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Praise | January 11, 2018

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January 11, 2018
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Matt & Laurie Crouch host The Spark Conference with Joel & Victoria Osteen, John & Aventer Gray, Clayton & Ashlee Hurst and Robert & Taylor Madu.

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Praise | January 11, 2018

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  • [ MUSIC ]
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  • - FEMALE ANNOUNCER: COMING UP ON PRAISE...
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  • - MATT CROUCH: WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MARRIAGE.
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  • - ANNOUNCER: IT'S THE SPARK MARRIAGE CONFERENCE
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  • AT LAKEWOOD CHURCH.
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  • - WE HAVE TAYLOR AND ROBERT MADU.
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  • - ROBERT MADU: WE'LL POVERTY A PICTURE AND
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  • SOMEBODY WILL COMMENT, AWW!
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  • WE JUST WANT WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE.
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  • - TAYLOR MADU: YOU DON'T KNOW US.
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  • YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT WE HAVE.
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  • - THE DAY WE GOT MARRIED, ALL THESE OTHER
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  • MARRIAGE EXPERTS COME INTO YOUR LIFE.
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  • SIR, YOU SHOULD DO THIS.
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  • SIR, THIS NEEDS TO HAPPEN IN YOUR LIFE.
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  • NO, DON'T GO THERE.
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  • GO HERE.
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  • - ANNOUNCER: FIND OUT HOW YOU CAN STEER YOUR
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  • MARRIAGE TO THE RIGHT DIRECTION WITH ROBERT
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  • AND TAYLOR MADU.
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  • - I KNEW FROM DAY ONE THAT THAT WAS GOING TO BE
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  • MY BABY DADDY.
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  • - ANNOUNCER: NEXT ON PRAISE!
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  • [ MUSIC ]
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  • [ MUSIC ]
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  • [ APPLAUSE ]
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  • - MATT CROUCH: WOW!
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  • WELCOME TO SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA.
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  • WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MARRIAGE.
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  • SPARK CONFERENCE.
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  • JOEL, WHY IS ALL OF THIS IMPORTANT?
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  • - JOEL OSTEEN: WELL, YOU KNOW, MATT, THERE'S SO
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  • MANY THINGS COMING AGAINST OUR MARRIAGES AND
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  • RELATIONSHIPS TODAY, SO WE BELIEVE THAT WITH THE
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  • RIGHT TEACHING, WITH THE RIGHT PERSPECTIVE THAT WE
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  • CAN HAVE STRONG HEALTHY MARRIAGES AND NOT LET THE
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  • ENEMY TAKE OVER AND PASS DOWN THE LEGACY OF HEALTH
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  • AND WHOLENESS IN OUR RELATIONSHIPS, SO THAT'S
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  • WHAT THIS CONFERENCE IS ALL ABOUT IS HELPING US ALL.
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  • DOESN'T MEAN YOU HAVE TO HAVE A BAD MARRIAGE, BUT
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  • WE CAN ALL IMPROVE, SO WE'RE GAINING INSIGHT
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  • FROM THESE POWERFUL MINISTERS THAT WE HAVE ON
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  • WITH US TODAY.
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  • SO BLESSED TO BE HERE WITH YOU GUYS.
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  • - MATT CROUCH: VICTORIA.
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  • - VICTORIA OSTEEN: YEAH, I'M EXCITED ABOUT THE
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  • SPARK CONFERENCE BECAUSE I KNOW THAT IT'S GOING
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  • TO CHANGE ME.
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  • - YEAH.
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  • - AND I THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT THING ABOUT
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  • MARRIAGE IS TO LOOK AT OURSELVES FIRST, AND WHEN
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  • WE BECOME EVERYTHING THAT GOD WANTS US TO BE, THEN
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  • WE REFLECT HIS GLORY ON OUR SPOUSE.
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  • AND SO THAT'S WHAT'S SO IMPORTANT.
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  • SOMETIMES WE WANT TO CHANGE THE OTHER PERSON.
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  • IF THEY'LL CHANGE, THEN I'LL BE HAPPY, BUT THE
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  • TRUTH IS, YOU KNOW WHAT?
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  • WE NEED TO FIRST BE HAPPY, AND THEN
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  • LOVE OUR SPOUSES.
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  • AND I'VE NOTICED THIS WITH JOEL AND I, THE MORE
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  • I LOVE HIM THE MORE HE LOVES ME.
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  • - WOW.
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  • - YOU KNOW, THE MORE I'M MEAN TO HIM AND COMPLAIN
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  • TO HIM, DO YOU KNOW WHAT?
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  • IT AFFECTS HIM, AND HE DOES THE SAME TO ME.
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  • SO I LOVE THE FACT THAT MARRIAGE STARTS WITH ME,
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  • YOU KNOW.
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  • IT STARTS WITH ME, AND WHAT I SHOW HIM I ALWAYS
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  • GET BACK, AND I THINK THAT'S SO IMPORTANT.
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  • AND THAT'S WHAT I BELIEVE THAT THIS WILL HELP US
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  • AND TEACH US.
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  • AND YOU KNOW WHAT?
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  • THE BIBLE SAYS WHEN YOU GIVE, IT WILL BE GIVEN
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  • BACK TO YOU.
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  • - WE ARE TALKING ABOUT MARRIAGE.
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  • WE ARE TALKING ABOUT -IF YOU'RE SINGLE, IF YOU'RE
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  • MARRIED, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
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  • THE SUBJECT MATTER OF MARRIAGE IS
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  • SUPER IMPORTANT.
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  • MARRIED PEOPLE, WAVE YOUR HAND.
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  • WAVE YOUR HAND BIG.
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  • KIND OF -- SINGLE, WAVE BIG.
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  • BIG WAVE.
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  • [ CHEERS ]
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  • YOU SEE THE SINGLE PEOPLE WHOOP AND HOLLER, AND THE
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  • MARRIED PEOPLE DON'T, YOU KNOW [ LAUGHTER ] THEY'RE
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  • LIKE YEAH, I'M MARRIED.
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  • OKAY, SO JOHN AND AVENTER, WE'RE TALKING
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  • ABOUT MARRIAGE.
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  • HOW DOES IT WORK FOR YOU GUYS?
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  • HOW DO YOU WANT TO GET THIS STARTED?
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  • - JOHN GRAY: WELL, WE ARE SIX WHOLE YEARS --
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  • - AVENTER GRAY: YEAH!
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  • - COME ON!
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  • - SIX AND A HALF YEARS.
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  • - WE MIGHT BE THE BABIES.
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  • - YEAH, WE'RE THE BABIES.
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  • WE'RE THE FRESHMEN.
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  • WHAT I'VE LEARNED IS THAT MARRIAGE IS GOD'S ASSAULT
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  • ON SELFISHNESS.
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  • AND WHAT GOD IS SEEKING TO DO IS NOT TO BUILD
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  • SOMETHING WITH TWO PEOPLE, BUT HE'S MAKING
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  • ONE THING, AND HE'S PRUNING THE TWO
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  • INDIVIDUALS UNTIL THEY BECOME ONE.
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  • - RIGHT.
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  • - SO I DON'T GET TO KEEP ALL OF WHO I WAS WHEN I
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  • WAS SINGLE, AND THAT'S THE CHALLENGE OF TWO
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  • BECOMING ONE FLESH.
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  • AND THAT FOR ME WAS BIG BECAUSE I WAS 37 WHEN I
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  • GOT MARRIED, SO I WAS ALREADY VERY MUCH WHO I
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  • WAS, AND I WAS REALLY AVERSE TO CHANGE, AND GOD
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  • SAYS, I GOT A TRICK FOR YOU.
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  • [ LAUGHTER ]
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  • I'M GOING TO BRING SOMETHING SOFT TO SHARPEN
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  • YOU, SO HE BRINGS THIS BRILLIANT WOMEN WITH ALL
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  • THIS LOVE AND ALL THIS GRACE AND ALL THESE
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  • GIFTS, AND I FALL IN LOVE.
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  • - YEAH.
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  • - AND NOW I'M GA, GA, GA!
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  • [ LAUGHTER ]
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  • - THANK YOU.
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  • - AND NOW WITHOUT ASKING AND WITHOUT REALLY
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  • WANTING TO, I'M BEGINNING TO MATURE AND GROW, AND
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  • MY HEART IS BEGINNING TO EXPAND, AND I SEE LIFE
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  • THROUGH A DIFFERENT LENS.
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  • AND SO FOR ME IT WAS GOD SAYING IT'S TIME TO GROW UP.
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  • IT'S TIME TO THINK ABOUT LEGACY, AND IT'S TIME TO
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  • BUILD SOMETHING THAT OUTLASTS YOU, AND THAT'S
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  • WHAT MARRIAGE IS.
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  • IT'S A GLIMPSE INTO HEAVEN THROUGH THE LENS
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  • OF COVENANT.
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  • - COME ON WITH IT!
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  • [ APPLAUSE ]
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  • - WHAT DO YOU WANT TO SAY ABOUT
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  • MARRIAGE, AVENTER ?
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  • - I REALLY THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO
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  • UNDERSTAND THAT YOU DO NOT BECOME ONE THE MOMENT
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  • YOU SAY I DO.
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  • IT'S A CONSTANT STATE OF BECOMING BETWEEN TWO PEOPLE.
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  • YOU'RE ALWAYS BECOMING.
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  • THE FRESHNESS OF A RELATIONSHIP THAT LASTS
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  • FOR A LONG TIME IS WAKING UP SAYING WHAT CAN I
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  • LEARN NEW ABOUT THIS PERSON THAT I CHOSE?
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  • AND UNDERSTANDING THAT WE'RE EVER CHANGING.
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  • WE'RE EVOLVING.
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  • AND JUST MEETING EACH OTHER WHERE WE ARE.
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  • AND STAYING CONSISTENT IN THE WORD BECAUSE YOU NEED
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  • WORD RESERVE TO MAKE SURE THE MARRIAGE LASTS FOR SURE.
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  • - LAURIE CROUCH: FOR SURE.
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  • - I ENJOY TRYING TO BECOME WITH JOHN, AND HE
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  • CAN BECOME MULTIPLE PEOPLE AT ANY GIVEN
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  • MOMENT [ LAUGHTER ] SO IT IS A CHALLENGE BUT IT'S A
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  • BEAUTIFUL ONE THAT I HAVE EMBRACED.
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  • YOU HAVE TO EMBRACE THE PERSON THAT GOD BLESSED
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  • YOU WITH, AND ALL THE FACETS THAT THEY ARE
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  • BLESSED WITH YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO BRING THEM IN
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  • AND ENJOY THEM BECAUSE SOMETIMES JOHN GETS ON MY
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  • NERVES A LOT.
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  • [ LAUGHTER ]
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  • - RIGHT.
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  • - LIKE A LOT. ALL THE TIME.
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  • - BUT YOU CAN'T STAY MAD AT ME BECAUSE I MAKE YOU LAUGH.
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  • - BUT I CAN'T STAY MAD TOO LONG BECAUSE -AND
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  • IT'S SO UNFAIR, YOU KNOW.
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  • IT'S SO UNFAIR THAT HE CAN JOKE HIS WAY
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  • OUT OF ANYTHING.
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  • BUT THAT IS WHO GOD MADE HIM, AND I LOVE HIM, AND
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  • I HAVE TO REMEMBER IN THOSE MOMENTS WHERE WE
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  • BUMP HEADS WHY WE CAME TOGETHER IN THE
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  • BEGINNING, AND IF WE CAN ALWAYS REMEMBER WHY WE
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  • CAME TOGETHER, THEN IT SHOULD BE EASY TO GET
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  • BACK TO THAT PLACE WHEN HARDSHIPS ARISE.
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  • - SEE, THE KEY IS CHOICE.
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  • WHAT SHE SAID IS THE PERSON YOU CHOSE BECAUSE
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  • SOMETIMES IN CERTAIN SEGMENTS OF CHRISTIAN
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  • THOUGHT, THIS IDEA GETS IN OUR HEAD GOD,
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  • I NEED THE ONE.
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  • SHOW ME THE ONE, JESUS.
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  • AND WHEN YOU SINGLE, YOU GOT A LONG LIST.
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  • IT'S LIKE LORD, THEY NEED TO BE X, Y, AND Z.
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  • WOMEN LIKE HE NEEDS TO BE 6'3, LIGHT EYES,
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  • SIX PACK.
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  • HE NEEDS TO HAVE $300.000 IN THE BANK.
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  • AND THEN YOU GET 35, YOU'RE LIKE LORD, JUST
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  • LET HIM HAVE ONE GOOD LEG [ LAUGHTER ] RUNNY EYE, HAIR.
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  • SEND ME SOMEBODY, JESUS!
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  • - IT'S LIKE AT THIS POINT WHOSOEVER WILL, LET
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  • HIM COME AT THIS POINT.
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  • - THE IDEA IS I CHOSE HER [ LAUGHTER ] AND THE
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  • FIRST ARGUMENT TO HAPPEN IN THE GARDEN ADAM WAS
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  • LIKE, THIS WOMAN YOU GAVE.
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  • - RIGHT.
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  • - AS OPPOSED TO SAYING THIS IS THE CHOICE I MADE.
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  • AND SO WHAT I REALIZED WE'RE NOT GOING TO AGREE
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  • AND GOD DOESN'T WANT ME TO AGREE.
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  • HE GAVE ME SOMETHING AND SOMEONE DIFFERENT
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  • TO ACTUALLY --
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  • - STRETCH.
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  • - GROW ME UP AND TO BUILD ME INTO THE MAN HE
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  • WANTS ME TO BE.
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  • HE KNEW EXACTLY WHAT HE WAS DOING WHEN HE PUT HER
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  • IN MY VISION.
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  • [ APPLAUSE ]
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  • - AMEN.
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  • - COME ON WITH IT.
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  • YOU KNOW WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, GUYS, IS
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  • WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MARRIAGE, AND THERE'S
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  • LITERALLY NOTHING MORE IMPORTANT, YOU KNOW.
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  • I MEAN, IT LITERALLY IS WHAT CAUSES HUMANITY TO
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  • KEEP GOING, MARRIAGE, PRO CREATION, A MAN
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  • AND A WOMAN.
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  • LOOK, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT -- AND LET ME TELL YOU THAT
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  • THE WIDE SHOT OF THIS STAGE WITH THIS GROUP
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  • WHAT IS THE COMMON THREAD HERE IS THAT THESE ARE
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  • ALL PASTORS OF LAKEWOOD CHURCH.
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  • THE SENIOR PASTOR, THE ASSOCIATE PASTOR, THE
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  • MARRIAGE AND YOUNG FAMILY, PARENTING AND ALL THAT.
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  • WE ARE NOT PASTORS, YOU KNOW.
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  • I MEAN, AT SOME POINT.
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  • YOU GUYS ARE ALL PASTORS, AND SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO
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  • WEIGH IN WITH A BUNCH OF MARRIAGE ADVICE AND
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  • COUNSEL OTHER PEOPLE.
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  • BUT THERE WAS ONE VERY UNIQUE EXPERIENCE FOR ME,
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  • AND I DON'T -ALL I CAN DO IS JUST TELL YOU IT WAS
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  • LIKE A DAYDREAM, OKAY.
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  • IT WASN'T -I WAS RUNNING ON MULHOLLAND.
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  • WE USED TO LIVE IN LOS ANGELES, SO I WAS
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  • RUNNING, AND IT FELT LIKE THE LORD JUST SAID TO ME,
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  • I DIDN'T CALL YOU.
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  • AND HE KIND OF -AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW HOW EXPLAIN
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  • A DAYDREAM.
  • 00:08:21.170 --> 00:08:22.250
  • I'M JUST TELLING YOU IT WAS A DAYDREAM.
  • 00:08:22.270 --> 00:08:24.030
  • SO IT WAS LIKE, I DIDN'T CALL YOU, AND HE HAD ONE
  • 00:08:24.050 --> 00:08:25.200
  • FINGER POINTED AT ME, AND THEN HE SAID, I CALLED YOU.
  • 00:08:25.220 --> 00:08:29.280
  • SO HE SAID, I DIDN'T CALL YOU, I CALLED YOU.
  • 00:08:30.000 --> 00:08:33.000
  • AND IN THE DAYDREAM LAURIE WAS THEN NEXT TO
  • 00:08:33.020 --> 00:08:35.110
  • ME, OKAY.
  • 00:08:35.130 --> 00:08:36.210
  • SO IT WAS AS IF TO SAY YOUR DESTINY ISN'T
  • 00:08:36.230 --> 00:08:41.090
  • ABOUT JUST YOU.
  • 00:08:41.110 --> 00:08:44.290
  • YOUR DESTINY IS ABOUT YOU.
  • 00:08:45.010 --> 00:08:48.080
  • - THAT'S GREAT.
  • 00:08:48.100 --> 00:08:49.250
  • - SO I WOULDN'T BE THE PERSON I AM WITHOUT HER.
  • 00:08:49.270 --> 00:08:53.020
  • [ APPLAUSE ]
  • 00:08:53.040 --> 00:08:55.030
  • - CLAYTON AND ASHLEE, WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO SAY
  • 00:08:55.050 --> 00:08:58.240
  • ABOUT MARRIAGE?
  • 00:08:58.260 --> 00:09:00.230
  • - CLAYTON HURST: YOU KNOW, WHEN PASTOR AND
  • 00:09:00.250 --> 00:09:05.180
  • VICTORIA ASKED US TO STEP IN AND RUN WITH MARRIAGE
  • 00:09:05.200 --> 00:09:07.100
  • AND PARENTING, WE DIDN'T WANT TO ASSUME THAT
  • 00:09:07.120 --> 00:09:08.290
  • EVERYBODY WAS HAVING CHALLENGES LIKE WE USED
  • 00:09:09.010 --> 00:09:10.070
  • TO BECAUSE WHEN WE FIRST GOT MARRIED, WE ARE THE
  • 00:09:10.090 --> 00:09:12.060
  • SOPHOMORES, WE'VE BEEN MARRIED 21 YEARS -
  • 00:09:12.080 --> 00:09:14.200
  • [ APPLAUSE ] SO WE REALLY STRUGGLED.
  • 00:09:14.220 --> 00:09:20.070
  • WE REALLY STRUGGLED THE FIRST FIVE YEARS OF
  • 00:09:20.090 --> 00:09:21.150
  • OUR MARRIAGE.
  • 00:09:21.170 --> 00:09:22.250
  • - ASHLEE : YEAH.
  • 00:09:22.270 --> 00:09:24.030
  • - AND IT WAS COMMUNICATION, AND SO WE
  • 00:09:24.050 --> 00:09:25.210
  • DECIDED TO SEND OUT AN E-MAIL TO I THINK THERE
  • 00:09:25.230 --> 00:09:27.200
  • WAS ABOUT 15.000 ON OUR E-MAIL LIST FOR THE
  • 00:09:27.220 --> 00:09:30.070
  • CHURCH THAT WERE MARRIED, AND WE JUST ASKED THEM
  • 00:09:30.090 --> 00:09:32.140
  • SOME QUESTIONS, WHAT ARE YOU STRUGGLING WITH?
  • 00:09:32.160 --> 00:09:34.030
  • WHAT ARE SOME CHALLENGES THAT YOU'RE FACING?
  • 00:09:34.050 --> 00:09:36.160
  • THE NUMBER ONE, 98% RESPONDED WAS
  • 00:09:36.180 --> 00:09:39.230
  • COMMUNICATION WAS THEIR NUMBER ONE.
  • 00:09:39.250 --> 00:09:41.160
  • SO IT IS THAT EVER BECOMING.
  • 00:09:41.180 --> 00:09:43.100
  • WE'RE CONSTANTLY LEARNING HOW TO COMMUNICATE WITH
  • 00:09:43.120 --> 00:09:45.090
  • EACH OTHER, YOU KNOW.
  • 00:09:45.110 --> 00:09:46.200
  • AND IT IS A CHOICE EVERY SINGLE DAY.
  • 00:09:46.220 --> 00:09:48.200
  • I CHOOSE TO LOVE HER EVERY SINGLE DAY.
  • 00:09:48.220 --> 00:09:51.110
  • I CHOOSE TO CHERISH HER EVERY SINGLE DAY.
  • 00:09:51.130 --> 00:09:53.140
  • AND WE WORK ON OUR COMMUNICATION CONSTANTLY.
  • 00:09:53.160 --> 00:09:55.210
  • - YEAH.
  • 00:09:55.230 --> 00:09:57.000
  • A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK LOVE IS A FEELING, BUT
  • 00:09:57.020 --> 00:09:57.260
  • IT'S A CHOICE.
  • 00:09:57.280 --> 00:09:59.020
  • IT'S ALSO A COMMAND.
  • 00:09:59.040 --> 00:10:00.150
  • JESUS TOLD US TO LOVE ONE ANOTHER.
  • 00:10:00.170 --> 00:10:02.090
  • IT'S A COMMAND FROM GOD, AND YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE
  • 00:10:02.110 --> 00:10:05.070
  • THINGS I'VE LEARNED OVER THE YEARS IS THAT
  • 00:10:05.090 --> 00:10:06.280
  • MARRIAGE ISN'T ABOUT HAPPINESS.
  • 00:10:07.000 --> 00:10:08.180
  • IT'S ABOUT HOLINESS.
  • 00:10:08.200 --> 00:10:10.000
  • WHEN WE FIRST GOT MARRIED, HE MADE ME HAPPY
  • 00:10:10.020 --> 00:10:13.160
  • AND WE HAD FUN TOGETHER AND HE MADE ME FEEL SECURE.
  • 00:10:13.180 --> 00:10:15.200
  • BUT THEN FIVE YEARS INTO OUR MARRIAGE, I WASN'T
  • 00:10:15.220 --> 00:10:17.290
  • ALWAYS HAPPY.
  • 00:10:18.010 --> 00:10:19.170
  • HE DIDN'T MAKE ME HAPPY SOMETIMES.
