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Praise | Mike Huckabee | 11/13/18

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November 13, 2018
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Matt & Laurie Crouch host Mike Huckabee.

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Praise | Mike Huckabee | 11/13/18

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  • (upbeat rock music)
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  • - [Announcer] Tonight on Praise, from Los Angeles,
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  • former Governor of Arkansas,
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  • and the host of Huckabee, here on TBN, Mike Huckabee,
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  • and now, Matt and Laurie Crouch.
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  • (audience applauding)
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  • - Welcome to Praise program.
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  • Today we are in Southern California,
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  • typically, Mike Huckabee, you're in Nashville
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  • doing the TV program. - You're on the wrong set.
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  • - Yes. - You're on the West Coast,
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  • you realize that, right?
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  • - No, I'm on the left coast. (Lori laughing)
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  • - That's where I am right now. - That's right, I gotcha.
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  • - Happy to be here.
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  • - Yeah. - Thank you.
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  • - What are we gonna be unpacking for the next one hour?
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  • - We're gonna be talking about
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  • a brand new book that I have out, and it's all about legacy.
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  • It's about what's important in life.
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  • When we finish this life, and all of us are gonna finish,
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  • maybe sooner than we want,
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  • but we're all gonna have a completion date,
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  • and when that moment comes,
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  • what is it that God is gonna say
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  • about our lives, 'cause that's what matters the most.
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  • Not what other people think,
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  • not what they thought,
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  • not what they said,
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  • but what God says,
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  • what he thinks.
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  • That's what matters.
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  • We'll talk about that.
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  • - Okay, unpacking legacy is really,
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  • if I think of what the definition is, you think,
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  • what are you teaching your children, your grandchildren?
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  • What kind of a life are you preparing for them,
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  • inheritance type issues,
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  • the scripture that says, a righteous man
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  • leaves for the children and the grandchildren,
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  • the children's children, and so,
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  • what what aspect does Rare, Medium or Done Well,
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  • what aspect is that, do you unpack the whole thing?
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  • - Pretty much, because what I tried to do in the book
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  • is to give people a sense that
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  • there are a number of aspects
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  • of the legacy they would leave.
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  • Part of it is the spiritual legacy
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  • that we leave with our children,
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  • our grandchildren, our friends,
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  • the people that we influence, people that we work for,
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  • or people who work for us,
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  • that sense of the human development,
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  • but there this also, the material things of life.
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  • What are we gonna do with them?
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  • We're not going to take them with us.
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  • As it was once said,
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  • nobody goes to the cemetery with a U-Haul
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  • hooked to the hearse. - Right.
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  • - Cause it ain't going with you.
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  • - Right.
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  • - And so what is going to happen to that stuff.
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  • I mean, will our kids get it?
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  • What are they going to do with it?
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  • - [Lori] Throw it away. - Throw it away.
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  • What are we gonna leave that might have an eternal value
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  • because there are material things that can be invested
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  • in such a way that they have
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  • eternal properties and eternal value,
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  • and then to prepare for that life
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  • that we're going to live beyond.
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  • And so, the title of the book Rare, Medium or Done Well,
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  • is sort of a play on the words obviously,
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  • like it's a steak, but some people
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  • live their lives so that they're not quite cooked.
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  • They never really prepared for their lives.
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  • They never thought about it and at the end of it,
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  • they're not really ready.
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  • Then there are others that you could say they're medium,
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  • and by that mediocre.
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  • They never did anything with excellence,
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  • with a sense of the purpose being so determined,
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  • that they were ready for that moment.
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  • And then there are those
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  • who will hear the six most important words
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  • that a human being will ever hear.
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  • If they hear these six words,
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  • I don't care what your neighbor said about ya,
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  • I don't care what the New York Times Editorial Board
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  • wrote about you, if you hear these six words,
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  • you lived a successful life.
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  • Here are the six words,
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  • when God says, well done, good and faithful servant.
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  • - [Matt] Wow. - That's it.
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  • - [Matt] Beautiful.
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  • - That's the whole reason to live.
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  • (audience claps) - Beautiful.
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  • The idea of legacy is an interesting thing
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  • to be sitting with you.
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  • First of all, I want to make note that
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  • this is the first time I've ever been with you
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  • where I'm wearing a tie and you're not,
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  • so I just thought.
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  • - I like this, I like it a lot.
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  • - I just, it's never happened before.
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  • So, basically like, - You're bitter aren't you?
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  • - (chuckling) Yeah, it's like,
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  • (laughing)
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  • I've never, not seen you wear a tie,
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  • so I wear a tie today and then you come casual, okay.
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  • So interesting to be talking with you about legacy
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  • and this is why.
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  • Where's the little town you were born in?
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  • Hope? - Hope, Arkansas.
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  • - Hope, Arkansas,
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  • we were talking before this program
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  • and you are the first male
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  • to even get a high school diploma.
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  • - That's correct. - [Matt] In your family.
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  • - Yeah, no male upstream from me,
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  • father, grandfather, great-grandfather,
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  • great-great-grandfather,
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  • never had even graduated from high school.
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  • I was the first to get out of high school
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  • and certainly to go to college,
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  • was like breaking the sound barrier for my family.
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  • - So you're talking and you've now written a book
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  • about legacy and what really matters, you know, all of that.
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  • So it doesn't matter where you start,
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  • it's kind of where you finish and start,
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  • for somebody that thinks legacy is only for people,
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  • and certainly isn't for me, kind of to start your story
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  • back in the good old days, as we say,
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  • and what was it like there in Hope, Arkansas,
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  • 60 somethin' years ago?
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  • - We didn't have to say 60 something years.
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  • (laughter)
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  • Kind of dates me.
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  • Growing up in a small, little insignificant town
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  • tucked away in the southwest corner of the state,
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  • it was not an important town, in the sense that,
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  • you know, it was a destination for people to come.
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  • Town of about 8.000 people,
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  • still about a town of 8.000 people.
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  • I lived on a nondescript street,
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  • Second Street in Hope, Arkansas,
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  • in a little orange brick rent house
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  • that my parents never owned until I'd left to go to college.
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  • My parents were hard working people.
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  • That's all they knew, hard work.
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  • My dad was a fireman and on his days off
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  • he would work as a mechanic, and he got his hands dirty.
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  • He knew what it was like to stand
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  • on a concrete floor all day,
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  • just getting into grit and grime
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  • of building and working on cars,
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  • and as I tell people, you know, I grew up in a household,
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  • and I'm sure others can relate to this,
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  • where their dads would come home
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  • and no matter how hard they scrub their hands,
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  • they never could quite get all the grime off of it,
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  • because it was just embedded, so I tell people
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  • I grew up in a house where the only soap
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  • I ever knew as a kid growing up, was Lava soap.
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  • - [Matt] Oh my goodness.
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  • - Now some of your audience will know, some don't,
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  • but let me put it this way.
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  • I was in college before I found out,
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  • it's not supposed to hurt when you take a shower.
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  • (audience laughs)
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  • I never knew that before,
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  • and I also said to some women, you know,
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  • ladies will go to a spa and they'll spend
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  • a lot of money to get an exfoliation.
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  • - [Matt] Yeah.
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  • - A bar of Lava will do the same thing for a lot less money.
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  • - [Lori] Cheaper!
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  • - But I do not suggest that husbands go buy their wife
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  • a bar of Lava and say on Valentine's Day,
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  • here honey go exfoliate yourself,
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  • 'cause you will lose some skin
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  • and Lava won't even be involved.
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  • (audience laughing)
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  • - You know I think people think about legacy though,
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  • I think people think, oh I'll worry about that
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  • when I'm older, you know,
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  • but I think that that young people that can think about it,
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  • especially if you have small children
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  • that every seed is a deed, you know,
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  • and everything that we do today matters in our future,
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  • and what we teach our children today
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  • are gonna matter in 10 years.
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  • You know there's so many children, I think right now,
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  • that I was sittin', talkin' to some friends the other day,
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  • and they've got three beautiful kids
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  • that have gone off to a very,
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  • liberal colleges and now they look up
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  • and they're out protesting and that,
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  • and there's really nothing that they can do about it.
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  • There's just, just serious steps happening right now
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  • in our nation.
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  • - I think it's really important what you just said,
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  • because legacy is about what we do now
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  • that will affect the future generations.
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  • I look at what my parents did in raising me.
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  • My parents didn't have a lot of money
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  • so they couldn't give me stuff.
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  • They couldn't send me to college,
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  • I had to pay my own way, which was a blessing.
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  • But what they gave me was a sense
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  • of personal responsibility.
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  • They gave me a real sense of understanding
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  • the value of respecting other people.
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  • My mother drilled into me,
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  • do unto others, as you would have them do unto you.
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  • I still hear that ringing in my head.
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  • They drilled into me, that I was to respect authority
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  • and respect elders.
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  • If my mother had ever heard me say, yeah, no, to an adult,
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  • well, let me just say this, in today's culture,
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  • she would be arrested for what she did to me.
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  • (audience laughs)
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  • Then, she was mother of the year,
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  • but that's how our culture has changed,
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  • but what hasn't changed is the importance
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  • of instilling in children
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  • a sense of right versus wrong.
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  • There really is a binary choice goin' on here
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  • and a lot of parents, I think, are failing to recognize
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  • that there aren't a hundred shades of gray
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  • when it comes to morality.
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  • It's right, it's wrong,
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  • it's good, it's not,
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  • and legacy really starts by helping our children
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  • and those around us, whether its employees or friends,
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  • to recognize that we have a personal responsibility to God.
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  • I don't get to say, well, hey God, so I messed up,
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  • but all my friends did too.
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  • I'm personally gonna stand before God,
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  • I'm not standing with a group.
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  • This isn't a group deal.
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  • I didn't come on a bus.
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  • I'm straightforward.
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  • It's me and God in that final moment,
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  • and that's when I want to hear
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  • those very important six words.
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  • I don't want to hear,
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  • why on earth did you spend your whole life
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  • totally ignoring me, and my will, and my purpose for you.
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  • - Wow, beautiful.
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  • Mike Huckabee is our guest all hour long,
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  • and by the way he's--
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  • - You sounded like it's gonna be a really long hour.
  • 00:10:17.190 --> 00:10:19.120
  • - Downer, all hour.
  • 00:10:19.120 --> 00:10:21.100
  • - It's gonna fly by, it's gonna go just like this.
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  • You have a very recognizable last name.
  • 00:10:25.000 --> 00:10:28.130
  • You must have a cousin or something in Dallas, Texas,
  • 00:10:28.130 --> 00:10:32.120
  • because on South Lake Boulevard near where we live.
  • 00:10:32.120 --> 00:10:36.150
  • There's the Huckabee Dentist.
  • 00:10:36.150 --> 00:10:38.120
  • So you must have some kind of cousin.
  • 00:10:38.120 --> 00:10:40.030
  • I mean, for real.
  • 00:10:40.030 --> 00:10:41.090
  • - He must have made good.
  • 00:10:41.090 --> 00:10:42.220
  • - Yeah, Huckabee Dentist or something.
  • 00:10:42.220 --> 00:10:44.280
  • - That's good to hear because my dad when I grew up,
  • 00:10:44.280 --> 00:10:46.040
  • this is no joke, he used to say son,
  • 00:10:46.040 --> 00:10:48.180
  • don't look very far up the family tree
  • 00:10:48.180 --> 00:10:50.200
  • there's some stuff up there you don't need to see.
  • 00:10:50.200 --> 00:10:53.050
  • (laughter)
  • 00:10:53.050 --> 00:10:54.260
  • - If we're introducing Mike Huckabee,
  • 00:10:54.260 --> 00:10:56.030
  • I doubt that's the case, but if we are,
  • 00:10:56.030 --> 00:10:57.290
  • we put together a little bio piece.
  • 00:10:57.290 --> 00:10:59.150
  • Take a look at this, Mike Huckabee.
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  • (upbeat rock instrumental)
  • 00:11:01.250 --> 00:11:06.060
  • - [Female Voiceover] Mike Huckabee
  • 00:11:06.060 --> 00:11:07.220
  • is a well known politician and broadcast personality.
  • 00:11:07.220 --> 00:11:09.190
  • - [Mike] While I grew up as poor
  • 00:11:09.190 --> 00:11:10.210
  • as most folks in Hope, Arkansas,
  • 00:11:10.210 --> 00:11:12.210
  • I never felt disadvantaged.
  • 00:11:12.210 --> 00:11:14.150
  • - [Female Voiceover] After an early career
  • 00:11:14.150 --> 00:11:16.040
  • as a broadcaster and running an ad agency,
  • 00:11:16.040 --> 00:11:18.180
  • Huckabee spent over 11 years as a pastor
  • 00:11:18.180 --> 00:11:21.050
  • before embarking on a political career.
  • 00:11:21.050 --> 00:11:23.150
  • After serving three years as Lieutenant Governor
  • 00:11:23.150 --> 00:11:25.270
  • and almost 11 years as Governor of Arkansas,
  • 00:11:25.270 --> 00:11:28.130
  • he announced his candidacy for President
  • 00:11:28.130 --> 00:11:30.150
  • in the 2008 GOP primary.
  • 00:11:30.150 --> 00:11:32.240
  • - Government in Washington is dysfunctional,
  • 00:11:32.240 --> 00:11:35.030
  • because it's become the roach motel.
  • 00:11:35.030 --> 00:11:38.020
  • People go in, but they never come out.
