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  • - DAVID AND JASON BENHAM ARE
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  • SUCCESSFUL BUSINESSMEN.
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  • - THE HOME AND GARDEN TV NETWORK WAS SCHEDULED TO
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  • DEBUT FLIP IT FORWARD, A SHOW STARRING TWIN
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  • BROTHERS JASON AND DAVID BENHAM.
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  • - WHEN AN ADVOCACY GROUP COMPLAINED THAT THE BROTHERS
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  • OPPOSED GAY MARRIAGE, HGTV DROPPED THE PROJECT
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  • ALMOST IMMEDIATELY.
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  • - WE HAVE ABSOLUTELY NOTHING AGAINST
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  • THE PEOPLE.
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  • - I DON'T WANT TO GET -- - THERE'S A DIFFERENCE
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  • BETWEEN THE PEOPLE AND AN AGENDA.
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  • - YOU SEEM LIKE SUCH NICE PEOPLE.
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  • HOW DID YOU CAUSE SUCH A FIRE STORM IN THE MEDIA?
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  • [MUSIC]
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  • [MUSIC]
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  • - MATT CROUCH: YOU KNOW WHAT I THINK IS THE MOST
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  • IMPRESSIVE ABOUT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE
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  • TALKING ABOUT TODAY IN REGARD TO THIS IS I GET A
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  • SENSE THAT YOU GUYS ARE NOT JOKING AROUND, THAT
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  • THIS SUBJECT MATTER MEANS SOMETHING TO YOU AND THAT
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  • YOU'RE NOT JUST, YOU'RE NOT JUST WRITING
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  • ANOTHER BOOK.
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  • - NO.
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  • - WHERE DID THIS ALL KIND OF COME FROM?
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  • - WELL, WE RECOGNIZE THE MOMENT IN WHICH WE LIVE,
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  • THIS CULTURAL MOMENT WHERE GOD IS CONNECTING
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  • TO THE PEOPLE THAT HE'S EATED, BUT HE NEEDS TO
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  • USE US, HE WANTS TO USE US, THE CHURCH, BELIEVERS
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  • IN HIM AS A BRIDGE, AND WHEN WE LOOK AT NEWS, WE
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  • WATCH WHAT'S HAPPENING AROUND THE WORLD, WE SEE
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  • WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE IN THIS COUNTRY, PEOPLE ARE
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  • DISCONNECTED FROM GOD.
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  • NOW MORE THAN EVER THE LORD IS ASKING US TO
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  • STAND IN THAT GAP.
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  • - THE WAY YOU WROTE IT IN YOUR BOOK WAS REALLY
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  • IT WAS A PLAN OF GOD THAT WHAT HAPPENED TO YOU WAS
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  • SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN THAT WAY.
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  • - WELL, WE ALWAYS SAID IT WAS KIND OF LIKE
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  • DIVINE SABOTAGE.
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  • WE HONESTLY BELIEVED BACK IN 2013 WHEN HGTV SIGNED
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  • US TO A REALITY SHOW TO OUR COMPANY AND GET US
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  • OUT THERE FLIPPING HOUSES FOR PEOPLE, GOD NEVER
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  • REALLY HAD IT IN THE WORKS TO BE ON TV
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  • LIKE THAT.
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  • WHAT HE REALLY HAD IN THE WORKS IS THAT HE'D ALLOW
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  • US TO GET FIRED FOR STANDING FOR BIBLICAL
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  • VALUES AND THEN PUT US OUT THERE IN FRONT OF A
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  • WATCHING WORLD.
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  • - THE WAR ON TRADITIONAL VALUES.
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  • FLIP IT FORWARD, A SHOW STARRING TWIN BROTHERS
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  • JASON AND DAVID BENHAM.
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  • - THEY WANT TO TURN AROUND AND HELP PEOPLE
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  • ACQUIRE THEIR FIRST HOME.
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  • IT'S JUST A SHAME.
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  • - WE'RE ONLY THREE DAYS A FILMING AWAY FROM
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  • FINISHING OUR FIRST HOUSE.
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  • - THE ANNOUNCEMENT TO CANCEL THE BENHAM
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  • BROTHERS HGTV REALITY SHOW FLIP IT FORWARD
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  • COMING UP TO THE BLOG RIGHT-WINGWATCH.ORG
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  • BROUGHT TO LIFE CONTROVERSIAL REMARKS
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  • MADE BY DAVID BENHAM.
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  • - YOU ARE FREE TO SAY WHATEVER YOU WANT IN THIS
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  • COUNTRY, BUT THAT ALSO MEANS THAT YOU WILL
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  • BE HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT YOU SAY.
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  • [MUSIC]
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  • - YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU READ SCRIPTURES AND WE
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  • THINK ABOUT THIS, THIS IDEA THAT GOD'S WAYS ARE
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  • HIGHER THAN OUR WAYS AND HE SEES THINGS INTO THE
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  • FUTURE AND HE'S ORCHESTRATING THINGS THAT
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  • WE JUST CAN'T SEE, I DON'T KNOW THAT I'VE EVER
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  • HEARD A MORE INTERESTING VERSION OF THAT THAN YOUR
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  • GUYS' THING THAT YOU THOUGHT YOU WERE SUPPOSED
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  • TO DO TV ONE WAY.
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  • YOU ENDED UP DOING MORE TV BECAUSE OF --
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  • - BECAUSE DAVID COULDN'T KEEP HIS TRAP SHUT.
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  • [LAUGHTER]
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  • THE NEXT THING YOU KNOW WE END UP ON EVERY MAJOR
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  • NEWS NETWORK IN THE COUNTRY.
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  • OUR STORY BECAME THE NUMBER ONE STORY ON
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  • FACEBOOK FOR 2 DAYS AND 31 MILLION TWEETS
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  • DELIVERED AND 30 MILLION GOOGLE SEARCHES WITH
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  • BENHAM BROTHERS, AND WE WEREN'T LOOKING
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  • FOR THAT BUT WHAT WE FOUND IS WE ACTUALLY
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  • REALIZED GOD'S BIGGER STORY, IT'S HIS STORY,
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  • NOT OURS.
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  • WE HAVE A SMALL PART, AND EVERY BELIEVER HAS A
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  • SMALL PART, BUT FOR A MOMENT OUR STORY WAS
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  • STAND IN THE GAP.
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  • STAND FOR BIBLICAL VALUES.
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  • LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT GOD LOVES EVERYBODY.
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  • HE LOVES US SO MUCH THAT HE SENT HIS SON JESUS,
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  • AND THAT MESSAGE RIGHT NOW ISN'T REALLY POPULAR
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  • IN ACADEMIA OR MAJOR MEDIA, NOT POPULAR IN
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  • HOLLYWOOD MAYBE OR SOME OTHER PLACES, BUT THE
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  • LORD SAYS IT DOESN'T MATTER IF IT'S
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  • POPULAR OR NOT.
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  • DUTY IS YOURS.
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  • STAND IN THE GAP.
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  • [MUSIC]
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  • - PRAISE COMES TO YOU FROM ONE OF THE MOST
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  • BEAUTIFUL SETTINGS I HAVE EVER SEEN.
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  • WE ARE IN SOUTHWEST COLORADO.
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  • TBN USED TO HAVE A STUDIO OVER IN DENVER.
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  • IT'S BEAUTIFUL THERE, TOO.
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  • BUT WE HAD 4 WALLS AND WE HAD A PAINTED BACKGROUND.
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  • WE HAVE TRADED THOSE 4 WALLS FOR NO WALLS AND WE
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  • WELCOME YOU TO JOIN US ALL ONE HOUR HERE IN THE
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  • BEAUTIFUL SOUTHWEST OF COLORADO.
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  • OUR GUESTS ARE BASICALLY BOLD AND BROKEN.
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  • THEY ARE DAVID AND JASON BENHAM.
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  • - BOLD.
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  • BROKEN.
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  • - EXACTLY.
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  • THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I WAS GOING TO DO.
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  • [MUSIC]
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  • - AMAZING LOCATION, BUT AN AMAZING
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  • OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT SOMETHING THAT IS SO
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  • IMPORTANT, THAT IS BIGGER THAN US ALL.
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  • GOD IS CALLING ALL OF US AS HIS MEN AND WOMEN TO
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  • STAND IN THE GAP.
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  • IF EVER THERE WAS A TIME FOR CHRISTIANS TO STAND
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  • IN THE GAP, NOW IS THE TIME.
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  • WHEN WE LOOK AT STATISTICS, WHEN WE LOOK
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  • AT WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE NEXT GENERATION, WITH
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  • ANXIETY AND SUICIDE AND DEPRESSION, AND THE
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  • OPIOID CRISIS AND ALL OF THESE THINGS, IDENTITY
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  • CRISIS, NOW IS THE TIME FOR US TO STAND IN THE
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  • GAP AND TO SHINE THE LIGHT OF GOD'S TRUTH
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  • BECAUSE THE PROBLEM TODAY IS NOT THE PRESENCE
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  • OF DARKNESS.
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  • IT'S THE ABSENCE OF LIGHT.
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  • AND THIS IS AN ANCIENT HOSTILITY.
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  • WE SEE THIS IN EZEKIEL 22, THE LORD SHOWS US, HE
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  • SAYS THE PRIESTS DON'T DISTINGUISH BETWEEN RIGHT
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  • AND WRONG.
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  • THE PROPHETS PROPHESY LIES.
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  • THE PRINCES ARE GREEDY FOR ILL GOTTEN GAIN
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  • AND THE PEOPLE LOVE IT THIS WAY.
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  • AND I SEARCH FOR A MAN WHO WOULD STAND IN THE
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  • GAP ON BEHALF OF THE LAND THAT I WOULD NOT DESTROY
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  • IT, AND I FOUND NO ONE.
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  • TODAY WE WANT TO BE THE ANSWER TO GOD'S PRAYER IN
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  • EZEKIEL CHAPTER 22 AND STAND IN THE GAP.
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  • [MUSIC]
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  • [MUSIC]
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  • NOW, I'M WILLING TO STAND IN THE GAP FOR MY BROTHER
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  • AND TELL HIM THAT HIS GLASSES ARE A LITTLE TOO
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  • BIG FOR HIS FACE.
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  • - OH, COME ON.
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  • - AND I HAVE TO SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR SON TO
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  • LOANING THESE THINGS TO ME, BUT IT IS TIME WE
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  • STAND IN THE GAP, AND THAT'S WHY WE WROTE A
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  • BOOK CALLED BOLD AND BROKEN BECAUSE IT'S GOING
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  • TO TAKE BOLDNESS FOR CHRISTIANS TO STAND IN
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  • THE GAP TODAY, BUT BOLDNESS APART FROM
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  • BROKENNESS MAKES A BULLY.
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  • BUT ON THE OTHER SIDE BROKENNESS APART FROM
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  • BOLDNESS MAKES A BYSTANDER.
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  • AND THAT'S WHERE A LOT OF US IN THE CHURCH HAVE
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  • FOUND OURSELVES TODAY, BUT WHEN YOU STAND BOLDLY
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  • FOR THE LORD ON THE FOUNDATION OF BROKENNESS,
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  • IT MAKES YOU A BRIDGE THAT CONNECTS HEAVEN TO
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  • EARTH, THAT CONNECTS GOD WITH THE PEOPLE WHO ARE
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  • DISCONNECTED FROM HIM.
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  • THERE'S A LOT TO UNPACK IN THAT, BUT THAT'S WHAT
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  • WE'RE GOING TO COVER IN THIS HOUR WITH YOU.
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  • - LAURIE CROUCH: I LOVE IT.
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  • - OKAY.
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  • DAVID AND JASON, I THINK THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE
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  • REMEMBER ONE OF THE HIGHEST PROFILE FIRINGS
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  • THAT MAYBE HAS HAPPENED IN A LONG TIME.
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  • OKAY.
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  • I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS A USUAL KIND OF INTRODUCTION, BUT AT
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  • SOME POINT YOU ARE KNOWN TO HOST OF US IN AMERICA
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  • THAT KNOW YOU BECAUSE YOU GOT FIRED.
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  • WHAT HAPPENED TO YOU GUYS?
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  • WHERE DID THAT COME FROM?
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  • - WELL, WE WERE FILMING A REALITY SHOW CALLED
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  • FLIP IT FORWARD WITH HGTV THAT HIGHLIGHTED OUR
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  • REAL ESTATE COMPANY.
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  • AND THEY REALIZED THAT I LOOK SO MUCH BETTER THAN
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  • JASON AND SAID I WOULDN'T DO THE SHOW WITHOUT HIM
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  • SO THEY FIRED US.
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  • NO, I'M ONLY TEASING.
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  • THIS IS BACK JUST A FEW YEARS AGO AND IN OUR
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  • COUNTRY, IN AMERICA WE SEE IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE
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  • VOCAL ABOUT THE UNBORN AND SAY THEY DESERVE OR
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  • LIFE OR BE VOCAL ABOUT MARRIAGE AND SOME OF THE
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  • THESE OTHER THINGS, UNFORTUNATELY
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  • WE LIKE TO SAY THERE'S A THOUGHT MAFIA IN THE
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  • MEDIA THAT SAYS NO, YOU CAN'T SPEAK ON THESE
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  • VALUES, AND WHAT JASON AND I LIKE TO SAY AND
  • 00:08:22.130 --> 00:08:24.050
  • THIS IS WHY WE WERE WITH HGTV, WE SAID THAT
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  • GOD'S BLESSINGS ARE FOUND WITHIN GOD'S BOUNDARIES,
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  • AND IF THOSE MORAL BOUNDARIES ARE REMOVED, THE
  • 00:08:29.060 --> 00:08:31.150
  • BLESSINGS ARE REPLACED WITH BURDENS.
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  • SO IT'S NOT HATEFUL TO TALK ABOUT
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  • THOSE BOUNDARIES.
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  • IT'S ACTUALLY LOVING, SO WE CAME ACROSS FROM THAT
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  • PERSPECTIVE, BUT HGTV THEY REALLY LIKED US.
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  • THEY SPENT MILLIONS OF DOLLARS ON OUR SHOW.
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  • WE WERE FIVE WEEKS IN TO A TEN WEEK FILM SHOOT,
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  • AND THEN STARTED GETTING PRESSURE FROM A LOT OF
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  • ACTIVIST GROUPS SAYING YOU CAN'T GIVE THEM A SHOW.
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  • THEY ARE RIGHT-WING BIGOTS AND ALL THIGHS
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  • OTHER THINGS.
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  • NOTHING COULD BE FURTHER FROM THE TRUTH BUT THAT
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  • WAS THE NARRATIVE, AND WE WERE REMINDED OF CHRIST'S
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  • WORDS IN MATTHEW 5: 11 WHERE JESUS SAID, BLESSED
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  • ARE YOU WHEN MEN PERSECUTE YOU AND FALSELY
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  • ACCUSE YOU FOR MY NAME'S SAKE.
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  • AND YOU KNOW, WE ACTUALLY EXPERIENCED FALSE
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  • ACCUSATIONS BECAUSE UP TO THAT POINT WE HAD BEEN
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  • PROFESSIONAL BASEBALL PLAYERS, SUCCESSFUL
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  • ENTREPRENEURS, WE HAD GROWN OUR REAL ESTATE
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  • OFFICE TO 100 OFFICES ACROSS 35 STATES.
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  • WE'D BEEN MET WITH A LOT OF SUCCESS SO NOW ALL THE
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  • SUDDEN WE HAD THIS REALITY SHOW, AND THEN
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  • OVERNIGHT WE'RE RIGHT-WING BIGOT HATERS
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  • AND HGTV FIRES US.
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  • AND SO THAT JUST LED TO US SAYING, YOU KNOW WHAT?
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  • WE NEED TO WRITE A BOOK ABOUT OUR STORY, AND WE
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  • DID, BUT WHAT WE REALLY WANT TO DO IS WRITE
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  • ANOTHER BOOK ON HOW TO EQUIP CHRISTIANS IN THIS
  • 00:09:39.220 --> 00:09:42.140
  • CULTURAL MOMENT WHERE OUR VALUES MIGHT NOT BE SO
  • 00:09:42.160 --> 00:09:46.000
  • POPULAR OR THE PRINCIPLES OF GOD'S WORD MIGHT BE
  • 00:09:46.020 --> 00:09:50.020
  • MISCONSTRUED AND TWISTED TO BE SOMETHING HATEFUL
  • 00:09:50.040 --> 00:09:52.070
  • WHEN IT'S TRULY NOT.
  • 00:09:52.090 --> 00:09:54.080
  • WELL, HOW CAN WE EQUIP OTHER BELIEVERS INCLUDING
  • 00:09:54.100 --> 00:09:56.090
  • OURSELVES TO ENTER THIS CONVERSATION TO STAND IN
  • 00:09:56.110 --> 00:09:59.060
  • THE GAP, AND THAT'S WHY WE WROTE --
  • 00:09:59.080 --> 00:10:01.040
  • - AND DAVID WAS ACTUALLY USED TO GETTING FIRED BECAUSE HE
  • 00:10:01.060 --> 00:10:03.160
  • WAS RELEASED FROM THE CARDINALS IN 2000.
  • 00:10:03.180 --> 00:10:05.100
  • WAS IT 2.000 OR 2001?
  • 00:10:05.120 --> 00:10:07.040
  • - IT WAS 2002.
  • 00:10:07.060 --> 00:10:08.150
  • WHEN WERE YOU DONE?
  • 00:10:08.170 --> 00:10:10.270
  • HE WAS DONE WITH THE ORIOLES IN 2001.
  • 00:10:10.290 --> 00:10:12.180
  • I PLAYED A YEAR LONGER THAN HIM.
  • 00:10:12.200 --> 00:10:13.190
  • - I SHOULDN'T HAVE BROUGHT THAT UP.
  • 00:10:13.210 --> 00:10:15.080
  • [MUSIC]
  • 00:10:15.100 --> 00:10:22.190
  • - ONE OF THE THINGS THAT COMES TO MY MIND AS WE'RE
  • 00:10:22.210 --> 00:10:25.090
  • BASICALLY WALKING THROUGH AN ASPEN GROVE,
  • 00:10:25.110 --> 00:10:28.270
  • BY THE WAY.
  • 00:10:28.290 --> 00:10:30.110
  • THESE ARE ASPEN TREES.
  • 00:10:30.130 --> 00:10:31.130
  • - BEAUTIFUL.
  • 00:10:31.150 --> 00:10:33.060
  • [MUSIC]
  • 00:10:33.080 --> 00:10:39.150
  • - MY MOM AND DAD IN TBN'S HISTORY A
  • 00:10:39.170 --> 00:10:43.250
  • WHILE BACK TOLD A STORY, A REALLY UNIQUE STORY
  • 00:10:43.270 --> 00:10:49.060
  • ABOUT A REALLY BAD DAY IN MY DAD'S VERNACULAR, A
  • 00:10:49.080 --> 00:10:56.110
  • BAD DAY, AND WHAT THAT MEANT WAS THERE WAS A
  • 00:10:56.130 --> 00:11:00.050
  • DECISION AT THE FCC THAT SAID IN ESSENCE THAT TV
  • 00:11:00.070 --> 00:11:09.220
  • STATIONS NO LONGER HAD -- THE CABLE SYSTEMS DIDN'T
  • 00:11:09.240 --> 00:11:13.080
  • HAVE TO CARRY TV STATIONS AND THAT MEANT THAT
  • 00:11:13.100 --> 00:11:17.040
  • TBN'S INDIVIDUAL STATIONS COULD JUST BE DROPPED BY
  • 00:11:17.060 --> 00:11:22.000
  • CABLE SYSTEMS, SO IF THEY DIDN'T WANT THE
  • 00:11:22.020 --> 00:11:24.240
  • CHRISTIAN CHANNEL THEY COULD JUST DROP IT.
