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January 8, 2019
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Praise | Joyce Meyer | 1/8/19

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  • - MALE ANNOUNCER: TONIGHT ON
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  • FROM PALM BEACH, FLORIDA, "NEW
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  • YORK TIMES" BEST-SELLING AUTHOR
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  • AND BIBLE TEACHER...
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  • - ANNOUNCER: AND NOW MATT AND
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  • - MATT CROUCH: "PRAISE" COMES
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  • TO YOU FROM A BEAUTIFUL PART OF
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  • THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
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  • AND BEHIND US IS THE ATLANTIC
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  • OCEAN, AND, JOYCE MEYER, WE'RE
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  • TALKING ABOUT CONFIDENCE
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  • - JOYCE MEYER: YES,
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  • CONFIDENCE.
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  • - MATT: OKAY?
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  • TODAY, ARE YOU CONFIDENT?
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  • - JOYCE MEYER: I'M CONFIDENT
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  • THAT GOD IS GONNA BE WITH US,
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  • AND HE'S GONNA MAKE THIS GOOD.
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  • - LAURIE CROUCH: AMEN.
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  • - MATT: DEVOTIONALS ARE A DAILY
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  • THING WE SHOULD DO.
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  • LET'S START WITH THE IMPORTANCE
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  • AND "THE CONFIDENT WOMAN
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  • DEVOTIONAL."
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  • WHAT'S THE BIG SUBJECT HERE?
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  • - JOYCE: AN UNBELIEVER WITH
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  • CONFIDENCE WILL ACCOMPLISH MORE
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  • THAN A BELIEVER WITHOUT
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  • CONFIDENCE.
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  • - MATT: WOW.
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  • - JOYCE: CONFIDENCE IS A BELIEF
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  • AND GOD NEVER CALLS US TO DO
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  • SOMETHING WITHOUT GIVING US THE
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  • FAITH TO DO IT.
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  • IT'S THERE, BUT FAITH REQUIRES
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  • US TO STEP OUT.
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  • I WAS READIN' A BOOK RECENTLY,
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  • AND I LIKED THIS STATEMENT:
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  • "FAITH REQUIRES YOU TO TAKE STEP
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  • NUMBER ONE BEFORE YOU KNOW WHAT
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  • STEP NUMBER TWO IS," AND THAT'S
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  • EXACTLY RIGHT.
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  • AND ANYBODY WHO STEPS OUT IN
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  • FAITH HAS TO BE WILLING TO BE
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  • WRONG TO FIND OUT IF THEY'RE
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  • RIGHT, AND SO, YOU KNOW, OF
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  • COURSE, EVERYBODY NEEDS
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  • CONFIDENCE, BUT WOMEN IN
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  • PARTICULAR BECAUSE THEY'RE A
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  • LITTLE MORE EMOTIONALLY DRIVEN
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  • SOMETIMES.
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  • THEY WANNA FEEL CONFIDENT, AND
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  • THE THING THAT I HAVE DISCOVERED
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  • IS YOU CAN BE CONFIDENT WHETHER
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  • YOU FEEL CONFIDENT OR NOT.
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  • - LAURIE: OKAY, THAT'S HARD.
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  • HOW DO WE DO THAT?
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  • - JOYCE: I THINK IT'S JUST--
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  • IT'S A DECISION.
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  • IF YOU KNOW THAT GOD WANTS YOU
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  • TO DO SOMETHING, THEN YOU HAVE
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  • TO BELIEVE THAT HE'S NOT GONNA
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  • LET YOU DOWN, YOU KNOW, I MEAN,
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  • GOD'S NOT GONNA CALL ME TO TEACH
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  • AND THEN LET ME GET UP AND MAKE
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  • A FOOL OUT OF MYSELF EVERY TIME
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  • I GET UP.
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  • I MEAN, IT'S NOT THAT I COULDN'T
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  • DO THAT IF I DIDN'T FOLLOW HIS
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  • LEADING, BUT I DON'T ALWAYS FEEL
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  • CONFIDENT.
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  • I MEAN, I HAD A SITUATION LAST
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  • WEEKEND.
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  • I WAS DOIN' A CONFERENCE, AND
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  • THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN TO ME VERY
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  • OFTEN, BUT I TAUGHT A MESSAGE
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  • THAT I JUST THOUGHT WAS
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  • TERRIBLE.
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  • I MEAN, I JUST--
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  • - MATT: THAT SURPRISES ME.
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  • - JOYCE: I MEAN, WHEN I'M
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  • WATCHIN' THE CLOCK AND I CAN'T
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  • WAIT TILL I'M DONE--
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  • [LAUGHTER]
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  • THEN I KNOW THAT IT'S BAD, AND
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  • SO I JUST COULDN'T GET
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  • COMFORTABLE.
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  • I FELT LIKE I WASN'T MAKIN' ANY
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  • SENSE, AND, OF COURSE, YOU KNOW,
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  • EVERYBODY SAID, "IT WAS GREAT.
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  • IT WAS REALLY GOOD.
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  • IT WAS FUN."
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  • AND SO-- AND I NEVER DO THIS
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  • EITHER, BUT I HAD THEM
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  • SEND ME A COPY OF IT.
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  • I SAID, "I WANNA LISTEN TO
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  • SATURDAY MORNING'S TEACHING,"
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  • WHICH I NEVER ASK FOR, SO THEY
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  • WERE CURIOUS, TOO, AT THE
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  • OFFICE.
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  • AND I LISTENED TO IT, AND IT WAS
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  • JUST FINE-- WAS JUST A GOOD
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  • TEACHING.
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  • MATTER OF FACT, IT WAS A REALLY
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  • GOOD TEACHING, AND SO IN-- BUT I
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  • KNOW WHAT WAS WRONG.
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  • I WAS TEACHING OUT OF THE BOOK
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  • OF GALATIANS.
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  • I'M DOIN', LIKE, SOME
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  • GOIN'-THROUGH-THE-BIBLE STUFF
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  • WHERE I'M GONNA TURN 'EM INTO
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  • COMMENTARIES, AND GALATIANS CAN
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  • GET A LITTLE MORE COMPLICATED
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  • BECAUSE OF ALL THE STUFF ABOUT
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  • THE LAW AND GRACE AND
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  • CIRCUMCISION AND THE TWO
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  • COVENANTS, AND, YOU KNOW, I
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  • SAID, "YOU HAVEN'T HAD ANY FUN
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  • UNTIL YOU'RE STANDIN' IN FRONT
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  • OF SEVERAL THOUSAND PEOPLE,
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  • TRYIN' TO TEACH ABOUT
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  • CIRCUMCISION."
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  • THAT'S JUST REALLY A BLAST,
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  • AND I GOT IT IN MY HEAD--
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  • OR THE DEVIL GOT IT IN
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  • MY HEAD BEFORE I GOT THERE--
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  • THAT IT JUST WAS GONNA BE HARD
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  • FOR PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND 'CAUSE
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  • ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I DO WHEN
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  • I TEACH IS I ALWAYS SEEM TO HAVE
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  • THIS AWARENESS--
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  • IT'S JUST A GIFT GOD'S GIVEN
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  • ME--
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  • THAT THERE'S PEOPLE THERE
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  • AT ALL DIFFERENT LEVELS
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  • OF THEIR WALK WITH GOD,
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  • SO YOU HAVE TO BE VERY
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  • CAREFUL AS A TEACHER THAT YOU
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  • DON'T JUST TEACH WHAT A VERY
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  • SPIRITUALLY MATURE PERSON CAN
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  • GRASP, BUT I WANT EVERYBODY TO
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  • GO WITH SOMETHING, AND I WANT
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  • EVERYBODY TO LEARN SOMETHING, SO
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  • I TRY TO SAY THINGS IN A WAY
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  • THAT WILL FEED THE BRAND-NEW
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  • CHRISTIAN OR EVEN MAKE SOME
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  • SENSE TO SOMEBODY WHO'S THERE
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  • THAT'S NOT EVEN BORN AGAIN, BUT
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  • ALSO FEED THE MATURE.
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  • AND SO THAT SUBJECT WAS JUST A
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  • LITTLE BIT HARDER, YOU KNOW,
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  • BECAUSE PAUL TALKS A LOT--
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  • EXCEPT FOR CHAPTER 6, I THINK
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  • ALL THE CHAPTERS ARE ABOUT THE
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  • LAW VERSUS GRACE, SO I HAD TO BE
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  • VERY CREATIVE IN FINDING
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  • DIFFERENT WAYS TO PRESENT THIS.
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  • ANYWAY, I GOT IT IN MY HEAD I
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  • DID NOT HAVE CONFIDENCE WHEN I
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  • GOT UP TO SPEAK IT, SO,
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  • THEREFORE, I LET THE WAY I FELT,
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  • IT--
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  • - LAURIE: TRANSLATED--
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  • - JOYCE: WELL, IT CAME BACK,
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  • GOD DID THE PREACHING GOOD,
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  • BUT I DIDN'T ENJOY IT
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  • BECAUSE I DIDN'T HAVE THE
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  • CONFIDENCE THAT IT WAS GOOD.
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  • I MEAN, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT
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  • THE LORD'S TAUGHT ME-- OF
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  • COURSE, WE'RE TALKIN' ABOUT A
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  • LOT OF THINGS HERE OTHER THAN
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  • PUBLIC SPEAKING.
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  • YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT THE ONLY
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  • THING THAT PEOPLE ARE AFRAID OF,
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  • BUT HE JUST-- HE'S TOLD ME, "YOU
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  • CANNOT LOSE YOUR CONFIDENCE WHEN
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  • YOU GET IN THE PULPIT," YOU
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  • KNOW, 'CAUSE WHEN I FIRST
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  • STARTED, I MEAN, IF SOMEBODY GOT
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  • UP AND LEFT IN THE MIDDLE OF MY
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  • PREACHING, I WAS TOTALLY
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  • CONVINCED IT WAS NO GOOD.
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  • AND I REMEMBER ONE OCCASION
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  • WHERE A WOMAN CAME, AND SHE
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  • WAS ON ABOUT THE END OF THE
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  • SECOND ROW, AND I HAD JUST--
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  • MAYBE IT WAS FIVE MINUTES INTO
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  • MY TEACHING, AND SHE GOT UP AND
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  • LEFT.
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  • WELL, I WAS MISERABLE THE WHOLE
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  • ENTIRE TIME I WAS TEACHING
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  • BECAUSE I THOUGHT IT WAS NO
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  • GOOD, AND SOMEBODY TOLD ME WHEN
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  • I WAS DONE, THEY SAID, "YOU
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  • KNOW, THERE WAS A WOMAN SITTIN'
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  • ON THE SECOND ROW THAT LEFT JUST
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  • A FEW MINUTES AFTER YOU STARTED,
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  • BUT SHE JUST WANTED YOU TO KNOW
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  • THAT HER WORK SCHEDULE ONLY
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  • ALLOWED HER TO BE HERE FIVE
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  • MINUTES, BUT SHE LOVES YOU SO
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  • MUCH SHE WANTED TO COME JUST FOR
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  • FIVE MINUTES."
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  • AND SO, HERE, I LET THE DEVIL
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  • USE IT AND LIE TO ME,
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  • YOU KNOW, SO WE NEED THE WORD
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  • TO BELIEVE THE BEST AND NOT
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  • TAKE EVERYTHING ON OURSELVES.
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  • I MEAN, PEOPLE-- THERE COULD BE
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  • ALL KINDS OF REASONS WHY PEOPLE
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  • HAVE TO DO SOMETHIN' LIKE THAT,
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  • SO I'VE GROWN A LOT OVER THE
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  • YEARS, BUT, I MEAN, JUST LAST
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  • SATURDAY THAT HAPPENED TO ME,
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  • AND, LIKE I SAID, IT RARELY EVER
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  • HAPPENS, BUT I'LL LEARN A GOOD
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  • LESSON OUT OF THAT.
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  • YOU KNOW, I WILL NOT GET IN THE
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  • PULPIT ANYMORE IF I'M NOT SURE
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  • THAT WHAT I'VE GOT IS THE RIGHT
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  • THING.
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  • AND THEN GOD TOLD ME TOO, HE
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  • SAID, "YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT REALLY
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  • YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE THEM
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  • UNDERSTAND.
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  • IT'S YOUR JOB TO PREACH.
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  • IT'S MY RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE
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  • 'EM UNDERSTAND."
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  • - MATT: THAT'S BEAUTIFUL, WOW.
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  • - JOYCE: AND SO THAT HELPED.
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  • - MATT: JOYCE MEYER IS SITTING
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  • WITH US HERE IN BEAUTIFUL SOUTH
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  • FLORIDA.
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  • "THE CONFIDENT WOMAN DEVOTIONAL"
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  • IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
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  • TODAY.
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  • THERE'S AN 800 NUMBER ON YOUR
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  • SCREEN.
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  • IT IS AVAILABLE RIGHT NOW FOR
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  • YOU TO CALL.
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  • WE'VE DONE THAT AS A CONVENIENCE
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  • FOR YOU, AND THE OPERATORS KNOW
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  • THAT YOU'RE CALLING ABOUT THIS
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  • EXACT BOOK, "THE CONFIDENT
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  • THE DEVOTIONAL IS AVAILABLE AT
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  • AMAZON, WHEREVER YOU BUY BOOKS,
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  • ALL OF THAT, AND IT IS FROM
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  • JOYCE MEYER, WHO HAPPENS TO BE A
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  • "NEW YORK TIMES" NUMBER ONE
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  • BEST-SELLER-- IS WITH US ALL ONE
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  • HOUR TO BREAK THIS DOWN.
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  • CAN I JUST SAY THAT CONFIDENCE
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  • IS THAT OKAY?
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  • - JOYCE: SURE.
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  • - MATT: IT IS.
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  • - LAURIE: OKAY.
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  • [LAUGHTER]
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  • - MATT: SO, I MEAN, THERE'S
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  • SOME OTHER BENEFITS.
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  • I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THINK
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  • OF DAVE.
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  • - LAURIE: ADD THAT TO THE LIST.
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  • - JOYCE: CONFIDENCE INSPIRES
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  • CONFIDENCE.
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  • FIRST OF ALL, YOU ASKED ME TO
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  • SPEAK TO WHY A DEVOTIONAL WAS
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  • IMPORTANT, AND I DIDN'T GET
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  • AROUND TO IT.
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  • I GOT OFF ON SOMETHIN' ELSE.
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  • SO, YOU KNOW, DEVOTIONALS, FIRST
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  • OF ALL, THEY'RE EASY.
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  • - LAURIE: YES.
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  • - JOYCE: YOU KNOW, WE REALLY
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  • ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO START THEIR
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  • DAY WITH GOD.
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  • I THINK THAT, TO ME, THAT'S JUST
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  • REALLY IMPORTANT, AND I'M NOT--
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  • YOU KNOW, "WELL, I'M NOT A
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  • MORNING PERSON."
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  • WELL, YOU KNOW,
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  • IF YOU ONLY CAN GIVE GOD FIVE
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  • MINUTES IN THE MORNING,
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  • YOU KNOW, START YOUR DAY SAYIN'
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  • SOMETHIN' TO THE LORD.
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  • AND SO DEVOTIONALS LIKE THIS
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  • MAKE IT VERY EASY TO DO THAT.
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  • NOW, YOU CAN ALWAYS TAKE A
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  • DEVOTIONAL, AND THEN YOU CAN
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  • EXPAND ON IT.
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  • LIKE, IF YOU WANNA USE IT AS A
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  • STUDY TOOL, YOU START WITH THIS,
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  • AND THEN YOU LOOK UP OTHER
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  • SCRIPTURES THAT ARE ABOUT THAT
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  • SUBJECT,
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  • OR YOU THINK ABOUT HOW IT CAN
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  • BE APPLIED TO YOUR OWN LIFE.
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  • BUT THE DEVIL STAYS BUSY TRYIN'
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  • TO STEAL OUR CONFIDENCE BECAUSE,
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  • WHEN YOU HAVE NO CONFIDENCE,
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  • YOU'RE GONNA END UP NOT DOING
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  • ANYTHING WITH YOUR LIFE, AND I
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  • JUST THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT
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  • FOR PEOPLE TO-- YOU KNOW, YOU
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  • DON'T WANNA GO AROUND SAYIN',
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  • "WELL, I JUST DON'T HAVE ANY
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  • CONFIDENCE.
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  • I DON'T HAVE ANY CONFIDENCE."
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  • YEAH, YOU DO.
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  • YOU KNOW, MAYBE YOU'RE WAITING
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  • FOR A FEELING, AND WHAT YOU NEED
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  • TO DO IS JUST TAKE STEPS OF
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  • AND THEN AS YOU-- IF YOU REALLY
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  • BELIEVE GOD'S ASKED YOU TO DO
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  • SOMETHING AND YOU TAKE THAT STEP
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  • OF FAITH, AND THEN YOU SEE HIS
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  • FAITHFULNESS, THEN IT MAKES IT
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  • BUT LIKE I SAID EARLIER, IF
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  • YOU'RE GONNA TAKE A STEP OF
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  • FAITH, YOU MIGHT HAVE TO BE
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  • WILLING TO BE WRONG TO FIND OUT
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  • IF YOU'RE RIGHT.
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  • - MATT: DID YOU ANSWER THAT TO
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  • AVOID THE "HOT" STATEMENT OR--
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  • [LAUGHTER]
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  • -- OR ARE YOU-- I MEAN, 'CAUSE
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  • IT IS.
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  • I MEAN--
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  • - JOYCE: WELL, WHAT DO YOU MEAN
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  • BY THAT?
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  • - LAURIE: YEAH.
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  • - JOYCE: SINCE YOU STARTED IT.
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  • - MATT: WELL, CONFIDENCE IS
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  • ATTRACTIVE, OKAY?
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  • - JOYCE: YEAH, OKAY, YEAH.
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  • - MATT: AND WHEN YOU FEEL
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  • CONFIDENT, THAT IS ATTRACTING,
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  • OKAY?
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  • - JOYCE: RIGHT.
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  • - MATT: SO, I MEAN--
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  • - JOYCE: AND WHEN YOU FEEL
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  • CONFIDENT, PEOPLE PUT CONFIDENCE
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  • IN YOU.
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  • - MATT: OKAY, DOES DAVE NOT
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  • TALK TO YOU ABOUT CONFIDENCE?
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  • AND, YOU KNOW--
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  • - LAURIE: SHE HAS A LOT BUT--
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  • SHE NORMALLY HAS A LOT OF
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  • CONFIDENCE.
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  • - MATT: YEAH.
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  • DOES HE TALK ABOUT IT BEING
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  • "HOT"?
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  • - JOYCE: NO.
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  • [LAUGHTER]
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  • - MATT: SO AM I OUT OF BOUNDS
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  • HERE, OR, I MEAN, IS THAT OKAY?
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  • - LAURIE: I THINK WE NEED TO
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  • START THIS PROGRAM OVER WITH ALL
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  • THAT OUT.
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  • [LAUGHTER]
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  • - MATT: I JUST THINK THAT, WHEN
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  • YOU FEEL CONFIDENT ABOUT
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  • YOURSELF, IT'S VERY ATTRACTIVE.
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  • - LAURIE: WELL, LIKE, SHE JUST
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  • SAID SOMETHING VERY IMPORTANT:
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  • CONFIDENCE BREEDS CONFIDENCE.
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  • - JOYCE: YEAH.
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  • - LAURIE: I HAVE LACKED IN
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  • THAT.
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  • I JUST-- YOU KNOW, LET'S NOT
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  • TALK ABOUT ALL MY PROBLEMS, BUT
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  • THAT'S JUST SOMETHIN'--
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  • - MATT: CAN WE TALK ABOUT AT
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  • LEAST SOME OF 'EM THOUGH?
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  • [LAUGHTER]
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  • 'CAUSE JOYCE IS HERE TO REFEREE,
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  • AND I LIKE THAT.
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  • - JOYCE: I'D KIND OF LIKE TO
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  • TALK ABOUT SOME OF YOURS.
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  • YOU KNOW, IT'S ALWAYS THE WOMEN
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  • THAT HAVE THE PROBLEMS.
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  • [LAUGHTER]
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  • - LAURIE: LET'S DO THAT.
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  • - MATT: IT'S TWO ON ONE, ALL OF
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  • A SUDDEN.
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  • - LAURIE: SO HERE'S TWO
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  • CONFIDENT WOMEN, BABY.
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  • [LAUGHTER]
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  • YOU THINK THAT'S HOT?
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  • - MATT: CAN I HAVE A KISS?
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  • - LAURIE: NO.
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  • [LAUGHTER]
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  • - JOYCE: SO HAVE YOU LACKED
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  • CONFIDENCE?
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  • - LAURIE: I THINK I HAVE.
