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September 26, 2019
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One on One with Kirk Cameron

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  • - I was starting to live like I didn't believe in God.
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  • I run Miss Kay off, I run the kids off.
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  • Getting drunk, smoking' dope,
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  • running and whoring around,
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  • So, if anyone had seen me,
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  • up 'till I was 28, they would've said,
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  • that guy is of the devil himself,
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  • that guy is up to no good.
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  • (upbeat music)
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  • - I'm Kirk Cameron,
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  • and I get to meet some pretty amazing people.
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  • These are people who totally inspire me
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  • with their hearts full of faith, character, and courage.
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  • They push their limits, they think outside the box,
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  • and bravely use their gifts and talents to bless others.
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  • And today, we get to spend some time One on One.
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  • (upbeat country music)
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  • As you can tell, we are not in California.
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  • We're actually in West Monroe, Louisiana.
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  • This place was made famous
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  • by several bearded men who make duck calls.
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  • Of course, I'm talking about the Duck Dynasty crew
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  • and today, I have the special privilege
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  • of spending some time with the Phil Robertson,
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  • the patriarch of the Duck Dynasty.
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  • Now Phil had a long-running show
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  • for all those years, Duck Dynasty.
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  • Now he has his own show called, In the Woods With Phil.
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  • I've been so excited about this
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  • and to be honest with you, I'm not even sure what to expect.
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  • Normally, I get to set up the activities
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  • and surprise my guests with something fun to do.
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  • But today, Phil has set everything up.
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  • I don't know what's coming, so let's go.
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  • - Ladies and gentlemen, I see a long figure coming,
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  • a man of slight stature.
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  • He has a flute tied to his back.
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  • - Phil, good to see you.
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  • - So you are coming out of California
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  • to get to this location.
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  • - Yeah, and I'm excited, I'm a little--
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  • I feel like a fish out of water here.
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  • This is not my normal element.
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  • - Well, you get used to it.
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  • Now down here, we started out.
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  • I said, Miss Kay,
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  • I want to go to the river.
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  • I'll fish it, I'll catch fish and sell them.
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  • We'll survive, I said, it'll be pretty tough,
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  • we'll eat a lot of fish.
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  • I said, but we'll survive and I said,
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  • I'll get this duck call going,
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  • and I said, good times will come your way.
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  • I said you'll have that long green in your pocket.
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  • She's looking at me, I said, what about it?
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  • She said, let's do it.
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  • We've been doing it for 40 years.
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  • - Let's do it.
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  • - Hey, let's go.
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  • We have this little puppy here for protection.
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  • - Good.
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  • - Just in case.
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  • - And we should be looking for snakes, maybe?
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  • - Oh yeah.
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  • That old cottonmouth may not bother us.
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  • Watch your step.
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  • Put that on.
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  • - [Kirk] Now, would people ever come
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  • and steal the fish out of your nets?
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  • - Very much so.
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  • At first,
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  • I would take a shotgun and I would threaten them
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  • and I would say, don't ever touch my nets again
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  • or I will kill ya.
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  • As I got older in the faith,
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  • I read that text in Romans 12.
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  • If your enemy is hungry, feed him.
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  • I'm like, Lord, they're stealing my fish,
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  • and you're saying, be good to them.
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  • But I thought, wait a minute,
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  • I've never tried being good
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  • to someone who was stealing from me.
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  • There were two guys right down here, about 100 yards,
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  • they were fixing to steal my fish.
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  • I ran straight at them and when I got up on them,
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  • they threw the net back in the river,
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  • you know, looking at me.
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  • I said, why you boys stealing' my fish?
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  • I said, I'm doing this for a living.
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  • You're taking tennis shoes and food off my table.
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  • I said, but you're in luck, because today,
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  • I'm gonna let you know you don't have to steal.
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  • I'll give 'em to you.
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  • - I bet their eyes were just like.
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  • - Their eyes were big.
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  • So I said, let's see what y'all were fixing to steal.
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  • So I raised the net up, had a lot of fish in it,
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  • and I said, pull your boat over here.
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  • And they're like, well no, we're just gonna leave,
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  • I said, no, come on over here.
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  • I said evidently we're having a fish fry
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  • and you didn't catch any, so you're stealing from me.
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  • I said, gentlemen,
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  • next time you need any fish, you don't have to steal them.
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  • Just come up there and say you're not catching anything
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  • and I'll give them to you.
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  • (Kirk laughs)
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  • - They were not expecting that.
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  • - The word spread up and down the river,
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  • that old guy, if you ask him for some fish,
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  • he'll give you some, you don't have to steal them.
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  • And they all quit stealing.
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  • - That's great. - I learned
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  • a valuable lesson there, just be good to them.
