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December 29, 2016
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Episode 9

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  • - Tim Douglass:
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  • Hi, I'm Tim Douglass.
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  • - Emma Mullings:
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  • And I'm Emma Mullings.
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  • - Tim: And we're gonna make
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  • sure you don't miss a thing.
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  • - Emma: This is
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  • - Brian Houston:
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  • Here's my friend.
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  • He's a prophet for sure.
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  • - Steve Penny:
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  • The thing about prophets
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  • is that they are unusual people,
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  • and only a--don't make
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  • a silly comment now.
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  • - Brian: Well, I was actually
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  • - Niyah Rahmaan: Pastor Bobbie,
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  • now, talk to me.
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  • Tell me about this book.
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  • Where did it come from?
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  • Where was it birthed out of?
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  • - Bobbie Houston: I think
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  • we're livin' in remarkable days.
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  • God is just, you know,
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  • orchestrating something quite
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  • miraculous in his church,
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  • men and women together.
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  • And so, for us, you know,
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  • that book gives expression
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  • to our 20-year,
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  • - Steve McPherson: We should
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  • let people know at home not
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  • to be alarmed by the fact that
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  • there's an ambulance behind
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  • Pastor Brian at the moment.
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  • It's not for Pastor Brian.
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  • - Dave Ware: Then I had this
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  • radical encounter with Jesus
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  • where I just cried out to him.
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  • I always believed when
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  • I was a kid, but I didn't have
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  • a relationship with him.
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  • And I was like, "God, if I'm
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  • meant to be on this planet,
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  • you gotta reach out to me
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  • - Brian: All he had to do, all
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  • - Emma: Well, the foyer studio
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  • has some great guests coming in.
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  • - Niyah: Thanks, guys.
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  • We are so excited to have
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  • with us two of our local campus
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  • worship pastors and worship
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  • leaders with Hillsong Music,
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  • Hannah Hobbs and David Ware.
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  • Welcome, guys.
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  • - Hannah Hobbs:
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  • Thanks for having us.
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  • - Niyah: So, now,
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  • you guys are singer-songwriters
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  • and worship pastors.
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  • You, Hannah,
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  • are over the City Campus, right?
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  • You're in Sydney.
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  • And you are over
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  • our Southwest Campus?
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  • - Dave: Yeah.
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  • - Niyah: That's awesome.
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  • Now, tell us a little bit
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  • about your day to day.
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  • What does that look like?
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  • - Hannah: I guess, as a campus
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  • worship pastor, we're kind
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  • of responsible for anything
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  • creative that happens
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  • through our local church.
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  • So it could be everything from
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  • the music and what you see on
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  • the platform to, like, what you
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  • see on screens, audio, anything
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  • visual, even things like
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  • creative foyer installations
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  • and that kinda stuff.
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  • We, I guess, are a point person
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  • for our campus for anything
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  • creative.
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  • - Dave: Yeah, 100%.
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  • I mean, essentially,
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  • we are a church, and we help
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  • to build the church.
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  • And so it does look like
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  • anything we have, as Hannah
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  • said, from TV to on platform.
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  • But then also, like, kids
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  • creative, and youth creative,
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  • and youth dances, and all.
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  • It's such an array of different
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  • things that you're kind
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  • of organizing.
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  • It's just awesome to see people
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  • get involved at a campus level
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  • in just building the church
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  • through using their gifts.
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  • - Niyah: Oh, I absolutely love
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  • that.
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  • Now, David,
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  • I heard a little birdie
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  • told me a secret about you,
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  • that you used to play the drums?
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  • - Dave: Yeah.
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  • - Niyah: Now, okay, I know you
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  • have an incredible testimony.
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  • Share with us a little bit
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  • about it.
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  • But then also, how did you go
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  • from the drums to havin' a mic
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  • in your hand
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  • to being a worship pastor?
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  • - Dave: I grew up
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  • in New Zealand, in Auckland.
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  • And I grew up
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  • in a pretty rough neighborhood.
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  • And so kind of the surroundings
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  • that I grew up in weren't
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  • very awesome.
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  • Housing commission,
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  • very low-income kinda area.
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  • You know, suffered abuse
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  • when I was, you know,
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  • for over half of my childhood.
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  • And kinda grew up with,
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  • just, broken.
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  • And so as I was a teenager
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  • I started makin' some
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  • pretty bad decisions.
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  • And when I was about 17 and 1/2,
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  • it all kinda just snuck up on me
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  • and just kind of caught up
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  • with me.
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  • I contemplated suicide,
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  • like, for real.
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  • I was just gonna, I thought
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  • being dead would be better
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  • than being on this earth.
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  • And then I had this radical
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  • encounter with Jesus
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  • where I just cried out to him.
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  • I always believed when I was
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  • a kid, but I didn't have
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  • a relationship with him.
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  • And so when I cried out to him,
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  • I was like, "God, if I'm meant
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  • to be on this planet,
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  • you gotta reach out to me
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  • because I've got nothin' else."
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  • And funnily enough,
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  • my workaholic sister
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  • decided she'd come home,
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  • only have a half day that day.
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  • And one of the things I prayed
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  • was, "God, show me why
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  • I'm meant to be on this earth."
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  • And crazy enough is that my
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  • unsaved sister was the person
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  • to walk up to the door.
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  • And so then I made a decision
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  • to follow Jesus.
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  • And only 3 months after that
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  • she made that same decision.
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  • And so it's crazy how
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  • when you ask God for something,
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  • it kinda shows up.
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  • And so from there I started
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  • playing the drums in youth,
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  • and then in church.
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  • And then one week our pastor at
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  • the Southwest Campus was like,
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  • "Hey, we need more guy singers."
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  • And I don't know if it was
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  • because I was a bad drummer,
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  • but the change was made.
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  • And so then the next week
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  • I started singing,
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  • and I haven't played the drums
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  • since in church.
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  • - Niyah: Wow.
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  • - Dave: Yeah.
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  • - Niyah: Wow,
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  • what an incredible story.
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  • Oh my goodness.
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  • Now, Hannah, you are one of the
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  • many women female worship
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  • leaders and singer-songwriters
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  • here at Hillsong.
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  • And you're part
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  • of our key team here.
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  • Tell me, have you always felt
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  • accepted and released to do what
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  • you do in ministry as a woman?
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  • - Hannah: I feel like,
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  • especially in our church, I've
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  • always felt so empowered and
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  • believed in by our leaders, and
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  • especially by our senior pastor,
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  • who is such a, I guess,
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  • champion of women and women,
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  • whether it's preachers,
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  • or pastors, singers,
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  • songwriters, like, I've always
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  • felt so believed in.
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  • And I know that that is not
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  • everybody's story, but I will
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  • say I am so grateful to be part
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  • of an environment in a church
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  • that is so empowering of women.
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  • And so I guess, to answer your
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  • question, like, I have really
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  • felt so believed in and backed
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  • as a woman who is in ministry.
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  • I'm a full-time pastor.
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  • I work full time for our church,
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  • and I love what I do.
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  • I'm so thankful
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  • that I get to do this as a job.
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  • It kind of blows my mind,
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  • to be honest.
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  • - Dave: She brings through
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  • some of the best.
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  • Some people like Taya Smith
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  • and Alex Pappas have come
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  • under her leadership.
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  • So she has this real crazy
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  • ability to, like, see potential
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  • in people and bring it out.
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  • And she's amazing.
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  • I thought I'd add that in
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  • 'cause--
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  • - Niyah: C'mon.
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  • What would you say to some
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  • of the girls that might be,
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  • or women that are watching this,
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  • our viewers that are home that
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  • have these songs in their heart,
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  • and they're just like,
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  • "Well, I can't step out.
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  • I'm a woman.
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  • And I maybe just can't step out
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  • and get out there and do it."
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  • What would you say to them?
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  • - Hannah: I think my
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  • encouragement would be, like,
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  • don't worry too much about
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  • whether you're a woman or not.
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  • If that's a God dream
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  • that he's placed inside of you,
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  • then you can fully trust God
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  • with that dream in your heart.
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  • And I know for me, personally,
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  • like, as a young person,
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  • it was actually
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  • at a Hillsong Conference
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  • the first time that I actually
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  • felt like God spoke to me
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  • about being a songwriter
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  • and being a leader in ministry.
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  • And at the time,
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  • as a 13-year-old girl, I was
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  • just like, "I can't imagine how
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  • that could ever happen.
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  • I can't see how that would
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  • be possible, God."
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  • But it was a dream.
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  • Like, it began in me then.
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  • And it's really, for me, been
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  • a journey of just trusting God,
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  • like, that he would bring it
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  • to pass at the right time.
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  • And so often we get frustrated
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  • and try and make it happen
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  • in our own strength.