  • 00:10:19.190 --> 00:10:21.050
  • AND I FELT VERY INSECURE ABOUT MYSELF AND ABOUT
  • 00:10:21.070 --> 00:10:22.280
  • OUR MARRIAGE, AND SO IT WAS LIKE, WHAT DO I DO NOW?
  • 00:10:23.000 --> 00:10:27.150
  • YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?
  • 00:10:27.170 --> 00:10:29.010
  • AND SO THANKFULLY WE FOUND SOME PEOPLE THAT
  • 00:10:29.030 --> 00:10:30.140
  • REALLY HELPED US, AND WE READ SOME REALLY GREAT
  • 00:10:30.160 --> 00:10:32.210
  • BOOKS, BUT OVER THE YEARS I FOUND THAT IT'S
  • 00:10:32.230 --> 00:10:34.290
  • ABOUT HOLINESS.
  • 00:10:35.010 --> 00:10:36.220
  • IT'S ABOUT GOD BRINGING THESE TWO PEOPLE TOGETHER
  • 00:10:36.240 --> 00:10:39.150
  • TO MAKE YOU ONE AND SHAVING OFF ALL THOSE
  • 00:10:39.170 --> 00:10:41.260
  • THINGS THAT YOU NEED TO GET RID OF.
  • 00:10:41.280 --> 00:10:44.020
  • I MEAN, WHO BETTER TO GET YOU TO THAT PLACE THAN
  • 00:10:44.040 --> 00:10:46.260
  • YOUR SPOUSE BECAUSE HE'S GOING TO EXPOSE
  • 00:10:46.280 --> 00:10:48.150
  • EVERYTHING THAT'S IN YOU THAT GOD WANTS TO
  • 00:10:48.170 --> 00:10:50.230
  • GET RID OF.
  • 00:10:50.250 --> 00:10:53.260
  • AND SO OVER THE LAST 21 YEARS -AND IT'S ONGOING.
  • 00:10:53.280 --> 00:10:56.040
  • WE THINK MARRIAGE IS AN ONGOING EDUCATION CLASS.
  • 00:10:56.060 --> 00:10:59.110
  • YOU CAN NEVER STOP LEARNING ABOUT MARRIAGE,
  • 00:10:59.130 --> 00:11:01.180
  • AND SO WE'RE ALWAYS LEARNING SOMETHING NEW,
  • 00:11:01.200 --> 00:11:03.190
  • YOU KNOW.
  • 00:11:03.210 --> 00:11:05.050
  • AND IT BRINGS US CLOSER TO THAT PLACE OF
  • 00:11:05.070 --> 00:11:06.080
  • HOLINESS WITH GOD.
  • 00:11:06.100 --> 00:11:07.140
  • - WOW. BEAUTIFUL.
  • 00:11:07.160 --> 00:11:08.280
  • YOUR THOUGHTS ON MARRIAGE BEFORE WE GO TO THE CLIP?
  • 00:11:09.000 --> 00:11:10.110
  • - I LOVE MARRIAGE!
  • 00:11:10.130 --> 00:11:12.060
  • [ LAUGHTER ]
  • 00:11:12.080 --> 00:11:13.030
  • - WHY? WHY?
  • 00:11:13.050 --> 00:11:14.200
  • - WHY?
  • 00:11:14.220 --> 00:11:15.250
  • - YEAH.
  • 00:11:15.270 --> 00:11:17.050
  • - BECAUSE LIKE JOEL SAID WE'RE BETTER TOGETHER,
  • 00:11:17.070 --> 00:11:19.070
  • AND I BELIEVE -- - YOU MEAN ME AND YOU?
  • 00:11:19.090 --> 00:11:22.110
  • - YES, JUST YOU AND ME.
  • 00:11:22.130 --> 00:11:23.240
  • [ LAUGHTER ]
  • 00:11:23.260 --> 00:11:25.130
  • - IT'S ALL GOOD.
  • 00:11:25.150 --> 00:11:26.220
  • BUT I'M SO LOOKING FORWARD TO YOU.
  • 00:11:26.240 --> 00:11:27.240
  • YOU STAY TUNED.
  • 00:11:27.260 --> 00:11:29.000
  • I KNOW GOD'S GOT SOMETHING FOR YOU RIGHT NOW.
  • 00:11:29.020 --> 00:11:30.240
  • - IT'S SPARK CONFERENCE LAKEWOOD CHURCH.
  • 00:11:30.260 --> 00:11:32.280
  • WATCH THIS.
  • 00:11:33.000 --> 00:11:34.000
  • [ MUSIC ]
  • 00:11:34.020 --> 00:11:36.200
  • - WHY ARE WE ATTENDING SPARK?
  • 00:11:36.220 --> 00:11:38.000
  • - I DON'T KNOW.
  • 00:11:38.020 --> 00:11:38.280
  • WHY ARE WE ATTENDING SPARK?
  • 00:11:39.000 --> 00:11:40.010
  • [ LAUGHTER ]
  • 00:11:40.030 --> 00:11:43.070
  • - SO THAT HE CAN BE EVEN BETTER AS A HUSBAND.
  • 00:11:43.090 --> 00:11:46.010
  • THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE.
  • 00:11:46.030 --> 00:11:47.200
  • [ LAUGHTER ]
  • 00:11:47.220 --> 00:11:49.000
  • - I'M NOT GIVING YOU MUCH TO WORK WITH.
  • 00:11:49.020 --> 00:11:50.010
  • I'M SWEATING.
  • 00:11:50.030 --> 00:11:51.180
  • - I THOUGHT THAT I WAS THE MORE SEXUAL ONE IN
  • 00:11:51.200 --> 00:11:53.080
  • THE RELATIONSHIP, BUT AS OUR RELATIONSHIP HAS EVOLVED --
  • 00:11:53.100 --> 00:11:56.260
  • - A LOT OF PRESSURE IN THIS ROOM.
  • 00:11:56.280 --> 00:11:59.110
  • THESE LIGHTS ARE GETTING HOT.
  • 00:11:59.130 --> 00:12:00.180
  • [ LAUGHTER ]
  • 00:12:00.200 --> 00:12:02.090
  • - I THINK I'M FINDING THAT WE'RE PRETTY EQUAL
  • 00:12:02.110 --> 00:12:04.220
  • WHEN IT COMES TO BEING SEXUAL.
  • 00:12:04.240 --> 00:12:06.280
  • - WOW!
  • 00:12:07.000 --> 00:12:08.130
  • I EVEN FORGOT THE QUESTION.
  • 00:12:08.150 --> 00:12:09.180
  • WHAT WAS THE QUESTION?
  • 00:12:09.200 --> 00:12:11.030
  • - SO WHAT DID YOU TELL ME I COULD SAY?
  • 00:12:11.050 --> 00:12:13.190
  • - WHY ARE YOU ASKING ME?
  • 00:12:13.210 --> 00:12:15.060
  • - I MEAN, WHO DOESN'T HAVE AN END TABLE IN
  • 00:12:15.080 --> 00:12:17.070
  • THEIR BEDROOM?
  • 00:12:17.090 --> 00:12:18.190
  • LIKE WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO KEEP YOUR LAMP?
  • 00:12:18.210 --> 00:12:21.050
  • - YOU CAN SAY WHATEVER YOU WANT.
  • 00:12:21.070 --> 00:12:22.010
  • - ALL RIGHT.
  • 00:12:22.030 --> 00:12:22.240
  • - GO.
  • 00:12:22.260 --> 00:12:23.230
  • - WE'LL SEE HOW THAT GOES.
  • 00:12:23.250 --> 00:12:24.290
  • [ CLEARS THROAT ]
  • 00:12:25.010 --> 00:12:26.090
  • [ LAUGHTER ]
  • 00:12:26.110 --> 00:12:27.160
  • - I MEAN, HE FARTS EVERY MORNING BEFORE HE GETS
  • 00:12:27.180 --> 00:12:28.210
  • OUT OF BED.
  • 00:12:28.230 --> 00:12:29.240
  • [ LOUD LAUGHTER ]
  • 00:12:29.260 --> 00:12:31.190
  • - IT WAS SUCH A SILLY ARGUMENT.
  • 00:12:31.210 --> 00:12:34.240
  • I CANNOT EVEN BELIEVE THAT YOU REMEMBER IT.
  • 00:12:34.260 --> 00:12:38.050
  • - THAT ONE DOESN'T HAVE TO MAKE IT, BUT THAT WAS
  • 00:12:38.070 --> 00:12:40.040
  • THE ONLY THING I COULD THINK OF.
  • 00:12:40.060 --> 00:12:42.030
  • SO INAPPROPRIATE, BUT WHATEVER.
  • 00:12:42.050 --> 00:12:43.210
  • [ LAUGHTER ]
  • 00:12:43.230 --> 00:12:45.150
  • - YOU PROBABLY THOUGHT YOU WERE GOING TO HAVE
  • 00:12:45.170 --> 00:12:47.130
  • SEX ON DEMAND.
  • 00:12:47.150 --> 00:12:48.230
  • THAT'S PROBABLY WHAT YOU THOUGHT.
  • 00:12:48.250 --> 00:12:50.090
  • - YOU CAN'T TELL THEM THAT.
  • 00:12:50.110 --> 00:12:51.220
  • - THE ONE THING I REALLY LIKED ABOUT VALERIE
  • 00:12:51.240 --> 00:12:53.210
  • BEFORE WE GOT MARRIED WAS HER FORTHRIGHTNESS.
  • 00:12:53.230 --> 00:12:56.270
  • SHE WAS VERY BLUNT AND IN CONVERSATION SHE WOULD
  • 00:12:56.290 --> 00:12:59.060
  • JUST SPEAK HER MIND.
  • 00:12:59.080 --> 00:13:00.200
  • AND THAT WAS GREAT.
  • 00:13:00.220 --> 00:13:01.150
  • LOVED IT.
  • 00:13:01.170 --> 00:13:02.250
  • - WHICH WAY ARE YOU GOING?
  • 00:13:02.270 --> 00:13:03.270
  • - THIS WAY.
  • 00:13:03.290 --> 00:13:04.290
  • [ LAUGHTER ]
  • 00:13:05.010 --> 00:13:06.230
  • - WELL, NOT NECESSARILY ON DEMAND, BUT I DIDN'T
  • 00:13:06.250 --> 00:13:10.070
  • THINK I HAD TO WORK SO HARD.
  • 00:13:10.090 --> 00:13:11.220
  • [ LAUGHTER ] DO NOT USE THAT.
  • 00:13:11.240 --> 00:13:14.090
  • THAT SHOULD END UP IN THE CUTTING ROOM FLOOR.
  • 00:13:14.110 --> 00:13:16.250
  • - THEN WE GOT MARRIED, AND SHE SPOKE HER MIND,
  • 00:13:16.270 --> 00:13:19.110
  • AND TYPICALLY IT WAS DIRECTED TOWARDS ME.
  • 00:13:19.130 --> 00:13:21.120
  • - I MIGHT NEED A RIDE HOME.
  • 00:13:21.140 --> 00:13:22.220
  • [ LAUGHTER ]
  • 00:13:22.240 --> 00:13:25.280
  • - IF YOU DON'T FEED YOUR MARRIAGE BY GOING TO
  • 00:13:26.000 --> 00:13:27.070
  • THINGS LIKE SPARK, GOING TO MARRIAGE CLASSES, YOU
  • 00:13:27.090 --> 00:13:30.010
  • KNOW, READING THE BOOKS AND STUFF YOU STARVE YOUR
  • 00:13:30.030 --> 00:13:31.210
  • MARRIAGE, AND YOUR MARRIAGE JUST WITHERS
  • 00:13:31.230 --> 00:13:33.210
  • ON THE VINE.
  • 00:13:33.230 --> 00:13:34.290
  • - IN MARRIAGE, YOU GOT TO CONSISTENTLY DIE TO
  • 00:13:35.010 --> 00:13:36.180
  • YOURSELF AND LOOK AFTER THE OTHER PERSON.
  • 00:13:36.200 --> 00:13:38.250
  • - HE'S THE ONE WITH THE GOOD ANSWERS.
  • 00:13:38.270 --> 00:13:41.160
  • - THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO JUST FEED MORE AND
  • 00:13:41.180 --> 00:13:44.050
  • MORE INTO OUR MARRIAGE AND HAVE THE TOOLS AND
  • 00:13:44.070 --> 00:13:47.000
  • RESOURCES THAT WE NEED TO CREATE A
  • 00:13:47.020 --> 00:13:48.210
  • MIRACULOUS MARRIAGE.
  • 00:13:48.230 --> 00:13:50.210
  • - I'M NOT EVEN SURE WE'D BE MARRIED STILL TO BE
  • 00:13:50.230 --> 00:13:53.190
  • HONEST WITH YOU, AND SO I'M VERY THANKFUL THAT WE
  • 00:13:53.210 --> 00:13:57.170
  • HAVE THIS AVAILABLE, AND I BELIEVE EVERYBODY
  • 00:13:57.190 --> 00:14:01.120
  • SHOULD BE HERE REALLY.
  • 00:14:01.140 --> 00:14:02.130
  • WE ALL NEED HELP.
  • 00:14:02.150 --> 00:14:03.230
  • WE'RE GOING ON 40 YEARS AND WE STILL NEED HELP.
  • 00:14:03.250 --> 00:14:05.170
  • - LOTS OF IT.
  • 00:14:05.190 --> 00:14:07.020
  • [ MUSIC ]
  • 00:14:07.040 --> 00:14:11.060
  • - AV, WHY DON'T YOU SHARE WITH THEM WHO'S
  • 00:14:11.080 --> 00:14:12.140
  • COMING UP NEXT.
  • 00:14:12.160 --> 00:14:13.160
  • - WE HAVE TAYLOR AND ROBERT MADU.
  • 00:14:13.180 --> 00:14:15.130
  • WE LOVE THEM.
  • 00:14:15.150 --> 00:14:16.190
  • THEY'RE AMAZING FRIENDS OF OURS.
  • 00:14:16.210 --> 00:14:18.050
  • TWO BEAUTIFUL BABIES AND ONE ON THE WAY.
  • 00:14:18.070 --> 00:14:20.010
  • THEY HAVE A LOT OF WISDOM AND KNOWLEDGE FOR US.
  • 00:14:20.030 --> 00:14:21.210
  • WELCOME TO SPARK TAYLOR AND ROBERT MADU.
  • 00:14:21.230 --> 00:14:25.190
  • [ APPLAUSE ]
  • 00:14:25.210 --> 00:14:26.280
  • - NICK NILSON: SO YOU CAN OFTEN WATCH MOVIES
  • 00:14:27.000 --> 00:14:29.090
  • AND ESPECIALLY ROMANTIC MOVIES WHERE THERE'S THIS
  • 00:14:29.110 --> 00:14:32.120
  • PURSUIT AND THERE'S THIS LEAD UP TO THE MOMENT
  • 00:14:32.140 --> 00:14:35.160
  • WHERE THE TWO GET MARRIED, AND TYPICAL
  • 00:14:35.180 --> 00:14:38.040
  • ROMANTIC MOVIES THE MOVIE ENDS WITH THE COUPLE
  • 00:14:38.060 --> 00:14:41.230
  • GETTING MARRIED, AND IT'S ALMOST AS IF THE BEST
  • 00:14:41.250 --> 00:14:45.170
  • PART OF THE STORY HAS HAPPENED, AND THEN YOU
  • 00:14:45.190 --> 00:14:48.070
  • SEE THE CREDITS ROLL AS IF THE PURSUIT AND THE
  • 00:14:48.090 --> 00:14:50.000
  • CATCH IS DONE.
  • 00:14:50.020 --> 00:14:51.280
  • AND WE ALL KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, BIBLICALLY WHEN THE
  • 00:14:52.000 --> 00:14:55.110
  • CEREMONY TAKES PLACE AND YOU STEP INTO COVENANT,
  • 00:14:55.130 --> 00:14:59.050
  • THAT'S WHEN THE CATCHING SHOULD REALLY
  • 00:14:59.070 --> 00:15:00.200
  • KICK UP A NOTCH.
  • 00:15:00.220 --> 00:15:02.070
  • THAT'S WHEN THE PURSUIT SHOULD REALLY IGNITE, AND
  • 00:15:02.090 --> 00:15:04.230
  • FOR Y'ALL WHAT DID THAT LOOK LIKE AFTER?
  • 00:15:04.250 --> 00:15:06.270
  • HOW DO YOU GUYS KEEP PURSUING EACH OTHER?
  • 00:15:06.290 --> 00:15:08.230
  • HOW DO YOU KEEP CATCHING EACH OTHER, YOU KNOW,
  • 00:15:08.250 --> 00:15:11.110
  • PER SE IN YOUR RELATIONSHIP?
  • 00:15:11.130 --> 00:15:12.210
  • WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE PRACTICALLY?
  • 00:15:12.230 --> 00:15:13.280
  • - ROBERT MADU: IT'S SO FUNNY YOU USED THE
  • 00:15:14.000 --> 00:15:15.180
  • ILLUSTRATION OF MOVIES BECAUSE WE JUST SAID THIS
  • 00:15:15.200 --> 00:15:17.050
  • THE OTHER DAY, IT'S SO FUNNY TO ME THAT IN FANTASIES
  • 00:15:17.070 --> 00:15:19.020
  • THERE'S NEVER A SEQUEL.
  • 00:15:19.040 --> 00:15:20.120
  • SO LIKE DISNEY IS DATING.
  • 00:15:20.140 --> 00:15:24.220
  • MARRIAGE IS LIKE REALITY TV SOMETIMES.
  • 00:15:24.240 --> 00:15:26.200
  • SO IT'S SO FUNNY.
  • 00:15:26.220 --> 00:15:28.170
  • WE WERE LAUGHING TALKING ABOUT CAN YOU IMAGINE IF
  • 00:15:28.190 --> 00:15:29.220
  • IN DISNEY THEY HAD SEQUELS.
  • 00:15:29.240 --> 00:15:32.090
  • BEAUTY AND THE BEAST, YOU'RE A MONSTER!
  • 00:15:32.110 --> 00:15:35.050
  • GET AWAY FROM ME. IF THEY SHOWED PART TWO AND
  • 00:15:35.070 --> 00:15:37.250
  • LITTLE MERMAID , SHE'D BE LIKE I'M GOING BACK
  • 00:15:37.270 --> 00:15:39.010
  • TO THE SEA.
  • 00:15:39.030 --> 00:15:39.250
  • I'M TIRED OF YOU.
  • 00:15:39.270 --> 00:15:41.010
  • I DIDN'T EVEN WANT TO BE ON LAND ANYWAY.
  • 00:15:41.030 --> 00:15:42.080
  • [ LAUGHTER ]
  • 00:15:42.100 --> 00:15:43.180
  • JUST BECAUSE THAT'S LAUGH AND YOU HAVE TO -NO, YOU
  • 00:15:43.200 --> 00:15:46.090
  • GOT TO MAKE THIS THING WORK, AND SO I THINK FOR
  • 00:15:46.110 --> 00:15:48.280
  • ME ONE OF THE MOST AMAZING THINGS THAT HAS
  • 00:15:49.000 --> 00:15:51.120
  • HELPED ME AS A BELIEVER IS TO KNOW THAT OF ALL
  • 00:15:51.140 --> 00:15:53.100
  • THE ANALOGIES THAT GOD COULD HAVE USED IN THE
  • 00:15:53.120 --> 00:15:55.100
  • BIBLE TO EXPRESS HOW WE RELATE TO HIM, HE USED
  • 00:15:55.120 --> 00:15:58.040
  • THIS ANALOGY OF MARRIAGE, THAT HE IS THE GROOM, WE
  • 00:15:58.060 --> 00:16:01.070
  • ARE THE BRIDE.
  • 00:16:01.090 --> 00:16:02.150
  • SO I ALWAYS LEAN INTO HOW CHRIST RESPONDED TO ME
  • 00:16:02.170 --> 00:16:05.130
  • AND TO HOW I'M SO CARRY OUT MY RELATIONSHIP
  • 00:16:05.150 --> 00:16:08.010
  • WITH MY WIFE.
  • 00:16:08.030 --> 00:16:09.040
  • AND LOOK AT WHAT HE WAS.
  • 00:16:09.060 --> 00:16:11.010
  • I WAS THE ORIGINAL INITIATOR.
  • 00:16:11.030 --> 00:16:12.210
  • CHRIST WAS THE ONE THAT LOVED US WHEN WE
  • 00:16:12.230 --> 00:16:15.060
  • WERE UNLOVELY.
  • 00:16:15.080 --> 00:16:17.030
  • HE WAS THE ONE THAT PURSUED US SO THAT WE
  • 00:16:17.050 --> 00:16:18.170
  • COULD MAKE A RESPONSE TO HIS PURSUING, BUT IT
  • 00:16:18.190 --> 00:16:20.040
  • DIDN'T STOP RIGHT THERE ONCE YOU MADE A RESPONSE
  • 00:16:20.060 --> 00:16:21.180
  • AND GAVE YOUR LIFE TO JESUS AND TEARS COMING
  • 00:16:21.200 --> 00:16:22.180
  • DOWN THE ALTAR.
  • 00:16:22.200 --> 00:16:23.240
  • THAT'S JUST THE BEGINNING OF AN AMAZING
  • 00:16:23.260 --> 00:16:25.240
  • RELATIONSHIP, AND HE CONTINUES TO PURSUE US.
  • 00:16:25.260 --> 00:16:28.080
  • HIS HOLY SPIRIT CONTINUES TO SPEAK INTO OUR LIVES.