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  • Jesus said if they ask for your coat,
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  • give them the shirt off your back.
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  • Give it to them.
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  • I rock on and every time I look up,
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  • I'm being blessed more and more each day
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  • so I'm thinking, you know.
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  • - Yeah, that's right.
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  • You read principles like that,
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  • but when you hear the principle put into action
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  • in real life, in the real story, it just--
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  • - 'Cause think about it. - It makes it--
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  • - You're trying to tell me
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  • somebody's stealing from you
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  • and you're going to be good to them?
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  • I said, you ought to try it sometime.
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  • - It works. - It'll sure work.
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  • (upbeat country music)
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  • Puttering up a stream that the Almighty made.
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  • I don't see the downside, do you?
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  • - This is pretty nice, I like it.
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  • - Hey!
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  • - This is great, unless I see an alligator or a cottonmouth.
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  • - Which could happen at any time.
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  • - Ah, there we go.
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  • That was cool.
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  • Look at that, you got a turtle in there too.
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  • - Yeah.
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  • - I'm sorry, I get a little excited.
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  • I haven't seen this before.
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  • Back the way it was? - Yeah.
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  • - In neutral or forward?
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  • - Yeah, grab that net. - Yep.
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  • - Pull it up a little bit. (net scraping)
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  • - [Kirk] There's the cats of catfish.
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  • - And throw out the turtles.
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  • There, that's one catch.
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  • That's what you call eel cat.
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  • - I want the big one.
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  • - I was making probably $200 to $300 a week.
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  • You say, did y'all live well?
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  • Ate a lot of fish,
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  • the duck call has just taken off.
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  • First year in sales on duck calls,
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  • we sold $8.000 worth gross sales.
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  • I said Miss Kay, we're rolling!
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  • She said phew!
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  • I said, we'll keep catching them fish!
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  • So we're surviving, second year,
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  • 13.5 gross sales, said we're moving up.
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  • Third year, $22.000.
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  • I said getting bigger all the time.
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  • $37.000.
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  • Now, listen to this, 60--
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  • Now I'm in year five or six now,
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  • we got up there finally.
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  • We said, whoa Nellie, we've hit the, the six figure mark.
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  • We're gonna sell over a hundred thousand dollars worth,
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  • well that's about a decade.
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  • By the time 2014
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  • got there,
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  • they said come up here and sign
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  • your one millionth duck call.
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  • - One million duck calls. - In one year.
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  • - In one year.
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  • - One million in one year! - Wow!
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  • - Faith in God, capitalism, and hard work,
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  • you can go anywhere in America, I proved that.
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  • I mean. (Phil laughing)
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  • - But you know, I love that
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  • you still live in the same house,
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  • you still live on the same lands,
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  • still love to do the same things
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  • that you always did.
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  • - Somebody says, you gonna build a big house?
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  • I said, why?
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  • I raised four sons, Cameron.
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  • My children eventually got married
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  • and had their own children.
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  • They all came to me and they said,
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  • Dad, we appreciate how you raised us,
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  • and how you loved Miss Kay, our mother,
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  • and your discipline system.
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  • They said because now,
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  • since we have children, we get it now.
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  • I said I was preparing you for that.
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  • - Yep. - I knew one day
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  • you would have children. - That's right.
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  • - So they all thanked me. - It's so peaceful.
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  • That's what I was gonna say.
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  • - Peace of mind, Cameron, is the rarest of commodities,
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  • hard to find on Planet Earth. - Yeah.
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  • Without God, impossible.
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  • - Well, let's try another one.
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  • (upbeat country music)
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  • See, you can tell how the river
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  • gets way up over that edge? - Yeah, look at that.
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  • You can tell it's-- - Oh, yeah.
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  • - They're all blues.
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  • - Ooh, look at that one.
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  • (fish flopping)
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  • - [Phil] Ooh yeah, look at those.
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  • - Look at that thing.
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  • Look at this.
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  • (fish flopping)
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  • - This is the better eating.
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  • - You just, you just wanna drain the blood
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  • because-- - Drain blood,
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  • roll them in the yellow cornmeal,
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  • fry them in peanut oil,
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  • we can make a good meal off of that.
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  • All it took us was the time to come up here and get them.
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  • - [Kirk] Yep.
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  • - [Phil] Think about it.
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  • (boat engine revs) (exciting country music)
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  • (talking drowned out by boat engine)
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  • (soothing flute music)
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  • - That's the best rendition of that song I've ever heard.
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  • That's pretty cool there, Cameron.
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  • - I'm glad you like it.
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  • - Hey, kudos to Hollywood.
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  • Every once in a while,
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  • you find something good coming out of California,
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  • I got one in front of the boat.
