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Joshua's Conquest: Jericho

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  • Jim Scudder: I'm Jim Scudder.
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  • Today on "In Grace," we have a brand-new series about
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  • the conquest of Joshua.
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  • The battle for the Bible begins at Jericho.
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  • Jim: Ever since I was a boy, I've been fascinated
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  • with God's creation.
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  • I'm traveling the planet to tell his story about his world.
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  • I'm Jim Scudder, Jr.
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  • Come with me on another exciting adventure in grace.
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  • Jim: My whole life I've been fascinated by the story of
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  • Jericho in the Bible, God's people finally entering the
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  • Promised Land, only defined the first city to conquest had walls
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  • that reached into the heavens, but their fearless leader
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  • Joshua persuades them to trust the Lord.
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  • And so, they march around the city once for six days, and
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  • seven times the seventh day, and blew their trumpets and shouted,
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  • and the mighty walls came tumbling down.
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  • When I began to study for the ministry, I was shocked to learn
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  • that many scholars did not believe the biblical account of
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  • Jericho in the Book of Joshua.
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  • They said because of the work of British archaeologist Kathleen
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  • Kenyon, the city was already in ruins when Joshua arrived.
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  • If the Bible is wrong about Jericho, than the entire story
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  • of Israel would come tumbling down.
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  • Something had to be very wrong and the chief suspect in my mind
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  • had to be the archaeology.
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  • Then I came across the work of an amazing archaeologist named
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  • Dr. Bryant Wood.
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  • Like me, he believed the Bible and he began to put his PhD
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  • studies in ancient Canaanite pottery to use as he took
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  • a new look at Kenyon's work at Jericho.
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  • The film crew and I went out to his home near Lancaster,
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  • Pennsylvania to get the real story about Jericho.
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  • Jim: Dr. Bryant Wood, we are thankful for you because you
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  • have done a lot of research on some very important areas in
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  • relation to the Bible and the Old Testament.
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  • Dr. Bryant Wood: Well, I'm glad to be with you and share
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  • some of this material with you and your audience.
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  • Jim: You're taking the Bible, and this is what I love,
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  • and you're using it to look where to dig in Israel.
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  • Dr. Bryant: Yes.
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  • When you do an excavation, you get a lot of data, pottery,
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  • artifacts, buildings, and tools, and all kinds of material,
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  • but it's silent.
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  • It has to be interpreted and the Bible is your number-one source
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  • for the history of that area and what took place there
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  • in antiquity.
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  • Jim: The Bible gives us many details to look for as we dig,
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  • a heavily fortified city prepared for a long siege.
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  • We should find walls that had collapsed beneath themself
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  • making a ramp into the city, except the north wall containing
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  • Rahab's house should still be standing.
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  • And burnt jars full of precious grain.
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  • Dr. Scott Stripling, a brilliant archaeologist who is directing
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  • Israel's largest excavations at Shiloh agreed to show us
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  • the evidence at Jericho.
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  • Jim: All right, Scott. Here is a cheesy pilgrim map.
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  • But cheesy or not, pilgrims have been coming to this land
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  • for centuries.
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  • Dr. Scott Stripling: Well, we just are traveling
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  • the ancient pilgrimage with drone.
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  • It starts in Jerusalem, it goes to Jericho, crosses over into
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  • Jordan to mountain Nebo, so we're right on it.
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  • Jim: We want to tell the story of the conquest crossing
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  • over the Jordan River and conquering the land, the places.
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  • So, we're gonna start here at Jericho, where do we go next?
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  • Dr. Stripling: All right, from Jericho, we're gonna follow
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  • the Wady Kelt up to AI--
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  • Then at the end of Joshua 8, they went to Mount Ebal so
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  • that's where we'll go.
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  • From Mount Ebal, we'll go back to Shiloh with the tabernacle is
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  • erected.
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  • Jim: This is gonna be an adventure?
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  • Dr. Stripling: It's gonna be the adventure of a lifetime.
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  • Jim: But, you know, this rental van is comfortable and
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  • cool, but, you know, I think we need something a little more
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  • authentic.
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  • Dr. Stripling: Our options are donkeys or camels.
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  • Jim: Well, Ebraham was just here and he has a donkey, but I
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  • think the donkey is not gonna be able to support me, probably
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  • gonna be okay with you.
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  • But why don't we do camels?
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  • Dr. Stripling: All right, let's do it.
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  • Jim: So, let's have him negotiate us some camels.