  • 00:16:28.100 --> 00:16:30.280
  • AND SO I THINK THAT HAS TO BE MODELED IN OUR
  • 00:16:31.000 --> 00:16:33.130
  • MARRIAGES, AND WE JUST MADE A DECISION AT THE
  • 00:16:33.150 --> 00:16:34.210
  • BEGINNING THAT WE ARE NOT GOING TO MAKE THE MISTAKE
  • 00:16:34.230 --> 00:16:36.190
  • OF PUTTING MORE THOUGHT INTO THE DATING AND THE
  • 00:16:36.210 --> 00:16:38.140
  • WEDDING CEREMONY THAN WE DO INTO THE
  • 00:16:38.160 --> 00:16:39.270
  • MARRIAGE ITSELF.
  • 00:16:39.290 --> 00:16:41.290
  • WE MADE A DECISION THAT HEY, WE'RE GOING TO FIGHT
  • 00:16:42.010 --> 00:16:43.170
  • TO KEEP THE ROMANCE.
  • 00:16:43.190 --> 00:16:44.250
  • AND THAT LOOKS DIFFERENT IN DIFFERENT
  • 00:16:44.270 --> 00:16:46.210
  • SEASONS OF OUR LIFE.
  • 00:16:46.230 --> 00:16:48.080
  • ONE OF THE PRACTICAL WAYS THAT I FIGHT TO KEEP, YOU
  • 00:16:48.100 --> 00:16:50.140
  • KNOW, THE ROMANCE KEEP IT GOING I DO SOME JUST
  • 00:16:50.160 --> 00:16:51.280
  • BECAUSE GIFTS, YOU KNOW.
  • 00:16:52.000 --> 00:16:54.130
  • WE'RE ABOUT TO CELEBRATE NEXT WEEK FIVE YEARS OF
  • 00:16:54.150 --> 00:16:56.060
  • MARRIAGE AND HER 30TH BIRTHDAY, AND I GOT SOME
  • 00:16:56.080 --> 00:16:58.010
  • STUFF UP MY SLEEVE, BUT THE REALITY IS IF I JUST
  • 00:16:58.030 --> 00:17:00.020
  • -- ANY MAN KNOWS THAT.
  • 00:17:00.040 --> 00:17:02.190
  • YOU KNOW IT'S GOING TO BE A COLD NIGHT ON THE COUCH
  • 00:17:02.210 --> 00:17:04.010
  • FOR YOU IF YOU ONLY DO IT VALENTINE'S DAY
  • 00:17:04.030 --> 00:17:06.070
  • AND HAPPY ANNIVERSARY.
  • 00:17:06.090 --> 00:17:07.250
  • BUT I DO SOME JUST BECAUSE NOTES, SOME JUST
  • 00:17:07.270 --> 00:17:09.190
  • BECAUSE GIFTS, SOME JUST BECAUSE I'M
  • 00:17:09.210 --> 00:17:12.020
  • THINKING ABOUT YOU.
  • 00:17:12.040 --> 00:17:13.160
  • THAT'S ONE OF THE WAYS WE KEEP THE ROMANCE GOING.
  • 00:17:13.180 --> 00:17:15.120
  • ANOTHER WAY THAT'S GOING TO HELP SOMEBODY IN HERE
  • 00:17:15.140 --> 00:17:17.170
  • TODAY, I THINK THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST ROMANTIC
  • 00:17:17.190 --> 00:17:20.020
  • THINGS YOU CAN DO IN THIS DAY AND AGE.
  • 00:17:20.040 --> 00:17:21.010
  • ARE YOU READY?
  • 00:17:21.030 --> 00:17:22.020
  • I'M GOING TO SHOW IT TO YOU.
  • 00:17:22.040 --> 00:17:24.130
  • JUST PUTTING YOUR PHONE DOWN.
  • 00:17:26.100 --> 00:17:29.090
  • [ APPLAUSE ]
  • 00:17:29.110 --> 00:17:31.220
  • CUTTING IT OFF.
  • 00:17:31.240 --> 00:17:32.210
  • - RIGHT.
  • 00:17:32.230 --> 00:17:34.020
  • - THAT IS THE BIGGEST GAME CHANGER BECAUSE
  • 00:17:34.040 --> 00:17:35.170
  • SPECIALLY WHEN KIDS COME, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE
  • 00:17:35.190 --> 00:17:37.100
  • -SOMEBODY HAD CHURCH ON THAT ONE.
  • 00:17:37.120 --> 00:17:38.260
  • I TOLD YOU PUT YOUR PHONE DOWN!
  • 00:17:38.280 --> 00:17:40.050
  • [ LAUGHTER ]
  • 00:17:40.070 --> 00:17:42.020
  • BUT I'M TELLING YOU, WHEN WE'RE WITH EACH OTHER, I
  • 00:17:42.040 --> 00:17:45.120
  • WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M CONNECTED, THAT I AM
  • 00:17:45.140 --> 00:17:47.020
  • PRESENT, THAT I'M IN THAT MOMENT.
  • 00:17:47.040 --> 00:17:49.010
  • SOME PEOPLE ARE WAITING FOR TRANSPORTERS.
  • 00:17:49.030 --> 00:17:50.160
  • I THINK CELL PHONES ARE TRANSPORTERS.
  • 00:17:50.180 --> 00:17:52.130
  • YOU CAN BE WITH YOUR SPOUSE AND NOT ACTUALLY
  • 00:17:52.150 --> 00:17:54.120
  • BE THERE BECAUSE YOU'RE SO WORRIED ABOUT WHAT'S
  • 00:17:54.140 --> 00:17:56.040
  • GOING ON ON YOUR PHONE.
  • 00:17:56.060 --> 00:17:57.140
  • AND THE STATISTICS ARE ALARMING AS TO WHAT
  • 00:17:57.160 --> 00:17:59.250
  • SOCIAL MEDIA AND WHAT PHONES ARE DOING TO
  • 00:17:59.270 --> 00:18:02.220
  • RELATIONSHIPS AND TO DIVORCE, SO MAN, THAT'S
  • 00:18:02.240 --> 00:18:05.130
  • ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS.
  • 00:18:05.150 --> 00:18:06.200
  • SHE'LL EVEN TELL ME SOME DATE NIGHTS, AND DATE
  • 00:18:06.220 --> 00:18:08.070
  • NIGHT IS A BIG THING FOR US, I'M LEAVING MY PHONE
  • 00:18:08.090 --> 00:18:09.230
  • IN THE CAR.
  • 00:18:09.250 --> 00:18:10.230
  • LEAVE YOURS THERE.
  • 00:18:10.250 --> 00:18:12.020
  • AND I'M LIKE, BUT - BUT - BUT - BUT I NEED IT.
  • 00:18:12.040 --> 00:18:13.090
  • BUT THE KIDS.
  • 00:18:13.110 --> 00:18:14.280
  • BUT THE KIDS.
  • 00:18:15.000 --> 00:18:15.190
  • IT'S NOT THE KIDS.
  • 00:18:15.210 --> 00:18:16.270
  • IT'S I POSTED SOME COOL SNEAKERS, AND I NEED
  • 00:18:16.290 --> 00:18:18.050
  • SOMEBODY TO SEE HOW MANY LIKES I GOT ON THE
  • 00:18:18.070 --> 00:18:20.180
  • SNEAKERS, SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS JUST
  • 00:18:20.200 --> 00:18:21.220
  • PUTTING MY PHONE DOWN.
  • 00:18:21.240 --> 00:18:24.090
  • I DON'T KNOW.
  • 00:18:24.110 --> 00:18:25.090
  • WHAT WOULD YOU SAY?
  • 00:18:25.110 --> 00:18:26.130
  • - TAYLOR MADU: WELL, UM, LET'S GET REAL.
  • 00:18:26.150 --> 00:18:27.250
  • IT ACTUALLY-- BEING FIVE YEARS MARRIED INTO IT NOW,
  • 00:18:27.270 --> 00:18:31.140
  • IT'S HARD TO KEEP THE ROMANCE ALIVE HONESTLY.
  • 00:18:31.160 --> 00:18:34.130
  • ESPECIALLY, I'VE BEEN PREGNANT FOR THE LAST THREE
  • 00:18:34.150 --> 00:18:36.210
  • YEARS. YOU KNOW HOW YOU FEEL, WOMEN,
  • 00:18:36.230 --> 00:18:38.110
  • WHEN YOU'RE PREGNANT. YOU FEEL LIKE A WHALE.
  • 00:18:38.130 --> 00:18:40.050
  • YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING?
  • 00:18:40.070 --> 00:18:41.130
  • I JUST FEEL LIKE A BIG WHALE WOBBLING AROUND
  • 00:18:41.150 --> 00:18:42.250
  • STUFFING MY FACE, AND I'M SWOLLEN.
  • 00:18:42.270 --> 00:18:44.240
  • LAST THING I WANT TO DO IS HAVE SOMEBODY ALL UP ON ME
  • 00:18:44.260 --> 00:18:48.080
  • BECAUSE MY KIDS ARE UP ON ME 24/7,
  • 00:18:48.100 --> 00:18:50.220
  • YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING, SO IT'S HARD AND CHALLENGING.
  • 00:18:50.240 --> 00:18:53.180
  • BUT AT THE SAME TIME, SOMETIMES I FEEL LIKE,
  • 00:18:53.200 --> 00:18:56.090
  • AS WOMEN, WE LEAVE THE ROMANCE UP TO THE MAN.
  • 00:18:56.110 --> 00:18:58.200
  • PURSUE ME, OR PLAN A DATE NIGHT,
  • 00:18:58.220 --> 00:19:01.260
  • OR PLAN THIS VACATION.
  • 00:19:01.280 --> 00:19:03.260
  • BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, I THINK OVER TIME,
  • 00:19:03.280 --> 00:19:05.170
  • THE HOLY SPIRIT STARTED CONVICTING ME BECAUSE FROM
  • 00:19:05.190 --> 00:19:09.190
  • PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, I ACTUALLY, I FOUND MYSELF,
  • 00:19:09.210 --> 00:19:14.070
  • PROBABLY AFTER MY EVIE GIRL, MY FIRSTBORN,
  • 00:19:14.090 --> 00:19:16.280
  • I PROBABLY LIVED IN MY GRAY ROBE AND MY LEOPARD HOUSE
  • 00:19:17.000 --> 00:19:21.110
  • SHOES FOR LIKE SIX MONTHS STRAIGHT.
  • 00:19:21.130 --> 00:19:23.100
  • - ROBERT MADU: I LOVE THAT ROBE.
  • 00:19:23.120 --> 00:19:25.020
  • - HE ACTUALLY CALLS IT, IT'S LIKE A BIG, OLD,
  • 00:19:25.040 --> 00:19:27.010
  • OVERSIZED, SEXY, GRAY ROBE, OKAY?
  • 00:19:27.030 --> 00:19:32.160
  • AND I HAVE MY HAIR IN A TOP KNOT, NO MAKEUP ON.
  • 00:19:32.180 --> 00:19:35.220
  • I JUST LOOK ROUGH, BUT I'M TIRED.
  • 00:19:35.240 --> 00:19:37.190
  • YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? I'M TIRED!
  • 00:19:37.210 --> 00:19:41.010
  • SO HE COMES FROM THE ROAD, I'VE BEEN WITH THE KIDS
  • 00:19:41.030 --> 00:19:43.190
  • 24 HOURS A DAY, MY KIDS AREN'T SLEEPING, LAUNDRY,
  • 00:19:43.210 --> 00:19:47.110
  • ALL THE RESPONSIBILITY THAT WE HAVE, AND I'M TIRED.
  • 00:19:47.130 --> 00:19:50.000
  • BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, I'VE MADE A COMMITMENT TO
  • 00:19:50.020 --> 00:19:51.250
  • HIM. AND SO I HAD TO FIGURE OUT THE BALANCE OF KNOWING
  • 00:19:51.270 --> 00:19:55.190
  • HOW TO BE A MOM, KNOWING HOW TO BE A WIFE,
  • 00:19:55.210 --> 00:19:57.180
  • KNOWING HOW TO BE THIS AND STEWARD ALL OF THIS.
  • 00:19:57.200 --> 00:19:59.230
  • BUT WITH ALL THAT BEING SAID, I FELT MYSELF
  • 00:19:59.250 --> 00:20:01.160
  • LIVING IN MY GRAY ROBE FOR LIKE SIX MONTHS.
  • 00:20:01.180 --> 00:20:03.280
  • AND HOLY SPIRIT WAS LIKE, YOU NEED TO DO
  • 00:20:04.000 --> 00:20:06.110
  • SOMETHING WITH THAT.
  • 00:20:06.130 --> 00:20:08.050
  • HE ACTUALLY CALLS IT MY "I DON'T WANT NONE" ROBE
  • 00:20:08.070 --> 00:20:09.290
  • IF THAT DOESN'T EXPLAIN.
  • 00:20:10.010 --> 00:20:11.200
  • SO WHEN I HAVE THE ROBE ON, HE'S LIKE "OH,
  • 00:20:11.220 --> 00:20:13.160
  • YOU GOT THE 'I DON'T WANT NONE' ROBE ON."
  • 00:20:13.180 --> 00:20:16.040
  • WE LAUGHED ABOUT IT, BUT THEN EVERY TIME I WAS KIND
  • 00:20:16.060 --> 00:20:18.150
  • OF LIKE THERE'S TRUTH TO THAT. SO--
  • 00:20:18.170 --> 00:20:21.220
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:20:21.240 --> 00:20:23.260
  • I STILL GOT IT THOUGH.
  • 00:20:23.280 --> 00:20:25.100
  • I'VE GOT A FEW OTHER ROBES, BUT I CAN'T SEEM TO GET RID
  • 00:20:25.120 --> 00:20:27.130
  • OF THAT ONE. SO FINALLY ONE DAY I WAS LIKE,
  • 00:20:27.150 --> 00:20:34.230
  • I FEEL LIKE I NEED TO WORK ON THIS.
  • 00:20:34.250 --> 00:20:37.230
  • AND I HONESTLY DON'T NECESSARILY BELIEVE THAT AS
  • 00:20:37.250 --> 00:20:41.260
  • WOMEN WE HAVE TO ACCEPT THE REALITY THAT WE DON'T
  • 00:20:41.280 --> 00:20:44.040
  • REALLY HAVE A SEX DRIVE.
  • 00:20:44.060 --> 00:20:45.150
  • MEN DO. WE HEAR THAT ALL THE TIME.
  • 00:20:45.170 --> 00:20:47.000
  • IT'S JUST THE WAY WE'RE WIRED.
  • 00:20:47.020 --> 00:20:48.120
  • WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A SEX DRIVE.
  • 00:20:48.140 --> 00:20:49.250
  • MEN ARE JUST LIKE THAT.
  • 00:20:49.270 --> 00:20:51.090
  • WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT, I WAS LIKE YOU KNOW WHAT HOLY
  • 00:20:51.110 --> 00:20:52.230
  • SPIRIT, LIKE, I DON'T WANT TO VIEW SEX AND BEING
  • 00:20:52.250 --> 00:20:56.150
  • INTIMATE WITH MY HUSBAND AS AN OBLIGATION
  • 00:20:56.170 --> 00:20:57.290
  • OR A CHECK LIST.
  • 00:20:58.010 --> 00:21:00.030
  • I WAS LIKE, I BELIEVE THAT YOU CAN PUT THAT IN ME AND
  • 00:21:00.050 --> 00:21:03.280
  • GIVE ME A SEX DRIVE, AND WE'LL LIVE HAPPILY EVER
  • 00:21:04.000 --> 00:21:06.140
  • AFTER, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? SO I DID.
  • 00:21:06.160 --> 00:21:08.180
  • I PRAYED, HOLY SPIRIT, HELP ME WITH MY SEX DRIVE.
  • 00:21:08.200 --> 00:21:10.110
  • THAT'S AN AREA I NEED RIGHT NOW,
  • 00:21:10.130 --> 00:21:12.000
  • NOT BECAUSE OF ANYTHING HE'S DONE,
  • 00:21:12.020 --> 00:21:13.250
  • BUT BECAUSE I'M TIRED. I'M JUST EXHAUSTED.
  • 00:21:13.270 --> 00:21:16.010
  • SO SURE ENOUGH, THE HOLY SPIRIT HELPED ME,
  • 00:21:16.030 --> 00:21:18.150
  • AND I'VE BEEN PREGNANT THREE YEARS IN A ROW.
  • 00:21:18.170 --> 00:21:20.170
  • HEY! THANK YOU JESUS! [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:21:20.190 --> 00:21:23.030
  • NO, BUT SERIOUSLY, IT'S SIMPLE THINGS,
  • 00:21:23.050 --> 00:21:25.090
  • AND I LITERALLY JUST SIMPLY ASKED, HOLY SPIRIT,
  • 00:21:25.110 --> 00:21:28.000
  • HELP ME IN THIS AREA.
  • 00:21:28.020 --> 00:21:29.270
  • BECAUSE IT WASN'T AN ISSUE AT FIRST,
  • 00:21:29.290 --> 00:21:31.140
  • AND AFTER BEING MARRIED FOR A WHILE,
  • 00:21:31.160 --> 00:21:33.020
  • I GUESS IT COULD BECOME AN ISSUE.
  • 00:21:33.040 --> 00:21:35.170
  • SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, WHAT DID I DO LADIES?
  • 00:21:35.190 --> 00:21:38.000
  • THIS IS WHAT I DID.
  • 00:21:38.020 --> 00:21:39.070
  • I'M GONNA GIVE YOU A LITTLE TIP.
  • 00:21:39.090 --> 00:21:41.010
  • SO HE WAS COMING IN OFF THE ROAD,
  • 00:21:41.030 --> 00:21:43.160
  • THE KIDS WERE OUT WITH THE GRANDPARENTS,
  • 00:21:43.180 --> 00:21:45.020
  • SO I PUT SOME LINGERIE ON, PUT MY HIGH HEELS ON,
  • 00:21:45.040 --> 00:21:48.090
  • AND I STARTED COOKING HIM DINNER.
  • 00:21:48.110 --> 00:21:49.200
  • SO WHEN HE WALKED IN THE HOUSE,
  • 00:21:49.220 --> 00:21:51.000
  • I WAS COOKING DINNER IN LINGERIE, HELP US JESUS!
  • 00:21:51.020 --> 00:21:54.290
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:21:55.010 --> 00:21:59.010
  • AND I WAS READY. I WAS LIKE, THIS IS GREAT!
  • 00:21:59.030 --> 00:22:01.230
  • AND WHEN HE WALKED IN THE DOOR,
  • 00:22:01.250 --> 00:22:03.170
  • Y'ALL KNOW WHAT HE DID? HE STARTED LAUGHING.
  • 00:22:03.190 --> 00:22:06.000
  • HE JUST STARTED LAUGHING. THAT'S IT.
  • 00:22:06.020 --> 00:22:07.260
  • - WHIPLASH FROM THE ROBE.
  • 00:22:07.280 --> 00:22:09.100
  • IT WAS TOO QUICK. I WAS LIKE, HOLD ON.
  • 00:22:09.120 --> 00:22:11.010
  • - HE LITERALLY BUSTED OUT LAUGHING,
  • 00:22:11.030 --> 00:22:13.220
  • AND I FELT SO DUMB, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?
  • 00:22:13.240 --> 00:22:15.230
  • - I DIDN'T LAUGH TOO LONG.
  • 00:22:15.250 --> 00:22:17.170
  • HELLO, BABY NUMBER THREE IS COMING.
  • 00:22:17.190 --> 00:22:19.110
  • - NO. BUT IN THAT, I MEAN IT'S SUPER FUNNY, RIGHT,
  • 00:22:19.130 --> 00:22:24.080
  • BUT IT'S JUST THE REALITY.
  • 00:22:24.100 --> 00:22:26.190
  • I THINK END OF THE DAY, HE DOESN'T EXPECT TO COME HOME
  • 00:22:26.210 --> 00:22:29.280
  • AND FIND ME IN MY LINGERIE AND HIGH HEELS
  • 00:22:30.000 --> 00:22:31.190
  • COOKING EVERY DAY. HE DOESN'T EXPECT THAT.
  • 00:22:31.210 --> 00:22:33.190
  • HOWEVER, MY EFFORTS MEANT A LOT TO HIM,
  • 00:22:33.210 --> 00:22:37.180
  • AND JUST SHOWING THAT I CARED ENOUGH TO WORK IN
  • 00:22:37.200 --> 00:22:39.240
  • THAT, WORK IN THAT AREA I THINK MEANT THE WORLD TO
  • 00:22:39.260 --> 00:22:42.110
  • HIM. SO THAT'S KIND OF HOW I FELT AS HIS WIFE AND IN OUR
  • 00:22:42.130 --> 00:22:46.170
  • MARRIAGE THAT IT'S HELPED PUTTING FORTH A LITTLE
  • 00:22:46.190 --> 00:22:50.140
  • EFFORT, HIM NOT ALWAYS BEING THE ONE THAT'S GONNA
  • 00:22:50.160 --> 00:22:53.000
  • PURSUE SEX, OR PURSUE DATE NIGHT,
  • 00:22:53.020 --> 00:22:55.150
  • OR PURSUE WHATEVER THAT LOOKS LIKE.
  • 00:22:55.170 --> 00:22:57.130
  • ONCE AGAIN, NOT ALL MEN ARE WIRED TO WHERE THEY WANT
  • 00:22:57.150 --> 00:23:00.030
  • YOU TO BE IN LINGERIE COOKING DINNER.
  • 00:23:00.050 --> 00:23:02.000
  • WHATEVER IT LOOKS LIKE TO SATISFY YOUR MAN,
  • 00:23:02.020 --> 00:23:04.090
  • JUST WORK ON THAT. PUT FORTH EFFORT IN THAT AREA.
  • 00:23:04.110 --> 00:23:07.010
  • - THAT'S REALLY GOOD. THAT'S AWESOME.