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  • (Kirk laughs - I'll take it!
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  • (fun flute music)
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  • - Here comes your head off.
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  • Take his entrails out and get that fin out
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  • so it won't get you. - You're taking his shirt off.
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  • - Taking his shirt off.
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  • Turn him over, you got a triangle here, take that off.
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  • Ready to eat.
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  • Last two.
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  • - Break the neck, pull the head off,
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  • pull out the entrails, slice open the belly.
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  • Nothing to it.
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  • - That'll feed you and I right there.
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  • So there's your filet you'll eat.
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  • And that one, I'll just meal him
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  • and fry him like that.
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  • That's all ribcage but you can,
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  • you can take this meat--
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  • - And just sort of gnaw on the ribs.
  • 00:11:25.270 --> 00:11:27.120
  • - Gnaw on the ribs.
  • 00:11:27.130 --> 00:11:29.000
  • - Does anybody ever do anything with these heads?
  • 00:11:30.130 --> 00:11:31.290
  • - You can make soup out of them, catfish courtbouillon.
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  • They say there's no God, some of them,
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  • so I've got ducks dropping out of the heavens,
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  • they're at 5.000 feet,
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  • they're moving 75, 80 miles an hour, coming across the sky.
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  • He's a plane, I'm looking up at him.
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  • He cups up his wings, starts descending.
  • 00:11:50.170 --> 00:11:53.150
  • They all light on the water in front of ya.
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  • He's a boat now, floating along.
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  • He dives down to get his food,
  • 00:11:57.110 --> 00:11:59.210
  • now he's a submarine.
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  • He's a jet, he's a boat, he's a submarine,
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  • all within five minutes of each other.
  • 00:12:05.130 --> 00:12:07.170
  • Start there and you begin to say--
  • 00:12:07.180 --> 00:12:10.030
  • - There's a designer behind this.
  • 00:12:10.040 --> 00:12:12.000
  • - The same one that built the jet,
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  • the boat, and the submarine, a bird, a duck, made us.
  • 00:12:14.100 --> 00:12:17.290
  • I'm like, that I understand.
  • 00:12:18.000 --> 00:12:20.280
  • Are you good with saltwater?
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  • Even as a heathen, I said I don't know guys,
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  • that's, that's pretty-- - That's a long shot.
  • 00:12:26.010 --> 00:12:28.020
  • - That's a long shot, that's a stretch there.
  • 00:12:28.030 --> 00:12:29.110
  • - Yeah.
  • 00:12:29.120 --> 00:12:30.060
  • - So there's our dinner.
  • 00:12:30.070 --> 00:12:31.190
  • - I'll go for the boneless, you gnaw on the back.
  • 00:12:31.200 --> 00:12:33.220
  • - Okay.
  • 00:12:33.230 --> 00:12:34.290
  • - And you show me how you do that.
  • 00:12:35.000 --> 00:12:36.080
  • - I'll even gnaw on parts. - All right.
  • 00:12:36.090 --> 00:12:37.180
  • - All right, we ready down here?
  • 00:12:37.190 --> 00:12:40.020
  • (uplifting country music)
  • 00:12:40.030 --> 00:12:44.060
  • All right, y'all ready?
  • 00:12:44.070 --> 00:12:45.100
  • I got a little sea salt.
  • 00:12:45.110 --> 00:12:47.000
  • - Got it, sea salt.
  • 00:12:47.010 --> 00:12:48.170
  • - A little sea salt.
  • 00:12:48.180 --> 00:12:50.080
  • - All right.
  • 00:12:50.090 --> 00:12:51.240
  • - A little black pepper, it ain't coming out real good.
  • 00:12:51.250 --> 00:12:53.280
  • Looking pretty good.
  • 00:12:53.290 --> 00:12:56.080
  • - All right. - Look here.
  • 00:12:56.090 --> 00:12:57.260
  • You've got your fish,
  • 00:12:57.270 --> 00:12:58.290
  • roll him around.
  • 00:13:00.270 --> 00:13:02.090
  • - Now that's cornmeal.
  • 00:13:02.100 --> 00:13:03.160
  • - Yep, yellow cornmeal.
  • 00:13:03.170 --> 00:13:05.000
  • And the Indians ate this corn every way you can fix it
  • 00:13:05.010 --> 00:13:07.120
  • so you got the flute going,
  • 00:13:07.130 --> 00:13:09.050
  • you're going back to your roots here.
  • 00:13:09.060 --> 00:13:10.240
  • - (Kirk laughs) That's right.
  • 00:13:10.250 --> 00:13:11.260
  • - Think about it.
  • 00:13:11.270 --> 00:13:13.070
  • Here comes the filet.