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  • Dr. Stripling: All right, sounds good.
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  • Jim: Well, we finally received a call from Ebraham
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  • that he had found us our camels to ride into the ancient ruin
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  • of Jericho.
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  • And then I find out that Dr. Scott is very competitive, so
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  • now it's a race into Jericho.
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  • Jim: All right, here's what we're doing.
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  • We're gonna ride into Jericho in style, race, camel race.
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  • I think the bigger one might look faster, Scott, but I'm
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  • thinking it's got a lot more to carry.
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  • Dr. Stripling: Jim, when you get on him, he'll really have a
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  • lot more to carry so.
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  • Jim: Okay, may the best man win.
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  • Dr. Stripling: You got it.
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  • Jim: You better be ready. Do you have a seatbelt for him?
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  • Dr. Stripling: I'd like to say to all the people out there
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  • in Jim's viewing audience, pray for him.
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  • He's going to need it right now.
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  • Jim: Two camels and we're gonna race.
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  • Dr. Stripling: Shoo Shoo and I are gonna take him down.
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  • Jim: And we're gonna race, okay?
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  • Yeah, good job, Shoo Shoo.
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  • Okay, nice.
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  • Good camel, good camel.
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  • Okay, all right. Let's go to Jericho.
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  • We're going to Jericho, cowboy.
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  • Dr. Stripling: Shoo Shoo, good camel.
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  • Jim: How come I'm taller than you, Scott?
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  • Dr. Stripling: Shoo Shoo's a little shorter.
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  • Jim: I'm fixing to win this race.
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  • Dr. Stripling: I think right now I'm slightly in the lead.
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  • Jim: Have you ever heard of the tortoise and the hare?
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  • Dr. Stripling: I have.
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  • Hey, hey, hey, keep your camel away from my camel.
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  • Jim: Come on.
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  • Jim: As you probably expected, I did beat Scott.
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  • I think he'll eventually get over it.
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  • Hopefully, he'll still show us Jericho.
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  • Jim: We're in the parking lot going into Jericho and just
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  • thinking well, it's just a parking lot.
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  • Well, there is peacocks so that's kind of cool,
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  • showing off.
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  • Also in Israel, everywhere you walk something
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  • significant happens.
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  • Dr. Stripling: Well, if you think about it, Jim, there's the
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  • the walls of Jericho that we're about to go study.
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  • Where we're standing, Israelites were marching around this wall.
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  • So, it's amazing.
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  • Jim: Everywhere in Israel you go, something important
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  • happened.
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  • Dr. Stripling: When you hear people say you can can't trust
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  • the Bible because of the evidence in the archaeological
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  • record, nothing can be further from the truth.
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  • This is the wall of Jericho, that stone wall stood about
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  • 20 feet high, this revetment wall.
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  • It's still standing today.
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  • So, it wasn't the stone walls of Jericho that collapsed.
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  • It was the massive mud brick superstructure that was 30 feet
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  • high that collapsed outward.
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  • And when it did, guess what it created.
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  • A ramp, it created a ramp all the way around the city, except
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  • for a portion of the north side and that's, we're gonna go look
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  • at that side in just a minute.
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  • Jim: In this archaeology and in the Bible, you're looking at
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  • eyewitness accounts where people are--where they were there and
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  • they're telling you what they saw.
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  • Dr. Wood: Well, with regard to the walls falling, the Hebrew
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  • wording there is extremely precise.
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  • The Hebrew word is one word, the walls fell, taketha, and
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  • that literally means fell beneath themselves and that's
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  • exactly what we have there at Jericho, these walls, that when
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  • they fell, had to collapse down the embankment or fall off that
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  • retaining wall beneath themselves.
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  • They were deposited at the base of the tell.
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  • And then the Israelite soldiers went up.
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  • Again, as small detail, but a later writer would have never
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  • known they had to go up.
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  • They would have said they rushed into the city.
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  • But the Bible says they went
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  • up into the city, very precise
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  • eyewitness account.
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  • Dr. Stripling: You can see where it collapsed outward and
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  • in the bog, the remnant of that red mud brick that
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  • created the ramp.
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  • And the Bible's very specific, the Israelites went up
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  • into the city.
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  • Jim: And it sounds like anywhere they were around the
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  • city, they could have gone up into the city.
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  • Dr. Stripling: So, that simultaneously they would have
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  • sieged the city.
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  • The inhabitants had no chance.
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  • Jim: And you can almost imagine the size of this walk
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  • 'cause it would have been, what, six feet wide?
