  • THE OPPORTUNITY TO INTERVIEW MY BABY
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  • BROTHER, ANTHONY EVANS JUNIOR.
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  • I GET TO PUT HIM ON THE HOT SEAT AND ASK HIM
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  • ANYTHING I WANT TO.
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  • SO I GOT SOME PLANS FOR TONIGHT, LET ME TELL YOU.
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  • [APPLAUSE]
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  • WE HAVE A STUDIO FULL OF INCREDIBLE PEOPLE WHO
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  • HAVE COME TO JOIN US TONIGHT.
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  • THEY ARE-- [APPLAUSE] THEY ARE EXCITED.
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  • THEY ARE EXCITED ABOUT WHAT GOD IS GOING TO SAY
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  • TO THEM AND I'M EXCITED ABOUT WHAT THE LORD HAS
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  • PLANNED FOR YOU AS WELL.
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  • LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING.
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  • MY BROTHER CALLED ME UP AND HE SAID LISTEN, I
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  • WONDERED IF YOU WOULD DO A LITTLE INTERVIEW WITH
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  • ME ON TBN.
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  • AND I SAID SURE, I WOULD LOVE TO DO THAT BUT AS IT
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  • GOES WITH LITTLE BROTHERS WHAT DID HE DID NOT TELL
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  • ME IS THAT I WOULD BE HOSTING THE ENTIRE
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  • PROGRAM. DIDN'T KNOW THAT UNTIL I ARRIVED TONIGHT.
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  • THAT'S WHAT LITTLE BROTHERS DO TO YOU, BUT I
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  • AM EXCITED ABOUT THIS.
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  • AND I COULDN'T, I REALLY COULDN'T THINK OF ANY
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  • BETTER WAY TO START OFF A PROGRAM LIKE THIS THAN
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  • ALLOWING US ALL THE PLEASURE AND THE
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  • PRIVILEGE TO WORSHIP TOGETHER.
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  • AND BEING LED IN WORSHIP BY SOMEONE THAT I THINK
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  • IS ONE OF THE MOST INCREDIBLE WORSHIP
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  • LEADERS OF OUR TIME.
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  • WOULD YOU PLEASE WELCOME ANTHONY EVANS AND LET'S
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  • SING TOGETHER EVER BE.
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  • [APPLAUSE]
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  • [MUSIC]
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  • [MUSIC]
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  • YOUR LOVE IS DEVOTED LEEK A RING OF SOLID GOLD ...
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  • LIKE A VOW THAT'S BEEN TESTED ...
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  • LIKE A COVENANT OF OLD ...
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  • YOUR LOVE IS ENDURING THROUGH THE WINTER RAIN ...
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  • AND BEYOND THE HORIZON ...
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  • WITH MERCY FOR TODAY ...
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  • FAITHFUL YOU HAVE BEEN ...
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  • AND FAITHFUL YOU WILL BE ...
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  • YOU PLEDGED YOURSELF TO ME ...
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  • THAT'S WHY I SING YOUR PRAISES ...
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  • EVER BE ON MY LIPS ...
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  • YOUR PRAISE WILL EVER BE ON MY LIPS ...
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  • EVER BE ON MY LIPS ...
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  • YOUR PLACE WILL EVER BE ON MY LIPS ...
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  • EVER BE ON MY LIPS ...
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  • YOUR PRAISE WILL EVER BE ON MY LIPS ...
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  • EVER BE ON MY LIPS ...
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  • FOREVER YOUR PRAISE WILL BE ON MY LIPS ...
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  • YOU FATHER ORPHAN ...
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  • YOUR KINDNESS MAKES US WHOLE ...
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  • YOU SHOWED OUR WEAKNESS ...
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  • AND YOUR STRENGTH BECOMES OUR OWN ...
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  • YOU'RE MAKING ME LIKE YOU ...
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  • CLOTHING ME IN WHITE ...
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  • BRINGING BEAUTY FROM ASHES ...
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  • FOR YOU WILL HAVE YOUR BRIDE ...
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  • FREE FROM ALL HER GUILT ...
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  • AND RID OF ALL HER SHAME ...
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  • KNOWING HER TRUE NAME ...
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  • THAT'S WHY I SING ...
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  • YOUR PRAISE WILL BE EVER ON MY LIPS ...
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  • YOUR PRAISE WILL EVER BE ON MY LIPS ...
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  • EVER BE ON MY LIPS ...
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  • YOUR PRAISE WILL EVER BE, EVER BE ON MY LIPS ...
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  • OH, EVER BE ...
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  • YOU WILL BE PRAISED ...
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  • YOU WILL BE PRAISED ...
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  • WITH ANGELS AND SAINTS WE SING WORTHY ARE YOU, LORD ...
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  • YOU WILL BE PRAISED ...
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  • YOU WILL BE PRAISED ...
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  • WITH ANGELS AND SAINTS ...
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  • WE SING WORTHY ARE YOU ...
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  • YOU WILL BE PRAISED ...
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  • YOU WILL BE PRAISED ...
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  • OH, WE SING WORTHY ARE YOU ...
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  • YOU WILL BE PRAISED ...
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  • YOU WILL BE PRAISED ...
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  • WITH ANGELS AND SAINTS WE SING WORTHY ARE YOU, LORD ...
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  • AND THAT'S WHY I SING YOUR PRAISE WILL BE,
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  • EVER BE, OH ...
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  • YOUR PRAISE, OH IT WILL BE, EVER BE ON MY LIPS ...
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  • EVER BE ON MY LIPS ...
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  • EVER BE ON MY LIPS ...
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  • YOUR PRAISE WILL BE EVER BE ON MY LIPS ...
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  • EVER BE ON MY LIPS ...
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  • YOUR PRAISE WILL BE, FOREVER BE ON MY LIPS ...
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  • [APPLAUSE]
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  • - IT'S KIND OF IMPOSSIBLE TO LISTEN TO
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  • THAT AND NOT BE IN A SPIRIT OF WORSHIP.
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  • IF YOU WERE DOWN AND FEELING DISCOURAGED
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  • BEFORE THAT, I HOPE YOU'RE FEELING
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  • ENCOURAGED NOW.
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  • IN FACT, I KNOW YOU ARE.
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  • I WANT YOU TO LEARN JUST A BIT MORE ABOUT MY BABY
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  • BROTHER ANTHONY EVANS JUNIOR, SO WATCH THIS.
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  • [MUSIC]
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  • - ANTHONY EVANS MELODIC VOICE PROCLAIMING
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  • THE GOSPEL FOR MORE THAN A DECADE.
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  • HIS JOURNEY IN THE WORLD OF MUSIC HAS TRANSFORMED
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  • HIM INTO A TOP MALE VOCALIST, SONGWRITER, AND
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  • WORSHIP LEADER.
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  • SON OF WELL-KNOWN PASTOR TONY EVANS AND BROTHER OF
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  • BEST-SELLING AUTHOR AND ACTRESS PRISCILLA SHIRER,
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  • ANTHONY HAS UNDOUBTEDLY FELT THE PRESSURE OF
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  • LIVING UP TO THE FAMILY NAME.
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  • HIS BIG BREAK CAME WHEN HE WAS SELECTED AS A
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  • FINALIST ON A MAJOR NETWORK TALENT SHOW AND
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  • LATER SERVED AS A TALENT PRODUCER.
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  • ANTHONY SPENT FOUR SEASONS IN HOLLYWOOD
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  • WORKING WITH TOP-NOTCH VOICES.
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  • HE'LL BE THE FIRST TO ADMIT FEELING DEPLETED AS
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  • HE STRUGGLED TO STAY ON FIRE FOR GOD IN A SECULAR
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  • INDUSTRY, BUT DESPITE THE RIGGERS OF SHOW BUSINESS,
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  • ANTHONY'S REMAINED CLOSE TO HIS FIRST LOVE,
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  • THE CHURCH.
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  • HE'S GROWN TO EMBRACE HIS LIFE, HERITAGE,
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  • AND CALLING.
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  • AND THAT BEAUTIFUL VOICE WILL CONTINUE VIBRATING
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  • THE DOORS OF THE CHURCH AND BEYOND FOR
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  • DECADES TO COME.
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  • ANTHONY EVANS HERE ON PRAISE.
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  • [APPLAUSE]
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  • - I FEEL LIKE THE BEST WAY TO START AN
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  • INTERVIEW WITH YOU IS TO JUST MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY IS
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  • CLEAR ON THE FACT THAT ANYTHING GOOD YOU KNOW
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  • ABOUT MUSIC CAME FROM YOUR BIG SISTER.
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  • [LAUGHTER]
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  • - NO, IT DIDN'T.
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  • - NO, IT DOESN'T. - BUT SHE'S A GREAT SINGER
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  • THOUGH, JUST IN CASE YOU DIDN'T KNOW.
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  • BUT SHE DIDN'T TEACH ME HOW TO SING.
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  • [LAUGHTER]
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  • - OF COURSE EVERYBODY KNOWS YOU, MOST PEOPLE
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  • KNOWS KNOW YOU FOR YOUR MUSIC, FOR YOUR SINGING.
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  • YOU'VE BEEN LEADING WORSHIP, YOU'VE BEEN
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  • SINGING IN CHURCHES AND VENUES REALLY ACROSS
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  • THE WORLD.
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  • YOU JUST GOT BACK FROM I ALWAYS WANT TO
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  • SAY BELGIUM.
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  • BUT YOU WEREN'T IN BELGIUM.
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  • YOU WERE IN --
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  • - BERLIN.
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  • - YOU WERE IN BERLIN RECENTLY SINGING THERE,
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  • SO LITERALLY YOUR GIFT HAS TAKEN YOU ALL OVER
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  • THE WORLD.
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  • THAT'S WHAT FOLKS MOSTLY KNOW YOU FOR, BUT A LOT
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  • OF TIMES WHEN YOU'RE STANDING ON A PLATFORM
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  • PEOPLE JUST HAVE THIS PICTURE THEY CREATE ABOUT
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  • WHAT YOUR LIFE ACTUALLY LOOKS LIKE, AND THEY
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  • ASSUME THAT YOU HAVEN'T FACED THE SAME STRUGGLES
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  • THEY HAVE.
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  • THEY ASSUME THAT THERE AREN'T THE SAME THINGS
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  • THEY ARE FACING IN THEIR LIFE HAPPENING IN YOURS,
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  • AND THAT'S WHY I APPRECIATE SO MUCH WHAT
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  • WE REALLY CAME TO TALK ABOUT AND THAT'S THIS
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  • RIGHT HERE, UNEXPECTED PLACES, THAT YOU WROTE
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  • THIS BOOK SO YOU COULD BE VULNERABLE AND AUTHENTIC.
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  • WHY DID YOU THINK THIS WAS IMPORTANT?
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  • - I THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT -WELL, WHEN THE
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  • PUBLISHER, WHEN W PUBLISHING ASKED ME TO
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  • WRITE THIS BOOK AT FIRST I WAS LIKE, ARE YOU ALL
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  • TRYING TO GET TO MY SISTER OR MY DAD?
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  • BECAUSE IT FELT LIKE WHY ARE YOU ALL CALLING ME TO
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  • WRITE A BOOK?
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  • I'M THE SINGER OF THE FAMILY.
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  • MY SISTER WRITES.
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  • MY DAD WRITES.
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  • BUT THEY SAID TO ME ANTHONY, WE BELIEVE THAT
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  • THE TIP OF THE ICEBERG IS WORSHIP LEADING AS IT
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  • RELATES TO YOU IN YOUR LIFE.
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  • WE WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S UNDERNEATH THE
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  • SURFACE THAT LED US TO WHAT WE SEE, BUT WE KNOW
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  • THERE'S A BIGGER PICTURE UNDERNEATH THE SURFACE
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  • AND A LOT OF TIMES THAT BIGGER PICTURE MAKES YOU
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  • MORE RELATABLE TO PEOPLE THAT YOU'RE NOT JUST ON
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  • STAGE SINGING AND COMMUNICATING IN KIND OF
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  • A POLISHED WAY.
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  • SOMETIMES THAT CAN MAKE YOU FEEL FAR FROM THE
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  • AUDIENCE, SO GROWING UP I HAD PEOPLE WHO DECIDED TO
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  • BE HONEST, VULNERABLE, AND AUTHENTIC WITH ME ON
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  • MY JOURNEY, NOT NECESSARILY JUST IN
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  • BOOKS, LIKE PEOPLE IN MY LIFE.
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  • AND IT ALWAYS HELPED ME IN MY JOURNEY, AND I
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  • THOUGHT IF I COULD -I HAD TO MAKE A DEAL WITH THEM.
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  • WHEN I WAS DOING THIS BOOK, I HAD TO WRITE
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  • MICRO CHAPTERS BECAUSE I'M NOT A BIG READER.
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  • I HAVE THE ATTENTION SPAN -- I DON'T HAVE A GREAT
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  • ATTENTION SPAN.
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  • - NO, YOU DON'T.
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  • [LAUGHTER]
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  • - AS MY SISTER, SHE KNOWS THAT.
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  • SO I WAS LIKE IF I CAN WRITE MICRO CHAPTERS,
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  • FOUR OR FIVE PAGES, YOU CAN SIT DOWN AND GET WHAT
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  • THE POINT IS AND THEN MOVE, THEN I CAN WRITE
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  • THE BOOK.
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  • - WELL, A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE GOING TO
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  • APPRECIATE THAT.
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  • I APPRECIATED WHEN I WAS READING
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  • THIS BOOK.
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  • I READ, NO JOKE, NOT JUST BECAUSE I'M YOUR
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  • SISTER, I READ THIS SUCKER IN ABOUT, YOU
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  • KNOW, I DON'T KNOW, 2 AND A HALF, 3 HOURS.
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  • I JUST SAT DOWN AND COULD NOT STOP TURNING THE PAGES.
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  • THIS IS A GOOD BOOK, ANTHONY!
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  • - THANK YOU.
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  • - IT'S AWESOME.
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  • AND I LOVED READING REALLY IT'S YOUR STORY.
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  • REALLY YOU TAKE US FROM THE CHAPTERS OF YOUR
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  • LIFE, THE STRUGGLES THAT YOU FACED IN THOSE
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  • CHAPTERS OF LIFE, AND HOW THE LORD ACTUALLY USED
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  • THAT STRUGGLE TO MAKE YOU THE MAN YOU ARE TODAY.
  • 00:10:44.160 --> 00:10:47.160
  • SO I DO WANT TO ASK ABOUT SOME OF THAT BECAUSE I
  • 00:10:47.180 --> 00:10:49.160
  • THINK PEOPLE LOOK AT OUR FAMILY AND THEY MAKE
  • 00:10:49.180 --> 00:10:52.190
  • ASSUMPTIONS BECAUSE THEY SEE OUR FAMILY NOW.
  • 00:10:52.210 --> 00:10:55.250
  • THEY SEE GROWN KIDS WHO ARE SERVING THE LORD AND
  • 00:10:55.270 --> 00:10:59.170
  • THEY THINK WE WERE ALL LITTLE ANGELS WHEN WE
  • 00:10:59.190 --> 00:11:02.230
  • WERE GROWING UP, AND WE JUST SAT AROUND THE
  • 00:11:02.250 --> 00:11:05.120
  • DINNER TABLE WHILE DAD DID DEVOTIONS.
  • 00:11:05.140 --> 00:11:07.070
  • YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING WAS JUST PERFECT.
  • 00:11:07.090 --> 00:11:09.020
  • AND WE HAD A GOOD UPBRINGING BUT THERE WAS A
  • 00:11:09.040 --> 00:11:11.110
  • LOT OF STRUGGLE BEING A PK PARTICULARLY FOR YOU
  • 00:11:11.130 --> 00:11:15.020
  • BECAUSE YOU FELT A LITTLE LOST IN THAT SHUFFLE OF
  • 00:11:15.040 --> 00:11:17.130
  • THAT FISH BOWL OF BEING A PREACHER'S KID.
  • 00:11:17.150 --> 00:11:19.150
  • - RIGHT.
  • 00:11:19.170 --> 00:11:20.250
  • - AND FOR THOSE PEOPLE THAT MIGHT NOT BE AWARE
  • 00:11:20.270 --> 00:11:22.230
  • OF WHO OUR DAD IS, WHY DON'T YOU KIND OF TALK A
  • 00:11:22.250 --> 00:11:24.250
  • LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR UPBRINGING AND SOME OF
  • 00:11:24.270 --> 00:11:26.060
  • THE STRUGGLES YOU FACED IN THAT.
  • 00:11:26.080 --> 00:11:27.190
  • - WELL, OUR DAD IS A PASTOR.
  • 00:11:27.210 --> 00:11:29.090
  • HIS NAME IS DOCTOR TONY EVANS.
  • 00:11:29.110 --> 00:11:30.150
  • WE'RE HERE IN DALLAS.
  • 00:11:30.170 --> 00:11:31.160
  • THIS IS WHERE HIS CHURCH IS.
  • 00:11:31.180 --> 00:11:32.190
  • HE'S AN AMAZING MAN.
  • 00:11:32.210 --> 00:11:33.230
  • - HE'S A GOOD PASTOR.
  • 00:11:33.250 --> 00:11:34.210
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:11:34.230 --> 00:11:35.180
  • - YEAH.
  • 00:11:35.200 --> 00:11:37.180
  • - HE'S A GREAT MAN.
  • 00:11:37.200 --> 00:11:39.040
  • BOTH OF OUR PARENTS ARE GREAT PEOPLE.
  • 00:11:39.060 --> 00:11:42.000
  • WHAT MAKES THEM GREAT AND I'LL SAY THIS, I SAY THIS
  • 00:11:42.020 --> 00:11:44.080
  • PUBLICLY ALL THE TIME.
  • 00:11:44.100 --> 00:11:45.170
  • WHAT MAKES OUR PARENTS GREAT IS THEY WERE THE
  • 00:11:45.190 --> 00:11:46.180
  • SAME OFF STAGE AS THEY WERE ON.
  • 00:11:46.200 --> 00:11:49.080
  • AND WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH PREACHERS KIDS,
  • 00:11:49.100 --> 00:11:51.150
  • WE'RE ALREADY A LITTLE BIT CRAZY ANYWAY.
  • 00:11:51.170 --> 00:11:53.120
  • LIKE WE'RE A LITTLE BIT BORDERLINE.
  • 00:11:53.140 --> 00:11:54.140
  • - SPEAK FOR YOURSELF.
  • 00:11:54.160 --> 00:11:55.120
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:11:55.140 --> 00:11:57.100
  • - WELL --I'M GOING TO INTERVIEW HER ONE TIME
  • 00:11:57.120 --> 00:11:58.150
  • AND YOU'LL GET TO HEAR THE STUFF.
  • 00:11:58.170 --> 00:11:59.140
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:11:59.160 --> 00:12:01.060
  • SO IT WAS HARD GROWING UP A PREACHERS KID.
  • 00:12:01.080 --> 00:12:05.150
  • I START THE BOOK TALKING ABOUT WHEN I WAS A CHILD,
  • 00:12:05.170 --> 00:12:08.280
  • WHEN I WAS 12 AND 13 IT WAS THE GLORY DAYS OF AN
  • 00:12:09.000 --> 00:12:11.040
  • EVENT CALLED PROMISE KEEPERS, AND THAT WAS
  • 00:12:11.060 --> 00:12:13.000
  • HUGE AND MY DAD WAS ONE OF THE KEYNOTE SPEAKERS
  • 00:12:13.020 --> 00:12:14.150
  • SO WE GOT TO GO ON TRIPS WITH HIM.
  • 00:12:14.170 --> 00:12:16.120
  • WE ALL KIND OF HAD THOSE SPECIAL MOMENTS WITH HIM,
  • 00:12:16.140 --> 00:12:19.060
  • AND I REMEMBER BEING AT TEXAS STADIUM HERE IN
  • 00:12:19.080 --> 00:12:21.280
  • DALLAS LIKE BACK WHEN 70.000 MEN WOULD SHOW UP
  • 00:12:22.000 --> 00:12:25.020
  • TO THESE EVENTS AND HEARING THE AUDIENCE ROAR.
