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Praise | Max Lucado & T. D. Jakes | 3/4/19

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March 4, 2019
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Max Lucado hosts Bishop T. D. Jakes

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Praise | Max Lucado & T. D. Jakes | 3/4/19

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  • [MUSIC]
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  • - ANNOUNCER: TONIGHT ON PRAISE FROM DALLAS,
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  • SENIOR PASTOR OF THE POTTER'S HOUSE AND
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  • BEST-SELLING AUTHOR BISHOP TD JAKES.
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  • [MUSIC AND APPLAUSE]
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  • - AND NOW MAX LUCADO.
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  • - MAX LUCADO: WELL, HELLO EVERYBODY.
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  • I WOULD IMAGINE THAT YOU HAVE A LIST OF THOSE
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  • PEOPLE THAT YOU WOULD LOVE TO MEET, THAT YOU'D
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  • LOVE WITH WHOM TO HAVE A CUP OF COFFEE OR A GOOD MEAL.
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  • WELL, THIS IS MY HONOR TO SPEND A FEW MINUTES WITH
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  • ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT HAS BEEN ON MY LIST FOR YEARS.
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  • FOR YEARS.
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  • FASCINATING MAN, A MAN OF DEEP FAITH, A MAN OF
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  • GREAT TALENT, A MAN OF LONG OBEDIENCE IN THE
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  • SAME DIRECTION, BISHOP TD JAKES.
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  • WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT A TOPIC THAT IS ON HIS
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  • HEART AND CERTAINLY ON OURS AS WELL.
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  • AND IT IS THE WHOLE IDEA OF NOT BEING PRESSED INTO
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  • THE EXPECTATIONS, NOT CONFORMING INTO THE WORLD
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  • AROUND US.
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  • IT WAS THE APOSTLE PAUL WHO SAID DO NOT LET THE
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  • PRESSURES OF THE WORLD SQUEEZE YOU INTO
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  • THEIR MOLD.
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  • WE'RE GOING TO TACKLE THAT TOPIC WITH THE
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  • PERSON WHO MODELS SOME SOLUTIONS AND BRINGS
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  • SOME ANSWERS.
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  • TURN YOUR ATTENTION NOW TO THIS VIDEO AND TAKE
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  • NOTE OF THE BLESSING THAT WE HAVE TO SPEND THESE
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  • MOMENTS WITH BISHOP TD JAKES.
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  • - TD JAKES: GOD WANTS TO SHIFT YOU AND HUMBLE YOU.
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  • HE'LL LET YOU HEAR ABOUT SOMEBODY ELSE THAT
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  • HE'S BLESSING.
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  • - ONE OF THE MOST INFLUENTIAL VOICES IN THE
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  • AMERICA, BISHOP TD JAKES IS A VISIONARY LEADER AND
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  • SOUGHT AFTER SPEAKER REACHING MILLIONS OF
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  • PEOPLE THROUGH HIS DYNAMIC MINISTRY EVERY WEEK.
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  • RECOGNIZED AS AMERICA'S BEST PREACHER BY TIME
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  • MAGAZINE SEEN, JAKES IS THE FOUNDER AND SENIOR
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  • PASTOR OF THE POTTER'S HOUSE IN DALLAS, TEXAS.
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  • THROUGH FILM MAKING, RADIO, TELEVISION
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  • BROADCAST, AND CONFERENCES INCLUDING HIS
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  • INTERNATIONALLY ACCLAIMED FAITH AND FAMILY EVENT
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  • MEGA FEST BISHOP JAKES IS CONNECTING COMMUNITIES
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  • AROUND THE WORLD.
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  • AN ESTABLISHED AUTHOR, SOME OF JAKES NEW YORK
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  • TIMES BEST SELLERS INCLUDE INSTINCT, THE
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  • POWER TO UNLEASH YOUR INBORN DRIVE, AND DESTINY,
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  • STEP INTO YOUR PURPOSE.
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  • - TD JAKES: I WOULD GET UP BUT SOMEBODY BROKE
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  • MY HEART.
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  • I WOULD GET UP.
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  • DO YOU THINK THAT GOD IS FOOLISH ENOUGH TO LEAVE
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  • YOUR DESTINY IN THE HANDS OF SOMEBODY OUTSIDE OF
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  • YOUR HOUSE?
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  • - HIS BOOK CRUSHING, GOD TURNS PRESSURE INTO
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  • POWER, ENCOURAGES PEOPLE TO NAVIGATE THROUGH
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  • THE EVERYDAY PRESSURES OF SOCIETY HAVING HOPE IN
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  • THE POWER OF GOD.
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  • WITH FOUR DECADES OF MINISTRY UNDER HIS BELT,
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  • JAKES CONTINUES TO BE A LEADING VOICE OF
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  • INSPIRATION TO THE WORLD.
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  • BISHOP TD JAKES.
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  • [APPLAUSE]
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  • - TD JAKES: THANK YOU.
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  • THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING.
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  • - YES.
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  • - I FEEL LIKE MORE THAN A GROUPIE THAN A GUEST.
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  • I'VE ADMIRED YOU OVER THE MAJOR PARTS OF MY LIFE
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  • AND READ SO MANY YOUR BOOKS SO I'M ANXIOUS TO
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  • HAVE THIS OPPORTUNITY.
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  • I MIGHT PULL OUT MY POM-POMS.
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  • - OH, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON PULLING THIS
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  • OFF FOR A COUPLE YEARS, HAVEN'T WE?
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  • - THAT'S ABSOLUTELY TRUE.
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  • - WE GOT DERAILED A TIME OR TWO BUT HERE WE ARE.
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  • - THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY.
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  • - AND IT IS TRULY AN HONOR FOR ME.
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  • - THANK YOU.
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  • - IT TRULY IS.
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  • I KNOW THERE ARE SEVERAL MILLION PEOPLE WHO WOULD
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  • LOVE TO HAVE THIS CHAIR RATE NOW SO I'M GOING TO
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  • DO MY BEST TO REPRESENT THEM AND WE'RE JUST GOING
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  • TO HAVE A GREAT CONVERSATION.
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  • - WE'RE GOING TO HAVE FUN.
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  • - WE SURE ARE.
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  • WE SURE ARE.
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  • I JUST WISH I COULD BE AT YOUR DINNER TABLE.
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  • I HEAR YOU'RE A GREAT COOK.
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  • - I CAN THROW DOWN A LITTLE BIT.
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  • [LAUGHTER]
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  • I DON'T DO IT OFTEN BECAUSE I'M NOT A
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  • HEALTHY COOK.
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  • I'M A HOLIDAY COOK.
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  • - THAT'S OKAY. OKAY.
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  • WHAT WOULD WE BE EATING IF WE WERE SITTING AT
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  • YOUR TABLE?
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  • - BANANA PUDDINGS FROM SCRATCH.
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  • I DO SOUL FOOD, OLD-FASHIONED
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  • GRANDMA-STYLE COOKING.
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  • A LOT OF DESERTS.
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  • PINEAPPLE UPSIDE DOWN CAKES.
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  • RED VELVET CAKES.
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  • ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.
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  • - LOOK AT YOU.
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  • I'M GETTING HUNGRY.
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  • SOMEBODY SEND OUT FOR SOME FOOD.
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  • HURRY!
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  • GET IT IN HERE.
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  • - THE BAD STUFF.
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  • ALL THE BAD STUFF.
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  • - YOU DON'T USE A COOKBOOK?
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  • - I DO SOMETIMES.
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  • SOMETIMES.
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  • NOT FOR MY MOTHER'S RECIPES WHICH WERE HER
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  • MOTHER'S RECIPES .
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  • I HAVE SOME GRANDMA LEFT IN ME, SO FROM TIME TO
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  • TIME I DO.
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  • IF IT'S SOMETHING NEW OR DIFFERENT, THEN I WILL,
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  • BUT I DON'T FOLLOW THE RECIPE LONG.
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  • I KIND OF ADD MY OWN LITTLE SPIN TO IT.
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  • - DO YOU EVER COOK JUST FOR YOURSELF OR DO YOU
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  • LIKE TO COOK FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE?
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  • - I LIKE TO COOK FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE.
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  • - IS THAT RIGHT?
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  • - I LIKE TO COOK FOR A LOT OF HUNGRY PEOPLE.
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  • - HUNGRY PEOPLE.
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  • - I LIKE TO COOK FOR PEOPLE WHO MAKE NOISES
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  • WHEN THEY EAT.
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  • [LAUGHTER]
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  • - SO BELCHING IS PERMITTED?
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  • - YEAH, BELCHING AND GROANING AND MOANING AND
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  • TELLING ME HOW GOOD IT IS WILL MAKE ME COOK ALL
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  • NIGHT LONG.
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  • - WHAT IF I NEED TO LOOSEN A BELT NOTCH?
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  • - OH, I'D LOVE YOU.
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  • I'D JUST LOVE YOU THEN.
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  • - THAT'S OKAY.
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  • - ABSOLUTELY.
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  • - WELL, THAT'S GREAT.
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  • OH, MY GOODNESS.
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  • YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO TALK IN JUST A MOMENT,
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  • WE'RE GOING TO HEAD IN THIS DIRECTION OF THIS
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  • AMAZING BOOK.
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  • I READ IT IN ONE SITTING.
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  • IT'S NOT OUT YET BUT I GOT AN ADVANCED READER
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  • COPY, AND I CAN'T WAIT, AND I THINK I HAVE MORE
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  • PAGES DOG EARED THAN NOT DOG EARED, SO THE
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  • CHALLENGE IS GOING TO BE LIMITING, PICKING THE
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  • PARTS I DO WANT TO TALK ABOUT.
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  • BUT COULD WE TALK ABOUT YOU?
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  • - SURE.
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  • - WHAT MAKES YOU YOU, KIND OF WHERE YOU CAME FROM,
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  • THE INFLUENCES IN YOUR LIFE.
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  • I KNOW MOST PEOPLE KNOW BUT FOR THOSE WHO DON'T
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  • YOU GREW UP IN WEST VIRGINIA.
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  • - CHARLESTON.
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  • - CHARLESTON, WEST VIRGINIA.
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  • CAN YOU TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOUR HOME LIFE?
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  • - A HILL BILLY TURNED COWBOY.
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  • [LAUGHTER]
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  • I GREW UP -- MY SISTER WHO IS HERE IN THE AUDIENCE
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  • TONIGHT AND I HAVE ONE SISTER, ONE BROTHER.
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  • I WAS THE YOUNGEST ONE IN MY FAMILY, A FAMILY
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  • OF FIVE.
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  • MY PARENTS MIGRATED -- MY PARENTS MIGRATED TO WEST
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  • VIRGINIA FROM MISSISSIPPI.
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  • MY FATHER WAS FROM MISSISSIPPI.
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  • MY MOTHER WAS FROM ALABAMA.
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  • MY MOTHER WAS AN EDUCATOR.
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  • MY FATHER WAS AN ENTREPRENEUR WHO STARTED
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  • A JANITORIAL SERVICE AND WE GREW UP IN THE 60'S IN
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  • THE TURBULENCE, VERY MEAGER, VERY
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  • MEAGER BEGINNINGS.
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  • IN RETROSPECT, I REALIZE THEY WERE MEAGER.
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  • AT THE TIME, I DIDN'T KNOW WE WERE POOR.
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  • THEY HID IT FROM US BECAUSE WE WERE SO FILLED
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  • WITH SO MANY OTHER THINGS MORE IMPORTANT LIKE LOVE
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  • AND LOYALTY AND A SENSE OF CONNECTIVITY AND A
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  • FAMILY COHESIVENESS THAT AT THIS AGE MY BROTHER
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  • AND SISTER AND I STILL LIVE IN THE SAME CITY.
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  • - DO YOU REALLY?
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  • - WE'RE STILL TOGETHER.
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  • - STILL CONNECTED.
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  • - YEAH. WE'RE STILL TOGETHER.
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  • MY MOTHER WHEN SHE WAS DYING TOLD US TO STAY
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  • TOGETHER ALL THE WAY TO THE END, AND WE HAVE
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  • DONE THAT.
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  • - WOW.
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  • - YEAH.
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  • - YOUR FATHER PASSED WHEN YOU WERE YOUNG.
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  • - YES.
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  • - CAN YOU TELL ABOUT HOW THAT HAPPENED?
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  • WHAT HAPPENED AND HOW THAT IMPACTED YOU.
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  • - I THINK THAT PROBABLY HAD MORE TO SHAPE MY
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  • MINISTRY, HAD TO DO WITH SHAPING MY MINISTRY THAN
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  • ANYTHING ELSE.
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  • HE GOT SICK WHEN I WAS TEN.
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  • HE WAS A VERY BIG ROBUST SORT OF A MAN, VERY HARD
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  • WORKING, STRONG WORK ETHIC SORT OF
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  • AN INDIVIDUAL.
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  • MY SUPER HERO OF SORTS.
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  • HE GOT SICK.
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  • HIS BLOOD PRESSURE WENT UP TO 290 OVER 280, SHUT
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  • DOWN HIS KIDNEYS, HE HAD RENAL FAILURE.
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  • THEY WERE IN THE EARLY STAGES OF DIALYSIS.
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  • WE WERE ONE OF THE FIRST PEOPLE IN OUR AREA TO
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  • START HAVING DIALYSIS, INITIALLY DRIVING BACK
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  • AND FORTH TO CLEVELAND, OHIO, SO I GREW UP IN
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  • TRAUMA, IN CRISIS, AND MY MOTHER WAS DRIVING MY
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  • FATHER BACK AND FORTH TO CLEVELAND CLINIC
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  • TWICE A WEEK.
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  • - TWICE A WEEK.
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  • - AND THEN WE GOT OUR OWN KIDNEY MACHINE, AND
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  • TO BE HONEST WITH YOU I COULD RUN A KIDNEY
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  • MACHINE AND COULDN'T RIDE A BICYCLE.
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  • - WELL, MY GOODNESS.
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  • YOU WERE TEN YEARS OLD WHEN HE WAS SICK?
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  • - YES.
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  • SO MY WHOLE FOCUS WAS ABOUT TAKING CARE OF HIM,
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  • SO HE LIVED UNTIL I WAS 16 YEARS OLD, AND THEN HE
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  • PASSED AWAY, AND I THINK AS TRAGIC AS IT WAS AND
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  • IT WAS TRAGIC FOR ME, IT WAS TRAUMATIC BECAUSE HE
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  • DIED IN THE CONFUSION OF MY ADOLESCENCE, IN THE
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  • TURMOIL OF WHO AM I --
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  • - IT'S HARD ENOUGH TO BE A 16 YEAR OLD.
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  • - ABSOLUTELY.
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  • - IF EVERYTHING IS WONDERFUL.
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  • - YES.
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  • - BUT TO HAVE THAT HAPPEN.
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  • - WHEN YOU HAVE THAT SICKNESS IN THE HOME, IT
  • 00:08:51.110 --> 00:08:55.070
  • BECOMES THE CENTERPIECE OF THE FAMILY, AND
  • 00:08:55.090 --> 00:08:58.190
  • EVERYTHING ELSE HAS TO BE BUILT AROUND THAT, AND
  • 00:08:58.210 --> 00:09:01.230
  • YOU HAVE TO TAKE A SUBORDINATE ROLE BECAUSE
  • 00:09:01.250 --> 00:09:04.100
  • OF THE CRISIS.
  • 00:09:04.120 --> 00:09:05.230
  • SO BEING RAISED IN CRISIS SHAPED MY PERCEPTION OF
  • 00:09:05.250 --> 00:09:09.150
  • WHAT WAS IMPORTANT, AND IN SOME WAY OR ANOTHER
  • 00:09:09.170 --> 00:09:13.150
  • I'VE ALWAYS BEEN TAKING CARE OF HURTING PEOPLE
  • 00:09:13.170 --> 00:09:16.040
  • ALL MY LIFE, AND SO IT IS MY DEFAULT SETTING TO GO
  • 00:09:16.060 --> 00:09:18.210
  • INTO THAT ZONE WHETHER IT IS SPIRITUAL OR
  • 00:09:18.230 --> 00:09:22.010
  • PHYSICAL PAIN.
  • 00:09:22.030 --> 00:09:23.090
  • ALL MY LIFE HAS BEEN IN SOME WAY A CARETAKER, SO
  • 00:09:23.110 --> 00:09:25.260
  • ENDING UP A SHEPHERD OF A CHURCH KIND OF MAKES
  • 00:09:25.280 --> 00:09:29.020
  • SENSE FOR ME, BUT IT WAS THE ABSENCE OF MY FATHER
  • 00:09:29.040 --> 00:09:33.110
  • AND THE ACHING VOID AND THE DEEP ABYSS OF MY
  • 00:09:33.130 --> 00:09:36.140
  • CONFUSION AND ALIENATION THAT CREATED A THIRST TO
  • 00:09:36.160 --> 00:09:43.200
  • FIND SOMETHING TO FILL THAT CHASM THAT HE LEFT,
  • 00:09:43.220 --> 00:09:48.240
  • AND I THINK THAT CAUSED ME TO HAVE A RAVENOUS
  • 00:09:48.260 --> 00:09:51.100
  • APPROACH TO GOD.