  • 00:23:07.030 --> 00:23:08.150
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:23:08.170 --> 00:23:12.180
  • YOU TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SOME OF THE THINGS
  • 00:23:12.200 --> 00:23:14.290
  • YOU FOCUS ON TO TRY TO KEEP BALANCE,
  • 00:23:15.010 --> 00:23:17.020
  • BUT UNPACK THAT A LITTLE BIT,
  • 00:23:17.040 --> 00:23:18.260
  • IF YOU CAN GO A LITTLE FURTHER WITH JUST--
  • 00:23:18.280 --> 00:23:21.080
  • PASTOR ROBERT, YOU TRAVEL CONSISTENTLY ALL THE TIME.
  • 00:23:21.100 --> 00:23:25.260
  • TAYLOR, YOU TRAVEL SOMETIMES AS WELL NOW,
  • 00:23:25.280 --> 00:23:29.070
  • SPEAKING AS WELL AS TRYING TO RAISE YOUR CHILDREN AND
  • 00:23:29.090 --> 00:23:33.020
  • MAKING SURE THE HOUSE IS TAKEN CARE OF AND ALL THAT.
  • 00:23:33.040 --> 00:23:35.280
  • TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW YOU BALANCE YOUR WORLDS
  • 00:23:36.000 --> 00:23:37.250
  • WITHOUT GOING CRAZY.
  • 00:23:37.270 --> 00:23:40.020
  • HOW DO YOU KEEP YOUR MIND IN ORDER, YOUR HEART RIGHT,
  • 00:23:40.040 --> 00:23:43.230
  • MARRIAGE A PRIORITY IN THE MIDST OF THE TRAVEL,
  • 00:23:43.250 --> 00:23:46.140
  • THE BUSY SCHEDULE?
  • 00:23:46.160 --> 00:23:48.180
  • - YOU SAID WITHOUT GOING CRAZY? I THINK WE'RE LIKE--
  • 00:23:48.200 --> 00:23:51.180
  • - I ACTUALLY DON'T THINK I'VE MASTERED THE ART
  • 00:23:51.200 --> 00:23:55.010
  • OF LEARNING HOW TO BALANCE PERFECTLY EVERYTHING IN MY
  • 00:23:55.030 --> 00:23:58.080
  • LIFE. I ACTUALLY THERE'S A LOT OF DAYS WHERE
  • 00:23:58.100 --> 00:24:00.080
  • I CALL HIM CRYING.
  • 00:24:00.100 --> 00:24:01.210
  • I FEEL LIKE I'M WALKING AROUND WITH A LITTLE TWITCH
  • 00:24:01.230 --> 00:24:03.110
  • BECAUSE I JUST FEEL LIKE I'M GOING CRAZY,
  • 00:24:03.130 --> 00:24:05.010
  • JUST BECAUSE SOMETIMES IT'S SO OVERWHELMING BETWEEN HIM
  • 00:24:05.030 --> 00:24:06.270
  • TRAVELING, AND TWO BABIES UNDER TWO, ONE ON THE WAY,
  • 00:24:06.290 --> 00:24:11.090
  • JUST LIFE IN GENERAL. HOWEVER, I WILL SAY
  • 00:24:11.110 --> 00:24:14.250
  • I FIND MYSELF BEATING MYSELF UP A LOT.
  • 00:24:14.270 --> 00:24:16.240
  • I FEEL LIKE I FAILED.
  • 00:24:16.260 --> 00:24:18.120
  • IF I'M NOT BEING OR IF I'M SATISFYING ROBERT'S NEEDS,
  • 00:24:18.140 --> 00:24:22.010
  • THEN MY BABIES ARE LACKING.
  • 00:24:22.030 --> 00:24:24.140
  • IF MY BABIES AND MY HUSBAND ARE DOING GREAT
  • 00:24:24.160 --> 00:24:27.230
  • AND THEY'RE NOT LACKING FOR ANYTHING,
  • 00:24:27.250 --> 00:24:28.280
  • MY SPIRITUAL LIFE IS LACKING.
  • 00:24:29.000 --> 00:24:30.200
  • SO I'M CONSTANTLY BEATING MYSELF UP BECAUSE AN AREA
  • 00:24:30.220 --> 00:24:32.200
  • IS LACKING IN MY LIFE.
  • 00:24:32.220 --> 00:24:35.080
  • HOWEVER, I USUALLY JUST HAVE TO TAKE A STEP BACK,
  • 00:24:35.100 --> 00:24:37.190
  • AND HE HELPS ME WITH THIS AND JUST REMINDS ME THAT
  • 00:24:37.210 --> 00:24:39.280
  • I'M HUMAN. I'M ONE PERSON AND I NEED GRACE.
  • 00:24:40.000 --> 00:24:43.100
  • BUT ULTIMATELY, I THINK ONE THING THAT THE HOLY SPIRIT
  • 00:24:43.120 --> 00:24:45.160
  • ALWAYS SPEAKS TO ME IS TAYLOR,
  • 00:24:45.180 --> 00:24:47.220
  • YOU ARE GRACE FOR THIS. YOU'RE GRACE FOR THIS.
  • 00:24:47.240 --> 00:24:51.080
  • YOU'RE GRACE FOR THIS POSITION.
  • 00:24:51.100 --> 00:24:52.230
  • SO MANY PEOPLE WILL SAY, GIRL, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU DO IT!
  • 00:24:52.250 --> 00:24:54.210
  • I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU DO WHAT YOU DO!
  • 00:24:54.230 --> 00:24:56.150
  • AND THEN I LOOK AT THEIR LIFE, AND I'M LIKE I DON'T KNOW
  • 00:24:56.170 --> 00:24:58.160
  • HOW YOU DO WHAT YOU DO. ULTIMATELY, IT'S BECAUSE
  • 00:24:58.180 --> 00:25:00.060
  • I'M NOT GRACED TO BE WHO THEY ARE.
  • 00:25:00.080 --> 00:25:02.020
  • I'M GRACED TO BE TAYLOR MADU, ROBERT MADU'S WIFE.
  • 00:25:02.040 --> 00:25:04.290
  • SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I JUST
  • 00:25:05.010 --> 00:25:08.290
  • KEEP IN THE FOREFRONT OF MY MIND AND OF OUR HOME,
  • 00:25:09.010 --> 00:25:11.160
  • THAT BEFORE THE VERY FOUNDATION OF THE EARTH,
  • 00:25:11.180 --> 00:25:14.180
  • GOD KNEW THE PLANS HE HAD FOR ME, AND FOR ROBERT,
  • 00:25:14.200 --> 00:25:16.250
  • AND OUR CHILDREN, AND HE WIRED ME TO BE ABLE AND
  • 00:25:16.270 --> 00:25:19.230
  • GRACED ME TO BE ABLE TO SEND HIM OUT ON THE ROAD
  • 00:25:19.250 --> 00:25:22.090
  • AND BE AT HOME WITH MY BABIES.
  • 00:25:22.110 --> 00:25:23.240
  • AND HE GRACED OUR CHILDREN TO BE ABLE
  • 00:25:23.260 --> 00:25:25.270
  • TO SEND THEIR DADDY OUT.
  • 00:25:25.290 --> 00:25:27.080
  • THAT'S NOT ALWAYS EASY.
  • 00:25:27.100 --> 00:25:28.240
  • BUT HE GRACED ROBERT TO BE ABLE TO LEAVE US AT HOME.
  • 00:25:28.260 --> 00:25:32.080
  • THERE'S A LOT OF NIGHTS WHERE I WANT TO ROLL OVER
  • 00:25:32.100 --> 00:25:34.090
  • AND TOUCH MY HUSBAND AND HE'S RIGHT THERE,
  • 00:25:34.110 --> 00:25:36.240
  • OR MY BABIES WILL BE LIKE "WHERE'S DADDY?"
  • 00:25:36.260 --> 00:25:38.180
  • AND I'M LIKE, HE'S PREACHING.
  • 00:25:38.200 --> 00:25:40.180
  • AND WE HAVE A THING WHERE WE SAY HE'S PREACHING,
  • 00:25:40.200 --> 00:25:42.030
  • HE'S TELLING PEOPLE ABOUT JESUS, MAKING THEM HAPPY.
  • 00:25:42.050 --> 00:25:43.260
  • SO HE'S PREACHING, TELLING PEOPLE ABOUT JESUS,
  • 00:25:43.280 --> 00:25:45.280
  • MAKING THEM HAPPY? WE'RE LIKE, YEAH.
  • 00:25:46.000 --> 00:25:47.290
  • BUT THAT'S KIND OF HOW WE DO IT.
  • 00:25:48.010 --> 00:25:52.130
  • IS IT HARD? HECK YEAH.
  • 00:25:52.150 --> 00:25:54.070
  • IT'S HARD A LOT OF DAYS, BUT AT THE SAME TIME,
  • 00:25:54.090 --> 00:25:56.210
  • WE DO IT, AND WE'RE GRACED FOR IT.
  • 00:25:56.230 --> 00:25:59.040
  • AND SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL BECAUSE THINGS
  • 00:25:59.060 --> 00:26:02.090
  • CAN BECOME A COMPETITION, LIKE SENDING DADDY OUT,
  • 00:26:02.110 --> 00:26:05.240
  • MINISTRY VERSUS FAMILY AND ALL THAT,
  • 00:26:05.260 --> 00:26:07.210
  • BUT I DON'T THINK IT HAS TO BE THAT WAY.
  • 00:26:07.230 --> 00:26:09.050
  • I THINK WE ALL DO IT TOGETHER.
  • 00:26:09.070 --> 00:26:10.240
  • AND IF THERE'S AN AREA LACKING,
  • 00:26:10.260 --> 00:26:12.210
  • WHAT WE DO AS A FAMILY IS WE TAKE A STEP BACK,
  • 00:26:12.230 --> 00:26:15.000
  • WE ACKNOWLEDGE THE AREA THAT'S LACKING,
  • 00:26:15.020 --> 00:26:17.110
  • AND WE GIVE ATTENTION TO IT,
  • 00:26:17.130 --> 00:26:18.260
  • AND THEN WE MOVE FORWARD.
  • 00:26:18.280 --> 00:26:20.210
  • AND ONCE AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'LL EVER LEARN
  • 00:26:20.230 --> 00:26:22.150
  • TO BALANCE IT ALL PERFECTLY LIKE 50-50
  • 00:26:22.170 --> 00:26:24.230
  • OR 20-20-20-20, WHATEVER.
  • 00:26:24.250 --> 00:26:27.150
  • BUT I THINK IT'S JUST IMPORTANT TO NEVER CREATE
  • 00:26:27.170 --> 00:26:30.070
  • THAT COMPETITION BETWEEN ALL OF THEM AND TAKE A STEP
  • 00:26:30.090 --> 00:26:33.080
  • BACK, GIVE THAT ONE PLACE ATTENTION AND THEN--
  • 00:26:33.100 --> 00:26:35.250
  • - THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA SAY.
  • 00:26:35.270 --> 00:26:37.020
  • WE DON'T EVEN LIKE TO REALLY EVEN USE THE TERM
  • 00:26:37.040 --> 00:26:39.070
  • "BALANCE" BECAUSE TO ME, BALANCE JUST GIVES THIS
  • 00:26:39.090 --> 00:26:42.090
  • IMAGERY OF YOU HAVE ALL THESE PRECIOUS VESSELS THAT
  • 00:26:42.110 --> 00:26:45.130
  • ARE ALL IMPORTANT TO YOU, YOU'RE LIKE ON A TIGHT
  • 00:26:45.150 --> 00:26:46.290
  • ROPE, AND THIS TENSION, YOU'RE TRYING TO
  • 00:26:47.010 --> 00:26:48.100
  • HOLD IT ALL TOGETHER.
  • 00:26:48.120 --> 00:26:50.000
  • AND LIKE SHE SAID, IF YOU'RE NOT CAREFUL,
  • 00:26:50.020 --> 00:26:51.090
  • YOU'LL START PUTTING THINGS AGAINST EACH OTHER.
  • 00:26:51.110 --> 00:26:53.130
  • OH, NO, THIS IS MINISTRY TIME, THIS IS FAMILY TIME.
  • 00:26:53.150 --> 00:26:56.020
  • WE JUST SAY HEY, WE'RE GONNA BE GOOD STEWARDS OF
  • 00:26:56.040 --> 00:26:59.000
  • EVERYTHING GOD HAS PUT UNDER OUR JURISDICTION,
  • 00:26:59.020 --> 00:27:02.040
  • AND THAT TAKES REFLECTION, THAT TAKES STEPPING BACK,
  • 00:27:02.060 --> 00:27:05.010
  • THAT TAKES SAYING NO FOR NOW, MAYBE LATER,
  • 00:27:05.030 --> 00:27:09.050
  • THIS SEASON IS NOT FOR THAT.
  • 00:27:09.070 --> 00:27:10.160
  • PERFECT EXAMPLE, I JUST GOT BACK FROM NEW ZEALAND.
  • 00:27:10.180 --> 00:27:13.080
  • I WAS PREACHING IN NEW ZEALAND.
  • 00:27:13.100 --> 00:27:14.180
  • I WAS GONE LIKE ELEVEN DAYS, PREACHED LIKE
  • 00:27:14.200 --> 00:27:16.200
  • 14 TIMES WHILE I WAS IN NEW ZEALAND.
  • 00:27:16.220 --> 00:27:18.190
  • AND I GOT BACK-- AND THAT WAS ONLY TWO INTERNATIONAL
  • 00:27:18.210 --> 00:27:20.290
  • TRIPS THAT I TOOK THIS YEAR,
  • 00:27:21.010 --> 00:27:22.090
  • BUT AFTER GETTING BACK, I SAW HER FACE WHEN I WALKED
  • 00:27:22.110 --> 00:27:24.180
  • IN THE DOOR, SHE'S LIKE "THAT WAS YOUR LAST
  • 00:27:24.200 --> 00:27:26.280
  • INTERNATIONAL TRIP. PUT YOUR PASSPORT AWAY."
  • 00:27:27.000 --> 00:27:30.240
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:27:30.260 --> 00:27:32.290
  • "YOU ARE STAYING IN THESE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA."
  • 00:27:33.010 --> 00:27:36.000
  • SO IT WAS LIKE OKAY.
  • 00:27:36.020 --> 00:27:37.170
  • WE JUST MADE A DECISION, FOR RIGHT NOW,
  • 00:27:37.190 --> 00:27:39.050
  • I AM NOT DOING INTERNATIONAL TRIPS
  • 00:27:39.070 --> 00:27:41.110
  • BECAUSE FOR THIS SEASON WITH OUR KIDS,
  • 00:27:41.130 --> 00:27:42.240
  • I CANNOT BE GONE TEN DAYS.
  • 00:27:42.260 --> 00:27:45.080
  • SO I CAN DO A TRIP HERE OR THERE,
  • 00:27:45.100 --> 00:27:46.160
  • BUT THAT'S JUST FOR THIS SEASON.
  • 00:27:46.180 --> 00:27:47.290
  • THERE ARE DIFFERENT GUARDRAILS WE PUT IN. ONE
  • 00:27:48.010 --> 00:27:49.170
  • THING WE DO AT EASTER, FATHER'S DAY, MOTHER'S DAY
  • 00:27:49.190 --> 00:27:53.280
  • AND HOLIDAYS, THOSE ARE DAYS I DON'T CARE WHO YOU
  • 00:27:54.000 --> 00:27:57.250
  • ARE CALLING ME TO COME PREACH, I'M NOT GOING.
  • 00:27:57.270 --> 00:27:59.210
  • WE'RE GONNA GO TO CHURCH AS A FAMILY.
  • 00:27:59.230 --> 00:28:01.210
  • THAT'S JUST SOME DIFFERENT GUARDRAILS THAT WE'VE PUT
  • 00:28:01.230 --> 00:28:03.280
  • IN. WE SAID THIS IS GONNA HELP US STEWARD
  • 00:28:04.000 --> 00:28:06.190
  • WHAT GOD HAS GIVEN US.
  • 00:28:06.210 --> 00:28:08.190
  • - AND I THINK SO MANY TIMES IN MINISTRY,
  • 00:28:08.210 --> 00:28:10.140
  • ESPECIALLY BECAUSE I GREW UP IN A PASTOR'S HOME,
  • 00:28:10.160 --> 00:28:12.230
  • BUT LIKE SO MANY TIMES IT'S LIKE GOD, GOD,
  • 00:28:12.250 --> 00:28:15.130
  • GOD HAS TO BE FIRST.
  • 00:28:15.150 --> 00:28:16.210
  • BUT GOD IS LIKE IN US AND WITH US.
  • 00:28:16.230 --> 00:28:18.170
  • IT'S NOT LIKE HE'S SEPARATE FROM THAT.
  • 00:28:18.190 --> 00:28:20.290
  • SO I FEEL LIKE SOMETIMES PEOPLE FEEL THE PRESSURE OF
  • 00:28:21.010 --> 00:28:23.010
  • LIKE THEY HAVE TO PUT THEIR MINISTRY
  • 00:28:23.030 --> 00:28:24.180
  • ABOVE THEIR FAMILY.
  • 00:28:24.200 --> 00:28:26.040
  • AND I THINK IF YOU'RE OUT MINISTERING TO THE WORLD
  • 00:28:26.060 --> 00:28:27.290
  • AND HE'S CHANGING LIVES BUT YET THE HOME LIFE
  • 00:28:28.010 --> 00:28:29.230
  • IS SUFFERING, SOMETHING IS WRONG.
  • 00:28:29.250 --> 00:28:31.160
  • - ABSOLUTELY.
  • 00:28:31.180 --> 00:28:33.040
  • - AND SO I THINK THAT'S WHY WE MAKE IT A PRIORITY
  • 00:28:33.060 --> 00:28:35.080
  • THAT IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE LIKE HE'S OVER HERE,
  • 00:28:35.100 --> 00:28:38.180
  • AND WE'RE OVER HERE, AND WE'RE SECOND AND THIRD.
  • 00:28:38.200 --> 00:28:41.050
  • I DON'T THINK HE ORDAINED IT TO BE THAT WAY.
  • 00:28:41.070 --> 00:28:44.030
  • SO WE JUST DO IT ALL TOGETHER.
  • 00:28:44.050 --> 00:28:46.080
  • AND ONCE AGAIN, WHATEVER AREA IS LACKING,
  • 00:28:46.100 --> 00:28:48.140
  • WE JUST PUT ATTENTION TOWARDS THAT,
  • 00:28:48.160 --> 00:28:50.010
  • AND THEN WE MOVE FORWARD.
  • 00:28:50.030 --> 00:28:51.260
  • - THAT'S GREAT. YOU MENTIONED GRACE FOR YOUR RACE.
  • 00:28:51.280 --> 00:28:56.000
  • AND I DIDN'T REALLY PLAN ON ASKING THIS QUESTION,
  • 00:28:56.020 --> 00:28:58.170
  • BUT I KNOW LIKE WITH THE NEXT GENERATION,
  • 00:28:58.190 --> 00:29:01.080
  • A LOT OF YOUNG MARRIEDS WHO ARE HERE,
  • 00:29:01.100 --> 00:29:03.060
  • THE TEMPTATION TO COMPARE THEIR MARRIAGE TO OTHER
  • 00:29:03.080 --> 00:29:06.130
  • MARRIAGES VIA SOCIAL MEDIA.
  • 00:29:06.150 --> 00:29:09.260
  • TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT.
  • 00:29:09.280 --> 00:29:11.120
  • HOW DO YOU GUYS NAVIGATE THROUGH THAT?
  • 00:29:11.140 --> 00:29:13.230
  • WHAT'S YOUR OPINION ON IT?
  • 00:29:13.250 --> 00:29:16.080
  • WHAT'S YOUR PERSPECTIVE OF IT?
  • 00:29:16.100 --> 00:29:18.100
  • SPEAK TO YOUNG COUPLES WHO MAY FACE THE TEMPTATION
  • 00:29:18.120 --> 00:29:20.140
  • TO TRY TO KEEP UP, DO MORE, BUY MORE.
  • 00:29:20.160 --> 00:29:24.070
  • - YEAH, YEAH, COMPARISON IS THE THIEF OF JOY.
  • 00:29:24.090 --> 00:29:27.160
  • AND IT'S ONE OF THE REALLY MESSAGES I THINK GOD'S EVEN
  • 00:29:27.180 --> 00:29:30.060
  • GIVEN ME A MANDATE TO TELL THE BODY OF CHRIST BECAUSE
  • 00:29:30.080 --> 00:29:31.280
  • SOCIAL MEDIA HAS CHANGED THE LANDSCAPE OF LIFE.
  • 00:29:32.000 --> 00:29:35.010
  • IT'S AMAZING HOW YOU CAN BE SO CONTENT WITH WHERE YOU
  • 00:29:35.030 --> 00:29:38.130
  • ARE AND SO HAPPY, BUT THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN AWARENESS
  • 00:29:38.150 --> 00:29:40.210
  • DRIVES DISCONTENTMENT.
  • 00:29:40.230 --> 00:29:43.040
  • CAN YOU IMAGINE HOW HAPPY YOU WOULD BE,
  • 00:29:43.060 --> 00:29:46.020
  • HOW HAPPY YOU'D BE WITH YOUR SPOUSE IF YOU JUST
  • 00:29:46.040 --> 00:29:47.200
  • DIDN'T KNOW. BUT NOW YOU GOT NOTIFICATIONS ON
  • 00:29:47.220 --> 00:29:50.000
  • YOUR SMART DEVICE THAT'S MAKING YOU STUPID.
  • 00:29:50.020 --> 00:29:52.130
  • SO YOU WERE SO HAPPY THAT YOUR SPOUSE GOT YOU A CAT
  • 00:29:52.150 --> 00:29:56.120
  • FOR VALENTINE'S DAY UNTIL YOU GOT ON FACEBOOK AND
  • 00:29:56.140 --> 00:29:58.220
  • SAW SOMEBODY ELSE'S SPOUSE GOT THEM A CADILLAC,
  • 00:29:58.240 --> 00:30:00.170
  • AND YOU'RE LIKE WHY CAN'T YOU DO BETTER?