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  • But God put that dream in us.
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  • And so we can trust him with the
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  • dreams of our heart, you know?
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  • - Niyah: And he put that dream
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  • at a Hillsong Conference?
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  • - Hannah: That's right, yeah,
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  • at my very first
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  • Hillsong Conference.
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  • I was 13.
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  • A friend of mine signed me up
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  • for Hillsong Conference
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  • without me even knowing,
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  • called my mom and locked it in.
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  • And she said to me at church on
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  • a Sunday night, "You're going to
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  • Hillsong Conference tomorrow."
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  • And so I was like,
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  • "Okay, I don't know
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  • what that is, but I'm in."
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  • And it was genuinely the very
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  • first time that I felt like God
  • 00:07:56.000 --> 00:07:57.170
  • spoke to me about the calling
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  • that was on my life, not to just
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  • to know him, but to live out
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  • the big God life for him.
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  • And so I'm really grateful
  • 00:08:05.110 --> 00:08:06.080
  • for that.
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  • - Niyah: That's incredible.
  • 00:08:07.130 --> 00:08:08.150
  • That's incredible.
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  • I love hearing stories
  • 00:08:09.090 --> 00:08:10.060
  • like that, just stories that are
  • 00:08:10.060 --> 00:08:11.180
  • coming out of the conference,
  • 00:08:11.180 --> 00:08:12.190
  • past conferences, and the
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  • stories that are gonna come out
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  • of conference 2016,
  • 00:08:15.000 --> 00:08:16.270
  • this conference this year.
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  • I'm excited.
  • 00:08:17.250 --> 00:08:18.280
  • Thanks, guys, so much for
  • 00:08:18.280 --> 00:08:20.220
  • joining me today in the lounge.
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  • You guys are such a blessing,
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  • not just to me but to people
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  • all around the world.
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  • Your songs, the songs
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  • you've written, the songs
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  • that you lead in worship,
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  • - Tim: And after the break.
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  • - Brian: Do you always wear
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  • fluffy bright pink things?
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  • - Steve McPherson:
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  • That's a good question, Brian.
  • 00:08:36.100 --> 00:08:37.070
  • I've been talking about this
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  • fluffy bright pink thing
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  • all day long.
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  • - Brian: I think it's cool
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  • in New Zealand.
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  • - Steve McPherson:
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  • How are you feeling?
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  • You've actually got a voice.
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  • - Brian: Yeah,
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  • that's important.
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  • It hasn't even been affected.
  • 00:08:57.260 --> 00:08:59.130
  • Oftentimes,
  • 00:08:59.130 --> 00:09:00.040
  • at Hillsong Conference,
  • 00:09:00.040 --> 00:09:00.250
  • I lose my voice.
  • 00:09:00.250 --> 00:09:01.280
  • But this year's been great.
  • 00:09:01.280 --> 00:09:02.280
  • And you know,
  • 00:09:02.280 --> 00:09:04.080
  • it's been an awesome week.
  • 00:09:04.080 --> 00:09:05.090
  • I mean, I'm thrilled as always.
  • 00:09:05.090 --> 00:09:07.120
  • I always feel like we take
  • 00:09:07.120 --> 00:09:08.130
  • people on a journey.
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  • We start at the beginning of the
  • 00:09:09.190 --> 00:09:10.090
  • week and--'cause people
  • 00:09:10.090 --> 00:09:11.110
  • come from every walk of life
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  • and every kind of denomination,
  • 00:09:12.150 --> 00:09:13.240
  • as you know.
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  • And so sometimes you feel at the
  • 00:09:14.200 --> 00:09:15.220
  • beginning of the week some
  • 00:09:15.220 --> 00:09:16.160
  • people's defenses are up.
  • 00:09:16.160 --> 00:09:17.150
  • And then you watch people
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  • as the week goes on.
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  • The penny begins to drop.
  • 00:09:19.200 --> 00:09:20.160
  • God starts to touch people.
  • 00:09:20.160 --> 00:09:21.200
  • And by the time you get to
  • 00:09:21.200 --> 00:09:23.110
  • Friday night, the atmosphere
  • 00:09:23.110 --> 00:09:24.070
  • is alive and unbelievable.
  • 00:09:24.070 --> 00:09:25.280
  • So I think--
  • 00:09:25.280 --> 00:09:26.260
  • - Steve McPherson:
  • 00:09:26.260 --> 00:09:27.170
  • We should let people know at
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  • home not to be alarmed by the
  • 00:09:28.100 --> 00:09:29.130
  • fact that there's an ambulance
  • 00:09:29.130 --> 00:09:30.140
  • behind Pastor Brian
  • 00:09:30.140 --> 00:09:31.280
  • at the moment.
  • 00:09:31.280 --> 00:09:32.280
  • It's not for Pastor Brian.
  • 00:09:32.280 --> 00:09:33.250
  • He's okay.
  • 00:09:33.250 --> 00:09:34.230
  • It's just water.
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  • We're okay.
  • 00:09:35.270 --> 00:09:37.050
  • - all: [laughing]
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  • - Steve McPherson:
  • 00:09:37.200 --> 00:09:38.080
  • Everything's fine.
  • 00:09:38.080 --> 00:09:39.030
  • Everything's fine.
  • 00:09:39.030 --> 00:09:40.120
  • - Mel Wade: It's been really
  • 00:09:40.120 --> 00:09:41.070
  • awesome having Casey Treat
  • 00:09:41.070 --> 00:09:42.020
  • this year.
  • 00:09:42.020 --> 00:09:43.110
  • We haven't had him
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  • for a few years.
  • 00:09:44.010 --> 00:09:45.050
  • And for him to come back
  • 00:09:45.050 --> 00:09:45.290
  • and speak has just been awesome.
  • 00:09:45.290 --> 00:09:48.120
  • - Brian: Yeah, it's been great.
  • 00:09:48.120 --> 00:09:49.110
  • In fact, he's awesome.
  • 00:09:49.110 --> 00:09:50.180
  • He spoke today.
  • 00:09:50.180 --> 00:09:51.150
  • And don't you think everyone's
  • 00:09:51.150 --> 00:09:53.020
  • been--?
  • 00:09:53.020 --> 00:09:53.230
  • - Steve McPherson:
  • 00:09:53.230 --> 00:09:54.090
  • Oh, absolutely.
  • 00:09:54.090 --> 00:09:55.010
  • - Brian: Contributed to--
  • 00:09:55.010 --> 00:09:55.200
  • - Mel: Erwin, I mean, and the
  • 00:09:55.200 --> 00:09:57.150
  • "Spheres" session on that first
  • 00:09:57.150 --> 00:09:58.250
  • afternoon.
  • 00:09:58.250 --> 00:09:59.280
  • That was incredible.
  • 00:09:59.280 --> 00:10:01.100
  • - Brian: I think that was a lot
  • 00:10:01.100 --> 00:10:02.000
  • of people's favorite was that
  • 00:10:02.000 --> 00:10:02.230
  • "Spheres" session.
  • 00:10:02.230 --> 00:10:03.200
  • - Mel: Yeah, I think so too.
  • 00:10:03.200 --> 00:10:04.100
  • And just hearing from people in
  • 00:10:04.100 --> 00:10:05.290
  • our church and what's going on
  • 00:10:05.290 --> 00:10:07.190
  • in their own lives, and--
  • 00:10:07.190 --> 00:10:08.280
  • - Steve McPherson: But your
  • 00:10:08.280 --> 00:10:09.270
  • session that you've been doing,
  • 00:10:09.270 --> 00:10:10.210
  • "Let's Talk Church," how have
  • 00:10:10.210 --> 00:10:11.190
  • you been feeling that's been
  • 00:10:11.190 --> 00:10:12.150
  • going this year?
  • 00:10:12.150 --> 00:10:13.150
  • - Brian: Yeah, well, you know,
  • 00:10:13.150 --> 00:10:14.090
  • we did somethin' different,
  • 00:10:14.090 --> 00:10:15.000
  • is I really got this idea
  • 00:10:15.000 --> 00:10:16.080
  • of doing there's a church
  • 00:10:16.080 --> 00:10:17.220
  • in this crowd.
  • 00:10:17.220 --> 00:10:18.230
  • And so rather than talk
  • 00:10:18.230 --> 00:10:20.180
  • to people on a panel or a round
  • 00:10:20.180 --> 00:10:22.040
  • table or up on the platform,
  • 00:10:22.040 --> 00:10:23.210
  • actually, we did, like,
  • 00:10:23.210 --> 00:10:24.170
  • a TV studio up there.
  • 00:10:24.170 --> 00:10:26.010
  • I just felt to really highlight
  • 00:10:26.010 --> 00:10:27.160
  • the fact that inside this great
  • 00:10:27.160 --> 00:10:28.210
  • big crowd there's a church.