  • 00:13:13.080 --> 00:13:15.000
  • - That looks good.
  • 00:13:15.010 --> 00:13:16.210
  • - Pretty good meal, right out of the river.
  • 00:13:16.220 --> 00:13:18.240
  • - Right out of the river. - Hey.
  • 00:13:18.250 --> 00:13:20.110
  • - Don't need to go to a restaurant for this.
  • 00:13:20.120 --> 00:13:21.250
  • - We have dinner going.
  • 00:13:21.260 --> 00:13:23.000
  • - Why does it always taste better
  • 00:13:23.010 --> 00:13:24.110
  • when you catch it yourself?
  • 00:13:24.120 --> 00:13:25.290
  • - Because it's fresh.
  • 00:13:26.000 --> 00:13:27.070
  • There's no going from here to the ice chest
  • 00:13:27.080 --> 00:13:29.040
  • to the market to the, the house.
  • 00:13:29.050 --> 00:13:31.180
  • - How long's this take?
  • 00:13:31.190 --> 00:13:32.280
  • - Four or five minutes.
  • 00:13:32.290 --> 00:13:34.030
  • Over the past 40 years, thousands of fish fries.
  • 00:13:35.090 --> 00:13:39.190
  • - Yeah, I bet.
  • 00:13:39.200 --> 00:13:40.270
  • - The brothers and sisters gather up.
  • 00:13:40.280 --> 00:13:42.250
  • You got Romans 12, in view of God's mercy,
  • 00:13:42.260 --> 00:13:47.170
  • He looked down upon the human race that he made and said,
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  • what you can't do, live perfectly,
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  • I'm gonna send Jesus to do that for you.
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  • Perfect sacrifice, innocent.
  • 00:13:57.290 --> 00:14:00.220
  • His blood will remove your sin
  • 00:14:00.230 --> 00:14:02.160
  • and I'll raise you from the dead.
  • 00:14:03.210 --> 00:14:05.140
  • In view of that, offer your bodies
  • 00:14:05.150 --> 00:14:09.070
  • as living sacrifices,
  • 00:14:09.080 --> 00:14:12.190
  • holy and pleasing to God.
  • 00:14:12.200 --> 00:14:14.140
  • Listen, which is your spiritual act of worship,
  • 00:14:14.150 --> 00:14:19.040
  • surrounding these catfish that the Almighty provided,
  • 00:14:19.050 --> 00:14:22.160
  • we are worshiping God.
  • 00:14:22.170 --> 00:14:23.220
  • We're not operating like the world does.
  • 00:14:24.280 --> 00:14:27.210
  • They can say what they will,
  • 00:14:27.220 --> 00:14:29.190
  • that's just a pretty good way to roll.
  • 00:14:29.200 --> 00:14:31.150
  • There they are.
  • 00:14:32.180 --> 00:14:33.140
  • Soon as you get those hot, you dust that a little bit.
  • 00:14:34.270 --> 00:14:38.220
  • - Look at that.
  • 00:14:41.110 --> 00:14:42.160
  • - Father, for my brother and myself,
  • 00:14:42.170 --> 00:14:43.220
  • we appreciate the food you have provided.
  • 00:14:43.230 --> 00:14:45.260
  • We love you, thank you for loving us.
  • 00:14:45.270 --> 00:14:48.060
  • Thank you for giving us hope beyond the grave.
  • 00:14:48.070 --> 00:14:51.130
  • Thank you for removing all of our rotten, filthy deeds.
  • 00:14:51.140 --> 00:14:54.110
  • I pray, Father, we glorify in everything we do.
  • 00:14:54.120 --> 00:14:57.040
  • Thank you for these good fish.
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  • In the name of Jesus, amen.
  • 00:14:58.120 --> 00:15:00.060
  • - Amen.
  • 00:15:00.070 --> 00:15:01.060
  • - And dig in.
  • 00:15:01.070 --> 00:15:02.120
  • (exciting country music)
  • 00:15:02.130 --> 00:15:05.080
  • - Pretty good!
  • 00:15:05.090 --> 00:15:06.150
  • Filet catfish right out of the river.
  • 00:15:06.160 --> 00:15:07.140
  • (Kirk moans appreciatively) - That is fresh!
  • 00:15:08.220 --> 00:15:10.100
  • - I know all you folks wonder what we're doing down here.
  • 00:15:11.230 --> 00:15:13.190
  • This is what we're doing, eating fresh catfish this morning.
  • 00:15:13.200 --> 00:15:18.040
  • You got a good woman over there in California?
  • 00:15:18.050 --> 00:15:19.200
  • - I got a great woman in California.
  • 00:15:19.210 --> 00:15:20.290
  • - Can the woman cook?