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  • And that would have been 30 feet tall.
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  • And you're already how far above the ground?
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  • Dr. Stripling: Twenty feet at its highest point of stone.
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  • So, the stone wall's 20 feet, the mud brick is another 30, so
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  • 50 feet.
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  • Jim: And then you have another course of mud bricks at
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  • the top of the tell that are the same height.
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  • So, when the Bible describes it as a city reaching up into the
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  • heavens, it must have looked impossible.
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  • Dr. Stripling: Yeah, what the Israelites have learned in the
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  • wilderness is that if we'll do it God's way, everything is
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  • gonna work out.
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  • Jim: And here's evidence of that.
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  • Dr. Stripling: So, let's check it out.
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  • Dr. Wood: Well, because of Kathleen Kenyon's reputation as
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  • a good archaeologist,
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  • her ideas about the dating were accepted without question.
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  • She was an excellent field archaeologist, excellent
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  • excavator, very detailed.
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  • And what she failed to do was to actually analyze all of that
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  • local Canaanite pottery that she had found.
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  • She based her opinion on the lack of imported pottery, which
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  • is an argument from silence, you know?
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  • Jim: So, that's a flawed argument.
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  • And to bring up also, her other analysis of other archaeological
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  • sites have all been rejected.
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  • The only one that's still held on to is Jericho.
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  • We should, perhaps, rethink that.
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  • Dr. Wood: Yes, the only thing that scholars are hanging on to
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  • is her dating of Jericho because they don't want to face
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  • the alternative.
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  • male: We've now, Jim, excavated about 5% of the land
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  • of the Bible.
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  • You were asking about times that the data that we have seemingly
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  • contradicts something in the Bible.
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  • One of my responses is, do you think the answer might be in the
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  • other 95%?
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  • Jim: The Bible is under attack and it's up to you to
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  • have the answers to know what to say to people that say
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  • archaeology disproves the Bible.
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  • This video will actually help you understand that archaeology
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  • verifies the Bible.
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  • Jim: Well, we are in the north side of the city, so
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  • that's significant because of?
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  • Dr. Stripling: Well, what we know from the archaeological
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  • record matches the biblical account very nicely.
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  • The Bible tells us that the walls of Jericho fell down,
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  • except for one section.
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  • There was a woman named?
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  • Jim: Rahab.
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  • Dr. Stripling: Rahab and we read her about her in the
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  • genealogy of Jesus, don't we?
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  • And the reason it's the North section is where she's believed
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  • to have lived is because it was near the wilderness and the
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  • spies escaped right into that area.
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  • Dr. Stripling: Yeah, and possibly though, it says to the
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  • mountains nearby.
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  • I mean it's probably--
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  • Jim: This would be the closest place to that.
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  • Dr. Stripling: Yeah, and we don't make this stuff up, Jim,
  • 00:12:25.120 --> 00:12:27.000
  • you understand.
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  • We just--this is the way that it was excavated, is all the walls
  • 00:12:28.150 --> 00:12:31.140
  • fell down, except one section on the north.
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  • So, give me another explanation.
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  • Jim: Yeah, yeah, I'll take the Bible.
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  • Well, just have a look.
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  • Jim: You said stop here, there's something very
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  • significant here.
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  • Dr. Stripling: This is city four, Jim, this entire area that
  • 00:12:48.240 --> 00:12:51.280
  • opens up and Garstang executed and part of it, Kenyon
  • 00:12:51.290 --> 00:12:55.220
  • excavated part of it.
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  • In Garstang's section, they had the late bronze Cypriot pottery.
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  • In Kenyon's, which is a more poor residential section, they
  • 00:13:01.140 --> 00:13:04.090
  • only had a little bit.
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  • She concluded it based on that, that no one was here at the time
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  • that the Bible said that they were.
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  • But right next to her and Garstang's section was the more
  • 00:13:10.290 --> 00:13:13.050
  • affluent part, and he had a lot of this pottery there.
  • 00:13:13.060 --> 00:13:16.140
  • So, she's basing her conclusions of some pretty light evidence,
  • 00:13:16.150 --> 00:13:20.030
  • you know, even an argument from absence is always
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  • a weak argument.
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  • Dr. Wood: No doubt about the dating of that destruction and
  • 00:13:27.230 --> 00:13:30.100
  • it agrees exactly with the Bible.
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  • Jim: So, plenty of evidence and you're kind of surprised
  • 00:13:34.050 --> 00:13:36.260
  • by this, right?