  • 00:11:38.020 --> 00:11:40.260
  • (audience claps and cheers)
  • 00:11:40.260 --> 00:11:42.030
  • - [Female Voiceover] Finishing second
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  • to John McCain that year,
  • 00:11:43.010 --> 00:11:44.130
  • he sought the GOP nomination again in 2016.
  • 00:11:44.130 --> 00:11:47.080
  • Fox News hired Huckabee as a political commentator
  • 00:11:47.080 --> 00:11:50.020
  • and regular contributor to their election coverage.
  • 00:11:50.020 --> 00:11:52.290
  • Mike has signed on with TBN for a weekly news and talk show
  • 00:11:52.290 --> 00:11:56.130
  • combining current issues and guests
  • 00:11:56.130 --> 00:11:58.050
  • from the world of politics, entertainment, and faith.
  • 00:11:58.050 --> 00:12:01.210
  • - [Mike] It was a series of events in my early life,
  • 00:12:01.210 --> 00:12:04.200
  • trusting Christ, playing the guitar,
  • 00:12:04.200 --> 00:12:07.120
  • getting a job at the radio station,
  • 00:12:07.120 --> 00:12:09.110
  • and student leadership positions,
  • 00:12:09.110 --> 00:12:11.140
  • that would lay the foundation for everything
  • 00:12:11.140 --> 00:12:13.170
  • that was to come, including launching a new show on TBN
  • 00:12:13.170 --> 00:12:18.000
  • and joining a wonderful family at this network
  • 00:12:18.000 --> 00:12:20.260
  • as well as those who are watching from home
  • 00:12:20.260 --> 00:12:23.290
  • and I have never had so much fun in my life.
  • 00:12:23.290 --> 00:12:28.030
  • - [Female Voiceover] Now, please welcome
  • 00:12:28.030 --> 00:12:29.060
  • Governor Mike Huckabee.
  • 00:12:29.060 --> 00:12:30.240
  • (audience clapping)
  • 00:12:32.070 --> 00:12:35.140
  • - We are in Southern California.
  • 00:12:35.140 --> 00:12:37.040
  • Mike Huckabee, we're talking about
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  • Rare, Medium or Done Well.
  • 00:12:38.240 --> 00:12:41.040
  • This is really about legacy,
  • 00:12:41.040 --> 00:12:43.070
  • you're kind of the age
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  • that you start writing books like that now.
  • 00:12:44.220 --> 00:12:47.050
  • (laughter)
  • 00:12:47.050 --> 00:12:49.210
  • - Could've gone all day without that but, uh.
  • 00:12:49.210 --> 00:12:52.010
  • - So make the most of your life,
  • 00:12:52.010 --> 00:12:55.140
  • one of the early chapters is called Potato Salad Time.
  • 00:12:55.140 --> 00:13:00.030
  • - [Mike] Yes.
  • 00:13:00.030 --> 00:13:00.280
  • - Please explain that.
  • 00:13:00.280 --> 00:13:02.050
  • - Well, first of all, this book is intended to
  • 00:13:02.050 --> 00:13:04.110
  • give people a practical, fun look, at something that
  • 00:13:04.110 --> 00:13:08.090
  • is not necessarily fun to consider.
  • 00:13:08.090 --> 00:13:09.270
  • - [Matt] Got it.
  • 00:13:09.270 --> 00:13:11.040
  • But in the South, when a person dies,
  • 00:13:11.040 --> 00:13:14.000
  • one of the things that is very,
  • 00:13:15.180 --> 00:13:17.130
  • just absolutely assured, is that people
  • 00:13:17.130 --> 00:13:20.120
  • are going to bring over a big bowl
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  • of potato salad to the home.
  • 00:13:21.230 --> 00:13:23.170
  • - [Matt] Really?
  • 00:13:23.170 --> 00:13:24.190
  • - And so a euphemistic way to say
  • 00:13:24.190 --> 00:13:26.270
  • about someone whose family member has passed away,
  • 00:13:26.270 --> 00:13:29.200
  • is to say, oh, it's potato salad time
  • 00:13:29.200 --> 00:13:32.010
  • over at the Huckabee house. - I got it, wow.
  • 00:13:32.010 --> 00:13:34.260
  • - Which means somebody's bringing some potato salad
  • 00:13:34.260 --> 00:13:36.060
  • and if they're bringing potato salad
  • 00:13:36.060 --> 00:13:37.230
  • somebody has passed away.
  • 00:13:37.230 --> 00:13:39.270
  • - [Matt] Oh my goodness. (Laurie laughing)
  • 00:13:39.270 --> 00:13:41.140
  • - So when, in the South, we talk about potato salad time,
  • 00:13:41.140 --> 00:13:43.210
  • what we're saying is, that's the end of the road.
  • 00:13:43.210 --> 00:13:46.060
  • - Oh my goodness.
  • 00:13:46.060 --> 00:13:47.130
  • - So you didn't know that did you?
  • 00:13:47.130 --> 00:13:48.110
  • - I had, I had never heard.
  • 00:13:48.110 --> 00:13:49.250
  • - That's what you get for living in California.
  • 00:13:49.250 --> 00:13:52.150
  • (laughter)
  • 00:13:52.150 --> 00:13:53.220
  • - Nobody brings a good meal over here.
  • 00:13:53.220 --> 00:13:54.160
  • - I know.
  • 00:13:54.160 --> 00:13:56.000
  • So the chapter on potato salad time is really saying that
  • 00:13:56.000 --> 00:13:58.170
  • we're all one day going to have that
  • 00:13:58.170 --> 00:14:00.290
  • bowl of potato salad brought for us.
  • 00:14:00.290 --> 00:14:03.020
  • - [Matt] Got it.
  • 00:14:03.020 --> 00:14:04.150
  • - It's one thing to bring it for someone else.
  • 00:14:04.150 --> 00:14:05.210
  • That's the good day,
  • 00:14:05.210 --> 00:14:07.000
  • but someday, the potato salad is for you
  • 00:14:07.000 --> 00:14:09.230
  • and you cannot escape it.
  • 00:14:09.230 --> 00:14:11.040
  • So when that day comes, how ready are you,
  • 00:14:11.040 --> 00:14:14.030
  • how prepared, and are you ready, not just saying,
  • 00:14:14.030 --> 00:14:16.270
  • oh I've got my funeral arrangements done
  • 00:14:16.270 --> 00:14:18.060
  • and the order of services all mapped out,
  • 00:14:18.060 --> 00:14:21.070
  • but are you ready for what that next moment,
  • 00:14:21.070 --> 00:14:24.070
  • when we close our eyes in death,
  • 00:14:24.070 --> 00:14:26.230
  • we are facing the Lord, what's he going to say.
  • 00:14:26.230 --> 00:14:30.070
  • Will he look at our lives and say, well done,
  • 00:14:30.070 --> 00:14:33.020
  • or will he say you really came to me pretty rare,
  • 00:14:33.020 --> 00:14:38.020
  • or pretty mediocre, that's what it means to prepare,
  • 00:14:39.160 --> 00:14:41.170
  • and it's all the aspects of our life.
  • 00:14:41.170 --> 00:14:43.250
  • What did we do with what we had.
  • 00:14:43.250 --> 00:14:45.260
  • God never judges me are you or anyone based on what we did.
  • 00:14:45.260 --> 00:14:50.260
  • It's what we did with what he gave us.
  • 00:14:51.290 --> 00:14:54.000
  • - [Matt] Oh my goodness.
  • 00:14:54.000 --> 00:14:54.290
  • - You know so somebody says,
  • 00:14:54.290 --> 00:14:56.150
  • God if I had a million dollars, I'd have given it to you.
  • 00:14:56.150 --> 00:14:59.070
  • His answer is going to be no you wouldn't of
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  • because I gave you 1.000
  • 00:15:02.110 --> 00:15:04.090
  • and you weren't very responsible with it.
  • 00:15:04.090 --> 00:15:05.050
  • - Wow.
  • 00:15:05.050 --> 00:15:06.110
  • - You know when we try to argue with God
  • 00:15:06.110 --> 00:15:08.160
  • that we would have done better if,
  • 00:15:08.160 --> 00:15:10.260
  • the if destroys it because God asked us to be a steward
  • 00:15:10.260 --> 00:15:14.100
  • or a manager or a caretaker of what we did have,
  • 00:15:14.100 --> 00:15:18.110
  • what we were given, not what we wish we had been given.
  • 00:15:18.110 --> 00:15:21.230
  • And a lot of people I think look at life and they believe,
  • 00:15:21.230 --> 00:15:25.070
  • well, I could have left a great, great amount of money
  • 00:15:25.070 --> 00:15:28.200
  • to TBN or to my church or something
  • 00:15:28.200 --> 00:15:32.080
  • if I'd had a lot more money.
  • 00:15:32.080 --> 00:15:33.270
  • The question is, with the money you had,
  • 00:15:33.270 --> 00:15:36.280
  • what did you do with it?
  • 00:15:36.280 --> 00:15:38.110
  • How did you leave it?
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  • That's what matters.
  • 00:15:39.180 --> 00:15:40.270
  • - You talk so much about faith in this,
  • 00:15:40.270 --> 00:15:43.070
  • and you talk about faith with the future.
  • 00:15:43.070 --> 00:15:45.030
  • - [Mike] Yeah.
  • 00:15:45.030 --> 00:15:46.010
  • - What do you mean by that?
  • 00:15:46.010 --> 00:15:47.060
  • - Well, our faith ought to develop for us
  • 00:15:47.060 --> 00:15:49.120
  • a sense that we're optimistic and hopeful.
  • 00:15:49.120 --> 00:15:52.140
  • Faith never takes a person to be pessimistic about life.
  • 00:15:52.140 --> 00:15:56.090
  • How could it?
  • 00:15:56.090 --> 00:15:57.170
  • If God is ultimately going to receive me,
  • 00:15:57.170 --> 00:16:00.220
  • then the worst day of my life is going to be matched
  • 00:16:00.220 --> 00:16:04.070
  • by my first day in eternity and there's nothing
  • 00:16:04.070 --> 00:16:07.200
  • that this earth can do to me
  • 00:16:07.200 --> 00:16:09.240
  • that is as bad as the good that God is already
  • 00:16:09.240 --> 00:16:13.080
  • doing for me and preparing me for,
  • 00:16:13.080 --> 00:16:15.230
  • and there's this wonderful scripture we all know,
  • 00:16:15.230 --> 00:16:17.240
  • Romans 8:28, and I talk about this verse in the book
  • 00:16:17.240 --> 00:16:20.240
  • and how it relates.
  • 00:16:20.240 --> 00:16:21.280
  • For we know that all things work together for good
  • 00:16:23.090 --> 00:16:25.200
  • to those who love God and who are the called
  • 00:16:25.200 --> 00:16:28.240
  • according to His purpose,
  • 00:16:28.240 --> 00:16:30.030
  • and a lot of people misread that verse
  • 00:16:30.030 --> 00:16:31.210
  • and they say, well, you know, the Bible says,
  • 00:16:31.210 --> 00:16:32.290
  • all things are good and I point out no,
  • 00:16:32.290 --> 00:16:35.090
  • there are some things that aren't good
  • 00:16:35.090 --> 00:16:36.200
  • there's some things that are not good at all.
  • 00:16:36.200 --> 00:16:38.090
  • When the doctor carries you down the hall,
  • 00:16:38.090 --> 00:16:39.260
  • puts you in that little room and gives you the diagnosis
  • 00:16:39.260 --> 00:16:42.030
  • and tells you, you've got cancer.
  • 00:16:42.030 --> 00:16:43.240
  • That's not good.
  • 00:16:43.240 --> 00:16:44.180
  • When you walk out of church you go to the parking lot
  • 00:16:46.010 --> 00:16:48.080
  • and your car has four flat tires.
  • 00:16:48.080 --> 00:16:49.260
  • That's not good.
  • 00:16:49.260 --> 00:16:51.040
  • Some things are not good.
  • 00:16:51.040 --> 00:16:52.230
  • God never said everything would be good
  • 00:16:52.230 --> 00:16:54.180
  • but he said all things would work together for good
  • 00:16:54.180 --> 00:16:58.120
  • and there's a story I tell in the book.
  • 00:16:58.120 --> 00:17:00.200
  • It's a true story,
  • 00:17:00.200 --> 00:17:02.230
  • cause all the stories in the book are true.
  • 00:17:02.230 --> 00:17:04.140
  • - [Matt] Come on now.
  • 00:17:04.140 --> 00:17:05.160
  • - But it's about when my wife was decorating cakes
  • 00:17:06.290 --> 00:17:09.050
  • and I was in graduate school,
  • 00:17:09.050 --> 00:17:10.120
  • she was trying to make a little extra money
  • 00:17:10.120 --> 00:17:12.100
  • and she would gather all the ingredients
  • 00:17:12.100 --> 00:17:14.030
  • that she would get for a cake.
  • 00:17:14.030 --> 00:17:16.020
  • The flour, the sugar, the butter, the cocoa,
  • 00:17:16.020 --> 00:17:18.220
  • the shortening, and everything that goes into a cake
  • 00:17:18.220 --> 00:17:20.190
  • and spread it out over the counter.
  • 00:17:20.190 --> 00:17:22.080
  • Take a recipe and she'd start making the cake.
  • 00:17:22.080 --> 00:17:25.260
  • I would come in and I'd see that she's
  • 00:17:25.260 --> 00:17:28.070
  • had all this stuff out.