  • 00:30:00.190 --> 00:30:02.090
  • I DIDN'T WANT THIS STUPID CAT ANYWAY!
  • 00:30:02.110 --> 00:30:04.090
  • SO I THINK IT'S JUST IMPERATIVE TO SOMETIMES GET
  • 00:30:04.110 --> 00:30:07.070
  • OFF OF THAT, JUST SHUT IT DOWN,
  • 00:30:07.090 --> 00:30:09.070
  • TO KNOW HEY. THAT'S AWESOME, THAT'S FOR THEM,
  • 00:30:09.090 --> 00:30:11.150
  • BUT THIS IS WHAT GOD HAS CALLED US TO DO.
  • 00:30:11.170 --> 00:30:13.200
  • WE WILL TAKE SOCIAL MEDIA BREAKS AND JUST KEEP OUR
  • 00:30:13.220 --> 00:30:17.290
  • EYES ON WHO JESUS IS AND WHAT HE'S CALLED US TO DO
  • 00:30:18.010 --> 00:30:20.290
  • BECAUSE THIS IS A SLIPPERY SLOPE WHEN YOU START
  • 00:30:21.010 --> 00:30:22.120
  • PLAYING THE COMPARISON GAME,
  • 00:30:22.140 --> 00:30:24.040
  • AND NOTHING WILL STEAL YOUR JOY MORE THAN
  • 00:30:24.060 --> 00:30:25.280
  • LOOKING AT SOMEBODY ELSE.
  • 00:30:26.000 --> 00:30:27.150
  • - LOVE IT. LOVE IT.
  • 00:30:27.170 --> 00:30:28.200
  • - AND LET'S BE HONEST, IT'S NOT REAL.
  • 00:30:28.220 --> 00:30:30.100
  • WE'LL LAUGH, SOMETIMES WE'LL POST A PICTURE AND
  • 00:30:30.120 --> 00:30:32.110
  • SOMEBODY WILL COMMENT,
  • 00:30:32.130 --> 00:30:33.210
  • "AWE, WE JUST WANT WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE."
  • 00:30:33.230 --> 00:30:36.000
  • - I'M LIKE, YOU DON'T KNOW US,
  • 00:30:36.020 --> 00:30:37.050
  • YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT WE HAVE.
  • 00:30:37.070 --> 00:30:38.150
  • I'D BE CAREFUL TO SAY THAT.
  • 00:30:38.170 --> 00:30:40.030
  • AND NOT TO MEAN THAT IN ANY NEGATIVE WAY,
  • 00:30:40.050 --> 00:30:43.250
  • BUT IT IS JUST SO FUNNY BECAUSE IT'S LIKE YOU CAN
  • 00:30:43.270 --> 00:30:46.100
  • JUST PUT OUT ANYTHING THAT YOU WANT TO AND
  • 00:30:46.120 --> 00:30:47.210
  • PAINT THIS FALSE PERSONA.
  • 00:30:47.230 --> 00:30:49.220
  • AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, THERE'S SO MANY PICTURES
  • 00:30:49.240 --> 00:30:52.010
  • THAT WE TAKE WITH FAMILY PICTURES THAT WE'RE
  • 00:30:52.030 --> 00:30:54.070
  • PERFECT, AND IT'S LIKE, BUT THEN LIKE IT LITERALLY TOOK
  • 00:30:54.090 --> 00:30:57.010
  • US LIKE TEN BILLION PHOTOS TO GET THAT PICTURE.
  • 00:30:57.030 --> 00:30:59.150
  • BUT THAT SUMS UP SOCIAL MEDIA.
  • 00:30:59.170 --> 00:31:01.080
  • IT'S JUST NOT REALISTIC, SO I JUST ENCOURAGE
  • 00:31:01.100 --> 00:31:03.030
  • EVERYONE JUST TO BE YOU.
  • 00:31:03.050 --> 00:31:05.200
  • AND YEAH, JUST YOUR GRACE FOR YOUR RACE.
  • 00:31:05.220 --> 00:31:09.070
  • - GREAT. WHAT HAS BEEN THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE
  • 00:31:09.090 --> 00:31:12.290
  • IN YOUR GUYS' MARRIAGE THUS FAR?
  • 00:31:13.010 --> 00:31:14.170
  • FIVE YEARS IN.
  • 00:31:14.190 --> 00:31:16.250
  • SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU FELT LIKE YOU'VE HAD TO
  • 00:31:16.270 --> 00:31:18.250
  • STRUGGLE THROUGH THE MOST, WORK AROUND THE MOST,
  • 00:31:18.270 --> 00:31:20.270
  • CHALLENGES, LIKE ANYTHING THAT COMES TO YOUR MIND.
  • 00:31:20.290 --> 00:31:23.250
  • - HOW MUCH TIME DO YOU GOT, NICK?
  • 00:31:23.270 --> 00:31:25.140
  • HOW MUCH TIME DO YOU GOT?
  • 00:31:25.160 --> 00:31:27.030
  • - A FEW MINUTES IF YOU CAN.
  • 00:31:27.050 --> 00:31:28.210
  • - NO, IT'S SO FUNNY, ONCE YOU GET MARRIED,
  • 00:31:28.230 --> 00:31:30.220
  • IT'S AMAZING HOW ALL THESE OTHER VOICES-- WE FOUND
  • 00:31:30.240 --> 00:31:33.130
  • THIS OUT THE DAY WE GOT MARRIED,
  • 00:31:33.150 --> 00:31:34.230
  • ALL THESE OTHER MARRIAGE EXPERTS COME INTO YOUR LIFE
  • 00:31:34.250 --> 00:31:37.070
  • WITH ALL THIS UNSOLICITED AND CONTRADICTORY ADVICE.
  • 00:31:37.090 --> 00:31:41.200
  • WHEN WE FIRST GOT MARRIED, ONE COUPLE WAS LIKE,
  • 00:31:41.220 --> 00:31:43.260
  • OH, WAIT TO HAVE KIDS. WAIT TO HAVE KIDS.
  • 00:31:43.280 --> 00:31:45.180
  • LEARN HOW TO BE A HUSBAND BEFORE YOU LEARN
  • 00:31:45.200 --> 00:31:47.130
  • HOW TO BE A FATHER.
  • 00:31:47.150 --> 00:31:48.200
  • AND ANOTHER COUPLE WAS LIKE HAVE THEM NOW,
  • 00:31:48.220 --> 00:31:50.040
  • THE SOONER YOU GET THEM IN, THE SOONER YOU GET THEM OUT
  • 00:31:50.060 --> 00:31:51.220
  • AND ENJOY YOUR RETIREMENT! [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:31:51.240 --> 00:31:54.220
  • SO IT'S SO FUNNY, YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL.
  • 00:31:54.240 --> 00:31:56.080
  • AND I'M NOT COMING AGAINST GODLY COUNSEL OR
  • 00:31:56.100 --> 00:31:58.190
  • HAVING PEOPLE SPEAK INTO YOUR LIFE,
  • 00:31:58.210 --> 00:31:59.280
  • BUT I THINK YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL WITH THE OTHER
  • 00:32:00.020 --> 00:32:01.250
  • VOICES THAT COME INTO YOUR MARRIAGE,
  • 00:32:01.270 --> 00:32:04.020
  • ESPECIALLY WHEN IT CAN BE CONTRADICTORY TO THE VISION
  • 00:32:04.040 --> 00:32:06.060
  • THAT GOD HAS GIVEN YOU FOR YOUR FAMILY.
  • 00:32:06.080 --> 00:32:08.260
  • IF YOU GO BACK TO THE GARDEN OF EDEN,
  • 00:32:08.280 --> 00:32:10.070
  • IT WAS THAT OTHER VOICE, THE SERPENT SNUCK OUT
  • 00:32:10.090 --> 00:32:12.250
  • THERE, AND THAT'S WHAT DESTROYED THE FIRST MARRIAGE.
  • 00:32:12.270 --> 00:32:15.140
  • SO I THINK WITH US, ONE OF THE THINGS WAS
  • 00:32:15.160 --> 00:32:16.210
  • IN-LAWS. I COME FROM--
  • 00:32:16.230 --> 00:32:20.020
  • - IN-LAWS. - IN-LAWS.
  • 00:32:20.040 --> 00:32:22.220
  • - MY FATHER, HE'S NIGERIAN.
  • 00:32:22.240 --> 00:32:25.160
  • - I LOVE MY IN-LAWS.
  • 00:32:25.180 --> 00:32:26.260
  • - THEY'RE AMAZING.
  • 00:32:26.280 --> 00:32:28.030
  • HE'S VERY VOCAL, AND HE'S MY BEST FRIEND.
  • 00:32:28.050 --> 00:32:30.230
  • I HAVE THE GREATEST DAD IN THE WORLD.
  • 00:32:30.250 --> 00:32:32.100
  • SO HE WAS, BECAUSE OF OUR RELATIONSHIP PRIOR TO OUR
  • 00:32:32.120 --> 00:32:34.170
  • MARRIAGE, HE WAS VERY QUICK TO GIVE ME HIS INSIGHT.
  • 00:32:34.190 --> 00:32:36.290
  • HE'S NIGERIAN, "SON, YOU SHOULD DO THIS."
  • 00:32:37.010 --> 00:32:39.090
  • "SON, THIS NEEDS TO HAPPEN IN YOUR LIFE."
  • 00:32:39.110 --> 00:32:41.060
  • "NO, DON'T GO THERE, GO HERE."
  • 00:32:41.080 --> 00:32:42.290
  • AND I WAS JUST LIKE THIS WAS MY LIFE.
  • 00:32:43.010 --> 00:32:45.210
  • AND SO I DIDN'T EVEN REALIZE IT UNTIL SHE
  • 00:32:45.230 --> 00:32:49.200
  • BROUGHT IT TO MY ATTENTION, HELLO, MARRIAGE.
  • 00:32:49.220 --> 00:32:51.200
  • SHE'S LIKE YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T MARRY YOUR DAD,
  • 00:32:51.220 --> 00:32:54.010
  • I MARRIED YOU, AND YOU ARE THE AUTHORITY FOR WHAT GOES
  • 00:32:54.030 --> 00:32:57.080
  • ON IN OUR HOUSEHOLD.
  • 00:32:57.100 --> 00:32:59.060
  • FOR THIS CALL SHALL A MAN LEAVE HIS MOTHER AND FATHER
  • 00:32:59.080 --> 00:33:02.220
  • AND CLEAVE TO HIS WIFE AND THE TWO BECOME ONE FLESH.
  • 00:33:02.240 --> 00:33:05.190
  • SO I FOUND MYSELF, A, NOT EVEN REALIZING IT
  • 00:33:05.210 --> 00:33:08.080
  • BUT HAVING TO HAVE SOME CRITICAL CONVERSATIONS
  • 00:33:08.100 --> 00:33:10.030
  • WITH MY FATHER, WHO I LOVE, WHO I HONOR
  • 00:33:10.050 --> 00:33:12.080
  • AND I RESPECT, BUT SAYING HEY DAD,
  • 00:33:12.100 --> 00:33:14.010
  • I LOVE YOU, BUT THIS IS WHAT GOD HAS ESTABLISHED,
  • 00:33:14.030 --> 00:33:16.260
  • AND I'M THE NEW AUTHORITY, AND WHAT I SAY
  • 00:33:16.280 --> 00:33:18.220
  • GOES IN THIS RELATIONSHIP.
  • 00:33:18.240 --> 00:33:21.030
  • THAT'S ONE CHALLENGE WE DEFINITELY HAD TO--
  • 00:33:21.050 --> 00:33:22.230
  • - I MEAN, REALITY IS IT'S HARD BECAUSE HE'S GROWN UP,
  • 00:33:22.250 --> 00:33:26.210
  • THAT'S ALL THAT HE'S EVER KNOWN.
  • 00:33:26.230 --> 00:33:28.040
  • SO OF COURSE HE DIDN'T SEE IT. THEN I GREW UP,
  • 00:33:28.060 --> 00:33:30.030
  • MY WAS FAMILY DYNAMIC WAS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.
  • 00:33:30.050 --> 00:33:31.140
  • SO I'M MISS INDEPENDENT.
  • 00:33:31.160 --> 00:33:33.070
  • NO ONE REALLY TELLS ME WHAT TO DO.
  • 00:33:33.090 --> 00:33:34.270
  • I'M PRETTY STRONG WILLED.
  • 00:33:34.290 --> 00:33:36.070
  • NO ONE TELLS ME WHAT TO DO IN THE SENSE I WAS
  • 00:33:36.090 --> 00:33:37.240
  • LIKE MOVED OUT OF THE HOUSE AT 18,
  • 00:33:37.260 --> 00:33:39.250
  • AND I WAS ON MY OWN VERSUS THEY ALL KIND OF LIVE
  • 00:33:39.270 --> 00:33:41.290
  • REALLY CLOSE TOGETHER, AND SUPER CLOSE FAMILY,
  • 00:33:42.010 --> 00:33:44.280
  • AND THEIR YOU KNOW, THEIR DAD HAS INPUT ON
  • 00:33:45.000 --> 00:33:48.180
  • EVERYTHING, WHICH IS GREAT, YOU KNOW,
  • 00:33:48.200 --> 00:33:50.230
  • BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I THINK WHENEVER IT COMES TO
  • 00:33:50.250 --> 00:33:53.180
  • US, THERE WERE A FEW TIMES WHERE I MAY POSSIBLY FELT
  • 00:33:53.200 --> 00:33:56.180
  • LIKE I WAS PUT ON THE BACK BURNER,
  • 00:33:56.200 --> 00:33:58.100
  • OR HIM AND HIS DAD WERE A TEAM AND I'M, YOU KNOW.
  • 00:33:58.120 --> 00:34:00.270
  • BUT OVER TIME, IT JUST TOOK GROWTH.
  • 00:34:00.290 --> 00:34:02.140
  • AND I LOVE MY IN-LAWS.
  • 00:34:02.160 --> 00:34:04.060
  • WE HAVE A GREAT RELATIONSHIP. BUT YEAH,
  • 00:34:04.080 --> 00:34:06.130
  • IT WAS WHENEVER MOMENTS WHERE HE WOULD STEP UP
  • 00:34:06.150 --> 00:34:08.280
  • AND SAY OKAY DAD, TAYLOR'S MARRIED TO ME,
  • 00:34:09.000 --> 00:34:11.110
  • WHEN HE PRIORITIZED ME, I WAS LIKE
  • 00:34:11.130 --> 00:34:13.200
  • GET IN THE BEDROOM, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?
  • 00:34:13.220 --> 00:34:15.260
  • [LAUGHTER] IT'S LIKE GET IN THERE.
  • 00:34:15.280 --> 00:34:18.030
  • BECAUSE IT JUST MEANT SO MUCH TO ME THAT HE JUST
  • 00:34:18.050 --> 00:34:20.020
  • MADE ME FEEL LIKE WE WERE A TEAM.
  • 00:34:20.040 --> 00:34:23.100
  • THERE'S NOTHING LIKE FEELING LIKE YOU'RE PUT ON
  • 00:34:23.120 --> 00:34:24.250
  • THE BACK BURNER WHEN YOUR SPOUSE PUTS YOU ON THE BACK
  • 00:34:24.270 --> 00:34:26.170
  • BURNER. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?
  • 00:34:26.190 --> 00:34:28.010
  • SO YEAH, THAT'S BEEN A CHALLENGE.
  • 00:34:28.030 --> 00:34:29.240
  • I WOULD SAY THAT ALSO FOR ME, ONCE AGAIN,
  • 00:34:29.260 --> 00:34:32.040
  • OUR UPBRINGINGS. THEY'VE BEEN SO DIFFERENT.
  • 00:34:32.060 --> 00:34:34.040
  • SO MY UPBRINGING, OF COURSE, I HAD TO BE CAREFUL
  • 00:34:34.060 --> 00:34:36.120
  • NOT TO CARRY MY PAST INTO OUR MARRIAGE.
  • 00:34:36.140 --> 00:34:39.000
  • AND I GREW UP GREAT FAMILY, BUT COME FROM A DIVORCED
  • 00:34:39.020 --> 00:34:42.250
  • FAMILY, SO THAT CREATED SOME VOIDS IN MY HEART AND
  • 00:34:42.270 --> 00:34:48.250
  • DIFFERENT THINGS, AND EVENTUALLY GOT INTO A BAD
  • 00:34:48.270 --> 00:34:50.220
  • RELATIONSHIP. THAT CREATED MORE VOIDS.
  • 00:34:50.240 --> 00:34:52.190
  • AND THEN I ENDED UP PREGNANT OUT OF WEDLOCK AT 17.
  • 00:34:52.210 --> 00:34:55.040
  • SO FOR ME, I STRUGGLED A TON WITH FEELING UNWORTHY
  • 00:34:55.060 --> 00:34:58.100
  • TO RECEIVE HIS LOVE, REALLY.
  • 00:34:58.120 --> 00:35:01.060
  • HE WAS A VIRGIN WHEN WE GOT MARRIED.
  • 00:35:01.080 --> 00:35:02.210
  • I REMEMBER ACTUALLY PRAYING TO GOD,
  • 00:35:02.230 --> 00:35:04.000
  • DON'T SEND ME A VIRGIN BECAUSE I FELT LIKE I WAS
  • 00:35:04.020 --> 00:35:05.210
  • UNWORTHY TO GET A VIRGIN, WHATEVER THAT MEANS.
  • 00:35:05.230 --> 00:35:07.130
  • YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING?
  • 00:35:07.150 --> 00:35:09.010
  • BUT I WAS LIKE, GOD, I FEEL SO UNWORTHY.
  • 00:35:09.030 --> 00:35:10.280
  • IT'S BEEN A CHALLENGE OF ME LEARNING GRACE ON GRACE ON
  • 00:35:11.000 --> 00:35:14.080
  • GRACE, AND HOW TO RECEIVE HIS LOVE.
  • 00:35:14.100 --> 00:35:18.100
  • AND THEN ALSO, LIKE I SAID, I GOT PREGNANT
  • 00:35:18.120 --> 00:35:20.240
  • OUT OF WEDLOCK AT 17, AND I CARRIED MY LITTLE BOY FOR
  • 00:35:20.260 --> 00:35:23.110
  • 32 WEEKS. AT 32 WEEKS, CHRISTMAS EVE OF 2005,
  • 00:35:23.130 --> 00:35:27.240
  • I GAVE BIRTH AND HE WAS STILLBORN.
  • 00:35:27.260 --> 00:35:30.110
  • AND SO HE HAD LOST OXYGEN IN THE PROCESS OF THE
  • 00:35:30.130 --> 00:35:34.180
  • C-SECTION, SO HE DIDN'T SURVIVE.
  • 00:35:34.200 --> 00:35:36.250
  • SO THAT WAS WHERE LIKE A ROOT OF FEAR CAME INTO MY
  • 00:35:36.270 --> 00:35:39.200
  • LIFE. SO FEAR FROM REALLY ALL ANGLES.
  • 00:35:39.220 --> 00:35:43.110
  • SO I CARRIED FEAR INTO OUR MARRIAGE.
  • 00:35:43.130 --> 00:35:45.260
  • FEAR OF LOSING LOVED ONES, FEAR OF WHEN I GOT PREGNANT
  • 00:35:45.280 --> 00:35:50.030
  • WAS I GONNA BE ABLE TO CARRY FULL TERM
  • 00:35:50.050 --> 00:35:52.170
  • AND GIVE US BABIES. FEAR OF WHEN HE TRAVELS
  • 00:35:52.190 --> 00:35:56.240
  • BECAUSE I JUST REALIZED BAD THINGS HAPPEN TO GOOD
  • 00:35:56.260 --> 00:35:58.260
  • PEOPLE ALL THE TIME, SO I'M NOT ELIMINATED TO
  • 00:35:58.280 --> 00:36:00.160
  • BAD THINGS HAPPENING.
  • 00:36:00.180 --> 00:36:02.010
  • SO JUST FEAR CREPT CONSTANTLY IN EVERY ANGLE.
  • 00:36:02.030 --> 00:36:05.110
  • BUT IT WAS SOMETHING THAT, ONCE AGAIN,
  • 00:36:05.130 --> 00:36:07.190
  • IT'S JUST BEEN OUR JOURNEY, BUT--
  • 00:36:07.210 --> 00:36:09.110
  • - WE FOUGHT AGAINST IT.
  • 00:36:09.130 --> 00:36:10.230
  • THE BIBLE SAYS PERFECT LOVE CASTS OUT ALL FEAR.
  • 00:36:10.250 --> 00:36:12.200
  • I REMEMBER HOLDING HANDS WHEN WE FIRST GOT PREGNANT
  • 00:36:12.220 --> 00:36:15.150
  • WITH OUR DAUGHTER, EVIE, AND JUST COMING AGAINST THE
  • 00:36:15.170 --> 00:36:17.200
  • LIE OF THE ENEMY.
  • 00:36:17.220 --> 00:36:19.010
  • AND IT'S AMAZING TO SEE GOD'S FULL CIRCLE
  • 00:36:19.030 --> 00:36:21.030
  • RESTORATION, TWO HEALTHY BEAUTIFUL KIDS,
  • 00:36:21.050 --> 00:36:22.270
  • THIRD ONE ON THE WAY. SO YOU KNOW.
  • 00:36:22.290 --> 00:36:27.040
  • - MATT CROUCH: LET'S TALK ABOUT SOME SPARKS GOING ON
  • 00:36:29.060 --> 00:36:31.010
  • HERE, BUT WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT TODAY?
  • 00:36:31.030 --> 00:36:32.270
  • - JOEL OSTEEN: WELL MATT, NUMBER ONE REQUEST WE GET
  • 00:36:32.290 --> 00:36:34.190
  • IN OUR MINISTRY IS FOR HELP IN RELATIONSHIPS,
  • 00:36:34.210 --> 00:36:37.100
  • AND SO EVERYWHERE WE GO, PEOPLE STRUGGLE.