  • 00:11:24.260 --> 00:11:26.270
  • IT WAS A HORRIBLE DAY.
  • 00:11:26.290 --> 00:11:28.210
  • - YEAH.
  • 00:11:28.230 --> 00:11:30.230
  • - WELL, THE BIGGER PLAN BEHIND THAT LIKE YOUR
  • 00:11:30.250 --> 00:11:33.080
  • CANCELLATION THING, WE'RE TALKING THAT, BUT THE
  • 00:11:33.100 --> 00:11:38.100
  • BIGGER PLAY WAS THE VALUES OF TV STATIONS
  • 00:11:38.120 --> 00:11:41.100
  • PLUMMETED, AND TBN BOUGHT MOST OF THE TV
  • 00:11:41.120 --> 00:11:44.200
  • CHANNELS AT TEN CURRENTS ON A DOLLAR FOR
  • 00:11:44.220 --> 00:11:48.230
  • ALL THE 80'S.
  • 00:11:48.250 --> 00:11:50.240
  • AND THEN GUESS WHAT?
  • 00:11:50.260 --> 00:11:53.040
  • THAT LAW CHANGED AGAIN AND MUST CARRY CAME BACK ON.
  • 00:11:53.060 --> 00:11:57.130
  • AND SO THERE WAS THIS TEN YEAR WINDOW WHERE TV
  • 00:11:57.150 --> 00:12:00.220
  • STATIONS WERE AFFORDABLE, AND THAT'S WHEN WE
  • 00:12:00.240 --> 00:12:03.080
  • BOUGHT THEM.
  • 00:12:03.100 --> 00:12:05.010
  • SO GOD'S BIGGER PLAN, MY DAD WOULD HAVE LOOKED AT
  • 00:12:05.030 --> 00:12:08.140
  • THAT DAY WHEN CABLE COULD DROP BROADCAST AND JUST
  • 00:12:08.160 --> 00:12:12.030
  • SAY THIS IS THE WORST DAY IN IT ABOUT IN HISTORY.
  • 00:12:12.050 --> 00:12:14.220
  • AND AT THAT TIME IT WAS, BUT GOD HAD A
  • 00:12:14.240 --> 00:12:16.280
  • DECADE PLAN WORKING.
  • 00:12:17.000 --> 00:12:19.020
  • - THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.
  • 00:12:19.040 --> 00:12:21.150
  • - THAT IT'S -- THAT SEEMS TO BE A THEME HERE, THAT
  • 00:12:21.170 --> 00:12:25.100
  • YOU GUYS MIGHT BE ABLE TO SAY SOMETHING TO OUR
  • 00:12:25.120 --> 00:12:29.170
  • AUDIENCE NOW ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE GOING THROUGH.
  • 00:12:29.190 --> 00:12:32.150
  • ONE ASPECT OF YOUR STORY OF STAND IN THE GAP IS
  • 00:12:32.170 --> 00:12:35.250
  • THAT YOU HAD MORE INFLUENCE BECAUSE OF
  • 00:12:35.270 --> 00:12:39.020
  • SOMETHING BAD THAT HAPPENED THEN WHAT YOU
  • 00:12:39.040 --> 00:12:41.180
  • WOULD HAVE CONSIDERED GOOD WHICH YOUR SHOW
  • 00:12:41.200 --> 00:12:43.200
  • WOULD HAVE BEEN ON HOME AND GARDEN TV.
  • 00:12:43.220 --> 00:12:45.210
  • - WE WRITE -- IT'S INTERESTING THAT WE WRITE
  • 00:12:45.230 --> 00:12:47.290
  • WE LOVE IT AS BELIEVERS WHEN GOD USES PEOPLE'S
  • 00:12:48.010 --> 00:12:50.150
  • STRENGTHS OR REALLY GOOD SITUATIONS TO GET US
  • 00:12:50.170 --> 00:12:52.270
  • WHERE WE WANTS US TO GO, BUT WE DON'T LOVE IT SO
  • 00:12:52.290 --> 00:12:55.150
  • MUCH, SOMETIMES WE HATE IT AND EVEN GET BITTER
  • 00:12:55.170 --> 00:12:57.130
  • WHEN GOD IS USING SOMEONE'S WEAKNESS OR
  • 00:12:57.150 --> 00:13:00.060
  • EVEN SOMETIMES THEIR ILL INTENT OR REALLY BAD
  • 00:13:00.080 --> 00:13:02.030
  • SITUATIONS TO GET US EXACTLY WHERE HE WANTS
  • 00:13:02.050 --> 00:13:04.160
  • US TO GO.
  • 00:13:04.180 --> 00:13:06.060
  • DUTY IS OURS AND RESULTS ARE GOD'S.
  • 00:13:06.080 --> 00:13:08.210
  • HE'S ALWAYS WORKING BEHINDS THE SCENES, AND
  • 00:13:08.230 --> 00:13:10.160
  • OUR STORY, EVERY ONE OF THE VIEWERS THAT WATCH
  • 00:13:10.180 --> 00:13:12.260
  • THE SHOW THEY HAVE A STORY, THEY HAVE A PART
  • 00:13:12.280 --> 00:13:15.100
  • TO PLAY.
  • 00:13:15.120 --> 00:13:16.240
  • GOD IS FAITHFUL.
  • 00:13:16.260 --> 00:13:18.110
  • HE'S WORKING BEHIND THE SCENES EVEN WHEN WE CAN'T
  • 00:13:18.130 --> 00:13:19.280
  • SEE HIS HAND.
  • 00:13:20.000 --> 00:13:21.210
  • - THE KEY IS TO NOT TRY TO FIGURE IT OUT.
  • 00:13:21.230 --> 00:13:23.160
  • YOU DON'T FOCUS ON THE VALUE OF WHAT'S IN
  • 00:13:23.180 --> 00:13:25.010
  • YOUR HAND.
  • 00:13:25.030 --> 00:13:26.140
  • YOU FOCUS ON THE VALUE OF THE ONE WHO PUT IT THERE
  • 00:13:26.160 --> 00:13:28.070
  • IN THE FIRST PLACE.
  • 00:13:28.090 --> 00:13:29.270
  • AND WHEN YOU DO THAT, YOU CAN OPERATE WITH YOUR
  • 00:13:29.290 --> 00:13:31.050
  • OPEN HAND LIKE THIS.
  • 00:13:31.070 --> 00:13:33.030
  • AND YOU NEVER OPERATE WITH A CLENCHED FIST NOT
  • 00:13:33.050 --> 00:13:34.210
  • WILLING TO LET SOMETHING GO.
  • 00:13:34.230 --> 00:13:36.080
  • AND WHEN YOU DO THAT, I'M TELLING YOU THERE'S SUCH
  • 00:13:36.100 --> 00:13:37.200
  • FREEDOM IT'S AMAZING.
  • 00:13:37.220 --> 00:13:39.060
  • AND ONE THING THAT'S REALLY BOTHERING ME
  • 00:13:39.080 --> 00:13:41.020
  • THOUGH IS HE'S STANDING ON A LITTLE LEDGE AND HE
  • 00:13:41.040 --> 00:13:42.180
  • LOOKS SO MUCH TALLER.
  • 00:13:42.200 --> 00:13:44.020
  • - I'M TRYING TO LIKE SQUAT DOWN A LITTLE BIT.
  • 00:13:44.040 --> 00:13:46.030
  • - VERY UNCOMFORTABLE RIGHT NOW.
  • 00:13:46.050 --> 00:13:47.230
  • - I KNOW THE INSECURITY TO BE HONEST.
  • 00:13:47.250 --> 00:13:49.120
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:13:49.140 --> 00:13:55.070
  • - OKAY.
  • 00:13:55.090 --> 00:13:56.180
  • BOLD AND BROKEN.
  • 00:13:56.200 --> 00:13:58.240
  • I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT THE FACT THAT THE COVER LOOKS
  • 00:13:58.260 --> 00:14:00.270
  • A LOT LIKE MY SHIRT.
  • 00:14:00.290 --> 00:14:02.090
  • - YES, IT DOES.
  • 00:14:02.110 --> 00:14:03.210
  • AND YOUR PANTS TO POINT OUT THOSE VIKING BLUE EYES.
  • 00:14:03.230 --> 00:14:05.090
  • - ULTIMATELY IT'S JUST WORKING.
  • 00:14:05.110 --> 00:14:07.100
  • SO LAURIE IS GOING TO SIT AND GIGGLE BECAUSE SHE
  • 00:14:07.120 --> 00:14:11.030
  • THINKS THEY'RE FUNNY, AND THEY ARE.
  • 00:14:11.050 --> 00:14:13.060
  • THEY'RE LIKE TWO MORE OF OUR KIDS.
  • 00:14:13.080 --> 00:14:16.080
  • - WHO GOT YOU TO SAY BOLD AND BROKEN INSTEAD
  • 00:14:16.100 --> 00:14:19.100
  • OF THE BOLD AND THE BEAUTIFUL.
  • 00:14:19.120 --> 00:14:21.030
  • I BET THAT WAS A HARD ONE FOR BOTH OF YOU.
  • 00:14:21.050 --> 00:14:23.070
  • - THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.
  • 00:14:23.090 --> 00:14:24.160
  • - CRY FACTOR.
  • 00:14:24.180 --> 00:14:26.250
  • - BECOMING THE BRIDGE BETWEEN HEAVEN AND THE
  • 00:14:26.270 --> 00:14:29.200
  • EARTH, AND YOU'RE NOT TELLING US THAT TO BE
  • 00:14:29.220 --> 00:14:32.260
  • BOLD THAT WE HAVE TO GET A PICKET SIGN AND GO --
  • 00:14:32.280 --> 00:14:35.250
  • - NOT AT ALL.
  • 00:14:35.270 --> 00:14:37.140
  • - GO IN FRONT OF SOME PROTEST KIND OF
  • 00:14:37.160 --> 00:14:39.170
  • A SITUATION.
  • 00:14:39.190 --> 00:14:41.010
  • WE'RE NOT TRYING TO SAY THAT.
  • 00:14:41.030 --> 00:14:43.120
  • HELP OUR AUDIENCE KNOW WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM IN
  • 00:14:43.140 --> 00:14:48.020
  • BEING BOLD BUT BROKEN AND HOW THIS APPLIES.
  • 00:14:48.040 --> 00:14:51.160
  • - WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE GAP THAT GOD WANTS US TO
  • 00:14:51.180 --> 00:14:54.190
  • STAND IN THE MIDST OF, WE'RE LOOKING AT EACH
  • 00:14:54.210 --> 00:14:58.020
  • CHRISTIAN BEING A BRIDGE THAT CONNECTS GOD WITH
  • 00:14:58.040 --> 00:15:00.040
  • THE PEOPLE WHO ARE DISCONNECTED FROM HIM.
  • 00:15:00.060 --> 00:15:02.070
  • SO WE WROTE THE BOOK FROM A PERSPECTIVE THAT ANYONE
  • 00:15:02.090 --> 00:15:04.210
  • WHO'S A BELIEVER CAN ACTUALLY BE THAT BRIDGE.
  • 00:15:04.230 --> 00:15:07.040
  • BUT IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LEVEL OF BOLDNESS TO DO
  • 00:15:07.060 --> 00:15:09.160
  • IT, LIKE WHEN YOU'RE GOING TO THE GROCERY
  • 00:15:09.180 --> 00:15:11.110
  • STORE AROUND, YOU SEAT SAME PERSON IN THE CHECK
  • 00:15:11.130 --> 00:15:13.130
  • OUTLINE EVERY SINGLE TIME.
  • 00:15:13.150 --> 00:15:15.080
  • AND THEN THIS ONE PARTICULAR TIME MAYBE
  • 00:15:15.100 --> 00:15:17.020
  • THEY LOOK A LITTLE DISCOURAGED AND YOU FEEL
  • 00:15:17.040 --> 00:15:18.240
  • THAT LITTLE PRICK IN YOUR HEART WHERE YOU KNOW THE
  • 00:15:18.260 --> 00:15:20.250
  • HOLY SPIRIT IS TELLING YOU, SAY JESUS LOVES YOU.
  • 00:15:20.270 --> 00:15:23.180
  • OR ASK IF YOU CAN PRAY FOR THEM, BUT IN THAT
  • 00:15:23.200 --> 00:15:26.010
  • MOMENT YOU FEEL LIKE OH, NO.
  • 00:15:26.030 --> 00:15:28.150
  • THEY'RE GOING TO REJECT ME OR I DON'T WANT
  • 00:15:28.170 --> 00:15:29.290
  • TO DO THAT.
  • 00:15:30.010 --> 00:15:31.150
  • IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LEVEL OF BOLDNESS
  • 00:15:31.170 --> 00:15:33.050
  • TO DO THAT.
  • 00:15:33.070 --> 00:15:34.280
  • BUT YOU DON'T GO, YOU DON'T WALK RIGHT UP TO
  • 00:15:35.000 --> 00:15:36.230
  • THEM AND GO YOU'RE PROBABLY STRUGGLING WITH
  • 00:15:36.250 --> 00:15:38.150
  • SOME SIN AND POINT THE FINGER OR SOMETHING LIKE
  • 00:15:38.170 --> 00:15:40.060
  • THAT BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO TAKE BROKENNESS.
  • 00:15:40.080 --> 00:15:41.200
  • BROKENNESS IS THAT HUMILITY.
  • 00:15:41.220 --> 00:15:43.140
  • SO WHEN YOUR BOLDNESS IS FUELED BY YOUR BROKENNESS,
  • 00:15:43.160 --> 00:15:46.090
  • IT'S ONLY AT THAT POINT THAT YOU CAN BECOME A
  • 00:15:46.110 --> 00:15:48.180
  • BRIDGE, AND HERE'S WHAT I MEAN BY BROKEN.
  • 00:15:48.200 --> 00:15:51.030
  • OUR DAD WHEN WE WERE KIDS HE WAS A PASTOR, AND HE
  • 00:15:51.050 --> 00:15:52.280
  • USED TO SAY BOYS, ONLY THOSE HORSES WILLING TO
  • 00:15:53.000 --> 00:15:55.190
  • BE BROKEN BY THESE MASTER ARE FIT TO PULL THE
  • 00:15:55.210 --> 00:15:57.220
  • KING'S CHARIOT.
  • 00:15:57.240 --> 00:15:59.130
  • THE REST ARE LEFT TO PASTURE.
  • 00:15:59.150 --> 00:16:01.040
  • AND THAT'S WHAT IT MEANS.
  • 00:16:01.060 --> 00:16:02.150
  • IT MEANS TO BE SUBMITTED.
  • 00:16:02.170 --> 00:16:04.100
  • STRENGTH SUBMITTED TO GOD.
  • 00:16:04.120 --> 00:16:06.060
  • AND WHEN YOU HAVE THAT, YOU CAN ACTUALLY BRING
  • 00:16:06.080 --> 00:16:08.290
  • CHRIST INTO A SITUATION.
  • 00:16:09.010 --> 00:16:11.150
  • [MUSIC]
  • 00:16:11.170 --> 00:16:16.190
  • - ONE SITUATION IN PARTICULAR, AND THIS
  • 00:16:16.210 --> 00:16:18.140
  • GIVES HOPEFULLY A REALLY GOOD EXAMPLE, JASON AND I
  • 00:16:18.160 --> 00:16:20.170
  • GOT ON AN AIRPLANE, WE WERE FLYING TO ST. LOUIS
  • 00:16:20.190 --> 00:16:23.030
  • TO SPEAK AT AN EVENT.
  • 00:16:23.050 --> 00:16:25.030
  • AND I'M SITTING ON THE AISLE.
  • 00:16:25.050 --> 00:16:27.130
  • JASON IS ALREADY UGLY FACE SNOOZING AGAINST THE
  • 00:16:27.150 --> 00:16:29.230
  • WINDOW, AND THERE'S A SEAT IN BETWEEN US
  • 00:16:29.250 --> 00:16:32.090
  • [ LAUGHTER ] AND I GET MY BIBLE OUT, BY THE WAY
  • 00:16:32.110 --> 00:16:35.010
  • JASON ONLY READS ON HIS PHONE BECAUSE HE'S
  • 00:16:35.030 --> 00:16:36.270
  • ASHAMED, BUT I HAVE ACTUALLY HAVE THE WORD OF
  • 00:16:36.290 --> 00:16:39.020
  • GOD, MY LEATHER WIDE MARGIN BIBLE.
  • 00:16:39.040 --> 00:16:41.030
  • I'VE GOT IT OUT.
  • 00:16:41.050 --> 00:16:42.140
  • - I'M SEEING SOME PRIDE.
  • 00:16:42.160 --> 00:16:44.000
  • THAT BIBLE DIDN'T REALLY LIKE SIT IN THERE.
  • 00:16:44.020 --> 00:16:46.030
  • - WELL, I'M SITTING THERE READING IT, AND
  • 00:16:46.050 --> 00:16:47.200
  • THIS LADY COMES WALKING UP AND SHE SAYS, I'M
  • 00:16:47.220 --> 00:16:49.030
  • SITTING BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU.
  • 00:16:49.050 --> 00:16:51.090
  • AND I SAID OKAY, GREAT.
  • 00:16:51.110 --> 00:16:53.260
  • I STAND UP.
  • 00:16:53.280 --> 00:16:54.290
  • I HELP HER TO HER SEAT.
  • 00:16:55.010 --> 00:16:56.100
  • SHE SITS DOWN, AND I'M JUST SITTING THERE
  • 00:16:56.120 --> 00:16:57.190
  • READING MY BIBLE AND SHE JUST LOOKS OVER AT ME AND
  • 00:16:57.210 --> 00:16:59.080
  • SAYS I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT I'M A FLAMING
  • 00:16:59.100 --> 00:17:00.200
  • LIBERAL FEMINIST AND I BELIEVE NOTHING LIKE YOU.
  • 00:17:00.220 --> 00:17:02.060
  • AND SHE POINTS AT MY BIBLE.
  • 00:17:02.080 --> 00:17:03.290
  • AND I WAS LIKE OKAY, WELL IT'S NICE TO MEET YOU,
  • 00:17:04.010 --> 00:17:05.240
  • YOU KNOW?
  • 00:17:05.260 --> 00:17:07.070
  • [MUSIC]
  • 00:17:07.090 --> 00:17:14.080
  • - NOW IN THAT MOMENT, OKAY, THERE WAS A COUPLE
  • 00:17:14.100 --> 00:17:17.090
  • OF THINGS GOING ON, NUMBER ONE, THERE'S KIND
  • 00:17:17.110 --> 00:17:19.290
  • OF THAT FLESHY SIDE LIKE WAIT, HOLD ON A SECOND,
  • 00:17:20.010 --> 00:17:22.090
  • THAT DEFENSE, LIKE OKAY, WAIT.