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  • I JUST HAVEN'T BEEN REAL DRIVEN
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  • TO GET OUT THERE AND JUST DO
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  • THINGS, AND WE DO-- I MEAN, I'M
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  • ALWAYS OUT THERE DOIN' THINGS,
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  • BUT TO JUST DO IT, KIND OF,
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  • ALONE AND, YOU KNOW--
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  • - JOYCE: FIRST OF ALL, I DON'T
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  • THINK YOU SHOULD EVER FEEL THAT
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  • YOU HAVE TO BE DRIVEN TO DO
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  • SOMETHING THAT YOU DON'T FEEL
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  • THAT GOD WANTS YOU TO DO.
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  • - LAURIE: YEAH.
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  • - JOYCE: ONE OF THE THINGS
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  • ABOUT CONFIDENCE IS IT'S THE
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  • CONFIDENCE TO BE WHO YOU ARE AND
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  • NOT TO HAVE TO COMPARE YOURSELF
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  • WITH SOMEBODY ELSE.
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  • YOU KNOW, IT'S-- I MEAN, I WANNA
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  • DO ANYTHING GOD WANTS ME TO DO,
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  • BUT IT TOOK ME A LONG TIME TO
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  • GET OVER FEELIN' LIKE I HAD TO
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  • DO WHAT YOU'RE DOING OR I HAD TO
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  • BE THE KIND OF PERSON YOU ARE.
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  • YOU KNOW, I USED TO JUST WANT TO
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  • BE SO MUCH SWEETER THAN WHAT I
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  • WOULD NATURALLY COME ACROSS, YOU
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  • KNOW?
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  • [LAUGHTER]
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  • AND MY PASTOR'S WIFE WAS SO
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  • SWEET, AND, BACK THEN, I WAS SO
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  • INSECURE, AND SHE WAS JUST
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  • LIKE-- SHE WAS A SMALL, PETITE
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  • BLONDE, REALLY CUTE, REALLY
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  • SWEET, SO SUBMISSIVE TO HER
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  • HUSBAND: "YES, HONEY," "OF
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  • COURSE, DEAR," AND I'M LIKE, "DO
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  • IT YOURSELF," YOU KNOW?
  • 00:12:35.200 --> 00:12:37.030
  • [LAUGHTER]
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  • - LAURIE: "I'LL GIVE YOU
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  • CONFIDENCE."
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  • [LAUGHTER]
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  • - JOYCE: AND SO I GOT IT IN MY
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  • HEAD I NEEDED TO BE LIKE HER,
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  • AND I KNOW THIS IS MINISTERING
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  • TO PEOPLE BECAUSE PEOPLE JUST
  • 00:12:48.190 --> 00:12:51.190
  • TEND TO COMPARE THEMSELVES WITH
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  • OTHER PEOPLE AND TRY TO BE LIKE
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  • THEM OR TO DO WHAT THEY DO UNTIL
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  • YOU LEARN BETTER.
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  • SO IF YOU HAVE THAT PROBLEM, I
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  • HOPE ON THIS SHOW YOU'LL LEARN
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  • BETTER.
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  • - LAURIE: WELL, CAN I SAY ONE
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  • THING TO THAT?
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  • I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE STRUGGLE
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  • JUST LIKE THAT, THAT "I'VE GOT A
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  • GIFT; YOU'VE GOT A GIFT, BUT MY
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  • GIFT IS ENOUGH."
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  • YOU KNOW, EVEN THOUGH SHE'S
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  • GOT THE OTHER GIFT,
  • 00:13:16.000 --> 00:13:17.260
  • YOU ARE SO CONFIDENT; YOU SPEAK
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  • THE WORD SO BEAUTIFULLY,
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  • AND YOU DON'T STRUGGLE
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  • TO FIND THE WORDS.
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  • I DON'T HAVE THAT, BUT I AM WHAT
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  • I AM, AND YOU HAVE TO ALWAYS
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  • THINK THAT YOU JUST NEED TO BE
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  • CONFIDENT IN YOUR GIFT AND THAT
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  • THAT IS-- THAT'S WHAT GOD'S
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  • CALLED YOU TO DO, AND THAT'S
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  • ENOUGH.
  • 00:13:34.110 --> 00:13:35.060
  • - JOYCE: GOTTA BLOOM WHERE
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  • YOU'RE PLANTED.
  • 00:13:36.080 --> 00:13:36.230
  • - LAURIE: ABSOLUTELY.
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  • - JOYCE: ONE OF THE MOST
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  • MISERABLE THINGS IN THE WORLD IS
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  • TO TRY TO BE SOMETHING OR
  • 00:13:40.050 --> 00:13:41.260
  • SOMEONE THAT YOU'RE NOT, AND YOU
  • 00:13:41.260 --> 00:13:43.130
  • END UP JUST REALLY MAKIN' A FOOL
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  • OUT OF YOURSELF.
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  • I MEAN, I ACTUALLY TRIED TO
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  • LOWER MY VOICE AND SOUND SWEET
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  • SO I WOULD BE LIKE HER, AND IT
  • 00:13:52.140 --> 00:13:54.020
  • JUST-- PEOPLE WOULD SAY, "WHAT
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  • IS WRONG WITH YOU?
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  • SOMETHIN' WRONG WITH YOUR
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  • VOICE?"
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  • - MATT: HAND YOU A LOZENGE.
  • 00:13:59.170 --> 00:14:01.060
  • [LAUGHTER]
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  • - JOYCE: AND THEN THE THING
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  • WAS, HER AND I HAD A HARD TIME
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  • GETTING ALONG, AND LONG STORY
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  • SHORT, IT COMES AROUND TO SHE
  • 00:14:06.190 --> 00:14:08.090
  • WAS-- THE DEVIL WAS TELLING HER
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  • THE EXACT SAME LIE HE WAS
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  • TELLING ME IN THE REVERSE: "YOU
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  • NEED TO BE MORE LIKE JOYCE.
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  • YOU NEED TO BE BOLDER.
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  • YOU NEED TO BE MORE AGGRESSIVE."
  • 00:14:15.130 --> 00:14:16.250
  • AND SO I WONDER HOW MANY PEOPLE
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  • COULD BE GREAT FRIENDS IF THEY
  • 00:14:18.210 --> 00:14:20.260
  • COULD ACCEPT ONE ANOTHER'S GIFTS
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  • AS BEING A-- YOU KNOW, YOUR
  • 00:14:24.040 --> 00:14:27.040
  • GIFTS ARE A BENEFIT TO ME.
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  • I TELL PEOPLE ALL THE TIME, "MY
  • 00:14:29.000 --> 00:14:29.220
  • GIFT DOESN'T BENEFIT ME.
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  • IT CAUSES ME TO WORK.
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  • YOU BENEFIT FROM IT."
  • 00:14:32.060 --> 00:14:33.240
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:14:33.240 --> 00:14:34.110
  • BUT THEN-- SO, LIKE, IF I'M
  • 00:14:34.110 --> 00:14:36.130
  • LISTENING TO SOMEBODY SING THAT
  • 00:14:36.190 --> 00:14:39.190
  • HAS A WONDERFUL VOICE, I USED TO
  • 00:14:39.190 --> 00:14:42.010
  • THINK, "OH, I WISH I COULD SING
  • 00:14:42.010 --> 00:14:43.110
  • LIKE THAT," AND GOD PUT IT ON MY
  • 00:14:43.110 --> 00:14:45.110
  • HEART, HE SAID, "STOP WISHING
  • 00:14:45.110 --> 00:14:46.100
  • YOU COULD DO IT AND JUST ENJOY
  • 00:14:46.100 --> 00:14:47.040
  • IT.
  • 00:14:47.080 --> 00:14:50.080
  • I PUT THAT GIFT IN HER FOR YOU
  • 00:14:50.080 --> 00:14:50.290
  • TO ENJOY," JUST LIKE THE GIFTS
  • 00:14:52.010 --> 00:14:55.010
  • THAT I HAVE, OR THAT YOU HAVE OR
  • 00:14:55.010 --> 00:14:56.070
  • YOU HAVE, THEY'RE FOR OTHER
  • 00:14:56.070 --> 00:14:57.100
  • PEOPLE TO ENJOY.
  • 00:14:57.100 --> 00:14:58.140
  • GOD GIVES US OUR GIFTS ALL
  • 00:14:58.140 --> 00:14:59.230
  • DIFFERENTLY BECAUSE WE ALL NEED
  • 00:14:59.230 --> 00:15:01.110
  • EACH OTHER.
  • 00:15:01.110 --> 00:15:03.180
  • - LAURIE: AND WE ALL FIT
  • 00:15:03.180 --> 00:15:04.090
  • TOGETHER PERFECTLY, AND WE'RE
  • 00:15:04.090 --> 00:15:05.150
  • - MATT: OKAY, SO WE ARE
  • 00:15:08.230 --> 00:15:10.000
  • DISCUSSING "THE CONFIDENT WOMAN
  • 00:15:10.000 --> 00:15:10.220
  • DEVOTIONAL."
  • 00:15:10.220 --> 00:15:12.070
  • YOU STARTED WITH WHY A
  • 00:15:12.070 --> 00:15:13.230
  • DEVOTIONAL, IN GENERAL, IS
  • 00:15:13.230 --> 00:15:14.220
  • IMPORTANT.
  • 00:15:14.220 --> 00:15:15.290
  • NOW THE CONFIDENCE THING: SO
  • 00:15:15.290 --> 00:15:17.150
  • WE'RE ON THIS CONFIDENCE THING,
  • 00:15:17.150 --> 00:15:18.100
  • AND WAS THERE EVER A TIME WHEN
  • 00:15:18.100 --> 00:15:21.090
  • YOU WEREN'T CONFIDENT?
  • 00:15:21.090 --> 00:15:23.060
  • - JOYCE: WELL, I TAUGHT A HOME
  • 00:15:25.260 --> 00:15:26.180
  • BIBLE STUDY FOR FIVE YEARS.
  • 00:15:26.180 --> 00:15:29.150
  • THAT WAS HOW MY MINISTRY
  • 00:15:29.150 --> 00:15:30.030
  • STARTED, AND I TAUGHT, LIKE,
  • 00:15:30.030 --> 00:15:31.010
  • 20, 25 PEOPLE.
  • 00:15:31.010 --> 00:15:31.270
  • THEY ALL SAT IN MY LIVING ROOM
  • 00:15:31.270 --> 00:15:32.250
  • FLOOR EVERY TUESDAY EVENING,
  • 00:15:32.250 --> 00:15:34.100
  • AND, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE, I
  • 00:15:34.100 --> 00:15:35.280
  • WANTED GOD TO RELEASE ME ON THE
  • 00:15:35.280 --> 00:15:37.080
  • WORLD, BUT I WOULD'VE BEEN A
  • 00:15:37.080 --> 00:15:39.230
  • REAL BIG DISASTER IF THAT
  • 00:15:39.230 --> 00:15:42.090
  • WOULD'VE HAPPENED, AND THEN I
  • 00:15:42.110 --> 00:15:45.110
  • FELT LIKE GOD WANTED ME TO STOP
  • 00:15:45.110 --> 00:15:46.280
  • THAT BIBLE STUDY, AND I HEARD
  • 00:15:46.280 --> 00:15:49.210
  • HIM SAY, "BEHOLD, I DO A NEW
  • 00:15:49.240 --> 00:15:52.240
  • THING."
  • 00:15:52.240 --> 00:15:54.090
  • WELL, I WAS EXPECTING,
  • 00:15:54.090 --> 00:15:55.230
  • SOME BIG MAJOR DOOR TO OPEN
  • 00:15:56.200 --> 00:15:59.200
  • THE NEXT DAY, BUT THE FACT
  • 00:15:59.200 --> 00:16:01.120
  • WAS, FOR A WHOLE YEAR, I DID
  • 00:16:01.120 --> 00:16:02.140
  • NOTHING IN MINISTRY, AND IT WAS
  • 00:16:03.240 --> 00:16:06.240
  • A VERY HARD TIME FOR ME BECAUSE
  • 00:16:06.240 --> 00:16:08.070
  • YOU CAN IMAGINE ALL THE THINGS
  • 00:16:08.070 --> 00:16:09.170
  • YOU GO THROUGH.
  • 00:16:09.170 --> 00:16:10.050
  • IT'S LIKE, "WELL, DID I MAKE A
  • 00:16:10.050 --> 00:16:11.040
  • MISTAKE QUITTIN' THE BIBLE
  • 00:16:11.040 --> 00:16:12.050
  • STUDY?"
  • 00:16:12.050 --> 00:16:13.010
  • "WELL, AM I MISSING GOD?"
  • 00:16:13.010 --> 00:16:14.000
  • WELL, THE DEVIL WOULD SAY,
  • 00:16:14.000 --> 00:16:15.120
  • "YOU'RE NOT CALLED AT ALL.
  • 00:16:15.120 --> 00:16:16.260
  • THIS IS ALL JUST A PIPE DREAM."
  • 00:16:16.260 --> 00:16:18.100
  • BUT, YOU KNOW, WE LIVE LIFE
  • 00:16:18.100 --> 00:16:21.040
  • FORWARD, BUT WE UNDERSTAND IT
  • 00:16:21.040 --> 00:16:22.200
  • BACKWARD, AND SO A LOT OF THE
  • 00:16:22.200 --> 00:16:24.020
  • THINGS THAT PEOPLE ARE GOIN'
  • 00:16:24.020 --> 00:16:25.090
  • THROUGH, THEY JUST DON'T MAKE
  • 00:16:25.090 --> 00:16:26.050
  • ANY SENSE TO THEM, BUT GOD DOES
  • 00:16:26.050 --> 00:16:27.030
  • HAVE A PURPOSE IN WHAT HE DOES.
  • 00:16:27.030 --> 00:16:29.010
  • AND SO I LOOK BACK NOW, AND I
  • 00:16:29.080 --> 00:16:32.080
  • REALIZE THAT, BEFORE GOD COULD
  • 00:16:32.080 --> 00:16:34.280
  • PROMOTE ME TO THE NEXT LEVEL OF
  • 00:16:34.280 --> 00:16:36.050
  • MINISTRY THAT HE HAD FOR ME,
  • 00:16:36.050 --> 00:16:37.200
  • WHICH WAS WORKING IN A CHURCH
  • 00:16:37.200 --> 00:16:38.240
  • FOR FIVE YEARS AND LEARNING HOW
  • 00:16:38.240 --> 00:16:41.030
  • TO WORK WITH OTHER PEOPLE AND
  • 00:16:41.030 --> 00:16:42.120
  • FUNCTION-- THAT'S WHERE I GOT
  • 00:16:42.140 --> 00:16:45.140
  • ORDAINED AND JUST A LOT OF GREAT
  • 00:16:45.140 --> 00:16:46.250
  • THINGS-- BUT HE USED THAT YEAR
  • 00:16:48.060 --> 00:16:51.060
  • TO TEACH ME TO BE MYSELF THROUGH
  • 00:16:51.060 --> 00:16:53.160
  • SOME VERY FUNNY WAYS, AND, YOU
  • 00:16:54.040 --> 00:16:57.040
  • KNOW, I TELL THIS IN MY
  • 00:16:57.080 --> 00:17:00.100
  • TEACHINGS, BUT WE'LL TELL IT
  • 00:17:00.100 --> 00:17:01.230
  • HERE FOR TBN: I HAD A GIRL THAT
  • 00:17:01.230 --> 00:17:03.170
  • LIVED NEXT DOOR TO ME.
  • 00:17:03.170 --> 00:17:05.260
  • HER AND I WERE FRIENDS, AND, OF
  • 00:17:05.260 --> 00:17:08.150
  • COURSE, WE WERE VERY DIFFERENT,
  • 00:17:08.150 --> 00:17:09.200
  • AND SHE WAS VERY CREATIVE.
  • 00:17:11.100 --> 00:17:14.100
  • SHE SEWED HER FAMILY'S CLOTHES,
  • 00:17:14.100 --> 00:17:15.100
  • SHE PAINTED, SHE MOWED THE LAWN.
  • 00:17:17.230 --> 00:17:20.230
  • I COULDN'T EVEN START THE STUPID
  • 00:17:20.230 --> 00:17:22.080
  • LAWN MOWER, LET ALONE GET OUT
  • 00:17:22.080 --> 00:17:22.290
  • AND MOW THE LAWN.
  • 00:17:23.170 --> 00:17:26.170
  • AND SHE JUST-- SHE HAD A GARDEN.
  • 00:17:27.180 --> 00:17:30.180
  • SHE GREW TOMATOES, AND SHE MADE
  • 00:17:30.180 --> 00:17:31.210
  • JAM, AND ALL THIS STUFF.
  • 00:17:31.210 --> 00:17:32.170
  • WELL, SHE STARTED-- AND, YOU
  • 00:17:32.170 --> 00:17:33.220
  • KNOW, WE'RE ALL KIND OF BAD AT
  • 00:17:33.220 --> 00:17:34.130
  • THIS: WHATEVER WE'RE GOOD AT, WE
  • 00:17:34.130 --> 00:17:35.140
  • WANT EVERYBODY ELSE TO BE GOOD
  • 00:17:35.140 --> 00:17:36.160
  • AT IT TOO, AND SO SHE STARTED
  • 00:17:38.050 --> 00:17:41.050
  • TRYIN' TO GET ME TO SEW, YOU
  • 00:17:41.050 --> 00:17:42.280
  • KNOW, AND HAVE A GARDEN AND DO A
  • 00:17:42.280 --> 00:17:45.060
  • LOT OF THINGS THE WAY THAT SHE
  • 00:17:45.060 --> 00:17:47.120
  • DID THEM.
  • 00:17:47.120 --> 00:17:48.290
  • WELL, I WASN'T DOIN' ANYTHING
  • 00:17:48.290 --> 00:17:51.010
  • ELSE, AND SO I LET THE DEVIL
  • 00:17:51.290 --> 00:17:54.290
  • TELL ME THAT I JUST NEEDED TO
  • 00:17:54.290 --> 00:17:55.210
  • SETTLE DOWN AND BE A "REGULAR
  • 00:17:55.210 --> 00:17:57.160
  • WOMAN," WHATEVER THAT IS, BUT,
  • 00:17:57.160 --> 00:17:58.290
  • YOU KNOW, MOST WOMEN THINK, IF
  • 00:17:58.290 --> 00:17:59.240
  • YOU'RE THE LEAST BIT OUT THERE
  • 00:17:59.240 --> 00:18:01.050
  • LIKE I AM, YOU THINK THAT YOU
  • 00:18:01.050 --> 00:18:02.060
  • JUST NEED TO SETTLE DOWN AND
  • 00:18:02.060 --> 00:18:03.260
  • MIND YOUR PLACE AND JUST BE A
  • 00:18:03.260 --> 00:18:06.060
  • NICE LITTLE WIFE AND BE A
  • 00:18:06.060 --> 00:18:07.160
  • REGULAR WOMAN, SO I THOUGHT PART
  • 00:18:07.160 --> 00:18:10.030
  • OF THIS BEIN' A REGULAR WOMAN
  • 00:18:10.030 --> 00:18:11.100
  • WAS SEWING AND BAKING AND
  • 00:18:11.100 --> 00:18:14.050
  • GARDENING, AND ALL THAT STUFF,
  • 00:18:14.050 --> 00:18:15.260
  • SO I GOT DAVE TO DIG UP THIS
  • 00:18:15.260 --> 00:18:18.030
  • PLOT OF GROUND, AND WE PLANTED
  • 00:18:18.030 --> 00:18:19.110
  • TOMATO SEEDS, TOMATO PLANTS, OR
  • 00:18:19.110 --> 00:18:21.160
  • WHATEVER THEY ARE, AND WHEN THE
  • 00:18:22.280 --> 00:18:25.280
  • TOMATOES CAME IN, THEY WERE
  • 00:18:25.280 --> 00:18:27.290
  • STARTIN' TO LOOK REALLY PRETTY.
  • 00:18:27.290 --> 00:18:30.240
  • THEY LOOKED REALLY GOOD,
  • 00:18:30.240 --> 00:18:31.120
  • AND SO WE HAD OUR CANNING JARS,
  • 00:18:31.120 --> 00:18:32.050
  • AND HER AND I HAD OUR PLAN,
  • 00:18:32.050 --> 00:18:33.090
  • AND WE WERE GONNA CAN
  • 00:18:33.090 --> 00:18:35.070
  • THESE TOMATOES,
  • 00:18:35.070 --> 00:18:35.280
  • WHICH, BY THE WAY,
  • 00:18:35.280 --> 00:18:37.000
  • IS A NIGHTMARE OF WORK.
  • 00:18:37.000 --> 00:18:38.000
  • I MEAN, WHO WOULD NOT WANNA JUST
  • 00:18:38.000 --> 00:18:39.080
  • GO BUY SOME CANNED TOMATOES?
  • 00:18:39.080 --> 00:18:41.110
  • I MEAN, BACK THEN, THEY WERE
  • 00:18:41.110 --> 00:18:42.090
  • THREE CANS FOR A DOLLAR, AND I'M
  • 00:18:42.090 --> 00:18:43.210
  • OUT THERE SWEATIN', PULLIN'
  • 00:18:43.210 --> 00:18:45.160
  • WEEDS, AND HATING EVERY MINUTE
  • 00:18:45.160 --> 00:18:47.100
  • OF IT-- AND SO THIS SWARM OF
  • 00:18:47.100 --> 00:18:49.070
  • BLACK BUGS OF SOME KIND CAME
  • 00:18:49.070 --> 00:18:51.220
  • THROUGH AND ATE BIG HOLES IN MY
  • 00:18:51.260 --> 00:18:54.260
  • TOMATOES THE NIGHT BEFORE WE
  • 00:18:54.260 --> 00:18:56.130
  • WERE GOING TO HARVEST 'EM.