  • 00:12:25.040 --> 00:12:27.180
  • MY DAD IS SO GOOD AT USING ILLUSTRATIONS AND
  • 00:12:27.200 --> 00:12:30.060
  • MAKING MAMMOTH POINTS AND HE WAS DOING ONE OF HIS
  • 00:12:30.080 --> 00:12:34.080
  • MOMENTS AND THE AUDIENCE WAS STARTING TO ROAR.
  • 00:12:34.100 --> 00:12:38.020
  • AND I REMEMBER SITTING BACKSTAGE AT 12 AND 13
  • 00:12:38.040 --> 00:12:39.100
  • THINKING I CAN NEVER BE HIM.
  • 00:12:39.120 --> 00:12:40.280
  • WHILE THE AUDIENCE IS ROARING, I WOULD BE LIKE
  • 00:12:41.000 --> 00:12:42.160
  • I CAN NEVER BE HIM.
  • 00:12:42.180 --> 00:12:43.250
  • - DID YOU FEEL THE PRESSURE BECAUSE YOU'VE
  • 00:12:43.270 --> 00:12:45.180
  • GOT DAD'S NAME.
  • 00:12:45.200 --> 00:12:46.230
  • YOU KNOW, YOU'RE A JUNIOR.
  • 00:12:46.250 --> 00:12:47.260
  • - YEAH.
  • 00:12:47.280 --> 00:12:49.030
  • - DID YOU JUST FEEL LIKE PEOPLE HAD THIS
  • 00:12:49.050 --> 00:12:50.080
  • EXPECTATION ON YOU THAT YOU WERE SUPPOSED
  • 00:12:50.100 --> 00:12:51.140
  • TO BE THAT?
  • 00:12:51.160 --> 00:12:52.120
  • - YEAH, FOR SURE.
  • 00:12:52.140 --> 00:12:53.280
  • BEFORE THAT, THE CROWD MADE ME FEEL THE
  • 00:12:54.000 --> 00:12:55.110
  • EXPECTATION AND NOT JUST THAT CROWD.
  • 00:12:55.130 --> 00:12:57.020
  • THAT'S THE PROVERBIAL CROWD, THE CHURCH CROWD.
  • 00:12:57.040 --> 00:12:58.280
  • ANYBODY WHO KNEW WHO HE WAS KNEW THAT I HAD HIS
  • 00:12:59.000 --> 00:13:02.100
  • NAME AND THEY WOULD SAY THINGS LIKE YOU'RE GOING
  • 00:13:02.120 --> 00:13:04.160
  • TO BE A PREACHER LIKE YOUR DAD WHEN YOU GROW UP?
  • 00:13:04.180 --> 00:13:06.020
  • YOU HAVE NO IDEA FOR A KID LIKE ME, THE WAY I'M
  • 00:13:06.040 --> 00:13:08.140
  • BUILT I'M A PEACEMAKER.
  • 00:13:08.160 --> 00:13:11.080
  • I'M THE THIRD CHILD PEACEMAKER.
  • 00:13:11.100 --> 00:13:12.140
  • I WANT EVERYBODY TO BE HAPPY.
  • 00:13:12.160 --> 00:13:13.200
  • SO I STARTED PERFORMING TO MAKE EVERYBODY
  • 00:13:13.220 --> 00:13:15.250
  • HAPPY AND TRYING TO --MY WHOLE RELATIONSHIP WITH
  • 00:13:15.270 --> 00:13:19.190
  • THE LORD STARTED AT A PERFORMANCE TO MAKE
  • 00:13:19.210 --> 00:13:21.020
  • EVERYBODY HAPPY WITH WHO I WAS.
  • 00:13:21.040 --> 00:13:23.070
  • - NOW, LET ME ASK YOU THIS BECAUSE I DON'T WANT
  • 00:13:23.090 --> 00:13:25.250
  • TO CUT YOU OFF BECAUSE I DO WANT TO CONTINUE
  • 00:13:25.270 --> 00:13:27.200
  • HEARING THIS STORY, BUT IT IS THERE ANYTHING
  • 00:13:27.220 --> 00:13:30.090
  • -BECAUSE I'M THINKING ABOUT THE PARENT WATCHING
  • 00:13:30.110 --> 00:13:32.220
  • THIS RIGHT NOW, AND I'M WONDERING IS THERE
  • 00:13:32.240 --> 00:13:34.050
  • ANYTHING MOM OR DAD COULD HAVE DONE TO TAKE THAT
  • 00:13:34.070 --> 00:13:37.090
  • PRESSURE OFF YOU.
  • 00:13:37.110 --> 00:13:38.170
  • BECAUSE I REMEMBER ABOUT MOM AND DAD THAT ONE OF
  • 00:13:38.190 --> 00:13:40.270
  • THE GREAT THINGS ABOUT THEM WAS THAT THEY WERE
  • 00:13:40.290 --> 00:13:42.090
  • CONSTANTLY REMINDING US YOU DO NOT HAVE A
  • 00:13:42.110 --> 00:13:44.120
  • RESPONSIBILITY TO THE CHURCH.
  • 00:13:44.140 --> 00:13:46.000
  • YOU HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO US AS YOUR PARENTS AND
  • 00:13:46.020 --> 00:13:48.070
  • TO THE LORD BUT WE ARE NOT PUTTING THE PRESSURE
  • 00:13:48.090 --> 00:13:50.030
  • ON YOU TO BE SOMETHING FOR THE CHURCH.
  • 00:13:50.050 --> 00:13:52.140
  • SO I REMEMBER THAT THEY TRIED AS BEST THEY COULD
  • 00:13:52.160 --> 00:13:55.240
  • TO TAKE THAT PRESSURE OFF OF US, BUT IS THERE
  • 00:13:55.260 --> 00:13:57.110
  • ANYTHING FROM YOUR VANTAGE POINT THAT WOULD
  • 00:13:57.130 --> 00:13:59.130
  • HAVE BEEN EVEN MORE HELPFUL FOR YOU TO JUST
  • 00:13:59.150 --> 00:14:01.260
  • FEEL FREE TO BE WHO YOU WERE AND NOT BE JUST A
  • 00:14:01.280 --> 00:14:04.020
  • LITTLE MINIATURE TONY EVANS?
  • 00:14:04.040 --> 00:14:05.230
  • - YEAH.
  • 00:14:05.250 --> 00:14:08.020
  • WELL, IT'S VERY INTERESTING BECAUSE YOU
  • 00:14:08.040 --> 00:14:09.100
  • MENTIONED WHAT OUR PARENTS DID BECAUSE THE
  • 00:14:09.120 --> 00:14:11.060
  • PRESSURE DIDN'T COME FROM THEM.
  • 00:14:11.080 --> 00:14:13.230
  • SO THERE WAS A LOT OF TIMES MY MOM WOULD SET ME
  • 00:14:13.250 --> 00:14:16.230
  • DOWN AND GO, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE
  • 00:14:16.250 --> 00:14:18.080
  • YOUR DAD.
  • 00:14:18.100 --> 00:14:19.170
  • SHE WOULD SAY THOSE WORDS TO ME.
  • 00:14:19.190 --> 00:14:20.260
  • YOU KNOW YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE YOUR DAD, RIGHT?
  • 00:14:20.280 --> 00:14:22.080
  • I FEEL LIKE A LOT OF THINGS WERE OUT OF THEIR
  • 00:14:22.100 --> 00:14:23.210
  • CONTROL HONESTLY.
  • 00:14:23.230 --> 00:14:25.100
  • A LOT OF THE PRESSURE COMING IN WAS OUT OF
  • 00:14:25.120 --> 00:14:26.290
  • THEIR CONTROL.
  • 00:14:27.010 --> 00:14:28.080
  • IT'S LIKE WE'RE THE PASTORS OF THEIR CHURCH
  • 00:14:28.100 --> 00:14:30.060
  • AND YOU'RE GOING TO GO TO THAT CHURCH AND THAT'S
  • 00:14:30.080 --> 00:14:31.230
  • JUST GOING TO HAPPEN THERE, YOU KNOW.
  • 00:14:31.250 --> 00:14:33.050
  • - YEAH.
  • 00:14:33.070 --> 00:14:34.240
  • PEOPLE MEAN WELL WHEN THEY'RE SAYING THINGS TO
  • 00:14:34.260 --> 00:14:36.260
  • YOU THAT PUT THE LOAD ON.
  • 00:14:36.280 --> 00:14:39.000
  • - BUT I'M JUST BUILT DIFFERENT.
  • 00:14:39.020 --> 00:14:40.170
  • THERE'S 4 KIDS IN OUR FAMILY.
  • 00:14:40.190 --> 00:14:42.140
  • OUT OF THE FOUR OF US, CRYSTAL OUR OLDEST SISTER
  • 00:14:42.160 --> 00:14:45.120
  • IS THE LOGICAL ANALYTICAL ONE.
  • 00:14:45.140 --> 00:14:47.130
  • PRISCILLA IS MISS PERSONALITY.
  • 00:14:47.150 --> 00:14:48.230
  • GROWING UP SHE WOULD GET IN SO MUCH TROUBLE FOR
  • 00:14:48.250 --> 00:14:50.090
  • TALKING ALL THE TIME.
  • 00:14:50.110 --> 00:14:51.130
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:14:51.150 --> 00:14:52.230
  • - I DON'T RECALL THAT.
  • 00:14:52.250 --> 00:14:54.100
  • NOW IT JUST MAKES A LOT OF SENSE SO PEOPLE WANT
  • 00:14:54.120 --> 00:14:56.130
  • TO HEAR HER TALK ALL THE TIME.
  • 00:14:56.150 --> 00:14:59.060
  • AND I'M THE EMOTIONAL ONE.
  • 00:14:59.080 --> 00:15:00.240
  • SO EVERYTHING IN MY LIFE -MY FATHER ALWAYS SAYS,
  • 00:15:00.260 --> 00:15:03.090
  • AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT LATER, YOUR EMOTIONS
  • 00:15:03.110 --> 00:15:05.040
  • CAN'T BE THE ENGINE.
  • 00:15:05.060 --> 00:15:06.120
  • THEY HAVE TO BE THE CABOOSE OF YOUR LIFE OR
  • 00:15:06.140 --> 00:15:07.170
  • YOU'LL BE ALL OVER THE PLACE.
  • 00:15:07.190 --> 00:15:09.060
  • AND GROWING UP MY EMOTIONS WERE THE ENGINE,
  • 00:15:09.080 --> 00:15:11.130
  • SO I WAS EASILY AFFECTED BY THINGS.
  • 00:15:11.150 --> 00:15:15.170
  • SO A LOT OF IT WAS INTANGIBLE AND I CAN'T
  • 00:15:15.190 --> 00:15:17.030
  • SAY THEY COULD HAVE DONE THIS AND IT WOULD HAVE
  • 00:15:17.050 --> 00:15:18.170
  • BEEN BETTER BECAUSE THE WAY THAT I WAS BUILT
  • 00:15:18.190 --> 00:15:21.000
  • WASN'T SOMETHING YOU COULD GRAB ONTO, YOU KNOW.
  • 00:15:21.020 --> 00:15:22.290
  • - DO YOU THINK THAT DAD BECAUSE, OKAY, STARTED
  • 00:15:23.010 --> 00:15:25.260
  • OUT WITH THE 2 GIRLS SO IT WAS CRYSTAL AND THEN ME.
  • 00:15:25.280 --> 00:15:28.150
  • SO HE HAD 2 DAUGHTERS AND THEN FINALLY HE
  • 00:15:28.170 --> 00:15:30.050
  • HAS A SON.
  • 00:15:30.070 --> 00:15:32.120
  • - RIGHT.
  • 00:15:32.140 --> 00:15:33.220
  • - DO YOU THINK THAT DAD HAD JUST INTRINSICALLY
  • 00:15:33.240 --> 00:15:36.080
  • THESE VISIONS OF A FOOTBALL PLAYER, YOU KNOW.
  • 00:15:36.100 --> 00:15:39.190
  • YOU KNOW, DAD IS INTO FOOTBALL.
  • 00:15:39.210 --> 00:15:40.230
  • SPORTS IS HIS THING.
  • 00:15:40.250 --> 00:15:42.030
  • OR EVEN THE NEXT PASTOR AT THE CHURCH
  • 00:15:42.050 --> 00:15:45.060
  • OR MINISTRY.
  • 00:15:45.080 --> 00:15:46.160
  • DO YOU THINK DAD HAD A VISION FOR YOU THAT HE
  • 00:15:46.180 --> 00:15:48.210
  • HAD TO SHIFT AS YOU GREW UP AND HE REALIZED YOU
  • 00:15:48.230 --> 00:15:51.270
  • WERE WIRED DIFFERENTLY THAN MAYBE WHAT HIS
  • 00:15:51.290 --> 00:15:53.220
  • EXPECTATION FOR HIS FIRSTBORN SON?
  • 00:15:53.240 --> 00:15:56.270
  • - I THINK HE HAD A VISION, BUT I DON'T THINK -- HE
  • 00:15:56.290 --> 00:15:59.220
  • WASN'T HOLDING ME FAST TO THAT.
  • 00:15:59.240 --> 00:16:01.290
  • I THINK EVERY DAD WHEN THEY SEE A KID THAT'S THE
  • 00:16:02.010 --> 00:16:04.210
  • STATURE OF ME IS LIKE HE'S GOING TO BE A FOOTBALL.
  • 00:16:04.230 --> 00:16:06.180
  • LINEBACKER, YOU KNOW THAT WHOLE THING, BUT THAT
  • 00:16:06.200 --> 00:16:08.260
  • WASN'T -I DON'T THINK HE WAS MARRIED TO THAT AT ALL.
  • 00:16:08.280 --> 00:16:11.200
  • JUST EVERY DAD I THINK, TEXAS DAD.
  • 00:16:11.220 --> 00:16:13.230
  • Y'ALL WANT TO GO -- FRIDAY NIGHT LIGHTS IS A THING HERE.
  • 00:16:13.250 --> 00:16:17.000
  • THAT'S A THING.
  • 00:16:17.020 --> 00:16:18.060
  • AND I STOPPED.
  • 00:16:18.080 --> 00:16:21.070
  • I DIDN'T MENTION OUR YOUNGER BROTHER WHO HE IS
  • 00:16:21.090 --> 00:16:23.210
  • THE FOOTBALL PLAYER AND THE PREACHER.
  • 00:16:23.230 --> 00:16:25.060
  • HE DOESN'T HAVE ANY OF THE STUFF THAT I HAVE AS
  • 00:16:25.080 --> 00:16:29.040
  • IT RELATES TO PRESSURE IN MY LIFE.
  • 00:16:29.060 --> 00:16:30.120
  • IT DIDN'T AFFECT ME LIKE IT DID ME, AND HE WAS
  • 00:16:30.140 --> 00:16:31.190
  • RAISED EXACTLY THE SAME WAY THAT I WAS SO
  • 00:16:31.210 --> 00:16:32.230
  • IT'S VARIABLES.
  • 00:16:32.250 --> 00:16:37.000
  • BUT THE BOOK, I'M OBVIOUSLY TALKING ABOUT
  • 00:16:37.020 --> 00:16:38.090
  • MY SPECIFIC JOURNEY AND HOW THESE THINGS AFFECTED
  • 00:16:38.110 --> 00:16:39.250
  • -- HOW GROWING UP IN THE HOME WE GREW UP IN
  • 00:16:39.270 --> 00:16:42.230
  • ALTHOUGH IT'S AN AMAZING HOME WHERE THERE WERE
  • 00:16:42.250 --> 00:16:44.240
  • MOMENTS WHERE I STRUGGLED.
  • 00:16:44.260 --> 00:16:46.190
  • I REALLY DID STRUGGLE, AND I WANTED THE AUDIENCE
  • 00:16:46.210 --> 00:16:49.010
  • TO KNOW THE TRUTH ABOUT THAT IN THIS BOOK.
  • 00:16:49.030 --> 00:16:51.170
  • - YEAH.
  • 00:16:51.190 --> 00:16:53.090
  • SO, YOU KNOW, DID YOU FEEL LIKE YOU WERE
  • 00:16:53.110 --> 00:16:56.070
  • OVERLOOKED IN ANY WAY?
  • 00:16:56.090 --> 00:16:57.250
  • BECAUSE YOU MENTION IN THE BOOK THAT YOU WERE
  • 00:16:57.270 --> 00:16:59.030
  • AN EASY KID.
  • 00:16:59.050 --> 00:16:59.260
  • AND YOU WERE AN EASY KID.
  • 00:16:59.280 --> 00:17:02.010
  • WE ALL HAD OUR LITTLE THINGS THAT MOM AND DAD
  • 00:17:02.030 --> 00:17:05.100
  • HAD TO LOOK AFTER US FOR CERTAIN REASONS IN
  • 00:17:05.120 --> 00:17:07.090
  • DIFFERENT WAYS, PROBABLY THEY WOULD SAY YOU WERE
  • 00:17:07.110 --> 00:17:10.110
  • THE MOST LAID BACK AND THE MOST EASY IN THE
  • 00:17:10.130 --> 00:17:13.110
  • SENSE THAT YOU JUST SEEMED TO ENTERTAIN YOURSELF.
  • 00:17:13.130 --> 00:17:15.170
  • - RIGHT.
  • 00:17:15.190 --> 00:17:18.000
  • - SO IN THAT WITH EVERYBODY ELSE NEEDING TO
  • 00:17:18.020 --> 00:17:19.150
  • BE ATTENDED TO, DID YOU FEEL OVERLOOKED?
  • 00:17:19.170 --> 00:17:21.020
  • - YEAH.
  • 00:17:21.040 --> 00:17:23.080
  • I WOULD SAY UNINTENTIONALLY
  • 00:17:23.100 --> 00:17:25.040
  • OVERLOOKED BECAUSE I'D SAY I'M -THIS IS MY
  • 00:17:25.060 --> 00:17:28.080
  • FAMILY SITTING RIGHT HERE, BUT I'M A VICIOUS
  • 00:17:28.100 --> 00:17:30.080
  • PROTECTOR OF MY FAMILY, SO I DON'T WANT TO SAY
  • 00:17:30.100 --> 00:17:32.080
  • ANYTHING THAT COMES OFF LIKE MY PARENTS
  • 00:17:32.100 --> 00:17:33.250
  • OVERLOOKED US BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T AT ALL.
  • 00:17:33.270 --> 00:17:35.170
  • BUT I WAS UNINTENTIONALLY OVERLOOKED BECAUSE YOU
  • 00:17:35.190 --> 00:17:38.080
  • COULDN'T SEE THE NEED I HAD TANGIBLY.
  • 00:17:38.100 --> 00:17:40.210
  • YOU COULDN'T SEE THEM.
  • 00:17:40.230 --> 00:17:42.150
  • LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE HAD TANGIBLE THINGS LIKE
  • 00:17:42.170 --> 00:17:43.220
  • PRISCILLA GETS IN TROUBLE ALL THE TIME.
  • 00:17:43.240 --> 00:17:44.240
  • WE DEAL WITH HER.
  • 00:17:44.260 --> 00:17:46.020
  • - I DON'T REMEMBER THAT.
  • 00:17:46.040 --> 00:17:47.000
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:17:47.020 --> 00:17:48.030
  • - THAT WAS A THING.
  • 00:17:48.050 --> 00:17:49.270
  • SO THERE WERE OTHER NEEDS WITH OUR OTHER SIBLINGS
  • 00:17:49.290 --> 00:17:52.120
  • ALSO, BUT MINE JUST WENT UNATTENDED FOR LONGER,
  • 00:17:52.140 --> 00:17:56.090
  • BUT OUR MOM SAID THIS TO ME ONE TIME.
