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Matt & Laurie Crouch host Ray Comfort.

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Praise | August 18, 2017

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  • - male: Yeah, religion is just
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  • absolutely uncalled for.
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  • - Richard: Believing in God
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  • makes no sense.
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  • It's--to me,
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  • it's the dumbest thing.
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  • - Ray Comfort: Are you
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  • an atheist?
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  • - female: I am.
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  • - Ray: So you're an atheist?
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  • - David: Yes.
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  • - Ray: You don't believe
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  • in a creator of all things?
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  • - Ray: You're not just a blob
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  • of nothing that came from
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  • explosion that created order,
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  • which is against nature.
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  • That means that you've
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  • got purpose and meaning
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  • in the universe.
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  • - female announcer: Do you
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  • believe?
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  • The truth unveiled,
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  • The truth unveiled,
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  • - Matt Crouch: We welcome you
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  • to this broadcast today.
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  • Wherever you're watching around
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  • the world, we welcome you.
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  • "Atheist Delusion: Atheism
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  • Destroyed with One
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  • Scientific Question."
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  • Our guest, Ray Comfort.
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  • Okay, what do we need to know
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  • about what we're gonna watch
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  • today on the "Praise" program?
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  • - Ray: Well, it's something
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  • that involves everybody because
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  • there's a revival in atheism.
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  • acceptable to this generation
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  • because it gets rid of moral
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  • responsibility.
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  • If you can get rid of God,
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  • you get rid of right and wrong.
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  • And if you get rid of right and
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  • okay, pornography's okay,
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  • adultery's okay, blasphemy's
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  • okay, homosexuality's okay.
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  • Anything goes if there's no God.
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  • And to a young guy whose
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  • hormones are kicking in, that is
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  • real exciting.
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  • And so there's this seduction
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  • that comes to atheism for this
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  • generation.
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  • You get men like
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  • Richard Dawkins, Professor
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  • Richard Dawkins, the pope of
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  • atheism, who is the pied piper
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  • of this generation, he's playing
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  • Men love darkness rather
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  • than light.
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  • "Neither will they come to the
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  • light, lest their deeds be
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  • exposed," so this involves
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  • everyone because if you've got
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  • a kid in a Christian home who
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  • suddenly says, "Mom, Dad,
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  • I don't believe in God.
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  • There's scientific evidence to
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  • say God doesn't exist.
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  • Richard Dawkins, the professor
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  • from Oxford University, tells me
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  • so," what's Mom gonna say?
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  • You know,
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  • "Come to church, honey."
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  • He says, "I don't want to.
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  • Noah's Ark isn't exciting--isn't
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  • as good a shape as the girls
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  • I see," you know, "at school."
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  • And so there is this
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  • tremendous pull.
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  • Atheism is the prodigal son
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  • getting rid of the father.
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  • Remember, the prodigal son says,
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  • "Dad, give me my money,"
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  • and he went to, Jesus said,
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  • "a far country."
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  • Why?
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  • 'Cause he wanted to spend his
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  • money on prostitutes.
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  • The Bible says that.
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  • And he didn't want his dad
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  • looking to see what he was doing
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  • 'cause his dad would frown on
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  • him.
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  • getting rid of the father once
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  • and for all, so he can follow
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  • his hormones.
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  • So we need to reach out to this
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  • generation because they're gonna
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  • die in their sins and there's a
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  • very real hell and we don't want
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  • them to do that 'cause we care
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  • about them.
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  • - Matt: You know what?
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  • First of all, I wanna say thank
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  • you to Ray Comfort.
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  • This production is done by his
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  • production company, Living
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  • Waters, a Living Waters/
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  • Ray Comfort film.
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  • And he has brought this to the
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  • viewers of TBN free of charge.es
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  • that there's an 800-number right
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  • now available and, Grandma, if
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  • talking about this.
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  • In this particular video that
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  • you've created, in this
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  • documentary, what's the genesis
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  • of it?
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  • Where did you start?
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  • What was square one of this
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  • project, "Atheist Delusion"?
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  • - Ray: It's actually a mistake.
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  • I went to a local university
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  • because I'd written a book
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  • called "Made in Heaven," with an
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  • aerospace engineer, and it's
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  • full of pictures of God's
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  • creation that have been ripped
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  • off by the world and they
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  • haven't given him attribution,
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  • like Velcro.
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  • That was copied from nature,
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  • and a whole stack of things.
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  • So I was gonna make a little
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  • video for my publishers and I
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  • met a guy named Adam who was
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  • And so I sat him down, put the
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  • book on his lap, and I says,
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  • "You're an atheist?"
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  • He says, "Yeah."
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  • I said, "Do you believe
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  • that--do you think this book
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  • could have happened by chance?
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  • Flick through it.
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  • Look at the color pictures.
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  • Could ink have fallen from
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  • nowhere and formed itself into
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  • these pictures of hummingbirds
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  • and sunsets?
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  • Could black ink fall from
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  • nowhere and form itself in
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  • coherent sentences and then more
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  • fall down at the numbers
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  • in sequential order?
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  • Could it form itself into
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  • a spine and then design
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  • its own cover?
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  • Could a book make itself?"
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  • And Adam says, "Absolutely not."
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  • I said, "What's DNA?"
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  • And he said,
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  • "Deoxyribonucleic acid."
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  • And I said, "Do you know
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  • scientists call it the book of
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  • life because it's full of
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  • information, coherent
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  • information, telling your cells
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  • how to make your eyes, your
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  • skin, your blood, your
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  • personality, your hair.
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  • Everything's in your DNA from
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  • the moment you're conceived."
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  • I said, "Adam, what would you
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  • think of the mentality of
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  • someone who believed a physical
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  • book can make itself from
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  • nothing?"
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  • He said, "They'd be an idiot."
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  • I said, "What do you think of
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  • the mentality of someone who
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  • believes DNA created itself?"
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  • An atheist, and he went,
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  • "[gasping]" His mouth went
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  • like a road tunnel.
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  • And that gave me an inroad--it
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  • gave me an inroad to talk about
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  • the things of God because now no
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  • longer could he just say, "My
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  • conscience is something that
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  • happened because of explosion."
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  • I was able to appeal to his
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  • conscience.
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  • - Matt: And that experience
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  • turned into this production.
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  • - Ray: Yeah, I came back,
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  • thinking, "It worked."
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  • I was surprised, it worked.
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  • Here's scientific evidence for
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  • a college student and I began to
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  • find other atheists who aren't
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  • as common as what you think.
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  • They're as rare as hen's teeth.
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  • - Matt: And, by the way, Ray
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  • Comfort is kind of a genius guy.
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  • And the only thing I can do
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  • better than he can is say
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  • the word deoxyribonucleic acid.
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  • That's the only thing
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  • I can do better than him.
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  • If you wanna get to know Ray
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  • - female: There is no God so
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  • there is no Judgment Day so when
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  • I die, you know what happens?
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  • It's over.
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  • - Ray: Are you a good person?
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  • Are you going to heaven
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  • when you die?
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  • - male: I don't think there
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  • is a heaven.
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  • - announcer: Modern-day
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  • evangelist Ray Comfort
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  • takes Jesus to the streets.
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  • - Ray: There are two things you
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  • have to do to be saved:
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  • you've got to repent and put
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  • your faith in Jesus.
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  • - announcer: Fearlessly
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  • witnessing to intellectuals,
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  • atheists, Muslims, Jews, cults,
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  • anyone who will listen.
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  • - Ray: So you're gonna get
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  • right with God, like, today?
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  • Don't feel pressured by me.
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  • - female: Yes.
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  • - Ray: When do you think
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  • you'll do that?
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  • - female: Right now.
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  • - announcer: As an
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  • award-winning film producer, Ray
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  • addresses controversial issues
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  • like abortion, evolution,
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  • homosexuality, atheism,
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  • and suicide.
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  • He's also co-host with
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  • Kirk Cameron, the award-winning
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  • television program,
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  • "The Way of the Master."
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  • Ray is founder and CEO of Living
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  • Waters Publications in
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  • California, and the best-selling
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  • author of more than 80 books.
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  • Ray Comfort.
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  • - Matt: Ray, thank you for what
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  • you're doing in all of the
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  • productions that you're doing.
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  • This one, "The Atheist
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  • Delusion," is available by
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  • calling that 800-number.
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  • Grandma, this is the one to get.
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  • You know who it needs to go to.
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  • Get it.
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  • 800-number is available for you.
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  • Ray has brought this production.
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  • We get to display it to
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  • the world free of charge.ank yo.
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  • Thank you to the partners that
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  • support your ministry.
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  • - Laurie Crouch: Is this, like,
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  • a how-to?
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  • How to answer questions, or is
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  • it watching you answer
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  • the--well, it's kind of all
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  • the same.
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  • - Ray: It's kind of both but
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  • one thing I really object to
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  • is I'm not a genius.
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  • I'm just a very ordinary person.
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  • I consider myself to be
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  • a biblical, normal biblical
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  • Christian.
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  • But to say I'm even gifted is
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  • like saying to a marathon runner
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  • who's just broken the tape,
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  • "Boy, you're a gifted runner."
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  • He'd turn round and say, "What
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  • are you talking about?
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  • You think I got these muscles--I
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  • I haven't eaten chocolate for
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  • 4 years.
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  • What, are you kidding?
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  • This has been self-denial, hard
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  • work, sweat, and pain.
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  • I fall, I bruise myself."
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  • And it's exactly the same
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  • with what I've got.
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  • You see me break the tape,
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  • "Oh, well, he's gifted."
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  • No, I'm not.
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  • These muscles came through pain
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  • and suffering, from self-denial,
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  • of opening my mouth and putting
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  • my foot in it.
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  • Can't even say
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  • deoxyribonucleic acid properly.
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  • Ha, ha, ha.
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  • So I'm really not a genius.
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  • And that's really good because
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  • that means anybody can do this.
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  • It's like swimming.
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  • If you wanna learn to swim, you
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  • You jump in.
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  • And something will kick in.
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  • It's the same with evangelism.
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  • Most of us are fearful.
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  • I get fearful when it comes to
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  • sharing my faith, all the time.
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  • I have to battle that fear.
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  • But if I said to you, "Could I
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  • encourage you in any way to dive
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  • it's that cold?"
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  • you'd say, "Never."
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  • I say, "A 4-year-old kid's just
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  • Does that change things?"
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  • You wouldn't hesitate.
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  • You'd jump into that pond; you
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  • wouldn't care how cold it is.
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  • You'd pull that kid out.
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  • And the waters of evangelism
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  • are icy.
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  • They hurt our flesh.
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  • We hate it.
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  • But love swallows our fears.
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  • Love takes over.
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  • And that's my motivation.
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  • The love of Christ constrains
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  • me.
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  • And every Christian should feel
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  • like that because the analogy
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  • isn't a pool of water that we
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  • pull people out of.
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  • "Others save with fear, pulling
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  • them from the fire;
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  • hating even the garment
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  • spotted by the flesh."
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  • If hell didn't exist,
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  • my ministry wouldn't exist.
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  • I'd be some retired surfer
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  • at the top of Australia.
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  • I would have moved from
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  • New Zealand and I'd just
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  • be sun-bleached and lying
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  • on a beach.
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  • But I can't do that because
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  • people are going to hell.
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  • You know, Jesus spoke of hell
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  • so often.
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  • The second I got saved,
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  • I had a concern for my family,
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  • then unsaved people.
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  • I got a printing press,
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  • put it in my home.
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  • I got a billboard, put it on the
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  • outside with Scripture on it.
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  • I purchased a 34-seater bus and
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  • put 12-inch high lettering, "The
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  • gift of God is eternal life."
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  • Did the same with my car,
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  • professional lettering.
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  • I got a soapbox, put it
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  • in the heart of our city
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  • and began open-air preaching.
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  • Did that every day for 12 years.
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  • Front window of my business,
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  • I put, "John chapter 3:1 to 16,"
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  • in 3-inch high lettering.
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  • Anyone could have been
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  • considered a religious fanatic
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  • in those days, it was me.
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  • Today, I'm much worse, because
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  • I care about the lost.
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  • People are going to hell.
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  • Every minute, 100 people die.
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  • Every hour, 6.000.
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  • Every day, 150.000.
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  • Every year, 54 million are
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  • swallowed by this horror called
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  • death and we have got the
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  • gospel, the gift of everlasting
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  • life through trusting
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  • in Christ, so.
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  • - Matt: Beautiful.
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  • Today, we are talking about
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  • "The Atheist Delusion."
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  • This is a very
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  • amazing production.
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  • It's available by dialing
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  • And our guest, Ray Comfort,
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  • has brought it to you, the
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  • viewers of TBN free of charge.a.
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  • He's a genius, by the way.
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  • This is now
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  • - male: Religion is just
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  • absolutely uncalled for.
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  • We are just mere things floating
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  • We are just mere things floating
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  • figuratively,
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  • but literally,
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  • - Raven-Symoné: You don't have
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  • to go to church on Christmas and
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  • it is about being good.
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  • And that's what all religions
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  • - Ray: Are you an atheist?
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  • - female: Yeah.
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  • - Ray: Trying to kill yourself?
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  • - Richard: Yeah, I'd like to.
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  • - Ray: So you're an atheist?
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  • - David: Yes.
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  • - Amanda Peet: I need to
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  • know what to believe in.
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  • - Stephen Colbert: Like,
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  • what happens when you die?
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  • - Amanda: Yes, I don't wanna
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  • - Ray: David, are you an
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  • atheist?
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  • - David: Yes.
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  • - Ray: When did you become an
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  • atheist?
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  • - David: Around age 12.
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  • - Richard: Believing in God
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  • makes no sense.
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  • It's--to me, it's
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  • It's for people that can't
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  • accept the fact that they're
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  • gonna die and rot in the ground
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  • like I'm gonna do, and it gives
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  • them some relief from that
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  • thought because it's not the
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  • nicest thought in the world.
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  • - Ray: Are you an atheist?
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  • - Andrew: Yes.
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  • - male: Yes, I am.
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  • - male: Yes.
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  • - male: Yes.
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  • - male: Yes, sir.
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  • - Ray: Are you an atheist?
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  • - male: I am.
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  • - male: Yeah, I'm an atheist.
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  • - female: Yes, I am.
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  • - Ray: Alex, do you believe in
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  • God's existence?
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  • - Alex: No, I do not.
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  • - Ray: How long have you been
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  • an atheist?
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  • - female: I would say, probably
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  • since I was about 15 years old.
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  • - Ray: So you don't believe
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  • in the existence of God?
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  • - male: No, not really.
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  • - Ray: What happened when you
  • 00:13:02.090 --> 00:13:03.010
  • were 15?
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  • - female: I started questioning
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  • things and I really just started
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  • to think about the logic
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  • behind everything.
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  • - male: For the most part,
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  • we are not shown the evidence
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  • for there being a higher power.
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  • If we were, I almost guarantee
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  • that almost every atheist would
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  • immediately agree to there being
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  • a higher power.
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  • - Ray: Are you atheists?
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  • - male: Yes.
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  • - male: Yes.
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  • - Ray: Why?
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  • - male: Well, I just haven't
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  • seen enough evidence, I suppose.
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  • - male: I grew up in a
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  • Christian family and just, over
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  • the few years during high school
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  • and as I grew up, I just
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  • realized that there wasn't a lot
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  • of evidence to support that
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  • belief system.
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  • - Ray: Are you open to
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  • evidence?
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  • - female: I think I am open to
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  • evidence.
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  • It just would have to be
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  • extraordinarily compelling.
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  • Like, out-of-this-world
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  • compelling.
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  • - Ray: If you could be given
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  • evidence, reasonable evidence,
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  • would it--would you listen to
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  • it?
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  • - male: Yeah, I would.
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  • - Ray: You're someone who has
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  • no faith or no belief in a
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  • higher power or a creator.
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  • But if you were shown evidence,
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  • you would change your mind
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  • because you're open?
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  • - male: Absolutely.
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  • - Ray: Flick through the pages
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  • of the book I just put on your
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  • lap.
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  • Look at the color pictures.
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  • Look at the color pictures.
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  • [m
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  • [mus
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  • [music
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  • - Ray: Do you believe that book
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  • could happen by accident?
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  • That nothing produced the color
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  • pictures in the book?
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  • That red, orange, yellow, green,
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  • blue, indigo, violet ink fell
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  • from the sky and formed itself
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  • into those beautiful pictures?
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  • And then black ink fell from the
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  • sky or from nowhere and formed
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  • itself into coherent words and
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  • sentences, capitals and periods
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  • and commas, making sense?
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  • Page numbers fell from the sky,
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  • all in order, and then it bound
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  • itself and formed itself into a
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  • cover, without work, and there
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  • we have a book?
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  • - Ray: You know, every single
  • 00:14:43.090 --> 00:14:44.160
  • person believes in the existence
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  • of God.
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  • The book of Romans says: "For
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  • the invisible things of whom
  • 00:14:47.250 --> 00:14:49.060
  • from the creation of the world
  • 00:14:49.060 --> 00:14:50.080
  • are clearly seen, being
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  • understood by the things that
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  • are made, even his eternal power
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  • and Godhead; so that
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  • they're without excuse."
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  • operate on people, know exactly
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  • where the organ's gonna be.
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  • They don't cut open down here
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  • and find a heart.
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  • They cut it open here and
  • 00:15:05.270 --> 00:15:06.270
  • there's always a heart because
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  • God has made us physically
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  • all the same.
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  • We've got a blueprint for
  • 00:15:10.140 --> 00:15:11.220
  • creating human beings.
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  • Exactly the same applies to
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  • the soul.
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  • God has created us the same.
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  • Every single person
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  • has a will to live.
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  • Something in you says,
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  • "I don't wanna die."
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  • Something in you knows
  • 00:15:22.090 --> 00:15:23.070
  • right from wrong because
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  • God gave you a conscience.
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  • The word "conscience" means
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  • with knowledge.
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  • "Con" is with, "science" is
  • 00:15:28.250 --> 00:15:31.140
  • knowledge.