  • 00:18:56.130 --> 00:18:59.010
  • WELL, SHE LIVED JUST RIGHT NEXT
  • 00:18:59.010 --> 00:19:00.140
  • DOOR TO ME, AND, I MEAN, "NEXT
  • 00:19:00.140 --> 00:19:02.100
  • DOOR," THEN, WAS, YOU KNOW, YOU
  • 00:19:02.100 --> 00:19:03.240
  • HAD ABOUT THIS MUCH PROPERTY
  • 00:19:03.240 --> 00:19:04.240
  • BETWEEN YOU, SO I WAS SURE THAT
  • 00:19:04.240 --> 00:19:05.160
  • THE BUGS ATE HER TOMATOES TOO,
  • 00:19:06.010 --> 00:19:09.010
  • SO I CALLED HER, AND I SAID,
  • 00:19:09.010 --> 00:19:10.170
  • "OH, MY GOSH, OUR TOMATOES ARE
  • 00:19:10.170 --> 00:19:11.280
  • RUINED.
  • 00:19:11.280 --> 00:19:13.040
  • THESE BUGS ATE BIG HOLES IN
  • 00:19:13.040 --> 00:19:14.100
  • 'EM."
  • 00:19:14.100 --> 00:19:15.120
  • SO SHE, QUICK, RAN OUTSIDE
  • 00:19:15.120 --> 00:19:16.270
  • AND LOOKED.
  • 00:19:16.270 --> 00:19:17.110
  • SHE CALLED ME BACK, AND SHE
  • 00:19:17.110 --> 00:19:18.100
  • SAID, "MY TOMATOES ARE FINE."
  • 00:19:18.100 --> 00:19:19.190
  • AND I GOT SO AGGRAVATED BECAUSE
  • 00:19:19.190 --> 00:19:22.090
  • I HAD PRAYED OVER MY TOMATOES.
  • 00:19:22.090 --> 00:19:23.280
  • I MEAN, I WAS SPIRITUAL ABOUT
  • 00:19:23.280 --> 00:19:25.290
  • THOSE TOMATOES, AND I SAID TO
  • 00:19:25.290 --> 00:19:27.240
  • GOD, "WELL, WHY DID THE BUGS GET
  • 00:19:29.130 --> 00:19:32.130
  • MY TOMATOES, AND HERS ARE FINE?"
  • 00:19:32.170 --> 00:19:35.170
  • HE SAID, "BECAUSE I NEVER TOLD
  • 00:19:35.170 --> 00:19:36.080
  • YOU TO GROW TOMATOES."
  • 00:19:36.080 --> 00:19:37.080
  • - MATT: WOW.
  • 00:19:37.080 --> 00:19:37.260
  • - JOYCE: "I'M NOT CALLING YOU
  • 00:19:37.260 --> 00:19:39.250
  • TO GROW TOMATOES."
  • 00:19:39.250 --> 00:19:40.230
  • AND, SO, AND THE SAME
  • 00:19:40.230 --> 00:19:43.090
  • THING WITH THE SEWING.
  • 00:19:43.090 --> 00:19:44.030
  • I MEAN, I TRIED TO SEW.
  • 00:19:44.030 --> 00:19:45.060
  • THERE WAS SOMETHIN' BACK THEN
  • 00:19:45.060 --> 00:19:46.160
  • CALLED "STRETCH & SEW," AND YOU
  • 00:19:46.160 --> 00:19:47.200
  • BOUGHT THIS STRETCHY MATERIAL,
  • 00:19:47.200 --> 00:19:49.290
  • AND YOU-- I MEAN, YOU CAN JUST
  • 00:19:49.290 --> 00:19:51.160
  • MAKE ALL KINDS OF THINGS, AND SO
  • 00:19:51.160 --> 00:19:52.090
  • I MADE DAVE A PAIR OF SHORTS,
  • 00:19:52.090 --> 00:19:55.080
  • AND THE POCKETS WERE LONGER THAN
  • 00:19:55.080 --> 00:19:57.150
  • THE BOTTOM OF THE SHORTS, AND I
  • 00:19:57.150 --> 00:19:58.270
  • HEMMED UP ONE OF THE SLEEVES
  • 00:20:00.190 --> 00:20:03.190
  • AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU
  • 00:20:06.160 --> 00:20:07.130
  • MAKE MISTAKES, YOU GOTTA SIT
  • 00:20:07.130 --> 00:20:08.140
  • WITH THIS LITTLE PICKER THING
  • 00:20:08.140 --> 00:20:09.050
  • AND TRY TO PICK THE STITCHES
  • 00:20:09.050 --> 00:20:10.200
  • OUT--
  • 00:20:10.200 --> 00:20:11.030
  • - LAURIE: THE RIPPER.
  • 00:20:11.030 --> 00:20:11.200
  • - JOYCE: WITHOUT TEARIN' UP THE
  • 00:20:11.200 --> 00:20:12.180
  • MATERIAL,
  • 00:20:12.180 --> 00:20:13.030
  • AND I HATED IT, BUT I WAS DOIN'
  • 00:20:13.030 --> 00:20:14.140
  • ALL THAT TO BE A
  • 00:20:14.140 --> 00:20:15.070
  • AND SO, DURING THAT PERIOD OF
  • 00:20:17.150 --> 00:20:20.060
  • TIME, GOD TAUGHT ME,
  • 00:20:20.060 --> 00:20:21.110
  • "YOU HAVE TO BE WHO YOU ARE.
  • 00:20:21.110 --> 00:20:23.280
  • I CANNOT DO ANYTHING WITH YOU IF
  • 00:20:23.280 --> 00:20:26.280
  • YOU'RE GOING TO TRY TO BE
  • 00:20:26.280 --> 00:20:27.190
  • SOMEBODY ELSE."
  • 00:20:27.190 --> 00:20:29.150
  • - MATT: AND "BEING YOU" IS PART
  • 00:20:29.150 --> 00:20:30.200
  • OF THE EQUATION OF BEING
  • 00:20:30.200 --> 00:20:32.060
  • CONFIDENT.
  • 00:20:32.060 --> 00:20:33.110
  • - JOYCE: YES, YOU HAVE TO BE
  • 00:20:33.110 --> 00:20:34.020
  • CONFIDENT ENOUGH TO BE AN
  • 00:20:34.020 --> 00:20:35.040
  • INDIVIDUAL.
  • 00:20:35.040 --> 00:20:36.070
  • - LAURIE: AND YOU CAN'T DO
  • 00:20:36.070 --> 00:20:37.000
  • EVERYTHING.
  • 00:20:37.000 --> 00:20:38.010
  • - JOYCE: NO, YOU CAN'T DO
  • 00:20:38.010 --> 00:20:39.080
  • EVERYTHING.
  • 00:20:39.080 --> 00:20:39.230
  • - LAURIE: SEE, YOU CAN'T DO
  • 00:20:39.230 --> 00:20:41.210
  • WHAT YOU DO IN MINISTRY
  • 00:20:41.210 --> 00:20:43.080
  • AND BE A GARDENER AND BE A
  • 00:20:43.080 --> 00:20:43.280
  • COOK AND BE A--
  • 00:20:43.280 --> 00:20:45.000
  • THAT'S WHAT-- AND I ADMIRE
  • 00:20:45.000 --> 00:20:47.070
  • ALL OF THAT, AND I ADMIRE WOMEN
  • 00:20:47.070 --> 00:20:48.000
  • WHO ARE THAT,
  • 00:20:48.000 --> 00:20:49.090
  • - JOYCE: YEAH, I THINK IT'S
  • 00:20:49.090 --> 00:20:50.000
  • WONDERFUL.
  • 00:20:50.000 --> 00:20:50.160
  • - LAURIE: AND I WANNA BE
  • 00:20:50.160 --> 00:20:51.090
  • THAT, BUT YOU JUST-- GOD'S NOT
  • 00:20:51.090 --> 00:20:52.010
  • CALLED ME IN THIS SEASON TO BE
  • 00:20:52.010 --> 00:20:53.280
  • THAT.
  • 00:20:53.280 --> 00:20:54.250
  • - JOYCE: YOU CAN COOK FOR ME
  • 00:20:54.250 --> 00:20:55.160
  • ANYTIME.
  • 00:20:55.160 --> 00:20:56.050
  • - LAURIE: YEAH.
  • 00:20:56.050 --> 00:20:56.200
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:20:56.200 --> 00:20:57.090
  • - JOYCE: YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST
  • 00:20:57.090 --> 00:20:58.070
  • NOT-- I MEAN, LIKE, DARLENE
  • 00:20:58.070 --> 00:20:59.100
  • ZSCHECH SAID TO ME ONE TIME--
  • 00:20:59.100 --> 00:21:00.200
  • - LAURIE: SO I KEEP TELLIN'
  • 00:21:00.200 --> 00:21:01.180
  • HIM-- RIGHT?
  • 00:21:01.180 --> 00:21:02.040
  • - MATT: EXACTLY.
  • 00:21:02.040 --> 00:21:03.060
  • - JOYCE: DARLENE ZSCHECH,
  • 00:21:03.060 --> 00:21:04.110
  • BEAUTIFUL DARLENE, SHE LOVES TO
  • 00:21:04.110 --> 00:21:05.210
  • COOK, AND SHE SAID TO ME ONE
  • 00:21:05.210 --> 00:21:07.060
  • TIME, "DON'T YOU REALLY ENJOY
  • 00:21:07.060 --> 00:21:08.190
  • COOKIN' WHEN YOU'RE HOME?"
  • 00:21:08.190 --> 00:21:10.080
  • AND I SAID, "NO."
  • 00:21:10.080 --> 00:21:11.040
  • AND SHE'S LIKE, "NO?
  • 00:21:11.040 --> 00:21:13.090
  • I LOVE IT."
  • 00:21:13.090 --> 00:21:13.270
  • I SAID, "NO, IT'S NOT
  • 00:21:13.270 --> 00:21:15.090
  • WORTH IT.
  • 00:21:15.090 --> 00:21:16.200
  • YOU WORK ALL DAY, AND IT TAKES
  • 00:21:16.200 --> 00:21:18.050
  • 'EM TEN MINUTES TO EAT IT, AND
  • 00:21:18.050 --> 00:21:18.260
  • THEN YOU'RE LEFT WITH A MESS.
  • 00:21:18.260 --> 00:21:19.170
  • WHO WANTS TO DO THAT?"
  • 00:21:19.170 --> 00:21:20.050
  • - LAURIE: I LOVE YOU.
  • 00:21:20.050 --> 00:21:20.220
  • - JOYCE: HUH?
  • 00:21:20.220 --> 00:21:21.060
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:21:21.060 --> 00:21:21.280
  • - LAURIE: I LOVE YOU.
  • 00:21:21.280 --> 00:21:22.160
  • - JOYCE: I DON'T WANNA DO THAT.
  • 00:21:22.160 --> 00:21:23.110
  • - MATT: OH, MY GOSH, I COULD
  • 00:21:23.110 --> 00:21:26.090
  • WEIGH IN HERE, BUT I'M NOT GOING
  • 00:21:26.090 --> 00:21:28.260
  • TO, OKAY?
  • 00:21:28.260 --> 00:21:29.120
  • - LAURIE: IF YOU-- IT'D
  • 00:21:29.120 --> 00:21:31.090
  • PROBABLY BE BEST FOR YOU NOT TO.
  • 00:21:31.090 --> 00:21:32.010
  • - MATT: BUT SHE JUST DOESN'T
  • 00:21:32.010 --> 00:21:32.230
  • ENJOY COOKING, AND YOU ACTUALLY
  • 00:21:32.230 --> 00:21:34.040
  • DON'T EVEN HAVE A PROBLEM WITH
  • 00:21:34.040 --> 00:21:35.070
  • THAT.
  • 00:21:35.070 --> 00:21:35.240
  • YOU'RE YOURSELF ABOUT THAT, YOU
  • 00:21:35.240 --> 00:21:37.010
  • KNOW?
  • 00:21:37.010 --> 00:21:37.270
  • - LAURIE: I'M CONFIDENT.
  • 00:21:37.270 --> 00:21:40.190
  • - MATT: THERE'S CEREAL RIGHT
  • 00:21:40.190 --> 00:21:41.230
  • THERE IN THAT CABINET, AND THE
  • 00:21:41.230 --> 00:21:43.150
  • MILK'S IN THE REFRIGERATOR, YOU
  • 00:21:43.150 --> 00:21:44.070
  • KNOW?
  • 00:21:44.070 --> 00:21:46.270
  • - JOYCE: YEAH, WE COMPARE
  • 00:21:46.270 --> 00:21:47.160
  • OURSELVES TO PEOPLE SPIRITUALLY.
  • 00:21:47.160 --> 00:21:48.080
  • I REMEMBER WHEN THIS WOMAN CAME
  • 00:21:48.080 --> 00:21:49.140
  • TO OUR CHURCH THAT WAS JUST
  • 00:21:49.140 --> 00:21:50.230
  • AWESOME, ANOINTED INTERCESSOR,
  • 00:21:50.230 --> 00:21:52.270
  • AND SHE'D TALK ABOUT HOW SHE
  • 00:21:52.270 --> 00:21:54.290
  • PRAYED FOUR HOURS EVERY MORNING,
  • 00:21:54.290 --> 00:21:56.280
  • AND BECAUSE SHE HAD SUCH A
  • 00:21:56.280 --> 00:21:58.250
  • STRONG ANOINTING, I THOUGHT,
  • 00:21:58.250 --> 00:22:00.050
  • "WELL, IF I DID WHAT SHE DID,
  • 00:22:00.050 --> 00:22:01.190
  • THEN I WOULD HAVE WHAT SHE HAD,"
  • 00:22:01.190 --> 00:22:02.190
  • AND THAT'S AN IMPORTANT POINT
  • 00:22:02.190 --> 00:22:05.180
  • FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE
  • 00:22:05.180 --> 00:22:07.170
  • WATCHING TO THINK ABOUT: WE
  • 00:22:07.170 --> 00:22:10.010
  • THINK, IF WE DO WHAT SOMEBODY
  • 00:22:10.010 --> 00:22:12.080
  • ELSE DOES, WE'LL HAVE WHAT THEY
  • 00:22:12.150 --> 00:22:15.150
  • HAVE, AND THAT'S NOT THE TRUTH.
  • 00:22:16.150 --> 00:22:19.150
  • IT DEPENDS ON WHAT GOD IS
  • 00:22:19.150 --> 00:22:20.040
  • ANOINTING YOU FOR, AND SO I
  • 00:22:20.040 --> 00:22:22.000
  • DECLARED TO EVERYBODY, MY
  • 00:22:24.000 --> 00:22:27.000
  • FAMILY, "I'M GOING TO PRAY FOUR
  • 00:22:27.000 --> 00:22:28.100
  • HOURS EVERY DAY.
  • 00:22:28.100 --> 00:22:30.050
  • THIS IS MY PRAYER SPOT.
  • 00:22:30.050 --> 00:22:32.000
  • YOU WILL NOT SEE ME UNTIL
  • 00:22:32.000 --> 00:22:34.150
  • SUCH-AND-SUCH A TIME."
  • 00:22:34.150 --> 00:22:36.010
  • SO I WENT IN THERE WITH
  • 00:22:36.010 --> 00:22:37.010
  • MY COFFEE OR WHATEVER
  • 00:22:37.010 --> 00:22:39.160
  • I WAS DRINKIN', AND MY CLOCK,
  • 00:22:39.160 --> 00:22:41.020
  • AND, I MEAN, AFTER FIVE
  • 00:22:41.020 --> 00:22:42.040
  • MINUTES, I'D SAID EVERYTHING
  • 00:22:42.040 --> 00:22:43.220
  • THAT I COULD THINK OF AND HAD
  • 00:22:43.220 --> 00:22:45.050
  • NOTHING ELSE TO SAY AND ENDED UP
  • 00:22:45.050 --> 00:22:46.110
  • TAKIN' A NAP, BUT YOU DON'T
  • 00:22:46.110 --> 00:22:47.180
  • THINK I CAME OUT THERE AND TOLD
  • 00:22:47.180 --> 00:22:48.100
  • ANYBODY THAT.
  • 00:22:48.100 --> 00:22:49.140
  • SO WE TRY TO MAKE OURSELVES DO
  • 00:22:49.140 --> 00:22:51.240
  • THINGS AND--
  • 00:22:51.240 --> 00:22:52.250
  • - LAURIE: THAT'S FOUR HOURS OF
  • 00:22:52.250 --> 00:22:55.150
  • SLEEP.
  • 00:22:55.150 --> 00:22:56.110
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:22:56.110 --> 00:22:57.040
  • - JOYCE: GOD WON'T HELP US, YOU
  • 00:22:57.040 --> 00:22:58.170
  • KNOW, IF WE HEAR THAT
  • 00:22:58.170 --> 00:22:59.090
  • SO-AND-SO'S READING THE BIBLE
  • 00:22:59.090 --> 00:23:00.160
  • THROUGH IN A YEAR.
  • 00:23:00.160 --> 00:23:01.080
  • WE THINK WE'VE GOTTA READ THE
  • 00:23:01.080 --> 00:23:02.020
  • BIBLE THROUGH IN A YEAR, AND IF
  • 00:23:02.020 --> 00:23:02.290
  • YOU JUST CAN HAVE THE FREEDOM TO
  • 00:23:02.290 --> 00:23:05.190
  • BE YOURSELF, I MEAN, THAT'S
  • 00:23:06.080 --> 00:23:09.080
  • REALLY-- EVEN THOUGH JESUS PUT
  • 00:23:09.080 --> 00:23:11.190
  • AN END TO THE OLD TESTAMENT LAW,
  • 00:23:11.190 --> 00:23:13.160
  • WE MAKE PLENTY OF LAWS FOR
  • 00:23:13.160 --> 00:23:16.020
  • OURSELF, AND IT JUST TAKES THE
  • 00:23:16.020 --> 00:23:18.200
  • JOY OUT OF EVERYTHING.
  • 00:23:18.200 --> 00:23:20.250
  • "CONFIDENT WOMAN DEVOTIONAL" IS
  • 00:23:23.270 --> 00:23:24.190
  • WHAT WE ARE UNPACKING, AND, SO
  • 00:23:24.190 --> 00:23:25.100
  • FAR, THE TAKEAWAY IS ULTIMATELY
  • 00:23:25.100 --> 00:23:27.290
  • THAT, IF YOU CAN GET GOOD WITH
  • 00:23:27.290 --> 00:23:30.130
  • WHO YOU ARE AND WHAT YOU'RE
  • 00:23:31.260 --> 00:23:34.260
  • DOING, NOT TRY TO BE ANOTHER
  • 00:23:34.260 --> 00:23:36.000
  • PERSON-- YOU KNOW, I HAD THAT
  • 00:23:36.000 --> 00:23:37.230
  • CONVERSATION WITH A PASTOR ONE
  • 00:23:37.230 --> 00:23:38.270
  • TIME.
  • 00:23:38.270 --> 00:23:39.110
  • I LITERALLY SAID THE WORDS INTO
  • 00:23:39.110 --> 00:23:40.260
  • HIS FACE, "WHY ARE YOU TRYING TO
  • 00:23:40.260 --> 00:23:42.040
  • I HAD THAT CONVERSATION.
  • 00:23:44.220 --> 00:23:47.220
  • I MEAN, SITTIN' IN A DRIVEWAY IN
  • 00:23:47.220 --> 00:23:48.140
  • A CAR COULD TAKE YOU RIGHT TO
  • 00:23:48.140 --> 00:23:49.050
  • THE PLACE.
  • 00:23:49.050 --> 00:23:49.160
  • - LAURIE: MATT HAS NO PROBLEM
  • 00:23:49.160 --> 00:23:50.070
  • WITH CONFIDENCE.
  • 00:23:50.070 --> 00:23:50.210
  • - MATT: AND I JUST BASICALLY
  • 00:23:50.210 --> 00:23:51.240
  • DIDN'T-- YOU KNOW, I WASN'T
  • 00:23:51.240 --> 00:23:54.120
  • GONNA BE HIM, AND, YOU KNOW, I
  • 00:23:55.240 --> 00:23:58.240
  • JUST FELT LIKE HE WAS TRYIN' TO
  • 00:23:58.240 --> 00:24:00.070
  • MAKE ME HIM, AND I JUST, YOU
  • 00:24:00.070 --> 00:24:01.070
  • KNOW, PUT AN END TO IT.
  • 00:24:01.070 --> 00:24:02.190
  • - JOYCE: WELL, SEE, THAT'S THE
  • 00:24:02.190 --> 00:24:03.110
  • OTHER SIDE OF THIS.
