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Praise | Lysa TerKeurst | 12/3/18

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December 3, 2018
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Chad Veach hosts Lysa TerKeurst.

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Praise | Lysa TerKeurst | 12/3/18

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  • - MALE ANNOUNCER: TONIGHT ON
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  • "PRAISE" FROM LOS ANGELES --
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  • AUTHOR, SPEAKER, AND PRESIDENT
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  • OF PROVERBS 31 MINISTRIES,
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  • AND NOW, CHAD VEACH.
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  • - CHAD VEACH: WELCOME,
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  • EVERYBODY.
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  • UH, WE HAVE A SPECIAL PROGRAM
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  • LINED UP FOR YOU TODAY.
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  • AND WE HAVE A SPECIAL PROGRAM
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  • BECAUSE WE HAVE AN INCREDIBLY
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  • SPECIAL GUEST I HAVE JOINING ME
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  • SHE IS AN AUTHOR, SHE IS A
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  • SPEAKER, SHE IS OUTRAGEOUSLY
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  • AMAZING.
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  • UH, PLEASE PUT YOUR HANDS
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  • TOGETHER AND WELCOME--
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  • LYSA TERKEURST IS ON THE
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  • PROGRAM.
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  • [APPLAUSE, CHEERS]
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  • THANK YOU SO MUCH.
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  • [APPLAUSE, CHEERS]
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  • I HAVE TO BE HONEST.
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  • I WAS SO EXCITED TO COME
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  • AND HANG OUT WITH YOU TODAY,
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  • UH, MAINLY BECAUSE I JUST THINK
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  • THE WORLD OF YOU.
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  • - LYSA TERKEURST: THANK YOU.
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  • - CHAD: YOU ARE UNBELIEVABLE.
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  • I HAVE LEARNED SO MUCH FROM YOU
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  • AND HAVE THE UTMOST RESPECT FOR
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  • YOU WHO ARE AND WHAT YOU'VE
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  • DONE.
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  • AND I CAN'T WAIT TO TALK ABOUT
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  • YOUR NEW BOOK.
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  • - LYSA: THANK YOU, CHAD.
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  • YOU'RE A DEAR FRIEND IN
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  • AND SO, I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE
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  • AWESOME JUST TO HAVE A
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  • CONVERSATION WITH YOU
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  • AND JUST CHAT
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  • AND CATCH UP.
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  • WE CAN PROCESS YOUR NEW BOOK,
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  • - CHAD: OH, YEAH.
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  • [LAUGHTER]
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  • WELL, I WANNA GET TO MY BOOK IN
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  • A LITTLE BIT...
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  • NO.
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  • [LAUGHTER]
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  • THIS IS ABOUT YOU, TONIGHT.
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  • AND THIS IS ABOUT YOUR NEW
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  • BOOK.
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  • BUT, I JUST WANNA START THE
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  • WHOLE, UH, PROGRAM BY JUST
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  • SAYING, UH, I CELEBRATE YOUR
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  • ACCOMPLISHMENT.
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  • MANY PEOPLE MIGHT NOT KNOW YET,
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  • BUT THE BOOK HAS ALREADY GONE
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  • NEW YORK TIMES BESTSELLER.
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  • COME ON, I MEAN...
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  • [APPLAUSE, CHEERS]
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  • [LYSA LAUGHS]
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  • IT'S BEEN OUT A WEEK AND IT'S
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  • ALREADY--
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  • - CHAD: WHICH DOESN'T SURPRISE
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  • ME.
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  • BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT
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  • I LOVE ABOUT YOU IS THAT YOU'VE
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  • THROWN, REALLY, YOUR LIFE INTO
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  • YOUR PASSION, WHICH IS WRITIN'
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  • BOOKS, HELPING PEOPLE, SERVING
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  • PEOPLE.
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  • I'M SO THANKFUL FOR YOUR LIFE
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  • AND YOUR MINISTRY.
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  • - LYSA: THANK YOU.
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  • WELL, THIS NEW BOOK, "IT'S NOT
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  • SUPPOSED TO BE THIS WAY," IS
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  • NOT A BOOK I EVER WANTED TO
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  • WRITE BECAUSE IT'S NOT A
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  • MESSAGE I EVER WANTED TO LIVE.
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  • AND SO, THIS REALLY ISN'T, FOR
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  • ME, JUST ANOTHER BOOK IN A LONG
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  • STRING OF BOOKS.
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  • IT'S NOT JUST THE-- THE MESSAGE
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  • THAT CAME OUT BECAUSE I LIKE TO
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  • WRITE...YOU KNOW?
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  • - CHAD: RIGHT.
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  • - LYSA: IT WAS BIRTHED FROM
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  • I FEEL LIKE THIS BOOK REALLY IS
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  • MY HEART SPILLED OUT ONTO THE
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  • PAGES OF, UM, WHAT I HOPE WILL
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  • BE A TURNING POINT OF HOPE IN
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  • SOMEONE'S LIFE.
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  • - CHAD: MMH.
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  • - LYSA: BECAUSE THE REALITY
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  • IS WE ALL GO THROUGH
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  • DISAPPOINTMENTS.
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  • UM...AND THEY'RE VARYING
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  • DEGREES.
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  • AND--
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  • - CHAD: SURE.
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  • - LYSA: --THIS BOOK REALLY
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  • RUNS THE GAMUT OF
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  • DISAPPOINTMENT ALL THE WAY TO
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  • AND, WHAT DO WE DO?
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  • WHAT DO WE DO WHEN WE LOVE THE
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  • LORD AND WE KNOW WE'RE SUPPOSED
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  • TO BE HAPPY, BE JOYFUL,
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  • UM...YOU KNOW, PICK UP-- PICK
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  • OURSELVES UP, AND TRUST IN GOD,
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  • AND SING THE SONGS, AND WRAP
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  • OUR ARMS AROUND EACH OTHER AS
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  • WE SING "KUMBAYA."
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  • WE KNOW ALL OF THAT.
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  • - CHAD: RIGHT.
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  • - LYSA: AND I DO BELIEVE, AS
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  • CHRISTIANS, WE'RE SUPPOSED
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  • TO...SING THE PRAISE SONGS, BE
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  • JOYFUL, SING "KUMBAYA" -- ALL
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  • OF THE STUFF, RIGHT?
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  • BUT I ALSO THINK THERE'S A
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  • HEALTHY PLACE TO PROCESS THE
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  • DISAPPOINTMENTS THAT WE ALL ARE
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  • WALKING THROUGH.
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  • SO, I PRAY THIS MESSAGE IS A
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  • SAFE PLACE FOR US TO PROCESS
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  • THOSE.
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  • - CHAD: I LOVE THAT.
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  • I LOVE THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU
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  • CREATE THAT SAFE SPACE.
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  • BECAUSE THAT'S KIND OF HOW YOU
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  • LEAD YOUR MINISTRY AND HOW
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  • YOU'VE IMPACTED SO MANY PEOPLE
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  • IS CREATING A CONVERSATION
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  • THROUGH YOUR VULNERABILITY OF
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  • SHARING YOUR LIFE EXAMPLE.
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  • SO, I WANNA GET INTO THE BOOK.
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  • BUT, I FEEL LIKE EVERYONE NEEDS
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  • TO REALLY KNOW WHO YOU ARE, SO
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  • I WANNA ROLL A TAPE SO
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  • EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THE
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  • MAGNITUDE OF THE IMPACT THAT
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  • YOU'RE HAVING, WHICH IS JUST
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  • TREMENDOUS.
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  • SO, CHECK THIS OUT.
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  • [MUSIC]
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  • - FEMALE ANNOUNCER: SHE'S A
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  • STRAIGHT SHOOTER WHO MEETS
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  • WOMEN RIGHT WHERE THEY ARE --
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  • IN THE HARD PLACES OF LIFE.
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  • LYSA TERKEURST WILL BE THE
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  • FIRST TO ADMIT SHE'S TRAVERSED
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  • SOME PRETTY TOUGH ROADS
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  • - LYSA: IF WE WERE HONEST, ALL
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  • OF US ARE GOING THROUGH
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  • SOMETHING THAT'S CAUSING US
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  • - FEMALE ANNOUNCER: SHE'S
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  • LEARNED TO FIGHT LIFE'S
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  • BATTLES HEAD-ON, WITH AN ARMY
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  • AS PRESIDENT OF PROVERBS 31
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  • LYSA AND HER TEAM
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  • LEAD THOUSANDS ON A
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  • INVIGORATING SPIRITUAL
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  • JOURNEY,
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  • THROUGH DAILY ONLINE
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  • DEVOTIONALS, RADIO PROGRAMS,
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  • ONLINE BIBLE STUDIES, AND MORE.
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  • THE NEW YORK TIMES BESTSELLING
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  • AUTHOR HAS TAKEN WOMEN ON AN
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  • ADVENTURE OF FAITH WITH SEVERAL
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  • OF HER BOOKS, INCLUDING
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  • "UNINVITED," "THE BEST YES,"
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  • AND "UNGLUED."
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  • LYSA, RECOGNIZED AS THE
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  • CHAMPIONS OF FAITH AUTHOR,
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  • HAS BEEN PUBLISHED IN MULTIPLE
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  • PUBLICATIONS, SUCH AS
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  • "FOCUS ON THE FAMILY"
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  • AND CNN ONLINE.
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  • SHE HAS ALSO APPEARED ON THE
  • 00:05:02.280 --> 00:05:04.000
  • "TODAY" SHOW AS A LEADING VOICE
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  • IN THE CHRISTIAN COMMUNITY.
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  • EACH YEAR, LYSA IS A FEATURED
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  • KEYNOTE PRESENTER AT MORE THAN
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  • 40 EVENTS ACROSS NORTH AMERICA,
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  • INCLUDING THE WOMEN OF JOY
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  • CONFERENCES AND THE CATALYST
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  • LEADERSHIP CONFERENCE.
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  • SHE SERVES WITH A PASSION TO
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  • EQUIP WOMEN TO SHARE THEIR
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  • STORIES FOR GOD'S GLORY.
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  • - LYSA: I DON'T REALLY WANNA
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  • BE LIKE SOME BIG FANCY SPEAKER
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  • BECAUSE...I JUST WANNA HAVE A
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  • - FEMALE ANNOUNCER:
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  • LYSA TERKEURST.
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  • [APPLAUSE, CHEERS]
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  • - CHAD: I JUST-- I WANTED
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  • PEOPLE TO KNOW...I WANTED
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  • PEOPLE TO KNOW EXACTLY WHO'S
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  • TALKIN' TO THEM TONIGHT.
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  • AND, OBVIOUSLY, WE'RE TALKIN'
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  • ABOUT THE BOOK, "IT'S NOT
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  • AND, UH-- WHICH, BY THE WAY, I
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  • JUST TOLD YOU A MINUTE AGO, BUT
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  • I LOVE THE COVER.
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  • - LYSA: THANK YOU.
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  • - CHAD: YOU ALWAYS HAVE THE
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  • BEST TITLES AND THE BEST
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  • COVERS.
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  • [LYSA LAUGHS]
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  • - CHAD: BUT I WANTED-- AND, BY
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  • THE WAY, IF YOU WANNA PICK UP
  • 00:05:58.250 --> 00:05:59.240
  • THIS BOOK, JUST RIGHT THERE,
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  • UNDERNEATH WHERE I'M POINTING,
  • 00:06:01.140 --> 00:06:02.280
  • DIAL IN THAT NUMBER AND WE'D
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  • LOVE TO MAKE SURE YOU GET A
  • 00:06:05.150 --> 00:06:06.100
  • COPY OF THIS AMAZING BOOK.
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  • BUT I WANNA TALK.
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  • TELL ME ABOUT THE STORY OF THIS
  • 00:06:09.270 --> 00:06:10.190
  • BOOK, "IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE
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  • THIS WAY."
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  • HOW DID YOU COME TO
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  • WRITE THIS ONE?
  • 00:06:14.000 --> 00:06:14.270
  • - LYSA: WELL...ALL OF MY BOOKS
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  • START WITH AN EXPERIENCE THAT I
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  • HAVE, UM, AND, USUALLY, IT'S
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  • SOMETHING THAT I'VE ALREADY
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  • EXPERIENCED, I'VE WALKED
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  • THROUGH, AND THEN THE LORD HAS
  • 00:06:26.060 --> 00:06:27.230
  • TAUGHT ME A BUNCH OF LESSONS.
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  • SO, USUALLY, MY BOOKS ARE ME
  • 00:06:29.150 --> 00:06:30.150
  • REFLECTING BACK ABOUT THE
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  • EXPERIENCES I'VE HAD, THE
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  • LESSONS I'VE LEARNED, WHAT
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  • GOD'S TAUGHT ME, BECAUSE I FEEL
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  • LIKE THAT'LL HELP OTHER PEOPLE.
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  • UM, THIS BOOK WAS DIFFERENT.
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  • - CHAD: MMH.
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  • - LYSA: THIS BOOK WAS WRITTEN
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  • AS A MATTER OF FACT, WHEN I
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  • FIRST STARTED WRITING THIS
  • 00:06:47.010 --> 00:06:48.050
  • BOOK, I DIDN'T KNOW HOW MY
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  • STORY WAS GONNA TURN OUT.
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  • SOME PRETTY BIG THINGS
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  • HAPPENED IN THE WRITING OF THIS
  • 00:06:53.140 --> 00:06:54.060
  • BOOK.
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  • AND SO, IT IS IN REAL TIME.
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  • SO, AS PEOPLE ARE READING THIS,
  • 00:06:59.160 --> 00:07:01.120
  • AT THE BEGINNING OF THE BOOK,
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  • YOU DON'T KNOW OF A CERTAIN
  • 00:07:03.210 --> 00:07:05.190
  • MEDICAL DIAGNOSIS THAT I'M
  • 00:07:05.190 --> 00:07:06.080
  • GONNA GET.
  • 00:07:06.080 --> 00:07:07.180
  • WELL, I DIDN'T, EITHER.
  • 00:07:07.180 --> 00:07:08.210
  • - CHAD: WOW.
  • 00:07:08.210 --> 00:07:09.080
  • - LYSA: AND SO, AS THE PAGES
  • 00:07:09.080 --> 00:07:10.190
  • UNFOLD, IT REALLY IS MY
  • 00:07:10.190 --> 00:07:12.010
  • REAL-TIME JOURNEY WITH GOD.
  • 00:07:12.010 --> 00:07:14.170
  • AND WHEN I TALK ABOUT LAYING IN
  • 00:07:14.170 --> 00:07:16.170
  • BED IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT
  • 00:07:16.170 --> 00:07:17.280
  • AT 2 AM, WEEPING, FEELING LIKE
  • 00:07:17.280 --> 00:07:20.190
  • I CAN'T QUITE GRASP HOW TO
  • 00:07:21.090 --> 00:07:24.090
  • SURVIVE THIS...
  • 00:07:24.090 --> 00:07:25.220
  • - CHAD: MMH.
  • 00:07:25.220 --> 00:07:26.230
  • - LYSA: ...AND MY PRAYERS WERE
  • 00:07:26.230 --> 00:07:28.010
  • REDUCED TO, "JESUS, I LOVE YOU
  • 00:07:28.010 --> 00:07:29.000
  • AND YOU LOVE ME," AND I WOULD
  • 00:07:29.000 --> 00:07:30.170
  • SAY IT OVER AND OVER AND OVER--
  • 00:07:30.170 --> 00:07:31.160
  • - CHAD: WOW.
  • 00:07:31.160 --> 00:07:32.280
  • - LYSA: LIKE, WHEN YOU'RE IN
  • 00:07:32.280 --> 00:07:33.190
  • THAT PLACE, AND YOU'RE WRITING
  • 00:07:33.190 --> 00:07:35.230
  • FROM THAT PLACE, THE READER
  • 00:07:35.230 --> 00:07:37.280
  • WILL BE INVITED INTO THE
  • 00:07:37.280 --> 00:07:40.270
  • REALITY OF HOW HARD LIFE CAN BE
  • 00:07:41.020 --> 00:07:44.020
  • SOMETIMES.
  • 00:07:44.020 --> 00:07:45.010
  • - CHAD: RIGHT.
  • 00:07:45.010 --> 00:07:45.220
  • - LYSA: AND I DON'T THINK
  • 00:07:45.220 --> 00:07:46.240
  • ANYBODY WILL BE ABLE TO SAY
  • 00:07:46.240 --> 00:07:48.080
  • WITH THIS BOOK, "WELL, LYSA
  • 00:07:48.080 --> 00:07:49.200
  • COULD NEVER POSSIBLY UNDERSTAND
  • 00:07:49.200 --> 00:07:51.230
  • THE DEPTH OF PAIN THAT I'M
  • 00:07:51.230 --> 00:07:53.000
  • WALKING THROUGH."
  • 00:07:53.000 --> 00:07:55.000
  • BECAUSE, I THINK WITH THIS BOOK
  • 00:07:55.000 --> 00:07:56.160
  • I INVITE THE READER INTO MY
  • 00:07:56.160 --> 00:07:58.150
  • MESSY MIDDLE.
  • 00:07:58.190 --> 00:08:01.210
  • AND, UM-- BUT ALWAYS, ALWAYS
  • 00:08:01.210 --> 00:08:04.030
  • POINTING TO THE HOPE THAT WE
  • 00:08:04.030 --> 00:08:07.000
  • HAVE, EVEN IN THAT MIDDLE
  • 00:08:07.000 --> 00:08:08.090
  • PLACE...
  • 00:08:08.090 --> 00:08:08.230
  • - CHAD: GREAT.
  • 00:08:08.230 --> 00:08:10.000
  • - LYSA: ...THE HOPE THAT WE
  • 00:08:10.000 --> 00:08:10.200
  • HAVE IN JESUS.
  • 00:08:10.200 --> 00:08:11.130
  • SO, THIS WAS THE HARDEST BOOK
  • 00:08:11.130 --> 00:08:12.200
  • TO WRITE BECAUSE IT WAS THE
  • 00:08:12.200 --> 00:08:13.270
  • HARDEST MESSAGE TO LIVE.
  • 00:08:13.270 --> 00:08:15.260
  • - CHAD: WOW.
  • 00:08:15.260 --> 00:08:17.040
  • AND, SO, YOU'RE WRITING THIS
  • 00:08:17.040 --> 00:08:18.290
  • AND WAS THERE-- AS YOU'RE
  • 00:08:18.290 --> 00:08:21.070
  • DEVELOPING, YOU KNOW, CHAPTER
  • 00:08:21.070 --> 00:08:22.240
  • BY CHAPTER, ARE YOU SURPRISED
  • 00:08:22.240 --> 00:08:24.270
  • WITH WHAT CAME OUT OF YOU?
  • 00:08:24.270 --> 00:08:27.110
  • ARE YOU DISCOVERING NEW LAYER--
  • 00:08:27.140 --> 00:08:30.140
  • - LYSA: YES.
  • 00:08:30.140 --> 00:08:31.050
  • - CHAD: LIKE YOU SAID,
  • 00:08:31.050 --> 00:08:31.230
  • YOU'VE NEVER EXPERIENCED THIS
  • 00:08:31.230 --> 00:08:32.180
  • BEFORE.
  • 00:08:32.200 --> 00:08:35.200
  • THE DEPTH OF PAIN;
  • 00:08:35.200 --> 00:08:36.110
  • BUT, THEN AGAIN, WHEN YOU GO
  • 00:08:36.110 --> 00:08:37.130
  • THROUGH THINGS LIKE THIS, THE
  • 00:08:37.130 --> 00:08:38.100
  • DEPTH OF HOPE AND JESUS BEING
  • 00:08:38.100 --> 00:08:40.230
  • REVEALED IN YOUR LIFE.
  • 00:08:40.230 --> 00:08:42.120
  • TALK TO ME ABOUT WHAT IT WAS
  • 00:08:42.120 --> 00:08:43.220
  • LIKE TO GO TO THAT DARK PLACE
  • 00:08:43.220 --> 00:08:44.260
  • AND FIND LIGHT IN THAT DARK, SO
  • 00:08:44.260 --> 00:08:46.140
  • TO SPEAK.
  • 00:08:46.140 --> 00:08:47.150
  • - LYSA: WELL, PART OF THE
  • 00:08:47.150 --> 00:08:49.100
  • BOOK TALKS ABOUT A
  • 00:08:49.100 --> 00:08:50.220
  • SITUATION THAT I WAS WALKING
  • 00:08:53.160 --> 00:08:56.160
  • THROUGH WITH MY HUSBAND, ART.
  • 00:08:56.160 --> 00:08:57.270
  • AND, IN FEBRUARY OF 2016, I
  • 00:08:57.270 --> 00:09:00.080
  • FOUND OUT THAT HE WAS
  • 00:09:04.010 --> 00:09:07.010
  • HAVING AN AFFAIR.
  • 00:09:07.010 --> 00:09:07.200
  • AND, IT ROCKED ME TO MY CORE.
  • 00:09:07.200 --> 00:09:08.260
  • I REALLY-- I HONESTLY CAN'T
  • 00:09:08.260 --> 00:09:10.130
  • EVEN-- STILL, NOW, TO THIS DAY,
  • 00:09:10.130 --> 00:09:12.080
  • I CAN'T EVEN PUT INTO WORDS
  • 00:09:12.080 --> 00:09:14.110
  • WHAT, UM...WHAT LEVEL OF SHOCK
  • 00:09:14.110 --> 00:09:15.200
  • I WAS WALKING THROUGH.
  • 00:09:15.200 --> 00:09:17.290
  • SO, I REMEMBER PART OF THE
  • 00:09:18.270 --> 00:09:21.270
  • JOURNEY THAT I HAD TO GO
  • 00:09:21.270 --> 00:09:24.060
  • THROUGH, WITHOUT KNOWING
  • 00:09:24.060 --> 00:09:26.030
  • WHETHER WE WERE GOING TO
  • 00:09:26.030 --> 00:09:27.070
  • RECONCILE OR NOT.
  • 00:09:27.070 --> 00:09:29.030
  • I NEEDED TO PURSUE REDEMPTION.
  • 00:09:29.030 --> 00:09:30.160
  • AND I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT
  • 00:09:30.160 --> 00:09:32.100
  • POINT FOR PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND
  • 00:09:33.040 --> 00:09:36.040
  • IS THAT REDEMPTION AND
  • 00:09:36.040 --> 00:09:37.090
  • RECONCILIATION DON'T HAVE TO
  • 00:09:37.090 --> 00:09:37.290
  • HOLD HANDS.
  • 00:09:37.290 --> 00:09:38.210
  • - CHAD: MMH.
  • 00:09:38.210 --> 00:09:39.050
  • - LYSA: SO, RECONCILIATION
  • 00:09:39.050 --> 00:09:41.050
  • DEPENDS ON ANOTHER PERSON BEING
  • 00:09:41.050 --> 00:09:42.160
  • REPENTANT AND MAKING CHOICES
  • 00:09:42.160 --> 00:09:44.040
  • THAT LEAD TO A RECONCILIATION.
  • 00:09:44.100 --> 00:09:47.100
  • AND THAT'S WHAT CAN BE SO
  • 00:09:47.100 --> 00:09:48.200
  • FRUSTRATING.
  • 00:09:48.200 --> 00:09:49.220
  • WHEN YOU'RE IN THE MESSY MIDDLE
  • 00:09:49.220 --> 00:09:50.290
  • PLACE OF SAYING, "IT'S NOT
  • 00:09:50.290 --> 00:09:52.170
  • SUPPOSED TO BE THIS WAY, BUT
  • 00:09:52.170 --> 00:09:53.210
  • HOW DO I GET OUT OF IT?" YOU
  • 00:09:53.210 --> 00:09:55.060
  • KNOW, IT CAN FEEL LIKE THE ONLY
  • 00:09:55.060 --> 00:09:57.000
  • WAY TO RECONC-- THE ONLY WAY TO
  • 00:09:57.000 --> 00:09:58.270
  • REDEMPTION WITH GOD IS
  • 00:09:58.270 --> 00:10:00.020
  • RECONCILIATION.
  • 00:10:00.020 --> 00:10:00.210
  • THAT'S NOT TRUE.
  • 00:10:00.210 --> 00:10:01.230
  • YOU CAN HAVE ABSOLUTE
  • 00:10:01.230 --> 00:10:03.220
  • REDEMPTION WITH GOD.
  • 00:10:03.220 --> 00:10:05.080
  • YOU CAN PURSUE REDEMPTION WITH
  • 00:10:05.080 --> 00:10:06.130
  • GOD, EVEN IF THE RECONCILIATION
  • 00:10:06.130 --> 00:10:07.260
  • NEVER HAPPENS.
  • 00:10:07.260 --> 00:10:08.210
  • THAT'S ONE CHOICE AWAY.
  • 00:10:08.210 --> 00:10:10.030
  • THAT'S JUST SAYING: GOD, YOU
  • 00:10:10.030 --> 00:10:11.130
  • ARE A REDEEMER.
  • 00:10:11.130 --> 00:10:12.290
  • - CHAD: RIGHT.
  • 00:10:12.290 --> 00:10:13.180
  • - LYSA: AND I NEED YOU TO
  • 00:10:13.180 --> 00:10:14.130
  • REDEEM ME, IN THE MIDDLE OF
  • 00:10:14.130 --> 00:10:15.190
  • THIS.
  • 00:10:15.190 --> 00:10:16.190
  • AND SO, UM, I REMEMBER I WAS
  • 00:10:16.190 --> 00:10:18.240
  • PURSUING THAT REDEMPTION WITH
  • 00:10:18.240 --> 00:10:19.240
  • GOD.
  • 00:10:19.240 --> 00:10:21.130
  • AND PART OF THAT WAS TO WRITE
  • 00:10:21.130 --> 00:10:23.010
  • AN IMPACT LETTER TO FORGIVE MY
  • 00:10:23.010 --> 00:10:24.200
  • HUSBAND FOR WHAT HAD HAPPENED.
  • 00:10:24.220 --> 00:10:27.220
  • AND, UM, WITH FORGIVENESS, IT'S
  • 00:10:27.220 --> 00:10:30.070
  • HARD.
  • 00:10:30.070 --> 00:10:31.100
  • BECAUSE, THERE'S LAYERS TO
  • 00:10:31.100 --> 00:10:33.090
  • FORGIVENESS.
  • 00:10:33.090 --> 00:10:35.020
  • AS CHRISTIANS, WE KNOW WE'RE
  • 00:10:35.020 --> 00:10:36.260
  • SUPPOSED TO FORGIVE.
  • 00:10:36.260 --> 00:10:37.130
  • - CHAD: YEP.
  • 00:10:37.130 --> 00:10:38.030
  • - LYSA: BUT, UH, FOR ME, I
  • 00:10:38.030 --> 00:10:40.010
  • COULD FORGIVE THE FACTS OF WHAT
  • 00:10:40.010 --> 00:10:40.230
  • HAPPENED.