  • 00:15:21.000 --> 00:15:22.070
  • - She can cook. - Hey!
  • 00:15:22.080 --> 00:15:23.140
  • - She's Italian so she cooks - Italian?
  • 00:15:23.150 --> 00:15:25.170
  • - lasagna-- - Pretty good gene pool
  • 00:15:25.180 --> 00:15:27.030
  • to dip into there.
  • 00:15:27.040 --> 00:15:28.020
  • - Yeah.
  • 00:15:28.030 --> 00:15:29.090
  • Phil, I brought something for ya.
  • 00:15:29.100 --> 00:15:30.030
  • - You brought something?
  • 00:15:30.040 --> 00:15:31.180
  • You remember that movie I made called Monumental?
  • 00:15:31.190 --> 00:15:34.170
  • - Yeah.
  • 00:15:34.180 --> 00:15:35.130
  • - This is--
  • 00:15:37.250 --> 00:15:38.240
  • - That is cool.
  • 00:15:38.250 --> 00:15:40.040
  • - That is the monument.
  • 00:15:40.050 --> 00:15:41.260
  • Five statues, four here, the largest one is faith.
  • 00:15:41.270 --> 00:15:44.290
  • - That says a lot.
  • 00:15:45.000 --> 00:15:46.210
  • - In your opinion, if you and I could start
  • 00:15:46.220 --> 00:15:49.100
  • to fix what's wrong in America,
  • 00:15:49.110 --> 00:15:52.110
  • where would we start?
  • 00:15:52.120 --> 00:15:54.090
  • - The same place they did, with faith.
  • 00:15:54.100 --> 00:15:57.030
  • Faith comes from hearing the message.
  • 00:15:57.040 --> 00:15:59.040
  • The message is heard through the word of Christ.
  • 00:16:00.160 --> 00:16:02.200
  • Without faith, one cannot believe in God.
  • 00:16:03.240 --> 00:16:06.280
  • Without faith, it's impossible to please God.
  • 00:16:06.290 --> 00:16:11.210
  • For anyone who comes to Him must believe that he exists
  • 00:16:11.220 --> 00:16:16.100
  • and He rewards those who earnestly seek Him.
  • 00:16:17.140 --> 00:16:21.130
  • So I would start right there and say,
  • 00:16:21.140 --> 00:16:22.280
  • let me tell you a story.
  • 00:16:22.290 --> 00:16:24.050
  • It'd be the story of Jesus.
  • 00:16:25.030 --> 00:16:26.190
  • - Phil, before you were the Duck Commander,
  • 00:16:26.200 --> 00:16:30.140
  • - Yep.
  • 00:16:30.150 --> 00:16:31.210
  • - before you were an entrepreneur,
  • 00:16:31.220 --> 00:16:32.190
  • a businessman, a guy on TV,
  • 00:16:32.200 --> 00:16:34.260
  • what were you like as a young man?
  • 00:16:34.270 --> 00:16:35.290
  • - I was a heathen.
  • 00:16:36.000 --> 00:16:37.010
  • - Were you a heathen?
  • 00:16:37.020 --> 00:16:37.260
  • - Well, oh, yeah.
  • 00:16:37.270 --> 00:16:39.050
  • I went to church but unfortunately,
  • 00:16:39.060 --> 00:16:42.120
  • the term
  • 00:16:42.130 --> 00:16:43.100
  • going to church is not in the Bible.
  • 00:16:44.160 --> 00:16:48.050
  • You think about it, without God,
  • 00:16:48.060 --> 00:16:50.220
  • Cameron, there is no hope.
  • 00:16:50.230 --> 00:16:52.230
  • - And as a young man, you didn't have that hope,
  • 00:16:52.240 --> 00:16:54.280
  • you, you-- - Didn't have it.
  • 00:16:54.290 --> 00:16:56.130
  • - You went to church but you didn't have that hope?
  • 00:16:56.140 --> 00:16:57.210
  • - Nope.
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  • I got in college, you're like,
  • 00:16:58.200 --> 00:17:01.160
  • did you ever hear anyone speak kindly
  • 00:17:01.170 --> 00:17:05.010
  • of the Father, Son, or the Holy Spirit
  • 00:17:05.020 --> 00:17:07.170
  • your entire college career?
  • 00:17:07.180 --> 00:17:09.150
  • Not one
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  • kind word,
  • 00:17:12.200 --> 00:17:14.060
  • not one.
  • 00:17:14.070 --> 00:17:15.160
  • I came out, at best at agnostic.
  • 00:17:15.170 --> 00:17:18.130
  • If anyone had seen me up till I was 28,
  • 00:17:18.140 --> 00:17:22.020
  • they would have said, that guy is of the devil himself.
