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Not a Fan, A Follower's Story

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August 11, 2018
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The Not a Fan Movie, “A Follower’s Story” is an adaptation of the original DVD series to a full-length feature film. “A Follower’s Story” includes scenes from the original study, as well as teaching by Kyle Idleman.

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  • [chattering]
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  • Alright, whose turn is it?
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  • Alright, come on, dude.
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  • Roll the dice.
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  • Don't roll them on me!
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  • Go put them on the board.
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  • Big money, big money...yeah!
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  • Good job!
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  • [chattering]
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  • Eric?
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  • Eric! Eric!
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  • Dad? Dad!
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  • (Natalie) Hello?
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  • My dad just collapsed.
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  • I think we need an ambulance.
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  • (Kyle) So let me just come right out and ask you a question;
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  • Are you a follower of Jesus?
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  • Or are you really just a fan?
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  • Now, take your time with your answer, don't rush it.
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  • It may be the most important question you ever ask yourself.
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  • In fact, let me ask you a few other questions
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  • to help you answer that one honestly.
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  • Here's the first question:
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  • Have you made a decision to believe in Jesus?
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  • Or have you committed to following Jesus?
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  • See, I think a lot of people, at some point in their life,
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  • made a decision to believe.
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  • And they believe that Jesus is God's Son,
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  • but they never really made a commitment to follow Jesus.
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  • Maybe that's you.
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  • At some point in your life,
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  • someone shared with you John 3:16,
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  • "For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son,
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  • "so that whoever believes in him will not perish
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  • but have eternal life."
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  • Well, who doesn't want that?
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  • And so they make a decision to believe in Jesus,
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  • but they never really make a commitment to follow him.
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  • [sirens blaring]
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  • A number of months ago at the church I work at,
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  • I received an e-mail from a man
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  • who said he didn't wanna be a part of the church anymore,
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  • and the only reason he gave was,
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  • "I don't like Kyle's preaching."
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  • Well, that begs for more of an explanation,
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  • and so even though I didn't know him, I just picked up the phone
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  • and called him.
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  • When he answered, I said, "Hi, this is Kyle Idleman.
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  • "I understand you're leaving the church because
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  • you don't like my sermons."
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  • Well, this caught him off guard, as I thought it might.
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  • There was some awkward silence.
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  • But then he began to ramble
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  • as he explained what he meant by that.
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  • And in the middle of his explanation,
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  • he said something that got my attention.
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  • In fact, I pulled over to the side of the road
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  • and I wrote it down.
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  • Here's what he said: "Whenever I listen to you preach,
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  • I feel like you're trying to interfere with my life."
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  • He was saying, "I believe in Jesus, I'm a fan of Jesus,
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  • but don't ask me to follow.
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  • I'll come to church on the weekends,
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  • I'll pray before my meals,
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  • I'll throw some money in the plate,
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  • but I don't want Jesus interfering with my life."
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  • [car alarm chirping]
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  • (Eric) Tim said nothing less than 20%.
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  • Eric, you're killing me.
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  • This is Thomas Carter we're talking about here.
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  • This would be a huge deal for me.
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  • (Eric) Not at 15% he wouldn't.
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  • Eric, come on!
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  • We're done!
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  • (Eric) Ugh! I can't stand that guy!
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  • Thomas Carter would be a huge client, Eric.
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  • You think I don't know that?
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  • If you wanna lose Carter of 5%, yeah.
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  • We're not.
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  • Frank is.
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  • Thomas Carter, please.
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  • Eric Nelson, DCIM.
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  • Yes, I will.
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  • Eric, what are you doing?
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  • Fixing a problem.
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  • Watch and learn.
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  • Eric...
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  • Thomas, how you doing?
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  • Great.
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  • How's Nina?
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  • Good. And the kids?
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  • Good to hear. Good to hear.
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  • Listen, I just got off the phone with Tim--
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  • Tim's my boss--I was able to knock him down to 15%.
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  • Frank said 20%?
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  • Wow, that's--yeah, Frank's--
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  • well, Frank's Frank, you know?
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  • That's why you're probably gonna wanna go with me on this.
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  • I'll fax it over.
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  • Glad to have your business.
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  • You too.
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  • Thank you, bye.
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  • What?
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  • I-I just can't believe that you're the same guy
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  • that sits down the pew from me on Sundays.
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  • This isn't church; it's business.
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  • The sooner you learn that, the better.
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  • (Kyle) The problem is, when Jesus defined our relationship
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  • with him, being a fan wasn't an option.
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  • And while a lot of people are familiar with the words of
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  • Jesus from John 3:16,
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  • there's another passage of Scripture
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  • that records the words of Jesus from Luke 9:23.
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  • These words are often overlooked.
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  • You don't see them written on a poster and held up at a game,
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  • but I assure you they are just as legitimate.
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  • Jesus says in Luke 9:23, "If anyone would come after me,
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  • he must deny himself, take up his cross daily, and follow me."
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  • And Jesus was making it clear that to call yourself
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  • a Christian is more than just an intellectual acceptance
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  • about who he is.
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  • It's following him with your whole heart.
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  • If you read through the Gospels, you will find
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  • that about 5 times Jesus says "believe in me,"
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  • but about 20 times he says, "follow me."
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  • [chattering and laughing]
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  • We've gotta stop doing this.
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  • Yeah, that's what you always say.
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  • [distant sirens wailing]
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  • (Kyle) A lot of fans see Jesus as one of many important things.
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  • But in verse 33, Jesus says, "Any of you who does not
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  • give up everything he has, cannot be my disciple."
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  • And the crowds begin to thin out.
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  • The fans start to go home.
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  • See, fans admire Jesus, but followers are devoted to him.
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  • They're willing to sacrifice for him.
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  • And here's a question to ask yourself:
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  • Has following Jesus cost me anything?
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  • Has it cost me a promotion?
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  • Has it cost me popularity?
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  • You really don't know if you are devoted to something
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  • or someone until sacrifice is required.
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  • And so fans admire, but followers are devoted.
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  • [female over PA system] Dr. Davis, telephone please, Dr. Davis.
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  • (Kyle) Or what about this question: Is your relationship
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  • with Jesus moving from casual to committed?
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  • You know, really, that question is answered
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  • when the relationship is tested.
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  • If I perform a wedding, the bride and groom
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  • will repeat their vows of commitment after me.
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  • They'll say, "For better or worse, richer or poorer,
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  • in sickness and in health."
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  • But you know, really, those are just words
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  • until they're tested.
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  • And "worse" becomes infertility.
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  • "Poorer" becomes foreclosure.
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  • "Sickness" becomes a wheelchair.
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  • And when it's tested, then you know if it's committed.
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  • So from time to time, Jesus would test a relationship
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  • to see if it really was committed.
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  • There's an example of this, it's in John 6.
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  • We read that great crowds were following Jesus.
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  • And it tells us why.
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  • It says they were following Jesus because of the miracles.
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  • They wanted to see the show.
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  • In fact, a few verses earlier in John 6, it says that
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  • Jesus took a few loaves of bread and a couple fish
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  • and he fed a crowd of thousands.
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  • They wanted the miracles with the free food.
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  • But some time passes by, they get hungry again, and
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  • Jesus isn't offering free food; instead he just offers himself.
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  • And for the crowd, that wasn't enough,
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  • so the chapter ends this way.
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  • It says from that point on, many who were with Jesus
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  • turned back and no longer followed him.
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  • And Jesus didn't chase after them,
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  • he didn't try to talk them out of it.
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  • He let them go home because, really, he wasn't interested
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  • in a lot of casual fans;
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  • he wanted committed followers.
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  • Hi, can I help you?
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  • I was looking for the room of Eric Nelson.
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  • Here's another question:
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  • Are there certain areas of your life labeled "off limits,"
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  • or does Jesus have all-access?
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  • A fan will have certain doors of their life that Jesus
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  • isn't allowed into, and so they may say,
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  • "Jesus, I give you the key to my heart," but in reality,
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  • they have some doors that that key won't open.
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  • And maybe the key you give him won't open the door labeled
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  • "money" or the door labeled "relationships"
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  • or "success" or "work."
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  • Those are areas that you've decided are off-limits.
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  • And so we say, "Jesus, I give you my life,"
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  • but there's kind of this exception clause.
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  • I mean, there are certain things that aren't included.
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  • "Jesus, make yourself at home, but stay out of the bedroom.
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  • "You can come to work, but there are certain meetings
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  • "you don't get to attend.
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  • "There's some nights I'm gonna go out with my friends;
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  • you don't get to come along."
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  • And so we try to define the relationship on our terms,
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  • and yet Jesus made it clear that if we are to follow him,
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  • it requires a complete commitment.
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  • In fact, the very first sermon he ever preached, called
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  • the "Sermon on the Mount," Jesus talked about all kinds
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  • of areas that you and I tend to label as "off-limits."
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  • I mean, he talked about lust and sex, marriage and divorce.
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  • He talked about money and stress.
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  • He even talked about politics.
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  • Because he wanted to make it clear
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  • that a relationship with him, it's all-inclusive;
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  • that a follower gives Jesus the master-key.
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  • See, we--we say to Jesus,
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  • "I don't mind you making some changes in my life,"
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  • but Jesus wants to turn your life upside down.
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  • We say, "I don't mind a little bit of touch-up work";
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  • Jesus wants complete renovation.
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  • We're thinking tune-up; he's thinking overhaul.
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  • We think a little decorating; why not?
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  • But Jesus wants a complete re-model.
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  • He will not settle for a relationship with you
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  • where he gets some small box of your life labeled "religion."
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  • He won't settle for just a few seconds of your day
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  • before you fall asleep at night and whisper some prayers to him.
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  • He won't settle for just an hour a week on Sunday
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  • that you check off your list.
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  • No, Jesus wants you to love him the same way that he loves you:
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  • With all of your heart.
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  • I'm the pastor with the family here.
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  • Oh, I'm glad you're here.
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  • Go on in.
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  • [monitor beeping] beep...beep...beep...
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  • [camera pops]
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  • [camera snaps]
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  • (male officer) Turn.
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  • [tube whistling]
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  • Did I pass?
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  • [sighs]
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  • What are we doing in here?
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  • Anna's gonna kill me.
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  • Why?
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  • You were just a disorderly passenger.
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  • I'm the one who's gonna get nailed to the wall.
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  • [sighs]
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  • I'm gonna miss church tomorrow.
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  • (Gary) [laughing]
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  • What?
  • 00:14:22.230 --> 00:14:24.240
  • Anna and I have been going--
  • 00:14:24.260 --> 00:14:26.070
  • Oh yeah, yeah, Anna.
  • 00:14:26.090 --> 00:14:27.280
  • She wants to change you.
  • 00:14:28.000 --> 00:14:30.190
  • But I know you better than that.
  • 00:14:30.210 --> 00:14:32.230
  • Church ain't gonna change you.
  • 00:14:32.250 --> 00:14:34.180
  • We went to church when we were kids,
  • 00:14:34.200 --> 00:14:36.070
  • and we're doing the same thing.
  • 00:14:36.090 --> 00:14:37.240
  • Yeah, Gary, exactly.
  • 00:14:37.260 --> 00:14:39.200
  • We did the same thing when we were kids,
  • 00:14:39.220 --> 00:14:41.130
  • and now we're 42 years old.