  • 00:10:40.230 --> 00:10:41.080
  • THAT WAS THE EASIER PART OF
  • 00:10:41.080 --> 00:10:42.050
  • FORGIVENESS.
  • 00:10:42.050 --> 00:10:42.190
  • WHAT WAS HARDER IS FORGIVING
  • 00:10:42.190 --> 00:10:43.100
  • THE IMPACT THAT ALL OF THAT HAD
  • 00:10:43.100 --> 00:10:45.100
  • ON ME.
  • 00:10:45.100 --> 00:10:46.090
  • - CHAD: SURE.
  • 00:10:46.090 --> 00:10:46.250
  • - LYSA: I NEVER STRUGGLED WITH
  • 00:10:46.250 --> 00:10:47.260
  • ANXIETY.
  • 00:10:47.260 --> 00:10:48.090
  • AND NOW, ALL OF A SUDDEN, I'M
  • 00:10:48.090 --> 00:10:49.280
  • IN A SITUATION THAT I AM MORE
  • 00:10:49.280 --> 00:10:51.160
  • ANXIOUS THAN EVER BEFORE.
  • 00:10:51.160 --> 00:10:52.220
  • SO, I WAS WRITING THIS IMPACT
  • 00:10:52.220 --> 00:10:54.290
  • LETTER AND I REMEMBER I WROTE
  • 00:10:54.290 --> 00:10:56.180
  • DOWN, UM, "I HAVEN'T JUST BEEN
  • 00:10:56.180 --> 00:10:59.070
  • BROKEN INTO PIECES; I HAVE BEEN
  • 00:10:59.070 --> 00:11:01.040
  • SHATTERED."
  • 00:11:01.040 --> 00:11:03.240
  • AND, YOU KNOW, WHEN-- WHEN
  • 00:11:03.240 --> 00:11:05.180
  • BROKENNESS HAPPENS, THERE'S A
  • 00:11:05.180 --> 00:11:07.050
  • WONDERFUL CHRISTIAN PICTURE
  • 00:11:07.050 --> 00:11:09.230
  • THAT WE HAVE IN OUR BRAIN OF,
  • 00:11:09.230 --> 00:11:11.050
  • LIKE, PICKING UP THE BROKEN
  • 00:11:11.050 --> 00:11:12.040
  • PIECES, GLUING THEM BACK
  • 00:11:12.040 --> 00:11:13.190
  • TOGETHER, AND GOD'S LIGHT CAN
  • 00:11:13.190 --> 00:11:14.120
  • SHINE THROUGH THAT BROKENNESS.
  • 00:11:14.120 --> 00:11:15.250
  • AND, YEA -- YOU KNOW, SING A
  • 00:11:15.250 --> 00:11:16.150
  • PRAISE SONG AND CUE--
  • 00:11:16.150 --> 00:11:19.030
  • - CHAD: RIGHT, RIGHT...RIGHT.
  • 00:11:19.030 --> 00:11:20.100
  • - LYSA: --CUE THE, LIKE,
  • 00:11:20.100 --> 00:11:22.240
  • TICKERTAPE PARADE, RIGHT?
  • 00:11:22.240 --> 00:11:23.240
  • - CHAD: SURE, SURE, SURE.
  • 00:11:23.240 --> 00:11:24.200
  • - LYSA: BUT THAT WASN'T MY
  • 00:11:24.200 --> 00:11:25.100
  • STORY.
  • 00:11:25.100 --> 00:11:25.230
  • I LOOKED AROUND AND I DIDN'T
  • 00:11:25.230 --> 00:11:26.130
  • SEE BROKEN PIECES TO GLUE BACK
  • 00:11:26.130 --> 00:11:27.040
  • TOGETHER.
  • 00:11:27.040 --> 00:11:28.070
  • I SAW NOTHING BUT DUST.
  • 00:11:28.070 --> 00:11:29.150
  • I WAS THAT SHATTERED.
  • 00:11:29.150 --> 00:11:30.170
  • - CHAD: JEEZ.
  • 00:11:30.170 --> 00:11:31.190
  • - LYSA: SO, I'M WRITING THIS
  • 00:11:31.190 --> 00:11:33.010
  • LETTER, AND, ALL OF A SUDDEN, I
  • 00:11:33.150 --> 00:11:36.150
  • REMEMBERED GENESIS-- IN GENESIS
  • 00:11:36.150 --> 00:11:37.250
  • 2 THAT GOD, OF ALL THE
  • 00:11:37.280 --> 00:11:40.280
  • INGREDIENTS IN THE WORLD -- HE
  • 00:11:40.280 --> 00:11:42.100
  • HAD ACCESS TO EVERYTHING -- HE
  • 00:11:42.100 --> 00:11:43.180
  • CHOSE DUST TO USE TO MAKE HIS
  • 00:11:44.230 --> 00:11:47.230
  • FAVORITE CREATION, MANKIND.
  • 00:11:47.230 --> 00:11:50.220
  • AND SO, HE PICKS UP THE DUST
  • 00:11:53.010 --> 00:11:56.010
  • AND HE BREATHES INTO IT.
  • 00:11:56.010 --> 00:11:56.250
  • AND SO, THE LETTER-- THE IMPACT
  • 00:11:56.250 --> 00:11:57.210
  • LETTER TOOK A DRAMATIC TURN.
  • 00:11:57.210 --> 00:11:58.110
  • AND INSTEAD OF ME ENDING WITH
  • 00:11:58.110 --> 00:11:59.110
  • HOW SHATTERED I WAS, I ENDED
  • 00:11:59.110 --> 00:12:00.030
  • WITH SAYING: "DUST DOESN'T
  • 00:12:00.030 --> 00:12:01.100
  • SIGNIFY AN END.
  • 00:12:02.050 --> 00:12:05.050
  • WITH GOD"--
  • 00:12:05.050 --> 00:12:07.050
  • - CHAD: WOW.
  • 00:12:07.050 --> 00:12:09.210
  • - LYSA: --"DUST IS OFTEN WHAT
  • 00:12:09.210 --> 00:12:10.120
  • MUST BE PRESENT FOR A BRAND-NEW
  • 00:12:10.120 --> 00:12:11.040
  • TO BEGIN."
  • 00:12:11.040 --> 00:12:11.150
  • - CHAD: WOW...
  • 00:12:11.150 --> 00:12:12.110
  • - LYSA: AND I REMEMBER...THOSE
  • 00:12:12.110 --> 00:12:13.030
  • ARE THE KIND OF MOMENTS THAT I
  • 00:12:13.030 --> 00:12:13.240
  • HAD.
  • 00:12:13.240 --> 00:12:14.020
  • AND THAT'S WHAT'S RECORDED IN
  • 00:12:14.020 --> 00:12:16.060
  • THIS BOOK.
  • 00:12:16.060 --> 00:12:17.040
  • - CHAD: BEAUTIFUL.
  • 00:12:17.040 --> 00:12:17.200
  • - LYSA: IT'S-- IT'S THE DEPTH
  • 00:12:17.200 --> 00:12:18.110
  • OF PAIN...
  • 00:12:18.110 --> 00:12:18.280
  • - LYSA: ...BUT, ALSO, THE
  • 00:12:20.290 --> 00:12:21.180
  • MAGNITUDE OF THE PRESENCE OF
  • 00:12:21.180 --> 00:12:22.170
  • GOD TO LITERALLY TAKE MY PEN
  • 00:12:22.170 --> 00:12:24.000
  • AND WRITE A REDEMPTIVE MESSAGE
  • 00:12:24.000 --> 00:12:27.000
  • AND TO SHOW ME HOW TO PURSUE
  • 00:12:27.000 --> 00:12:28.260
  • REDEMPTION AND A REDEEMING
  • 00:12:28.260 --> 00:12:30.240
  • QUALITY IN THE MIDST OF A STORY
  • 00:12:30.240 --> 00:12:32.250
  • THAT WAS SO BRUTALLY DIFFICULT.
  • 00:12:32.250 --> 00:12:34.230
  • - CHAD: WOW.
  • 00:12:34.230 --> 00:12:36.060
  • I ALWAYS FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW,
  • 00:12:36.060 --> 00:12:38.080
  • WHEN YOU FACE SOMETHING LIKE--
  • 00:12:38.080 --> 00:12:40.200
  • AND, BY THE WAY, THANK YOU FOR
  • 00:12:40.200 --> 00:12:41.110
  • SHARING YOUR STORY.
  • 00:12:41.110 --> 00:12:41.270
  • I FEEL LIKE IT'S GONNA HELP SO
  • 00:12:41.270 --> 00:12:42.180
  • MANY PEOPLE WHO HAVE FACED SUCH
  • 00:12:42.180 --> 00:12:44.010
  • SIMILAR CIRCUMSTANCE-- WE ALL
  • 00:12:44.010 --> 00:12:47.010
  • FACE PAIN, BUT, IN PARTICULAR,
  • 00:12:47.010 --> 00:12:48.250
  • THIS SUBJECT.
  • 00:12:48.250 --> 00:12:50.250
  • WHEN YOU FACE SOMETHING LIKE
  • 00:12:50.250 --> 00:12:53.040
  • THIS, HOW HAD YOU LED YOUR LIFE
  • 00:12:53.180 --> 00:12:56.180
  • UP TO PREPARING YOUR FAITH,
  • 00:12:56.180 --> 00:12:58.060
  • YOUR EMOTIONAL STABILITY?
  • 00:12:59.110 --> 00:13:02.130
  • YOU'RE FACING THE BROKENNESS,
  • 00:13:02.130 --> 00:13:04.060
  • BUT, THE FACT THAT YOU CAN EVEN
  • 00:13:04.060 --> 00:13:04.280
  • GO TO GENESIS 2, HOW HAD YOU
  • 00:13:04.280 --> 00:13:07.120
  • PREPARED YOUR LIFE--
  • 00:13:07.120 --> 00:13:09.050
  • NOT THAT YOU'RE PREPARING YOUR
  • 00:13:09.050 --> 00:13:10.290
  • LIFE -- "YOU KNOW, THIS COULD
  • 00:13:10.290 --> 00:13:12.090
  • HAPPEN."
  • 00:13:12.090 --> 00:13:12.250
  • BUT WHAT ARE THINGS YOU HAD
  • 00:13:12.250 --> 00:13:14.090
  • DONE THAT YOU LOOK AT THE BOOK,
  • 00:13:14.090 --> 00:13:15.100
  • NOW, AND YOU LOOK AT YOUR LIFE
  • 00:13:15.100 --> 00:13:17.120
  • AND YOU'RE GOING,
  • 00:13:20.070 --> 00:13:20.220
  • "THANK GOD THAT I MADE A FEW
  • 00:13:20.220 --> 00:13:21.130
  • DECISION YEARS BEFORE THAT
  • 00:13:21.130 --> 00:13:23.090
  • ALLOWED ME TO GO THROUGH
  • 00:13:23.090 --> 00:13:24.040
  • THIS AND SEE REDEMPTION
  • 00:13:24.040 --> 00:13:25.140
  • AND SEE GOD IN THIS"?
  • 00:13:25.140 --> 00:13:26.240
  • - LYSA: MM-HMM.
  • 00:13:26.240 --> 00:13:28.120
  • WELL, I DON'T WANNA MAKE IT
  • 00:13:28.120 --> 00:13:30.220
  • SEEM LIKE, YOU KNOW, I HAD SOME
  • 00:13:30.220 --> 00:13:32.180
  • KIND OF PERFECT PREPARATION FOR
  • 00:13:32.180 --> 00:13:35.110
  • BUT I WILL SAY THIS: THE LORD
  • 00:13:42.260 --> 00:13:45.260
  • HAS BEEN VERY TENDER TO PROMPT
  • 00:13:45.260 --> 00:13:47.020
  • ME TO DO THINGS, OR TO READ
  • 00:13:47.020 --> 00:13:47.220
  • SOMETHING, OR TO PRAY THROUGH
  • 00:13:47.220 --> 00:13:49.080
  • SOMETHING, UM, TODAY, BECAUSE,
  • 00:13:49.080 --> 00:13:50.150
  • I GET THIS SENSE THAT HE'S
  • 00:13:51.150 --> 00:13:54.150
  • PREPARING ME FOR SOMETHING FOR
  • 00:13:54.150 --> 00:13:55.070
  • - CHAD: RIGHT.
  • 00:13:56.220 --> 00:13:57.060
  • - LYSA: YOU KNOW?
  • 00:13:57.060 --> 00:13:57.240
  • - CHAD: RIGHT.
  • 00:13:57.240 --> 00:13:58.080
  • - LYSA: SO, I ALWAYS READ
  • 00:13:58.080 --> 00:13:58.270
  • GOD'S WORD, ANTICIPATING HE'S
  • 00:13:58.270 --> 00:13:59.210
  • PREPARING ME RIGHT NOW FOR
  • 00:13:59.210 --> 00:14:00.230
  • SOMETHING HE SEES COMING.
  • 00:14:00.230 --> 00:14:01.200
  • - CHAD: SURE.
  • 00:14:01.200 --> 00:14:02.220
  • - LYSA: UM, BUT, IN JANUARY
  • 00:14:02.220 --> 00:14:03.120
  • 2016, I REALLY FELT STIRRED TO
  • 00:14:03.120 --> 00:14:04.090
  • DO 21 DAYS OF PRAYER AND
  • 00:14:04.090 --> 00:14:06.210
  • FASTING.
  • 00:14:06.210 --> 00:14:08.120
  • MY DAUGHTER WAS ABOUT TO MARRY
  • 00:14:08.120 --> 00:14:09.180
  • A PASTOR.
  • 00:14:09.180 --> 00:14:11.050
  • AND, UM-- AND THIS WAS THAT
  • 00:14:11.050 --> 00:14:13.150
  • DAUGHTER, YOU KNOW, THAT COULD
  • 00:14:13.150 --> 00:14:15.030
  • HAVE GONE EITHER WAY, LIKE--
  • 00:14:15.030 --> 00:14:16.060
  • - CHAD: YEAH, YEAH.
  • 00:14:16.060 --> 00:14:17.000
  • - LYSA: --PULPIT OR PRISON.
  • 00:14:17.000 --> 00:14:17.230
  • - CHAD: YEAH.
  • 00:14:17.230 --> 00:14:18.060
  • [LAUGHS]
  • 00:14:19.180 --> 00:14:22.180
  • - LYSA: IT WAS A TOSSUP,
  • 00:14:22.180 --> 00:14:23.070
  • RIGHT?
  • 00:14:23.070 --> 00:14:23.190
  • AND SO, UM, I WAS SO EXCITED
  • 00:14:23.190 --> 00:14:24.090
  • SHE WAS MARRYING A PREACHER.
  • 00:14:24.090 --> 00:14:24.290
  • - CHAD: YEAH.
  • 00:14:24.290 --> 00:14:25.120
  • - LYSA: I REALLY WAS SO
  • 00:14:25.120 --> 00:14:26.000
  • EXCITED -- YOU HAVE NO IDEA.
  • 00:14:26.000 --> 00:14:26.200
  • - CHAD: WE BELIEVE IN
  • 00:14:26.200 --> 00:14:27.070
  • MIRACLES.
  • 00:14:27.070 --> 00:14:27.180
  • - LYSA: THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:14:27.180 --> 00:14:28.050
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:14:28.050 --> 00:14:28.160
  • AND SO, HIS CHURCH WAS GOING
  • 00:14:28.160 --> 00:14:29.240
  • THROUGH 21 DAYS OF PRAYER AND
  • 00:14:29.240 --> 00:14:30.220
  • FASTING.
  • 00:14:30.220 --> 00:14:31.110
  • - CHAD: WOW.
  • 00:14:31.110 --> 00:14:31.260
  • - LYSA: HIS DAD IS PASTOR
  • 00:14:31.260 --> 00:14:33.160
  • CHRIS HODGES FROM CHURCH OF THE
  • 00:14:33.160 --> 00:14:34.290
  • HIGHLANDS.
  • 00:14:34.290 --> 00:14:35.140
  • - CHAD: GREAT.
  • 00:14:35.140 --> 00:14:36.130
  • - LYSA: AND SO, I DECIDED TO
  • 00:14:36.130 --> 00:14:37.040
  • STREAM ONLINE EVERY MORNING
  • 00:14:37.040 --> 00:14:39.170
  • THEIR SERVICE, THEIR PRAYER
  • 00:14:39.170 --> 00:14:40.270
  • SERVICE, AND JOIN THEM WITH
  • 00:14:40.270 --> 00:14:41.290
  • PRAYER AND FASTING.
  • 00:14:41.290 --> 00:14:42.240
  • I WAS REALLY INTO THE PRAYER
  • 00:14:42.240 --> 00:14:43.240
  • PART.
  • 00:14:43.240 --> 00:14:44.090
  • THE FASTING WAS DIFFICULT.
  • 00:14:44.090 --> 00:14:45.120
  • [CHAD LAUGHS]
  • 00:14:45.120 --> 00:14:47.040
  • 'CAUSE I WAS LIKE, "HOW DO I
  • 00:14:47.040 --> 00:14:47.240
  • PURSUE GOD MORE WHEN I'M HANGRY
  • 00:14:47.240 --> 00:14:49.240
  • FOR 21 DAYS?"
  • 00:14:49.240 --> 00:14:50.080
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:14:50.080 --> 00:14:50.200
  • YOU KNOW?
  • 00:14:50.200 --> 00:14:51.030
  • THIS IS GONNA BE COMPLICATED,
  • 00:14:51.030 --> 00:14:51.240
  • YOU KNOW?
  • 00:14:51.240 --> 00:14:52.090
  • - CHAD: THESE DON'T WORK
  • 00:14:52.090 --> 00:14:52.280
  • TOGETHER, YEAH.
  • 00:14:52.280 --> 00:14:53.120
  • - LYSA: UM...
  • 00:14:53.120 --> 00:14:54.170
  • BUT, I JUST REALLY FELT THIS
  • 00:14:54.170 --> 00:14:55.160
  • HEAVINESS, LIKE: YOU ARE
  • 00:14:55.160 --> 00:14:56.260
  • SUPPOSED TO DO THIS, LYSA.
  • 00:14:56.260 --> 00:14:58.220
  • SO, I DID 21 DAYS, AND, I NEVER
  • 00:14:58.220 --> 00:14:59.240
  • GOT THE BIG BREAKTHROUGH WITH
  • 00:14:59.240 --> 00:15:01.160
  • GOD THAT I WAS KIND OF
  • 00:15:01.160 --> 00:15:02.030
  • ANTICIPATING.
  • 00:15:02.030 --> 00:15:03.130
  • UM, BUT THEN, THE LORD REALLY
  • 00:15:03.130 --> 00:15:05.140
  • CLEARLY THAT MORNING JUST SPOKE
  • 00:15:05.270 --> 00:15:08.270
  • TO MY HEART AND SAID: SEVEN
  • 00:15:08.270 --> 00:15:10.090
  • MORE DAYS.
  • 00:15:10.090 --> 00:15:11.170
  • I WAS LIKE: NO, GOD, YOU DON'T
  • 00:15:11.170 --> 00:15:12.270
  • UNDERSTAND.
  • 00:15:12.270 --> 00:15:13.140
  • EVEN THE PASTOR STOPS AT 21
  • 00:15:13.140 --> 00:15:14.150
  • DAYS.
  • 00:15:14.150 --> 00:15:15.230
  • RIGHT?
  • 00:15:15.230 --> 00:15:16.180
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:15:16.180 --> 00:15:17.010
  • - CHAD: RIGHT.
  • 00:15:17.010 --> 00:15:17.180
  • - LYSA: IT'S LIKE: I CAN'T
  • 00:15:17.180 --> 00:15:18.080
  • POSSIBLY DO 28 DAYS.
  • 00:15:18.080 --> 00:15:19.000
  • THAT'S BREAKIN' THE RULES.
  • 00:15:19.000 --> 00:15:20.140
  • BUT, HE SAID: I WANT YOU TO DO
  • 00:15:20.140 --> 00:15:21.050
  • SEVEN MORE DAYS AND PRAY ABOUT
  • 00:15:21.050 --> 00:15:22.080
  • NOTHING BUT YOUR MARRIAGE.
  • 00:15:22.080 --> 00:15:23.210
  • - CHAD: WOW...
  • 00:15:23.210 --> 00:15:24.070
  • - LYSA: AND SO, I PRAYED FOR
  • 00:15:24.070 --> 00:15:25.080
  • SEVEN MORE DAYS AND FASTED FOR
  • 00:15:25.080 --> 00:15:27.140
  • SEVEN MORE DAYS OF, UM...JUST
  • 00:15:27.140 --> 00:15:29.210
  • REALLY JUST SEEKING THE LORD
  • 00:15:29.210 --> 00:15:31.260
  • FOR MY MARRIAGE.
  • 00:15:31.260 --> 00:15:33.090
  • AND, ON DAY 28, I PULLED OUT MY
  • 00:15:33.090 --> 00:15:36.020
  • JOURNAL AND AS I WAS WRITING,
  • 00:15:36.020 --> 00:15:38.140
  • THE LORD JUST REALLY WAS
  • 00:15:38.140 --> 00:15:40.180
  • SPEAKING TO MY HEART IN A DEEP
  • 00:15:40.180 --> 00:15:42.250
  • PLACE AND SAID: LYSA, I'M ABOUT
  • 00:15:42.250 --> 00:15:44.090
  • TO TELL YOU WHAT'S-- WHAT'S
  • 00:15:44.090 --> 00:15:45.290
  • BEEN GOING ON.
  • 00:15:45.290 --> 00:15:48.130
  • YOU'RE GONNA FIND OUT SOON.
  • 00:15:48.130 --> 00:15:49.060
  • BUT, I NEED YOU TO MAKE ME TWO
  • 00:15:49.060 --> 00:15:51.030
  • PROMISES.
  • 00:15:51.030 --> 00:15:51.190
  • I NEED YOU TO, NUMBER ONE,
  • 00:15:51.190 --> 00:15:54.150
  • TRUST MY TIMING, AND, NUMBER
  • 00:15:54.150 --> 00:15:55.200
  • TWO, I NEED YOU TO PROMISE ME
  • 00:15:55.200 --> 00:15:58.070
  • YOU'RE GONNA LOVE YOUR HUSBAND.
  • 00:15:58.070 --> 00:15:59.160
  • - CHAD: WOW.
  • 00:15:59.160 --> 00:16:00.240
  • - LYSA: AND, I WAS LIKE:
  • 00:16:00.240 --> 00:16:01.130
  • ABSOLUTELY!
  • 00:16:01.130 --> 00:16:02.000
  • WHATEVER IT IS, LORD.
  • 00:16:02.000 --> 00:16:02.230
  • - CHAD: SURE.
  • 00:16:02.230 --> 00:16:03.250
  • - LYSA: LIKE, I WILL
  • 00:16:03.250 --> 00:16:05.160
  • ABSOLUTELY TRUST YOUR TIMING
  • 00:16:05.160 --> 00:16:06.150
  • AND I WILL LOVE MY HUSBAND.
  • 00:16:06.150 --> 00:16:08.020
  • AND SEE HOW TENDER IT WAS THAT
  • 00:16:08.020 --> 00:16:09.180
  • HE WAS PREPARING ME THEN TO
  • 00:16:09.180 --> 00:16:11.150
  • MAKE A DECISION.
  • 00:16:11.150 --> 00:16:13.080
  • BECAUSE, IT COMPLETELY CHANGED
  • 00:16:13.080 --> 00:16:16.060
  • THE WAY I REACTED ABOUT THREE
  • 00:16:16.060 --> 00:16:17.030
  • WEEKS LATER WHEN I FOUND OUT
  • 00:16:17.030 --> 00:16:18.290
  • ABOUT THE AFFAIR.
  • 00:16:18.290 --> 00:16:20.050
  • - CHAD: WOW.
  • 00:16:20.050 --> 00:16:21.130
  • - LYSA: I ALWAYS HAD THIS
  • 00:16:21.130 --> 00:16:22.060
  • CRAZY NOTION OF HOW CHAOTIC--
  • 00:16:22.060 --> 00:16:23.200
  • IF SOMETHING HORRIBLE LIKE THAT
  • 00:16:23.200 --> 00:16:25.190
  • EVER HAPPENED HOW CHAOTIC I
  • 00:16:25.190 --> 00:16:26.170
  • WOULD BE.
  • 00:16:26.170 --> 00:16:27.180
  • UM, BUT THE LORD HAD ALREADY
  • 00:16:27.180 --> 00:16:29.290
  • PREPARED MY HEART FOR A
  • 00:16:29.290 --> 00:16:31.010
  • COMPLETELY DIFFERENT REACTION.
  • 00:16:31.010 --> 00:16:32.080
  • - CHAD: MMH.
  • 00:16:32.080 --> 00:16:32.280
  • - LYSA: 'CAUSE I WAS ABLE TO
  • 00:16:32.280 --> 00:16:34.000
  • LOOK AT MY HUSBAND AND I WAS
  • 00:16:34.000 --> 00:16:35.130
  • ABLE TO SAY, "THIS ISN'T WHO
  • 00:16:35.130 --> 00:16:36.290
  • YOU ARE."
  • 00:16:36.290 --> 00:16:37.180
  • AND IN THAT MOMENT OF COMPLETE
  • 00:16:37.180 --> 00:16:39.030
  • AND UTTER DEVASTATION...
  • 00:16:39.030 --> 00:16:41.260
  • - CHAD: WOW.
  • 00:16:41.260 --> 00:16:42.110
  • - LYSA: ...THE LORD HAD DONE
  • 00:16:42.110 --> 00:16:43.090
  • SOMETHING IN MY HEART TO ALLOW
  • 00:16:43.090 --> 00:16:44.270
  • ME TO SAY WORDS TO HIM--
  • 00:16:44.270 --> 00:16:46.060
  • - CHAD: BEAUTIFUL.
  • 00:16:46.060 --> 00:16:47.130
  • - LYSA: --THAT WERE
  • 00:16:47.130 --> 00:16:48.030
  • LIFE-GIVING AND MORE IMPORTANT,
  • 00:16:48.030 --> 00:16:48.250
  • UM, THAN I EVER KNEW.
  • 00:16:48.250 --> 00:16:50.040
  • I NEVER KNEW HOW IMPORTANT THAT
  • 00:16:50.040 --> 00:16:50.260
  • REACTION WAS.
  • 00:16:50.260 --> 00:16:52.290
  • - CHAD: WOW...
  • 00:16:52.290 --> 00:16:53.170
  • THAT'S BEAUTIFUL.