  • 00:36:37.120 --> 00:36:39.170
  • AND IT SEEMS LIKE A LOT OF THINGS COME AGAINST THE
  • 00:36:39.190 --> 00:36:41.200
  • FAMILY, SO WE'VE GOT SOME GREAT PEOPLE HERE WITH US
  • 00:36:41.220 --> 00:36:44.110
  • TODAY JUST TO HELP ENCOURAGE US IN OUR
  • 00:36:44.130 --> 00:36:46.060
  • RELATIONSHIPS. IT CAN BE DIFFICULT AT TIMES,
  • 00:36:46.080 --> 00:36:49.060
  • BUT WHEN YOU STAY COMMITTED,
  • 00:36:49.080 --> 00:36:51.200
  • WHEN YOU DO WHAT YOU NEED TO DO,
  • 00:36:51.220 --> 00:36:54.020
  • GOD WILL HELP YOU KEEP YOUR RELATIONSHIPS TOGETHER.
  • 00:36:54.040 --> 00:36:56.110
  • SO THAT'S WHAT TONIGHT'S GONNA BE ABOUT,
  • 00:36:56.130 --> 00:36:58.090
  • AND THAT'S WHAT THE SPARK CONFERENCE IS ABOUT.
  • 00:36:58.110 --> 00:37:00.160
  • - VICTORIA OSTEEN: I THINK PEOPLE NEED TO USE
  • 00:37:00.180 --> 00:37:02.070
  • RESOURCES THAT THEY HAVE TO ENRICH THEIR MARRIAGE,
  • 00:37:02.090 --> 00:37:04.250
  • TO LEARN, HAVE TOOLS TO JUST HAVE BETTER MARRIAGES.
  • 00:37:04.270 --> 00:37:09.070
  • YOU KNOW IF YOU'RE GONNA HAVE SOMETHING GOOD,
  • 00:37:09.090 --> 00:37:11.020
  • YOU HAVE TO WORK AT IT.
  • 00:37:11.040 --> 00:37:12.220
  • YOU CAN'T JUST PUT THAT MARRIAGE ON CRUISE CONTROL
  • 00:37:12.240 --> 00:37:16.080
  • AND JUST, OKAY, WE'RE GONNA DO THE SAME THING ALL THE
  • 00:37:16.100 --> 00:37:18.270
  • TIME. WE HAVE TO ALWAYS BE GETTING BETTER.
  • 00:37:18.290 --> 00:37:21.220
  • I LOVE THE SCRIPTURE THAT SAYS THAT OUR LOVE IS TO
  • 00:37:21.240 --> 00:37:24.210
  • ABOUND IN KNOWLEDGE AND DEPTH OF INSIGHT.
  • 00:37:24.230 --> 00:37:28.110
  • IT'S TO GROW AND ABOUND IN KNOWLEDGE
  • 00:37:28.130 --> 00:37:30.160
  • AND DEPTH OF INSIGHT.
  • 00:37:30.180 --> 00:37:32.250
  • AND YOU KNOW THAT WHAT THAT ALWAYS SPEAKS TO
  • 00:37:32.270 --> 00:37:34.130
  • MY HEART ABOUT?
  • 00:37:34.150 --> 00:37:36.020
  • IS THAT I'M NOT SUPPOSED TO LOVE JOEL THE EXACT SAME WAY
  • 00:37:36.040 --> 00:37:38.070
  • I DID WHEN WE FIRST GOT MARRIED 30 YEARS AGO.
  • 00:37:38.090 --> 00:37:41.120
  • WE'VE BEEN MARRIED 30 YEARS. JUST THOUGHT I'D PLUG THAT.
  • 00:37:41.140 --> 00:37:43.280
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:37:44.000 --> 00:37:48.220
  • BUT YOU KNOW, WE CHANGE AS PEOPLE.
  • 00:37:48.240 --> 00:37:51.040
  • WE GO THROUGH DIFFERENT SEASONS.
  • 00:37:51.060 --> 00:37:53.020
  • YOU HAVE CHILDREN. YOUR CHILDREN GROW.
  • 00:37:53.040 --> 00:37:55.030
  • YOU GET NEW JOBS. YOU HAVE NEW RESPONSIBILITIES.
  • 00:37:55.050 --> 00:37:58.170
  • SO YOU HAVE TO STUDY AND ADAPT TO ONE ANOTHER.
  • 00:37:58.190 --> 00:38:00.230
  • SO I THINK A CONFERENCE LIKE THIS HELPS PEOPLE JUST LEARN
  • 00:38:00.250 --> 00:38:05.020
  • HOW TO LOVE ONE ANOTHER, RESPECT ONE ANOTHER.
  • 00:38:05.040 --> 00:38:08.000
  • ONE OF THE KEY THINGS IN MARRIAGE IS RESPECT.
  • 00:38:08.020 --> 00:38:10.130
  • I THINK EVERYBODY WOULD AGREE WITH THAT.
  • 00:38:10.150 --> 00:38:12.050
  • - I THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT THING, THOUGH,
  • 00:38:12.070 --> 00:38:14.260
  • WOULD BE TO DETERMINE HAVE YOU GUYS EVER HAD A FIGHT?
  • 00:38:14.280 --> 00:38:17.200
  • - I DON'T FIGHT. I'M CALM, COOL AND COLLECT.
  • 00:38:17.220 --> 00:38:21.140
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:38:21.160 --> 00:38:23.180
  • - CAN I LIE HERE ON TV?
  • 00:38:23.200 --> 00:38:25.090
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:38:25.110 --> 00:38:27.000
  • YOU KNOW WHAT?
  • 00:38:27.020 --> 00:38:28.210
  • I THINK WE ALL DO, MATT, AND I DON'T WANT TO SOUND SUPER
  • 00:38:28.230 --> 00:38:30.160
  • SPIRITUAL, BUT YOU HAVE TO GROW TO DISAGREE, AND YOU DO
  • 00:38:30.180 --> 00:38:32.160
  • IT RESPECTFULLY BECAUSE NO TWO PEOPLE ARE EVER GOING TO
  • 00:38:32.180 --> 00:38:34.260
  • AGREE ALL THE TIME.
  • 00:38:34.280 --> 00:38:36.190
  • BUT YOU KNOW, I THINK IF YOU CAN KEEP RESPECT IN THE
  • 00:38:36.210 --> 00:38:39.240
  • RELATIONSHIP, I THINK THAT'S WHERE I SEE -- I'M NOT A
  • 00:38:39.260 --> 00:38:44.030
  • RELATIONSHIP EXPERT, BUT WHEN I SEE PEOPLE START
  • 00:38:44.050 --> 00:38:46.290
  • DRIFTING APART, IT'S BECAUSE THEY START LOSING RESPECT
  • 00:38:47.010 --> 00:38:49.020
  • AND SAYING THINGS THAT THEY SHOULDN'T SAY.
  • 00:38:49.040 --> 00:38:51.010
  • WHEN YOU START LETTING YOUR GUARD DOWN LIKE THAT, YOU
  • 00:38:51.030 --> 00:38:53.210
  • CAN BEGIN TO GROW APART.
  • 00:38:53.230 --> 00:38:55.220
  • BUT I BELIEVE THAT WITH GOD'S HELP, WE CAN TREAT
  • 00:38:55.240 --> 00:38:58.130
  • EACH OTHER WITH RESPECT.
  • 00:38:58.150 --> 00:39:00.120
  • WE CAN RISE ABOVE IT.
  • 00:39:00.140 --> 00:39:02.100
  • WE CAN BE AN EAGLE AND OVERLOOK THINGS.
  • 00:39:02.120 --> 00:39:04.080
  • I MEAN, I KNOW MOST OF THE PEOPLE KNOW LOVE OVERLOOKS
  • 00:39:04.100 --> 00:39:06.120
  • OFFENSES, LOVE MAKES ALLOWANCES
  • 00:39:06.140 --> 00:39:08.140
  • FOR PEOPLE'S MISTAKES. NOBODY IS PERFECT.
  • 00:39:08.160 --> 00:39:11.050
  • I WAS EVEN TALKING AT A CHURCH JUST RECENTLY, MATT,
  • 00:39:11.070 --> 00:39:14.050
  • ABOUT I CALLED IT JUST "STAYING COMMITTED".
  • 00:39:14.070 --> 00:39:16.130
  • I FOUND JUST DEALING WITH PEOPLE IN LIFE, BEING A
  • 00:39:16.150 --> 00:39:19.180
  • PASTOR FOR THESE LAST 16 YEARS AND GROWING UP A
  • 00:39:19.200 --> 00:39:22.230
  • PASTOR'S KID, SOMETIMES, GOOD PEOPLE CAN MAKE MISTAKES.
  • 00:39:22.250 --> 00:39:27.020
  • PEOPLE THAT LOVE YOU CAN LET YOU DOWN, AND IT'S THE
  • 00:39:27.040 --> 00:39:29.200
  • PEOPLE THAT CAN SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT?
  • 00:39:29.220 --> 00:39:31.250
  • I'M IN THIS FOR THE LONG HAUL.
  • 00:39:31.270 --> 00:39:33.200
  • GOD COMMITTED US. WE COMMITTED TO EACH OTHER.
  • 00:39:33.220 --> 00:39:37.030
  • WE'RE COMMITTED TO GOD, AND WE'RE GOING TO BOUNCE
  • 00:39:37.050 --> 00:39:38.290
  • THROUGH THESE BUMPY TIMES.
  • 00:39:39.010 --> 00:39:40.240
  • AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT I SAW EVEN WITH MY PARENTS
  • 00:39:40.260 --> 00:39:43.090
  • AND VICTORIA AND I.
  • 00:39:43.110 --> 00:39:45.000
  • LIKE ANY COUPLE, YOU HAVE THOSE BUMPS IN THE ROAD, BUT
  • 00:39:45.020 --> 00:39:47.090
  • YOU HAVE TO JUST MAKE THE COMMITMENT THAT LEAVING
  • 00:39:47.110 --> 00:39:49.180
  • IS NOT AN OPTION. I'M COMMITTED TO YOU.
  • 00:39:49.200 --> 00:39:51.140
  • I'M COMMITTED TO LOVING YOU, AND I'M GOING TO LOVE YOU IN
  • 00:39:51.160 --> 00:39:53.130
  • THE GOOD TIMES AND IN THE TOUGH TIMES.
  • 00:39:53.150 --> 00:39:55.050
  • - OKAY, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MARRIAGE.
  • 00:39:55.070 --> 00:39:57.000
  • WE ARE THE SENIORS HERE.
  • 00:39:57.020 --> 00:39:59.060
  • WE'VE BEEN MARRIED 32 YEARS.
  • 00:39:59.080 --> 00:40:00.220
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:40:00.240 --> 00:40:04.040
  • MY MOM WOULD ALWAYS SAY SOMETHING TO LAURIE AND I,
  • 00:40:04.060 --> 00:40:07.020
  • AND BY THE WAY, SHE FOUND LAURIE IN AN ELEVATOR,
  • 00:40:07.040 --> 00:40:10.270
  • LITERALLY IN AN ELEVATOR; GOT ON AN ELEVATOR AND SAID,
  • 00:40:10.290 --> 00:40:15.010
  • DO YOU MIND IF I ASK HOW OLD YOU ARE?
  • 00:40:15.030 --> 00:40:16.260
  • I'D LIKE FOR TO YOU MEET MY SON.
  • 00:40:16.280 --> 00:40:18.270
  • SO MY MOM BASICALLY -- I TOTALLY AM GOOD WITH
  • 00:40:18.290 --> 00:40:22.290
  • ARRANGED MARRIAGES, BY THE WAY.
  • 00:40:23.010 --> 00:40:24.130
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:40:24.150 --> 00:40:26.140
  • AND WE GOT MARRIAGE MODELED FOR US.
  • 00:40:26.160 --> 00:40:29.080
  • MY MOM SAID TO HER ONE TIME, AND IT REALLY KIND OF STUCK
  • 00:40:29.100 --> 00:40:32.170
  • ON BOTH OF US.
  • 00:40:32.190 --> 00:40:34.090
  • SHE WAS TALKING TO LAURIE, AND SHE SAID, "YOU WON'T
  • 00:40:34.110 --> 00:40:36.220
  • EVEN UNDERSTAND WHAT LOVE IS UNTIL YOU'VE BEEN
  • 00:40:36.240 --> 00:40:39.160
  • MARRIED 25 YEARS."
  • 00:40:39.180 --> 00:40:41.140
  • - AND I REALIZED THAT WHEN WE HIT -- WHEN WE
  • 00:40:41.160 --> 00:40:44.100
  • STARTED GETTING CLOSE TO 25, I WAS GOING,
  • 00:40:44.120 --> 00:40:46.260
  • OKAY, YOU KNOW WHAT?
  • 00:40:46.280 --> 00:40:49.010
  • I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND WHAT MOM WAS TALKING ABOUT.
  • 00:40:49.030 --> 00:40:51.260
  • AND YOU KNOW, THERE ARE SO MANY MARRIAGE THAT'S
  • 00:40:51.280 --> 00:40:54.140
  • WILL NEVER SEE THAT.
  • 00:40:54.160 --> 00:40:56.190
  • THERE'S DIVORCE IN MARRIAGES, AND I PERSONALLY,
  • 00:40:56.210 --> 00:41:00.270
  • I LOVE TO LISTEN TO PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN
  • 00:41:00.290 --> 00:41:02.230
  • MARRIED FOR YEARS.
  • 00:41:02.250 --> 00:41:04.140
  • IT GIVES ME HOT GIGGLES ON THE INSIDE BECAUSE YOU'VE
  • 00:41:04.160 --> 00:41:06.210
  • COME THROUGH SO MUCH.
  • 00:41:06.230 --> 00:41:08.170
  • YOU DON'T MARRY YOUR SOUL MATE.
  • 00:41:08.190 --> 00:41:10.210
  • YOU MAKE YOUR SOUL MATE.
  • 00:41:10.230 --> 00:41:12.230
  • - CREATE IT.
  • 00:41:12.250 --> 00:41:14.150
  • - YOU CREATE YOUR SOUL MATE.
  • 00:41:14.170 --> 00:41:16.090
  • - SPARK CONFERENCE, LAKEWOOD CHURCH. WATCH THIS.
  • 00:41:16.110 --> 00:41:18.110
  • - HOW MANY YEARS HAVE YOU GUYS BEEN MARRIED.
  • 00:41:18.130 --> 00:41:20.100
  • - WE'RE ACTUALLY CELEBRATING FIVE YEARS
  • 00:41:20.120 --> 00:41:23.080
  • NEXT WEEK, FIVE YEARS OF MARRIAGE.
  • 00:41:23.100 --> 00:41:26.170
  • - FIVE YEARS?
  • 00:41:26.190 --> 00:41:28.110
  • - YEP, BEEN 12, OR I GUESS 11 BECAUSE WE DATED 6.
  • 00:41:28.130 --> 00:41:31.140
  • THAT'S A STORY WITHIN ITSELF.
  • 00:41:31.160 --> 00:41:35.110
  • - I DIDN'T KNOW THAT WAS GOING TO COME.
  • 00:41:35.130 --> 00:41:37.090
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:41:37.110 --> 00:41:39.090
  • - FIVE YEARS, THREE KIDS. - YES, SIR.
  • 00:41:39.110 --> 00:41:41.100
  • - LITTLE CRAZY, RIGHT? - ABSOLUTELY.
  • 00:41:41.120 --> 00:41:43.150
  • - LIFE AI BIG CRAZY. - YEAH, FOR SURE.
  • 00:41:43.170 --> 00:41:45.200
  • - LET'S REWIND FIRST AND JUST TALK ABOUT HOW YOU GUYS
  • 00:41:45.220 --> 00:41:49.020
  • FIRST MET AND WHAT THAT WAS LIKE.
  • 00:41:49.040 --> 00:41:51.100
  • CAN YOU JUST GIVE US A QUICK WINDOW INTO WHAT THAT SEASON
  • 00:41:51.120 --> 00:41:53.090
  • WAS LIKE FOR Y'ALL?
  • 00:41:53.110 --> 00:41:55.040
  • - ABSOLUTELY. I WAS SCHEDULED -- I WAS IN MY LAST YEAR OF
  • 00:41:55.060 --> 00:41:59.170
  • BIBLE COLLEGE, ACTUALLY, AND I WAS AT SOUTHWESTERN ASSEMBLIES
  • 00:41:59.190 --> 00:42:03.100
  • OF GOD UNIVERSITY. SHE WAS AT CHRIST FOR THE NATIONS, AND I
  • 00:42:03.120 --> 00:42:06.120
  • GET A CALL OUT OF THE BLUE TO COME SPEAK AT HER UNIVERSITY.
  • 00:42:06.140 --> 00:42:09.230
  • THEY HAD A SPEAKER THAT HAD CANCELED LAST MINUTE,
  • 00:42:09.250 --> 00:42:11.250
  • WASN'T ABLE TO BE THERE, AND THEY WERE DECIDING WHO THEY
  • 00:42:11.270 --> 00:42:13.270
  • WERE GOING GET LAST MINUTE TO COME AND SPEAK.
  • 00:42:13.290 --> 00:42:15.240
  • SO I GOT A CALL TO COME SPEAK.
  • 00:42:15.260 --> 00:42:17.120
  • THEY DIDN'T EVEN KNOW I WAS STILL IN BIBLE COLLEGE.
  • 00:42:17.140 --> 00:42:19.280
  • SO THEY CALLED ME AND SAID HEY, CAN YOU COME AND IMPART
  • 00:42:20.000 --> 00:42:22.020
  • TO OUR STUDENTS AT THIS UNIVERSITY?
  • 00:42:22.040 --> 00:42:23.130
  • I SAID, YES, ABSOLUTELY.
  • 00:42:23.150 --> 00:42:25.080
  • I WOULD LOVE TO HELP YOUR BIBLE COLLEGE STUDENTS,
  • 00:42:25.100 --> 00:42:26.150
  • AS I'M STILL ONE.
  • 00:42:26.170 --> 00:42:28.030
  • AND I GO SPEAK AT HER UNIVERSITY, AND THE NIGHT
  • 00:42:28.050 --> 00:42:30.220
  • THAT I SPOKE, THEY SHOWED HER VIDEO.
  • 00:42:30.240 --> 00:42:33.150
  • THEY SHOWED LIKE A TESTIMONIAL VIDEO OF
  • 00:42:33.170 --> 00:42:35.070
  • DIFFERENT STUDENTS, AND THEY SHOWED HER TESTIMONY VIDEO,
  • 00:42:35.090 --> 00:42:37.140
  • AND WE HAD A MUTUAL FRIEND WHO HAD ALWAYS WANTED TO
  • 00:42:37.160 --> 00:42:41.060
  • HOOK US UP WHO WORKED AT MY SCHOOL.
  • 00:42:41.080 --> 00:42:43.000
  • SO AFTER THAT NIGHT, I GET TO SCHOOL THE NEXT DAY, AND
  • 00:42:43.020 --> 00:42:45.170
  • SHE WAS LIKE, OH, MY GOODNESS. OH, MY GOODNESS.
  • 00:42:45.190 --> 00:42:47.200
  • WAS THAT YOU GETTING READY TO SPEAK AT THE SCHOOL?
  • 00:42:47.220 --> 00:42:49.200
  • I SAID, YEAH.
  • 00:42:49.220 --> 00:42:51.130
  • SHE SAID, DID YOU SEE THE GIRL ON THE SCREEN?
  • 00:42:51.150 --> 00:42:53.110
  • I SAID THE CUTE GIRL WITH THE ARKANSAS ACCENT?
  • 00:42:53.130 --> 00:42:54.270
  • SHE SAID, YES.
  • 00:42:54.290 --> 00:42:56.230
  • I'VE BEEN WANTING TO HOOK Y'ALL UP FOR THE LONGEST,
  • 00:42:56.250 --> 00:42:58.290
  • BUT I NEVER SAID ANYTHING BUT THE FACT THAT YOU SPOKE
  • 00:42:59.010 --> 00:43:00.280
  • AND SHE WAS THERE, Y'ALL HAVE TO MEET.
  • 00:43:01.000 --> 00:43:02.120
  • Y'ALL HAVE TO MEET.
  • 00:43:02.140 --> 00:43:04.030
  • AND SO WE WOULD CREATE THIS WHOLE GROUP DATE THAT
  • 00:43:04.050 --> 00:43:06.290
  • WAS SO AWKWARD BECAUSE EVERYBODY KNEW IT WAS JUST
  • 00:43:07.010 --> 00:43:09.000
  • FOR US TWO TO MEET, AND THAT'S HOW
  • 00:43:09.020 --> 00:43:10.120
  • WE ORIGINALLY MET.
  • 00:43:10.140 --> 00:43:12.180
  • - ANYTHING YOU CAN ADD TO THIS FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE?
  • 00:43:12.200 --> 00:43:15.040
  • - MY PERSPECTIVE. I GUESS, WELL, SO...
  • 00:43:15.060 --> 00:43:20.050
  • I ALWAYS FEEL MORE SPIRITUAL THAN HIM BECAUSE I KNEW FROM
  • 00:43:20.070 --> 00:43:23.270
  • DAY ONE THAT THIS WAS GOING TO BE MY BABY DADDY.
  • 00:43:23.290 --> 00:43:26.110
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:43:26.130 --> 00:43:30.030
  • HE ALWAYS SAYS, USUALLY HE SAYS HE WASN'T SURE ABOUT ME.
  • 00:43:30.050 --> 00:43:32.280
  • HE'S JUST TRYING TO FRONT A LITTLE BIT.
  • 00:43:33.000 --> 00:43:35.160
  • HE WASN'T REAL SURE ABOUT ME.