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  • So that means every time we sin,
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  • we do it with knowledge that
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  • it's wrong.
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  • Isn't it true when you lie,
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  • there's a little voice, an inner
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  • voice, say, an impartial judge
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  • on the courtroom of the mind
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  • that says, "Ah, that was wrong."
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  • When you steal, the conscience
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  • accuses.
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  • This judge is impartial and it
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  • will accuse you.
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  • Listen to your conscience.
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  • It's like a smoke detector.
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  • If you take the batteries out of
  • 00:15:55.030 --> 00:15:56.130
  • your smoke detector 'cause you
  • 00:15:56.130 --> 00:15:57.050
  • don't want to be alarmed, that's
  • 00:15:57.050 --> 00:15:58.200
  • very, very foolish because
  • 00:15:58.200 --> 00:16:00.030
  • that's there for your
  • 00:16:00.030 --> 00:16:00.250
  • protection, to say,
  • 00:16:00.250 --> 00:16:01.200
  • "Hey, there's smoke here.
  • 00:16:01.200 --> 00:16:02.210
  • You must be warned."
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  • Conscience is like that.
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  • And the reason conscience is
  • 00:16:05.140 --> 00:16:07.110
  • your friend is because God has
  • 00:16:07.110 --> 00:16:09.060
  • appointed a day in which he'll
  • 00:16:09.060 --> 00:16:10.090
  • judge the world in
  • 00:16:10.090 --> 00:16:11.050
  • righteousness.
  • 00:16:11.050 --> 00:16:12.180
  • The day is coming when God shows
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  • that he is a God of justice and
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  • truth and is to be feared.
  • 00:16:17.000 --> 00:16:18.260
  • Jesus spoke of hell more than he
  • 00:16:18.260 --> 00:16:20.100
  • spoke of heaven.
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  • He even said this: "If your hand
  • 00:16:21.010 --> 00:16:22.260
  • offends you, cut it off and cast
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  • it from you.
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  • Don't leave it there to pick it
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  • up and put it back on."
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  • He said,
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  • "It's better to enter heaven
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  • without a hand than go to hell
  • 00:16:30.220 --> 00:16:31.270
  • with both your hands, where
  • 00:16:31.270 --> 00:16:33.090
  • the fire is never quenched
  • 00:16:33.090 --> 00:16:34.140
  • and the worm never dies."
  • 00:16:34.140 --> 00:16:35.180
  • In other words, sin in God's
  • 00:16:35.180 --> 00:16:37.210
  • The wages of sin is death.
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  • The soul that sins, it shall
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  • die.
  • 00:16:44.150 --> 00:16:45.160
  • But the same God who is just and
  • 00:16:45.160 --> 00:16:47.110
  • holy, the Bible says, is rich in
  • 00:16:47.110 --> 00:16:49.270
  • mercy.
  • 00:16:49.270 --> 00:16:50.280
  • Now, I can say to you, "God
  • 00:16:50.280 --> 00:16:52.000
  • loves you," but you say, "How do
  • 00:16:52.000 --> 00:16:53.100
  • I know that?"
  • 00:16:53.100 --> 00:16:54.130
  • Well, is it because I prosper in
  • 00:16:54.130 --> 00:16:55.240
  • things, things are going good?
  • 00:16:55.240 --> 00:16:56.290
  • Is that a sign of God's love?
  • 00:16:56.290 --> 00:16:58.080
  • Well, if it is, then the Mafia
  • 00:16:58.080 --> 00:17:00.050
  • are loved more than I am.
  • 00:17:00.050 --> 00:17:01.240
  • So material blessings are not
  • 00:17:01.240 --> 00:17:03.200
  • always a sign of God's favor and
  • 00:17:03.200 --> 00:17:05.150
  • his love.
  • 00:17:05.150 --> 00:17:06.140
  • This is what the Bible says:
  • 00:17:06.140 --> 00:17:08.020
  • "God commended his love toward
  • 00:17:08.020 --> 00:17:10.080
  • us, and while we're yet sinners,
  • 00:17:10.080 --> 00:17:11.180
  • Christ died for us.
  • 00:17:11.180 --> 00:17:12.130
  • For God so loved the world that
  • 00:17:12.130 --> 00:17:13.280
  • he gave his only begotten Son."
  • 00:17:13.280 --> 00:17:15.240
  • How do we know God loves us?
  • 00:17:15.240 --> 00:17:17.120
  • Because he provided a Savior to
  • 00:17:17.120 --> 00:17:19.040
  • save us from this thing called
  • 00:17:19.040 --> 00:17:20.150
  • death.
  • 00:17:20.150 --> 00:17:21.140
  • The Bible says God was manifest
  • 00:17:21.140 --> 00:17:23.140
  • in the flesh.
  • 00:17:23.140 --> 00:17:24.220
  • Jesus Christ was the express
  • 00:17:24.220 --> 00:17:26.220
  • the reason God became a human
  • 00:17:28.240 --> 00:17:30.030
  • being was to suffer on our
  • 00:17:30.030 --> 00:17:32.000
  • behalf to take the punishment
  • 00:17:32.000 --> 00:17:33.100
  • for our sins.
  • 00:17:33.100 --> 00:17:34.120
  • Now, most people know that
  • 00:17:34.120 --> 00:17:35.150
  • because we celebrate Easter
  • 00:17:35.150 --> 00:17:36.280
  • and we celebrate Christmas.
  • 00:17:36.280 --> 00:17:38.070
  • "Unto us this day a Savior
  • 00:17:38.070 --> 00:17:39.140
  • is born."
  • 00:17:39.140 --> 00:17:40.140
  • But they don't realize
  • 00:17:40.140 --> 00:17:41.080
  • the legal implications.
  • 00:17:41.080 --> 00:17:43.140
  • You and I broke God's law, the
  • 00:17:43.140 --> 00:17:45.020
  • moral law, the Ten Commandments.
  • 00:17:45.020 --> 00:17:46.140
  • We're heading for God's prison,
  • 00:17:46.140 --> 00:17:48.000
  • a place called hell, without
  • 00:17:48.000 --> 00:17:49.200
  • parole but 2.000 years ago, God
  • 00:17:50.000 --> 00:17:53.000
  • stepped in in the person of
  • 00:17:53.000 --> 00:17:54.020
  • Jesus Christ and paid our fine
  • 00:17:54.020 --> 00:17:56.060
  • on the cross.
  • 00:17:56.060 --> 00:17:57.130
  • He cried out, "It is finished."
  • 00:17:57.130 --> 00:17:59.090
  • In other words,
  • 00:17:59.090 --> 00:17:59.290
  • the debt has been paid.
  • 00:17:59.290 --> 00:18:00.240
  • If you're ever in court,
  • 00:18:00.240 --> 00:18:02.110
  • even though you're guilty,
  • 00:18:02.110 --> 00:18:03.210
  • the judge can let you go
  • 00:18:03.210 --> 00:18:05.050
  • if someone pays your fine.
  • 00:18:05.050 --> 00:18:06.220
  • He can say, "Oh,
  • 00:18:06.220 --> 00:18:07.120
  • this guy's guilty but fine's
  • 00:18:07.120 --> 00:18:08.290
  • paid so he's out of here."
  • 00:18:08.290 --> 00:18:10.160
  • Well, God can dismiss our case.
  • 00:18:10.160 --> 00:18:12.040
  • He can let us go, he can commute
  • 00:18:12.040 --> 00:18:13.180
  • our death sentence, because
  • 00:18:13.180 --> 00:18:15.070
  • the fine was paid in full
  • 00:18:15.070 --> 00:18:17.120
  • through the suffering death
  • 00:18:17.120 --> 00:18:18.120
  • of Jesus Christ who then rose
  • 00:18:18.120 --> 00:18:19.260
  • from the dead.
  • 00:18:19.260 --> 00:18:20.160
  • It was not possible that death
  • 00:18:20.160 --> 00:18:22.040
  • could hold him.
  • 00:18:22.040 --> 00:18:23.040
  • And now God offers us remission
  • 00:18:23.040 --> 00:18:24.210
  • of sins.
  • 00:18:24.210 --> 00:18:25.110
  • He can forgive our sins and
  • 00:18:25.110 --> 00:18:26.130
  • grant us the gift of everlasting
  • 00:18:26.130 --> 00:18:28.010
  • life because of what Jesus did
  • 00:18:28.010 --> 00:18:29.280
  • on the cross.
  • 00:18:29.280 --> 00:18:31.030
  • repentance and faith.
  • 00:18:33.050 --> 00:18:34.050
  • The Bible says of the apostle
  • 00:18:34.050 --> 00:18:35.140
  • Paul: "He shall not to preach
  • 00:18:35.150 --> 00:18:38.150
  • repentance and faith."
  • 00:18:38.150 --> 00:18:40.220
  • Repentance doesn't save you.
  • 00:18:40.220 --> 00:18:43.020
  • Neither does faith save you.
  • 00:18:43.020 --> 00:18:44.200
  • The only thing can save you is
  • 00:18:44.200 --> 00:18:45.270
  • God's grace.
  • 00:18:45.270 --> 00:18:47.140
  • By grace are you saved through
  • 00:18:47.140 --> 00:18:49.130
  • faith.
  • 00:18:49.130 --> 00:18:50.030
  • That's the medium.
  • 00:18:50.030 --> 00:18:50.230
  • It's the gift of God, not of
  • 00:18:50.230 --> 00:18:52.080
  • works lest any man should boast.
  • 00:18:52.080 --> 00:18:53.190
  • So give up trying to be good,
  • 00:18:53.190 --> 00:18:54.220
  • give up trying to be religious,
  • 00:18:54.220 --> 00:18:55.270
  • and fling yourself upon the
  • 00:18:55.270 --> 00:18:57.090
  • mercy of the judge and say, "Oh,
  • 00:18:57.090 --> 00:18:58.190
  • God, I need your mercy."
  • 00:18:58.190 --> 00:19:00.270
  • And then you'll say with
  • 00:19:00.270 --> 00:19:02.090
  • John Newton, "Amazing grace,
  • 00:19:02.090 --> 00:19:05.000
  • how sweet the sound that saved
  • 00:19:05.000 --> 00:19:06.090
  • a wretch like me.
  • 00:19:06.090 --> 00:19:07.150
  • I once was lost, but now
  • 00:19:07.150 --> 00:19:08.190
  • I'm found; was blind,
  • 00:19:08.190 --> 00:19:10.000
  • but now I see."
  • 00:19:10.000 --> 00:19:11.070
  • So how do you get right
  • 00:19:11.070 --> 00:19:12.040
  • with God?
  • 00:19:12.040 --> 00:19:13.190
  • You apologize to
  • 00:19:13.190 --> 00:19:15.010
  • God for your sins.
  • 00:19:15.010 --> 00:19:16.140
  • If you have an argument with
  • 00:19:16.140 --> 00:19:17.110
  • your wife or your girlfriend
  • 00:19:17.110 --> 00:19:18.130
  • or your spouse, there's
  • 00:19:18.130 --> 00:19:19.080
  • But if you come and say,
  • 00:19:21.100 --> 00:19:22.030
  • "Honey, I'm so sorry."
  • 00:19:22.030 --> 00:19:23.060
  • And she says,
  • 00:19:23.060 --> 00:19:23.260
  • "I'm sorry too," and there's
  • 00:19:23.260 --> 00:19:24.200
  • tears of reconciliation.
  • 00:19:24.200 --> 00:19:26.100
  • You come together like that.
  • 00:19:26.100 --> 00:19:27.290
  • That's what happens upon
  • 00:19:27.290 --> 00:19:29.030
  • repentance.
  • 00:19:29.030 --> 00:19:30.070
  • You come with contrition and
  • 00:19:30.070 --> 00:19:31.070
  • say, "God, against you and you
  • 00:19:31.070 --> 00:19:33.070
  • only have I sinned and done
  • 00:19:33.070 --> 00:19:34.120
  • this evil in your sight."
  • 00:19:34.120 --> 00:19:36.010
  • And then you'll have
  • 00:19:36.010 --> 00:19:36.220
  • reconciliation with God.
  • 00:19:36.220 --> 00:19:38.000
  • You'll come to know him, whom to
  • 00:19:38.000 --> 00:19:39.130
  • know is life eternal.
  • 00:19:39.130 --> 00:19:41.020
  • So just get before the Lord and
  • 00:19:41.020 --> 00:19:42.180
  • say, "Father, I've sinned
  • 00:19:42.180 --> 00:19:43.180
  • against you.
  • 00:19:43.180 --> 00:19:44.080
  • God, I've broken your
  • 00:19:44.080 --> 00:19:45.000
  • commandments.
  • 00:19:45.000 --> 00:19:45.290
  • I deserve hell but you
  • 00:19:45.290 --> 00:19:47.010
  • offer me heaven.
  • 00:19:47.010 --> 00:19:47.240
  • I put my faith in Jesus Christ
  • 00:19:47.240 --> 00:19:49.150
  • this day and from now on
  • 00:19:49.150 --> 00:19:50.260
  • I'm gonna read your Word daily
  • 00:19:50.260 --> 00:19:52.080
  • and obey it."
  • 00:19:52.080 --> 00:19:53.140
  • And Jesus said this:
  • 00:19:53.140 --> 00:19:55.060
  • "He that has my commandments and
  • 00:19:55.060 --> 00:19:56.190
  • keeps them, he it is that loves
  • 00:19:56.190 --> 00:19:58.150
  • me and he that loves me will be
  • 00:19:58.150 --> 00:19:59.160
  • loved by my Father.
  • 00:19:59.160 --> 00:20:00.250
  • I too will love him and
  • 00:20:00.250 --> 00:20:02.190
  • So be obedient and that reality
  • 00:20:05.030 --> 00:20:07.140
  • of God's presence in your life
  • 00:20:07.140 --> 00:20:09.080
  • will become very real to you.
  • 00:20:09.080 --> 00:20:10.180
  • So there's a number
  • 00:20:10.180 --> 00:20:11.140
  • on your screen.
  • 00:20:11.140 --> 00:20:12.140
  • Call that.
  • 00:20:12.140 --> 00:20:13.040
  • Don't wait 'til tomorrow.
  • 00:20:13.040 --> 00:20:14.160
  • Get right with God today because
  • 00:20:14.160 --> 00:20:16.250
  • you may not have tomorrow.
  • 00:20:16.250 --> 00:20:18.210
  • - Matt: Today is the day
  • 00:20:18.210 --> 00:20:20.240
  • of salvation.
  • 00:20:20.240 --> 00:20:21.180
  • Ray, you know, this "Atheist
  • 00:20:21.220 --> 00:20:24.220
  • Delusion," this program that
  • 00:20:24.220 --> 00:20:26.210
  • we're doing right now, wherever
  • 00:20:26.210 --> 00:20:28.050
  • you're watching, this is the
  • 00:20:28.050 --> 00:20:30.080
  • "Praise" program.
  • 00:20:30.080 --> 00:20:31.070
  • Ray has brought his entire
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  • production, "The Atheist
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  • Delusion," for us, free of
  • 00:20:35.000 --> 00:20:35.240
  • The point in what we're doing
  • 00:20:35.240 --> 00:20:37.100
  • here is for salvation.
  • 00:20:37.100 --> 00:20:38.230
  • There's a number on your screen.
  • 00:20:38.230 --> 00:20:40.030
  • Just call.
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  • If you want more information
  • 00:20:40.250 --> 00:20:42.070
  • about salvation, call us.
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  • Let us know.
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  • There's somebody willing right
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  • now to pray for you.
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  • We handle, you know, an average
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  • of about 10.000 calls a day and
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  • so it's part of the ministry of
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  • what we do for you.
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  • And it's for you.
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  • That number is for you.
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  • That's why we do what we're
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  • doing.
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  • "Atheist Delusion"
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  • with Ray Comfort.
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  • This production, a Living
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  • Waters/Ray Comfort film,
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  • continues right here on
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  • - Ray: Tell me, what is DNA?
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  • - female: What is it?
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  • Deoxyribonucleic acid.
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  • And it's what makes up our
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  • bodies and our cells and
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  • everything that makes us
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  • who we are.
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  • - male: DNA is, like, our
  • 00:21:23.180 --> 00:21:24.080
  • biological code, kind of like,
  • 00:21:24.080 --> 00:21:26.030
  • binaries are O's and 1's.
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  • Information about us, who we
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  • are, what makes us us, parts of
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  • us, how we look, how we're
  • 00:21:31.140 --> 00:21:33.160
  • built, everything like that.
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  • - Ray: Your genes instructed
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  • your cells how to make your eyes
  • 00:21:36.030 --> 00:21:37.130
  • and what color your eyes should
  • 00:21:37.130 --> 00:21:38.130
  • be, and your hair and your
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  • height and your personality.
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  • - Ray: Scientists call it
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  • the instruction book for life.
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  • - female: Basically.
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  • - Joe Hanson: Everything that
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  • you are or ever will be made of,
  • 00:21:48.140 --> 00:21:50.120
  • starts as a tiny book of
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  • instructions found at each
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  • and every cell.
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  • Every time your body wants to
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  • make something, it goes back to
  • 00:21:54.010 --> 00:21:55.150
  • the instruction book, looks it
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  • up, and puts it together.
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  • The book of you would have 46
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  • chapters, one for each
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  • chromosome.
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  • Each of our book's 46 chapters
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  • is of between 48 and 250 million
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  • letters long, that's
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  • 3.2 billion letters total.
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  • - Sir David Attenborough: This
  • 00:22:13.230 --> 00:22:14.150
  • is the secret language of DNA.
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  • - Ray: Instruction book for
  • 00:22:19.070 --> 00:22:20.090
  • life?
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  • - male: Yes.
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  • - Ray: Instruction "book" for
  • 00:22:22.180 --> 00:22:23.220
  • life?
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  • - male: Yes.
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  • - Ray: DNA is made up of genes,
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  • and genes give instructions to
  • 00:22:28.010 --> 00:22:29.130
  • the cells as to how your body
  • 00:22:29.130 --> 00:22:30.110
  • should grow.