  • 00:16:53.170 --> 00:16:54.110
  • UM, I WANNA COME BACK AND TALK
  • 00:16:54.110 --> 00:16:56.140
  • MORE ABOUT THIS BECAUSE IT'S SO
  • 00:16:56.140 --> 00:16:58.070
  • POWERFUL.
  • 00:16:58.070 --> 00:16:59.170
  • AND I CAN ALREADY SENSE THAT
  • 00:16:59.170 --> 00:17:00.230
  • THERE'S MORE TO UNPACK HERE.
  • 00:17:00.230 --> 00:17:03.030
  • I WANNA ASK YOU A FEW MORE
  • 00:17:03.030 --> 00:17:04.090
  • QUESTIONS.
  • 00:17:04.090 --> 00:17:04.260
  • BUT I WANT EVERYONE TO KNOW A
  • 00:17:04.260 --> 00:17:06.190
  • LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT YOUR
  • 00:17:06.190 --> 00:17:07.090
  • STORY.
  • 00:17:07.090 --> 00:17:07.220
  • SO, CHECK OUT THIS VIDEO, THEN
  • 00:17:07.220 --> 00:17:08.200
  • WE'LL COME BACK.
  • 00:17:08.200 --> 00:17:09.110
  • MORE WITH LYSA TERKEURST HERE
  • 00:17:09.110 --> 00:17:10.210
  • IN JUST A MINUTE.
  • 00:17:10.210 --> 00:17:12.040
  • - FEMALE ANNOUNCER: HER
  • 00:17:17.190 --> 00:17:18.080
  • LIFE SEEMED PERFECT --
  • 00:17:18.080 --> 00:17:19.080
  • LYSA TERKEURST, FOUNDER OF THE
  • 00:17:19.080 --> 00:17:20.290
  • LEADING CHRISTIAN WOMEN'S
  • 00:17:20.290 --> 00:17:22.040
  • MINISTRY WITH MORE THAN 6
  • 00:17:22.040 --> 00:17:23.110
  • MILLION SOCIAL MEDIA FOLLOWERS,
  • 00:17:23.110 --> 00:17:24.240
  • NUMBER-ONE NEW YORK TIMES
  • 00:17:24.240 --> 00:17:27.200
  • BESTSELLING AUTHOR, AND
  • 00:17:27.200 --> 00:17:28.220
  • TEACHER, A CELEBRATED WIFE AND
  • 00:17:28.220 --> 00:17:29.220
  • MOM WHO RAISED FIVE CHILDREN,
  • 00:17:29.220 --> 00:17:30.130
  • INCLUDING TWO BOYS FROM A
  • 00:17:30.130 --> 00:17:32.140
  • HER LIFE WAS THE PICTURE OF
  • 00:17:37.000 --> 00:17:37.200
  • SUCCESS, UNTIL IT ALL BEGAN TO
  • 00:17:37.200 --> 00:17:38.280
  • UNRAVEL.
  • 00:17:38.280 --> 00:17:41.230
  • [SERIOUS THEME PLAYS]
  • 00:17:41.230 --> 00:17:42.130
  • LYSA DISCOVERED HER CHILDHOOD
  • 00:17:42.130 --> 00:17:43.180
  • SWEETHEART WAS HAVING AN
  • 00:17:43.180 --> 00:17:44.100
  • AFFAIR.
  • 00:17:44.100 --> 00:17:46.110
  • SOON AFTER, SHE RECEIVED A
  • 00:17:46.110 --> 00:17:47.110
  • DEVASTATING DIAGNOSIS OF BREAST
  • 00:17:47.110 --> 00:17:48.030
  • CANCER.
  • 00:17:48.030 --> 00:17:50.180
  • LEFT SHATTERED WITH
  • 00:17:50.180 --> 00:17:51.200
  • DISAPPOINTMENT, LYSA HIT ROCK
  • 00:17:51.200 --> 00:17:53.110
  • BOTTOM.
  • 00:17:53.110 --> 00:17:55.240
  • TODAY, SHE OPENS UP ABOUT HER
  • 00:17:55.240 --> 00:17:56.150
  • STRUGGLE, DETERMINED TO TURN
  • 00:17:56.150 --> 00:17:59.000
  • HER BATTLE SCARS INTO A CRY TO
  • 00:17:59.000 --> 00:18:00.030
  • HELP OTHERS.
  • 00:18:00.180 --> 00:18:03.180
  • SHE SUMS IT UP IN HER BOOK,
  • 00:18:04.070 --> 00:18:07.070
  • "IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE THIS
  • 00:18:07.070 --> 00:18:07.280
  • WAY: FINDING UNEXPECTED
  • 00:18:07.280 --> 00:18:09.060
  • STRENGTH WHEN DISAPPOINTMENTS
  • 00:18:09.060 --> 00:18:09.270
  • LEAVE YOU SHATTERED."
  • 00:18:09.270 --> 00:18:10.230
  • LYSA TERKEURST.
  • 00:18:10.230 --> 00:18:12.120
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:18:15.070 --> 00:18:18.070
  • WE ARE TALKING TODAY ABOUT
  • 00:18:21.280 --> 00:18:23.100
  • "IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE THIS
  • 00:18:23.100 --> 00:18:24.260
  • WAY" WITH MY GOOD FRIEND
  • 00:18:24.260 --> 00:18:25.280
  • LYSA TERKEURST.
  • 00:18:25.280 --> 00:18:27.180
  • LYSA, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR
  • 00:18:27.180 --> 00:18:28.290
  • JOINING US AGAIN.
  • 00:18:28.290 --> 00:18:31.270
  • AND, WE JUST WERE TALKING ABOUT
  • 00:18:31.270 --> 00:18:32.190
  • HOW 28 DAYS OF PRAYER AND
  • 00:18:33.230 --> 00:18:36.230
  • FASTING--
  • 00:18:36.230 --> 00:18:38.280
  • MY GOD...
  • 00:18:38.280 --> 00:18:39.090
  • - LYSA: NO, IT WASN'T A
  • 00:18:39.090 --> 00:18:39.270
  • COMPLETE FAST.
  • 00:18:39.270 --> 00:18:40.110
  • I DO THINK I HAVE TO BE
  • 00:18:40.110 --> 00:18:41.090
  • COMPLETELY HONEST WITH YOU,
  • 00:18:41.090 --> 00:18:41.290
  • RIGHT?
  • 00:18:41.290 --> 00:18:44.060
  • - CHAD: OKAY...OKAY.
  • 00:18:44.060 --> 00:18:44.230
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:18:44.230 --> 00:18:45.280
  • YOU'RE HELPING ME NOW?
  • 00:18:45.280 --> 00:18:46.150
  • - LYSA: YES, YES.
  • 00:18:46.150 --> 00:18:47.000
  • - CHAD: OKAY.
  • 00:18:47.000 --> 00:18:47.130
  • - LYSA: IT WAS NOT A COMPLETE
  • 00:18:47.130 --> 00:18:48.040
  • FAST.
  • 00:18:48.040 --> 00:18:48.130
  • BUT IT WAS ENOUGH TO WHERE I
  • 00:18:48.130 --> 00:18:49.030
  • THOUGHT ABOUT FOOD A LOT.
  • 00:18:49.030 --> 00:18:49.220
  • [CHAD LAUGHS]
  • 00:18:49.220 --> 00:18:50.050
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:18:50.050 --> 00:18:50.160
  • AND, SO, THEN I WOULD TURN
  • 00:18:50.160 --> 00:18:51.050
  • THOSE THOUGHTS INTO PRAYERS.
  • 00:18:51.050 --> 00:18:51.250
  • - CHAD: IMMEDIATELY, WHEN
  • 00:18:51.250 --> 00:18:52.140
  • YOU SAY 28 DAYS, I THINK OF
  • 00:18:52.140 --> 00:18:53.120
  • CHICK-FIL-A.
  • 00:18:53.120 --> 00:18:55.000
  • I DON'T KNOW WHY, BUT I JUST GO
  • 00:18:55.000 --> 00:18:55.220
  • THERE IN MY MIND.
  • 00:18:55.220 --> 00:18:56.070
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:18:56.070 --> 00:18:56.250
  • BUT, 28 DAYS AND GOD PREPARED
  • 00:18:56.250 --> 00:18:58.040
  • YOU.
  • 00:18:58.040 --> 00:18:59.150
  • - LYSA: YES.
  • 00:18:59.150 --> 00:19:00.040
  • - CHAD: AND I REMEMBER WHEN--
  • 00:19:00.040 --> 00:19:01.110
  • YOU KNOW, WHEN ALL OF THIS
  • 00:19:01.110 --> 00:19:02.290
  • HAPPENED, I REMEMBER CALLING
  • 00:19:02.290 --> 00:19:04.030
  • YOU AND YOU TOLD ME ABOUT THE
  • 00:19:04.030 --> 00:19:05.200
  • LORD HAD PREPARED YOU AND TOLD
  • 00:19:05.200 --> 00:19:07.010
  • YOU THOSE TWO THINGS.
  • 00:19:07.010 --> 00:19:09.250
  • SO, TALK TO ME.
  • 00:19:09.250 --> 00:19:11.040
  • YOU KNOW, YOU FIND OUT, YOU
  • 00:19:11.040 --> 00:19:13.100
  • DISCOVER.
  • 00:19:13.100 --> 00:19:14.160
  • AND YOU'VE BEEN WITH YOUR
  • 00:19:14.160 --> 00:19:16.020
  • HUSBAND FOR HOW LONG?
  • 00:19:16.020 --> 00:19:17.080
  • - LYSA: A LONG TIME.
  • 00:19:17.080 --> 00:19:18.150
  • I MEAN, I'VE BEEN WITH HIM
  • 00:19:18.150 --> 00:19:20.100
  • LONGER THAN I WAS WITHOUT HIM.
  • 00:19:20.100 --> 00:19:22.130
  • SO, LIKE, MY WHOLE ADULT LIFE.
  • 00:19:22.130 --> 00:19:23.090
  • - CHAD: RIGHT.
  • 00:19:23.090 --> 00:19:23.230
  • AND, SO, THIS IS REVEALED.
  • 00:19:25.170 --> 00:19:28.170
  • AND, YOU'RE FEELING THINGS
  • 00:19:28.170 --> 00:19:30.030
  • YOU'VE NEVER FELT BEFORE.
  • 00:19:30.030 --> 00:19:31.030
  • - LYSA: YEP.
  • 00:19:31.030 --> 00:19:32.000
  • - CHAD: EVEN THOUGH YOU'RE
  • 00:19:32.000 --> 00:19:32.200
  • PREPARED, IT DOESN'T TAKE AWAY
  • 00:19:32.200 --> 00:19:33.110
  • THE EMOTION.
  • 00:19:33.110 --> 00:19:35.020
  • - LYSA: THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:19:35.020 --> 00:19:35.220
  • AND THE PREPARATION HELPED ME
  • 00:19:35.220 --> 00:19:36.130
  • HAVE THAT INITIAL RESPONSE OF,
  • 00:19:36.130 --> 00:19:38.130
  • UM...BUT THEN, AH...I...
  • 00:19:42.290 --> 00:19:45.120
  • I-I CRAWLED IN MY BED AND...
  • 00:19:45.120 --> 00:19:48.050
  • AND WEPT LIKE I'VE NEVER WEPT
  • 00:19:48.050 --> 00:19:50.150
  • BEFORE.
  • 00:19:50.150 --> 00:19:51.180
  • - CHAD: WOW.
  • 00:19:51.180 --> 00:19:52.180
  • - LYSA: AND, I-- I FELT AS IF
  • 00:19:52.180 --> 00:19:55.040
  • THE WORLD WAS CAVING IN ON ME.
  • 00:19:55.040 --> 00:19:56.280
  • I MEAN, NOT JUST...NOT JUST MY
  • 00:19:56.280 --> 00:19:59.120
  • CIRCUMSTANCES, BUT I REALLY
  • 00:19:59.120 --> 00:20:01.280
  • FELT LIKE MY FUTURE--
  • 00:20:01.280 --> 00:20:04.030
  • YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES WE FEEL
  • 00:20:04.030 --> 00:20:06.000
  • LIKE THE WORLD IS CAVING IN ON
  • 00:20:06.000 --> 00:20:07.120
  • US 'CAUSE THE PRESENT
  • 00:20:07.120 --> 00:20:08.000
  • CIRCUMSTANCE IS PRESSING REALLY
  • 00:20:08.000 --> 00:20:09.280
  • BUT WE KNOW IN A WEEK, A MONTH,
  • 00:20:11.180 --> 00:20:12.100
  • A YEAR, IT'S GONNA BE BETTER,
  • 00:20:12.100 --> 00:20:13.010
  • RIGHT?
  • 00:20:13.010 --> 00:20:14.030
  • - CHAD: YEP.
  • 00:20:14.030 --> 00:20:14.200
  • - LYSA: THIS WAS NOT THAT.
  • 00:20:14.200 --> 00:20:16.000
  • THIS WAS MY ENTIRE FUTURE.
  • 00:20:16.000 --> 00:20:18.270
  • I FELT LIKE, IN THAT MOMENT, I
  • 00:20:18.270 --> 00:20:20.250
  • WAS GONNA LOSE MY MARRIAGE, I
  • 00:20:20.250 --> 00:20:22.030
  • WAS GONNA LOSE THE LEGACY THAT
  • 00:20:23.140 --> 00:20:26.140
  • ART AND I HAD BUILT WITH MY
  • 00:20:26.140 --> 00:20:28.030
  • - CHAD: MMH.
  • 00:20:29.290 --> 00:20:31.060
  • - LYSA: UM, I HAD SO MUCH
  • 00:20:31.060 --> 00:20:33.240
  • EMOTIONAL TURMOIL THAT I
  • 00:20:33.240 --> 00:20:35.160
  • REMEMBER I WENT TO MY COUNSELOR
  • 00:20:35.160 --> 00:20:37.130
  • AND MY COUNSELOR HAD JUST READ
  • 00:20:37.130 --> 00:20:38.040
  • THIS BOOK.
  • 00:20:38.040 --> 00:20:39.020
  • AND, UM, HE SAID TO ME: "LYSA,
  • 00:20:39.020 --> 00:20:41.010
  • YOUR BODY IS GONNA KEEP THE
  • 00:20:41.010 --> 00:20:42.210
  • SCORE.
  • 00:20:42.210 --> 00:20:43.260
  • YOU'VE GOT TO LEARN HOW TO
  • 00:20:43.260 --> 00:20:44.150
  • PROCESS THIS EMOTION."
  • 00:20:44.150 --> 00:20:46.080
  • - CHAD: WOW.
  • 00:20:46.080 --> 00:20:47.180
  • - LYSA: "AND, IF YOU DON'T,
  • 00:20:47.180 --> 00:20:49.270
  • IT'S GONNA HARM YOU PHYSICALLY,
  • 00:20:49.270 --> 00:20:51.200
  • AS WELL AS EMOTIONALLY."
  • 00:20:51.200 --> 00:20:52.080
  • UM, AND I WANTED TO.
  • 00:20:52.080 --> 00:20:54.220
  • I JUST DIDN'T KNOW HOW.
  • 00:20:54.220 --> 00:20:55.260
  • I WAS HURTING SO DEEPLY.
  • 00:20:55.260 --> 00:20:57.180
  • AND I KEPT TELLING MY FRIENDS,
  • 00:20:57.180 --> 00:20:58.240
  • "I FEEL LIKE MY BODY,
  • 00:20:58.240 --> 00:21:01.240
  • INSIDE -- MY INSIDES ARE
  • 00:21:01.240 --> 00:21:03.090
  • JUST TWISTED UP IN A KNOT."
  • 00:21:03.090 --> 00:21:04.190
  • AND, UM...AND, LITTLE DID I
  • 00:21:04.190 --> 00:21:07.010
  • KNOW THAT THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT
  • 00:21:07.010 --> 00:21:08.140
  • WAS PHYSICALLY HAPPENING -- ON
  • 00:21:08.140 --> 00:21:09.290
  • AN EMOTIONAL SENSE BUT ALSO ON
  • 00:21:09.290 --> 00:21:11.090
  • A PHYSICAL SENSE, TOO.
  • 00:21:11.090 --> 00:21:12.280
  • - CHAD: JEEZ.
  • 00:21:12.280 --> 00:21:14.000
  • - LYSA: BECAUSE A COUPLE OF
  • 00:21:14.000 --> 00:21:14.200
  • MONTHS INTO THIS JOURNEY, UM, I
  • 00:21:14.200 --> 00:21:15.290
  • WOKE UP ONE MORNING, I STEPPED
  • 00:21:15.290 --> 00:21:17.260
  • OUT OF BED.
  • 00:21:17.260 --> 00:21:19.050
  • I WAS IN SO MUCH PHYSICAL PAIN,
  • 00:21:19.050 --> 00:21:20.290
  • I COULDN'T PROCESS WHAT WAS
  • 00:21:20.290 --> 00:21:22.240
  • HAPPENING TO ME.
  • 00:21:22.240 --> 00:21:23.150
  • I COLLAPSED BESIDE MY BED.
  • 00:21:23.150 --> 00:21:25.260
  • MY FAMILY RUSHED ME TO THE
  • 00:21:25.260 --> 00:21:26.160
  • HOSPITAL, AND, I WAS IN
  • 00:21:26.160 --> 00:21:29.110
  • EXCRUCIATING PAIN.
  • 00:21:29.110 --> 00:21:30.280
  • SO, THEY ADMITTED ME TO THE
  • 00:21:30.280 --> 00:21:32.130
  • HOSPITAL BECAUSE OF THE PAIN
  • 00:21:32.130 --> 00:21:34.070
  • AND THEY STARTED RUNNING TESTS.
  • 00:21:34.070 --> 00:21:35.250
  • AND THEY COULDN'T FIGURE OUT
  • 00:21:35.250 --> 00:21:36.150
  • WHAT WAS WRONG WITH ME.
  • 00:21:36.150 --> 00:21:37.030
  • AND I LAID IN THAT HOSPITAL BED
  • 00:21:37.030 --> 00:21:39.140
  • MONDAY, TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY,
  • 00:21:39.140 --> 00:21:41.080
  • THURSDAY, FRIDAY MORNING IN
  • 00:21:41.080 --> 00:21:43.100
  • MORE PAIN THAN-- THAN WHAT I
  • 00:21:43.100 --> 00:21:44.290
  • COULD EVEN EXPRESS.
  • 00:21:44.290 --> 00:21:47.010
  • AND, I REMEMBER THE DOCTORS
  • 00:21:47.010 --> 00:21:49.050
  • KEPT SAYING, "WE CAN'T FIGURE
  • 00:21:49.050 --> 00:21:50.130
  • IT OUT," AND, I KEPT SAYING, "I
  • 00:21:50.130 --> 00:21:51.180
  • KNOW SOMETHING'S TERRIBLY WRONG
  • 00:21:51.180 --> 00:21:52.180
  • WITH ME."
  • 00:21:52.180 --> 00:21:53.220
  • - CHAD: MMH.
  • 00:21:53.220 --> 00:21:54.230
  • - LYSA: AND THEN, FRIDAY
  • 00:21:54.230 --> 00:21:55.190
  • MORNING, A SURGEON CAME INTO
  • 00:21:55.190 --> 00:21:56.180
  • THE ROOM.
  • 00:21:56.180 --> 00:21:58.050
  • AND HE SAID: "LYSA, I RAN ONE
  • 00:21:58.050 --> 00:21:59.090
  • LAST TEST AND WE FINALLY
  • 00:21:59.090 --> 00:22:00.150
  • FIGURED OUT WHAT'S HAPPENED.
  • 00:22:00.150 --> 00:22:01.270
  • THE RIGHT SIDE OF YOUR COLON HAS
  • 00:22:01.270 --> 00:22:04.060
  • RIPPED AWAY FROM THE ABDOMINAL
  • 00:22:04.060 --> 00:22:05.120
  • WALL, IT IS WRAPPED AROUND THE
  • 00:22:05.120 --> 00:22:07.010
  • LEFT SIDE, AND IT'S CUT THE
  • 00:22:07.010 --> 00:22:08.110
  • BLOOD FLOW OFF INSIDE OF YOU.
  • 00:22:08.110 --> 00:22:09.160
  • AND WE'VE GOTTA RUSH YOU INTO
  • 00:22:09.160 --> 00:22:10.070
  • EMERGENCY SURGERY."
  • 00:22:10.070 --> 00:22:13.010
  • AND HE SAID, "AND, BY
  • 00:22:13.010 --> 00:22:13.200
  • THE WAY, I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN
  • 00:22:13.200 --> 00:22:15.030
  • PRAYING FOR GOD TO TAKE AWAY
  • 00:22:15.030 --> 00:22:16.090
  • THAT PAIN, BUT, I THANK GOD
  • 00:22:16.090 --> 00:22:18.120
  • THAT HE DIDN'T ANSWER THAT
  • 00:22:18.120 --> 00:22:19.010
  • PRAYER.
  • 00:22:19.010 --> 00:22:19.150
  • BECAUSE HAD HE TAKEN AWAY THE
  • 00:22:19.150 --> 00:22:21.040
  • PAIN, WE WOULD HAVE SENT YOU
  • 00:22:21.040 --> 00:22:22.160
  • HOME, AND, YOUR COLON WOULD
  • 00:22:22.160 --> 00:22:24.230
  • HAVE RUPTURED AND YOU WOULD--
  • 00:22:24.230 --> 00:22:25.140
  • YOU WOULD HAVE DIED."
  • 00:22:25.140 --> 00:22:27.160
  • AND, I REMEMBER AS THEY WERE
  • 00:22:27.160 --> 00:22:29.050
  • WHEELING ME BACK INTO SURGERY,
  • 00:22:29.050 --> 00:22:31.070
  • I WAS HAVING ALL KINDS OF
  • 00:22:31.080 --> 00:22:34.080
  • CHAOTIC THOUGHTS ABOUT MY
  • 00:22:34.080 --> 00:22:35.080
  • SITUATION.
  • 00:22:35.080 --> 00:22:36.230
  • BUT THE ONE THING THAT BROUGHT
  • 00:22:36.230 --> 00:22:37.260
  • ME SO MUCH PEACE IS GOD WAS NOT
  • 00:22:37.260 --> 00:22:39.060
  • A FAR-REMOVED GOD IN MY
  • 00:22:39.060 --> 00:22:41.020
  • PHYSICAL PAIN.
  • 00:22:41.020 --> 00:22:41.260
  • - CHAD: MMH.
  • 00:22:41.260 --> 00:22:43.190
  • - LYSA: I BELIEVE IT PROBABLY
  • 00:22:43.190 --> 00:22:44.180
  • TOOK EVERY BIT OF HOLY
  • 00:22:44.180 --> 00:22:45.210
  • RESTRAINT FOR GOD NOT TO ANSWER
  • 00:22:45.210 --> 00:22:47.110
  • MY PRAYER.
  • 00:22:47.110 --> 00:22:48.270
  • - CHAD: WOW.
  • 00:22:48.270 --> 00:22:49.180
  • - LYSA: BECAUSE HE LOVED ME
  • 00:22:49.180 --> 00:22:50.160
  • THAT MUCH.
  • 00:22:50.160 --> 00:22:51.000
  • BECAUSE GOD LOVES US TOO MUCH
  • 00:22:51.000 --> 00:22:52.150
  • TO ANSWER OUR PRAYERS AT ANY
  • 00:22:52.150 --> 00:22:54.020
  • OTHER TIME THAN THE RIGHT
  • 00:22:54.020 --> 00:22:55.040
  • TIME...
  • 00:22:55.040 --> 00:22:55.210
  • - CHAD: WOW.
  • 00:22:55.210 --> 00:22:56.070
  • - LYSA: ...AND IN ANY OTHER
  • 00:22:56.070 --> 00:22:57.040
  • WAY THAN THE RIGHT WAY.
  • 00:22:58.060 --> 00:23:01.080
  • AND THAT'S TRUE IN PHYSICAL
  • 00:23:01.080 --> 00:23:01.280
  • SENSE.
  • 00:23:01.280 --> 00:23:02.070
  • BUT IT'S ALSO TRUE IN AN
  • 00:23:02.070 --> 00:23:02.250
  • EMOTIONAL SENSE, TOO.
  • 00:23:02.250 --> 00:23:03.120
  • - CHAD: YEAH.
  • 00:23:03.120 --> 00:23:03.250
  • - LYSA: SO, GOD TAUGHT ME A
  • 00:23:03.250 --> 00:23:04.150
  • LOT ABOUT PAIN, IN THIS SEASON.
  • 00:23:04.150 --> 00:23:05.070
  • - CHAD: SO, HERE YOU GO -- YOU
  • 00:23:05.070 --> 00:23:07.070
  • FACE THIS EMOTIONAL PAIN AND
  • 00:23:07.070 --> 00:23:08.230
  • THIS PHYSICAL PAIN.
  • 00:23:09.080 --> 00:23:12.080
  • DO YOU EVER GO TO A DARK PLACE,
  • 00:23:12.080 --> 00:23:14.290
  • MENTALLY?
  • 00:23:14.290 --> 00:23:16.080
  • ALL THE SCRIPTURES YOU KNOW-- I
  • 00:23:16.080 --> 00:23:18.020
  • ASK YOU THAT WITH A LOT OF
  • 00:23:18.020 --> 00:23:19.150
  • RESPECT.
  • 00:23:19.150 --> 00:23:20.030
  • YOU'VE WRITTEN HOW MANY BOOKS?
  • 00:23:20.030 --> 00:23:22.220
  • YOU'RE A NEW YORK TIMES
  • 00:23:22.220 --> 00:23:24.070
  • BESTSELLER.
  • 00:23:24.070 --> 00:23:24.230
  • UH, MILLIONS OF PEOPLE BEING
  • 00:23:24.230 --> 00:23:26.170
  • MINISTERED TO THROUGH
  • 00:23:26.170 --> 00:23:27.230
  • PROVERBS 31.
  • 00:23:27.230 --> 00:23:30.020
  • I MEAN, FROM A DISTANCE, FROM
  • 00:23:30.020 --> 00:23:30.270
  • THE OUTSIDE, YOU ARE--
  • 00:23:30.270 --> 00:23:31.240
  • - LYSA: HMH.
  • 00:23:31.240 --> 00:23:32.250
  • - CHAD: --YOU'VE GOT IT ALL
  • 00:23:32.250 --> 00:23:33.150
  • TOGETHER.
  • 00:23:33.150 --> 00:23:33.260
  • I'VE BEEN TO YOUR HOME.
  • 00:23:33.260 --> 00:23:35.230
  • YOUR HOME IS IMMACULATE!
  • 00:23:35.230 --> 00:23:36.110
  • IT-- YOU KNOW, IT'S--
  • 00:23:36.110 --> 00:23:37.160
  • - LYSA: NOT TODAY.