  • 00:17:22.110 --> 00:17:25.030
  • I'M GONNA WALK DOWN YOUR WORLDVIEW AND
  • 00:17:25.050 --> 00:17:27.060
  • SHOW YOU WHY MINE'S SO MUCH BETTER THAN YOURS,
  • 00:17:27.080 --> 00:17:29.060
  • SO I KIND OF HAD THAT LITTLE BRASH FLESHLY
  • 00:17:29.080 --> 00:17:31.190
  • BOLDNESS, BUT THEN I REMEMBERED.
  • 00:17:31.210 --> 00:17:34.090
  • - WHAT WOULD JASON DO?
  • 00:17:34.110 --> 00:17:35.230
  • - YEAH, NO.
  • 00:17:35.250 --> 00:17:37.060
  • DUDE, THAT IS SO SACRILEGIOUS!
  • 00:17:37.080 --> 00:17:39.090
  • W.W.J.D. WHAT A JOKE.
  • 00:17:39.110 --> 00:17:42.110
  • NO, NOT WHAT WOULD JASON DO; WHAT WAS JASON DOING?
  • 00:17:42.130 --> 00:17:45.000
  • - JUST SCREAM THAT.
  • 00:17:45.020 --> 00:17:47.020
  • - I LOVE THAT! I LOVE THAT!
  • 00:17:47.040 --> 00:17:49.140
  • - THERE'S A MAN CRUSH DEVELOPING HERE.
  • 00:17:49.160 --> 00:17:51.010
  • WOULD YOU LET ME GET BACK TO THE STORY BECAUSE THIS
  • 00:17:51.030 --> 00:17:52.180
  • REALLY ILLUSTRATES WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO
  • 00:17:52.200 --> 00:17:54.150
  • ACCOMPLISH IN THIS BOOK. SO BUT THEN I REMEMBERED--
  • 00:17:54.170 --> 00:17:57.240
  • - WE'VE GOTTA BUMP BECAUSE THERE'S AN
  • 00:17:57.260 --> 00:18:00.040
  • ULTIMATE SHOT.
  • 00:18:00.060 --> 00:18:01.260
  • THERE'S THAT MOUNTAIN IN THE BACKGROUND BACK THERE.
  • 00:18:01.280 --> 00:18:04.150
  • - GOOD FOR YOU.
  • 00:18:04.170 --> 00:18:06.020
  • LAURIE, WE'LL JUST WAVE AT EACH OTHER.
  • 00:18:06.040 --> 00:18:08.180
  • - GO AHEAD.
  • 00:18:08.200 --> 00:18:09.260
  • - SO HERE WE ARE, I GET THIS, KIND OF THIS A
  • 00:18:09.280 --> 00:18:11.230
  • LITTLE KNEEJERK REACTION, THEN I REALIZE THIS IS A
  • 00:18:11.250 --> 00:18:15.020
  • WOMAN WHOM GOD CREATED AND LOVES VERY MUCH, AND
  • 00:18:15.040 --> 00:18:18.290
  • THE HOLY SPIRIT SPOKE TO MY HEART AND SAID JUST
  • 00:18:19.010 --> 00:18:20.260
  • LISTEN TO HER STORY.
  • 00:18:20.280 --> 00:18:22.140
  • SO I SIMPLY, I JUST CLOSED MY BIBLE AND SAID
  • 00:18:22.160 --> 00:18:24.210
  • SO TELL ME ABOUT YOUR LIFE.
  • 00:18:24.230 --> 00:18:27.040
  • AND THEN SHE GOES-- AND NOW BY THE TIME, WE'RE
  • 00:18:27.060 --> 00:18:29.090
  • PROBABLY 45 MINUTES INTO THIS ONE-SIDED CONVERSATION.
  • 00:18:29.110 --> 00:18:32.230
  • WE'RE ABOUT 30.000 FEET UP, AND AS SHE BEGINS
  • 00:18:32.250 --> 00:18:35.200
  • TALKING TO ME, I STARTED ASKING HER ABOUT HER
  • 00:18:35.220 --> 00:18:37.240
  • CHILDHOOD, AND THE NEXT THING YOU KNOW, SHE SAYS
  • 00:18:37.260 --> 00:18:40.260
  • AS SHE'S TELLING ME ABOUT HER CHILDREN, HER TWO
  • 00:18:40.280 --> 00:18:43.270
  • KIDS, ONE HAS ANXIETY, ANOTHER IS SEVERELY
  • 00:18:43.290 --> 00:18:46.290
  • DEPRESSED, AND THE LORD PUT IT ON MY HEART READ
  • 00:18:47.010 --> 00:18:50.220
  • PSALM 139 TO HER. I WAS LIKE OH, OKAY.
  • 00:18:50.240 --> 00:18:54.180
  • SO I ASKED HER FIRST POLITELY, I SAID DO YOU
  • 00:18:54.200 --> 00:18:58.120
  • MIND IF I JUST READ YOU JUST A SCRIPTURE I THINK
  • 00:18:58.140 --> 00:19:00.260
  • THAT MIGHT BE AN ENCOURAGEMENT TO YOU.
  • 00:19:00.280 --> 00:19:02.060
  • SHE SAID SURE.
  • 00:19:02.080 --> 00:19:03.140
  • SO I OPENED MY BIBLE, AND I BEGAN TO READ RIGHT
  • 00:19:03.160 --> 00:19:05.200
  • WHEN I GOT TO THE PART WHERE IT SAYS BEFORE I
  • 00:19:05.220 --> 00:19:08.090
  • FORMED YOU I KNEW YOU, MY EYES SAW YOUR UNFORMED
  • 00:19:08.110 --> 00:19:10.280
  • SUBSTANCE, MY THOUGHTS ABOUT YOU ARE VAST, THEY
  • 00:19:11.000 --> 00:19:13.260
  • FAR OUTNUMBER THE SAND ON THE SEA.
  • 00:19:13.280 --> 00:19:16.090
  • ALL THE SUDDEN HER CHIN STARTS QUIVERING AND
  • 00:19:16.110 --> 00:19:18.270
  • TEARS START ROLLING DOWN HER CHEEKS AND I KNEW,
  • 00:19:18.290 --> 00:19:22.290
  • I'M LIKE OH, MY GOODNESS, OKAY THE LORD IS
  • 00:19:23.010 --> 00:19:25.090
  • TRANSACTING WITH HER.
  • 00:19:25.110 --> 00:19:26.250
  • I JUST HAPPENED TO BE A BRIDGE.
  • 00:19:26.270 --> 00:19:28.080
  • THE LORD IS HAVING A TRANSACTION HERE, AND SHE
  • 00:19:28.100 --> 00:19:30.020
  • THEN SAYS I CAN'T BELIEVE I'M TELLING YOU THIS
  • 00:19:30.040 --> 00:19:32.150
  • BECAUSE I NORMALLY NEVER TELL ANYBODY THIS, BUT
  • 00:19:32.170 --> 00:19:36.000
  • SHE SAID MY ENTIRE ADULT LIFE I'VE HAD THIS
  • 00:19:36.020 --> 00:19:37.290
  • REPETITIVE DREAM THAT I'M IN A HOSPITAL-- AND BY
  • 00:19:38.010 --> 00:19:40.220
  • THE WAY I WAS ADOPTED AT BIRTH IS WHAT SHE TOLD ME.
  • 00:19:40.240 --> 00:19:43.050
  • BUT SHE GOES I'M IN THIS HOSPITAL, I'M IN THE
  • 00:19:43.070 --> 00:19:45.050
  • INCUBATOR LOOKING UP AT THE DOCTORS AND NURSES,
  • 00:19:45.070 --> 00:19:48.030
  • AND I'M YELLING AT THEM AS A BABY "DON'T WORRY
  • 00:19:48.050 --> 00:19:52.020
  • ABOUT ME, I'LL TAKE CARE OF MYSELF."
  • 00:19:52.040 --> 00:19:54.110
  • NOW SHE GOT TO THE HEART OF HER FEMINISM.
  • 00:19:54.130 --> 00:19:56.290
  • SHE GOT TO THE HEART OF THE PAIN AND THE
  • 00:19:57.010 --> 00:19:59.100
  • BROKENNESS THAT SHE HAD INSIDE OF HER WITHOUT
  • 00:19:59.120 --> 00:20:01.280
  • ME SAYING A WORD.
  • 00:20:02.000 --> 00:20:03.120
  • NOW IT TOOK A LEVEL OF BOLDNESS BECAUSE I KNEW
  • 00:20:03.140 --> 00:20:05.140
  • I NEEDED TO LISTEN AND SPEAK THE SCRIPTURE,
  • 00:20:05.160 --> 00:20:08.060
  • BUT IT WAS FUELED BY BROKENNESS OVER HER OWN
  • 00:20:08.080 --> 00:20:11.240
  • HURTS AND HER OWN PAIN.
  • 00:20:11.260 --> 00:20:14.070
  • - LET ME MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND BECAUSE THAT
  • 00:20:18.160 --> 00:20:22.240
  • STORY ALONE RIGHT THERE IS KIND OF ALMOST
  • 00:20:22.260 --> 00:20:27.120
  • ANALOGIZING WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
  • 00:20:27.140 --> 00:20:29.290
  • STANDING IN THE GAP, BEING BOLD AND BROKEN IS
  • 00:20:30.010 --> 00:20:32.070
  • NOT PICKETING SOMETHING.
  • 00:20:32.090 --> 00:20:34.130
  • IT IS BOLDNESS ENOUGH, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY TO
  • 00:20:34.150 --> 00:20:40.160
  • READ A SCRIPTURE TO SOMEBODY WHO SAID I DON'T
  • 00:20:40.180 --> 00:20:42.190
  • BELIEVE ANYTHING YOU HAVE TO SAY.
  • 00:20:42.210 --> 00:20:43.290
  • - TO SIMPLY SPEAK THE TRUTH.
  • 00:20:44.010 --> 00:20:45.130
  • - BUT WITH A BROKENNESS WHERE THE BROKENNESS CAME
  • 00:20:45.150 --> 00:20:47.290
  • IN IS WILLINGNESS TO NOT FIGHT IT OUT WITH HER
  • 00:20:48.010 --> 00:20:51.140
  • OVER YOUR WORLDVIEW WHICH YOU KNOW IS RIGHT.
  • 00:20:51.160 --> 00:20:54.110
  • - YEAH. YEAH.
  • 00:20:54.130 --> 00:20:56.000
  • - LAURIE: I THINK THE KEY IS SPOKEN IN LOVE.
  • 00:20:56.020 --> 00:20:57.260
  • - THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. THAT IS EXACTLY RIGHT.
  • 00:20:57.280 --> 00:21:00.080
  • AND WHILE WE SPEAK THE TRUTH WITH COURAGE, WE
  • 00:21:00.100 --> 00:21:02.290
  • HAVE TO LOVE THE PEOPLE WITH COMPASSION.
  • 00:21:03.010 --> 00:21:05.130
  • THAT COURAGE AND COMPASSION, THAT BOLD AND
  • 00:21:05.150 --> 00:21:07.010
  • BROKEN, THEY GO HAND IN HAND BECAUSE TRUTH IS NOT AN IT.
  • 00:21:07.030 --> 00:21:10.120
  • IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S OUTSIDE OF OURSELVES.
  • 00:21:10.140 --> 00:21:12.210
  • TRUTH IS A MAN WHOSE NAME IS JESUS CHRIST.
  • 00:21:12.230 --> 00:21:16.050
  • [MUSIC]
  • 00:21:16.070 --> 00:21:24.080
  • - ANNOUNCER: DON'T MISS PRIME TIME WEEKNIGHTS ON TBN.
  • 00:21:27.190 --> 00:21:31.040
  • WE'RE BRINGING YOU THE BEST IN EXCLUSIVE AND
  • 00:21:31.060 --> 00:21:32.270
  • ORIGINAL TBN PROGRAMMING.
  • 00:21:32.290 --> 00:21:36.100
  • ENGAGING TALK, GREAT WORSHIP, CUTTING-EDGE
  • 00:21:36.120 --> 00:21:39.090
  • TEACHING AND MINISTRY ALL TO INSPIRE YOUR HEART AND
  • 00:21:39.110 --> 00:21:42.040
  • ENCOURAGE YOUR WALK WITH GOD.
  • 00:21:42.060 --> 00:21:43.180
  • - JOYCE MEYER: YOU'VE GOTTA DO SOME PRAYING.
  • 00:21:43.200 --> 00:21:45.050
  • - ANNOUNCER: IT ALL STARTS WITH MONDAY NIGHT
  • 00:21:45.070 --> 00:21:46.210
  • MOTIVATIONS FEATURING POWERFUL NEW TEACHING SERIES
  • 00:21:46.230 --> 00:21:48.160
  • FROM TBN FAVORITES.
  • 00:21:48.180 --> 00:21:50.110
  • TUNE IN TUESDAYS FOR GIRLS NIGHT IN
  • 00:21:50.130 --> 00:21:51.230
  • WITH THE LADIES OF TBN.
  • 00:21:51.250 --> 00:21:53.090
  • - BETTER TOGETHER!
  • 00:21:53.110 --> 00:21:55.280
  • - ANNOUNCER: THEN IT'S NON-STOP MUSIC AND A
  • 00:21:56.000 --> 00:21:57.190
  • WHOLE LOT MORE WITH WEDNESDAY NIGHT WORSHIP.
  • 00:21:57.210 --> 00:22:01.110
  • THURSDAYS WITH CULTURE CHANGERS AND HISTORY
  • 00:22:01.130 --> 00:22:03.100
  • MAKERS FEATURING KIRK CAMERON ALONG WITH NEW
  • 00:22:03.120 --> 00:22:05.240
  • SEASONS OF SOME TBN VIEWER FAVORITES.
  • 00:22:05.260 --> 00:22:09.050
  • FINISH YOUR WEEK STRONG EVERY FRIDAY AS WE FOCUS
  • 00:22:09.070 --> 00:22:12.270
  • ON THE ROOTS AND REVELATION OF OUR FAITH
  • 00:22:12.290 --> 00:22:14.290
  • AND WHAT GOD IS DOING ACROSS THE EARTH.
  • 00:22:15.010 --> 00:22:17.230
  • IT'S ENTERTAINING, IT'S INSPIRING, IT'S PRIME
  • 00:22:17.250 --> 00:22:20.060
  • TIME WEEKNIGHTS ONLY ON TBN.
  • 00:22:20.080 --> 00:22:24.250
  • - WHEN THE FIRE STORM CAME IN, WE HAD AN
  • 00:22:27.100 --> 00:22:28.260
  • OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH H.G.
  • 00:22:28.280 --> 00:22:30.190
  • AND ALL THE FOLKS OVER THERE AND EXPLAIN TO THEM
  • 00:22:30.210 --> 00:22:32.290
  • WHO WE WERE AS PEOPLE, THAT WE SELL TO ALL
  • 00:22:33.010 --> 00:22:36.180
  • PEOPLE OF ALL KINDS, AND THAT WE WOULD BE GLAD TO
  • 00:22:36.200 --> 00:22:40.200
  • TAKE A HOMOSEXUAL COUPLE ONTO OUR SHOW, BUT I DID
  • 00:22:40.220 --> 00:22:45.040
  • EXPLAIN TO THEM BUT THE FIRE STORM WILL KICK UP
  • 00:22:45.060 --> 00:22:47.250
  • AS LONG AS DAVID AND I ARE HOSTS ON YOUR NETWORK.
  • 00:22:47.270 --> 00:22:51.180
  • IT'S ONLY GONNA GET WORSE BECAUSE THERE IS AN
  • 00:22:51.200 --> 00:22:54.010
  • AGENDA THAT WANTS TO SILENCE THE BELIEFS THAT
  • 00:22:54.030 --> 00:22:56.030
  • WE HAVE, SO OUR HEARTS GO OUT TO H.G.T.V.
  • 00:22:56.050 --> 00:22:59.030
  • THEY SUNK A LOT OF MONEY INTO IT.
  • 00:22:59.050 --> 00:23:01.150
  • WE REALLY FEEL BAD FOR THEM RIGHT NOW.
  • 00:23:01.170 --> 00:23:03.280
  • - FEMALE NEWS HOST: WHY DO YOUR HEARTS GO OUT THEM?
  • 00:23:04.000 --> 00:23:06.100
  • THEY CANCELED YOUR SHOW.
  • 00:23:06.120 --> 00:23:07.180
  • - WE FEEL THAT THEY GOT, WELL, BUT WE UNDERSTAND
  • 00:23:07.200 --> 00:23:10.040
  • THEY ACTUALLY TOOK AN INVESTMENT INTO US AND
  • 00:23:10.060 --> 00:23:13.190
  • THEY BELIEVED IN US. H.G. IS A VERY SMART NETWORK.
  • 00:23:13.210 --> 00:23:17.150
  • THEY DID ALL THE RESEARCH AND THEY KNEW WHO WE WERE.
  • 00:23:17.170 --> 00:23:20.240
  • WE ACTUALLY OVER A YEAR AGO MET WITH ONE OF THE
  • 00:23:20.260 --> 00:23:22.240
  • EXECUTIVES IN PERSON AND SPOKE ABOUT THE VERY
  • 00:23:22.260 --> 00:23:25.250
  • THINGS THAT NOW ON RIGHT-WING WATCH AND
  • 00:23:25.270 --> 00:23:28.080
  • OTHER BLOGS ARE TALKING ABOUT, AND THEY SAW
  • 00:23:28.100 --> 00:23:30.280
  • BEHIND OUR EYES THAT WE LOVE ALL PEOPLE, THAT WE
  • 00:23:31.000 --> 00:23:32.280
  • HAVE NO ILL INTENT TOWARD ANYONE, AND THEY
  • 00:23:33.000 --> 00:23:35.240
  • SAID WE WANT TO PUT A SHOW OUT FOR YOU
  • 00:23:35.260 --> 00:23:38.100
  • AND YOUR BROTHER.
  • 00:23:38.130 --> 00:23:39.210
  • AND SO WHEN ALL THE SUDDEN THE HYPE STARTED,
  • 00:23:39.230 --> 00:23:43.030
  • IT WAS JUST DIFFICULT FOR THEM AND MAYBE THEY WOULD
  • 00:23:43.050 --> 00:23:45.030
  • LOSE ADVERTISERS, I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE, THEY DIDN'T
  • 00:23:45.050 --> 00:23:48.040
  • GIVE US THE REASON, BUT THEY'RE IN BUSINESS.
  • 00:23:48.060 --> 00:23:51.180
  • HEY, WE'RE IN A FREE COUNTRY. THEY CAN SAY
  • 00:23:51.200 --> 00:23:53.290
  • YOU KNOW WHAT, WE DON'T WANT YOUR SHOW ANYMORE.
  • 00:23:54.010 --> 00:23:55.280
  • AND AS A RESULT, I FEEL LIKE THEY GOT BULLIED.
  • 00:23:56.000 --> 00:23:58.230
  • THERE'S AN AGENDA THAT'S OUT HERE AND THAT'S THE
  • 00:23:58.250 --> 00:24:00.270
  • REAL ISSUE HERE IS THAT THERE'S AN AGENDA THAT'S
  • 00:24:00.290 --> 00:24:03.230
  • OUT IN AMERICA RIGHT NOW THAT DEMANDS SILENCE,
  • 00:24:03.250 --> 00:24:07.140
  • ESPECIALLY FROM MEN AND WOMEN WHO PROFESS
  • 00:24:07.160 --> 00:24:09.290
  • JESUS CHRIST AND HOLD TO HIS STANDARDS.