  • 00:43:35.180 --> 00:43:37.070
  • BUT FOR ME, I'M NOT GOING TO SAY THAT GOD SPOKE TO
  • 00:43:37.090 --> 00:43:39.240
  • ME AND SHOWED ME THAT HE WAS THE ONE.
  • 00:43:39.260 --> 00:43:41.130
  • HOWEVER, I ALWAYS FELT IN MY HEART THAT HE WAS SOMEONE
  • 00:43:41.150 --> 00:43:44.230
  • THAT I COULD SEE MYSELF WITH FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE.
  • 00:43:44.250 --> 00:43:48.060
  • LIKE I SAID, OR LIKE WE SAID EARLIER, WE DATED ON AND OFF
  • 00:43:48.080 --> 00:43:51.240
  • SIX YEARS, SO IT WAS A LONG JOURNEY AND A
  • 00:43:51.260 --> 00:43:53.290
  • LOT OF BREAK UPS.
  • 00:43:54.010 --> 00:43:56.090
  • THERE WAS ONE POINT WHERE I THINK HE BROKE UP WITH ME
  • 00:43:56.110 --> 00:44:00.170
  • FOR LIKE THE 57.000TH TIME... [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:44:00.190 --> 00:44:05.270
  • IT'S OKAY, IT'S JUST OUR JOURNEY, BUT IT WAS IN THAT
  • 00:44:05.290 --> 00:44:08.120
  • MOMENT AS HE WAS WALKING OUT, IT WAS HIM WALKING OUT,
  • 00:44:08.140 --> 00:44:12.160
  • AND IT TRIGGERED A FEW MOMENTS FROM MY UPBRINGING
  • 00:44:12.180 --> 00:44:17.070
  • THAT I REALIZED, WAIT A MINUTE.
  • 00:44:17.090 --> 00:44:19.290
  • LIKE I'M PUTTING THESE UNREALISTIC EXPECTATIONS ON
  • 00:44:20.010 --> 00:44:22.110
  • ROBERT TO FILL A LOT OF VOIDS IN MY HEART THAT HAD
  • 00:44:22.130 --> 00:44:24.260
  • BEEN PLACED THERE FROM GROWING UP
  • 00:44:24.280 --> 00:44:26.290
  • IN MY CHILDHOOD.
  • 00:44:27.010 --> 00:44:28.270
  • SO FROM THERE, I JUST REALIZED THAT HE COULDN'T
  • 00:44:28.290 --> 00:44:32.170
  • FULFILL SOME OF THOSE VOIDS IN ANY HEART.
  • 00:44:32.190 --> 00:44:34.160
  • SO REJECTION ACTUALLY BECAME MY FRIEND BECAUSE IT LED ME
  • 00:44:34.180 --> 00:44:37.260
  • TO A MOMENT WHEN I REALIZED I NEED JESUS.
  • 00:44:37.280 --> 00:44:40.030
  • ONLY JESUS COULD FULL THESE VOIDS.
  • 00:44:40.050 --> 00:44:42.070
  • SO WITH THAT BEING SUCCESS...
  • 00:44:42.090 --> 00:44:43.230
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:44:43.250 --> 00:44:46.210
  • SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, OVER TIME, I JUST REALIZED
  • 00:44:46.230 --> 00:44:52.100
  • THAT HEALTHY PEOPLE, HEALTHY INDIVIDUALS,
  • 00:44:52.120 --> 00:44:55.030
  • CREATE HEALTHY RELATIONSHIPS.
  • 00:44:55.050 --> 00:44:57.000
  • AND SO I TOOK TIME JUST BY MYSELF REALLY DISCOVERING
  • 00:44:57.020 --> 00:44:59.230
  • WHO I WAS AND ALLOWING JESUS TO DO WHAT ONLY HE COULD DO.
  • 00:44:59.250 --> 00:45:02.090
  • AND FROM THERE, ALL OF THE SUDDEN I CAME BACK MORE
  • 00:45:02.110 --> 00:45:04.270
  • HEALTHY, AND HE HAD A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE,
  • 00:45:04.290 --> 00:45:06.210
  • AND WE WERE MARRIED.
  • 00:45:06.230 --> 00:45:09.060
  • - YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.
  • 00:45:09.080 --> 00:45:10.240
  • JUST EVEN TO GIVE SOME CONTEXT TO THE SIX YEARS
  • 00:45:10.260 --> 00:45:12.120
  • BECAUSE WE LAUGH ABOUT IT BECAUSE IT WAS ALWAYS ME WHO
  • 00:45:12.140 --> 00:45:14.010
  • WAS CALLING IT OFF SAYING, OH, NO AND HERE'S WHY.
  • 00:45:14.030 --> 00:45:16.090
  • I HAD SOME AMAZING PASTORS, SOME AMAZING MENTORS IN MY
  • 00:45:16.110 --> 00:45:18.290
  • LIFE WHO WOULD GRAB ME BY THE LAPEL AND SAY, ROBERT
  • 00:45:19.010 --> 00:45:22.160
  • LET ME TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, THE MOST IMPORTANT DECISION
  • 00:45:22.180 --> 00:45:25.180
  • YOU WILL EVER MAKE, AFTER YOUR DECISION TO FOLLOW
  • 00:45:25.200 --> 00:45:27.220
  • JESUS, IS WHO YOU WILL MARRY.
  • 00:45:27.240 --> 00:45:30.030
  • I KNOW MINISTERS WHO CRY THEMSELVES TO SLEEP TONIGHT
  • 00:45:30.050 --> 00:45:32.280
  • BECAUSE THEY PICKED THE WRONG PERSON, AND THEY WERE
  • 00:45:33.000 --> 00:45:35.020
  • CALLED TO MINISTRY.
  • 00:45:35.040 --> 00:45:36.210
  • YOU BETTER MAKE SURE YOUR WIFE IS MINISTRY-MINDED OF
  • 00:45:36.230 --> 00:45:39.010
  • THE SO AFTER THAT CONVERSATION, I WALK AWAY
  • 00:45:39.030 --> 00:45:41.210
  • WITH MY EYES OPEN GOING, WHAT DOES A MINISTRY
  • 00:45:41.230 --> 00:45:43.120
  • WIFE LOOK LIKE?
  • 00:45:43.140 --> 00:45:44.280
  • DOES SHE FLOAT IN THE ROOM?
  • 00:45:45.000 --> 00:45:47.020
  • DOES SHE HAVE COMMUNION FOR BREAKFAST?
  • 00:45:47.040 --> 00:45:49.160
  • IS IT MOTHER TERESA?
  • 00:45:49.180 --> 00:45:52.060
  • WHAT EXACTLY AM I LOOKING FOR?
  • 00:45:52.080 --> 00:45:55.110
  • SO THOSE VOICES, THEY DIDN'T MEAN TO DO THAT, BUT
  • 00:45:55.130 --> 00:45:57.160
  • THOSE VOICES CREATED UNREALISTIC EXPECTATIONS.
  • 00:45:57.180 --> 00:46:00.200
  • SO I FOUND MYSELF IN NORMAL HUMAN FLAWS GOING OH,
  • 00:46:00.220 --> 00:46:06.120
  • THAT'S A SIGN. YOU AIN'T FOR ME.
  • 00:46:06.140 --> 00:46:08.150
  • I'M CALLED TO MINISTRY.
  • 00:46:08.170 --> 00:46:10.110
  • AND I WOULD BACK AWAY, AND GOD REALLY HAD TO SHINE THE
  • 00:46:10.130 --> 00:46:12.190
  • LIGHT ON MY HEART AND JUST GIVE ME A CLEAR PRINCIPLE
  • 00:46:12.210 --> 00:46:15.080
  • THAT WE ARE ALL FLAWED.
  • 00:46:15.100 --> 00:46:17.040
  • WE ARE ALL #JACKED UP, AND THE PERSON THAT YOU'RE
  • 00:46:17.060 --> 00:46:20.040
  • LOOKING TO BE IN A RELATIONSHIP WITH
  • 00:46:20.060 --> 00:46:23.030
  • IS MESSED UP, TOO.
  • 00:46:23.050 --> 00:46:24.190
  • AND I THEY WE REALLY HAVE TO APPROACH OUR MARRIAGE THE
  • 00:46:24.210 --> 00:46:26.080
  • SAME WAY GOD APPROACHES US AND OUR RELATIONSHIP, AND
  • 00:46:26.100 --> 00:46:27.260
  • THAT IS GRACE TO CHANGE.
  • 00:46:27.280 --> 00:46:29.170
  • I BELIEVE INCOMPATIBILITY.
  • 00:46:29.190 --> 00:46:31.190
  • THERE'S A CERTAIN LEVEL OF COMPATIBILITY, BUT I OFTEN
  • 00:46:31.210 --> 00:46:34.280
  • SAY EVERYBODY'S IN COMPATIBLE BECAUSE WE ARE ALL FLAWED.
  • 00:46:35.000 --> 00:46:37.100
  • EVEN IF YOU THINK YOU FOUND THE ABSOLUTE RIGHT PERSON,
  • 00:46:37.120 --> 00:46:39.140
  • KEEP LIVING WITH THEM.
  • 00:46:39.160 --> 00:46:41.080
  • YOU'RE GOING TO WAKE UP AND GO, NO, YOU ARE
  • 00:46:41.100 --> 00:46:42.250
  • NOT THE RIGHT PERSON.
  • 00:46:42.270 --> 00:46:44.220
  • SO I THINK OPERATING FROM THAT THING OF GRACE, JUST
  • 00:46:44.240 --> 00:46:47.250
  • KNOWING HEY, WE ARE ALL FLAWED, WE ARE ALL ON A
  • 00:46:47.270 --> 00:46:50.060
  • JOURNEY, AND GOD HAD TO SHINE A LIGHT ON MY HEART.
  • 00:46:50.080 --> 00:46:52.130
  • SO I NEVER HAD THIS AMAZING ETHEREAL MOMENT THAT WAS
  • 00:46:52.150 --> 00:46:54.170
  • LIKE [SINGING] AHHHHH .
  • 00:46:54.190 --> 00:46:55.270
  • I KNEW YOU WERE THE ONE.
  • 00:46:55.290 --> 00:46:57.130
  • I KNEW SHE HAD AMAZING QUALITIES.
  • 00:46:57.150 --> 00:46:58.270
  • I KNEW SHE WAS FINE, AND SHE HAD AMAZING QUALITIES TO BE
  • 00:46:58.290 --> 00:47:00.200
  • A WIFE, BUT I FOUND OUT THAT SOME TILES, IT'S NOT A
  • 00:47:00.220 --> 00:47:02.260
  • FEELING BEFORE THE COMMITMENT.
  • 00:47:02.280 --> 00:47:04.130
  • SOMETIMES, YOU COMMIT YOUR WAY TO A FEELING, AND ONCE I
  • 00:47:04.150 --> 00:47:07.030
  • MADE THAT COMMITMENT, I SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT?
  • 00:47:07.050 --> 00:47:08.290
  • THIS IS THE ONE, AND I STOPPED TURNING MY HEAD
  • 00:47:09.010 --> 00:47:11.070
  • LOOKING LEFT AND RIGHT AND SAID, TAYLOR IS
  • 00:47:11.090 --> 00:47:12.220
  • THE ONE FOR ME.
  • 00:47:12.240 --> 00:47:14.040
  • IT WAS AMAZING THE LOVE THAT GOD JUST BROUGHT INTO OUR
  • 00:47:14.060 --> 00:47:15.150
  • RELATIONSHIP AND OUR MARRIAGE.
  • 00:47:15.170 --> 00:47:17.020
  • - THAT'S AWESOME, THAT'S GREAT, ABSOLUTELY. SO MUCH WISDOM.
  • 00:47:17.040 --> 00:47:19.030
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:47:19.050 --> 00:47:22.170
  • TAYLOR, REAL QUICK, WHAT WOULD YOU SAY TO ANYONE OUT
  • 00:47:22.190 --> 00:47:25.110
  • THERE THAT MAYBE HAS COME FROM THE SAME SIMILAR PAST,
  • 00:47:25.130 --> 00:47:28.000
  • WHAT GOD HAS DONE WITH YOUR LIFE AND WHAT GOD IS DOING
  • 00:47:28.020 --> 00:47:30.210
  • IN YOUR MARRIAGE AS FAR AS ANYONE HERE, ANYONE
  • 00:47:30.230 --> 00:47:34.020
  • WATCHING, THAT WOULD BE HAVING DISCOURAGING THOUGHTS
  • 00:47:34.040 --> 00:47:36.270
  • ABOUT WHAT GOD COULD HAVE FOR THEM BECAUSE OF WHAT
  • 00:47:36.290 --> 00:47:38.200
  • THEY'VE DONE.
  • 00:47:38.220 --> 00:47:40.080
  • WHAT WOULD YOU WANT TO SAY TO THEM?
  • 00:47:40.100 --> 00:47:41.270
  • - WELL, IT'S ACTUALLY CRAZY, AND I KID YOU NOT --
  • 00:47:41.290 --> 00:47:43.190
  • I'M NOT SAYING THIS JUST BECAUSE I'M UP HERE, BUT
  • 00:47:43.210 --> 00:47:45.130
  • THERE'S NOT A DAY THAT GOES BY THAT I DON'T LITERALLY
  • 00:47:45.150 --> 00:47:48.070
  • LOOK IN THE MIRROR AND THINK, WOW, THE GRACE OF
  • 00:47:48.090 --> 00:47:52.190
  • GOD, AMAZING GRACE, HOW SWEET THE SOUND THAT SAVED A
  • 00:47:52.210 --> 00:47:55.020
  • WRETCH LIKE ME, AND WHAT HE HAS DONE BECAUSE LIKE I SAID
  • 00:47:55.040 --> 00:48:00.030
  • BEFORE, I FELT UNWORTHY.
  • 00:48:00.050 --> 00:48:02.030
  • AND I'M PRAYING REMEMBER PRAYING; LORD, DON'T SENT ME
  • 00:48:02.050 --> 00:48:04.050
  • A VIRGIN BECAUSE I DON'T...
  • 00:48:04.070 --> 00:48:06.000
  • JUST THE LITTLE STUFF LIKE THAT THAT THE ENEMY CREEPS
  • 00:48:06.020 --> 00:48:07.140
  • IN AND MAKES YOU FEEL.
  • 00:48:07.160 --> 00:48:09.030
  • IT'S JUST ABSOLUTELY CRAZY, REALLY, AND I JUST NEVER
  • 00:48:09.050 --> 00:48:11.130
  • FORGET OF THE HOLY SPIRIT SPOKE TO ME ONE TIME AND
  • 00:48:11.150 --> 00:48:14.030
  • JUST SAID, LIKE, YOU ACCEPTING AND RECEIVING
  • 00:48:14.050 --> 00:48:17.060
  • SHAME AND GUILT IS REJECTING THE CROSS.
  • 00:48:17.080 --> 00:48:21.140
  • IT'S SAYING THE CROSS WAS NOT GOOD ENOUGH, AND SO IN
  • 00:48:21.160 --> 00:48:23.180
  • THAT, THAT ALMOST JUST SET ME FREE AND
  • 00:48:23.200 --> 00:48:27.270
  • JUST SAID, RECEIVE. RECEIVE MY LOVE.
  • 00:48:27.290 --> 00:48:30.010
  • RECEIVE MY BLESSINGS AND EVERYTHING THAT I HAVE FOR
  • 00:48:30.030 --> 00:48:33.220
  • YOU BECAUSE YOU'RE MY DAUGHTER, AND THAT'S
  • 00:48:33.240 --> 00:48:36.100
  • WHAT I DID FOR YOU.
  • 00:48:36.120 --> 00:48:37.290
  • THAT'S WHAT THE CROSS WAS FOR.
  • 00:48:38.010 --> 00:48:39.240
  • AND SO I UNDERESTIMATED GRACE, I THINK, AND I THINK
  • 00:48:39.260 --> 00:48:42.030
  • ONCE I CHOSE TO MOVE FORWARD AND SURRENDERED THOSE
  • 00:48:42.050 --> 00:48:45.190
  • DETAILS, I KNEW LIFE COULD GET BETTER, AND HE
  • 00:48:45.210 --> 00:48:48.110
  • COULD MAKE IT NEW.
  • 00:48:48.130 --> 00:48:51.040
  • BUT I JUST DIDN'T KNOW REALLY HOW AMAZING LIFE
  • 00:48:51.060 --> 00:48:54.010
  • COULD BE, AND HE CONTINUALLY, GOD CONTINUES
  • 00:48:54.030 --> 00:48:56.280
  • TO BLOW MY MIND.
  • 00:48:57.000 --> 00:48:58.270
  • I THINK THE ULTIMATE THING WAS SURRENDERING THOSE
  • 00:48:58.290 --> 00:49:01.210
  • DETAILS, JUST WALKING AWAY.
  • 00:49:01.230 --> 00:49:03.050
  • IT'S NOT ALWAYS EASY, BUT I HAD TO LAY IT DO YOU, BUT IN
  • 00:49:03.070 --> 00:49:04.220
  • LAYING IT DOWN AND SURRENDERING -- THE BIBLE
  • 00:49:04.240 --> 00:49:07.200
  • SAYS THAT HE DOES EXCEEDINGLY, ABUNDANTLY
  • 00:49:07.220 --> 00:49:09.210
  • ABOVE ALL THAT WE -- I MEAN, HE DOES EXCEEDINGLY,
  • 00:49:09.230 --> 00:49:13.010
  • ABUNDANTLY ABOVE ALL THAT WE CAN ASK OR THINK
  • 00:49:13.030 --> 00:49:15.040
  • OR CAN IMAGINE.
  • 00:49:15.060 --> 00:49:16.280
  • AND SO I JUST THINK DON'T PUT LIMITATIONS ON HIM.
  • 00:49:17.000 --> 00:49:19.110
  • JUST RECEIVE HIS LOVE, AND ENJOY LIFE.
  • 00:49:19.130 --> 00:49:23.070
  • LIFE IS SO GOOD, AND I NEVER KNEW IT WAS GOING TO BE THIS
  • 00:49:23.090 --> 00:49:25.050
  • GOOD, BUT IT IS SO GOOD.
  • 00:49:25.070 --> 00:49:27.170
  • - THAT'S AWESOME. CAN ANYONE TESTIFY TO THE GOODNESS AND
  • 00:49:27.190 --> 00:49:29.260
  • THE GRACE OF JESUS TODAY? AMAZING.
  • 00:49:29.280 --> 00:49:31.020
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:49:31.040 --> 00:49:32.250
  • IF HE CAN DO IT FOR TAYLOR, HE CAN DO IT FOR YOU FOR SURE.
  • 00:49:32.270 --> 00:49:34.160
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:49:34.180 --> 00:49:37.070
  • TWO MORE QUESTIONS.
  • 00:49:37.090 --> 00:49:38.250
  • THE FIRST ONE IS THIS: WHAT IS MINISTRY?
  • 00:49:38.270 --> 00:49:41.120
  • WHAT DOES FAITH LOOK LIKE IN YOUR HOUSEHOLD?
  • 00:49:41.140 --> 00:49:44.060
  • I MEAN, IS THERE FAMILY DEVOTIONS?
  • 00:49:44.080 --> 00:49:46.220
  • A LOT OF PEOPLE ASK THESE QUESTIONS, ESPECIALLY NEW
  • 00:49:46.240 --> 00:49:48.270
  • YOUNG MARRIEDS WHO ARE TRYING TO SORT OUT THEIR
  • 00:49:48.290 --> 00:49:51.170
  • FAITH JOURNEY TOGETHER.
  • 00:49:51.190 --> 00:49:53.160
  • WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE IN YOUR HOME?
  • 00:49:53.180 --> 00:49:55.230
  • DOES ROBERT GIVE ILLUSTRATED SERMONS EVERY
  • 00:49:55.250 --> 00:49:57.150
  • MORNING FOR THE FAMILY?
  • 00:49:57.170 --> 00:49:59.120
  • - I MAKE COMMUNION EVERY MORNING FOR BREAKFAST.
  • 00:49:59.140 --> 00:50:01.000
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:50:01.020 --> 00:50:02.190
  • NO, JUST KIDDING.
  • 00:50:02.210 --> 00:50:05.130
  • - I WOULD PRAY THAT WHAT HAPPENS IN TERMS OF FAITH IN
  • 00:50:05.150 --> 00:50:08.230
  • OUR HOME WOULDN'T BE DIFFERENT FROM ANYBODY
  • 00:50:08.250 --> 00:50:10.070
  • THAT'S A JESUS FOLLOWER.
  • 00:50:10.090 --> 00:50:11.280
  • I THINK SOMETIMES EVEN GETTING THAT QUESTION AS A
  • 00:50:12.000 --> 00:50:13.160
  • MINISTER, WHAT IS IT LIKE FOR YOU?
  • 00:50:13.180 --> 00:50:15.150
  • AS IF TO SAY WE'RE A DIFFERENT SPECIE OR
  • 00:50:15.170 --> 00:50:18.160
  • SOMETHING WHEN YOU'RE A MINISTER.
  • 00:50:18.180 --> 00:50:20.030
  • NO, WE AUTHENTICALLY LIVE OUT A VIBRANT, REAL RELATIONSHIP
  • 00:50:20.050 --> 00:50:23.200
  • WITH JESUS CHRIST TOGETHER.
  • 00:50:23.220 --> 00:50:25.160
  • WE DO NOT HOLD HANDS AND PRAY EVERY SINGLE NIGHT.
  • 00:50:25.180 --> 00:50:28.110
  • WE'RE TRYING TO DO THAT MORE.
  • 00:50:28.130 --> 00:50:30.010
  • - WORKING ON THAT.
  • 00:50:30.030 --> 00:50:31.210
  • - WE PRAY MORE TOGETHER AS A COUPLE.