  • 00:23:37.160 --> 00:23:38.020
  • BUT...
  • 00:23:38.020 --> 00:23:38.220
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:23:38.220 --> 00:23:39.050
  • - CHAD: BUT-- BUT--
  • 00:23:39.050 --> 00:23:40.120
  • THERE'S NO FOOD THERE 'CAUSE
  • 00:23:40.120 --> 00:23:43.010
  • OF THE WHOLE FASTING THING,
  • 00:23:43.010 --> 00:23:43.210
  • BUT-- BUT I ENJOY GOING THERE.
  • 00:23:43.210 --> 00:23:44.120
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:23:44.120 --> 00:23:45.270
  • BUT, UM...BUT, DID YOU EVER GO
  • 00:23:45.270 --> 00:23:48.260
  • TO A DARK PLACE?
  • 00:23:48.260 --> 00:23:50.070
  • - LYSA: OF COURSE, I DID.
  • 00:23:50.070 --> 00:23:50.270
  • OF COURSE, I DID.
  • 00:23:50.270 --> 00:23:52.220
  • - CHAD: TALK TO ME ABOUT THAT.
  • 00:23:52.220 --> 00:23:53.140
  • 'CAUSE I NEED TO KNOW.
  • 00:23:53.140 --> 00:23:54.150
  • IT WILL HELP ME PERSONALLY JUST
  • 00:23:54.150 --> 00:23:55.290
  • KNOWING THAT YOU, ALSO--
  • 00:23:55.290 --> 00:23:57.100
  • 'CAUSE I THINK SOME PEOPLE LOOK
  • 00:23:57.100 --> 00:23:59.120
  • AT SOMEONE LIKE YOU, WITH SO
  • 00:23:59.120 --> 00:24:00.040
  • MUCH SUCCESS, SO MUCH GOING FOR
  • 00:24:00.040 --> 00:24:01.160
  • YOU, AND, TALK TO--
  • 00:24:01.160 --> 00:24:02.110
  • WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE FOR
  • 00:24:02.140 --> 00:24:05.140
  • YOU?
  • 00:24:05.140 --> 00:24:06.020
  • - LYSA: UM, TO ME, IT WAS
  • 00:24:06.020 --> 00:24:09.000
  • GOD'S PROMISES SEEMED DOUBTFUL.
  • 00:24:09.000 --> 00:24:11.250
  • - CHAD: MMH.
  • 00:24:11.250 --> 00:24:12.290
  • - LYSA: HIS LACK OF
  • 00:24:12.290 --> 00:24:13.150
  • INTERVENTION HURTFUL...
  • 00:24:13.150 --> 00:24:14.290
  • - CHAD: MMH.
  • 00:24:14.290 --> 00:24:15.170
  • - LYSA: ...AND, HIS TIMING
  • 00:24:15.170 --> 00:24:16.110
  • QUESTIONABLE.
  • 00:24:16.110 --> 00:24:17.100
  • - CHAD: WOW...
  • 00:24:17.100 --> 00:24:18.160
  • - LYSA: AND...THOSE WERE THE
  • 00:24:19.030 --> 00:24:22.030
  • MOMENTS WHERE I WAS LIKE, "YOU
  • 00:24:22.030 --> 00:24:24.260
  • KNOW, GOD, I FEEL LIKE SOMEHOW
  • 00:24:24.260 --> 00:24:26.270
  • I HAVE FALLEN THROUGH THE
  • 00:24:26.270 --> 00:24:28.270
  • CRACKS (VOICE EMOTIONAL) OF
  • 00:24:28.270 --> 00:24:31.000
  • YOUR GOOD PLAN."
  • 00:24:31.000 --> 00:24:32.010
  • - CHAD: MMH.
  • 00:24:32.010 --> 00:24:33.180
  • - LYSA: AND I THINK A LOT OF
  • 00:24:33.180 --> 00:24:34.090
  • PEOPLE FEEL THAT WAY.
  • 00:24:34.090 --> 00:24:34.260
  • - CHAD: ABSOLUTELY.
  • 00:24:34.260 --> 00:24:35.120
  • - LYSA: I THINK-- I THINK IT'S
  • 00:24:35.120 --> 00:24:36.110
  • HARD.
  • 00:24:36.110 --> 00:24:38.020
  • I THINK THOSE THREE THINGS, YOU
  • 00:24:38.020 --> 00:24:39.120
  • KNOW, WHEN HIS PROMISES SEEM TO
  • 00:24:39.120 --> 00:24:41.180
  • APPLY TO EVERYONE ELSE AROUND
  • 00:24:41.180 --> 00:24:44.050
  • YOU, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY'RE
  • 00:24:44.050 --> 00:24:45.150
  • WALKING IN THE BLESSING OF A
  • 00:24:45.150 --> 00:24:46.080
  • PROMISE...
  • 00:24:46.080 --> 00:24:47.160
  • - CHAD: MMH.
  • 00:24:47.160 --> 00:24:48.020
  • - LYSA: ...AND YOU'RE JUST IN
  • 00:24:48.020 --> 00:24:49.160
  • THE PROCESS OF A PROMISE...
  • 00:24:49.160 --> 00:24:50.210
  • - CHAD: RIGHT.
  • 00:24:50.210 --> 00:24:51.140
  • - LYSA: ...IT FEELS UNFAIR.
  • 00:24:51.140 --> 00:24:52.180
  • - CHAD: RIGHT.
  • 00:24:52.180 --> 00:24:54.110
  • - LYSA: AND, WHEN HIS TIMING
  • 00:24:54.150 --> 00:24:57.150
  • IS SO DIFFICULT...
  • 00:24:57.150 --> 00:25:00.050
  • YOU KNOW, 2016 WAS A YEAR OF
  • 00:25:00.050 --> 00:25:01.290
  • EXTREME HIGHS AND EXTREME LOWS.
  • 00:25:01.290 --> 00:25:03.280
  • I MEAN, HERE I WAS, WALKING
  • 00:25:03.280 --> 00:25:05.210
  • THROUGH THE MOST DEVASTATING
  • 00:25:05.210 --> 00:25:08.050
  • SITUATION WITH MY HUSBAND AND
  • 00:25:08.050 --> 00:25:09.130
  • THREE OF MY FIVE KIDS GOT
  • 00:25:09.130 --> 00:25:10.290
  • MARRIED IN 2016.
  • 00:25:10.290 --> 00:25:13.180
  • - CHAD: JEEZ.
  • 00:25:13.180 --> 00:25:14.210
  • - LYSA: YOU KNOW, SO THAT--
  • 00:25:14.210 --> 00:25:15.110
  • WHEN GOD SAID, "YOU NEED TO
  • 00:25:15.110 --> 00:25:16.080
  • TRUST MY TIMING," THAT WAS A
  • 00:25:16.080 --> 00:25:16.280
  • REALLY HARD--
  • 00:25:16.280 --> 00:25:19.210
  • - CHAD: WOW.
  • 00:25:19.210 --> 00:25:20.140
  • - LYSA: IT WAS EASY IN THE
  • 00:25:20.140 --> 00:25:21.040
  • MOMENT, PRAYING AND FASTING,
  • 00:25:21.040 --> 00:25:21.240
  • LIKE, "YEA, GOD, I TRUST YOUR
  • 00:25:21.240 --> 00:25:22.270
  • TIMING," UNTIL I KNEW WHAT THAT
  • 00:25:22.270 --> 00:25:23.190
  • REALLY MEANT, RIGHT?
  • 00:25:23.200 --> 00:25:26.200
  • - CHAD: RIGHT.
  • 00:25:26.200 --> 00:25:27.260
  • - LYSA: AND SITTING IN ALL
  • 00:25:27.260 --> 00:25:29.160
  • THOSE WEDDING CEREMONIES AND
  • 00:25:29.160 --> 00:25:31.000
  • NOT TELLING MY KIDS WHAT WE
  • 00:25:31.000 --> 00:25:33.040
  • WERE GOING THROUGH BECAUSE I
  • 00:25:33.040 --> 00:25:34.280
  • DIDN'T WANNA RUIN THEIR SPECIAL
  • 00:25:34.280 --> 00:25:36.080
  • DAY, SO CARRYING IT INSIDE...
  • 00:25:36.080 --> 00:25:36.290
  • - CHAD: JEEZ...
  • 00:25:36.290 --> 00:25:38.270
  • - LYSA: ...YOU KNOW, IT WAS...
  • 00:25:38.270 --> 00:25:40.190
  • YEAH! OF COURSE, I HAD THE
  • 00:25:40.190 --> 00:25:41.210
  • DARKEST MOMENTS OF MY LIFE.
  • 00:25:41.210 --> 00:25:43.060
  • - CHAD: WOW.
  • 00:25:43.060 --> 00:25:44.090
  • - LYSA: AND...AND WHEN I FELT
  • 00:25:44.090 --> 00:25:46.140
  • LIKE GOD COULD FIX THIS, AND
  • 00:25:46.140 --> 00:25:48.160
  • YET HE WAS CHOOSING NOT
  • 00:25:48.160 --> 00:25:50.190
  • TO...THAT'S HARD.
  • 00:25:50.190 --> 00:25:52.140
  • YOU SEE, WE SERVE A REALLY GOOD
  • 00:25:52.140 --> 00:25:54.010
  • GOD.
  • 00:25:54.010 --> 00:25:55.080
  • - CHAD: YEAH.
  • 00:25:55.080 --> 00:25:55.240
  • - LYSA: BUT WE ALSO SERVE A
  • 00:25:55.240 --> 00:25:57.240
  • REALLY GOOD GOD WHO DOES ALLOW
  • 00:25:57.240 --> 00:25:59.240
  • HURT.
  • 00:25:59.240 --> 00:26:00.250
  • AND THAT'S AT THAT POINT WHERE
  • 00:26:00.250 --> 00:26:02.030
  • OUR FEELINGS AND OUR FAITH COME
  • 00:26:02.190 --> 00:26:05.190
  • IN CONFLICT SOMETIMES.
  • 00:26:05.190 --> 00:26:07.070
  • - CHAD: RIGHT.
  • 00:26:07.070 --> 00:26:08.040
  • - LYSA: AND THAT'S THOSE DARK
  • 00:26:08.040 --> 00:26:09.280
  • MOMENTS OF THE SOUL, WHERE I
  • 00:26:09.280 --> 00:26:12.150
  • DON'T-- I DON'T HAVE A QUICK,
  • 00:26:12.150 --> 00:26:14.230
  • EASY ANSWER FOR YOU, CHAD.
  • 00:26:15.060 --> 00:26:18.060
  • WHAT I CAN SAY: IT'S IN THOSE
  • 00:26:18.060 --> 00:26:21.000
  • MOMENTS WHERE I FELT MY FAITH
  • 00:26:21.000 --> 00:26:23.230
  • SLIPPING THAT I HAD TO CALL MY
  • 00:26:23.230 --> 00:26:26.140
  • FRIENDS AND SAY, "HELP ME STAND
  • 00:26:26.140 --> 00:26:28.260
  • ON YOUR FAITH TODAY."
  • 00:26:28.260 --> 00:26:31.220
  • - CHAD: YES.
  • 00:26:31.220 --> 00:26:32.110
  • - LYSA: AND, YOU WERE ONE OF
  • 00:26:32.110 --> 00:26:33.100
  • THOSE FRIENDS.
  • 00:26:33.100 --> 00:26:34.020
  • WE HAD-- WE HAD A CONVERSATION
  • 00:26:34.020 --> 00:26:35.130
  • IN THE MIDST OF SOME OF MY
  • 00:26:36.060 --> 00:26:39.060
  • DARKEST TIMES.
  • 00:26:39.060 --> 00:26:39.220
  • - CHAD: RIGHT.
  • 00:26:39.220 --> 00:26:40.070
  • - LYSA: AND, YOU KNOW, I AM
  • 00:26:40.070 --> 00:26:41.200
  • THANKFUL...I'M THANKFUL THAT,
  • 00:26:41.200 --> 00:26:43.130
  • UM...THAT I PICKED UP THE
  • 00:26:43.130 --> 00:26:44.100
  • PHONE.
  • 00:26:44.120 --> 00:26:47.120
  • - CHAD: YEAH.
  • 00:26:47.120 --> 00:26:47.280
  • - LYSA: AND I'M THANKFUL THAT
  • 00:26:47.280 --> 00:26:48.290
  • I HAD OTHER PEOPLE WHO COULD
  • 00:26:48.290 --> 00:26:50.210
  • SPEAK LIFE BACK INTO ME IN
  • 00:26:50.210 --> 00:26:53.040
  • THOSE MOMENTS.
  • 00:26:53.040 --> 00:26:55.110
  • BUT, YOU KNOW, SOME MOMENTS,
  • 00:26:55.110 --> 00:26:56.090
  • YOU'RE GONNA FEEL LIKE THE
  • 00:26:56.090 --> 00:26:58.070
  • VICTORY IS POSSIBLE, AND SOME
  • 00:26:58.070 --> 00:26:59.090
  • MOMENTS...
  • 00:26:59.090 --> 00:26:59.270
  • - CHAD: YEAH.
  • 00:26:59.270 --> 00:27:00.140
  • - LYSA: ...YOU'RE GONNA FEEL
  • 00:27:00.140 --> 00:27:01.140
  • LIKE A VICTIM OF YOUR
  • 00:27:01.140 --> 00:27:02.060
  • CIRCUMSTANCES.
  • 00:27:02.060 --> 00:27:03.160
  • AND YOU'RE NOT SURE WHICH WAY
  • 00:27:03.160 --> 00:27:04.180
  • THIS WHOLE THING'S GONNA TURN
  • 00:27:04.180 --> 00:27:05.170
  • OUT.
  • 00:27:05.170 --> 00:27:06.010
  • - CHAD: I LOVE WHAT YOU'RE
  • 00:27:06.010 --> 00:27:07.170
  • SAYING, BECAUSE I ALWAYS FEEL
  • 00:27:07.170 --> 00:27:09.030
  • LIKE THAT PROVERB IS SO TRUE:
  • 00:27:09.030 --> 00:27:10.060
  • "A MAN THAT ISOLATES HIMSELF
  • 00:27:10.060 --> 00:27:12.040
  • SEEKS HIS OWN DESIRE AND RAGES
  • 00:27:12.040 --> 00:27:13.110
  • AGAINST ALL WISDOM."
  • 00:27:13.110 --> 00:27:16.090
  • BUT, MOST OF US, WHEN WE GET
  • 00:27:16.090 --> 00:27:17.140
  • INTO A DARK PLACE, WE WANNA
  • 00:27:17.140 --> 00:27:19.010
  • HIDE, WE WANNA STAY IN BED, WE
  • 00:27:19.010 --> 00:27:21.020
  • DON'T WANNA TALK TO ANYBODY.
  • 00:27:21.020 --> 00:27:22.290
  • BUT I LOVE THAT YOU WERE SMART
  • 00:27:22.290 --> 00:27:25.230
  • ENOUGH TO GO: I'M GONNA GET
  • 00:27:25.230 --> 00:27:27.220
  • AROUND PEOPLE.
  • 00:27:27.220 --> 00:27:28.130
  • I'M GONNA PICK UP THE PHONE.
  • 00:27:28.130 --> 00:27:29.270
  • - LYSA: BUT, LET ME SAY: I DID
  • 00:27:29.270 --> 00:27:30.260
  • NOT WANT TO DO THIS, LET ME
  • 00:27:30.260 --> 00:27:33.190
  • TELL YOU.
  • 00:27:33.190 --> 00:27:34.010
  • - CHAD: SURE.
  • 00:27:34.010 --> 00:27:34.150
  • - LYSA: LIKE, I CAN ISOLATE
  • 00:27:34.150 --> 00:27:35.120
  • WITH THE BEST OF 'EM.
  • 00:27:35.120 --> 00:27:36.140
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:27:36.140 --> 00:27:36.260
  • YOU KNOW?
  • 00:27:36.260 --> 00:27:37.120
  • LET ME TELL YOU, MY MOMENTS OF
  • 00:27:37.120 --> 00:27:39.050
  • ISOLATION -- I AM NOT FASTING.
  • 00:27:39.050 --> 00:27:39.260
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:27:39.260 --> 00:27:41.020
  • I AM EATING WHATEVER I WANNA
  • 00:27:41.020 --> 00:27:43.180
  • EAT IN THOSE MOMENTS, OKAY?
  • 00:27:43.180 --> 00:27:44.080
  • - CHAD: RIGHT.
  • 00:27:44.080 --> 00:27:45.220
  • - LYSA: SO, BUT, I DID-- I DID
  • 00:27:45.220 --> 00:27:46.210
  • THIS THING.
  • 00:27:46.210 --> 00:27:49.100
  • AND IT WAS SO OUTSIDE OF MY
  • 00:27:49.100 --> 00:27:50.290
  • COMFORT ZONE AND SO NOT WHAT I
  • 00:27:50.290 --> 00:27:53.200
  • WANTED TO DO.
  • 00:27:53.200 --> 00:27:55.150
  • BUT I MADE MYSELF GO ON A
  • 00:27:55.150 --> 00:27:57.090
  • PILGRIMAGE OF...VISITING PEOPLE
  • 00:27:59.180 --> 00:28:02.200
  • WHO I KNEW I COULD-- I COULD
  • 00:28:02.200 --> 00:28:04.120
  • STAND ON THEIR FAITH...
  • 00:28:04.120 --> 00:28:05.140
  • - CHAD: MMH.
  • 00:28:05.140 --> 00:28:06.020
  • - LYSA: ...EVEN IF IT WAS JUST
  • 00:28:06.020 --> 00:28:06.240
  • FOR A COUPLE OF DAYS.
  • 00:28:06.240 --> 00:28:07.110
  • I REMEMBER I CALLED MY FRIEND
  • 00:28:07.110 --> 00:28:08.130
  • SHELLEY GIGLIO.
  • 00:28:08.130 --> 00:28:10.000
  • I WENT AND STAYED AT HER HOUSE
  • 00:28:10.000 --> 00:28:11.050
  • FOR A COUPLE OF DAYS.
  • 00:28:11.050 --> 00:28:12.000
  • - CHAD: WOW.
  • 00:28:12.000 --> 00:28:12.130
  • - LYSA: I CALLED MY FRIEND
  • 00:28:12.130 --> 00:28:13.100
  • COLETTE, WENT AND STAYED AT HER
  • 00:28:13.100 --> 00:28:14.100
  • HOUSE FOR A WEEK, AND THEN
  • 00:28:14.100 --> 00:28:16.100
  • ANOTHER WEEK.
  • 00:28:16.100 --> 00:28:17.180
  • AND THEN, IT MAY HAVE EVEN BEEN
  • 00:28:17.180 --> 00:28:18.190
  • A THIRD WEEK.
  • 00:28:18.190 --> 00:28:19.020
  • [CHAD LAUGHS]
  • 00:28:19.020 --> 00:28:19.190
  • I WENT AND VISITED FRIENDS IN
  • 00:28:19.190 --> 00:28:20.280
  • NASHVILLE.
  • 00:28:20.280 --> 00:28:22.030
  • AND, WHEN I COULDN'T DO VISIT
  • 00:28:22.030 --> 00:28:24.060
  • PEOPLE, I PICKED UP THE PHONE
  • 00:28:24.060 --> 00:28:25.060
  • AND I CALLED 'EM.
  • 00:28:25.060 --> 00:28:25.260
  • NONE OF THOSE THINGS FELT
  • 00:28:25.260 --> 00:28:27.160
  • COMFORTABLE.
  • 00:28:27.160 --> 00:28:28.050
  • BUT I WAS BLESSED EVERY SINGLE
  • 00:28:28.050 --> 00:28:29.190
  • TIME.
  • 00:28:29.190 --> 00:28:30.160
  • - CHAD: WOW.
  • 00:28:30.160 --> 00:28:31.020
  • - LYSA: IT WAS LIKE THE LORD
  • 00:28:31.020 --> 00:28:32.140
  • HAD LITTLE GIFTS FOR ME TUCKED
  • 00:28:32.140 --> 00:28:34.030
  • INSIDE THOSE PEOPLE, WAITING.
  • 00:28:34.030 --> 00:28:35.120
  • - CHAD: WOW.
  • 00:28:35.120 --> 00:28:36.130
  • - LYSA: I JUST HAD TO TAKE
  • 00:28:36.130 --> 00:28:37.130
  • THAT STEP AND MAKE THE
  • 00:28:37.130 --> 00:28:38.050
  • CONNECTION.
  • 00:28:38.050 --> 00:28:38.250
  • - CHAD: I LOVE THAT.
  • 00:28:38.250 --> 00:28:39.120
  • YOU KNOW, TALK TO ME ABOUT--
  • 00:28:39.120 --> 00:28:40.080
  • UH, AND I'M SURE YOU TOUCH ON
  • 00:28:41.010 --> 00:28:44.010
  • IT IN THE BOOK -- WHICH I CAN'T
  • 00:28:44.010 --> 00:28:45.270
  • WAIT TO READ, EVERYONE'S GONNA
  • 00:28:45.270 --> 00:28:46.180
  • READ.
  • 00:28:46.180 --> 00:28:47.240
  • CAN I GET AN AMEN?
  • 00:28:47.240 --> 00:28:48.090
  • EVERYONE'S GONNA READ?
  • 00:28:48.090 --> 00:28:49.060
  • [LAUGHTER, APPLAUSE]
  • 00:28:49.060 --> 00:28:49.260
  • YEAH, OKAY, I JUST WANNA MA--
  • 00:28:49.260 --> 00:28:50.170
  • I JUST WANNA-- I'M JUST
  • 00:28:50.170 --> 00:28:51.200
  • CHECKIN' TO MAKE SURE
  • 00:28:51.200 --> 00:28:52.070
  • THEY'RE...THEY'RE READIN' THE
  • 00:28:52.070 --> 00:28:53.050
  • BOOK.
  • 00:28:53.050 --> 00:28:55.140
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:28:55.140 --> 00:28:57.020
  • BUT, AT WHAT POINT-- AND MAYBE,
  • 00:28:57.020 --> 00:28:59.120
  • YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA GO TO A
  • 00:28:59.120 --> 00:29:00.180
  • VIDEO HERE IN A SECOND, BUT,
  • 00:29:00.180 --> 00:29:01.150
  • TALK TO ME.
  • 00:29:01.150 --> 00:29:03.010
  • AT WHAT POINT DO YOU START TO
  • 00:29:03.010 --> 00:29:04.280
  • FEEL LIKE..."I'M GONNA GET
  • 00:29:04.280 --> 00:29:07.270
  • THROUGH THIS"?
  • 00:29:07.270 --> 00:29:08.180
  • - LYSA: MMH.
  • 00:29:08.180 --> 00:29:09.270
  • - CHAD: SOMEONE SAID TO ME,
  • 00:29:09.270 --> 00:29:10.170
  • RECENTLY, "PEOPLE AREN'T AFRAID
  • 00:29:10.170 --> 00:29:12.070
  • OF FAILURE; THEY'RE AFRAID OF
  • 00:29:12.070 --> 00:29:12.280
  • THE IDENTITY OF FAILURE."
  • 00:29:12.280 --> 00:29:14.260
  • MOST OF US, WHEN WE GET TO A
  • 00:29:14.260 --> 00:29:16.270
  • DARK PLACE, WE THINK: MY
  • 00:29:16.270 --> 00:29:18.060
  • LEGACY'S RUINED.
  • 00:29:18.060 --> 00:29:19.210
  • MY FAM-- EVERYTHING I'VE BUILT.
  • 00:29:19.210 --> 00:29:21.130
  • WHEN DID YOU START TO GO,
  • 00:29:21.130 --> 00:29:24.070
  • "I CAN SENSE...
  • 00:29:24.070 --> 00:29:26.260
  • [EXHALES DEEPLY]
  • 00:29:26.260 --> 00:29:29.230
  • ...I MIGHT JUST GET THROUGH
  • 00:29:29.230 --> 00:29:30.170
  • THIS THING"?
  • 00:29:30.170 --> 00:29:31.090
  • - LYSA: OKAY, WELL, THERE'S A
  • 00:29:31.090 --> 00:29:33.180
  • MOMENT I TALK ABOUT IN THE
  • 00:29:33.180 --> 00:29:34.180
  • BOOK.
  • 00:29:34.180 --> 00:29:35.140
  • - CHAD: YEAH.
  • 00:29:35.140 --> 00:29:36.100
  • - LYSA: AND, UH, THE LORD WAS
  • 00:29:36.100 --> 00:29:37.180
  • SAYING: LYSA, I REALLY WANT YOU
  • 00:29:37.180 --> 00:29:39.150
  • TO CONQUER FEAR.
  • 00:29:39.150 --> 00:29:40.140
  • BUT FEAR AND ANXIETY -- THOSE
  • 00:29:40.140 --> 00:29:42.160
  • THINGS HAD GRIPPED ME IN THIS
  • 00:29:42.160 --> 00:29:44.080
  • SEASON, LIKE, WORSE THAN I CAN
  • 00:29:44.080 --> 00:29:46.070
  • EVER TELL YOU.
  • 00:29:46.070 --> 00:29:47.170
  • I MEAN, WHEN YOU'RE WAKING UP
  • 00:29:47.170 --> 00:29:48.250
  • FOR 20 YEARS IN YOUR LIFE AND
  • 00:29:48.250 --> 00:29:50.140
  • YOUR HUSBAND'S RIGHT BESIDE
  • 00:29:50.140 --> 00:29:52.090
  • YOU, AND, ALL OF A SUDDEN, HE'S
  • 00:29:52.090 --> 00:29:54.040
  • NOT BESIDE YOU, AND YOU WAKE UP
  • 00:29:54.040 --> 00:29:54.260
  • AT 2 AM AND YOU REACH UP ACROSS
  • 00:29:54.260 --> 00:29:56.040
  • THE COVERS AND HE'S NOT THERE,
  • 00:29:56.040 --> 00:29:57.060
  • AND YOU'RE REMINDED ALL OVER
  • 00:29:57.060 --> 00:29:59.140
  • AGAIN ABOUT JUST THE GRAVITY
  • 00:30:01.020 --> 00:30:04.020
  • OF...HEARTACHE IN YOUR LIFE,
  • 00:30:04.020 --> 00:30:05.130
  • YOU KNOW, IT'S-- IT'S PAINFUL.
  • 00:30:05.130 --> 00:30:07.010
  • - CHAD: SURE.
  • 00:30:07.010 --> 00:30:07.290
  • - LYSA: AND, FEAR AND ANXIETY
  • 00:30:07.290 --> 00:30:08.290
  • STARTED TO GRIP ME.