  • 00:17:28.070 --> 00:17:29.190
  • So being the extraordinarily considerate husband,
  • 00:17:29.190 --> 00:17:33.000
  • I never said, hey, honey what's for dinner
  • 00:17:33.000 --> 00:17:35.080
  • because I saw that she was busy
  • 00:17:35.080 --> 00:17:37.040
  • and she was cooking a cake
  • 00:17:37.040 --> 00:17:38.120
  • that she was hopefully going to sell.
  • 00:17:38.120 --> 00:17:40.190
  • So I just go over and I'd get a spoon
  • 00:17:40.190 --> 00:17:42.120
  • and I'd eat Crisco out of the can, or,
  • 00:17:42.120 --> 00:17:44.160
  • I'd take a big box of that Hershey's dry cocoa
  • 00:17:44.160 --> 00:17:47.170
  • and chugalug that down wash it down
  • 00:17:47.170 --> 00:17:49.130
  • with some vanilla extract
  • 00:17:49.130 --> 00:17:51.150
  • and maybe gnaw on a stick of butter
  • 00:17:51.150 --> 00:17:52.280
  • and take a handful of flour and eat some of that.
  • 00:17:52.280 --> 00:17:55.220
  • Your audience visibly, audibly, groaned.
  • 00:17:55.220 --> 00:17:57.270
  • (laughing)
  • 00:17:57.270 --> 00:17:59.110
  • Now here's the point, that's not how you eat a cake.
  • 00:17:59.110 --> 00:18:01.220
  • - Right.
  • 00:18:01.220 --> 00:18:03.060
  • - Nobody would eat any of the single ingredients
  • 00:18:03.060 --> 00:18:05.290
  • of a cake when they're isolated in their raw form.
  • 00:18:05.290 --> 00:18:08.230
  • But that's not how you eat a cake.
  • 00:18:09.280 --> 00:18:11.240
  • You take all these unpleasant things
  • 00:18:11.240 --> 00:18:14.190
  • that unto themselves are disgusting,
  • 00:18:14.190 --> 00:18:17.210
  • and you put them in a bowl
  • 00:18:18.200 --> 00:18:20.100
  • and then you do something very violent to them,
  • 00:18:20.100 --> 00:18:22.210
  • you put them at the bottom of a mixer
  • 00:18:22.210 --> 00:18:26.120
  • and on the side of the mixer
  • 00:18:26.120 --> 00:18:27.150
  • there's some very violent words,
  • 00:18:27.150 --> 00:18:29.130
  • whip, beat. (laughing)
  • 00:18:29.130 --> 00:18:31.290
  • You know, bad things happen,
  • 00:18:31.290 --> 00:18:33.200
  • and you mix them all up,
  • 00:18:33.200 --> 00:18:35.070
  • so that they're not even recognizable,
  • 00:18:35.070 --> 00:18:37.180
  • and then your violence continues
  • 00:18:37.180 --> 00:18:39.130
  • when you put it into an oven twice enough,
  • 00:18:39.130 --> 00:18:41.200
  • hot enough to make your blood boil twice,
  • 00:18:41.200 --> 00:18:44.050
  • it comes out in a completely different molecular structure
  • 00:18:44.050 --> 00:18:46.220
  • than it went in and when it cools everybody wants some cake.
  • 00:18:46.220 --> 00:18:50.080
  • - [Matt] Wow.
  • 00:18:50.080 --> 00:18:51.060
  • - That's the finished product.
  • 00:18:51.060 --> 00:18:52.000
  • Here's the point,
  • 00:18:52.000 --> 00:18:53.110
  • all things are not good.
  • 00:18:53.110 --> 00:18:54.260
  • There's a lot of ingredients in our life that are not good
  • 00:18:54.260 --> 00:18:57.230
  • but all things work together
  • 00:18:58.220 --> 00:19:00.240
  • 'cause God's working off a recipe.
  • 00:19:00.240 --> 00:19:03.030
  • This is not happenstance.
  • 00:19:03.030 --> 00:19:04.190
  • - [Lori] That's good.
  • 00:19:04.190 --> 00:19:06.040
  • God has a plan and he's taken bits and pieces of things
  • 00:19:06.040 --> 00:19:08.020
  • that we think are unpleasant and horrible.
  • 00:19:08.020 --> 00:19:10.110
  • Don't worry because he's mixing them together
  • 00:19:10.110 --> 00:19:13.010
  • and the mix is not necessarily pleasant,
  • 00:19:13.010 --> 00:19:15.160
  • but when it's all done and we turn out to be like Jesus,
  • 00:19:15.160 --> 00:19:20.010
  • let me tell you something,
  • 00:19:20.010 --> 00:19:21.180
  • all things work together for good.
  • 00:19:21.180 --> 00:19:24.210
  • - Wow. - Love that.
  • 00:19:24.210 --> 00:19:25.230
  • (audience clapping)
  • 00:19:25.230 --> 00:19:27.060
  • - Don't look now the preachers coming out in you.
  • 00:19:27.060 --> 00:19:28.200
  • (Mike chuckles)
  • 00:19:28.200 --> 00:19:29.270
  • - I love this.
  • 00:19:29.270 --> 00:19:30.220
  • You say in the book
  • 00:19:30.220 --> 00:19:32.020
  • real faith takes care of what was
  • 00:19:32.020 --> 00:19:35.210
  • and empowers us for what is.
  • 00:19:35.210 --> 00:19:38.110
  • It also assures us of what will be.
  • 00:19:38.110 --> 00:19:41.020
  • Faith gives us a focus for our future,
  • 00:19:41.020 --> 00:19:43.240
  • helps us move towards our destiny,
  • 00:19:43.240 --> 00:19:45.220
  • and provides us the capacity
  • 00:19:45.220 --> 00:19:47.230
  • to continue working towards a done well life.
  • 00:19:47.230 --> 00:19:51.010
  • - Well, it simply means that
  • 00:19:51.010 --> 00:19:52.230
  • if we know that the destination is worth
  • 00:19:52.230 --> 00:19:56.060
  • the dusty part of the journey, we keep going.
  • 00:19:56.060 --> 00:19:59.240
  • - [Lori] Yeah.
  • 00:19:59.240 --> 00:20:01.000
  • - If we're unsure about how this ends up
  • 00:20:01.000 --> 00:20:03.060
  • then we very well may just give up and quit.
  • 00:20:03.060 --> 00:20:06.060
  • For the believer it's really important
  • 00:20:06.060 --> 00:20:08.260
  • to get the full story.
  • 00:20:08.260 --> 00:20:10.060
  • It's important to go to the back of the book
  • 00:20:10.060 --> 00:20:12.090
  • and read the last chapter and realize we win.
  • 00:20:12.090 --> 00:20:16.230
  • We're gonna come out okay.
  • 00:20:16.230 --> 00:20:18.050
  • And that's the single greatest message
  • 00:20:18.050 --> 00:20:20.080
  • that oughta motivated a believer is to say
  • 00:20:20.080 --> 00:20:22.160
  • I'm having a tough day, a tough month, a tough year,
  • 00:20:22.160 --> 00:20:25.240
  • there's some terrible things going on in my world right now,
  • 00:20:25.240 --> 00:20:29.180
  • but I know that God is taking me toward
  • 00:20:29.180 --> 00:20:34.130
  • a faith that has a real future,
  • 00:20:34.130 --> 00:20:37.090
  • that's the motivator.
  • 00:20:37.090 --> 00:20:38.210
  • Because how many of us would just give up?
  • 00:20:38.210 --> 00:20:41.120
  • Businesses failed, a marriage failed,
  • 00:20:41.120 --> 00:20:43.220
  • our health failed, things go wrong,
  • 00:20:43.220 --> 00:20:46.240
  • and we didn't plan it, we didn't want it.
  • 00:20:46.240 --> 00:20:48.240
  • We don't enjoy it.
  • 00:20:48.240 --> 00:20:50.020
  • There's some incredible detours we experience in life.
  • 00:20:51.130 --> 00:20:54.080
  • But if I know that ultimately all these detours
  • 00:20:54.080 --> 00:20:57.130
  • I'm going to get to the destination that God has for me
  • 00:20:57.130 --> 00:21:00.180
  • it gives me a very different sense of purpose
  • 00:21:00.180 --> 00:21:03.220
  • than for those people who have zero faith
  • 00:21:03.220 --> 00:21:06.040
  • and that's what I try to convey in this book is
  • 00:21:06.040 --> 00:21:08.200
  • don't give up.
  • 00:21:08.200 --> 00:21:10.050
  • There's a whole lot that's that's headed your way.
  • 00:21:10.050 --> 00:21:12.200
  • Just make sure that when you get to the finish line
  • 00:21:12.200 --> 00:21:15.010
  • you've done it well.
  • 00:21:15.010 --> 00:21:16.140
  • - Beautiful, wow.
  • 00:21:16.140 --> 00:21:17.210
  • I love that Mike.
  • 00:21:17.210 --> 00:21:18.280
  • Okay, help me with, what was your first job?
  • 00:21:18.280 --> 00:21:23.000
  • - Well my very first official job
  • 00:21:23.000 --> 00:21:25.240
  • was working at the radio station
  • 00:21:25.240 --> 00:21:27.060
  • and also working at JCPenney
  • 00:21:27.060 --> 00:21:28.190
  • but my very first job.
  • 00:21:28.190 --> 00:21:30.020
  • - Okay.
  • 00:21:30.020 --> 00:21:31.160
  • - Was picking up pop bottles around the neighborhood
  • 00:21:31.160 --> 00:21:32.230
  • to get money to buy baseballs and BBs
  • 00:21:32.230 --> 00:21:34.190
  • and then it was catching chickens,
  • 00:21:34.190 --> 00:21:37.010
  • which was the greatest motivator in my life.
  • 00:21:37.010 --> 00:21:39.040
  • If you've ever caught chickens in Arkansas in August.
  • 00:21:39.040 --> 00:21:41.110
  • (laughing)
  • 00:21:41.110 --> 00:21:42.180
  • And it's something you do when you're seven
  • 00:21:42.180 --> 00:21:44.020
  • and eight years old, it's basically slave labor
  • 00:21:44.020 --> 00:21:45.140
  • and it's the most--
  • 00:21:45.140 --> 00:21:46.200
  • - You were a chicken catcher?
  • 00:21:46.200 --> 00:21:48.040
  • - Yes.
  • 00:21:48.040 --> 00:21:49.090
  • And I'm going to tell you, every time,
  • 00:21:49.090 --> 00:21:51.130
  • because when you're a little kid,
  • 00:21:51.130 --> 00:21:53.000
  • that's all you can do and they would hire you
  • 00:21:53.000 --> 00:21:55.020
  • at so many pennies per chicken
  • 00:21:55.020 --> 00:21:57.030
  • and you've got there at 10 o'clock at night
  • 00:21:57.030 --> 00:21:58.170
  • you catch chickens all night you get, you know, a few bucks,
  • 00:21:58.170 --> 00:22:01.200
  • and that's how you would buy
  • 00:22:01.200 --> 00:22:04.010
  • tickets to the pool or whatever.
  • 00:22:04.010 --> 00:22:06.060
  • And I'm telling you it was horrible.
  • 00:22:06.060 --> 00:22:08.010
  • And all I would do is say,
  • 00:22:08.010 --> 00:22:09.090
  • what do I have to do, so I don't have to do
  • 00:22:09.090 --> 00:22:11.080
  • this for the rest of my life?
  • 00:22:11.080 --> 00:22:12.240
  • And I always hear get a good education,
  • 00:22:12.240 --> 00:22:14.100
  • work hard, treat people right.
  • 00:22:14.100 --> 00:22:15.240
  • So early in my life I was motivated to get an education,
  • 00:22:15.240 --> 00:22:20.010
  • work hard, treat people right,
  • 00:22:20.010 --> 00:22:21.220
  • cause the thought of catching chickens
  • 00:22:21.220 --> 00:22:23.270
  • for the rest of my life.
  • 00:22:23.270 --> 00:22:24.290
  • (audience laughs)
  • 00:22:24.290 --> 00:22:26.070
  • I don't love the Colonel that much.
  • 00:22:26.070 --> 00:22:27.130
  • I just don't.
  • 00:22:27.130 --> 00:22:28.260
  • - You're not embellishing that story at all.
  • 00:22:28.260 --> 00:22:30.220
  • - Not that's true.
  • 00:22:30.220 --> 00:22:32.000
  • - [Matt] You were a chicken catcher?
  • 00:22:32.000 --> 00:22:32.250
  • - Yes.
  • 00:22:32.250 --> 00:22:33.200
  • - As a kid?
  • 00:22:33.200 --> 00:22:34.270
  • Out in a big pen, a little pen, what size?
  • 00:22:34.270 --> 00:22:36.060
  • - Chicken house, a chicken house.
  • 00:22:36.060 --> 00:22:37.270
  • Do you know how bad a chicken house smells in August.
  • 00:22:37.270 --> 00:22:40.060
  • - [Matt] I don't.
  • 00:22:40.060 --> 00:22:41.040
  • - I cannot begin to tell you.
  • 00:22:41.040 --> 00:22:42.050
  • And they scratch you to pieces.
  • 00:22:42.050 --> 00:22:43.190
  • I'm telling you, not a person in this room wants to say,
  • 00:22:43.190 --> 00:22:46.070
  • honey, I believe I want be a chicken catcher someday.
  • 00:22:46.070 --> 00:22:50.050
  • - Got it.
  • 00:22:50.050 --> 00:22:51.200
  • So JCPenney's, then you went to the radio station.