  • 00:13:36.270 --> 00:13:38.220
  • And you're like, why, why isn't anyone talking about this?
  • 00:13:38.230 --> 00:13:41.100
  • Done extensive study of all of that and it's accessible even
  • 00:13:41.110 --> 00:13:44.280
  • today, people can look at that.
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  • Dr. Wood: And the first guy that came along that would
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  • question, you know, her dating and look into this issue.
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  • Jim: How has your analysis been received?
  • 00:13:56.020 --> 00:13:58.010
  • Dr. Wood: Kind of with a ho-hum and sort of ignored,
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  • basically, because of the consequences of saying Jericho
  • 00:14:02.030 --> 00:14:10.230
  • was destroyed around 1400 B.C.
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  • Well, that means the Bible was right after all.
  • 00:14:13.250 --> 00:14:20.200
  • Jim: Is the Bible right, or is science archaeology, or just
  • 00:14:21.150 --> 00:14:25.180
  • what we see right?
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  • So, how do you come at this?
  • 00:14:28.130 --> 00:14:30.170
  • male: As a Christian, I'm assuming that the Bible was
  • 00:14:30.180 --> 00:14:34.210
  • innocent until proven guilty.
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  • And I think in a lot of circles, the Bible's guilty until
  • 00:14:36.260 --> 00:14:39.030
  • proven innocent.
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  • My experience has led me to believe since I have found
  • 00:14:40.290 --> 00:14:45.060
  • hundreds of synchronisms between the archaeological data in the
  • 00:14:45.070 --> 00:14:48.190
  • biblical text, my experience has led me to believe that if there
  • 00:14:48.200 --> 00:14:53.240
  • is a seeming discrepancy, we're gonna study it get further, and
  • 00:14:53.250 --> 00:14:58.000
  • we're gonna dig deeper into this, we're gonna understand it
  • 00:14:58.010 --> 00:14:59.160
  • better with more analysis.
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  • Jim: So Scott, everyone agrees that this layer, or city
  • 00:15:03.290 --> 00:15:07.010
  • floor as it's called, was destroyed a major destruction,
  • 00:15:07.020 --> 00:15:10.130
  • fire, sounds a lot like what the Bible says.
  • 00:15:10.140 --> 00:15:14.030
  • But there's debate on the date.
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  • The date that you would hold to and I would hold to is 1400.
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  • What's the evidence say?
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  • Dr. Stripling: Well, a couple of things.
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  • The walls of Jericho were built in the middle bronze age, so
  • 00:15:25.050 --> 00:15:28.020
  • some have argued they're middle bronze age walls, not late
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  • bronze age walls, therefore, the Bible's not true to which I
  • 00:15:30.210 --> 00:15:33.250
  • would respond, I don't care when they were built.
  • 00:15:33.260 --> 00:15:36.000
  • I care when they fell. So, that's irrelevant.
  • 00:15:36.010 --> 00:15:38.220
  • It's a straw man argument.
  • 00:15:38.230 --> 00:15:40.040
  • Others would talk about the pottery.
  • 00:15:40.050 --> 00:15:41.170
  • They would say, "Well, we don't have late bronze age pottery
  • 00:15:41.180 --> 00:15:44.020
  • from that time.
  • 00:15:44.030 --> 00:15:45.180
  • And as we just discussed, we do.
  • 00:15:45.190 --> 00:15:47.060
  • In fact, right here in city four just a few weeks ago, we
  • 00:15:47.070 --> 00:15:49.130
  • saw a piece right there on the surface.
  • 00:15:49.140 --> 00:15:51.240
  • And so Garstang found it in abundance, and Wood has, I
  • 00:15:51.250 --> 00:15:54.120
  • think, proven that conclusively.
  • 00:15:54.130 --> 00:15:55.290
  • Now, another interesting thing, and we're standing at the spot,
  • 00:15:56.000 --> 00:15:58.100
  • are the storage jars.
  • 00:15:58.110 --> 00:15:59.260
  • So, they excavated dozens of very large pithoi storage jars
  • 00:15:59.270 --> 00:16:05.160
  • filled to the top with grain.
  • 00:16:05.170 --> 00:16:08.000
  • The grain on the top was burned.
  • 00:16:08.010 --> 00:16:09.190
  • Now, that means it's right after harvest because the storage jars
  • 00:16:09.200 --> 00:16:13.170
  • are at the top.