  • 00:30:08.290 --> 00:30:09.250
  • AND SO, ONE DAY I WOKE UP AND I
  • 00:30:09.250 --> 00:30:11.040
  • JUST FELT LIKE: YOU'VE GOT TO
  • 00:30:11.040 --> 00:30:13.100
  • DO ONE THING TO CONQUER THIS.
  • 00:30:13.100 --> 00:30:15.090
  • AND, YOU CAN'T REALLY, LIKE
  • 00:30:15.090 --> 00:30:17.220
  • SAY: I'M GONNA CONQUER FEAR,
  • 00:30:17.220 --> 00:30:18.120
  • TODAY.
  • 00:30:18.120 --> 00:30:18.250
  • RIGHT?
  • 00:30:18.250 --> 00:30:19.080
  • - CHAD: RIGHT.
  • 00:30:19.080 --> 00:30:20.270
  • - LYSA: SO, I DECIDED TO DRIVE
  • 00:30:20.270 --> 00:30:21.190
  • TO TARGET AND BUY A TWO-PIECE
  • 00:30:21.190 --> 00:30:23.100
  • BATHING SUIT, WHICH, I HAVE TO
  • 00:30:23.100 --> 00:30:24.090
  • SAY, DOES NOT LINE UP WITH MY
  • 00:30:24.090 --> 00:30:27.090
  • BIOLOGY OR MY THEOLOGY, THANK
  • 00:30:27.200 --> 00:30:30.200
  • YOU VERY MUCH.
  • 00:30:30.200 --> 00:30:32.180
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:30:32.180 --> 00:30:33.060
  • BUT, I KNEW I WAS AFRAID OF
  • 00:30:33.060 --> 00:30:33.260
  • THAT, AND I KNEW I COULD DO IT
  • 00:30:33.260 --> 00:30:34.170
  • TODAY.
  • 00:30:34.170 --> 00:30:34.260
  • - CHAD: MMH.
  • 00:30:34.260 --> 00:30:35.180
  • - LYSA: SO, I DROVE-- I GOT
  • 00:30:35.180 --> 00:30:36.190
  • THIS TWO-PIECE BATHING SUIT
  • 00:30:36.190 --> 00:30:37.210
  • FROM TARGET.
  • 00:30:37.210 --> 00:30:38.260
  • AS I WAS DRIVING HOME, I RIPPED
  • 00:30:38.260 --> 00:30:40.120
  • THE TAGS OFF SO I COULDN'T
  • 00:30:40.120 --> 00:30:42.000
  • RETURN IT.
  • 00:30:42.000 --> 00:30:42.190
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:30:42.190 --> 00:30:43.040
  • I WENT IN MY BEDROOM, I PUT
  • 00:30:43.040 --> 00:30:44.120
  • THIS BATHING SUIT ON, AND THEN
  • 00:30:44.120 --> 00:30:47.080
  • I HAD A CRISIS.
  • 00:30:47.080 --> 00:30:49.100
  • BECAUSE, IT WASN'T PUTTING THE
  • 00:30:49.150 --> 00:30:52.150
  • BATHING SUIT ON THAT I WAS SO
  • 00:30:52.150 --> 00:30:53.170
  • AFRAID OF; IT WAS TURNING
  • 00:30:53.170 --> 00:30:56.040
  • TOWARD THE MIRROR AND FACING
  • 00:30:56.040 --> 00:30:56.240
  • MYSELF.
  • 00:30:56.240 --> 00:30:58.060
  • [VOICE BREAKS]
  • 00:30:58.060 --> 00:31:00.050
  • - CHAD: MMH.
  • 00:31:00.050 --> 00:31:01.260
  • - LYSA: (EMOTIONAL VOICE) AND,
  • 00:31:01.260 --> 00:31:02.250
  • MY SCAR FROM MY SURGERY AND
  • 00:31:02.250 --> 00:31:03.150
  • JUST...THE REALITY THAT...
  • 00:31:03.150 --> 00:31:04.160
  • IN GENESIS 2:25, ONE OF MY
  • 00:31:04.250 --> 00:31:07.250
  • FAVORITE VERSES, IT SAYS THAT
  • 00:31:07.250 --> 00:31:09.160
  • ADAM AND EVE STOOD THERE NAKED
  • 00:31:09.160 --> 00:31:11.030
  • AND UNASHAMED.
  • 00:31:11.030 --> 00:31:13.290
  • - CHAD: MMH.
  • 00:31:13.290 --> 00:31:14.270
  • - LYSA: AND THE REASON ADAM
  • 00:31:14.270 --> 00:31:15.200
  • AND EVE COULD STAND THERE NAKED
  • 00:31:15.200 --> 00:31:17.050
  • AND UNASHAMED IS BECAUSE THEY
  • 00:31:17.050 --> 00:31:18.170
  • HAD NO OTHER OPINION TO CONTEND
  • 00:31:18.170 --> 00:31:20.240
  • WITH BUT THE ABSOLUTE LOVE OF
  • 00:31:20.240 --> 00:31:23.040
  • GOD HIMSELF.
  • 00:31:23.240 --> 00:31:26.240
  • AND THAT WAS MY DAY--
  • 00:31:26.240 --> 00:31:27.170
  • - CHAD: WOW.
  • 00:31:27.170 --> 00:31:28.160
  • - LYSA: --TO SAY: LYSA, ARE
  • 00:31:28.160 --> 00:31:30.020
  • YOU GONNA BE ABLE TO SILENCE
  • 00:31:30.020 --> 00:31:31.010
  • ALL THE OTHER VOICES?
  • 00:31:31.010 --> 00:31:33.150
  • IT WASN'T GOD'S VOICE THAT
  • 00:31:33.150 --> 00:31:34.160
  • DIDN'T WANT ME TO TURN TOWARD
  • 00:31:34.160 --> 00:31:35.230
  • THE MIRROR.
  • 00:31:35.230 --> 00:31:37.130
  • IT WASN'T EVEN MY OWN VOICE.
  • 00:31:37.130 --> 00:31:38.210
  • IT WAS ALL THE VOICES OF
  • 00:31:38.210 --> 00:31:40.140
  • REJECTION, ALL THE VOICES OF
  • 00:31:40.140 --> 00:31:41.230
  • HEARTACHE, ALL THE VOICES
  • 00:31:41.230 --> 00:31:43.220
  • FEEDING THAT ANXIETY IN ME THAT
  • 00:31:43.220 --> 00:31:46.000
  • "I CANNOT STAND HERE NAKED AND
  • 00:31:46.000 --> 00:31:47.290
  • UNASHAMED."
  • 00:31:47.290 --> 00:31:48.210
  • - CHAD: WOW.
  • 00:31:48.210 --> 00:31:49.180
  • - LYSA: AND, I REMEMBER
  • 00:31:49.180 --> 00:31:51.250
  • FIGHTING THOSE VOICES.
  • 00:31:51.250 --> 00:31:53.130
  • ONE BY ONE, I WOULD ASK THE
  • 00:31:53.130 --> 00:31:54.210
  • LORD, "BRING TO MIND THOSE
  • 00:31:54.210 --> 00:31:56.130
  • VOICES OF REJECTION."
  • 00:31:56.130 --> 00:31:58.190
  • YOU SEE, REJECTION STEALS THE
  • 00:31:58.190 --> 00:31:59.270
  • BEST OF WHO WE ARE BY
  • 00:31:59.270 --> 00:32:00.230
  • REINFORCING THE WORST THAT'S
  • 00:32:00.230 --> 00:32:03.010
  • BEEN SAID TO US.
  • 00:32:03.010 --> 00:32:04.040
  • - CHAD: MMH.
  • 00:32:04.040 --> 00:32:04.190
  • - LYSA: AND SO, I LET THE LORD
  • 00:32:04.190 --> 00:32:05.250
  • ADDRESS EVERY SINGLE VOICE OF
  • 00:32:05.250 --> 00:32:06.230
  • REJECTION.
  • 00:32:06.230 --> 00:32:08.060
  • AND, FINALLY, AFTER ALL OF 'EM
  • 00:32:08.060 --> 00:32:10.100
  • HAD BEEN ADDRESSED, I TURNED
  • 00:32:10.100 --> 00:32:11.000
  • AND I FACED THE MIRROR...
  • 00:32:13.090 --> 00:32:16.090
  • - CHAD: WOW.
  • 00:32:16.090 --> 00:32:17.060
  • - LYSA: (VOICE BREAKING)...AND
  • 00:32:17.060 --> 00:32:18.210
  • I STOOD THERE -- NOT COMPLETELY
  • 00:32:18.210 --> 00:32:19.130
  • NAKED -- OKAY? -- BUT IN MY
  • 00:32:19.130 --> 00:32:20.070
  • TWO-PIECE BATHING SUIT.
  • 00:32:20.070 --> 00:32:21.180
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:32:21.180 --> 00:32:23.180
  • - CHAD: FROM TARGET.
  • 00:32:23.180 --> 00:32:24.050
  • - LYSA: AND THEN, I FELT SO
  • 00:32:24.050 --> 00:32:24.250
  • EMPOWERED, I THOUGHT: WELL, I'M
  • 00:32:24.250 --> 00:32:25.170
  • JUST GONNA GO SIT BY THE POOL.
  • 00:32:25.170 --> 00:32:26.080
  • "JESUS, TAKE THE WHEEL."
  • 00:32:26.080 --> 00:32:27.020
  • HE DID.
  • 00:32:27.020 --> 00:32:27.270
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:32:27.270 --> 00:32:29.190
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:32:29.190 --> 00:32:30.120
  • AND I DID NOT WALK OUTSIDE.
  • 00:32:30.120 --> 00:32:31.140
  • IT WAS JUST A MOMENT BETWEEN ME
  • 00:32:31.140 --> 00:32:32.290
  • AND THE LORD.
  • 00:32:32.290 --> 00:32:34.030
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:32:34.030 --> 00:32:35.010
  • I PACKED UP THAT TWO-PIECE
  • 00:32:35.010 --> 00:32:36.050
  • BATHING SUIT AND CALLED IT MY
  • 00:32:36.050 --> 00:32:37.220
  • FEAR LESSON AND I HAVEN'T PUT
  • 00:32:37.220 --> 00:32:38.130
  • IT ON SINCE.
  • 00:32:38.130 --> 00:32:39.190
  • BUT IT WAS QUITE A MOMENT.
  • 00:32:39.190 --> 00:32:41.030
  • - CHAD: WELL, YOU'RE A HERO.
  • 00:32:41.030 --> 00:32:42.110
  • THAT-- FOR YOU TO BE ABLE TO DO
  • 00:32:43.220 --> 00:32:46.220
  • THAT AND TO SILENCE THOSE
  • 00:32:46.220 --> 00:32:48.200
  • VOICES AND LET THE LORD--
  • 00:32:48.200 --> 00:32:50.100
  • IT'S ONE THING FOR US TO THINK:
  • 00:32:50.100 --> 00:32:51.130
  • I'M GONNA SILENCE THESE
  • 00:32:51.130 --> 00:32:53.000
  • CRITICS.
  • 00:32:53.000 --> 00:32:53.250
  • BUT, FOR YOU TO LET THE LORD
  • 00:32:53.250 --> 00:32:55.090
  • AND THE HOLY SPIRIT DO THAT --
  • 00:32:55.090 --> 00:32:56.000
  • WE'RE TALKIN' TODAY ABOUT YOUR
  • 00:32:58.060 --> 00:32:59.160
  • NEW BOOK, "IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO
  • 00:32:59.160 --> 00:33:00.100
  • BE THIS WAY."
  • 00:33:00.100 --> 00:33:01.210
  • I WANT EVERYONE TO CHECK OUT
  • 00:33:01.210 --> 00:33:02.150
  • THIS VIDEO.
  • 00:33:02.150 --> 00:33:03.190
  • WATCH THIS -- MORE ABOUT THE
  • 00:33:03.190 --> 00:33:04.280
  • BOOK.
  • 00:33:04.280 --> 00:33:07.000
  • - LYSA: DISAPPOINTMENT IS A
  • 00:33:07.000 --> 00:33:07.220
  • FEELING WE ALL HAVE, BUT FEW OF
  • 00:33:07.220 --> 00:33:09.020
  • US KNOW HOW TO PROCESS IT, WHAT
  • 00:33:09.020 --> 00:33:10.040
  • TO DO ABOUT IT, AND, MOST
  • 00:33:10.040 --> 00:33:11.110
  • IMPORTANTLY, HOW TO FIND GOD'S
  • 00:33:11.110 --> 00:33:12.210
  • GOODNESS AND WISDOM IN THE
  • 00:33:12.210 --> 00:33:14.140
  • [MUSIC]
  • 00:33:17.180 --> 00:33:18.110
  • DISAPPOINTMENT COMES IN VARYING
  • 00:33:18.110 --> 00:33:19.030
  • DEGREES OF PAIN.
  • 00:33:19.030 --> 00:33:19.170
  • SOMETIMES WE STRUGGLE OVER
  • 00:33:19.170 --> 00:33:20.090
  • SMALL DISAPPOINTMENTS, LIKE,
  • 00:33:20.090 --> 00:33:21.180
  • I DON'T KNOW, LIKE A CRAZY
  • 00:33:21.180 --> 00:33:22.270
  • HAIRCUT OR A MISSED
  • 00:33:22.270 --> 00:33:24.070
  • OPPORTUNITY.
  • 00:33:24.070 --> 00:33:24.250
  • BUT OTHER TIMES, THE
  • 00:33:24.250 --> 00:33:26.180
  • DISAPPOINTMENTS ARE MUCH MORE
  • 00:33:26.180 --> 00:33:28.110
  • DISILLUSIONING AND SOMETIMES
  • 00:33:28.110 --> 00:33:30.100
  • EVEN DEVASTATING: A FRIEND THAT
  • 00:33:30.100 --> 00:33:31.260
  • SUDDENLY GOES SILENT; A CHILD
  • 00:33:31.260 --> 00:33:33.130
  • THAT STARTS TO MAKE DECISIONS
  • 00:33:33.170 --> 00:33:36.170
  • SO OPPOSITE FROM THE WAY YOU
  • 00:33:36.170 --> 00:33:38.180
  • RAISED THEM; A JOB LOSS WITHOUT
  • 00:33:38.180 --> 00:33:41.150
  • ANY NEW POSSIBILITIES ON THE
  • 00:33:41.150 --> 00:33:42.050
  • HORIZON; A BETRAYAL FROM
  • 00:33:42.050 --> 00:33:42.230
  • SOMEONE YOU THOUGHT WAS
  • 00:33:42.230 --> 00:33:44.160
  • COMPLETELY TRUSTWORTHY.
  • 00:33:44.160 --> 00:33:45.240
  • THAT DISAPPOINTMENT THAT YOU'RE
  • 00:33:45.240 --> 00:33:47.130
  • WALKING THROUGH -- BIG OR SMALL
  • 00:33:47.130 --> 00:33:49.020
  • -- THAT ACHE IN YOUR HEART,
  • 00:33:49.020 --> 00:33:51.160
  • THAT SEEMINGLY NEVER-ENDING
  • 00:33:51.160 --> 00:33:54.120
  • STRUGGLE THAT YOU DON'T KNOW
  • 00:33:54.120 --> 00:33:55.280
  • HOW TO MAKE BETTER?
  • 00:33:55.290 --> 00:33:58.290
  • WELL, YOU FINALLY FOUND A SAFE
  • 00:33:58.290 --> 00:33:59.200
  • PLACE TO PROCESS THESE THINGS.
  • 00:33:59.200 --> 00:34:01.160
  • "IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE THIS
  • 00:34:01.160 --> 00:34:02.230
  • WAY" -- IT ISN'T JUST A BOOK I
  • 00:34:02.230 --> 00:34:05.020
  • WROTE; IT'S A MESSAGE I'VE
  • 00:34:05.020 --> 00:34:07.100
  • WALKED THROUGH, SOMETIMES
  • 00:34:07.100 --> 00:34:08.060
  • CRAWLED THROUGH.
  • 00:34:08.060 --> 00:34:10.140
  • BUT I SURVIVED -- AND YOU WILL,
  • 00:34:10.140 --> 00:34:12.070
  • TOO.
  • 00:34:12.070 --> 00:34:13.170
  • [MELANCHOLY MUSIC]
  • 00:34:13.270 --> 00:34:16.270
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:34:16.270 --> 00:34:18.070
  • - CHAD: WOW.
  • 00:34:18.070 --> 00:34:20.180
  • "IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE THIS
  • 00:34:24.020 --> 00:34:25.110
  • WAY" -- I'M HERE WITH MY
  • 00:34:25.110 --> 00:34:27.180
  • GOOD FRIEND AND AUTHOR LORD
  • 00:34:27.180 --> 00:34:29.040
  • LYSA TERKEURST.
  • 00:34:29.040 --> 00:34:30.230
  • WE HAVE BEEN HAVING A RIVETING
  • 00:34:30.230 --> 00:34:32.190
  • CONVERSATION.
  • 00:34:32.190 --> 00:34:33.270
  • AGAIN, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR
  • 00:34:33.270 --> 00:34:34.170
  • COMIN' ON.
  • 00:34:34.170 --> 00:34:35.160
  • AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR
  • 00:34:35.160 --> 00:34:36.130
  • TELLING YOUR STORY AND WRITING
  • 00:34:36.130 --> 00:34:37.080
  • THIS BOOK.
  • 00:34:37.080 --> 00:34:39.010
  • I WANNA PICK UP WHERE WE LEFT
  • 00:34:39.010 --> 00:34:40.150
  • OFF.
  • 00:34:40.150 --> 00:34:41.080
  • 'CAUSE WE WERE JUST TALKING--
  • 00:34:41.080 --> 00:34:42.130
  • YOU HAD AN AMAZING STORY ABOUT
  • 00:34:42.130 --> 00:34:43.210
  • TARGET AND A BATHING SUIT.
  • 00:34:43.210 --> 00:34:45.000
  • YOU'LL HAVE TO...CATCH UP ON
  • 00:34:45.000 --> 00:34:46.220
  • DVR.
  • 00:34:46.220 --> 00:34:47.130
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:34:47.130 --> 00:34:47.280
  • ANYWAYS...UM...
  • 00:34:47.280 --> 00:34:48.280
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:34:48.280 --> 00:34:50.040
  • - LYSA: OR NOT.
  • 00:34:50.040 --> 00:34:50.260
  • - CHAD: OR NOT.
  • 00:34:50.260 --> 00:34:51.140
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:34:51.140 --> 00:34:53.010
  • I WANNA GO BACK TO-- YOU SAID A
  • 00:34:53.010 --> 00:34:53.240
  • REALLY STRONG WORD THAT JUMPED
  • 00:34:53.240 --> 00:34:55.200
  • OUT -- AND THAT'S THE WORD
  • 00:34:55.200 --> 00:34:57.020
  • "REJECTION."
  • 00:34:57.020 --> 00:34:57.260
  • - LYSA: MM-HMM.
  • 00:34:57.260 --> 00:34:59.030
  • - CHAD: AND HERE YOU ARE --
  • 00:34:59.030 --> 00:35:00.210
  • YOU'RE FACING REJECTION FROM
  • 00:35:00.210 --> 00:35:01.110
  • THE ONE THAT YOU SHOULD HAVE
  • 00:35:01.110 --> 00:35:04.000
  • THE MOST ACCEPTANCE WITH, YOUR
  • 00:35:04.000 --> 00:35:04.290
  • SPOUSE.
  • 00:35:04.290 --> 00:35:06.210
  • AND, YOU'RE GOING THROUGH
  • 00:35:06.210 --> 00:35:08.170
  • THIS...I MEAN, WE ALL FACE
  • 00:35:08.170 --> 00:35:11.060
  • REJECTION, BUT NOT AT THIS
  • 00:35:11.060 --> 00:35:13.020
  • RATE, AT THIS LEVEL.
  • 00:35:13.020 --> 00:35:15.120
  • HOW DID YOU SORT THAT?
  • 00:35:15.120 --> 00:35:16.130
  • HOW DID YOU GET YOUR IDENTITY,
  • 00:35:16.130 --> 00:35:19.030
  • AND YOUR SECURITY, YOUR
  • 00:35:19.030 --> 00:35:19.280
  • CONFIDENCE BACK?
  • 00:35:19.280 --> 00:35:21.030
  • - LYSA: I THINK I'M STILL
  • 00:35:21.030 --> 00:35:21.230
  • WORKING ON THAT.
  • 00:35:21.230 --> 00:35:23.010
  • - CHAD: MMH.
  • 00:35:23.010 --> 00:35:24.020
  • - LYSA: UM...YOU KNOW, WHAT'S
  • 00:35:24.020 --> 00:35:25.020
  • REALLY COMPLICATED IS I WROTE A
  • 00:35:25.020 --> 00:35:28.020
  • BOOK -- "UNINVITED" -- IN 2015
  • 00:35:28.200 --> 00:35:31.200
  • THAT, UM, WAS COMING OUT IN
  • 00:35:31.200 --> 00:35:34.110
  • 2016.
  • 00:35:34.110 --> 00:35:36.010
  • - CHAD: WOW.
  • 00:35:36.010 --> 00:35:37.230
  • - LYSA: AND SO, RIGHT AFTER I
  • 00:35:37.230 --> 00:35:39.020
  • FOUND OUT, UH, WHAT WAS GOING
  • 00:35:39.020 --> 00:35:41.260
  • ON IN MY MARRIAGE-- UH, THAT
  • 00:35:41.260 --> 00:35:43.230
  • IN MARCH OF 2016, MY ROUGH
  • 00:35:47.050 --> 00:35:47.240
  • DRAFT PAGES FROM THE BOOK
  • 00:35:48.290 --> 00:35:51.290
  • "UNINVITED" CAME TO ME.
  • 00:35:51.290 --> 00:35:54.270
  • AND, I REMEMBER JUST WEEPING
  • 00:35:55.010 --> 00:35:58.010
  • AND ASKING GOD, "WHY WOULD YOU
  • 00:35:58.010 --> 00:35:59.050
  • HAVE ME WRITE A BOOK ON
  • 00:35:59.050 --> 00:36:02.070
  • REJECTION AND NOW I'M GONNA
  • 00:36:02.070 --> 00:36:04.210
  • HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THIS BOOK
  • 00:36:04.210 --> 00:36:06.020
  • THAT I'VE WRITTEN ON
  • 00:36:06.020 --> 00:36:07.010
  • REJECTION..."
  • 00:36:07.010 --> 00:36:07.180
  • - CHAD: JEEZ.
  • 00:36:07.180 --> 00:36:08.160
  • - LYSA: "...AND NOW I'M GONNA
  • 00:36:08.160 --> 00:36:09.200
  • BE WALKING THROUGH THE WORST
  • 00:36:09.200 --> 00:36:11.100
  • REJECTION OF MY LIFE -- LIKE,
  • 00:36:11.100 --> 00:36:12.200
  • WHY WOULD YOU ALLOW ME TO DO
  • 00:36:12.200 --> 00:36:13.100
  • THAT?"
  • 00:36:13.100 --> 00:36:14.100
  • AND, I FELT LIKE THE LORD WAS
  • 00:36:15.180 --> 00:36:18.180
  • JUST STIRRING IN MY HEART: HE
  • 00:36:18.180 --> 00:36:19.090
  • WASN'T DOING THIS TO ME; HE WAS
  • 00:36:19.090 --> 00:36:21.050
  • DOING THIS FOR ME.
  • 00:36:21.050 --> 00:36:22.040
  • - CHAD: WOW.
  • 00:36:22.040 --> 00:36:23.040
  • - LYSA: YOU KNOW, HE HAD ME
  • 00:36:23.040 --> 00:36:24.010
  • WRITE THE BOOK LAST YEAR THAT I
  • 00:36:24.010 --> 00:36:25.210
  • WOULD NEED THIS YEAR SO
  • 00:36:25.210 --> 00:36:26.200
  • DESPERATELY.
  • 00:36:26.200 --> 00:36:27.070
  • I MEAN, HE HAD ME STUDYING
  • 00:36:27.070 --> 00:36:28.230
  • REJECTION, AND THE BIBLICAL
  • 00:36:28.230 --> 00:36:30.190
  • RESPONSE TO REJECTION, AND
  • 00:36:30.190 --> 00:36:33.140
  • GOD'S TENDERNESS TO US IN OUR
  • 00:36:33.140 --> 00:36:36.050
  • REJECTION, AND HIS COMPASSION
  • 00:36:36.050 --> 00:36:36.260
  • FOR THE REJECTED.
  • 00:36:36.260 --> 00:36:38.020
  • HE HAD MY STUDYING THAT FOR TWO
  • 00:36:38.020 --> 00:36:38.240
  • YEARS.
  • 00:36:38.240 --> 00:36:40.050
  • AND SO, HE-- HE WASN'T DOING
  • 00:36:40.050 --> 00:36:42.040
  • THIS TO ME; HE WAS ENTRUSTING
  • 00:36:42.040 --> 00:36:43.140
  • ME WITH THIS.
  • 00:36:43.140 --> 00:36:44.240
  • - CHAD: WOW.
  • 00:36:44.240 --> 00:36:45.150
  • - LYSA: AND, UM...AND, I JUST
  • 00:36:46.080 --> 00:36:49.080
  • REMEMBER SPREADING THOSE PAGES
  • 00:36:49.080 --> 00:36:50.280
  • OUT, WEEPING -- WEEPING OVER
  • 00:36:50.280 --> 00:36:53.190
  • THE WORDS THAT GOD HAD GIVEN
  • 00:36:53.190 --> 00:36:55.020
  • ME.
  • 00:36:55.020 --> 00:36:56.080
  • AND NOW, THAT PERSON I
  • 00:36:56.090 --> 00:36:59.090
  • PICTURED THAT I WAS WRITING THE
  • 00:36:59.090 --> 00:37:00.120
  • BOOK FOR?
  • 00:37:00.120 --> 00:37:00.250
  • IT WAS ME.
  • 00:37:00.250 --> 00:37:01.150
  • - CHAD: WOW.
  • 00:37:01.150 --> 00:37:02.090
  • - LYSA: IT WAS ME.
  • 00:37:02.090 --> 00:37:03.070
  • AND SO, EVEN IN THAT, THE LORD
  • 00:37:03.070 --> 00:37:05.050
  • BUT I THINK REJECTION IS SO
  • 00:37:08.020 --> 00:37:11.020
  • HARD, BECAUSE, IN HUMAN
  • 00:37:11.200 --> 00:37:14.200
  • RELATIONSHIPS, WE DON'T KNOW
  • 00:37:14.200 --> 00:37:16.060
  • WHAT TO DO WHEN SOMEONE'S BEEN
  • 00:37:16.060 --> 00:37:17.030
  • REJECTED.
  • 00:37:17.030 --> 00:37:18.200
  • IF SOMEONE DIES, WE KNOW HOW TO
  • 00:37:19.090 --> 00:37:22.090
  • RALLY AROUND THE LEFT BEHIND...