  • 00:09:51.120 --> 00:09:53.000
  • - HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN THAT IT DIDN'T CAUSE YOU
  • 00:09:53.020 --> 00:09:57.000
  • TO HAVE A RAVENOUS DESIRE FOR DRUGS OR FOR
  • 00:09:57.020 --> 00:10:00.130
  • ANGER OR BITERNESS --
  • 00:10:00.150 --> 00:10:03.110
  • - I PASSED BY ALL OF THAT.
  • 00:10:03.130 --> 00:10:06.010
  • - OKAY.
  • 00:10:06.030 --> 00:10:07.030
  • - ON THE WAY TO JESUS.
  • 00:10:07.050 --> 00:10:08.090
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:10:08.110 --> 00:10:11.040
  • - YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.
  • 00:10:11.060 --> 00:10:14.080
  • - YOU WAVED.
  • 00:10:14.100 --> 00:10:15.200
  • - YEAH, I PASSED BY ALL OF THAT ON THE WAY TO JESUS.
  • 00:10:15.220 --> 00:10:19.260
  • THE THING WAS THERE WAS A CALL ON MY LIFE WHEN I
  • 00:10:19.280 --> 00:10:26.090
  • PASSED BY THOSE THINGS THAT WAS DISRUPTIVE AND
  • 00:10:26.110 --> 00:10:30.210
  • DISTURBING AND UNRELENTING, AND I KNEW
  • 00:10:30.230 --> 00:10:36.050
  • THAT I WAS HERE FOR A REASON.
  • 00:10:36.070 --> 00:10:38.090
  • I SAW GLIMPSES OF MY FUTURE EVEN BEFORE HE DIED.
  • 00:10:38.110 --> 00:10:41.000
  • AS A KID GOING TO HEAR MY MOTHER SPEAK, I WOULD
  • 00:10:41.020 --> 00:10:43.220
  • TELL HER RIGHT NOW I'M GOING TO HEAR YOU SPEAK,
  • 00:10:43.240 --> 00:10:46.010
  • AND THEY CALL ME MISS JAKES' SON.
  • 00:10:46.030 --> 00:10:48.100
  • THE TIME WILL COME YOU'LL COME TO HEAR ME SPEAK AND
  • 00:10:48.120 --> 00:10:50.280
  • THEY'LL CALL YOU TOM JAKES' MOTHER, BUT I
  • 00:10:51.000 --> 00:10:53.120
  • DIDN'T KNOW I WOULD BE A PREACHER.
  • 00:10:53.140 --> 00:10:54.290
  • I JUST KNEW -- I SAW GLIMPSES OF MYSELF.
  • 00:10:55.010 --> 00:10:57.170
  • - YOU COULD SEE THAT.
  • 00:10:57.190 --> 00:10:58.270
  • - YES, IN FRONT OF A CROWD AND TALKING TO PEOPLE.
  • 00:10:58.290 --> 00:11:01.090
  • I'VE ALWAYS BEEN FASCINATED BY PEOPLE, AND
  • 00:11:01.110 --> 00:11:03.200
  • I STARTED OUT IN CHURCH ON THE PIANO FOR THE CHOIR.
  • 00:11:03.220 --> 00:11:07.240
  • - DID YOU REALLY?
  • 00:11:07.260 --> 00:11:09.010
  • - YEAH, GOD TRICKED ME.
  • 00:11:09.030 --> 00:11:10.050
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:11:10.070 --> 00:11:11.190
  • I THOUGHT I WAS GOING TO BE A GOSPEL ARTIST, BUT
  • 00:11:11.210 --> 00:11:13.080
  • AS I GREW INTO THE MUSIC REALM, I NOTICED THAT
  • 00:11:13.100 --> 00:11:16.270
  • PEOPLE GOT MORE BLESSED OVER MY INTRODUCTION THAN
  • 00:11:16.290 --> 00:11:19.000
  • THEY DID MY SONGS.
  • 00:11:19.020 --> 00:11:21.100
  • AND I THOUGHT MAYBE I NEED TO SCOOT OVER A
  • 00:11:21.120 --> 00:11:23.290
  • LITTLE BIT THIS WAY, YOU KNOW.
  • 00:11:24.010 --> 00:11:25.250
  • AND YOU KNOW, DESTINY IS SOMETHING THAT WE
  • 00:11:25.270 --> 00:11:30.180
  • GROPE AFTER.
  • 00:11:30.200 --> 00:11:33.000
  • PROVIDENCE AND PURPOSE IS SOMETHING THAT WE SEE
  • 00:11:33.020 --> 00:11:37.230
  • THROUGH A VERY DARK GLASS, AND SOME OF THE
  • 00:11:37.250 --> 00:11:41.250
  • MOST MOMENTOUS MOMENTS IN MY LIFE I STUMBLED INTO
  • 00:11:41.270 --> 00:11:45.170
  • GROPING TO UNDERSTAND WHY, WHY AM I HERE AND
  • 00:11:45.190 --> 00:11:50.230
  • WHO AM I REALLY.
  • 00:11:50.250 --> 00:11:53.160
  • AND THOSE QUESTIONS TO ME ARE MORE IMPORTANT
  • 00:11:53.180 --> 00:11:58.180
  • THAN ANSWERS.
  • 00:11:58.200 --> 00:12:01.130
  • WHETHER I COME TO A TEXT, I NEVER COME TO A TEXT
  • 00:12:01.150 --> 00:12:04.160
  • WITH WHAT I KNOW.
  • 00:12:04.180 --> 00:12:06.160
  • I THINK THAT THE SMARTEST PREACHER IS ONE WHO COMES
  • 00:12:06.180 --> 00:12:09.130
  • TO THE TEXT AS A FOOL.
  • 00:12:09.150 --> 00:12:13.120
  • AND WHAT COMES OUT OF THAT FOOL HEARTY HUMILITY
  • 00:12:13.140 --> 00:12:19.190
  • IS REVELATION KNOWLEDGE.
  • 00:12:19.210 --> 00:12:21.070
  • IF YOU COME TO THE TEXT TOO SMART YOU HAVE A
  • 00:12:21.090 --> 00:12:23.110
  • PRECONCEIVED IDEA OF WHAT IT SAYS, AND YOU CAN'T
  • 00:12:23.130 --> 00:12:26.120
  • HEAR REVELATION BECAUSE YOU HEAR TOO MUCH INFORMATION.
  • 00:12:26.140 --> 00:12:29.270
  • - THAT'S GOOD.
  • 00:12:29.290 --> 00:12:31.060
  • - YEAH. YEAH.
  • 00:12:31.080 --> 00:12:32.150
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:12:32.170 --> 00:12:34.050
  • - YOU FIGURE YOU GOT IT ALL FIGURED OUT.
  • 00:12:34.070 --> 00:12:35.140
  • - ABSOLUTELY. ABSOLUTELY. ABSOLUTELY.
  • 00:12:35.160 --> 00:12:37.200
  • AND I STARTED CARRYING MY BIBLE WHEN I WAS IN HIGH
  • 00:12:37.220 --> 00:12:41.210
  • SCHOOL, THE LATTER YEARS OF HIGH SCHOOL, AND THEY
  • 00:12:41.230 --> 00:12:44.010
  • STARTED CALLING ME A BOY PREACHER.
  • 00:12:44.030 --> 00:12:45.240
  • - DID THEY?
  • 00:12:45.260 --> 00:12:47.050
  • - AND I WAS CARRYING MY BIBLE TRYING TO FIND -- AT
  • 00:12:47.070 --> 00:12:51.060
  • MOMENTS I WAS TRYING TO FIND GOD, AND TO BE
  • 00:12:51.080 --> 00:12:55.150
  • HONEST IN MOMENTS I WAS TRYING TO FIND MY FATHER.
  • 00:12:55.170 --> 00:12:58.120
  • AND SUDDENLY I REALIZE THAT THEY WERE THE SAME.
  • 00:12:58.140 --> 00:13:03.020
  • YEAH, THAT HE WAS NOT THIS SUPREME BEING THAT
  • 00:13:03.040 --> 00:13:06.230
  • DIDN'T HAVE THE CAPACITY TO BE INTIMATE, THAT HE
  • 00:13:06.250 --> 00:13:10.070
  • COULD BE MY FATHER, THAT I COULD CLIMB UP INTO HIS
  • 00:13:10.090 --> 00:13:13.180
  • ARMS, AND THAT I COULD TELL HIM MY DEEPEST
  • 00:13:13.200 --> 00:13:15.270
  • DARKEST SECRETS, AND THAT I COULD TRUST HIM, AND SO
  • 00:13:15.290 --> 00:13:18.260
  • RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM NURTURED ME MORE THAN
  • 00:13:18.280 --> 00:13:23.010
  • RELIGION, SO THERE HAS ALWAYS BEEN SOME FRICTION
  • 00:13:23.030 --> 00:13:27.010
  • BETWEEN RELIGION AND RELATIONSHIP, AND THOUGH
  • 00:13:27.030 --> 00:13:31.230
  • I GREW UP IN THE CHURCH IN A LITTLE BAPTIST
  • 00:13:31.250 --> 00:13:34.150
  • CHURCH IN WEST VIRGINIA, AND THEN LATER IN A
  • 00:13:34.170 --> 00:13:38.030
  • PENTECOSTAL CHURCH IN MY TEENS RELIGION NEVER
  • 00:13:38.050 --> 00:13:42.120
  • COULD HIDE HIS FACE FROM ME TO THE DEGREE THAT I
  • 00:13:42.140 --> 00:13:48.030
  • DIDN'T SEE RELATIONSHIP IS FAR MORE FULFILLING
  • 00:13:48.050 --> 00:13:50.110
  • AND SATISFYING.
  • 00:13:50.130 --> 00:13:51.290
  • - YEAH.
  • 00:13:52.010 --> 00:13:53.060
  • DOES IT SURPRISE YOU THAT YOU BECAME A PASTOR?
  • 00:13:53.080 --> 00:13:55.260
  • - OH, YES.
  • 00:13:55.280 --> 00:13:57.140
  • [LAUGHTER] OH, YES, FOR REASONS I WON'T SAY ON TV.
  • 00:13:57.160 --> 00:14:00.220
  • [LAUGHTER] YOU SHOULD TALKING ABOUT LEAST
  • 00:14:00.240 --> 00:14:04.170
  • LIKELY TO BE IN THIS SITUATION.
  • 00:14:04.190 --> 00:14:06.110
  • I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I WAS A TERROR AS A LITTLE KID.
  • 00:14:06.130 --> 00:14:09.120
  • - IF WE COULD SOMEHOW GO BACK TO THE TEN YEAR OLD
  • 00:14:09.140 --> 00:14:14.040
  • VERSION OF YOU -- NO.
  • 00:14:14.060 --> 00:14:16.070
  • - SCARY. SCARY.
  • 00:14:16.090 --> 00:14:17.150
  • BUT INQUISITIVE.
  • 00:14:17.170 --> 00:14:20.000
  • EVERYTHING, I BELIEVE THAT EVERYTHING WE EVER
  • 00:14:20.020 --> 00:14:23.110
  • BECOME WE ALREADY WERE IN SEED FORM.
  • 00:14:23.130 --> 00:14:26.210
  • - I WOULD.
  • 00:14:26.230 --> 00:14:28.050
  • - AND ACORNS DON'T LOOK LIKE OAK TREES BUT THEY'RE
  • 00:14:28.070 --> 00:14:29.190
  • IN THERE.
  • 00:14:29.210 --> 00:14:31.060
  • - THE DESIGN IS IN THE SEED.
  • 00:14:31.080 --> 00:14:33.060
  • - ABSOLUTELY.
  • 00:14:33.080 --> 00:14:34.200
  • AND SO WHEN I LOOK BACK AT MY DNA AND MY
  • 00:14:34.220 --> 00:14:38.020
  • PROPENSITY TO LEAD AND MY PROCLIVITY TO TALK AND MY
  • 00:14:38.040 --> 00:14:41.230
  • FASCINATION WITH LIFE, MY MOTHER USED TO SAY THAT
  • 00:14:41.250 --> 00:14:47.070
  • THE WORLD IS A UNIVERSITY, AND EVERYONE
  • 00:14:47.090 --> 00:14:49.230
  • IN IT IS A TEACHER.
  • 00:14:49.250 --> 00:14:51.280
  • WHEN YOU WAKE UP IN THE MORNING, BE SURE YOU GO
  • 00:14:52.000 --> 00:14:53.260
  • TO SCHOOL.
  • 00:14:53.280 --> 00:14:56.040
  • AND I'VE BEEN DOING THAT ALL OF MY LIFE.
  • 00:14:56.060 --> 00:14:57.260
  • I'VE LEARNED FROM EVERYBODY I EVER MET,
  • 00:14:57.280 --> 00:15:01.080
  • GOOD OR BAD, RIGHT OR WRONG.
  • 00:15:01.100 --> 00:15:03.040
  • I LEARNED SOMETHING.
  • 00:15:03.060 --> 00:15:04.280
  • - YOU'RE CURIOUS, AREN'T YOU?
  • 00:15:05.000 --> 00:15:06.170
  • - OH, EXTREMELY.
  • 00:15:06.190 --> 00:15:07.170
  • EXTREMELY.
  • 00:15:07.190 --> 00:15:08.220
  • - CAN YOU TELL US ABOUT YOUR MOTHER?
  • 00:15:08.240 --> 00:15:10.250
  • - OH, FOR THE REST OF THE NIGHT.
  • 00:15:10.270 --> 00:15:13.090
  • [LAUGHTER] I THINK I GET MY FIGHT FROM
  • 00:15:13.110 --> 00:15:16.160
  • MY MOTHER.
  • 00:15:16.180 --> 00:15:18.160
  • MY MOTHER WAS A WARRIOR.
  • 00:15:18.180 --> 00:15:20.140
  • MY MOTHER GRADUATED FROM HIGH SCHOOL WHEN SHE WAS
  • 00:15:20.160 --> 00:15:23.130
  • 15 YEARS OLD, GREW UP IN MARION, ALABAMA.
  • 00:15:23.150 --> 00:15:26.060
  • WENT TO SCHOOL WITH CORETTA SCOTT KING.
  • 00:15:26.080 --> 00:15:28.080
  • - SHE DID?
  • 00:15:28.100 --> 00:15:29.170
  • - YES, SANG IN THE CHOIR WHEN SHE KNEW THE SCOTT
  • 00:15:29.190 --> 00:15:31.240
  • FAMILY VERY WELL.
  • 00:15:31.260 --> 00:15:34.120
  • GOT OUT OF HIGH SCHOOL AT 15 AND DID FOUR YEARS OF
  • 00:15:34.140 --> 00:15:37.180
  • COLLEGE IN 3 AND CAME OUT WITH A DOUBLE MAJOR AND
  • 00:15:37.200 --> 00:15:40.150
  • WENT TO DO HER STUDENT TEACHING IN MISSISSIPPI.
  • 00:15:40.170 --> 00:15:44.050
  • LATER ON WHEN SHE WAS 50 WENT BACK AND WENT AFTER
  • 00:15:44.070 --> 00:15:48.070
  • HER MASTER'S TEACHING CHILDREN WITH LEARNING
  • 00:15:48.090 --> 00:15:50.190
  • DISABILITIES, SO MY MOTHER GREW UP QUOTING
  • 00:15:50.210 --> 00:15:53.100
  • POETRY AND POEMS AND PROSE TO US AND ALL OF THAT
  • 00:15:53.120 --> 00:15:56.220
  • SORT OF THING, AND SHE DIDN'T START TEACHING
  • 00:15:56.240 --> 00:16:00.130
  • SCHOOL UNTIL I WAS OF AGE, SO SHE WENT FROM
  • 00:16:00.150 --> 00:16:03.270
  • TEACHING SCHOOL TO BEING EVENTUALLY THE EQUAL
  • 00:16:03.290 --> 00:16:06.130
  • EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE STATE
  • 00:16:06.150 --> 00:16:09.200
  • OF WEST VIRGINIA ADVANCEMENT.
  • 00:16:09.220 --> 00:16:10.190
  • - IS THAT RIGHT?
  • 00:16:10.210 --> 00:16:12.020
  • - SHE WAS SMART.
  • 00:16:12.040 --> 00:16:14.140
  • SHE WAS STRONG.
  • 00:16:14.160 --> 00:16:16.200
  • SHE DID NOT BELIEVE IN YOU GIVING UP AND
  • 00:16:16.220 --> 00:16:20.080
  • BREAKING DOWN AND LETTING GO, AND SHE'D SAY GET
  • 00:16:20.100 --> 00:16:24.140
  • YOURSELF TOGETHER.
  • 00:16:24.160 --> 00:16:26.030
  • [LAUGHTER] YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?