  • 00:10:28.210 --> 00:10:30.060
  • And so, you know, we did some
  • 00:10:30.060 --> 00:10:31.140
  • really cool things up there in
  • 00:10:31.140 --> 00:10:32.290
  • the crowd and it was fun.
  • 00:10:32.290 --> 00:10:34.100
  • - Steve McPherson: And you went
  • 00:10:34.100 --> 00:10:34.290
  • down into the crowd and
  • 00:10:34.290 --> 00:10:35.140
  • actually--
  • 00:10:35.140 --> 00:10:36.030
  • - Brian: Every time--
  • 00:10:36.030 --> 00:10:36.220
  • - Steve McPherson: Yeah,
  • 00:10:36.220 --> 00:10:37.120
  • that's fantastic.
  • 00:10:37.120 --> 00:10:38.030
  • - Mel: Yeah, I saw that.
  • 00:10:38.030 --> 00:10:38.240
  • That was awesome.
  • 00:10:38.240 --> 00:10:39.170
  • And then we've actually got a
  • 00:10:39.170 --> 00:10:40.200
  • few more conferences coming up
  • 00:10:40.200 --> 00:10:41.170
  • very soon.
  • 00:10:41.170 --> 00:10:42.110
  • - Brian: We do.
  • 00:10:42.110 --> 00:10:43.020
  • - Mel: What do we have?
  • 00:10:43.020 --> 00:10:44.060
  • In 2 weeks' time is Hillsong
  • 00:10:44.060 --> 00:10:45.190
  • Europe, or London.
  • 00:10:45.190 --> 00:10:47.180
  • - Brian: No, well, it's Europe.
  • 00:10:47.180 --> 00:10:48.080
  • You have that actually right.
  • 00:10:48.080 --> 00:10:49.000
  • We get people from virtually
  • 00:10:49.000 --> 00:10:50.150
  • every country, I think, in
  • 00:10:50.150 --> 00:10:51.280
  • Europe, and many countries
  • 00:10:51.280 --> 00:10:53.210
  • involved.
  • 00:10:53.210 --> 00:10:54.140
  • And again, I mean, from, up from
  • 00:10:54.140 --> 00:10:56.020
  • Norway alone actually, in London
  • 00:10:56.020 --> 00:10:58.070
  • we get about 500 Norwegians.
  • 00:10:58.070 --> 00:11:00.110
  • And so it's amazing how really
  • 00:11:00.110 --> 00:11:02.160
  • it is a European conference.
  • 00:11:02.160 --> 00:11:03.210
  • I'm excited.
  • 00:11:03.210 --> 00:11:04.120
  • That's 2 weeks away.
  • 00:11:04.120 --> 00:11:05.040
  • And then the week after that,
  • 00:11:05.040 --> 00:11:06.110
  • Hillsong New York City
  • 00:11:06.110 --> 00:11:07.190
  • Conference.
  • 00:11:07.190 --> 00:11:08.190
  • - Steve McPherson: August 3
  • 00:11:08.190 --> 00:11:09.070
  • to the 5th, yep.
  • 00:11:09.070 --> 00:11:10.010
  • - Brian: Yeah, and it's in
  • 00:11:10.010 --> 00:11:10.200
  • Brooklyn, in Barclay Theater.
  • 00:11:10.200 --> 00:11:12.290
  • So that's a very, very new but
  • 00:11:12.290 --> 00:11:14.150
  • iconic venue there where the
  • 00:11:14.150 --> 00:11:17.100
  • Brooklyn Nets play.
  • 00:11:17.100 --> 00:11:18.170
  • So it's pretty exciting.
  • 00:11:18.170 --> 00:11:19.220
  • - Mel: Yeah, wow.
  • 00:11:19.220 --> 00:11:20.170
  • And actually,
  • 00:11:20.170 --> 00:11:21.050
  • I've got this book here.
  • 00:11:21.050 --> 00:11:22.030
  • This is something that's a bit
  • 00:11:22.030 --> 00:11:23.280
  • new, your daily readings.
  • 00:11:23.280 --> 00:11:26.200
  • It is new.
  • 00:11:26.200 --> 00:11:27.130
  • It is new.
  • 00:11:27.130 --> 00:11:28.100
  • - Brian: "90 Days
  • 00:11:28.100 --> 00:11:29.000
  • to Live Love Lead."
  • 00:11:29.000 --> 00:11:29.290
  • So it's 90 devotionals based
  • 00:11:29.290 --> 00:11:32.030
  • on the book "Live Love Lead,"
  • 00:11:32.030 --> 00:11:33.130
  • very Jesus focused.
  • 00:11:33.130 --> 00:11:34.250
  • And I'm really believing that
  • 00:11:34.250 --> 00:11:36.090
  • people who do this, yeah,
  • 00:11:36.090 --> 00:11:37.180
  • there's room for people to write
  • 00:11:37.180 --> 00:11:39.050
  • notes, do their own journaling,
  • 00:11:39.050 --> 00:11:41.050
  • and so on.
  • 00:11:41.050 --> 00:11:41.250
  • And so it's takin' people on a
  • 00:11:41.250 --> 00:11:43.060
  • journey, and I'm really
  • 00:11:43.060 --> 00:11:44.210
  • believin' the Lord's gonna use
  • 00:11:44.210 --> 00:11:45.180
  • it with a whole lot of people to
  • 00:11:45.180 --> 00:11:46.190
  • really help them live, love,
  • 00:11:46.190 --> 00:11:48.170
  • lead.
  • 00:11:48.170 --> 00:11:49.110
  • - Steve McPherson: Yeah, great.
  • 00:11:49.110 --> 00:11:50.060
  • And if you've read the book,
  • 00:11:50.060 --> 00:11:50.250
  • which many of us have, which is
  • 00:11:50.250 --> 00:11:51.150
  • fantastic, this is a way to get
  • 00:11:51.150 --> 00:11:53.190
  • deeper, right, into the thought
  • 00:11:53.190 --> 00:11:56.100
  • and the Scripture behind it,
  • 00:11:56.100 --> 00:11:57.220
  • so fantastic.
  • 00:11:57.220 --> 00:11:58.270
  • Grab ahold of that.
  • 00:11:58.270 --> 00:12:00.090
  • - Brian: And on top of that, we
  • 00:12:00.090 --> 00:12:01.000
  • also got a, like, a either
  • 00:12:01.000 --> 00:12:02.060
  • personal or small-group study
  • 00:12:02.060 --> 00:12:03.150
  • with it as well.
  • 00:12:03.150 --> 00:12:04.100
  • - Mel: I'm gonna get that.
  • 00:12:04.100 --> 00:12:05.000
  • - Brian: And so--
  • 00:12:05.000 --> 00:12:06.010
  • - Mel: Let me get it.
  • 00:12:06.010 --> 00:12:06.210
  • Let me get it.
  • 00:12:06.210 --> 00:12:07.130
  • - Brian: Just walked off
  • 00:12:07.130 --> 00:12:08.030
  • camera.
  • 00:12:08.030 --> 00:12:08.180
  • - Steve McPherson: She did.
  • 00:12:08.180 --> 00:12:09.100
  • She's been doin' that
  • 00:12:09.100 --> 00:12:10.030
  • the whole time.
  • 00:12:10.030 --> 00:12:10.220
  • - Brian: Has she?
  • 00:12:10.220 --> 00:12:11.100
  • - Mel: What's this?
  • 00:12:11.100 --> 00:12:12.080
  • - Brian: Oh, I do this in LA.
  • 00:12:12.080 --> 00:12:13.160
  • I talk to a live group inside a
  • 00:12:13.190 --> 00:12:16.190
  • really cool space.
  • 00:12:16.190 --> 00:12:17.290
  • And did four teachings
  • 00:12:17.290 --> 00:12:19.230
  • from the book "Live Love Lead."
  • 00:12:19.230 --> 00:12:21.000
  • This whole thing
  • 00:12:21.000 --> 00:12:21.290
  • is a curriculum.
  • 00:12:21.290 --> 00:12:23.010
  • And so within this curriculum
  • 00:12:23.010 --> 00:12:25.080
  • there is live teaching, video,
  • 00:12:25.080 --> 00:12:27.200
  • and there's also books and
  • 00:12:27.200 --> 00:12:30.160
  • studies to sustain the teaching.
  • 00:12:30.160 --> 00:12:32.210
  • - Steve McPherson: Excellent.
  • 00:12:32.210 --> 00:12:33.110
  • - Brian: Do you always wear
  • 00:12:33.110 --> 00:12:33.280
  • fluffy bright pink things?