  • 00:37:22.090 --> 00:37:24.030
  • - CHAD: RIGHT.
  • 00:37:24.030 --> 00:37:25.030
  • - LYSA: ...WHEN SOMEONE DIES,
  • 00:37:25.030 --> 00:37:26.040
  • RIGHT?
  • 00:37:26.040 --> 00:37:26.270
  • WE KNOW HOW TO HAVE A MARKED
  • 00:37:26.270 --> 00:37:28.290
  • MOMENT.
  • 00:37:28.290 --> 00:37:30.000
  • WE KNOW HOW TO CELEBRATE WHAT
  • 00:37:30.000 --> 00:37:31.000
  • WAS AND THEN HELP THAT PERSON
  • 00:37:31.000 --> 00:37:31.270
  • IN GRIEF WALK TOWARD WHAT WILL
  • 00:37:31.270 --> 00:37:32.180
  • BUT, WITH REJECTION, THERE IS
  • 00:37:37.040 --> 00:37:37.250
  • NO MARKED MOMENT.
  • 00:37:37.250 --> 00:37:39.170
  • THERE IS NO CELEBRATION OF WHAT
  • 00:37:39.170 --> 00:37:41.140
  • WAS.
  • 00:37:41.140 --> 00:37:42.250
  • THERE'S JUST A SHATTERING OF
  • 00:37:42.250 --> 00:37:43.210
  • WHAT YOU THOUGHT WOULD BE.
  • 00:37:43.210 --> 00:37:44.100
  • - CHAD: MMH!
  • 00:37:44.100 --> 00:37:44.270
  • - LYSA: AND IT'S-- IT'S JUST
  • 00:37:44.270 --> 00:37:45.260
  • SO IMPOSSIBLY HARD BECAUSE THAT
  • 00:37:45.260 --> 00:37:46.290
  • OTHER PERSON IS STILL LIVING
  • 00:37:46.290 --> 00:37:48.200
  • AND BREATHING.
  • 00:37:48.210 --> 00:37:51.210
  • AND-- AND WHAT IS THE HARDEST,
  • 00:37:51.210 --> 00:37:54.210
  • I THINK, IS WHEN SOMEONE DIES,
  • 00:37:54.210 --> 00:37:55.160
  • AT LEAST YOU KNOW THAT THEY
  • 00:37:55.160 --> 00:37:58.110
  • DIDN'T WANNA GO AWAY AND YOU
  • 00:37:58.110 --> 00:37:59.170
  • DIDN'T WANT THEM TO GO AWAY.
  • 00:37:59.170 --> 00:38:00.280
  • BUT IN REJECTION, THAT OTHER
  • 00:38:00.280 --> 00:38:02.100
  • PERSON MAY ACTUALLY HAVE BEEN
  • 00:38:02.100 --> 00:38:04.210
  • HAPPY TO HAVE WALKED AWAY.
  • 00:38:04.210 --> 00:38:06.060
  • - CHAD: RIGHT.
  • 00:38:06.060 --> 00:38:06.220
  • - LYSA: AND THAT'S WHAT'S SO
  • 00:38:06.220 --> 00:38:07.170
  • HARD.
  • 00:38:07.170 --> 00:38:08.010
  • - CHAD: SURE.
  • 00:38:08.010 --> 00:38:08.140
  • - LYSA: AND THEN, HOW DO YOU
  • 00:38:08.140 --> 00:38:10.270
  • PICK UP THE PIECES AND MOVE ON
  • 00:38:10.270 --> 00:38:13.200
  • WHEN THE FUTURE YOU HAD PLANNED
  • 00:38:13.200 --> 00:38:15.030
  • NO LONGER APPLIES 'CAUSE THAT
  • 00:38:15.030 --> 00:38:16.200
  • PERSON'S NOT THERE?
  • 00:38:16.200 --> 00:38:18.260
  • - CHAD: WOW.
  • 00:38:18.260 --> 00:38:19.140
  • - LYSA: IT'S A DEEP GRIEF.
  • 00:38:19.140 --> 00:38:20.050
  • IT'S A COMPLICATED GRIEF.
  • 00:38:20.050 --> 00:38:20.240
  • AND, IT'S SOMETHING THAT, UM, I
  • 00:38:20.240 --> 00:38:21.230
  • THINK I'M STILL PROCESSING.
  • 00:38:21.250 --> 00:38:24.250
  • - CHAD: ABSOLUTELY.
  • 00:38:24.250 --> 00:38:25.220
  • SO, YOU FACE REJECTION, AND,
  • 00:38:25.220 --> 00:38:27.260
  • UH, YOU GO THROUGH PHYSICAL
  • 00:38:27.260 --> 00:38:30.090
  • PAIN.
  • 00:38:30.090 --> 00:38:31.160
  • AND, YOU KNOW, I LOVE THE
  • 00:38:31.160 --> 00:38:33.180
  • PILGRIMAGE.
  • 00:38:33.180 --> 00:38:34.290
  • THAT'S SO GREAT THAT YOU GO SEE
  • 00:38:34.290 --> 00:38:36.180
  • THESE FRIENDS.
  • 00:38:36.180 --> 00:38:37.030
  • BUT THEN, YOU GO BACK HOME AND
  • 00:38:37.030 --> 00:38:39.130
  • THERE'S STILL NOBODY LAYING
  • 00:38:39.130 --> 00:38:40.250
  • NEXT TO YOU IN BED...
  • 00:38:40.250 --> 00:38:42.210
  • - LYSA: THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:38:42.210 --> 00:38:43.080
  • AND, TO COMPOUND THAT, YOU
  • 00:38:43.080 --> 00:38:44.080
  • KNOW, I WENT FROM HAVING A VERY
  • 00:38:44.080 --> 00:38:46.220
  • BUSY HOME LIFE AND WE RAISED
  • 00:38:46.220 --> 00:38:49.130
  • FIVE KIDS.
  • 00:38:49.130 --> 00:38:50.280
  • WELL, THE LAST KID LEFT HOME.
  • 00:38:51.010 --> 00:38:54.010
  • AND SO, NOW I'M FACING
  • 00:38:54.010 --> 00:38:56.130
  • LITERALLY AN EMPTY NEST.
  • 00:38:56.240 --> 00:38:59.240
  • - CHAD: WOW.
  • 00:38:59.240 --> 00:39:00.100
  • - LYSA: AND SO, IT WAS JUST--
  • 00:39:00.100 --> 00:39:01.210
  • IT WAS SO HARD.
  • 00:39:01.210 --> 00:39:02.210
  • I DON'T LIKE BEING ALONE.
  • 00:39:02.210 --> 00:39:04.140
  • I MEAN, I REALLY DON'T LIKE
  • 00:39:04.140 --> 00:39:05.070
  • BEING ALONE.
  • 00:39:05.070 --> 00:39:05.230
  • I LIKE HAVING MY ALONE TIME.
  • 00:39:05.230 --> 00:39:07.260
  • - CHAD: RIGHT.
  • 00:39:07.260 --> 00:39:08.110
  • - LYSA: BUT I LIKE FOR SOME
  • 00:39:08.110 --> 00:39:09.110
  • OTHER HUMAN TO BE--
  • 00:39:09.110 --> 00:39:10.190
  • - CHAD: YEAH, YEAH.
  • 00:39:10.190 --> 00:39:11.290
  • - LYSA: --IN THE VICINITY THAT
  • 00:39:11.290 --> 00:39:12.210
  • IF I SCREAM THEY WILL COME AND
  • 00:39:12.210 --> 00:39:13.120
  • HELP ME.
  • 00:39:13.120 --> 00:39:13.220
  • - CHAD: RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT,
  • 00:39:13.220 --> 00:39:14.130
  • RIGHT.
  • 00:39:14.130 --> 00:39:14.220
  • RIGHT.
  • 00:39:14.220 --> 00:39:15.080
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:39:15.080 --> 00:39:16.070
  • - LYSA: SO, THIS WAS A WHOLE
  • 00:39:16.070 --> 00:39:16.280
  • 'NOTHER LEVEL OF, UM...OF
  • 00:39:16.280 --> 00:39:17.240
  • LONELY AND OF, UM...BEING WITH
  • 00:39:21.070 --> 00:39:24.070
  • THE LORD IN UTTER QUIET TIME.
  • 00:39:24.070 --> 00:39:26.120
  • - CHAD: WOW.
  • 00:39:26.120 --> 00:39:27.060
  • [SUCKS AIR THROUGH TEETH]
  • 00:39:27.060 --> 00:39:29.100
  • YOU KNOW, UM, I DON'T THINK YOU
  • 00:39:29.100 --> 00:39:30.250
  • COULD HAVE CHOSEN A BETTER
  • 00:39:30.250 --> 00:39:31.220
  • TITLE.
  • 00:39:31.220 --> 00:39:34.080
  • 'CAUSE AS YOU'RE TELLING THE
  • 00:39:34.080 --> 00:39:35.050
  • STORY, I AM THINKING, FOR YOUR
  • 00:39:35.050 --> 00:39:36.010
  • LIFE, THIS IS NOT SUPPOSED TO
  • 00:39:36.010 --> 00:39:37.110
  • THIS SHOULDN'T HAPPEN TO YOU.
  • 00:39:41.140 --> 00:39:44.110
  • MAYBE, ONE, UM, YOU KNOW,
  • 00:39:44.110 --> 00:39:45.210
  • PHYSICAL PAIN AND YOU HAVE A
  • 00:39:45.210 --> 00:39:46.110
  • SURGERY, BUT, TALK TO ME ABOUT
  • 00:39:47.110 --> 00:39:50.110
  • YOU KNOW,
  • 00:39:50.110 --> 00:39:51.040
  • THE OLD SAYING "WHEN IT RAINS,
  • 00:39:51.040 --> 00:39:51.270
  • IT POURS."
  • 00:39:51.270 --> 00:39:52.260
  • - LYSA: YEAH.
  • 00:39:52.260 --> 00:39:53.150
  • - CHAD: HOW DID YOU CONTINUE
  • 00:39:53.150 --> 00:39:54.060
  • TO, UM...READ THE BIBLE?
  • 00:39:54.200 --> 00:39:57.200
  • DID YOU DO THAT?
  • 00:39:57.200 --> 00:39:58.250
  • UM...GO TO CHURCH?
  • 00:39:58.250 --> 00:40:00.240
  • UM, BE AROUND COMMU--
  • 00:40:00.240 --> 00:40:03.130
  • HOW DID YOU CONTINUE TO GO-- DO
  • 00:40:03.130 --> 00:40:05.190
  • THE THINGS YOU KNEW YOU WERE
  • 00:40:05.190 --> 00:40:06.260
  • SUPPOSED--
  • 00:40:06.260 --> 00:40:08.120
  • "EVEN THOUGH I DON'T WANT TO DO
  • 00:40:08.120 --> 00:40:09.050
  • THIS STUFF, I'M GONNA DO SOME
  • 00:40:09.050 --> 00:40:10.120
  • OF THESE THINGS 'CAUSE I KNOW
  • 00:40:10.120 --> 00:40:11.170
  • IT'S GONNA EVENTUALLY BRING
  • 00:40:11.170 --> 00:40:12.230
  • SOME HEALTH AND BRING SOME
  • 00:40:12.230 --> 00:40:13.120
  • LIFE."
  • 00:40:13.120 --> 00:40:15.080
  • WHAT WERE SOME OF THOSE THINGS,
  • 00:40:15.080 --> 00:40:16.040
  • BESIDES THE PILGRIMAGE YOU DID,
  • 00:40:16.040 --> 00:40:17.010
  • AND, HOW DID THAT START TO
  • 00:40:18.040 --> 00:40:21.040
  • MASSAGE SOME LIFE BACK INTO
  • 00:40:21.040 --> 00:40:22.220
  • YOU?
  • 00:40:22.220 --> 00:40:24.150
  • YOU'RE IN THE EMPTY NEST,
  • 00:40:24.150 --> 00:40:25.290
  • NOBODY'S THERE QUIET TIMES,
  • 00:40:25.290 --> 00:40:27.050
  • THE ICE CREAM'S IN
  • 00:40:27.050 --> 00:40:28.010
  • THE FREEZER...
  • 00:40:28.010 --> 00:40:30.000
  • I'M JUST AMAZED THAT YOU'RE
  • 00:40:33.280 --> 00:40:34.180
  • HERE, RIGHT NOW, WITH A BOOK
  • 00:40:34.180 --> 00:40:35.110
  • OUT OF YOUR PAIN.
  • 00:40:35.110 --> 00:40:36.180
  • TALK TO ME -- WHAT DID YOU DO
  • 00:40:36.180 --> 00:40:37.260
  • BESIDES THE PILGRIMAGE?
  • 00:40:37.260 --> 00:40:39.190
  • - LYSA: UH, WELL, I FILLED MY
  • 00:40:39.190 --> 00:40:40.130
  • HOME WITH PRAISE MUSIC.
  • 00:40:40.200 --> 00:40:43.200
  • THAT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT.
  • 00:40:43.200 --> 00:40:44.140
  • - CHAD: GOOD.
  • 00:40:44.140 --> 00:40:45.010
  • - LYSA: I HAD SOMEONE COME
  • 00:40:45.010 --> 00:40:45.250
  • OVER AND HELP ME FIGURE OUT THE
  • 00:40:45.250 --> 00:40:47.110
  • TECHNOLOGY SIDE OF PLAYING
  • 00:40:47.110 --> 00:40:49.130
  • MUSIC THESE DAYS.
  • 00:40:49.130 --> 00:40:50.140
  • IT IS RIDICULOUS.
  • 00:40:50.140 --> 00:40:51.280
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:40:51.280 --> 00:40:52.110
  • LIKE, WHEN I WAS GROWING UP, WE
  • 00:40:52.110 --> 00:40:53.070
  • PUT A CASSETTE TAPE IN, RIGHT?
  • 00:40:53.070 --> 00:40:54.220
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:40:54.220 --> 00:40:55.050
  • IT WAS NOT COMPLICATED.
  • 00:40:55.050 --> 00:40:56.130
  • - CHAD: RIGHT.
  • 00:40:56.130 --> 00:40:57.080
  • - LYSA: NOW, IT IS, LIKE, FROM
  • 00:40:57.080 --> 00:40:58.270
  • YOUR PHONE TO THE WIRELESS
  • 00:40:58.270 --> 00:41:00.130
  • SPEAKER, TO THE THIS, THE THAT.
  • 00:41:00.130 --> 00:41:02.000
  • - CHAD: YEAH.
  • 00:41:02.000 --> 00:41:02.140
  • - LYSA: YOU KNOW, IT WAS ALL
  • 00:41:02.140 --> 00:41:03.250
  • KIND OF COMPLICATED.
  • 00:41:03.250 --> 00:41:04.110
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:41:04.110 --> 00:41:05.100
  • BUT, UM, I HAD SOMEONE COME
  • 00:41:05.100 --> 00:41:06.120
  • OVER, AND, UM, I KNEW I HAD TO
  • 00:41:06.120 --> 00:41:08.040
  • FILL THE QUIETNESS WITH
  • 00:41:08.040 --> 00:41:08.260
  • SOMETHING.
  • 00:41:08.260 --> 00:41:10.050
  • - CHAD: RIGHT.
  • 00:41:10.050 --> 00:41:12.160
  • - LYSA: UM, 'CAUSE EVERY VOID
  • 00:41:12.160 --> 00:41:13.260
  • DEMANDS TO BE FILLED.
  • 00:41:13.260 --> 00:41:15.170
  • AND IT'S OUR CHOICE WHAT WE
  • 00:41:15.170 --> 00:41:16.140
  • FILL IT WITH.
  • 00:41:16.140 --> 00:41:17.150
  • - CHAD: MMH.
  • 00:41:17.150 --> 00:41:18.030
  • - LYSA: AND SO, I LISTENED TO
  • 00:41:18.030 --> 00:41:18.240
  • SO MANY SERMONS.
  • 00:41:18.240 --> 00:41:19.230
  • I MEAN, I EVEN HAD A TV
  • 00:41:19.230 --> 00:41:22.000
  • INSTALLED WHERE MY BATHTUB WAS.
  • 00:41:22.000 --> 00:41:24.130
  • AND SOMEONE SAID: "THAT'S
  • 00:41:24.130 --> 00:41:25.020
  • WEIRD.
  • 00:41:25.020 --> 00:41:25.220
  • YOU'RE, LIKE, WATCHING
  • 00:41:25.220 --> 00:41:26.090
  • PREACHERS AS YOU'RE IN THE
  • 00:41:26.090 --> 00:41:27.000
  • BATH."
  • 00:41:27.000 --> 00:41:27.270
  • I'M LIKE: "THEY CAN'T SEE ME!
  • 00:41:27.270 --> 00:41:29.060
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:41:29.060 --> 00:41:29.230
  • IT'S NOT A PROBLEM."
  • 00:41:29.230 --> 00:41:30.100
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:41:30.100 --> 00:41:31.160
  • I'M TELLING YOU -- I FILLED MY
  • 00:41:31.160 --> 00:41:32.140
  • SPACE UP WITH TRUTH.
  • 00:41:32.140 --> 00:41:35.040
  • - CHAD: WOW.
  • 00:41:35.040 --> 00:41:35.230
  • - LYSA: AND THEN, THERE WERE
  • 00:41:35.230 --> 00:41:36.280
  • DAYS THAT THE SPACE WAS FILLED
  • 00:41:36.280 --> 00:41:37.260
  • WITH TEARS.
  • 00:41:37.260 --> 00:41:38.120
  • - CHAD: SURE.
  • 00:41:38.120 --> 00:41:39.100
  • - LYSA: AND I DIDN'T-- I
  • 00:41:39.100 --> 00:41:40.000
  • DIDN'T WANNA GO TO CHURCH
  • 00:41:40.000 --> 00:41:41.020
  • SOMETIMES.
  • 00:41:41.020 --> 00:41:41.190
  • AND I DIDN'T WANT TO CALL A
  • 00:41:41.190 --> 00:41:42.280
  • FRIEND.
  • 00:41:42.280 --> 00:41:44.220
  • YOU KNOW, IT'S A MESSY PROCESS.
  • 00:41:44.220 --> 00:41:46.000
  • I MEAN, WE'RE HUMAN, YOU KNOW.
  • 00:41:46.000 --> 00:41:47.110
  • - CHAD: SURE.
  • 00:41:47.110 --> 00:41:48.010
  • - LYSA: BUT, ONE THING -- AS I
  • 00:41:48.010 --> 00:41:50.130
  • WAS READING THE BIBLE, I ASKED
  • 00:41:50.200 --> 00:41:53.200
  • THE LORD TO GIVE ME SOME
  • 00:41:53.200 --> 00:41:55.070
  • SPIRITUAL ORIENTATION WITH THE
  • 00:41:55.070 --> 00:41:56.220
  • BIBLE.
  • 00:41:56.220 --> 00:41:57.130
  • AND -- DO YOU KNOW? -- THE
  • 00:41:57.130 --> 00:41:59.030
  • FIRST TWO CHAPTERS OF THE BIBLE
  • 00:41:59.030 --> 00:42:00.250
  • DEAL WITH THE PERFECTION OF THE
  • 00:42:00.250 --> 00:42:03.040
  • WAY GOD DESIGNED THINGS TO BE.
  • 00:42:03.040 --> 00:42:05.270
  • IT-- PERFECTION -- WHEN HE
  • 00:42:09.030 --> 00:42:12.030
  • CREATED THIS WORLD, IN GENESIS
  • 00:42:12.030 --> 00:42:13.160
  • 1 AND 2, WE GET TO SEE THE
  • 00:42:13.160 --> 00:42:14.050
  • BEAUTY OF HOW IT WAS SUPPOSED
  • 00:42:14.050 --> 00:42:15.160
  • TO BE.
  • 00:42:15.160 --> 00:42:16.150
  • AND THEN, THE LAST TWO CHAPTERS
  • 00:42:16.150 --> 00:42:18.100
  • THE BIBLE, REVELATION 21 AND
  • 00:42:18.100 --> 00:42:19.260
  • 22, PERFECTION RETURNS.
  • 00:42:19.260 --> 00:42:22.000
  • - CHAD: WOW.
  • 00:42:22.000 --> 00:42:23.180
  • - LYSA: GARDEN OF EDEN
  • 00:42:23.180 --> 00:42:24.080
  • RETURNS.
  • 00:42:24.080 --> 00:42:24.270
  • THERE WILL BE NO MORE DEATH, NO
  • 00:42:24.270 --> 00:42:25.260
  • MORE CRYING, NO MORE TEARS.
  • 00:42:25.260 --> 00:42:26.200
  • RIGHT?
  • 00:42:26.200 --> 00:42:27.250
  • BUT ALL THOSE CHAPTERS, BETWEEN
  • 00:42:27.250 --> 00:42:29.150
  • THE FIRST TWO AND THE LAST TWO
  • 00:42:29.150 --> 00:42:32.020
  • -- THERE IS NO PERFECTION.
  • 00:42:32.020 --> 00:42:34.100
  • - CHAD: RIGHT.
  • 00:42:34.100 --> 00:42:35.070
  • - LYSA: AND I HAD TO MAKE
  • 00:42:35.070 --> 00:42:36.090
  • PEACE WITH THAT REALITY.
  • 00:42:36.090 --> 00:42:38.040
  • BECAUSE I THINK I EXPECTED A
  • 00:42:38.060 --> 00:42:41.060
  • PERFECTION ON THIS SIDE OF
  • 00:42:41.060 --> 00:42:42.150
  • ETERNITY THAT IS NOT POSSIBLE,
  • 00:42:42.150 --> 00:42:43.210
  • BESIDES MY RELATIONSHIP WITH
  • 00:42:43.210 --> 00:42:45.100
  • GOD.
  • 00:42:45.100 --> 00:42:45.270
  • - CHAD: WOW.
  • 00:42:45.270 --> 00:42:46.290
  • - LYSA: BUT YOU KNOW WHAT?
  • 00:42:46.290 --> 00:42:47.260
  • WALKIN' THROUGH THIS JOURNEY, I
  • 00:42:47.260 --> 00:42:49.070
  • AM SO THANKFUL THAT LESSER
  • 00:42:49.070 --> 00:42:50.110
  • LOVES CAN NEVER SATISFY ME.
  • 00:42:50.270 --> 00:42:53.270
  • - CHAD: WOW.
  • 00:42:53.270 --> 00:42:54.190
  • - LYSA: I'M SO THANKFUL THAT
  • 00:42:54.190 --> 00:42:55.290
  • LESSER LOVES WILL ALWAYS
  • 00:42:55.290 --> 00:42:57.050
  • DISAPPOINT US.
  • 00:42:57.050 --> 00:42:59.130
  • BECAUSE MY HEART NOW KNOWS
  • 00:42:59.130 --> 00:43:00.130
  • WHERE TO TURN TO TO GET THAT
  • 00:43:00.130 --> 00:43:02.160
  • DEEP SATISFACTION.
  • 00:43:02.160 --> 00:43:04.140
  • AND THE GIFT THAT THAT'S GIVEN
  • 00:43:04.140 --> 00:43:05.200
  • ME IS TREMENDOUS.
  • 00:43:05.200 --> 00:43:07.150
  • BECAUSE, I CAN NOW LOOK AT YOU
  • 00:43:07.210 --> 00:43:10.210
  • AS A HUMAN AND NOT EXPECT A
  • 00:43:10.210 --> 00:43:12.240
  • PERFECTION FROM YOU THAT WOULD
  • 00:43:12.240 --> 00:43:14.180
  • CRUSH US IN THE WEIGHT OF A
  • 00:43:14.180 --> 00:43:15.240
  • RELATIONSHIP.
  • 00:43:15.240 --> 00:43:17.150
  • I CAN LOOK AT MY HUSBAND, NOW,
  • 00:43:17.150 --> 00:43:18.290
  • AND I CANNOT EXPECT PERFECTION
  • 00:43:18.290 --> 00:43:21.070
  • FROM HIM.
  • 00:43:21.070 --> 00:43:22.230
  • NO HUSBAND WAS EVER SUPPOSED TO
  • 00:43:22.230 --> 00:43:24.140
  • BE OR CARRY THE WEIGHT OF
  • 00:43:24.140 --> 00:43:26.250
  • TRYING TO BE MY GOD.
  • 00:43:26.250 --> 00:43:28.010
  • - CHAD: RIGHT.
  • 00:43:28.010 --> 00:43:28.180
  • - LYSA: RIGHT?
  • 00:43:28.180 --> 00:43:29.170
  • ONLY GOD IS SUPPOSED TO DO
  • 00:43:29.170 --> 00:43:30.060
  • THAT.
  • 00:43:30.060 --> 00:43:30.220
  • AND SO, YOU KNOW, I LEARNED A
  • 00:43:30.220 --> 00:43:33.020
  • LOT.
  • 00:43:33.020 --> 00:43:34.080
  • I FILLED THAT VOID WITH AN
  • 00:43:34.080 --> 00:43:36.160
  • ATMOSPHERE OF LEARNING.
  • 00:43:36.260 --> 00:43:39.260
  • - CHAD: WOW.
  • 00:43:39.260 --> 00:43:41.030
  • - LYSA: AND I NEEDED TO LEARN
  • 00:43:41.030 --> 00:43:42.020
  • SOME THINGS.
  • 00:43:42.020 --> 00:43:43.080
  • - CHAD: ABSOLUTELY.
  • 00:43:43.080 --> 00:43:44.050
  • WELL, I THINK, YOU KNOW...THE
  • 00:43:44.050 --> 00:43:45.260
  • VOID -- MOST OF US FALL INTO
  • 00:43:47.120 --> 00:43:50.120
  • THE TEMPTATION OF FILLING IT
  • 00:43:50.120 --> 00:43:51.220
  • WITH THINGS THAT ARE IMMEDIATE,
  • 00:43:51.220 --> 00:43:53.000
  • SUBSTANCE, RELATIONSHIP.
  • 00:43:53.000 --> 00:43:54.210
  • AND, IF YOU CAN -- AND IT'S A
  • 00:43:56.080 --> 00:43:59.080
  • BIG "IF" -- IF YOU CAN BRING
  • 00:43:59.080 --> 00:44:01.110
  • YOURSELF TO FILLING IT WITH
  • 00:44:01.110 --> 00:44:02.210
  • HEALTHY THINGS--
  • 00:44:02.210 --> 00:44:03.270
  • YOU KNOW, AS YOU WERE TALKING,
  • 00:44:03.270 --> 00:44:04.260
  • I WAS THINKING OF THAT
  • 00:44:04.260 --> 00:44:05.140
  • SCRIPTURE.