  • 00:24:10.010 --> 00:24:12.240
  • [SOFT MUSIC]
  • 00:24:12.260 --> 00:24:24.290
  • - WE KNOW THE FEELING OF WHAT IT MEANS TO BE AFRAID.
  • 00:24:25.010 --> 00:24:28.190
  • FEAR ISN'T-- COURAGE ISN'T THE ABSENCE OF FEAR.
  • 00:24:28.210 --> 00:24:33.210
  • IT'S DOING WHAT'S RIGHT IN THE PRESENCE OF IT.
  • 00:24:33.230 --> 00:24:36.130
  • I MEAN AS A MATTER OF FACT, I REMEMBER THE
  • 00:24:36.150 --> 00:24:38.060
  • PROTESTERS SHOWED UP, THIS WAS A COUPLE OF
  • 00:24:38.080 --> 00:24:40.000
  • WEEKS BEFORE WE GOT FIRED FROM H.G.T.V., AND THEY
  • 00:24:40.020 --> 00:24:42.270
  • HAD HEARD THE BENHAM BROTHERS WERE GETTING A
  • 00:24:42.290 --> 00:24:44.120
  • SHOW, AND JASON AND I WERE TERRIFIED, SO WE
  • 00:24:44.140 --> 00:24:46.180
  • WENT AND BOTH OF US JUST BEFORE WE ACTUALLY
  • 00:24:46.200 --> 00:24:50.170
  • STARTED FILMING THAT DAY WE WENT BEHIND THE SHED
  • 00:24:50.190 --> 00:24:53.130
  • AND WE PRAYED, AND WE SAID LORD JESUS, WE KNOW
  • 00:24:53.150 --> 00:24:56.080
  • WHAT THESE PROTESTS CAN LEAD TO, THEY CAN BE BIG,
  • 00:24:56.100 --> 00:24:58.280
  • AND WE DON'T WANT THIS.
  • 00:24:59.000 --> 00:25:00.270
  • IT WAS ALMOST LIKE JESUS ASKING TAKE THE CUP LORD,
  • 00:25:00.290 --> 00:25:03.170
  • TAKE THE CUP, BUT NOT MY WILL BUT YOURS BE DONE.
  • 00:25:03.190 --> 00:25:06.040
  • AND WE SAID LORD, JUST GIVE US THE STRENGTH
  • 00:25:06.060 --> 00:25:08.110
  • BECAUSE WE REALLY DON'T WANT TO LOSE THE SHOW.
  • 00:25:08.130 --> 00:25:10.250
  • AND THE LORD ENCOURAGED US WITH A PROVERB.
  • 00:25:10.270 --> 00:25:14.090
  • IT SAYS A WISE MAN SCALES THE WALL OF THE MIGHTY
  • 00:25:14.110 --> 00:25:16.190
  • AND TEARS DOWN THE STRONGHOLD IN WHICH THEY TRUST.
  • 00:25:16.210 --> 00:25:19.120
  • AND IT WAS REALLY KIND OF SOMETHING GOD JUST BUILT
  • 00:25:19.140 --> 00:25:23.120
  • INSIDE OF US IN THAT MOMENT THAT YOU KNOW
  • 00:25:23.140 --> 00:25:25.280
  • WHAT, YES YOU'RE AFRAID, YOU NEED TO FACE YOUR
  • 00:25:26.000 --> 00:25:30.080
  • FEAR BECAUSE YOUR GREATEST BLESSING IS ON
  • 00:25:30.100 --> 00:25:32.210
  • THE OTHER SIDE OF YOUR GREATEST FEAR.
  • 00:25:32.230 --> 00:25:34.030
  • IT DIDN'T MEAN WE HAD TO GO OUT WITH SOME HEROICS.
  • 00:25:34.050 --> 00:25:36.070
  • ALL IT MEANT WAS STAND FIRM, SPEAK THE TRUTH OF GOD.
  • 00:25:36.090 --> 00:25:39.210
  • - I WANT TO PIGGY BACK ON THAT BECAUSE I
  • 00:25:39.230 --> 00:25:41.230
  • REMEMBER GOD SPECIFICALLY GAVE US THAT VERSE IN
  • 00:25:41.250 --> 00:25:44.140
  • PROVERBS ABOUT SCALING THE WALL OF THE MIGHTY
  • 00:25:44.160 --> 00:25:47.000
  • AND TEARING DOWN THE STRONGHOLD, BUT THEN I
  • 00:25:47.020 --> 00:25:48.270
  • ALSO REMEMBER IN THAT MOMENT THE BUTTERFLIES IN
  • 00:25:48.290 --> 00:25:51.080
  • OUR STOMACH WERE FLYING UP HERE, AND I REMEMBER
  • 00:25:51.100 --> 00:25:53.130
  • OUR DAD ALWAYS SAID GUYS, DON'T LET THE BUTTERFLIES
  • 00:25:53.150 --> 00:25:56.200
  • KEEP YOU FROM DOING WHAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:25:56.220 --> 00:25:58.020
  • MAKE THEM FLY IN FORMATION.
  • 00:25:58.040 --> 00:26:00.030
  • AND SO WE WENT BACK BEHIND THAT SHED, THERE
  • 00:26:00.050 --> 00:26:02.090
  • WERE PROTESTERS OUT IN FRONT OF THE HOUSE, WE
  • 00:26:02.110 --> 00:26:04.030
  • WERE JUST ABOUT TO START FILMING.
  • 00:26:04.050 --> 00:26:05.180
  • FILM CREWS WERE LIKE WHAT IN THE WORLD IS GOING ON
  • 00:26:05.200 --> 00:26:07.060
  • OUT HERE? WE SAID LET US GET ALONE REAL QUICK.
  • 00:26:07.080 --> 00:26:09.210
  • WE BEGAN TO PRAY, AND I REMEMBER THINKING ABOUT
  • 00:26:09.230 --> 00:26:12.150
  • WHEN JESUS PRAYED, HE HAD THAT THREE STEP PRAYER.
  • 00:26:12.170 --> 00:26:14.220
  • HE SAID FATHER, ALL THINGS ARE POSSIBLE FOR YOU.
  • 00:26:14.240 --> 00:26:16.270
  • I PRAY YOU TAKE THIS CUP FROM ME, BUT NOT MY WILL,
  • 00:26:16.290 --> 00:26:19.120
  • YOURS BE DONE. RIGHT THERE HE GAVE US A THREE STEP PLAN.
  • 00:26:19.140 --> 00:26:22.130
  • RECOGNIZE, REQUEST, RELEASE.
  • 00:26:22.150 --> 00:26:24.260
  • RECOGNIZE THAT GOD IS POWERFUL IN YOUR
  • 00:26:24.280 --> 00:26:26.180
  • SITUATION AND CAN DO WHATEVER HE WANTS.
  • 00:26:26.200 --> 00:26:28.040
  • - AND RECOGNIZE YOUR FEAR.
  • 00:26:28.060 --> 00:26:29.170
  • - AND MAKE THE REQUEST. GO AHEAD, MAKE A BOLD REQUEST,
  • 00:26:29.190 --> 00:26:32.030
  • BUT THEN RELEASE IT ALL TO HIM, AND WHEN YOU DO THAT,
  • 00:26:32.050 --> 00:26:34.120
  • GOD WILL GET YOU THROUGH THAT SITUATION.
  • 00:26:34.140 --> 00:26:36.090
  • - YOU STOLE THAT FROM ME.
  • 00:26:36.110 --> 00:26:37.170
  • - NO, MAN, YOU DIDN'T COME UP WITH THAT.
  • 00:26:37.190 --> 00:26:38.250
  • - YES, I DID.
  • 00:26:38.270 --> 00:26:40.060
  • [MUSIC]
  • 00:26:40.080 --> 00:26:46.290
  • - I LIKE THE WAY TONY EVANS SAYS IT.
  • 00:26:47.010 --> 00:26:48.130
  • HE SAYS LOVE IS COMPASSION WITH STANDARDS.
  • 00:26:48.150 --> 00:26:51.100
  • THAT'S ESSENTIAL TO WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
  • 00:26:51.120 --> 00:26:52.190
  • WITH BOLD AND BROKEN.
  • 00:26:52.210 --> 00:26:53.290
  • WE'RE TALKING ABOUT COMPASSION WITH STANDARDS.
  • 00:26:54.010 --> 00:26:55.200
  • LOOK, YOU'RE NOT JUST SO COMPASSIONATE THAT YOU'RE
  • 00:26:55.220 --> 00:26:57.110
  • NOT WILLING TO UPHOLD ANY STANDARDS ON ONE SIDE,
  • 00:26:57.130 --> 00:26:59.170
  • AND YOU'RE NOT ONLY TALKING ABOUT STANDARDS
  • 00:26:59.190 --> 00:27:01.230
  • AND YOU HAVE NO COMPASSION.
  • 00:27:01.250 --> 00:27:03.060
  • - GRACE AND TRUTH.
  • 00:27:03.080 --> 00:27:04.170
  • - EXACTLY. BUT IN THAT MOMENT, DAVID HE GOT LUCKY.
  • 00:27:04.190 --> 00:27:08.030
  • EVERY NOW AND THEN-- A BLIND DOG FINDS A BONE
  • 00:27:08.050 --> 00:27:10.110
  • EVERY NOW AND THEN.
  • 00:27:10.130 --> 00:27:12.090
  • BUT IN THAT MOMENT THERE WAS THAT RIGHT LEVEL OF
  • 00:27:12.110 --> 00:27:15.140
  • COMPASSION TO WHERE HE SAW HER AS HE SAW OUR OWN
  • 00:27:15.160 --> 00:27:18.070
  • MOM, AS THIS MOM SHE WAS OLDER THAN US AND SHE WAS
  • 00:27:18.090 --> 00:27:22.000
  • HURTING. BUT THERE WAS THIS BOLDNESS THAT WAS WILLING
  • 00:27:22.020 --> 00:27:25.030
  • TO SAY BUT YOU KNOW THERE ARE SOME STANDARDS, BUT
  • 00:27:25.050 --> 00:27:26.270
  • I'M NOT EVEN GONNA TELL YOU WHAT THOSE ARE;
  • 00:27:26.290 --> 00:27:28.090
  • I'M JUST GONNA OPEN THE SCRIPTURE AND LET YOU
  • 00:27:28.110 --> 00:27:30.010
  • READ IT FOR YOURSELF. AND THEN THE HOLY SPIRIT
  • 00:27:30.030 --> 00:27:31.270
  • COMES IN AND TRANSACTS.
  • 00:27:31.290 --> 00:27:33.190
  • THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN BOLDNESS AND
  • 00:27:33.210 --> 00:27:35.200
  • BROKENNESS. IF YOU'RE ALL BOLD WITH NO BROKEN,
  • 00:27:35.220 --> 00:27:37.290
  • YOU'RE A BULLY. THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS.
  • 00:27:38.010 --> 00:27:39.280
  • - AND YOU HAVE A PICKET SIGN.
  • 00:27:40.000 --> 00:27:41.100
  • - THAT'S RIGHT. - RUNNING AROUND.
  • 00:27:41.120 --> 00:27:42.250
  • - AND THE FLIP SIDE IS TRUE TOO THAT IF YOU'RE
  • 00:27:42.270 --> 00:27:45.110
  • ALL BROKEN, WHICH THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO REALLY ARE
  • 00:27:45.130 --> 00:27:47.090
  • WALKING IN HUMILITY AND LOVE JESUS, BUT THEY HAVE
  • 00:27:47.110 --> 00:27:49.120
  • ZERO BOLDNESS SO THEY'RE NOT BEING A BRIDGE FOR
  • 00:27:49.140 --> 00:27:52.100
  • ANYBODY. THEY'RE JUST A BYSTANDER.
  • 00:27:52.120 --> 00:27:54.100
  • SO WE'RE SAYING YOU CAN'T BE ONE OR THE OTHER.
  • 00:27:54.120 --> 00:27:56.040
  • WHAT GOD WANTS YOU TO DO IS STAND IN THE GAP.
  • 00:27:56.060 --> 00:27:58.120
  • - THAT MEANS IT'S GONNA TAKE BOLDNESS--
  • 00:27:58.140 --> 00:28:00.060
  • YOU INTERRUPT ME ONE MORE TIME.
  • 00:28:00.080 --> 00:28:01.270
  • IT'S GONNA BE A SHOW THAT'S CLEARLY LOST ITS WAY.
  • 00:28:01.290 --> 00:28:04.120
  • - SHE'S NOT EVEN LOOKING AT YOU!
  • 00:28:04.140 --> 00:28:06.020
  • - SHE'S LOOKING AROUND AT THE BEAUTIFUL LANDSCAPE.
  • 00:28:06.040 --> 00:28:07.210
  • - SHE'S SITTING THERE AS A MOTHER SAYING I WISH
  • 00:28:07.230 --> 00:28:09.250
  • JASON COULD TALK JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE.
  • 00:28:09.270 --> 00:28:11.180
  • - KEEP GOING.
  • 00:28:11.200 --> 00:28:12.280
  • - BOLDNESS FUELED BY BROKENNESS ALLOWS YOU TO
  • 00:28:13.000 --> 00:28:15.090
  • BE THE BRIDGE. THAT'S WHAT THE WHOLE BOOK IS ABOUT.
  • 00:28:15.110 --> 00:28:17.110
  • AND IT CAME ABOUT ONE MORNING WHEN I WAS OUT
  • 00:28:17.130 --> 00:28:20.130
  • PRAYING, AND I FELT LIKE THE LORD WAS TELLING ME
  • 00:28:20.150 --> 00:28:22.180
  • TO PRAY THE LORD'S PRAYER.
  • 00:28:22.200 --> 00:28:24.050
  • SO I STARTED, OUR FATHER WHO ART IN HEAVEN,
  • 00:28:24.070 --> 00:28:25.240
  • HALLOWED BE YOUR NAME, THY KINGDOM COME,
  • 00:28:25.260 --> 00:28:28.000
  • THY WILL BE DONE, ON EARTH AS IT IS IN HEAVEN.
  • 00:28:28.020 --> 00:28:30.230
  • AND I FELT LIKE THE HOLY SPIRIT SAID JUST STOP
  • 00:28:30.250 --> 00:28:33.010
  • RIGHT THERE. ON EARTH AS IT IS IN HEAVEN.
  • 00:28:33.030 --> 00:28:35.000
  • WAIT, THERE'S A GAP THERE.
  • 00:28:35.020 --> 00:28:36.270
  • AND THEN THAT VERSE FROM EZEKIEL CAME IN THAT
  • 00:28:36.290 --> 00:28:38.230
  • GOD'S LOOKING FOR SOMEONE TO STAND IN THE GAP, THAT
  • 00:28:38.250 --> 00:28:41.140
  • GAP, THAT BRIDGE TO DRAW THAT CONNECTION.
  • 00:28:41.160 --> 00:28:44.010
  • WELL THAT'S WHERE THE WHOLE GENESIS OF BOLD TO
  • 00:28:44.030 --> 00:28:46.080
  • BROKEN CAME FROM AND WE BECOME, IT'S NOT JUST A
  • 00:28:46.100 --> 00:28:48.230
  • PRAYER, IT'S A PARTICIPATION.
  • 00:28:48.250 --> 00:28:50.290
  • GOD WANTS US TO PARTICIPATE IN BECOMING
  • 00:28:51.010 --> 00:28:53.070
  • THAT BRIDGE THAT CONNECTS HEAVEN TO EARTH.
  • 00:28:53.090 --> 00:28:55.090
  • - AND CHRIST IS THAT BRIDGE, BUT WE CONTINUE
  • 00:28:55.110 --> 00:28:57.030
  • THE CONNECTION, AND THAT'S HOW THE LORD HAS
  • 00:28:57.050 --> 00:28:59.170
  • DECIDED TO EVANGELIZE AND PUSH HIS GOSPEL FORWARD
  • 00:28:59.190 --> 00:29:03.010
  • AND ADVANCE HIS KINGDOM IN THE EARTH IS
  • 00:29:03.030 --> 00:29:04.250
  • THROUGH THE CHURCH, IS THROUGH US.
  • 00:29:04.270 --> 00:29:06.280
  • - WELL I LOVE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING BECAUSE
  • 00:29:07.000 --> 00:29:08.110
  • GOD WANTS TO USE EVERYBODY LIKE THAT. YOU KNOW?
  • 00:29:08.130 --> 00:29:11.260
  • HE SAYS TO BE SALT AND LIGHT.
  • 00:29:11.280 --> 00:29:13.280
  • AND THAT MIXED WITH LOVE, GRACE AND TRUTH IS WHAT,
  • 00:29:14.000 --> 00:29:20.090
  • IS WHAT BRINGS HIS KINGDOM.
  • 00:29:20.110 --> 00:29:23.050
  • - YOU KNOW THE STORY, THE BOOK'S 28 CHAPTERS
  • 00:29:23.070 --> 00:29:26.100
  • AND THOSE CHAPTERS ARE ALL STORIES FROM FOLKS
  • 00:29:26.120 --> 00:29:29.110
  • JUST LIKE ALL OF US.
  • 00:29:29.130 --> 00:29:30.270
  • YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE THIS PREACHER SITTING ON STAGE
  • 00:29:30.290 --> 00:29:33.000
  • IN FRONT OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE.
  • 00:29:33.020 --> 00:29:34.270
  • ONE OF THE CHAPTERS I WROTE ABOUT MY WIFE AND
  • 00:29:34.290 --> 00:29:36.230
  • WHAT A GOOD LISTENER SHE IS.
  • 00:29:36.250 --> 00:29:38.250
  • WHEN WE GREW UP IN DALLAS TEXAS, WE HAD THIS OLD
  • 00:29:38.270 --> 00:29:41.160
  • CODGER GUY THAT USED TO COME TO OUR CHURCH.
  • 00:29:41.180 --> 00:29:44.000
  • HIS NAME WAS PAT, AND PAT WOULD WEAR HIS NEW YORK
  • 00:29:44.020 --> 00:29:46.240
  • YANKEES HAT AND JUST SIT THERE IN CHURCH WITH HIS
  • 00:29:46.260 --> 00:29:49.110
  • ARMS CROSSED. AND HE WAS THE MOST FAITHFUL MEMBER,
  • 00:29:49.130 --> 00:29:52.040
  • BUT HE JUST DIDN'T SMILE MUCH AND HE'D JUST WATCH PEOPLE.
  • 00:29:52.060 --> 00:29:54.100
  • HE WASN'T REALLY ENGAGED.
  • 00:29:54.120 --> 00:29:57.030
  • BUT HE WAS ALWAYS PART OF OUR CHURCH, THEN HE WOULD
  • 00:29:57.050 --> 00:29:59.250
  • COME OVER AND HAVE THANKSGIVING AT OUR
  • 00:29:59.270 --> 00:30:01.190
  • HOUSE, HE WOULD HAVE CHRISTMAS AT OUR HOUSE.
  • 00:30:01.210 --> 00:30:03.120
  • WELL, LATER ON, JASON AND I GO TO COLLEGE.