  • 00:50:31.230 --> 00:50:33.080
  • WE DO HAVE FAMILY DEVOTIONS, AND OUR CHILDREN'S BIBLE,
  • 00:50:33.100 --> 00:50:35.100
  • WE'LL READ IT WITH OUR DAUGHTER WHO NEEDS JESUS,
  • 00:50:35.120 --> 00:50:38.050
  • WHO WOULD RATHER WATCH "FROZEN".
  • 00:50:38.070 --> 00:50:39.190
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:50:39.210 --> 00:50:42.040
  • BUT YEAH, JUST LIVE HONESTLY AND JUST REALLY WALK OUT
  • 00:50:42.060 --> 00:50:47.040
  • WHAT I SAW IN MY HOME. I NEVER SAW ANYTHING DIFFERENT.
  • 00:50:47.060 --> 00:50:49.040
  • MY PARENTS WEREN'T EVEN PREACHERS AND MINISTERS,
  • 00:50:49.060 --> 00:50:50.260
  • BUT I NEVER SAW ANYTHING DIFFERENT IN THE HOME THAN
  • 00:50:50.280 --> 00:50:52.250
  • I WOULD SEE THEM OUT IN PUBLIC. IT WASN'T LIKE I WAS
  • 00:50:52.270 --> 00:50:56.010
  • LOOKING AT TWO DIFFERENT PEOPLE.
  • 00:50:56.030 --> 00:50:57.250
  • THAT'S REALLY THE GOAL, THAT THEY WOULD SEE GENUINE
  • 00:50:57.270 --> 00:50:59.200
  • AUTHENTIC PARENTS WHO LOVE JESUS, WHO ARE NOT PERFECT,
  • 00:50:59.220 --> 00:51:02.090
  • BUT ON A JOURNEY, AND YOU DON'T SEE TWO DIFFERENT PEOPLE.
  • 00:51:02.110 --> 00:51:04.220
  • - THAT'S GOOD. LAST QUESTION: IN THIS SOCIAL CLIMATE
  • 00:51:04.240 --> 00:51:09.070
  • THAT WE'RE IN, YOU TWO, BEING AN INTERRACIAL COUPLE...
  • 00:51:09.090 --> 00:51:11.280
  • - ARE WE? ARE WE AN INTERRACIAL COUPLE?
  • 00:51:12.000 --> 00:51:14.230
  • - WE DIDN'T KNOW THAT.
  • 00:51:14.250 --> 00:51:16.120
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:51:16.140 --> 00:51:18.090
  • I LOVE THIS, AND I LOVE THAT WE'RE ENDING
  • 00:51:18.110 --> 00:51:20.020
  • WITH THIS QUESTION.
  • 00:51:20.040 --> 00:51:21.270
  • YOU TWO THRIVING IN MARRIAGE, INTERRACIAL IN THE
  • 00:51:21.290 --> 00:51:24.160
  • CLIMATE THAT WE'RE IN TODAY.
  • 00:51:24.180 --> 00:51:26.100
  • WHAT DOES THAT MEAN TO Y'ALL?
  • 00:51:26.120 --> 00:51:27.270
  • WHAT'S YOUR PERSPECTIVE ON IT?
  • 00:51:27.290 --> 00:51:29.120
  • YOUR KINGDOM PERSPECTIVE.
  • 00:51:29.140 --> 00:51:31.020
  • HOW DO YOU SEE IT, THE PLACE THAT GOD HAS PUT YOU?
  • 00:51:31.040 --> 00:51:33.200
  • JUST SPEAK FROM YOUR HEART JUST FOR A MINUTE
  • 00:51:33.220 --> 00:51:35.210
  • AS WE WRAP UP.
  • 00:51:35.230 --> 00:51:37.130
  • - SO I THINK RACISM IS JUST A STAIN IN THE FABRIC OF
  • 00:51:37.150 --> 00:51:41.290
  • THIS COUNTRY, AND I TRULY BELIEVE THAT ONLY THE BLOOD
  • 00:51:42.010 --> 00:51:45.100
  • OF JESUS CAN WASH IT OUT.
  • 00:51:45.120 --> 00:51:47.100
  • IN THESE DARK TIMES, THIS IS THE TIME FOR THE CHURCH
  • 00:51:47.120 --> 00:51:49.120
  • TO BE THE CHURCH. THEY'LL KNOW US BY OUR LOVE.
  • 00:51:49.140 --> 00:51:53.200
  • AND IT'S KIND OF FUNNY BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WE GET
  • 00:51:53.220 --> 00:51:56.270
  • THAT QUESTION A LOT, ESPECIALLY IN TERMS OF HOW
  • 00:51:56.290 --> 00:51:59.020
  • IT PLAYS OUT IN OUR MARRIAGE, AND THERE'S
  • 00:51:59.040 --> 00:52:01.250
  • DIFFERENT NUANCES WITH EVERY MARRIAGE.
  • 00:52:01.270 --> 00:52:03.220
  • BUT I THINK ONE OF THE FUNNY THINGS IS JUST THIS NOTION
  • 00:52:03.240 --> 00:52:06.100
  • THAT IF YOU MARRY SOMEBODY OF THE SAME RACE, THAT
  • 00:52:06.120 --> 00:52:08.280
  • YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE CERTAIN CHALLENGES OR
  • 00:52:09.000 --> 00:52:11.240
  • CERTAIN OUTSIDE VOICES THAT ARE GOING TO DISAGREE.
  • 00:52:11.260 --> 00:52:15.180
  • BECAUSE I DON'T CARE IF BOTH OF YOU ARE PURPLE, MARRIAGE
  • 00:52:15.200 --> 00:52:17.210
  • IS TWO MAKE TRUCKS COMING AGAINST EACH OTHER,
  • 00:52:17.230 --> 00:52:20.080
  • DIFFERENT CULTURES, DIFFERENT IDEOLOGIES,
  • 00:52:20.100 --> 00:52:22.270
  • DIFFERENT BACKGROUNDS.
  • 00:52:22.290 --> 00:52:24.210
  • JUST TO USE AN ILLUSTRATION, I TOLD YOU MY PARENTS -- MY
  • 00:52:24.230 --> 00:52:27.050
  • DAD IS FROM NIGERIA; CAME TO AMERICA LIKE EDDIE
  • 00:52:27.070 --> 00:52:29.130
  • MURPHY IN THE MOVIE.
  • 00:52:29.150 --> 00:52:31.180
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:52:31.200 --> 00:52:34.230
  • AND MET MY MAMA, WHO WAS BLACK, BUT SHE'S AMERICAN.
  • 00:52:34.250 --> 00:52:37.200
  • I OFTEN SAY WHEN YOUR DADDY IS AFRICAN, AND YOUR
  • 00:52:37.220 --> 00:52:39.100
  • MOTHER'S AMERICAN, THAT MAKES YOU...
  • 00:52:39.120 --> 00:52:41.060
  • - CONGREGATION: AFRICAN AMERICAN.
  • 00:52:41.080 --> 00:52:42.260
  • - WHICH IS WHAT I AM, AND...
  • 00:52:42.280 --> 00:52:44.230
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:52:44.250 --> 00:52:46.190
  • BUT TOTALLY DIFFERENT. SAME COLOR SKIN, BUT TOTAL
  • 00:52:46.210 --> 00:52:50.280
  • DIFFERENT CONTEXT, TOTALLY DIFFERENT CULTURES.
  • 00:52:51.000 --> 00:52:54.100
  • AND A LOT OF TIMES, MY MOM WOULD HAVE TO TELL YOU,
  • 00:52:54.120 --> 00:52:56.090
  • LOOK, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU DID IT OVER THERE,
  • 00:52:56.110 --> 00:52:57.260
  • BUT LET ME LET YOU KNOW RIGHT HERE...
  • 00:52:57.280 --> 00:52:59.140
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:52:59.160 --> 00:53:01.040
  • THIS IS HOW IT GOES NOW.
  • 00:53:01.060 --> 00:53:03.050
  • AND SO MANY DIFFERENT VOICES.
  • 00:53:03.070 --> 00:53:05.080
  • MY PARENTS' FAMILY TOLD HER NOT TO MARRY MY DAD, SAID
  • 00:53:05.100 --> 00:53:09.120
  • HE'S JUST LOOKING FOR A GREEN CARD.
  • 00:53:09.140 --> 00:53:11.080
  • HIS FAMILY IN NIGERIA SAID DON'T MARRY ANY AMERICAN
  • 00:53:11.100 --> 00:53:13.040
  • GIRL.
  • 00:53:13.060 --> 00:53:15.030
  • FIND YOU A NIGERIAN WHEN YOU GET TO AMERICA.
  • 00:53:15.050 --> 00:53:17.070
  • SO YOU'RE ALWAYS GOING TO HAVE OUTSIDE VOICES.
  • 00:53:17.090 --> 00:53:19.010
  • THANK GOD, THAT AS RELATES TO US, BOTH OF OUR FAMILIES
  • 00:53:19.030 --> 00:53:21.180
  • ARE LIKE, AS LONG AS YOU LOVE JESUS, WE DON'T CARE
  • 00:53:21.200 --> 00:53:23.170
  • WHAT COLOR THEY ARE.
  • 00:53:23.190 --> 00:53:25.090
  • THANK GOD THEY RESEMBLE THE WAY A BELIEVER
  • 00:53:25.110 --> 00:53:26.280
  • IS SUPPOSED TO BE.
  • 00:53:27.000 --> 00:53:28.140
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:53:28.160 --> 00:53:30.060
  • SO WE NEVER HAD THAT CHALLENGE IN TERMS OF
  • 00:53:30.080 --> 00:53:31.280
  • FAMILY, BUT MAN, WE HAVE HAD IT IN TERMS OF,
  • 00:53:32.000 --> 00:53:33.150
  • AGAIN, OUTSIDE VOICES.
  • 00:53:33.170 --> 00:53:35.030
  • THERE'S A PASTOR THAT I REALLY LOOKED UP TO, AND
  • 00:53:35.050 --> 00:53:36.250
  • I'LL NEVER FORGET, WHEN I WAS GETTING READY TO PROPOSE
  • 00:53:36.270 --> 00:53:39.060
  • TO TAYLOR, HE'S LIKE, ARE YOU REALLY ABOUT TO PROPOSE
  • 00:53:39.080 --> 00:53:41.270
  • TO A WHITE GIRL?
  • 00:53:41.290 --> 00:53:43.070
  • AND I SAID, YEAH.
  • 00:53:43.090 --> 00:53:44.230
  • HE SAID, WELL, YOU KNOW, DO WHAT YOU WANT, BUT I JUST
  • 00:53:44.250 --> 00:53:46.210
  • WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT DOING THAT, MAN, YOU'RE JUST
  • 00:53:46.230 --> 00:53:49.080
  • GOING TO REALLY PIGEON HOLE YOURSELF IN MINISTRY.
  • 00:53:49.100 --> 00:53:51.090
  • THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME PLACES THAT'S YOU'RE NOT
  • 00:53:51.110 --> 00:53:53.010
  • GOING TO GO, SOME PLACES YOU'RE NOT GOING TO
  • 00:53:53.030 --> 00:53:54.190
  • BE ABLE TO PREACH.
  • 00:53:54.210 --> 00:53:56.060
  • YOU'RE GOING TO OFFEND SOME PEOPLE JUST BEING ON STAGE.
  • 00:53:56.080 --> 00:53:57.250
  • AND I REMEMBER, OF COURSE, SEEING THIS PERSON WHO WAS A
  • 00:53:57.270 --> 00:53:59.130
  • HERO TO ME JUST KIND OF CRUMBLE AS THOSE WORDS WERE
  • 00:53:59.150 --> 00:54:01.020
  • COMING OUT OF HIS MOUTH, BUT I MADE A DECISION AT THAT
  • 00:54:01.040 --> 00:54:02.240
  • MOMENT, I'M NOT GOING TO LET AN OUTSIDE VOICE AFFECT THE
  • 00:54:02.260 --> 00:54:04.150
  • COVENANT THAT I HAVE WITH MY WIFE AND
  • 00:54:04.170 --> 00:54:07.090
  • MY RELATIONSHIP WITH HER.
  • 00:54:07.110 --> 00:54:09.190
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:54:09.210 --> 00:54:11.170
  • AND SO YOU GOT TO LEARN WHICH VOICES TO REJECT AND
  • 00:54:11.190 --> 00:54:13.100
  • WHICH VOICES TO EMBRACE.
  • 00:54:13.120 --> 00:54:15.020
  • CONVERSELY, WE WERE IN LONDON SPEAKING AT A
  • 00:54:15.040 --> 00:54:16.220
  • CONFERENCE NOT TOO LONG AGO, AND WE GOT A WORD FROM A
  • 00:54:16.240 --> 00:54:18.190
  • COUPLE IN LONDON, AND THIS WAS YEARS AGO, WHO SAID, I
  • 00:54:18.210 --> 00:54:21.270
  • JUST HAD THIS PICTURE, THIS VISION, OF ALL KINDS OF
  • 00:54:21.290 --> 00:54:24.230
  • CALAMITY HAPPENING IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
  • 00:54:24.250 --> 00:54:28.160
  • IN TERMS OF RACE.
  • 00:54:28.180 --> 00:54:30.170
  • SHE SAID, PEOPLE WERE JUST FIGHTING AGAINST EACH OTHER.
  • 00:54:30.190 --> 00:54:33.010
  • AND THEN I SAW YOU TWO HOLDING HANDS AS A BRIDGE,
  • 00:54:33.030 --> 00:54:35.240
  • AND GOD USING YOUR MARRIAGE TO BRING
  • 00:54:35.260 --> 00:54:38.230
  • RECONCILIATION TO THE CHURCH. AND SO THAT'S THE WORD --
  • 00:54:38.250 --> 00:54:41.240
  • - AMAZING!
  • 00:54:41.260 --> 00:54:43.240
  • - THAT WE DIDN'T REJECT. LOOK AT US ON LAKEWOOD STAGE.
  • 00:54:43.260 --> 00:54:46.180
  • LOOK HOW GOD BRINGS IT FULL CIRCLE.
  • 00:54:46.200 --> 00:54:49.080
  • - YES, YES.
  • 00:54:49.100 --> 00:54:50.290
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:54:51.010 --> 00:54:54.070
  • - ONE DAY, ONE DAY.
  • 00:54:54.090 --> 00:54:56.110
  • - AMAZING, AMAZING.
  • 00:54:56.130 --> 00:54:59.000
  • PASTOR ROBERT, PRAY FOR ALL THE COUPLES HERE TODAY
  • 00:54:59.020 --> 00:55:01.130
  • AS WE WRAP UP OUR SESSION.
  • 00:55:01.150 --> 00:55:03.060
  • - ABSOLUTELY, MY HONOR.
  • 00:55:03.080 --> 00:55:04.260
  • FATHER, THANK YOU FOR THIS MOMENT. GOD, THANK YOU FOR THIS
  • 00:55:04.280 --> 00:55:07.120
  • WEEKEND. JESUS, I TRULY BELIEVE THAT ONLY HEAVEN WILL KNOW THE
  • 00:55:07.140 --> 00:55:11.120
  • RAMIFICATIONS OF THIS AMAZING WEEKEND AS WE
  • 00:55:11.140 --> 00:55:13.150
  • CHOOSE, FATHER, TO HONOR THE AMAZING, PRECIOUS GIFT THAT
  • 00:55:13.170 --> 00:55:17.200
  • YOU'VE GIVEN US IN MARRIAGE.
  • 00:55:17.220 --> 00:55:19.180
  • HOLY SPIRIT, WE INVITE YOU INTO OUR MARRIAGES.
  • 00:55:19.200 --> 00:55:22.160
  • WE INVITE YOU INTO OUR HOMES.
  • 00:55:22.180 --> 00:55:24.150
  • WE INVITE YOU, GOD, TO EVERY SPACE AND EVERY PLACE.
  • 00:55:24.170 --> 00:55:27.170
  • GOD, I COME AGAINST EVERY LIE OF THE ENEMY THAT WOULD
  • 00:55:27.190 --> 00:55:30.090
  • TELL COUPLES THAT THIS IS IT, THAT IT IS OVER, THAT
  • 00:55:30.110 --> 00:55:32.270
  • THEY WOULD WALK AWAY.
  • 00:55:32.290 --> 00:55:34.210
  • BUT, GOD, I THANK YOU THAT YOU ARE BRINGING RESTORATION.
  • 00:55:34.230 --> 00:55:36.140
  • YOU ARE BRINGING HOPE.
  • 00:55:36.160 --> 00:55:38.050
  • YOU'RE BRINGING HEALING, AND GOD, WE ARE NOT
  • 00:55:38.070 --> 00:55:39.240
  • GOING TO GIVE UP.
  • 00:55:39.260 --> 00:55:41.200
  • HOLY SPIRIT, HELP US, HELP US TO SHOW THE SAME LOVE TO
  • 00:55:41.220 --> 00:55:45.000
  • OUR SPOUSES, JESUS, THAT YOU SHOWED TO US; SHOWING GRACE,
  • 00:55:45.020 --> 00:55:48.070
  • SHOWING LOVE, SHOWING MERCY, AND I THANK YOU FOR THAT THE
  • 00:55:48.090 --> 00:55:51.220
  • BEST IS YET TO COME FOR EVERY SINGLE ONE OF
  • 00:55:51.240 --> 00:55:53.210
  • THE COUPLES THAT ARE IN THIS ROOM TODAY.
  • 00:55:53.230 --> 00:55:55.060
  • IN JESUS' NAME, AMEN.
  • 00:55:55.080 --> 00:55:56.270
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:55:56.290 --> 00:55:59.210
  • - JOEL, LOOK, ALL OF THE COMMON UNION OF HERE IS THAT
  • 00:55:59.230 --> 00:56:03.280
  • YOUR SENIOR PASTORS OF LAKEWOOD CHURCH, YOU'RE
  • 00:56:04.000 --> 00:56:07.070
  • PASTORS OF LAKEWOOD CHURCH, YOU'RE PASTORS
  • 00:56:07.090 --> 00:56:08.280
  • OF LAKEWOOD CHURCH.
  • 00:56:09.000 --> 00:56:10.190
  • YOU DECIDED THIS CONFERENCE, IT'S IMPORTANT, WHY?
  • 00:56:10.210 --> 00:56:14.050
  • AND KIND OF YOUR FINAL THOUGHTS ON MARRIAGE AND
  • 00:56:14.070 --> 00:56:17.120
  • RELATIONSHIP, THOSE TYPES OF MATTERS.
  • 00:56:17.140 --> 00:56:19.020
  • - MATT, I THINK THERE ARE SO MANY THINGS COMING
  • 00:56:19.040 --> 00:56:21.130
  • AGAINST MARRIAGES TODAY, AND WE KNOW THAT YOUR MARRIAGE
  • 00:56:21.150 --> 00:56:24.080
  • CAN MAKE IT WITH GOD'S HELP.
  • 00:56:24.100 --> 00:56:25.290
  • ALL OF OUR MARRIAGES CAN, SO WHEN WE COME TOGETHER, WHEN
  • 00:56:26.010 --> 00:56:28.180
  • WE HONOR GOD, SOMETIMES JUST ASKING GOD FOR HIS HELP IN
  • 00:56:28.200 --> 00:56:32.000
  • OUR MARRIAGE IS THE FIRST WAY TO START AND TAKING SOME
  • 00:56:32.020 --> 00:56:34.170
  • TIME TO GET SOME GOOD INFORMATION AND SAY, HEY,
  • 00:56:34.190 --> 00:56:36.250
  • GOD, I CAN'T DO IT ON MY OWN, BUT WITH YOUR HELP,
  • 00:56:36.270 --> 00:56:38.240
  • I KNOW WE CAN.
  • 00:56:38.260 --> 00:56:40.170
  • AND SO THIS IS WHAT THIS CONFERENCE IS ALL ABOUT, AND
  • 00:56:40.190 --> 00:56:42.270
  • WE'RE BLESSED TO BE HERE AND BE ABLE TO BRING IT TO TBN
  • 00:56:42.290 --> 00:56:45.030
  • TO ALL OF THE GREAT VIEWERS AND SUPPORTERS.
  • 00:56:45.050 --> 00:56:46.240
  • - FINAL THOUGHTS?
  • 00:56:46.260 --> 00:56:48.170
  • - I LOVE THAT THOUGHT BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT?
  • 00:56:48.190 --> 00:56:50.100
  • YOU HAVE TO BE WILLING.
  • 00:56:50.120 --> 00:56:52.020
  • THE BIBLE SAYS TO BE WILLING AND OBEDIENT, AND THAT'S
  • 00:56:52.040 --> 00:56:53.210
  • WHEN YOU EAT THE GOOD OF THE LAND.
  • 00:56:53.230 --> 00:56:55.130
  • IF YOU'RE WILLING TO WORK IN YOUR MARRIAGE, YOU'RE
  • 00:56:55.150 --> 00:56:57.120
  • OBEDIENT TO GOD'S WORD, THAT'S WHEN YOU'RE GOING TO
  • 00:56:57.140 --> 00:56:59.140
  • HAVE A GOOD MARRIAGE AND A GOOD HOME.
  • 00:56:59.160 --> 00:57:01.250
  • AND I BELIEVE OUR CHILDREN DESERVE TO SEE GODLY
  • 00:57:01.270 --> 00:57:05.200
  • MARRIAGES PLAYED OUT THESE DAYS.
  • 00:57:05.220 --> 00:57:07.100
  • OUR CHILDREN NEED THOSE EXAMPLES.
  • 00:57:07.120 --> 00:57:09.010
  • SO BE WILLING AND BE OBEDIENT.
  • 00:57:09.030 --> 00:57:10.240
  • - WE'LL SEE YOU NEXT TIME. BYE BYE.
  • 00:57:10.260 --> 00:57:13.080
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:57:13.100 --> 00:57:16.100
  • [MUSIC]
  • 00:57:16.120 --> 00:57:28.140