  • 00:14:41.150 --> 00:14:44.090
  • What's the matter with you?
  • 00:14:44.110 --> 00:14:46.010
  • I don't know.
  • 00:14:46.030 --> 00:14:47.290
  • I've been getting these chest pains.
  • 00:14:48.010 --> 00:14:50.270
  • Eric Nelson, your wife made your bail.
  • 00:14:52.060 --> 00:14:54.120
  • You're free to go.
  • 00:14:54.140 --> 00:14:56.170
  • Well, if she doesn't kill you or turn you into
  • 00:14:57.050 --> 00:14:59.210
  • some kind of religious nut, I'll see you later.
  • 00:14:59.230 --> 00:15:03.110
  • Come on, Eric, lighten up.
  • 00:15:03.130 --> 00:15:06.030
  • Look, I love Jesus just as much as the next guy,
  • 00:15:06.050 --> 00:15:09.150
  • but just because I don't go to church--
  • 00:15:09.170 --> 00:15:11.120
  • The next guy's in a jail cell.
  • 00:15:11.140 --> 00:15:13.150
  • Yeah, Eric.
  • 00:15:13.170 --> 00:15:14.280
  • Well, you are the next guy,
  • 00:15:15.000 --> 00:15:16.240
  • so don't get all high and mighty with me.
  • 00:15:16.260 --> 00:15:18.130
  • Why do you have to insult my wife?
  • 00:15:18.150 --> 00:15:20.210
  • Has it ever occurred to you that some people might actually
  • 00:15:20.230 --> 00:15:22.190
  • take their beliefs seriously?
  • 00:15:22.210 --> 00:15:24.200
  • Yeah Eric.
  • 00:15:24.220 --> 00:15:26.040
  • What, people like your dad?
  • 00:15:26.060 --> 00:15:28.250
  • Mrs. Nelson, I'm Dr. Campbell.
  • 00:15:34.130 --> 00:15:36.160
  • We spoke earlier in the E-R.
  • 00:15:36.180 --> 00:15:38.110
  • Yes, I remember.
  • 00:15:38.130 --> 00:15:40.170
  • How is he?
  • 00:15:40.190 --> 00:15:42.060
  • It appears that Mr. Nelson's heart attack is catastrophic.
  • 00:15:43.230 --> 00:15:48.180
  • They warned us it could happen again.
  • 00:15:51.040 --> 00:15:53.130
  • He had his first heart attack 5 years ago.
  • 00:15:53.150 --> 00:15:57.090
  • [knocking]
  • 00:15:58.250 --> 00:16:00.250
  • 00:16:02.060 --> 00:16:07.030
  • [sighing]
  • 00:16:07.050 --> 00:16:09.290
  • She wants a divorce.
  • 00:16:10.010 --> 00:16:12.030
  • Well, what happened?
  • 00:16:12.050 --> 00:16:13.150
  • I don't know; I woke up to go to work this morning,
  • 00:16:13.170 --> 00:16:16.060
  • the kids were gone, and I found that.
  • 00:16:16.080 --> 00:16:19.050
  • It's alright, Eric. Just calm down.
  • 00:16:19.070 --> 00:16:21.100
  • Don't tell me to calm down!
  • 00:16:21.120 --> 00:16:24.120
  • It's not alright.
  • 00:16:24.140 --> 00:16:26.150
  • Eric, listen to me, I've been...Eric.
  • 00:16:26.170 --> 00:16:28.170
  • I can't breathe.
  • 00:16:28.190 --> 00:16:29.290
  • Eric?
  • 00:16:30.020 --> 00:16:31.290
  • What's going on?
  • 00:16:32.010 --> 00:16:33.140
  • I can't breathe. Oh God, not now, please.
  • 00:16:33.160 --> 00:16:35.140
  • Hold on, hold on, it's alright.
  • 00:16:35.160 --> 00:16:38.190
  • (female doctor) Mr. Nelson, we've confirmed that you've had
  • 00:16:38.210 --> 00:16:41.050
  • a very serious heart attack.
  • 00:16:41.070 --> 00:16:43.180
  • We still need a few more tests to be sure, but the results
  • 00:16:43.200 --> 00:16:46.220
  • from the electrocardiogram indicate to me that
  • 00:16:46.240 --> 00:16:50.000
  • the cause of your attack was hypertrophic cardiomyopathy.
  • 00:16:50.020 --> 00:16:54.100
  • The important thing to know is that
  • 00:16:54.120 --> 00:16:56.020
  • this could very well happen again.
  • 00:16:56.040 --> 00:16:58.190
  • I'd like to discuss a surgery, but I can't stress enough
  • 00:16:58.210 --> 00:17:04.010
  • the importance of lifestyle changes.
  • 00:17:04.030 --> 00:17:07.060
  • But we'll talk more after the tests are conclusive,
  • 00:17:07.080 --> 00:17:10.070
  • and after you've had a chance to rest.
  • 00:17:10.090 --> 00:17:12.060
  • Thank you, doctor.
  • 00:17:12.080 --> 00:17:14.070
  • Look Eric, advice is cheap, but Anna is stressing you out.
  • 00:17:19.240 --> 00:17:26.130
  • You talk about lifestyle change, start there.
  • 00:17:26.150 --> 00:17:31.080
  • What if I had died, Gary?
  • 00:17:32.150 --> 00:17:34.230
  • You didn't.
  • 00:17:34.250 --> 00:17:37.100
  • I will one day.
  • 00:17:37.120 --> 00:17:40.200
  • What would I have left behind?
  • 00:17:40.220 --> 00:17:44.130
  • What if God's trying to tell me something?
  • 00:17:46.090 --> 00:17:49.020
  • Like what?
  • 00:17:49.040 --> 00:17:50.210
  • Get more exercise?
  • 00:17:50.230 --> 00:17:55.150
  • I gotta stop doing this.
  • 00:17:55.170 --> 00:17:59.130
  • That's what you always say.
  • 00:17:59.150 --> 00:18:02.200
  • I need you to leave.
  • 00:18:10.030 --> 00:18:13.120
  • [monitor beeping] beep...beep...beep...
  • 00:18:15.160 --> 00:18:20.010
  • (Dr. Campbell) Our tests show that the damage done to his heart is extensive.
  • 00:18:27.210 --> 00:18:33.140
  • Perhaps irreparable.
  • 00:18:33.160 --> 00:18:36.210
  • But the real issue is that
  • 00:18:36.230 --> 00:18:39.060
  • his brain has been without oxygen for a long time.
  • 00:18:39.080 --> 00:18:42.020
  • (Mr. Nelson) What does that mean?
  • 00:18:42.040 --> 00:18:46.000
  • (Dr. Campbell) His brain is not responding to any of the stimulus
  • 00:18:46.020 --> 00:18:48.020
  • that we've introduced.
  • 00:18:48.040 --> 00:18:50.110
  • We have run the gamut of tests,
  • 00:18:50.130 --> 00:18:53.050
  • and I'm afraid
  • 00:18:53.070 --> 00:18:56.110
  • there's nothing else we can do...
  • 00:18:56.130 --> 00:19:00.200
  • we simply see no brain function at all.
  • 00:19:00.220 --> 00:19:06.000
  • I'm recommending that we turn off the respirator
  • 00:19:06.020 --> 00:19:08.240
  • and let him go.
  • 00:19:08.280 --> 00:19:13.040
  • [crying]
  • 00:19:17.180 --> 00:19:19.070
  • 00:19:19.090 --> 00:19:26.250
  • (Kyle) Doctor, is it alright if I have a few minutes
  • 00:19:29.080 --> 00:19:31.050
  • to pray with the family?
  • 00:19:31.070 --> 00:19:33.030
  • Yeah, of course.
  • 00:19:33.050 --> 00:19:34.150
  • I'll be outside.
  • 00:19:34.170 --> 00:19:36.120
  • 00:19:38.030 --> 00:19:43.250
  • (Kyle) Heavenly Father,
  • 00:19:45.240 --> 00:19:48.190
  • it's hard to know how to pray at a moment like this.
  • 00:19:48.210 --> 00:19:53.240
  • And so we cry out to you as helpless children--
  • 00:19:53.260 --> 00:19:58.280
  • [monitor flat-lines] beep...
  • 00:20:03.290 --> 00:20:08.250
  • [birds chirping]
  • 00:20:19.210 --> 00:20:24.190
  • Death.
  • 00:20:26.190 --> 00:20:29.170
  • I suppose more than any other word,
  • 00:20:30.230 --> 00:20:32.080
  • that word defines what it means to follow Jesus.
  • 00:20:32.100 --> 00:20:36.160
  • We die to ourselves, and follow him.
  • 00:20:36.180 --> 00:20:40.260
  • But this is not the small print of the Gospel;
  • 00:20:40.280 --> 00:20:44.040
  • this is not some hidden message in Scripture.
  • 00:20:44.060 --> 00:20:48.000
  • Jesus made it very clear that a decision to follow
  • 00:20:48.020 --> 00:20:51.010
  • was a decision to die, to surrender everything to him.
  • 00:20:51.030 --> 00:20:55.160
  • It's only then that we find life.
  • 00:20:55.180 --> 00:20:58.060
  • And so Jesus turns to the crowd and he turns to you and me,
  • 00:20:58.080 --> 00:21:03.280
  • and he asks the one question
  • 00:21:04.000 --> 00:21:06.170
  • that will ultimately define our lives:
  • 00:21:06.190 --> 00:21:11.050
  • "Are you a fan?
  • 00:21:11.070 --> 00:21:14.010
  • Or a follower?"
  • 00:21:14.030 --> 00:21:16.110
  • 00:21:17.090 --> 00:21:28.110
  • 00:21:44.060 --> 00:21:51.010
  • 00:21:51.010 --> 00:21:58.150
  • [sighs]
  • 00:21:58.170 --> 00:22:00.280
  • 00:22:03.220 --> 00:22:14.060
  • 00:22:20.110 --> 00:22:27.230
  • 00:22:27.230 --> 00:22:35.080
  • 00:22:35.290 --> 00:22:43.110
  • 00:22:43.110 --> 00:22:50.260
  • 00:22:51.170 --> 00:22:59.000
  • 00:22:59.000 --> 00:23:06.170
  • 00:23:07.070 --> 00:23:14.200
  • 00:23:14.200 --> 00:23:22.050
  • 00:23:22.260 --> 00:23:33.200
  • (Kyle) Sometimes in an effort to get as many people as possible
  • 00:23:35.220 --> 00:23:39.050
  • to follow Jesus, I have, with good intentions,
  • 00:23:39.070 --> 00:23:45.070
  • made following him sound as attractive,
  • 00:23:45.090 --> 00:23:49.140
  • as appealing as possible.
  • 00:23:49.160 --> 00:23:52.090
  • And so I've talked a lot about the unconditional joy,
  • 00:23:52.110 --> 00:23:56.220
  • the peace that passes understanding...
  • 00:23:56.240 --> 00:23:59.240
  • the grace and mercy
  • 00:23:59.260 --> 00:24:02.070
  • that frees us from all of our guilt and shame.