  • 00:30:03.140 --> 00:30:05.160
  • WE GET OUT OF COLLEGE, I GET MARRIED TO OF MY WIFE
  • 00:30:05.180 --> 00:30:07.180
  • LAURIE, AND LAURIE IS A PHENOMENAL WOMAN, AND ONE
  • 00:30:07.200 --> 00:30:10.150
  • OF HER GIFTS IS SHE JUST LISTENS VERY WELL.
  • 00:30:10.170 --> 00:30:13.190
  • SO OUR FIRST CHRISTMAS, WE'RE BACK HOME AND PAT'S
  • 00:30:13.210 --> 00:30:16.060
  • SITTING ON THE COUCH, AND MY WIFE IS SITTING THERE
  • 00:30:16.080 --> 00:30:18.270
  • AND PAT IS ACTUALLY TALKING.
  • 00:30:18.290 --> 00:30:21.090
  • I COULDN'T BELIEVE IT.
  • 00:30:21.110 --> 00:30:22.280
  • AND MY WIFE IS JUST SITTING THERE LIKE
  • 00:30:23.000 --> 00:30:24.140
  • LISTENING, AND SHE'S LIKE REALLY SOAKING IT IN.
  • 00:30:24.160 --> 00:30:26.240
  • WELL LATER ON THAT EVENING, PAT COMES OVER
  • 00:30:26.260 --> 00:30:29.020
  • TO ME AND SAYS HEY--
  • 00:30:29.040 --> 00:30:30.130
  • - CAN I TELL HER WHAT PAT SAID?
  • 00:30:30.150 --> 00:30:32.010
  • PAT GOES OVER TO DAVID AND GOES NOW DIDN'T YOUR
  • 00:30:32.030 --> 00:30:34.180
  • WIFE CHASE YOUR BROTHER AROUND COLLEGE THE WHOLE
  • 00:30:34.200 --> 00:30:37.150
  • FRESHMAN YEAR UNTIL SHE REALIZED SHE COULDN'T
  • 00:30:37.170 --> 00:30:39.260
  • HAVE HIM SO SHE HAD TO GO TO SECOND BEST.
  • 00:30:39.280 --> 00:30:42.160
  • - THAT'S RIGHT. THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT HE SAID.
  • 00:30:42.180 --> 00:30:44.170
  • NO. THAT'S NOT WHAT PAT SAID.
  • 00:30:44.190 --> 00:30:46.190
  • - IT WAS CLOSE.
  • 00:30:46.210 --> 00:30:48.030
  • - VERY CLOSE.
  • 00:30:48.050 --> 00:30:49.130
  • SO PAT COMES OVER TO ME AND SAYS HEY, YOU GOT A
  • 00:30:49.150 --> 00:30:50.290
  • MINUTE? I'M LIKE SURE, OKAY PAT.
  • 00:30:51.010 --> 00:30:53.090
  • I'VE KNOWN HIM FOR 18 YEARS OR HOWEVER LONG.
  • 00:30:53.110 --> 00:30:55.110
  • AND HE SAID WITH TEARS IN HIS EYES, HE SAID AND HIS
  • 00:30:55.130 --> 00:30:59.000
  • VOICE WAS ACTUALLY BREAKING UP, HE SAID YOU
  • 00:30:59.020 --> 00:31:00.290
  • KNOW, YOUR WIFE IS THE ONLY PERSON I HAVE EVER
  • 00:31:01.010 --> 00:31:04.210
  • MET THAT HAS MADE ME FEEL LIKE I'M THE ONLY PERSON
  • 00:31:04.230 --> 00:31:07.150
  • IN THE WORLD THAT MATTERED IN THAT MOMENT.
  • 00:31:07.170 --> 00:31:09.230
  • SHE BROUGHT HEAVEN TO EARTH BECAUSE SHE
  • 00:31:09.250 --> 00:31:12.060
  • LISTENED WELL. WE CAN ALL DO THAT.
  • 00:31:12.080 --> 00:31:15.060
  • - DAVID'S LIKE CAN YOU REPEAT THAT BECAUSE
  • 00:31:15.080 --> 00:31:16.240
  • I JUST GOT A TEXT.
  • 00:31:16.260 --> 00:31:18.190
  • - YEAH, WHATEVER.
  • 00:31:18.210 --> 00:31:20.020
  • BUT WE CAN ALL DO THAT, YOU KNOW?
  • 00:31:20.040 --> 00:31:21.210
  • TO BE BOLD AND BROKEN, TO BE THAT BRIDGE THAT GOD WANTS
  • 00:31:21.230 --> 00:31:24.070
  • US TO BE IS FOR EVERYBODY. JUST THE VERY SIMPLE WAYS.
  • 00:31:24.090 --> 00:31:28.070
  • HE DOESN'T WANT US TO TRY TO BE SOMEONE ELSE.
  • 00:31:28.090 --> 00:31:31.050
  • WE LIVE IN AN INFORMATION AGE, ESPECIALLY WITH
  • 00:31:31.070 --> 00:31:33.030
  • INSTAGRAM AND A LOT OF THE SOCIAL MEDIA, YOU CAN
  • 00:31:33.050 --> 00:31:35.120
  • COMPARE ALL THE TIME.
  • 00:31:35.140 --> 00:31:37.050
  • WELL I DON'T LOOK LIKE THAT PERSON.
  • 00:31:37.070 --> 00:31:38.280
  • JASON SAYS THAT ABOUT ME ALL THE TIME.
  • 00:31:39.000 --> 00:31:40.290
  • I CAN'T DO THIS, I CAN'T SPEAK LIKE THEM,
  • 00:31:41.010 --> 00:31:43.010
  • I DON'T HAVE THEIR MONEY. WHATEVER.
  • 00:31:43.030 --> 00:31:44.270
  • NO, GOD WANTS YOU TO BE YOU.
  • 00:31:44.290 --> 00:31:46.160
  • BECAUSE YOU'RE THE ONLY ONE THAT CAN BE THE
  • 00:31:46.180 --> 00:31:48.250
  • UNIQUE BRIDGE THAT GOD HAS FOR THOSE PEOPLE IN
  • 00:31:48.270 --> 00:31:51.150
  • YOUR SPHERE OF INFLUENCE.
  • 00:31:51.170 --> 00:31:53.160
  • SO WE JUST NEED TO BE IT WELL.
  • 00:31:53.180 --> 00:31:55.060
  • - HE DOESN'T WANT TO BE THE SECOND BEST OF ANYBODY.
  • 00:31:55.080 --> 00:31:57.030
  • - AMEN.
  • 00:31:57.050 --> 00:31:58.120
  • - BOLD AND BROKEN.
  • 00:31:58.140 --> 00:31:59.290
  • WE HAVE DAVID AND JASON.
  • 00:32:00.030 --> 00:32:02.120
  • THAT'S DAVID, JASON. DAVID, JASON.
  • 00:32:02.140 --> 00:32:05.030
  • - YOU NOTICE THE FIRST NAME ON THE COVER THERE?
  • 00:32:05.050 --> 00:32:07.030
  • - THAT'S ONLY BECAUSE IT'S ALPHABETICAL.
  • 00:32:07.050 --> 00:32:09.170
  • - OF COURSE NOT. LAURIE, YOU EVEN SAID THAT.
  • 00:32:09.190 --> 00:32:11.240
  • NO, IT'S NOT.
  • 00:32:11.260 --> 00:32:13.120
  • - SO INSIDE OF THIS BOOK, THERE'S SOMETHING
  • 00:32:13.140 --> 00:32:16.000
  • THAT IN CASE PEOPLE ARE WONDERING, WAIT A SECOND,
  • 00:32:16.020 --> 00:32:19.290
  • I KNOW THESE GUYS, I'VE SEEN THEM ON ALL THE NEWS
  • 00:32:20.010 --> 00:32:23.160
  • TALK SHOWS, I'VE SEEN THEM ALL OVER THE PLACE.
  • 00:32:23.180 --> 00:32:26.120
  • THERE WAS REALLY A MOMENT THAT WHEN YOU THOUGHT THE
  • 00:32:26.140 --> 00:32:33.140
  • PLATFORM GOD WAS GIVING YOU WAS A REALITY TV
  • 00:32:33.160 --> 00:32:37.060
  • SHOW, BUT WHAT GOD HAD REVEALED JUST A FEW DAYS
  • 00:32:37.080 --> 00:32:41.180
  • BEFORE YOU NEEDED TO KNOW WHAT THE REAL PLAN WAS,
  • 00:32:41.200 --> 00:32:44.160
  • YOU WERE GONNA HAVE MORE INFLUENCE LITERALLY IN
  • 00:32:44.180 --> 00:32:47.290
  • YOUR FIRING BY HOME AND GARDEN TV THAN YOU WOULD
  • 00:32:48.010 --> 00:32:51.150
  • HAVE HAD IF THE SHOW HAD BEEN ON THE AIR AND DONE WELL.
  • 00:32:51.170 --> 00:32:54.040
  • - THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:32:54.060 --> 00:32:55.060
  • - THERE WAS A HUGE THING.
  • 00:32:55.080 --> 00:32:56.190
  • SO GOD WAS GIVING YOU SOMETHING YOU DIDN'T EXPECT.
  • 00:32:56.210 --> 00:32:58.130
  • - THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:32:58.150 --> 00:32:59.240
  • - THAT WAS INFLUENCE IN A WAY THAT YOU WOULD HAVE
  • 00:32:59.260 --> 00:33:02.060
  • NEVER SEEN IT COMING.
  • 00:33:02.080 --> 00:33:03.240
  • AND I WANT TO GET INTO THAT.
  • 00:33:03.260 --> 00:33:05.190
  • I JUST WANT TO JUST SAY THAT IF YOU JUST TUNED
  • 00:33:05.210 --> 00:33:08.030
  • IN, WE ARE IN SOUTHWEST COLORADO.
  • 00:33:08.050 --> 00:33:13.090
  • WE'RE TALKING WITH DAVID AND JASON BENHAM.
  • 00:33:13.110 --> 00:33:15.250
  • A LITTLE WHILE AGO, WE WALKED DOWN SOME OF THE
  • 00:33:15.270 --> 00:33:19.040
  • BEAUTIFUL TRAILS AROUND HERE AND HAD A CHANCE TO
  • 00:33:19.060 --> 00:33:23.170
  • GET DEEPER INTO BOLD AND BROKEN. WATCH THIS.
  • 00:33:23.190 --> 00:33:26.270
  • [MUSIC]
  • 00:33:26.290 --> 00:33:30.240
  • - MATT: I CAN TESTIFY WHAT MY DAD IN 19-- IN THE EARLY
  • 00:33:30.260 --> 00:33:36.250
  • 80'S WHAT MY DAD THOUGHT WAS THE WORST DAY OF
  • 00:33:36.270 --> 00:33:39.250
  • TBN'S HISTORY WAS ACTUALLY THE BEST GIFT.
  • 00:33:39.270 --> 00:33:43.240
  • BUT IT TOOK A DECADE TO KNOW THAT THAT'S WHAT
  • 00:33:43.260 --> 00:33:48.070
  • ULTIMATELY HAPPENED, BECAUSE WHEN "MUST CARRY"
  • 00:33:48.090 --> 00:33:52.030
  • WHICH IS MEANT CABLE DIDN'T HAVE TO CARRY
  • 00:33:52.050 --> 00:33:54.190
  • BROADCAST AND WE HAD A BUNCH OF BROADCAST
  • 00:33:54.210 --> 00:33:57.140
  • CHANNELS, SO OUR INFLUENCE WAS DIMINISHED,
  • 00:33:57.160 --> 00:34:00.040
  • WE THOUGHT. AND MAYBE EVEN TEMPORARILY IT WAS.
  • 00:34:00.060 --> 00:34:04.080
  • MY DAD USED TO SAY I USED TO HAVE A WHOLE CHANNEL,
  • 00:34:04.100 --> 00:34:07.120
  • NOW I ONLY HAVE HALF A CHANNEL BECAUSE CABLE
  • 00:34:07.140 --> 00:34:09.260
  • COULD JUST DROP US INSTANTLY.
  • 00:34:09.280 --> 00:34:12.220
  • AND SO BUT THAT WORST DAY LITERALLY JUST A
  • 00:34:12.240 --> 00:34:16.120
  • GUT-WRENCHING DAY, GOD, WHAT ARE YOU DOING?
  • 00:34:16.140 --> 00:34:19.020
  • TV HAS LESS INFLUENCE NOW.
  • 00:34:19.040 --> 00:34:21.130
  • YOU CALLED US INTO TV. WHAT'S GOING ON?
  • 00:34:21.150 --> 00:34:24.110
  • AND THAT TECHNICALLY WAS THE GREATEST DAY IN TBN
  • 00:34:24.130 --> 00:34:29.020
  • HISTORY, BUT MY DAD DIDN'T KNOW IT FOR TEN YEARS.
  • 00:34:29.040 --> 00:34:31.280
  • IT'S AN INTERESTING THING.
  • 00:34:32.000 --> 00:34:33.250
  • - DIVINE SABOTAGE.
  • 00:34:33.270 --> 00:34:35.170
  • - SO MANY PEOPLE AND YOUR VIEWERS AND
  • 00:34:35.190 --> 00:34:38.210
  • EVERYBODY IN THIS CHRISTIAN WALK, WE HAVE
  • 00:34:38.230 --> 00:34:42.080
  • MOMENTS LIKE THAT WHERE IT'S LIKE THE WORST DAY,
  • 00:34:42.100 --> 00:34:45.040
  • AND THEN WHEN WE GET PAST IT, WE JUST HAVE TO IN
  • 00:34:45.060 --> 00:34:47.160
  • THAT MOMENT ABIDE IN CHRIST, WE HAVE TO STAY
  • 00:34:47.180 --> 00:34:49.240
  • CLOSE TO HIM AND HUG TIGHTLY TO HIM.
  • 00:34:49.260 --> 00:34:53.270
  • AND THEN WHEN WE LOOK BACK, WE HAVE THE EYES OF
  • 00:34:53.290 --> 00:34:56.280
  • THE SPIRIT TO SAY AH, I SEE WHAT YOU WERE DOING.
  • 00:34:57.000 --> 00:35:00.150
  • AND GOD'S PROMISE IS THAT WE'LL ALWAYS WORK OUT.
  • 00:35:00.170 --> 00:35:04.010
  • THAT'S HIS PROMISE TO US IN SCRIPTURE.
  • 00:35:04.030 --> 00:35:06.160
  • SO WE DON'T HAVE TO FEAR ANYTHING, BUT IT'S
  • 00:35:06.180 --> 00:35:08.010
  • AMAZING TO SEE HOW GOD WEAVES INTO THIS STORY.
  • 00:35:08.030 --> 00:35:10.100
  • - BUT I CAN TELL YOU THIS FROM OUR OWN
  • 00:35:10.120 --> 00:35:11.190
  • EXPERIENCE AND PROBABLY FROM YOURS AS WELL, IN
  • 00:35:11.210 --> 00:35:13.180
  • THAT MOMENT WHERE YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT GOD IS
  • 00:35:13.200 --> 00:35:15.090
  • DOING AND IT SEEMS LIKES HE'S GOING THE OPPOSITE
  • 00:35:15.110 --> 00:35:17.050
  • DIRECTION OF WHERE YOU KNOW THAT YOU'RE CALLED
  • 00:35:17.070 --> 00:35:18.200
  • TO GO, IN THAT MOMENT DON'T THINK ABOUT WHAT,
  • 00:35:18.220 --> 00:35:20.100
  • WHERE, WHEN OR WHY.
  • 00:35:20.120 --> 00:35:22.060
  • IF YOU THINK THAT, YOU'RE GONNA LOSE FAITH.
  • 00:35:22.080 --> 00:35:23.260
  • YOU THINK ABOUT WHO.
  • 00:35:23.280 --> 00:35:25.090
  • IN THE MOMENT, YOU FOCUS ON WHO.
  • 00:35:25.110 --> 00:35:26.230
  • I FOLLOW THE LORD.
  • 00:35:26.250 --> 00:35:28.090
  • JESUS WAS EVEN CALLED INTO EGYPT, AND HE'S
  • 00:35:28.110 --> 00:35:30.060
  • SUPPOSED TO BE GOING THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION
  • 00:35:30.080 --> 00:35:31.220
  • WHEN HE WAS A BOY. HE GOES THE OPPOSITE
  • 00:35:31.240 --> 00:35:33.200
  • DIRECTION BUT GOD KNEW WHAT HE WAS DOING.
  • 00:35:33.220 --> 00:35:35.220
  • THAT'S WHAT WE HAD TO LEARN TO DO WAS FOCUS ON
  • 00:35:35.240 --> 00:35:37.270
  • WHO, KEEP YOUR FOCUS ON GOD, AND WATCH WHAT HE
  • 00:35:37.290 --> 00:35:40.000
  • DOES, AND IT'S GONNA BE AN AWESOME STORY.
  • 00:35:40.020 --> 00:35:42.120
  • - SO BRING ME THAT CAMERA RIGHT THERE.
  • 00:35:42.140 --> 00:35:45.260
  • IS THIS STILL ROLLING?
  • 00:35:45.280 --> 00:35:47.190
  • I JUST WANT TO KIND OF DO, IT'S BLINKING SO.
  • 00:35:47.210 --> 00:35:50.200
  • - STILL ROLLING.
  • 00:35:50.220 --> 00:35:51.280
  • - LET'S GO THIS WAY.
  • 00:35:52.000 --> 00:35:54.030
  • SO LET'S JUST-- ARE YOU GUYS...
  • 00:35:54.050 --> 00:35:55.270
  • - ARE YOU KIDDING ME?
  • 00:35:55.290 --> 00:35:57.130
  • - ARE YOU SERIOUS?
  • 00:35:57.150 --> 00:35:59.020
  • - LET'S JUST SEE WHAT HAPPENS DOWN HERE.
  • 00:35:59.040 --> 00:36:02.040
  • - OH, YEAH.
  • 00:36:02.060 --> 00:36:03.180
  • - WATCH THAT BOULDER.
  • 00:36:03.200 --> 00:36:05.240
  • - IS THERE AN URGENT CARE NEARBY?
  • 00:36:05.260 --> 00:36:08.140
  • - TECHNICALLY THERE IS.
  • 00:36:08.160 --> 00:36:10.220
  • SO LET'S JUST KIND OF SEE WHAT'S GOING ON DOWN HERE.
  • 00:36:10.240 --> 00:36:13.030
  • - YOU KNOW WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF AN ASPEN GROVE.
  • 00:36:13.050 --> 00:36:15.040
  • - THESE FERNS ARE--
  • 00:36:15.060 --> 00:36:16.120
  • - YOU DON'T THINK THERE'S ANACONDAS
  • 00:36:16.140 --> 00:36:17.190
  • DOWN HERE, DO YOU?
  • 00:36:17.210 --> 00:36:18.290
  • - THE FERNS ARE GETTING TALLER.
  • 00:36:19.010 --> 00:36:20.110
  • - THANK GOD YOU'RE LEADING THE WAY.
  • 00:36:20.130 --> 00:36:22.090
  • - OKAY, SO WATCH THIS.
  • 00:36:22.110 --> 00:36:24.100
  • YOU GUYS ALL RIGHT?
  • 00:36:24.120 --> 00:36:25.140
  • - YEAH, WE'RE GREAT.