  • 00:16:26.050 --> 00:16:28.210
  • AND EVERY TIME, EVEN TO THIS DAY EVERY TIME I
  • 00:16:28.230 --> 00:16:31.150
  • FEEL MYSELF ABOUT TO GIVE WAY TO THE STRESS AND THE
  • 00:16:31.170 --> 00:16:33.120
  • PRESSURES OF MY LIFE, I CAN HEAR MY MOTHER'S
  • 00:16:33.140 --> 00:16:35.010
  • VOICE IN MY HEAD SAYING GET YOURSELF TOGETHER.
  • 00:16:35.030 --> 00:16:37.210
  • DON'T YOU LET THEM THROW YOU OVER.
  • 00:16:37.230 --> 00:16:39.270
  • YOU KNOW?
  • 00:16:39.290 --> 00:16:41.150
  • SHE WAS LIKE A COACH, AND SOME OF THAT IS IN
  • 00:16:41.170 --> 00:16:43.170
  • MY PREACHING.
  • 00:16:43.190 --> 00:16:46.240
  • SOMETIMES I CAN HEAR HER VOICE IN MY PREACHING,
  • 00:16:46.260 --> 00:16:49.030
  • THAT RELENTLESS TENACITY NOT TO ALLOW THE VICISSITUDES OF LIFE
  • 00:16:49.050 --> 00:16:52.180
  • TO OVERWHELM YOUR SOUL COMES FROM MORE THAN
  • 00:16:52.200 --> 00:16:56.170
  • FAITH IN GOD.
  • 00:16:56.190 --> 00:16:58.090
  • IT COMES FROM FERVOR IN THE HUMAN SPIRIT THAT HAS
  • 00:16:58.110 --> 00:17:01.160
  • BEEN MODELED IN FRONT OF YOU BY THE PEOPLE WHO
  • 00:17:01.180 --> 00:17:03.210
  • WENT BEFORE YOU.
  • 00:17:03.230 --> 00:17:05.080
  • THERE'S SO MANY PEOPLE SITTING IN THIS CHAIR
  • 00:17:05.100 --> 00:17:07.270
  • RIGHT NOW IT'S A WONDER IT DOESN'T FALL TO THE FLOOR.
  • 00:17:07.290 --> 00:17:10.130
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:17:10.150 --> 00:17:12.260
  • - YOU'VE GOT A WHOLE LEGACY.
  • 00:17:12.280 --> 00:17:14.040
  • - MY MOTHER, MY FATHER, MY GRANDMOTHER, MY GREAT
  • 00:17:14.060 --> 00:17:16.090
  • GRANDMOTHER ARE SITTING HERE.
  • 00:17:16.110 --> 00:17:18.190
  • MY GREAT-GREAT GRANDMOTHER WHO WAS A
  • 00:17:18.210 --> 00:17:20.030
  • SLAVE NAMED NANCY JAKES THAT I REMEMBER.,
  • 00:17:20.050 --> 00:17:22.150
  • SHE'S SITTING IN THIS CHAIR WITH ME.
  • 00:17:22.170 --> 00:17:24.140
  • - REALLY?
  • 00:17:24.160 --> 00:17:25.160
  • - MY GREAT-GREAT GRANDFATHER, WILLIE
  • 00:17:25.180 --> 00:17:27.100
  • SMILEY WHOSE MOTHER WAS A SLAVE AND DIED WHEN HE
  • 00:17:27.120 --> 00:17:29.170
  • WAS 103 YEARS OLD, HE'S SITTING HERE WITH ME, TOO.
  • 00:17:29.190 --> 00:17:32.080
  • I AM THE SUM TOTAL OF HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE WHO
  • 00:17:32.100 --> 00:17:36.270
  • SHAPED MY LIFE, AND THEY ARE GONE PHYSICALLY, BUT
  • 00:17:36.290 --> 00:17:40.220
  • THEY ALL LEFT INDENTATIONS ON MY SOUL.
  • 00:17:40.240 --> 00:17:44.250
  • - A WHOLE LEGACY.
  • 00:17:44.270 --> 00:17:48.070
  • - ABSOLUTELY.
  • 00:17:48.090 --> 00:17:49.190
  • I THINK THAT'S TRUE OF ALL OF US.
  • 00:17:49.210 --> 00:17:51.050
  • - WELL, IT IS.
  • 00:17:51.070 --> 00:17:52.180
  • - ALL OF US ARE THE SUM TOTAL OF SMALL DEPOSITS
  • 00:17:52.200 --> 00:17:57.030
  • THAT ARE MADE BY THE PEOPLE WHO PASS BY US
  • 00:17:57.050 --> 00:18:00.110
  • ALONG THE WAY.
  • 00:18:00.130 --> 00:18:01.240
  • - WAS THERE A PERSON -- OH, I HAVE SO MANY
  • 00:18:01.260 --> 00:18:06.130
  • THINGS I WANT TO ASK YOU.
  • 00:18:06.150 --> 00:18:11.050
  • A MENTOR, AN INFLUENCE OUTSIDE OF YOUR FAMILY,
  • 00:18:11.070 --> 00:18:14.080
  • MAYBE A TEACHER, PASTOR, COACH, NEIGHBOR.
  • 00:18:14.100 --> 00:18:18.070
  • - MY SPIRITUAL FATHER, BISHOP SHERMAN
  • 00:18:18.090 --> 00:18:19.230
  • WATKINS FROM COLUMBUS, OHIO.
  • 00:18:19.250 --> 00:18:21.080
  • HE'S STILL ALIVE.
  • 00:18:21.100 --> 00:18:22.190
  • HE'S 21 YEARS OLDER THAN ME, AND HE'S JUST HAD AN
  • 00:18:22.210 --> 00:18:29.100
  • INDELIBLE IMPRESSION ON MY LIFE.
  • 00:18:29.120 --> 00:18:31.020
  • - HOW DID YOU CONNECT WITH HIM AND WHAT WAS
  • 00:18:31.040 --> 00:18:33.060
  • THE DIFFERENCE?
  • 00:18:33.080 --> 00:18:34.170
  • - HE WAS A YOUNG MAN, AND I WAS A KID.
  • 00:18:34.190 --> 00:18:38.230
  • THE FIRST TIME I HEARD HIM PREACH I WAS 16,
  • 00:18:38.250 --> 00:18:41.260
  • AND WHEN I WAS 16 HE MUST HAVE BEEN 37, SOMETHING
  • 00:18:41.280 --> 00:18:49.010
  • LIKE THAT, 27, AND I HEARD HIM PREACH, AND
  • 00:18:49.030 --> 00:18:53.040
  • LITTLE BY LITTLE, HE LIVED IN COLUMBUS, I
  • 00:18:53.060 --> 00:18:57.040
  • LIVED IN WEST VIRGINIA, OVER THE YEARS OF MY
  • 00:18:57.060 --> 00:18:59.280
  • EARLY PASTORATE HE WAS THE ONE WHO SENT ME TO
  • 00:19:00.020 --> 00:19:03.000
  • MY FIRST CHURCH.
  • 00:19:03.020 --> 00:19:04.080
  • HE WAS THE ONE WHO LAID HANDS ON ME AND LICENSED
  • 00:19:04.100 --> 00:19:05.250
  • ME AND ORDAINED ME.
  • 00:19:05.270 --> 00:19:08.030
  • HE WAS THE ONE WHO WOULD CHASTEN ME.
  • 00:19:08.050 --> 00:19:11.180
  • AND THE FUNNY THING ABOUT BEING A GUY IS THAT WE
  • 00:19:11.200 --> 00:19:15.050
  • GET LOVE FROM CORRECTION.
  • 00:19:15.070 --> 00:19:17.290
  • - YEAH.
  • 00:19:18.010 --> 00:19:19.110
  • - YOU KNOW, IF YOU LOVE ME ENOUGH TO GET IN MY
  • 00:19:19.130 --> 00:19:21.010
  • FACE, THEN I RESPECT THAT.
  • 00:19:21.030 --> 00:19:24.240
  • I RESPECT THAT.
  • 00:19:24.260 --> 00:19:25.280
  • OH, HE WOULD GET IN MY FACE.
  • 00:19:26.000 --> 00:19:28.100
  • [LAUGHTER] AND THAT BECAME TERMS
  • 00:19:28.120 --> 00:19:32.190
  • OF ENDEARMENT.
  • 00:19:32.210 --> 00:19:33.240
  • A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT.
  • 00:19:33.260 --> 00:19:35.050
  • THEY ONLY RECOGNIZE MAMA LOVE, AND SO THEY ONLY
  • 00:19:35.070 --> 00:19:38.230
  • DEFINE LOVE BY NURTURING AND TENDER WORDS.
  • 00:19:38.250 --> 00:19:41.090
  • THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT I COME FROM AN ERA
  • 00:19:41.110 --> 00:19:44.100
  • WHEN MEN RAISE BOYS TO STAND UP, AND THERE WAS
  • 00:19:44.120 --> 00:19:48.190
  • SOMETHING EXPECTED OF YOU, YOU KNOW.
  • 00:19:48.210 --> 00:19:52.200
  • AND SO I RESPONDED READILY TO HIM.
  • 00:19:52.220 --> 00:19:54.180
  • AND HE'S A GREAT INVOICE IN MY LIFE.
  • 00:19:54.200 --> 00:19:58.070
  • THE OTHER DAY HE WAS COMING DOWN OFF THE
  • 00:19:58.090 --> 00:20:00.110
  • STAGE, AND I WAS TRYING TO HELP HIM OFF THE
  • 00:20:00.130 --> 00:20:01.200
  • STAGE, YOU KNOW, AND HE LOOKED AT ME AND HE SAID,
  • 00:20:01.220 --> 00:20:03.160
  • NOT YET.
  • 00:20:03.180 --> 00:20:05.160
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:20:05.180 --> 00:20:08.230
  • NOT YET.
  • 00:20:08.250 --> 00:20:09.250
  • - NOT YET.
  • 00:20:09.270 --> 00:20:10.210
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:20:10.230 --> 00:20:11.290
  • - IS HE STILL PREACHING?
  • 00:20:12.010 --> 00:20:13.050
  • - HE'S STILL PREACHING.
  • 00:20:13.070 --> 00:20:14.090
  • HE IS STILL PREACHING, YOU KNOW.
  • 00:20:14.110 --> 00:20:16.020
  • AT 82 OR 83 YEARS OLD HE'S STILL PREACHING THE
  • 00:20:16.040 --> 00:20:22.150
  • GOSPEL EVERY SUNDAY AND TEACHING ON WEDNESDAY
  • 00:20:22.170 --> 00:20:26.250
  • NIGHTS, AND NOT ONLY IS HE PREACHING, HE'S
  • 00:20:26.270 --> 00:20:28.130
  • CALLING ME UP AND TELLING ME WHAT HE'S GOING TO PREACH.
  • 00:20:28.150 --> 00:20:30.050
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:20:30.070 --> 00:20:32.060
  • SO THAT'S A WONDERFUL THING.
  • 00:20:32.080 --> 00:20:33.210
  • - YOU MUST BRING A LOT OF JOY TO HIS LIFE.
  • 00:20:33.230 --> 00:20:35.250
  • - WE DO TO EACH OTHER.
  • 00:20:35.270 --> 00:20:37.170
  • WHEN FATHERS AND SONS BECOME OLDER, THE
  • 00:20:37.190 --> 00:20:41.210
  • GRADUATION OF SONSHIP IS TO BECOME YOUR FATHER'S
  • 00:20:41.230 --> 00:20:44.250
  • FRIEND, AND THERE'S NO HIGHER HONOR THAN TO BE
  • 00:20:44.270 --> 00:20:49.100
  • YOUR FATHER'S FRIEND.
  • 00:20:49.120 --> 00:20:51.000
  • - YEAH. YEAH.
  • 00:20:51.020 --> 00:20:52.220
  • I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO GET TO THE BOOK [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:20:52.240 --> 00:20:56.030
  • BUT I'M STILL CURIOUS, THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO GREW
  • 00:20:56.050 --> 00:21:03.280
  • UP IN A SIMPLE BACKGROUND, HAD THEIR
  • 00:21:04.000 --> 00:21:08.180
  • SHARE OF CHALLENGES, NOT AS MANY AS YOU, BUT THEY
  • 00:21:08.200 --> 00:21:13.050
  • HAD THEIR CHALLENGES, AND YET THEY COME OUT ANGRY,
  • 00:21:13.070 --> 00:21:17.010
  • BITTER, BITTER TOWARD GOD, BITTER TOWARD THE WORLD.
  • 00:21:17.030 --> 00:21:21.210
  • THEY ANESTHETIZE THEIR PAIN RATHER THAN DEAL
  • 00:21:21.230 --> 00:21:24.290
  • WITH THEIR PAIN.
  • 00:21:25.010 --> 00:21:26.140
  • IN YOUR BOOK CRUSHING, YOU TALK ABOUT HOW IF WE
  • 00:21:26.160 --> 00:21:31.140
  • BELIEVE IN A SOVEREIGN GOD WE CAN SEE THAT THESE
  • 00:21:31.160 --> 00:21:34.280
  • ARE ORDAINED STRUGGLES THAT MAKE US WHO WE ARE.
  • 00:21:35.000 --> 00:21:39.290
  • - RIGHT.
  • 00:21:40.010 --> 00:21:41.150
  • - WHERE DID YOU PICK UP ON THAT?
  • 00:21:41.170 --> 00:21:43.070
  • I MEAN, IF YOU HADN'T HAVE KNOWN THAT, BISHOP,
  • 00:21:43.090 --> 00:21:46.170
  • YOU MIGHT HAVE BECOME BITTER.
  • 00:21:46.190 --> 00:21:48.290
  • - YOU KNOW, SOME OF IT CAME FROM NOT BEING
  • 00:21:49.010 --> 00:21:53.060
  • ALLOWED TO FEEL SORRY FOR YOURSELF.
  • 00:21:53.080 --> 00:21:56.000
  • SOME OF IT CAME FROM MY MOTHER'S RELENTLESS
  • 00:21:56.020 --> 00:22:02.200
  • TENACIOUS COMMITMENT TO YOU STANDING UP.
  • 00:22:02.220 --> 00:22:07.000
  • SOME OF IT CAME THROUGH -- I WAS BORN IN BETWEEN
  • 00:22:07.020 --> 00:22:11.050
  • TWO DEAD BABIES.
  • 00:22:11.070 --> 00:22:12.230
  • - OH, MY.
  • 00:22:12.250 --> 00:22:14.030
  • - THE ONE AND BEFORE ME AND AFTER ME DIED.
  • 00:22:14.050 --> 00:22:15.210
  • I WAS THE ONE THAT LIVED, SO I LEARNED EARLY THAT
  • 00:22:15.230 --> 00:22:20.110
  • LIFE WAS PRECIOUS.
  • 00:22:20.130 --> 00:22:22.060
  • AND THEN MY FATHER DIED WHEN I WAS 16, AND
  • 00:22:22.080 --> 00:22:24.040
  • THERE'S NOTHING LIKE LOWERING YOUR FATHER IN
  • 00:22:24.060 --> 00:22:25.220
  • THE GROUND TO MAKE YOU BREATHE LIFE MORE DEEPLY
  • 00:22:25.240 --> 00:22:28.150
  • AS IF YOU MIGHT NOT HAVE TOMORROW BECAUSE NOW
  • 00:22:28.170 --> 00:22:31.060
  • YOU'RE AWARE YOU COULD POSSIBLY NOT
  • 00:22:31.080 --> 00:22:33.210
  • HAVE TOMORROW.
  • 00:22:33.230 --> 00:22:34.290
  • MY GREATEST BIRTHDAY WAS MY 49TH BIRTHDAY BECAUSE
  • 00:22:35.010 --> 00:22:37.160
  • HE DIED WHEN HE WAS 48, AND WHEN I BECAME 49 I
  • 00:22:37.180 --> 00:22:40.180
  • BROKE THE CURSE.
  • 00:22:40.200 --> 00:22:42.150
  • SO THAT WAS A GREAT THING FOR ME TO DO THAT.
  • 00:22:42.170 --> 00:22:49.060
  • THIS WHOLE NOTION AND THIS FIDELITY THAT I HAVE
  • 00:22:49.080 --> 00:22:51.280
  • WITH THE SCRIPTURES AND PARTICULARLY WITH THE
  • 00:22:52.000 --> 00:22:54.240
  • WHOLE CRUSHING THING CAME WHILE I WAS SITTING OUT
  • 00:22:54.260 --> 00:22:57.230
  • ON THE TERRACE.
  • 00:22:57.250 --> 00:23:00.110
  • I GOT THIS WORD FROM THE LORD THAT COMES TO ME IN
  • 00:23:00.130 --> 00:23:04.130
  • THE STRANGEST KIND OF WAY THAT THE SEED OF THE
  • 00:23:04.150 --> 00:23:08.150
  • WOMAN WOULD BRUISE THE HEAD OF THE SERPENT AND
  • 00:23:08.170 --> 00:23:11.140
  • THE SERPENT WOULD BRUISE HIS HEEL.
  • 00:23:11.160 --> 00:23:13.280
  • AND THERE SITTING OUT ON THE TERRACE I SAW IN MY
  • 00:23:14.000 --> 00:23:18.150
  • SPIRIT THE BRUISED HEEL OF JESUS.