  • 00:12:33.280 --> 00:12:34.220
  • - Steve McPherson: That's a
  • 00:12:34.220 --> 00:12:35.090
  • good question, Brian.
  • 00:12:35.090 --> 00:12:36.100
  • I've been talking about this
  • 00:12:36.100 --> 00:12:37.010
  • fluffy bright pink thing
  • 00:12:37.010 --> 00:12:38.140
  • all day long.
  • 00:12:38.140 --> 00:12:39.080
  • - Brian: I think it's cool
  • 00:12:39.080 --> 00:12:40.130
  • in New Zealand.
  • 00:12:40.130 --> 00:12:41.110
  • - Steve McPherson: Which is a
  • 00:12:41.110 --> 00:12:43.180
  • good place to come from.
  • 00:12:43.180 --> 00:12:44.090
  • - Mel: I'll just remind you
  • 00:12:44.090 --> 00:12:44.260
  • you're from New Zealand as well.
  • 00:12:44.260 --> 00:12:46.010
  • - Brian: Well, I am from
  • 00:12:46.010 --> 00:12:46.170
  • New Zealand,
  • 00:12:46.170 --> 00:12:47.060
  • and I'm proud of it.
  • 00:12:47.060 --> 00:12:48.030
  • It's a great place to come from.
  • 00:12:48.030 --> 00:12:49.070
  • - Mel: That's right.
  • 00:12:49.070 --> 00:12:50.000
  • And now all the good people live
  • 00:12:50.000 --> 00:12:51.190
  • here, like you and me, or like--
  • 00:12:51.190 --> 00:12:54.060
  • - Brian: So it's great because
  • 00:12:54.060 --> 00:12:54.250
  • 2017, we have many people
  • 00:12:54.250 --> 00:12:57.180
  • already registering for that.
  • 00:12:57.180 --> 00:12:58.290
  • And--
  • 00:12:58.290 --> 00:13:00.020
  • - Steve McPherson: We've been
  • 00:13:00.020 --> 00:13:00.270
  • talking about that because
  • 00:13:00.270 --> 00:13:01.190
  • they went into a draw for
  • 00:13:01.190 --> 00:13:02.120
  • London, right?
  • 00:13:02.120 --> 00:13:03.070
  • - Brian: That's right.
  • 00:13:03.070 --> 00:13:03.260
  • - Steve McPherson: If they
  • 00:13:03.260 --> 00:13:04.130
  • registered for 2017--
  • 00:13:04.130 --> 00:13:05.100
  • - Brian: And I think
  • 00:13:05.100 --> 00:13:05.280
  • that's being drawn tonight,
  • 00:13:05.280 --> 00:13:06.170
  • isn't it?
  • 00:13:06.170 --> 00:13:07.070
  • But--
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  • - Mel: I think so.
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  • - Steve McPherson: I think
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  • you're drawing it, Pastor Brian?
  • 00:13:09.120 --> 00:13:10.050
  • - Brian: Am I.
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  • - Mel: Yeah.
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  • - all: [laughing]
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  • - Mel: Yep.
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  • - Brian: Oh, "Brian Houston."
  • 00:13:13.200 --> 00:13:14.180
  • - all: [laughing]
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  • - Steve McPherson: Excellent.
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  • - Mel: Wait, did you register?
  • 00:13:16.140 --> 00:13:17.070
  • You can only--
  • 00:13:17.070 --> 00:13:18.010
  • - Brian: No, next year's gonna
  • 00:13:18.010 --> 00:13:18.240
  • be great as well.
  • 00:13:18.240 --> 00:13:19.190
  • I'm so excited.
  • 00:13:19.190 --> 00:13:20.170
  • Man, Beth Moore is coming.
  • 00:13:20.170 --> 00:13:21.250
  • John Gray is gonna be doing
  • 00:13:21.250 --> 00:13:23.010
  • Young & Free, but also our
  • 00:13:23.010 --> 00:13:24.140
  • other conference.
  • 00:13:24.140 --> 00:13:25.110
  • And we've also got,
  • 00:13:25.110 --> 00:13:26.220
  • who else have we got?
  • 00:13:26.220 --> 00:13:29.020
  • It's gonna be awesome.
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  • - Mel: Craig Groeschel.
  • 00:13:30.170 --> 00:13:31.110
  • Craig Groeschel.
  • 00:13:31.110 --> 00:13:32.070
  • - both: Craig Groeschel.
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  • - Mel: That's right.
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  • - Brian: And Jentezen Franklin.
  • 00:13:33.250 --> 00:13:34.270
  • - Mel: Got it, boom.
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  • - Brian: It's definitely been a
  • 00:13:36.130 --> 00:13:37.020
  • long week.
  • 00:13:37.020 --> 00:13:37.230
  • - Steve McPherson: You've put
  • 00:13:37.230 --> 00:13:38.110
  • me on the spot several times in
  • 00:13:38.110 --> 00:13:39.070
  • just a little space of time.
  • 00:13:39.070 --> 00:13:40.040
  • - Mel: Hey, it's all right,
  • 00:13:40.040 --> 00:13:40.210
  • guys.
  • 00:13:40.210 --> 00:13:41.090
  • I've got it.
  • 00:13:41.090 --> 00:13:41.290
  • - Steve McPherson: You've got
  • 00:13:41.290 --> 00:13:42.170
  • it?
  • 00:13:42.170 --> 00:13:43.040
  • Yeah, it's amazing
  • 00:13:43.040 --> 00:13:43.230
  • what fur can do.
  • 00:13:43.230 --> 00:13:44.230
  • Pastor Brian,
  • 00:13:44.230 --> 00:13:45.110
  • thanks for stopping by
  • 00:13:45.110 --> 00:13:46.050
  • at Hillsong Backstage.
  • 00:13:46.050 --> 00:13:46.230
  • We appreciate it.
  • 00:13:46.230 --> 00:13:47.140
  • Ambulance is not for
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  • Pastor Brian.
  • 00:13:48.090 --> 00:13:49.120
  • It's just right behind you.
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  • - Brian: So we're live-to-air
  • 00:13:51.000 --> 00:13:52.030
  • streaming.
  • 00:13:52.030 --> 00:13:52.260
  • - Steve McPherson: We sure are.
  • 00:13:52.260 --> 00:13:53.180
  • There's thousands of people
  • 00:13:53.180 --> 00:13:54.080
  • all over the world watching
  • 00:13:54.080 --> 00:13:55.010
  • right now.
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  • - Brian: Thank you.
  • 00:13:55.210 --> 00:13:56.100
  • God bless.
  • 00:13:56.100 --> 00:13:56.250
  • Thanks for bein' a part
  • 00:13:56.250 --> 00:13:57.150
  • of Backstage.
  • 00:13:57.150 --> 00:13:58.070
  • And there's nothing like
  • 00:13:58.070 --> 00:13:59.060
  • being here though.
  • 00:13:59.060 --> 00:14:00.100
  • One of these years,
  • 00:14:00.100 --> 00:14:01.000
  • you've gotta be here, and 2017
  • 00:14:01.000 --> 00:14:02.180
  • could be the perfect time.
  • 00:14:02.180 --> 00:14:04.010
  • So this conference is all about
  • 00:14:04.010 --> 00:14:05.220
  • you and people like you.
  • 00:14:05.220 --> 00:14:07.030
  • All we wanna do is help you
  • 00:14:07.030 --> 00:14:08.070
  • and set you up to win.
  • 00:14:08.070 --> 00:14:10.030
  • And the atmosphere, everything
  • 00:14:10.030 --> 00:14:11.220
  • about it, is so engaging.
  • 00:14:11.220 --> 00:14:13.120
  • I'm sure it would be worth
  • 00:14:13.120 --> 00:14:14.210
  • whatever difficulty you have in
  • 00:14:14.210 --> 00:14:16.220
  • getting to Sydney next year,
  • 00:14:16.220 --> 00:14:18.010
  • July, but it would certainly
  • 00:14:18.010 --> 00:14:19.130
  • be worth it.
  • 00:14:19.130 --> 00:14:20.100
  • - Mel: Absolutely.
  • 00:14:20.100 --> 00:14:21.050
  • - Steve McPherson: Couldn't
  • 00:14:21.050 --> 00:14:21.220
  • have said it better myself.
  • 00:14:21.220 --> 00:14:22.160
  • Thank you, Pastor Brian.
  • 00:14:22.160 --> 00:14:23.180
  • - Brian: Thanks.
  • 00:14:23.180 --> 00:14:24.030
  • - Mel: Thank you, Pastor Brian.
  • 00:14:24.030 --> 00:14:24.220
  • - Emma: Coming up
  • 00:14:26.190 --> 00:14:27.030
  • after the break.