  • 00:22:51.200 --> 00:22:53.240
  • - [Mike] Yes.
  • 00:22:53.240 --> 00:22:54.220
  • - You worked for James Robison.
  • 00:22:54.220 --> 00:22:55.260
  • - [Mike] I did.
  • 00:22:55.260 --> 00:22:57.070
  • - And that was an evangelistic kind of organization
  • 00:22:57.070 --> 00:23:00.110
  • for those that are watching on TV and James Robison,
  • 00:23:00.110 --> 00:23:02.080
  • everybody I think is familiar with James.
  • 00:23:02.080 --> 00:23:05.040
  • So you worked there then, then when did you,
  • 00:23:05.040 --> 00:23:08.190
  • then what happened to you?
  • 00:23:08.190 --> 00:23:09.270
  • What'd you go into then?
  • 00:23:09.270 --> 00:23:11.040
  • - I was in advertising and communications,
  • 00:23:11.040 --> 00:23:13.120
  • radio and television.
  • 00:23:13.120 --> 00:23:14.250
  • That's really what I thought my career would be
  • 00:23:14.250 --> 00:23:16.220
  • and maybe one day run for political office
  • 00:23:16.220 --> 00:23:19.020
  • and then I had one of these detours in life
  • 00:23:19.020 --> 00:23:21.030
  • where God took me to be a pastor of a church in Arkansas.
  • 00:23:21.030 --> 00:23:25.110
  • Long story but the short version is I ended up there,
  • 00:23:25.110 --> 00:23:28.140
  • had not intended to be a Pastor.
  • 00:23:29.170 --> 00:23:31.040
  • Pastored two different churches over the process
  • 00:23:31.040 --> 00:23:33.240
  • of about 11 and a half years
  • 00:23:33.240 --> 00:23:35.210
  • and it was like grad school for me,
  • 00:23:35.210 --> 00:23:37.120
  • it was God's, sort of preparation for the rest of my life
  • 00:23:37.120 --> 00:23:41.110
  • and the next chapter.
  • 00:23:41.110 --> 00:23:42.240
  • - Did you enjoy pastoring or was it something
  • 00:23:42.240 --> 00:23:45.260
  • you were kind of looking forward to getting past?
  • 00:23:45.260 --> 00:23:48.020
  • - No, I loved it, you have to understand,
  • 00:23:48.020 --> 00:23:49.220
  • I've come to realize it's best to love everything
  • 00:23:49.220 --> 00:23:53.220
  • that you're put into the midst of
  • 00:23:53.220 --> 00:23:56.090
  • because every part of it is a part of God's ultimate plan
  • 00:23:56.090 --> 00:24:00.120
  • to get you to the next chapter
  • 00:24:00.120 --> 00:24:01.240
  • that you may not have understood.
  • 00:24:01.240 --> 00:24:03.070
  • I would have been content if that had been
  • 00:24:03.070 --> 00:24:04.260
  • the rest of my life and I thought it very well may have been
  • 00:24:04.260 --> 00:24:08.150
  • but it turned out it was not.
  • 00:24:08.150 --> 00:24:09.250
  • - Even demon board, I mean Deacon boards?
  • 00:24:09.250 --> 00:24:12.030
  • (Mike chuckling)
  • 00:24:12.030 --> 00:24:13.150
  • - You were right the first time.
  • 00:24:13.150 --> 00:24:14.240
  • (laughter)
  • 00:24:14.240 --> 00:24:15.230
  • Well let's put it this way.
  • 00:24:15.230 --> 00:24:17.070
  • There are some things I don't miss about being a pastor
  • 00:24:17.070 --> 00:24:19.060
  • and that might be one of them,
  • 00:24:19.060 --> 00:24:21.140
  • wouldn't say for sure, but probably so.
  • 00:24:21.140 --> 00:24:23.080
  • - Okay then what happened, then, then then you're
  • 00:24:23.080 --> 00:24:26.140
  • you're a senior pastor of the church, then what happened?
  • 00:24:27.270 --> 00:24:30.060
  • - President of the Baptist Convention in Arkansas,
  • 00:24:30.060 --> 00:24:32.220
  • Denominational Leader and really felt led, called,
  • 00:24:32.220 --> 00:24:36.250
  • if you will, and I know for some people that
  • 00:24:36.250 --> 00:24:38.130
  • will be hard to understand.
  • 00:24:38.130 --> 00:24:39.110
  • But to to run for public office,
  • 00:24:39.110 --> 00:24:42.170
  • and so that's when this journey of politics began
  • 00:24:42.170 --> 00:24:46.090
  • almost 30 years ago,
  • 00:24:46.090 --> 00:24:48.060
  • and ran first race, lost,
  • 00:24:48.060 --> 00:24:50.270
  • then I ran for Lieutenant Governor of Arkansas and won,
  • 00:24:50.270 --> 00:24:53.200
  • won reelection, the Governor then resigned.
  • 00:24:53.200 --> 00:24:56.270
  • I became Governor than I was re-elected twice
  • 00:24:56.270 --> 00:24:59.040
  • so I served an unusually long time is Governor of Arkansas
  • 00:24:59.040 --> 00:25:02.280
  • and then I got the bright idea to run for President,
  • 00:25:02.280 --> 00:25:05.140
  • and that turned out so well
  • 00:25:05.140 --> 00:25:06.190
  • that I'm now hosting a show on TBN.
  • 00:25:06.190 --> 00:25:08.160
  • (laughter)
  • 00:25:08.160 --> 00:25:10.030
  • - Love it.
  • 00:25:10.030 --> 00:25:11.110
  • - All things work together for good.
  • 00:25:11.110 --> 00:25:12.090
  • - Yes they do, yes they do.
  • 00:25:12.090 --> 00:25:13.200
  • (audience clapping)
  • 00:25:13.200 --> 00:25:15.280
  • - Love it.
  • 00:25:15.280 --> 00:25:17.120
  • - So what we're talking about his legacy.
  • 00:25:17.120 --> 00:25:19.270
  • If you just tuned in, Governor Mike Huckabee is with us.
  • 00:25:19.270 --> 00:25:22.290
  • Oftentimes on the weekends we have,
  • 00:25:22.290 --> 00:25:27.290
  • well let me put it this way,
  • 00:25:28.250 --> 00:25:29.290
  • when we put your show on TBN,
  • 00:25:29.290 --> 00:25:32.230
  • our weekend ratings jump 225%.
  • 00:25:32.230 --> 00:25:37.150
  • For those that haven't seen the Huckabee show
  • 00:25:37.150 --> 00:25:40.040
  • on the weekends exclusively right here on TBN,
  • 00:25:40.040 --> 00:25:43.150
  • we put a few little clips together.
  • 00:25:43.150 --> 00:25:45.060
  • Watch this.
  • 00:25:45.060 --> 00:25:46.010
  • (upbeat rock instrumental)
  • 00:25:47.030 --> 00:25:47.280
  • - Now for the next hour,
  • 00:25:47.280 --> 00:25:49.140
  • we want you to enjoy a different kind of television show
  • 00:25:49.140 --> 00:25:51.220
  • intended to inform, encourage, and entertain.
  • 00:25:51.220 --> 00:25:55.120
  • (harmonica blues music)
  • 00:25:55.120 --> 00:25:58.220
  • (upbeat rock instrumental)
  • 00:25:59.220 --> 00:26:02.250
  • - You're gonna be here for 25 years I know it.
  • 00:26:02.250 --> 00:26:04.230
  • - I hope so cause I am having the time of my life.
  • 00:26:04.230 --> 00:26:07.230
  • - I love this guy right here.
  • 00:26:10.080 --> 00:26:12.120
  • - Your new group is so lucky to have you.
  • 00:26:12.120 --> 00:26:15.070
  • - You're our very first guest on the very first show.
  • 00:26:15.070 --> 00:26:18.140
  • - What's fun without a little danger?
  • 00:26:18.140 --> 00:26:19.280
  • What's danger without a little fun?
  • 00:26:19.280 --> 00:26:21.200
  • - [Female] Bacon roses!
  • 00:26:26.140 --> 00:26:28.050
  • - [Mike] Roses.
  • 00:26:28.050 --> 00:26:30.070
  • (laughter)
  • 00:26:30.070 --> 00:26:32.180
  • - I'm Jesus, and I forgive you.
  • 00:26:32.180 --> 00:26:34.160
  • (laughter and clapping)
  • 00:26:34.160 --> 00:26:36.040
  • - Here I am over here.
  • 00:26:36.040 --> 00:26:37.020
  • Here I am.
  • 00:26:37.020 --> 00:26:38.160
  • I think if you guys stay at it a little while longer
  • 00:26:38.160 --> 00:26:40.010
  • you might make a career out of this, I'm not sure.
  • 00:26:40.010 --> 00:26:43.090
  • I'm even gonna join the band from time to time
  • 00:26:44.140 --> 00:26:47.120
  • for my amusement and your amazement.
  • 00:26:47.120 --> 00:26:50.010
  • Finally get a Three Dog Night experience
  • 00:26:52.170 --> 00:26:56.060
  • with Chuck Negron, I'm pretty excited about this.
  • 00:26:56.060 --> 00:26:59.180
  • Very excited.
  • 00:26:59.180 --> 00:27:00.150
  • I love you my friend.
  • 00:27:02.140 --> 00:27:04.090
  • Have a good night.
  • 00:27:11.250 --> 00:27:13.250
  • (audience clapping)
  • 00:27:13.250 --> 00:27:16.250
  • - We're talking about legacy with Governor Mike Huckabee.
  • 00:27:18.090 --> 00:27:21.290
  • I'm on, guess it doesn't matter what page, 146.
  • 00:27:21.290 --> 00:27:26.290
  • I pity, those who think life consists
  • 00:27:28.040 --> 00:27:29.230
  • of nothing more than their years on Earth.
  • 00:27:29.230 --> 00:27:32.100
  • The most tragic are those who believe their value
  • 00:27:32.100 --> 00:27:34.220
  • as human being is tied to their net worth.
  • 00:27:34.220 --> 00:27:37.120
  • And those, and who's self esteem is linked
  • 00:27:37.120 --> 00:27:40.060
  • to how many people know them and like them,
  • 00:27:40.060 --> 00:27:42.220
  • it's far better to have confidence
  • 00:27:42.220 --> 00:27:44.140
  • that no matter how many life experiences come your way
  • 00:27:44.140 --> 00:27:48.150
  • that can be characterized as bad,
  • 00:27:48.150 --> 00:27:51.020
  • only small distractions and diversions
  • 00:27:52.030 --> 00:27:55.160
  • as we journey towards life and beyond this one.
  • 00:27:55.160 --> 00:27:59.040
  • Pick up that thought and continue from your own book.
  • 00:27:59.040 --> 00:28:02.140
  • - A lot of people do spend their lives
  • 00:28:02.140 --> 00:28:04.010
  • worried about how much money they have
  • 00:28:04.010 --> 00:28:06.080
  • worried about how famous they are
  • 00:28:06.080 --> 00:28:08.170
  • and they're frustrated, they think they're failures,
  • 00:28:08.170 --> 00:28:10.180
  • 'cause they're not rich.
  • 00:28:10.180 --> 00:28:12.040
  • Some of the richest people I know don't have a lot of money.
  • 00:28:12.040 --> 00:28:14.270
  • They're rich, you know why they're rich?
  • 00:28:14.270 --> 00:28:16.250
  • Because they invest their lives in other people.
  • 00:28:16.250 --> 00:28:18.170
  • - [Lori] Yeah.
  • 00:28:18.170 --> 00:28:19.240
  • - They don't, they don't hold it, they give it.
  • 00:28:19.240 --> 00:28:21.220
  • One of the stories I tell in the book is about
  • 00:28:23.030 --> 00:28:24.120
  • my middle son David,
  • 00:28:24.120 --> 00:28:26.230
  • he's a classic textbook middle child,
  • 00:28:26.230 --> 00:28:31.030
  • I can tell you that right now.
  • 00:28:31.030 --> 00:28:32.160
  • Any of you have middle children you'll understand.
  • 00:28:32.160 --> 00:28:34.250
  • One day my wife called and said come home, it's David.
  • 00:28:36.080 --> 00:28:38.030
  • I got home, she said your son, you need to come see.
  • 00:28:38.030 --> 00:28:41.250
  • It was always my son,
  • 00:28:41.250 --> 00:28:42.280
  • he'd gotten to the freezer, he was three years old,
  • 00:28:44.230 --> 00:28:47.080
  • turned it off, all the food in there had thawed out,
  • 00:28:47.080 --> 00:28:49.260
  • and everything in there thawed,
  • 00:28:51.050 --> 00:28:52.190
  • still refrigerated, still cool, hadn't spoiled,
  • 00:28:52.190 --> 00:28:55.030
  • but thoroughly thawed,
  • 00:28:55.030 --> 00:28:56.210
  • and my wife and I had a discussion of whether
  • 00:28:56.210 --> 00:28:58.070
  • we could just turn the freezer back on,
  • 00:28:58.070 --> 00:29:00.030
  • or, she said we couldn't, I said we could,
  • 00:29:00.030 --> 00:29:02.010
  • we call the county extension, they said we couldn't.
  • 00:29:02.010 --> 00:29:03.280
  • So I said, well, what are we going to do?
  • 00:29:03.280 --> 00:29:05.130
  • The lady said what you're going have to cook it, use it.
  • 00:29:05.130 --> 00:29:08.210
  • You ever cooked on entire freezer
  • 00:29:08.210 --> 00:29:10.050
  • worth of food in one night?