  • 00:17:56.110 --> 00:17:58.040
  • AND I'LL NEVER FORGET IT.
  • 00:17:58.060 --> 00:17:59.130
  • SHE SAID WHILE YOU WERE WONDERING WHY DON'T THEY
  • 00:17:59.150 --> 00:18:03.090
  • GIVE ME THE EXTRA ATTENTION MY SIBLINGS
  • 00:18:03.110 --> 00:18:05.040
  • GET, THEY WERE PRAYING AND THANKING GOD THAT WE
  • 00:18:05.060 --> 00:18:07.150
  • HAVE AN EASY CHILD.
  • 00:18:07.170 --> 00:18:09.000
  • THAT WAS HAPPENING AT THE SAME TIME.
  • 00:18:09.020 --> 00:18:10.170
  • - YES.
  • 00:18:10.190 --> 00:18:12.100
  • - SO WHAT CAN YOU DO WITH THAT?
  • 00:18:12.120 --> 00:18:15.230
  • WHAT CAN YOU DO WITH THAT EXCEPT NOW IN MY LIFE GOD
  • 00:18:15.250 --> 00:18:19.230
  • HAS USED A LOT OF THAT STUFF.
  • 00:18:19.250 --> 00:18:21.140
  • I WAS A VERY SENSITIVE PERSON, SO ALL THAT HAS
  • 00:18:21.160 --> 00:18:24.290
  • LED ME TO WHAT I GET TO DO NOW.
  • 00:18:25.010 --> 00:18:27.070
  • - AND WHY DON'T YOU THINK YOU ALLOWED THOSE
  • 00:18:27.090 --> 00:18:30.040
  • NEEDS TO BE KNOWN?
  • 00:18:30.060 --> 00:18:31.080
  • IN OTHER WORDS--
  • 00:18:31.100 --> 00:18:32.100
  • - PEACEMAKER.
  • 00:18:32.120 --> 00:18:33.190
  • - BECAUSE WE WERE ASKED THOSE KINDS OF QUESTIONS.
  • 00:18:33.210 --> 00:18:35.110
  • WE WERE ASKED, ARE YOU OKAY?
  • 00:18:35.130 --> 00:18:37.010
  • WHAT DO YOU NEED TO TALK ABOUT?
  • 00:18:37.030 --> 00:18:38.100
  • THOSE WERE QUESTIONS WE WERE ASKED, SO WAS THERE
  • 00:18:38.120 --> 00:18:41.010
  • ANY REASONS SPECIFICALLY WHY YOU CHOSEN TO DIVULGE
  • 00:18:41.030 --> 00:18:43.080
  • HOW YOU WERE FEELING?
  • 00:18:43.100 --> 00:18:44.160
  • - BECAUSE THE WAY I PROGRAMMED MYSELF WAS
  • 00:18:44.180 --> 00:18:47.150
  • DON'T DISTURB THE PEACE.
  • 00:18:47.170 --> 00:18:50.050
  • SO IF THERE'S AN ISSUE, JUST DEAL WITH IT AND
  • 00:18:50.070 --> 00:18:52.090
  • YOU'LL BE ALL RIGHT.
  • 00:18:52.110 --> 00:18:54.050
  • I'VE LEARNED LATER IN MY LIFE THAT NO, IF THERE'S
  • 00:18:54.070 --> 00:18:56.080
  • AN ISSUE AND YOU STUFF IT DOWN, YOU'LL HAVE A LOT
  • 00:18:56.100 --> 00:18:58.000
  • OF ISSUES LATER, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?
  • 00:18:58.020 --> 00:19:00.110
  • BUT THAT'S WHAT I DID.
  • 00:19:00.130 --> 00:19:02.180
  • THAT'S WHAT I DID.
  • 00:19:02.200 --> 00:19:03.260
  • AND IF I FAST FORWARD, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THIS BUT
  • 00:19:03.280 --> 00:19:05.180
  • IF I FAST FORWARD TO LATER IN MY LIFE I WAS ON
  • 00:19:05.200 --> 00:19:08.210
  • STAGE ON THE VERGE OF DEPRESSION AND HAVING
  • 00:19:08.230 --> 00:19:11.190
  • LIKE A BREAKDOWN, 100% BREAKDOWN BECAUSE I JUST
  • 00:19:11.210 --> 00:19:14.110
  • STUFFED EVERYTHING INSIDE CONSTANTLY.
  • 00:19:14.130 --> 00:19:16.220
  • AND IN OUR CULTURE WE'RE TAUGHT, ESPECIALLY THE
  • 00:19:16.240 --> 00:19:20.270
  • AFRICAN-AMERICAN CULTURE YOU'RE TAUGHT
  • 00:19:20.290 --> 00:19:22.030
  • THAT'S A MAN.
  • 00:19:22.050 --> 00:19:23.110
  • JUST STUFF ALL THAT STUFF DOWN AND DEAL WITH IT.
  • 00:19:23.130 --> 00:19:25.150
  • YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?
  • 00:19:25.170 --> 00:19:26.160
  • SUCK IT UP.
  • 00:19:26.180 --> 00:19:27.280
  • BUT THERE COMES A POINT WHERE IT TAKES MORE
  • 00:19:28.000 --> 00:19:30.090
  • STRENGTH TO BE VULNERABLE THAN IT DOES TO STUFF
  • 00:19:30.110 --> 00:19:31.230
  • STUFF DOWN.
  • 00:19:31.250 --> 00:19:32.260
  • - THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:19:32.280 --> 00:19:34.000
  • - SO I MADE THE DECISION TO BE VULNERABLE
  • 00:19:34.020 --> 00:19:36.190
  • AND DEAL WITH ME.
  • 00:19:36.210 --> 00:19:38.210
  • - WELL, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU TALK
  • 00:19:38.230 --> 00:19:39.290
  • ABOUT IN YOUR BOOK, WHICH IS AN INCREDIBLE BOOK,
  • 00:19:40.010 --> 00:19:42.130
  • UNEXPECTED PLACES, THE THOUGHTS ON GOD, FAITH
  • 00:19:42.150 --> 00:19:45.110
  • AND FINDING YOUR VOICE.
  • 00:19:45.130 --> 00:19:46.280
  • ONE OF THE THINGS YOU TALK ABOUT THAT OUR
  • 00:19:47.000 --> 00:19:48.180
  • CHILDHOOD AND OUR PARENTS, THEY WOULD AGREE
  • 00:19:48.200 --> 00:19:52.010
  • THAT IT WASN'T PERFECT, THEY WERE NOT PERFECT,
  • 00:19:52.030 --> 00:19:53.240
  • NO PARENTS ARE. THEY WOULD AGREE WITH THAT.
  • 00:19:53.260 --> 00:19:55.160
  • BUT THEY WERE PURPOSEFUL AND INTENTIONAL ABOUT THE
  • 00:19:55.180 --> 00:19:58.200
  • THINGS THAT THEY THOUGHT WERE IMPORTANT FOR OUR
  • 00:19:58.220 --> 00:20:00.180
  • LIVES AS A FAMILY.
  • 00:20:00.200 --> 00:20:02.230
  • ONE OF THE THINGS THAT DAD AND MOM WERE
  • 00:20:02.250 --> 00:20:04.190
  • INTENTIONAL ABOUT WAS SEEING EACH OF OUR GIFTS
  • 00:20:04.210 --> 00:20:07.050
  • AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO FOSTER THOSE.
  • 00:20:07.070 --> 00:20:09.060
  • SO REALLY, YOU BEING STEERED TOWARD MUSIC IS
  • 00:20:09.080 --> 00:20:12.080
  • AS A RESULT OF OUR PARENTS GOING
  • 00:20:12.100 --> 00:20:13.220
  • THAT BOY CAN SING.
  • 00:20:13.240 --> 00:20:15.220
  • - RIGHT, BUT THEY'LL TELL YOU THAT THEY
  • 00:20:15.240 --> 00:20:17.060
  • FIGURED THAT OUT LATER IN LIFE.
  • 00:20:17.080 --> 00:20:18.140
  • I WAS 17, 16, 17 WHEN THEY FIGURED THAT OUT AND
  • 00:20:18.160 --> 00:20:21.150
  • THEY WERE LIKE WAIT, DID WE MISS SOMETHING?
  • 00:20:21.170 --> 00:20:23.190
  • WHAT JUST HAPPENED?
  • 00:20:23.210 --> 00:20:25.100
  • I WAS WALKING AROUND THE HOUSE JUST SINGING AND--
  • 00:20:25.120 --> 00:20:27.110
  • - WE WERE ALL LIKE DID HE JUST HIT THAT NOTE?
  • 00:20:27.130 --> 00:20:30.210
  • - YEAH AND I NEVER, I NEVER THOUGHT, IN CHOIR
  • 00:20:30.230 --> 00:20:32.140
  • PRACTICE GROWING UP AT OUR CHURCH, YOU HAVE TO
  • 00:20:32.160 --> 00:20:34.050
  • BE INVOLVED IN A MINISTRY.
  • 00:20:34.070 --> 00:20:35.130
  • YOU DON'T JUST COME TO OUR CHURCH AND CHILL.
  • 00:20:35.150 --> 00:20:36.280
  • ONE OF THE THINGS IS YOU HAVE TO BE INVOLVED, SO
  • 00:20:37.000 --> 00:20:38.270
  • AS THE KIDS, WE WERE. AND I REMEMBER THE CHOIR
  • 00:20:38.290 --> 00:20:41.200
  • DIRECTOR USED TO CALL ME OUT AND BE LIKE
  • 00:20:41.220 --> 00:20:43.070
  • EVERYBODY, ANTHONY, YES THAT'S RIGHT, EVERYBODY
  • 00:20:43.090 --> 00:20:45.010
  • SING WHAT ANTHONY JUST SANG.
  • 00:20:45.030 --> 00:20:46.090
  • AND I NEVER THOUGHT THAT WAS A THING.
  • 00:20:46.110 --> 00:20:47.180
  • I THOUGHT I JUST HEARD IT QUICK. I DIDN'T
  • 00:20:47.200 --> 00:20:50.000
  • THINK THAT WAS AN ABILITY THAT NEEDED TO BE FOSTERED.
  • 00:20:50.020 --> 00:20:52.060
  • SO YEAH, AT 16 AND 17 THAT'S WHEN THEY WERE
  • 00:20:52.080 --> 00:20:54.200
  • LIKE UH-OH, WE GOTTA, WE NEED HELP.
  • 00:20:54.220 --> 00:20:57.190
  • - SO YOU ENDED UP GOING TO LIBERTY UNIVERSITY
  • 00:20:57.210 --> 00:20:59.240
  • WHERE YOU SANG.
  • 00:20:59.260 --> 00:21:01.190
  • YOU SANG WITH SOUNDS OF LIBERTY.
  • 00:21:01.210 --> 00:21:03.120
  • JUST DESCRIBE THAT COLLEGE EXPERIENCE.
  • 00:21:03.140 --> 00:21:06.160
  • - WELL, GETTING TO COLLEGE, MY DAD KNEW THE
  • 00:21:06.180 --> 00:21:09.210
  • CHANCELLOR OF LIBERTY UNIVERSITY, SO THEY
  • 00:21:09.230 --> 00:21:11.110
  • TALKED WITHOUT ME KNOWING, AND BEFORE I
  • 00:21:11.130 --> 00:21:13.130
  • KNEW IT, I HAD A SCHOLARSHIP TO GO TO LIBERTY.
  • 00:21:13.150 --> 00:21:17.050
  • AND WHEN YOU GET A SCHOLARSHIP, THAT'S
  • 00:21:17.070 --> 00:21:18.100
  • BASICALLY LIKE THE LORD SAYING--
  • 00:21:18.120 --> 00:21:19.190
  • - THAT'S WHERE YOU GOING.
  • 00:21:19.210 --> 00:21:21.000
  • - THE LORD TELLING YOUR PARENTS YOU'RE ABOUT TO GO
  • 00:21:21.020 --> 00:21:22.080
  • TO LIBERTY. IT'S CLOSE TO FREE SO YOU'RE GOING.
  • 00:21:22.100 --> 00:21:27.160
  • SO I WENT THERE, AND IT WAS A VERY INTERESTING
  • 00:21:27.180 --> 00:21:30.080
  • TIME BECAUSE MY FEELINGS HAD TO FOLLOW MY FEET.
  • 00:21:30.100 --> 00:21:33.080
  • I DIDN'T WANT TO SING.
  • 00:21:33.100 --> 00:21:35.230
  • - SO YOU GOT A SCHOLARSHIP FOR SINGING.
  • 00:21:35.250 --> 00:21:37.100
  • - FOR SINGING, BUT I WANTED TO GO INTO
  • 00:21:37.120 --> 00:21:38.200
  • ANIMAL SCIENCE, BE A VETERINARIAN.
  • 00:21:38.220 --> 00:21:40.190
  • MY CATHARSIS WHICH I TALK ABOUT IN THE BOOK ALSO IS
  • 00:21:40.210 --> 00:21:43.030
  • BEING OUTSIDE, DOING STUFF LIKE THAT.
  • 00:21:43.050 --> 00:21:46.050
  • I HAVE A HORSE NOW.
  • 00:21:46.070 --> 00:21:47.140
  • PEOPLE WOULD NEVER THINK ABOUT THAT ABOUT ME
  • 00:21:47.160 --> 00:21:48.190
  • BUT I'M OUTSIDE GUY. I LOVE THAT.
  • 00:21:48.210 --> 00:21:50.060
  • SO I WANTED TO GO INTO THAT FIELD.
  • 00:21:50.080 --> 00:21:51.150
  • ENDED UP GOING TO LIBERTY.
  • 00:21:51.170 --> 00:21:52.250
  • I WAS IN REHEARSALS FOR TEN HOURS, I MEAN CRAZY
  • 00:21:52.270 --> 00:21:55.090
  • STUFF, AND I DIDN'T WANT TO SING AT THIS LEVEL.
  • 00:21:55.110 --> 00:22:00.050
  • BUT FAST FORWARD, MY FEELINGS STARTED TO
  • 00:22:00.070 --> 00:22:02.290
  • FOLLOW MY FEET, WHICH IS A GREAT LESSON TO LEARN
  • 00:22:03.010 --> 00:22:04.290
  • IN GENERAL IN LIFE A LOT OF TIMES THAT DON'T FEEL
  • 00:22:05.010 --> 00:22:07.290
  • LIKE IT CAN CHANGE, IF YOU JUST GET UP AND START
  • 00:22:08.010 --> 00:22:10.080
  • MOVING. I STARTED TO LOVE WHAT I DO.
  • 00:22:10.100 --> 00:22:14.230
  • - ISN'T THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU KIND OF STUMBLED
  • 00:22:14.250 --> 00:22:17.140
  • INTO WHAT ACTUALLY IS YOUR DESTINY.
  • 00:22:17.160 --> 00:22:20.060
  • YOU STUMBLED INTO THAT BECAUSE YOU HAD YOUR
  • 00:22:20.080 --> 00:22:22.030
  • ACTUAL FATHER, BUT IN A LOT OF PEOPLES' LIVES
  • 00:22:22.050 --> 00:22:24.110
  • IT'S JUST A FATHER FIGURE OR IT'S A MOSES THAT SEES
  • 00:22:24.130 --> 00:22:27.290
  • IN JOSHUA, SOMETHING JOSHUA DOES NOT KNOW HE
  • 00:22:28.010 --> 00:22:31.000
  • HAS THE CAPACITY TO DO, AND SAYS YOU KNOW WHAT,
  • 00:22:31.020 --> 00:22:33.020
  • I'M GONNA PUT YOU AT THE FRONT LINES, AND THEN YOU
  • 00:22:33.040 --> 00:22:35.160
  • JUST SORT OF PUT ONE FOOT IN FRONT OF THE OTHER
  • 00:22:35.180 --> 00:22:37.130
  • BECAUSE YOU HAVE A SCHOLARSHIP, AND ALL OF A
  • 00:22:37.150 --> 00:22:39.000
  • SUDDEN YOU KIND OF STUMBLE INTO WHAT IS THE
  • 00:22:39.020 --> 00:22:41.030
  • PATH THE LORD HAS FOR YOU.
  • 00:22:41.050 --> 00:22:42.150
  • BUT IT WAS NOT EASY.
  • 00:22:42.170 --> 00:22:44.000
  • THAT'S THE THING THAT I THINK PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW
  • 00:22:44.020 --> 00:22:45.270
  • IS THAT YOU KIND OF-- WE SEE YOU NOW STANDING ON
  • 00:22:45.290 --> 00:22:48.000
  • STAGE, YOU WERE ON THE VOICE, A LOT OF TIMES
  • 00:22:48.020 --> 00:22:51.040
  • YOU'VE BEEN ON SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE SINGING BACKUP.
  • 00:22:51.060 --> 00:22:53.180
  • YOU'VE BEEN IN A LOT OF POSITIONS WHERE PEOPLE
  • 00:22:53.200 --> 00:22:55.180
  • SEE YOU NOW, AND THEY DON'T KNOW SORT OF THE
  • 00:22:55.200 --> 00:22:58.190
  • PATH OF HARDSHIP THAT YOU HAD TO TAKE TO GET THERE.
  • 00:22:58.210 --> 00:23:01.110
  • I WANTED TO READ ONE LITTLE EXCERPT FROM YOUR
  • 00:23:01.130 --> 00:23:03.120
  • BOOK. I'M JUST GONNA START RIGHT HERE.
  • 00:23:03.140 --> 00:23:06.190
  • IT SAYS THAT WE WERE GROWING VERY VERY WEARY.
  • 00:23:06.210 --> 00:23:09.150
  • WE HAD A NUMBER OF TOURS, HUNDREDS OF THEM
  • 00:23:09.170 --> 00:23:11.220
  • THROUGHOUT THE YEARS, CONCERTS THROUGHOUT THE
  • 00:23:11.240 --> 00:23:13.130
  • YEAR, AND WE WERE ON THE VERGE OF COLLAPSE.
  • 00:23:13.150 --> 00:23:16.160
  • THE ILLUSION HAS OFTEN BEEN CREATED IN CHRISTIAN
  • 00:23:16.180 --> 00:23:19.030
  • MUSIC THAT SERVICE ALWAYS COMES FIRST, EVEN IF IT'S
  • 00:23:19.050 --> 00:23:22.200
  • TEARING YOU APART INSIDE.
  • 00:23:22.220 --> 00:23:24.070
  • ONE DAY AFTER A SPRING OF BACK-TO-BACK SHOWS,
  • 00:23:24.090 --> 00:23:26.080
  • I WAS FEELING SICK.
  • 00:23:26.100 --> 00:23:27.140
  • MY BODY WAS BEGGING ME TO SLOW DOWN.
  • 00:23:27.160 --> 00:23:29.130
  • AND I HAD GOTTEN TO THAT DANGEROUS PLACE WHERE I
  • 00:23:29.150 --> 00:23:31.230
  • WAS ANXIOUS, EXHAUSTED, EMOTIONAL AND OVERWHELMED.
  • 00:23:31.250 --> 00:23:34.150
  • SICK OR NOT, I STILL HAD TO UNLOAD A BIG
  • 00:23:34.170 --> 00:23:36.290
  • 18 WHEELER, SET UP THE STAGE, GET DRESSED,
  • 00:23:37.010 --> 00:23:39.240
  • PERFORM LIKE EVERYTHING WAS GREAT, TEAR THE STAGE
  • 00:23:39.260 --> 00:23:42.060
  • DOWN, PACK THE GEAR BACK INTO THE TRUCK
  • 00:23:42.080 --> 00:23:44.020
  • AND HIT THE ROAD.
  • 00:23:44.040 --> 00:23:45.160
  • THEN I HAD TO DO IT ALL AGAIN THE NEXT DAY.