  • 00:44:05.140 --> 00:44:05.270
  • "FAITH COMES FROM HEARING.
  • 00:44:05.270 --> 00:44:07.060
  • AND HEARING FROM THE WORD OF
  • 00:44:07.060 --> 00:44:08.200
  • GOD."
  • 00:44:08.200 --> 00:44:09.100
  • WHETHER IT'S A BATHTUB OR IN
  • 00:44:09.100 --> 00:44:10.230
  • THE LIVING ROOM, WHEN YOU
  • 00:44:10.230 --> 00:44:11.260
  • FIGURE OUT THE SPEAKER, OR IN
  • 00:44:11.260 --> 00:44:12.170
  • I KNOW, FOR ME, WHEN I FACE THE
  • 00:44:14.130 --> 00:44:16.010
  • HARDEST TIMES IN MY LIFE, I
  • 00:44:16.010 --> 00:44:17.200
  • FELT THE MOST TEMPTED--
  • 00:44:17.200 --> 00:44:20.040
  • - LYSA: YUP.
  • 00:44:20.040 --> 00:44:21.060
  • - CHAD: --TO FILL IT WITH THE
  • 00:44:21.060 --> 00:44:23.020
  • WRONG THINGS.
  • 00:44:23.020 --> 00:44:23.160
  • DID YOU SENSE SOME OF THAT
  • 00:44:23.160 --> 00:44:24.050
  • PULLING?
  • 00:44:24.050 --> 00:44:25.190
  • WE DON'T LIKE TO FEEL PAIN.
  • 00:44:27.140 --> 00:44:29.080
  • - CHAD: RIGHT.
  • 00:44:29.080 --> 00:44:31.150
  • - LYSA: WE ARE CONDITIONED TO
  • 00:44:31.150 --> 00:44:32.060
  • NUMB THE PAIN.
  • 00:44:32.060 --> 00:44:32.190
  • - CHAD: THAT'S IT.
  • 00:44:32.190 --> 00:44:33.050
  • - LYSA: LIKE, WE HAVE A
  • 00:44:33.050 --> 00:44:33.230
  • HEADACHE, WE TAKE ADVIL, RIGHT?
  • 00:44:33.230 --> 00:44:34.150
  • I MEAN, IF WE'RE HURTING, WE GO
  • 00:44:34.150 --> 00:44:35.190
  • TO THE DOCTOR AND SAY, "TAKE
  • 00:44:35.190 --> 00:44:36.290
  • AWAY THE PAIN."
  • 00:44:36.290 --> 00:44:37.230
  • RIGHT?
  • 00:44:37.230 --> 00:44:39.020
  • IF, UM, EMOTIONALLY WE'RE
  • 00:44:39.020 --> 00:44:41.190
  • HURTING, YOU KNOW, WE WANT A
  • 00:44:41.190 --> 00:44:42.260
  • QUICK FIX FOR THAT.
  • 00:44:42.260 --> 00:44:44.090
  • [SNAPS FINGERS]
  • 00:44:44.090 --> 00:44:45.030
  • - CHAD: YEAH.
  • 00:44:45.030 --> 00:44:45.200
  • - LYSA: SO, FOR ME, THERE WERE
  • 00:44:45.200 --> 00:44:47.130
  • LOTS OF OPPORTUNITIES FOR ME TO
  • 00:44:47.210 --> 00:44:50.210
  • NUMB THE PAIN, FOR SURE.
  • 00:44:50.210 --> 00:44:52.100
  • BUT I ALSO KNEW THAT TO STAY IN
  • 00:44:52.100 --> 00:44:55.070
  • A PLACE OF JUST NUMBING THE
  • 00:44:55.070 --> 00:44:57.150
  • PAIN, I WOULD NEVER DEAL WITH
  • 00:44:57.150 --> 00:44:58.280
  • THE PAIN.
  • 00:44:59.080 --> 00:45:02.100
  • - CHAD: SURE.
  • 00:45:02.100 --> 00:45:03.010
  • - LYSA: AND IF I NEVER DEALT
  • 00:45:03.010 --> 00:45:04.130
  • WITH THE PAIN, THEN I COULD
  • 00:45:04.130 --> 00:45:05.030
  • NEVER HEAL FROM THE PAIN.
  • 00:45:05.030 --> 00:45:06.010
  • THE ONLY WAY TO GET TO HEALING
  • 00:45:06.010 --> 00:45:07.140
  • IS GET TO THE DEALING, RIGHT?
  • 00:45:07.140 --> 00:45:09.180
  • - CHAD: OOH...
  • 00:45:09.180 --> 00:45:10.110
  • - LYSA: SO, YOU GOTTA DEAL
  • 00:45:10.110 --> 00:45:11.110
  • WITH IT.
  • 00:45:11.110 --> 00:45:12.180
  • - CHAD: SAY IT AGAIN FOR THE
  • 00:45:12.180 --> 00:45:13.090
  • PEOPLE IN THE BACK.
  • 00:45:13.090 --> 00:45:13.250
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:45:13.250 --> 00:45:14.060
  • HOLD ON.
  • 00:45:14.060 --> 00:45:14.160
  • YOU CAN'T JUST DROP--
  • 00:45:14.160 --> 00:45:15.200
  • SHE DROPS THESE BARS LIKE IT'S
  • 00:45:15.200 --> 00:45:16.240
  • NOTHING.
  • 00:45:16.240 --> 00:45:17.280
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:45:17.280 --> 00:45:18.280
  • AND JUST-- AND I WANNA TAKE MY
  • 00:45:18.280 --> 00:45:19.190
  • PHONE AND WRITE IT DOWN, BUT I
  • 00:45:19.190 --> 00:45:20.100
  • DON'T-- THEY WON'T LET ME HAVE
  • 00:45:20.100 --> 00:45:21.070
  • MY PHONE UP HERE.
  • 00:45:21.070 --> 00:45:22.010
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:45:22.010 --> 00:45:22.130
  • SAY IT AGAIN--
  • 00:45:22.130 --> 00:45:23.170
  • MY GOD!
  • 00:45:23.170 --> 00:45:24.040
  • SAY THAT ONE MORE TIME.
  • 00:45:24.040 --> 00:45:24.220
  • - LYSA: WELL, THE ONLY WAY TO
  • 00:45:24.220 --> 00:45:25.180
  • GET TO THE HEALING IS TO GET TO
  • 00:45:25.180 --> 00:45:26.100
  • THE DEALING.
  • 00:45:26.100 --> 00:45:29.030
  • - CHAD: OOHF!
  • 00:45:29.030 --> 00:45:29.200
  • - LYSA: LIKE, YOU GOTTA DEAL
  • 00:45:29.200 --> 00:45:30.110
  • WITH THE PAIN IF YOU'RE EVER
  • 00:45:30.110 --> 00:45:31.020
  • GONNA HEAL THE PAIN.
  • 00:45:31.020 --> 00:45:31.190
  • AND DEALING WITH IT IS NO FUN,
  • 00:45:31.190 --> 00:45:32.250
  • TRUST ME.
  • 00:45:32.250 --> 00:45:34.180
  • - CHAD: NO.
  • 00:45:34.180 --> 00:45:35.010
  • - LYSA: AND NUMBING IT SEEMS
  • 00:45:35.010 --> 00:45:36.030
  • LIKE THE BETTER CHOICE AT THE
  • 00:45:36.030 --> 00:45:37.210
  • TIME.
  • 00:45:37.210 --> 00:45:38.070
  • - CHAD: RIGHT.
  • 00:45:38.070 --> 00:45:39.030
  • - LYSA: AND THERE'S NO
  • 00:45:39.030 --> 00:45:40.200
  • SHORTAGE OF THINGS TO NUMB OUR
  • 00:45:40.200 --> 00:45:42.150
  • PAIN WITH, RIGHT?
  • 00:45:42.150 --> 00:45:43.120
  • THERE-- YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A
  • 00:45:43.120 --> 00:45:45.040
  • MILLION DISTRACTIONS THAT ARE
  • 00:45:45.040 --> 00:45:46.260
  • EAGER TO HELP US.
  • 00:45:46.260 --> 00:45:47.150
  • BUT THOSE DISTRACTIONS WILL
  • 00:45:47.150 --> 00:45:49.170
  • NEVER HELP US IN THE LONG TERM.
  • 00:45:49.170 --> 00:45:51.130
  • - CHAD: THAT'S SO TRUE.
  • 00:45:51.130 --> 00:45:52.030
  • - LYSA: THEY ONLY GIVE US SOME
  • 00:45:52.030 --> 00:45:53.160
  • RELIEF IN THE SHORT TERM.
  • 00:45:53.160 --> 00:45:54.110
  • - CHAD: SO TRUE.
  • 00:45:54.110 --> 00:45:55.010
  • YOU ARE SO INSIGHTFUL.
  • 00:45:55.010 --> 00:45:55.280
  • I LOVE TALKIN' TO YOU.
  • 00:45:55.280 --> 00:45:57.120
  • I WANNA GO QUICKLY TO A VIDEO.
  • 00:45:57.120 --> 00:45:58.230
  • THIS IS THE REJECTION
  • 00:45:58.230 --> 00:46:01.100
  • "UNINVITED" STUDY.
  • 00:46:01.100 --> 00:46:02.040
  • CHECK OUT THIS VIDEO AND THEN
  • 00:46:02.040 --> 00:46:03.140
  • WE'LL BE BACK WITH MORE LYSA
  • 00:46:03.140 --> 00:46:05.220
  • TERKEURST.
  • 00:46:05.220 --> 00:46:06.080
  • - LYSA: OF ALL THE STUDIES
  • 00:46:06.080 --> 00:46:07.200
  • I'VE DONE, THIS ONE HAS
  • 00:46:07.200 --> 00:46:09.010
  • PROFOUNDLY SHIFTED SOMETHING
  • 00:46:09.010 --> 00:46:10.260
  • DEEP INSIDE OF ME.
  • 00:46:10.260 --> 00:46:13.000
  • YOU SEE, THE TOPIC WE'RE
  • 00:46:13.000 --> 00:46:14.260
  • TACKLING IN "UNINVITED" IS
  • 00:46:14.260 --> 00:46:15.150
  • REJECTION.
  • 00:46:15.150 --> 00:46:17.140
  • I WANTED TO KNOW -- I NEEDED TO
  • 00:46:17.140 --> 00:46:19.040
  • KNOW -- CAN THE BIBLE HELP ME
  • 00:46:19.040 --> 00:46:21.010
  • PROCESS THE DEVASTATING
  • 00:46:21.140 --> 00:46:24.140
  • FEELINGS OF BEING...LEFT OUT,
  • 00:46:24.140 --> 00:46:25.170
  • LONELY, LESS THAN -- ALL THOSE
  • 00:46:27.040 --> 00:46:30.040
  • FEELINGS OF REJECTION?
  • 00:46:30.040 --> 00:46:31.160
  • YOU KNOW, REJECTION IS SUCH A
  • 00:46:31.160 --> 00:46:33.280
  • TOUGH EMOTION TO DEAL WITH.
  • 00:46:33.280 --> 00:46:34.200
  • BECAUSE IT NEVER COMES AS AN
  • 00:46:34.200 --> 00:46:35.110
  • ISOLATED FEELING.
  • 00:46:35.110 --> 00:46:36.240
  • TODAY'S REJECTIONS, BIG OR
  • 00:46:36.240 --> 00:46:38.030
  • SMALL -- THEY-- THEY'RE LIKE
  • 00:46:38.030 --> 00:46:40.130
  • STEALTH BOMBS THAT ZING
  • 00:46:40.130 --> 00:46:42.100
  • STRAIGHT TO MY CORE, LOCATING
  • 00:46:42.100 --> 00:46:44.120
  • HURTS FROM MY PAST AND MAKING
  • 00:46:44.120 --> 00:46:45.190
  • THEM EXTREMELY PRESENT ALL OVER
  • 00:46:46.160 --> 00:46:49.160
  • AGAIN.
  • 00:46:49.160 --> 00:46:50.120
  • THEY SEND MESSAGES THAT
  • 00:46:50.120 --> 00:46:51.210
  • SCRAMBLE UP MY CAREFULLY
  • 00:46:51.210 --> 00:46:52.160
  • ESTABLISHED FORMULAS FOR
  • 00:46:52.160 --> 00:46:54.010
  • KEEPING LIFE STABLE.
  • 00:46:54.010 --> 00:46:54.230
  • THE VOICES OF DOUBT AND
  • 00:46:54.230 --> 00:46:55.240
  • INSECURITY -- THEY WHISPER TO
  • 00:46:55.240 --> 00:46:57.150
  • ME AND SAY, "SEE, I'VE BEEN
  • 00:46:57.150 --> 00:47:00.080
  • TELLING YOU FOR YEARS WHAT AN
  • 00:47:00.080 --> 00:47:01.240
  • UTTER DISAPPOINTMENT YOU ARE."
  • 00:47:01.240 --> 00:47:03.250
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:47:06.040 --> 00:47:09.040
  • WE'RE TALKING ABOUT "IT'S NOT
  • 00:47:13.080 --> 00:47:14.160
  • SUPPOSED TO BE THIS WAY."
  • 00:47:14.160 --> 00:47:16.030
  • IT'S A BOOK.
  • 00:47:16.030 --> 00:47:18.160
  • YOU HAVE TO PICK THIS BOOK UP.
  • 00:47:18.160 --> 00:47:19.070
  • LYSA TERKEURST IS JOINING ME,
  • 00:47:19.070 --> 00:47:20.080
  • TODAY.
  • 00:47:20.080 --> 00:47:22.000
  • AGAIN, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR
  • 00:47:22.000 --> 00:47:23.250
  • COMING.
  • 00:47:23.250 --> 00:47:24.080
  • I WANT TO-- COUPLE THINGS I
  • 00:47:24.080 --> 00:47:25.260
  • WANNA TALK ABOUT.
  • 00:47:25.260 --> 00:47:27.070
  • WE'RE GETTING TO THE END, WHICH
  • 00:47:27.070 --> 00:47:28.250
  • I WISH WE COULD DO THIS FOR
  • 00:47:28.250 --> 00:47:29.150
  • ANOTHER, TO BE HONEST.
  • 00:47:29.150 --> 00:47:30.110
  • UM...TALK TO ME ABOUT, UH,
  • 00:47:30.110 --> 00:47:31.170
  • BREAST CANCER.
  • 00:47:36.040 --> 00:47:39.040
  • TALK TO ME ABOUT, YOU KNOW--
  • 00:47:39.040 --> 00:47:39.240
  • MAYBE SOME PEOPLE ARE WATCHING,
  • 00:47:39.240 --> 00:47:40.160
  • GOING, "OKAY, MAYBE THOSE TWO--
  • 00:47:40.160 --> 00:47:41.080
  • YOU KNOW, SHE SORTED THAT."
  • 00:47:41.080 --> 00:47:41.290
  • BUT IT JUST...KIND OF KEPT
  • 00:47:41.290 --> 00:47:44.200
  • GOING FOR A WHILE.
  • 00:47:44.200 --> 00:47:47.050
  • - LYSA: YEAH.
  • 00:47:47.050 --> 00:47:47.200
  • - CHAD: TALK TO ME ABOUT THAT.
  • 00:47:47.200 --> 00:47:48.120
  • - LYSA: SO, IN JUNE OF 2017,
  • 00:47:48.270 --> 00:47:51.270
  • UM, I THOUGHT ART AND I WERE
  • 00:47:51.270 --> 00:47:54.050
  • ABOUT TO RECONCILE AND THAT
  • 00:47:54.050 --> 00:47:55.230
  • THINGS WERE REALLY TURNING
  • 00:47:55.230 --> 00:47:57.230
  • AROUND.
  • 00:47:57.230 --> 00:47:58.160
  • AND THEN, THE BOTTOM FELL OUT
  • 00:47:58.160 --> 00:48:00.150
  • OF OUR WORLD AGAIN.
  • 00:48:00.150 --> 00:48:02.150
  • UM...AND SOME THINGS CYCLED
  • 00:48:02.150 --> 00:48:04.270
  • I REMEMBER I WROTE A BLOG,
  • 00:48:08.050 --> 00:48:09.040
  • FINALLY TELLING THE WORLD WHAT
  • 00:48:09.040 --> 00:48:10.080
  • WE WERE WALKING THROUGH.
  • 00:48:10.080 --> 00:48:11.290
  • BECAUSE, AT THAT POINT, IT WAS
  • 00:48:11.290 --> 00:48:13.270
  • EITHER GONNA BE SHARED WITH THE
  • 00:48:13.270 --> 00:48:14.200
  • RUMOR MILL, OR I WAS GONNA GET
  • 00:48:14.200 --> 00:48:16.160
  • IN FRONT OF IT AND SHARE IT
  • 00:48:16.160 --> 00:48:17.060
  • WITH TRUTH.
  • 00:48:17.060 --> 00:48:19.200
  • - CHAD: RIGHT.
  • 00:48:19.200 --> 00:48:20.070
  • - LYSA: AND SO, I WAS
  • 00:48:20.070 --> 00:48:21.190
  • DEVASTATED TO WRITE THAT I HAD
  • 00:48:21.190 --> 00:48:23.050
  • SAID TO MY HUSBAND, "I CAN LOVE
  • 00:48:23.050 --> 00:48:25.050
  • YOU, AND I CAN FORGIVE YOU, BUT
  • 00:48:25.050 --> 00:48:26.200
  • I WILL NOT SHARE YOU."
  • 00:48:26.200 --> 00:48:28.030
  • - CHAD: MMH.
  • 00:48:28.030 --> 00:48:30.010
  • - LYSA: AND, UM...SO, THAT WAS
  • 00:48:30.010 --> 00:48:30.230
  • IN JUNE.
  • 00:48:30.230 --> 00:48:32.010
  • AND, AT THAT POINT, I DECIDED
  • 00:48:32.010 --> 00:48:34.020
  • TO TAKE A SABBATICAL.
  • 00:48:34.020 --> 00:48:35.010
  • SO, I SPENT A GOOD LONG SEASON
  • 00:48:37.000 --> 00:48:40.000
  • OF QUIET, AND, UM--- AND TRYING
  • 00:48:40.000 --> 00:48:42.280
  • TO GET MY BEARINGS, ONCE AGAIN,
  • 00:48:42.280 --> 00:48:44.020
  • FROM JUST MY WORLD BEING TURNED
  • 00:48:44.020 --> 00:48:46.220
  • UPSIDE DOWN AGAIN.
  • 00:48:46.220 --> 00:48:47.210
  • - CHAD: SURE.
  • 00:48:47.210 --> 00:48:49.070
  • - LYSA: AND SO, I MADE A BUNCH
  • 00:48:49.070 --> 00:48:50.150
  • OF APPOINTMENTS, UM, BECAUSE I
  • 00:48:50.150 --> 00:48:52.050
  • DON'T SIT STILL REALLY WELL.
  • 00:48:52.050 --> 00:48:53.170
  • - LYSA: AND SO, I JUST WANTED
  • 00:48:55.000 --> 00:48:56.120
  • TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THE
  • 00:48:56.120 --> 00:48:57.000
  • APPOINTMENTS YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO
  • 00:48:57.000 --> 00:48:58.080
  • DO THAT I NEVER HAVE TIME TO DO
  • 00:48:58.080 --> 00:48:59.130
  • WHEN I'M IN BUSY MINISTRY LIFE
  • 00:48:59.130 --> 00:49:00.290
  • AND EVERYTHING.
  • 00:49:00.290 --> 00:49:02.080
  • SO, ONE OF THOSE WAS TO GO GET
  • 00:49:02.080 --> 00:49:03.150
  • A MAMMOGRAM.
  • 00:49:03.150 --> 00:49:05.060
  • AND IT WASN'T TIME FOR ME TO
  • 00:49:05.060 --> 00:49:06.080
  • GET A MAMMOGRAM, BUT--
  • 00:49:06.080 --> 00:49:06.270
  • AND I'D HAD SO MANY CLEAR TESTS
  • 00:49:06.270 --> 00:49:08.270
  • THAT I DIDN'T REALLY FEEL LIKE
  • 00:49:08.270 --> 00:49:10.180
  • BUT I THOUGHT: IT'S ON THE
  • 00:49:12.210 --> 00:49:13.100
  • LIST.
  • 00:49:13.100 --> 00:49:13.190
  • I SHOULD JUST CHECK IT OFF AND
  • 00:49:13.190 --> 00:49:14.230
  • THAT WAY I WON'T HAVE TO GO
  • 00:49:14.230 --> 00:49:15.130
  • NEXT YEAR.
  • 00:49:15.130 --> 00:49:17.050
  • - CHAD: RIGHT.
  • 00:49:17.050 --> 00:49:17.270
  • - LYSA: AND, UM, LITTLE DID I
  • 00:49:17.270 --> 00:49:18.180
  • KNOW THAT I WOULD GET A CALL
  • 00:49:18.180 --> 00:49:19.280
  • BACK, AND, UM-- FOR ANOTHER
  • 00:49:19.280 --> 00:49:22.020
  • APPOINTMENT.
  • 00:49:22.020 --> 00:49:23.070
  • AND THEN, I WOULD GET ANOTHER
  • 00:49:23.070 --> 00:49:24.120
  • CALL BACK.
  • 00:49:24.120 --> 00:49:24.290
  • AND THEN, THEY, UM, REQUESTED A
  • 00:49:24.290 --> 00:49:27.060
  • BIOPSY.
  • 00:49:27.060 --> 00:49:28.050
  • AND THEN, THERE WAS A DAY THAT
  • 00:49:28.050 --> 00:49:30.260
  • I SAT IN A VERY PINK OFFICE, IN
  • 00:49:32.100 --> 00:49:35.100
  • A PINK CHAIR, AND WATCHED THE
  • 00:49:35.100 --> 00:49:37.000
  • DOCTORS ATTACH THE WORD
  • 00:49:37.000 --> 00:49:39.210
  • "CANCER" TO MY LIFE AND I WAS
  • 00:49:39.210 --> 00:49:40.290
  • DIAGNOSED WITH BREAST CANCER.
  • 00:49:40.290 --> 00:49:42.190
  • AND, UM...IN KIND OF A CRAZY
  • 00:49:45.180 --> 00:49:48.180
  • WAY, UM, ART WAS DETERMINED HE
  • 00:49:49.190 --> 00:49:52.190
  • WAS GONNA WALK THROUGH THIS
  • 00:49:52.190 --> 00:49:53.160
  • WITH ME.
  • 00:49:53.160 --> 00:49:55.270
  • AND, UM, SO HE WAS SITTING
  • 00:49:55.270 --> 00:49:57.220
  • RIGHT THERE.
  • 00:49:57.220 --> 00:49:58.170
  • AND I REMEMBER I PULLED UP A
  • 00:49:58.170 --> 00:50:00.060
  • CHAIR THAT WAS EMPTY.
  • 00:50:00.060 --> 00:50:02.100
  • SO, IT WAS ART, MYSELF, AND THE
  • 00:50:02.100 --> 00:50:03.230
  • DOCTOR.
  • 00:50:03.230 --> 00:50:05.090
  • AND I PULLED UP ONE MORE CHAIR.
  • 00:50:05.090 --> 00:50:07.030
  • (EMOTIONAL VOICE) UM...BECAUSE
  • 00:50:07.030 --> 00:50:08.090
  • I THOUGHT: I'M NOT DOING THIS
  • 00:50:08.090 --> 00:50:09.000
  • WITHOUT YOU, JESUS.
  • 00:50:09.000 --> 00:50:09.230
  • - CHAD: MMH.
  • 00:50:09.270 --> 00:50:12.270
  • - LYSA: AND...AND SO, I JUST
  • 00:50:12.270 --> 00:50:13.190
  • HAD TO SEE THAT HE WAS THERE,
  • 00:50:13.190 --> 00:50:14.120
  • TOO.
  • 00:50:14.120 --> 00:50:14.240
  • - CHAD: WOW.
  • 00:50:14.240 --> 00:50:15.070
  • - LYSA: AND, THEN WE GOT IN
  • 00:50:15.070 --> 00:50:17.050
  • THE CAR AND I THOUGHT: WHAT DO
  • 00:50:17.050 --> 00:50:18.050
  • YOU...AFTER YOU GET THE NEWS
  • 00:50:18.050 --> 00:50:19.090
  • THAT YOU HAVE BREAST CANCER?
  • 00:50:19.090 --> 00:50:20.070
  • LIKE, HOW DO YOU--
  • 00:50:20.070 --> 00:50:21.030
  • - CHAD: JEEZ.
  • 00:50:21.030 --> 00:50:23.070
  • - LYSA: HOW DO YOU DO THIS?
  • 00:50:23.070 --> 00:50:23.270
  • AND I REMEMBER TELLING THE
  • 00:50:23.270 --> 00:50:24.160
  • LORD: "LIKE, THIS IS TOO MUCH.
  • 00:50:24.160 --> 00:50:25.070
  • THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE PRAYING
  • 00:50:25.070 --> 00:50:28.050
  • FOR ME AND THEY'RE GONNA BE
  • 00:50:28.050 --> 00:50:30.030
  • REALLY MAD THAT THIS IS PART OF
  • 00:50:30.030 --> 00:50:31.080
  • THE STORY, NOW, TOO.
  • 00:50:31.080 --> 00:50:32.170
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:50:32.170 --> 00:50:34.060
  • LIKE, I'M GONNA GO HOME AND
  • 00:50:34.060 --> 00:50:35.000
  • WRITE IN MY BOOK ABOUT ME AND
  • 00:50:35.000 --> 00:50:36.170
  • NOW HAVIN' BREAST CANCER, YOU
  • 00:50:36.170 --> 00:50:37.260
  • KNOW?"
  • 00:50:37.260 --> 00:50:38.120
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:50:38.120 --> 00:50:39.120
  • - CHAD: "AND, GOD, THEY'RE
  • 00:50:39.120 --> 00:50:40.020
  • GONNA BE MAD AT YOU!"
  • 00:50:40.020 --> 00:50:40.190
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:50:40.190 --> 00:50:41.020
  • - LYSA: "THEY'RE GONNA BE SO
  • 00:50:41.020 --> 00:50:41.230
  • MAD AT YOU!"
  • 00:50:41.230 --> 00:50:42.050
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:50:42.050 --> 00:50:42.170
  • UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I
  • 00:50:42.170 --> 00:50:43.150
  • MEAN, IT'S--
  • 00:50:43.150 --> 00:50:45.070
  • - CHAD: WOW.
  • 00:50:45.070 --> 00:50:46.070
  • - LYSA: GOD DIDN'T DO THIS TO
  • 00:50:46.070 --> 00:50:47.060
  • ME.
  • 00:50:47.060 --> 00:50:47.210
  • HE DIDN'T.