  • 00:23:18.170 --> 00:23:22.000
  • AND THEN THE NEXT FLASH I SAW THE STAINED FEET OF
  • 00:23:22.020 --> 00:23:29.100
  • WOMEN STOMPING GRAPES IN THE WINE PRESS.
  • 00:23:29.120 --> 00:23:33.220
  • AND THE BRUISED HEEL OF JESUS AND THE STOMPING OF
  • 00:23:33.240 --> 00:23:38.200
  • THE FEET ON THE CRUSHING OF THE GRAPES BROUGHT ME
  • 00:23:38.220 --> 00:23:42.010
  • TO THE PASSOVER CUP, AND HE SAID, THIS IS THE NEW
  • 00:23:42.030 --> 00:23:44.070
  • TESTAMENT AND MY BLOOD.
  • 00:23:44.090 --> 00:23:46.020
  • AND SUDDENLY I RECOGNIZED HIS AFFINITY TO THE
  • 00:23:46.040 --> 00:23:49.040
  • GRAPE, THAT THE GRAPE ITSELF WOULD TELL US THAT
  • 00:23:49.060 --> 00:23:52.150
  • THE ONLY WAY TO EXTRACT THE MOST VALUABLE PART OF
  • 00:23:52.170 --> 00:23:55.030
  • THE GRAPE IS FOR IT TO BE CRUSHED, AND THE ONLY
  • 00:23:55.050 --> 00:23:58.220
  • WAY TO GET THE ESSENCE OF CHRIST WAS FOR HIM TO BE
  • 00:23:58.240 --> 00:24:01.100
  • CRUSHED, AND OUT OF THAT CRUSHING COMES A
  • 00:24:01.120 --> 00:24:04.070
  • REVELATION, THAT CRUSHING IS NOT A DESTINATION.
  • 00:24:04.090 --> 00:24:09.030
  • YOU DON'T GET STUCK IN IT.
  • 00:24:09.050 --> 00:24:10.120
  • IT'S TRANSPORTATION.
  • 00:24:10.140 --> 00:24:12.130
  • IT'S TRANSPORTATION.
  • 00:24:12.150 --> 00:24:14.270
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:24:14.290 --> 00:24:19.060
  • I DON'T KNOW ANYBODY WHO EVER BECAME MAJOR IN ANY
  • 00:24:19.080 --> 00:24:26.040
  • AREA OF LIFE, NOT JUST CHURCH, ANY AREA OF LIFE
  • 00:24:26.060 --> 00:24:29.030
  • WHO WAS NOT PROPELLED BY THE FORCE OF SOME LEVEL
  • 00:24:29.050 --> 00:24:33.100
  • OF CRUSHING, SOMETHING COULD HAVE KILLED YOU AND
  • 00:24:33.120 --> 00:24:37.290
  • SHOULD HAVE KILLED YOU BECAME THE CATALYST AND
  • 00:24:38.010 --> 00:24:41.120
  • THE URGENCY THROUGH WHICH YOU EVOLVED INTO THE
  • 00:24:41.140 --> 00:24:44.080
  • HIGHEST EXPRESSION OF WHO YOU WERE MEANT TO BE.
  • 00:24:44.100 --> 00:24:48.170
  • - CAN I READ YOU WHAT YOU SAID?
  • 00:24:48.190 --> 00:24:50.000
  • - SURE.
  • 00:24:50.020 --> 00:24:51.030
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:24:51.050 --> 00:24:52.270
  • - IT'S GOING TO SOUND BETTER WHEN YOU READ IT.
  • 00:24:52.290 --> 00:24:53.250
  • - LISTEN TO THIS.
  • 00:24:53.270 --> 00:24:56.250
  • IT'S FROM THE BOOK CRUSHING THAT RELEASES
  • 00:24:56.270 --> 00:24:59.150
  • THIS SPRING.
  • 00:24:59.170 --> 00:25:02.130
  • CRUSHING PLACES REVEALED THERE IS MORE TO OUR
  • 00:25:02.150 --> 00:25:06.040
  • LIVES THAN WE HAD PLANNED.
  • 00:25:06.060 --> 00:25:08.250
  • THE TRULY INVALUABLE, MARVELOUS AND ETERNAL
  • 00:25:08.270 --> 00:25:13.040
  • ASPECTS OF OUR IDENTITY AND ULTIMATE DESTINY ARE
  • 00:25:13.060 --> 00:25:18.220
  • DISPLAYED IN US THERE.
  • 00:25:18.240 --> 00:25:20.250
  • IT IS IN THE MIDST OF PAINFUL CRUSHING THAT WE
  • 00:25:20.270 --> 00:25:24.260
  • REALIZE THAT THE BLESSING FOUND IN THE PRODUCTION
  • 00:25:24.280 --> 00:25:27.220
  • OF FRUIT IN OUR LIVES WAS NEVER THE MASTER'S
  • 00:25:27.240 --> 00:25:30.200
  • END GOAL.
  • 00:25:30.220 --> 00:25:32.100
  • OUR LATEST CROP OF FRUIT WAS MERELY PART OF AN
  • 00:25:32.120 --> 00:25:37.020
  • ONGOING GREATER PROCESS.
  • 00:25:37.040 --> 00:25:39.230
  • - YES, SIR.
  • 00:25:39.250 --> 00:25:40.290
  • - WHAT YOU HELP ME DO, I THINK ALL OF US, IS YOUR
  • 00:25:41.010 --> 00:25:45.100
  • HELPING ME INTERPRET THE TOUGH TIMES OF MY LIFE, RIGHT.
  • 00:25:45.120 --> 00:25:50.000
  • - UH-HUH.
  • 00:25:50.020 --> 00:25:51.110
  • - YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT THERE IS A PLAN, THAT
  • 00:25:51.130 --> 00:25:55.180
  • THERE IS A PURPOSE, AND THAT I'LL GET THROUGH THEM.
  • 00:25:55.200 --> 00:25:58.190
  • - ABSOLUTELY.
  • 00:25:58.210 --> 00:25:59.270
  • - I'LL BE BETTER ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THEM.
  • 00:25:59.290 --> 00:26:02.130
  • AM I --
  • 00:26:02.150 --> 00:26:03.240
  • - YES, SIR. YOU'RE HITTING IT EXACTLY RIGHT.
  • 00:26:03.260 --> 00:26:05.210
  • AND I'M TELLING YOU THAT THE GREATEST PART OF YOU
  • 00:26:05.230 --> 00:26:08.270
  • IS STILL SOMEWHERE DOWN INSIDE OF YOU AND ONLY
  • 00:26:08.290 --> 00:26:12.010
  • PRESSURE WILL GET IT OUT.
  • 00:26:12.030 --> 00:26:13.110
  • - ONLY PRESSURE.
  • 00:26:13.130 --> 00:26:14.290
  • - YEAH, THAT YOU HAVE NOT SEEN WHO YOU ARE IN
  • 00:26:15.010 --> 00:26:18.210
  • THE PLEASANT MOMENTS WHEN YOU SMELL THE BLOSSOMS ON
  • 00:26:18.230 --> 00:26:21.010
  • THE VINE AND FEEL THE SUN DRENCHED ON YOUR FACE,
  • 00:26:21.030 --> 00:26:23.200
  • THAT YOU WERE RAISED NOT TO BE FRUITFUL BUT TO
  • 00:26:23.220 --> 00:26:26.140
  • BE CRUSHED.
  • 00:26:26.160 --> 00:26:28.210
  • - OH, I WISH I COULD HIGHLIGHT THAT SENTENCE.
  • 00:26:28.230 --> 00:26:32.170
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:26:32.190 --> 00:26:33.280
  • - LISTEN TO THIS.
  • 00:26:34.000 --> 00:26:35.110
  • OLD SILVER TONGUE HIMSELF.
  • 00:26:35.130 --> 00:26:37.070
  • - THE GRAPE IS ONE OF THE FEW FRUITS THAT IS
  • 00:26:37.090 --> 00:26:40.100
  • RAISED TO BE CRUSHED.
  • 00:26:40.120 --> 00:26:42.040
  • - LOOK AT THAT.
  • 00:26:42.060 --> 00:26:43.070
  • - YOU KNOW, WITH CRUSHING IN MIND,
  • 00:26:43.090 --> 00:26:45.160
  • CHRIST WAS BORN TO DIE.
  • 00:26:45.180 --> 00:26:48.110
  • ANYTHING SHORT OF THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN FAILURE.
  • 00:26:48.130 --> 00:26:50.260
  • THAT'S WHY WHEN PETER TRIED TO STOP THE
  • 00:26:50.280 --> 00:26:52.090
  • CRUCIFIXION, HE CALLED HIM A DEVIL AND SAID GET BEHIND
  • 00:26:52.110 --> 00:26:55.150
  • ME, AND HE CALLED JUDAS FRIEND BECAUSE HE
  • 00:26:55.170 --> 00:26:58.200
  • UNDERSTOOD THAT HE WAS RAISED LIKE THE GRAPE TO
  • 00:26:58.220 --> 00:27:00.110
  • BE CRUSHED.
  • 00:27:00.130 --> 00:27:02.010
  • AND SO THE BIBLE SAYS THAT JESUS SET HIS FACE
  • 00:27:02.030 --> 00:27:06.260
  • TO GO TO JERUSALEM, BUT HE DID NOT REST HIS HEAD
  • 00:27:06.280 --> 00:27:11.000
  • UNTIL IT WAS ON THE CROSS.
  • 00:27:11.020 --> 00:27:13.190
  • AND UNDERSTANDING THAT FOR THIS PURPOSE CAME I
  • 00:27:13.210 --> 00:27:16.050
  • INTO THE WORLD, AND NOT THAT YOU LOVE SUFFERING.
  • 00:27:16.070 --> 00:27:19.290
  • HE DESPISES SHAME.
  • 00:27:20.010 --> 00:27:22.010
  • HE DESPISES SHAME, BUT FOR THE JOY THAT WAS SET
  • 00:27:22.030 --> 00:27:25.260
  • BEFORE HIM, SO HE LOOKED BEYOND THE CRUSHING AND
  • 00:27:25.280 --> 00:27:28.050
  • HE SAW THE WINE, YOU SEE.
  • 00:27:28.070 --> 00:27:31.180
  • AND UNDERSTANDING THAT WINE IS TAKING THE GRAPE
  • 00:27:31.200 --> 00:27:36.210
  • INTO ITS MOST POWERFUL EXPRESSION, AND IT IS
  • 00:27:36.230 --> 00:27:39.190
  • PUTTING IT IN ITS MOST ETERNAL FORM, AND LIFE
  • 00:27:39.210 --> 00:27:42.270
  • CRUSHES US FROM TIME TO TIME BECAUSE NOTHING ELSE
  • 00:27:42.290 --> 00:27:48.220
  • WILL GET OUT OF YOU THE HIDDEN TREASURE THAT WE
  • 00:27:48.240 --> 00:27:51.130
  • HAVE LOCKED UP IN EARTHEN VESSELS BUT TO BE CRUSHED.
  • 00:27:51.150 --> 00:27:54.210
  • - AMEN. AMEN.
  • 00:27:54.230 --> 00:27:55.280
  • ARE WE EVER BEYOND CRUSHING?
  • 00:27:56.000 --> 00:27:57.140
  • DO YOU EVER LIVE LONG ENOUGH WHERE YOU CAN SAY
  • 00:27:57.160 --> 00:28:01.260
  • OH GOOD, I'VE GOT ALL THE CRUSHING BEHIND ME, IT'S
  • 00:28:01.280 --> 00:28:03.090
  • JUST HARVEST FROM NOW ON?
  • 00:28:03.110 --> 00:28:05.090
  • - YOU KNOW, THE FUNNY THING ABOUT IT I THINK
  • 00:28:05.110 --> 00:28:09.160
  • PERIODICALLY WHEREVER THERE IS PURPOSE AND
  • 00:28:09.180 --> 00:28:13.030
  • RESISTANCE TO THAT PURPOSE PRESSURE RELEASES
  • 00:28:13.050 --> 00:28:17.240
  • US FROM THAT RESISTANCE, AND THE MORE THAT WE
  • 00:28:17.260 --> 00:28:20.050
  • YIELD TO THE PROCESS -BUT THE PROBLEM TODAY IS THAT
  • 00:28:20.070 --> 00:28:26.060
  • WE DON'T PREACH PROCESS.
  • 00:28:26.080 --> 00:28:28.150
  • WE PREACH PROMISES.
  • 00:28:28.170 --> 00:28:31.200
  • SO WE HAVE RAISED A GENERATION OF PEOPLE WHO
  • 00:28:31.220 --> 00:28:34.170
  • SEE GOD IN PROMISES, NOT PROCESS.
  • 00:28:34.190 --> 00:28:38.210
  • SO YOU GO TO CHURCH ON SUNDAY, AND YOU HEAR
  • 00:28:38.230 --> 00:28:40.120
  • ABOUT THE PROMISES OF GOD.
  • 00:28:40.140 --> 00:28:42.040
  • YOU GO HOME TO THE PROCESS, AND WHEN YOU
  • 00:28:42.060 --> 00:28:44.050
  • ENCOUNTER THE PROCESS, YOU SAY, WELL,
  • 00:28:44.070 --> 00:28:45.210
  • GOD IS NOT IN THIS.
  • 00:28:45.230 --> 00:28:47.170
  • AND I WOULD ARGUE THAT GOD MORE IN THE PROCESS THAN
  • 00:28:47.190 --> 00:28:50.010
  • HE IS IN THE PROMISE.
  • 00:28:50.030 --> 00:28:51.270
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:28:51.290 --> 00:28:57.020
  • - IS EVERYBODY TAKING NOTES?
  • 00:28:57.040 --> 00:28:58.050
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:28:58.070 --> 00:28:59.160
  • YOU CAN SAY AMEN.
  • 00:28:59.180 --> 00:29:00.280
  • - AMEN.
  • 00:29:01.000 --> 00:29:02.110
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:29:02.130 --> 00:29:04.080
  • - HE'S IN THE PROCESS MORE THAN THE PROMISE.
  • 00:29:04.100 --> 00:29:07.040
  • THE PROMISES ONLY MAKE SENSE BECAUSE OF THE PROCESS.
  • 00:29:07.060 --> 00:29:09.130
  • - WHEN YOU PASS THROUGH THE WATERS, I'LL BE WITH YOU.
  • 00:29:09.150 --> 00:29:12.290
  • WHEN YOU GO THROUGH THE FIRE, I'LL BE THERE.
  • 00:29:13.010 --> 00:29:15.290
  • HIS PROMISE IS TO BE WITH YOU IN THE PROCESS, AND
  • 00:29:16.010 --> 00:29:19.220
  • THERE ARE THINGS THAT YOU CANNOT LEARN ABOUT HIM
  • 00:29:19.240 --> 00:29:24.040
  • UNTIL YOU ARE IN THE PROCESS.
  • 00:29:24.060 --> 00:29:26.200
  • THERE IS A REVELATION OF HIS GLORY THAT ONLY COMES
  • 00:29:26.220 --> 00:29:31.030
  • IN THE FRUSTRATION AND THE DISRUPTION OF YOUR LIFE.
  • 00:29:31.050 --> 00:29:34.010
  • HE SAID, I'M A PRESENT HELP IN TROUBLE.
  • 00:29:34.030 --> 00:29:36.060
  • IF YOU AVOID THE TROUBLE, YOU'LL AVOID ME.
  • 00:29:36.080 --> 00:29:38.200
  • THE LITERAL LANGUAGE, I JEHOVAH SHAMMAH, I AM
  • 00:29:38.220 --> 00:29:41.080
  • PRESENT IN TROUBLE.
  • 00:29:41.100 --> 00:29:42.280
  • I AM REVEALED IN TROUBLE.
  • 00:29:43.000 --> 00:29:45.270
  • I SHOW MYSELF STRONG WHEN MEN FORSAKE ME.
  • 00:29:45.290 --> 00:29:48.100
  • THEN THE LORD WILL TAKE ME UP.
  • 00:29:48.120 --> 00:29:51.260
  • SEE, SO IT WAS GOOD FOR ME THAT I
  • 00:29:51.280 --> 00:29:53.130
  • HAD BEEN AFFLICTED.
  • 00:29:53.150 --> 00:29:54.260
  • HAD I NOT BEEN AFFLICTED, I WOULD NEVER HAVE KNOWN
  • 00:29:54.280 --> 00:29:56.140
  • THE GLORY OF GOD.
  • 00:29:56.160 --> 00:29:58.080
  • SO ALL THROUGH THE BIBLE, THE BIBLE -- THE VERY
  • 00:29:58.100 --> 00:29:59.280
  • SYMBOL OF OUR FAITH IS A CRUSHING PLACE, A CROSS,
  • 00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:04.170
  • AN EMBLEM OF SUFFERING AND SHAME.
  • 00:30:04.190 --> 00:30:06.140
  • IT'S NOT A CROWN.
  • 00:30:06.160 --> 00:30:08.000
  • - NO.
  • 00:30:08.020 --> 00:30:09.190
  • - IT'S NOT A CROWN, IT'S NOT A THRONE. IT'S A CROSS.