  • 00:23:45.180 --> 00:23:48.110
  • I WAS SITTING IN THE DRESSING ROOM WITH ONE OF
  • 00:23:48.130 --> 00:23:49.250
  • THE CHURCHES WE WERE SCHEDULED TO PERFORM AT,
  • 00:23:49.270 --> 00:23:51.130
  • QUIET KIND OF KEEPING TO MYSELF, AND I GUESS MY
  • 00:23:51.150 --> 00:23:54.120
  • DEMEANOR CAME OFF SOUR LIKE I DIDN'T CARE.
  • 00:23:54.140 --> 00:23:56.280
  • I WANTED TO BE RESPECTFUL AND APPRECIATIVE, BUT
  • 00:23:57.000 --> 00:23:58.230
  • SOMETIMES WHEN YOU'RE HURT AND DOG TIRED,
  • 00:23:58.250 --> 00:24:01.060
  • THINGS DON'T COME OUT RIGHT.
  • 00:24:01.080 --> 00:24:02.240
  • SO THE DIRECTOR MARCHED UP TO ME, STARED ME IN MY
  • 00:24:02.260 --> 00:24:05.230
  • FACE AND TOLD ME I WAS WORTHLESS, LAZY AND WOULD
  • 00:24:05.250 --> 00:24:08.290
  • NEVER DO ANYTHING OR ACCOMPLISH ANYTHING
  • 00:24:09.010 --> 00:24:11.210
  • BETTER THAN WHERE I WAS AT THAT MOMENT.
  • 00:24:11.230 --> 00:24:13.230
  • I SAT THERE STUNNED AND NOT KNOWING HOW TO RESPOND.
  • 00:24:13.250 --> 00:24:16.240
  • I GUESS I WAS STILL SUPER NAIVE TO THINK EVERYONE
  • 00:24:16.260 --> 00:24:19.170
  • IN CHRISTENDOM WAS SOFT HEARTED AND SUPER NICE.
  • 00:24:19.190 --> 00:24:24.160
  • HOW DID IT FEEL WHEN YOU RAN INTO PEOPLE LIKE
  • 00:24:24.180 --> 00:24:26.180
  • THAT WHO YOU EXPECTED TO BEHAVE A CERTAIN WAY AND
  • 00:24:26.200 --> 00:24:30.050
  • TO HAVE A CERTAIN ATTITUDE BECAUSE THEY
  • 00:24:30.070 --> 00:24:31.210
  • WERE CHRISTIANS AND YET THEY JUST KEPT TEARING
  • 00:24:31.230 --> 00:24:34.040
  • YOU DOWN ALL OF THOSE YEARS THAT YOU WERE
  • 00:24:34.060 --> 00:24:35.290
  • SERVING IN CHRISTIAN MUSIC IN YOUR EARLY 20'S.
  • 00:24:36.010 --> 00:24:38.150
  • - THAT WAS A HARD LESSON.
  • 00:24:38.170 --> 00:24:40.100
  • WHEN YOU WERE READING THAT STORY AND I'M
  • 00:24:40.120 --> 00:24:41.140
  • RELIVING IT RIGHT HERE.
  • 00:24:41.160 --> 00:24:42.280
  • - I CAN SEE THE TEARS.
  • 00:24:43.000 --> 00:24:44.170
  • - YEAH, YEAH, THAT WASN'T A GOOD MOMENT AT ALL.
  • 00:24:44.190 --> 00:24:48.040
  • I LEARNED-- I THINK OUR PARENTS DID A GREAT JOB
  • 00:24:48.060 --> 00:24:51.220
  • OF IN SOME WAYS SHELTERING US FROM WHAT
  • 00:24:51.240 --> 00:24:54.270
  • YOU MIGHT BE FACING, EVEN IN CHRISTENDOM.
  • 00:24:54.290 --> 00:24:59.000
  • YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? WHAT MIGHT COME.
  • 00:24:59.020 --> 00:25:01.000
  • ONE THING ABOUT THAT IS THAT I, WHICH IS A WHOLE
  • 00:25:01.020 --> 00:25:03.150
  • OTHER THING, THE CONCEPT THAT WHEN YOU'RE IN
  • 00:25:03.170 --> 00:25:07.160
  • MINISTRY YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DRIVE YOURSELF INTO
  • 00:25:07.180 --> 00:25:09.180
  • THE GROUND FOR THE SAKE OF REACHING PEOPLE AND
  • 00:25:09.200 --> 00:25:13.020
  • MINISTERING TO PEOPLE, YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO
  • 00:25:13.040 --> 00:25:14.060
  • SACRIFICE YOUR WELL BEING FOR THAT.
  • 00:25:14.080 --> 00:25:15.250
  • THAT IS A MYTH. THAT WILL RUIN YOUR LIFE.
  • 00:25:15.270 --> 00:25:20.060
  • IF YOU FEEL LIKE THAT IS WHAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO
  • 00:25:20.080 --> 00:25:22.030
  • BE DOING AS A BELIEVER IS HYPER-EXTENDING YOURSELF,
  • 00:25:22.050 --> 00:25:24.250
  • YOU CAN'T-- OBVIOUSLY, IT SOUNDS OKAY BUT YOU CAN'T
  • 00:25:24.270 --> 00:25:28.060
  • MINISTER FROM A PLACE OF BEING EMPTY LIKE THAT.
  • 00:25:28.080 --> 00:25:30.150
  • AND I WAS TAUGHT EARLIER ON THAT, THROUGH THIS
  • 00:25:30.170 --> 00:25:34.220
  • EXPERIENCE THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, THAT THAT
  • 00:25:34.240 --> 00:25:36.030
  • WAS WHAT IT WAS GONNA BE.
  • 00:25:36.050 --> 00:25:37.280
  • - WE HADN'T SEEN THAT GROWING UP.
  • 00:25:38.000 --> 00:25:39.220
  • LIKE OUR FAMILY DIDN'T COME TO A PLACE OF
  • 00:25:39.240 --> 00:25:41.190
  • COLLAPSE BECAUSE MOM AND DAD WERE SO BUSY BUILDING
  • 00:25:41.210 --> 00:25:44.060
  • THE CHURCH THAT THEY DIDN'T ATTEND TO THE SIX
  • 00:25:44.080 --> 00:25:46.150
  • OF US, TO OUR FAMILY LIFE TOGETHER, SO WHEN YOU
  • 00:25:46.170 --> 00:25:49.000
  • EXPERIENCED THAT OUT ON THE ROAD OF EVERYBODY
  • 00:25:49.020 --> 00:25:50.260
  • BEING DOG TIRED AND IGNORING EVEN THEIR OWN
  • 00:25:50.280 --> 00:25:53.160
  • PHYSICAL HEALTH, YOU WERE LIKE WHAT IS THIS?
  • 00:25:53.180 --> 00:25:56.220
  • - YEAH, YEAH. AND I ALWAYS SPEAK UP.
  • 00:25:56.240 --> 00:25:58.090
  • IF I FEEL LIKE SOMETHING--AND THAT
  • 00:25:58.110 --> 00:26:00.100
  • WASN'T REALLY APPRECIATED IN THAT WHOLE SCENARIO
  • 00:26:00.120 --> 00:26:02.200
  • THAT YOU WERE PAINTING RIGHT THERE OR THAT I
  • 00:26:02.220 --> 00:26:03.250
  • PAINTED IN THE BOOK.
  • 00:26:03.270 --> 00:26:05.100
  • YEAH, SO TO HEAR THOSE WORDS COME AT ME,
  • 00:26:05.120 --> 00:26:08.030
  • I LITERALLY, I CANNOT BELIEVE THAT WAS
  • 00:26:08.050 --> 00:26:09.250
  • HAPPENING BUT I--YEAH, I STILL CAN'T BELIEVE THOSE
  • 00:26:09.270 --> 00:26:14.070
  • WORDS WERE SAID TO MY FACE.
  • 00:26:14.090 --> 00:26:16.130
  • - DID YOU BELIEVE ANY OF IT WHEN YOU WERE TOLD YOU
  • 00:26:16.150 --> 00:26:18.220
  • KNOW WHAT, YOU WILL NEVER ACCOMPLISH ANYTHING MORE
  • 00:26:18.240 --> 00:26:21.040
  • THAN WHERE YOU ARE RIGHT NOW.
  • 00:26:21.060 --> 00:26:23.120
  • AT THE TIME, YOU'RE LIKE 22 YEARS OLD.
  • 00:26:23.140 --> 00:26:25.250
  • DID ANY OF THAT STICK WITH YOU AND SORT OF, DID
  • 00:26:25.270 --> 00:26:28.280
  • YOU HAVE TO FIGHT THROUGH ANY OF THAT TO FEEL LIKE,
  • 00:26:29.000 --> 00:26:30.270
  • YOU KNOW WHAT, THIS ISN'T IT FOR ME.
  • 00:26:30.290 --> 00:26:32.130
  • - YES. IT DID.
  • 00:26:32.150 --> 00:26:34.030
  • THOSE WORDS DO STICK WITH ME, AND PEOPLE DON'T
  • 00:26:34.050 --> 00:26:35.250
  • NECESSARILY REALIZE A LOT OF TIMES THE WEIGHT OF
  • 00:26:35.270 --> 00:26:38.130
  • WORDS, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN.
  • 00:26:38.150 --> 00:26:39.260
  • A LOT OF PEOPLE JUST SAY WHATEVER THEY FEEL, AND
  • 00:26:39.280 --> 00:26:41.130
  • THEY THINK THEY CAN COME BACK AND APOLOGIZE AND IT
  • 00:26:41.150 --> 00:26:43.200
  • BE OKAY, BUT A LOT OF TIMES WORDS CAN BURN YOU
  • 00:26:43.220 --> 00:26:47.110
  • DOWN EMOTIONALLY TO NOTHING AND YOU HAVE TO
  • 00:26:47.130 --> 00:26:50.260
  • REBUILD. YOU HAVE TO REBUILD THAT. A LOT OF
  • 00:26:50.280 --> 00:26:53.130
  • TIMES THE APOLOGY DOESN'T HELP YOU REBUILD IT.
  • 00:26:53.150 --> 00:26:56.070
  • YOU HAVE TO-- SO THOSE WORDS DID THAT TO ME, AND
  • 00:26:56.090 --> 00:26:58.210
  • I FEEL LIKE I GOT TO A POINT WHERE I WAS LIKE,
  • 00:26:58.230 --> 00:27:02.050
  • I'VE GOT TO GO TO COUNSELING, I'VE GOT TO
  • 00:27:02.070 --> 00:27:04.150
  • GET THIS TOGETHER BECAUSE I CANNOT GET UP ON THE
  • 00:27:04.170 --> 00:27:06.160
  • STAGE ANYMORE. AND THIS IS YEARS LATER.
  • 00:27:06.180 --> 00:27:09.000
  • I CAN'T GET UP ON THE STAGE ANYMORE AND
  • 00:27:09.020 --> 00:27:10.190
  • SING THESE SONGS FROM A PLACE OF EMPTINESS OR
  • 00:27:10.210 --> 00:27:13.280
  • FROM A PLACE OF WONDERING IF I'M GOOD ENOUGH
  • 00:27:14.000 --> 00:27:16.210
  • OR VALUABLE ENOUGH.
  • 00:27:16.230 --> 00:27:17.290
  • AND I DO BELIEVE THAT THAT CAME, THE BELIEF
  • 00:27:18.010 --> 00:27:20.220
  • THAT I WASN'T GOOD ENOUGH STARTED WITH THOSE WORDS,
  • 00:27:20.240 --> 00:27:23.140
  • AND IT LASTED YEARS AND YEARS.
  • 00:27:23.160 --> 00:27:25.030
  • THAT WAS ALMOST 20 YEARS AGO THAT THAT WAS SAID
  • 00:27:25.050 --> 00:27:29.050
  • TO ME AND IT LASTED THAT LONG.
  • 00:27:29.070 --> 00:27:30.260
  • - BUT ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT THE LORD SENT INTO
  • 00:27:30.280 --> 00:27:34.030
  • YOUR LIFE TO HELP REBUILD YOU AND REPOSITION YOU
  • 00:27:34.050 --> 00:27:37.130
  • AND LOVE YOU BACK TO LIFE WAS OUR BROTHER,
  • 00:27:37.150 --> 00:27:40.190
  • KIRK FRANKLIN. TALK TO US ABOUT KIRK FRANKLIN.
  • 00:27:40.210 --> 00:27:44.070
  • - WELL, RIGHT AFTER I FINISHED THAT CHAPTER,
  • 00:27:44.090 --> 00:27:47.140
  • KIRK ACTUALLY CALLED ME.
  • 00:27:47.160 --> 00:27:49.120
  • YOU KNOW, YOU GET CALLS FROM PEOPLE.
  • 00:27:49.140 --> 00:27:51.090
  • THEY STARTED COMING TO OUR CHURCH.
  • 00:27:51.110 --> 00:27:52.180
  • WHEN YOU GET CALLS FROM PEOPLE LIKE THAT WHO SAY
  • 00:27:52.200 --> 00:27:54.180
  • THEY WANT TO WORK WITH YOU, YOU'RE LIKE I'LL
  • 00:27:54.200 --> 00:27:56.150
  • NEVER TALK TO YOU AGAIN AFTER THIS.
  • 00:27:56.170 --> 00:27:58.050
  • HE WAS LIKE YOU READY TO COME WITH ME?
  • 00:27:58.070 --> 00:27:59.170
  • I WAS LIKE YEAH, YEAH.
  • 00:27:59.190 --> 00:28:00.280
  • BUT HE HELD UP HIS END OF THAT PHONE CALL.
  • 00:28:01.000 --> 00:28:04.050
  • I GOT OFF OF THAT BUS AND WALKED ONTO HIS, AND THAT
  • 00:28:04.070 --> 00:28:06.170
  • WAS RIGHT WHEN HE WAS RELEASING THE REBIRTH
  • 00:28:06.190 --> 00:28:08.280
  • RECORD. YA'LL REMEMBER THAT RECORD? HOSANNA,
  • 00:28:09.000 --> 00:28:10.180
  • BRIGHTER DAY AND ALL THESE AMAZING SONGS.
  • 00:28:10.200 --> 00:28:13.210
  • SO BEING ABLE TO TOUR THE WORLD WITH HIM AT 22
  • 00:28:13.230 --> 00:28:17.220
  • YEARS OLD, HE TAUGHT ME ABOUT THE 23 HOURS OF A
  • 00:28:17.240 --> 00:28:20.200
  • DAY THAT WE SPEND OFF OF A STAGE.
  • 00:28:20.220 --> 00:28:23.020
  • THAT'S WHAT WAS IMPORTANT TO HIM. AND I
  • 00:28:23.040 --> 00:28:25.080
  • WATCHED HIM PURSUE FAITH IN GOD OFF OF A STAGE.
  • 00:28:25.100 --> 00:28:28.180
  • - INTEGRITY.
  • 00:28:28.200 --> 00:28:30.020
  • - YES. HE WAS ALL ABOUT GROWTH, AND TO BE ABLE TO WATCH
  • 00:28:30.040 --> 00:28:33.060
  • THAT AND TO BE DOING IT AT THIS SCALE.
  • 00:28:33.080 --> 00:28:35.130
  • A 22 YEAR OLD GOING ON A WORLD TOUR FOR A YEAR AND
  • 00:28:35.150 --> 00:28:39.070
  • A HALF WITH HIM, AND YOLANDA ADAMS WAS THERE,
  • 00:28:39.090 --> 00:28:42.000
  • DONNIE MCCLURKIN WAS THERE.
  • 00:28:42.020 --> 00:28:43.140
  • AND YOLANDA IN THE MIDDLE OF THE TOUR WAS LIKE COME
  • 00:28:43.160 --> 00:28:45.020
  • SING WITH ME TOO, SO I WAS ON STAGE MOST OF THE
  • 00:28:45.040 --> 00:28:47.050
  • NIGHT SINGING FOR THESE GOSPEL GREATS.
  • 00:28:47.070 --> 00:28:50.120
  • AND THEY WERE INVESTING IN MY LIFE, SO GOD WAS
  • 00:28:50.140 --> 00:28:52.090
  • GIVING BACK TO ME WHAT WAS REALLY TAKEN AWAY IN
  • 00:28:52.110 --> 00:28:55.250
  • THAT MOMENT. I DON'T WANT TO SOUND LIKE VICTIMISH
  • 00:28:55.270 --> 00:28:58.240
  • AND ALL THAT STUFF, BUT--
  • 00:28:58.260 --> 00:29:00.150
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:29:00.170 --> 00:29:05.100
  • SO YEAH, KIRK WAS AN AMAZING BLESSING THAT
  • 00:29:05.120 --> 00:29:08.150
  • I MENTIONED THAT I GOT TO A POINT THOUGH,
  • 00:29:08.170 --> 00:29:10.280
  • HAVING YEARS OF WE'RE IN-- EVERYWHERE!
  • 00:29:11.000 --> 00:29:14.170
  • ANYWHERE YOU COULD THINK OF.
  • 00:29:14.190 --> 00:29:15.230
  • - ROYAL ALBERT HALL YOU TALK ABOUT IN LONDON
  • 00:29:15.250 --> 00:29:17.020
  • WHERE YOU SANG THERE.
  • 00:29:17.040 --> 00:29:18.120
  • - I MEAN THE FIRST EVENT WITH HIM WAS IN LONDON
  • 00:29:18.140 --> 00:29:20.180
  • AND KIRK-- I COME FROM THIS WORLD OF EVERYTHING
  • 00:29:20.200 --> 00:29:22.120
  • IS PLANNED, AND YOU SING THIS NOTE HERE.
  • 00:29:22.140 --> 00:29:25.000
  • AND KIRK IS JUST ALL OVER THE PLACE, AND HANDING ME
  • 00:29:25.020 --> 00:29:27.050
  • THE MICROPHONE IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS EVENT, I
  • 00:29:27.070 --> 00:29:29.210
  • REMEMBER HE HANDED ME THE MICROPHONE AND I WAS LIKE.
  • 00:29:29.230 --> 00:29:32.140
  • - YA'LL KNOW HOW KIRK DOES WHEN HE JUST HANDS A
  • 00:29:32.160 --> 00:29:34.010
  • SINGER A MICROPHONE AND GOES GO AT IT.
  • 00:29:34.030 --> 00:29:36.030
  • - AND I DIDN'T COME FROM THAT.
  • 00:29:36.050 --> 00:29:37.220
  • I WAS LIKE WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU? YOU SICK?
  • 00:29:37.240 --> 00:29:39.000
  • YOU GOOD? WHY YOU HANDING ME THE MIKE?
  • 00:29:39.020 --> 00:29:40.220
  • SO THOSE ARE SOME GREAT MEMORIES.
  • 00:29:40.240 --> 00:29:44.150
  • HE TAUGHT ME ABOUT SINGING FROM MY SOUL, NOT
  • 00:29:44.170 --> 00:29:46.170
  • JUST BEING A TECHNICIAN BUT SINGING FROM
  • 00:29:46.190 --> 00:29:48.140
  • MY SOUL AND MY HEART.
  • 00:29:48.160 --> 00:29:50.260
  • BUT OVER TIME, I STARTED TO TAKE THAT FOR GRANTED.
  • 00:29:50.280 --> 00:29:55.020
  • THE BLESSING THAT HE GAVE ME, I STARTED TO
  • 00:29:55.040 --> 00:29:57.270
  • TAKE THAT FOR GRANTED.
  • 00:29:57.290 --> 00:29:59.010
  • - WAS IT LIKE ENTITLEMENT THAT YOU FELT
  • 00:29:59.030 --> 00:30:00.290
  • LIKE AFTER A WHILE YOU FELT LIKE, YOU KNOW WHAT,
  • 00:30:01.010 --> 00:30:03.240
  • HE TRUSTS ME WITH THIS MICROPHONE, HE TRUSTS ME
  • 00:30:03.260 --> 00:30:05.030
  • WITH THIS STAGE.