  • 00:24:02.090 --> 00:24:05.150
  • Those things are true and they're beautiful,
  • 00:24:05.170 --> 00:24:08.240
  • and they should be spoken of often.
  • 00:24:08.260 --> 00:24:13.100
  • But I've realized that I have been guilty of selling Jesus,
  • 00:24:15.010 --> 00:24:21.240
  • of emphasizing only the parts about Jesus
  • 00:24:21.260 --> 00:24:25.080
  • that I thought people would like.
  • 00:24:25.100 --> 00:24:29.290
  • Imagine it this way:
  • 00:24:31.180 --> 00:24:34.040
  • Imagine if my oldest daughter grows up and goes to college,
  • 00:24:34.060 --> 00:24:38.240
  • and after a number of years isn't married,
  • 00:24:38.260 --> 00:24:41.270
  • but she really wants to be.
  • 00:24:41.290 --> 00:24:44.000
  • And so I decide to help the process along and I take out
  • 00:24:44.020 --> 00:24:47.140
  • an ad in the newspaper and I put up a billboard sign
  • 00:24:47.160 --> 00:24:51.100
  • and print up T-shirts, begging someone to come and choose her.
  • 00:24:51.120 --> 00:24:57.060
  • Wouldn't that cheapen who she is?
  • 00:24:57.080 --> 00:25:01.090
  • Wouldn't that make it seem like they were doing her a favor?
  • 00:25:01.110 --> 00:25:06.070
  • I would never do that.
  • 00:25:06.090 --> 00:25:08.140
  • If you wanna come and get to know her, you better come
  • 00:25:08.160 --> 00:25:11.200
  • with everything you've got or I'll send you packin'.
  • 00:25:11.220 --> 00:25:17.230
  • I'm sorry if I've ever cheapened Jesus;
  • 00:25:17.250 --> 00:25:22.080
  • if I've ever made it sound like we're doing him a favor
  • 00:25:22.100 --> 00:25:26.030
  • by choosing to follow.
  • 00:25:26.050 --> 00:25:28.120
  • When Jesus invited people to follow him,
  • 00:25:28.140 --> 00:25:32.010
  • it wasn't a sales pitch where he emphasized all the positives
  • 00:25:32.030 --> 00:25:36.190
  • and skipped over anything that might come off as negative
  • 00:25:36.210 --> 00:25:40.190
  • or unappealing.
  • 00:25:40.220 --> 00:25:42.180
  • In Luke 9:23 he said, "If anyone would come after me,
  • 00:25:42.200 --> 00:25:46.210
  • he must deny himself, take up his cross, and follow me."
  • 00:25:46.230 --> 00:25:52.010
  • Now, for us, I suppose the idea of taking up a cross
  • 00:25:52.030 --> 00:25:56.130
  • might sound poetic.
  • 00:25:56.150 --> 00:25:59.200
  • After all, we hang them on our walls as decorations,
  • 00:25:59.220 --> 00:26:02.270
  • we wear them as pieces of jewelry.
  • 00:26:02.290 --> 00:26:06.170
  • But for those living in the 1st century,
  • 00:26:06.190 --> 00:26:08.270
  • the idea of taking up a cross--
  • 00:26:08.290 --> 00:26:11.180
  • nothing could have been more repulsive.
  • 00:26:11.200 --> 00:26:15.030
  • And so really, it's the cross that separates
  • 00:26:15.050 --> 00:26:18.170
  • fans from followers.
  • 00:26:18.190 --> 00:26:21.030
  • No fan would ever choose to take up a cross.
  • 00:26:21.050 --> 00:26:27.200
  • It represented defeat and disappointment,
  • 00:26:27.220 --> 00:26:31.040
  • but more than anything else, it represented death.
  • 00:26:31.060 --> 00:26:34.250
  • And who would wanna be associated with that?
  • 00:26:34.270 --> 00:26:38.000
  • These days, when a company or an organization tries to
  • 00:26:38.020 --> 00:26:41.150
  • attract a larger audience, they might design a logo or come up
  • 00:26:41.170 --> 00:26:45.170
  • with a symbol that will appeal to as many people as possible.
  • 00:26:45.190 --> 00:26:49.280
  • But the cross was the opposite of all that.
  • 00:26:50.000 --> 00:26:54.010
  • Jesus takes the most despised symbol of his time and he says,
  • 00:26:54.030 --> 00:27:00.110
  • "If you wanna follow me, you'll need to carry this."
  • 00:27:00.130 --> 00:27:05.180
  • But we do everything we can to avoid death.
  • 00:27:05.200 --> 00:27:08.070
  • We don't like to talk about it.
  • 00:27:08.090 --> 00:27:09.270
  • We don't even like the word.
  • 00:27:09.290 --> 00:27:12.070
  • When someone dies, we say they've "passed on"
  • 00:27:12.090 --> 00:27:14.210
  • or they've "gone ahead."
  • 00:27:14.230 --> 00:27:16.170
  • "They're no longer with us."
  • 00:27:16.190 --> 00:27:18.140
  • We don't even like to say it.
  • 00:27:18.160 --> 00:27:20.120
  • It's so final.
  • 00:27:20.140 --> 00:27:22.220
  • It's so complete.
  • 00:27:22.240 --> 00:27:24.260
  • And yet we learn that following Jesus means dying every day.
  • 00:27:24.280 --> 00:27:31.100
  • Every day we take up our cross and we die to ourselves,
  • 00:27:31.120 --> 00:27:34.290
  • we die to our plans and to our pleasures.
  • 00:27:35.010 --> 00:27:37.220
  • We die to our goals and our sins, our bitterness,
  • 00:27:37.240 --> 00:27:40.270
  • and our entitlement.
  • 00:27:40.290 --> 00:27:43.100
  • The famous German theologian,
  • 00:27:43.120 --> 00:27:45.050
  • Dietrich Bonhoeffer put it this way:
  • 00:27:45.070 --> 00:27:47.230
  • "When Christ calls a man, he bids him
  • 00:27:47.250 --> 00:27:51.220
  • 'Come and die.'"
  • 00:27:51.240 --> 00:27:53.260
  • For so long I had this
  • 00:27:57.190 --> 00:28:02.050
  • idea of my future in my mind.
  • 00:28:02.070 --> 00:28:06.050
  • Had all these plans for my life.
  • 00:28:07.200 --> 00:28:12.110
  • Now that God's in it,
  • 00:28:12.130 --> 00:28:17.100
  • I can't see my future.
  • 00:28:17.120 --> 00:28:21.070
  • I feel like I can't see 2 feet in front of me.
  • 00:28:24.120 --> 00:28:28.220
  • I don't know what's gonna happen to me,
  • 00:28:33.030 --> 00:28:38.130
  • and it's...
  • 00:28:38.150 --> 00:28:43.240
  • such a relief.
  • 00:28:43.260 --> 00:28:47.230
  • [sighs]
  • 00:28:47.250 --> 00:28:49.240
  • I am so sorry.
  • 00:28:54.250 --> 00:28:58.240
  • Could you forgive me, Anna?
  • 00:29:01.070 --> 00:29:04.080
  • Oh Eric, for 2 days
  • 00:29:06.240 --> 00:29:13.120
  • I was ready to live life without you.
  • 00:29:13.140 --> 00:29:16.200
  • But now I know I'm not.
  • 00:29:22.040 --> 00:29:25.100
  • And I think you're right; God's given a second chance
  • 00:29:25.120 --> 00:29:30.080
  • and I wanna take it.
  • 00:29:30.100 --> 00:29:33.250
  • [sighs]
  • 00:29:33.270 --> 00:29:35.260
  • I forgive you.
  • 00:29:35.280 --> 00:29:39.190
  • [sighs]
  • 00:29:43.150 --> 00:29:45.290
  • I don't know what I'd do without you.
  • 00:29:46.010 --> 00:29:50.120
  • [sobbing]
  • 00:29:55.240 --> 00:29:59.180
  • (Anna) Are you okay?
  • 00:30:20.270 --> 00:30:22.220
  • (Eric) Yeah, just trying not to puke.
  • 00:30:22.240 --> 00:30:25.080
  • Do we need to go back to the hospital?
  • 00:30:25.100 --> 00:30:27.120
  • No, I just need a minute.
  • 00:30:27.140 --> 00:30:29.070
  • Are you sure?
  • 00:30:29.090 --> 00:30:30.250
  • Yeah, it's probably the medication.
  • 00:30:30.270 --> 00:30:33.000
  • The traffic doesn't help.
  • 00:30:33.020 --> 00:30:37.030
  • (female 1) Excuse me.
  • 00:30:37.050 --> 00:30:38.280
  • Excuse me, sir.
  • 00:30:39.000 --> 00:30:41.020
  • My daughter and I haven't had anything food today.
  • 00:30:41.040 --> 00:30:43.080
  • Do you think you could spare us a little something?
  • 00:30:43.100 --> 00:30:46.050
  • I just got out of the hospital.
  • 00:30:46.070 --> 00:30:48.070
  • I don't have any cash. Do you have anything?
  • 00:30:48.090 --> 00:30:50.040
  • No.
  • 00:30:50.060 --> 00:30:51.180
  • Sorry.
  • 00:30:52.160 --> 00:30:54.260
  • (Kyle) At the end of Luke 9, there are three quick examples
  • 00:31:01.090 --> 00:31:05.110
  • of people who wanna be followers of Jesus,
  • 00:31:05.130 --> 00:31:08.290
  • but seem to be exposed as nothing more than fans.
  • 00:31:09.010 --> 00:31:14.030
  • It's interesting to read through it because I think
  • 00:31:14.050 --> 00:31:17.230
  • some of the same things that kept them from following,
  • 00:31:17.250 --> 00:31:20.180
  • are the same thing that keep us from following today.
  • 00:31:20.200 --> 00:31:23.280
  • And so the first fan comes to Jesus in verse 57,
  • 00:31:24.000 --> 00:31:28.080
  • and as Jesus is traveling along with his disciples,
  • 00:31:28.100 --> 00:31:31.120
  • this man says to Jesus, "I will follow you wherever you go."
  • 00:31:31.140 --> 00:31:37.090
  • "Wherever."
  • 00:31:37.110 --> 00:31:39.150
  • He at least talks a pretty good game, "Anywhere, anytime,
  • 00:31:39.170 --> 00:31:42.190
  • anyplace, I will follow."
  • 00:31:42.210 --> 00:31:45.260
  • But Jesus knows this man's heart.
  • 00:31:45.280 --> 00:31:49.120
  • And so in verse 58, Jesus says to this man, "Foxes have holes.
  • 00:31:49.140 --> 00:31:55.200
  • "Birds of the air have nests.
  • 00:31:55.220 --> 00:31:59.040
  • But I have no home, I have no place to lay my head."
  • 00:31:59.060 --> 00:32:05.110
  • Jesus essentially says to the man,
  • 00:32:08.150 --> 00:32:10.190
  • "If you wanna follow me,
  • 00:32:10.210 --> 00:32:12.230
  • "you're not gonna be staying at the Ritz, or even a Motel 6--
  • 00:32:12.250 --> 00:32:16.040
  • "no one's gonna leave the light on for us.
  • 00:32:16.060 --> 00:32:18.170
  • In fact, just so you know, I'm homeless."
  • 00:32:18.190 --> 00:32:21.090
  • Hey there.