  • 00:36:25.160 --> 00:36:26.240
  • - THE QUESTION IS ARE YOU OKAY?
  • 00:36:26.260 --> 00:36:28.120
  • - LET ME GET FRAMED UP ON YOU.
  • 00:36:28.140 --> 00:36:30.040
  • STAY RIGHT THERE.
  • 00:36:30.060 --> 00:36:32.030
  • NOW THAT WE'VE HAD A LITTLE EXERCISE.
  • 00:36:32.050 --> 00:36:33.160
  • - YEAH.
  • 00:36:33.180 --> 00:36:34.180
  • - LOOKS GOOD.
  • 00:36:34.200 --> 00:36:35.240
  • - WE GOT TO CATCH OUR BREATH.
  • 00:36:35.260 --> 00:36:37.200
  • - SO NOW WE'RE KIND OF IN THE WEEDS.
  • 00:36:37.220 --> 00:36:40.190
  • - WE ARE.
  • 00:36:40.210 --> 00:36:42.110
  • - SO I THINK I'M GOING TO CIRCLE AROUND.
  • 00:36:42.130 --> 00:36:45.200
  • I'M JUST GOING TO SHOW EVERYBODY KIND
  • 00:36:45.220 --> 00:36:47.060
  • OF WHAT'S GOING ON HERE.
  • 00:36:47.080 --> 00:36:48.230
  • - DON'T FALL OVER THERE, MATT.
  • 00:36:48.250 --> 00:36:50.010
  • - HERE WE GO, SO DAN HERE.
  • 00:36:50.030 --> 00:36:52.070
  • WE GOT ASPEN GROWTH.
  • 00:36:52.090 --> 00:36:55.190
  • SO NOW THAT WE'RE KIND OF BROKEN OFF, AND WE'RE KIND
  • 00:36:55.210 --> 00:37:00.080
  • OF DOWN HERE LIKE THIS, JUST KIND OF THINK ABOUT THE
  • 00:37:00.100 --> 00:37:02.210
  • VIEWING AUDIENCE RIGHT NOW AND JUST, YOU KNOW, THERE
  • 00:37:02.230 --> 00:37:07.280
  • COULD BE WHATEVER THAT GUT WRENCHING FEEL THAT YOU FELT
  • 00:37:08.000 --> 00:37:12.060
  • WAY BACK IN THAT TIME WHEN YOU GUYS WERE SUFFERING
  • 00:37:12.080 --> 00:37:18.100
  • THROUGH YOUR HOME AND GARDEN THING.
  • 00:37:18.120 --> 00:37:20.090
  • LOOK, WE SEE BEAUTY FOR THE ASHES, BUT AT THAT TIME,
  • 00:37:20.110 --> 00:37:25.110
  • LET'S JUST TAKE THIS TO THE LORD FOR THE AUDIENCE.
  • 00:37:25.130 --> 00:37:31.090
  • - WELL, LORD, JESUS, THIS IS -- I CAN'T
  • 00:37:31.110 --> 00:37:33.240
  • EVEN CLOSE MY EYES, LORD.
  • 00:37:33.260 --> 00:37:35.160
  • THERE IS NO WAY, NOT IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS BEAUTIFUL
  • 00:37:35.180 --> 00:37:37.040
  • ASPEN GROVE, LORD.
  • 00:37:37.060 --> 00:37:39.270
  • AND THE MOUNTAINS IN THE BACKGROUND AND, HECK, EVEN
  • 00:37:39.290 --> 00:37:42.260
  • MATT HOLDING THIS CAMERA HERE, LORD.
  • 00:37:42.280 --> 00:37:45.030
  • WHAT AN INCREDIBLE BEAUTY OF YOUR CREATION.
  • 00:37:45.050 --> 00:37:48.010
  • GOD, I JUST THANK YOU THAT YOU ARE ON THE THRONE, AND I
  • 00:37:48.030 --> 00:37:51.050
  • THANK YOU, LORD JESUS, THAT YOU ARE SEATED AT THE RIGHT
  • 00:37:51.070 --> 00:37:53.270
  • HAND OF THE FATHER, AND YOU ARE SEATED THERE, LORD
  • 00:37:53.290 --> 00:37:56.160
  • JESUS, UNTIL YOUR ENEMIES ARE MADE A
  • 00:37:56.180 --> 00:37:58.140
  • FOOTSTOOL UNDER YOUR FEET.
  • 00:37:58.160 --> 00:38:00.130
  • AND WE KNOW THAT THAT APPLIES TO THE
  • 00:38:00.150 --> 00:38:02.170
  • PRINCIPALITIES, RULERS AND AUTHORITIES OF DARKNESS, AND
  • 00:38:02.190 --> 00:38:04.280
  • WE THANK YOU, LORD JESUS, THAT YOU ARE
  • 00:38:05.000 --> 00:38:06.270
  • GREATER THAN OUR PROBLEM.
  • 00:38:06.290 --> 00:38:09.030
  • YOU ARE GREATER THAN OUR FEARS.
  • 00:38:09.050 --> 00:38:11.030
  • GIVE US A MEASURE OF FAITH, LORD JESUS, THAT TRUMPS ALL
  • 00:38:11.050 --> 00:38:14.260
  • OF OUR FEARS IN THE NAME OF JESUS.
  • 00:38:14.280 --> 00:38:17.240
  • I THANK YOU FOR THE VIEWERS THAT ARE WATCHING THIS SHOW.
  • 00:38:17.260 --> 00:38:20.280
  • I THANK YOU, LORD JESUS, THAT THEY CAN EXPERIENCE
  • 00:38:21.000 --> 00:38:23.110
  • THIS WITH US, AND I THANK YOU THAT THE SAME GOD THAT
  • 00:38:23.130 --> 00:38:28.050
  • PUT ALL OF THIS INTO PLAY, THAT RULES OVER CREATION, IS
  • 00:38:28.070 --> 00:38:31.130
  • RULING OVER THEIR SITUATION RIGHT NOW.
  • 00:38:31.150 --> 00:38:34.130
  • GIVE THEM GRACE AND HELP THEM TO STAND IN THE GAP IN
  • 00:38:34.150 --> 00:38:38.230
  • JESUS' NAME, AMEN.
  • 00:38:38.250 --> 00:38:40.200
  • - AND GOD, I ASK THAT YOU WOULD GIVE THEM EYES TO SEE,
  • 00:38:40.220 --> 00:38:43.120
  • WISDOM ABOVE THE SUN.
  • 00:38:43.140 --> 00:38:46.070
  • AS SOLOMON WRITES ABOUT IT IN ECCLIASTES, MIGHTY GOD,
  • 00:38:46.090 --> 00:38:48.190
  • THAT YOU WOULD GIVE THEM WISDOM ABOVE THE SUN THAT
  • 00:38:48.210 --> 00:38:50.290
  • THEY WOULDN'T BE BENEATH THE SUN WHERE THEY'RE FOCUSING
  • 00:38:51.010 --> 00:38:53.000
  • ON WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE HERE AND NOW.
  • 00:38:53.020 --> 00:38:55.050
  • I PRAY THAT YOU WOULD GIVE THEM ETERNAL PERSPECTIVE
  • 00:38:55.070 --> 00:38:58.060
  • RIGHT NOW IN THEIR SITUATION.
  • 00:38:58.080 --> 00:38:59.290
  • I PRAY THAT SOME OF THEM RIGHT NOW, THEY NEED TO GET
  • 00:39:00.030 --> 00:39:02.080
  • ON THEIR KNEES IN THEIR LIVING ROOM RIGHT
  • 00:39:02.100 --> 00:39:04.040
  • NOW, RIGHT WHERE YOU ARE.
  • 00:39:04.060 --> 00:39:05.270
  • GO AHEAD, GET ON YOUR KNEES IN YOUR
  • 00:39:05.290 --> 00:39:07.120
  • LIVING ROOM RIGHT NOW.
  • 00:39:07.140 --> 00:39:09.020
  • RAISE YOUR HANDS TO HEAVEN AND ASK GOD TO GIVE YOU EYES
  • 00:39:09.040 --> 00:39:10.200
  • TO SEE THE ETERNAL PERSPECTIVE.
  • 00:39:10.220 --> 00:39:12.110
  • AND KNOW THAT THIS IS JUST A BLIP ON THE RADAR, WHAT
  • 00:39:12.130 --> 00:39:14.170
  • YOU'RE FACING RIGHT NOW.
  • 00:39:14.190 --> 00:39:16.040
  • GOD IS GOING TO DO SOMETHING AWESOME.
  • 00:39:16.060 --> 00:39:17.270
  • HE'S GOING MAKE A MESSAGE OUT OF YOUR MESS. HE CAN DO IT.
  • 00:39:17.290 --> 00:39:20.080
  • HE BRINGS FORGIVENESS AND HE BRINGS HEALING, AND HE IS
  • 00:39:20.100 --> 00:39:22.150
  • GOING TO BRING CLEANSING, AND IT'S GOING TO BE AWESOME.
  • 00:39:22.170 --> 00:39:24.150
  • SO MIGHTY GOD, WE GIVE THESE VIEWERS TO YOU.
  • 00:39:24.170 --> 00:39:27.020
  • THANK YOU, LORD, THAT YOU ARE THE CREATOR AND
  • 00:39:27.040 --> 00:39:31.120
  • SUSTAINER OF ALL THINGS AND THAT YOU MAKE ALL THINGS NEW.
  • 00:39:31.140 --> 00:39:34.190
  • YOU ARE AN AWESOME GOD. THIS IS GREAT.
  • 00:39:34.210 --> 00:39:36.280
  • - HALLELUJAH. LET'S -- - SELFIE IT?
  • 00:39:37.000 --> 00:39:40.090
  • - LET'S RACE UP TO THE ROAD. - NO.
  • 00:39:40.110 --> 00:39:43.050
  • - YOU WANT ME TO HOLD THE CAMERA?
  • 00:39:43.070 --> 00:39:44.280
  • - NO, I'LL HOLD IT. - YOU HOLD IT?
  • 00:39:45.000 --> 00:39:46.200
  • - IT'S ON, READY? GO.
  • 00:39:46.220 --> 00:39:48.250
  • [MUSIC]
  • 00:39:48.270 --> 00:39:50.290
  • - WHICH WAY ARE WE GOING?
  • 00:39:51.010 --> 00:39:52.260
  • YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY NO MATCH FOR US.
  • 00:39:52.280 --> 00:39:54.280
  • [LAUGHING]
  • 00:39:55.000 --> 00:39:59.280
  • - WHERE'S THE OLD MAN?
  • 00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:01.210
  • - HE'S BACK THERE ON THE OXYGEN TANK.
  • 00:40:01.230 --> 00:40:03.070
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:40:03.090 --> 00:40:06.020
  • DO YOU NEED THE WHEELCHAIR?
  • 00:40:06.040 --> 00:40:08.150
  • DO WE NEED A CRANE TO GET HIM UP HERE?
  • 00:40:08.170 --> 00:40:11.270
  • OH, YEAH. HERE'S A HAND.
  • 00:40:13.000 --> 00:40:16.120
  • - I DID IT WITH A CAMERA.
  • 00:40:16.140 --> 00:40:17.290
  • - YEAH YOU DID IT.
  • 00:40:18.010 --> 00:40:19.170
  • - I OFFERED TO TAKE THE CAMERA.
  • 00:40:19.190 --> 00:40:20.270
  • - OKAY, WAIT, THIS IS COLORADO, THOUGH.
  • 00:40:20.290 --> 00:40:22.150
  • - CAN YOU TALK?
  • 00:40:22.170 --> 00:40:23.240
  • - GIVE IT ALL TO GOD.
  • 00:40:23.260 --> 00:40:27.270
  • EVEN WHEN YOU FEEL LIKE YOU'RE OUT OF BREATH, AND
  • 00:40:27.290 --> 00:40:30.030
  • YOU'RE GOING TO DIE, OF A STROKE...
  • 00:40:30.050 --> 00:40:33.030
  • GIVE IT TO THE LORD.
  • 00:40:33.050 --> 00:40:34.180
  • - AND IN THE WORDS OF MATT CROUCH, MAY YOUR LIFE BE
  • 00:40:34.200 --> 00:40:37.050
  • LIKE TOILET PAPER, LONG AND USEFUL.
  • 00:40:37.070 --> 00:40:39.110
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:40:39.130 --> 00:40:41.210
  • [MUSIC]
  • 00:40:41.230 --> 00:40:46.180
  • - DAVID AND JASON BENHAM ARE WITH US.
  • 00:40:46.200 --> 00:40:49.210
  • BOLD AND BROKEN IS THE SUBJECT MATTER.
  • 00:40:49.230 --> 00:40:51.290
  • IT'S A BEAUTIFUL AFTERNOON HERE IN SOUTH COLORADO.
  • 00:40:52.010 --> 00:40:56.030
  • GUYS, JUST IN CASE SOMEBODY JUST TUNED IN, JUST A SLIGHT
  • 00:40:56.050 --> 00:41:00.180
  • BIT, A RECAP OF KIND OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AND A
  • 00:41:00.200 --> 00:41:03.180
  • FEW MORE EXAMPLES OF HOW THIS WORKS IN YOUR LIVES.
  • 00:41:03.200 --> 00:41:07.070
  • - WELL, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT STANDING IN THE GAP.
  • 00:41:07.090 --> 00:41:09.090
  • THIS IS SOMETHING EVERY CHRISTIAN CAN DO AND SHOULD
  • 00:41:09.110 --> 00:41:11.230
  • DO, AND GOD HAS GIVEN US THE ABILITY TO DO IT.
  • 00:41:11.250 --> 00:41:15.000
  • BUT IN ORDER TO STAND IN THE GAP, TO BE THAT BRIDGE
  • 00:41:15.020 --> 00:41:18.160
  • BETWEEN HEAVEN AND EARTH, IT'S GOING TO TAKE BOLDNESS
  • 00:41:18.180 --> 00:41:20.230
  • WITH BROKENNESS, BOLDNESS APART FROM BROKENNESS MAKES
  • 00:41:20.250 --> 00:41:23.200
  • A BULLY ON THE ONE SIDE, BUT BROKENNESS APART FROM
  • 00:41:23.220 --> 00:41:25.280
  • BOLDNESS MAKES A BYSTANDER ON THE OTHER.
  • 00:41:26.000 --> 00:41:28.080
  • AND YOU KNOW A LOT OF US IN THE CHURCH TODAY FIND
  • 00:41:28.100 --> 00:41:30.230
  • OURSELVES IN THIS BYSTANDER SIDE.
  • 00:41:30.250 --> 00:41:32.240
  • THIS IS WHERE WE WERE, BECAUSE I MEAN, YOU'RE
  • 00:41:32.260 --> 00:41:35.260
  • OPERATING OUT OF FEAR IN THAT MOMENT WHEN GOD PRICKS
  • 00:41:35.280 --> 00:41:38.090
  • YOUR HEART AND TELLS YOU TO DO SOMETHING AND SAY
  • 00:41:38.110 --> 00:41:39.220
  • SOMETHING TO SOMEBODY OR STAND UP FOR WHAT'S RIGHT,
  • 00:41:39.240 --> 00:41:41.090
  • AND YOU'RE LIKE, OH, NO, I DON'T WANT
  • 00:41:41.110 --> 00:41:42.280
  • TO LOOK LIKE AN IDIOT.
  • 00:41:43.000 --> 00:41:44.140
  • - WELL, LET'S TALK ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE SHOW
  • 00:41:44.160 --> 00:41:47.170
  • THAT Y'ALL WERE DOING.
  • 00:41:47.190 --> 00:41:49.060
  • SO THERE WAS A TIME THAT YOU GUYS HAD TO
  • 00:41:49.080 --> 00:41:50.240
  • MAKE THE DECISION.
  • 00:41:50.260 --> 00:41:52.260
  • SO YOU'RE LOSING YOUR CONTRACT, SOMETHING THAT YOU
  • 00:41:52.280 --> 00:41:56.040
  • BOTH, I BELIEVE, REALLY WANTED.
  • 00:41:56.060 --> 00:41:58.150
  • YOU REALLY WANTED TO DO THIS PROGRAM.
  • 00:41:58.170 --> 00:42:00.140
  • HOW WAS THAT FOR YOU?
  • 00:42:00.160 --> 00:42:03.060
  • WAS THAT JUST AN EASY STEP FOR YOU?
  • 00:42:03.080 --> 00:42:05.080
  • - WELL, ACTUALLY, ABOUT SIX MONTHS BEFORE WE GOT FIRED
  • 00:42:05.100 --> 00:42:08.120
  • IN FRONT OF A WATCHING WORLD -- AND YOU KNOW WHAT?
  • 00:42:08.140 --> 00:42:10.150
  • WHEN WE GOT FIRED, WE DID STAND BOLDLY, BUT YOU KNOW
  • 00:42:10.170 --> 00:42:12.070
  • WHAT GOD HAD TO FIRST DO?
  • 00:42:12.090 --> 00:42:13.270
  • HE HAD TO BREAK US OF OUR OWN SELF SUFFICIENCY.
  • 00:42:13.290 --> 00:42:16.090
  • HE HAD TO GET US TO A POINT OF BROKENNESS.
  • 00:42:16.110 --> 00:42:18.250
  • IT WAS ABOUT SIX MONTHS BEFORE WHEN HGTV CALLED US,
  • 00:42:18.270 --> 00:42:22.210
  • AND THEY ACTUALLY SAID, HEY, GUYS, EVERYBODY'S EXCITED
  • 00:42:22.230 --> 00:42:25.060
  • ABOUT YOUR SHOW, BUT OUR ATTORNEYS WANT TO ASK A FEW
  • 00:42:25.080 --> 00:42:28.260
  • QUESTIONS ABOUT SOME OF THE BELIEFS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE.
  • 00:42:28.280 --> 00:42:32.050
  • YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT MARRIAGE BETWEEN A MAN AND A WOMAN.
  • 00:42:32.070 --> 00:42:34.090
  • YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT PRO-LIFE.
  • 00:42:34.110 --> 00:42:35.180
  • THEY JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE
  • 00:42:35.200 --> 00:42:37.230
  • NOT ANTI-PEOPLE, YOU KNOW?
  • 00:42:37.250 --> 00:42:39.140
  • LIKE ANTI-CERTAIN FOLKS, AND WE'RE LIKE, NO,
  • 00:42:39.160 --> 00:42:41.060
  • WE'RE NOT ANTI-ANYTHING.
  • 00:42:41.080 --> 00:42:42.290
  • WE'RE PRO JESUS, WHICH MAKES US PRO BIBLE.
  • 00:42:43.010 --> 00:42:45.010
  • BUT I REMEMBER AFTER THAT PERIOD OF TIME, THERE WAS
  • 00:42:45.030 --> 00:42:48.060
  • ABOUT TWO WEEKS THAT WENT BY WHERE WE DIDN'T GET A PHONE
  • 00:42:48.080 --> 00:42:50.210
  • CALL, A TEXT, ANYTHING FROM HGTV OR OUR AGENTS OR
  • 00:42:50.230 --> 00:42:53.220
  • OUR PRODUCTION COMPANY.