  • 00:14:27.030 --> 00:14:28.170
  • - John Burns: Actually, women,
  • 00:14:28.170 --> 00:14:29.200
  • it's not that they just like
  • 00:14:29.200 --> 00:14:31.100
  • They need to hear
  • 00:14:33.110 --> 00:14:34.260
  • they're beautiful.
  • 00:14:34.260 --> 00:14:36.150
  • It's beauty that is planted
  • 00:14:36.150 --> 00:14:37.290
  • - Tim: Some great things
  • 00:14:44.160 --> 00:14:45.040
  • happening over in the studio
  • 00:14:45.040 --> 00:14:46.030
  • in the foyer.
  • 00:14:46.030 --> 00:14:46.260
  • - Niyah: I'm here joined
  • 00:14:49.230 --> 00:14:50.270
  • with none other than
  • 00:14:50.270 --> 00:14:51.230
  • John and Helen Burns
  • 00:14:51.230 --> 00:14:52.230
  • from Relate Church
  • 00:14:52.230 --> 00:14:53.280
  • in Vancouver, Canada,
  • 00:14:53.280 --> 00:14:55.120
  • who are actually part
  • 00:14:55.120 --> 00:14:56.160
  • of another show called
  • 00:14:56.160 --> 00:14:57.110
  • "Sex, Love & Relationships."
  • 00:14:57.110 --> 00:14:59.120
  • Now, these two are perfect
  • 00:14:59.120 --> 00:15:01.070
  • because they host a program
  • 00:15:01.070 --> 00:15:03.070
  • where they are telling people
  • 00:15:03.070 --> 00:15:04.260
  • about how they can create better
  • 00:15:04.260 --> 00:15:07.040
  • relationships, and they've been
  • 00:15:07.040 --> 00:15:08.230
  • doin' this for decades now.
  • 00:15:08.230 --> 00:15:10.030
  • So when I think of that word
  • 00:15:10.030 --> 00:15:12.290
  • "sex," it's like a three-letter
  • 00:15:12.290 --> 00:15:14.010
  • word, like, you just cannot say,
  • 00:15:14.010 --> 00:15:15.170
  • especially in church.
  • 00:15:15.170 --> 00:15:17.040
  • Talk to me.
  • 00:15:17.040 --> 00:15:18.050
  • I feel like I need the AC
  • 00:15:18.050 --> 00:15:19.120
  • to be turned up right now.
  • 00:15:19.120 --> 00:15:20.260
  • I'm gettin' a little hot.
  • 00:15:20.260 --> 00:15:21.280
  • - Helen Burns: Aww, well, we're
  • 00:15:21.280 --> 00:15:22.220
  • proud of you for just going
  • 00:15:22.220 --> 00:15:23.220
  • there and saying it.
  • 00:15:23.220 --> 00:15:25.000
  • It's okay.
  • 00:15:25.000 --> 00:15:25.290
  • - John: Yeah, I think
  • 00:15:25.290 --> 00:15:26.170
  • it's so important
  • 00:15:26.170 --> 00:15:27.080
  • that we do talk about it.
  • 00:15:27.080 --> 00:15:28.210
  • I think the answer to many
  • 00:15:28.210 --> 00:15:30.070
  • of the sexual problems,
  • 00:15:30.070 --> 00:15:31.110
  • 'cause we live in a really
  • 00:15:31.110 --> 00:15:32.180
  • sexually messed-up world.
  • 00:15:32.180 --> 00:15:34.190
  • You know, so much problems
  • 00:15:34.190 --> 00:15:36.120
  • out there.
  • 00:15:36.120 --> 00:15:37.040
  • And I think a big part of it
  • 00:15:37.040 --> 00:15:38.200
  • is we don't talk about it.
  • 00:15:38.200 --> 00:15:39.190
  • And we think if we don't
  • 00:15:39.190 --> 00:15:41.280
  • talk about, it'll go away.
  • 00:15:41.280 --> 00:15:43.240
  • But actually, God created it.
  • 00:15:43.240 --> 00:15:46.000
  • It's a very positive part
  • 00:15:46.000 --> 00:15:47.210
  • of life.
  • 00:15:47.210 --> 00:15:48.170
  • And by talking about it, we give
  • 00:15:48.170 --> 00:15:50.020
  • people answers to, "How do you
  • 00:15:50.020 --> 00:15:51.140
  • deal with sexuality?"
  • 00:15:51.140 --> 00:15:52.260
  • Which is already happening.
  • 00:15:52.260 --> 00:15:54.290
  • You can't get away from it.
  • 00:15:54.290 --> 00:15:56.280
  • It's part of our world.
  • 00:15:56.280 --> 00:15:59.000
  • - Helen: Well, you know what?
  • 00:15:59.000 --> 00:15:59.230
  • To be honest,
  • 00:15:59.230 --> 00:16:00.140
  • I know, growing up,
  • 00:16:00.140 --> 00:16:01.040
  • we didn't talk about that word.
  • 00:16:01.040 --> 00:16:02.010
  • And in church we don't really
  • 00:16:02.010 --> 00:16:03.130
  • talk about it a lot either,
  • 00:16:03.130 --> 00:16:05.010
  • that word "sex."
  • 00:16:05.010 --> 00:16:06.110
  • I mean, what can you talk--I
  • 00:16:06.110 --> 00:16:08.140
  • mean, the fact that you guys
  • 00:16:08.140 --> 00:16:09.090
  • have a show called
  • 00:16:09.090 --> 00:16:10.150
  • "Sex, Love & Relationships,"
  • 00:16:10.150 --> 00:16:12.010
  • I'm kinda like,
  • 00:16:12.010 --> 00:16:12.220
  • "Ooh, should I even be watching
  • 00:16:12.220 --> 00:16:13.240
  • that, Lord?"
  • 00:16:13.240 --> 00:16:14.280
  • I mean, talk to me about this.
  • 00:16:14.280 --> 00:16:16.100
  • - John: It's true.
  • 00:16:16.100 --> 00:16:17.010
  • A lot of people think,
  • 00:16:17.010 --> 00:16:17.200
  • "I can't watch that because
  • 00:16:17.200 --> 00:16:18.170
  • it's part of--" But actually,
  • 00:16:18.170 --> 00:16:19.280
  • we bring the God side to it.
  • 00:16:19.280 --> 00:16:22.180
  • We're answering questions,
  • 00:16:22.180 --> 00:16:24.010
  • and we're not actually openin'
  • 00:16:24.010 --> 00:16:25.020
  • the Bible and saying,
  • 00:16:25.020 --> 00:16:25.230
  • "Go into 1 Peter chapter--"
  • 00:16:25.230 --> 00:16:27.070
  • We're just, you know,
  • 00:16:27.070 --> 00:16:28.090
  • using godly wisdom to
  • 00:16:28.090 --> 00:16:30.110
  • answer questions.
  • 00:16:30.110 --> 00:16:31.120
  • And I think the world loves it.
  • 00:16:31.120 --> 00:16:34.010
  • I think they are literally dying
  • 00:16:34.010 --> 00:16:36.000
  • for someone,
  • 00:16:36.000 --> 00:16:37.240
  • "Give me some answers."
  • 00:16:37.240 --> 00:16:39.000
  • - Helen: Well, I mean,
  • 00:16:39.000 --> 00:16:39.180
  • and right in the beginning of
  • 00:16:39.180 --> 00:16:40.080
  • the Bible it actually says that,
  • 00:16:40.080 --> 00:16:41.120
  • "Adam and Eve were both naked
  • 00:16:41.120 --> 00:16:42.220
  • and neither of them
  • 00:16:42.220 --> 00:16:44.020
  • felt any shame."
  • 00:16:44.020 --> 00:16:45.050
  • Because where there's no sin
  • 00:16:45.050 --> 00:16:46.130
  • there's no shame.
  • 00:16:46.130 --> 00:16:47.190
  • And I think that today there's
  • 00:16:47.190 --> 00:16:49.000
  • such a shame cloak over the word
  • 00:16:49.000 --> 00:16:51.240
  • "sexuality," when God made it
  • 00:16:51.240 --> 00:16:53.110
  • beautiful, something meaningful.
  • 00:16:53.110 --> 00:16:54.280
  • And it's something
  • 00:16:54.280 --> 00:16:55.230
  • that's to be shared and enjoyed
  • 00:16:55.230 --> 00:16:57.280
  • between a husband and a wife.
  • 00:16:57.280 --> 00:17:00.150
  • And because there is such
  • 00:17:00.150 --> 00:17:02.190
  • brokenness, and so many of us
  • 00:17:02.190 --> 00:17:03.260
  • come from brokenness when it
  • 00:17:03.260 --> 00:17:05.140
  • comes to sexuality, I think
  • 00:17:05.140 --> 00:17:07.040
  • it's important to really lay out
  • 00:17:07.040 --> 00:17:08.220
  • what God created it for.