  • 00:30:09.210 --> 00:30:12.010
  • WHO MAKES AN INVITATION A CROSS BUT JESUS?
  • 00:30:12.030 --> 00:30:16.270
  • YOU KNOW, YOU MAKE AN INVITATION.
  • 00:30:16.290 --> 00:30:18.180
  • YOU SAY, COME GO TO HAWAII.
  • 00:30:18.200 --> 00:30:20.140
  • LET'S GO TO SWITZERLAND.
  • 00:30:20.160 --> 00:30:22.170
  • JESUS SAYS, COME ON, LET'S GO TO THE CROSS.
  • 00:30:22.190 --> 00:30:25.140
  • THAT'S A HARD INVITATION.
  • 00:30:25.160 --> 00:30:28.000
  • TAKE UP YOUR CROSS AND FOLLOW ME.
  • 00:30:28.020 --> 00:30:29.140
  • COME ON, LET'S DIE.
  • 00:30:29.160 --> 00:30:31.050
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:30:31.070 --> 00:30:33.080
  • YOU KNOW, WHO WANTS TO GO DO THAT, OKAY?
  • 00:30:33.100 --> 00:30:35.190
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:30:35.210 --> 00:30:37.160
  • THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN FOLLOW THAT KIND OF
  • 00:30:37.180 --> 00:30:40.200
  • REQUEST IS TO KNOW THAT WHAT IS ON THE OTHER SIDE
  • 00:30:40.220 --> 00:30:43.200
  • IS GREATER THAN ANYTHING THAT WAS BEFORE IT, AND
  • 00:30:43.220 --> 00:30:47.160
  • UNDERSTANDING THAT IS WHAT THIS BOOK IS ALL ABOUT.
  • 00:30:47.180 --> 00:30:52.140
  • LET ME JUST INTERJECT ONE THING QUICKLY BECAUSE
  • 00:30:52.160 --> 00:30:55.150
  • WE'VE TALKED ABOUT GRAPHIC OVER CRUSHINGS,
  • 00:30:55.170 --> 00:30:59.270
  • BUT I WANT TO WARN THE AUDIENCE ABOUT INVISIBLE
  • 00:30:59.290 --> 00:31:03.050
  • CRUSHINGS THAT COME FROM FORCES THAT YOU CANNOT
  • 00:31:03.070 --> 00:31:08.020
  • SEE LIKE STRESS AND HEARTBREAK AND PAIN.
  • 00:31:08.040 --> 00:31:12.180
  • NOBODY HAS TO BE SICK OR LOCK YOU UP, OR YOU DON'T
  • 00:31:12.200 --> 00:31:16.130
  • HAVE TO COME OUT OF PRISON FOR YOU TO BE
  • 00:31:16.150 --> 00:31:18.210
  • CRUSHED BY STRESS.
  • 00:31:18.230 --> 00:31:21.210
  • SCIENCE TEACHES US THAT THE SAME PART OF OUR BODY
  • 00:31:21.230 --> 00:31:25.000
  • THAT REACTS TO PHYSICAL PAIN, THE SAME SIGNAL
  • 00:31:25.020 --> 00:31:29.040
  • GOES TO YOUR BRAIN FROM EMOTIONAL PAIN.
  • 00:31:29.060 --> 00:31:33.050
  • IT TURNS OUT THE SAME STIMULI THROUGHOUT THE
  • 00:31:33.070 --> 00:31:35.130
  • NEUROLOGICAL SYSTEM, WHEN YOUR HEART IS BROKEN AS
  • 00:31:35.150 --> 00:31:39.190
  • IF IT WOULD IF YOUR LEG WAS BROKEN.
  • 00:31:39.210 --> 00:31:41.230
  • - REALLY?
  • 00:31:41.250 --> 00:31:43.170
  • - SO YOU DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO INCUR
  • 00:31:43.190 --> 00:31:45.200
  • PHYSICAL INJURY TO BE CRUSHED BY EMOTIONAL
  • 00:31:45.220 --> 00:31:49.030
  • STRESS, AND WE ARE LIVING IN A TIME OF UNSEEN
  • 00:31:49.050 --> 00:31:53.070
  • FORCES BEARING DOWN ON OUR SOUL ON A DAILY BASIS.
  • 00:31:53.090 --> 00:31:57.130
  • EVERYTHING IS GOING SO FAST.
  • 00:31:57.150 --> 00:31:59.070
  • TECHNOLOGY, SOCIAL MEDIA.
  • 00:31:59.090 --> 00:32:01.140
  • WE'VE GOT EVERYBODY SAYING EVERYTHING ABOUT
  • 00:32:01.160 --> 00:32:03.170
  • EVERYTHING ALL OF THE TIME, AND THE WHIRLWIND
  • 00:32:03.190 --> 00:32:05.280
  • THAT WE'RE IN RIGHT NOW IS THE WINE PRESS.
  • 00:32:06.000 --> 00:32:10.190
  • THE WHIRLWIND, THE MAD SPINNING OF OUR LIVES
  • 00:32:10.210 --> 00:32:15.260
  • CAUSES THE -- THE CENTRIFUGAL FORCE OF
  • 00:32:15.280 --> 00:32:19.040
  • BEING SPUN AROUND CAUSES PRESSURE ALL BY ITSELF,
  • 00:32:19.060 --> 00:32:23.200
  • AND IN THAT FAST PACE THAT WE LIVE IN, THERE'S A
  • 00:32:23.220 --> 00:32:28.130
  • CERTAIN AMOUNT OF INVISIBLE PRESSURE, AND
  • 00:32:28.150 --> 00:32:31.040
  • THE STRANGE THING ABOUT IT IS YOU FEEL THE PAIN,
  • 00:32:31.060 --> 00:32:34.240
  • YOU SENSE THE PRESSURE, AND YOU CAN'T SEE THE SOURCE.
  • 00:32:34.260 --> 00:32:40.180
  • SO ALL OF THE SUDDEN, YOU'RE GETTING THE IMPACT
  • 00:32:40.200 --> 00:32:43.210
  • AS IF THERE WERE ASSAILANT, BUT THERE'S
  • 00:32:43.230 --> 00:32:46.290
  • NO ASSAILANT THAT YOU CAN SEE.
  • 00:32:47.010 --> 00:32:49.020
  • - CAN'T LASH OUT.
  • 00:32:49.040 --> 00:32:50.270
  • - AND GOD SAYS, YOU CAN EITHER SEE IT AS THE WINE
  • 00:32:50.290 --> 00:32:54.010
  • PRESS, OR YOU CAN SEE IT AS THE POTTER'S WHEEL,
  • 00:32:54.030 --> 00:32:58.130
  • BUT THE MORE IT SPINS, THE MORE HE TOUCHES IT,
  • 00:32:58.150 --> 00:33:02.210
  • AND THE MORE IT CHANGES IN THE SPINNING.
  • 00:33:02.230 --> 00:33:05.140
  • AND IF YOU ARE NOT PREPARED FOR DISRUPTION,
  • 00:33:05.160 --> 00:33:09.070
  • THEN YOU'RE NOT PREPARED FOR RESURRECTION.
  • 00:33:09.090 --> 00:33:12.230
  • - NOT PREPARED FOR DISRUPTION, YOU'RE NOT
  • 00:33:12.250 --> 00:33:17.050
  • PREPARED FOR RESURRECTION.
  • 00:33:17.070 --> 00:33:19.220
  • WHAT I HEAR YOU SAYING TO US IS DON'T TRY TO ESCAPE
  • 00:33:19.240 --> 00:33:24.180
  • YOUR TROUBLES, BUT LEAN INTO THEM.
  • 00:33:24.200 --> 00:33:27.080
  • - LEAN INTO THEM. - LEAN INTO THEM.
  • 00:33:27.100 --> 00:33:28.280
  • - LEAN INTO THEM.
  • 00:33:29.000 --> 00:33:30.270
  • - AND SAY, GOD, WHAT ARE YOU TELLING ME?
  • 00:33:30.290 --> 00:33:33.220
  • WHAT ARE YOU TEACHING ME?
  • 00:33:33.240 --> 00:33:35.280
  • CONSIDER IT ALL JOY, MY BRETHREN.
  • 00:33:36.000 --> 00:33:37.190
  • - YES, SIR.
  • 00:33:37.210 --> 00:33:39.080
  • - WHEN YOU FACE VARIOUS TRIALS AND TRIBULATIONS.
  • 00:33:39.100 --> 00:33:41.190
  • - YES, AND I'LL BE HONEST.
  • 00:33:41.210 --> 00:33:44.060
  • THAT'S NOT THE -- SOMEBODY SAID,
  • 00:33:44.080 --> 00:33:46.150
  • THAT'S NOT EASY TO DO.
  • 00:33:46.170 --> 00:33:48.120
  • IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU DO FROM THE PLACE OF
  • 00:33:48.140 --> 00:33:50.240
  • YOUR EMOTIONS.
  • 00:33:50.260 --> 00:33:52.180
  • IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU DO FROM THE PLACE
  • 00:33:52.200 --> 00:33:53.280
  • OF YOUR TEACHING.
  • 00:33:54.000 --> 00:33:55.200
  • I WENT THROUGH A PERIOD IN MY LIFE WHERE HE WAS
  • 00:33:55.220 --> 00:33:58.050
  • JUST BEING CRUSHED. MY HEART WAS BROKEN. I WAS WORRIED.
  • 00:33:58.070 --> 00:33:59.290
  • IT WAS ONE OF THE MOST DISTRAUGHT MOMENTS IN MY
  • 00:34:00.030 --> 00:34:02.010
  • LIFE, AND I WAS LITERALLY CRYING WHEN I TOLD GOD THIS.
  • 00:34:02.030 --> 00:34:04.140
  • I SAID, LORD, I HATE THIS.
  • 00:34:04.160 --> 00:34:07.050
  • I ABSOLUTELY HATE THIS.
  • 00:34:07.070 --> 00:34:10.060
  • BUT I LOVE YOU, AND I KNOW YOU WOULD NOT ALLOW
  • 00:34:10.080 --> 00:34:12.280
  • ME TO GO THROUGH THIS IF IT WERE NOT FOR MY GOOD.
  • 00:34:13.000 --> 00:34:17.030
  • AND THOUGH TEARS ARE RUNNING DOWN MY FACE, AND
  • 00:34:17.050 --> 00:34:19.160
  • I CANNOT SEE MY WAY OUT, IF YOU SUFFERED ME TO BE
  • 00:34:19.180 --> 00:34:23.120
  • BRUISED, IT'S ONLY TO MAKE ME BETTER.
  • 00:34:23.140 --> 00:34:27.030
  • AND SO TRUST YOU WHEN I CAN'T TRACE YOU BECAUSE
  • 00:34:27.050 --> 00:34:30.160
  • HE THAT HAVE BEGAN A GOOD WORK IN ME --
  • 00:34:30.180 --> 00:34:33.070
  • - WILL BRING IT TO COMPLETION.
  • 00:34:33.090 --> 00:34:34.280
  • - SHALL BRING IT TO COMPLETION.
  • 00:34:35.000 --> 00:34:36.180
  • YOU CANNOT CONVINCE ME.
  • 00:34:36.200 --> 00:34:38.080
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:34:38.100 --> 00:34:42.000
  • YOU CANNOT CONVINCE ME THAT HE'S NOT FOR ME.
  • 00:34:42.020 --> 00:34:48.040
  • AND WHATEVER HE ORDERED ME TO FACE, WHEN IT'S ALL
  • 00:34:48.060 --> 00:34:52.230
  • OVER, IT HAS GOT TO END FOR ME BECAUSE I AM --
  • 00:34:52.250 --> 00:34:58.170
  • THE RELATIONSHIP THAT I AM THE MOST SECURE OF IS
  • 00:34:58.190 --> 00:35:04.070
  • HIM, AND THE REASON I AM SO SECURE IS THERE'S
  • 00:35:04.090 --> 00:35:06.140
  • NOTHING ABOUT ME THAT HE HAS NOT CONSIDERED.
  • 00:35:06.160 --> 00:35:08.160
  • - START TO FINISH.
  • 00:35:08.180 --> 00:35:10.190
  • - FROM START TO FINISH.
  • 00:35:10.210 --> 00:35:12.130
  • ALL THINGS ARE NAKED BEFORE HIM WITH
  • 00:35:12.150 --> 00:35:14.020
  • WHOM WE HAVE TO DO.
  • 00:35:14.040 --> 00:35:15.250
  • I COULD DISAPPOINT MY WIFE OR DISAPPOINT MY
  • 00:35:15.270 --> 00:35:17.220
  • CHURCH OR DISAPPOINT MY MOTHER.
  • 00:35:17.240 --> 00:35:19.220
  • THEY COULD FIND OUT SOMETHING ABOUT ME OR
  • 00:35:19.240 --> 00:35:21.140
  • CHANGE THEIR MIND ABOUT ME.
  • 00:35:21.160 --> 00:35:23.020
  • GOD COULD NEVER FIND OUT ANYTHING ABOUT ME.
  • 00:35:23.040 --> 00:35:25.070
  • - HE CANNOT BE SURPRISED.
  • 00:35:25.090 --> 00:35:26.240
  • - YEAH, HE CANNOT BE SURPRISED.
  • 00:35:26.260 --> 00:35:28.290
  • THERE'S NOTHING ABOUT ME THAT HE DOESN'T ALREADY KNOW.
  • 00:35:29.010 --> 00:35:31.220
  • HE'S ALREADY MADE UP HIS MIND ABOUT ME.
  • 00:35:31.240 --> 00:35:35.020
  • - HE HAS RENDERED HIS VERDICT.
  • 00:35:35.040 --> 00:35:36.290
  • - HE HAS RENDERED HIS VERDICT, AND THERE IS
  • 00:35:37.010 --> 00:35:38.190
  • THEREFORE NOW NO CONDEMNATION.
  • 00:35:38.210 --> 00:35:40.040
  • - NO CONDEMNATION.
  • 00:35:40.060 --> 00:35:41.220
  • - YEAH, SO WHATEVER HE ORDERSED FOR ME TO GO
  • 00:35:41.240 --> 00:35:43.230
  • THROUGH IN PROCESS -- YEA, THOUGH YOU WALK
  • 00:35:43.250 --> 00:35:47.050
  • THROUGH THE VALLEY OF THE SHADOW OF DEATH, YOU
  • 00:35:47.070 --> 00:35:49.140
  • SHALL FEAR NO EVIL FOR THOU ART WITH ME.
  • 00:35:49.160 --> 00:35:50.290
  • THY ROD AND THY STAFF, THEY COMFORT ME.
  • 00:35:51.010 --> 00:35:52.270
  • THOU PREPAREST A TABLE BEFORE ME IN THE
  • 00:35:52.290 --> 00:35:57.000
  • PRESENCE OF MINE ENEMIES.
  • 00:35:57.020 --> 00:35:58.250
  • THOU ANOINTED MY HEAD WITH.
  • 00:35:58.270 --> 00:36:00.190
  • MY CUP, MY CUP RUNNETH OVER.
  • 00:36:00.210 --> 00:36:03.180
  • YOU CAN'T HAVE THE RUNOVER IF YOU DON'T GO
  • 00:36:03.200 --> 00:36:05.160
  • THROUGH THE VALLEY OF THE SHADOW OF DEATH.
  • 00:36:05.180 --> 00:36:07.170
  • AND LISTEN TO HOPE SCREAMING IN THE EARS
  • 00:36:07.190 --> 00:36:10.060
  • IN THE DARKEST MOMENTS OF HIS LIFE.
  • 00:36:10.080 --> 00:36:12.150
  • SURELY, NOT MAYBE, NOT HOPEFULLY, BUT SURELY.
  • 00:36:12.170 --> 00:36:16.030
  • - SURELY. - GOODNESS AND MERCY.
  • 00:36:16.050 --> 00:36:19.200
  • - SHALL FOLLOW.
  • 00:36:19.220 --> 00:36:21.090
  • - SHALL FOLLOW ME ALL THE DAYS OF MY LIFE.
  • 00:36:21.110 --> 00:36:24.000
  • AND WHEN IT'S ALL OVER, I'M GOING TO DWELL
  • 00:36:24.020 --> 00:36:26.120
  • IN THE HOUSE OF THE LORD FOREVER.
  • 00:36:26.140 --> 00:36:29.090
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:36:29.110 --> 00:36:33.000
  • I LOVE THAT.
  • 00:36:33.020 --> 00:36:34.240
  • - THAT'S GOOD, THAT'S GOOD.
  • 00:36:34.260 --> 00:36:37.200
  • - SO WHEN WE STAND STAND, YOU AND I, OVER
  • 00:36:37.220 --> 00:36:40.030
  • SHORT CASKETS AND SMALL GRAVES AND CHILDREN
  • 00:36:40.050 --> 00:36:44.000
  • BURNED IN FIRES, IT ISN'T ALWAYS POSSIBLE TO
  • 00:36:44.020 --> 00:36:48.220
  • EXPLAIN SUFFERING.