  • 00:22:30.110 --> 00:22:31.120
  • Did you know if those
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  • instructions, the instruction
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  • book of your DNA, just your DNA,
  • 00:22:33.120 --> 00:22:36.120
  • was laid out end for end, would
  • 00:22:36.120 --> 00:22:37.280
  • go to the sun and back a number
  • 00:22:37.280 --> 00:22:39.100
  • of times?
  • 00:22:39.100 --> 00:22:40.000
  • That book of instructions is so
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  • comprehensive.
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  • - Ray: DNA is the genetic
  • 00:22:44.030 --> 00:22:45.110
  • information encoded in the cell
  • 00:22:45.110 --> 00:22:46.290
  • of every living thing that
  • 00:22:46.290 --> 00:22:48.130
  • instructs our cells how to grow
  • 00:22:48.130 --> 00:22:50.110
  • and how to function.
  • 00:22:50.110 --> 00:22:51.200
  • It's our genes that determine
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  • whether our skin will be dark or
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  • light, have brown or blue eyes,
  • 00:22:54.200 --> 00:22:56.240
  • or red or green or yellow, have
  • 00:22:56.240 --> 00:22:58.260
  • red hair, be brunette or blond,
  • 00:22:58.260 --> 00:23:01.000
  • be tall or not so tall, or the
  • 00:23:01.000 --> 00:23:02.100
  • color of our feathers if we're a
  • 00:23:02.100 --> 00:23:05.020
  • bird.
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  • Whether we're humans, fish,
  • 00:23:05.220 --> 00:23:07.010
  • animals, insects, or plant life,
  • 00:23:07.010 --> 00:23:09.140
  • the way our bodies look and
  • 00:23:09.140 --> 00:23:10.190
  • operate has all been prewritten
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  • in the amazing book of our DNA.
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  • - Ray: What do you think of the
  • 00:23:14.230 --> 00:23:16.040
  • mentality of someone who
  • 00:23:16.040 --> 00:23:17.030
  • believes a book fell together
  • 00:23:17.030 --> 00:23:18.110
  • without a bookmaker?
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  • - male: Right, well, it would
  • 00:23:19.290 --> 00:23:20.280
  • be crazy.
  • 00:23:20.280 --> 00:23:22.000
  • - Ray: Do you think a book
  • 00:23:22.000 --> 00:23:22.240
  • could make itself?
  • 00:23:22.240 --> 00:23:24.050
  • - female: No, I don't.
  • 00:23:24.050 --> 00:23:25.050
  • - male: Of course not.
  • 00:23:25.050 --> 00:23:26.240
  • - male: No.
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  • - Ray: Oddly impossible?
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  • - female: Yes.
  • 00:23:29.220 --> 00:23:31.020
  • - Andrew: Anything could happen
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  • about--
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  • - Ray: I mean from nothing.
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  • - Andrew: Well--
  • 00:23:35.190 --> 00:23:36.090
  • - Ray: Couldn't happen, could
  • 00:23:36.090 --> 00:23:37.000
  • it?
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  • - Richard: I don't think so.
  • 00:23:37.190 --> 00:23:38.100
  • - Ray: Would be impossible.
  • 00:23:38.100 --> 00:23:39.080
  • - Richard: It would be like
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  • saying an explosion caused
  • 00:23:40.200 --> 00:23:42.180
  • everything that makes a 747
  • 00:23:42.180 --> 00:23:44.120
  • airplane to all just come
  • 00:23:44.120 --> 00:23:45.170
  • together by accident without
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  • some intelligent thought
  • 00:23:47.160 --> 00:23:50.160
  • behind it.
  • 00:23:50.160 --> 00:23:51.090
  • - Ray: That's a good point.
  • 00:23:51.090 --> 00:23:52.080
  • - Ray: Do you believe DNA
  • 00:23:52.080 --> 00:23:54.080
  • happened by accident?
  • 00:23:54.080 --> 00:23:56.290
  • - female: No.
  • 00:23:56.290 --> 00:23:57.190
  • I think that it developed over
  • 00:23:57.190 --> 00:23:58.200
  • the course of many, many
  • 00:23:58.200 --> 00:24:00.270
  • millennia of evolution and
  • 00:24:00.270 --> 00:24:03.170
  • development.
  • 00:24:03.170 --> 00:24:04.080
  • - Ray: DNA exists in every
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  • living--every living thing.
  • 00:24:05.140 --> 00:24:07.240
  • Its origins don't matter.
  • 00:24:07.240 --> 00:24:09.180
  • The fact that there is
  • 00:24:09.180 --> 00:24:10.170
  • intelligent information tells us
  • 00:24:10.170 --> 00:24:12.020
  • there must be an intelligent
  • 00:24:12.020 --> 00:24:13.070
  • designer.
  • 00:24:13.070 --> 00:24:13.280
  • Is this making you think?
  • 00:24:13.280 --> 00:24:15.280
  • - female: It is.
  • 00:24:15.280 --> 00:24:16.180
  • And I do think about it from
  • 00:24:16.180 --> 00:24:17.250
  • time to time.
  • 00:24:17.250 --> 00:24:18.160
  • It's just, yeah, it's
  • 00:24:18.160 --> 00:24:21.070
  • complicated, definitely.
  • 00:24:21.070 --> 00:24:23.010
  • - Ray: Well, it's--DNA's
  • 00:24:23.010 --> 00:24:24.130
  • complicated but the point I'm
  • 00:24:24.130 --> 00:24:25.250
  • trying to make is very simple.
  • 00:24:25.250 --> 00:24:27.130
  • Book, book designer or
  • 00:24:27.130 --> 00:24:28.220
  • bookmaker.
  • 00:24:28.220 --> 00:24:29.230
  • DNA, intelligent designer: God.
  • 00:24:31.140 --> 00:24:34.140
  • Does that make sense?
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  • - female: Yes.
  • 00:24:36.020 --> 00:24:36.220
  • - Ray: What would you think of
  • 00:24:36.220 --> 00:24:37.140
  • the intelligence of someone who
  • 00:24:37.140 --> 00:24:38.140
  • believed the instruction book
  • 00:24:38.140 --> 00:24:39.240
  • for life made itself?
  • 00:24:39.240 --> 00:24:41.230
  • - Andrew: Low.
  • 00:24:41.230 --> 00:24:42.140
  • Low intelligence level.
  • 00:24:42.140 --> 00:24:43.160
  • - male: DNA happened by
  • 00:24:43.160 --> 00:24:45.000
  • accident?
  • 00:24:45.000 --> 00:24:45.200
  • Mm.
  • 00:24:45.200 --> 00:24:46.100
  • - male: Probably not too smart,
  • 00:24:46.100 --> 00:24:47.200
  • ha, ha.
  • 00:24:47.200 --> 00:24:48.100
  • - Ray: DNA couldn't make
  • 00:24:48.100 --> 00:24:49.060
  • itself.
  • 00:24:49.060 --> 00:24:49.260
  • It's impossible.
  • 00:24:49.260 --> 00:24:50.260
  • Does that make sense?
  • 00:24:50.260 --> 00:24:53.020
  • - male: Yes.
  • 00:24:53.020 --> 00:24:54.050
  • - Ray: Is this making you
  • 00:24:54.050 --> 00:24:55.180
  • think?
  • 00:24:55.180 --> 00:24:56.210
  • - male: Yes.
  • 00:24:56.210 --> 00:24:57.240
  • - Ray: And what would you think
  • 00:24:57.240 --> 00:24:59.190
  • of the person who believed that
  • 00:24:59.190 --> 00:25:01.210
  • DNA, the instruction book for
  • 00:25:01.210 --> 00:25:03.220
  • life, happened by accident?
  • 00:25:03.220 --> 00:25:05.210
  • - Ray: 'Cause we're not just
  • 00:25:05.210 --> 00:25:06.140
  • talking about human beings.
  • 00:25:06.140 --> 00:25:07.210
  • We're talking about every form
  • 00:25:07.210 --> 00:25:09.150
  • of life: fleas, cats, dogs,
  • 00:25:09.150 --> 00:25:10.290
  • elephants, cows, horses, trees,
  • 00:25:11.090 --> 00:25:14.090
  • plants.
  • 00:25:14.090 --> 00:25:14.290
  • Everything has DNA, the
  • 00:25:14.290 --> 00:25:16.110
  • instruction book for life, which
  • 00:25:16.220 --> 00:25:19.220
  • makes the book in your hand just
  • 00:25:19.220 --> 00:25:21.030
  • seem feeble compared to the
  • 00:25:21.030 --> 00:25:23.020
  • infinite intelligence that must
  • 00:25:23.020 --> 00:25:24.230
  • have put the instruction book
  • 00:25:24.230 --> 00:25:26.260
  • for life together.
  • 00:25:26.260 --> 00:25:28.040
  • Can you see what I'm saying?
  • 00:25:28.040 --> 00:25:30.020
  • - male: Yeah.
  • 00:25:30.020 --> 00:25:30.240
  • - Ray: Do you believe DNA
  • 00:25:30.240 --> 00:25:31.220
  • happened by accident?
  • 00:25:31.220 --> 00:25:33.240
  • - male: I believe it could.
  • 00:25:33.240 --> 00:25:36.050
  • - Ray: Explain it to me.
  • 00:25:36.050 --> 00:25:36.250
  • How a program could make itself
  • 00:25:36.250 --> 00:25:39.010
  • out of nothing, on how to make
  • 00:25:39.010 --> 00:25:40.130
  • a human eye, giraffes' eyes,
  • 00:25:40.130 --> 00:25:41.230
  • elephants' eyes, cats, dogs,
  • 00:25:41.230 --> 00:25:44.010
  • puppies, flowers, birds, trees.
  • 00:25:44.010 --> 00:25:45.200
  • Every living thing has DNA
  • 00:25:45.200 --> 00:25:47.230
  • that's so complex it's mind
  • 00:25:47.230 --> 00:25:49.200
  • boggling, it must have been a
  • 00:25:49.200 --> 00:25:51.100
  • genius beyond any human
  • 00:25:51.100 --> 00:25:52.190
  • reasoning that put it together.
  • 00:25:52.190 --> 00:25:54.000
  • And to say it happened by chance
  • 00:25:54.000 --> 00:25:55.180
  • is infinitely sillier than
  • 00:25:55.180 --> 00:25:57.140
  • saying a physical book happened
  • 00:25:57.140 --> 00:25:58.160
  • by chance.
  • 00:25:58.160 --> 00:25:59.110
  • All I'm doing is reasoning with
  • 00:25:59.110 --> 00:26:00.230
  • you.
  • 00:26:00.230 --> 00:26:01.130
  • I'm not arguing--I don't wanna
  • 00:26:01.130 --> 00:26:02.050
  • win an argument.
  • 00:26:02.050 --> 00:26:02.230
  • I'm just saying I want you to
  • 00:26:02.230 --> 00:26:04.050
  • concede something that's
  • 00:26:04.050 --> 00:26:05.120
  • absolute commonsense.
  • 00:26:05.120 --> 00:26:07.230
  • - Ray: You're an atheist so you
  • 00:26:07.230 --> 00:26:09.030
  • believe the scientific
  • 00:26:09.030 --> 00:26:09.230
  • impossibility that nothing
  • 00:26:09.230 --> 00:26:11.210
  • created everything?
  • 00:26:11.210 --> 00:26:12.180
  • - female: I mean, it can't be
  • 00:26:12.180 --> 00:26:13.270
  • nothing.
  • 00:26:13.270 --> 00:26:14.170
  • We all had to start from some
  • 00:26:14.170 --> 00:26:15.290
  • point.
  • 00:26:15.290 --> 00:26:16.190
  • - Richard: I wouldn't say
  • 00:26:16.190 --> 00:26:17.090
  • nothing created it.
  • 00:26:17.090 --> 00:26:17.290
  • There had to be something there
  • 00:26:17.290 --> 00:26:18.260
  • in the beginning.
  • 00:26:18.260 --> 00:26:19.190
  • - Ray: You like
  • 00:26:19.190 --> 00:26:20.150
  • Richard Dawkins, don't you?
  • 00:26:20.150 --> 00:26:21.280
  • - male: Well, I mean, you know,
  • 00:26:21.280 --> 00:26:23.220
  • yeah, I like him.
  • 00:26:23.220 --> 00:26:25.060
  • - Ray: Do you believe nothing
  • 00:26:25.060 --> 00:26:26.000
  • created everything is scientific
  • 00:26:26.000 --> 00:26:27.120
  • impossibility, which is what he
  • 00:26:27.120 --> 00:26:28.240
  • believes?
  • 00:26:28.240 --> 00:26:29.260
  • - Ray: You don't believe in
  • 00:26:29.260 --> 00:26:31.180
  • a creator of all things?
  • 00:26:31.180 --> 00:26:33.220
  • - male: If he says that, I
  • 00:26:33.220 --> 00:26:34.160
  • think it's a very strange thing
  • 00:26:34.160 --> 00:26:36.050
  • to say.
  • 00:26:36.050 --> 00:26:37.080
  • - Ray: Well, he says it.
  • 00:26:37.080 --> 00:26:38.120
  • It's insane.
  • 00:26:38.120 --> 00:26:39.020
  • Nothing can't create anything
  • 00:26:39.020 --> 00:26:40.030
  • 'cause it's nothing.
  • 00:26:40.030 --> 00:26:40.230
  • There has to be something in the
  • 00:26:40.230 --> 00:26:42.030
  • beginning.
  • 00:26:42.030 --> 00:26:42.230
  • - male: Nowhere in our history
  • 00:26:42.230 --> 00:26:43.180
  • of human reality has something
  • 00:26:43.180 --> 00:26:45.070
  • kind of just appeared out of
  • 00:26:45.070 --> 00:26:46.130
  • nowhere.
  • 00:26:46.130 --> 00:26:47.120
  • - Ray: Do you believe that
  • 00:26:47.120 --> 00:26:48.190
  • nothing created everything?
  • 00:26:48.190 --> 00:26:50.060
  • - male: No, because nothing
  • 00:26:50.060 --> 00:26:51.030
  • can't perform actions.
  • 00:26:51.030 --> 00:26:52.010
  • That makes no sense.
  • 00:26:52.010 --> 00:26:53.270
  • - Ray: So default position, if
  • 00:26:53.270 --> 00:26:55.060
  • you're saying nothing created
  • 00:26:55.060 --> 00:26:56.180
  • everything, then you're agreeing
  • 00:26:56.180 --> 00:26:58.060
  • with Richard Dawkins.
  • 00:26:58.060 --> 00:26:59.200
  • - male: You're miscategorizing
  • 00:26:59.200 --> 00:27:00.160
  • Richard Dawkins
  • 00:27:00.160 --> 00:27:01.010
  • because Richard Dawkins,
  • 00:27:01.010 --> 00:27:02.020
  • I'm sure he didn't say that.
  • 00:27:02.020 --> 00:27:02.220
  • - Ray: Professor Richard
  • 00:27:04.240 --> 00:27:05.180
  • Dawkins, arguably the world's
  • 00:27:05.180 --> 00:27:06.290
  • most high-profile atheist,
  • 00:27:06.290 --> 00:27:08.280
  • believes that in the beginning
  • 00:27:08.280 --> 00:27:09.230
  • there was nothing and that
  • 00:27:09.230 --> 00:27:10.280
  • As he attempts to justify
  • 00:27:13.120 --> 00:27:14.170
  • this belief, admitting that
  • 00:27:14.170 --> 00:27:16.050
  • it defies commonsense,
  • 00:27:16.050 --> 00:27:17.200
  • the learned professor calls
  • 00:27:17.200 --> 00:27:19.150
  • nothing "something."
  • 00:27:19.150 --> 00:27:21.170
  • Watch the reaction of
  • 00:27:21.170 --> 00:27:22.200
  • his audience.
  • 00:27:22.200 --> 00:27:23.260
  • - Richard Dawkins: Of course,
  • 00:27:23.260 --> 00:27:24.180
  • it's counterintuitive that you
  • 00:27:24.180 --> 00:27:25.230
  • can get something from nothing.
  • 00:27:25.230 --> 00:27:27.030
  • Of course, commonsense doesn't
  • 00:27:27.030 --> 00:27:29.060
  • allow you to get something
  • 00:27:29.060 --> 00:27:30.090
  • from nothing.
  • 00:27:30.090 --> 00:27:31.020
  • That's why it's interesting.
  • 00:27:31.020 --> 00:27:32.210
  • It's got to be interesting
  • 00:27:32.210 --> 00:27:33.290
  • in order to give rise to
  • 00:27:33.290 --> 00:27:34.270
  • the universe at all.
  • 00:27:34.270 --> 00:27:36.130
  • Something pretty mysterious
  • 00:27:36.130 --> 00:27:38.060
  • had to give rise to the origin
  • 00:27:38.060 --> 00:27:40.040
  • of the universe.
  • 00:27:40.040 --> 00:27:40.290
  • But exactly what's meant by
  • 00:27:40.290 --> 00:27:42.220
  • nothing, but whatever it is,
  • 00:27:42.220 --> 00:27:44.030
  • nothing, but whatever it is,
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  • [l
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  • [lau
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  • [laugh
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  • [laughin
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  • [laughing]
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  • [l
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  • [laugh
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  • [laughin
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  • - male: Well, I think it's
  • 00:27:49.260 --> 00:27:52.080
  • a bit funny to be trying
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  • a bit funny to be trying
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  • [a
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  • [app
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  • [appla
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  • [applaud
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  • [applaudin
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  • - male: Richard Dawkins,
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  • I'm sure he didn't say that.
  • 00:28:00.020 --> 00:28:01.010
  • That seems ridiculous.
  • 00:28:01.290 --> 00:28:04.290
  • - Ray: The audience reaction
  • 00:28:04.290 --> 00:28:05.290
  • confused the normally eloquent
  • 00:28:05.290 --> 00:28:07.130
  • professor because he's not used
  • 00:28:07.130 --> 00:28:09.070
  • to being the object of laughter.