  • 00:30:05.050 --> 00:30:06.120
  • - YEAH, I THINK THE SAME THING I DID WITH KIRK
  • 00:30:06.140 --> 00:30:07.290
  • WHAT I DO WITH GOD SOMETIMES, AND WHEN THE
  • 00:30:08.010 --> 00:30:09.260
  • BLESSINGS KEEP COMING, YOU CAN GET COMFORTABLE,
  • 00:30:09.280 --> 00:30:12.220
  • AND THEN YOU START TO SHIFT TOWARD NOT BEING
  • 00:30:12.240 --> 00:30:15.170
  • RESPONSIBLE WITH THE BLESSING.
  • 00:30:15.190 --> 00:30:17.060
  • - YEP.
  • 00:30:17.080 --> 00:30:18.190
  • - SO THERE WAS A MOMENT WHERE I WAS NOT
  • 00:30:18.210 --> 00:30:20.190
  • RESPONSIBLE WITH THE BLESSING AND THE
  • 00:30:20.210 --> 00:30:22.080
  • OPPORTUNITY THAT I HAD, AND YEAH.
  • 00:30:22.100 --> 00:30:24.150
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:30:24.170 --> 00:30:26.180
  • - DON'T SPOIL IT.
  • 00:30:26.200 --> 00:30:28.080
  • - I'M NOT GONNA SPOIL THE BOOK BUT.
  • 00:30:28.100 --> 00:30:29.180
  • - WHAT THAT ENTITLEMENT, HOW THAT TRANSLATED IN
  • 00:30:29.200 --> 00:30:31.280
  • YOUR RELATIONSHIP WITH KIRK BUT KIRK SPOKE WORDS
  • 00:30:32.000 --> 00:30:34.080
  • OF WISDOM, TRUTH IN LOVE OVER YOUR LIFE.
  • 00:30:34.100 --> 00:30:37.130
  • AND KIRK IS LITERALLY LIKE THE FIFTH CHILD IN
  • 00:30:37.150 --> 00:30:41.090
  • OUR FAMILY, SO WE WERE FACE TIMING WITH HIM ON
  • 00:30:41.110 --> 00:30:43.130
  • THE WAY HERE ACTUALLY BECAUSE HE'S VERY MUCH
  • 00:30:43.150 --> 00:30:45.090
  • STILL YOUR BROTHER.
  • 00:30:45.110 --> 00:30:46.170
  • SO EVEN THOUGH HE HAD TO SPEAK THE TRUTH TO YOU,
  • 00:30:46.190 --> 00:30:48.080
  • HIS LITTLE BROTHER, THERE'S STILL A GREAT
  • 00:30:48.100 --> 00:30:50.100
  • FRIENDSHIP THAT HAS CONTINUED FROM THERE.
  • 00:30:50.120 --> 00:30:52.050
  • - RIGHT.
  • 00:30:52.070 --> 00:30:53.160
  • - SO TELL US NOW KIND OF WHAT THINGS LOOK LIKE NOW.
  • 00:30:53.180 --> 00:30:55.270
  • YOU'VE BEEN SINGING.
  • 00:30:55.290 --> 00:30:57.020
  • ONCE YOU LEFT KIRK'S GROUP, YOU'VE BEEN
  • 00:30:57.040 --> 00:30:58.120
  • SINGING ON YOUR OWN.
  • 00:30:58.140 --> 00:30:59.290
  • YOU'VE RECORDED SIX ALBUMS NOW?
  • 00:31:00.030 --> 00:31:02.050
  • - MY OWN SISTER DOESN'T KNOW THAT I
  • 00:31:02.070 --> 00:31:03.140
  • RECORDED EIGHT ALBUMS.
  • 00:31:03.160 --> 00:31:05.030
  • - EIGHT! THAT'S WHAT I MEANT.
  • 00:31:05.050 --> 00:31:06.080
  • I MEANT EIGHT!
  • 00:31:06.100 --> 00:31:07.140
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:31:07.160 --> 00:31:08.260
  • - IT'S OKAY.
  • 00:31:08.280 --> 00:31:10.050
  • - I CAN'T KEEP UP!
  • 00:31:10.070 --> 00:31:11.080
  • - ONLY SIX MATTERED REALLY.
  • 00:31:11.100 --> 00:31:13.020
  • I RECORDED THOSE ALBUMS.
  • 00:31:13.040 --> 00:31:15.130
  • I HAD TO CHOOSE-- AT ONE POINT I HAD TO CHOOSE
  • 00:31:15.150 --> 00:31:17.060
  • BETWEEN KIRK AND MY OWN CAREER BECAUSE IT'S HARD
  • 00:31:17.080 --> 00:31:19.120
  • TO BE IN AND OUT OF SOMEBODY WHEN THEY'RE
  • 00:31:19.140 --> 00:31:21.010
  • DOING THAT MUCH AND MOVING THAT FAST.
  • 00:31:21.030 --> 00:31:22.190
  • SO I GOT OFFERED A DEAL TO DO MY OWN MUSIC.
  • 00:31:22.210 --> 00:31:26.060
  • AND IT WAS VERY INTERESTING GOING FROM
  • 00:31:26.080 --> 00:31:27.280
  • THE SCENARIO YOU EXPLAINED EARLIER, TO
  • 00:31:28.000 --> 00:31:29.290
  • KIRK FRANKLIN, TO MY OWN CAREER IN CHRISTIAN MUSIC
  • 00:31:30.010 --> 00:31:33.020
  • BECAUSE CHRISTIAN MUSIC-- AND THIS IS VERY
  • 00:31:33.040 --> 00:31:35.220
  • DISHEARTENING TO ME EVEN STILL, SOMETIMES
  • 00:31:35.240 --> 00:31:37.050
  • IT CAN BE VERY DIVIDED.
  • 00:31:37.070 --> 00:31:39.030
  • IT CAN BE VERY CONTEMPORARY CHRISTIAN
  • 00:31:39.050 --> 00:31:41.010
  • MUSIC AND GOSPEL MUSIC, AND THERE'S THIS LINE
  • 00:31:41.030 --> 00:31:43.040
  • DOWN THE MIDDLE, AND THE MAJOR DIFFERENCE
  • 00:31:43.060 --> 00:31:45.000
  • BETWEEN TWO IS RACE.
  • 00:31:45.020 --> 00:31:46.260
  • LIKE THAT WHICH IS SO SAD TO ME, BUT THAT'S HOW--
  • 00:31:46.280 --> 00:31:50.150
  • IT'S GOTTEN BETTER NOW, BUT WHEN I STARTED MY
  • 00:31:50.170 --> 00:31:52.060
  • CAREER IN '04, THERE WERE MOMENTS WHERE IT WAS LIKE
  • 00:31:52.080 --> 00:31:55.260
  • WE NEED YOU TO HOLD A GUITAR. THAT WAS BEFORE
  • 00:31:55.280 --> 00:31:57.230
  • THE TRAVIS GREENE DAYS AND THAT WAS--
  • 00:31:57.250 --> 00:32:00.110
  • - THERE WERE BLACK PEOPLE ACTUALLY HOLDING GUITARS.
  • 00:32:00.130 --> 00:32:02.240
  • - YEAH, AND THIS IS NO DISRESPECT TO
  • 00:32:02.260 --> 00:32:05.130
  • THE PEOPLE IN MY LIFE.
  • 00:32:05.150 --> 00:32:06.220
  • THEY JUST WERE LIKE IN ORDER TO BE ACCEPTED BY--
  • 00:32:06.240 --> 00:32:09.150
  • BECAUSE I AM-- I DON'T CONSIDER MYSELF A GOSPEL
  • 00:32:09.170 --> 00:32:12.220
  • SINGER LIKE THAT.
  • 00:32:12.240 --> 00:32:14.150
  • LIKE TAMELA MANN IS A GOSPEL SINGER,
  • 00:32:14.170 --> 00:32:16.230
  • YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?
  • 00:32:16.250 --> 00:32:18.090
  • I HAVE MORE OF A POP SOUND WITH SOUL.
  • 00:32:18.110 --> 00:32:20.220
  • BUT IN ORDER TO BE ACCEPTED ON THAT SIDE,
  • 00:32:20.240 --> 00:32:22.040
  • I STARTED TO HAVE TO-- I GOT INTO THIS WORLD OF
  • 00:32:22.060 --> 00:32:24.000
  • THE INDUSTRY OF MINISTRY WHICH IS A CONTRADICTION
  • 00:32:24.020 --> 00:32:28.120
  • IN AND OF ITSELF.
  • 00:32:28.140 --> 00:32:30.250
  • BUT THAT WAS ANOTHER HARD LESSON I HAD TO LEARN
  • 00:32:30.270 --> 00:32:32.210
  • WHERE I ALMOST HAD TO-- I'M TRYING TO SAY THIS IN
  • 00:32:32.230 --> 00:32:36.010
  • THE BEST WAY WITHOUT COMING OFF CRAZY.
  • 00:32:36.030 --> 00:32:37.270
  • - DID YOU HAVE TO CHOOSE BETWEEN BEING YOURSELF
  • 00:32:37.290 --> 00:32:41.160
  • AND SELLING ALBUMS?
  • 00:32:41.180 --> 00:32:43.110
  • - THERE YOU GO.
  • 00:32:43.130 --> 00:32:44.160
  • THANK YOU PRISCILLA SHIRER.
  • 00:32:44.180 --> 00:32:45.270
  • NICE WAY TO ASK.
  • 00:32:45.290 --> 00:32:47.170
  • I HAD TO-- I WAS AT A PLACE IN MY LIFE AND CAREER,
  • 00:32:47.190 --> 00:32:51.190
  • ONE WHERE I WAS MISERABLE BECAUSE I WAS DEFINING
  • 00:32:51.210 --> 00:32:54.020
  • SUCCESS THE WRONG WAY, AND I WAS HAVING TO
  • 00:32:54.040 --> 00:32:56.020
  • MANIPULATE WHO I WAS, AND I WASN'T HAVING TO BUT
  • 00:32:56.040 --> 00:32:59.090
  • I'M A KID AND WELL 24 AT THAT POINT IN THE
  • 00:32:59.110 --> 00:33:01.290
  • INDUSTRY, AND WHAT DO I NEED TO DO?
  • 00:33:02.010 --> 00:33:04.050
  • SO I AM MANIPULATING WHO I AM, PUTTING ON
  • 00:33:04.070 --> 00:33:07.210
  • DIFFERENT SOUNDS, CHANGING MY VOICE, NOT
  • 00:33:07.230 --> 00:33:09.140
  • SINGING HIGH, NOT DOING RUNS, DOING ALL THIS
  • 00:33:09.160 --> 00:33:11.150
  • STUFF TO BE ACCEPTED.
  • 00:33:11.170 --> 00:33:12.280
  • AND I THOUGHT WHAT HAPPENS IF ONE OF THESE
  • 00:33:13.000 --> 00:33:14.170
  • SONGS WHERE I HAVE MANIPULATED MY WHOLE SELF
  • 00:33:14.190 --> 00:33:16.130
  • BECOMES A HIT AND I HAVE SUCCESS?
  • 00:33:16.150 --> 00:33:19.260
  • THAT MEANS I HAVE TO SING THIS SONG I DO NOT LIKE
  • 00:33:19.280 --> 00:33:21.260
  • FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE, AND THEN AFTER I SING
  • 00:33:21.280 --> 00:33:26.010
  • THAT SONG AND HAVE A HIT ON THE RADIO, I STILL
  • 00:33:26.030 --> 00:33:28.280
  • THEN CANNOT GO WRITE A CHECK FOR PEACE AFTER
  • 00:33:29.000 --> 00:33:31.050
  • HAVING THIS HIT SONG.
  • 00:33:31.070 --> 00:33:32.290
  • SO SUCCESS CANNOT BE DEFINED BY NUMBER ONE ON
  • 00:33:33.010 --> 00:33:37.020
  • A RADIO STATION OR EVERYBODY WANTING YOU TO
  • 00:33:37.040 --> 00:33:38.220
  • COME HEADLINE A FESTIVAL.
  • 00:33:38.240 --> 00:33:40.110
  • THAT CANNOT BE SUCCESS.
  • 00:33:40.130 --> 00:33:41.260
  • AND WHEN I DECIDED TO REDEFINE WHAT SUCCESS IS
  • 00:33:41.280 --> 00:33:43.270
  • TO ME AND START CHASING THE PEACE AND GOING-- IT
  • 00:33:43.290 --> 00:33:47.250
  • DOESN'T MATTER IF THERE ARE TEN PEOPLE OR 100.000
  • 00:33:47.270 --> 00:33:50.080
  • PEOPLE, IF I HAVE CHASED PEACE AND DEFINED PEACE
  • 00:33:50.100 --> 00:33:53.170
  • AS A CONDUIT BY WHICH I'M GONNA ACHIEVE SUCCESS,
  • 00:33:53.190 --> 00:33:58.060
  • THAT IS WHEN I ACTUALLY FOUND MY CALLING.
  • 00:33:58.080 --> 00:34:01.200
  • I CHASED OPPORTUNITIES THAT LINED UP WITH PEACE
  • 00:34:01.220 --> 00:34:04.270
  • AND THAT IS HOW MY CAREER CONTINUED TO MOVE.
  • 00:34:04.290 --> 00:34:08.070
  • - THAT'S SO GREAT.
  • 00:34:08.090 --> 00:34:09.240
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:34:09.260 --> 00:34:12.030
  • BECAUSE THE REALITY IS YOU HAVE BEEN AT
  • 00:34:12.050 --> 00:34:17.150
  • THE BIG FESTIVAL BEFORE.
  • 00:34:17.170 --> 00:34:19.040
  • YOU'VE BEEN ON THE PLATFORM WHERE 20- OR
  • 00:34:19.060 --> 00:34:21.190
  • 30.000 PEOPLE WERE IN THE AUDIENCE FOR SOMETHING
  • 00:34:21.210 --> 00:34:23.140
  • YOU WERE INVITED TO DO.
  • 00:34:23.160 --> 00:34:24.270
  • YOU'VE BEEN ON THE TELEVISION STATION
  • 00:34:24.290 --> 00:34:26.060
  • BEFORE, AND YOU'VE BEEN THERE AND HAVE WANTED TO
  • 00:34:26.080 --> 00:34:28.230
  • JUST CRY A RIVER OF TEARS BECAUSE YOU'RE STANDING
  • 00:34:28.250 --> 00:34:32.080
  • THERE IN THE POSITION OF SUCCESS, AND YOU JUST
  • 00:34:32.100 --> 00:34:35.020
  • FELT COMPLETE TURMOIL ON THE INSIDE.
  • 00:34:35.040 --> 00:34:37.140
  • - RIGHT. WE AS A CULTURE, ESPECIALLY IN OUR
  • 00:34:37.160 --> 00:34:40.190
  • COUNTRY, OUR CULTURE DEFINES SUCCESS BY WHAT
  • 00:34:40.210 --> 00:34:43.080
  • DO YOU HAVE TANGIBLY WHAT DO I HAVE?
  • 00:34:43.100 --> 00:34:46.100
  • WHAT CAN I HOLD IN MY HANDS THAT I HAVE WORKED
  • 00:34:46.120 --> 00:34:47.260
  • HARD FOR AND I GOT?
  • 00:34:47.280 --> 00:34:49.210
  • THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH HAVING THINGS BUT IF
  • 00:34:49.230 --> 00:34:51.130
  • THAT IS THE END ALL, THEN THERE'S A PROBLEM BECAUSE
  • 00:34:51.150 --> 00:34:53.290
  • THERE'S GOING TO BE A MAJOR PROBLEM.
  • 00:34:54.010 --> 00:34:56.230
  • I BELIEVE IN WORKING HARD, BUT I BELIEVE IN
  • 00:34:56.250 --> 00:34:59.290
  • WORKING HARD TO ATTAIN PEACE FIRST.
  • 00:35:00.030 --> 00:35:03.210
  • AM I DOING WHAT I'M CALLED TO DO AND AM I AT PEACE?
  • 00:35:03.230 --> 00:35:06.160
  • AND THAT IS, THAT'S HOW I'VE HAD TO DEFINE IT.
  • 00:35:06.180 --> 00:35:10.050
  • - THAT'S GREAT.
  • 00:35:10.070 --> 00:35:11.220
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:35:11.240 --> 00:35:15.190
  • - SO I DON'T WANT TO JUMP AHEAD OF YOU.
  • 00:35:15.210 --> 00:35:17.200
  • - YOU'RE ABOUT TO JUMP AHEAD OF ME.
  • 00:35:17.220 --> 00:35:19.020
  • BUT BEFORE YOU JUMP AHEAD, I WANT TO ASK YOU
  • 00:35:19.040 --> 00:35:21.000
  • A QUESTION ABOUT SOMETHING YOU SAID
  • 00:35:21.020 --> 00:35:22.170
  • BECAUSE I THINK IT'S VERY INTERESTING THAT WE
  • 00:35:22.190 --> 00:35:24.020
  • KIND OF SIT HERE FOR JUST A SECOND.
  • 00:35:24.040 --> 00:35:26.030
  • THAT THERE'S ONE OF YOUR ALBUMS, IT MIGHT BE TWO
  • 00:35:26.050 --> 00:35:28.040
  • OR THREE ALBUMS IN-- IT MIGHT BE THE SECOND ONE
  • 00:35:28.060 --> 00:35:30.130
  • I THINK. IT'S THE ONLY ONE I THINK WHERE YOU ARE
  • 00:35:30.150 --> 00:35:33.080
  • NOT ON THE COVER.
  • 00:35:33.100 --> 00:35:34.230
  • YOU ARE ON THE COVER, BUT YOUR FACE IS NOT THERE
  • 00:35:34.250 --> 00:35:37.030
  • BECAUSE THE RECORD EXECUTIVES WANTED YOU TO
  • 00:35:37.050 --> 00:35:39.180
  • ACTUALLY HAVE A PICTURE OF YOURSELF BUT EXCLUDING
  • 00:35:39.200 --> 00:35:42.140
  • YOUR FACE SO THAT PEOPLE WOULD NOT KNOW
  • 00:35:42.160 --> 00:35:44.070
  • YOU WERE A BLACK MAN.
  • 00:35:44.090 --> 00:35:45.270
  • - RIGHT.
  • 00:35:45.290 --> 00:35:47.060
  • - NOT BECAUSE THEY'RE RACIST BUT BECAUSE THEY
  • 00:35:47.080 --> 00:35:48.190
  • THOUGHT IF THEY CANNOT CLASSIFY YOU, THE BUYER,
  • 00:35:48.210 --> 00:35:52.100
  • THE POTENTIAL BUYER CAN'T SAY THAT'S A
  • 00:35:52.120 --> 00:35:54.040
  • WHITE GUY OR A BLACK GUY,
  • 00:35:54.060 --> 00:35:55.210
  • IF THEY JUST ARE GONNA ZERO IN ON THE MUSIC,
  • 00:35:55.230 --> 00:35:57.080
  • THEN MAYBE THERE'S A POSSIBILITY HERE WE CAN
  • 00:35:57.100 --> 00:35:59.200
  • SELL SOME RECORDS IF WE JUST EXCLUDE WHAT YOU
  • 00:35:59.220 --> 00:36:02.220
  • ACTUALLY LOOK LIKE.
  • 00:36:02.240 --> 00:36:04.160
  • AND I THINK IN THAT-- AND THAT WAS THE RECORD THAT
  • 00:36:04.180 --> 00:36:06.240
  • HAS SOLD THE ABSOLUTE LEAST OF ALL OF
  • 00:36:06.260 --> 00:36:08.150
  • THE ONES THAT YOU HAD.
  • 00:36:08.170 --> 00:36:09.210
  • - YEAH.
  • 00:36:09.230 --> 00:36:11.010
  • - THE ONE WHERE YOU BASICALLY WERE INSTRUCTED
  • 00:36:11.030 --> 00:36:12.060
  • TO HIDE YOURSELF.