  • 00:36:48.240 --> 00:36:52.110
  • IT ISN'T ALWAYS POSSIBLE TO MAKE PEOPLE REJOICE IN
  • 00:36:52.130 --> 00:36:59.120
  • THAT TYPE OF AGONY.
  • 00:36:59.140 --> 00:37:02.110
  • I TEACH PEOPLE JUST SURVIVE IT.
  • 00:37:02.130 --> 00:37:07.030
  • - THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO DO.
  • 00:37:07.050 --> 00:37:09.020
  • - JUST SURVIVE IT. DON'T TRY TO UNDERSTAND IT.
  • 00:37:09.040 --> 00:37:10.270
  • - RIGHT, RIGHT.
  • 00:37:10.290 --> 00:37:12.220
  • - JUST SURVIVE IT BECAUSE IF YOU SURVIVE
  • 00:37:12.240 --> 00:37:14.250
  • IT, ON THE OTHER SIDE OF IT, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE
  • 00:37:14.270 --> 00:37:17.140
  • SOMETHING THAT MAKES IT, IN RETROSPECT, MAKE MORE
  • 00:37:17.160 --> 00:37:21.110
  • SENSE THAN IT DOES TODAY.
  • 00:37:21.130 --> 00:37:23.140
  • - IT DOES.
  • 00:37:23.160 --> 00:37:25.090
  • - YEAH, YEAH. LOOKING BACK AT THE REAR VIEW MIRROR,
  • 00:37:25.110 --> 00:37:27.190
  • IT'S NOT THAT IT WAS EVER A WONDERFUL THING TO GO
  • 00:37:27.210 --> 00:37:30.240
  • THROUGH, BUT HAD MY FATHER NOT DIED WHEN HE
  • 00:37:30.260 --> 00:37:33.200
  • DID, I WOULDN'T BE WHO I AM.
  • 00:37:33.220 --> 00:37:35.230
  • HIS DEATH WAS THE BIRTH OF MY MINISTRY, YOU SEE?
  • 00:37:35.250 --> 00:37:38.250
  • AND THE SEEDS ALWAYS HINT TO US THAT LIFE
  • 00:37:38.270 --> 00:37:45.100
  • COMES OUT OF DEATH.
  • 00:37:45.120 --> 00:37:47.190
  • AS THE OUTER ENCASEMENT CORRODES IN THE GROUND,
  • 00:37:47.210 --> 00:37:50.090
  • THE INNER LIFE BURSTS FORTH, AND EVERYTHING
  • 00:37:50.110 --> 00:37:53.020
  • THAT DIES IN YOU IS ONLY SO THAT SOMETHING ELSE
  • 00:37:53.040 --> 00:37:55.220
  • CAN BE BORN IN YOU.
  • 00:37:55.240 --> 00:37:57.090
  • - YEAH, YEAH.
  • 00:37:57.110 --> 00:37:59.020
  • IT OCCURRED TO ME ONCE THAT THE REASON THAT GOD
  • 00:37:59.040 --> 00:38:03.260
  • CAN -- THAT HE ALLOWS US, HE PERMITS THESE SEASONS
  • 00:38:03.280 --> 00:38:09.130
  • OF SUFFERINGS TO COME -- YOU REFER TO THIS IN YOUR
  • 00:38:09.150 --> 00:38:12.250
  • BOOK, AS WELL -- AND THAT IS JUST THE INTENSE
  • 00:38:12.270 --> 00:38:15.190
  • BREVITY OF THIS LIFE.
  • 00:38:15.210 --> 00:38:17.230
  • IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S GOING TO LAST FOREVER.
  • 00:38:17.250 --> 00:38:19.150
  • - RIGHT.
  • 00:38:19.170 --> 00:38:21.140
  • WHEN I TURNED 60, WHICH IS KIND OF A
  • 00:38:21.160 --> 00:38:25.260
  • LONG TIME AGO NOW AS YOU STOP AND THINK ABOUT IT --
  • 00:38:25.280 --> 00:38:27.280
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:38:28.000 --> 00:38:30.020
  • MY THREE DAUGHTERS AND TWO SON-IN-LAWS CAME OVER
  • 00:38:30.040 --> 00:38:34.010
  • FOR A PARTY, AND WHAT I WANTED FROM THEM FOR ME
  • 00:38:34.030 --> 00:38:38.150
  • BIRTHDAY WAS 20 MINUTES OF UNDIVIDED ATTENTION.
  • 00:38:38.170 --> 00:38:42.060
  • AND SO THEY HAD TO LISTEN.
  • 00:38:42.080 --> 00:38:44.030
  • GAVE THEM NO OPTION.
  • 00:38:44.050 --> 00:38:46.030
  • AND I TOOK THIS ROPE, BISHOP, THIS THICK ROPE
  • 00:38:46.050 --> 00:38:49.210
  • THAT YOU USE TO TIE UP BOATS.
  • 00:38:49.230 --> 00:38:51.220
  • YOU KNOW, THOSE BIG THINKING ROPES.
  • 00:38:51.240 --> 00:38:53.120
  • I WENT DOWN TO A STORE AND BOUGHT IT.
  • 00:38:53.140 --> 00:38:55.020
  • AND I TOOK THE ROPE, AND I TIED IT TO A PIECE OF
  • 00:38:55.040 --> 00:38:57.190
  • FURNITURE, AND THEN I OPENED THE PATIO DOOR,
  • 00:38:57.210 --> 00:39:01.010
  • AND I THREW IT OVER THE BALCONY AS IF THE ROPE
  • 00:39:01.030 --> 00:39:03.100
  • WAS DISAPPEARING.
  • 00:39:03.120 --> 00:39:06.010
  • AND I GAVE EACH OF THEM A BLACK MARKER.
  • 00:39:06.030 --> 00:39:10.010
  • AND I SAID, PRETEND THAT THIS IS MY
  • 00:39:10.030 --> 00:39:11.220
  • ETERNAL EXISTENCE, OKAY?
  • 00:39:11.240 --> 00:39:15.230
  • THIS IS LUCADO'S ETERNAL EXISTENCE.
  • 00:39:15.250 --> 00:39:18.110
  • YOU CAN'T SEE IT.
  • 00:39:18.130 --> 00:39:19.220
  • IT GOES ON FOR INFINITY, AND I GAVE EACH ONE OF
  • 00:39:19.240 --> 00:39:22.010
  • THEM A MARKER, AND I SAID NOW, COULD YOU INDICATE
  • 00:39:22.030 --> 00:39:25.140
  • MY EARTHLY LIFE ON THIS ROPE?
  • 00:39:25.160 --> 00:39:29.180
  • AND THEY'RE USED TO ME DOING THESE ODD THINGS.
  • 00:39:29.200 --> 00:39:31.180
  • - RIGHT, RIGHT.
  • 00:39:31.200 --> 00:39:33.270
  • - AND THEN THEY REALIZED, AND ONE OF THEM
  • 00:39:33.290 --> 00:39:36.160
  • SAID, DAD, WE CAN'T MAKE THE DOT TINY ENOUGH.
  • 00:39:36.180 --> 00:39:40.080
  • IT CANNOT BE TINY ENOUGH.
  • 00:39:40.100 --> 00:39:43.110
  • AND WE TALKED IN THAT LET DEVOTIONAL ABOUT HOW THE
  • 00:39:43.130 --> 00:39:47.010
  • APOSTLE PAUL TALKS ABOUT THESE BRIEF
  • 00:39:47.030 --> 00:39:49.140
  • AND MOMENTARY STRUGGLES.
  • 00:39:49.160 --> 00:39:51.140
  • - YEAH. - THEY DON'T SEEM LIKE
  • 00:39:51.160 --> 00:39:53.120
  • IT WHEN WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF IT.
  • 00:39:53.140 --> 00:39:55.010
  • - NO, THEY DON'T AT ALL.
  • 00:39:55.030 --> 00:39:56.150
  • - BUT OUR HEAVENLY FATHER LOOKING ON US
  • 00:39:56.170 --> 00:39:58.110
  • SAYS, YOU KNOW, LUCADO, YOU CANNOT THROUGH TWO OR
  • 00:39:58.130 --> 00:40:00.010
  • THREE YEARS OF HARDSHIP, BECAUSE OF THE GOOD,
  • 00:40:00.030 --> 00:40:03.280
  • BECAUSE OF THE GOOD IT'S GOING TO GIVE THE KINGDOM
  • 00:40:04.000 --> 00:40:06.030
  • AND YOUR CHARACTER.
  • 00:40:06.050 --> 00:40:08.250
  • BUT THEN ALSO IT'S NOT THAT LONG.
  • 00:40:08.270 --> 00:40:10.090
  • - NO.
  • 00:40:10.110 --> 00:40:11.200
  • - IT'S NOT THAT LONG.
  • 00:40:11.220 --> 00:40:13.040
  • - NO, IT'S NOT THAT LONG, AND YOU CANNOT
  • 00:40:13.060 --> 00:40:14.160
  • ALLOW IT TO BE THAT LONG.
  • 00:40:14.180 --> 00:40:16.070
  • - THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:40:16.090 --> 00:40:17.270
  • - ONE OF THE THINGS I TRY TO CONVEY IN THE
  • 00:40:17.290 --> 00:40:19.180
  • BOOK, SOME PEOPLE REFUSE TO GET WELL.
  • 00:40:19.200 --> 00:40:21.060
  • [GIGGLING]
  • 00:40:21.080 --> 00:40:23.210
  • THEY REFUSE RECOVERY.
  • 00:40:23.230 --> 00:40:27.030
  • - THAT WAS THE QUESTION OF THE JESUS AT
  • 00:40:27.050 --> 00:40:29.250
  • THE POOL OF BETHESDA. DO YOU WANT TO GET WELL?
  • 00:40:29.270 --> 00:40:33.170
  • - DO YOU WANT TO GET WELL?
  • 00:40:33.190 --> 00:40:35.030
  • SOME PEOPLE REFUSE RECOVERY BECAUSE THEY
  • 00:40:35.050 --> 00:40:37.050
  • HAVE BUILT A SYSTEM AROUND DYSFUNCTION.
  • 00:40:37.070 --> 00:40:39.030
  • - YEAH.
  • 00:40:39.050 --> 00:40:41.020
  • - AND DYSFUNCTION BECOMES COMFORTABLE.
  • 00:40:41.040 --> 00:40:42.170
  • I GOT MY CUP.
  • 00:40:42.190 --> 00:40:44.120
  • I GOT MY COAT, AND I'M PREPARED TO BE BLIND.
  • 00:40:44.140 --> 00:40:45.240
  • - I GOT MY THREE SQUARE MEALS A DAY.
  • 00:40:45.260 --> 00:40:48.060
  • - YEAH, YEAH, SO I'M GOING SIT BY THE SIDE OF
  • 00:40:48.080 --> 00:40:50.100
  • THE ROAD AND SHAKE MY CUP AND WEAR MY COAT.
  • 00:40:50.120 --> 00:40:52.120
  • AND THEN JESUS COMES AND DISRUPTS IT ALWAYS, AND
  • 00:40:52.140 --> 00:40:55.120
  • THE CUP HAS TO FALL, AND THE COAT HAS TO DROP
  • 00:40:55.140 --> 00:40:58.070
  • THAT BLIND BARTIMAEUS MAY BE HEALED.
  • 00:40:58.090 --> 00:41:00.250
  • AND IT IS THE URGENCY OF A FLEETING MOMENT.
  • 00:41:00.270 --> 00:41:05.090
  • THE ESCAPE OUT OF PAIN IS A FLEETING MOMENT.
  • 00:41:05.110 --> 00:41:09.080
  • IT IS PASSING BY, AND IF YOU'RE NOT WILLING TO
  • 00:41:09.100 --> 00:41:12.210
  • COME OUT OF YOUR COAT AND DROP YOUR CUP AND STEP
  • 00:41:12.230 --> 00:41:16.130
  • INTO THAT MOMENT BLINDLY, WITHOUT UNDERSTANDING IT,
  • 00:41:16.150 --> 00:41:20.240
  • WITHOUT SOMEBODY APOLOGIZING, WITHOUT
  • 00:41:20.260 --> 00:41:23.080
  • SOMEBODY COMING BACK AND MAKING IT RIGHT.
  • 00:41:23.100 --> 00:41:25.000
  • THIS IS NOT ABOUT THEM.
  • 00:41:25.020 --> 00:41:26.150
  • THIS IS ABOUT YOU.
  • 00:41:26.170 --> 00:41:28.020
  • THIS IS ABOUT YOU.
  • 00:41:28.040 --> 00:41:29.260
  • THIS IS ABOUT THE MOMENT OF YOUR LIBERATION THAT
  • 00:41:29.280 --> 00:41:32.010
  • WHEN YOU GET -- I NEVER WILL FORGET WHEN, IN THE
  • 00:41:32.030 --> 00:41:34.260
  • MIDDLE OF MY MOTHER'S FUNERAL, ONE OF MY DEAR
  • 00:41:34.280 --> 00:41:37.200
  • FRIENDS CAME DOWN, AND I SAID, I WANT YOU TO BE
  • 00:41:37.220 --> 00:41:40.010
  • PREPARED TO PREACH IT.
  • 00:41:40.030 --> 00:41:41.210
  • SHE ALWAYS WANTED ME TO, BUT I DON'T THINK I CAN.
  • 00:41:41.230 --> 00:41:44.200
  • I SAID, BUT IF SOMETHING HAPPENS IN THE SERVICE,
  • 00:41:44.220 --> 00:41:47.230
  • AND A BREATH OF GRACE BLOWS BY IN FACE, I'LL
  • 00:41:47.250 --> 00:41:51.150
  • STEP INTO IT AND DO IT.
  • 00:41:51.170 --> 00:41:53.140
  • AND IN THE MIDDLE OF MY PAIN, THIS WINDOW OF
  • 00:41:53.160 --> 00:41:58.030
  • GRACE OPENED UP AND GAVE ME THE STRENGTH, AND I
  • 00:41:58.050 --> 00:42:01.090
  • STOOD UP AND WALKED UP THERE AND PREACHED
  • 00:42:01.110 --> 00:42:03.120
  • MY MAMA'S FUNERAL.
  • 00:42:03.140 --> 00:42:05.060
  • AND YOU KNOW, I FELT LIKE A LITTLE BOY WHO HAD DONE
  • 00:42:05.080 --> 00:42:09.270
  • A GOOD JOB ON HIS EASTER SPEECH.
  • 00:42:09.290 --> 00:42:11.200
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:42:11.220 --> 00:42:13.270
  • I WAS, NOW, THERE.
  • 00:42:13.290 --> 00:42:16.030
  • BECAUSE THE GRACE TO ESCAPE IS A FLEETING
  • 00:42:16.050 --> 00:42:21.060
  • MOMENT, AND YOU HAVE TO TAKE THAT GRACE RATHER
  • 00:42:21.080 --> 00:42:24.240
  • THAN TO REFUSE TO RECOVER ONLY BECAUSE YOU LANGUISH
  • 00:42:24.260 --> 00:42:29.210
  • IN THE ATTENTION OF THE MOURNERS WHO COME BY YOUR
  • 00:42:29.230 --> 00:42:34.270
  • SIDE TO HELP YOU STAY INCAPACITATED.
  • 00:42:34.290 --> 00:42:38.130
  • BLIND BARTIMAEUS KNEW THAT IF JESUS KEPT
  • 00:42:38.150 --> 00:42:43.050
  • WALKING BY, HE WOULD HAVE DIED BLIND.
  • 00:42:43.070 --> 00:42:45.200
  • THAT WAS HIS LAST WALK PAST THAT ROAD, AND IF HE
  • 00:42:45.220 --> 00:42:49.290
  • DIDN'T GET IT RIGHT THEN, HE WASN'T GOING TO GET IT.
  • 00:42:50.010 --> 00:42:52.110
  • AND WHETHER IT COMES THROUGH A SONG OR A
  • 00:42:52.130 --> 00:42:54.250
  • FRIEND OR A MESSAGE, WHEN HE CALLS YOU,
  • 00:42:54.270 --> 00:42:59.230
  • HARDEN NOT YOUR HEART.
  • 00:42:59.250 --> 00:43:01.160
  • YOU HAVE TO RECEIVE THAT RIGHT THEN AND SAY, I'M
  • 00:43:01.180 --> 00:43:04.150
  • COMING OUT, AND NOT FEEL GUILTY THAT YOU CAME OUT,
  • 00:43:04.170 --> 00:43:07.250
  • AND NOT FEEL ASHAMED THAT YOU CAME OUT, AND NOT
  • 00:43:07.270 --> 00:43:10.100
  • STAY IN FOR THE BENEFIT OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE
  • 00:43:10.120 --> 00:43:13.110
  • BUILT THEIR LIVES AROUND YOUR PAIN.
  • 00:43:13.130 --> 00:43:16.110
  • BECAUSE THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO MAKE A JOB OF YOU
  • 00:43:16.130 --> 00:43:19.270
  • BEING AFFLICTED.
  • 00:43:19.290 --> 00:43:22.020
  • - IT'S WHERE THEY GET THEIR IDENTITY.