  • 00:17:08.220 --> 00:17:10.030
  • It's beautiful.
  • 00:17:10.030 --> 00:17:11.120
  • It's meaningful.
  • 00:17:11.120 --> 00:17:12.070
  • And it belongs in marriage.
  • 00:17:12.070 --> 00:17:13.280
  • - Niyah: Wow, I love this.
  • 00:17:13.280 --> 00:17:14.220
  • Now, I know we have a lot
  • 00:17:14.220 --> 00:17:16.000
  • of questions.
  • 00:17:16.000 --> 00:17:16.220
  • And Andreas and Lina,
  • 00:17:16.220 --> 00:17:18.010
  • our Hillsong Stockholm pastors,
  • 00:17:18.010 --> 00:17:19.220
  • are going throughout the arena
  • 00:17:19.220 --> 00:17:20.280
  • right now taking questions
  • 00:17:20.280 --> 00:17:22.160
  • from our delegates,
  • 00:17:22.160 --> 00:17:23.100
  • questions that they
  • 00:17:23.100 --> 00:17:24.100
  • have on sex, love,
  • 00:17:24.100 --> 00:17:25.090
  • and relationships.
  • 00:17:25.090 --> 00:17:26.120
  • Let's go to them
  • 00:17:26.120 --> 00:17:27.200
  • and see what questions
  • 00:17:27.200 --> 00:17:28.180
  • they have for us today.
  • 00:17:28.180 --> 00:17:30.010
  • - Andreas Nielsen: I'm here
  • 00:17:30.010 --> 00:17:30.220
  • with Kavita, and she's got
  • 00:17:30.220 --> 00:17:31.190
  • a really, really good question
  • 00:17:31.190 --> 00:17:32.250
  • she wanna ask you guys
  • 00:17:32.250 --> 00:17:33.210
  • about her husband.
  • 00:17:33.210 --> 00:17:34.230
  • And I really hope that you can
  • 00:17:34.230 --> 00:17:36.010
  • help her with this one.
  • 00:17:36.010 --> 00:17:37.270
  • - Kavita: How can a woman
  • 00:17:37.270 --> 00:17:39.120
  • remind her man of her beauty
  • 00:17:39.120 --> 00:17:41.240
  • and needs in the relationship?
  • 00:17:41.240 --> 00:17:44.110
  • - Andreas: Oh, Helen,
  • 00:17:44.110 --> 00:17:44.280
  • I think you're gonna have
  • 00:17:44.280 --> 00:17:45.190
  • to take the lead on this one.
  • 00:17:45.190 --> 00:17:47.100
  • - all: [laughing]
  • 00:17:47.100 --> 00:17:48.210
  • - Niyah: Whew,
  • 00:17:48.210 --> 00:17:49.060
  • that's a good one.
  • 00:17:49.060 --> 00:17:50.070
  • I love that.
  • 00:17:50.070 --> 00:17:51.060
  • Helen, talk to us.
  • 00:17:51.060 --> 00:17:52.190
  • - Helen: Well, you know, one
  • 00:17:52.190 --> 00:17:53.130
  • of the things that God created
  • 00:17:53.130 --> 00:17:55.050
  • on the inside of every woman
  • 00:17:55.050 --> 00:17:56.210
  • is just a real need to know
  • 00:17:56.210 --> 00:17:58.110
  • that she is beautiful, that she
  • 00:17:58.110 --> 00:17:59.260
  • is admired, not so much just
  • 00:17:59.260 --> 00:18:02.070
  • for her physicality.
  • 00:18:02.070 --> 00:18:03.170
  • I think that that is something,
  • 00:18:03.170 --> 00:18:04.210
  • a little girl comes out of the
  • 00:18:04.210 --> 00:18:06.000
  • womb practically flirting
  • 00:18:06.000 --> 00:18:07.160
  • and looking for that attention.
  • 00:18:07.160 --> 00:18:09.090
  • I think there's something
  • 00:18:09.090 --> 00:18:10.040
  • very, very innate.
  • 00:18:10.040 --> 00:18:11.110
  • But I think a woman, what's
  • 00:18:11.110 --> 00:18:14.110
  • really important is that she's
  • 00:18:14.110 --> 00:18:15.280
  • not just seen for the physical
  • 00:18:15.280 --> 00:18:17.120
  • side but seen for true beauty,
  • 00:18:17.120 --> 00:18:19.210
  • which is on the inside.
  • 00:18:19.210 --> 00:18:21.030
  • And I think that's something
  • 00:18:21.030 --> 00:18:21.270
  • we've had to learn
  • 00:18:21.270 --> 00:18:22.180
  • even in our marriage.
  • 00:18:22.180 --> 00:18:23.190
  • And I love that.
  • 00:18:23.190 --> 00:18:24.170
  • John often talks about the
  • 00:18:24.170 --> 00:18:25.210
  • beauty of a woman, that there is
  • 00:18:25.210 --> 00:18:27.060
  • that obvious physical beauty
  • 00:18:27.060 --> 00:18:28.260
  • that we carry, but the true
  • 00:18:28.260 --> 00:18:30.150
  • beauty of every woman is
  • 00:18:30.150 --> 00:18:32.030
  • something that's on the inside.
  • 00:18:32.030 --> 00:18:33.220
  • And you've become
  • 00:18:33.220 --> 00:18:35.180
  • a good treasure hunter.
  • 00:18:35.180 --> 00:18:36.220
  • - John: I think that it's,
  • 00:18:36.220 --> 00:18:39.090
  • the way that she can help her
  • 00:18:39.090 --> 00:18:40.240
  • husband is, first of all,
  • 00:18:40.240 --> 00:18:42.230
  • you know, church is great
  • 00:18:42.230 --> 00:18:43.290
  • because you get
  • 00:18:43.290 --> 00:18:44.220
  • the multigenerational side.
  • 00:18:44.220 --> 00:18:46.060
  • And I think older men need
  • 00:18:46.060 --> 00:18:47.130
  • to talk to younger men.
  • 00:18:47.130 --> 00:18:48.100
  • A lot of younger men
  • 00:18:48.100 --> 00:18:49.100
  • don't get this.
  • 00:18:49.100 --> 00:18:50.100
  • But older men, you've been
  • 00:18:50.100 --> 00:18:51.060
  • around long enough to see it.
  • 00:18:51.060 --> 00:18:52.160
  • And need to recognize and tell
  • 00:18:52.160 --> 00:18:54.040
  • these guys that actually, women,
  • 00:18:54.040 --> 00:18:56.200
  • it's not that they just like
  • 00:18:56.200 --> 00:18:58.240
  • to hear they're beautiful.
  • 00:18:58.240 --> 00:19:00.170
  • They need to hear
  • 00:19:00.170 --> 00:19:01.240
  • they're beautiful.
  • 00:19:01.240 --> 00:19:03.280
  • It's a huge part
  • 00:19:03.280 --> 00:19:04.210
  • of being female.
  • 00:19:04.210 --> 00:19:06.000
  • It's beauty that is planted
  • 00:19:06.000 --> 00:19:07.200
  • on the inside.
  • 00:19:07.200 --> 00:19:08.200
  • I think the treasure
  • 00:19:08.200 --> 00:19:09.190
  • in every woman is in her heart.
  • 00:19:09.190 --> 00:19:11.140
  • I think, get, you know, offended
  • 00:19:13.150 --> 00:19:15.090
  • when all you see is the outside,
  • 00:19:15.090 --> 00:19:17.140
  • when you don't go
  • 00:19:17.140 --> 00:19:18.030
  • past the outside.
  • 00:19:18.030 --> 00:19:19.110
  • And women need to actually voice
  • 00:19:19.110 --> 00:19:22.010
  • what they need.
  • 00:19:22.010 --> 00:19:23.140
  • A lot of guys, you know,
  • 00:19:23.140 --> 00:19:24.060
  • women are, "If you don't know,
  • 00:19:24.060 --> 00:19:25.120
  • I'm not telling you."
  • 00:19:25.120 --> 00:19:26.090
  • They don't know.
  • 00:19:26.090 --> 00:19:27.140
  • And so there's gonna be moments
  • 00:19:27.140 --> 00:19:29.140
  • that a woman can speak
  • 00:19:29.140 --> 00:19:31.020
  • and tell a man what's important,
  • 00:19:31.020 --> 00:19:32.270
  • like when you tell me that,
  • 00:19:32.270 --> 00:19:33.270
  • "I need to hear, 'I love you.'"
  • 00:19:33.270 --> 00:19:35.220
  • But also, just the feedback.