  • 00:29:10.050 --> 00:29:11.030
  • (Lori laughs)
  • 00:29:11.030 --> 00:29:11.280
  • But we did.
  • 00:29:11.280 --> 00:29:13.150
  • We invited people over and we gave all the food away.
  • 00:29:13.150 --> 00:29:15.050
  • We sent trays of food
  • 00:29:15.050 --> 00:29:16.180
  • to the neighbors and friends and family and staff
  • 00:29:16.180 --> 00:29:19.170
  • and that night I was trying to make sense of this
  • 00:29:19.170 --> 00:29:21.110
  • 'cause I think God teaches us great lessons
  • 00:29:21.110 --> 00:29:24.030
  • in the everyday experiences of life.
  • 00:29:24.030 --> 00:29:26.080
  • So what's the lesson?
  • 00:29:26.080 --> 00:29:27.140
  • The tuition on this was high,
  • 00:29:27.140 --> 00:29:29.130
  • I want to pass the course.
  • 00:29:29.130 --> 00:29:31.040
  • It's very clear we could throw that food away
  • 00:29:31.040 --> 00:29:34.110
  • or we could give it away, those were our choices.
  • 00:29:34.110 --> 00:29:36.160
  • If we'd have thrown it away
  • 00:29:36.160 --> 00:29:37.210
  • it'd have been a bitter night at our home,
  • 00:29:37.210 --> 00:29:40.030
  • taking big trash bags of food and setting them to the curb
  • 00:29:40.030 --> 00:29:42.260
  • would have been a bitter, angry night,
  • 00:29:42.260 --> 00:29:45.010
  • but instead we gave it all away.
  • 00:29:45.010 --> 00:29:46.210
  • - [Matt] Wow.
  • 00:29:46.210 --> 00:29:47.280
  • - And you know what we had joy and laughter
  • 00:29:47.280 --> 00:29:49.030
  • and we had fun that night.
  • 00:29:49.030 --> 00:29:51.100
  • Now, the friends had more fun than we did
  • 00:29:51.100 --> 00:29:53.040
  • cause I was buying all the food.
  • 00:29:53.040 --> 00:29:54.120
  • (laughter)
  • 00:29:54.120 --> 00:29:55.250
  • Here's the point, rich doesn't mean how much you have,
  • 00:29:55.250 --> 00:30:00.230
  • it means how much did you give away.
  • 00:30:01.290 --> 00:30:03.220
  • How much did you invest in other people?
  • 00:30:03.220 --> 00:30:07.090
  • And the happiest people I ever meet, Matt,
  • 00:30:07.090 --> 00:30:10.100
  • are the people who give life away,
  • 00:30:10.100 --> 00:30:12.240
  • and the most miserable people I meet
  • 00:30:12.240 --> 00:30:15.000
  • are the ones who try to hang on to it,
  • 00:30:15.000 --> 00:30:17.020
  • and I don't care if you have a billion dollars
  • 00:30:17.020 --> 00:30:20.020
  • or if you barely have $300,
  • 00:30:20.020 --> 00:30:22.150
  • people with $300 who give it away,
  • 00:30:22.150 --> 00:30:25.200
  • who invest in others, in God's work,
  • 00:30:25.200 --> 00:30:28.140
  • and in just helping people
  • 00:30:28.140 --> 00:30:31.060
  • are the happiest people I know.
  • 00:30:31.060 --> 00:30:33.130
  • The people who have billions of dollars
  • 00:30:33.130 --> 00:30:35.150
  • and try to hang on to it.
  • 00:30:35.150 --> 00:30:36.210
  • I don't care how much money they have
  • 00:30:36.210 --> 00:30:38.040
  • and how many wonderful things of the world they have,
  • 00:30:38.040 --> 00:30:41.050
  • they're not very happy.
  • 00:30:41.050 --> 00:30:43.030
  • So it's all about coming to that place of what matters.
  • 00:30:43.030 --> 00:30:46.110
  • - We're discussing Rare, Medium or Done Well.
  • 00:30:46.110 --> 00:30:50.000
  • This is a one of your latest books
  • 00:30:50.000 --> 00:30:52.050
  • and make the most out of your life.
  • 00:30:52.050 --> 00:30:55.150
  • For somebody that just tuned in
  • 00:30:55.150 --> 00:30:58.020
  • and has only joined the conversation halfway through,
  • 00:30:58.020 --> 00:31:02.100
  • and don't know how to get their clicker
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  • to rewind the show back and all that kind of stuff,
  • 00:31:04.200 --> 00:31:07.110
  • what are we talking about
  • 00:31:08.220 --> 00:31:10.020
  • and why did you name your book this?
  • 00:31:10.020 --> 00:31:12.150
  • - Well I want people to recognize
  • 00:31:12.150 --> 00:31:14.220
  • that the way we live our lives matters.
  • 00:31:14.220 --> 00:31:17.100
  • - [Matt] Okay.
  • 00:31:17.100 --> 00:31:18.170
  • - And we need to live intentionally toward
  • 00:31:18.170 --> 00:31:20.070
  • the finish line and not live for the weekend
  • 00:31:20.070 --> 00:31:23.120
  • but live for the life after.
  • 00:31:23.120 --> 00:31:25.200
  • And if we've live that way
  • 00:31:25.200 --> 00:31:27.070
  • then we're living for the ultimate not the immediate
  • 00:31:27.070 --> 00:31:29.280
  • and when we do that intentionally,
  • 00:31:29.280 --> 00:31:31.270
  • it means that we're thinking about the big picture,
  • 00:31:31.270 --> 00:31:36.040
  • we're thinking about that moment
  • 00:31:36.040 --> 00:31:37.200
  • when this life does come to a conclusion.
  • 00:31:37.200 --> 00:31:40.040
  • And I don't mean to be morbid but Matt,
  • 00:31:40.040 --> 00:31:42.120
  • let me just say to everyone watching,
  • 00:31:42.120 --> 00:31:44.170
  • I'm not sure what's going to happen 100 minutes from now
  • 00:31:46.010 --> 00:31:47.170
  • or 100 days from now, but I'm pretty confident in saying
  • 00:31:47.170 --> 00:31:50.030
  • that 100 years from right now.
  • 00:31:50.030 --> 00:31:52.040
  • - [Matt] Yeah
  • 00:31:52.040 --> 00:31:53.180
  • - Not a single person listening to us will still be around,
  • 00:31:53.180 --> 00:31:56.060
  • we're all gone.
  • 00:31:56.060 --> 00:31:57.210
  • What will have happened when this life ended
  • 00:31:57.210 --> 00:32:01.140
  • and we face God and he looks at us
  • 00:32:01.140 --> 00:32:05.150
  • and he says something to us in that moment.
  • 00:32:05.150 --> 00:32:07.120
  • What will we hear?
  • 00:32:07.120 --> 00:32:08.270
  • And my point of the book is, what we will need to hear,
  • 00:32:08.270 --> 00:32:11.150
  • is for God to tell us that we weren't rare,
  • 00:32:11.150 --> 00:32:13.190
  • we weren't not quite prepared,
  • 00:32:13.190 --> 00:32:16.170
  • we weren't medium which means mediocre,
  • 00:32:16.170 --> 00:32:19.000
  • not really great, not bad, just mediocre,
  • 00:32:19.000 --> 00:32:22.150
  • just kind of slack through.
  • 00:32:22.150 --> 00:32:25.110
  • But the greatest thing in the world is when he looks at us
  • 00:32:26.250 --> 00:32:30.070
  • and maybe we've never had great earthly wealth or riches,
  • 00:32:30.070 --> 00:32:34.010
  • maybe we are not known by people outside our neighborhood
  • 00:32:34.010 --> 00:32:37.040
  • in our church but we lived our lives
  • 00:32:37.040 --> 00:32:40.180
  • in a way that pleased God
  • 00:32:40.180 --> 00:32:42.240
  • and he looks at us and he says,
  • 00:32:42.240 --> 00:32:45.270
  • well done, good and faithful servant.
  • 00:32:45.270 --> 00:32:48.160
  • - [Matt] Beautiful.
  • 00:32:48.160 --> 00:32:49.110
  • Wow, nice.
  • 00:32:49.110 --> 00:32:50.260
  • - You talk a lot in the book about being debt free
  • 00:32:50.260 --> 00:32:53.010
  • and how to pass it down to your kids.
  • 00:32:53.010 --> 00:32:54.220
  • Can you help us with that a little bit?
  • 00:32:54.220 --> 00:32:56.070
  • - Well, a lot of people feel like to have to have stuff
  • 00:32:56.070 --> 00:32:59.120
  • and so they go into huge amounts of debt have stuff.
  • 00:32:59.120 --> 00:33:02.160
  • It's better to be able to have freedom
  • 00:33:02.160 --> 00:33:04.170
  • to have liberty and freedom doesn't come when every day
  • 00:33:04.170 --> 00:33:07.260
  • you're trying to figure out how do I pay these bills
  • 00:33:07.260 --> 00:33:10.190
  • that I really am paying on things
  • 00:33:10.190 --> 00:33:12.040
  • that I don't even have any more because the things
  • 00:33:12.040 --> 00:33:16.130
  • wore out, are broke before I got them paid for.
  • 00:33:16.130 --> 00:33:19.210
  • It's an important part of life is to live our lives.
  • 00:33:19.210 --> 00:33:23.170
  • It doesn't mean that there's no debt.
  • 00:33:23.170 --> 00:33:25.020
  • I mean, people buy homes, they buy certain things,
  • 00:33:25.020 --> 00:33:27.200
  • but don't have something that is of less value
  • 00:33:27.200 --> 00:33:31.180
  • than the debt you have in it
  • 00:33:31.180 --> 00:33:33.000
  • that's what's really important
  • 00:33:33.000 --> 00:33:34.130
  • and it be as debt free as is humanly possible
  • 00:33:34.130 --> 00:33:37.120
  • so that we're not being owned by our things,
  • 00:33:37.120 --> 00:33:40.180
  • we actually own the things
  • 00:33:40.180 --> 00:33:43.030
  • rather than them own us that's important.
  • 00:33:43.030 --> 00:33:45.060
  • - A priceless legacy, a good barometer of the value
  • 00:33:47.150 --> 00:33:51.140
  • of our possessions is to ask whether anyone will benefit
  • 00:33:51.140 --> 00:33:54.240
  • from our wealth a century from now.
  • 00:33:54.240 --> 00:33:57.040
  • You alluded to that a second ago.
  • 00:33:57.040 --> 00:33:58.270
  • If a parent gives a son new car and fine clothes
  • 00:33:58.270 --> 00:34:02.070
  • but fails to give them character, will the son
  • 00:34:02.070 --> 00:34:04.210
  • have benefited in the long term, kind of expand on that.
  • 00:34:04.210 --> 00:34:07.210
  • - Well, if all you can say that I've left with my children
  • 00:34:07.210 --> 00:34:11.150
  • is I've given them a car, I've given them a trust account
  • 00:34:11.150 --> 00:34:15.140
  • but they don't have the personal responsibility
  • 00:34:15.140 --> 00:34:17.160
  • to use it wisely, then they'll go through it
  • 00:34:17.160 --> 00:34:20.140
  • faster than the attorney can read the will
  • 00:34:20.140 --> 00:34:24.100
  • and it's really going to be a detriment to them.
  • 00:34:24.100 --> 00:34:26.220
  • You're going done them a disservice, not a service.
  • 00:34:26.220 --> 00:34:29.180
  • There's been a study that shows that when people won
  • 00:34:29.180 --> 00:34:31.030
  • a lottery, the overwhelming majority of them wish
  • 00:34:31.030 --> 00:34:33.050
  • they hadn't, after just a few years
  • 00:34:33.050 --> 00:34:36.040
  • because they find out that it wasn't what they thought.
  • 00:34:36.040 --> 00:34:39.160
  • So the point is we need to live our lives so that
  • 00:34:39.160 --> 00:34:42.080
  • as we're leaving something for our children
  • 00:34:42.080 --> 00:34:44.280
  • we're leaving them character, we're leaving them integrity,
  • 00:34:44.280 --> 00:34:47.230
  • the integrity of our own lives and the lessons
  • 00:34:47.230 --> 00:34:50.010
  • we're giving to them,
  • 00:34:50.010 --> 00:34:51.070
  • and we're also asking them to recognize,
  • 00:34:51.070 --> 00:34:53.200
  • I'm not going to leave you a bunch of money because if
  • 00:34:53.200 --> 00:34:55.240
  • you didn't work for it, you don't deserve to get it.
  • 00:34:55.240 --> 00:34:59.040
  • Rather I'm going to leave you, what I've given you most
  • 00:34:59.040 --> 00:35:02.120
  • importantly, which is honor, integrity, decency
  • 00:35:02.120 --> 00:35:06.230
  • and I'll leave you maybe a few material things,
  • 00:35:06.230 --> 00:35:09.150
  • but the most important material things
  • 00:35:09.150 --> 00:35:11.140
  • that I'm going to end up with, I'm going to leave,
  • 00:35:11.140 --> 00:35:14.200
  • whether it's to my church or to my alma mater or college,
  • 00:35:14.200 --> 00:35:18.190
  • to TBN, something that has eternal impact,
  • 00:35:18.190 --> 00:35:22.280
  • something that is continuing to touch people's lives
  • 00:35:22.280 --> 00:35:25.280
  • long after I'm gone and something that won't be just wasted
  • 00:35:25.280 --> 00:35:29.160
  • and thrown away, but they will actually have
  • 00:35:29.160 --> 00:35:32.280
  • eternal value in the salvation of people's souls.