  • 00:43:22.040 --> 00:43:24.100
  • - THAT'S WHERE THEY GET THEIR IDENTITY, AND THEY
  • 00:43:24.120 --> 00:43:26.070
  • NEED TO BE NEEDED, SO THEY NEED YOU
  • 00:43:26.090 --> 00:43:27.260
  • TO STAY BROKEN.
  • 00:43:27.280 --> 00:43:29.220
  • AND SO YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE COURAGE TO
  • 00:43:29.240 --> 00:43:31.280
  • GET BACK UP AGAIN.
  • 00:43:32.000 --> 00:43:33.240
  • YOU HAVE THE COURAGE TO RISE UP.
  • 00:43:33.260 --> 00:43:35.270
  • THE THING ABOUT WINE IS THAT IT SWELLS.
  • 00:43:35.290 --> 00:43:38.240
  • - SAY THAT AGAIN.
  • 00:43:38.260 --> 00:43:40.160
  • - THE THING ABOUT WINE IS THAT IT SWELLS, AND
  • 00:43:40.180 --> 00:43:42.070
  • THAT'S WHY YOU CAN'T PUT NEW WINE IN OLD SKINS
  • 00:43:42.090 --> 00:43:44.190
  • BECAUSE IT SWELLS, YOU SEE?
  • 00:43:44.210 --> 00:43:47.220
  • AND SO WHEN THAT MOMENT TO ESCAPE COMES, YOU
  • 00:43:47.240 --> 00:43:51.260
  • CAN'T BE ENCAPSULATEED BY SOMETHING THAT IS
  • 00:43:51.280 --> 00:43:54.070
  • INFLEXIBLE.
  • 00:43:54.090 --> 00:43:56.110
  • AND SOMETIMES THE PEOPLE WE BUILD AROUND US ARE
  • 00:43:56.130 --> 00:43:58.210
  • OUR OLD SKINS WHO WON'T GIVE US BREATHING
  • 00:43:58.230 --> 00:44:01.210
  • ROOM TO SWELL.
  • 00:44:01.230 --> 00:44:03.080
  • - TO CHANGE.
  • 00:44:03.100 --> 00:44:05.000
  • - TO OUR CAPACITY. AND THEY LOVE YOU AS LONG AS YOU
  • 00:44:05.020 --> 00:44:07.130
  • STAY ON A CERTAIN LEVEL.
  • 00:44:07.150 --> 00:44:09.050
  • - RIGHT, AS LONG AS YOU FIT IN THEIR BOX.
  • 00:44:09.070 --> 00:44:11.120
  • - THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT, ABOUT
  • 00:44:11.140 --> 00:44:14.180
  • CRUSHING CAUSING YOU TO EXPAND.
  • 00:44:14.200 --> 00:44:17.100
  • I'M BIGGER THROUGH EVERYTHING I WENT THROUGH.
  • 00:44:17.120 --> 00:44:19.260
  • I'M STRONGER THROUGH EVERYTHING I WENT THROUGH.
  • 00:44:19.280 --> 00:44:22.070
  • I'M TOUGHER THROUGH EVERYTHING I WENT THROUGH.
  • 00:44:22.090 --> 00:44:25.020
  • EVERYTHING I SUFFERED IN WEST VIRGINIA PREPARED ME
  • 00:44:25.040 --> 00:44:29.030
  • FOR EVERYTHING I WOULD GO THROUGH IN DALLAS.
  • 00:44:29.050 --> 00:44:30.280
  • - WOW, THAT'S GOOD.
  • 00:44:31.000 --> 00:44:32.140
  • - SO WHAT WAS PAINFUL IN WEST VIRGINIA, I BECAME
  • 00:44:32.160 --> 00:44:36.080
  • GRATEFUL FOR IN DALLAS BECAUSE I THOUGHT, OH,
  • 00:44:36.100 --> 00:44:39.160
  • THAT'S NOTHING, YOU KNOW? I SAW THAT.
  • 00:44:39.180 --> 00:44:43.250
  • THAT'S ELEMENTARY STUFF RIGHT THERE.
  • 00:44:43.270 --> 00:44:45.190
  • AND SO GOD LET'S MOSES PRACTICE HIS MIRACLES IN
  • 00:44:45.210 --> 00:44:52.040
  • PRIVATE BEFORE HE BRINGS HIM BEFORE PHARAOH.
  • 00:44:52.060 --> 00:44:56.010
  • AND SO GOD SETS US UP IN SITUATIONS THAT ARE
  • 00:44:56.030 --> 00:44:59.000
  • NON-THREATENING SO THAT WE CAN PRACTICE SO THAT
  • 00:44:59.020 --> 00:45:00.290
  • IN THE DAY OF CONFRONTATION, WE HAVE
  • 00:45:01.010 --> 00:45:03.160
  • SOME EXPERIENCE AT HANDLING THIS MOMENT.
  • 00:45:03.180 --> 00:45:06.150
  • - JOSEPH, JOSEPH.
  • 00:45:06.170 --> 00:45:10.210
  • - WHAT'S BETTER THAN THAT?
  • 00:45:10.230 --> 00:45:12.180
  • - HE WAS TESTED IN HIS AFFLICTION.
  • 00:45:12.200 --> 00:45:14.200
  • - YES, SIR.
  • 00:45:14.220 --> 00:45:16.150
  • - HE WAS TESTED IN HIS AFFLICTION.
  • 00:45:16.170 --> 00:45:18.010
  • - ABSOLUTELY.
  • 00:45:18.030 --> 00:45:19.260
  • - AND DON'T YOU KNOW THAT THE REASON THAT
  • 00:45:19.280 --> 00:45:22.130
  • JOSEPH COULD BE STRONG IS BECAUSE HE COULD LOOK AT
  • 00:45:22.150 --> 00:45:24.140
  • HIS BROTHERS AND SEA, WHAT YOU -- YOU INTENDED
  • 00:45:24.160 --> 00:45:27.110
  • THIS FOR EVIL, BUT GOD...
  • 00:45:27.130 --> 00:45:29.230
  • - BUT GOD.
  • 00:45:29.250 --> 00:45:31.180
  • - BUT GOD INTENDED IT FOR GOOD.
  • 00:45:31.200 --> 00:45:33.060
  • WHAT I SEE IN YOUR LIFE THAT I ADMIRE SO MUCH IS
  • 00:45:33.080 --> 00:45:37.140
  • THAT YOU HAVE KEPT THAT "BUT GOD" IN
  • 00:45:37.160 --> 00:45:40.050
  • THE MIDDLE OF YOUR STORY.
  • 00:45:40.070 --> 00:45:41.210
  • - ABSOLUTELY.
  • 00:45:41.230 --> 00:45:43.100
  • - A LOT OF PEOPLE WANT TO GET IT OUT.
  • 00:45:43.120 --> 00:45:44.220
  • YOU INTENDED EVIL FOR ME, AND IT STOPS RIGHT THERE.
  • 00:45:44.240 --> 00:45:46.070
  • - RIGHT, RIGHT.
  • 00:45:46.090 --> 00:45:47.190
  • - THAT'S WHERE THEIR STORY STOPS.
  • 00:45:47.210 --> 00:45:49.020
  • - I THINK, I THINK -- YOU KNOW, I KNEW WE WERE
  • 00:45:49.040 --> 00:45:50.220
  • GOING TO DO THIS.
  • 00:45:50.240 --> 00:45:53.020
  • I THINK THAT'S WHY GOD CHOSE HIM OF ALL THE BROTHERS.
  • 00:45:53.040 --> 00:45:56.210
  • I THINK THAT'S WHY GOD BLESSED HIM BECAUSE
  • 00:45:56.230 --> 00:45:59.000
  • JOSEPH HAD THE CAPACITY TO BLESS SOMEBODY
  • 00:45:59.020 --> 00:46:02.170
  • WHO HAD HURT HIM.
  • 00:46:02.190 --> 00:46:04.220
  • SEE, WHEN YOU START TALKING ABOUT WINE, YOU
  • 00:46:04.240 --> 00:46:07.190
  • HAVE TO TALK ABOUT CAPACITY BECAUSE GROWTH
  • 00:46:07.210 --> 00:46:10.000
  • IS THERE, AND JOSEPH EXEMPLIFIED THE CAPACITY
  • 00:46:10.020 --> 00:46:13.270
  • TO BE BIGGER THAN HIS SITUATION.
  • 00:46:13.290 --> 00:46:15.280
  • AND SO TO HIM WHOM MUCH IS GIVEN,
  • 00:46:16.000 --> 00:46:18.270
  • MUCH IS REQUIRED.
  • 00:46:18.290 --> 00:46:20.260
  • AND I REALLY BELIEVE WITH ALL OF MY HEART, WHEN YOU
  • 00:46:20.280 --> 00:46:23.220
  • READ THROUGH THE STORY OF JOSEPH, HIS GREATEST
  • 00:46:23.240 --> 00:46:26.260
  • STRENGTH WAS HIS ABILITY TO LOVE THOSE WHO
  • 00:46:26.280 --> 00:46:29.180
  • HAD VICTIMIZEED HIM.
  • 00:46:29.200 --> 00:46:31.100
  • - BECAUSE WHEN HE SAW THEM, HE WEPT.
  • 00:46:31.120 --> 00:46:33.170
  • REMEMBER, BEFORE HE DISCLOSED, BEFORE THEY
  • 00:46:33.190 --> 00:46:35.040
  • RECOGNIZED WHO HE WAS?
  • 00:46:35.060 --> 00:46:36.250
  • HE HAD TO STEP OUT AND WEEP.
  • 00:46:36.270 --> 00:46:38.210
  • HIS HEART WAS SO TENDER.
  • 00:46:38.230 --> 00:46:40.140
  • - THAT'S RIGHT, AND I ACTUALLY THINK THAT WHEN
  • 00:46:40.160 --> 00:46:42.140
  • HE SAID, YOU MEANT IT FOR EVE, BUT GOD MADE IT
  • 00:46:42.160 --> 00:46:44.240
  • GOOD, I THINK HE WAS TRYING TO COMFORT THEM,
  • 00:46:44.260 --> 00:46:47.090
  • NOT CHASTEN THEM.
  • 00:46:47.110 --> 00:46:49.240
  • - I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT, I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT.
  • 00:46:49.260 --> 00:46:51.070
  • - IT'S OKAY, IT'S OKAY, IT'S OKAY.
  • 00:46:51.090 --> 00:46:53.120
  • YOU MEANT IT FOR EVIL, BUT I'M OKAY.
  • 00:46:53.140 --> 00:46:55.040
  • GOD MADE IT GOOD.
  • 00:46:55.060 --> 00:46:56.270
  • I STILL GOT THERE.
  • 00:46:56.290 --> 00:46:58.210
  • YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU TAKE YOUR STORY AWAY FROM THE
  • 00:46:58.230 --> 00:47:04.040
  • PEOPLE WHO HURT YOU AND DETERMINE IN YOUR HEART
  • 00:47:04.060 --> 00:47:08.140
  • "WHATEVER YOU DID, IT'S OKAY, I STILL GOT THERE,"
  • 00:47:08.160 --> 00:47:12.290
  • YOU WON'T HAVE ANY REASON TO BE BITTER.
  • 00:47:13.010 --> 00:47:16.030
  • - THERE YOU GO.
  • 00:47:16.050 --> 00:47:17.270
  • - IN FACT --
  • 00:47:17.290 --> 00:47:19.110
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:47:19.130 --> 00:47:23.010
  • IT'S NOT JUST THAT I GOT THERE IN SPITE OF YOU.
  • 00:47:23.030 --> 00:47:27.240
  • IN MANY WAYS, I GOT THERE BECAUSE OF YOU.
  • 00:47:27.260 --> 00:47:30.150
  • - BECAUSE OF YOU, BECAUSE OF YOU.
  • 00:47:30.170 --> 00:47:32.010
  • - YEAH, BECAUSE OF YOU.
  • 00:47:32.030 --> 00:47:33.170
  • - YOU DIDN'T KNOW IT, BUT YOU WERE HELPING.
  • 00:47:33.190 --> 00:47:34.210
  • - YOU WERE HELPING.
  • 00:47:34.230 --> 00:47:35.290
  • - YOU WERE TEACHING ME.
  • 00:47:36.010 --> 00:47:37.120
  • - YOU WERE HELPING ME, YOU WERE TEACHING ME, YOU
  • 00:47:37.140 --> 00:47:39.070
  • WERE TRAINING ME, YOU WERE PREPARING ME, AND I
  • 00:47:39.090 --> 00:47:41.050
  • HAVE THIS CAPACITY BECAUSE YOU STRETCHED ME.
  • 00:47:41.070 --> 00:47:43.160
  • - GOD GIVES US AN ABILITY TO REINTERPRET
  • 00:47:43.180 --> 00:47:47.060
  • OUR PAST, DOESN'T HE?
  • 00:47:47.080 --> 00:47:49.150
  • RATHER THAN SEE OURSELVES AS VICTIMS OF A DIFFICULT
  • 00:47:49.170 --> 00:47:55.210
  • PAST, HE GIVES US THE GRACE TO LOOK BACK
  • 00:47:55.230 --> 00:47:59.000
  • AND SAY, OH, OKAY.
  • 00:47:59.020 --> 00:48:00.220
  • OUR SOVEREIGN LORD WAS AT WORK EVEN IN THAT.
  • 00:48:00.240 --> 00:48:05.060
  • - EVEN IN THAT. - EVEN IN THAT.
  • 00:48:05.080 --> 00:48:07.030
  • - IF GOD SPARED NOT HIS OWN SON.
  • 00:48:07.050 --> 00:48:09.210
  • - BUT GAVE HIM UP FOR US ALL.
  • 00:48:09.230 --> 00:48:11.250
  • - BUT GAVE HIM UP FOR US ALL, WHO AM I TO THINK
  • 00:48:11.270 --> 00:48:15.230
  • THAT I AM ABOVE GOING THROUGH ANYTHING, YOU KNOW?
  • 00:48:15.250 --> 00:48:19.030
  • - WHY NOT ME?
  • 00:48:19.050 --> 00:48:21.010
  • - JOB SAYS, THE LORD KNOWS THE WAY THAT I
  • 00:48:21.030 --> 00:48:23.100
  • TAKE, AND WHEN HE HAS TRIED ME, I SHALL COME
  • 00:48:23.120 --> 00:48:26.150
  • FORTH AS PURE GOLD.
  • 00:48:26.170 --> 00:48:29.080
  • I MAY BE IN THE FIRE RIGHT NOW [CHUCKLING]
  • 00:48:29.100 --> 00:48:32.210
  • BUT I SHALL COME FORTH AS PURE GOLD.
  • 00:48:32.230 --> 00:48:35.030
  • AND I THINK THAT IF YOU CAN KEEP THE PROMISE OF
  • 00:48:35.050 --> 00:48:39.180
  • THE WINE WITH YOU WE'LL YOU ARE BEING CRUSHED
  • 00:48:39.200 --> 00:48:43.210
  • UNDER THE FEET, THAT THIS IS NOT MY FINAL FORM,
  • 00:48:43.230 --> 00:48:47.150
  • THAT THOUGH I STAIN THE FEET OF THOSE WHO OPPRESS
  • 00:48:47.170 --> 00:48:51.170
  • ME NOW, THIS IS NOT MY FINAL FORM, THERE IS
  • 00:48:51.190 --> 00:48:54.110
  • SOMETHING COMING OUT OF ME THAT'S GREATER THAN
  • 00:48:54.130 --> 00:48:56.260
  • WHAT IS HURTING ME, AND WHAT IS COME OUT OF ME,
  • 00:48:56.280 --> 00:49:01.060
  • YOU WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO STOP.
  • 00:49:01.080 --> 00:49:02.280
  • IF YOU CAN KEEP THAT IN YOUR MIND, YOU WILL
  • 00:49:03.000 --> 00:49:06.090
  • UNDERSTAND WHY CHRIST CAME TO THE GARDEN OF
  • 00:49:06.110 --> 00:49:08.230
  • GETHSEMANE TO PREPARE HIM FOR THE CROSS, TO REMIND
  • 00:49:08.250 --> 00:49:12.140
  • HIMSELF THAT CRUSHING IS ALL THAT HE WAS GOING
  • 00:49:12.160 --> 00:49:15.160
  • THROUGH, THAT THE SECRETIONS OF WHAT WAS IN
  • 00:49:15.180 --> 00:49:17.290
  • HIM WAS BETTER THAN THE PRESSURES THAT OPPRESSED HIM.
  • 00:49:18.010 --> 00:49:20.050
  • AND I'M HOPING TO WRITE THIS BOOK TO SOMEBODY WHO
  • 00:49:20.070 --> 00:49:24.030
  • HAS SOMETHING IN THEM THAT THEY COULD NOT GET
  • 00:49:24.050 --> 00:49:27.160
  • OUT ANY OTHER WAY, AND I WANT THEM TO UNDERSTAND
  • 00:49:27.180 --> 00:49:31.070
  • THAT PRESSURE TURNS TO POWER WHEN GOD
  • 00:49:31.090 --> 00:49:34.220
  • DOES THE PRESSING.