  • 00:16:13.180 --> 00:16:15.050
  • It means that there was a conflagration, and it also means
  • 00:16:15.060 --> 00:16:18.090
  • that somebody left that material.
  • 00:16:18.100 --> 00:16:20.160
  • Jim: How unusual is that for an army to leave huge jars
  • 00:16:20.170 --> 00:16:23.170
  • full of grain?
  • 00:16:23.180 --> 00:16:25.020
  • Dr. Stripling: I can't overstate how significant that
  • 00:16:25.030 --> 00:16:26.220
  • is because an army runs on its tummy, all right?
  • 00:16:26.230 --> 00:16:29.120
  • And so, that's worth a fortune in the ancient world.
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  • There is no coins or--there's no money yet, so that's money.
  • 00:16:32.260 --> 00:16:37.110
  • That is a fortune.
  • 00:16:37.120 --> 00:16:39.030
  • And so, we know, of course, the Bible says that this is hedem,
  • 00:16:39.040 --> 00:16:42.010
  • it's off limits.
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  • It's a first fruits offering this left to God.
  • 00:16:43.120 --> 00:16:46.210
  • Jim: So, there's other evidences that you've been
  • 00:16:46.220 --> 00:16:49.060
  • researching and have discovered at Jericho that due date it to
  • 00:16:49.070 --> 00:16:55.100
  • the proper, the biblical date of the conquest, or 1406 B.C.
  • 00:16:55.110 --> 00:17:00.060
  • What some of those other evidences that you found?
  • 00:17:00.070 --> 00:17:04.290
  • Dr. Wood: Garstang dug some tombs nearby.
  • 00:17:05.000 --> 00:17:08.010
  • Fortunately, they were what we call a pit tomb, where the
  • 00:17:08.020 --> 00:17:14.040
  • deceased's remains are just put in one on top of the other.
  • 00:17:14.050 --> 00:17:19.080
  • And so, you have like a layering effect.
  • 00:17:19.090 --> 00:17:22.110
  • And so, when Garstang excavated these tombs, he realized that
  • 00:17:22.120 --> 00:17:28.110
  • and so he was kind of distinguishing between these
  • 00:17:28.120 --> 00:17:31.210
  • various layers and phases.
  • 00:17:31.220 --> 00:17:34.030
  • And fortunately, he found a number of the Egyptian Scarabs
  • 00:17:34.040 --> 00:17:38.130
  • in about three different tombs.
  • 00:17:38.140 --> 00:17:41.130
  • Jim: And the Scarab is a beetle, which is
  • 00:17:41.140 --> 00:17:44.190
  • venerated by the Egyptian, so this is the Egyptian,
  • 00:17:44.200 --> 00:17:49.060
  • is it a token?
  • 00:17:49.070 --> 00:17:50.240
  • Dr. Wood: Kind of an amulet.
  • 00:17:50.250 --> 00:17:52.080
  • Jim: And it has an inscription, though, on the flat
  • 00:17:52.090 --> 00:17:53.260
  • side, on the bottom side.
  • 00:17:53.270 --> 00:17:55.070
  • Dr. Wood: On the bottom.
  • 00:17:55.080 --> 00:17:56.220
  • It's used as kind of a seal for an official.
  • 00:17:56.230 --> 00:17:59.210
  • He'll carve there his name or some design that
  • 00:17:59.220 --> 00:18:03.250
  • would identify him.
  • 00:18:03.260 --> 00:18:06.160
  • And particularly, the Pharaohs.
  • 00:18:06.170 --> 00:18:08.240
  • You know, they would put their, what's called the cartouche.
  • 00:18:08.250 --> 00:18:12.220
  • It's an oval ring that has their name in it.
  • 00:18:12.230 --> 00:18:15.190
  • They would put their cartouche and the bottom of the Scarab.
  • 00:18:15.200 --> 00:18:19.060
  • So, they were used for official purposes, but then they came to
  • 00:18:19.070 --> 00:18:23.120
  • be used for like good luck charms, particularly if it was a
  • 00:18:23.130 --> 00:18:27.040
  • great Pharaoh's name, they had the belief, "Well, this will
  • 00:18:27.050 --> 00:18:30.140
  • bring me good luck."
  • 00:18:30.150 --> 00:18:32.110
  • And so, they made large numbers of these Scarabs.