  • 00:36:12.080 --> 00:36:14.020
  • - YEAH. YEAH. I MEAN THAT'S WHAT IT WAS.
  • 00:36:14.040 --> 00:36:17.190
  • AND ALL THOSE PEOPLE ARE STILL--
  • 00:36:17.210 --> 00:36:19.230
  • AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO PROTECT THEM.
  • 00:36:19.250 --> 00:36:21.090
  • - THEY MEAN WELL.
  • 00:36:21.110 --> 00:36:22.280
  • - THEY ARE THE REASON WHY I HAVE A CAREER, BUT
  • 00:36:23.000 --> 00:36:25.010
  • IN THOSE MOVES, THOSE MOVES-- THEY CALLED ME,
  • 00:36:25.030 --> 00:36:27.150
  • BEFORE A BOOK CAME OUT THEY CALLED ME AND
  • 00:36:27.170 --> 00:36:29.010
  • APOLOGIZED BEFORE FOR THAT WHOLE MOMENT.
  • 00:36:29.030 --> 00:36:30.160
  • THEY WERE LIKE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE WERE
  • 00:36:30.180 --> 00:36:31.210
  • THINKING, WE ARE SO SORRY.
  • 00:36:31.230 --> 00:36:32.290
  • THERE WILL NEVER BE ANOTHER MOMENT WHERE WE
  • 00:36:33.010 --> 00:36:34.180
  • ASK YOU TO DO ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
  • 00:36:34.200 --> 00:36:36.130
  • BUT IT'S JUST SAD TO ME THAT IN-- EVERYBODY'S NOT
  • 00:36:36.150 --> 00:36:39.240
  • GONNA LIKE EVERY KIND OF MUSIC, BUT TO GO THROUGH
  • 00:36:39.260 --> 00:36:41.290
  • THOSE TACTICS TO-- WITH CHRISTIANS YOU SHOULDN'T
  • 00:36:42.010 --> 00:36:46.140
  • HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT.
  • 00:36:46.160 --> 00:36:47.260
  • AS WE WATCH POP CULTURE ACCEPT EVERYBODY AND ONE
  • 00:36:47.280 --> 00:36:50.090
  • STATION WILL PLAY EVERYBODY'S KIND OF
  • 00:36:50.110 --> 00:36:52.060
  • MUSIC, BUT THEN ON OUR SIDE IT'S VERY LIKE.
  • 00:36:52.080 --> 00:36:55.060
  • - IT IS DIVIDED.
  • 00:36:55.080 --> 00:36:56.160
  • AND YOU KNOW WHAT, IT'S SO HARD BECAUSE WE WERE
  • 00:36:56.180 --> 00:36:58.060
  • ACTUALLY AT THE STELLAR AWARDS.
  • 00:36:58.080 --> 00:36:59.290
  • WE WERE INVITED TO GO THERE.
  • 00:37:00.030 --> 00:37:01.190
  • OUR FAMILY WENT TOGETHER JUST FOR FUN.
  • 00:37:01.210 --> 00:37:03.180
  • AND I REMEMBER YOU JUST WHISPERING TO ME THAT IT
  • 00:37:03.200 --> 00:37:05.210
  • WAS KIND OF HARD FOR YOU TO BE AT THE STELLAR
  • 00:37:05.230 --> 00:37:07.260
  • AWARDS, AND THE REASON WHY WAS BECAUSE THERE WAS
  • 00:37:07.280 --> 00:37:10.100
  • A WHOLE SEASON OF YOUR LIFE WHEN YOU WERE
  • 00:37:10.120 --> 00:37:12.170
  • YOUNGER AND WORKING IN MUSIC IN THE INDUSTRY AND
  • 00:37:12.190 --> 00:37:14.250
  • KIND OF BUILDING WHAT IT IS THAT YOU FELT LIKE THE
  • 00:37:14.270 --> 00:37:16.190
  • LORD HAD ENTRUSTED YOU TO DO, AND YOU WEREN'T
  • 00:37:16.210 --> 00:37:19.040
  • ACCEPTED NECESSARILY IN THE GOSPEL MUSIC INDUSTRY.
  • 00:37:19.060 --> 00:37:21.270
  • THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH YOU BECAUSE YOUR
  • 00:37:21.290 --> 00:37:23.070
  • SOUND WASN'T THAT.
  • 00:37:23.090 --> 00:37:24.280
  • BUT THEN IN THE CCM, THE CONTEMPORARY CHRISTIAN
  • 00:37:25.000 --> 00:37:27.100
  • DOVE AWARD SIDE, THEY DIDN'T ACCEPT YOU THERE
  • 00:37:27.120 --> 00:37:30.070
  • BECAUSE YOU WEREN'T QUITE, YOU DIDN'T
  • 00:37:30.090 --> 00:37:31.210
  • QUITE FIT IN.
  • 00:37:31.230 --> 00:37:33.000
  • SO YOU WERE JUST TRYING TO FIND YOUR WAY, AND ALL
  • 00:37:33.020 --> 00:37:35.070
  • THE WHILE DID YOU JUST FEEL COMPLETELY LOST.
  • 00:37:35.090 --> 00:37:37.280
  • - I FELT COMPLETELY LOST, AND I WAS STARTING
  • 00:37:38.000 --> 00:37:40.220
  • FROM A PLACE OF THOSE WORDS YOU HEARD EARLIER:
  • 00:37:40.240 --> 00:37:42.220
  • YOU'RE WORTHLESS AND NEVER GONNA BE DO
  • 00:37:42.240 --> 00:37:44.000
  • ANYTHING BETTER THAN THIS.
  • 00:37:44.020 --> 00:37:45.170
  • SO I WOULD THINK ABOUT THAT AS OPPOSED TO
  • 00:37:45.190 --> 00:37:47.200
  • THINKING ABOUT-- IT'S CRAZY, I LEARNED ONE OF
  • 00:37:47.220 --> 00:37:51.080
  • THE GREATEST LESSONS FROM SOMEBODY WHO IS
  • 00:37:51.100 --> 00:37:53.000
  • NOT NECESSARILY A CHURCH SINGER.
  • 00:37:53.020 --> 00:37:54.090
  • HER NAME IS CHRISTINA AGUILERA AND SHE WAS
  • 00:37:54.110 --> 00:37:55.220
  • MY COACH ON THE VOICE.
  • 00:37:55.240 --> 00:37:56.290
  • SHE SAID TO ME LOOK, WHEN I WAS THIS POP PRINCESS,
  • 00:37:57.010 --> 00:37:59.020
  • EVERYBODY WANTED ME TO DO ONE THING AND I STARTED
  • 00:37:59.040 --> 00:38:01.270
  • DOING ANOTHER, AND I WAS SCARED TO DEATH BECAUSE
  • 00:38:01.290 --> 00:38:03.220
  • I DIDN'T-- NOBODY WAS DOING THAT.
  • 00:38:03.240 --> 00:38:05.200
  • NOBODY WAS DOING THAT. EVERYBODY WAS CUTE AND
  • 00:38:05.220 --> 00:38:07.100
  • POP, AND I WAS DOING SOMETHING ELSE.
  • 00:38:07.120 --> 00:38:08.250
  • AND IN GOING MY OWN DIRECTION, EVEN THOUGH I
  • 00:38:08.270 --> 00:38:12.230
  • DIDN'T KNOW WHERE I WAS GOING, I HAD TO REALIZE I
  • 00:38:12.250 --> 00:38:14.100
  • WAS BLAZING A TRAIL FOR ME AND EVERYBODY BEHIND
  • 00:38:14.120 --> 00:38:16.090
  • ME BY BEING MYSELF.
  • 00:38:16.110 --> 00:38:18.190
  • AND SHE WAS JUST TALKING TO ME, AND I WAS LIKE I'M
  • 00:38:18.210 --> 00:38:21.230
  • GETTING THIS LIFE LESSON FROM CHRISTINA AGUILERA
  • 00:38:21.250 --> 00:38:24.270
  • WHO HAS NO IDEA RIGHT NOW THAT SHE'S SPEAKING INTO
  • 00:38:24.290 --> 00:38:26.240
  • MY MINISTRY BY SAYING THOSE WORDS TO ME.
  • 00:38:26.260 --> 00:38:29.140
  • - YEAH, BE YOURSELF.
  • 00:38:29.160 --> 00:38:31.070
  • - YES, BE YOURSELF AND YOU WILL NOT ONLY BE
  • 00:38:31.090 --> 00:38:33.100
  • BLAZING A TRAIL FOR YOU BUT EVERYBODY BEHIND YOU
  • 00:38:33.120 --> 00:38:35.100
  • WHO WANTS TO BE ABLE TO JUST USE THE VOICE
  • 00:38:35.120 --> 00:38:38.000
  • IN THE WAY THEY WANT TO USE THEIR VOICE.
  • 00:38:38.020 --> 00:38:40.120
  • AND I MENTIONED A LITTLE STORY HERE.
  • 00:38:40.140 --> 00:38:43.230
  • THIS BOOK IS A LOT ABOUT A COUPLE KEY THINGS.
  • 00:38:43.250 --> 00:38:46.010
  • JUST ABOUT OBEDIENCE IN CERTAIN AREAS WHERE I'VE
  • 00:38:46.030 --> 00:38:48.160
  • HAD TO, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE LITTLE STEPS OF
  • 00:38:48.180 --> 00:38:52.070
  • OBEDIENCE A LOT OF TIMES UNLOCK OUR FREEDOM, AND I
  • 00:38:52.090 --> 00:38:55.100
  • LEARNED THIS LESSON ON A PLANE.
  • 00:38:55.120 --> 00:38:57.140
  • I FLY A LOT, Y'ALL, AND I DON'T LIKE TO FLY.
  • 00:38:57.160 --> 00:39:01.040
  • I DON'T LIKE IT, AND I GOT TO THE POINT WHERE
  • 00:39:01.060 --> 00:39:04.110
  • THE ANNOUNCEMENT COMES ON, BUCKLE YOUR SEAT
  • 00:39:04.130 --> 00:39:06.040
  • BELT, PUT YOUR LAPTOP UP, AND I'VE STOPPED
  • 00:39:06.060 --> 00:39:07.240
  • LISTENING TO THAT ANNOUNCEMENT.
  • 00:39:07.260 --> 00:39:09.090
  • I KNOW I NEED TO LISTEN TO IT, BUT SOMETIMES, I'M
  • 00:39:09.110 --> 00:39:10.230
  • JUST DOING MY OWN THING - YOU REBELLIOUS MAN.
  • 00:39:10.250 --> 00:39:12.170
  • - I WAS A LITTLE BIT REBELLIOUS.
  • 00:39:12.190 --> 00:39:14.240
  • I WASN'T IN FULL WORSHIP LEADER MODE THAT DAY,
  • 00:39:14.260 --> 00:39:16.160
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:39:16.180 --> 00:39:19.010
  • THE FLIGHT ATTENDANT CAME FOR THE THIRD TIME, AND
  • 00:39:19.030 --> 00:39:21.020
  • WAS LIKE, YOU NEED TO BUCKLE YOUR SEAT BELT.
  • 00:39:21.040 --> 00:39:23.020
  • WE NEED TO GO.
  • 00:39:23.040 --> 00:39:24.250
  • AND THE FOURTH -- SHE DIDN'T SAY YO, IS THAT
  • 00:39:24.270 --> 00:39:26.200
  • WHAT YOU WERE ABOUT TO SAY?
  • 00:39:26.220 --> 00:39:28.060
  • - I WAS ABOUT TO SAY YOU'RE HOLDING UP THE
  • 00:39:28.080 --> 00:39:29.180
  • WHOLE FLIGHT BECAUSE YOU WON'T BE OBEDIENT.
  • 00:39:29.200 --> 00:39:31.030
  • - YES, I'M HOLDING UP THE WHOLE FLIGHT, AND BY
  • 00:39:31.050 --> 00:39:32.210
  • THE LAST TIME, SHE GOT DOWN IN MY FACE A LITTLE
  • 00:39:32.230 --> 00:39:33.290
  • BIT AND WAS LIKE.
  • 00:39:34.010 --> 00:39:35.090
  • - SIR...
  • 00:39:35.110 --> 00:39:36.240
  • - YES, YOU HAVE ASKED US TO TAKE --
  • 00:39:36.260 --> 00:39:37.270
  • THIS IS WHAT SHE SAID.
  • 00:39:37.290 --> 00:39:39.050
  • YOU HAVE ASKED US TO TAKE YOU TO A DESTINATION, BUT
  • 00:39:39.070 --> 00:39:41.030
  • YOU ARE REFUSING TO DO THIS SEEMINGLY
  • 00:39:41.050 --> 00:39:42.280
  • INSIGNIFICANT THING?
  • 00:39:43.000 --> 00:39:44.070
  • BUT WHEN YOU DO THAT, WE WON'T BE ABLE TO TAKE OFF
  • 00:39:44.090 --> 00:39:47.010
  • AND TAKE YOU WHERE YOU ASK US TO TAKE YOU
  • 00:39:47.030 --> 00:39:49.070
  • IN THE FIRST PLACE.
  • 00:39:49.090 --> 00:39:50.290
  • AND SHE SAID, NOT ONLY WILL WE TAKE OFF WITH
  • 00:39:51.010 --> 00:39:52.230
  • YOU, BUT EVERYBODY WHO'S WITH YOU WILL ALSO
  • 00:39:52.250 --> 00:39:54.130
  • GET TO GO TO THE DESTINATION, TOO.
  • 00:39:54.150 --> 00:39:56.030
  • - IF YOU'LL JUST DO THE LITTLE THING.
  • 00:39:56.050 --> 00:39:58.000
  • - IF YOU'LL JUST DO THIS INSIGNIFICANT THING.
  • 00:39:58.020 --> 00:39:59.210
  • SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT GOD -- ALL THE THINGS
  • 00:39:59.230 --> 00:40:02.040
  • THAT GOD HAS ASKED ME TO DO A LOT OF TIMES SEEM
  • 00:40:02.060 --> 00:40:03.250
  • VERY INSIGNIFICANT AS RELATED TO CAREER OR MY
  • 00:40:03.270 --> 00:40:05.150
  • LIFE, BUT WHAT I HAVE TO REALIZE IS THAT WHEN WE
  • 00:40:05.170 --> 00:40:07.180
  • DO THE LITTLE, SEEMINGLY INSIGNIFICANT THINGS THAT
  • 00:40:07.200 --> 00:40:10.280
  • GOD ASKS US TO DO, IT LOVE US TAKE OFF TO THE
  • 00:40:11.000 --> 00:40:13.080
  • DESTINATION WE'VE ASKED HIM TO TAKE US TO
  • 00:40:13.100 --> 00:40:15.170
  • IN THE FIRST PLACE.
  • 00:40:15.190 --> 00:40:17.070
  • AND IT WON'T JUST BE US GOING, IT WILL BE
  • 00:40:17.090 --> 00:40:18.240
  • EVERYBODY WHO'S WITH US.
  • 00:40:18.260 --> 00:40:20.170
  • - EVERYBODY ATTACHED TO US YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:40:20.190 --> 00:40:22.090
  • - SO THAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU PURSUE YOUR UNIQUE CALLING.
  • 00:40:22.110 --> 00:40:24.020
  • - THAT'S REALLY GREAT.
  • 00:40:24.040 --> 00:40:25.250
  • SO YOU KNOW, I WILL SAY THAT ONE OF THE MAIN
  • 00:40:25.270 --> 00:40:27.280
  • QUESTIONS -- AND BY THE WAY, LOOK AT THAT.
  • 00:40:28.000 --> 00:40:29.280
  • I'VE JUST FLIPPED RIGHT TO THAT PLACE OF YOU AND
  • 00:40:30.000 --> 00:40:31.160
  • CHRISTINA AGUILERA AGO RIGHT THERE BECAUSE YOU
  • 00:40:31.180 --> 00:40:33.080
  • TALK ABOUT HER IN THE BOOK, AND JUST ABOUT.
  • 00:40:33.100 --> 00:40:34.200
  • - SWEET LADY.
  • 00:40:34.220 --> 00:40:36.100
  • - YEAH, YOU SAID SHE'S A SWEET LADY, BUT THE FEW
  • 00:40:36.120 --> 00:40:38.000
  • THINGS IN Y'ALL'S CONVERSATIONS THAT YOU
  • 00:40:38.020 --> 00:40:40.040
  • HAD, HOW IT SORT OF CHANGED THE TRAJECTORY OF
  • 00:40:40.060 --> 00:40:42.160
  • SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU DID.
  • 00:40:42.180 --> 00:40:44.080
  • BUT ONE OF THE THINGS, AS WELL, THAT REALLY MARKED
  • 00:40:44.100 --> 00:40:46.100
  • YOU, I WOULD SAY, IN A WAY THAT WAS A LITTLE BIT SAD
  • 00:40:46.120 --> 00:40:49.060
  • AT THE TIME, BUT REALLY HAS SORT OF THE LORD,
  • 00:40:49.080 --> 00:40:50.270
  • AS HE DOES, HAS USED TO MOLD YOU INTO THE GUY YOU
  • 00:40:50.290 --> 00:40:53.020
  • ARE TODAY AND ALSO, BY THE WAY, ONE OF THE MAIN
  • 00:40:53.040 --> 00:40:56.280
  • QUESTIONS AS A FAMILY THAT WE GET ASKED IS
  • 00:40:57.000 --> 00:40:58.270
  • ABOUT YOU BEING MARRIED.
  • 00:40:58.290 --> 00:41:01.130
  • PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT --
  • 00:41:01.150 --> 00:41:05.070
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:41:05.090 --> 00:41:07.200
  • PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT ABOUT THIS
  • 00:41:07.220 --> 00:41:09.230
  • HANDSOME MAN AND WHY HE MIGHT NOT BE MARRIED.
  • 00:41:09.250 --> 00:41:15.290
  • AND SO I JUST THOUGHT I'D BRING THAT UP BECAUSE YOU
  • 00:41:16.010 --> 00:41:17.250
  • DO TALK ABOUT A LITTLE INCIDENT THAT HAPPENED IN
  • 00:41:17.270 --> 00:41:19.170
  • THAT AREA OF YOUR LIFE IN THE BOOK.
  • 00:41:19.190 --> 00:41:21.190
  • TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT BECAUSE THAT
  • 00:41:21.210 --> 00:41:23.050
  • WAS A BIG DEAL.
  • 00:41:23.070 --> 00:41:24.190
  • - YEAH, IT WAS A BIG DEAL.
  • 00:41:24.210 --> 00:41:26.020
  • I TALK ABOUT I WENT THROUGH A PERIOD IN MY
  • 00:41:26.040 --> 00:41:28.030
  • LIFE WHERE ONE OF THE HARDEST THINGS I'VE EVER
  • 00:41:28.050 --> 00:41:30.020
  • DONE IS GO THROUGH A BROKEN ENGAGEMENT AND
  • 00:41:30.040 --> 00:41:32.100
  • THEN HAVE TO GET UP ON STAGE AND SING ABOUT THE
  • 00:41:32.120 --> 00:41:34.100
  • FAITHFULNESS OF GOD ALL IN A 24 HOUR PERIOD.
  • 00:41:34.120 --> 00:41:37.020
  • FOR SOMEBODY LIKE ME, THAT'S THE PHONIEST
  • 00:41:37.040 --> 00:41:40.120
  • I'VE EVER FELT.
  • 00:41:40.140 --> 00:41:42.070
  • THAT'S THE MOST BROKEN I'VE EVER FELT.
  • 00:41:42.090 --> 00:41:44.030
  • AND I GOT UP ON STAGE AND REMEMBER SAYING INTO THE
  • 00:41:44.050 --> 00:41:45.290
  • MICROPHONE, "I DON'T FEEL LIKE DOING THIS." AND I
  • 00:41:46.010 --> 00:41:48.000
  • SAW MY ROAD MANAGER IN THE BACK GO, WELL?
  • 00:41:48.020 --> 00:41:49.180
  • THAT'S THE END OF THAT.