  • 00:49:34.240 --> 00:49:36.070
  • - THAT'S RIGHT, PRESSURE TURNS TO POWER.
  • 00:49:36.090 --> 00:49:38.040
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:49:38.060 --> 00:49:42.160
  • WE ASSUME THAT PRESENCE OF PAIN IS THE
  • 00:49:42.180 --> 00:49:44.220
  • ABSENCE OF GOD.
  • 00:49:44.240 --> 00:49:46.120
  • WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT PRESENCE OF PAIN CAN
  • 00:49:46.140 --> 00:49:48.270
  • BE THE BEST WORK OF GOD.
  • 00:49:48.290 --> 00:49:51.210
  • - ABSOLUTELY, ABSOLUTELY.
  • 00:49:51.230 --> 00:49:53.110
  • - BEST WORK OF GOD.
  • 00:49:53.130 --> 00:49:55.010
  • - AND IF YOU -- MY WISDOM IS MADE
  • 00:49:55.030 --> 00:49:59.170
  • OUT OF MY MISTAKES.
  • 00:49:59.190 --> 00:50:02.260
  • YOU ONLY BECOME AS SMART AS YOU WERE A FOOL.
  • 00:50:02.280 --> 00:50:05.130
  • - [CHUCKLING] I'M PRETTY SMART THEN.
  • 00:50:05.150 --> 00:50:08.200
  • - YOU KNOW, YOU THINK ABOUT HOW YOU TRIED TO
  • 00:50:08.220 --> 00:50:13.010
  • TELL YOUR CHILDREN, YOU'RE ALWAYS TRYING TO
  • 00:50:13.030 --> 00:50:15.030
  • TELL THEM WHAT NOT TO DO BECAUSE I DON'T WANT YOU
  • 00:50:15.050 --> 00:50:17.180
  • TO TAKE THE CLASS OVER.
  • 00:50:17.200 --> 00:50:19.110
  • I ALREADY TOOK THE CLASS FOR YOU.
  • 00:50:19.130 --> 00:50:22.030
  • THAT DOESN'T WORK. DON'T TRY THAT.
  • 00:50:22.050 --> 00:50:23.170
  • GO THIS WAY, GO THAT WAY.
  • 00:50:23.190 --> 00:50:25.120
  • AND YET, SOMETIMES, THEY HAVE TO HAVE THEIR OWN
  • 00:50:25.140 --> 00:50:27.080
  • EXPERIENCES TO HAVE THEIR OWN RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD.
  • 00:50:27.100 --> 00:50:30.060
  • BUT I THINK THAT THE WORD IS BEING WRITTEN IN THE
  • 00:50:30.080 --> 00:50:36.230
  • EXPERIENCE OF OUR LIVES EVEN TODAY, THAT IN SOME
  • 00:50:36.250 --> 00:50:41.000
  • WAYS WE ARE THE 67TH BOOK, THAT WE ARE LIVING
  • 00:50:41.020 --> 00:50:44.130
  • EPISTLES, AND THAT GOD WRITING THROUGH THE
  • 00:50:44.150 --> 00:50:46.230
  • SITUATIONS ON OR LIVES BECAUSE WE ARE THE ONLY
  • 00:50:46.250 --> 00:50:51.080
  • BIBLE SOME PEOPLE SEE.
  • 00:50:51.100 --> 00:50:54.150
  • SO SOMETIMES MY TESTIMONY ISN'T SO MUCH ABOUT WHAT
  • 00:50:54.170 --> 00:50:57.010
  • I SAY, BUT YOU WATCHING ME SURVIVE WHAT NOBODY
  • 00:50:57.030 --> 00:51:02.120
  • ELSE WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO SURVIVE.
  • 00:51:02.140 --> 00:51:03.220
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:51:03.240 --> 00:51:05.260
  • THEREBY, BY THIS I KNOW THAT THE LORD IS WITH ME,
  • 00:51:05.280 --> 00:51:09.160
  • FOR HE HAS NOT ALLOWED MY ENEMIES TO TRIUMPH OVER ME.
  • 00:51:09.180 --> 00:51:12.110
  • YEAH, YEAH.
  • 00:51:12.130 --> 00:51:15.060
  • - THAT'S RIGHT. CAN I READ FROM ONE OF MY FAVORITE AUTHORS.
  • 00:51:15.080 --> 00:51:17.070
  • - GO AHEAD, GO AHEAD.
  • 00:51:17.090 --> 00:51:19.060
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:51:19.080 --> 00:51:22.080
  • "IF YOUR LIFE IS SUDDENLY UNSTABLE, AND YOU NOTICE
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  • AN INCREASE IN THE AMOUNT OF MESS AND MANURE PLACED
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  • UPON YOU," THAT'S GREAT, "PAY CLOSE ATTENTION.
  • 00:51:29.100 --> 00:51:34.100
  • IT IS A SIGNAL FROM THE LORD FOR YOU TO LOOK
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  • CAREFULLY FOR THE AREAS WHERE YOUR GROWTH MAY
  • 00:51:37.070 --> 00:51:38.270
  • HAVE STALLED.
  • 00:51:38.290 --> 00:51:41.290
  • THE VINE DRESSER APPLIES AN EXTRA AMOUNT OF DUNG
  • 00:51:42.010 --> 00:51:44.280
  • TO A PLANT THAT STUBBORNLY REFUSES TO
  • 00:51:45.000 --> 00:51:50.260
  • GROW BECAUSE THE MESSES OF LIFE SERVE AS THE
  • 00:51:50.280 --> 00:51:56.070
  • VITAMINS REQUIRED FOR HEALTHY FRUIT."
  • 00:51:56.090 --> 00:51:59.030
  • - YES, SIR, YES, SIR, YES, SIR.
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  • [APPLAUSE]
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  • - WELL, YOU USE KIND LANGUAGE THERE.
  • 00:52:06.080 --> 00:52:10.090
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:52:10.110 --> 00:52:13.280
  • BUT THAT DESCRIBES WHERE SOME OF THE LISTENERS ARE.
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  • - GROWTH IS SMELLY BUSINESS.
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  • GROWTH IS SMELLY BUSINESS.
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  • - IT STINKS.
  • 00:52:22.180 --> 00:52:23.250
  • - YEAH, GROWTH IS SMELLY BUSINESS.
  • 00:52:23.270 --> 00:52:25.150
  • BIRTH IS MESSY BUSINESS.
  • 00:52:25.170 --> 00:52:28.010
  • I USED TO THAT I THAT BABIES WERE BORN, AND
  • 00:52:28.030 --> 00:52:31.040
  • THEY LOOKED LIKE THE GERBER BABIES.
  • 00:52:31.060 --> 00:52:32.290
  • IN THE OLD MOVIES WHEN WE WERE GROWING UP, THE
  • 00:52:33.010 --> 00:52:34.200
  • BABY, THEY JUST PULL THE BABY OUT.
  • 00:52:34.220 --> 00:52:36.210
  • IT LOOKED LIKE THE GERBER BABY, BUT IN REAL LIFE,
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  • BIRTH IS A MESSY BUSINESS.
  • 00:52:39.090 --> 00:52:41.040
  • BIRTH IS A SMELLY BUSINESS, AND BIRTH IS A
  • 00:52:41.060 --> 00:52:43.130
  • PAINFUL BUSINESS, AND BIRTH IS ABOUT PRESSURE
  • 00:52:43.150 --> 00:52:45.280
  • AND PUSHING, AND THE BABY IS BRUISED, AND THE
  • 00:52:46.000 --> 00:52:50.030
  • MOTHER IS WEAK AND WEARY BECAUSE
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  • LIFE IS VALUABLE.
  • 00:52:52.100 --> 00:52:54.270
  • IT COSTS SOMETHING, AND YOU CAN'T HAVE LIFE
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  • WITHOUT LABOR, YOU SEE?
  • 00:52:57.150 --> 00:53:00.180
  • AND THAT'S WHAT MAKES IT -- TO ME, WHAT MAKES IT
  • 00:53:00.200 --> 00:53:05.040
  • VALUABLE IS THE BABY NOW -- IN THE OLD DAYS, THEY
  • 00:53:05.060 --> 00:53:08.020
  • WOULD SALT THE BABY TO HEAL IT FROM THE BIRTHING
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  • PROCESS SO THAT THERE IS A CERTAIN
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  • AMOUNT OF HEALING.
  • 00:53:12.260 --> 00:53:14.200
  • ONE OF THE THINGS I TALK ABOUT -- I'LL JUST
  • 00:53:14.220 --> 00:53:16.150
  • MENTION IT REAL QUICKLY, I KNOW OUR TIME IS ALMOST
  • 00:53:16.170 --> 00:53:18.060
  • OVER -- IS THE PAIN OF RECOVERY.
  • 00:53:18.080 --> 00:53:22.230
  • THERE IS A PAIN ON THIS SIDE OF SURGERY THAT'S
  • 00:53:22.250 --> 00:53:25.160
  • DIFFERENT FROM THE PAIN ON THAT SIDE OF SURGERY.
  • 00:53:25.180 --> 00:53:28.120
  • JUST BECAUSE A SURGERY WAS CORRECT AND EFFECTIVE
  • 00:53:28.140 --> 00:53:32.150
  • DOESN'T MEAN THAT THE PATIENT DOESN'T FEEL
  • 00:53:32.170 --> 00:53:35.020
  • PAIN, THAT IT HURTS TO RECOVER, THAT THERE IS A
  • 00:53:35.040 --> 00:53:38.050
  • PAIN OF RECOVERY.
  • 00:53:38.070 --> 00:53:39.240
  • AND JUST BECAUSE YOU FEEL PAIN DOESN'T MEAN YOU'RE
  • 00:53:39.260 --> 00:53:41.250
  • NOT GETTING BETTER.
  • 00:53:41.270 --> 00:53:43.120
  • - THAT'S TRUE, IN FACT, THAT PAIN IS AN
  • 00:53:43.140 --> 00:53:45.040
  • INDICATION YOU ARE GETTING BETTER.
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  • - ABSOLUTELY, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING TO YOU.
  • 00:53:47.080 --> 00:53:49.240
  • - ANYBODY WHO'S TRIED TO GET IN SHAPE, RIGHT?
  • 00:53:49.260 --> 00:53:51.230
  • KNOWS THAT IT'S NO FUN.
  • 00:53:51.250 --> 00:53:54.060
  • - LET'S NOT EVEN TALK ABOUT THAT. OH, MY GOSH.
  • 00:53:54.080 --> 00:53:58.100
  • - IT HURTS, IT HURTS.
  • 00:53:58.120 --> 00:54:00.120
  • - IT HURTS BECAUSE YOU ARE TEARING MUSCLE, AND
  • 00:54:00.140 --> 00:54:08.160
  • AS THE MUSCLE TEARS, IT EXPANDS, AND ANY TIME
  • 00:54:08.180 --> 00:54:13.180
  • YOU'RE GOING SWELL, IT HURTS TO GROW IN CAPACITY.
  • 00:54:13.200 --> 00:54:18.160
  • SO PEOPLE WHO BECOME THESE VOLUMOUS PEOPLE, IT
  • 00:54:18.180 --> 00:54:22.290
  • COSTS THEM SOMETHING.
  • 00:54:23.010 --> 00:54:24.200
  • - IT COSTS A LOT.
  • 00:54:24.220 --> 00:54:26.110
  • - BE CAREFUL ABOUT ENVYING THEM AND WANTING
  • 00:54:26.130 --> 00:54:28.000
  • TO BE THEM, AND I'M GOING TO BE YOU, AND I'M GOING
  • 00:54:28.020 --> 00:54:30.000
  • TO BE THE NEXT YOU, AND I'M GOING TO HAVE YOUR MANTLE.
  • 00:54:30.020 --> 00:54:32.010
  • YOU CAN'T HAVE MY MANTLE UNTIL YOU'VE
  • 00:54:32.030 --> 00:54:33.220
  • WITHSTOOD MY MISERY.
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  • - THAT'S GOOD, THAT'S GOOD.
  • 00:54:35.160 --> 00:54:39.260
  • I DON'T WANT THAT MISERY.
  • 00:54:39.280 --> 00:54:41.250
  • [LAUGHTER]
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  • WE ARE OUT OF TIME.
  • 00:54:43.190 --> 00:54:46.020
  • - I KNOW.
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  • - OH, MY GOODNESS. I KNEW THIS WOULD HAPPEN. I KNEW IT.
  • 00:54:47.210 --> 00:54:50.050
  • WE'RE JUST WARMING UP.
  • 00:54:50.070 --> 00:54:51.220
  • - YEAH, I KNOW, WE'RE JUST GETTING STARTED.
  • 00:54:51.240 --> 00:54:53.010
  • - WE'RE JUST WARMING UP.
  • 00:54:53.030 --> 00:54:55.000
  • A WORD DO YOU HAVE FOR SOMEBODY WHO IS RIGHT
  • 00:54:55.020 --> 00:54:59.140
  • THERE IN THAT MESS?
  • 00:54:59.160 --> 00:55:01.230
  • - I WANT TO SAY TO YOU THAT IF ARE IN THAT
  • 00:55:01.250 --> 00:55:07.100
  • CRUSHING, I HAVE BEEN THERE PHYSICALLY,
  • 00:55:07.120 --> 00:55:10.290
  • EMOTIONALLY, SPIRITUALLY, FINANCIALLY, IN EVERY
  • 00:55:11.010 --> 00:55:14.260
  • ASPECT OF MY LIFE.
  • 00:55:14.280 --> 00:55:17.040
  • I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND SOMETHING, THAT WHETHER
  • 00:55:17.060 --> 00:55:20.130
  • THE LORD SCOOPED DONE INTO THE GROUND AND PULLS
  • 00:55:20.150 --> 00:55:25.020
  • UP CLAY OR SET IT ON A WHEEL AND STARTED
  • 00:55:25.040 --> 00:55:27.280
  • SPINNING IT OR PUSHED IN ON IT WITH PRESSURE AND
  • 00:55:28.000 --> 00:55:32.170
  • STARTED SQUEEZING IT OR SET IT ON A CURIO AFTER
  • 00:55:32.190 --> 00:55:37.150
  • HE HAD FIRED IT, THAT REGARDLESS OF WHATEVER
  • 00:55:37.170 --> 00:55:40.210
  • STAGE IT WAS IN, IT WAS ALL IN HIS HAND.
  • 00:55:40.230 --> 00:55:43.080
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:55:43.100 --> 00:55:45.290
  • AND I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT WHATEVER STAGE
  • 00:55:46.010 --> 00:55:49.020
  • YOU'RE IN RIGHT NOW, YOU ARE STILL IN HIS HANDS.
  • 00:55:49.040 --> 00:55:51.210
  • - AMEN, AMEN.
  • 00:55:51.230 --> 00:55:53.220
  • - HE LOVES YOU.
  • 00:55:53.240 --> 00:55:55.020
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:55:55.040 --> 00:55:58.250
  • HE CARES ABOUT YOU, AND WHEN IT IS ALL OVER, HE
  • 00:55:58.270 --> 00:56:01.260
  • WILL TAKE WHAT WAS SEEMINGLY A CRUSHING
  • 00:56:01.280 --> 00:56:06.090
  • MOMENT TO PRODUCE SOMETHING IN YOU THAT IS
  • 00:56:06.110 --> 00:56:10.130
  • SO [BREATHING IN] DISTINGUISHED, SO FRESH,
  • 00:56:10.150 --> 00:56:15.070
  • SO NEW THAT CHRIST SAID, "I WILL NOT DRINK ANYMORE
  • 00:56:15.090 --> 00:56:18.140
  • WINE UNTIL DRINK ANEW WITH YOU IN THE KINGDOM
  • 00:56:18.160 --> 00:56:25.250
  • OF GOD." SO I GOTTA BE THERE BECAUSE HE TOLD ME,
  • 00:56:25.270 --> 00:56:29.120
  • I'M SAVING THE NEXT GLASS FOR US TOGETHER.
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  • IT'S GOING TO BE ALL RIGHT.
  • 00:56:32.200 --> 00:56:34.180
  • [APPLAUSE]
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  • - ON BEHALF OF THE TENS, HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF
  • 00:56:42.200 --> 00:56:48.080
  • US WHO HAVE LEARNED FROM YOU ALL THESE MANY, MANY
  • 00:56:48.100 --> 00:56:51.190
  • YEARS, GOD BLESS YOU.
  • 00:56:51.210 --> 00:56:53.160
  • - GOD BLESS YOU. - GOD BLESS YOUR FAMILY.
  • 00:56:53.180 --> 00:56:55.170
  • - THANK YOU.
  • 00:56:55.190 --> 00:56:57.240
  • - GOD BLESS YOUR FRUIT AND YOUR BEST DAYS ARE AHEAD.
  • 00:56:57.260 --> 00:56:59.130
  • - THANK YOU VERY MUCH. - THANK YOU.
  • 00:56:59.150 --> 00:57:01.180
  • [APPLAUSE]
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  • [MUSIC]
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  • [MUSIC]
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