  • 00:24:03.110 --> 00:24:04.100
  • I MEAN, THERE'S-- WE CAN BE
  • 00:24:04.100 --> 00:24:05.160
  • GUILTY OF NOT HAVING THE
  • 00:24:05.160 --> 00:24:08.130
  • CONFIDENCE THAT GOD WANTS US TO
  • 00:24:08.130 --> 00:24:11.120
  • HAVE, BUT THEN OTHER PEOPLE,
  • 00:24:11.120 --> 00:24:12.290
  • IT'S WRONG FOR PEOPLE TO NOT
  • 00:24:13.110 --> 00:24:16.110
  • HELP YOU BE WHO YOU'RE SUPPOSED
  • 00:24:16.210 --> 00:24:19.210
  • TO BE.
  • 00:24:19.210 --> 00:24:20.200
  • WHAT DOES THE BIBLE SAY ABOUT
  • 00:24:20.200 --> 00:24:22.000
  • "TRAIN UP A CHILD IN THE WAY
  • 00:24:22.000 --> 00:24:23.070
  • THEY SHOULD GO--" NOT IN THE WAY
  • 00:24:23.070 --> 00:24:24.220
  • YOU WANT 'EM TO GO.
  • 00:24:24.220 --> 00:24:26.290
  • OUR JOB IS TO RECOGNIZE THE
  • 00:24:26.290 --> 00:24:29.200
  • GIFTS IN OUR CHILDREN AND HELP
  • 00:24:29.200 --> 00:24:30.250
  • THEM BE WHAT GOD WANTS THEM TO
  • 00:24:30.250 --> 00:24:32.220
  • BE, AND IF WE'RE A TRUE FRIEND,
  • 00:24:32.220 --> 00:24:34.180
  • WE'RE GONNA HELP PEOPLE BE ALL
  • 00:24:34.230 --> 00:24:37.230
  • THAT THEY CAN BE.
  • 00:24:37.230 --> 00:24:39.210
  • AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS
  • 00:24:39.210 --> 00:24:40.240
  • THAT I ADMIRE SO MUCH ABOUT MY
  • 00:24:40.240 --> 00:24:41.240
  • HUSBAND, IS DAVE SET ME FREE TO
  • 00:24:42.060 --> 00:24:45.060
  • DO WHAT GOD HAD CALLED ME TO DO,
  • 00:24:45.060 --> 00:24:47.150
  • AND HE'S NOT THE LEAST BIT
  • 00:24:47.280 --> 00:24:50.280
  • BELITTLED BY IT, NOR DOES HE
  • 00:24:50.280 --> 00:24:52.230
  • FEEL LIKE ANY LESS OF A MAN
  • 00:24:52.230 --> 00:24:54.020
  • BECAUSE I'M THE ONE THAT'S ON
  • 00:24:54.020 --> 00:24:56.040
  • THE PLATFORM, AND HE'S MORE "A
  • 00:24:56.040 --> 00:24:57.240
  • LITTLE BIT BEHIND THE SCENES."
  • 00:24:57.240 --> 00:24:59.040
  • - MATT: WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
  • 00:24:59.040 --> 00:24:59.270
  • "THE CONFIDENT WOMAN
  • 00:24:59.270 --> 00:25:01.170
  • DEVOTIONAL," BUT EVERYONE NEEDS
  • 00:25:01.170 --> 00:25:03.040
  • CONFIDENCE.
  • 00:25:03.040 --> 00:25:03.250
  • AS WE'RE SITTING HERE, SO FAR,
  • 00:25:03.250 --> 00:25:04.190
  • WE'RE TALKING ABOUT "BE WHO YOU
  • 00:25:04.190 --> 00:25:07.170
  • ARE," AND THIS FORMAT OF DOING
  • 00:25:07.170 --> 00:25:09.110
  • "PRAISE" AND UNPACKING THIS FOR
  • 00:25:09.110 --> 00:25:11.070
  • A WHOLE HOUR WITH JOYCE MEYER,
  • 00:25:11.070 --> 00:25:13.060
  • MAKES ME THINK OF THE OLD DAYS,
  • 00:25:13.060 --> 00:25:14.190
  • AND I'M THINKIN' OF MY DAD
  • 00:25:14.190 --> 00:25:15.190
  • SITTING HERE, AND HE LOVED THIS
  • 00:25:15.190 --> 00:25:17.090
  • PART OF THE COUNTRY AS OUR THIRD
  • 00:25:17.090 --> 00:25:18.110
  • TV STATION WAS IN THIS AREA OF
  • 00:25:18.110 --> 00:25:20.020
  • THE COUNTRY-- AND THAT'S THE
  • 00:25:20.020 --> 00:25:22.060
  • ATLANTIC OCEAN OUT HERE THROUGH
  • 00:25:22.060 --> 00:25:23.150
  • THE WINDOW-- AND HE'D TELL THE
  • 00:25:23.150 --> 00:25:25.200
  • STORY: HE'D SAY, "THE OLD FARMER
  • 00:25:25.200 --> 00:25:26.260
  • LOOKED UP IN THE SKY, AND IN THE
  • 00:25:26.260 --> 00:25:29.150
  • SKY--" YOU KNOW, THERE'S CLOUDS
  • 00:25:31.130 --> 00:25:34.130
  • OUT HERE-- "IN THE SKY, THE
  • 00:25:34.130 --> 00:25:36.130
  • CLOUDS FORMED A PERFECT 'PC,'"
  • 00:25:36.250 --> 00:25:39.250
  • AND HE SAID, "THANK YOU, JESUS.
  • 00:25:39.250 --> 00:25:41.070
  • THAT'S MY WORD, 'PREACH CHRIST.'
  • 00:25:41.070 --> 00:25:42.160
  • AND IN A MINUTE, THE LORD, KIND
  • 00:25:42.230 --> 00:25:45.230
  • OF, OUT FROM HEAVEN, SAID, NO,
  • 00:25:45.230 --> 00:25:47.200
  • NO, NO, NO, THAT'S NOT
  • 00:25:47.200 --> 00:25:48.150
  • "PREACH CHRIST."
  • 00:25:48.150 --> 00:25:49.160
  • THAT'S "PLOW CORN,"
  • 00:25:49.160 --> 00:25:50.090
  • OKAY?'"
  • 00:25:50.090 --> 00:25:50.200
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:25:50.200 --> 00:25:51.010
  • - JOYCE: "PLOW CORN."
  • 00:25:51.010 --> 00:25:53.150
  • - MATT: SO, ULTIMATELY, WHAT,
  • 00:25:53.150 --> 00:25:54.060
  • SO FAR, WE'VE TAKEN AWAY FROM
  • 00:25:54.060 --> 00:25:56.120
  • "CONFIDENCE" IS TO BE WHO YOU
  • 00:25:56.120 --> 00:25:57.030
  • ARE, OKAY?
  • 00:25:57.030 --> 00:25:58.050
  • AND IS THAT HARDER FOR WOMEN?
  • 00:25:59.130 --> 00:26:02.150
  • - JOYCE: I THINK IT IS.
  • 00:26:02.150 --> 00:26:05.100
  • I THINK THAT WOMEN HAVE A
  • 00:26:05.100 --> 00:26:06.210
  • TENDENCY TO COMPARE THEMSELVES
  • 00:26:06.210 --> 00:26:08.170
  • WITH OTHER WOMEN, ALL THE WAY
  • 00:26:08.170 --> 00:26:10.260
  • FROM THE WAY THEY LOOK,
  • 00:26:10.260 --> 00:26:12.050
  • ESPECIALLY, A LOT, THE WAY THEY
  • 00:26:12.050 --> 00:26:13.120
  • LOOK: "I WISH I HAD YOUR BODY,"
  • 00:26:13.120 --> 00:26:14.100
  • "I WISH I HAD YOUR HAIR,"
  • 00:26:14.100 --> 00:26:16.100
  • AND I THINK IT'S AN INSULT
  • 00:26:16.130 --> 00:26:19.130
  • TO GOD TO KEEP WISHING THAT YOU
  • 00:26:19.130 --> 00:26:20.080
  • HAVE WHAT HE DIDN'T GIVE YOU
  • 00:26:21.140 --> 00:26:24.140
  • BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS IS YOU MISS
  • 00:26:25.020 --> 00:26:28.020
  • THEN WHAT HE HAS GIVEN YOU, AND
  • 00:26:28.020 --> 00:26:29.280
  • I LOVE THE ANALOGY ABOUT ALL THE
  • 00:26:32.130 --> 00:26:35.130
  • DIFFERENT GIFTS IN ROMANS 12,
  • 00:26:35.130 --> 00:26:37.020
  • AND IT TALKS ABOUT, YOU KNOW,
  • 00:26:37.060 --> 00:26:40.060
  • ONE PERSON HAS THIS, ONE PERSON
  • 00:26:40.060 --> 00:26:40.280
  • HAS THAT, ONE PERSON HAS
  • 00:26:40.280 --> 00:26:42.020
  • SOMETHIN' ELSE, AND, YOU KNOW,
  • 00:26:42.170 --> 00:26:45.170
  • THE DIFFERENT PARTS OF YOUR BODY
  • 00:26:45.170 --> 00:26:46.280
  • ARE NOT JEALOUS OF EACH OTHER,
  • 00:26:46.280 --> 00:26:49.010
  • BUT THERE'S AN EXAMPLE THAT I
  • 00:26:49.010 --> 00:26:51.050
  • USE WHERE IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW,
  • 00:26:51.050 --> 00:26:53.010
  • MY FINGERS GET TO WEAR RINGS,
  • 00:26:53.240 --> 00:26:56.240
  • BUT MY EYE ONLY GETS TO LOOK AT
  • 00:26:56.240 --> 00:26:59.180
  • 'EM, YOU KNOW, SO MY FEET GET TO
  • 00:26:59.250 --> 00:27:02.270
  • WEAR SHOES, BUT MY HANDS ONLY
  • 00:27:02.270 --> 00:27:04.040
  • GET TO HELP MY FEET PUT MY SHOES
  • 00:27:05.020 --> 00:27:08.020
  • ON.
  • 00:27:08.020 --> 00:27:10.130
  • AND SO THE BODY'S NOT FIGHTING
  • 00:27:10.130 --> 00:27:11.190
  • ABOUT THAT.
  • 00:27:11.190 --> 00:27:13.030
  • WHAT IF MY EYE SAID, "WELL, I'M
  • 00:27:13.030 --> 00:27:15.040
  • JUST TIRED OF JUST GETTIN' TO
  • 00:27:15.040 --> 00:27:17.200
  • LOOK AT A RING.
  • 00:27:18.010 --> 00:27:21.010
  • I WANT MY OWN RING.
  • 00:27:21.010 --> 00:27:21.180
  • I WANNA WEAR A RING."
  • 00:27:22.070 --> 00:27:25.070
  • AND SO WHAT IF GOD COMPLIED,
  • 00:27:25.070 --> 00:27:25.270
  • AND SO HE SAID,
  • 00:27:25.270 --> 00:27:28.130
  • "OKAY, HERE.
  • 00:27:28.130 --> 00:27:30.200
  • YOU CAN HAVE YOUR OWN RING."
  • 00:27:30.200 --> 00:27:32.150
  • WELL, NOW, THIS IS THE WAY WE
  • 00:27:32.150 --> 00:27:33.160
  • ARE AS PEOPLE.
  • 00:27:33.160 --> 00:27:34.190
  • SO THEN--
  • 00:27:34.190 --> 00:27:35.080
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:27:35.080 --> 00:27:35.270
  • - MATT: OH, THANK GOD.
  • 00:27:35.270 --> 00:27:36.220
  • - JOYCE: -- THIS MAKES ME
  • 00:27:36.220 --> 00:27:37.120
  • DYSFUNCTIONAL, AND I CAN'T DO
  • 00:27:37.120 --> 00:27:39.060
  • WHAT I'M SUPPOSED TO DO, WHICH
  • 00:27:39.060 --> 00:27:40.260
  • IS SEE, TO LEAD THE BODY AROUND,
  • 00:27:40.260 --> 00:27:43.090
  • BUT I GOT MY WAY.
  • 00:27:43.090 --> 00:27:44.080
  • I GOT MY RING.
  • 00:27:44.080 --> 00:27:46.070
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:27:46.070 --> 00:27:47.190
  • - MATT: THE YOUTUBE CLIP JUST
  • 00:27:47.190 --> 00:27:48.200
  • WENT OVER 400 MILLION VIEWS JUST
  • 00:27:48.200 --> 00:27:49.250
  • NOW, SO, I MEAN, THAT'S ALL--
  • 00:27:49.250 --> 00:27:51.160
  • - JOYCE: WELL, WHEN I'M WHERE I
  • 00:27:51.160 --> 00:27:52.090
  • CAN, I ALSO PUT MY SHOES ON MY
  • 00:27:52.090 --> 00:27:53.170
  • HANDS AND WEAR THEM AROUND WITH
  • 00:27:53.170 --> 00:27:55.040
  • MY RING ON MY EYE, AND THAT
  • 00:27:55.040 --> 00:27:56.170
  • MAKES QUITE AN ORDEAL, BUT, I
  • 00:27:56.170 --> 00:27:58.140
  • MEAN, SERIOUSLY, IF YOU THINK
  • 00:27:58.140 --> 00:28:01.040
  • ABOUT IT LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW,
  • 00:28:01.070 --> 00:28:04.070
  • WE'RE JEALOUS OF WHAT OTHER
  • 00:28:04.070 --> 00:28:06.030
  • PEOPLE HAVE THAT WE DON'T HAVE,
  • 00:28:06.180 --> 00:28:09.180
  • AND IN JAMES 4, IT SAYS, "YOU
  • 00:28:09.180 --> 00:28:11.190
  • HAVE NOT BECAUSE YOU ASK NOT,"
  • 00:28:11.190 --> 00:28:12.280
  • AND WHAT A FREEING SCRIPTURE.
  • 00:28:12.280 --> 00:28:14.160
  • YOU KNOW, HE STARTS OUT BY
  • 00:28:14.160 --> 00:28:15.290
  • SAYIN' WHAT CAUSES STRIFE.
  • 00:28:15.290 --> 00:28:17.110
  • WELL, YOU'RE JEALOUS, YOU WANT
  • 00:28:17.110 --> 00:28:19.160
  • WHAT OTHERS HAVE, AND YOU GO
  • 00:28:19.160 --> 00:28:21.110
  • UNFULFILLED BECAUSE YOU CAN'T
  • 00:28:21.110 --> 00:28:22.070
  • MAKE IT HAPPEN.
  • 00:28:22.070 --> 00:28:25.050
  • "YOU HAVE NOT BECAUSE YOU ASK
  • 00:28:25.050 --> 00:28:26.190
  • NOT."
  • 00:28:26.190 --> 00:28:27.280
  • SO THE KEY IS, IF YOU WANT
  • 00:28:27.280 --> 00:28:29.180
  • SOMETHIN', ASK GOD FOR IT.
  • 00:28:29.180 --> 00:28:31.050
  • IF HE DOESN'T GIVE IT TO YOU,
  • 00:28:31.050 --> 00:28:33.090
  • THEN BE HAPPY WITH WHAT HE'S
  • 00:28:33.180 --> 00:28:36.180
  • GIVEN YOU, AND DEVELOP WHAT YOU
  • 00:28:36.180 --> 00:28:37.100
  • - MATT: AND THE IDEA THAT
  • 00:28:40.150 --> 00:28:41.040
  • CONFIDENT DEVOTIONAL, WHICH IS,
  • 00:28:41.040 --> 00:28:42.290
  • OF COURSE, WHAT WE'RE UNPACKING
  • 00:28:42.290 --> 00:28:44.040
  • NOW, IS NOT SOME KIND OF THING--
  • 00:28:44.040 --> 00:28:46.290
  • YOU'RE NOT GONNA PRAY ONE PRAYER
  • 00:28:46.290 --> 00:28:48.210
  • AND GO FROM NOT CONFIDENT TO
  • 00:28:48.210 --> 00:28:50.170
  • CONFIDENT.
  • 00:28:50.170 --> 00:28:51.270
  • IT'S GONNA BE A PROCESS OF DAILY
  • 00:28:51.270 --> 00:28:53.080
  • WORK.
  • 00:28:53.230 --> 00:28:56.230
  • WE HAVE TO WORK FOR THESE
  • 00:28:56.230 --> 00:28:57.180
  • THINGS.
  • 00:28:57.180 --> 00:28:58.200
  • THE FINISHED WORK OF THE CROSS
  • 00:28:58.200 --> 00:29:00.290
  • IS DONE, BUT WE DON'T EVER
  • 00:29:00.290 --> 00:29:02.130
  • OFTENTIMES COLLECT THAT AND
  • 00:29:02.130 --> 00:29:05.030
  • BELIEVE IT AND START PUTTING IT
  • 00:29:05.030 --> 00:29:06.180
  • TO PRACTICE, SO THAT'S WHY THE
  • 00:29:06.180 --> 00:29:08.000
  • - JOYCE: AND HOW CAN YOU HAVE
  • 00:29:12.020 --> 00:29:13.060
  • 365 DEVOTIONALS ALL ON ONE
  • 00:29:13.060 --> 00:29:13.250
  • SUBJECT?
  • 00:29:13.250 --> 00:29:14.270
  • WELL, BECAUSE THERE'S AT LEAST
  • 00:29:14.270 --> 00:29:16.020
  • THAT MANY THINGS, IF NOT
  • 00:29:16.020 --> 00:29:17.240
  • THOUSANDS MORE, DIFFERENT AREAS
  • 00:29:19.180 --> 00:29:22.180
  • WHERE WE NEED TO BE CONFIDENT.
  • 00:29:22.180 --> 00:29:24.250
  • SO EACH DAY APPLIES TO SOMETHING
  • 00:29:24.250 --> 00:29:27.070
  • ELSE.
  • 00:29:27.070 --> 00:29:29.290
  • LIKE, FOR THIS, HAVE THE
  • 00:29:29.290 --> 00:29:31.050
  • CONFIDENCE THAT YOU CAN MAKE A
  • 00:29:31.050 --> 00:29:31.290
  • DIFFERENCE.
  • 00:29:32.040 --> 00:29:35.040
  • YOU KNOW, YOU CAN MAKE A
  • 00:29:35.040 --> 00:29:36.030
  • DIFFERENCE IN MAYBE MILLIONS OF
  • 00:29:36.030 --> 00:29:37.200
  • PEOPLE'S-- OF LIVES, BY MAKIN' A
  • 00:29:37.260 --> 00:29:40.260
  • DIFFERENCE IN ONE CHILD THAT YOU
  • 00:29:40.260 --> 00:29:41.180
  • HAVE.
  • 00:29:41.180 --> 00:29:44.120
  • AND BE CONFIDENT THAT YOU CAN
  • 00:29:44.120 --> 00:29:46.090
  • HEAR FROM GOD.
  • 00:29:46.090 --> 00:29:47.160
  • HOW MANY PEOPLE SAY, "I CAN'T
  • 00:29:47.160 --> 00:29:48.260
  • HEAR FROM GOD," "I CAN'T HEAR
  • 00:29:48.260 --> 00:29:50.130
  • FROM GOD"?
  • 00:29:50.130 --> 00:29:50.290
  • WELL, YOU PROBABLY ARE HEARING
  • 00:29:50.290 --> 00:29:51.230
  • FROM GOD AND JUST DON'T KNOW HOW
  • 00:29:51.230 --> 00:29:53.180
  • TO RECOGNIZE HIS VOICE.
  • 00:29:54.240 --> 00:29:57.240
  • AND, YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, ONE
  • 00:29:57.240 --> 00:29:58.210
  • OF THE WAYS THAT GOD SPEAKS IS
  • 00:29:58.210 --> 00:30:00.050
  • THROUGH DESIRES-- NOW, NOT
  • 00:30:00.050 --> 00:30:01.270
  • DESIRES OF THE FLESH, OBVIOUSLY,
  • 00:30:02.150 --> 00:30:05.150
  • NOT SINFUL THINGS, BUT IF YOU
  • 00:30:05.150 --> 00:30:07.250
  • KEEP HAVING A STRONG ENOUGH
  • 00:30:07.250 --> 00:30:09.230
  • DESIRE FOR SOMETHING, THERE'S A
  • 00:30:09.230 --> 00:30:11.280
  • GOOD POSSIBILITY THAT MAY BE
  • 00:30:11.280 --> 00:30:14.240
  • WHAT GOD WANTS YOU TO DO.
  • 00:30:14.240 --> 00:30:16.240
  • WHY DO WE THINK THAT GOD WOULD
  • 00:30:16.240 --> 00:30:19.010
  • CALL US TO DO SOMETHING SO WE'D
  • 00:30:19.190 --> 00:30:22.190
  • BE MISERABLE AT IT THE WHOLE
  • 00:30:22.190 --> 00:30:23.090
  • TIME WE DO IT?
  • 00:30:23.090 --> 00:30:23.250
  • I MEAN, I LIKE WHAT I DO.