  • 00:18:32.120 --> 00:18:36.120
  • But with regard to what Garstang found, most of them were of kind
  • 00:18:36.130 --> 00:18:41.010
  • of obscure Pharaohs, or not so popular Pharaohs, so they
  • 00:18:41.020 --> 00:18:45.020
  • weren't reproduced any time after the time when they were
  • 00:18:45.030 --> 00:18:50.060
  • ruling.
  • 00:18:50.070 --> 00:18:51.240
  • Jim: So, you should be able to date those.
  • 00:18:51.250 --> 00:18:53.190
  • Dr. Wood: Yes, so they can be used for dating because, of
  • 00:18:53.200 --> 00:18:56.110
  • course, we have pretty good reliable dates for the Egyptian
  • 00:18:56.120 --> 00:19:00.020
  • pharaohs.
  • 00:19:00.030 --> 00:19:01.210
  • And so, Garstang noted where these Scarabs were, which layer
  • 00:19:01.220 --> 00:19:05.230
  • they were in.
  • 00:19:05.240 --> 00:19:07.160
  • He studied the pottery that was found in conjunction with the
  • 00:19:07.170 --> 00:19:10.240
  • Scarab.
  • 00:19:10.250 --> 00:19:12.210
  • Then when he dug on the tell and he excavated this destruction
  • 00:19:12.220 --> 00:19:17.000
  • layer, he found the same kind of pottery that he found in the
  • 00:19:17.010 --> 00:19:22.160
  • tomb in the 15th century, the time period, Kenyon said nobody
  • 00:19:22.170 --> 00:19:29.190
  • was living there.
  • 00:19:29.200 --> 00:19:31.220
  • So, there's like five or six he found that are just totally key
  • 00:19:31.230 --> 00:19:34.250
  • to dating the pottery.
  • 00:19:34.260 --> 00:19:38.150
  • And so, he did a very good analysis of the pottery and the
  • 00:19:38.160 --> 00:19:42.180
  • Scarabs that were related to the pottery.
  • 00:19:42.190 --> 00:19:45.030
  • And that was his basis for his dating.
  • 00:19:45.040 --> 00:19:48.220
  • He had some other arguments, but basically it's the dating
  • 00:19:48.230 --> 00:19:51.140
  • of the pottery.
  • 00:19:51.150 --> 00:19:53.000
  • Jim: Well, that's very solid.
  • 00:19:53.010 --> 00:19:54.100
  • You have the pottery, you have the Scarabs.
  • 00:19:54.110 --> 00:19:55.260
  • They're lining up and it's also lining up with the biblical
  • 00:19:55.270 --> 00:19:57.110
  • chronology.
  • 00:19:57.120 --> 00:19:58.270
  • Dr. Wood: Yes, Kenyon did find one very
  • 00:19:58.280 --> 00:20:01.180
  • significant Scarab.
  • 00:20:01.190 --> 00:20:03.290
  • It did not have the name of an Egyptian pharaoh, but it was
  • 00:20:04.000 --> 00:20:08.160
  • analyzed by an expert in Scarabs, Daphne Ben-Tor of the
  • 00:20:08.170 --> 00:20:14.040
  • Israel museum.
  • 00:20:14.050 --> 00:20:15.270
  • I think she's in charge of the Egyptian sites in there.
  • 00:20:15.280 --> 00:20:19.000
  • She studied this one Scarab from one of Kenyon's tombs, and she
  • 00:20:19.010 --> 00:20:23.090
  • concluded from the motif that was on the Scarab, it dated to
  • 00:20:23.100 --> 00:20:28.070
  • the early 18th dynasty.
  • 00:20:28.080 --> 00:20:31.230
  • Well, that puts us into the 15th century once again.
  • 00:20:31.240 --> 00:20:36.110
  • And so, Kenyon's very own Scarab is disproving her theory that
  • 00:20:36.120 --> 00:20:42.060
  • there was no occupation at that time.
  • 00:20:42.070 --> 00:20:45.210
  • And so, we have very good strong evidence for the dating
  • 00:20:45.220 --> 00:20:49.180
  • of the destruction.
  • 00:20:49.190 --> 00:20:52.020
  • Dr. Stripling: One other big issue here is the issue of
  • 00:20:52.030 --> 00:20:53.140
  • carbon dating.
  • 00:20:53.150 --> 00:20:55.030
  • And so--
  • 00:20:55.040 --> 00:20:56.140
  • Jim: Yeah, because if you have grain, you can carbon date.
  • 00:20:56.150 --> 00:20:58.070
  • Dr. Stripling: Well, you can and there's been, you know, a
  • 00:20:58.080 --> 00:21:00.040
  • number of carbon dates.