  • 00:32:26.200 --> 00:32:29.040
  • I got a little something for you.
  • 00:32:29.060 --> 00:32:31.230
  • How 'bout a big, red, juicy apple.
  • 00:32:31.250 --> 00:32:35.060
  • How 'bout that?
  • 00:32:35.080 --> 00:32:37.100
  • (Kyle) Jesus draws attention to the fact that this man
  • 00:32:37.120 --> 00:32:40.020
  • loved comfort more than following him.
  • 00:32:40.040 --> 00:32:45.020
  • Jesus puts this man at a crossroads, and he says,
  • 00:32:52.180 --> 00:32:55.290
  • "You can pursue comfort, or you can pursue me.
  • 00:32:56.010 --> 00:32:59.080
  • But you can't pursue both."
  • 00:32:59.100 --> 00:33:02.070
  • 00:33:04.070 --> 00:33:09.000
  • (Kyle) We are, by nature, comfort-seekers.
  • 00:33:11.000 --> 00:33:15.000
  • We're a culture of hot tubs and country clubs,
  • 00:33:15.020 --> 00:33:17.160
  • day spas and La-Z-Boys.
  • 00:33:17.180 --> 00:33:20.030
  • And most of us spend our time and spend our resources
  • 00:33:20.050 --> 00:33:24.090
  • trying to make our lives as comfortable as possible.
  • 00:33:24.110 --> 00:33:28.210
  • 00:33:30.050 --> 00:33:37.180
  • 00:33:37.180 --> 00:33:45.030
  • You alright?
  • 00:33:55.060 --> 00:33:58.160
  • Yeah.
  • 00:33:58.180 --> 00:33:59.280
  • Just glad to be home.
  • 00:34:00.020 --> 00:34:01.270
  • I'm excited to see the kids.
  • 00:34:01.290 --> 00:34:03.110
  • I'll tell them you're here.
  • 00:34:03.130 --> 00:34:04.260
  • Alright.
  • 00:34:04.280 --> 00:34:07.020
  • 00:34:09.040 --> 00:34:16.160
  • 00:34:16.160 --> 00:34:24.010
  • Get it, get it, bud!
  • 00:34:31.280 --> 00:34:33.200
  • Yeah.
  • 00:34:33.220 --> 00:34:36.210
  • Thomas àà Kempis writes that "Jesus has many
  • 00:34:39.250 --> 00:34:43.170
  • "who love the kingdom of God,
  • 00:34:43.190 --> 00:34:47.120
  • "but few who bear a cross.
  • 00:34:47.140 --> 00:34:50.030
  • "He has many who desire his comfort,
  • 00:34:50.050 --> 00:34:53.270
  • "but few who desire his suffering.
  • 00:34:53.290 --> 00:34:56.040
  • "All want to rejoice with him,
  • 00:34:56.060 --> 00:34:58.050
  • but few are willing to suffer for him."
  • 00:34:58.070 --> 00:35:00.190
  • He writes, "There are many who admire his miracles,
  • 00:35:00.210 --> 00:35:04.040
  • but there are few who follow in the humiliation of the cross."
  • 00:35:04.060 --> 00:35:09.280
  • You gave Mark two clients?
  • 00:35:10.000 --> 00:35:12.260
  • I figured I owed him that after what I did.
  • 00:35:12.280 --> 00:35:17.010
  • Well, you might wanna check your math there.
  • 00:35:17.030 --> 00:35:20.000
  • You only took one in the first place, why give back two?
  • 00:35:20.020 --> 00:35:23.180
  • I figured two clients says, "God's given me some
  • 00:35:23.200 --> 00:35:26.110
  • perspective and I'm really sorry."
  • 00:35:26.130 --> 00:35:28.240
  • One client says, "I need to ask a favor."
  • 00:35:28.260 --> 00:35:33.210
  • Will you be able to pick up more to make up for it?
  • 00:35:33.230 --> 00:35:37.010
  • I don't know.
  • 00:35:37.030 --> 00:35:39.040
  • I don't know if I want to.
  • 00:35:39.060 --> 00:35:41.000
  • Don't know.
  • 00:35:41.020 --> 00:35:43.160
  • Eric, we have bills.
  • 00:35:43.180 --> 00:35:46.270
  • Have you thought of that?
  • 00:35:46.290 --> 00:35:49.140
  • Yeah, I've thought a lot about that.
  • 00:35:49.160 --> 00:35:53.230
  • I mean, giving clients back to Mark might make him
  • 00:35:53.250 --> 00:35:56.290
  • feel better, but he can take care of himself.
  • 00:35:57.010 --> 00:35:59.070
  • Your kids can't.
  • 00:35:59.090 --> 00:36:01.190
  • I don't think taking care of our kids means giving them
  • 00:36:01.210 --> 00:36:03.270
  • 1.500 square feet a piece.
  • 00:36:03.290 --> 00:36:06.160
  • What are you saying?
  • 00:36:06.190 --> 00:36:08.010
  • I'm saying we have this huge house, and all this stuff,
  • 00:36:08.030 --> 00:36:12.120
  • and I almost lost my family.
  • 00:36:12.140 --> 00:36:15.100
  • Obviously we need more than this.
  • 00:36:15.120 --> 00:36:20.090
  • I have seen a big change.
  • 00:36:25.150 --> 00:36:29.260
  • And I'm happy that you want to take your faith seriously.
  • 00:36:29.280 --> 00:36:35.210
  • But all things in moderation, Eric.
  • 00:36:35.230 --> 00:36:39.290
  • If you--if you want to scale down
  • 00:36:40.010 --> 00:36:43.050
  • and live the simple life,
  • 00:36:43.090 --> 00:36:45.170
  • fine.
  • 00:36:45.190 --> 00:36:46.290
  • That's great.
  • 00:36:47.010 --> 00:36:48.290
  • But can you do it by degrees so it's not such a shock
  • 00:36:49.010 --> 00:36:51.190
  • to the rest of us?
  • 00:36:51.210 --> 00:36:54.070
  • I mean, at least wait until the kids
  • 00:36:54.090 --> 00:36:57.040
  • are out of the house, alright?
  • 00:36:57.060 --> 00:37:01.150
  • Alright.
  • 00:37:03.240 --> 00:37:06.040
  • (Kyle) In verse 59 we meet fan number two.
  • 00:37:07.240 --> 00:37:10.280
  • This time Jesus says to him, "Follow me."
  • 00:37:11.000 --> 00:37:14.240
  • And the man says, "Well, first let me go and bury my father."
  • 00:37:14.260 --> 00:37:18.150
  • And Jesus replies, "Let the dead bury their own dead.
  • 00:37:18.170 --> 00:37:23.240
  • You go proclaim the kingdom of God."
  • 00:37:23.260 --> 00:37:27.100
  • Now when I first read that, I thought the man's excuse
  • 00:37:27.120 --> 00:37:30.180
  • seemed pretty legitimate.
  • 00:37:30.200 --> 00:37:33.030
  • I mean, Jesus is being pretty hardcore here;
  • 00:37:33.050 --> 00:37:35.140
  • let the guy go bury his dad.
  • 00:37:35.160 --> 00:37:38.280
  • But, in reality, what the man is saying to Jesus is,
  • 00:37:39.000 --> 00:37:42.200
  • "When my parents die, when I get my share of the inheritance,
  • 00:37:42.220 --> 00:37:47.210
  • when my future is secure, then I'll come follow you."
  • 00:37:47.230 --> 00:37:51.160
  • He's putting Jesus off.
  • 00:37:51.180 --> 00:37:54.000
  • He's saying, "I wanna follow you, but not right now.
  • 00:37:54.020 --> 00:37:56.260
  • Now's not a good time."
  • 00:37:56.280 --> 00:37:58.290
  • How often do we do that?
  • 00:37:59.010 --> 00:38:01.030
  • We treat Jesus like
  • 00:38:01.050 --> 00:38:02.260
  • we treat the diet we keep meaning to start.
  • 00:38:02.280 --> 00:38:06.140
  • "I'm gonna start eating right.
  • 00:38:06.160 --> 00:38:08.040
  • First let me finish this chicken chimichanga."
  • 00:38:08.060 --> 00:38:11.060
  • "I'm gonna start following Jesus, but not today.
  • 00:38:11.080 --> 00:38:14.270
  • "First, let me go to college.
  • 00:38:14.290 --> 00:38:16.150
  • "First, let me get married.
  • 00:38:16.170 --> 00:38:17.290
  • "First, let us have kids.
  • 00:38:18.010 --> 00:38:20.090
  • When I have a less demanding job, then I'll follow Jesus."
  • 00:38:20.110 --> 00:38:25.130
  • And the Holy Spirit's trying to get our attention,
  • 00:38:25.150 --> 00:38:28.060
  • tryin' to wake us up, but we keep hitting the snooze button.
  • 00:38:28.080 --> 00:38:32.280
  • Ten more minutes.
  • 00:38:33.000 --> 00:38:34.100
  • Ten more minutes.
  • 00:38:34.120 --> 00:38:37.100
  • What are you doing?
  • 00:38:42.040 --> 00:38:44.010
  • Getting rid of stuff.
  • 00:38:44.030 --> 00:38:45.220
  • What stuff?
  • 00:38:45.240 --> 00:38:47.080
  • Well, I started off with stuff that I haven't worn
  • 00:38:47.100 --> 00:38:49.090
  • or used in a year.
  • 00:38:49.110 --> 00:38:51.030
  • Then it morphed into things I don't need.
  • 00:38:51.050 --> 00:38:55.000
  • And then it turned into things that I thought
  • 00:38:55.020 --> 00:38:56.240
  • others could use more.
  • 00:38:56.260 --> 00:38:59.010
  • What are you going to do with all of it?
  • 00:38:59.030 --> 00:39:01.000
  • I'm gonna donate it.
  • 00:39:01.020 --> 00:39:02.210
  • Other stuff I'm gonna sell and donate the money.
  • 00:39:02.230 --> 00:39:05.190
  • Is there anything that you would like to get rid of?
  • 00:39:07.070 --> 00:39:09.070
  • Mm-mm, No, there's nothing I want to get rid of.
  • 00:39:09.090 --> 00:39:12.270
  • You're going to empty the house.
  • 00:39:12.290 --> 00:39:15.250
  • Well, it'll be easier when we move.
  • 00:39:15.270 --> 00:39:18.090
  • What move?
  • 00:39:18.110 --> 00:39:20.240
  • When the kids go to college.
  • 00:39:20.260 --> 00:39:23.240
  • Eric, I said that, like, over 2 years ago.
  • 00:39:23.260 --> 00:39:27.170
  • Yeah.
  • 00:39:27.190 --> 00:39:31.070
  • You're still on that?
  • 00:39:31.090 --> 00:39:33.230
  • I was serious.
  • 00:39:33.250 --> 00:39:35.170
  • Were you not?
  • 00:39:35.190 --> 00:39:37.160
  • Look, you get to decide to make less money.
  • 00:39:37.180 --> 00:39:42.210
  • You get to decide to give a lot of that money away.
  • 00:39:42.230 --> 00:39:45.060
  • But we're the ones who have to live with that.
  • 00:39:45.080 --> 00:39:47.130
  • Why can't you see that?