  • 00:42:53.240 --> 00:42:55.190
  • AND I HONESTLY THOUGHT -- THIS IS LONG BEFORE WE
  • 00:42:55.210 --> 00:42:57.230
  • STARTED SHOOTING THE FILM, THE SHOW -- I THOUGHT WE
  • 00:42:57.250 --> 00:43:01.020
  • WERE HONESTLY GETTING DUMPED, AND I HAD NEVER BEEN
  • 00:43:01.040 --> 00:43:04.100
  • DUMPED BEFORE A DAY IN MY LIFE.
  • 00:43:04.120 --> 00:43:06.010
  • I HAD TO GO TO HIM FOR ADVICE.
  • 00:43:06.030 --> 00:43:07.150
  • I'M LIKE HOW DOES THIS WORK, MAN?
  • 00:43:07.170 --> 00:43:09.080
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:43:09.100 --> 00:43:10.250
  • HOW DOES THIS WORK?
  • 00:43:10.270 --> 00:43:12.140
  • - DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY TIMES I'VE HEARD THAT?
  • 00:43:12.160 --> 00:43:14.260
  • - BUT LISTEN, I WALKED DOWN TO HIS HOUSE, AND I SAID, I
  • 00:43:14.280 --> 00:43:16.180
  • HONESTLY THINK WE'RE GETTING DUMPED.
  • 00:43:16.200 --> 00:43:19.110
  • I THINK THAT THE ATTORNEYS DON'T LIKE THE
  • 00:43:19.130 --> 00:43:21.000
  • ANSWER THAT I GAVE.
  • 00:43:21.020 --> 00:43:22.220
  • AND I SAID, WE NEED TO SEND HGTV AN E-MAIL KIND OF
  • 00:43:22.240 --> 00:43:24.270
  • EXPLAINING OUR BELIEFS, BECAUSE WE WERE VOCAL ABOUT
  • 00:43:24.290 --> 00:43:27.050
  • MARRIAGE BETWEEN A MAN AND A WOMAN.
  • 00:43:27.070 --> 00:43:29.000
  • WE WERE VOCAL ABOUT LIFE BEGINNING AT CONCEPTION.
  • 00:43:29.020 --> 00:43:31.150
  • AND SO DAVID WROTE THIS E-MAIL, AND HE SENT IT TO
  • 00:43:31.170 --> 00:43:33.150
  • ME, AND I READ IT, AND I THOUGHT IT WAS
  • 00:43:33.170 --> 00:43:35.000
  • THE GREATEST E-MAIL EVER.
  • 00:43:35.020 --> 00:43:36.190
  • YOU WANT TO KNOW BASICALLY WHAT THIS E-MAIL SAID?
  • 00:43:36.210 --> 00:43:38.150
  • HGTV, THESE ARE OUR BELIEFS, AND WE'RE NEVER GOING TO
  • 00:43:38.170 --> 00:43:40.230
  • BACK OFF OF THEM.
  • 00:43:40.250 --> 00:43:42.130
  • HOWEVER, WHEN WE REPRESENT YOUR NETWORK IN PUBLIC ON
  • 00:43:42.150 --> 00:43:45.180
  • TALK SHOWS, BECAUSE THEY WERE GOING TO PUT US ON A
  • 00:43:45.200 --> 00:43:47.200
  • LOT OF TALK SHOWS, WE'RE GOING TO BE QUIET
  • 00:43:47.220 --> 00:43:49.070
  • ABOUT THOSE BELIEFS.
  • 00:43:49.090 --> 00:43:50.150
  • - UH-OH.
  • 00:43:50.170 --> 00:43:51.270
  • - HE WROTE IT, SO DON'T JUDGE ME, MATT.
  • 00:43:51.290 --> 00:43:53.070
  • I SEE THAT I HAVE JUDGED YOU.
  • 00:43:53.090 --> 00:43:55.000
  • HE WROTE IT, DON'T POINT YOUR FINGER AT ME.
  • 00:43:55.020 --> 00:43:56.180
  • - HE THOUGHT IT WAS THE BEST E-MAIL.
  • 00:43:56.200 --> 00:43:58.060
  • - I DID, I KNOW.
  • 00:43:58.080 --> 00:43:59.240
  • BUT HE WROTE IT, AND I APPROVED IT.
  • 00:43:59.260 --> 00:44:01.110
  • AND HERE'S THE SCARIEST PART, WE BOTH FELT
  • 00:44:01.130 --> 00:44:02.250
  • THE PEACE OF GOD ON IT.
  • 00:44:02.270 --> 00:44:04.060
  • BUT IT WASN'T THE PEACE OF GOD, IT WAS A FALSE PEACE
  • 00:44:04.080 --> 00:44:06.030
  • BECAUSE IN THAT MOMENT, WE WERE OPERATING OUT OF A
  • 00:44:06.050 --> 00:44:07.210
  • MAN-PLEASING SPIRIT AND NOT A GOD-PLEASING SPIRIT.
  • 00:44:07.230 --> 00:44:10.130
  • WE WERE OPERATING OUT OF THE FEAR OF MAN AND
  • 00:44:10.150 --> 00:44:12.020
  • NOT THE FEAR OF GOD.
  • 00:44:12.040 --> 00:44:13.210
  • WE PUT OUR FOCUS ON THAT PLATFORM WE DIDN'T WANT TO
  • 00:44:13.230 --> 00:44:16.040
  • LET GO OF INSTEAD OF THE GOD WHO PUT IT THERE
  • 00:44:16.060 --> 00:44:18.060
  • IN THE FIRST PLACE.
  • 00:44:18.080 --> 00:44:19.270
  • AND THE MINUTE THAT HAPPENS, YOU BEGIN TO OPERATE
  • 00:44:19.290 --> 00:44:21.230
  • STRATEGICALLY IN THE MIND AND NO LONGER
  • 00:44:21.250 --> 00:44:23.090
  • SPIRITUALLY IN THE HEART.
  • 00:44:23.110 --> 00:44:24.290
  • YOU'RE DEAF, BLIND, AND DUMB.
  • 00:44:25.010 --> 00:44:26.140
  • YOU HAVE AN IDOL IN YOUR LIFE, AND
  • 00:44:26.160 --> 00:44:28.020
  • YOU'LL OPERATE OUT OF FEAR.
  • 00:44:28.040 --> 00:44:29.190
  • AND SO WE DECIDED WE WERE GOING TO SEND IT TO A
  • 00:44:29.210 --> 00:44:31.090
  • SPIRITUAL MENTOR OF OURS BEFORE WE SENT IT TO HGTV.
  • 00:44:31.110 --> 00:44:33.160
  • AND WHEN WE DID, IN A MATTER OF ABOUT THREE MINUTES, HE
  • 00:44:33.180 --> 00:44:36.180
  • SENT A SCATHING E-MAIL BACK THAT SAID, HOW DARE YOU BOYS
  • 00:44:36.200 --> 00:44:39.160
  • WRITE AN E-MAIL LIKE THIS?
  • 00:44:39.180 --> 00:44:41.030
  • THIS ISN'T WHO YOU ARE.
  • 00:44:41.050 --> 00:44:42.200
  • HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT YOU WEREN'T SET UP FOR A TIME
  • 00:44:42.220 --> 00:44:44.050
  • JUST LIKE THIS?
  • 00:44:44.070 --> 00:44:45.240
  • YOU NEED TO DELETE THAT E-MAIL, AND YOU BOTH
  • 00:44:45.260 --> 00:44:47.090
  • NEED TO GET ON YOUR NEEDS AND REPENT.
  • 00:44:47.110 --> 00:44:48.140
  • - WOW.
  • 00:44:48.160 --> 00:44:49.260
  • - THAT'S NOT VERY CHRIST-LIKE.
  • 00:44:49.280 --> 00:44:51.060
  • - BUT YOU KNOW WHAT?
  • 00:44:51.080 --> 00:44:52.160
  • FOR HIM, THAT'S BOLDNESS WITH BROKENNESS FOR HIM TO
  • 00:44:52.180 --> 00:44:54.050
  • BE ABLE TO REBUKE US IN THAT MOMENT.
  • 00:44:54.070 --> 00:44:55.230
  • BUT WE GOT DOWN ON OUR KNEES AND WE REPENTED, AND WE
  • 00:44:55.250 --> 00:44:57.220
  • LEARNED THEN, AT THAT MOMENT, BOLDNESS APART FROM
  • 00:44:57.240 --> 00:45:00.180
  • BROKENNESS MAKE A BULLY.
  • 00:45:00.200 --> 00:45:02.040
  • WE DIDN'T KNOW THAT GOD WAS GOING TO GET US FIRED IN
  • 00:45:02.060 --> 00:45:04.170
  • FRONT OF A WATCHING WORLD WHERE WE'D HAVE TO STAND BOLD.
  • 00:45:04.190 --> 00:45:06.230
  • FIRST HE HAD TO BREAK US OF OUR SELF SUFFICIENCY.
  • 00:45:06.250 --> 00:45:09.080
  • A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE THERE NOW, AND WE WOULD SAY,
  • 00:45:09.100 --> 00:45:11.280
  • YOU KNOW WHAT? DON'T OPERATE OUT OF FEAR OF MAN.
  • 00:45:12.000 --> 00:45:13.250
  • OPERATE OUT OF A FEAR OF GOD.
  • 00:45:13.270 --> 00:45:15.200
  • BUT GET DOWN ON YOUR KNEES AND REPENT OF ANYTHING IN
  • 00:45:15.220 --> 00:45:17.180
  • YOUR LIFE THAT MAY BE HOLDING YOU BACK IN THAT
  • 00:45:17.200 --> 00:45:19.090
  • MOMENT, AND THEN JUST OPERATE IN A SPIRIT OF
  • 00:45:19.110 --> 00:45:22.110
  • FAITHFULNESS AND BOLDNESS, AND JUST WATCH WHAT GOD DOES.
  • 00:45:22.130 --> 00:45:24.210
  • - MOST PEOPLE DON'T HAVE TOO MUCH BOLDNESS.
  • 00:45:24.230 --> 00:45:29.290
  • MOST PEOPLE HAVE TOO MUCH BROKENNESS, USING YOUR
  • 00:45:30.010 --> 00:45:33.180
  • TERMS, BUT YOU KNOW, A BYSTANDER, LET'S SAY.
  • 00:45:33.200 --> 00:45:37.220
  • - YEAH.
  • 00:45:37.240 --> 00:45:39.160
  • - SO TALK TO THE AUDIENCE THAT NEEDS
  • 00:45:39.180 --> 00:45:43.240
  • ENCOURAGEMENT TO BE BOLD.
  • 00:45:43.260 --> 00:45:45.180
  • - AND I'LL SAY IT, I'M JUST GOING TO LOOK RIGHT AT THE
  • 00:45:45.200 --> 00:45:50.100
  • CAMERA, AND I'M GOING TO TALK TO THEM BECAUSE I'VE
  • 00:45:50.120 --> 00:45:52.070
  • HAD TO LEARN THIS MYSELF.
  • 00:45:52.090 --> 00:45:53.250
  • I KNOW I'VE HAD TO TEACH MY BROTHER JASON.
  • 00:45:53.270 --> 00:45:55.220
  • - YOU WANT TO TAKE YOUR GLASSES OFF AND DO THIS SO
  • 00:45:55.240 --> 00:45:58.030
  • IT'S NOT DISTRACTING ANYONE?
  • 00:45:58.050 --> 00:45:59.230
  • - THERE WE GO, GLASSES OFF. - DO IT.
  • 00:45:59.250 --> 00:46:01.170
  • - IN ACTS 4:29, PETER AND JOHN ARE PRAYING, AND
  • 00:46:01.190 --> 00:46:05.190
  • THEY'RE SURROUNDED BY AN ARROGANT MILITANT PAGANISM,
  • 00:46:05.210 --> 00:46:07.290
  • AND THEY PRAYED, AND THEY SAID THIS, AND NOW, LORD,
  • 00:46:08.010 --> 00:46:10.120
  • TAKE NOTE OF THEIR THREATS.
  • 00:46:10.140 --> 00:46:12.100
  • SO THERE WERE THREATS ALL AROUND.
  • 00:46:12.120 --> 00:46:13.240
  • DON'T YOU SPEAK ABOUT JESUS AND ALL OF THIS OTHER STUFF.
  • 00:46:13.260 --> 00:46:15.140
  • THEIR FAITH WAS NOT POPULAR WITH MODERN CULTURE.
  • 00:46:15.160 --> 00:46:18.060
  • THEY SAID, "NOW, LORD, TAKE NOTE OF THEIR THREATS, AND
  • 00:46:18.080 --> 00:46:20.020
  • GRANT THAT YOUR SERVANTS MAY SPEAK YOUR WORDS WITH GREAT
  • 00:46:20.040 --> 00:46:22.240
  • BOLDNESS." THEY PRAYED FOR IT, THEY ASKED FOR IT.
  • 00:46:22.260 --> 00:46:25.210
  • SO YOU CAN ASK FOR IT.
  • 00:46:25.230 --> 00:46:27.230
  • AND IT SAYS THAT THE HOLY SPIRIT FILLED THAT PLACE,
  • 00:46:27.250 --> 00:46:30.060
  • AND THEY WERE ALL FILLED WITH BOLDNESS.
  • 00:46:30.080 --> 00:46:32.100
  • THE LORD WILL GIVE YOU BOLDNESS.
  • 00:46:32.120 --> 00:46:34.030
  • JUST AS WE WERE WRITING THIS BOOK, I WAS GOING
  • 00:46:34.050 --> 00:46:35.230
  • INTO THE GROCERY STORE.
  • 00:46:35.250 --> 00:46:37.190
  • I HAD SEEN A YOUNG MAN A COUPLE OF TIMES THERE
  • 00:46:37.210 --> 00:46:39.140
  • BEFORE, HE WAS BAGGING MY GROCERIES, AND THE LORD
  • 00:46:39.160 --> 00:46:41.120
  • SIMPLY PRICKED MY HEART AND SAID, TELL
  • 00:46:41.140 --> 00:46:42.280
  • HIM JESUS LOVES HIM.
  • 00:46:43.000 --> 00:46:44.220
  • AND YOU KNOW, THAT SHOULD BE EASY, BUT I WAS
  • 00:46:44.240 --> 00:46:47.130
  • A LITTLE BIT NERVOUS.
  • 00:46:47.150 --> 00:46:49.080
  • BUT THEN I SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT?
  • 00:46:49.100 --> 00:46:50.290
  • HAS ANYBODY TOLD YOU JESUS LOVES YOU TODAY?
  • 00:46:51.010 --> 00:46:52.170
  • AND HE'S LIKE, NO.
  • 00:46:52.190 --> 00:46:54.010
  • - AND I SAID, JESUS LOVES YOU.
  • 00:46:54.030 --> 00:46:55.160
  • THAT'S IT. I LEAVE THE STORE.
  • 00:46:55.180 --> 00:46:57.090
  • TWO WEEKS LATER, THIS YOUNG KID SHOWS UP IN MY GYM.
  • 00:46:57.110 --> 00:47:00.170
  • NOW, I DIDN'T EVEN RECOGNIZE HIM.
  • 00:47:00.190 --> 00:47:02.080
  • I WASN'T PAYING ATTENTION.
  • 00:47:02.100 --> 00:47:04.040
  • HE COMES OVER TO ME, AND HE SAYS, HEY, CAN I TALK TO YOU
  • 00:47:04.060 --> 00:47:06.240
  • FOR JUST A SECOND AS SOON AS THIS OVER WITH?
  • 00:47:06.260 --> 00:47:08.160
  • AND SO I SAID, ABSOLUTELY.
  • 00:47:08.180 --> 00:47:11.030
  • AND SO I GOT DONE WITH MY WORK OUT, AND HE CAME OVER,
  • 00:47:11.050 --> 00:47:14.100
  • AND HE SAID, I REMEMBERED WHEN YOU SAID JESUS LOVED
  • 00:47:14.120 --> 00:47:17.030
  • ME, HE SAID, I HAD BEEN STRUGGLING WITH DEPRESSION,
  • 00:47:17.050 --> 00:47:19.220
  • AND I EVEN CONSIDERED SUICIDE, AND YOU CAME AND
  • 00:47:19.240 --> 00:47:22.000
  • SAID THAT TO ME.
  • 00:47:22.020 --> 00:47:23.180
  • NOW, IT WAS AMAZING.
  • 00:47:23.200 --> 00:47:25.070
  • AND NOW I'M MENTORING THIS YOUNG MAN.
  • 00:47:25.090 --> 00:47:26.250
  • I'VE GOT HIS CELL PHONE NUMBER.
  • 00:47:26.270 --> 00:47:28.130
  • I'VE HELPED HIM WITH HIS COLLEGE.
  • 00:47:28.150 --> 00:47:29.280
  • THIS IS JUST A GREAT OPPORTUNITY, AND GOD WANTS
  • 00:47:30.000 --> 00:47:32.000
  • TO TOUCH THE PEOPLE AROUND YOU, BUT HE'S GOING TO USE
  • 00:47:32.020 --> 00:47:36.150
  • YOU TO DO IT, AND YOU GOT TO PRAY FOR THAT BOLDNESS, AND
  • 00:47:36.170 --> 00:47:38.190
  • GOD WILL ANSWER THE PRAYER.
  • 00:47:38.210 --> 00:47:41.050
  • HE'S GOT NOTHING.
  • 00:47:41.070 --> 00:47:42.220
  • - JASON? - NOTHING?
  • 00:47:42.240 --> 00:47:44.050
  • - GLASSES OFF AND GO FOR IT, BUDDY.
  • 00:47:44.070 --> 00:47:46.110
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:47:46.130 --> 00:47:48.030
  • - WERE YOU LOOKING AT THE RIGHT CAMERA?
  • 00:47:48.050 --> 00:47:49.180
  • - I THINK I WAS, BUT I HAD PEOPLE PUTTING MY HAND UP,
  • 00:47:49.200 --> 00:47:51.070
  • SO I DON'T KNOW IF I WAS DOING THAT RIGHT OR WHAT.
  • 00:47:51.090 --> 00:47:53.190
  • - I WOULD SAY THIS, THAT YOUR GREATEST BLESSING IS
  • 00:47:53.210 --> 00:47:58.190
  • ONLY FOUND ON THE OTHER SIDE OF YOUR GREATEST FEAR.
  • 00:47:58.210 --> 00:48:01.250
  • WHEN YOU'RE WILLING TO LET GO OF THAT THING THAT YOU'RE
  • 00:48:01.270 --> 00:48:04.230
  • HOLDING ONTO, AND YOU'RE WILLING TO STEP IN AND STAND
  • 00:48:04.250 --> 00:48:08.120
  • IN THE GAP AND BE THAT BRIDGE, GOD PROMISES THAT IF
  • 00:48:08.140 --> 00:48:10.270
  • YOU'RE WILLING TO FACE YOUR FEARS, HE'LL TAKE
  • 00:48:10.290 --> 00:48:13.080
  • OVER THE FIGHT.
  • 00:48:13.100 --> 00:48:14.250
  • AND YOUR BOLDNESS WILL PRECEDE THE MIRACULOUS.
  • 00:48:14.270 --> 00:48:17.020
  • GOD WANTS TO DO A MIRACLE IN YOUR LIFE.