  • 00:17:22.030 --> 00:17:25.250
  • That guy's up to no good.
  • 00:17:25.260 --> 00:17:27.150
  • I never had heard the gospel.
  • 00:17:27.160 --> 00:17:29.110
  • So, when I heard it, let me get this right.
  • 00:17:30.160 --> 00:17:34.100
  • All of my sins gonna be removed
  • 00:17:34.110 --> 00:17:36.050
  • and it's all on God, he's the one that did it.
  • 00:17:36.060 --> 00:17:38.170
  • I'm not good enough to earn it,
  • 00:17:38.180 --> 00:17:39.250
  • I've already proven that.
  • 00:17:39.260 --> 00:17:41.080
  • Free of charge, resurrected body from the ground,
  • 00:17:41.090 --> 00:17:45.050
  • constant mediating work while we're here,
  • 00:17:45.060 --> 00:17:47.110
  • when we make mistakes, not counted against you,
  • 00:17:47.120 --> 00:17:50.230
  • the blood continually cleansing us.
  • 00:17:50.240 --> 00:17:53.020
  • Be the salt and the light of the world,
  • 00:17:53.270 --> 00:17:55.190
  • most people are not coming to church buildings
  • 00:17:55.200 --> 00:17:57.170
  • and say, what's going on here?
  • 00:17:57.180 --> 00:17:59.050
  • Not this culture. - Yeah.
  • 00:17:59.060 --> 00:18:00.190
  • - We're gonna have to be--
  • 00:18:00.200 --> 00:18:02.010
  • When they see us, Cameron, the way we roll,
  • 00:18:02.020 --> 00:18:06.150
  • we're gonna have to impact them for good
  • 00:18:06.160 --> 00:18:08.140
  • or they're not gonna change.
  • 00:18:08.150 --> 00:18:09.270
  • we've renounced that, see what I'm saying?
  • 00:18:12.130 --> 00:18:14.220
  • - I hear just what you're saying.
  • 00:18:14.230 --> 00:18:16.080
  • Phil, you've--
  • 00:18:16.090 --> 00:18:17.040
  • It's amazing what different worlds we come from.
  • 00:18:18.140 --> 00:18:20.030
  • I come from Hollywood, California
  • 00:18:20.040 --> 00:18:21.270
  • and you're in the Louisiana woods,
  • 00:18:21.280 --> 00:18:24.280
  • but we have things in common.
  • 00:18:24.290 --> 00:18:26.020
  • We love this country, we appreciate
  • 00:18:26.030 --> 00:18:28.000
  • and we value the principles upon which it is founded.
  • 00:18:28.010 --> 00:18:31.100
  • - Hollywood meets redneck.
  • 00:18:31.110 --> 00:18:33.230
  • - We have a meal! (Phil laughing)
  • 00:18:33.240 --> 00:18:36.000
  • We have a great time.
  • 00:18:36.010 --> 00:18:37.140
  • But now, now, we have something else in common.
  • 00:18:37.150 --> 00:18:39.030
  • You've raised four boys, I'm raising three boys
  • 00:18:39.040 --> 00:18:41.230
  • and your boys are grown, mine are getting there.
  • 00:18:41.240 --> 00:18:45.120
  • What would you say is wrong with parenting today,
  • 00:18:45.130 --> 00:18:48.230
  • in your opinion?
  • 00:18:48.240 --> 00:18:50.040
  • - All Scripture is God breathed
  • 00:18:50.050 --> 00:18:52.100
  • and is useful for teaching, rebuking,
  • 00:18:53.260 --> 00:18:57.290
  • take the Scriptures and teach them.
  • 00:18:59.040 --> 00:19:00.260
  • Take the Scriptures and rebuke them.
  • 00:19:00.270 --> 00:19:02.260
  • Nope, you're going in the wrong direction,
  • 00:19:02.270 --> 00:19:05.030
  • they're about 10, or they're five,
  • 00:19:05.040 --> 00:19:07.040
  • you say nope, come back here.
  • 00:19:07.050 --> 00:19:09.140
  • That gets out of whack, you end up
  • 00:19:10.190 --> 00:19:12.230
  • with what you now have.
  • 00:19:12.240 --> 00:19:14.170
  • If you keep that in front of them all the time,
  • 00:19:14.180 --> 00:19:17.050
  • they won't depart from you.
  • 00:19:17.060 --> 00:19:18.240
  • All mine, faithful Godly men,
  • 00:19:18.250 --> 00:19:21.050
  • they got their wives and all their little kids, you know?
  • 00:19:21.060 --> 00:19:24.030
  • Now, they're training their children how I trained them so.