  • 00:39:47.150 --> 00:39:49.060
  • You know what I see?
  • 00:39:49.080 --> 00:39:50.230
  • I see that kid!
  • 00:39:50.250 --> 00:39:54.050
  • The kid we saw on the way back from the hospital.
  • 00:39:54.070 --> 00:39:56.140
  • And I can't get her out of my mind.
  • 00:39:56.160 --> 00:39:59.060
  • I can't stop thinking, "What is she doing right now?"
  • 00:39:59.080 --> 00:40:04.130
  • What are so many kids like her doing right now?
  • 00:40:04.150 --> 00:40:07.040
  • I don't know, Eric.
  • 00:40:07.060 --> 00:40:08.290
  • I don't mean to sound heartless,
  • 00:40:09.010 --> 00:40:10.290
  • but the kids like that are not your fault.
  • 00:40:11.010 --> 00:40:13.130
  • I mean, what else can you really do?
  • 00:40:13.150 --> 00:40:16.010
  • Jesus said, "If you've helped the least of these,
  • 00:40:16.030 --> 00:40:18.130
  • you've helped me," right?
  • 00:40:18.150 --> 00:40:22.040
  • That means that woman and the kid.
  • 00:40:22.060 --> 00:40:25.010
  • I don't know what else I can do,
  • 00:40:25.030 --> 00:40:29.100
  • but to do nothing is not an option.
  • 00:40:29.120 --> 00:40:33.080
  • (Kyle) Jesus calls us to take up a cross and die.
  • 00:40:35.260 --> 00:40:40.210
  • Not someday when we take our last physical breath,
  • 00:40:40.230 --> 00:40:44.120
  • but to die to ourselves today.
  • 00:40:44.140 --> 00:40:48.150
  • A friend of mine was telling me about
  • 00:40:48.170 --> 00:40:50.140
  • how he became a Christian.
  • 00:40:50.160 --> 00:40:52.150
  • The story was a little bit unusual.
  • 00:40:52.170 --> 00:40:54.070
  • A stranger came up to him and asked this question:
  • 00:40:54.090 --> 00:40:57.070
  • "If you died today, do you know where you would go?"
  • 00:40:57.090 --> 00:41:01.150
  • At first, my friend
  • 00:41:01.170 --> 00:41:03.020
  • was a little put-off by the question,
  • 00:41:03.040 --> 00:41:05.080
  • but he continued to talk to this guy, and by the end
  • 00:41:05.100 --> 00:41:08.050
  • of the evening my buddy had accepted Jesus as his Savior.
  • 00:41:08.070 --> 00:41:12.040
  • I was kind of just enjoying the story, when my friend said,
  • 00:41:12.060 --> 00:41:16.120
  • "The only problem is, I didn't die that night."
  • 00:41:16.140 --> 00:41:20.190
  • He went on to explain that he spent the next decade or so
  • 00:41:20.210 --> 00:41:23.210
  • of his life thinking everything was fine
  • 00:41:23.230 --> 00:41:26.000
  • because he had accepted Jesus,
  • 00:41:26.020 --> 00:41:28.160
  • but not understanding that he was also to follow Jesus.
  • 00:41:28.180 --> 00:41:32.270
  • My friend said, "I wish that man would have told me
  • 00:41:32.290 --> 00:41:36.040
  • that death starts now."
  • 00:41:36.060 --> 00:41:38.220
  • (Anna) Why can't you tell Tim that you've made a mistake?
  • 00:41:40.190 --> 00:41:43.070
  • You're sorry and you want your job back?
  • 00:41:43.090 --> 00:41:45.240
  • I can't do what he's asking me to do.
  • 00:41:45.260 --> 00:41:47.140
  • Why not?
  • 00:41:47.160 --> 00:41:48.270
  • It's wrong.
  • 00:41:48.290 --> 00:41:50.110
  • Like, illegal?
  • 00:41:50.130 --> 00:41:51.220
  • No.
  • 00:41:51.240 --> 00:41:53.050
  • It's unethical.
  • 00:41:53.070 --> 00:41:54.220
  • Like not providing for your family.
  • 00:41:54.240 --> 00:41:57.030
  • Anna, we've got plenty of savings
  • 00:41:57.050 --> 00:41:58.240
  • while I look for another job.
  • 00:41:58.260 --> 00:42:00.110
  • Let Frank find another job!
  • 00:42:00.130 --> 00:42:02.130
  • I care more about this family than I care about him.
  • 00:42:02.150 --> 00:42:05.150
  • And more than I care about your precious conscience.
  • 00:42:05.170 --> 00:42:09.060
  • I am tired of selling my soul so that we can have more things.
  • 00:42:09.080 --> 00:42:13.280
  • I know, because you are Saint Eric the Martyr.
  • 00:42:14.000 --> 00:42:18.050
  • We all know.
  • 00:42:18.070 --> 00:42:19.290
  • We're the ones carrying your cross!
  • 00:42:20.010 --> 00:42:22.280
  • 00:42:25.250 --> 00:42:32.040
  • (Kyle) One of my favorite stories in the Bible
  • 00:42:36.140 --> 00:42:38.150
  • is when God calls Elisha to become his prophet.
  • 00:42:38.170 --> 00:42:41.240
  • When God calls him, Elisha is plowing a field
  • 00:42:41.260 --> 00:42:45.090
  • with 12 yolk of oxen.
  • 00:42:45.110 --> 00:42:47.230
  • And this is a clear indication that Elisha
  • 00:42:47.250 --> 00:42:49.260
  • was well-off at the time.
  • 00:42:49.280 --> 00:42:51.150
  • He was living a successful and pretty comfortable life.
  • 00:42:51.170 --> 00:42:55.000
  • So when Elisha hears God's call, how does he respond?
  • 00:42:55.020 --> 00:42:59.020
  • Well, he didn't say, "Give me 'til the end of the harvest."
  • 00:42:59.040 --> 00:43:03.220
  • He didn't say, "I'm your man, God, but I'm gonna keep this
  • 00:43:03.240 --> 00:43:06.010
  • farm business on the side."
  • 00:43:06.040 --> 00:43:08.180
  • No, he walked away from his comfortable, successful,
  • 00:43:08.200 --> 00:43:11.180
  • and safe life to follow God completely.
  • 00:43:11.200 --> 00:43:16.060
  • In fact, Elisha does something a little unusual.
  • 00:43:16.080 --> 00:43:18.200
  • He gathers together all of his farm equipment
  • 00:43:18.220 --> 00:43:21.040
  • and he sets it on fire.
  • 00:43:21.060 --> 00:43:23.230
  • And then he slaughters his 24 oxen and he barbeques them
  • 00:43:23.250 --> 00:43:26.250
  • on the fire, and all of the community
  • 00:43:26.270 --> 00:43:28.200
  • comes together for this big cookout.
  • 00:43:28.220 --> 00:43:31.010
  • Now, why would he do that?
  • 00:43:31.030 --> 00:43:32.260
  • What was he saying?
  • 00:43:32.280 --> 00:43:34.170
  • He was saying, "I'm not coming back.
  • 00:43:34.190 --> 00:43:38.040
  • There is no backup plan, there is no exit strategy.
  • 00:43:38.060 --> 00:43:41.230
  • I'm following God, and I'm going all in."
  • 00:43:41.250 --> 00:43:45.270
  • And he didn't wanna keep one hand on the farm plow,
  • 00:43:45.290 --> 00:43:48.030
  • so he burned the plow.
  • 00:43:48.050 --> 00:43:50.110
  • And I don't know what's holding you back.
  • 00:43:50.130 --> 00:43:52.190
  • I don't know if you're holding onto something too tightly.
  • 00:43:52.210 --> 00:43:56.030
  • If there are things in your life that compete with Christ
  • 00:43:56.050 --> 00:43:58.280
  • for your allegiance and affection, maybe
  • 00:43:59.000 --> 00:44:02.050
  • you need to go to the backyard and start a little fire.
  • 00:44:02.070 --> 00:44:05.190
  • See you there.
  • 00:44:10.070 --> 00:44:12.020
  • [sighs]
  • 00:44:23.180 --> 00:44:25.150
  • I know this is difficult,
  • 00:44:25.170 --> 00:44:28.070
  • but we're gonna be taken care of.
  • 00:44:28.090 --> 00:44:30.270
  • I can't help but think about all those people at church
  • 00:44:33.290 --> 00:44:38.150
  • who get to keep their houses.
  • 00:44:38.170 --> 00:44:42.170
  • Why didn't Jesus tell them to do this?
  • 00:44:42.190 --> 00:44:45.210
  • Maybe he did tell some of them.
  • 00:44:48.000 --> 00:44:51.100
  • Why not all?
  • 00:44:51.120 --> 00:44:53.280
  • I don't know.
  • 00:44:54.000 --> 00:44:55.120
  • I can't speak for them.
  • 00:44:55.140 --> 00:44:57.130
  • You can speak for us apparently.
  • 00:44:57.150 --> 00:45:01.050
  • Just tell me--
  • 00:45:06.030 --> 00:45:10.020
  • tell me this is not easy for you.
  • 00:45:10.040 --> 00:45:13.250
  • This is the most difficult thing I've ever done,
  • 00:45:20.200 --> 00:45:25.200
  • and I need to know
  • 00:45:25.220 --> 00:45:28.190
  • that you and the kids
  • 00:45:28.220 --> 00:45:33.100
  • are with me.
  • 00:45:33.120 --> 00:45:35.290
  • Well, we can't stay here, can we?
  • 00:45:43.050 --> 00:45:46.020
  • Well, you can in your heart.
  • 00:45:47.240 --> 00:45:51.170
  • [engine turns over]
  • 00:45:53.130 --> 00:45:56.000
  • [engine revving]
  • 00:45:56.020 --> 00:45:59.090
  • (Kyle) The most challenging part of dying
  • 00:46:07.020 --> 00:46:09.150
  • is that Jesus calls us to do it daily.
  • 00:46:09.170 --> 00:46:13.120
  • It's not a one-time event; it's a daily decision.
  • 00:46:13.140 --> 00:46:16.220
  • And really, following Jesus doesn't work
  • 00:46:16.240 --> 00:46:19.030
  • unless we die every day.
  • 00:46:19.050 --> 00:46:23.020
  • When we attempt to follow Jesus without dying to ourselves,
  • 00:46:24.230 --> 00:46:30.280
  • we soon find that we are frustrated with
  • 00:46:31.000 --> 00:46:33.280
  • our own failures, that we are tired of trying.
  • 00:46:34.000 --> 00:46:41.020
  • See, following Jesus is not about trying every day;
  • 00:46:41.040 --> 00:46:45.020
  • it's about dying every day.
  • 00:46:45.040 --> 00:46:52.010
  • Couldn't sleep?
  • 00:46:53.280 --> 00:46:55.210
  • No.
  • 00:46:55.250 --> 00:46:58.090
  • Yeah, me neither.
  • 00:46:58.110 --> 00:47:00.200
  • You know, I have to admit,
  • 00:47:04.230 --> 00:47:08.230
  • that this house has grown on me.
  • 00:47:08.250 --> 00:47:11.030
  • What?