  • 00:35:32.280 --> 00:35:37.240
  • That's worth investing in.
  • 00:35:37.240 --> 00:35:39.260
  • - When Sarah and David were growing up
  • 00:35:39.260 --> 00:35:44.030
  • where their kids that hung around
  • 00:35:44.030 --> 00:35:45.270
  • that you didn't necessarily want them to hang around,
  • 00:35:45.270 --> 00:35:48.060
  • how did you Miss Janet handle things like that?
  • 00:35:48.060 --> 00:35:51.080
  • - Well, you know, we felt it was part of a parental
  • 00:35:51.080 --> 00:35:53.270
  • responsibility, is to know who our kids were
  • 00:35:53.270 --> 00:35:57.010
  • hanging out with and to sometimes say, you know,
  • 00:35:57.010 --> 00:36:01.020
  • I don't think that's a good choice for you to hang out with.
  • 00:36:01.020 --> 00:36:04.110
  • And no, you can't go over to their house
  • 00:36:04.110 --> 00:36:07.000
  • because the parents aren't supervising.
  • 00:36:07.000 --> 00:36:09.190
  • Was that mean?
  • 00:36:10.160 --> 00:36:12.060
  • They thought it was then but they don't anymore
  • 00:36:12.060 --> 00:36:14.200
  • 'cause now they have their own children
  • 00:36:14.200 --> 00:36:16.230
  • and boy does it make a difference.
  • 00:36:16.230 --> 00:36:18.180
  • You know how we all grew up and our parents say
  • 00:36:18.180 --> 00:36:20.030
  • someday you'll thank me for this.
  • 00:36:20.030 --> 00:36:21.060
  • - Yeah.
  • 00:36:21.060 --> 00:36:22.110
  • - [Mike] We thought, no, we won't.
  • 00:36:22.110 --> 00:36:23.050
  • Yeah, we did.
  • 00:36:23.050 --> 00:36:24.000
  • - So earlier you were talking about
  • 00:36:25.110 --> 00:36:28.090
  • the ingredients of a cake.
  • 00:36:28.090 --> 00:36:29.260
  • If you take your life now and if we can
  • 00:36:32.030 --> 00:36:36.080
  • picture you as a beautifully finished birthday cake.
  • 00:36:36.080 --> 00:36:40.090
  • (chuckles)
  • 00:36:40.090 --> 00:36:41.290
  • - [Matt] So if we see frosting around--
  • 00:36:41.290 --> 00:36:44.040
  • - Rather than half baked, is it what you're saying?
  • 00:36:44.040 --> 00:36:45.090
  • - Yeah.
  • 00:36:45.090 --> 00:36:46.210
  • And so there you are sitting there and you're now
  • 00:36:46.210 --> 00:36:49.030
  • a beautifully adorned cake,
  • 00:36:49.030 --> 00:36:51.130
  • your life then and if we take
  • 00:36:52.290 --> 00:36:55.270
  • this section of your life was the butter,
  • 00:36:55.270 --> 00:36:57.270
  • and this section of life with shortening,
  • 00:36:57.270 --> 00:36:59.180
  • and this and you're a finished completed cake now.
  • 00:36:59.180 --> 00:37:02.200
  • - Minus the fire.
  • 00:37:04.280 --> 00:37:06.130
  • - Yeah and so what piece of life did you take away
  • 00:37:06.130 --> 00:37:10.160
  • from your political career?
  • 00:37:12.230 --> 00:37:14.230
  • What does that mean to who you are now
  • 00:37:14.230 --> 00:37:18.170
  • as a television host and a variety show kind of commentator,
  • 00:37:18.170 --> 00:37:23.170
  • you're still a contributor to the Fox News Network.
  • 00:37:25.000 --> 00:37:27.130
  • What did your political life,
  • 00:37:28.140 --> 00:37:31.010
  • what piece did that play of the finished Mike Huckabee?
  • 00:37:31.010 --> 00:37:34.020
  • - Well I think it taught me a sense of responsibility
  • 00:37:34.020 --> 00:37:38.080
  • being involved in government is a citizenship duty
  • 00:37:38.080 --> 00:37:42.030
  • that we have as Americans,
  • 00:37:42.030 --> 00:37:44.030
  • I often say everybody wants to eat from a clean plate
  • 00:37:45.210 --> 00:37:49.000
  • but that means somebody's got to do dishes.
  • 00:37:49.000 --> 00:37:51.050
  • So what I came out of it with was
  • 00:37:51.050 --> 00:37:53.160
  • that we all have a responsibility.
  • 00:37:53.160 --> 00:37:55.010
  • Not everybody should run for office,
  • 00:37:55.010 --> 00:37:56.210
  • I wouldn't wish that upon everyone but we all should be
  • 00:37:56.210 --> 00:38:00.130
  • active, engaged citizens who pray about their country
  • 00:38:00.130 --> 00:38:05.070
  • and about their voting, who think about it,
  • 00:38:05.070 --> 00:38:07.260
  • who get information so that they don't just take
  • 00:38:07.260 --> 00:38:09.290
  • what somebody on the new said and then they vote.
  • 00:38:09.290 --> 00:38:14.010
  • They actually participate in this incredible privilege
  • 00:38:14.010 --> 00:38:17.190
  • we have as Americans to choose our own government
  • 00:38:17.190 --> 00:38:19.280
  • which most people in the world don't get to do.
  • 00:38:19.280 --> 00:38:22.140
  • Their government is chosen for them
  • 00:38:22.140 --> 00:38:23.290
  • and they have no say in what it is just going to do it all.
  • 00:38:23.290 --> 00:38:27.120
  • Well, we can hire the government and we can fire them
  • 00:38:27.120 --> 00:38:29.290
  • and if we don't participate, we get what we deserve.
  • 00:38:29.290 --> 00:38:32.210
  • So part of my takeaway from again,
  • 00:38:32.210 --> 00:38:35.040
  • to almost 30 years of political involvement
  • 00:38:35.040 --> 00:38:37.230
  • is that it's personally my responsibility.
  • 00:38:37.230 --> 00:38:40.170
  • And the second thing I take away is that
  • 00:38:40.170 --> 00:38:43.200
  • it's a rough business.
  • 00:38:43.200 --> 00:38:45.140
  • I tell people don't run for office
  • 00:38:45.140 --> 00:38:47.130
  • if you can't stand to see the sight of your own blood
  • 00:38:47.130 --> 00:38:50.150
  • because you're going to see a lot of it.
  • 00:38:50.150 --> 00:38:52.270
  • It's brutal, it's worse than it was as getting worse.
  • 00:38:52.270 --> 00:38:56.070
  • Yeah, and that's unfortunate
  • 00:38:56.070 --> 00:38:58.010
  • but that doesn't mean we walk away from it.
  • 00:38:58.010 --> 00:38:59.290
  • It means that we recognize that there are some things
  • 00:38:59.290 --> 00:39:04.050
  • in life for which we will pay a price
  • 00:39:04.050 --> 00:39:07.060
  • and we will be misunderstood, we may even be hated
  • 00:39:07.060 --> 00:39:10.120
  • and that happens, I'll be in some maybe airport terminal
  • 00:39:10.120 --> 00:39:13.140
  • or in a hotel lobby and somebody will come up
  • 00:39:13.140 --> 00:39:16.000
  • and they'll say, I know who you are,
  • 00:39:16.000 --> 00:39:18.050
  • I know what you stand for and they'll let me have it,
  • 00:39:18.050 --> 00:39:20.180
  • they'll unload, they'll tell me what an idiot I am
  • 00:39:20.180 --> 00:39:23.100
  • and how ridiculously stupid I am,
  • 00:39:23.100 --> 00:39:26.020
  • and they'll go through this whole thing
  • 00:39:26.020 --> 00:39:27.170
  • and when they finish here's what I've learned to do.
  • 00:39:27.170 --> 00:39:29.000
  • Don't argue with them because that's what they want.
  • 00:39:29.000 --> 00:39:31.010
  • They want to have this fight because they're full of fight
  • 00:39:31.010 --> 00:39:34.000
  • and when they finish I just look at them and smile,
  • 00:39:34.000 --> 00:39:35.270
  • I say, you know, funny you should say that
  • 00:39:35.270 --> 00:39:37.150
  • because my wife said the same thing to me today
  • 00:39:37.150 --> 00:39:40.080
  • and almost every day of my life.
  • 00:39:40.080 --> 00:39:42.040
  • Totally messes them up and they look at me like,
  • 00:39:42.040 --> 00:39:45.120
  • oh, okay, and they just walk away.
  • 00:39:45.120 --> 00:39:47.170
  • (audience laughing)
  • 00:39:47.170 --> 00:39:49.020
  • - So a day in the life of a Governor.
  • 00:39:49.020 --> 00:39:52.100
  • Once you've been a Governor of a state,
  • 00:39:52.100 --> 00:39:54.170
  • you're known as the Gov for the rest of your life,
  • 00:39:54.170 --> 00:39:56.170
  • you're Governor Mike Huckabee.
  • 00:39:56.170 --> 00:39:57.240
  • - [Mike] Yeah.
  • 00:39:57.240 --> 00:39:59.020
  • - So how many employees did you have?
  • 00:39:59.020 --> 00:40:00.290
  • - If you added everybody was over 75.000.
  • 00:40:02.010 --> 00:40:04.200
  • - What was your budget in Arkansas?
  • 00:40:04.200 --> 00:40:06.220
  • - It was $12 billion dollars.
  • 00:40:06.220 --> 00:40:09.140
  • - Did you run as a balanced budget?
  • 00:40:09.140 --> 00:40:12.050
  • Did you have a deficit, did you have a surplus?
  • 00:40:12.050 --> 00:40:14.120
  • What was your--
  • 00:40:14.120 --> 00:40:15.070
  • - We balanced the budget
  • 00:40:15.070 --> 00:40:16.160
  • and what a lot of people don't know
  • 00:40:16.160 --> 00:40:17.290
  • is that every one of the states, except Vermont,
  • 00:40:17.290 --> 00:40:20.160
  • is required by law to balance the budget.
  • 00:40:20.160 --> 00:40:22.260
  • I think the federal government by the way,
  • 00:40:22.260 --> 00:40:24.110
  • should be required to balance their budget, too.
  • 00:40:24.110 --> 00:40:26.180
  • - [Matt] Yeah, wow.
  • 00:40:26.180 --> 00:40:27.210
  • (audience clapping)
  • 00:40:27.210 --> 00:40:28.290
  • - It would make a big difference.
  • 00:40:28.290 --> 00:40:30.140
  • And I'm very much in favor of amending the constitution
  • 00:40:30.140 --> 00:40:33.100
  • that would force Congress to balance the federal budget
  • 00:40:33.100 --> 00:40:35.200
  • because if you don't force it, it doesn't happen.
  • 00:40:35.200 --> 00:40:39.040
  • - Is it possible, though?
  • 00:40:39.040 --> 00:40:40.130
  • I mean, with the entitlements of,
  • 00:40:40.130 --> 00:40:42.160
  • look I don't know anything about politics
  • 00:40:43.190 --> 00:40:45.090
  • but it it feels like, if you took the US government's,
  • 00:40:45.090 --> 00:40:49.220
  • budget, there's a big piece of the pie on a pie chart
  • 00:40:51.050 --> 00:40:54.270
  • that is Medicare, Medicaid, so is it even possible to
  • 00:40:54.270 --> 00:40:58.110
  • balance it anymore?
  • 00:40:58.110 --> 00:40:59.100
  • - It actually is.
  • 00:40:59.100 --> 00:41:00.200
  • And part of it would be that we would
  • 00:41:00.200 --> 00:41:02.290
  • recognize that we have a debt and we start spending it down.
  • 00:41:02.290 --> 00:41:05.230
  • We spend it down, not by cutting what people
  • 00:41:05.230 --> 00:41:08.120
  • have a right to get, social security and medicare
  • 00:41:08.120 --> 00:41:11.100
  • for example are not like giveaways,
  • 00:41:11.100 --> 00:41:14.000
  • those aren't welfare programs, people paid into those.
  • 00:41:14.000 --> 00:41:17.020
  • Involuntarily, let me add.
  • 00:41:17.020 --> 00:41:18.290
  • I've been paying into him since I was 14.
  • 00:41:18.290 --> 00:41:20.280
  • - [Matt] Yeah, hello.
  • 00:41:20.280 --> 00:41:22.000
  • (audience clapping)
  • 00:41:22.000 --> 00:41:23.080
  • - Nobody asked me, nobody asked me
  • 00:41:23.080 --> 00:41:25.060
  • if I wanted to make a little contribution here.
  • 00:41:25.060 --> 00:41:27.210
  • They took that out of my check
  • 00:41:27.210 --> 00:41:29.190
  • and they've been doing it for years.
  • 00:41:29.190 --> 00:41:31.100
  • So that was my money.
  • 00:41:32.080 --> 00:41:33.150
  • That wasn't the government's money
  • 00:41:33.150 --> 00:41:35.000
  • and when I hear people say, well, we're gonna have to cut
  • 00:41:35.000 --> 00:41:36.130
  • social security medicare said, wait a minute.
  • 00:41:36.130 --> 00:41:38.130
  • You should have told me that when I was 14,
  • 00:41:38.130 --> 00:41:40.040
  • give me an option, you didn't.