  • 00:19:24.040 --> 00:19:28.190
  • And you need to keep it and that way it becomes generational
  • 00:19:28.200 --> 00:19:31.120
  • and you don't lose it in one generation.
  • 00:19:31.130 --> 00:19:34.060
  • I was a product of the sixties,
  • 00:19:35.030 --> 00:19:37.200
  • unfortunately for me, you join the crowd.
  • 00:19:37.210 --> 00:19:40.210
  • Oh, I joined them.
  • 00:19:40.220 --> 00:19:42.080
  • At 28, put on my brakes and said wait a minute.
  • 00:19:42.090 --> 00:19:45.130
  • I run Miss Kay off, I run the kids off,
  • 00:19:47.000 --> 00:19:49.280
  • getting drunk, I said, smoking dope,
  • 00:19:49.290 --> 00:19:52.040
  • running and whoring around, I'm like--
  • 00:19:52.050 --> 00:19:54.190
  • I never had heard the gospel,
  • 00:19:54.200 --> 00:19:56.150
  • so therefore I did not think it worthwhile until I was 28.
  • 00:19:56.160 --> 00:20:01.130
  • - Phil, if you could go back
  • 00:20:02.090 --> 00:20:03.000
  • and speak to the 20-year old version of yourself,
  • 00:20:04.060 --> 00:20:06.280
  • what advice would you give Phil Robertson?
  • 00:20:06.290 --> 00:20:09.020
  • - Now, all the ones we work with in the rehabs,
  • 00:20:10.080 --> 00:20:15.080
  • the prisons, when I'm seeing these 20-year olds,
  • 00:20:16.200 --> 00:20:19.080
  • it is a tough call for me to say,
  • 00:20:20.120 --> 00:20:23.080
  • I've been down the road you're currently on,
  • 00:20:24.120 --> 00:20:27.100
  • I've been on that road.
  • 00:20:27.110 --> 00:20:30.080
  • It's a road that leads to nowhere.
  • 00:20:30.090 --> 00:20:32.180
  • My own nephew, tried to steer him in the right direction.
  • 00:20:32.190 --> 00:20:37.190
  • I told him look,
  • 00:20:38.070 --> 00:20:38.210
  • two roads, one's wide and one's narrow.
  • 00:20:40.010 --> 00:20:43.070
  • The narrow road is way, way better, you'll have hope.
  • 00:20:43.080 --> 00:20:46.250
  • I said, these drugs are not gonna do it, man,
  • 00:20:46.260 --> 00:20:49.230
  • they're not gonna do it. - Yeah.
  • 00:20:49.240 --> 00:20:51.070
  • - He literally hanged himself in his jail cell.
  • 00:20:51.080 --> 00:20:54.100
  • - Wow.
  • 00:20:54.110 --> 00:20:55.230
  • - So we attended that funeral, so I've seen it happen
  • 00:20:55.240 --> 00:20:58.160
  • within my own kinfolks.
  • 00:20:58.170 --> 00:20:59.280
  • Well, all those 20-year olds you're talking about,
  • 00:21:01.130 --> 00:21:03.130
  • it's a tough sale to get them to turn, very tough.
  • 00:21:03.140 --> 00:21:07.260
  • We continue to try and for everyone
  • 00:21:07.270 --> 00:21:09.260
  • that makes it out of there, we're like whoo!
  • 00:21:09.270 --> 00:21:12.280
  • That one there made it! - Yeah.
  • 00:21:12.290 --> 00:21:14.220
  • - But most of them, they're slave to the flesh
  • 00:21:14.230 --> 00:21:18.120
  • and you can't get them off of it.
  • 00:21:18.130 --> 00:21:19.250
  • - I think it's a challenge to grow up anywhere,
  • 00:21:19.260 --> 00:21:22.010
  • whether you're out here in Louisiana
  • 00:21:22.020 --> 00:21:23.230
  • and you could have the appearance of religion out here
  • 00:21:23.240 --> 00:21:27.110
  • because you got a church on every corner,
  • 00:21:27.120 --> 00:21:28.260
  • or you could be in a place like Hollywood, California,
  • 00:21:28.270 --> 00:21:31.280
  • the place that generates a lot of trash
  • 00:21:31.290 --> 00:21:34.240
  • that goes out into the world through movies and music
  • 00:21:34.250 --> 00:21:37.020
  • and other kinds of things, politics, whatever.
  • 00:21:37.030 --> 00:21:39.200
  • But I think there's an opportunity for everyone
  • 00:21:39.210 --> 00:21:42.250
  • to turn their heart to love God
  • 00:21:42.260 --> 00:21:44.190
  • and to love their neighbor. - Yep.