  • 00:28:09.070 --> 00:28:11.140
  • What he didn't realize was he
  • 00:28:11.140 --> 00:28:13.050
  • was talking to people who
  • 00:28:13.050 --> 00:28:14.110
  • were endowed by their Creator
  • 00:28:14.110 --> 00:28:15.240
  • with a virtue of commonsense.
  • 00:28:15.240 --> 00:28:18.170
  • This was just another case where
  • 00:28:18.170 --> 00:28:20.020
  • the emperor has no clothes.
  • 00:28:20.020 --> 00:28:22.130
  • Someone should tell this man
  • 00:28:22.130 --> 00:28:23.190
  • who has deceived millions,
  • 00:28:23.190 --> 00:28:25.130
  • "You're talking foolishness."
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  • - Ray: Is that what you
  • 00:28:28.130 --> 00:28:29.030
  • believe?
  • 00:28:29.030 --> 00:28:30.060
  • - female: I mean, it can't
  • 00:28:30.060 --> 00:28:30.260
  • be nothing.
  • 00:28:30.260 --> 00:28:31.170
  • We all had to start from
  • 00:28:31.170 --> 00:28:32.090
  • some point.
  • 00:28:32.090 --> 00:28:33.050
  • - Ray: But there has to be
  • 00:28:33.050 --> 00:28:33.290
  • something that created
  • 00:28:33.290 --> 00:28:34.260
  • everything.
  • 00:28:34.260 --> 00:28:35.200
  • You just--it just wasn't God.
  • 00:28:35.200 --> 00:28:36.250
  • Is that what you're saying?
  • 00:28:36.250 --> 00:28:38.190
  • - female: Yeah.
  • 00:28:38.190 --> 00:28:39.100
  • It's just evolution,
  • 00:28:39.100 --> 00:28:40.260
  • how things became from
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  • one organism into many.
  • 00:28:44.000 --> 00:28:46.030
  • - Ray: But that doesn't solve
  • 00:28:46.030 --> 00:28:47.020
  • your dilemma of
  • 00:28:47.020 --> 00:28:48.060
  • the initial cause.
  • 00:28:48.060 --> 00:28:49.280
  • There has to be an initial
  • 00:28:49.280 --> 00:28:50.180
  • cause.
  • 00:28:50.180 --> 00:28:51.240
  • If there was a big bang in space
  • 00:28:51.240 --> 00:28:53.040
  • that from there issued cats and
  • 00:28:53.040 --> 00:28:55.270
  • dogs and horses and cows,
  • 00:28:55.270 --> 00:28:57.000
  • the sun, the moon, the stars,
  • 00:28:57.000 --> 00:28:59.000
  • the seasons and all this marvel
  • 00:28:59.000 --> 00:29:00.130
  • of creation came from a big
  • 00:29:00.130 --> 00:29:01.190
  • explosion, what caused
  • 00:29:01.190 --> 00:29:03.170
  • the explosion and where did
  • 00:29:03.170 --> 00:29:04.180
  • the materials come from,
  • 00:29:04.180 --> 00:29:05.170
  • from the explosion,
  • 00:29:05.170 --> 00:29:06.220
  • and why is there such incredible
  • 00:29:06.220 --> 00:29:07.280
  • order from the explosion?
  • 00:29:07.280 --> 00:29:09.140
  • Every explosion I've heard of
  • 00:29:09.140 --> 00:29:10.160
  • creates chaos, not order.
  • 00:29:10.160 --> 00:29:12.270
  • - Ray: The reason most people
  • 00:29:12.270 --> 00:29:14.260
  • aren't Christians is because of
  • 00:29:14.260 --> 00:29:16.030
  • what's called idolatry.
  • 00:29:16.030 --> 00:29:17.190
  • They've got a wrong concept
  • 00:29:17.190 --> 00:29:18.110
  • of what God is.
  • 00:29:18.110 --> 00:29:19.100
  • Take Richard Dawkins.
  • 00:29:19.100 --> 00:29:20.010
  • Have you heard of him?
  • 00:29:20.010 --> 00:29:21.050
  • - male: Of course, yes.
  • 00:29:21.050 --> 00:29:21.250
  • - Ray: Richard Dawkins
  • 00:29:21.250 --> 00:29:22.210
  • is not an atheist.
  • 00:29:22.210 --> 00:29:23.160
  • He's an idolater.
  • 00:29:23.160 --> 00:29:24.260
  • What an idolater normally
  • 00:29:24.260 --> 00:29:26.110
  • does is pick out the--like,
  • 00:29:26.110 --> 00:29:27.210
  • treat God like a buffet.
  • 00:29:27.210 --> 00:29:29.160
  • When you go to a buffet,
  • 00:29:29.160 --> 00:29:30.100
  • you take the nice things,
  • 00:29:30.100 --> 00:29:31.090
  • the sweet things that you like.
  • 00:29:31.090 --> 00:29:32.100
  • Well, an idolater normally
  • 00:29:32.100 --> 00:29:33.180
  • says, "God is merciful,
  • 00:29:33.180 --> 00:29:34.290
  • love, and kind."
  • 00:29:34.290 --> 00:29:36.020
  • And they just create a false
  • 00:29:36.020 --> 00:29:36.240
  • God with no sense of justice.
  • 00:29:36.240 --> 00:29:38.070
  • Richard Dawkins, instead of
  • 00:29:38.070 --> 00:29:39.120
  • doing that, he goes through
  • 00:29:39.120 --> 00:29:40.090
  • the Old Testament and takes the
  • 00:29:40.090 --> 00:29:41.080
  • judgments of God, the wrath of
  • 00:29:41.080 --> 00:29:42.260
  • God, and he creates a monster
  • 00:29:42.260 --> 00:29:44.130
  • with no sense of
  • 00:29:44.130 --> 00:29:45.080
  • mercy or justice.
  • 00:29:45.080 --> 00:29:46.200
  • - male: you've,
  • 00:29:46.200 --> 00:29:48.210
  • in your books, you've
  • 00:29:48.210 --> 00:29:49.210
  • been pretty scathing about
  • 00:29:49.210 --> 00:29:52.100
  • the God of the Old Testament.
  • 00:29:52.100 --> 00:29:54.060
  • Let me just quote you, if I may.
  • 00:29:54.260 --> 00:29:57.260
  • "The most unpleasant character
  • 00:29:57.260 --> 00:29:58.240
  • in all fiction: misogynistic,
  • 00:29:58.240 --> 00:30:01.010
  • homophobic, racist,
  • 00:30:01.010 --> 00:30:02.150
  • genocidal, megalomaniacal,
  • 00:30:02.150 --> 00:30:04.290
  • sadomasochistic," and you go on.
  • 00:30:04.290 --> 00:30:07.100
  • - Ray: You know in your heart
  • 00:30:07.100 --> 00:30:08.030
  • God exists.
  • 00:30:08.030 --> 00:30:09.020
  • I know you know for many
  • 00:30:09.020 --> 00:30:09.210
  • reasons.
  • 00:30:09.210 --> 00:30:10.290
  • One was, I'm like you.
  • 00:30:10.290 --> 00:30:12.140
  • I was running from God too.
  • 00:30:12.140 --> 00:30:14.290
  • And two, the Bible says God has
  • 00:30:14.290 --> 00:30:16.080
  • given light to every man.
  • 00:30:16.080 --> 00:30:18.180
  • And when you put that light out,
  • 00:30:18.180 --> 00:30:20.090
  • when you dull that conscience
  • 00:30:20.090 --> 00:30:21.200
  • and your inner knowledge of
  • 00:30:21.200 --> 00:30:22.210
  • God's existence, Jesus said,
  • 00:30:22.210 --> 00:30:24.040
  • "When that light is put out, how
  • 00:30:24.040 --> 00:30:26.030
  • great is that darkness?"
  • 00:30:26.030 --> 00:30:28.090
  • You're like a man who takes
  • 00:30:28.090 --> 00:30:29.060
  • the batteries out of a smoke
  • 00:30:29.060 --> 00:30:30.070
  • detector 'cause he doesn't like
  • 00:30:30.070 --> 00:30:32.070
  • being alarmed by the smoke
  • 00:30:32.070 --> 00:30:33.090
  • detector, and all he's doing is
  • 00:30:33.090 --> 00:30:35.260
  • doing himself a tremendous
  • 00:30:35.260 --> 00:30:37.030
  • disservice 'cause when he goes
  • 00:30:37.030 --> 00:30:38.040
  • to sleep and there's a fire,
  • 00:30:38.040 --> 00:30:39.110
  • there's nothing to warn him.
  • 00:30:39.110 --> 00:30:40.120
  • And you're gonna go to sleep
  • 00:30:40.120 --> 00:30:41.290
  • without that conscience telling
  • 00:30:41.290 --> 00:30:43.020
  • you what to do 'cause you've
  • 00:30:43.020 --> 00:30:43.250
  • dulled it, you've taken
  • 00:30:43.250 --> 00:30:44.200
  • the batteries out.
  • 00:30:44.200 --> 00:30:45.110
  • And I'm saying, let it be
  • 00:30:45.110 --> 00:30:47.030
  • renewed today.
  • 00:30:47.030 --> 00:30:48.020
  • Stir up your conscience.
  • 00:30:48.020 --> 00:30:48.290
  • Think about your mortality, your
  • 00:30:48.290 --> 00:30:50.150
  • death.
  • 00:30:50.150 --> 00:30:51.090
  • - Ray: When the Bible calls an
  • 00:30:51.090 --> 00:30:52.150
  • atheist a fool, it doesn't mean
  • 00:30:52.150 --> 00:30:53.270
  • a clown or a court jester.
  • 00:30:53.270 --> 00:30:56.220
  • When it calls him a fool, it's
  • 00:30:56.220 --> 00:30:58.030
  • because he's denying the inner
  • 00:30:58.030 --> 00:30:59.110
  • light that God's given to every
  • 00:30:59.110 --> 00:31:00.260
  • man, the knowledge of right and
  • 00:31:00.260 --> 00:31:02.160
  • wrong.
  • 00:31:02.160 --> 00:31:03.060
  • It says, "Their foolish hearts
  • 00:31:03.060 --> 00:31:04.250
  • were darkened and they embraced
  • 00:31:04.250 --> 00:31:06.240
  • a lie rather than the truth."
  • 00:31:06.240 --> 00:31:08.100
  • They believed a lie rather than
  • 00:31:08.100 --> 00:31:09.110
  • the truth, which is what atheism
  • 00:31:09.110 --> 00:31:10.210
  • is.
  • 00:31:10.210 --> 00:31:11.110
  • It's a lie.
  • 00:31:11.110 --> 00:31:12.020
  • - Ray: I'm giving you evidence
  • 00:31:12.020 --> 00:31:13.010
  • and facts, just as a physical
  • 00:31:13.080 --> 00:31:16.080
  • book by logic and reason has a
  • 00:31:16.120 --> 00:31:19.120
  • maker, so the instruction book
  • 00:31:19.120 --> 00:31:22.120
  • containing infinite wisdom and
  • 00:31:22.120 --> 00:31:24.230
  • intelligence and instructions
  • 00:31:24.230 --> 00:31:27.100
  • beyond any human comprehension,
  • 00:31:27.100 --> 00:31:29.120
  • is evidence of the existence of
  • 00:31:29.120 --> 00:31:31.070
  • an intelligent designer.
  • 00:31:31.070 --> 00:31:32.180
  • But the reason you wanna fight
  • 00:31:32.180 --> 00:31:34.040
  • it is the same reason a thief
  • 00:31:34.040 --> 00:31:35.090
  • doesn't wanna find a policeman.
  • 00:31:35.090 --> 00:31:37.070
  • The last thing you want is God
  • 00:31:37.070 --> 00:31:39.060
  • in your life because you love
  • 00:31:39.060 --> 00:31:40.030
  • your porn, you love your
  • 00:31:40.030 --> 00:31:40.250
  • premarital sex, your
  • 00:31:40.250 --> 00:31:41.250
  • fornication.
  • 00:31:41.250 --> 00:31:42.230
  • In a sense, I'm preaching the
  • 00:31:42.230 --> 00:31:43.240
  • choir because I know that you
  • 00:31:43.240 --> 00:31:45.260
  • know the Creator exists.
  • 00:31:45.260 --> 00:31:48.230
  • The Bible says you're given the
  • 00:31:48.230 --> 00:31:49.240
  • truth by God but you suppress it
  • 00:31:49.240 --> 00:31:51.250
  • in unrighteousness.
  • 00:31:51.250 --> 00:31:52.210
  • You hold it down.
  • 00:31:52.210 --> 00:31:54.080
  • Every single one of us know that
  • 00:31:54.080 --> 00:31:55.270
  • there is a Creator but we don't
  • 00:31:55.270 --> 00:31:57.120
  • know the truth of Christianity
  • 00:31:57.120 --> 00:31:58.180
  • and that's what we're called to
  • 00:31:58.180 --> 00:32:00.090
  • do as Christians: bring the
  • 00:32:00.090 --> 00:32:01.210
  • truth of Christianity.
  • 00:32:01.210 --> 00:32:02.200
  • So how you can live forever.
  • 00:32:02.200 --> 00:32:03.180
  • This Creator became a person and
  • 00:32:03.180 --> 00:32:05.270
  • made it so you can have
  • 00:32:05.270 --> 00:32:06.210
  • everlasting life, if you're
  • 00:32:06.210 --> 00:32:07.230
  • interested.
  • 00:32:07.230 --> 00:32:08.130
  • If you're not, it's your choice,
  • 00:32:08.130 --> 00:32:10.000
  • but I know that you wanna live.
  • 00:32:10.000 --> 00:32:11.180
  • So the argument for intelligent
  • 00:32:11.180 --> 00:32:14.000
  • design isn't to convince people
  • 00:32:14.000 --> 00:32:15.240
  • of the Christian message.
  • 00:32:15.240 --> 00:32:16.240
  • the insanity of atheism.
  • 00:32:19.050 --> 00:32:20.280
  • Isaac Newton said,
  • 00:32:20.280 --> 00:32:22.090
  • "Atheism is so senseless."
  • 00:32:22.090 --> 00:32:24.040
  • And it is, it's senseless,
  • 00:32:26.180 --> 00:32:27.150
  • 'cause you're given senses:
  • 00:32:27.150 --> 00:32:29.000
  • seeing, hearing, touching,
  • 00:32:29.000 --> 00:32:30.190
  • tasting, and smelling.
  • 00:32:30.190 --> 00:32:32.120
  • Think of your taste buds,
  • 00:32:32.120 --> 00:32:33.030
  • how incredible they are.
  • 00:32:33.030 --> 00:32:34.210
  • Sitting there, waiting for food
  • 00:32:34.210 --> 00:32:35.290
  • to come and they all rejoice and
  • 00:32:35.290 --> 00:32:37.100
  • leap for joy when there's good
  • 00:32:37.100 --> 00:32:38.220
  • food and gives you pleasure.
  • 00:32:38.220 --> 00:32:39.280
  • And think of what you're able to
  • 00:32:39.280 --> 00:32:41.090
  • look on, the flowers and the
  • 00:32:41.090 --> 00:32:42.240
  • birds, and hear the birds in
  • 00:32:42.240 --> 00:32:43.290
  • the morning, and see the trees
  • 00:32:43.290 --> 00:32:45.230
  • raising their arms in praise to
  • 00:32:45.230 --> 00:32:47.000
  • God, and the blueness of the sky
  • 00:32:47.000 --> 00:32:48.110
  • and the warmth of the sun.
  • 00:32:48.110 --> 00:32:49.160
  • That sun's 93 million
  • 00:32:49.160 --> 00:32:50.260
  • miles away.
  • 00:32:50.260 --> 00:32:52.140
  • We're spinning in space, 1.000
  • 00:32:52.140 --> 00:32:53.260
  • miles an hour, round and round.
  • 00:32:53.260 --> 00:32:55.230
  • We're going through space at
  • 00:32:55.230 --> 00:32:56.170
  • 63.000 miles an hour, and that
  • 00:32:56.170 --> 00:32:58.200
  • sun's sending rays, 93 million
  • 00:32:58.200 --> 00:33:01.020
  • miles, and it's just warm enough
  • 00:33:01.020 --> 00:33:03.030
  • to ripen your tomatoes.
  • 00:33:03.030 --> 00:33:04.170
  • - Ray: This is very clear
  • 00:33:04.170 --> 00:33:06.150
  • evidence.
  • 00:33:06.150 --> 00:33:07.050
  • It's, like, there's nothing to
  • 00:33:07.050 --> 00:33:07.270
  • think about.
  • 00:33:07.270 --> 00:33:08.160
  • It's either nothing made
  • 00:33:08.160 --> 00:33:09.250
  • everything or something made
  • 00:33:09.250 --> 00:33:12.240
  • everything.
  • 00:33:12.240 --> 00:33:13.280
  • - male: Some things made
  • 00:33:13.280 --> 00:33:14.290
  • everything, not something in
  • 00:33:14.290 --> 00:33:16.050
  • particular.
  • 00:33:16.050 --> 00:33:16.250
  • Not one, like, not one
  • 00:33:16.250 --> 00:33:19.220
  • specific--
  • 00:33:19.220 --> 00:33:20.170
  • - Ray: You know what you're
  • 00:33:20.170 --> 00:33:21.210
  • trying to do?
  • 00:33:21.210 --> 00:33:22.170
  • You're trying to get away from
  • 00:33:22.170 --> 00:33:24.070
  • moral responsibility to God.
  • 00:33:24.070 --> 00:33:25.110
  • That's really your argument.
  • 00:33:25.110 --> 00:33:26.150
  • And that's what the Bible says.
  • 00:33:26.150 --> 00:33:28.070
  • - Ray: There has to be an
  • 00:33:28.070 --> 00:33:28.270
  • intelligent mind beyond human
  • 00:33:28.270 --> 00:33:30.270
  • reasoning to put DNA together.
  • 00:33:30.270 --> 00:33:32.110
  • Does that make sense?
  • 00:33:32.110 --> 00:33:34.060
  • - female: That makes sense.