  • 00:30:26.200 --> 00:30:29.200
  • YOU SHOULD LIKE WHAT YOU DO.
  • 00:30:29.200 --> 00:30:32.040
  • SOMETHING'S WRONG, AND A LOT OF
  • 00:30:32.040 --> 00:30:33.160
  • PEOPLE HATE THEIR JOB, AND IT'S
  • 00:30:33.160 --> 00:30:34.080
  • BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT DOING WHAT
  • 00:30:34.080 --> 00:30:34.290
  • THEY REALLY WANNA DO.
  • 00:30:34.290 --> 00:30:37.150
  • THEY'RE DOING WHAT PAYS THEM THE
  • 00:30:37.150 --> 00:30:38.080
  • BIGGEST PAYCHECK; AND A LITTLE
  • 00:30:38.080 --> 00:30:38.290
  • LESS MONEY AND MORE HAPPINESS
  • 00:30:38.290 --> 00:30:41.130
  • WOULD MAKE YOU A LOT BETTER
  • 00:30:43.090 --> 00:30:46.090
  • PERSON.
  • 00:30:46.090 --> 00:30:47.060
  • AND SO IT'S JUST THERE'S SO MANY
  • 00:30:47.060 --> 00:30:49.020
  • AREAS WHERE THERE'S-- YOU KNOW,
  • 00:30:49.020 --> 00:30:50.260
  • LIKE A LOT OF MOMS DON'T THINK
  • 00:30:50.260 --> 00:30:53.020
  • AND SO I'VE HAD PEOPLE-- "I'M
  • 00:30:54.290 --> 00:30:56.100
  • JUST AFRAID," YOU KNOW, WHEN
  • 00:30:56.100 --> 00:30:57.190
  • THEY'RE PREGNANT, AND "I'M
  • 00:30:57.190 --> 00:30:59.040
  • AFRAID I'M NOT GONNA BE A GOOD
  • 00:30:59.040 --> 00:31:00.110
  • MOM" OR-- YOU KNOW, I MEAN, GOD
  • 00:31:00.110 --> 00:31:01.100
  • GIVES YOU THE ABILITY TO HANDLE
  • 00:31:03.120 --> 00:31:06.120
  • WHAT HE GIVES YOU, AND I HAD
  • 00:31:06.120 --> 00:31:07.090
  • AND I CERTAINLY WASN'T A PERFECT
  • 00:31:10.050 --> 00:31:11.020
  • MOTHER, BUT, YOU KNOW, I DID
  • 00:31:11.020 --> 00:31:11.220
  • OKAY.
  • 00:31:13.000 --> 00:31:16.000
  • MY KIDS ARE ALL SERVIN' GOD, AND
  • 00:31:16.000 --> 00:31:17.140
  • WE'RE ALL STILL GOOD FRIENDS,
  • 00:31:17.140 --> 00:31:18.210
  • AND, YOU KNOW, I COULDN'T HAVE
  • 00:31:18.210 --> 00:31:20.000
  • HAD ANY MORE TWO DYSFUNCTIONAL
  • 00:31:20.000 --> 00:31:21.190
  • PARENTS, AND SO, I MEAN, MY KIDS
  • 00:31:21.210 --> 00:31:24.210
  • HAVE SAID TO ME, MY ONE DAUGHTER
  • 00:31:24.210 --> 00:31:26.190
  • IN PARTICULAR, SHE SAID, "YOU
  • 00:31:26.190 --> 00:31:28.120
  • KNOW, IT'S AMAZING THE GOOD JOB
  • 00:31:28.120 --> 00:31:30.190
  • YOU DID RAISING US-- THE WAY YOU
  • 00:31:30.250 --> 00:31:33.250
  • WERE RAISED," AND SO WE DIDN'T
  • 00:31:33.250 --> 00:31:35.100
  • HAVE ALL THE CHILD-REARING
  • 00:31:35.100 --> 00:31:37.050
  • CLASSES AND CHILD-REARING BOOKS.
  • 00:31:37.270 --> 00:31:40.270
  • I MEAN, WE HAD ONE BOOK THAT WAS
  • 00:31:40.270 --> 00:31:41.250
  • WRITTEN BY A GUY NAMED
  • 00:31:41.250 --> 00:31:43.050
  • DR. SPOCK, AND IT TOLD YOU
  • 00:31:43.050 --> 00:31:45.010
  • EVERYTHING FROM HOW TO CHANGE A
  • 00:31:45.010 --> 00:31:46.070
  • DIAPER TO HOW TO CORRECT YOUR
  • 00:31:46.070 --> 00:31:47.130
  • CHILDREN, AND SO GOD WILL GIVE
  • 00:31:48.030 --> 00:31:51.030
  • YOU THE GRACE THAT YOU NEED TO
  • 00:31:51.030 --> 00:31:52.170
  • DO WHATEVER HE HAS CALLED YOU TO
  • 00:31:52.170 --> 00:31:54.010
  • DO.
  • 00:31:54.010 --> 00:31:56.030
  • AND I LOVE WHAT YOU EVEN SAID
  • 00:31:58.220 --> 00:31:59.130
  • THAT YOU EITHER LEARN WHEN
  • 00:31:59.130 --> 00:32:01.030
  • YOU'RE BEING RAISED BY YOUR
  • 00:32:01.290 --> 00:32:04.290
  • PARENTS-- AND LET'S SAY THEY
  • 00:32:04.290 --> 00:32:06.290
  • WERE BAD PARENTS.
  • 00:32:06.290 --> 00:32:08.230
  • THEY DIDN'T TREAT YOU RIGHT.
  • 00:32:08.230 --> 00:32:09.200
  • THEY DIDN'T TAKE GOOD CARE OF
  • 00:32:09.200 --> 00:32:10.150
  • INSTEAD OF SEEIN' THAT AND
  • 00:32:14.230 --> 00:32:15.130
  • THINKIN', "I'M GONNA BE JUST
  • 00:32:15.130 --> 00:32:16.030
  • LIKE THAT," SWITCH YOUR
  • 00:32:16.030 --> 00:32:16.210
  • PERSPECTIVE AROUND AND SAY, "I
  • 00:32:16.210 --> 00:32:18.130
  • KNOW WHAT NOT TO DO."
  • 00:32:18.130 --> 00:32:19.000
  • - JOYCE: THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.
  • 00:32:19.000 --> 00:32:19.290
  • - LAURIE: "AND NOW I KNOW HOW
  • 00:32:19.290 --> 00:32:21.080
  • TO BETTER PARENT BECAUSE THAT
  • 00:32:21.080 --> 00:32:23.050
  • HAPPENED TO ME.
  • 00:32:23.050 --> 00:32:25.090
  • DOESN'T MEAN I HAVE TO DO THAT.
  • 00:32:25.090 --> 00:32:26.260
  • IT'S BECAUSE I KNOW THAT I--
  • 00:32:26.260 --> 00:32:27.160
  • WHAT NOT TO DO NOW."
  • 00:32:27.160 --> 00:32:29.280
  • - JOYCE: EXACTLY.
  • 00:32:29.280 --> 00:32:30.150
  • YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE AREAS TO BE
  • 00:32:30.150 --> 00:32:31.280
  • VERY CONFIDENT IS THAT, WHEN
  • 00:32:31.280 --> 00:32:33.230
  • YOU'RE GOING THROUGH A REALLY
  • 00:32:33.230 --> 00:32:35.050
  • HARD TIME, WHICH PROBABLY MORE
  • 00:32:35.050 --> 00:32:36.150
  • PEOPLE WATCHING ARE THAN THOSE
  • 00:32:36.150 --> 00:32:39.130
  • THAT AREN'T, I MEAN, THERE'S
  • 00:32:39.210 --> 00:32:42.210
  • JUST-- LIFE IS FULL OF STUFF,
  • 00:32:42.210 --> 00:32:43.120
  • YOU KNOW, AND IT DOESN'T ALL
  • 00:32:43.120 --> 00:32:44.210
  • FEEL GOOD, BUT, MAN, WHEN YOU
  • 00:32:44.290 --> 00:32:47.290
  • GET TO THE POINT WHERE YOU CAN
  • 00:32:47.290 --> 00:32:49.240
  • BELIEVE WHEN YOU'RE GOIN'
  • 00:32:49.240 --> 00:32:51.000
  • THROUGH SOMETHING, "GOD WILL
  • 00:32:51.000 --> 00:32:52.080
  • WORK THIS OUT FOR MY GOOD."
  • 00:32:53.140 --> 00:32:56.140
  • AND I BELIEVE THAT SO STRONGLY
  • 00:32:56.140 --> 00:32:57.050
  • NOW.
  • 00:32:57.050 --> 00:32:58.120
  • WE'VE KIND OF ADOPTED THIS THING
  • 00:32:58.120 --> 00:32:59.250
  • THAT WE SAY, "THIS WILL END
  • 00:32:59.250 --> 00:33:00.200
  • WELL."
  • 00:33:00.200 --> 00:33:02.110
  • - MATT: BEAUTIFUL.
  • 00:33:02.110 --> 00:33:03.010
  • - JOYCE: THIS IS GONNA END
  • 00:33:03.010 --> 00:33:03.210
  • WELL.
  • 00:33:03.210 --> 00:33:04.140
  • IT'S NOT-- DOESN'T FEEL TOO
  • 00:33:04.140 --> 00:33:06.140
  • GREAT RIGHT NOW, AND I DON'T
  • 00:33:06.140 --> 00:33:07.220
  • UNDERSTAND IT, BUT THIS IS GONNA
  • 00:33:07.220 --> 00:33:08.170
  • END WELL.
  • 00:33:09.100 --> 00:33:12.100
  • - LAURIE: AND, KIND OF, THE
  • 00:33:12.100 --> 00:33:13.000
  • WORSE IT IS, THE BETTER IT'S
  • 00:33:13.000 --> 00:33:13.270
  • GONNA BE.
  • 00:33:13.270 --> 00:33:14.110
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:33:14.110 --> 00:33:14.290
  • - JOYCE: YEAH, SOMETIMES,
  • 00:33:14.290 --> 00:33:15.180
  • THAT'S TRUE, YOU KNOW?
  • 00:33:15.180 --> 00:33:16.050
  • - LAURIE: AND, BOY, IT'S GONNA
  • 00:33:16.050 --> 00:33:17.080
  • BE GOOD.
  • 00:33:17.080 --> 00:33:17.240
  • - JOYCE: TO TRY AND UNDERSTAND
  • 00:33:17.240 --> 00:33:19.020
  • EVERYTHING THAT'S GOIN' ON IN
  • 00:33:19.020 --> 00:33:20.150
  • YOUR LIFE IS JUST USELESS.
  • 00:33:20.150 --> 00:33:21.200
  • IT JUST WEARS YOU OUT.
  • 00:33:21.240 --> 00:33:24.240
  • I MEAN, GOD IS QUITE MYSTERIOUS,
  • 00:33:24.240 --> 00:33:26.090
  • AND THAT'S ONE THING, I THINK,
  • 00:33:26.090 --> 00:33:28.290
  • THAT ATTRACTS US TO GOD IS WE
  • 00:33:28.290 --> 00:33:30.100
  • ALL LOVE A LITTLE BIT OF
  • 00:33:30.100 --> 00:33:32.120
  • MYSTERY, AND WHEN YOU START
  • 00:33:32.120 --> 00:33:33.210
  • HANGIN' OUT WITH GOD, YOU'RE
  • 00:33:33.210 --> 00:33:35.090
  • GONNA HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF
  • 00:33:35.090 --> 00:33:36.120
  • MYSTERY IN YOUR LIFE.
  • 00:33:36.120 --> 00:33:37.170
  • - MATT: AT TBN, WE HAD A DEAR
  • 00:33:37.170 --> 00:33:38.280
  • OLD SAINT.
  • 00:33:39.010 --> 00:33:42.010
  • HIS NAME WAS PAUL BILLHEIMER.
  • 00:33:42.010 --> 00:33:44.110
  • WROTE SEVERAL BOOKS.
  • 00:33:44.110 --> 00:33:45.230
  • HE WAS VERY CLOSE TO MY MOM AND
  • 00:33:45.230 --> 00:33:47.170
  • DAD, ALTHOUGH HE WAS A
  • 00:33:47.170 --> 00:33:48.170
  • GENERATION OLDER THAN MY MOM AND
  • 00:33:48.170 --> 00:33:50.130
  • DAD, AND HE TAUGHT IN SOME OF
  • 00:33:51.150 --> 00:33:54.150
  • HIS BOOKS, LIKE "DESTINED FOR
  • 00:33:54.150 --> 00:33:56.020
  • THE THRONE," THAT LIFE CAN NEVER
  • 00:33:56.020 --> 00:33:58.090
  • MAKE SENSE UNTIL YOU ZOOM OUT
  • 00:33:58.180 --> 00:34:01.200
  • AND INCLUDE ETERNITY BECAUSE
  • 00:34:01.200 --> 00:34:02.190
  • SOMETIMES THINGS IN LIFE ARE
  • 00:34:03.130 --> 00:34:06.130
  • ON-THE-JOB TRAINING FOR
  • 00:34:06.130 --> 00:34:07.290
  • ETERNITY, SO THERE MAY BE
  • 00:34:07.290 --> 00:34:10.270
  • CERTAIN STRUGGLES THAT JUST DO
  • 00:34:10.270 --> 00:34:12.120
  • NOT MAKE SENSE, AND WE DON'T
  • 00:34:12.210 --> 00:34:15.210
  • HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THAT
  • 00:34:15.210 --> 00:34:17.050
  • BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, UNTIL YOU
  • 00:34:17.050 --> 00:34:19.110
  • UNDERSTAND THIS TRIAL, WHICH
  • 00:34:19.110 --> 00:34:22.010
  • WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, DESCRIBED BY
  • 00:34:22.010 --> 00:34:24.200
  • PAUL AS A "SHORT, LIGHT
  • 00:34:24.200 --> 00:34:26.110
  • AFFLICTION"-- FEELS LIKE HELL ON
  • 00:34:26.110 --> 00:34:28.290
  • EARTH, BUT WHEN YOU ZOOM OUT AND
  • 00:34:28.290 --> 00:34:31.270
  • INCLUDE ETERNITY, THIS IS JUST A
  • 00:34:31.270 --> 00:34:34.120
  • VAPOR THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH,
  • 00:34:34.120 --> 00:34:36.080
  • AND SO THE CONFIDENCE TO KNOW
  • 00:34:36.140 --> 00:34:39.140
  • THAT GOD IS WITH YOU, MAYBE IN A
  • 00:34:39.140 --> 00:34:41.140
  • TRIAL, IS REALLY THE HARDEST.
  • 00:34:41.140 --> 00:34:42.280
  • IS THAT THE HARDEST FOR YOU?
  • 00:34:42.280 --> 00:34:44.180
  • IT MIGHT BE THE HARDEST FOR ME
  • 00:34:44.180 --> 00:34:45.210
  • BUT--
  • 00:34:45.210 --> 00:34:46.100
  • - JOYCE: WELL, ANYTHING THAT'S
  • 00:34:46.100 --> 00:34:49.050
  • PAINFUL IS HARD, PAUL.
  • 00:34:50.020 --> 00:34:53.020
  • YOU KNOW, WE JUST DON'T DO VERY
  • 00:34:53.020 --> 00:34:53.280
  • WELL--
  • 00:34:53.280 --> 00:34:54.150
  • - MATT: I'M MATT, BUT--
  • 00:34:54.150 --> 00:34:55.250
  • - JOYCE: I MEAN-- I'M SORRY.
  • 00:34:55.250 --> 00:34:56.180
  • - MATT: YEAH, THAT'S PAINFUL
  • 00:34:56.180 --> 00:34:57.090
  • THAT YOU--
  • 00:34:57.090 --> 00:34:57.230
  • - JOYCE: I THOUGHT--
  • 00:34:57.230 --> 00:34:58.170
  • - MATT: YEAH, YEAH, SO I'M NOT
  • 00:34:58.170 --> 00:34:59.090
  • FEELING REAL CONFIDENT RIGHT
  • 00:34:59.090 --> 00:34:59.290
  • NOW.
  • 00:34:59.290 --> 00:35:01.140
  • - JOYCE: NOT THAT YOU LOOK LIKE
  • 00:35:01.140 --> 00:35:02.070
  • YOUR DAD--
  • 00:35:02.070 --> 00:35:03.140
  • - MATT: WELL, THAT'S ACTUALLY A
  • 00:35:03.140 --> 00:35:04.060
  • COMPLIMENT.
  • 00:35:04.060 --> 00:35:05.030
  • MY HAIR IS GRAY, SO, I MEAN, YOU
  • 00:35:05.030 --> 00:35:05.260
  • KNOW--
  • 00:35:05.260 --> 00:35:07.070
  • - JOYCE: I GUESS I THOUGHT I
  • 00:35:07.070 --> 00:35:07.280
  • WAS HERE WITH HIM.
  • 00:35:07.280 --> 00:35:08.150
  • YOU GOT HIS SPIRIT.
  • 00:35:08.150 --> 00:35:09.010
  • I GOTTA FIND A GOOD WAY TO GET
  • 00:35:09.010 --> 00:35:09.220
  • OUT OF THIS.
  • 00:35:09.220 --> 00:35:10.170
  • - MATT: I THOUGHT YOU WERE
  • 00:35:10.170 --> 00:35:11.070
  • CALLING ME THE APOSTLE PAUL,
  • 00:35:11.070 --> 00:35:11.270
  • WHICH WAS A BETTER THING.
  • 00:35:11.270 --> 00:35:12.280
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:35:12.280 --> 00:35:14.180
  • - JOYCE: ANYWAY, I'M SORRY.
  • 00:35:14.180 --> 00:35:16.190
  • THAT WOULD BE LIKE YOU CALLING
  • 00:35:16.190 --> 00:35:17.100
  • ME MARILYN.
  • 00:35:17.100 --> 00:35:19.090
  • I MEAN, PEOPLE CALL-- AND I LOVE
  • 00:35:19.090 --> 00:35:21.180
  • MARILYN, BY THE WAY.
  • 00:35:21.180 --> 00:35:23.080
  • I SUPPORT HER MINISTRY, BUT I
  • 00:35:23.080 --> 00:35:24.220
  • HAD A LADY COME UP TO ME ON THE
  • 00:35:24.220 --> 00:35:25.220
  • STREET ONE DAY AND SAY, "YOU'RE
  • 00:35:25.220 --> 00:35:26.140
  • UH, UH, MARILYN, RIGHT?"
  • 00:35:26.140 --> 00:35:28.110
  • AND I'M LIKE, "NO."
  • 00:35:28.110 --> 00:35:31.050
  • - MATT: YEAH, I THINK THIS IS
  • 00:35:31.050 --> 00:35:31.260
  • GETTIN 'WORSE, YEAH, OKAY?
  • 00:35:31.260 --> 00:35:33.140
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:35:33.140 --> 00:35:34.040
  • - JOYCE: WE'RE GETTIN' IN
  • 00:35:34.040 --> 00:35:34.270
  • DEEPER.
  • 00:35:34.270 --> 00:35:35.200
  • LAURIE, WHY DON'T YOU SAY
  • 00:35:35.200 --> 00:35:36.170
  • SOMETHIN'?
  • 00:35:36.170 --> 00:35:37.000
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:35:37.000 --> 00:35:38.170
  • - LAURIE: WE WERE WITH
  • 00:35:38.170 --> 00:35:39.090
  • DR. JEREMIAH THE OTHER NIGHT,
  • 00:35:39.090 --> 00:35:40.220
  • AND SOMEONE CAME UP TO HIM AND
  • 00:35:40.220 --> 00:35:42.270
  • SAID, "I AM SO-- SO NICE TO MEET
  • 00:35:42.280 --> 00:35:45.280
  • YOU," I THINK, "JOHN MAXWELL--"
  • 00:35:45.280 --> 00:35:46.200
  • - MATT: YEAH.
  • 00:35:46.200 --> 00:35:48.050
  • YEAH.
  • 00:35:48.050 --> 00:35:48.160
  • - LAURIE: "WOULD YOU SIGN MY
  • 00:35:48.160 --> 00:35:49.070
  • BIBLE?"
  • 00:35:49.070 --> 00:35:49.180
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:35:49.180 --> 00:35:50.040
  • AND HE GOES, "OKAY," AND HE
  • 00:35:50.040 --> 00:35:52.070
  • SAID, "I JUST SIGNED IT 'JOHN
  • 00:35:52.070 --> 00:35:53.060
  • MAXWELL' AND GAVE IT BACK TO
  • 00:35:53.060 --> 00:35:53.260
  • HIM."
  • 00:35:53.260 --> 00:35:56.010
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:35:56.010 --> 00:35:56.280
  • - JOYCE: THAT'S SO FUNNY.
  • 00:35:56.280 --> 00:35:59.030
  • WE'VE GOTTEN TOTALLY LOST.
  • 00:35:59.030 --> 00:36:00.050
  • - MATT: YEAH, I DON'T EVEN KNOW
  • 00:36:00.050 --> 00:36:00.270
  • WHAT THE QUESTION WAS NOW.