  • 00:19:35.220 --> 00:19:38.100
  • Like, there's gonna be times
  • 00:19:38.100 --> 00:19:39.210
  • when I will tell her that,
  • 00:19:39.210 --> 00:19:41.290
  • you know, "That was beautiful."
  • 00:19:41.290 --> 00:19:43.090
  • And for her then to take an
  • 00:19:43.090 --> 00:19:44.190
  • opportunity and to, "Thank you,
  • 00:19:44.190 --> 00:19:47.060
  • you know that means so much
  • 00:19:47.060 --> 00:19:48.130
  • to me."
  • 00:19:48.130 --> 00:19:49.080
  • And just--
  • 00:19:49.080 --> 00:19:50.110
  • - Niyah: So we shouldn't assume
  • 00:19:50.110 --> 00:19:51.120
  • that you guys know it all.
  • 00:19:51.120 --> 00:19:52.270
  • - Helen: That's exactly right,
  • 00:19:52.270 --> 00:19:54.090
  • exactly right.
  • 00:19:54.090 --> 00:19:55.210
  • - John: Please help us.
  • 00:19:55.210 --> 00:19:56.160
  • Help us.
  • 00:19:56.160 --> 00:19:57.070
  • We don't know.
  • 00:19:57.070 --> 00:19:58.120
  • And we need to know.
  • 00:19:58.120 --> 00:19:59.190
  • And it just makes life, the full
  • 00:19:59.190 --> 00:20:01.050
  • picture, so much healthier.
  • 00:20:01.050 --> 00:20:02.280
  • - Niyah: I love that.
  • 00:20:02.280 --> 00:20:03.240
  • You heard that, ladies.
  • 00:20:03.240 --> 00:20:04.150
  • We need to let them know.
  • 00:20:04.150 --> 00:20:06.110
  • John and Helen,
  • 00:20:06.110 --> 00:20:07.040
  • thank you so much.
  • 00:20:07.040 --> 00:20:07.230
  • We appreciate you,
  • 00:20:07.230 --> 00:20:08.190
  • all your wisdom.
  • 00:20:08.190 --> 00:20:09.270
  • And you're gonna stick around.
  • 00:20:09.270 --> 00:20:11.010
  • We're gonna see you guys again
  • 00:20:11.010 --> 00:20:12.050
  • during conference.
  • 00:20:12.050 --> 00:20:13.080
  • I know there's a lot more
  • 00:20:13.080 --> 00:20:14.070
  • - Tim: Up next.
  • 00:20:17.120 --> 00:20:19.200
  • - Brian: All he had to do,
  • 00:20:20.050 --> 00:20:23.050
  • all he had to do,
  • 00:20:23.060 --> 00:20:26.060
  • was open the Book.
  • 00:20:26.060 --> 00:20:28.030
  • - Emma: Pastor Brian set us up
  • 00:20:37.250 --> 00:20:39.010
  • for an amazing conference, a
  • 00:20:39.010 --> 00:20:40.260
  • word all about being receptive.
  • 00:20:40.260 --> 00:20:43.030
  • Were you listening,
  • 00:20:43.030 --> 00:20:44.000
  • or were you on your phone?
  • 00:20:44.000 --> 00:20:45.050
  • - Brian: I mean,
  • 00:20:48.070 --> 00:20:48.280
  • here was Zacchaeus.
  • 00:20:48.280 --> 00:20:50.080
  • He was not the most likely for
  • 00:20:50.080 --> 00:20:52.110
  • Jesus to wanna go to his house.
  • 00:20:52.110 --> 00:20:54.190
  • He was a tax collector.
  • 00:20:54.190 --> 00:20:56.040
  • In Bible's days, tax collectors
  • 00:20:56.040 --> 00:20:58.000
  • were not nice people.
  • 00:20:58.000 --> 00:21:00.030
  • They would steal your money.
  • 00:21:00.030 --> 00:21:01.110
  • They were con men.
  • 00:21:01.110 --> 00:21:02.060
  • They were extorters.
  • 00:21:02.060 --> 00:21:03.040
  • They would rip you off.
  • 00:21:03.040 --> 00:21:05.110
  • And so here is this guy.
  • 00:21:05.110 --> 00:21:07.060
  • He's obviously
  • 00:21:07.060 --> 00:21:07.290
  • not the most spiritual.
  • 00:21:07.290 --> 00:21:09.220
  • He's not the valedictorian.
  • 00:21:09.220 --> 00:21:11.220
  • He's not the top student.
  • 00:21:11.220 --> 00:21:13.170
  • He's not the most obvious,
  • 00:21:13.170 --> 00:21:15.080
  • just some short guy.
  • 00:21:15.080 --> 00:21:17.010
  • But he is so inquiring,
  • 00:21:17.010 --> 00:21:19.270
  • so inquisitive,
  • 00:21:19.270 --> 00:21:21.160
  • so, kind of, desperate,
  • 00:21:21.160 --> 00:21:23.120
  • that he gets up a tree.
  • 00:21:23.120 --> 00:21:24.290
  • And Jesus sees something in that
  • 00:21:24.290 --> 00:21:26.220
  • receptive spirit that enables
  • 00:21:26.270 --> 00:21:29.270
  • Jesus to wanna go to his house,
  • 00:21:29.270 --> 00:21:31.270
  • nobody else's house,
  • 00:21:31.270 --> 00:21:32.290
  • just his house.
  • 00:21:32.290 --> 00:21:34.160
  • And that's what receptivity
  • 00:21:34.160 --> 00:21:35.240
  • does.
  • 00:21:35.240 --> 00:21:36.180
  • It opens doors for you
  • 00:21:36.180 --> 00:21:37.110
  • you never believe
  • 00:21:37.110 --> 00:21:38.200
  • could be opened.
  • 00:21:38.200 --> 00:21:39.180
  • It's that same attitude that had
  • 00:21:39.180 --> 00:21:41.020
  • those four young men,
  • 00:21:41.020 --> 00:21:42.180
  • desperate young men,
  • 00:21:42.180 --> 00:21:43.270
  • take a paralyzed friend
  • 00:21:43.270 --> 00:21:45.290
  • up onto a roof, because they
  • 00:21:45.290 --> 00:21:47.220
  • couldn't get in because
  • 00:21:47.220 --> 00:21:48.220
  • there were too many hungry,
  • 00:21:48.220 --> 00:21:49.250
  • receptive people on the inside.
  • 00:21:49.250 --> 00:21:52.070
  • And so they went up there
  • 00:21:52.070 --> 00:21:53.060
  • onto that roof,
  • 00:21:53.060 --> 00:21:54.020
  • cut a hole in the roof,
  • 00:21:54.020 --> 00:21:54.290
  • and lowered their friend down.
  • 00:21:54.290 --> 00:21:56.290
  • That's that same desperate
  • 00:21:56.290 --> 00:21:58.180
  • hunger.
  • 00:21:58.180 --> 00:21:59.130
  • Do you realize in your church
  • 00:21:59.130 --> 00:22:01.080
  • that if we have that kind of
  • 00:22:01.080 --> 00:22:02.210
  • receptivity, just how powerful
  • 00:22:02.210 --> 00:22:04.260
  • the meetings can be?
  • 00:22:04.260 --> 00:22:06.020
  • Do you realize that if we could
  • 00:22:06.020 --> 00:22:07.150
  • have a church where you start
  • 00:22:07.150 --> 00:22:10.010
  • at 9 o'clock in the morning,
  • 00:22:10.010 --> 00:22:11.190
  • and everyone who's coming
  • 00:22:11.190 --> 00:22:12.250
  • is already in their seat,
  • 00:22:12.250 --> 00:22:14.170
  • they're already there,
  • 00:22:14.170 --> 00:22:15.190
  • the kids are already in Kidsong,
  • 00:22:15.190 --> 00:22:17.190
  • I mean, everything is ready,
  • 00:22:17.190 --> 00:22:19.270
  • and they sing, and they praise,
  • 00:22:19.270 --> 00:22:22.000
  • and they get in the Word,
  • 00:22:22.000 --> 00:22:23.020
  • and they take notes,
  • 00:22:23.020 --> 00:22:24.000
  • and they're there till
  • 00:22:24.000 --> 00:22:25.010
  • the very last moment,
  • 00:22:25.010 --> 00:22:26.140
  • the last thing they're
  • 00:22:26.140 --> 00:22:27.080
  • worrying about is getting first
  • 00:22:27.080 --> 00:22:29.050
  • out of the car park.
  • 00:22:29.050 --> 00:22:30.110
  • Can you imagine the move
  • 00:22:30.110 --> 00:22:31.240
  • of the Spirit if every church
  • 00:22:31.240 --> 00:22:33.130
  • in Australia,
  • 00:22:33.130 --> 00:22:34.170
  • that's the way it was?