  • 00:47:11.050 --> 00:47:13.280
  • When we first moved here,
  • 00:47:15.130 --> 00:47:19.090
  • Tony and I called it the "Jesus House."
  • 00:47:19.110 --> 00:47:24.200
  • We were thinking it was just a phase.
  • 00:47:24.220 --> 00:47:29.030
  • Well, it wasn't.
  • 00:47:31.100 --> 00:47:36.200
  • Now when I think about Dad,
  • 00:47:40.110 --> 00:47:44.130
  • this is the way I'll remember him.
  • 00:47:44.150 --> 00:47:48.170
  • He was so happy here,
  • 00:47:50.110 --> 00:47:54.110
  • like he could finally be himself and...
  • 00:47:54.130 --> 00:47:59.220
  • we could be a family, you know?
  • 00:47:59.240 --> 00:48:03.280
  • Yeah.
  • 00:48:04.000 --> 00:48:10.020
  • Yeah, I do.
  • 00:48:10.040 --> 00:48:12.240
  • 00:48:14.030 --> 00:48:19.170
  • 00:48:19.170 --> 00:48:27.020
  • (Kyle) Hebrews 9:27 says, "Man is destined to die once,
  • 00:48:29.020 --> 00:48:34.230
  • and after that to face the judgment."
  • 00:48:34.250 --> 00:48:37.160
  • Those are the two guarantees.
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  • We will all die, and we will all stand before God.
  • 00:48:39.270 --> 00:48:44.040
  • When that moment comes to all of us,
  • 00:48:46.120 --> 00:48:48.210
  • there's only one question that will really matter is:
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  • "Have you decided to follow Jesus?"
  • 00:48:51.230 --> 00:48:56.100
  • I know that when you hear me ask, many of you quickly
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  • nod your head "yes" and say, "Yeah, I'm a follower."
  • 00:49:01.040 --> 00:49:05.090
  • But why do you say that?
  • 00:49:05.110 --> 00:49:08.130
  • Because I'm not asking if your parents were followers.
  • 00:49:08.150 --> 00:49:10.240
  • I'm not asking if you've prayed a prayer.
  • 00:49:10.260 --> 00:49:13.010
  • I'm not asking if you say Grace before meals
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  • or if you come to church.
  • 00:49:15.150 --> 00:49:17.020
  • I'm not even asking if you believe in Jesus.
  • 00:49:17.040 --> 00:49:20.000
  • I am asking: "Are you a follower of Jesus?"
  • 00:49:20.020 --> 00:49:24.060
  • Because one day there are many who say "I am a follower"
  • 00:49:24.080 --> 00:49:29.070
  • that will stand before God and be declared fans.
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  • Did you sleep?
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  • Not much.
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  • I couldn't stop... reading this.
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  • It's years of thoughts and prayers for all of us.
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  • Did you not like living here?
  • 00:49:52.260 --> 00:49:57.000
  • Why?
  • 00:49:57.020 --> 00:50:00.000
  • Dad said you didn't.
  • 00:50:00.020 --> 00:50:04.000
  • When did he tell you that?
  • 00:50:04.020 --> 00:50:06.180
  • [sighs]
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  • Is it true?
  • 00:50:14.030 --> 00:50:16.210
  • Then why did you let us move?
  • 00:50:16.230 --> 00:50:20.250
  • Because I wanted to be a good wife.
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  • And I thought he would resent me if I didn't.
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  • Did you think that was a good reason?
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  • If it got me to do what I should do, then yes.
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  • It's time to go.
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  • 00:50:55.030 --> 00:51:02.170
  • 00:51:02.170 --> 00:51:10.000
  • 00:51:10.210 --> 00:51:20.220
  • Not long ago I was traveling from Cincinnati, Ohio,
  • 00:51:32.080 --> 00:51:36.010
  • to my home in Louisville, Kentucky.
  • 00:51:36.030 --> 00:51:38.000
  • It's about an hour-long drive.
  • 00:51:38.020 --> 00:51:39.210
  • It was a beautiful day.
  • 00:51:39.230 --> 00:51:41.060
  • I was just kind of enjoying the journey,
  • 00:51:41.080 --> 00:51:42.290
  • excited to get home and have dinner with my family.
  • 00:51:43.010 --> 00:51:45.090
  • But about the time I thought I would be pulling into
  • 00:51:45.110 --> 00:51:47.140
  • Louisville, I come across this sign that says,
  • 00:51:47.160 --> 00:51:52.080
  • "Welcome to Lexington."
  • 00:51:52.100 --> 00:51:55.150
  • Lexington is still about an hour away from Louisville.
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  • I'm not the only one who's done this;
  • 00:51:58.150 --> 00:52:00.220
  • there's plenty of other people who've done this before me.
  • 00:52:00.240 --> 00:52:03.130
  • But coming out of Cincinnati, Ohio, the 71 to Louisville
  • 00:52:03.150 --> 00:52:07.240
  • splits off of the 75, and the 71 split-off
  • 00:52:07.260 --> 00:52:11.260
  • is really easy to miss.
  • 00:52:11.280 --> 00:52:14.160
  • And so I'm traveling down the 75, fully convinced that
  • 00:52:14.180 --> 00:52:18.230
  • I'm on the 71 because the roads feel very much the same.
  • 00:52:18.250 --> 00:52:25.020
  • Now, in hindsight, I should have seen some signs.
  • 00:52:25.040 --> 00:52:29.230
  • I'm sure there were some very clear markers
  • 00:52:29.250 --> 00:52:34.280
  • that I was on the wrong road.
  • 00:52:35.000 --> 00:52:36.270
  • But I was so sure of myself, I never allowed
  • 00:52:36.290 --> 00:52:40.120
  • for the possibility that I was going the wrong direction.
  • 00:52:40.140 --> 00:52:43.180
  • So I guess I can't help but wonder,
  • 00:52:54.050 --> 00:52:56.290
  • what if there are many people who are traveling through life
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  • and they've set the cruise control
  • 00:53:03.270 --> 00:53:06.070
  • and they've turned up their Christian music,
  • 00:53:06.090 --> 00:53:09.260
  • maybe even got a Jesus fish on the bumper,
  • 00:53:09.280 --> 00:53:12.180
  • and they think they're traveling down the narrow path
  • 00:53:12.200 --> 00:53:15.080
  • that leads to life...but really
  • 00:53:15.100 --> 00:53:20.130
  • they're on the broad road that leads to destruction?
  • 00:53:20.150 --> 00:53:24.290
  • I don't want anyone to be paranoid or fearful.
  • 00:53:25.010 --> 00:53:28.240
  • I believe what the Bible teaches on Salvation,
  • 00:53:28.260 --> 00:53:31.190
  • that nothing can separate me from the love of Christ.
  • 00:53:31.210 --> 00:53:34.070
  • I believe in him who is able to keep me from falling.
  • 00:53:34.090 --> 00:53:37.280
  • But I also believe what the Bible teaches,
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  • that there are many who think they're saved,
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  • and one day will find out differently.
  • 00:53:43.210 --> 00:53:47.240
  • Jesus also said, "Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,'
  • 00:53:47.260 --> 00:53:51.280
  • "will enter the kingdom of heaven,
  • 00:53:52.000 --> 00:53:54.050
  • "but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.
  • 00:53:54.070 --> 00:53:57.200
  • "Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord,
  • 00:53:57.220 --> 00:54:00.210
  • "did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name
  • 00:54:00.230 --> 00:54:03.150
  • "drive out demons and perform many miracles?'
  • 00:54:03.170 --> 00:54:07.000
  • "And I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you.
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  • Away from me, you evil doers.'"
  • 00:54:11.080 --> 00:54:14.070
  • And Jesus doesn't say this will happen to a few,
  • 00:54:14.090 --> 00:54:17.030
  • he doesn't say "some,"
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  • he says "many."
  • 00:54:19.160 --> 00:54:21.290
  • And there's a few questions from Matthew 7
  • 00:54:24.030 --> 00:54:25.240
  • we need to ask ourselves.
  • 00:54:25.260 --> 00:54:27.280
  • First question:
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  • Do I think I'm a Christian
  • 00:54:30.260 --> 00:54:32.220
  • just because I say I'm a Christian?
  • 00:54:32.240 --> 00:54:35.280
  • In verse 21, Jesus makes a distinction between
  • 00:54:36.000 --> 00:54:38.120
  • those who say and those who do.
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  • He separates those two groups.
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  • Now, to be clear, we're not saved by what we do;
  • 00:54:43.240 --> 00:54:47.120
  • we're saved by what's been done for us through Jesus Christ
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  • on the cross.
  • 00:54:50.080 --> 00:54:52.000
  • But what we do and how we live is ultimately the evidence of
  • 00:54:52.020 --> 00:54:56.070
  • what we say we truly believe.
  • 00:54:56.090 --> 00:54:58.280
  • That's why James in the New Testament says,
  • 00:54:59.000 --> 00:55:01.050
  • "Faith without action is dead."
  • 00:55:01.070 --> 00:55:04.160
  • And so, confessing Jesus as Lord,
  • 00:55:04.180 --> 00:55:08.040
  • it's not just something we say with our mouths;
  • 00:55:08.060 --> 00:55:12.220
  • it's something we do with our lives.
  • 00:55:12.240 --> 00:55:15.240
  • (Eric) "Lord, I'm scared.
  • 00:55:17.090 --> 00:55:19.120
  • "When I see how much Natalie's grown,
  • 00:55:19.140 --> 00:55:21.160
  • "I realize I wasted so much time.
  • 00:55:21.180 --> 00:55:25.200
  • "She's already in college.
  • 00:55:25.220 --> 00:55:28.000
  • "There's so much she needs to know,
  • 00:55:28.020 --> 00:55:30.280
  • "and I don't know if I can teach her.
  • 00:55:31.000 --> 00:55:33.120
  • "I've asked her to volunteer at the Center.
  • 00:55:33.140 --> 00:55:37.250
  • I'm desperately hoping she will."
  • 00:55:37.270 --> 00:55:40.140
  • [cookware crashes]
  • 00:55:40.160 --> 00:55:42.270
  • Ah!
  • 00:55:45.130 --> 00:55:48.110
  • Are you alright?
  • 00:55:48.130 --> 00:55:49.240
  • No!
  • 00:55:49.260 --> 00:55:51.080
  • That girl out there, she infuriates me!
  • 00:55:51.100 --> 00:55:53.110
  • The one in Who?the red jacket.
  • 00:55:53.130 --> 00:55:54.290
  • She thinks I'm here to just wait on her hand and foot
  • 00:55:55.010 --> 00:55:56.240
  • while all she does is eat and sleep.
  • 00:55:56.260 --> 00:55:58.050
  • I don't know. What's her name?
  • 00:55:58.070 --> 00:55:59.200
  • Because Why not?she hates me.
  • 00:55:59.220 --> 00:56:02.180
  • I'm sure once she gets to know you, she's gonna--
  • 00:56:02.200 --> 00:56:04.240
  • That's not gonna happen.
  • 00:56:04.260 --> 00:56:06.250
  • Why are you doing this?
  • 00:56:06.270 --> 00:56:08.080
  • Because she makes me angry!
  • 00:56:08.100 --> 00:56:10.050
  • She's so rude!
  • 00:56:10.070 --> 00:56:11.180
  • No, that's not what I mean. I mean, why are you even here?