  • 00:33:34.060 --> 00:33:35.130
  • - Ray: So why can't we make the
  • 00:33:35.130 --> 00:33:36.230
  • leap from there, across to
  • 00:33:36.230 --> 00:33:38.170
  • saying, "Yeah, atheism can't be
  • 00:33:38.170 --> 00:33:41.000
  • true"?
  • 00:33:41.000 --> 00:33:43.270
  • - female: I don't know,
  • 00:33:43.270 --> 00:33:44.270
  • to be honest.
  • 00:33:44.270 --> 00:33:46.080
  • I'm not really too sure.
  • 00:33:46.080 --> 00:33:47.290
  • - Ray: Examine your motives.
  • 00:33:47.290 --> 00:33:48.250
  • There must be a hidden motive.
  • 00:33:48.250 --> 00:33:50.090
  • Let me see if I can guess what
  • 00:33:50.090 --> 00:33:51.220
  • it is, okay?
  • 00:33:51.220 --> 00:33:52.180
  • See if I can put my finger
  • 00:33:52.180 --> 00:33:53.220
  • on it.
  • 00:33:53.220 --> 00:33:54.180
  • If you acknowledge that God does
  • 00:33:55.030 --> 00:33:58.030
  • exist, you're admitting you're
  • 00:33:58.030 --> 00:33:59.170
  • ultimately responsible to him.
  • 00:33:59.170 --> 00:34:01.050
  • - Ray: I'm going right to why
  • 00:34:01.050 --> 00:34:02.060
  • you've got such a big problem
  • 00:34:02.060 --> 00:34:03.050
  • with this.
  • 00:34:03.050 --> 00:34:03.250
  • This is so simple.
  • 00:34:03.250 --> 00:34:04.150
  • Someone made the book.
  • 00:34:04.150 --> 00:34:05.140
  • Someone created DNA.
  • 00:34:05.140 --> 00:34:06.100
  • You don't wanna say someone
  • 00:34:06.100 --> 00:34:07.160
  • who's intelligent because if
  • 00:34:07.160 --> 00:34:09.010
  • you're into porn, you're into
  • 00:34:09.010 --> 00:34:10.040
  • sex with your girlfriend, it
  • 00:34:10.040 --> 00:34:10.280
  • gives you so much pleasure and
  • 00:34:10.280 --> 00:34:12.070
  • you don't want to give it up
  • 00:34:12.070 --> 00:34:13.040
  • and, if God exists, then that's
  • 00:34:13.040 --> 00:34:14.210
  • gonna put a big wet blanket on
  • 00:34:14.210 --> 00:34:16.150
  • everything.
  • 00:34:16.150 --> 00:34:17.230
  • - Ray: And that's not an
  • 00:34:17.230 --> 00:34:18.160
  • exciting thought for someone who
  • 00:34:18.160 --> 00:34:20.180
  • loves pornography and
  • 00:34:20.180 --> 00:34:22.220
  • fornication and all the things
  • 00:34:22.220 --> 00:34:24.100
  • that come with it, 'cause
  • 00:34:24.100 --> 00:34:25.010
  • there's incredible pleasure in
  • 00:34:25.010 --> 00:34:26.100
  • fornication and pornography.
  • 00:34:26.100 --> 00:34:27.160
  • And so what you do is you deny
  • 00:34:27.160 --> 00:34:30.030
  • the existence of God because it
  • 00:34:30.030 --> 00:34:31.120
  • gives you license to do those
  • 00:34:31.120 --> 00:34:32.170
  • things without a feeling of
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  • guilt.
  • 00:34:33.150 --> 00:34:34.100
  • If God does exist, well, you're
  • 00:34:34.100 --> 00:34:36.220
  • in big trouble.
  • 00:34:36.220 --> 00:34:37.120
  • So what you do is deny his
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  • existence.
  • 00:34:38.240 --> 00:34:39.270
  • Am I touching your raw nerve?
  • 00:34:39.270 --> 00:34:41.050
  • Am I close?
  • 00:34:41.050 --> 00:34:42.050
  • - Andrew: In a way, yeah.
  • 00:34:42.050 --> 00:34:44.010
  • - Ray: Make sense?
  • 00:34:44.010 --> 00:34:45.080
  • - Andrew: Makes sense.
  • 00:34:45.080 --> 00:34:46.160
  • - Ray: That makes sense.
  • 00:34:46.160 --> 00:34:47.130
  • I'm still an atheist.
  • 00:34:47.130 --> 00:34:48.210
  • Makes sense.
  • 00:34:48.210 --> 00:34:49.110
  • I'm still an atheist.
  • 00:34:49.110 --> 00:34:50.160
  • The book made itself.
  • 00:34:50.160 --> 00:34:51.240
  • It couldn't make itself.
  • 00:34:51.240 --> 00:34:53.010
  • - Andrew: Yeah, I'm lying to
  • 00:34:55.170 --> 00:34:56.220
  • myself.
  • 00:34:56.220 --> 00:34:57.120
  • - Ray: Yea, say that again.
  • 00:34:57.120 --> 00:34:58.240
  • - Andrew: I'm lying to myself.
  • 00:34:58.240 --> 00:35:00.110
  • - Ray: The Bible puts it this
  • 00:35:00.110 --> 00:35:01.180
  • way: "And this is the
  • 00:35:01.180 --> 00:35:02.160
  • condemnation, that the light has
  • 00:35:02.160 --> 00:35:04.200
  • come into the world, and men
  • 00:35:04.200 --> 00:35:07.020
  • loved darkness rather than
  • 00:35:07.020 --> 00:35:08.200
  • light, because their deeds were
  • 00:35:08.200 --> 00:35:10.200
  • evil.
  • 00:35:10.200 --> 00:35:11.100
  • For everyone practicing evil
  • 00:35:11.100 --> 00:35:12.200
  • hates the light and does not
  • 00:35:12.200 --> 00:35:15.020
  • come to the light, least
  • 00:35:15.020 --> 00:35:17.020
  • his deeds should be exposed."
  • 00:35:17.020 --> 00:35:19.020
  • The book that I handed to
  • 00:35:19.020 --> 00:35:20.210
  • the atheists is called, "Made
  • 00:35:20.210 --> 00:35:22.120
  • in Heaven," a publication that
  • 00:35:22.120 --> 00:35:24.050
  • explores 32 modern inventions
  • 00:35:24.050 --> 00:35:26.140
  • whose designs were copied from
  • 00:35:26.140 --> 00:35:27.240
  • nature.
  • 00:35:27.240 --> 00:35:28.250
  • Among other things, scientists
  • 00:35:28.250 --> 00:35:30.160
  • studied the shape of birds to
  • 00:35:30.160 --> 00:35:32.010
  • when creating a syringe, and the
  • 00:35:34.030 --> 00:35:35.270
  • earthworm in building the
  • 00:35:35.270 --> 00:35:37.010
  • machine that dug the English
  • 00:35:37.010 --> 00:35:38.130
  • Chunnel.
  • 00:35:38.130 --> 00:35:40.010
  • In 2015, world surfing champion,
  • 00:35:41.080 --> 00:35:44.080
  • Kelly Slater, and his team of
  • 00:35:44.080 --> 00:35:45.230
  • technicians produced a manmade
  • 00:35:45.230 --> 00:35:47.270
  • wave.
  • 00:35:47.270 --> 00:35:48.290
  • They, too, copied nature's
  • 00:35:48.290 --> 00:35:50.050
  • design.
  • 00:35:50.050 --> 00:35:51.140
  • They called it manmade but they
  • 00:35:51.140 --> 00:35:53.080
  • actually used existing water,
  • 00:35:53.080 --> 00:35:54.280
  • existing ground under the water,
  • 00:35:54.280 --> 00:35:57.000
  • and pre-existing laws of energy
  • 00:35:57.000 --> 00:35:58.200
  • to create the wave.
  • 00:35:58.200 --> 00:35:59.170
  • It took years for a team of very
  • 00:35:59.170 --> 00:36:02.010
  • intelligent designers to create
  • 00:36:02.010 --> 00:36:04.020
  • this one wave.
  • 00:36:04.020 --> 00:36:06.050
  • - Kelly Slater: Seen that,
  • 00:36:06.050 --> 00:36:07.040
  • I'm 100% positive our team built
  • 00:36:07.040 --> 00:36:09.290
  • the best wave than anyone's ever
  • 00:36:09.290 --> 00:36:10.270
  • made.
  • 00:36:10.270 --> 00:36:11.160
  • It's a freak of technology.
  • 00:36:12.140 --> 00:36:15.140
  • - Ray: The Scriptures say that
  • 00:36:24.100 --> 00:36:25.020
  • God gave the care of the earth
  • 00:36:25.020 --> 00:36:26.030
  • into the hands of mankind
  • 00:36:26.030 --> 00:36:28.210
  • and that he's given us richly
  • 00:36:28.210 --> 00:36:30.000
  • and that he's given us richly
  • 00:36:30.000 --> 00:36:32.250
  • [m
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  • [mus
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  • [music
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  • [music]
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  • [music]
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  • [music]
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  • [music]
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  • [music]
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  • - Ray: Of course,
  • 00:37:41.100 --> 00:37:41.290
  • atheists believe no such thing.
  • 00:37:41.290 --> 00:37:44.050
  • They're convinced that all these
  • 00:37:44.050 --> 00:37:45.110
  • pleasures came about by pure
  • 00:37:45.110 --> 00:37:46.290
  • chance, that it was fortunate
  • 00:37:46.290 --> 00:37:48.280
  • that after the Big Bang,
  • 00:37:48.280 --> 00:37:50.100
  • the earth just happened to form
  • 00:37:50.100 --> 00:37:52.130
  • and began circling the sun.
  • 00:37:52.130 --> 00:37:54.150
  • The gravity also came into being
  • 00:37:54.150 --> 00:37:56.080
  • to keep us from spinning into
  • 00:37:56.080 --> 00:37:57.150
  • space.
  • 00:37:57.150 --> 00:37:58.260
  • They believe it was fortunate
  • 00:37:58.260 --> 00:37:59.270
  • that the atmosphere formed
  • 00:37:59.270 --> 00:38:01.070
  • itself around the planet and
  • 00:38:01.070 --> 00:38:02.260
  • that the sun ended up at just
  • 00:38:02.260 --> 00:38:04.090
  • the right distance to support
  • 00:38:04.090 --> 00:38:05.210
  • life.
  • 00:38:05.210 --> 00:38:07.100
  • It was also an amazing
  • 00:38:07.100 --> 00:38:08.150
  • coincidence that water appeared.
  • 00:38:08.150 --> 00:38:10.250
  • And even more miraculously, that
  • 00:38:10.250 --> 00:38:13.050
  • inanimate matter somehow came to
  • 00:38:13.050 --> 00:38:15.060
  • life and then inexplicably that
  • 00:38:15.060 --> 00:38:17.130
  • first simple cell reproduced
  • 00:38:17.130 --> 00:38:19.150
  • itself and became increasingly
  • 00:38:19.150 --> 00:38:21.180
  • complex to create all the plant,
  • 00:38:21.180 --> 00:38:23.180
  • animal, and human life we see.
  • 00:38:26.040 --> 00:38:29.040
  • They believe it was just
  • 00:38:29.040 --> 00:38:31.100
  • happenstance that over 1 million
  • 00:38:31.100 --> 00:38:32.250
  • species evolved with both male
  • 00:38:32.250 --> 00:38:34.120
  • and female, each with the
  • 00:38:34.120 --> 00:38:36.080
  • corresponding reproductive
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  • parts, and that thousands of
  • 00:38:37.050 --> 00:38:39.060
  • different types of trees evolved
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  • and not only to furnish us with
  • 00:38:41.010 --> 00:38:42.190
  • wood to build houses, but to
  • 00:38:42.190 --> 00:38:44.140
  • breathe in our carbon dioxide
  • 00:38:44.140 --> 00:38:46.090
  • and breathe out the oxygen
  • 00:38:46.090 --> 00:38:47.280
  • essential for our life.
  • 00:38:47.280 --> 00:38:49.090
  • What a happy coincidence that
  • 00:38:49.090 --> 00:38:50.290
  • cows give us meat, leather,
  • 00:38:50.290 --> 00:38:52.090
  • milk, cheese, butter, yogurt,
  • 00:38:52.090 --> 00:38:54.060
  • and ice cream.
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  • And that chickens give us
  • 00:38:55.180 --> 00:38:57.290
  • finger-licking good food and
  • 00:38:57.290 --> 00:38:59.250
  • protein-packed eggs.
  • 00:38:59.250 --> 00:39:00.280
  • And that sheep give us wool and
  • 00:39:00.280 --> 00:39:02.140
  • meat.
  • 00:39:02.140 --> 00:39:03.040
  • Atheists also believe that it
  • 00:39:03.080 --> 00:39:06.080
  • was by chance that there are
  • 00:39:06.080 --> 00:39:08.090
  • thousands of delicious plants,
  • 00:39:08.090 --> 00:39:09.200
  • fruits, vegetables, and nuts
  • 00:39:09.200 --> 00:39:11.010
  • that are beneficial to the
  • 00:39:11.010 --> 00:39:12.220
  • health of humanity.
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  • How kind God is to give us all
  • 00:39:13.200 --> 00:39:16.090
  • these things and, on top of
  • 00:39:16.090 --> 00:39:17.260
  • that, to give us the ability and
  • 00:39:17.260 --> 00:39:19.220
  • the pleasure to reproduce after
  • 00:39:19.220 --> 00:39:21.220
  • our own kind.
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  • All the combined atheists in the
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  • world, shaking their tiny
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  • rebellious fists at their
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  • Creator are together like
  • 00:39:28.140 --> 00:39:30.040
  • a miniscule bug on the face of
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  • this massive earth, that is
  • 00:39:31.250 --> 00:39:33.160
  • nothing but a tiny dot in an
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  • unspeakably immense universe
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  • created by Almighty God.
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  • - Ray: Think hell exists?
  • 00:39:49.000 --> 00:39:50.010
  • - male: No, that I don't.
  • 00:39:50.170 --> 00:39:53.170
  • - Ray: Okay, see if I can
  • 00:39:53.170 --> 00:39:55.050
  • convince you of that, all right?
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  • If a man raped your mother
  • 00:39:56.170 --> 00:39:59.170
  • and cut her throat,
  • 00:39:59.170 --> 00:40:00.110
  • he should be punished.
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  • - male: He should be.
  • 00:40:02.040 --> 00:40:03.170
  • - Ray: So if you feel like
  • 00:40:03.170 --> 00:40:04.080
  • that, where do you get it from?
  • 00:40:04.080 --> 00:40:06.120
  • It's because you were created
  • 00:40:06.120 --> 00:40:07.060
  • in God's image.
  • 00:40:07.060 --> 00:40:08.250
  • God believes in right and wrong.
  • 00:40:08.250 --> 00:40:10.240
  • He says he set aside a day in
  • 00:40:10.240 --> 00:40:12.010
  • which he'll judge the world in
  • 00:40:12.010 --> 00:40:13.020
  • righteousness.
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  • Think of a man like Hitler,
  • 00:40:14.120 --> 00:40:15.150
  • what he did.
  • 00:40:15.150 --> 00:40:16.130
  • He slaughtered 11 million
  • 00:40:16.130 --> 00:40:17.190
  • people, 6 million of them Jews.
  • 00:40:17.190 --> 00:40:19.130
  • Men, women, and children, they
  • 00:40:19.130 --> 00:40:21.080
  • were subjected to horrors
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  • beyond words.
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  • Hell is God's prison, a place
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  • where people receive justice
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  • without parole, damned forever,
  • 00:40:28.110 --> 00:40:30.050
  • which is a terribly scary
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  • thought.
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  • This is the problem.
  • 00:40:32.160 --> 00:40:33.080
  • We find it difficult to
  • 00:40:33.080 --> 00:40:34.050
  • reconcile God being good
  • 00:40:34.050 --> 00:40:35.250
  • and then creating hell.
  • 00:40:35.250 --> 00:40:37.020
  • How could he be loving
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  • and kind and good?
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  • I wrote a book called,
  • 00:40:39.200 --> 00:40:40.120
  • "Hitler, God, and the Bible."
  • 00:40:40.120 --> 00:40:42.080
  • And I studied the Holocaust in
  • 00:40:42.080 --> 00:40:44.160
  • research for the book.
  • 00:40:44.160 --> 00:40:45.140
  • And I saw things that just made
  • 00:40:45.140 --> 00:40:47.070
  • me weep, horrors beyond words,
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  • young girls, teenage girls,
  • 00:40:49.070 --> 00:40:50.130
  • who were hung by the neck just
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  • because they didn't agree
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  • with the Nazi politics.
  • 00:40:52.220 --> 00:40:53.260
  • They were called partisans.
  • 00:40:53.260 --> 00:40:54.290
  • They hung them with thin rope to
  • 00:40:54.290 --> 00:40:56.160
  • make it more agonizing and as
  • 00:40:56.160 --> 00:40:58.070
  • they were in the death struggle,
  • 00:40:58.070 --> 00:40:59.180
  • there's pictures of Nazis
  • 00:40:59.180 --> 00:41:00.100
  • laughing at them as they
  • 00:41:00.100 --> 00:41:01.090
  • hung by the neck and died.
  • 00:41:01.270 --> 00:41:04.270
  • And I thought to myself,
  • 00:41:04.270 --> 00:41:05.200
  • "If God is good, how can
  • 00:41:05.200 --> 00:41:07.070
  • there not be a hell?
  • 00:41:07.070 --> 00:41:08.030
  • There must be punishment
  • 00:41:08.030 --> 00:41:09.270
  • for wickedness."
  • 00:41:09.270 --> 00:41:10.190
  • Does that make sense?
  • 00:41:10.190 --> 00:41:12.100
  • - male: Yeah, complete sense.
  • 00:41:12.100 --> 00:41:13.260
  • - Ray: So what are you gonna
  • 00:41:13.260 --> 00:41:14.170
  • do on Judgment Day?
  • 00:41:14.170 --> 00:41:15.090
  • How do you think you'll do?
  • 00:41:15.090 --> 00:41:15.290
  • Are you a good person?