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  • - And I appreciate you devoting so much
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  • of your time helping people to do that
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  • and talking about it boldly.
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  • - You have to show them through the way you behave.
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  • God's people are the ones
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  • who are showing the world what Jesus is like.
  • 00:21:58.080 --> 00:22:02.160
  • And if we don't do it, Cameron,
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  • where else is it gonna come from?
  • 00:22:04.190 --> 00:22:06.040
  • If God's people are not gonna show
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  • the world around us Jesus, who's gonna do it?
  • 00:22:07.230 --> 00:22:09.240
  • I mean, you say the heathen's not gonna do it, no.
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  • They don't have the spirit of God in them.
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  • You say, ooh.
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  • And it's hard to show them that
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  • two hours on Sunday morning inside a church building.
  • 00:22:18.080 --> 00:22:21.240
  • - They're not inside the church--
  • 00:22:21.250 --> 00:22:22.220
  • - You're not where they are.
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  • If you went every time the doors were opened,
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  • that'd give you about four hours out of 168 in a week.
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  • You're like, what are you doing the other 164 hours?
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  • Where you work is where you can,
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  • point them to Jesus, where you work, where you play.
  • 00:22:36.080 --> 00:22:39.030
  • That's when you show them.
  • 00:22:39.290 --> 00:22:41.040
  • We now have God confined to structures
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  • with tall steeples in front of them.
  • 00:22:44.020 --> 00:22:46.220
  • They're all in rows
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  • and you really don't even know that person right down there.
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  • Hey, how you doing?
  • 00:22:52.250 --> 00:22:53.290
  • Pretty good, one time a week. - Yeah.
  • 00:22:54.000 --> 00:22:56.160
  • - It's not enough, Cameron. - It's not gonna cut it.
  • 00:22:56.170 --> 00:22:58.010
  • - Not enough.
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  • You got to have family structures
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  • meeting together in their homes
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  • where they eat, where they play, like this.
  • 00:23:02.270 --> 00:23:04.260
  • - Yeah. - You're coming from,
  • 00:23:04.270 --> 00:23:06.160
  • we're interacting here. - Yep.
  • 00:23:06.170 --> 00:23:08.140
  • - You see, we have to do more of that.
  • 00:23:08.150 --> 00:23:10.060
  • You say, so you and Miss Kay in the dark of night
  • 00:23:10.070 --> 00:23:12.150
  • are not arguing and bickering and calling each other names?
  • 00:23:12.160 --> 00:23:15.220
  • No, sir, my woman, my wife, best friends.
  • 00:23:15.230 --> 00:23:19.120
  • I'm not gonna be mean to that woman.
  • 00:23:19.130 --> 00:23:21.040
  • You say, well when does the sex play out
  • 00:23:21.050 --> 00:23:23.030
  • 'cause you're a younger man.
  • 00:23:23.040 --> 00:23:24.290
  • Now, I'm 72.
  • 00:23:25.000 --> 00:23:25.250
  • You're gonna have to find someone older than I am
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  • 'cause it's still going.
  • 00:23:29.290 --> 00:23:31.140
  • (Kirk laughs)
  • 00:23:31.150 --> 00:23:32.200
  • So I'm giving you some encouraging words.
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  • It's still happening even in your 70s.
  • 00:23:34.120 --> 00:23:36.240
  • - Phil, this has been great, this is awesome.
  • 00:23:36.250 --> 00:23:39.150
  • Thank you for spending the whole morning with me,
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  • showing me how to catch catfish,
  • 00:23:41.100 --> 00:23:42.210
  • how to clean and how to cook them.
  • 00:23:42.220 --> 00:23:44.190
  • This is the best fish I've ever had.
  • 00:23:44.200 --> 00:23:45.290
  • - It's just a little, a little,
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  • a, a, millimeter, just a little,
  • 00:23:48.200 --> 00:23:52.120
  • redneck might wear off on you
  • 00:23:53.090 --> 00:23:55.010
  • and you go back, you take that back to California.
  • 00:23:55.020 --> 00:23:57.170
  • - I might start growing a beard.
  • 00:23:57.180 --> 00:23:59.150
  • - Oh, think about it.
  • 00:23:59.160 --> 00:24:00.250
  • (Kirk laughs)
  • 00:24:00.260 --> 00:24:02.120
  • (exciting uplifting music)
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  • You tryin' to tell me
  • 00:24:17.110 --> 00:24:18.200
  • somebody's stealin from you
  • 00:24:18.210 --> 00:24:20.000
  • and you gunna to be good to 'em?
  • 00:24:20.010 --> 00:24:21.080
  • I said, "You otta try it some time."
  • 00:24:21.090 --> 00:24:23.100
  • - It works - It'll sure work
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