  • 00:56:11.200 --> 00:56:14.140
  • Because you asked me to be.
  • 00:56:14.160 --> 00:56:16.180
  • Imagine that I take my family away on a trip for a month,
  • 00:56:23.230 --> 00:56:28.040
  • and while we're gone a young, married couple comes over
  • 00:56:28.060 --> 00:56:30.240
  • to our house to housesit for us and my wife and I
  • 00:56:30.260 --> 00:56:33.200
  • put together this notebook of all the information they
  • 00:56:33.220 --> 00:56:36.120
  • could possibly need to watch over things while we're away,
  • 00:56:36.140 --> 00:56:39.170
  • and so it tells them when to water the plants
  • 00:56:39.190 --> 00:56:42.220
  • and how to take care of our pets.
  • 00:56:42.240 --> 00:56:45.160
  • There's details in the notebook like,
  • 00:56:45.180 --> 00:56:48.140
  • "Trash day is Thursday morning,
  • 00:56:48.160 --> 00:56:50.050
  • so make sure you get it out Wednesday night,"
  • 00:56:50.070 --> 00:56:52.050
  • and "The toilet in the basement leaks,
  • 00:56:52.070 --> 00:56:54.130
  • "so be sure you know where the shutoff valve is
  • 00:56:54.150 --> 00:56:56.230
  • for the water."
  • 00:56:56.250 --> 00:56:58.130
  • And let's just imagine that the couple is very appreciative
  • 00:56:58.150 --> 00:57:00.220
  • of this notebook and they commit to doing everything it says,
  • 00:57:00.240 --> 00:57:05.120
  • but let's say we come back 30 days later and as
  • 00:57:05.140 --> 00:57:11.040
  • we're pulling into the driveway we can see where the trash
  • 00:57:11.060 --> 00:57:14.200
  • has just piled up; they haven't gotten it out at all.
  • 00:57:14.220 --> 00:57:17.280
  • And the plants have died and the toilet in the basement
  • 00:57:18.000 --> 00:57:21.100
  • has been overflowing; the whole thing is flooded.
  • 00:57:21.120 --> 00:57:24.070
  • And then I look out in the backyard and it's--
  • 00:57:24.090 --> 00:57:26.120
  • it's a pet cemetery out there.
  • 00:57:26.140 --> 00:57:28.160
  • All of the pets have been buried.
  • 00:57:28.180 --> 00:57:31.000
  • And let's imagine they come over to us with the notebook
  • 00:57:31.020 --> 00:57:33.220
  • and they're excited to see us, and they go on and on
  • 00:57:33.240 --> 00:57:36.080
  • about how helpful the information is
  • 00:57:36.100 --> 00:57:39.110
  • and they say that they've memorized certain sections,
  • 00:57:39.130 --> 00:57:43.050
  • that at night they would read different pieces of the notebook
  • 00:57:43.070 --> 00:57:45.270
  • together and they would highlight different areas
  • 00:57:45.290 --> 00:57:48.100
  • they thought were really important.
  • 00:57:48.120 --> 00:57:50.000
  • They even started a small group with other couples
  • 00:57:50.020 --> 00:57:52.020
  • that came over to read this notebook together.
  • 00:57:52.040 --> 00:57:54.140
  • What would I say to them?
  • 00:57:54.180 --> 00:57:57.070
  • I would say, "Away from me, you evil doers," right?
  • 00:57:57.090 --> 00:58:02.130
  • Because it's not just about knowing;
  • 00:58:04.040 --> 00:58:08.150
  • it's about doing.
  • 00:58:08.170 --> 00:58:11.060
  • It's not enough just to know the will of the Father,
  • 00:58:11.080 --> 00:58:14.160
  • but we are to live it out.
  • 00:58:14.180 --> 00:58:17.180
  • 00:58:19.040 --> 00:58:25.200
  • And here's the second question:
  • 00:58:32.090 --> 00:58:34.230
  • Do I determine I'm a follower
  • 00:58:34.250 --> 00:58:36.210
  • based on my religious credentials?
  • 00:58:36.230 --> 00:58:40.040
  • If you look at what the fans said to Jesus in Matthew 7,
  • 00:58:40.060 --> 00:58:44.020
  • you hear them defending themselves by saying,
  • 00:58:44.040 --> 00:58:46.280
  • "We prophesied, we drove out demons,
  • 00:58:47.000 --> 00:58:49.150
  • and we performed miracles."
  • 00:58:49.170 --> 00:58:51.180
  • Now, from where I sit, that seems like
  • 00:58:51.200 --> 00:58:54.010
  • a pretty impressive list.
  • 00:58:54.030 --> 00:58:55.230
  • I mean, most of us have never driven out demons
  • 00:58:55.250 --> 00:58:57.200
  • or performed miracles.
  • 00:58:57.220 --> 00:58:59.200
  • But I think that's the point.
  • 00:58:59.220 --> 00:59:01.190
  • That Jesus uses these impressive, dramatic examples
  • 00:59:01.210 --> 00:59:05.250
  • to help us understand that no matter how great
  • 00:59:05.270 --> 00:59:09.200
  • our religious credentials may seem,
  • 00:59:09.220 --> 00:59:12.160
  • that's not where we put our confidence.
  • 00:59:12.180 --> 00:59:15.030
  • (Eric) "I had a fight with Natalie today.
  • 00:59:16.230 --> 00:59:18.260
  • "Her heart's just not in it.
  • 00:59:18.280 --> 00:59:21.180
  • "I hope I did the right thing.
  • 00:59:21.200 --> 00:59:24.000
  • "If not,
  • 00:59:24.020 --> 00:59:25.230
  • Lord, please show me."
  • 00:59:25.250 --> 00:59:28.080
  • (Natalie) You think you need more ice? Then get it yourself!
  • 00:59:28.100 --> 00:59:30.090
  • What, are your legs broken?
  • 00:59:30.110 --> 00:59:32.100
  • That's enough, Natalie.
  • 00:59:32.120 --> 00:59:33.280
  • I shouldn't have to listen to some dropout tell me
  • 00:59:34.000 --> 00:59:35.150
  • that I'm stupid.
  • 00:59:35.170 --> 00:59:36.280
  • Who said you're stupid?
  • 00:59:37.000 --> 00:59:38.090
  • Who do you think?
  • 00:59:38.110 --> 00:59:41.060
  • What's her name, Natalie?
  • 00:59:41.080 --> 00:59:44.130
  • You don't need to be here; go home.
  • 00:59:44.150 --> 00:59:46.190
  • What? Why?
  • 00:59:46.210 --> 00:59:48.000
  • Just because I don't know her name?
  • 00:59:48.020 --> 00:59:51.200
  • Because you don't want to.
  • 00:59:51.220 --> 00:59:54.250
  • (Kyle) One of the clues that you may be more of a fan
  • 00:59:59.280 --> 01:00:03.160
  • is when I asked, "Are you a follower?"
  • 01:00:03.180 --> 01:00:06.080
  • Your mind immediately went to the fact that
  • 01:00:06.100 --> 01:00:10.000
  • you go to church on the weekend or you put money in the plate
  • 01:00:10.020 --> 01:00:13.170
  • when it goes by or your serve from time to time.
  • 01:00:13.190 --> 01:00:16.250
  • Now, there's nothing wrong with those things,
  • 01:00:16.270 --> 01:00:20.000
  • but do you really think that God needs your help?
  • 01:00:20.020 --> 01:00:23.150
  • Do you really think that you can somehow earn his favor
  • 01:00:23.170 --> 01:00:27.160
  • by working your way through some religious checklist?
  • 01:00:27.180 --> 01:00:31.080
  • See, God wants you to know that it's not by good works
  • 01:00:31.100 --> 01:00:35.260
  • that you earn acceptance and love from him.
  • 01:00:35.280 --> 01:00:38.290
  • It's not your good deeds that he's an interested in,
  • 01:00:39.010 --> 01:00:42.170
  • as it is you.
  • 01:00:42.190 --> 01:00:44.160
  • He wants an intimate relationship with you,
  • 01:00:44.180 --> 01:00:47.100
  • where you know him and he knows you.
  • 01:00:47.120 --> 01:00:53.110
  • And really, that is the question, isn't it?
  • 01:00:53.130 --> 01:00:57.020
  • Do you know Jesus?
  • 01:00:57.040 --> 01:00:59.210
  • Does he know you?
  • 01:00:59.230 --> 01:01:01.200
  • That's what it comes down to.
  • 01:01:01.220 --> 01:01:03.250
  • Does he have your heart?
  • 01:01:03.270 --> 01:01:05.130
  • Is he your everything?
  • 01:01:05.150 --> 01:01:07.030
  • Do you invest more in your relationship with him
  • 01:01:07.050 --> 01:01:09.060
  • than any other relationship?
  • 01:01:09.080 --> 01:01:11.240
  • I think we sometimes confuse knowing about Jesus
  • 01:01:11.260 --> 01:01:15.160
  • with knowing Jesus.
  • 01:01:15.180 --> 01:01:18.050
  • But there is a difference between knowledge and intimacy.
  • 01:01:18.070 --> 01:01:22.270
  • I wanna come back.
  • 01:01:29.050 --> 01:01:31.060
  • No.
  • 01:01:31.120 --> 01:01:32.250
  • Look, I won't complain anymore.
  • 01:01:32.270 --> 01:01:34.290
  • It's not about that.
  • 01:01:35.010 --> 01:01:36.200
  • I get frustrated and complain sometimes too, Nat.
  • 01:01:36.220 --> 01:01:39.080
  • Well then, why can't I come back?
  • 01:01:39.100 --> 01:01:40.240
  • Why do you wanna come back?
  • 01:01:40.260 --> 01:01:42.150
  • Because this is what we're supposed to do, right?
  • 01:01:42.170 --> 01:01:45.180
  • I mean, we decide that we wanna follow Jesus,
  • 01:01:45.200 --> 01:01:49.050
  • we sell all of our stuff,
  • 01:01:49.070 --> 01:01:51.060
  • we quit our good jobs, we sell our homes,
  • 01:01:51.080 --> 01:01:54.010
  • I mean, it stinks but we suck it up and we do it anyway, right?
  • 01:01:54.030 --> 01:01:57.050
  • I mean, this is what we're supposed to do, isn't it?
  • 01:01:57.070 --> 01:02:00.270
  • That's what I'm supposed to do.
  • 01:02:00.290 --> 01:02:05.020
  • I don't want people to say that I'm fake.
  • 01:02:06.190 --> 01:02:11.040
  • Nat, it's not how much we give, it's not how much we do.
  • 01:02:11.060 --> 01:02:18.190
  • You know what separates the real from the fakes?
  • 01:02:18.210 --> 01:02:22.170
  • Love.
  • 01:02:25.250 --> 01:02:27.280
  • Is she here?
  • 01:02:37.180 --> 01:02:39.270
  • Yeah.
  • 01:02:39.290 --> 01:02:43.120
  • Can I go talk to her?