  • 00:36:00.270 --> 00:36:01.160
  • - JOYCE: I DON'T EITHER NOW.
  • 00:36:01.160 --> 00:36:02.070
  • - LAURIE: OKAY, ALL RIGHT.
  • 00:36:02.070 --> 00:36:03.240
  • - JOYCE: I TRIED TO ANSWER THE
  • 00:36:03.240 --> 00:36:04.160
  • - MATT: "THE CONFIDENT WOMAN"
  • 00:36:06.100 --> 00:36:07.140
  • IS WHAT I FEEL LIKE NOW SO--
  • 00:36:07.140 --> 00:36:09.020
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:36:09.020 --> 00:36:09.190
  • -- NO, I'M JUST JOKING.
  • 00:36:09.190 --> 00:36:12.070
  • THE DEVOTIONAL IS AVAILABLE.
  • 00:36:12.070 --> 00:36:13.150
  • THE 800 NUMBER IS ON YOUR
  • 00:36:13.150 --> 00:36:14.110
  • SCREEN.
  • 00:36:14.110 --> 00:36:15.090
  • JOYCE MEYER IS WITH US, ALL ONE
  • 00:36:15.090 --> 00:36:16.270
  • HOUR.
  • 00:36:16.270 --> 00:36:17.200
  • OKAY, GO SOMEWHERE ELSE.
  • 00:36:17.200 --> 00:36:20.050
  • WHAT DO YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT
  • 00:36:20.050 --> 00:36:20.250
  • - JOYCE: LET'S TALK ABOUT SOME
  • 00:36:23.190 --> 00:36:24.110
  • OF THE PROBLEMS THAT IT CREATES
  • 00:36:24.110 --> 00:36:25.030
  • WHEN WE DON'T HAVE CONFIDENCE.
  • 00:36:25.030 --> 00:36:25.240
  • - MATT: GOOD.
  • 00:36:25.240 --> 00:36:26.070
  • - JOYCE: OKAY, FIRST OF ALL,
  • 00:36:26.070 --> 00:36:26.280
  • YOUR POTENTIAL IN CHRIST IS
  • 00:36:26.280 --> 00:36:28.040
  • NEVER REACHED.
  • 00:36:28.040 --> 00:36:29.160
  • YOU KNOW, GOD MADE THAT VERY
  • 00:36:29.260 --> 00:36:32.260
  • CLEAR TO JOSHUA WHEN HE WAS
  • 00:36:32.260 --> 00:36:35.110
  • CALLED TO TAKE MOSES'S SPOT, AND
  • 00:36:36.270 --> 00:36:39.270
  • I LOVE WHAT GOD SAID TO JOSHUA.
  • 00:36:39.270 --> 00:36:42.250
  • HE SAID, "I WILL BE WITH YOU AS
  • 00:36:42.250 --> 00:36:43.170
  • I WAS WITH MOSES."
  • 00:36:43.170 --> 00:36:44.230
  • HE DIDN'T SAY,
  • 00:36:44.230 --> 00:36:46.090
  • "YOU GO BE LIKE MOSES."
  • 00:36:46.090 --> 00:36:47.210
  • HE SAID, "I WILL BE WITH YOU AS
  • 00:36:51.100 --> 00:36:54.100
  • I WAS WITH MOSES."
  • 00:36:54.100 --> 00:36:55.150
  • SO YOU THINK
  • 00:36:55.150 --> 00:36:55.290
  • ABOUT, OKAY, YOUR DAD DIES, AND
  • 00:36:55.290 --> 00:36:56.250
  • YOU TAKE OVER TBN.
  • 00:36:56.250 --> 00:36:58.000
  • WELL, OR LIKE JOEL OSTEEN, HIS
  • 00:36:58.000 --> 00:37:00.030
  • DAD DIES, AND HE-- I MEAN, I WAS
  • 00:37:00.120 --> 00:37:03.120
  • THERE RIGHT AFTER THAT HAPPENED.
  • 00:37:03.120 --> 00:37:05.090
  • I WAS GONNA HAVE MY FIRST
  • 00:37:05.090 --> 00:37:08.090
  • CONFERENCE EVER IN THEIR CHURCH,
  • 00:37:08.090 --> 00:37:10.180
  • AND NOW I'VE BEEN THERE EVERY
  • 00:37:10.180 --> 00:37:11.160
  • YEAR FOR 18 YEARS, I THINK, AND
  • 00:37:11.160 --> 00:37:12.250
  • JUST REALLY LOVE THEM, BUT, I
  • 00:37:12.270 --> 00:37:15.270
  • MEAN, JOEL WAS SO SCARED.
  • 00:37:15.270 --> 00:37:18.220
  • I MEAN, HE WAS LISTENIN' TO
  • 00:37:18.220 --> 00:37:20.270
  • EVERY SINGLE WORD THAT I SAID,
  • 00:37:20.270 --> 00:37:23.220
  • BUT GOD IS WITH YOU GUYS THE
  • 00:37:23.220 --> 00:37:26.100
  • SAME AS HE WAS-- IT'S GOD THAT
  • 00:37:26.210 --> 00:37:29.210
  • MAKES THE DIFFERENCE.
  • 00:37:29.210 --> 00:37:31.210
  • IT'S NOT THAT I HAVE TO GO DO
  • 00:37:31.210 --> 00:37:33.030
  • WHAT SOMEBODY ELSE DID.
  • 00:37:33.030 --> 00:37:34.100
  • IT'S IF GOD IS WITH ME, THEN
  • 00:37:34.100 --> 00:37:36.040
  • IT'S GOING TO WORK.
  • 00:37:37.150 --> 00:37:40.150
  • SO IF YOU-- HE KEPT TELLING HIM,
  • 00:37:40.150 --> 00:37:42.250
  • "YOU GOTTA BE VERY COURAGEOUS
  • 00:37:43.020 --> 00:37:46.020
  • AND VERY BRAVE, AND I WILL BE
  • 00:37:46.020 --> 00:37:48.100
  • WITH YOU AS I WAS WITH MOSES."
  • 00:37:48.100 --> 00:37:50.060
  • SO YOU'RE NEVER GONNA FIND OUT
  • 00:37:50.060 --> 00:37:51.190
  • WHAT YOU'RE CAPABLE OF IF YOU
  • 00:37:51.190 --> 00:37:54.100
  • WON'T EVER HAVE THE CONFIDENCE
  • 00:37:54.100 --> 00:37:56.090
  • TO STEP OUT AND FIND OUT.
  • 00:37:56.090 --> 00:37:58.140
  • - MATT: THAT'S BEAUTIFUL.
  • 00:37:58.140 --> 00:37:59.120
  • - JOYCE: THAT'S ANOTHER THING I
  • 00:37:59.120 --> 00:38:00.210
  • LIKE TO SAY: "STEP OUT AND FIND
  • 00:38:00.210 --> 00:38:01.240
  • OUT."
  • 00:38:02.090 --> 00:38:05.090
  • FEAR RULES, AND YOU WILL
  • 00:38:05.090 --> 00:38:05.270
  • LIVE IN ABSOLUTE TORMENT.
  • 00:38:05.270 --> 00:38:06.160
  • THERE'S NOTHING WORSE THAN
  • 00:38:06.160 --> 00:38:08.010
  • BELIEVING THAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED
  • 00:38:08.010 --> 00:38:09.130
  • TO DO SOMETHING, AND BEING TOO
  • 00:38:09.130 --> 00:38:11.200
  • AFRAID TO DO IT, AND SO ONE OF
  • 00:38:11.200 --> 00:38:13.160
  • THE MESSAGES THAT I'VE PREACHED
  • 00:38:13.160 --> 00:38:15.020
  • OVER THE YEARS IS "DO IT
  • 00:38:15.020 --> 00:38:16.130
  • AFRAID," AND PEOPLE REALLY LOVE
  • 00:38:16.130 --> 00:38:17.270
  • THAT THOUGHT, AND IT CAME FROM A
  • 00:38:19.200 --> 00:38:22.200
  • STORY THAT I WAS READING ABOUT A
  • 00:38:22.200 --> 00:38:24.080
  • WOMAN WHO HAD LIVED ALL OF HER
  • 00:38:24.080 --> 00:38:25.200
  • LIFE IN FEAR, WOULDN'T DRIVE,
  • 00:38:25.200 --> 00:38:27.070
  • WOULDN'T GO OUT AT NIGHT.
  • 00:38:27.070 --> 00:38:28.030
  • I MEAN, SHE JUST WAS RULED BY
  • 00:38:28.030 --> 00:38:29.150
  • FEAR, AND SHE WAS A CHRISTIAN.
  • 00:38:29.150 --> 00:38:30.280
  • SHE WAS TELLING ANOTHER
  • 00:38:30.280 --> 00:38:33.210
  • CHRISTIAN FRIEND HER WOES ABOUT
  • 00:38:33.210 --> 00:38:35.070
  • HOW SHE'D BEEN CONTROLLED BY
  • 00:38:35.070 --> 00:38:36.280
  • FEAR, ON AND ON, AND THE LADY
  • 00:38:36.280 --> 00:38:39.040
  • JUST LOOKED AT HER AND SO SIMPLY
  • 00:38:39.040 --> 00:38:40.010
  • SAID, "WELL, WHY DON'T YOU JUST
  • 00:38:40.010 --> 00:38:40.230
  • DO IT AFRAID?"
  • 00:38:40.230 --> 00:38:42.010
  • - MATT: ISN'T THAT AMAZING?
  • 00:38:42.010 --> 00:38:44.090
  • - JOYCE: SO WHY DO WE THINK
  • 00:38:44.090 --> 00:38:47.010
  • THAT FEELING FEAR HAS TO KEEP US
  • 00:38:47.260 --> 00:38:50.260
  • FROM DOING WHAT WE WANNA DO?
  • 00:38:53.110 --> 00:38:56.110
  • THE THING IS, YOU CAN DO IT WITH
  • 00:38:56.110 --> 00:38:58.060
  • THE FEELING OF FEAR, AND THAT'S
  • 00:38:58.060 --> 00:39:00.150
  • THE ONLY WAY YOU'LL EVER GET
  • 00:39:00.150 --> 00:39:03.140
  • OVER FEELING AFRAID.
  • 00:39:03.140 --> 00:39:05.110
  • THE FIRST TIME THAT I HAD AN
  • 00:39:05.110 --> 00:39:07.190
  • OPPORTUNITY TO STAND IN FRONT OF
  • 00:39:07.190 --> 00:39:09.250
  • ANY NUMBER OF PEOPLE, I GOT
  • 00:39:09.250 --> 00:39:11.220
  • INVITED TO DO A CONFERENCE, BE
  • 00:39:11.220 --> 00:39:14.140
  • PART OF A CONFERENCE IN
  • 00:39:14.140 --> 00:39:16.040
  • JACKSONVILLE, FLORIDA.
  • 00:39:16.040 --> 00:39:18.010
  • - MATT: ROUGHLY, WHAT YEAR?
  • 00:39:18.010 --> 00:39:18.290
  • - JOYCE: SEVENTIES?
  • 00:39:20.050 --> 00:39:23.050
  • EIGHT-ONE, SOMETHIN' LIKE THAT.
  • 00:39:23.050 --> 00:39:23.270
  • - MATT: EIGHTY?
  • 00:39:23.270 --> 00:39:25.110
  • OKAY, EARLY '80S.
  • 00:39:25.110 --> 00:39:26.120
  • - JOYCE: 'CAUSE I'D BEEN
  • 00:39:26.120 --> 00:39:27.010
  • TEACHIN' HOME BIBLE STUDIES,
  • 00:39:27.010 --> 00:39:27.280
  • JUST, REALLY BELIEVIN' SO HARD
  • 00:39:27.280 --> 00:39:29.130
  • TO GET SPEAKING ENGAGEMENTS, AND
  • 00:39:29.130 --> 00:39:31.180
  • SO SOMEBODY CANCELED AT THE LAST
  • 00:39:33.210 --> 00:39:36.210
  • MINUTE, AND SO I WAS NOT LIKE
  • 00:39:36.210 --> 00:39:37.280
  • ANYBODY'S FIRST CHOICE, AND SO
  • 00:39:37.280 --> 00:39:39.150
  • SOMEBODY WHO KNEW SOMEBODY WHO
  • 00:39:41.010 --> 00:39:44.010
  • KNEW SOMEBODY WHO KNEW SOMEBODY,
  • 00:39:44.010 --> 00:39:45.290
  • KNEW ME, AND SO THEY WERE JUST
  • 00:39:45.290 --> 00:39:46.200
  • DESPERATE ENOUGH.
  • 00:39:47.020 --> 00:39:50.020
  • THEY SAID, "YEAH, WELL, WE'LL
  • 00:39:50.020 --> 00:39:51.070
  • HAVE HER."
  • 00:39:51.070 --> 00:39:53.030
  • WELL, I WASN'T A MAIN SPEAKER.
  • 00:39:53.030 --> 00:39:54.020
  • I WAS A WORKSHOP SPEAKER, SO YOU
  • 00:39:54.020 --> 00:39:55.110
  • HAVE ALL THESE PEOPLE IN THE
  • 00:39:55.110 --> 00:39:57.130
  • FRONT ROW THAT ARE SPEAKING, AND
  • 00:39:57.130 --> 00:39:59.230
  • I WAS SITTIN' UP THERE, FINALLY
  • 00:39:59.230 --> 00:40:01.070
  • MADE IT TO THE FRONT ROW, AND
  • 00:40:01.070 --> 00:40:03.000
  • EVERYBODY THERE HAD A TITLE.
  • 00:40:03.120 --> 00:40:06.120
  • THERE WAS REVEREND THIS, AND
  • 00:40:06.120 --> 00:40:08.190
  • BISHOP THAT, AND DR. SO-AND-SO,
  • 00:40:08.190 --> 00:40:10.190
  • AND THEN JOYCE FROM, LIKE,
  • 00:40:10.190 --> 00:40:11.250
  • WHICH SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE FROM
  • 00:40:15.270 --> 00:40:16.180
  • NOWHERE, AND I HAD THIS BIG
  • 00:40:16.180 --> 00:40:17.240
  • VISION FROM GOD THAT I WAS GONNA
  • 00:40:18.150 --> 00:40:21.150
  • BACK THEN, IT WAS CASSETTE
  • 00:40:26.220 --> 00:40:27.120
  • TAPES.
  • 00:40:27.120 --> 00:40:27.210
  • I FELT LIKE GOD SAID, "YOU'RE
  • 00:40:27.210 --> 00:40:28.270
  • GONNA HAVE A LARGE TEACHING-TAPE
  • 00:40:28.270 --> 00:40:29.200
  • MINISTRY," AND, OF COURSE, NOW
  • 00:40:29.200 --> 00:40:32.160
  • THAT'S FUNNY TO ME BECAUSE, I
  • 00:40:32.160 --> 00:40:33.240
  • MEAN, WE DON'T USE TAPE ANYMORE
  • 00:40:33.240 --> 00:40:36.180
  • FOR TV, BUT WE USED TO, AND SO
  • 00:40:36.180 --> 00:40:38.230
  • MY MESSAGES ARE RECORDED AND
  • 00:40:39.180 --> 00:40:42.180
  • SENT OUT ALL OVER THE WORLD NOW,
  • 00:40:42.180 --> 00:40:43.110
  • SO GOD WAS EXACTLY RIGHT IN WHAT
  • 00:40:43.110 --> 00:40:45.130
  • HE SAID, BUT I WAS, LIKE, A
  • 00:40:45.130 --> 00:40:47.080
  • MILLION MILES AWAY FROM THAT
  • 00:40:47.080 --> 00:40:47.290
  • THEN.
  • 00:40:47.290 --> 00:40:48.250
  • SO THERE WERE 900 PEOPLE IN THIS
  • 00:40:49.280 --> 00:40:52.280
  • CONFERENCE, AND THEY LOOKED LIKE
  • 00:40:52.280 --> 00:40:54.030
  • NINE MILLION TO ME, AND THEY
  • 00:40:54.030 --> 00:40:55.190
  • WANTED EACH WORKSHOP SPEAKER TO
  • 00:40:55.190 --> 00:40:57.100
  • GET UP AND SAY WHAT THEIR
  • 00:40:57.100 --> 00:40:59.070
  • WORKSHOP WAS GOING TO BE ABOUT,
  • 00:40:59.070 --> 00:41:00.220
  • AND I WAS SO SCARED.
  • 00:41:01.050 --> 00:41:04.050
  • I WAS SO SCARED-- IT'S GONNA BE
  • 00:41:06.020 --> 00:41:09.020
  • HARD FOR YOU TO BELIEVE-- THAT,
  • 00:41:09.020 --> 00:41:09.250
  • WHEN I OPENED MY MOUTH TO TRY TO
  • 00:41:09.250 --> 00:41:12.230
  • TELL 'EM WHAT MY WORKSHOP WAS
  • 00:41:12.230 --> 00:41:13.160
  • GONNA BE ABOUT, NOTHING CAME
  • 00:41:13.160 --> 00:41:14.140
  • OUT.
  • 00:41:14.140 --> 00:41:16.080
  • IT WAS JUST A LITTLE SQUEAK.
  • 00:41:16.080 --> 00:41:17.200
  • I JUST MADE THIS LITTLE SQUEAK,
  • 00:41:18.110 --> 00:41:21.110
  • AND, I MEAN, THE DEVIL'S
  • 00:41:21.110 --> 00:41:23.050
  • SCREAMING, "YOU NEED TO PACK
  • 00:41:23.050 --> 00:41:25.050
  • YOUR TAPES UP AND GO BACK TO
  • 00:41:25.050 --> 00:41:27.090
  • FENTON AND STAY THERE 'CAUSE
  • 00:41:27.090 --> 00:41:28.120
  • THAT'S WHERE YOU BELONG.
  • 00:41:28.120 --> 00:41:29.010
  • YOU'RE WAY OUT OF YOUR LEAGUE."
  • 00:41:29.010 --> 00:41:30.210
  • AND SO I KNEW I HAD TWO OPTIONS:
  • 00:41:30.210 --> 00:41:33.210
  • RUN OFF THE PLATFORM, GO HOME,
  • 00:41:33.210 --> 00:41:35.160
  • OR TRY ONE MORE TIME AND HOPE
  • 00:41:36.260 --> 00:41:39.260
  • SOMETHIN' CAME OUT.
  • 00:41:39.260 --> 00:41:41.030
  • WELL, THAT TIME I WAS ABLE TO
  • 00:41:41.030 --> 00:41:42.040
  • TELL 'EM, AND THE NEXT DAY, SO
  • 00:41:42.040 --> 00:41:43.240
  • MANY PEOPLE CAME TO MY WORKSHOP
  • 00:41:43.240 --> 00:41:45.190
  • THAT THEY COULDN'T EVEN ALL GET
  • 00:41:46.080 --> 00:41:49.080
  • IN THE PLACE, AND I HAD ALL MY
  • 00:41:49.080 --> 00:41:50.200
  • CASSETTE TAPES, AND THE PEOPLE
  • 00:41:50.200 --> 00:41:52.030
  • BOUGHT EVERYTHING.
  • 00:41:52.030 --> 00:41:53.020
  • THEY WOULD'VE BOUGHT THE
  • 00:41:53.020 --> 00:41:54.020
  • TABLECLOTH IF DAVE WOULD'VE SOLD
  • 00:41:54.020 --> 00:41:55.040
  • 'EM TO 'EM.
  • 00:41:55.040 --> 00:41:55.220
  • AND SO IT WAS A GREAT VICTORY
  • 00:41:55.220 --> 00:41:58.120
  • FOR ME THAT ENDED UP GIVING ME A
  • 00:41:58.120 --> 00:42:01.060
  • LOT OF CONFIDENCE, BUT I WAS SO
  • 00:42:01.060 --> 00:42:03.040
  • SCARED WHEN I FIRST TRIED, AND,
  • 00:42:03.270 --> 00:42:06.270
  • I MEAN, I COULD TELL YOU STORY
  • 00:42:06.270 --> 00:42:09.120
  • AFTER STORY LIKE THAT OF HOW,
  • 00:42:09.120 --> 00:42:10.240
  • YOU KNOW, COURAGE IS NOT THE
  • 00:42:10.240 --> 00:42:11.250
  • ABSENCE OF FEAR.
  • 00:42:11.250 --> 00:42:13.160
  • IT'S PROGRESS IN THE FACE OF
  • 00:42:14.050 --> 00:42:17.050
  • FEAR, AND SO I DON'T KNOW WHY WE
  • 00:42:17.070 --> 00:42:20.070
  • THINK THAT WE SHOULD HAVE THE
  • 00:42:20.070 --> 00:42:21.130
  • PRIVILEGE OF GETTING TO DO
  • 00:42:21.130 --> 00:42:24.030
  • EVERYTHING WITHOUT FEAR.