  • 00:41:49.200 --> 00:41:51.200
  • YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? IT'S OVER NOW.
  • 00:41:51.220 --> 00:41:53.140
  • BUT THAT CREATED A LOT OF ISSUES IN ME, AND SHE
  • 00:41:53.160 --> 00:41:58.170
  • DIDN'T CREATE ISSUES IN ME.
  • 00:41:58.190 --> 00:42:00.160
  • THAT WHOLE SCENARIO CREATED ISSUES IN ME, SO
  • 00:42:00.180 --> 00:42:02.220
  • I WANT TO PROTECT HER ALSO, BUT YEAH, EVER
  • 00:42:02.240 --> 00:42:04.260
  • SINCE THEN -- AND LISTEN, I AM A PROPONENT
  • 00:42:04.280 --> 00:42:08.010
  • OF COUNSELING.
  • 00:42:08.030 --> 00:42:09.260
  • I HAVE BEEN IN COUNSELING SINCE THEN.
  • 00:42:09.280 --> 00:42:11.170
  • I HAVE MAJOR COMMITMENT ISSUES, AND I AM MARRIED
  • 00:42:11.190 --> 00:42:13.250
  • TO MY CAREER, AND I WORK REALLY HARD, BUT I HAVE
  • 00:42:13.270 --> 00:42:15.230
  • MAJOR COMMITMENT ISSUES THAT I WORK THROUGH
  • 00:42:15.250 --> 00:42:18.230
  • ONCE A MONTH WITH THE COUNSELOR.
  • 00:42:18.250 --> 00:42:20.160
  • AND UNTIL I'M READY, I'M NOT DOING IT
  • 00:42:20.180 --> 00:42:22.200
  • FOR CHRISTIAN CULTURE.
  • 00:42:22.220 --> 00:42:24.160
  • I'M NOT TRYING TO MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY.
  • 00:42:24.180 --> 00:42:26.080
  • I'M NOT --
  • 00:42:26.100 --> 00:42:27.260
  • - THAT'S WAY TOO MUCH WORK.
  • 00:42:27.280 --> 00:42:29.140
  • - YEAH, IT'S TOO MUCH WORK TO TRY TO PAINT THE
  • 00:42:29.160 --> 00:42:31.010
  • PICTURE TO CHRISTENDOM OF WHAT THEY THINK I SHOULD BE.
  • 00:42:31.030 --> 00:42:33.010
  • I'M NOT DOING THAT, SO THAT'S WHERE I
  • 00:42:33.030 --> 00:42:35.090
  • AM RIGHT NOW, YEAH.
  • 00:42:35.110 --> 00:42:36.200
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:42:36.220 --> 00:42:39.090
  • - DO YOU THINK, AS DIFFICULT AS YOU SAID IT
  • 00:42:39.110 --> 00:42:41.130
  • WAS, AND YOU SAID YOU FELT PHONEY AND THAT SORT
  • 00:42:41.150 --> 00:42:43.160
  • OF STUFF, THE DAY THAT YOU, IN THAT 24 HOUR
  • 00:42:43.180 --> 00:42:46.110
  • PERIOD, BROKEN ENGAGEMENT, AND YOU WERE
  • 00:42:46.130 --> 00:42:48.070
  • STANDING ON STAGE, IS THERE SOMETHING REDEEMING
  • 00:42:48.090 --> 00:42:50.040
  • ABOUT THAT, THOUGH?
  • 00:42:50.060 --> 00:42:51.240
  • THE FACT THAT DESPITE THE DIFFICULTY, DESPITE THE
  • 00:42:51.260 --> 00:42:54.070
  • BROKEN HEART, DESPITE THE FRUSTRATION,
  • 00:42:54.090 --> 00:42:57.140
  • YOU LED WORSHIP ANYWAY?
  • 00:42:57.160 --> 00:42:59.020
  • - RIGHT, I ALWAYS TALK ABOUT THAT.
  • 00:42:59.040 --> 00:43:01.170
  • I TALK ABOUT THE FACT THAT I DECIDED
  • 00:43:01.190 --> 00:43:03.080
  • TO SING IN WAY.
  • 00:43:03.100 --> 00:43:04.270
  • IT'S NOT BECAUSE I'M NOBLE, IT'S BECAUSE I WAS
  • 00:43:04.290 --> 00:43:06.160
  • THERE, HAD A MICROPHONE, BUT EITHER WAY, I DECIDED
  • 00:43:06.180 --> 00:43:08.060
  • TO WORSHIP IN SPITE OF THE WAY THAT I FELT.
  • 00:43:08.080 --> 00:43:10.020
  • AND WHEN I MADE THE DECISION TO WORSHIP IN
  • 00:43:10.040 --> 00:43:12.200
  • SPITE OF THE WAY THAT I FELT, I HAVE NEVER, TO
  • 00:43:12.220 --> 00:43:15.060
  • THIS DAY, I HAVE NEVER HAD A
  • 00:43:15.080 --> 00:43:17.130
  • WORSHIP EXPERIENCE THAT DEEP. THE AUDIENCE EITHER.
  • 00:43:17.150 --> 00:43:20.040
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:43:20.060 --> 00:43:22.040
  • I TOLD THE AUDIENCE WHAT WAS GOING ON IN MY LIFE.
  • 00:43:22.060 --> 00:43:25.030
  • I'M SURE SOME OF THEM ARE LIKE, YO WE JUST
  • 00:43:25.050 --> 00:43:27.260
  • CAME TO WORSHIP.
  • 00:43:27.280 --> 00:43:29.180
  • THAT'S TOO MUCH, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?
  • 00:43:29.200 --> 00:43:31.040
  • BUT I TOLD THEM WHAT WAS GOING ON AND BY THE END,
  • 00:43:31.060 --> 00:43:32.210
  • BY THE TIME I OPENED MY EYES SINGING ONE OF THESE
  • 00:43:32.230 --> 00:43:34.160
  • SONGS, THERE WASN'T A DRY EYE IN THE ROOM
  • 00:43:34.180 --> 00:43:36.270
  • BECAUSE PEOPLE COULD SEE ME MAKING THE CHOICE TO
  • 00:43:36.290 --> 00:43:40.010
  • WORSHIP IN SPITE OF THE WAY THAT I FEEL, AND I
  • 00:43:40.030 --> 00:43:42.080
  • THINK THAT SPEAKS LOUDER SOMETIMES THAN PUTTING ON
  • 00:43:42.100 --> 00:43:44.110
  • A SLICK PRESENTATION OF WORSHIP; TO BE ABLE TO
  • 00:43:44.130 --> 00:43:47.060
  • UNDERSTAND -- MY DAD SAYS THIS ALL THE TIME --
  • 00:43:47.080 --> 00:43:49.140
  • FEELINGS DON'T HAVE INTELLECT, AND IN THAT
  • 00:43:49.160 --> 00:43:51.250
  • MOMENT, I FELT LEFT, LOST, ABANDONED, LIKE
  • 00:43:51.270 --> 00:43:53.280
  • GOD'S FORGOTTEN ABOUT ME, BUT I HAD TO BOUNCE MY
  • 00:43:54.000 --> 00:43:55.240
  • FEELINGS OFF THE TRUTH, AND THE TRUTH IS FOUND IN
  • 00:43:55.260 --> 00:43:58.030
  • VERSES LIKE PHILIPPIANS 1:6 THAT SAYS I AM
  • 00:43:58.050 --> 00:44:00.200
  • CONFIDENT IN THIS, THAT HE WHO BEGAN A GOOD WORK
  • 00:44:00.220 --> 00:44:02.230
  • WILL BE FAITHFUL TO COMPLETE IT, AND THAT'S
  • 00:44:02.250 --> 00:44:04.210
  • WHETHER WE FEEL LIKE IT OR NOT.
  • 00:44:04.230 --> 00:44:06.190
  • SO IN THAT MOMENT -- AGAIN, I'VE NEVER FELT
  • 00:44:06.210 --> 00:44:09.000
  • GOD MEET ME IN A DEEPER WAY THAN WORSHIPPING HIM
  • 00:44:09.020 --> 00:44:11.020
  • IN SPITE OF THE WAY I WAS FEELING.
  • 00:44:11.040 --> 00:44:13.080
  • AND THERE ARE THINGS THAT AREN'T INCLUDED IN THIS BOOK.
  • 00:44:13.100 --> 00:44:15.140
  • OUR FAMILY HAS GONE THROUGH SOME PRETTY
  • 00:44:15.160 --> 00:44:18.180
  • TRAGIC STUFF IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS, REALLY.
  • 00:44:18.200 --> 00:44:21.210
  • WE LOST A MEMBER OF OUR FAMILY, AND THIS IS AN
  • 00:44:21.230 --> 00:44:24.270
  • UNEXPECTED PLACE TO FIND ANY KIND OF
  • 00:44:24.290 --> 00:44:26.220
  • REDEEMING ANYTHING.
  • 00:44:26.240 --> 00:44:28.220
  • TO LOSE A YOUNG -- OUR COUSIN, SHE'S 38,
  • 00:44:28.240 --> 00:44:31.260
  • YOUNG, VIBRANT.
  • 00:44:31.280 --> 00:44:33.160
  • - FOUR SMALL DAUGHTERS.
  • 00:44:33.180 --> 00:44:36.050
  • - FOUR DAUGHTERS, TWINS THAT ARE 9 AND 12 AND 14.
  • 00:44:36.070 --> 00:44:40.050
  • TEXTING HER AT 5 O'CLOCK, AND THEN
  • 00:44:40.070 --> 00:44:44.210
  • LOST HER AT 6:30. SHE'S GONE.
  • 00:44:44.230 --> 00:44:46.280
  • I HAVE WATCHED MY COUSIN'S HUSBAND, WHO IS
  • 00:44:47.000 --> 00:44:51.060
  • ONE OF MY BEST FRIENDS, HE WAS MY MANAGER FOR
  • 00:44:51.080 --> 00:44:52.250
  • YEARS, I HAVE WATCHED HIM WORSHIP IN SPITE OF THAT
  • 00:44:52.270 --> 00:44:56.190
  • LOSS AND SEE HIM -- SEE THE LIVES THAT HAVE
  • 00:44:56.210 --> 00:45:02.000
  • ALREADY BEEN CHANGED AND ALTERED BECAUSE HE
  • 00:45:02.020 --> 00:45:04.180
  • DECIDED TO WORSHIP IN SPITE OF THE WAY THAT
  • 00:45:04.200 --> 00:45:06.010
  • HE'S FEELING RIGHT NOW.
  • 00:45:06.030 --> 00:45:07.250
  • AND IF HE CAN WORSHIP THROUGH THAT, I CAN
  • 00:45:07.270 --> 00:45:12.000
  • WORSHIP THROUGH ANYTHING.
  • 00:45:12.020 --> 00:45:14.110
  • AND I JUST LEFT HIS HOUSE THIS MORNING.
  • 00:45:14.130 --> 00:45:16.140
  • I FLEW HERE FROM THERE TO HELP HIM -- THE FAMILY'S
  • 00:45:16.160 --> 00:45:18.110
  • KIND OF ROTATING IN-AND-OUT TO HELP HIM
  • 00:45:18.130 --> 00:45:20.050
  • WITH THE KIDS, BUT MORNING DEVOTIONS WITH
  • 00:45:20.070 --> 00:45:23.250
  • THE KIDS AND PRAYING OVER THEM AND STILL
  • 00:45:23.270 --> 00:45:27.060
  • MINISTERING TO PEOPLE IN SPITE OF THE WAY
  • 00:45:27.080 --> 00:45:28.260
  • THAT HE FEELS.
  • 00:45:28.280 --> 00:45:30.250
  • AND IN THIS UNEXPECTED PLACE OF LOSS, AT THE
  • 00:45:30.270 --> 00:45:33.100
  • EVENT WE JUST CAME FROM, WE JUST SAW 30 OR 40
  • 00:45:33.120 --> 00:45:37.060
  • WOMEN GIVE THEIR LIVES TO THE LORD BASED ON OUR
  • 00:45:37.080 --> 00:45:39.290
  • COUSIN WINTER'S STORY.
  • 00:45:40.010 --> 00:45:41.230
  • THE NIGHT BEFORE WITH MY BROTHER, SAME THING.
  • 00:45:41.250 --> 00:45:43.220
  • PEOPLE ARE GIVING THEIR LIVES TO THE LORD BECAUSE
  • 00:45:43.240 --> 00:45:46.040
  • HE'S DECIDED TO WORSHIP IN SPITE OF WHAT HE'S
  • 00:45:46.060 --> 00:45:49.110
  • GOING THROUGH AT THIS MOMENT, AND THAT'S
  • 00:45:49.130 --> 00:45:51.220
  • WHAT IT'S ABOUT.
  • 00:45:51.240 --> 00:45:53.160
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:45:53.180 --> 00:45:56.280
  • - JUST TO YOUR POINT HERE.
  • 00:45:57.000 --> 00:46:00.170
  • I WAS JUST THINKING, AS YOU WERE TALKING,
  • 00:46:00.190 --> 00:46:02.270
  • REMEMBERING, GOSH, I GUESS 16 OR 17 YEARS AGO,
  • 00:46:02.290 --> 00:46:05.290
  • I HAD JUST FOUND OUT -- I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF I EVER
  • 00:46:06.010 --> 00:46:08.210
  • TOLD YOU THIS -- BUT I HAD JUST FOUND OUT THAT I
  • 00:46:08.230 --> 00:46:11.000
  • WAS PREGNANT WITH OUR FIRST CHILD, ME AND
  • 00:46:11.020 --> 00:46:13.100
  • JERRY, AND WE WERE TRAVELING TO CHICAGO.
  • 00:46:13.120 --> 00:46:15.250
  • I SURPRISED HIM ON THE AIRPLANE.
  • 00:46:15.270 --> 00:46:18.020
  • THE STEWARDESS COMING OVER THE AIRPLANE SPEAKER
  • 00:46:18.040 --> 00:46:21.040
  • TO SAY, HEY, THE GUY IN 22 A, YOU'RE GOING TO BE
  • 00:46:21.060 --> 00:46:23.200
  • A DAD FOR THE FIRST TIME.
  • 00:46:23.220 --> 00:46:25.070
  • IT WAS ALL FUN, AND THEN WE WERE GOING TO CHICAGO,
  • 00:46:25.090 --> 00:46:27.290
  • AND I WAS SPEAKING THERE, AND I WENT TO THE RESTROOM
  • 00:46:28.010 --> 00:46:30.170
  • BACKSTAGE RIGHT BEFORE GOING UP ON THE PLATFORM,
  • 00:46:30.190 --> 00:46:32.240
  • AND THERE WERE VERY CLEAR SIGNS THAT I WAS
  • 00:46:32.260 --> 00:46:35.050
  • HAVING A MISCARRIAGE.
  • 00:46:35.070 --> 00:46:36.260
  • SO THIS IS BEFORE JACKSON.
  • 00:46:36.280 --> 00:46:38.210
  • - YEAH, I REMEMBER.
  • 00:46:38.230 --> 00:46:40.090
  • - DO YOU REMEMBER THERE?
  • 00:46:40.110 --> 00:46:42.020
  • - NOT ALL OF THESE DETAILS, BUT I
  • 00:46:42.040 --> 00:46:43.250
  • REMEMBER THE STORY.
  • 00:46:43.270 --> 00:46:45.220
  • - YEAH, SO THE POINT IS JERRY'S SITTING WAY IN
  • 00:46:45.240 --> 00:46:47.070
  • THE BACK OF THE ROOM. I'M UP FRONT.
  • 00:46:47.090 --> 00:46:48.170
  • I CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT, AND I JUST HAD TO GO
  • 00:46:48.190 --> 00:46:50.100
  • UP THERE AND SPEAK AND SHARE WHAT THE LORD HAD
  • 00:46:50.120 --> 00:46:52.240
  • PUT ON MY HEART TO SHARE, ALL THE WHILE KNOWING THE
  • 00:46:52.260 --> 00:46:55.050
  • VERY REAL POSSIBILITY THAT I WAS HAVING A
  • 00:46:55.070 --> 00:46:57.030
  • MISCARRIAGE IN THAT MOMENT.
  • 00:46:57.050 --> 00:46:58.230
  • BUT IN THAT SESSION, I WATCHED GOD MOVE AND
  • 00:46:58.250 --> 00:47:02.160
  • IMPACT PEOPLE'S LIVES, AND THE REALITY IS THAT
  • 00:47:02.180 --> 00:47:05.000
  • SOMETIMES WHEN WE JUST PUT ONE FOOT IN FRONT OF
  • 00:47:05.020 --> 00:47:07.180
  • THE OTHER AND TRUST THAT HE WHO BEGAN A GOOD WORK
  • 00:47:07.200 --> 00:47:12.260
  • IS FAITHFUL TO COME COMPLETELY THE
  • 00:47:12.280 --> 00:47:14.120
  • WORK, YOU KNOW?
  • 00:47:14.140 --> 00:47:16.000
  • - YEAH, I REALLY BELIEVE THAT IF WE DO WHAT WE
  • 00:47:16.020 --> 00:47:17.220
  • CAN, GOD WILL ALWAYS DO WHAT WE CAN'T, AND THAT
  • 00:47:17.240 --> 00:47:20.150
  • IS THE BOTTOM LINE. THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE.
  • 00:47:20.170 --> 00:47:23.070
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:47:23.090 --> 00:47:25.020
  • I LIVE BY THAT.
  • 00:47:25.040 --> 00:47:26.260
  • I LIVE BY THAT, AND I ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY IN
  • 00:47:26.280 --> 00:47:28.110
  • THIS ROOM TO LIVE BY THAT, EVERYBODY WHO'S
  • 00:47:28.130 --> 00:47:29.260
  • WATCHING TO LIVE BY THAT.
  • 00:47:29.280 --> 00:47:31.200
  • DO WHAT YOU CAN, GOD WILL WORK ALL THINGS TOGETHER
  • 00:47:31.220 --> 00:47:33.180
  • FOR YOUR GOOD AND DO WHAT YOU CANNOT, ESPECIALLY
  • 00:47:33.200 --> 00:47:35.200
  • WHEN YOU'RE FACING UNEXPECTED SCENARIOS IN
  • 00:47:35.220 --> 00:47:38.030
  • UNEXPECTED PLACES.
  • 00:47:38.050 --> 00:47:40.010
  • - YEAH, AND THE REALITY IS THAT WHEN PEOPLE SAY,
  • 00:47:40.030 --> 00:47:41.290
  • I WANT TO KNOW GOD'S WILL FOR MY LIFE, SOMETIMES
  • 00:47:42.010 --> 00:47:44.290
  • HIS WILL IS BEST CLEARLY SEEN IN JUST DO THE NEXT THING.
  • 00:47:45.010 --> 00:47:50.020
  • WHAT HAS HE PUT IN FRONT OF YOU TO DO?
  • 00:47:50.040 --> 00:47:52.150
  • DO IT, DO IT, DO IT.
  • 00:47:52.170 --> 00:47:55.030
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:47:55.050 --> 00:47:58.090
  • - YEAH A HUNDRED PERCENT, ABSOLUTELY.
  • 00:47:58.110 --> 00:48:00.160
  • - BE OBEDIENT TO THAT.
  • 00:48:00.180 --> 00:48:02.090
  • SO HONESTLY, THAT'S WHAT YOUR STORY REALLY TEACHES
  • 00:48:02.110 --> 00:48:04.020
  • US IN SO MANY PLACES AND SEASONS OF LIFE WHERE YOU
  • 00:48:04.040 --> 00:48:06.280
  • HAVE CHOSEN TO BE SO HONEST WITH YOUR
  • 00:48:07.000 --> 00:48:09.110
  • STRUGGLE, WITH YOUR INTERNAL STRUGGLE, WITH
  • 00:48:09.130 --> 00:48:11.200
  • BOUTS OF DEPRESSION THAT YOU HAD TO REALLY
  • 00:48:11.220 --> 00:48:15.150
  • KIND OF -- AS YOUR FAMILY, WE HAD TO HELP TO
  • 00:48:15.170 --> 00:48:17.110
  • PULL YOU OUT OF.