  • 00:41:15.290 --> 00:41:17.170
  • - male: All in all I'm a good
  • 00:41:17.170 --> 00:41:18.090
  • person.
  • 00:41:18.090 --> 00:41:18.290
  • I don't really lie, cheat,
  • 00:41:18.290 --> 00:41:20.040
  • or steal, so.
  • 00:41:20.040 --> 00:41:21.120
  • - Ray: You don't lie?
  • 00:41:21.120 --> 00:41:23.170
  • - male: You know what?
  • 00:41:23.170 --> 00:41:24.070
  • Never mind.
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  • - Richard: How can he let
  • 00:41:24.270 --> 00:41:26.180
  • some of the stuff happen that
  • 00:41:26.180 --> 00:41:28.020
  • we wouldn't let happen?
  • 00:41:28.020 --> 00:41:29.120
  • We'd go to jail for doing things
  • 00:41:29.120 --> 00:41:31.220
  • that he lets happen.
  • 00:41:31.220 --> 00:41:33.010
  • Why doesn't he have a little
  • 00:41:33.010 --> 00:41:34.100
  • more--show a little
  • 00:41:34.100 --> 00:41:35.040
  • more compassion?
  • 00:41:35.040 --> 00:41:36.240
  • - Ray: When you look at what
  • 00:41:36.240 --> 00:41:37.240
  • happened in Nazi Germany,
  • 00:41:37.240 --> 00:41:38.290
  • instead of saying, "If God is
  • 00:41:38.290 --> 00:41:40.050
  • good, how can he create hell,"
  • 00:41:40.050 --> 00:41:42.150
  • you've got to come out saying,
  • 00:41:42.150 --> 00:41:44.010
  • "If God is good, how
  • 00:41:44.010 --> 00:41:45.100
  • can there not be a hell?
  • 00:41:45.100 --> 00:41:47.020
  • There must be retribution for
  • 00:41:47.020 --> 00:41:48.130
  • murder, and justice."
  • 00:41:48.130 --> 00:41:50.140
  • And the Bible says God is
  • 00:41:50.140 --> 00:41:51.150
  • so good, he's gonna punish
  • 00:41:51.150 --> 00:41:53.030
  • those murderers but he's gonna
  • 00:41:53.030 --> 00:41:54.040
  • punish rapists and thieves
  • 00:41:54.040 --> 00:41:55.060
  • and liars and fornicators.
  • 00:41:55.060 --> 00:41:56.120
  • He's gonna punish sin wherever
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  • it's found because he's good.
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  • - Ray: The Bible says:
  • 00:42:00.180 --> 00:42:01.190
  • "Lying lips are abomination
  • 00:42:01.190 --> 00:42:02.280
  • to the Lord."
  • 00:42:02.280 --> 00:42:03.210
  • Lying is incredibly--
  • 00:42:03.210 --> 00:42:04.150
  • so is blasphemy.
  • 00:42:04.150 --> 00:42:05.140
  • Using God's name as a cuss word.
  • 00:42:05.140 --> 00:42:06.240
  • - female: I would go to hell.
  • 00:42:06.240 --> 00:42:08.020
  • - Ray: Does that concern you?
  • 00:42:08.020 --> 00:42:10.160
  • - female: It does but, at the
  • 00:42:10.160 --> 00:42:12.040
  • same time, I would hope that if
  • 00:42:12.040 --> 00:42:14.250
  • there is a God that he would be
  • 00:42:14.250 --> 00:42:16.120
  • understanding that I am doing
  • 00:42:16.120 --> 00:42:17.040
  • my best to try and be the best
  • 00:42:17.040 --> 00:42:18.240
  • person I can every day.
  • 00:42:18.240 --> 00:42:20.120
  • - Ray: Well, you've blown it
  • 00:42:20.120 --> 00:42:21.030
  • like the rest of us.
  • 00:42:21.030 --> 00:42:21.220
  • It's like standing in front of
  • 00:42:21.220 --> 00:42:22.170
  • a judge and say, "Judge, I raped
  • 00:42:22.170 --> 00:42:23.270
  • that woman, but I'm really
  • 00:42:23.270 --> 00:42:24.180
  • trying to be the best I can,"
  • 00:42:24.180 --> 00:42:26.100
  • that it's already done.
  • 00:42:26.100 --> 00:42:27.190
  • The judge is gonna throw
  • 00:42:27.190 --> 00:42:28.130
  • the book at him.
  • 00:42:28.130 --> 00:42:29.190
  • - Ray: Would you go to heaven
  • 00:42:29.190 --> 00:42:31.150
  • or hell?
  • 00:42:31.150 --> 00:42:33.000
  • - male: Hell.
  • 00:42:33.000 --> 00:42:34.040
  • - Ray: Does that concern you?
  • 00:42:34.040 --> 00:42:36.110
  • - male: If it was real.
  • 00:42:36.110 --> 00:42:38.180
  • - Ray: It is real.
  • 00:42:38.180 --> 00:42:39.220
  • I know it's real.
  • 00:42:39.220 --> 00:42:41.070
  • You know it's real.
  • 00:42:41.070 --> 00:42:42.220
  • God's given you knowledge
  • 00:42:42.220 --> 00:42:44.150
  • of his existence.
  • 00:42:44.150 --> 00:42:45.110
  • Look at the genius of his hand
  • 00:42:45.110 --> 00:42:46.210
  • all around you.
  • 00:42:46.210 --> 00:42:47.270
  • Your eyes have got 137 million
  • 00:42:47.270 --> 00:42:49.240
  • light-sensitive cells.
  • 00:42:50.190 --> 00:42:53.190
  • Human beings can't make
  • 00:42:53.190 --> 00:42:54.170
  • an eye from nothing.
  • 00:42:54.170 --> 00:42:56.120
  • Just think of the complexity
  • 00:42:56.120 --> 00:42:57.130
  • of life.
  • 00:42:57.130 --> 00:42:58.030
  • You're not even control--you're
  • 00:42:58.030 --> 00:42:58.270
  • not even in control of your
  • 00:42:58.270 --> 00:42:59.270
  • life, do you realize that?
  • 00:42:59.270 --> 00:43:01.080
  • You can't stop yourself
  • 00:43:01.080 --> 00:43:02.010
  • blinking, thinking, breathing,
  • 00:43:02.010 --> 00:43:04.020
  • dreaming.
  • 00:43:04.020 --> 00:43:05.270
  • Your bodily functions happen
  • 00:43:05.270 --> 00:43:07.110
  • irrespective of your will.
  • 00:43:07.110 --> 00:43:08.240
  • You can't help but go to
  • 00:43:08.240 --> 00:43:10.060
  • the bathroom every day.
  • 00:43:10.060 --> 00:43:11.030
  • You can't help but go
  • 00:43:11.030 --> 00:43:12.080
  • to sleep at night.
  • 00:43:12.080 --> 00:43:13.060
  • You can't help but blink
  • 00:43:13.060 --> 00:43:14.110
  • and breathe.
  • 00:43:14.110 --> 00:43:15.120
  • All these things are
  • 00:43:15.120 --> 00:43:16.150
  • set in motion by God,
  • 00:43:16.150 --> 00:43:17.170
  • shaped by your DNA.
  • 00:43:17.170 --> 00:43:19.100
  • Your height, the color of your
  • 00:43:19.120 --> 00:43:22.120
  • hair, the color of your eyes,
  • 00:43:22.120 --> 00:43:23.240
  • your personality, were all
  • 00:43:23.240 --> 00:43:25.080
  • written in the instruction book
  • 00:43:25.080 --> 00:43:26.170
  • of life the moment
  • 00:43:26.170 --> 00:43:28.130
  • And within that psyche that you
  • 00:43:31.270 --> 00:43:34.080
  • have, there's a will to live.
  • 00:43:34.180 --> 00:43:37.180
  • Something in you says,
  • 00:43:37.180 --> 00:43:38.120
  • "I don't wanna die."
  • 00:43:38.120 --> 00:43:39.020
  • You're not an animal.
  • 00:43:39.020 --> 00:43:39.230
  • You're not a dog
  • 00:43:39.230 --> 00:43:40.150
  • or a cat or a horse.
  • 00:43:40.150 --> 00:43:41.270
  • You're a human being, made
  • 00:43:41.270 --> 00:43:42.240
  • in the image of God with the
  • 00:43:42.240 --> 00:43:43.210
  • knowledge of right and wrong,
  • 00:43:43.210 --> 00:43:45.110
  • given a conscience by God, which
  • 00:43:45.110 --> 00:43:46.230
  • is society-shaped but God-given.
  • 00:43:46.230 --> 00:43:48.240
  • You know right from wrong.
  • 00:43:48.240 --> 00:43:49.230
  • And so on Judgment Day, you
  • 00:43:49.230 --> 00:43:51.140
  • can't say, "I didn't know."
  • 00:43:51.140 --> 00:43:52.260
  • - Ray: You're a human being.
  • 00:43:52.260 --> 00:43:53.180
  • You're aware of your existence.
  • 00:43:53.180 --> 00:43:54.220
  • That's what human being means:
  • 00:43:54.220 --> 00:43:56.130
  • you're aware of your being.
  • 00:43:56.130 --> 00:43:57.110
  • And so there's something in you
  • 00:43:57.110 --> 00:43:58.240
  • that says, "I don't wanna die."
  • 00:43:58.240 --> 00:43:59.210
  • It's self-preservation.
  • 00:43:59.210 --> 00:44:00.250
  • The Bible says: "Jesus Christ
  • 00:44:00.250 --> 00:44:02.090
  • has abolished death."
  • 00:44:02.090 --> 00:44:04.020
  • Now, if that isn't true,
  • 00:44:04.020 --> 00:44:06.130
  • we shouldn't look into it.
  • 00:44:06.130 --> 00:44:07.050
  • But if there's one chance in
  • 00:44:07.050 --> 00:44:08.010
  • a million that it
  • 00:44:08.010 --> 00:44:08.240
  • is, your good sense should just
  • 00:44:08.240 --> 00:44:11.230
  • open your heart and say,
  • 00:44:11.230 --> 00:44:12.140
  • "I'll check it out."
  • 00:44:12.140 --> 00:44:13.100
  • Does that make sense?
  • 00:44:13.100 --> 00:44:14.190
  • - male: I hear what
  • 00:44:14.190 --> 00:44:15.200
  • you're saying.
  • 00:44:15.200 --> 00:44:16.110
  • - Ray: Now, do you know what
  • 00:44:16.110 --> 00:44:17.020
  • God did for guilty sinners so
  • 00:44:17.020 --> 00:44:18.110
  • we wouldn't have to go to hell?
  • 00:44:18.110 --> 00:44:19.100
  • Any idea?
  • 00:44:19.160 --> 00:44:22.160
  • - male: Mm--
  • 00:44:22.160 --> 00:44:24.280
  • - female: He--oh, gosh.
  • 00:44:25.040 --> 00:44:28.040
  • - male: I don't think I know.
  • 00:44:28.150 --> 00:44:31.150
  • - male: Mm-hm.
  • 00:44:31.150 --> 00:44:34.090
  • - female: I don't know.
  • 00:44:34.090 --> 00:44:35.170
  • - male: No.
  • 00:44:35.170 --> 00:44:36.180
  • - female: Would you mind
  • 00:44:36.180 --> 00:44:37.070
  • telling me?
  • 00:44:37.070 --> 00:44:38.250
  • - Ray: Who could help you?
  • 00:44:38.250 --> 00:44:40.140
  • Nobody.
  • 00:44:40.140 --> 00:44:41.150
  • Buddhism can't help you.
  • 00:44:41.150 --> 00:44:42.180
  • Islam can't help you.
  • 00:44:42.180 --> 00:44:43.150
  • Hinduism can't help you.
  • 00:44:43.150 --> 00:44:45.210
  • Being religious can't help you.
  • 00:44:45.210 --> 00:44:46.290
  • Being good can't help you.
  • 00:44:46.290 --> 00:44:48.090
  • You are hopeless.
  • 00:44:48.090 --> 00:44:49.240
  • Only thing can help you is
  • 00:44:49.240 --> 00:44:51.100
  • God's mercy.
  • 00:44:51.100 --> 00:44:52.050
  • And that was extended through
  • 00:44:52.050 --> 00:44:53.020
  • the cross, through the Savior.
  • 00:44:53.020 --> 00:44:54.260
  • There's no one on the face of
  • 00:44:54.260 --> 00:44:56.150
  • the earth that can help you.
  • 00:44:56.150 --> 00:44:58.090
  • The Bible says, "Neither is
  • 00:44:58.090 --> 00:44:59.070
  • there salvation in any other.
  • 00:44:59.070 --> 00:45:00.210
  • There is no other name
  • 00:45:00.210 --> 00:45:02.060
  • under heaven given among men,
  • 00:45:02.060 --> 00:45:03.240
  • whereby you must be saved."
  • 00:45:03.240 --> 00:45:05.000
  • That's why Jesus said,
  • 00:45:05.000 --> 00:45:05.240
  • "I am the way, the truth,
  • 00:45:05.240 --> 00:45:06.280
  • and the life.
  • 00:45:06.280 --> 00:45:07.170
  • No man comes to
  • 00:45:07.170 --> 00:45:08.210
  • the Father but by me."
  • 00:45:08.210 --> 00:45:09.240
  • You have no choice.
  • 00:45:09.240 --> 00:45:11.090
  • There's only one parachute
  • 00:45:11.090 --> 00:45:12.100
  • being offered and that's
  • 00:45:12.100 --> 00:45:13.170
  • the Savior Jesus Christ.
  • 00:45:13.170 --> 00:45:15.070
  • The Bible says: "Put on
  • 00:45:15.070 --> 00:45:15.280
  • the Lord Jesus Christ."
  • 00:45:15.280 --> 00:45:17.140
  • - Ray: Jesus of Nazareth,
  • 00:45:17.140 --> 00:45:18.200
  • perfect sinless man who gave
  • 00:45:18.200 --> 00:45:19.210
  • his life on the cross.
  • 00:45:19.210 --> 00:45:20.150
  • Now you probably know that
  • 00:45:20.150 --> 00:45:21.210
  • but you may not know
  • 00:45:21.210 --> 00:45:22.230
  • the legal implications.
  • 00:45:22.280 --> 00:45:25.280
  • - Ray: God's a judge.
  • 00:45:25.280 --> 00:45:27.000
  • The Bible paints him as
  • 00:45:27.000 --> 00:45:27.220
  • the ultimate judge,
  • 00:45:27.220 --> 00:45:28.260
  • the habitation of justice.
  • 00:45:28.260 --> 00:45:30.020
  • You and I are criminals called
  • 00:45:30.020 --> 00:45:31.080
  • sinners because we've violated
  • 00:45:31.080 --> 00:45:32.120
  • his law, the Ten Commandments.
  • 00:45:32.120 --> 00:45:34.010
  • We're heading for God's prison,
  • 00:45:34.010 --> 00:45:35.090
  • a place called hell,
  • 00:45:35.090 --> 00:45:36.160
  • without parole.
  • 00:45:36.160 --> 00:45:37.170
  • We're under the death sentence.
  • 00:45:37.170 --> 00:45:38.160
  • But Jesus stepped in
  • 00:45:38.160 --> 00:45:39.260
  • and paid our fine in full.
  • 00:45:39.260 --> 00:45:41.050
  • If you're in court, even though
  • 00:45:41.050 --> 00:45:43.070
  • you're guilty, if someone pays
  • 00:45:43.070 --> 00:45:44.050
  • your fine, the judge can say,
  • 00:45:44.050 --> 00:45:45.020
  • "This person's guilty but
  • 00:45:45.020 --> 00:45:46.220
  • if someone's paid his fine,
  • 00:45:46.220 --> 00:45:47.250
  • he's out of here."
  • 00:45:47.250 --> 00:45:48.220
  • And he can do that
  • 00:45:48.220 --> 00:45:49.130
  • which is just.
  • 00:45:49.130 --> 00:45:50.080
  • Well, the Bible says God can let
  • 00:45:50.080 --> 00:45:52.000
  • you live forever because Jesus
  • 00:45:52.000 --> 00:45:53.120
  • paid the fine in full
  • 00:45:53.120 --> 00:45:54.160
  • on that cross.
  • 00:45:54.160 --> 00:45:55.160
  • When he was on the cross he
  • 00:45:55.160 --> 00:45:56.060
  • cried out, "It is finished"
  • 00:45:56.060 --> 00:45:58.090
  • on the cross.
  • 00:45:58.090 --> 00:45:59.270
  • It was his last words.
  • 00:45:59.270 --> 00:46:00.260
  • In other words,
  • 00:46:00.260 --> 00:46:01.170
  • the debt has been paid.
  • 00:46:01.170 --> 00:46:02.210
  • That means God can
  • 00:46:02.210 --> 00:46:03.180
  • legally grant you the gift
  • 00:46:03.180 --> 00:46:05.240
  • of everlasting life.
  • 00:46:05.240 --> 00:46:06.240
  • And then he died and then
  • 00:46:06.240 --> 00:46:08.030
  • rose from the dead 3 days later.
  • 00:46:08.030 --> 00:46:09.040
  • And what you have to do to have
  • 00:46:09.040 --> 00:46:10.260
  • your case dismissed, to walk out
  • 00:46:10.260 --> 00:46:13.000
  • of God's courtroom and be gifted
  • 00:46:13.000 --> 00:46:14.040
  • with everlasting life because
  • 00:46:14.040 --> 00:46:15.210
  • God's merciful, is repent of
  • 00:46:15.210 --> 00:46:17.080
  • your sins and trust in Jesus,
  • 00:46:17.080 --> 00:46:19.130
  • like you trust a parachute.
  • 00:46:19.130 --> 00:46:20.250
  • If you ever jump out of a plane,
  • 00:46:20.250 --> 00:46:21.200
  • don't just believe in the
  • 00:46:21.200 --> 00:46:22.240
  • parachute, put your faith in it.
  • 00:46:22.240 --> 00:46:24.130
  • Put your trust in it.
  • 00:46:24.130 --> 00:46:25.100
  • And that's what you must do
  • 00:46:25.100 --> 00:46:26.080
  • with the Savior.