  • 00:21:00.050 --> 00:21:01.180
  • Brunes and Vanderplague most recently I've written
  • 00:21:01.190 --> 00:21:03.030
  • about this.
  • 00:21:03.040 --> 00:21:04.140
  • And so, they come in and about 1550, which seems to support
  • 00:21:04.150 --> 00:21:06.290
  • Kenyon, even though that contradicts the biblical data
  • 00:21:07.000 --> 00:21:09.120
  • and all the other evidence.
  • 00:21:09.130 --> 00:21:10.290
  • Jim: So, what do you do with that?
  • 00:21:11.000 --> 00:21:12.260
  • Dr. Stripling: All right, so here's what we have happening.
  • 00:21:12.270 --> 00:21:14.090
  • Then Egypt at Avaris at Tell El-Dab'A--Manfred Bietah,
  • 00:21:14.100 --> 00:21:18.170
  • senior, extremely respected archaeologist.
  • 00:21:18.180 --> 00:21:20.210
  • Jim: Yeah, well respected, esteemed man.
  • 00:21:20.220 --> 00:21:22.200
  • Dr. Stripling: Yeah, Dean of archaeologists.
  • 00:21:22.210 --> 00:21:24.080
  • He has documented in the last couple of decades, an astounding
  • 00:21:24.090 --> 00:21:28.070
  • gap, if you will, or offset in carbon dates beginning about
  • 00:21:28.080 --> 00:21:32.010
  • 1400, if you can believe it.
  • 00:21:32.020 --> 00:21:34.080
  • The year we need it the most.
  • 00:21:34.090 --> 00:21:36.060
  • And so, what he's not--has no faith commitment.
  • 00:21:36.070 --> 00:21:39.030
  • He has no stake in that game.
  • 00:21:39.040 --> 00:21:40.190
  • He's just saying, "Look, our carbon dates match our other
  • 00:21:40.200 --> 00:21:43.200
  • dating indicators.
  • 00:21:43.210 --> 00:21:45.000
  • Up to this point."
  • 00:21:45.010 --> 00:21:46.150
  • Jim: Something's wrong around that date.
  • 00:21:46.160 --> 00:21:47.250
  • Dr. Stripling: They start straying by 100, 150 years.
  • 00:21:47.260 --> 00:21:50.260
  • And now we're finding the same thing here in Israel too in
  • 00:21:50.270 --> 00:21:53.020
  • sites like Ashkelon, Stratum 11 there, and other side.
  • 00:21:53.030 --> 00:21:56.260
  • So now, other senior archaeologists are joining in
  • 00:21:56.270 --> 00:21:59.070
  • going, "Guys, look, we gotta talk about this.
  • 00:21:59.080 --> 00:22:01.080
  • There's a problem.
  • 00:22:01.090 --> 00:22:02.200
  • So, what are we talking about here?"
  • 00:22:02.210 --> 00:22:04.190
  • 1550 B.C., and there you see that carbon offset.
  • 00:22:04.200 --> 00:22:08.070
  • Jim: And that was that last piece of the puzzle, even with
  • 00:22:08.080 --> 00:22:10.160
  • Bryant Wood was that's the only last thing that came back that
  • 00:22:10.170 --> 00:22:12.230
  • wasn't 1400.
  • 00:22:12.240 --> 00:22:14.080
  • And but they have to calibrate for carbon dating.
  • 00:22:14.090 --> 00:22:18.010
  • Dr. Stripling: Well, that's just it, you know, when we take
  • 00:22:18.020 --> 00:22:20.000
  • carbon samples, and we do use carbon dating, but they have to
  • 00:22:20.010 --> 00:22:22.120
  • be taken very cleanly and properly, then they have to be
  • 00:22:22.130 --> 00:22:25.240
  • tested properly.
  • 00:22:25.250 --> 00:22:27.050
  • And then the numbers come back all over the map, and you grab
  • 00:22:27.060 --> 00:22:30.050
  • an average of those, and then someone calibrates them.
  • 00:22:30.060 --> 00:22:33.090
  • And so, it's not like there's no room for human error in there.
  • 00:22:33.100 --> 00:22:35.290
  • There's a range of dates that you get.
  • 00:22:36.000 --> 00:22:40.250
  • Now, we also find Scarabs in contexts like these, not one in
  • 00:22:40.260 --> 00:22:43.180
  • that burn layer here but here at Jericho, 18th dynasty Scarabs
  • 00:22:43.190 --> 00:22:47.190
  • that also match the biblical date.