  • 01:02:43.140 --> 01:02:47.030
  • (Kyle) Jesus is not impressed
  • 01:02:56.220 --> 01:02:59.240
  • because his name is on your bumper sticker
  • 01:02:59.260 --> 01:03:02.230
  • or because you have Christian music on your iPod
  • 01:03:02.250 --> 01:03:06.030
  • or because you never miss a weekend at church
  • 01:03:06.050 --> 01:03:09.190
  • or you give to all the right causes.
  • 01:03:09.210 --> 01:03:12.100
  • Those things are all good, but they're only good
  • 01:03:12.120 --> 01:03:15.200
  • to the extent that they are done out of love for him.
  • 01:03:15.220 --> 01:03:19.230
  • Jesus says that he wants us to love him with all of our heart
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  • and soul and mind and strength.
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  • And then he says, "Love your neighbor as yourself."
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  • It is love that reveals us to be real followers
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  • of Jesus Christ.
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  • Jesus said, "By this, all men will know that you are
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  • my disciples, if you love one another," and he wants you
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  • to love your neighbors enough to lay down your life.
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  • He wants you to love him enough to take up your cross.
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  • So for you,
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  • which is it?
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  • What road have you chosen:
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  • fan, or follower?
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  • It all comes down to love.
  • 01:04:08.120 --> 01:04:11.170
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  • Today we are here to celebrate the life of Eric Nelson.
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  • I know that as we do that,
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  • memories will come flooding back.
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  • There will be tears, and that's okay.
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  • The Bible says there is a time to mourn.
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  • There is so much about him that will be missed by so many.
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  • And I know he'll be missed by this room full of friends;
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  • loved ones, who I know will miss him
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  • and miss the difference he made in their lives.
  • 01:04:57.260 --> 01:05:01.010
  • Eric was clearly someone who was special to so many of you.
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  • As I've talked to you, I've discovered that Eric's story
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  • is probably best described as a "before and after" story
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  • because when he decided to completely surrender his life
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  • to Jesus Christ, everything changed.
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  • And though today we are here at his funeral,
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  • in many ways he died on that day.
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  • He died to himself, decided to live for Jesus.
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  • And so how do you remember a life like that?
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  • I've asked a few people who have been impacted
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  • by Eric's life to share some words.
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  • First time I met Eric was 5 years ago on the streets.
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  • I'm not proud of that,
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  • but he was kind enough to feed me and my child.
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  • The next time I met him,
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  • he was offering us a place to stay at the Center.
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  • The Bible says, "Pure and undefiled religion
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  • is to look after widows and orphans,
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  • and to remain unstained by the world."
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  • Eric did that.
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  • He gave us hope.
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  • And we know where he is today.
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  • I met Eric on the worst day of my life.
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  • The last place I ever wanted to be was at the Center.
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  • There was nowhere else to go.
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  • I didn't trust him.
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  • I thought his kindness was an act.
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  • "Nobody could really be like this," I thought.
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  • And at first I hated everyone there,
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  • especially this one girl.
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  • Natalie, you know who I'm talking about.
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  • Hey.
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  • I just wanted to say that I'm sorry.
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  • What I did was totally not cool,
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  • and I shouldn't have talked to you like that,
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  • especially in front of other people.
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  • It was wrong, and I won't do that again.
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  • Will you forgive me?
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  • Yeah.
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  • My name is Natalie.
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  • What's yours?
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  • Lilly.
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  • Well Lilly, it's nice to meet you.
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  • (Lilly) No one has ever apologized to me before,
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  • and when you did,
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  • you showed me your father was real
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  • because his daughter was real.
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  • And that made the Lord real.
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  • And I'm so grateful to all of you.
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  • Eric came over one Saturday morning to help me fix my car.
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  • Before we had the tools out, somehow I was spilling my guts
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  • about problems in my marriage.
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  • We met for coffee for almost 2 years after that.
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  • God used Eric's advice to help save my marriage.
  • 01:09:47.160 --> 01:09:51.100
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  • When our son died last year,
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  • people didn't know how to reach out to us.
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  • They didn't know what to say.
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  • Eric didn't say much of anything, he just listened,
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  • and he prayed.
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  • And that's just what I needed.
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  • Last week, it was the first anniversary of our son's death.
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  • At 9 o'clock that morning, I received a call from Eric.
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  • He just wanted to know how we were holding up.
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  • I couldn't even speak.
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  • He was at our house in 5 minutes.
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  • (male 1) He paid for the entire repair.
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  • He wouldn't even let me repay him back.
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  • He said, "Just bless the next person."
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  • (female 2) Eric would check on us during the week
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  • and he went out of his way to include my son
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  • in camping trips and ball games.
  • 01:11:11.030 --> 01:11:14.210
  • (female 3) He said he would take care of it.
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  • And the whole time my husband was sick,
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  • the meals just kept coming.
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  • I don't know how Eric got it all organized,
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  • but he kept his word.
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  • (male 2) I'd never felt so alone,
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  • but Eric was there
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  • when no one else wanted to have anything to do with me.
  • 01:11:33.020 --> 01:11:36.030
  • (female 4) Somehow Eric heard that I had hurt my back, and so
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  • there he was with Tony, mowing my lawn and pulling weeds
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  • from the flower bed.
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  • (male 3) He took me to lunch and confronted me about it.
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  • I didn't like it,
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  • but it was what I needed to hear.
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  • And I knew that he really cared about me.
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  • (female 5) I thought Eric had lost his mind, bringing all those kids.
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  • But they worked so hard and they were so kind.
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  • (male 4) I resisted Eric's invitations for a long time,
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  • but I finally went to the Center with him
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  • and it changed my life.
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  • God changed my life.
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  • And I am so grateful.
  • 01:12:19.230 --> 01:12:22.050
  • (male 5) When I finally admitted that I have an addiction,
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  • it was Eric who encouraged me to get the help that I needed.
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  • He was always there.
  • 01:12:33.050 --> 01:12:36.140
  • 01:12:40.150 --> 01:12:45.130
  • It's been said that a funeral is a time
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  • where we gently close the eyes of the dead,
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  • and we open the eyes of the living.
  • 01:12:56.260 --> 01:13:00.230
  • I think one of the best ways that we can remember Eric's
  • 01:13:00.250 --> 01:13:03.230
  • life is to take a few moments and just reflect on our own.
  • 01:13:03.250 --> 01:13:10.080
  • Eric made a decision to completely follow Jesus Christ,
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  • and it changed everything.
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  • How many lives would be different
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  • if you decided to follow Jesus?
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  • Would you pray with me?
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  • Heavenly Father, here in the presence of death,
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  • we thank you that you are the giver of life.
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  • Lord, we thank you that in his life, we had an opportunity
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  • to see what your Son, Jesus, looked like.
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  • It's in Jesus' name that we pray, amen.
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  • I have decided
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  • to follow Jesus
  • 01:14:05.280 --> 01:14:09.240
  • I have decided
  • 01:14:09.260 --> 01:14:13.260
  • to follow Jesus
  • 01:14:13.280 --> 01:14:18.000
  • I have decided
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  • to follow Jesus
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  • No turning back
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  • No turning back
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  • The world behind me
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  • The cross before me
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  • The world behind me
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  • The cross before me
  • 01:14:48.150 --> 01:14:52.050
  • The world behind me
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  • The cross before me
  • 01:14:56.010 --> 01:14:59.290
  • No turning back
  • 01:15:00.030 --> 01:15:03.150
  • No turning back
  • 01:15:03.170 --> 01:15:07.000
  • I have decided
  • 01:15:12.180 --> 01:15:16.110
  • to follow Jesus
  • 01:15:16.130 --> 01:15:20.100
  • I have decided
  • 01:15:20.120 --> 01:15:24.100
  • to follow Jesus
  • 01:15:24.120 --> 01:15:28.160
  • I have decided
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  • to follow Jesus
  • 01:15:32.200 --> 01:15:36.140
  • No turning back
  • 01:15:36.160 --> 01:15:40.080
  • No turning back
  • 01:15:40.100 --> 01:15:43.110
  • I have decided
  • 01:15:45.060 --> 01:15:48.210
  • to follow Jesus
  • 01:15:48.230 --> 01:15:52.200
  • I have decided
  • 01:15:52.220 --> 01:15:56.200
  • to follow Jesus
  • 01:15:56.220 --> 01:16:00.220
  • I have decided
  • 01:16:00.240 --> 01:16:04.210
  • to follow Jesus
  • 01:16:04.230 --> 01:16:08.210
  • No turning back
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  • No turning back
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  • Mom...
  • 01:16:14.160 --> 01:16:17.140
  • Dad taught me that
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  • the reason that we do things matters.
  • 01:16:25.020 --> 01:16:28.210
  • And...
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  • I wanna have a life like his.
  • 01:16:32.250 --> 01:16:37.150
  • And I want you to.
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  • I do, too.
  • 01:16:43.060 --> 01:16:46.050
  • No turning back
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  • No turning back
  • 01:16:52.040 --> 01:16:55.180
  • (Frank) How dare you!
  • 01:17:03.140 --> 01:17:04.240
  • You think you can just steal my clients?
  • 01:17:04.260 --> 01:17:06.150
  • I was relieving them from your incompetence.
  • 01:17:06.170 --> 01:17:09.110
  • I quit.
  • 01:17:09.130 --> 01:17:11.010
  • (Mr. Nelson) God wants us to provide for our families, doesn't he?
  • 01:17:13.040 --> 01:17:16.020
  • Eric could have done a lot better than this.
  • 01:17:16.040 --> 01:17:19.070
  • (Gary) If Eric is so good, and God is so good, why is Eric gone?
  • 01:17:19.090 --> 01:17:24.040
  • You know Gary, there is no easy answer to that question.
  • 01:17:24.060 --> 01:17:28.120
  • Well, maybe the answer is because neither one of them
  • 01:17:28.140 --> 01:17:30.190
  • is as good as people let on.
  • 01:17:30.210 --> 01:17:33.090
  • (Kyle) I said, "No, Jesus didn't teach that.
  • 01:17:34.030 --> 01:17:37.030
  • "He taught the exact opposite of moderation in all things.
  • 01:17:37.050 --> 01:17:40.090
  • "He taught that if you wanted follow him,
  • 01:17:40.110 --> 01:17:42.090
  • it would cost you everything."
  • 01:17:42.110 --> 01:17:44.120
  • Go ahead, walk away, you've been walking away from God
  • 01:17:44.140 --> 01:17:46.060
  • all your life, why should today be any different?
  • 01:17:46.080 --> 01:17:47.200
  • I walked away from it because I thought he was like you!
  • 01:17:47.220 --> 01:17:51.140
  • (Eric's boss) Three years ago you became a bleeding heart,
  • 01:17:51.160 --> 01:17:53.020
  • and ever since, we've been bleeding money.
  • 01:17:53.040 --> 01:17:55.100
  • Now you do this, or you clean out your office.
  • 01:17:55.120 --> 01:17:58.100
  • (Mr. Nelson) Haven't I always done what you said?
  • 01:17:58.120 --> 01:18:00.020
  • Why are you punishing me?
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  • 01:18:04.020 --> 01:18:11.120
  • 01:18:11.120 --> 01:18:18.290
  • 01:18:19.180 --> 01:18:26.010
  • 01:18:26.010 --> 01:18:33.160
  • (Kyle) Are you a fan,
  • 01:18:35.130 --> 01:18:37.080
  • or are you a follower?
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