  • 00:46:26.080 --> 00:46:27.150
  • You repent and trust in Christ.
  • 00:46:27.150 --> 00:46:28.270
  • You don't have to get religious
  • 00:46:28.270 --> 00:46:30.110
  • or do good works.
  • 00:46:30.110 --> 00:46:31.210
  • It's a free gift of God.
  • 00:46:31.210 --> 00:46:32.240
  • And the second you do that,
  • 00:46:32.240 --> 00:46:34.020
  • Andrew, God will dismiss every
  • 00:46:34.020 --> 00:46:35.080
  • sin, all those secret sins,
  • 00:46:35.080 --> 00:46:36.130
  • the imaginations of your heart,
  • 00:46:36.130 --> 00:46:37.250
  • those sexual ones you thought
  • 00:46:37.250 --> 00:46:39.010
  • no one saw.
  • 00:46:39.010 --> 00:46:39.240
  • God saw them and you stirred up
  • 00:46:39.240 --> 00:46:41.050
  • his wrath.
  • 00:46:41.050 --> 00:46:41.280
  • If you stand in front of
  • 00:46:41.280 --> 00:46:43.110
  • the judge and say, "Judge,
  • 00:46:43.110 --> 00:46:44.070
  • I raped that woman.
  • 00:46:44.070 --> 00:46:45.000
  • Very serious crime,
  • 00:46:45.000 --> 00:46:45.220
  • but I wanna tell you,
  • 00:46:45.220 --> 00:46:46.120
  • I do a lot of good things."
  • 00:46:46.120 --> 00:46:47.170
  • Judge could say,
  • 00:46:47.170 --> 00:46:48.030
  • "What are you talking about?
  • 00:46:48.030 --> 00:46:48.230
  • You're not gonna be judged by
  • 00:46:48.230 --> 00:46:49.260
  • what you do that's good.
  • 00:46:49.260 --> 00:46:50.230
  • You're gonna be judged
  • 00:46:50.230 --> 00:46:51.160
  • on the crime of rape.
  • 00:46:51.160 --> 00:46:52.150
  • You're going to prison, buddy."
  • 00:46:52.150 --> 00:46:53.090
  • A judge won't judge you
  • 00:46:53.090 --> 00:46:54.210
  • on your good works,
  • 00:46:54.210 --> 00:46:55.170
  • and God's exactly the same.
  • 00:46:55.170 --> 00:46:57.100
  • Good works are irrelevant.
  • 00:46:57.100 --> 00:46:58.270
  • We can't bribe God to forgive
  • 00:46:58.270 --> 00:47:00.190
  • our sins and let us live.
  • 00:47:00.190 --> 00:47:02.080
  • All we can do is throw ourselves
  • 00:47:02.080 --> 00:47:03.240
  • on the mercy of the Judge and
  • 00:47:03.240 --> 00:47:05.010
  • say, "God, forgive me," and--but
  • 00:47:05.010 --> 00:47:06.290
  • the Bible says God is rich in
  • 00:47:06.290 --> 00:47:08.140
  • mercy and he provided a Savior.
  • 00:47:08.140 --> 00:47:10.160
  • And he'll forgive you in
  • 00:47:10.160 --> 00:47:11.180
  • a second because of what Jesus
  • 00:47:11.180 --> 00:47:13.020
  • did on the cross.
  • 00:47:13.020 --> 00:47:14.060
  • It's called grace
  • 00:47:14.060 --> 00:47:15.030
  • and it's amazing.
  • 00:47:15.030 --> 00:47:16.080
  • The Bible says God is rich
  • 00:47:16.080 --> 00:47:17.220
  • in mercy and he can save you by
  • 00:47:17.220 --> 00:47:19.250
  • his grace, his unmerited favor.
  • 00:47:19.250 --> 00:47:21.200
  • - Raven-Symoné: You don't have
  • 00:47:23.220 --> 00:47:24.140
  • to go to church on Christmas
  • 00:47:24.140 --> 00:47:25.160
  • and it is about being good.
  • 00:47:25.160 --> 00:47:26.260
  • And that's what all religions
  • 00:47:26.260 --> 00:47:27.290
  • are about, anyway.
  • 00:47:27.290 --> 00:47:28.240
  • Be a good person.
  • 00:47:28.240 --> 00:47:30.060
  • - female: You don't think all
  • 00:47:30.060 --> 00:47:30.270
  • religions have the thing of--
  • 00:47:30.270 --> 00:47:31.210
  • - Raven-Symoné: Be a good
  • 00:47:31.210 --> 00:47:32.110
  • person?
  • 00:47:32.110 --> 00:47:33.090
  • - female: Not Christianity
  • 00:47:33.090 --> 00:47:34.000
  • it's by grace through faith.
  • 00:47:34.000 --> 00:47:35.080
  • - Raven-Symoné: What? What?
  • 00:47:35.080 --> 00:47:36.180
  • - female: By grace through
  • 00:47:36.180 --> 00:47:37.080
  • faith you've been saved.
  • 00:47:37.080 --> 00:47:38.000
  • - Ray: It's called
  • 00:47:38.000 --> 00:47:38.200
  • amazing grace.
  • 00:47:38.200 --> 00:47:39.100
  • And when you repent and trust
  • 00:47:41.120 --> 00:47:42.100
  • Christ, everlasting life is
  • 00:47:42.100 --> 00:47:43.110
  • a free gift and death has
  • 00:47:43.110 --> 00:47:44.190
  • no hold on you.
  • 00:47:44.190 --> 00:47:45.090
  • - Ray: See, your beliefs
  • 00:47:45.090 --> 00:47:46.020
  • are so imperative.
  • 00:47:46.020 --> 00:47:47.120
  • You may not think beliefs are
  • 00:47:47.120 --> 00:47:48.220
  • important but if you're walking
  • 00:47:48.220 --> 00:47:49.290
  • along a path and you believe
  • 00:47:49.290 --> 00:47:51.120
  • there's a landmine in front
  • 00:47:51.120 --> 00:47:52.110
  • of you, your belief
  • 00:47:52.110 --> 00:47:53.180
  • will govern your steps.
  • 00:47:53.180 --> 00:47:55.150
  • If you don't believe,
  • 00:47:55.150 --> 00:47:56.050
  • you'll walk right onto it.
  • 00:47:56.050 --> 00:47:57.010
  • So what you believe,
  • 00:47:57.010 --> 00:47:58.030
  • certainly does matter.
  • 00:47:58.030 --> 00:47:59.010
  • And if you believe you're a good
  • 00:47:59.010 --> 00:48:00.140
  • person when you're not, you're
  • 00:48:00.140 --> 00:48:01.060
  • a lying thief and a blasphemer,
  • 00:48:01.060 --> 00:48:02.130
  • or adulterer at heart,
  • 00:48:02.130 --> 00:48:03.140
  • you won't repent, so that's
  • 00:48:03.140 --> 00:48:04.190
  • the basis of all religion.
  • 00:48:04.190 --> 00:48:06.170
  • They think they can do something
  • 00:48:06.170 --> 00:48:07.270
  • to have everlasting life:
  • 00:48:07.270 --> 00:48:08.170
  • face make-up, pray,
  • 00:48:08.170 --> 00:48:09.200
  • fast, repent, lie
  • 00:48:09.200 --> 00:48:10.230
  • on beds of nails.
  • 00:48:10.230 --> 00:48:11.230
  • They think they can earn eternal
  • 00:48:11.230 --> 00:48:13.090
  • life from God.
  • 00:48:13.090 --> 00:48:14.170
  • Well, merit is favor
  • 00:48:14.170 --> 00:48:16.270
  • and you, it can't be done.
  • 00:48:16.270 --> 00:48:18.020
  • - Ray: Just wanna say, Richard,
  • 00:48:18.020 --> 00:48:19.120
  • I care about you, I love you,
  • 00:48:19.120 --> 00:48:20.130
  • I want to see you
  • 00:48:20.130 --> 00:48:21.090
  • on Judgment Day on the--
  • 00:48:21.090 --> 00:48:22.120
  • in heaven, not--I don't wanna
  • 00:48:22.120 --> 00:48:23.140
  • hear of you being in hell.
  • 00:48:23.140 --> 00:48:24.240
  • Nothing would grieve me more
  • 00:48:24.240 --> 00:48:26.000
  • 'cause you've a multitude of
  • 00:48:26.000 --> 00:48:27.070
  • sins and God's rich in mercy
  • 00:48:27.070 --> 00:48:28.160
  • and will forgive you if you'll
  • 00:48:28.160 --> 00:48:30.010
  • humble yourself, repent,
  • 00:48:30.010 --> 00:48:31.100
  • and trust in him.
  • 00:48:31.100 --> 00:48:32.130
  • - Richard: I'll only be bored
  • 00:48:32.130 --> 00:48:33.040
  • in heaven if I make it there.
  • 00:48:33.040 --> 00:48:34.250
  • - Ray: No, you see--no,
  • 00:48:34.250 --> 00:48:35.200
  • let me tell you.
  • 00:48:35.200 --> 00:48:36.240
  • Heaven is not people with wings
  • 00:48:36.240 --> 00:48:38.150
  • sitting on clouds playing
  • 00:48:38.150 --> 00:48:39.230
  • rusty harps.
  • 00:48:39.230 --> 00:48:40.140
  • That's ridiculous.
  • 00:48:40.140 --> 00:48:41.050
  • God promises we're gonna
  • 00:48:41.050 --> 00:48:42.120
  • inherit this earth without
  • 00:48:42.120 --> 00:48:43.160
  • the Genesis curse.
  • 00:48:43.160 --> 00:48:44.120
  • No more earthquakes, no more
  • 00:48:44.120 --> 00:48:45.250
  • hurricanes, floods, disease,
  • 00:48:45.250 --> 00:48:47.070
  • pain, suffering, and death.
  • 00:48:47.070 --> 00:48:48.060
  • He's gonna give it to the meek.
  • 00:48:48.060 --> 00:48:49.250
  • The meek will inherit the earth.
  • 00:48:49.250 --> 00:48:51.100
  • So when we talk of heaven,
  • 00:48:51.100 --> 00:48:52.100
  • we're gonna have heaven on earth
  • 00:48:52.100 --> 00:48:53.200
  • where the Lion will lie down
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  • with the Lamb, the swords
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  • will be changed into plowshares,
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  • no more wars, no more murder,
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  • rape, kids being molested.
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  • No more sin.
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  • And you could be part of
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  • that kingdom if you repent and
  • 00:49:02.140 --> 00:49:03.240
  • trust Christ and I want you to
  • 00:49:03.240 --> 00:49:05.160
  • 'cause I care about you, okay?
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  • - Richard: Why?
  • 00:49:09.060 --> 00:49:09.260
  • I'm a total stranger to you.
  • 00:49:09.260 --> 00:49:10.270
  • Why do you care about me?
  • 00:49:10.270 --> 00:49:12.030
  • - Ray: 'Cause I love you.
  • 00:49:12.030 --> 00:49:12.260
  • I'm a Christian.
  • 00:49:12.260 --> 00:49:13.160
  • I'm not filled with hate
  • 00:49:13.160 --> 00:49:14.160
  • like some religions.
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  • - Ray: Did the information
  • 00:49:16.270 --> 00:49:17.200
  • I gave you about DNA make you
  • 00:49:17.200 --> 00:49:19.270
  • think deeper?
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  • - male: Yes, it did,
  • 00:49:21.180 --> 00:49:22.280
  • absolutely.
  • 00:49:22.280 --> 00:49:23.180
  • - Ray: Are you now no longer
  • 00:49:23.180 --> 00:49:24.090
  • an atheist?
  • 00:49:24.090 --> 00:49:25.150
  • - female: I suppose when you
  • 00:49:25.150 --> 00:49:26.110
  • present to me the technical
  • 00:49:26.110 --> 00:49:28.040
  • definition, I would say,
  • 00:49:28.040 --> 00:49:29.050
  • "No, I am open."
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  • - David: When you came up to me
  • 00:49:31.100 --> 00:49:32.200
  • and say, "Atheist," that's what
  • 00:49:32.200 --> 00:49:33.120
  • I identify as but I believe that
  • 00:49:33.120 --> 00:49:35.020
  • there are things that probably
  • 00:49:35.020 --> 00:49:36.140
  • can't be explained and it is
  • 00:49:36.140 --> 00:49:37.230
  • possible that, you know,
  • 00:49:37.230 --> 00:49:38.280
  • there is a Creator.
  • 00:49:38.280 --> 00:49:39.230
  • - male: I'll definitely
  • 00:49:39.230 --> 00:49:40.130
  • consider this.
  • 00:49:40.130 --> 00:49:41.030
  • This will leave an imprint
  • 00:49:41.030 --> 00:49:41.230
  • on my mind.
  • 00:49:41.230 --> 00:49:42.120
  • - male: It's definitely made me
  • 00:49:42.120 --> 00:49:43.050
  • think about it.
  • 00:49:43.050 --> 00:49:44.030
  • - male: It's been eye-opening.
  • 00:49:44.070 --> 00:49:47.070
  • - Ray: Do you now believe
  • 00:49:47.070 --> 00:49:48.070
  • in God's existence?
  • 00:49:48.070 --> 00:49:49.140
  • - male: Yes, I do.
  • 00:49:49.140 --> 00:49:50.210
  • - Ray: But have I given you
  • 00:49:50.210 --> 00:49:51.110
  • proof today that there is an
  • 00:49:51.110 --> 00:49:52.200
  • intelligent designer behind DNA?
  • 00:49:52.200 --> 00:49:54.210
  • - female: True.
  • 00:49:54.210 --> 00:49:55.170
  • Yeah, you did.
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  • - male: For lack of a better
  • 00:49:56.110 --> 00:49:57.260
  • word, yes, I am no longer
  • 00:49:57.260 --> 00:49:59.050
  • an atheist.
  • 00:49:59.050 --> 00:50:00.170
  • - male: I'm no longer
  • 00:50:00.170 --> 00:50:01.080
  • an atheist.
  • 00:50:01.080 --> 00:50:02.040
  • - Ray: Does this make sense?
  • 00:50:02.040 --> 00:50:03.030
  • - Andrew: Yeah.
  • 00:50:03.030 --> 00:50:04.240
  • - Ray: So Andrew, if you were
  • 00:50:04.240 --> 00:50:06.250
  • to die today and God gave you
  • 00:50:06.250 --> 00:50:08.000
  • justice, you'd end up in hell.
  • 00:50:08.000 --> 00:50:08.280
  • There are two things you have
  • 00:50:08.280 --> 00:50:10.000
  • to do to be saved: you've got
  • 00:50:10.000 --> 00:50:11.080
  • to repent and trust in Jesus.
  • 00:50:11.080 --> 00:50:13.020
  • When are you gonna do that?
  • 00:50:14.140 --> 00:50:17.140
  • - Andrew: As soon as
  • 00:50:17.140 --> 00:50:19.210
  • I have a strong firm belief
  • 00:50:20.110 --> 00:50:23.110
  • and I'm ready to adhere to
  • 00:50:23.110 --> 00:50:26.090
  • what God would like me to do.
  • 00:50:26.150 --> 00:50:29.150
  • - Ray: Does this make sense?
  • 00:50:29.150 --> 00:50:31.050
  • - Andrew: Very much, yeah.
  • 00:50:31.050 --> 00:50:32.170
  • - male: yes, it does.
  • 00:50:32.170 --> 00:50:33.060
  • - male: Yes.
  • 00:50:33.060 --> 00:50:33.290
  • - female: Yes, it does.
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  • - male: Yeah.
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  • - female: Yeah.
  • 00:50:35.180 --> 00:50:36.240
  • - Ray: Gonna think about this?
  • 00:50:36.240 --> 00:50:38.190
  • - female: Yeah, I'll think
  • 00:50:38.190 --> 00:50:39.090
  • about it.
  • 00:50:39.090 --> 00:50:39.270
  • - Ray: You gonna think about
  • 00:50:39.270 --> 00:50:40.180
  • this?
  • 00:50:40.180 --> 00:50:41.010
  • - Andrew: Yeah, definitely,
  • 00:50:41.010 --> 00:50:41.210
  • yeah.
  • 00:50:41.210 --> 00:50:42.100
  • It was really informative.
  • 00:50:42.100 --> 00:50:43.130
  • Thank you, yeah.
  • 00:50:43.130 --> 00:50:44.150
  • - Ray: You gonna think
  • 00:50:44.150 --> 00:50:45.100
  • about this?
  • 00:50:45.100 --> 00:50:46.110
  • - male: I definitely will.
  • 00:50:46.110 --> 00:50:48.030
  • - Ray: Has this made you
  • 00:50:48.030 --> 00:50:49.030
  • think today?
  • 00:50:49.030 --> 00:50:50.030
  • - female: It definitely has.
  • 00:50:50.030 --> 00:50:51.030
  • It definitely has.
  • 00:50:51.030 --> 00:50:52.080
  • - Richard: I'm glad to talk
  • 00:50:52.080 --> 00:50:53.040
  • with you because you're--
  • 00:50:53.040 --> 00:50:54.150
  • I think--I'm sure you're a lot
  • 00:50:54.150 --> 00:50:55.200
  • more intelligent, or somewhat
  • 00:50:55.200 --> 00:50:56.250
  • more than the average person
  • 00:50:56.250 --> 00:50:58.160
  • I talk to about religion.
  • 00:50:58.160 --> 00:51:00.110
  • - Ray: You gonna get
  • 00:51:00.110 --> 00:51:00.290
  • right with God today,
  • 00:51:00.290 --> 00:51:01.180
  • is that what you're saying?
  • 00:51:01.180 --> 00:51:02.130
  • - male: Yeah.
  • 00:51:02.130 --> 00:51:03.210
  • - Ray: So you come to the Lord,
  • 00:51:03.210 --> 00:51:04.240
  • just apologize for your sins,
  • 00:51:04.240 --> 00:51:06.000
  • put your faith in Jesus,
  • 00:51:06.000 --> 00:51:07.100
  • and then pick up that Bible
  • 00:51:07.100 --> 00:51:09.120
  • and read it daily and obey it.