  • 00:42:24.030 --> 00:42:26.100
  • BOTTOM LINE IS, IF YOU'RE GONNA
  • 00:42:26.100 --> 00:42:28.020
  • WAIT TILL YOU DON'T HAVE ANY
  • 00:42:28.020 --> 00:42:28.220
  • FEAR, YOU'RE LIKELY TO NEVER DO
  • 00:42:28.220 --> 00:42:30.120
  • ANYTHING IN YOUR LIFE BECAUSE
  • 00:42:30.120 --> 00:42:32.140
  • SATAN USES FEAR TO KEEP US FROM
  • 00:42:32.140 --> 00:42:35.020
  • GOING FORWARD.
  • 00:42:35.130 --> 00:42:38.130
  • WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A DAILY
  • 00:42:43.100 --> 00:42:44.240
  • DEVOTIONAL, "THE CONFIDENT
  • 00:42:44.240 --> 00:42:45.150
  • WOMAN."
  • 00:42:45.150 --> 00:42:45.280
  • YOU'RE TELLING A STORY
  • 00:42:45.280 --> 00:42:46.160
  • FROM THE EARLY '80S.
  • 00:42:46.160 --> 00:42:48.160
  • WE'RE NOW IN-- YOU KNOW, YOU
  • 00:42:48.160 --> 00:42:50.290
  • REALIZE WE'RE GETTIN' CLOSE TO
  • 00:42:50.290 --> 00:42:51.200
  • 2020?
  • 00:42:51.200 --> 00:42:52.210
  • I MEAN, YOU'VE BEEN IN MINISTRY
  • 00:42:52.210 --> 00:42:53.230
  • - JOYCE: YEAH, 43 YEARS, 42.
  • 00:42:57.150 --> 00:42:58.060
  • - MATT: SO FROM A TIME THAT YOU
  • 00:42:58.230 --> 00:43:01.250
  • FIRST OPENED YOUR MOUTH AT A--
  • 00:43:01.250 --> 00:43:02.160
  • AND SQUEAKED--
  • 00:43:02.160 --> 00:43:04.050
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:43:04.050 --> 00:43:06.100
  • -- AND WAS A WORKSHOP SPEAKER,
  • 00:43:06.200 --> 00:43:09.200
  • TO NOW HAVING 9 INTERNATIONAL
  • 00:43:09.200 --> 00:43:10.280
  • OFFICES, 22 FIELD OFFICES;
  • 00:43:12.260 --> 00:43:15.260
  • YOU HAVE HUNDREDS OF EMPLOYEES;
  • 00:43:16.070 --> 00:43:19.070
  • YOU'RE NOW ON OVER A THOUSAND
  • 00:43:19.180 --> 00:43:22.180
  • TELEVISION, RADIO, AND INTERNET
  • 00:43:22.180 --> 00:43:23.100
  • STATIONS IN 95 LANGUAGES; YOU'VE
  • 00:43:23.160 --> 00:43:26.160
  • AUTHORED 121 BOOKS; YOU HAVE
  • 00:43:26.160 --> 00:43:28.220
  • 1.600 RESOURCES AVAILABLE; AND
  • 00:43:30.030 --> 00:43:33.030
  • YOU'VE DISTRIBUTED OVER 67
  • 00:43:33.030 --> 00:43:35.240
  • MILLION BOOKS-- OKAY?
  • 00:43:35.240 --> 00:43:38.070
  • YOU'VE SERVED 326 MILLION MEALS
  • 00:43:40.130 --> 00:43:43.130
  • TO HUNGRY PEOPLE; YOU HAVE 11
  • 00:43:43.130 --> 00:43:46.020
  • MILLION FANS ON YOUR FACEBOOK
  • 00:43:46.020 --> 00:43:47.290
  • PAGE; MILLIONS VISIT MONTHLY.
  • 00:43:47.290 --> 00:43:50.190
  • YOU KNOW, IT GOES ON AND ON AND
  • 00:43:51.090 --> 00:43:54.090
  • ON, BUT THAT WAS 40-SOMETHIN'
  • 00:43:54.090 --> 00:43:56.060
  • YEARS, SO THAT WASN'T AN
  • 00:43:56.060 --> 00:43:58.170
  • OVERNIGHT SUCCESS, YOU KNOW?
  • 00:43:58.170 --> 00:43:59.160
  • - JOYCE: NO, NO, NO, NO.
  • 00:43:59.160 --> 00:44:00.190
  • - MATT: YEAH, IT WAS A LOT OF
  • 00:44:00.190 --> 00:44:01.250
  • HARD IN BETWEEN.
  • 00:44:01.250 --> 00:44:02.240
  • SO PEOPLE TRYING TO COMPARE
  • 00:44:02.240 --> 00:44:05.210
  • THEMSELF TO A JOYCE MEYER DON'T
  • 00:44:05.210 --> 00:44:08.120
  • REALIZE THE 40-SOMETHIN' YEARS
  • 00:44:08.120 --> 00:44:10.010
  • PUT INTO THIS THING TO MAKE YOU
  • 00:44:10.010 --> 00:44:12.130
  • WHO YOU ARE.
  • 00:44:12.190 --> 00:44:15.190
  • - JOYCE: I TRY TO TELL PEOPLE--
  • 00:44:15.190 --> 00:44:16.120
  • EVEN, LIKE, WHEN I SAY I TAUGHT
  • 00:44:16.120 --> 00:44:17.130
  • HOME BIBLE STUDIES FOR FIVE
  • 00:44:17.130 --> 00:44:18.040
  • YEARS AS THE-- YOU KNOW, HEAR
  • 00:44:18.040 --> 00:44:19.210
  • WHAT I SAID: I DIDN'T SAY FIVE
  • 00:44:19.210 --> 00:44:21.070
  • MINUTES.
  • 00:44:21.070 --> 00:44:22.000
  • I DIDN'T MAKE ANY MONEY FOR
  • 00:44:22.000 --> 00:44:24.040
  • THAT.
  • 00:44:24.040 --> 00:44:26.150
  • I WASN'T PAID TO DO WHAT I DID,
  • 00:44:26.150 --> 00:44:27.270
  • AND WE HAD REAL FINANCIAL NEEDS
  • 00:44:29.010 --> 00:44:32.010
  • BECAUSE I FELT LIKE GOD PUT IT
  • 00:44:32.010 --> 00:44:33.180
  • ON MY HEART TO QUIT MY JOB SO I
  • 00:44:33.180 --> 00:44:35.250
  • WOULD HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO STUDY,
  • 00:44:35.250 --> 00:44:37.180
  • TO LEARN SOMETHIN', BECAUSE I
  • 00:44:37.180 --> 00:44:39.120
  • WAS TRYIN' TO TEACH SOMETHIN' I
  • 00:44:39.120 --> 00:44:42.000
  • DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT.
  • 00:44:42.000 --> 00:44:43.040
  • AND I CAN'T EVEN TELL YOU HOW
  • 00:44:45.100 --> 00:44:48.100
  • MANY FEARS THAT I'VE HAD TO FACE
  • 00:44:48.100 --> 00:44:50.040
  • ALONG THE WAY, AND IF YOU'RE IN
  • 00:44:51.230 --> 00:44:54.230
  • A HURRY, HANGIN' OUT WITH GOD IS
  • 00:44:54.240 --> 00:44:57.240
  • JUST GONNA FRUSTRATE YOU ALL THE
  • 00:44:57.240 --> 00:44:59.130
  • TIME, AND I WAS FRUSTRATED A
  • 00:44:59.130 --> 00:45:00.200
  • LOT.
  • 00:45:00.200 --> 00:45:02.080
  • I DID NOT ENJOY MY JOURNEY LIKE
  • 00:45:02.080 --> 00:45:04.080
  • I WANT PEOPLE TO ENJOY THEIRS.
  • 00:45:04.080 --> 00:45:06.150
  • I HAVE, PROBABLY, IN THE LAST
  • 00:45:06.150 --> 00:45:08.050
  • 20 YEARS, BUT, I MEAN, I WAS
  • 00:45:08.050 --> 00:45:10.060
  • MISERABLE THE FIRST FEW YEARS
  • 00:45:10.060 --> 00:45:11.100
  • BECAUSE, WHEN GOD GIVES YOU A
  • 00:45:11.100 --> 00:45:14.060
  • VISION, YOU SEE IT IN ITS MATURE
  • 00:45:14.060 --> 00:45:16.270
  • STATE.
  • 00:45:16.270 --> 00:45:19.180
  • I DON'T KNOW WHY HE DOES THAT.
  • 00:45:19.180 --> 00:45:21.120
  • IT WOULD BE KIND OF MORE FUN IF
  • 00:45:21.120 --> 00:45:22.180
  • HE JUST SHOWED IT TO YOU IN
  • 00:45:22.180 --> 00:45:23.230
  • LITTLE INCREMENTS, BUT YOU SEE--
  • 00:45:23.230 --> 00:45:24.260
  • YOU DON'T SEE A BABY.
  • 00:45:24.260 --> 00:45:27.160
  • YOU SEE A FULL-GROWN CHILD, BUT
  • 00:45:27.160 --> 00:45:30.120
  • IT DEVELOPS LITTLE BY LITTLE BY
  • 00:45:38.120 --> 00:45:41.120
  • LITTLE, BUT, LIKE, WHEN GOD HAD
  • 00:45:41.120 --> 00:45:42.040
  • ME QUIT MY JOB, I DIDN'T
  • 00:45:42.040 --> 00:45:43.030
  • IMMEDIATELY OBEY GOD.
  • 00:45:43.030 --> 00:45:46.030
  • I QUIT MY FULL-TIME JOB, AND I
  • 00:45:46.030 --> 00:45:47.150
  • GOT A PART-TIME JOB.
  • 00:45:47.150 --> 00:45:50.060
  • PART-TIME OBEDIENCE DOESN'T
  • 00:45:50.060 --> 00:45:50.260
  • WORK.
  • 00:45:50.260 --> 00:45:52.100
  • I GOT FIRED FROM MY PART-TIME
  • 00:45:52.100 --> 00:45:53.170
  • JOB, AND I WAS NOT THE KIND OF
  • 00:45:53.170 --> 00:45:55.180
  • EMPLOYEE THAT GOT FIRED.
  • 00:45:55.180 --> 00:45:57.170
  • I WAS A GOOD WORKER, AND I
  • 00:45:57.170 --> 00:45:58.110
  • ALWAYS GOT PROMOTED, NOT FIRED.
  • 00:45:58.110 --> 00:45:59.140
  • SO I KNEW GOD MEANT BUSINESS,
  • 00:45:59.140 --> 00:46:02.100
  • BUT WE WERE $40 A MONTH SHORT OF
  • 00:46:02.100 --> 00:46:04.270
  • BEIN' ABLE TO PAY OUR BILLS, AND
  • 00:46:04.270 --> 00:46:05.220
  • I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW SCARED I
  • 00:46:06.080 --> 00:46:09.080
  • WAS.
  • 00:46:09.080 --> 00:46:10.030
  • I REMEMBER WALKIN' DOWN THE
  • 00:46:10.030 --> 00:46:11.030
  • HALL, FEELIN' LIKE MY LEGS WERE
  • 00:46:11.030 --> 00:46:12.130
  • GONNA COLLAPSE UNDER ME, AND THE
  • 00:46:12.130 --> 00:46:14.140
  • LORD SAID, "YOU CAN DO THIS TWO
  • 00:46:14.140 --> 00:46:15.290
  • WAYS: YOU CAN WORRY CONSTANTLY,
  • 00:46:15.290 --> 00:46:18.020
  • OR YOU CAN TRUST ME FOR DAILY
  • 00:46:18.020 --> 00:46:20.120
  • MIRACLES," AND I'M TELLIN' YOU,
  • 00:46:20.120 --> 00:46:22.180
  • FOR FIVE YEARS, THAT'S WHAT WE
  • 00:46:22.180 --> 00:46:23.240
  • HAD EVERY SINGLE MONTH.
  • 00:46:23.240 --> 00:46:26.130
  • GOD DID SOMETHING AND PROVIDED.
  • 00:46:26.280 --> 00:46:29.280
  • NOW, WE DIDN'T HAVE-- I KIND OF
  • 00:46:29.280 --> 00:46:31.090
  • FEEL LIKE THE ISRAELITES WHO
  • 00:46:31.090 --> 00:46:32.240
  • WENT 40 YEARS WITHOUT THEIR
  • 00:46:32.240 --> 00:46:33.270
  • SHOES WEARIN' OUT.
  • 00:46:33.270 --> 00:46:34.240
  • YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T GET A LOT OF
  • 00:46:34.240 --> 00:46:36.150
  • NEW STUFF, BUT GOD PROVIDED FOR
  • 00:46:36.200 --> 00:46:39.200
  • US, AND TO BE HONEST WITH YOU,
  • 00:46:39.200 --> 00:46:40.270
  • WHEN I LOOK BACK NOW, THOSE WERE
  • 00:46:40.280 --> 00:46:43.280
  • SOME OF THE MOST EXCITING AND
  • 00:46:44.110 --> 00:46:47.110
  • THE MOST PRECIOUS DAYS IN MY
  • 00:46:47.110 --> 00:46:48.230
  • LIFE BECAUSE I REMEMBER HOW
  • 00:46:48.230 --> 00:46:50.100
  • EXCITED I WOULD GET WHEN I
  • 00:46:50.100 --> 00:46:52.040
  • PRAYED FOR A NEW SKILLET AND
  • 00:46:52.040 --> 00:46:53.180
  • SOMEBODY WOULD GIVE ME ONE OR,
  • 00:46:53.180 --> 00:46:54.090
  • YOU KNOW, I MEAN, LITERALLY, WE
  • 00:46:54.090 --> 00:46:55.240
  • WERE BELIEVING FOR EVERY SINGLE
  • 00:46:55.240 --> 00:46:58.040
  • THING THAT WE HAD, BUT THAT WAS
  • 00:46:59.080 --> 00:47:02.100
  • WHERE I LEARNED TO TRUST GOD--
  • 00:47:02.100 --> 00:47:04.170
  • AND THAT'S WHY I CAN NOW NEED
  • 00:47:06.210 --> 00:47:09.210
  • WHAT WE NEED, WHICH I WON'T EVEN
  • 00:47:10.110 --> 00:47:13.110
  • SAY THE NUMBER BECAUSE IT MAKES
  • 00:47:13.110 --> 00:47:14.240
  • ME WANNA FAINT-- AND NOT WORRY
  • 00:47:14.240 --> 00:47:16.060
  • ABOUT IT.
  • 00:47:16.060 --> 00:47:18.150
  • I DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT BECAUSE
  • 00:47:18.150 --> 00:47:20.040
  • I'VE WATCHED GOD DO IT.
  • 00:47:20.040 --> 00:47:21.290
  • SEE, A LOT OF PEOPLE, THEY WANNA
  • 00:47:22.150 --> 00:47:25.150
  • BE SOMEWHERE, BUT THEY DON'T
  • 00:47:25.150 --> 00:47:27.010
  • WANNA GO THROUGH THE STEPS OR
  • 00:47:27.010 --> 00:47:29.220
  • THROUGH THE DOORS TO GET THERE,
  • 00:47:29.220 --> 00:47:31.280
  • AND I HAVE A MESSAGE THAT I
  • 00:47:31.280 --> 00:47:34.110
  • TEACH, CALLED "ENJOYING WHERE
  • 00:47:34.110 --> 00:47:35.260
  • YOU'RE AT ON THE WAY TO WHERE
  • 00:47:35.260 --> 00:47:36.220
  • YOU'RE GOING."
  • 00:47:36.220 --> 00:47:38.160
  • YOU KNOW, WHAT A SHAME.
  • 00:47:38.160 --> 00:47:39.040
  • I MEAN, DAVID WAS ANOINTED TO BE
  • 00:47:39.040 --> 00:47:40.170
  • KING 20 YEARS BEFORE HE WORE THE
  • 00:47:40.170 --> 00:47:42.170
  • CROWN.
  • 00:47:42.170 --> 00:47:43.010
  • JOSEPH WAS 13 YEARS BEFORE HE
  • 00:47:43.110 --> 00:47:46.110
  • DID WHAT GOD SHOWED HIM.
  • 00:47:47.040 --> 00:47:50.040
  • MOSES WAS 40 YEARS, YOU KNOW, ON
  • 00:47:50.040 --> 00:47:52.050
  • THE BACK SIDE OF NOWHERE.
  • 00:47:52.050 --> 00:47:53.070
  • HE'D FORGOTTEN ALL ABOUT HIS
  • 00:47:53.070 --> 00:47:55.000
  • DREAM BY THE TIME HE HAD HIS
  • 00:47:55.000 --> 00:47:58.000
  • LITTLE BURNING BUSH EXPERIENCE.
  • 00:47:58.000 --> 00:48:00.180
  • AND SO IT'S EVIDENT ALL
  • 00:48:00.180 --> 00:48:01.060
  • THROUGHOUT THE BIBLE THAT
  • 00:48:01.060 --> 00:48:02.010
  • GOD CALLS US TO DO
  • 00:48:02.010 --> 00:48:03.230
  • SOMETHING, AND THEN WE GO
  • 00:48:03.230 --> 00:48:05.050
  • ONTO THESE SILENT YEARS WHERE
  • 00:48:05.110 --> 00:48:08.110
  • NOBODY KNOWS WHO YOU ARE, AND
  • 00:48:08.110 --> 00:48:09.020
  • NOBODY CARES, BUT GOD'S STILL
  • 00:48:09.020 --> 00:48:11.210
  • WATCHIN' AND IS BEIN' FAITHFUL
  • 00:48:11.210 --> 00:48:12.130
  • IN THOSE YEARS THAT MAKE THE
  • 00:48:12.130 --> 00:48:13.140
  • DIFFERENCE.
  • 00:48:13.140 --> 00:48:15.110
  • - MATT: AND, INTERESTING, JESUS
  • 00:48:15.110 --> 00:48:16.250
  • WAS THE LAMB SLAIN BEFORE THE
  • 00:48:16.250 --> 00:48:18.060
  • FOUNDATION OF THE EARTH AND THEN
  • 00:48:18.060 --> 00:48:19.080
  • LIVED 33 YEARS.
  • 00:48:19.080 --> 00:48:22.000
  • ANYWAY, THE IDEA THAT SOMEBODY
  • 00:48:22.000 --> 00:48:24.230
  • WANTS A SHORTCUT IS PREVALENT
  • 00:48:24.230 --> 00:48:26.190
  • LET'S BE AT LEAST HONEST.
  • 00:48:30.140 --> 00:48:32.000
  • GOD CAN DO THE MIRACULOUS AT ANY
  • 00:48:32.000 --> 00:48:34.090
  • TIME.
  • 00:48:34.090 --> 00:48:35.240
  • THERE CAN BE INSTANTANEOUS
  • 00:48:35.240 --> 00:48:37.190
  • HEALINGS AND DELIVERANCES AND
  • 00:48:37.190 --> 00:48:39.110
  • SO GOD IS SOMETIMES CAPABLE OF
  • 00:48:42.050 --> 00:48:43.070
  • DOING ANYTHING AT ANY TIME, YOU
  • 00:48:43.070 --> 00:48:45.240
  • KNOW, WHETHER I LIKE IT OR NOT,
  • 00:48:45.240 --> 00:48:46.160
  • SO MIRACLES DO HAPPEN, AND I
  • 00:48:46.160 --> 00:48:48.240
  • GUESS AN INSTANTANEOUS MIRACLE
  • 00:48:49.140 --> 00:48:52.140
  • OF DELIVERANCE FROM FEAR IS A
  • 00:48:52.140 --> 00:48:53.240
  • SHORTCUT.
  • 00:48:53.240 --> 00:48:56.030
  • HOW DO WE RECONCILE THOSE TWO
  • 00:48:57.210 --> 00:49:00.230
  • UNIQUENESSES IN OUR WORLD IN THE
  • 00:49:00.230 --> 00:49:02.230
  • KINGDOM OF GOD HERE?
  • 00:49:02.230 --> 00:49:04.120
  • - JOYCE: WELL, FIRST OF ALL,
  • 00:49:04.120 --> 00:49:05.200
  • LET ME SAY, I DON'T THINK THAT
  • 00:49:05.200 --> 00:49:07.050
  • MIRACLES ARE GOD'S "NORMAL" WAY
  • 00:49:10.070 --> 00:49:13.070
  • OF WORKING.
  • 00:49:13.070 --> 00:49:14.220
  • THEY CERTAINLY ARE THERE.
  • 00:49:14.220 --> 00:49:15.290
  • YOU KNOW, AND, REALLY, I MEAN,
  • 00:49:16.100 --> 00:49:19.100
  • WE DEAL WITH MIRACLES ALL THE
  • 00:49:19.100 --> 00:49:20.160
  • TIME.