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  • So keep your filthy fingers off my money
  • 00:41:41.250 --> 00:41:44.050
  • is what I'm telling you.
  • 00:41:44.050 --> 00:41:45.200
  • But what we do have to do is to recognize that
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  • if you have a certain amount of money
  • 00:41:48.110 --> 00:41:50.030
  • coming into the federal treasury,
  • 00:41:50.030 --> 00:41:51.250
  • you cannot continue to deficit spend
  • 00:41:51.250 --> 00:41:54.210
  • and that's really what a balanced budget would do
  • 00:41:54.210 --> 00:41:57.120
  • it would say that you have to
  • 00:41:57.120 --> 00:41:58.240
  • be able to zero out your books.
  • 00:41:58.240 --> 00:42:01.040
  • What do you have to do in your household.
  • 00:42:01.040 --> 00:42:03.060
  • You can't just spend money you don't have,
  • 00:42:04.200 --> 00:42:06.280
  • you can't borrow money that you can't afford to pay back
  • 00:42:06.280 --> 00:42:09.030
  • and that's what a balanced budget would do.
  • 00:42:09.030 --> 00:42:11.020
  • - When was the last time the US had a balanced budget?
  • 00:42:11.020 --> 00:42:14.120
  • - We balanced the budget in the 90s,
  • 00:42:14.120 --> 00:42:16.150
  • we actually did and we still had a huge debt
  • 00:42:16.150 --> 00:42:19.060
  • but we had a balanced budget
  • 00:42:19.060 --> 00:42:21.080
  • but it hasn't happened since then.
  • 00:42:21.080 --> 00:42:23.240
  • And what happened?
  • 00:42:23.240 --> 00:42:26.100
  • Was it 9/11 that started kind of undoing that?
  • 00:42:26.100 --> 00:42:30.080
  • What happened?
  • 00:42:30.080 --> 00:42:31.220
  • - That was certainly, there was an economic downturn in 9/11
  • 00:42:31.220 --> 00:42:33.290
  • that exacerbated it, but a lot of it is that
  • 00:42:33.290 --> 00:42:36.180
  • you got politicians who when they get elected
  • 00:42:36.180 --> 00:42:39.040
  • know they don't have to balance the budget
  • 00:42:39.040 --> 00:42:40.260
  • and they can spend the money and they can promise people
  • 00:42:40.260 --> 00:42:44.110
  • things with the money that they're spending
  • 00:42:44.110 --> 00:42:46.160
  • and that's what happens.
  • 00:42:46.160 --> 00:42:48.000
  • And so if people aren't held accountable--
  • 00:42:48.000 --> 00:42:49.190
  • I mean, when I was a Governor,
  • 00:42:49.190 --> 00:42:50.230
  • if I had not balanced the budget,
  • 00:42:50.230 --> 00:42:53.050
  • I would have been breaking the law,
  • 00:42:53.050 --> 00:42:54.160
  • I could have potentially gone to jail.
  • 00:42:54.160 --> 00:42:56.210
  • Well I ran our prison system since I was Governor
  • 00:42:56.210 --> 00:42:59.130
  • and there wasn't a one of our prisons I ever wanted
  • 00:42:59.130 --> 00:43:01.160
  • to spend the night in.
  • 00:43:01.160 --> 00:43:02.230
  • So let me tell you that's an incentive
  • 00:43:02.230 --> 00:43:04.040
  • to balance the budget.
  • 00:43:04.040 --> 00:43:05.220
  • - Could you balance it?
  • 00:43:05.220 --> 00:43:06.290
  • - At the federal level?
  • 00:43:07.290 --> 00:43:09.020
  • - [Matt] Yeah.
  • 00:43:09.020 --> 00:43:10.020
  • - I think I could.
  • 00:43:10.020 --> 00:43:11.090
  • - [Matt] How do you get there?
  • 00:43:11.090 --> 00:43:12.230
  • I mean, what's step one?
  • 00:43:12.230 --> 00:43:14.100
  • - Well once again, you say,
  • 00:43:14.100 --> 00:43:15.160
  • here's how much money we have coming in,
  • 00:43:15.160 --> 00:43:17.220
  • you don't spend 100% of it, you only spend 90 to 95
  • 00:43:17.220 --> 00:43:20.260
  • so that you're never spending
  • 00:43:20.260 --> 00:43:22.130
  • all that you have coming in, you have to have some reserve
  • 00:43:22.130 --> 00:43:26.130
  • and then you just say, alright of all
  • 00:43:26.130 --> 00:43:28.230
  • these different expenditures we have,
  • 00:43:28.230 --> 00:43:30.150
  • everything's going to be cut.
  • 00:43:30.150 --> 00:43:32.030
  • For example, the President recently just said
  • 00:43:32.030 --> 00:43:34.030
  • he's going to ask every single federal agency to cut 5%
  • 00:43:34.030 --> 00:43:37.210
  • now every agency can do that.
  • 00:43:37.210 --> 00:43:40.250
  • When people say, oh, that'll kill us, no it won't.
  • 00:43:40.250 --> 00:43:42.270
  • You can cut 5% out of every agency
  • 00:43:42.270 --> 00:43:45.180
  • that's the very first step in moving towards
  • 00:43:45.180 --> 00:43:48.150
  • a balanced budget is simply saying we're not going to spend
  • 00:43:48.150 --> 00:43:51.210
  • every dime that comes in,
  • 00:43:51.210 --> 00:43:52.290
  • plus some dimes that didn't come in.
  • 00:43:52.290 --> 00:43:54.190
  • - Did you inherit a balanced budget
  • 00:43:54.190 --> 00:43:57.210
  • or were you in a deficit or surplus when--
  • 00:43:57.210 --> 00:44:01.130
  • - Well we could say the budget was balanced,
  • 00:44:01.130 --> 00:44:03.190
  • but there was some deficit that I inherited
  • 00:44:03.190 --> 00:44:05.100
  • when I became Governor and we were able to try that down
  • 00:44:05.100 --> 00:44:07.250
  • when I left there was a surplus.
  • 00:44:07.250 --> 00:44:09.060
  • So, I was very mindful of the fact
  • 00:44:09.060 --> 00:44:11.140
  • that I didn't want to leave the next Governor with
  • 00:44:11.140 --> 00:44:14.050
  • something he was going to have to try to clean up and fix.
  • 00:44:14.050 --> 00:44:17.020
  • - You're a good man.
  • 00:44:17.020 --> 00:44:18.230
  • - I'm going to quote you on that Lori thank you.
  • 00:44:18.230 --> 00:44:21.090
  • (audience clapping)
  • 00:44:21.090 --> 00:44:24.090
  • - When you look back on being a Governor,
  • 00:44:25.150 --> 00:44:28.260
  • waking up every day, you're a governor of a state
  • 00:44:28.260 --> 00:44:32.230
  • and because the Governor, when you were
  • 00:44:32.230 --> 00:44:34.210
  • Lieutenant Governor, you became governor by surprise.
  • 00:44:34.210 --> 00:44:38.150
  • - [Mike] Yeah.
  • 00:44:38.150 --> 00:44:39.090
  • - For two years?
  • 00:44:39.090 --> 00:44:40.180
  • - I'd been Lieutenant Governor three years.
  • 00:44:40.180 --> 00:44:41.290
  • - [Matt] Three years, the last year--
  • 00:44:41.290 --> 00:44:44.090
  • - And then last year in the office when the then
  • 00:44:44.090 --> 00:44:45.240
  • Governor was convicted of Whitewater related felonies,
  • 00:44:45.240 --> 00:44:48.000
  • and was forced to resign.
  • 00:44:48.000 --> 00:44:49.270
  • So yes, it was an unexpected trip down the hall for me.
  • 00:44:49.270 --> 00:44:52.170
  • - Okay, so you then were reelected twice.
  • 00:44:52.170 --> 00:44:56.120
  • - [Mike] Yes.
  • 00:44:56.120 --> 00:44:57.100
  • - So you spent how many years--
  • 00:44:57.100 --> 00:44:58.170
  • - [Mike] Almost 11.
  • 00:44:58.170 --> 00:44:59.120
  • - Almost 11 years, okay.
  • 00:44:59.120 --> 00:45:00.180
  • - [Mike] Just short of 11 years.
  • 00:45:00.180 --> 00:45:02.010
  • - So when you look back on that, what, what's the takeaway
  • 00:45:02.010 --> 00:45:05.250
  • when you think of that whole 11 years compressed
  • 00:45:05.250 --> 00:45:08.260
  • as Governor of the state of Arkansas?
  • 00:45:08.260 --> 00:45:11.030
  • What do you think about when you think of that?
  • 00:45:11.030 --> 00:45:12.150
  • - The most incredible privilege and joy of my life.
  • 00:45:12.150 --> 00:45:15.080
  • - [Matt] Really?
  • 00:45:15.080 --> 00:45:16.220
  • - You gotta understand that growing up as a kid,
  • 00:45:16.220 --> 00:45:18.170
  • and it's part of really this whole idea of
  • 00:45:18.170 --> 00:45:21.030
  • thinking about your life in the big picture totality.
  • 00:45:21.030 --> 00:45:24.170
  • When I was eight years old my dad said,
  • 00:45:24.170 --> 00:45:26.030
  • son, I'm going to take you down and hear the Governor
  • 00:45:26.030 --> 00:45:29.110
  • make a speech, he's dedicating a lake down here and you know
  • 00:45:29.110 --> 00:45:32.170
  • Governors don't come to our part of the state very often.
  • 00:45:32.170 --> 00:45:34.130
  • He said, son I'm gonna take you down to hear the Governor
  • 00:45:34.130 --> 00:45:36.030
  • make a talk because you may spend your whole life
  • 00:45:36.030 --> 00:45:38.090
  • and never see a Governor in person.
  • 00:45:38.090 --> 00:45:40.030
  • - [Lori] Wow. - [Matt] My goodness.
  • 00:45:40.030 --> 00:45:41.230
  • - Because it was inconceivable to my father,
  • 00:45:41.230 --> 00:45:43.000
  • who never finished high school,
  • 00:45:43.000 --> 00:45:44.100
  • that I would see a Governor in person,
  • 00:45:44.100 --> 00:45:46.120
  • much less become one.
  • 00:45:46.120 --> 00:45:47.260
  • It's why I love American, it's why I love this country,
  • 00:45:47.260 --> 00:45:49.140
  • it's why I love God, I mean I've lived the American Dream.
  • 00:45:49.140 --> 00:45:53.200
  • It's real for me.
  • 00:45:53.200 --> 00:45:54.180
  • - [Matt] Wow, beautiful.
  • 00:45:54.180 --> 00:45:56.020
  • - And so when I think about these moments--
  • 00:45:56.020 --> 00:45:57.200
  • (audience clapping)
  • 00:45:57.200 --> 00:45:59.080
  • I look back with an extraordinary sense of gratitude.
  • 00:45:59.080 --> 00:46:01.090
  • - Beautiful.
  • 00:46:01.090 --> 00:46:02.150
  • - Did you want Sarah to take her job?
  • 00:46:02.150 --> 00:46:05.030
  • - Well I did because I knew she would be good at it.
  • 00:46:05.030 --> 00:46:08.050
  • You know, I feel like that, instilled in her
  • 00:46:08.050 --> 00:46:11.280
  • and her mother even perhaps more so,
  • 00:46:11.280 --> 00:46:14.110
  • a sense of of who she is, she's confident in God
  • 00:46:14.110 --> 00:46:18.150
  • and who the Lord is in her life.
  • 00:46:18.150 --> 00:46:20.230
  • And people say, are you nervous for your daughter
  • 00:46:20.230 --> 00:46:23.100
  • when she goes out to the podium at the White House
  • 00:46:23.100 --> 00:46:25.110
  • and sees that hostile press corps?
  • 00:46:25.110 --> 00:46:28.030
  • My response is, I'm very nervous, for those press people.
  • 00:46:28.030 --> 00:46:31.220
  • (laughing)
  • 00:46:31.220 --> 00:46:34.000
  • - Which is kind of true, she's--
  • 00:46:36.080 --> 00:46:38.070
  • - [Mike] Tough kid. - She's a tough kid.
  • 00:46:38.070 --> 00:46:39.040
  • - Two older brothers may have her tough.
  • 00:46:40.100 --> 00:46:42.060
  • And you know this kind of goes back to,
  • 00:46:42.060 --> 00:46:44.020
  • we're talking about the things that we thought were horrible
  • 00:46:44.020 --> 00:46:46.170
  • turn out to be good.
  • 00:46:46.170 --> 00:46:48.030
  • Remember in Genesis chapter 50, Joseph had been sold off
  • 00:46:48.030 --> 00:46:51.120
  • into slavery by his brothers and left for dead
  • 00:46:51.120 --> 00:46:54.240
  • and it was the worst thing that could have happened
  • 00:46:54.240 --> 00:46:56.100
  • he got later falsely accused of crimes
  • 00:46:56.100 --> 00:46:58.130
  • and was in prison and had a horrible situation.
  • 00:46:58.130 --> 00:47:00.230
  • He's supposed to be the favorite guy
  • 00:47:00.230 --> 00:47:02.190
  • when all was said and done that whole horrible thing
  • 00:47:02.190 --> 00:47:06.130
  • that happened to him saved the nation of Israel
  • 00:47:06.130 --> 00:47:08.260
  • from famine and he said to his brothers
  • 00:47:08.260 --> 00:47:12.140
  • what you intended for harm God has used for good.