  • 00:48:17.040 --> 00:48:18.240
  • THERE ARE SOME OF YOU THAT ARE WATCHING THIS RIGHT NOW,
  • 00:48:18.260 --> 00:48:20.200
  • HE WANTS TO DO A MIRACLE IN YOUR LIFE, BUT IT'S GOING TO
  • 00:48:20.220 --> 00:48:22.210
  • REQUIRE BOLDNESS BECAUSE BOLDNESS ALWAYS
  • 00:48:22.230 --> 00:48:24.200
  • PRECEDE THE MIRACULOUS.
  • 00:48:24.220 --> 00:48:26.110
  • AND GOD WANTS TO DO A MIRACLE IN THIS CULTURE, BUT
  • 00:48:26.130 --> 00:48:28.060
  • IT'S GOING TO TAKE CHRISTIANS STANDING IN THE
  • 00:48:28.080 --> 00:48:30.150
  • GAP BOLDLY IN ORDER FOR GOD TO DO A MIRACLE.
  • 00:48:30.170 --> 00:48:32.230
  • I'M EXCITED ABOUT THAT.
  • 00:48:32.250 --> 00:48:35.010
  • I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE EXCITED ABOUT THAT.
  • 00:48:35.030 --> 00:48:36.190
  • MY GLASSES ARE, TOO, BECAUSE THEY JUST FELL ON THE GROUND.
  • 00:48:36.210 --> 00:48:38.110
  • BUT WE'RE PUMPED ABOUT WHAT GOD IS DOING.
  • 00:48:38.130 --> 00:48:40.100
  • THAT'S WHAT OUR BOOK IS ABOUT.
  • 00:48:40.120 --> 00:48:41.220
  • - LOVE IT.
  • 00:48:41.240 --> 00:48:43.070
  • - OKAY, BOLD AND BROKEN.
  • 00:48:43.090 --> 00:48:45.010
  • THE IDEA BEHIND THIS, IF I'VE BEEN LISTENING
  • 00:48:45.030 --> 00:48:48.280
  • CORRECTLY, IF I'M INTERPRETING CORRECTLY, WHEN
  • 00:48:49.000 --> 00:48:54.030
  • YOU SAY BECOMING THE BRIDGE BETWEEN HEAVEN AND EARTH,
  • 00:48:54.050 --> 00:48:56.060
  • THERE IS A FINE LINE, OR THAT YOU NEED TO DO BOTH.
  • 00:48:56.080 --> 00:49:00.200
  • YOU NEED TO BE BOLD ENOUGH TO HEAR THE HOLY SPIRIT.
  • 00:49:00.220 --> 00:49:04.180
  • YOU NEED TO BE BOLD ENOUGH TO LISTEN AND
  • 00:49:04.200 --> 00:49:07.240
  • THEN RESPOND TO IT.
  • 00:49:07.260 --> 00:49:11.070
  • BUT YOU HAVE TO DO IT IN A WAY THAT -- I LOVE THE STORY
  • 00:49:11.090 --> 00:49:16.030
  • EARLIER ABOUT THE AIRPLANE WHERE YOU COULD HAVE
  • 00:49:16.050 --> 00:49:20.030
  • IMMEDIATELY THOUGHT, I'VE GOT AN OPEN DOOR TO
  • 00:49:20.050 --> 00:49:23.220
  • BASICALLY START A FIGHT WITH THIS LADY BECAUSE YOU KNOW
  • 00:49:23.240 --> 00:49:28.230
  • THAT YOU'RE COMING FROM THE RIGHT SIDE OF THIS THING.
  • 00:49:28.250 --> 00:49:32.210
  • AND AT SOME POINT, YOU WOULD HAVE -- MOST PEOPLE WOULD
  • 00:49:32.230 --> 00:49:36.290
  • HAVE BEEN COMPLETELY THINKING THAT WAS AN OPEN
  • 00:49:37.010 --> 00:49:39.110
  • DOOR TO COME DRIVE A TRUCK THROUGH, A MACK TRUCK.
  • 00:49:39.130 --> 00:49:42.060
  • - ABOUT SIX MONTHS BEFORE THE WOMAN ON THE PLANE,
  • 00:49:42.080 --> 00:49:45.160
  • THERE WAS A YOUNG MAN WHO REACHED OUT TO US.
  • 00:49:45.180 --> 00:49:48.070
  • THIS WAS JUST AFTER WE HAD GOTTEN FIRED FROM HGTV,
  • 00:49:48.090 --> 00:49:50.110
  • AND HE LIVED IN CHICAGO, AND HE HAD SENT THIS E-MAIL TO
  • 00:49:50.130 --> 00:49:53.250
  • DAVID AND I AND SAID, GUYS, I'M A GAY MAN, AND I HATE
  • 00:49:53.270 --> 00:49:57.080
  • EVERYTHING YOU STAND FOR.
  • 00:49:57.100 --> 00:49:59.060
  • AND HE RIPPED INTO US LIKE WE HAD NEVER SEEN BEFORE.
  • 00:49:59.080 --> 00:50:01.020
  • BUT I REMEMBER DAVID -- - IT WAS NOT AN E-MAIL, IT WAS
  • 00:50:01.040 --> 00:50:02.260
  • A MESSAGE ON FACEBOOK.
  • 00:50:02.280 --> 00:50:04.130
  • - AND THEN HE LISTED OUT JUST A DIATRIBE OF INSULTS
  • 00:50:04.150 --> 00:50:06.070
  • TO DAVID AND I.
  • 00:50:06.090 --> 00:50:09.110
  • WHEN WE READ THIS, I REMEMBER THE FIRST THING
  • 00:50:09.130 --> 00:50:11.110
  • THAT CAME OVER US WAS LIKE, I WILL WALK HIM DOWN LIKE --
  • 00:50:11.130 --> 00:50:14.260
  • IT'S THAT BOLDNESS, IT REALLY IS.
  • 00:50:14.280 --> 00:50:16.090
  • BUT IN THAT MOMENT, GOD PRICKED OUR HEARTS FOR THIS
  • 00:50:16.110 --> 00:50:18.140
  • YOUNG MAN, AND WE REACHED BACK OUT TO HIM AND JUST
  • 00:50:18.160 --> 00:50:20.140
  • SAID, LOOK, WE CAN SEE YOU SPEAKING THROUGH YOUR PAIN.
  • 00:50:20.160 --> 00:50:23.000
  • IS THERE SOMETHING THAT YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT?
  • 00:50:23.020 --> 00:50:25.090
  • AND HE SENT THIS LONG E-MAIL BACK THAT TALKED ABOUT HOW
  • 00:50:25.110 --> 00:50:28.180
  • HE HAD BEEN ABUSED AS A CHILD AND JUST ALL
  • 00:50:28.200 --> 00:50:30.290
  • SORTS OF CRAZY THINGS.
  • 00:50:31.010 --> 00:50:32.240
  • - OUR HEARTS JUST BROKE.
  • 00:50:32.260 --> 00:50:34.180
  • - AND OUR HEARTS JUST MELTED FOR THIS GUY.
  • 00:50:34.200 --> 00:50:36.100
  • AND SO WE STARTED A LITTLE FRIENDSHIP WITH
  • 00:50:36.120 --> 00:50:37.290
  • HIM THROUGH FACEBOOK.
  • 00:50:38.010 --> 00:50:39.180
  • WE FOUND OUT HE'S A CHICAGO CUBS FAN.
  • 00:50:39.200 --> 00:50:41.020
  • WE SAID, WE'RE GOING TO BUY YOU FRONT ROW TICKETS TO
  • 00:50:41.040 --> 00:50:43.060
  • CHICAGO CUBS GAME. WE'RE GOING TO GET YOU TWO.
  • 00:50:43.080 --> 00:50:44.290
  • YOU PICK A FRIEND, AND WE'LL SEND YOU GUYS.
  • 00:50:45.010 --> 00:50:46.240
  • HE SENT A MESSAGE BACK THAT SAID, I DON'T HAVE ANY
  • 00:50:46.260 --> 00:50:49.010
  • FRIENDS, BUT I'D LOVE TO GO TO THE GAME.
  • 00:50:49.030 --> 00:50:52.040
  • SO WE GOT HIM A TICKET BY HIMSELF IN THE FRONT ROW.
  • 00:50:52.060 --> 00:50:54.210
  • A COUPLE OF DAYS LATER, HE SENDS US A MESSAGE WITH A
  • 00:50:54.230 --> 00:50:57.230
  • LINK TO THE "I CAN ONLY IMAGINE SONG" BY MERCY ME,
  • 00:50:57.250 --> 00:51:01.210
  • AND HE SAID, GUYS, I HAVE BEEN LISTENING TO THIS SONG
  • 00:51:01.230 --> 00:51:05.090
  • OVER AND OVER EVER SINCE YOU GUYS DID THIS FOR ME, AND
  • 00:51:05.110 --> 00:51:07.160
  • I'M GOING TO SURRENDER MY SEXUALITY.
  • 00:51:07.180 --> 00:51:10.000
  • I'M GOING TO SURRENDER MY LIFE TO JESUS CHRIST, AND
  • 00:51:10.020 --> 00:51:12.110
  • I'M SO THANKFUL FOR THE WAY THAT YOU GUYS HANDLED IT.
  • 00:51:12.130 --> 00:51:15.120
  • - AND IT DOESN'T ALWAYS WORK THAT WAY, BUT SOME
  • 00:51:15.140 --> 00:51:17.140
  • TIMES, THERE'S JUST A MOMENT. IT JUST TAKE A LITTLE LOVE.
  • 00:51:17.160 --> 00:51:20.060
  • WE DIDN'T TAKE STANDARDS AND THEY THEM OUT.
  • 00:51:20.080 --> 00:51:23.010
  • WE STILL KEPT THE STANDARD BUT JUST LOVED ON HIM, AND BOOM.
  • 00:51:23.030 --> 00:51:26.110
  • THE LORD WAS READY TO HARVEST.
  • 00:51:26.130 --> 00:51:29.000
  • - IT IS THE LOVE OF JESUS. - THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:51:29.020 --> 00:51:31.000
  • - AND HIS GRACE THAT CHANGES HEARTS.
  • 00:51:31.020 --> 00:51:33.220
  • I JUST THINK THAT'S SO GREAT BECAUSE WE SERVE SUCH A
  • 00:51:33.240 --> 00:51:35.250
  • GREAT AND MIGHTY GOD, AND IT'S SHARING HIS LOVE.
  • 00:51:35.270 --> 00:51:39.150
  • BOLD YET BROKEN, I LOVE THAT, I LOVE YOU GUYS.
  • 00:51:39.170 --> 00:51:43.180
  • - IT IS A SPECTACULAR EVENING HERE
  • 00:51:43.200 --> 00:51:46.000
  • IN SOUTHWEST COLORADO.
  • 00:51:46.020 --> 00:51:47.210
  • WE USED TO HAVE A STUDIO IN DENVER.
  • 00:51:47.230 --> 00:51:50.020
  • IT HAD FOUR WALLS AND WE HAD A PAINTED BACKGROUND.
  • 00:51:50.040 --> 00:51:52.250
  • WE HAVE NO WALLS, AND NO PAINTED BACKGROUND.
  • 00:51:52.270 --> 00:51:56.050
  • - THIS IS GOD'S BACKGROUND.
  • 00:51:56.070 --> 00:51:58.120
  • - THIS IS WHAT GOD THINKS IS PRETTY IS AN AMAZING THING.
  • 00:51:58.140 --> 00:52:02.170
  • SO AS WE'RE SAYING GOOD NIGHT RIGHT NOW, DAVID AND
  • 00:52:02.190 --> 00:52:08.170
  • JASON, JUST FOR THOUGH THAT NEED BOLDNESS, LET'S LIFT
  • 00:52:08.190 --> 00:52:14.240
  • THEM IN PRAYER; FOR THOSE THAT NEED BROKENNESS, THAT
  • 00:52:14.260 --> 00:52:17.150
  • NEED TO GET AN AMAZING KIND OF BLEND OF THIS GOING ON.
  • 00:52:17.170 --> 00:52:22.220
  • WE SEE WHERE YOU'RE HEADED WITH THIS.
  • 00:52:22.240 --> 00:52:24.080
  • JUST GO TO THE AUDIENCE AND PRAY FOR THEM.
  • 00:52:24.100 --> 00:52:26.220
  • A LOT OF TIMES, THEY HAVE -- - FAITH IN YOUR PRAYERS.
  • 00:52:26.240 --> 00:52:30.110
  • - FAITH IN YOUR PRAYERS MORE THAN THEIR OWN.
  • 00:52:30.130 --> 00:52:32.270
  • - YOU PRAY FOR BROKENNESS, AND I'LL FINISH WITH BOLDNESS.
  • 00:52:32.290 --> 00:52:34.150
  • - OKAY. MIGHTY GOD, WE LOVE YOU. WE WORSHIP YOU.
  • 00:52:34.170 --> 00:52:38.090
  • WE JUST PRAY RIGHT NOW FOR A SPIRIT OF BROKENNESS AMONG
  • 00:52:38.110 --> 00:52:41.110
  • BELIEVERS, ESPECIALLY THOSE THAT ARE WATCHING
  • 00:52:41.130 --> 00:52:43.290
  • THIS SHOW RIGHT NOW.
  • 00:52:44.010 --> 00:52:45.240
  • GOD, I PRAY THAT THEY WOULD SEE THEMSELVES IN LIGHT OF
  • 00:52:45.260 --> 00:52:48.070
  • WHO YOU ARE AND WHO THEY ARE IN COMPARISON TO YOU, AND
  • 00:52:48.090 --> 00:52:51.010
  • GOD, THAT THAT WOULD ALLOW THEM TO DROP TO THEIR KNEES
  • 00:52:51.030 --> 00:52:53.160
  • AND FOR THEM TO SEE THAT IN JUST THE WAY THAT YOU HAVE
  • 00:52:53.180 --> 00:52:56.200
  • FORGIVEN THEM, THAT THEY SHOULD DESIRE FOR
  • 00:52:56.220 --> 00:52:59.270
  • YOU TO FORGIVE OTHERS. AND LORD, WE JUST LOVE YOU.
  • 00:52:59.290 --> 00:53:02.110
  • WE'RE SO THANKFUL FOR THE FORGIVENESS THAT YOU HAVE
  • 00:53:02.130 --> 00:53:05.030
  • GIVEN TO US, AND I PRAY FOR A SPIRIT OF BROKENNESS UPON
  • 00:53:05.050 --> 00:53:07.140
  • THOSE WHO ARE WATCHING THIS SHOW RIGHT NOW.
  • 00:53:07.160 --> 00:53:10.150
  • AND LORD, ON THE FOUNDATION OF THAT BROKENNESS, THAT
  • 00:53:10.170 --> 00:53:13.150
  • THEY WOULD THEN STAND IN GREAT BOLDNESS.
  • 00:53:13.170 --> 00:53:16.050
  • - YES, LORD, AND I JUST THANK YOU, LORD THAT YOU
  • 00:53:16.070 --> 00:53:18.140
  • TAKE OUR MESS, AND YOU MAKE IT A MASTERPIECE.
  • 00:53:18.160 --> 00:53:21.040
  • LORD, AND OFTENTIMES YOU MAKE IT A MINISTRY AND A
  • 00:53:21.060 --> 00:53:23.190
  • MESSAGE TO THOSE AROUND US, AND I JUST PRAY FOR THAT,
  • 00:53:23.210 --> 00:53:26.040
  • FOR THE VIEWERS OF THIS SHOW IN JESUS' NAME.
  • 00:53:26.060 --> 00:53:28.270
  • AND I PRAY THAT THEY WOULD STAND ON YOUR PROMISES OF
  • 00:53:28.290 --> 00:53:32.230
  • FORGIVENESS AND HEALING AND REDEMPTION AND
  • 00:53:32.250 --> 00:53:36.020
  • SANCTIFICATION AND ALL THE AMAZING THINGS WE GET
  • 00:53:36.040 --> 00:53:39.110
  • BECAUSE OF WHAT YOU DID FOR US AND THAT WE WOULD WALK
  • 00:53:39.130 --> 00:53:42.160
  • FORWARD IN BOLDNESS IN THE NAME OF JESUS.
  • 00:53:42.180 --> 00:53:44.290
  • LORD, I PRAY THAT YOU WOULD GIVE US BOLDNESS LIKE THE
  • 00:53:45.010 --> 00:53:48.190
  • NEW TESTAMENT CHURCH IN THE FIRST CENTURY.
  • 00:53:48.210 --> 00:53:50.240
  • I PRAY, LORD JESUS, THAT WOULD YOU GIVE US THAT
  • 00:53:50.260 --> 00:53:53.070
  • SUPERNATURAL SPIRIT OF BOLDNESS.
  • 00:53:53.090 --> 00:53:55.000
  • HOLY SPIRIT FILL US NOW.
  • 00:53:55.020 --> 00:53:57.030
  • LORD, I PRAY AS WE ARE BOLD AND BROKEN THAT EACH ONE OF
  • 00:53:57.050 --> 00:54:01.010
  • US WOULD BE A BRIDGE THAT WOULD CONNECT HEAVEN TO
  • 00:54:01.030 --> 00:54:04.020
  • EARTH FOR THOSE AROUND US.
  • 00:54:04.040 --> 00:54:06.060
  • AND WE ASK THIS IN THE MIGHTY NAME OF JESUS, AMEN.
  • 00:54:06.080 --> 00:54:08.110
  • - DAVID AND JASON BENHAM, BOLD AND BROKEN IS THE BOOK.
  • 00:54:08.130 --> 00:54:15.020
  • YOU CAN GO TO AMAZON RIGHT NOW AND ORDER IT.
  • 00:54:15.040 --> 00:54:17.240
  • IT'S WHEREVER BOOKS ARE SOLD.
  • 00:54:17.260 --> 00:54:19.280
  • I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU, LORD,
  • 00:54:20.000 --> 00:54:23.140
  • FOR AN AMAZING AFTERNOON.
  • 00:54:23.160 --> 00:54:25.240
  • THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST PLEASANT, BEAUTIFUL
  • 00:54:25.260 --> 00:54:28.000
  • EVENINGS, AND TO SIT HERE IN A SETTING LIKE THIS AND TALK
  • 00:54:28.020 --> 00:54:32.160
  • ABOUT JESUS FOR AN HOUR.
  • 00:54:32.180 --> 00:54:34.140
  • - PHENOMENAL.
  • 00:54:34.160 --> 00:54:36.100
  • - WITH YOU GUYS, HAS BEEN AN AMAZING, AN AMAZING THING.
  • 00:54:36.120 --> 00:54:38.260
  • SO, FROM THE SOUTHWESTERN ROCKIES -- WE TRADED IN FOUR
  • 00:54:38.280 --> 00:54:43.280
  • WALLS FOR NO WALLS, AND GUYS, THANKS FOR BEING WITH US.
  • 00:54:44.000 --> 00:54:47.240
  • - LOVE Y'ALL.
  • 00:54:47.260 --> 00:54:49.200
  • - GOD BLESS YOU, GUYS. LOVE WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
  • 00:54:49.220 --> 00:54:51.170
  • BOLD AND BROKEN, BENHAM BROTHERS, WE'LL SEE
  • 00:54:51.190 --> 00:54:53.050
  • YOU NEXT TIME, BYE BYE.
  • 00:54:53.070 --> 00:54:55.020
  • [MUSIC]
  • 00:54:55.040 --> 00:55:02.040
  • [MUSIC]
  • 00:55:02.040 --> 00:55:09.210