  • 00:22:47.200 --> 00:22:50.220
  • Jim: So, everything's lining up.
  • 00:22:50.230 --> 00:22:52.120
  • That last little piece is the carbon dating and you might have
  • 00:22:52.130 --> 00:22:54.200
  • kind of figured that out based on other people's--
  • 00:22:54.210 --> 00:22:58.090
  • Dr. Stripling: Yeah, I mean, I think what we're seeing is
  • 00:22:58.100 --> 00:23:00.290
  • that 1400 back, we're going to have to be very careful in how
  • 00:23:01.000 --> 00:23:04.040
  • we use carbon dates.
  • 00:23:04.050 --> 00:23:07.160
  • Jim: Now, Jericho was used for many years, even today
  • 00:23:09.010 --> 00:23:11.220
  • still, as a proof that the Bible is wrong.
  • 00:23:11.230 --> 00:23:15.240
  • Dr. Wood: Yes, that's right.
  • 00:23:15.250 --> 00:23:17.140
  • Jim: But you went and took a look and you found it, you found
  • 00:23:17.150 --> 00:23:21.100
  • something different than what a lot of people think.
  • 00:23:21.110 --> 00:23:24.290
  • Dr. Wood: Yes, I subjected that archaeology of Jericho to a
  • 00:23:25.000 --> 00:23:30.270
  • very in-depth analysis.
  • 00:23:30.280 --> 00:23:33.110
  • And when we look at those discoveries, how do they line up
  • 00:23:33.120 --> 00:23:36.210
  • with the Bible?
  • 00:23:36.220 --> 00:23:38.170
  • They all agree with the Bible.
  • 00:23:38.180 --> 00:23:41.200
  • And, you know, the exciting thing about biblical archaeology
  • 00:23:41.210 --> 00:23:45.100
  • is new finds that are being made continuously.
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  • Every single new discovery agrees with the Bible,
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  • correlates with the Bible, supports the history of
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  • the Bible.
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  • Jim: So, what should our conclusion be?
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  • Dr. Wood: The whole thing has to be true.
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  • Every test case shows the truth of the Bible.
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  • Jim: What does archaeology matter?
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  • What does the Bible matter?
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  • Really what it all comes down to is that God sent his Son, Jesus,
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  • to this land, and to the people, the Jewish people.
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  • They gave us the Scripture, and they gave us Jesus.
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  • What's the point?
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  • Well, Jesus came as the Son of God who died and rose again.
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  • If he arose then he is God, and God says he loves you, he sent
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  • his Son for you to die for your sins on a cross, and he rose
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  • again the third day.
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  • And if you'll simply believe in him, put your trust in him, your
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  • dependence in him, you will have everlasting life.
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  • Let me show it to you this way.
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  • Let this represent you and me and all of us.
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  • Let this represent our sin.
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  • We have sinned, we cannot get rid of this sin ourself, and
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  • this separates us from a perfect and holy God.
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  • What are we gonna do?
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  • Well, there's good news and that Jesus had no sin.
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  • He was made sin for us.
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  • Did you see what happened?
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  • On the cross, he was perfect and innocent.
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  • He died in our place and by faith in him, watch what
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  • happens, we have eternal life.
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  • That is what it's all about, salvation, eternal life, being
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  • reconciled back to God.
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  • We've got a lot more to share with you, but that's the most
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  • important thing, receiving by faith Jesus.
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  • Jim: The Bible is under attack and it's up to you to
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  • have the answers to know what to say to people that say,
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  • archaeology disproves the Bible.
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  • This video will actually help you understand that archaeology
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  • verifies the Bible.
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  • This is an adventure, but it's also informative.
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  • It'll also help you bring the answers to people that are
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  • questioning God, and questioning the Scriptures.
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  • Jim: Amazingly, we just saw a heavily fortified city prepared
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  • for a long siege with walls that had collapsed beneath themselves
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  • making a ramp into the city.
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  • The north wall's still standing and burnt jars full of
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  • precious grain.
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  • All of this evidence dates exactly to when the Bible said
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  • Jericho was conquered.
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  • Again, man is wrong, and God is right.
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  • But what about the next city of the conquest?
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  • The ruins of Ai have also been used to discredit the Bible.
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  • Join us next time as we dig into that archaeological mystery as
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  • we follow the conquest of Joshua.
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