  • 00:47:12.140 --> 00:47:16.200
  • When my daughter, who's the youngest of the three,
  • 00:47:16.200 --> 00:47:19.260
  • and the only girl, had two mean older brothers,
  • 00:47:19.260 --> 00:47:24.050
  • they super glued her fingers together once.
  • 00:47:24.050 --> 00:47:26.110
  • (audience laughing)
  • 00:47:26.110 --> 00:47:27.180
  • That was a trip to the emergency room,
  • 00:47:27.180 --> 00:47:28.280
  • they gave her a big glass of mud
  • 00:47:28.280 --> 00:47:31.190
  • and told her it was a chocolate milkshake.
  • 00:47:31.190 --> 00:47:33.120
  • I mean, they were mean, like brothers tend to be.
  • 00:47:33.120 --> 00:47:35.280
  • (Lori laughing)
  • 00:47:35.280 --> 00:47:37.130
  • Made her tough and so when even she looks back on this,
  • 00:47:37.130 --> 00:47:41.020
  • she will say my brothers being mean.
  • 00:47:41.020 --> 00:47:44.110
  • - What you meant for evil.
  • 00:47:44.110 --> 00:47:46.200
  • - That's right, she does.
  • 00:47:46.200 --> 00:47:48.050
  • And it's part of that life lesson that we learned.
  • 00:47:48.050 --> 00:47:50.240
  • So rather than becoming bitter about,
  • 00:47:50.240 --> 00:47:52.270
  • well this wasn't fair and I try to say to people
  • 00:47:52.270 --> 00:47:56.070
  • in the book, life isn't fair.
  • 00:47:56.070 --> 00:47:59.000
  • If you think it is, you're going to be miserable.
  • 00:47:59.000 --> 00:48:01.200
  • Life's not fair.
  • 00:48:01.200 --> 00:48:03.030
  • There will be some really, really rough things
  • 00:48:03.030 --> 00:48:04.150
  • that will happen that aren't fair
  • 00:48:04.150 --> 00:48:06.170
  • that aren't pleasant, that aren't right
  • 00:48:06.170 --> 00:48:08.150
  • but you're not living for the right now,
  • 00:48:08.150 --> 00:48:10.140
  • you're living for what's ultimately going to be the end
  • 00:48:10.140 --> 00:48:13.280
  • and the conclusion and the next chapter of life
  • 00:48:13.280 --> 00:48:17.150
  • that we meet, when we come to God.
  • 00:48:17.150 --> 00:48:19.230
  • - You know what I love, though, is when you think about
  • 00:48:19.230 --> 00:48:22.290
  • the children, you know, I see my son sitting over here
  • 00:48:22.290 --> 00:48:26.170
  • and I think about Sarah and then I think about
  • 00:48:26.170 --> 00:48:29.290
  • you and Miss Janet when Sarah goes through something
  • 00:48:29.290 --> 00:48:32.180
  • and I just think, oh my gosh, that has to,
  • 00:48:32.180 --> 00:48:35.070
  • just want to kill somebody.
  • 00:48:35.070 --> 00:48:37.290
  • That you guys, you and Janet have showed her,
  • 00:48:39.050 --> 00:48:42.210
  • she got to watch it, she got to watch that faith
  • 00:48:42.210 --> 00:48:45.150
  • and that that tough spirit and that
  • 00:48:45.150 --> 00:48:48.260
  • tenacity of who she is in God.
  • 00:48:48.260 --> 00:48:51.200
  • - [Mike] Yes.
  • 00:48:51.200 --> 00:48:53.050
  • - First of all, that sees her through her daily life.
  • 00:48:53.050 --> 00:48:55.240
  • But you showed her and thank you for that.
  • 00:48:55.240 --> 00:48:58.020
  • I love parents that actually show their children
  • 00:48:58.020 --> 00:49:01.160
  • how to walk in faith, a lot of times I'll get a call
  • 00:49:01.160 --> 00:49:05.160
  • from a friend or something and they're just a mess
  • 00:49:05.160 --> 00:49:08.170
  • and I'll go, hold it, you've got little ones
  • 00:49:08.170 --> 00:49:10.240
  • sitting there watching you right now.
  • 00:49:10.240 --> 00:49:12.280
  • Show them how to walk through, show them how, tell 'em,
  • 00:49:12.280 --> 00:49:17.270
  • tell 'em what the Bible says about this.
  • 00:49:19.020 --> 00:49:20.190
  • People say, well what do you what do you think about that?
  • 00:49:20.190 --> 00:49:23.090
  • We all have to go back to the word of God,
  • 00:49:23.090 --> 00:49:26.000
  • what does the word of God say about it?
  • 00:49:26.000 --> 00:49:27.240
  • And that's what you guys have done in your family.
  • 00:49:27.240 --> 00:49:30.060
  • That's what you guys I'm sure have done in your family.
  • 00:49:30.060 --> 00:49:32.210
  • That's what we all need to do
  • 00:49:32.210 --> 00:49:34.010
  • is to show our children how to do life
  • 00:49:34.010 --> 00:49:37.190
  • as as Christians and believers in
  • 00:49:37.190 --> 00:49:40.080
  • who God says he is right here.
  • 00:49:40.080 --> 00:49:42.200
  • (audience clapping)
  • 00:49:42.200 --> 00:49:45.170
  • - Let me ask a question, I'm gonna say that
  • 00:49:45.170 --> 00:49:49.080
  • everything that you said got shown to us.
  • 00:49:51.230 --> 00:49:54.270
  • - Yes, it did, by both of our parents.
  • 00:49:54.270 --> 00:49:58.140
  • - By her mom and dad were pastors for 40 years
  • 00:49:58.140 --> 00:50:01.230
  • and my parents were founders of this television network
  • 00:50:01.230 --> 00:50:06.080
  • and we're sitting here today because of their toughness
  • 00:50:06.080 --> 00:50:10.050
  • and the fact that they understood
  • 00:50:10.050 --> 00:50:12.280
  • what we're talking about today in the form of legacy
  • 00:50:15.020 --> 00:50:18.030
  • and when I think back, as we were beginning this program
  • 00:50:18.030 --> 00:50:23.020
  • I showed the audience today what this studio looked like
  • 00:50:26.100 --> 00:50:30.140
  • back in the 1980s and this studio has been
  • 00:50:30.140 --> 00:50:35.100
  • renovated completely and it looks different today
  • 00:50:35.100 --> 00:50:39.050
  • but interestingly enough, are we are still doing
  • 00:50:39.050 --> 00:50:42.280
  • the same thing, what my parents modeled for us
  • 00:50:42.280 --> 00:50:46.150
  • the mental toughness of my parents of starting from scratch,
  • 00:50:46.150 --> 00:50:51.150
  • I mean, there was a day in 1973, my parents,
  • 00:50:52.190 --> 00:50:56.080
  • we didn't have a switcher and a control room.
  • 00:50:57.190 --> 00:51:00.260
  • We had one camera, patched into a microwave
  • 00:51:00.260 --> 00:51:05.210
  • that was directly fed to a transmitter
  • 00:51:05.210 --> 00:51:08.110
  • and the only way to, I mean I can't exactly show you
  • 00:51:08.110 --> 00:51:13.110
  • what I mean by this, but that the only way we could
  • 00:51:14.240 --> 00:51:16.250
  • go to black is by putting a card in front of the camera.
  • 00:51:16.250 --> 00:51:21.250
  • (laughing)
  • 00:51:22.180 --> 00:51:23.260
  • And so if we wanted to move from this set,
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  • over to the other set where somebody was going to sing,
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  • we had to just put card in front of the camera,
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  • pan it over and then drop the card you know?
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  • - Hopefully you were on them.
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  • - Yeah and so we come from a day when my mom and dad
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  • might have looked into the camera in 1973 and said,
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  • hi, you don't know who we are, I'm Paul Crouch,
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  • and I'm Jan Crouch and our vision
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  • is to have 24 hour a day Christian TV
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  • but guess what we need your help.
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  • And and so my parents basically, started the term,
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  • it's called crowdfunding now but back in the day,
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  • my parents pioneered that thought,
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  • that could you look into a camera
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  • and some of the people in this audience have been
  • 00:52:08.060 --> 00:52:10.100
  • watching TBN for many years and even back into the 70s
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  • and all of that and at some point someone had to respond.
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  • Then when you take, you know, a whole life lived,
  • 00:52:21.280 --> 00:52:26.110
  • my dad was President and Chairman of TBN for 40 years
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  • and four months and I asked him one day,
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  • Dad what does it feel like,
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  • you're now in your late 70s,
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  • you started with just a vision to have Christian TV,
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  • first of all, just in Los Angeles, and then United States
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  • and then the world and yes TBN's connected to satellites
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  • all over the world,
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  • what does that feel like?
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  • Because certainly you could say,
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  • you've kind of completed what you feel,
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  • you're supposed to do and and he thought for just
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  • kind of a half a second any kind of put his fist up,
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  • and he goes, it feels like challenge.
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  • And I went, after all these years,
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  • you're in the late 70s now
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  • and that word still, challenge, you know?
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  • - Kind of mad. (laughing)
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  • - And so what he showed us was how tough,
  • 00:53:21.080 --> 00:53:26.080
  • the FCC and TBN were in a lawsuit for nine years in the,
  • 00:53:27.200 --> 00:53:31.080
  • you know, we had to throw a court case out into
  • 00:53:33.270 --> 00:53:37.110
  • the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals and TBN finally won
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  • and there were battles and battles and battles and battles
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  • and when people ask Lori and I now, are you intimidated
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  • or are you scared or, I just go, if you knew how well
  • 00:53:50.070 --> 00:53:55.070
  • my parents prepared us, we were with my mom and dad,
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  • both as they were slipping from this life to the next,
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  • we spent virtually every day with my mom and dad
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  • of their lives in the last several years of their lives
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  • and they were pouring into us and they prepared as well.
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  • I understand what legacy is,
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  • I understand it because I saw modeled.
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  • For someone that didn't see it modeled,
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  • that don't have a story like we do,
  • 00:54:20.080 --> 00:54:23.000
  • how did you get that backbone built in somebody
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  • that's having to start from scratch in their world?
  • 00:54:28.200 --> 00:54:31.000
  • - If you didn't have an earthly father or mother that
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  • instill that in you, the good news is,
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  • there is a heavenly father.
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  • - [Matt] Come on now.
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  • - And he will not allow his children to miss
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  • what it means to be followers of his
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  • and to be prepared for that day.
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  • And that's why there is no excuse, we can say,
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  • well, if I only had a better you know set of parents
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  • but actually got a great father
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  • and he's willing to be our father
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  • and if a person has never been able to experience
  • 00:55:01.270 --> 00:55:05.060
  • a great family life, they can experience
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  • a great relationship with their Creator
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  • who loves them, cares for them and will lead them
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  • right to the very door so that when they do face him,
  • 00:55:12.240 --> 00:55:17.050
  • he'll be able to say to them,
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  • well done, good and faithful servant.
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  • - [Matt] Beautiful.
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  • - Tell us the story of the fork
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  • and then want to pray for the people?
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  • - Okay.
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  • There was a pastor went to see a lady,
  • 00:55:26.110 --> 00:55:27.290
  • she was terminally ill and she was planning her funeral.
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  • She said, Pastor here's the service, the way I want it
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  • so just know this is the way I'd like it,
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  • but there's one other request.
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  • She said when I'm in my casket laying there,
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  • I don't want a thing of flowers in my hands,
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  • I want you to put a fork in my hand
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  • and I want to be holding a fork
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  • and he thought that was the most unusual request
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  • he'd ever heard, and she says,
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  • I know you probably think that's weird, but here's why.
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  • You know when we have these church dinners
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  • and we have all these potluck meals and everybody's finished
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  • and the ladies will come and they'll grab our plates
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  • and take them to get washed,
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  • but they'll lean over and they'll say this,
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  • keep your fork.
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  • You know what that means?
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  • Keep your fork because we hadn't had dessert yet.
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  • The best is yet to come and,
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  • it's hard to even say it.
  • 00:56:14.210 --> 00:56:16.200
  • The lady said, Pastor, when you tell the story
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  • and they wonder why that fork is there,
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  • you tell them, this isn't the end, keep your fork.
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  • The best is yet to come. God's dessert is on the other side.
  • 00:56:25.200 --> 00:56:29.260
  • - [Matt] Wow, beautiful, pray for the folks.
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  • (audience clapping)
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  • - Lord thank you.
  • 00:56:32.220 --> 00:56:34.040
  • Thank you, God we live a life that is not over
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  • until you say it is and when it is over,
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  • we have the opportunity to hear you say those beautiful
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  • six words, well done, good and faithful servant.
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  • I pray that we would live our lives so that
  • 00:56:45.240 --> 00:56:48.060
  • that's the first thing we hear in eternity
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  • and then it doesn't matter what anything else was ever said
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  • or done about us if we hear that.
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  • Let that be the words that every person listening to me now
  • 00:56:56.170 --> 00:57:00.270
  • will hear, when they see you face to face.
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  • In Jesus name, amen.
  • 00:57:04.070 --> 00:57:06.090
  • - Wow, a beautiful one hour with Mike Huckabee on legacy.
  • 00:57:06.090 --> 00:57:10.250
  • Legacy, Rare, Medium or Done Well,
  • 00:57:10.250 --> 00:57:13.230
  • make the most of your life.
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  • - Keep your fork. - Get Mike's book.
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  • Keep your fork.
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  • We'll see you next time, thanks audience, buh-bye.
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  • (upbeat music)
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