  • 00:49:20.160 --> 00:49:21.160
  • I MEAN, JUST, EVERYTHING IS A
  • 00:49:21.160 --> 00:49:22.260
  • MIRACLE, REALLY, BUT I SAID THE
  • 00:49:24.160 --> 00:49:27.160
  • ONLY DELIVERANCE THAT I'VE EVER
  • 00:49:27.160 --> 00:49:29.100
  • HAD, MIRACULOUS DELIVERANCE OUT
  • 00:49:29.100 --> 00:49:30.290
  • OF ALL THE PROBLEMS THAT I HAD,
  • 00:49:30.290 --> 00:49:33.000
  • THE ONLY MIRACULOUS DELIVERANCE
  • 00:49:33.050 --> 00:49:36.050
  • I'VE EVER HAD WAS FROM CHEWIN'
  • 00:49:36.050 --> 00:49:37.090
  • ON ICE CUBES.
  • 00:49:37.090 --> 00:49:39.000
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:49:39.000 --> 00:49:39.190
  • - MATT: I DIDN'T SEE THAT ONE
  • 00:49:39.240 --> 00:49:42.240
  • COMIN'.
  • 00:49:42.240 --> 00:49:43.090
  • - JOYCE: I HAD A BAD HABIT OF
  • 00:49:43.090 --> 00:49:46.090
  • CHEWIN' ON ICE ALL THE TIME, AND
  • 00:49:46.090 --> 00:49:47.240
  • DAVE TOLD ME, HE SAID, "JOYCE,
  • 00:49:47.240 --> 00:49:48.200
  • YOU'RE-- YOU KNOW, GOD'S
  • 00:49:48.200 --> 00:49:50.130
  • PROMOTING YOU, AND YOU'RE OUT
  • 00:49:51.010 --> 00:49:54.010
  • FOR DINNER WITH ALL THESE OTHER
  • 00:49:54.010 --> 00:49:55.130
  • PASTORS AND STUFF, AND YOU'RE
  • 00:49:55.130 --> 00:49:56.250
  • CHOMPIN' ON THAT ICE."
  • 00:49:56.250 --> 00:49:57.130
  • HE SAID, "IT JUST DOESN'T SOUND
  • 00:49:57.130 --> 00:49:58.170
  • GOOD."
  • 00:49:58.170 --> 00:50:00.060
  • WELL, I HAD SUCH A HABIT OF
  • 00:50:00.060 --> 00:50:01.150
  • DOING IT THAT I COULD NOT
  • 00:50:01.150 --> 00:50:03.120
  • BREAK IT, AND I ASKED
  • 00:50:03.120 --> 00:50:05.040
  • GOD TO DELIVER ME, AND I
  • 00:50:05.040 --> 00:50:06.020
  • REALIZED A COUPLE WEEKS LATER I
  • 00:50:06.020 --> 00:50:06.270
  • HADN'T CHEWED ON ANY ICE, AND I
  • 00:50:06.270 --> 00:50:09.210
  • THOUGHT, "OH, THAT'S WHAT A
  • 00:50:09.210 --> 00:50:10.140
  • MIRACLE FEELS LIKE," YOU KNOW?
  • 00:50:10.140 --> 00:50:11.100
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:50:11.100 --> 00:50:11.240
  • - JOYCE: BUT WHETHER IT WAS
  • 00:50:13.180 --> 00:50:14.290
  • GIVIN' UP CIGARETTES OR WHATEVER
  • 00:50:14.290 --> 00:50:17.090
  • IT WAS, I MEAN, I ALWAYS HAD TO
  • 00:50:17.090 --> 00:50:18.180
  • GET IT THE HARD WAY, HURTING,
  • 00:50:18.180 --> 00:50:21.120
  • BELIEVIN' GOD, AND BELIEVIN' MY
  • 00:50:21.120 --> 00:50:23.180
  • YOU KNOW, HANGIN' ONTO THE LEGS
  • 00:50:27.230 --> 00:50:28.150
  • OF THE FURNITURE TO KEEP FROM
  • 00:50:28.150 --> 00:50:29.060
  • RUNNIN' AWAY FROM GOD, BUT I
  • 00:50:29.060 --> 00:50:30.040
  • KNOW WHY NOW GOD DID IT THAT WAY
  • 00:50:30.040 --> 00:50:32.080
  • WITH ME BECAUSE HE WANTED ME TO
  • 00:50:32.080 --> 00:50:33.190
  • UNDERSTAND WHAT PEOPLE FEEL
  • 00:50:33.190 --> 00:50:36.060
  • LIKE.
  • 00:50:36.060 --> 00:50:36.230
  • HE WANTED ME TO UNDERSTAND WHAT
  • 00:50:36.230 --> 00:50:38.250
  • THEY GO THROUGH.
  • 00:50:38.250 --> 00:50:41.240
  • HE WANTED ME TO BE ABLE TO HAVE
  • 00:50:41.240 --> 00:50:42.290
  • COMPASSION, AND PEOPLE LIKE TO
  • 00:50:43.170 --> 00:50:46.170
  • HEAR FROM PEOPLE THAT THEY KNOW
  • 00:50:46.170 --> 00:50:48.120
  • REALLY GET IT, YOU KNOW, NOT
  • 00:50:48.120 --> 00:50:50.110
  • JUST SOMEBODY WHO BOUGHT A
  • 00:50:50.110 --> 00:50:52.040
  • SERMON BOOK AND WROTE DOWN SOME
  • 00:50:52.040 --> 00:50:53.200
  • NOTES.
  • 00:50:53.200 --> 00:50:55.010
  • - MATT: I ACTUALLY PREFER TO GO
  • 00:50:55.010 --> 00:50:56.040
  • TO A DOCTOR THAT WENT TO, YOU
  • 00:50:56.040 --> 00:50:57.260
  • KNOW, DOCTORS' SCHOOL, RATHER
  • 00:50:57.260 --> 00:50:59.010
  • THAN SOMEBODY THAT'S JUST
  • 00:50:59.010 --> 00:51:00.050
  • PLAYING ONE ON TV.
  • 00:51:00.050 --> 00:51:02.020
  • WE'RE TALKIN' ABOUT "THE
  • 00:51:02.020 --> 00:51:03.020
  • CONFIDENT WOMAN DEVOTIONAL."
  • 00:51:03.020 --> 00:51:04.080
  • IT'S A PROCESS.
  • 00:51:04.080 --> 00:51:06.100
  • GOD IS DELIVERING US AND-- OKAY,
  • 00:51:06.100 --> 00:51:08.170
  • WE'VE GOT A FEW MINUTES LEFT.
  • 00:51:08.170 --> 00:51:10.150
  • WHY DON'T YOU PUT A LITTLE BIT
  • 00:51:10.150 --> 00:51:12.030
  • OF A-- KIND OF A FINAL THOUGHTS,
  • 00:51:12.030 --> 00:51:14.050
  • AND I LOOK FORWARD TO HOW YOU'RE
  • 00:51:14.050 --> 00:51:16.090
  • GONNA PRAY FOR THIS BECAUSE GOD
  • 00:51:16.090 --> 00:51:17.180
  • CAN DO MIRACLES, BUT MOST OF THE
  • 00:51:17.180 --> 00:51:20.010
  • TIME HE'S EXPECTING US TO WORK
  • 00:51:20.060 --> 00:51:23.060
  • THROUGH.
  • 00:51:23.060 --> 00:51:24.270
  • - LAURIE: WELL, GOD CALLS US TO
  • 00:51:24.270 --> 00:51:25.230
  • WALK BY FAITH, YOU KNOW, AND
  • 00:51:25.230 --> 00:51:27.090
  • THAT'S ALWAYS TAKING THAT STEP,
  • 00:51:27.090 --> 00:51:28.250
  • AND THAT'S THE ONLY WAY WE
  • 00:51:28.250 --> 00:51:30.190
  • PLEASE GOD IS THAT IF WE TRUST
  • 00:51:30.190 --> 00:51:31.260
  • AND BELIEVE IN WHAT HE SAYS.
  • 00:51:31.260 --> 00:51:33.220
  • SO HE'S ALWAYS SAYING, "COME,
  • 00:51:33.220 --> 00:51:36.050
  • COME FOLLOW, COME," YOU KNOW,
  • 00:51:37.020 --> 00:51:40.020
  • AND SO IT'S LIKE, "YOU TAKE YOUR
  • 00:51:40.020 --> 00:51:42.070
  • STEP, AND THEN I'M STANDIN'
  • 00:51:42.070 --> 00:51:42.280
  • RIGHT THERE.
  • 00:51:42.280 --> 00:51:44.140
  • I'LL MEET YOU THERE."
  • 00:51:44.140 --> 00:51:47.030
  • BUT HE'S ALWAYS MOTIVATING
  • 00:51:47.030 --> 00:51:47.220
  • BECAUSE WE HAVE TO WANT
  • 00:51:47.220 --> 00:51:48.100
  • TO DO IT OURSELVES.
  • 00:51:48.100 --> 00:51:48.260
  • - JOYCE: LIKE, WHEN I WAS ON
  • 00:51:48.260 --> 00:51:49.260
  • THAT PLATFORM ALMOST 40 YEARS
  • 00:51:50.080 --> 00:51:53.080
  • AGO, I HAD TO TAKE A STEP, AND I
  • 00:51:53.150 --> 00:51:56.150
  • DON'T THINK WHEN I PRAY FOR
  • 00:51:57.060 --> 00:52:00.080
  • PEOPLE TO HAVE CONFIDENCE, I
  • 00:52:00.080 --> 00:52:01.240
  • DON'T EXPECT ANYBODY-- MAYBE MY
  • 00:52:01.240 --> 00:52:03.270
  • EXPECTATIONS ARE LOW TODAY, BUT
  • 00:52:03.270 --> 00:52:06.000
  • I DON'T EXPECT ANYBODY TO JUST
  • 00:52:06.000 --> 00:52:07.230
  • MIRACULOUSLY GET DOWNLOADED WITH
  • 00:52:07.230 --> 00:52:09.180
  • CONFIDENCE.
  • 00:52:09.180 --> 00:52:12.170
  • WHAT I'M GONNA PRAY IS THAT THEY
  • 00:52:12.170 --> 00:52:13.090
  • WILL HAVE ENOUGH CONFIDENCE IN
  • 00:52:13.130 --> 00:52:16.130
  • GOD TO STEP OUT WHEN GOD TELLS
  • 00:52:16.130 --> 00:52:18.270
  • THEM TO STEP OUT.
  • 00:52:19.070 --> 00:52:22.070
  • AND SO, YOU WANT ME TO WRAP THIS
  • 00:52:22.070 --> 00:52:24.150
  • UP, AND I THINK ONE THING THAT
  • 00:52:24.150 --> 00:52:25.220
  • IS IMPORTANT TO SAY IS I THINK A
  • 00:52:25.220 --> 00:52:26.280
  • LOT OF PEOPLE ARE AFRAID TO BE
  • 00:52:26.280 --> 00:52:29.200
  • CONFIDENT BECAUSE THEY THINK IT
  • 00:52:29.220 --> 00:52:32.220
  • WILL BE SEEN AS CONCEIT, AND SO
  • 00:52:32.220 --> 00:52:35.030
  • WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE, MAKE SURE
  • 00:52:37.140 --> 00:52:40.140
  • THAT YOU UNDERSTAND TODAY THAT
  • 00:52:40.140 --> 00:52:43.120
  • WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT
  • 00:52:43.120 --> 00:52:44.000
  • SELF-CONFIDENCE.
  • 00:52:44.000 --> 00:52:45.120
  • I'M NOT TALKING AT ALL ABOUT
  • 00:52:45.120 --> 00:52:47.130
  • SELF-CONFIDENCE.
  • 00:52:47.130 --> 00:52:48.250
  • IN MYSELF, I AM NOTHING AND CAN
  • 00:52:48.250 --> 00:52:51.210
  • DO NOTHING, BUT IN CHRIST WE CAN
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  • DO ALL THINGS.
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  • I LIKE TO SAY THAT WE'RE AN
  • 00:52:55.290 --> 00:52:58.000
  • "EVERYTHING-NOTHING," EVERYTHING
  • 00:52:59.070 --> 00:53:02.090
  • IN CHRIST, NOTHING IN OURSELVES,
  • 00:53:03.160 --> 00:53:06.160
  • AND I DO THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE,
  • 00:53:06.160 --> 00:53:07.230
  • THEY'RE AFRAID TO BE CONFIDENT
  • 00:53:07.230 --> 00:53:08.140
  • BECAUSE THEY THINK THAT IT WILL,
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  • YOU KNOW, COME ACROSS AS BEING
  • 00:53:10.120 --> 00:53:12.070
  • CONCEITED, AND THEY'VE HEARD THE
  • 00:53:12.070 --> 00:53:13.150
  • MESSAGES ON HUMILITY AND ARE
  • 00:53:13.150 --> 00:53:14.190
  • AFRAID TO BE CONFIDENT, BUT BACK
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  • TO WHAT YOU SAID EARLIER ABOUT
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  • "CONFIDENCE INSPIRES CONFIDENCE
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  • IN OTHERS," I HAD A SECRETARY
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  • ONE TIME THAT SHE WAS BRILLIANT,
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  • BUT SHE DIDN'T HAVE ANY
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  • CONFIDENCE.
  • 00:53:28.180 --> 00:53:30.210
  • SHE WAS AFRAID, AND SO I DIDN'T
  • 00:53:30.210 --> 00:53:33.040
  • HAVE ANY CONFIDENCE IN HER
  • 00:53:33.040 --> 00:53:34.270
  • BECAUSE SHE DIDN'T HAVE ANY
  • 00:53:34.270 --> 00:53:36.090
  • CONFIDENCE, BUT IT'S AMAZING IF
  • 00:53:36.090 --> 00:53:37.240
  • PEOPLE, LIKE, IF I ASKED
  • 00:53:37.240 --> 00:53:40.070
  • SOMEBODY TO DO SOMETHIN' AND
  • 00:53:40.070 --> 00:53:41.150
  • THEY DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO IT AND
  • 00:53:41.150 --> 00:53:42.190
  • THEY SAY, "I'LL FIGURE IT OUT,"
  • 00:53:42.190 --> 00:53:44.020
  • "I'LL FIND OUT," THEN I'M
  • 00:53:44.020 --> 00:53:45.270
  • WILLING TO TRUST THEM AND LET
  • 00:53:45.270 --> 00:53:48.010
  • 'EM TRY ALL KINDS OF NEW THINGS,
  • 00:53:48.010 --> 00:53:49.100
  • BUT IF YOU SAY SOMETHIN' TO
  • 00:53:49.100 --> 00:53:51.020
  • SOMEONE AND RIGHT AWAY THEY'RE
  • 00:53:51.020 --> 00:53:52.050
  • LIKE-- YOU KNOW, THEN YOU THINK,
  • 00:53:52.050 --> 00:53:53.110
  • "MM, GOT THE WRONG PERSON HERE."
  • 00:53:53.110 --> 00:53:54.170
  • SO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S LOTS OF
  • 00:53:54.170 --> 00:53:56.130
  • SCRIPTURES THAT TALK ABOUT NOT
  • 00:53:56.130 --> 00:53:58.280
  • OVERESTIMATING OURSELVES AND NOT
  • 00:53:58.280 --> 00:54:01.090
  • THINKING TOO HIGHLY OF
  • 00:54:01.090 --> 00:54:03.250
  • OURSELVES, SO YOU ALWAYS HAVE TO
  • 00:54:03.250 --> 00:54:05.100
  • MAKE SURE THAT YOU THINK ABOUT
  • 00:54:05.100 --> 00:54:06.020
  • IT IN CHRIST.
  • 00:54:06.020 --> 00:54:09.000
  • PAUL SAID, "PUT NO CONFIDENCE IN
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  • THE FLESH BUT ONLY IN CHRIST
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  • JESUS," SO OUR CONFIDENCE HAS TO
  • 00:54:15.140 --> 00:54:16.280
  • BE IN HIM.
  • 00:54:16.280 --> 00:54:18.180
  • ARE YOU READY FOR ME TO PRAY
  • 00:54:18.180 --> 00:54:19.210
  • NOW?
  • 00:54:19.210 --> 00:54:20.070
  • - MATT: I AM.
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  • - JOYCE: ALL RIGHT.
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  • WELL, FATHER, WE PRAY FOR
  • 00:54:21.140 --> 00:54:23.180
  • EVERYONE WATCHING, AND
  • 00:54:23.180 --> 00:54:24.290
  • OURSELVES, THAT WE WILL BE
  • 00:54:24.290 --> 00:54:26.150
  • CONFIDENT.
  • 00:54:26.150 --> 00:54:28.060
  • I'M NOT PRAYING FOR PEOPLE TO
  • 00:54:28.060 --> 00:54:29.000
  • FEEL CONFIDENT.
  • 00:54:29.000 --> 00:54:30.130
  • THAT'S NICE IF YOU GIVE US THAT
  • 00:54:30.130 --> 00:54:32.050
  • AS A BYPRODUCT, BUT I KNOW THAT
  • 00:54:32.050 --> 00:54:35.040
  • YOU WANT US TO BE CONFIDENT BY
  • 00:54:35.040 --> 00:54:36.290
  • FAITH, BELIEVING THAT YOU'RE
  • 00:54:36.290 --> 00:54:39.020
  • GOOD, THAT YOU WILL NEVER LEAVE
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  • US NOR FORSAKE US.
  • 00:54:41.030 --> 00:54:42.160
  • IT'S REALLY ALL ABOUT YOU, AND
  • 00:54:42.160 --> 00:54:43.180
  • IT'S ABOUT US BELIEVING THAT,
  • 00:54:43.180 --> 00:54:46.090
  • WITH YOU, WE CAN DO ALL THINGS.
  • 00:54:47.190 --> 00:54:50.190
  • ANYTHING THAT YOU WANT US TO DO,
  • 00:54:50.190 --> 00:54:52.130
  • IF WE CONTINUE LEANING ON YOU
  • 00:54:52.130 --> 00:54:55.060
  • AND ABIDING IN YOU, WE WILL BE
  • 00:54:55.060 --> 00:54:56.230
  • ABLE TO DO IT.
  • 00:54:56.230 --> 00:54:58.190
  • SO HELP PEOPLE PUT ALL THEIR
  • 00:54:58.190 --> 00:55:00.100
  • CONFIDENCE IN YOU AND BE WILLING
  • 00:55:00.100 --> 00:55:01.070
  • TO STEP OUT.
  • 00:55:01.070 --> 00:55:03.050
  • HELP THEM BE WILLING TO BE WRONG
  • 00:55:03.050 --> 00:55:06.010
  • IN ORDER TO FIND OUT IF THEY'RE
  • 00:55:06.010 --> 00:55:07.070
  • RIGHT.
  • 00:55:07.070 --> 00:55:07.240
  • WE THANK YOU, GOD, THAT YOU'RE
  • 00:55:07.240 --> 00:55:08.260
  • ALWAYS A GOD OF A SECOND CHANCE
  • 00:55:08.260 --> 00:55:09.210
  • AND A THIRD, AND HOWEVER MANY WE
  • 00:55:09.210 --> 00:55:11.160
  • NEED.
  • 00:55:11.160 --> 00:55:12.180
  • WE NEVER FAIL UNLESS WE QUIT
  • 00:55:12.180 --> 00:55:14.150
  • TRYING.
  • 00:55:14.150 --> 00:55:15.120
  • SO WE THANK YOU FOR HELPIN' US
  • 00:55:15.120 --> 00:55:17.200
  • TODAY, IN JESUS'S NAME, AMEN.
  • 00:55:17.200 --> 00:55:19.040
  • - LAURIE: AMEN.
  • 00:55:19.040 --> 00:55:20.210
  • - MATT: AMEN.
  • 00:55:20.210 --> 00:55:21.060
  • WE ARE OFFERING-- THE 800 NUMBER
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  • IS ON THE SCREEN-- "THE
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  • CONFIDENT WOMAN DEVOTIONAL."
  • 00:55:25.120 --> 00:55:27.110
  • AND, JOYCE MEYER, THANK YOU,
  • 00:55:27.110 --> 00:55:29.080
  • FIRST OF ALL, FOR PUTTING 365
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  • DAILY INSPIRATIONS, "NEW YORK
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  • TIMES" NUMBER ONE BEST-SELLING
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  • AUTHOR, "THE CONFIDENT WOMAN
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  • THE 800 NUMBER IS ON THE SCREEN.
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  • IT'S AVAILABLE FOR YOU.
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  • THOSE OPERATORS ARE SPECIAL
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  • OPERATORS THAT ARE WAITING RIGHT
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  • NOW FOR THIS EXACT OFFER, AND
  • 00:55:47.060 --> 00:55:48.030
  • THAT NUMBER ON YOUR SCREEN IS
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  • FOR YOU RIGHT NOW.
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  • GO TO THE PHONE AND GET THIS
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  • RESOURCE, "THE CONFIDENT WOMAN
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  • THANK YOU.
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  • - JOYCE: THANK YOU.
  • 00:55:59.260 --> 00:56:00.140
  • - MATT: BEAUTIFUL AFTERNOON
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  • HERE IN SOUTH FLORIDA, KIND OF
  • 00:56:01.060 --> 00:56:02.080
  • YOUR PART OF YOUR COUNTRY.
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  • WE WILL SEE YOU NEXT TIME.
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