  • 00:51:09.120 --> 00:51:11.100
  • And God will never let you down,
  • 00:51:11.100 --> 00:51:12.090
  • man.
  • 00:51:12.090 --> 00:51:13.070
  • - Ray: This is more serious
  • 00:51:13.070 --> 00:51:15.130
  • than a heart attack.
  • 00:51:15.130 --> 00:51:16.280
  • So today, would be the day.
  • 00:51:16.280 --> 00:51:18.250
  • And please don't feel
  • 00:51:18.250 --> 00:51:19.230
  • pressured by me.
  • 00:51:19.230 --> 00:51:21.010
  • It's your life and it's your
  • 00:51:21.010 --> 00:51:23.200
  • will but it's just a matter of
  • 00:51:23.200 --> 00:51:25.100
  • saying, "God, you gave me life.
  • 00:51:25.100 --> 00:51:26.280
  • You gifted me life.
  • 00:51:26.280 --> 00:51:27.190
  • I've used your name
  • 00:51:27.190 --> 00:51:28.090
  • as a cuss word.
  • 00:51:28.090 --> 00:51:29.050
  • I've sinned against you.
  • 00:51:29.050 --> 00:51:29.290
  • I've violated your commandments.
  • 00:51:29.290 --> 00:51:31.090
  • Please forgive me and transform
  • 00:51:31.090 --> 00:51:32.150
  • me and grant me
  • 00:51:32.200 --> 00:51:35.200
  • the gift of everlasting life."
  • 00:51:35.200 --> 00:51:36.190
  • It's got to come
  • 00:51:36.190 --> 00:51:37.120
  • from your heart.
  • 00:51:37.120 --> 00:51:38.150
  • I can't pressure you.
  • 00:51:38.150 --> 00:51:39.100
  • Does that make sense?
  • 00:51:39.100 --> 00:51:40.010
  • - female: Yes.
  • 00:51:40.010 --> 00:51:40.270
  • - Ray: When are you gonna
  • 00:51:40.270 --> 00:51:41.170
  • do that?
  • 00:51:41.170 --> 00:51:43.190
  • - male: Almost immediately.
  • 00:51:43.190 --> 00:51:45.060
  • - Ray: You serious?
  • 00:51:45.060 --> 00:51:46.130
  • - male: Yeah, I'm serious.
  • 00:51:46.130 --> 00:51:48.060
  • - Ray: Do you realize
  • 00:51:48.060 --> 00:51:48.230
  • what you're doing?
  • 00:51:48.230 --> 00:51:49.120
  • You're giving up your will.
  • 00:51:49.120 --> 00:51:50.160
  • You're saying, "Not my will,
  • 00:51:50.160 --> 00:51:51.130
  • but yours be done.
  • 00:51:51.130 --> 00:51:52.090
  • You gave me life.
  • 00:51:52.090 --> 00:51:53.020
  • I've sinned against you.
  • 00:51:53.020 --> 00:51:54.000
  • Please forgive me,
  • 00:51:54.000 --> 00:51:54.230
  • and I yield my life to you."
  • 00:51:54.230 --> 00:51:56.220
  • - Ray: Things are gonna change
  • 00:51:56.220 --> 00:51:57.140
  • from now on?
  • 00:51:57.140 --> 00:51:58.100
  • - male: Yeah.
  • 00:51:58.100 --> 00:51:59.030
  • - Ray: You serious?
  • 00:51:59.030 --> 00:51:59.250
  • - male: I'm serious.
  • 00:51:59.250 --> 00:52:00.190
  • - male: I will take a closer
  • 00:52:00.190 --> 00:52:01.110
  • look at God.
  • 00:52:01.110 --> 00:52:04.080
  • - Ray: You really mean that
  • 00:52:04.080 --> 00:52:05.100
  • you're repenting of your sins
  • 00:52:05.100 --> 00:52:06.040
  • and trusting alone in Christ?
  • 00:52:06.040 --> 00:52:08.070
  • - male: Yes, I am.
  • 00:52:08.070 --> 00:52:09.240
  • I would like to go to
  • 00:52:09.240 --> 00:52:10.130
  • church, actually.
  • 00:52:10.130 --> 00:52:11.090
  • - Ray: So please think
  • 00:52:11.090 --> 00:52:11.270
  • about this.
  • 00:52:11.270 --> 00:52:12.140
  • Will you at least do that?
  • 00:52:12.140 --> 00:52:13.070
  • - male: Sure.
  • 00:52:13.070 --> 00:52:13.270
  • - Ray: Do you have access to
  • 00:52:13.270 --> 00:52:14.180
  • a bible?
  • 00:52:14.180 --> 00:52:15.130
  • - male: Yeah.
  • 00:52:15.130 --> 00:52:16.180
  • - Ray: You have over 20.000
  • 00:52:16.180 --> 00:52:17.150
  • on your phone.
  • 00:52:17.150 --> 00:52:18.140
  • Did you know that?
  • 00:52:18.140 --> 00:52:19.180
  • - male: That's a good
  • 00:52:19.180 --> 00:52:20.100
  • selection.
  • 00:52:20.100 --> 00:52:21.050
  • - Ray: So when are you gonna
  • 00:52:21.050 --> 00:52:21.260
  • get right with God?
  • 00:52:21.260 --> 00:52:23.120
  • - male: I guess as soon
  • 00:52:23.120 --> 00:52:24.250
  • as I can.
  • 00:52:24.250 --> 00:52:25.190
  • - Ray: You mean, like, today?
  • 00:52:25.190 --> 00:52:27.090
  • - male: Yes.
  • 00:52:27.090 --> 00:52:28.210
  • - Ray: You realize what
  • 00:52:28.210 --> 00:52:29.110
  • you're doing?
  • 00:52:29.110 --> 00:52:30.010
  • You're laying down your
  • 00:52:30.010 --> 00:52:30.290
  • will here and saying, "God, I'm
  • 00:52:30.290 --> 00:52:32.030
  • not gonna play the hypocrite.
  • 00:52:32.030 --> 00:52:33.140
  • I'm gonna repent of my sins
  • 00:52:33.140 --> 00:52:35.040
  • and trust alone in Christ."
  • 00:52:35.040 --> 00:52:36.150
  • You understand that?
  • 00:52:36.150 --> 00:52:38.130
  • - male: Yes.
  • 00:52:38.130 --> 00:52:39.050
  • - Ray: Can I pray with you?
  • 00:52:39.050 --> 00:52:40.170
  • - male: Of course.
  • 00:52:40.170 --> 00:52:42.060
  • - Ray: Father, I pray
  • 00:52:42.060 --> 00:52:42.270
  • for Augusto that
  • 00:52:42.270 --> 00:52:43.240
  • this day he'll truly
  • 00:52:43.240 --> 00:52:44.270
  • repent, be genuinely sorry for
  • 00:52:44.270 --> 00:52:47.020
  • his sins and trust in you
  • 00:52:47.020 --> 00:52:48.220
  • and pass from death to life
  • 00:52:48.220 --> 00:52:50.140
  • and pass from death to life
  • 00:52:50.140 --> 00:52:52.240
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  • - Ray: You can't help
  • 00:52:56.070 --> 00:52:59.070
  • but blink and breathe.
  • 00:52:59.070 --> 00:53:00.280
  • All these things are
  • 00:53:00.280 --> 00:53:01.140
  • set in motion by God,
  • 00:53:01.140 --> 00:53:03.030
  • shaped by your DNA.
  • 00:53:04.190 --> 00:53:07.190
  • Your height, the color of your
  • 00:53:07.190 --> 00:53:09.200
  • hair, the color of your eyes,
  • 00:53:09.200 --> 00:53:11.170
  • your personality, were
  • 00:53:11.170 --> 00:53:12.200
  • all written in the instruction
  • 00:53:12.200 --> 00:53:13.280
  • book of life the moment
  • 00:53:13.280 --> 00:53:15.190
  • you were conceived.
  • 00:53:15.190 --> 00:53:18.190
  • - Ray: Nearly 3.000 years ago,
  • 00:53:18.190 --> 00:53:21.000
  • the Psalmist wrote that when he
  • 00:53:21.000 --> 00:53:22.040
  • was conceived in his mother's
  • 00:53:22.040 --> 00:53:23.170
  • womb, before he was even formed,
  • 00:53:23.170 --> 00:53:26.070
  • every part of his very substance
  • 00:53:26.070 --> 00:53:29.040
  • was written in a special book:
  • 00:53:30.280 --> 00:53:33.280
  • "For you formed my inward parts;
  • 00:53:33.280 --> 00:53:36.020
  • you covered me in my mother's
  • 00:53:36.020 --> 00:53:37.130
  • womb.
  • 00:53:37.130 --> 00:53:38.030
  • I will praise you, for I am
  • 00:53:38.030 --> 00:53:39.200
  • fearfully and wonderfully made;
  • 00:53:39.200 --> 00:53:42.060
  • marvelous are your works.
  • 00:53:42.060 --> 00:53:44.240
  • Your eyes saw my substance,
  • 00:53:44.240 --> 00:53:46.190
  • being yet unformed.
  • 00:53:46.190 --> 00:53:49.070
  • And in your book
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  • And in your book
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  • - Matt: Ray Comfort,
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  • "The Atheist Delusion."
  • 00:54:02.280 --> 00:54:05.250
  • This entire production
  • 00:54:05.250 --> 00:54:08.230
  • brought to us by Ray Comfort.
  • 00:54:09.110 --> 00:54:12.110
  • Thank you for doing this.
  • 00:54:12.110 --> 00:54:14.090
  • Your final thoughts as the movie
  • 00:54:14.090 --> 00:54:16.010
  • has just ended.
  • 00:54:16.010 --> 00:54:16.260
  • Your kind of final thoughts
  • 00:54:16.260 --> 00:54:17.220
  • on today's broadcast.
  • 00:54:17.220 --> 00:54:19.210
  • - Ray: My heart's desire is to
  • 00:54:19.210 --> 00:54:21.130
  • do what D.L. Moody said.
  • 00:54:21.130 --> 00:54:23.010
  • He said, "I'd rather set 1.000
  • 00:54:23.010 --> 00:54:23.220
  • to work than do the work of
  • 00:54:23.220 --> 00:54:25.120
  • 1.000."
  • 00:54:25.120 --> 00:54:26.260
  • And it's my heart for the church
  • 00:54:26.260 --> 00:54:28.060
  • to rise up as a mighty army
  • 00:54:28.060 --> 00:54:29.120
  • which is what it is, and reach
  • 00:54:29.120 --> 00:54:30.270
  • out to the lost.
  • 00:54:30.270 --> 00:54:33.000
  • And the hardest thing most
  • 00:54:33.000 --> 00:54:33.260
  • people find when it comes to
  • 00:54:33.260 --> 00:54:35.140
  • witnessing is the transition.
  • 00:54:35.140 --> 00:54:37.050
  • How do you bring up the subject
  • 00:54:37.050 --> 00:54:38.270
  • of the things of God with
  • 00:54:38.270 --> 00:54:40.220
  • a stranger?
  • 00:54:40.220 --> 00:54:41.120
  • Well, the way I do it is often
  • 00:54:41.120 --> 00:54:42.250
  • with gospel tracts.
  • 00:54:42.250 --> 00:54:43.230
  • I always carry tracts on me.
  • 00:54:43.230 --> 00:54:45.150
  • In fact, I've said for many
  • 00:54:45.150 --> 00:54:46.140
  • years, "If anyone finds me in
  • 00:54:46.140 --> 00:54:47.170
  • public without tracts, I'll give
  • 00:54:47.170 --> 00:54:48.270
  • them $1.000 on the spot," and no
  • 00:54:48.270 --> 00:54:51.110
  • one's ever found me in public
  • 00:54:51.110 --> 00:54:52.120
  • without tracts.
  • 00:54:52.120 --> 00:54:53.020
  • - Laurie: Have you got any
  • 00:54:53.020 --> 00:54:53.260
  • tracts?
  • 00:54:53.260 --> 00:54:54.160
  • - Ray: Yes, ma'am.
  • 00:54:54.160 --> 00:54:55.060
  • You owe me $1.000.
  • 00:54:55.060 --> 00:54:55.280
  • Someone saw me--someone saw me
  • 00:54:55.280 --> 00:54:58.210
  • in a swimming pool and went,
  • 00:54:58.210 --> 00:54:59.220
  • "Ah-ha!"
  • 00:54:59.220 --> 00:55:00.140
  • I went, "Ah-ha."
  • 00:55:00.140 --> 00:55:01.240
  • It'll never happen.
  • 00:55:01.240 --> 00:55:03.000
  • And it means I'm always ready to
  • 00:55:03.000 --> 00:55:05.190
  • give someone a gospel tract and
  • 00:55:05.190 --> 00:55:07.150
  • I keep my tracts in a $100
  • 00:55:07.150 --> 00:55:09.230
  • wallet.
  • 00:55:09.230 --> 00:55:10.250
  • And in the $100 wallet, are
  • 00:55:10.250 --> 00:55:13.040
  • million-dollar-bill tracts so it
  • 00:55:13.040 --> 00:55:14.150
  • always gets people's attention.
  • 00:55:14.150 --> 00:55:15.130
  • But the hardest thing is
  • 00:55:15.130 --> 00:55:16.280
  • bringing the subject up.
  • 00:55:16.280 --> 00:55:18.070
  • Tracts bring it up.
  • 00:55:18.070 --> 00:55:19.020
  • And I just say to people, you
  • 00:55:19.020 --> 00:55:20.190
  • know, after I find their name:
  • 00:55:20.190 --> 00:55:21.260
  • Fred.
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  • "Fred, do you think there's an
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  • afterlife?"
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  • And I haven't mentioned God,
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  • Jesus, the Bible, repentance,
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  • heaven, hell, Judgment Day.
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  • I've just asked for his opinion.
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  • "Fred, do you think there's
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  • an afterlife?"
  • 00:55:30.210 --> 00:55:32.000
  • And Fred will say something
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  • like this, and it happens
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  • all the time.
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  • "Boy, I don't know."
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  • "So do you think about it?"
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  • He says, "All the time."
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  • Suddenly, his "all the time"
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  • dissipates my fears.
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  • He's not the Antichrist.
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  • He's not out to kill me.
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  • He's an American.
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  • Eighty-seven percent of
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  • Americans want "under God" kept
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  • in the Pledge of Allegiance.
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  • They're not anti-God.
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  • That's just a small minority of
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  • atheists that are vocal.
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  • They're kind of like Chihuahuas,
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  • just yap, yap, yap.
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  • Very noisy but there's nothing
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  • much, you know, of substance to
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  • it.
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  • I'll say, "Fred, do you
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  • think there's an afterlife?
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  • So do you think heaven exists?"
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  • He says, "Maybe."
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  • "Are you going there?"
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  • He says, "I hope so."
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  • Once again, his "I hope so."
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  • His "Hope--my hope so--I hope
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  • so," gets rid of my fears.
  • 00:56:12.270 --> 00:56:14.270
  • And I say, "Well, let's see if
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  • you're gonna go there.
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  • Let's go through the Ten
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  • Commandments and see if you need
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  • a Savior.
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  • Have you lied or stolen?
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  • Have you looked with lust?
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  • Have you committed adultery,
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  • fornicated--phew, big trouble,
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  • Fred, Judgment Day.
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  • You're needing a Savior."
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  • You diagnose the disease before
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  • you give the cure.
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  • Modern evangelism in our
  • 00:56:28.240 --> 00:56:30.040
  • country is giving the cure.
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  • "You need Jesus,
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  • you need the gospel."
  • 00:56:32.060 --> 00:56:32.280
  • No, give them the disease first.
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  • Open up the commandments as
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  • Jesus did on the Sermon on the
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  • Show them what sin is,
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  • which is what the Lord does.
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  • Paul said, "I had not known sin
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  • but by the law."
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  • And once they realize,
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  • "Man, I'm in big trouble,"
  • 00:56:47.040 --> 00:56:48.000
  • you say, "Well, God's
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  • provided a Savior."
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  • And suddenly they realize
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  • the love of God.
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  • God just doesn't love them.
  • 00:56:53.080 --> 00:56:54.110
  • It's not just words.
  • 00:56:54.110 --> 00:56:55.020
  • They see it expressed
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  • in the cross.
  • 00:56:56.080 --> 00:56:56.280
  • The preaching of the cross is
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  • to them that perish foolishness.
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  • But once they understand
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  • that they have sinned, then
  • 00:57:03.020 --> 00:57:04.050
  • it doesn't become foolishness.
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  • Me paying a fine for you when
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  • you don't believe you've broken
  • 00:57:07.200 --> 00:57:09.000
  • the law just makes no sense
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  • at all.
  • 00:57:10.110 --> 00:57:11.010
  • But if I say,
  • 00:57:11.010 --> 00:57:11.210
  • "Hey, you've broken the law.
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  • The police are gonna put you
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  • in jail, there's a $10.000 fine
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  • you can't pay.
  • 00:57:15.250 --> 00:57:16.150
  • I'm gonna pay it for you,"
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  • you go, "Whoa, it makes sense.
  • 00:57:17.180 --> 00:57:20.040
  • Because I broke the law, I need
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  • that--the fine being paid."
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  • And so, practice what you
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  • preach, practice on your dog.
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  • Practice in the mirror.
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  • Practice in the shower.
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  • Practice wherever.
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  • Practice what you preach.
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  • Just get used to it.
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  • And if you mess up,
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  • doesn't matter.
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  • You'll get--pick up.
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  • That's how we learn to walk.
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  • You crawl, you bruise.
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  • Kids learn to--they learn
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  • about pain by falling over
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  • and they learn to be careful
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  • and that's what happens
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  • when you share your faith.
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  • - Matt: Let me shake your hand
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  • and say deoxyribonucleic acid.
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  • - Ray: [laughing]
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  • That's well said.
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  • - Matt: Ray, you're
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  • an amazing guy.
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  • Thank you for bringing
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  • us "Atheist Delusion."
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  • next time right here.
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