  • 00:50:47.210 --> 00:50:48.100
  • THIS ISN'T THE WAY THAT HE
  • 00:50:48.100 --> 00:50:50.130
  • DESIGNED THE WORLD TO BE.
  • 00:50:50.130 --> 00:50:51.160
  • - CHAD: WOW.
  • 00:50:51.160 --> 00:50:52.000
  • - LYSA: PEOPLE ARE NOT
  • 00:50:52.000 --> 00:50:53.110
  • SUPPOSED TO GET CANCER OR THEIR
  • 00:50:53.110 --> 00:50:55.060
  • HUSBAND HAVE AN AFFAIR.
  • 00:50:56.000 --> 00:50:59.000
  • I MEAN, THIS ISN'T WHAT HE
  • 00:50:59.000 --> 00:50:59.230
  • DESIGNED THIS WORLD TO BE.
  • 00:50:59.230 --> 00:51:01.250
  • SIN DID THAT TO THIS WORLD.
  • 00:51:01.250 --> 00:51:02.220
  • SIN BROKE GOD'S ORIGINAL
  • 00:51:02.220 --> 00:51:04.010
  • DESIGN.
  • 00:51:04.010 --> 00:51:05.230
  • AND SO, IN BETWEEN THE FIRST
  • 00:51:05.230 --> 00:51:07.090
  • TWO CHAPTERS OF GENESIS
  • 00:51:07.090 --> 00:51:08.100
  • AND THE LAST TWO CHAPTERS
  • 00:51:08.100 --> 00:51:09.170
  • OF REVELATION, THAT'S GOD'S
  • 00:51:09.170 --> 00:51:11.170
  • LOVE LETTER TO US TO SAY,
  • 00:51:11.170 --> 00:51:13.120
  • "I UNDERSTAND."
  • 00:51:13.120 --> 00:51:16.100
  • GOD SEES YOU, MY FRIEND.
  • 00:51:16.100 --> 00:51:16.280
  • HE SEES YOU.
  • 00:51:16.280 --> 00:51:18.290
  • HE KNOWS EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE
  • 00:51:18.290 --> 00:51:20.200
  • FACING.
  • 00:51:20.200 --> 00:51:21.140
  • - CHAD: THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:51:21.140 --> 00:51:22.110
  • - LYSA: HE KNOWS THE DEPTH OF
  • 00:51:22.110 --> 00:51:23.230
  • HURT AND PAIN THAT YOU'RE
  • 00:51:23.230 --> 00:51:25.120
  • WALKING THROUGH.
  • 00:51:25.120 --> 00:51:26.000
  • AS A MATTER OF FACT, SOME OF MY
  • 00:51:26.000 --> 00:51:27.090
  • FAVORITE VERSES ARE IN MARK 14.
  • 00:51:27.090 --> 00:51:28.240
  • THERE ARE NO WORDS OF JESUS I
  • 00:51:28.240 --> 00:51:31.150
  • RELATE TO MORE THAN WHEN HE'S
  • 00:51:31.150 --> 00:51:33.030
  • IN THE GARDEN OF GETHSEMANE AND
  • 00:51:33.030 --> 00:51:34.160
  • HE CRIES OUT TO HIS FATHER,
  • 00:51:34.160 --> 00:51:36.100
  • "MY SOUL IS OVERWHELMED WITH
  • 00:51:36.110 --> 00:51:39.110
  • SORROW TO THE POINT OF
  • 00:51:39.110 --> 00:51:40.080
  • DEATH....
  • 00:51:40.080 --> 00:51:42.220
  • GOD, EVERYTHING IS POSSIBLE
  • 00:51:42.220 --> 00:51:43.120
  • FOR YOU.
  • 00:51:43.120 --> 00:51:43.280
  • TAKE THIS FROM ME."
  • 00:51:43.280 --> 00:51:45.080
  • THAT'S WHAT JESUS SAYS TO HIS
  • 00:51:45.080 --> 00:51:47.070
  • FATHER.
  • 00:51:49.150 --> 00:51:52.150
  • AND SO, HE KNOWS...HE KNOWS
  • 00:51:52.150 --> 00:51:53.050
  • WHAT IT FEELS LIKE TO BE
  • 00:51:53.050 --> 00:51:53.230
  • WALKING THROUGH SOMETHING
  • 00:51:53.230 --> 00:51:54.120
  • THAT...THAT YOU FEEL LIKE:
  • 00:51:54.120 --> 00:51:55.010
  • THIS IS GONNA KILL ME.
  • 00:51:55.010 --> 00:51:56.000
  • "GOD CHANGE THE PLAN.
  • 00:51:56.000 --> 00:51:56.270
  • I DON'T WANT THIS TO BE MY
  • 00:51:56.270 --> 00:51:57.160
  • STORY."
  • 00:51:57.160 --> 00:51:57.280
  • MAYBE YOU'RE THERE, RIGHT NOW,
  • 00:51:57.280 --> 00:51:59.170
  • MY FRIEND.
  • 00:51:59.170 --> 00:52:00.050
  • I UNDERSTAND.
  • 00:52:00.050 --> 00:52:01.160
  • BUT, EVEN MORE IMPORTANTLY,
  • 00:52:01.160 --> 00:52:02.230
  • JESUS UNDERSTANDS.
  • 00:52:02.230 --> 00:52:04.020
  • AND THEN, JESUS TURNS IT
  • 00:52:04.020 --> 00:52:05.230
  • AROUND BY UTTERING THESE NINE
  • 00:52:05.230 --> 00:52:07.050
  • EARTH-SHAKING, HELL-SHATTERING,
  • 00:52:07.050 --> 00:52:09.260
  • DEMON-QUAKING WORDS OF TRUST IN
  • 00:52:09.260 --> 00:52:11.240
  • GOD.
  • 00:52:11.240 --> 00:52:14.040
  • AND HE SAYS: "YET NOT WHAT I
  • 00:52:14.040 --> 00:52:16.230
  • WILL, BUT WHAT YOU WILL."
  • 00:52:20.170 --> 00:52:23.170
  • AND THAT'S THE PLACE I
  • 00:52:23.170 --> 00:52:24.090
  • HAD TO GET TO...IN THIS WHOLE
  • 00:52:24.090 --> 00:52:25.000
  • JOURNEY.
  • 00:52:25.000 --> 00:52:25.100
  • I HAD TO SAY: "GOD, I GUESS IF
  • 00:52:25.100 --> 00:52:26.010
  • I KNEW WHAT YOU KNOW, MAYBE I
  • 00:52:26.050 --> 00:52:29.050
  • COULD BE BRAVE ENOUGH TO CHOOSE
  • 00:52:29.050 --> 00:52:32.010
  • WHAT YOU'VE CHOSEN."
  • 00:52:32.010 --> 00:52:34.100
  • - CHAD: WOW.
  • 00:52:34.100 --> 00:52:34.280
  • - LYSA: "BUT SINCE I DON'T
  • 00:52:34.280 --> 00:52:36.140
  • KNOW WHAT YOU KNOW..."
  • 00:52:36.140 --> 00:52:37.040
  • - CHAD: MMH.
  • 00:52:37.040 --> 00:52:38.070
  • - LYSA: "...I BETTER STAY REAL
  • 00:52:38.070 --> 00:52:39.040
  • CLOSE TO YOU..."
  • 00:52:39.040 --> 00:52:40.030
  • - CHAD: YES.
  • 00:52:40.030 --> 00:52:40.190
  • - LYSA: "...SO THAT YOU CAN
  • 00:52:40.190 --> 00:52:41.180
  • REVEAL GOOD TO ME THAT YOU'VE
  • 00:52:41.180 --> 00:52:43.070
  • PROMISED.
  • 00:52:43.070 --> 00:52:43.230
  • YOU'VE PROMISED GOOD WILL
  • 00:52:43.230 --> 00:52:45.020
  • COME."
  • 00:52:45.020 --> 00:52:45.260
  • - CHAD: BEAUTIFUL.
  • 00:52:45.260 --> 00:52:46.140
  • - LYSA: "AND I DON'T SEE IT.
  • 00:52:46.140 --> 00:52:48.040
  • AND I DON'T LIKE THE WAY IT
  • 00:52:48.040 --> 00:52:50.050
  • LOOKS, RIGHT NOW."
  • 00:52:50.050 --> 00:52:50.200
  • - CHAD: RIGHT.
  • 00:52:50.200 --> 00:52:51.040
  • - LYSA: "BUT SOMEHOW IN THE
  • 00:52:51.040 --> 00:52:51.240
  • HEAVENLY REALMS..."
  • 00:52:51.240 --> 00:52:53.050
  • - CHAD: MMH.
  • 00:52:53.050 --> 00:52:54.050
  • - LYSA: "...YOU ARE SHIFTING
  • 00:52:54.050 --> 00:52:54.260
  • AND ARRANGING A GOOD THAT I
  • 00:52:54.260 --> 00:52:56.170
  • WOULD CHOOSE, IF ONLY I COULD
  • 00:52:56.170 --> 00:52:58.230
  • HAVE BEEN BRAVE ENOUGH TO DO
  • 00:52:58.230 --> 00:52:59.290
  • IT."
  • 00:52:59.290 --> 00:53:02.080
  • - CHAD: WOW.
  • 00:53:02.080 --> 00:53:02.230
  • BEAUTIFUL...BEAUTIFUL.
  • 00:53:02.230 --> 00:53:04.010
  • I, UM...I REALLY JUST WANNA SAY
  • 00:53:05.150 --> 00:53:08.150
  • THANK YOU.
  • 00:53:08.150 --> 00:53:09.210
  • THANK YOU FOR THE WAY YOU LIVE
  • 00:53:09.210 --> 00:53:10.130
  • YOUR LIFE.
  • 00:53:10.130 --> 00:53:11.040
  • THANK YOU FOR YOUR FAITH.
  • 00:53:11.040 --> 00:53:11.230
  • THANK YOU FOR BEING SO
  • 00:53:11.230 --> 00:53:12.150
  • VULNERABLE AND SHARING YOUR
  • 00:53:12.150 --> 00:53:13.050
  • STORY.
  • 00:53:13.050 --> 00:53:14.010
  • AND, IF YOU DON'T MIND, I WOULD
  • 00:53:14.010 --> 00:53:16.110
  • LOVE TO HEAR AN UPDATE: HOW IS
  • 00:53:16.110 --> 00:53:17.180
  • YOUR HUSBAND?
  • 00:53:17.180 --> 00:53:20.070
  • WHAT'S-- WHAT'S GOIN' ON?
  • 00:53:20.070 --> 00:53:21.030
  • IT'S JUST ME AND YOU, RIGHT
  • 00:53:21.030 --> 00:53:22.110
  • NOW.
  • 00:53:22.110 --> 00:53:23.020
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:53:23.020 --> 00:53:24.050
  • IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND SHARING, I
  • 00:53:24.050 --> 00:53:25.240
  • WOULD LOVE TO KNOW: HOW'S THAT
  • 00:53:25.240 --> 00:53:26.160
  • GOING?
  • 00:53:26.160 --> 00:53:26.270
  • - LYSA: I DIDN'T KNOW HOW THE
  • 00:53:26.270 --> 00:53:28.280
  • STORY WAS GONNA TURN OUT.
  • 00:53:28.280 --> 00:53:29.270
  • AND SO, THE BOOK ENDS AND
  • 00:53:29.270 --> 00:53:32.230
  • PEOPLE STILL DON'T...KNOW.
  • 00:53:34.040 --> 00:53:37.040
  • AND SO...THEN, A MIRACULOUS
  • 00:53:37.040 --> 00:53:38.200
  • THING HAPPENED, AND, ART IS NO
  • 00:53:38.200 --> 00:53:40.230
  • LONGER A MAN WALKING AS A
  • 00:53:45.020 --> 00:53:48.020
  • VILLAIN OR A VICTIM IN THIS
  • 00:53:48.020 --> 00:53:49.180
  • STORY.
  • 00:53:49.180 --> 00:53:51.040
  • HE IS NOW WALKING AS A REDEEMED
  • 00:53:51.060 --> 00:53:54.060
  • MAN PURSUING VICTORY.
  • 00:53:54.060 --> 00:53:55.090
  • - CHAD: COME ON!
  • 00:53:55.090 --> 00:53:55.260
  • - LYSA: AND SO, I WROTE...
  • 00:53:55.260 --> 00:53:57.010
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:53:57.010 --> 00:53:58.000
  • [LAUGHS]
  • 00:53:58.000 --> 00:53:59.210
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:54:01.220 --> 00:54:04.220
  • - CHAD: (LAUGHING) COME ON.
  • 00:54:04.220 --> 00:54:05.150
  • - LYSA: AND THOSE ARE HIS
  • 00:54:05.150 --> 00:54:06.250
  • WORDS, BY THE WAY.
  • 00:54:06.250 --> 00:54:07.170
  • I JUST HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO
  • 00:54:07.170 --> 00:54:08.290
  • INTERVIEW ART IN FRONT OF SOME
  • 00:54:08.290 --> 00:54:10.290
  • OF MY FRIENDS, AND, UH...AND
  • 00:54:10.290 --> 00:54:12.190
  • OUR FRIENDS, OUR FAMILY.
  • 00:54:12.190 --> 00:54:14.060
  • AND, UM...AND HE SAID,
  • 00:54:14.060 --> 00:54:17.040
  • "EVERYTHING CHANGED WHEN I
  • 00:54:17.040 --> 00:54:19.030
  • DECIDED TO REALLY, REALLY LET
  • 00:54:19.030 --> 00:54:20.270
  • JESUS BE THE HERO OF MY STORY."
  • 00:54:21.110 --> 00:54:24.110
  • AND HE SAID, "I'M NOT A
  • 00:54:24.110 --> 00:54:24.290
  • VILLAIN.
  • 00:54:24.290 --> 00:54:25.160
  • I'M NOT A VICTIM.
  • 00:54:25.160 --> 00:54:26.280
  • I'M A REDEEMED MAN WALKING IN
  • 00:54:26.280 --> 00:54:28.030
  • VICTORY."
  • 00:54:28.030 --> 00:54:29.090
  • SO...
  • 00:54:29.090 --> 00:54:30.030
  • I WRITE AN EPILOGUE AT THE BACK
  • 00:54:30.030 --> 00:54:31.140
  • OF THE BOOK WHERE I EXPLAIN TO
  • 00:54:31.200 --> 00:54:34.200
  • PEOPLE, UM, I WANT THIS SECOND
  • 00:54:34.200 --> 00:54:36.190
  • CHANCE TO BE GIRDED WITH
  • 00:54:36.190 --> 00:54:37.160
  • GUARANTEES.
  • 00:54:37.160 --> 00:54:38.160
  • - CHAD: MMH.
  • 00:54:38.160 --> 00:54:39.110
  • - LYSA: AND IT'S NOT.
  • 00:54:39.110 --> 00:54:40.080
  • YOU KNOW, WE HAVE NO GUARANTEES
  • 00:54:40.080 --> 00:54:41.000
  • IN THIS LIFE.
  • 00:54:41.000 --> 00:54:41.220
  • - CHAD: RIGHT.
  • 00:54:41.220 --> 00:54:43.110
  • - LYSA: UM...BUT I AM CHOOSING
  • 00:54:43.110 --> 00:54:45.020
  • TO TAKE THE HAND THAT'S BEEN
  • 00:54:45.020 --> 00:54:46.060
  • OFFERED TO ME.
  • 00:54:46.060 --> 00:54:47.170
  • (EMOTIONAL) AND SO, WE ARE
  • 00:54:47.170 --> 00:54:49.210
  • PURSUING RECONCILIATION.
  • 00:54:49.210 --> 00:54:52.150
  • - CHAD: WOW.
  • 00:54:52.150 --> 00:54:53.180
  • - LYSA: AND I'M SO THANKFUL.
  • 00:54:53.180 --> 00:54:54.090
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:54:54.090 --> 00:54:57.010
  • [APPLAUSE, CHEERS]
  • 00:54:57.010 --> 00:54:58.160
  • - CHAD: BEAUTIFUL.
  • 00:54:58.160 --> 00:54:59.020
  • SO AWESOME.
  • 00:54:59.020 --> 00:54:59.200
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:54:59.200 --> 00:55:00.130
  • YOU'RE HERE, YOU'RE RELEASING
  • 00:55:03.160 --> 00:55:04.200
  • THIS BOOK OUT OF YOUR-- THE-- I
  • 00:55:04.200 --> 00:55:06.220
  • ALWAYS LOVE THAT.
  • 00:55:06.220 --> 00:55:08.140
  • YOUR AUTHORITY IS IN YOUR
  • 00:55:08.140 --> 00:55:09.260
  • AUTHENTICITY.
  • 00:55:09.260 --> 00:55:12.110
  • AND I JUST FIND SO MUCH
  • 00:55:12.110 --> 00:55:12.290
  • AUTHORITY IN YOUR WORDS BECAUSE
  • 00:55:12.290 --> 00:55:13.270
  • YOU WERE ABLE TO WALK THROUGH
  • 00:55:13.270 --> 00:55:15.140
  • THIS STUFF AND GO: I'M STILL
  • 00:55:15.140 --> 00:55:17.220
  • GONNA FIND GOD IN THIS.
  • 00:55:17.220 --> 00:55:19.020
  • I'M STILL GONNA FIND HOPE.
  • 00:55:19.020 --> 00:55:20.130
  • SO, WE APPLAUD YOU.
  • 00:55:20.130 --> 00:55:21.170
  • WE CELEBRATE YOU.
  • 00:55:21.170 --> 00:55:22.050
  • DO ME A FAVOR, IF YOU WOULD --
  • 00:55:22.050 --> 00:55:23.150
  • LOOK IN THE CAMERA.
  • 00:55:23.150 --> 00:55:25.000
  • AND THERE'S PEOPLE OUT THERE
  • 00:55:25.000 --> 00:55:27.000
  • THAT...MAYBE HAVEN'T FACED THE
  • 00:55:27.000 --> 00:55:29.090
  • EXACT SAME THING, BUT THEY'RE
  • 00:55:29.090 --> 00:55:30.090
  • FEELING SOME OF THE THINGS THAT
  • 00:55:31.150 --> 00:55:34.150
  • YOU FELT.
  • 00:55:34.150 --> 00:55:35.010
  • THEY'RE FACING SOME OF
  • 00:55:35.010 --> 00:55:35.270
  • THOSE GIANTS THAT SEEM LIKE
  • 00:55:35.270 --> 00:55:37.220
  • CAN YOU ENCOURAGE 'EM?
  • 00:55:41.080 --> 00:55:41.250
  • TALK TO 'EM?
  • 00:55:41.250 --> 00:55:42.270
  • MAYBE PRAY WITH 'EM?
  • 00:55:42.270 --> 00:55:45.150
  • - LYSA: ABSOLUTELY.
  • 00:55:45.150 --> 00:55:46.010
  • FRIEND, I JUST WANNA SPEAK DEEP
  • 00:55:46.010 --> 00:55:47.090
  • INTO YOUR HEART, RIGHT NOW,
  • 00:55:47.090 --> 00:55:49.240
  • THAT IT WILL TAKE JUST AS MUCH
  • 00:55:49.240 --> 00:55:52.210
  • ENERGY FOR YOU TO BE BITTER
  • 00:55:52.210 --> 00:55:55.090
  • ABOUT YOU CIRCUMSTANCES AS IT
  • 00:55:55.090 --> 00:55:56.200
  • WILL TO ASK THE LORD TO HELP
  • 00:55:58.120 --> 00:56:01.140
  • YOU WALK OUT THIS NEXT SEASON
  • 00:56:01.280 --> 00:56:04.280
  • TRUSTING HIM.
  • 00:56:04.280 --> 00:56:05.280
  • AND SO, I WANNA PRAY, RIGHT
  • 00:56:05.280 --> 00:56:06.270
  • NOW.
  • 00:56:06.270 --> 00:56:07.240
  • I WANNA PRAY THAT THE LORD
  • 00:56:07.240 --> 00:56:09.130
  • TOUCHES THE DEEPEST PLACES OF
  • 00:56:09.130 --> 00:56:10.250
  • YOUR HEART, THOSE PLACES THAT
  • 00:56:10.250 --> 00:56:12.290
  • ARE DESPERATE FOR ANSWERS,
  • 00:56:12.290 --> 00:56:14.220
  • ANSWERS THAT MAY NOT COME
  • 00:56:14.220 --> 00:56:16.060
  • TODAY, THEY MAY NOT COME
  • 00:56:16.060 --> 00:56:17.050
  • TOMORROW.
  • 00:56:17.050 --> 00:56:17.210
  • THEY MAY NOT EVER COME.
  • 00:56:17.210 --> 00:56:19.240
  • BUT, YOU CAN TRUST THE ONE WHO
  • 00:56:19.240 --> 00:56:22.240
  • HOLDS EVERY ANSWER.
  • 00:56:22.240 --> 00:56:24.080
  • AND HIS ANSWER IS GOOD.
  • 00:56:24.080 --> 00:56:25.040
  • O GOD, I PRAY, RIGHT NOW, THAT
  • 00:56:26.210 --> 00:56:29.210
  • YOU WOULD TOUCH MY BROTHER, MY
  • 00:56:29.210 --> 00:56:32.030
  • SISTER, WHETHER THEIR
  • 00:56:32.030 --> 00:56:34.280
  • CIRCUMSTANCES ARE THE SAME AS
  • 00:56:34.280 --> 00:56:36.120
  • MINE, OR WHETHER THEY'RE
  • 00:56:36.120 --> 00:56:38.130
  • DIFFERENT, BUT THE EMOTIONAL
  • 00:56:38.130 --> 00:56:39.180
  • DEEP HURT AND PAIN THAT LINGERS
  • 00:56:39.180 --> 00:56:42.100
  • ON AND ON IS THERE.
  • 00:56:42.100 --> 00:56:44.110
  • HELP US BELIEVE THAT HOPE IS
  • 00:56:44.110 --> 00:56:47.050
  • RIGHT THERE FOR US.
  • 00:56:47.050 --> 00:56:49.160
  • GOD, GIVE US RELIEF FROM OUR
  • 00:56:49.160 --> 00:56:51.070
  • UNBELIEF.
  • 00:56:51.070 --> 00:56:52.280
  • HELP US TO TRUST YOU.
  • 00:56:52.280 --> 00:56:54.220
  • AND, GOD, BE WITH US.
  • 00:56:54.220 --> 00:56:56.290
  • HELP US.
  • 00:56:56.290 --> 00:56:58.260
  • LET US CATCH ONE GLIMPSE, JUST
  • 00:56:59.100 --> 00:57:02.120
  • ONE GLIMPSE OF EVIDENCE THAT
  • 00:57:02.120 --> 00:57:04.210
  • YOU ARE HERE WITH US.
  • 00:57:04.210 --> 00:57:06.220
  • I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT WILL BE,
  • 00:57:06.220 --> 00:57:09.220
  • LORD, BUT IF WE CAN JUST CATCH
  • 00:57:09.220 --> 00:57:11.050
  • A GLIMPSE, JUST LIKE WHEN THE
  • 00:57:11.050 --> 00:57:12.170
  • WOMAN WITH THE ISSUE OF BLOOD
  • 00:57:12.170 --> 00:57:14.170
  • JUST REACHED OUT AND BARELY
  • 00:57:14.170 --> 00:57:15.250
  • TOUCHED THE HEM OF YOUR ROBE.
  • 00:57:15.250 --> 00:57:17.160
  • IT JUST IS A SLIGHT TOUCH, A
  • 00:57:17.210 --> 00:57:20.210
  • SLIGHT GLIMPSE.
  • 00:57:20.210 --> 00:57:21.210
  • THAT'S WHAT WE NEED, GOD.
  • 00:57:21.210 --> 00:57:23.010
  • WILL YOU LET US SEE YOU,
  • 00:57:23.010 --> 00:57:24.260
  • EVIDENCE OF YOU BEING THERE
  • 00:57:24.260 --> 00:57:26.150
  • WITH US AND FOR US?
  • 00:57:26.150 --> 00:57:29.000
  • AND IT WILL BE ENOUGH.
  • 00:57:29.000 --> 00:57:31.070
  • WE LOVE YOU, LORD.
  • 00:57:31.070 --> 00:57:32.140
  • WE TRUST YOU.
  • 00:57:32.140 --> 00:57:34.130
  • AND JUST LIKE I PRAYED SO MANY
  • 00:57:34.130 --> 00:57:36.230
  • NIGHTS WHEN I WAS SO ALONE,
  • 00:57:36.230 --> 00:57:38.150
  • JESUS, I LOVE YOU AND YOU LOVE
  • 00:57:38.150 --> 00:57:40.290
  • ME.
  • 00:57:41.140 --> 00:57:44.140
  • AND THAT'S ENOUGH.
  • 00:57:44.140 --> 00:57:46.100
  • AMEN.
  • 00:57:46.100 --> 00:57:48.290
  • - CHAD: AMEN.
  • 00:57:48.290 --> 00:57:50.150
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:57:50.150 --> 00:57:52.100
  • BEAUTIFUL.
  • 00:57:52.100 --> 00:57:52.290
  • BEAUTIFUL.
  • 00:57:53.200 --> 00:57:56.200
  • SO AWESOME.
  • 00:57:56.200 --> 00:57:59.010
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:57:59.010 --> 00:58:00.030
  • WELL, ONCE AGAIN, THANK YOU SO
  • 00:58:00.030 --> 00:58:01.010
  • AND, I CANNOT ENCOURAGE YOU
  • 00:58:03.100 --> 00:58:04.000
  • ENOUGH TO CHECK OUT THIS BOOK.
  • 00:58:04.000 --> 00:58:05.120
  • WE LOVE YOU.
  • 00:58:05.120 --> 00:58:06.240
  • THANKS SO MUCH.
  • 00:58:06.240 --> 00:58:07.130
  • HAVE GREAT HOLIDAYS.
  • 00:58:07.130 --> 00:58:09.070
  • WE'LL SEE YOU SOON.
  • 00:58:09.070 --> 00:58:09.260
  • COME ON, LET'S SEND THESE GUYS
  • 00:58:09.260 --> 00:58:10.290
  • OUT WITH A BIG ROUND OF
  • 00:58:10.290 --> 00:58:11.170
  • [APPLAUSE, CHEERS]
  • 00:58:13.260 --> 00:58:14.170
  • [THEME MUSIC PLAYS]
  • 00:58:14.170 --> 00:58:15.030
  • WE LOVE YOU.
  • 00:58:15.030 --> 00:58:15.150
  • WE'LL SEE YOU NEXT TIME.
  • 00:58:15.150 --> 00:58:16.070
  • [MUSIC CONTINUES]
  • 00:58:16.070 --> 00:58:17.000
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:58:20.170 --> 00:58:23.170