  • 00:48:17.130 --> 00:48:18.210
  • YOU HAD TO BE PROACTIVE AND FIGHT FOR YOURSELF IN
  • 00:48:18.230 --> 00:48:20.010
  • THOSE WAYS; THE DOUBT, GETTING LABELS OFF OF YOU
  • 00:48:20.030 --> 00:48:23.190
  • WHERE OTHER PEOPLE HAD PUT LABELS ON YOU.
  • 00:48:23.210 --> 00:48:25.050
  • YOU'VE HAD TO WORK HARD.
  • 00:48:25.070 --> 00:48:26.090
  • THIS HASN'T BEEN JUST LIKE A
  • 00:48:26.110 --> 00:48:27.240
  • BREEZY FAIRYTALE STORY.
  • 00:48:27.260 --> 00:48:29.290
  • YOU'VE HAD TO WORK HARD TO GET YOURSELF OUT INTO
  • 00:48:30.010 --> 00:48:31.210
  • A PLACE OF HEALTH.
  • 00:48:31.230 --> 00:48:33.100
  • - YES, I'VE HAD TO WORK REALLY HARD, AND ONE OF
  • 00:48:33.120 --> 00:48:34.280
  • THE GREATEST THINGS I EVER DID WAS
  • 00:48:35.000 --> 00:48:37.070
  • DECIDE TO BE HONEST AND VULNERABLE AND
  • 00:48:37.090 --> 00:48:38.260
  • TRANSPARENT BECAUSE THAT SET ME UP WITH A
  • 00:48:38.280 --> 00:48:40.130
  • SOFT PLACE TO LAND.
  • 00:48:40.150 --> 00:48:41.290
  • I REMEMBER ASKING -- HE HAVE A FRIEND OF MINE
  • 00:48:42.010 --> 00:48:43.230
  • WHO'S AN ELITE GYMNAST, AND I SAID WHY ARE YOU
  • 00:48:43.250 --> 00:48:45.150
  • NOT AFRAID TO KEEP TRYING NEW SKILLS?
  • 00:48:45.170 --> 00:48:47.090
  • AND SHE JUST LOOKED AT ME AND SAID, BECAUSE I HAVE
  • 00:48:47.110 --> 00:48:49.000
  • A SOFT PLACE TO LAND.
  • 00:48:49.020 --> 00:48:50.190
  • AND I THOUGHT, THAT IS THE MOST AMAZING CONCEPT
  • 00:48:50.210 --> 00:48:54.170
  • BECAUSE SHE WILL CONTINUE TO TRY A SKILL UNTIL SHE
  • 00:48:54.190 --> 00:48:57.160
  • LANDS ON HER FEET BECAUSE SHE HAS A SOFT PLACE TO
  • 00:48:57.180 --> 00:48:59.190
  • LAND, AND I BELIEVE IT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY AS
  • 00:48:59.210 --> 00:49:02.060
  • BELIEVERS TO BE A SOFT PLACE FOR PEOPLE, BUT
  • 00:49:02.080 --> 00:49:04.270
  • THEN TO CREATE THAT THROUGH FRIENDSHIPS,
  • 00:49:04.290 --> 00:49:07.000
  • RELATIONSHIPS, COUNSELING.
  • 00:49:07.020 --> 00:49:08.200
  • IT CREATES A SOFT PLACE TO LAND, NOT FOR YOU TO
  • 00:49:08.220 --> 00:49:10.130
  • LAY DOWN AND DO NOTHING.
  • 00:49:10.150 --> 00:49:11.290
  • YOU HAVE TO GET UP AND YOU HAVE TO WORK, BUT YOU
  • 00:49:12.010 --> 00:49:13.260
  • CAN KEEP WORKING UNTIL YOU LAND ON YOUR FEET.
  • 00:49:13.280 --> 00:49:15.230
  • AND THIS BOOK SAY LOT OF THOSE STORIES AND
  • 00:49:15.250 --> 00:49:17.200
  • CHALLENGE IS TO THE AUDIENCE TOO KEEP
  • 00:49:17.220 --> 00:49:20.010
  • WORKING, AND EVENTUALLY YOU WILL LAND ON YOUR FEET.
  • 00:49:20.030 --> 00:49:22.210
  • MOST OF THESE CHAPTERS, I'VE LANDED ON MY
  • 00:49:22.230 --> 00:49:25.090
  • FEET AFTER A BOUT WITH SOMETHING PRETTY INTENSE.
  • 00:49:25.110 --> 00:49:28.220
  • - SO ANTHONY, WHAT IS NEXT FOR YOU?
  • 00:49:28.240 --> 00:49:32.160
  • LIKE WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE HAPPEN NEXT?
  • 00:49:32.180 --> 00:49:34.260
  • YOU KIND OF HAD A WORLD OPEN UP FOR YOU WITH MUSIC.
  • 00:49:34.280 --> 00:49:37.080
  • SOMEONE ASKED YOU TO BE IN A FILM "CAGED NO MORE".
  • 00:49:37.100 --> 00:49:40.100
  • YOU WRITE ABOUT THAT REQUEST LORETTA DIVINE.
  • 00:49:40.120 --> 00:49:42.170
  • ALL OF THE SUDDEN WE SAW YOU ON SCREEN
  • 00:49:42.190 --> 00:49:44.130
  • WITH LORETTA DIVINE.
  • 00:49:44.150 --> 00:49:46.040
  • WE WERE LIKE WHAT IN THE WORLD?
  • 00:49:46.060 --> 00:49:47.230
  • SO YOU'VE GOT FILM AND MUSIC AND YOUR PERSONAL
  • 00:49:47.250 --> 00:49:50.110
  • PRIVATE LIFE AND ALL THE GREAT THINGS HAPPENING,
  • 00:49:50.130 --> 00:49:52.140
  • SO KIND OF WHAT'S NEXT FOR YOU?
  • 00:49:52.160 --> 00:49:54.280
  • WHAT WOULD YOU LOVE TO SEE HAPPEN NEXT?
  • 00:49:55.000 --> 00:49:56.170
  • - WHAT'S NEXT FOR ME IS PURSUING EVERY
  • 00:49:56.190 --> 00:49:58.050
  • OPPORTUNITY I GET, TO PURSUE IT WITH
  • 00:49:58.070 --> 00:49:59.280
  • EXCELLENCE, AND TO USE THE TOOLS THAT GOD'S
  • 00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:02.230
  • GIVEN ME WHETHER IT'S MY VOICE, OR WRITING, OR THE
  • 00:50:02.250 --> 00:50:05.150
  • OPPORTUNITIES HE'S GIVEN ME IN HOLLYWOOD WHICH WE
  • 00:50:05.170 --> 00:50:07.030
  • HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO TALK ABOUT REALLY THAT MUCH,
  • 00:50:07.050 --> 00:50:08.190
  • BUT MY LIFE LOOKS THERE.
  • 00:50:08.210 --> 00:50:10.100
  • BUT IT'S BASICALLY USING THOSE -- OPTIMIZING THOSE
  • 00:50:10.120 --> 00:50:14.010
  • WITH THE END RESULT OF GETTING TO HEARTS FOR HIM.
  • 00:50:14.030 --> 00:50:17.120
  • THAT'S WHAT'S NEXT FOR ME BECAUSE WHEN I TRY TO MAP
  • 00:50:17.140 --> 00:50:19.110
  • OUT AND SAY, NEXT I WANT TO BE DOING THIS, IT
  • 00:50:19.130 --> 00:50:21.040
  • RARELY HAPPENS THAT WAY.
  • 00:50:21.060 --> 00:50:23.160
  • MY OBJECTIVE IS TO UNDERSTAND THAT GOD'S
  • 00:50:23.180 --> 00:50:26.100
  • LOVE FOR ME IS AGGRESSIVE, AND IT'S
  • 00:50:26.120 --> 00:50:28.220
  • RECKLESS, AND HE WANTS ME TO JUST GO AFTER
  • 00:50:28.240 --> 00:50:31.290
  • WHAT'S IN FRONT OF ME, LIKE YOU SAID,
  • 00:50:32.010 --> 00:50:34.090
  • WITH ALL I HAVE. THAT'S WHAT'S NEXT FOR ME.
  • 00:50:34.110 --> 00:50:36.160
  • - AND I'M SO GLAD THAT YOU SHARED YOUR STORY
  • 00:50:36.180 --> 00:50:39.090
  • BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE BLESSED BY THIS.
  • 00:50:39.110 --> 00:50:41.070
  • THEY REALLY ARE BECAUSE THE REASON WHY I THINK
  • 00:50:41.090 --> 00:50:43.000
  • THEY'RE GOING TO BE BLESSED IS BECAUSE
  • 00:50:43.020 --> 00:50:45.160
  • THEY'RE GOING TO SEE THEMSELVES IN THE BOOK.
  • 00:50:45.180 --> 00:50:47.120
  • THEY'RE GOING TO SEE THEMSELVES IN THE BOOK,
  • 00:50:47.140 --> 00:50:48.240
  • AND I KNOW THAT WAS YOUR POINT.
  • 00:50:48.260 --> 00:50:50.030
  • SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.
  • 00:50:50.050 --> 00:50:51.230
  • I AM SO GRATEFUL TO ANTHONY FOR A LOT OF THE REASONS.
  • 00:50:51.250 --> 00:50:54.010
  • HE'S ONE OF MY CLOSEST FRIENDS.
  • 00:50:54.030 --> 00:50:55.110
  • HE'S JUST MY BEST FRIEND, MY BABY BROTHER, AND I'M
  • 00:50:55.130 --> 00:50:57.000
  • PROUD OF HIM FOR THIS, AND I KNOW THAT YOU'RE
  • 00:50:57.020 --> 00:50:58.240
  • GOING TO BE EXCITED, AS WELL, WHEN YOU READ THIS
  • 00:50:58.260 --> 00:51:01.100
  • BOOK, AND THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE BLESSED BY IT.
  • 00:51:01.120 --> 00:51:03.070
  • THERE'S A BRAND NEW SONG THAT ANTHONY HAS RECORDED.
  • 00:51:03.090 --> 00:51:05.250
  • I'M GOING TO ASK HIM TO SING IN JUST A FEW MINUTES.
  • 00:51:05.270 --> 00:51:08.060
  • IT'S GOING TO BE REALLY GREAT.
  • 00:51:08.080 --> 00:51:10.010
  • IT'S GOING TO LEAD YOU TO THE THRONE OF GOD, TO
  • 00:51:10.030 --> 00:51:12.250
  • WORSHIP HIM FOR HIS RECKLESS LOVE FOR YOU,
  • 00:51:12.270 --> 00:51:15.080
  • THAT NO MATTER WHERE YOU FIND YOURSELF, WHETHER
  • 00:51:15.100 --> 00:51:17.110
  • IT'S ANY POSITION OF DOUBT OR DEPRESSION OR
  • 00:51:17.130 --> 00:51:19.150
  • STRUGGLE OR HARDSHIP OR WHATEVER IT IS, JUST KNOW
  • 00:51:19.170 --> 00:51:23.140
  • THAT THE RECKLESS LOVE OF GOD IS COMING AFTER YOU.
  • 00:51:23.160 --> 00:51:26.030
  • THE HOUND OF HEAVEN WILL FIND YOU WHEREVER YOU
  • 00:51:26.050 --> 00:51:29.210
  • ARE, WILL RESCUE YOU AND BRING YOU BACK INTO THE
  • 00:51:29.230 --> 00:51:32.000
  • MIGHTY ARMS OF GOD.
  • 00:51:32.020 --> 00:51:33.280
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:51:34.000 --> 00:51:38.070
  • BEFORE I SPOKE A WORD, YOU WERE SINGING OVER ME...
  • 00:51:38.090 --> 00:51:46.210
  • YOU'VE BEEN SO, SO GOOD TO ME...
  • 00:51:46.230 --> 00:51:55.070
  • BEFORE I TOOK A BREATH, YOU BREATHED YOUR
  • 00:51:55.090 --> 00:51:58.220
  • LIFE IN ME...
  • 00:51:58.240 --> 00:52:03.270
  • YOU'VE BEEN SO, SO KIND TO ME...
  • 00:52:03.290 --> 00:52:10.240
  • OH, THE OVERWHELMING, NEVER ENDING RECKLESS
  • 00:52:10.260 --> 00:52:15.250
  • LOVE OF GOD...
  • 00:52:15.270 --> 00:52:19.040
  • OH, IT CHASES ME DOWN, FIGHTS UNTIL I'M FOUND,
  • 00:52:19.060 --> 00:52:24.210
  • LEAVES THE 99...
  • 00:52:24.230 --> 00:52:27.250
  • I COULDN'T HURT IT...
  • 00:52:27.270 --> 00:52:30.030
  • I DON'T DESERVE IT...
  • 00:52:30.050 --> 00:52:32.100
  • STILL YOU GIVE YOURSELF AWAY...
  • 00:52:32.120 --> 00:52:36.190
  • OH, THE OVERWHELMING, NEVER ENDING RECKLESS
  • 00:52:36.210 --> 00:52:42.020
  • LOVE OF GOD...
  • 00:52:42.040 --> 00:52:46.040
  • OH...
  • 00:52:46.060 --> 00:52:56.290
  • OH...
  • 00:52:56.290 --> 00:53:04.180
  • BEFORE I SPOKE A WORD, YOU FOUGHT FOR ME...
  • 00:53:04.200 --> 00:53:13.230
  • YOU'VE BEEN SO, SO GOOD TO ME...
  • 00:53:13.250 --> 00:53:20.130
  • SO GOOD...
  • 00:53:20.150 --> 00:53:22.160
  • WHEN I FELT NO WORTH, YOU PAID IT ALL FOR ME...
  • 00:53:22.180 --> 00:53:30.230
  • YOU'VE BEEN SO, SO KIND TO ME...
  • 00:53:30.250 --> 00:53:37.250
  • OH, THE OVERWHELMING, NEVER ENDING RECKLESS
  • 00:53:37.270 --> 00:53:44.000
  • LOVE OF GOD...
  • 00:53:44.020 --> 00:53:46.020
  • OH, IT CHASES ME DOWN, FIGHTS UNTIL I'M FOUND,
  • 00:53:46.040 --> 00:53:51.150
  • LEAVES THE 99...
  • 00:53:51.170 --> 00:53:54.240
  • I COULDN'T HURT IT...
  • 00:53:54.260 --> 00:53:56.270
  • I DON'T DESERVE IT...
  • 00:53:56.290 --> 00:53:59.060
  • STILL YOU GIVE YOURSELF AWAY...
  • 00:53:59.080 --> 00:54:03.100
  • OH, THE OVERWHELMING, NEVER ENDING, RECKLESS
  • 00:54:03.120 --> 00:54:08.210
  • LOVE OF GOD...
  • 00:54:08.230 --> 00:54:12.130
  • OH...
  • 00:54:12.150 --> 00:54:24.040
  • OH...
  • 00:54:24.040 --> 00:54:31.230
  • THERE'S NO SHADOW YOU WON'T LIGHT UP...
  • 00:54:31.250 --> 00:54:34.010
  • MOUNTAIN YOU WON'T CLIMB UP...
  • 00:54:34.030 --> 00:54:36.110
  • COMING AFTER ME...
  • 00:54:36.130 --> 00:54:39.290
  • THERE'S NO WALL YOU WON'T KICK DOWN...
  • 00:54:40.010 --> 00:54:42.140
  • LIE YOU WON'T TEAR DOWN...
  • 00:54:42.160 --> 00:54:44.180
  • COMING AFTER ME...
  • 00:54:44.200 --> 00:54:48.170
  • THERE'S NO SHADOW YOU WON'T LIGHT UP...
  • 00:54:48.190 --> 00:54:51.060
  • MOUNTAIN YOU WON'T CLIMB UP...
  • 00:54:51.080 --> 00:54:53.020
  • COMING AFTER ME...
  • 00:54:53.040 --> 00:54:56.260
  • THERE'S NO WALL YOU WON'T KICK DOWN...
  • 00:54:56.280 --> 00:54:59.150
  • LIE YOU WON'T TEAR DOWN...
  • 00:54:59.170 --> 00:55:01.280
  • COMING AFTER ME...
  • 00:55:02.000 --> 00:55:05.180
  • THERE'S NO SHADOW YOU WON'T LIGHT UP...
  • 00:55:05.200 --> 00:55:08.120
  • MOUNTAIN YOU WON'T CLIMB UP...
  • 00:55:08.140 --> 00:55:10.120
  • COMING AFTER ME...
  • 00:55:10.140 --> 00:55:13.030
  • OH...
  • 00:55:13.050 --> 00:55:14.250
  • THERE'S NO WALL YOU WON'T KICK DOWN...
  • 00:55:14.270 --> 00:55:17.030
  • LIE YOU WON'T TEAR DOWN...
  • 00:55:17.050 --> 00:55:19.060
  • COMING AFTER ME...
  • 00:55:19.080 --> 00:55:23.020
  • THERE'S NO SHADOW YOU WON'T LIGHT UP...
  • 00:55:23.040 --> 00:55:29.100
  • OH...
  • 00:55:29.120 --> 00:55:32.030
  • THERE'S NO WALL YOU WON'T KICK DOWN...
  • 00:55:32.050 --> 00:55:35.000
  • LIE YOU WON'T TEAR DOWN COMING AFTER ME...
  • 00:55:35.020 --> 00:55:39.200
  • YOU'RE A GOOD FATHER...
  • 00:55:39.220 --> 00:55:42.210
  • IT'S WHO YOU ARE...
  • 00:55:42.230 --> 00:55:44.190
  • IT'S WHO YOU ARE...
  • 00:55:44.210 --> 00:55:47.200
  • AND I'M LOVED BY YOU...
  • 00:55:47.220 --> 00:55:50.170
  • IT'S WHO I AM...
  • 00:55:50.190 --> 00:55:52.270
  • IT'S WHO I AM...
  • 00:55:52.290 --> 00:55:55.240
  • OH YOU'RE A GOOD, GOOD FATHER...
  • 00:55:55.260 --> 00:55:59.080
  • THAT'S WHO YOU ARE...
  • 00:55:59.100 --> 00:56:04.100
  • REMEMBER THAT I'M LOVED BY YOU...
  • 00:56:04.120 --> 00:56:11.090
  • YOU'RE THE GREAT I AM...
  • 00:56:11.110 --> 00:56:16.080
  • THE OVERWHELMING, RECKLESS LOVE OF GOD...
  • 00:56:16.100 --> 00:56:23.280
  • OH, YOU CHASE ME DOWN...
  • 00:56:24.000 --> 00:56:26.110
  • YOU FIGHT UNTIL I'M FOUND...
  • 00:56:26.130 --> 00:56:28.200
  • YOU LEAVE THE 99...
  • 00:56:28.220 --> 00:56:31.200
  • I COULDN'T HURT IT...
  • 00:56:31.220 --> 00:56:33.270
  • I DON'T DESERVE IT...
  • 00:56:33.290 --> 00:56:36.080
  • STILL YOU GIVE YOURSELF AWAY...
  • 00:56:36.100 --> 00:56:41.040
  • THE OVERWHELMING, RECKLESS LOVE OF GOD...
  • 00:56:41.060 --> 00:56:48.200
  • OH...
  • 00:56:48.220 --> 00:56:57.150
  • WHOA...
  • 00:56:57.170 --> 00:57:03.240
  • THE RECKLESS LOVE OF GOD...
  • 00:57:03.260 --> 00:57:09.260
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:57:09.280 --> 00:57:14.120
  • [MUSIC]
  • 00:57:14.140 --> 00:57:19.270
  • [MUSIC]
  • 00:57:19.270 --> 00:57:27.140