  • 00:22:34.170 --> 00:22:36.000
  • Receptivity, it's like faith.
  • 00:22:36.000 --> 00:22:37.240
  • It opens doors for you.
  • 00:22:37.240 --> 00:22:39.190
  • It's a powerful thing.
  • 00:22:39.190 --> 00:22:40.290
  • And I think many believers
  • 00:22:40.290 --> 00:22:42.150
  • live their life unaware
  • 00:22:42.150 --> 00:22:44.080
  • of the potential of just living
  • 00:22:44.080 --> 00:22:46.020
  • your life wide-eyed,
  • 00:22:46.020 --> 00:22:47.280
  • ready to respond,
  • 00:22:47.280 --> 00:22:49.130
  • wanting all that God's got.
  • 00:22:49.130 --> 00:22:51.070
  • And I'm not speaking at you,
  • 00:22:51.070 --> 00:22:53.010
  • because I can be the worst.
  • 00:22:53.010 --> 00:22:54.090
  • I've been going to church
  • 00:22:54.090 --> 00:22:55.090
  • 62 years.
  • 00:22:55.090 --> 00:22:57.120
  • I was born
  • 00:22:57.120 --> 00:22:58.040
  • into the Salvation Army.
  • 00:22:58.040 --> 00:22:59.270
  • By the age of 2 I was a Baptist.
  • 00:23:00.130 --> 00:23:03.130
  • At 5 my father
  • 00:23:03.130 --> 00:23:04.250
  • was an Assemblies of God pastor.
  • 00:23:04.250 --> 00:23:07.060
  • I've been going to church
  • 00:23:07.060 --> 00:23:08.000
  • a long, long time.
  • 00:23:08.000 --> 00:23:09.160
  • And I wouldn't even begin
  • 00:23:09.160 --> 00:23:10.110
  • to imagine how many conferences
  • 00:23:10.110 --> 00:23:12.160
  • and meetings and messages
  • 00:23:12.160 --> 00:23:14.060
  • that I have heard.
  • 00:23:14.060 --> 00:23:15.180
  • I couldn't even begin to imagine
  • 00:23:15.180 --> 00:23:17.040
  • all the sermons,
  • 00:23:17.040 --> 00:23:18.050
  • all the teaching,
  • 00:23:18.050 --> 00:23:18.290
  • all the ministry
  • 00:23:18.290 --> 00:23:19.260
  • that I have heard.
  • 00:23:19.260 --> 00:23:21.080
  • I know how easy it is to just
  • 00:23:21.080 --> 00:23:22.150
  • kinda start taking it
  • 00:23:22.150 --> 00:23:24.030
  • for granted, to drift off,
  • 00:23:24.030 --> 00:23:26.010
  • to suddenly get caught up,
  • 00:23:26.010 --> 00:23:27.220
  • distracted somewhere, in your
  • 00:23:27.220 --> 00:23:29.050
  • phone, or in--I know how.
  • 00:23:29.050 --> 00:23:30.030
  • So I'm not preachin' at people.
  • 00:23:30.030 --> 00:23:31.260
  • I just want this conference to
  • 00:23:31.260 --> 00:23:33.080
  • be all God's called it to be.
  • 00:23:33.080 --> 00:23:34.210
  • That's why I wanna stretch
  • 00:23:34.210 --> 00:23:35.190
  • people's hearts and challenge
  • 00:23:35.190 --> 00:23:37.030
  • you toward receptivity.
  • 00:23:37.030 --> 00:23:38.280
  • 'Cause I kinda feel God's gonna
  • 00:23:38.280 --> 00:23:40.150
  • do a whole lot more in us.
  • 00:23:40.150 --> 00:23:42.260
  • You know, we've got this 8 am
  • 00:23:42.260 --> 00:23:44.030
  • service in our church, 8 am.
  • 00:23:44.170 --> 00:23:47.170
  • And it's in the chapel.
  • 00:23:47.170 --> 00:23:48.280
  • And it's not a boisterous
  • 00:23:48.280 --> 00:23:50.030
  • service.
  • 00:23:50.030 --> 00:23:50.230
  • It's more like beautiful.
  • 00:23:50.230 --> 00:23:52.150
  • And I love going there.
  • 00:23:52.150 --> 00:23:53.180
  • I love going there for a reason.
  • 00:23:53.180 --> 00:23:55.200
  • But it's a funny thing to me.
  • 00:23:55.200 --> 00:23:56.280
  • Eight o'clock in the morning,
  • 00:23:56.280 --> 00:23:58.150
  • the people get there on time,
  • 00:23:58.150 --> 00:24:00.290
  • and they pretty well stay
  • 00:24:00.290 --> 00:24:01.290
  • till the end.
  • 00:24:01.290 --> 00:24:03.050
  • You get to the 9 o'clock service
  • 00:24:03.050 --> 00:24:04.230
  • and people come in a little
  • 00:24:04.230 --> 00:24:06.020
  • slower, and they love to leave,
  • 00:24:06.020 --> 00:24:08.110
  • if you let them,
  • 00:24:08.110 --> 00:24:08.290
  • a little quicker.
  • 00:24:08.290 --> 00:24:10.100
  • You get to the 11:15 am service,
  • 00:24:10.100 --> 00:24:12.290
  • people are still coming
  • 00:24:12.290 --> 00:24:14.000
  • 30 minutes, 35 minutes,
  • 00:24:14.000 --> 00:24:15.160
  • 40 minutes after we started.
  • 00:24:15.160 --> 00:24:18.000
  • Sometimes I'm preaching
  • 00:24:18.000 --> 00:24:19.140
  • and people are still coming in
  • 00:24:19.140 --> 00:24:21.010
  • out there.
  • 00:24:21.010 --> 00:24:22.040
  • I'll tell you why
  • 00:24:22.040 --> 00:24:22.230
  • I love the 8 am service.
  • 00:24:22.230 --> 00:24:24.100
  • There's a few reasons.
  • 00:24:24.100 --> 00:24:25.180
  • One is, for a start, you know,
  • 00:24:25.180 --> 00:24:27.130
  • it's smaller so I can see
  • 00:24:27.130 --> 00:24:28.140
  • who's there.
  • 00:24:28.140 --> 00:24:29.240
  • And I get a big shock.
  • 00:24:29.240 --> 00:24:30.150
  • I see people there I thought had
  • 00:24:30.150 --> 00:24:32.010
  • left our church years ago.
  • 00:24:32.010 --> 00:24:34.290
  • I thought they were long gone.
  • 00:24:34.290 --> 00:24:36.240
  • It's so nice to see them.
  • 00:24:36.240 --> 00:24:38.060
  • I thought some of them
  • 00:24:38.060 --> 00:24:38.240
  • had passed away.
  • 00:24:38.240 --> 00:24:40.250
  • And to see they're still here
  • 00:24:40.250 --> 00:24:41.250
  • in church, it's awesome.
  • 00:24:41.250 --> 00:24:44.020
  • But I also love it
  • 00:24:44.020 --> 00:24:44.290
  • because they're not necessarily
  • 00:24:44.290 --> 00:24:46.050
  • stand-on-your-seat,
  • 00:24:46.050 --> 00:24:47.020
  • jump-up-and-down-and-shout-type
  • 00:24:47.020 --> 00:24:48.270
  • people.
  • 00:24:48.270 --> 00:24:49.260
  • But they do have a hunger
  • 00:24:49.260 --> 00:24:51.060
  • for the Word.
  • 00:24:51.060 --> 00:24:52.160
  • And you know,
  • 00:24:52.160 --> 00:24:53.010
  • it's a joy and it's a privilege.
  • 00:24:53.010 --> 00:24:53.280
  • One of our smaller services
  • 00:24:53.280 --> 00:24:55.190
  • but it's a beautiful service
  • 00:24:55.190 --> 00:24:57.080
  • because of the receptive spirit
  • 00:24:57.080 --> 00:24:58.240
  • of the people.
  • 00:24:58.240 --> 00:25:00.290
  • We do these worship tours.
  • 00:25:00.290 --> 00:25:02.040
  • We've been doing them for years.
  • 00:25:02.040 --> 00:25:03.110
  • We do them all around the world,
  • 00:25:03.110 --> 00:25:04.200
  • into Europe, into Asia,
  • 00:25:04.200 --> 00:25:06.100
  • of course, the United States,
  • 00:25:06.100 --> 00:25:07.230
  • Africa, pretty well everywhere
  • 00:25:07.230 --> 00:25:10.020
  • you can go.
  • 00:25:10.020 --> 00:25:11.150
  • And it's an amazing thing
  • 00:25:11.150 --> 00:25:12.100
  • because those nights, you can
  • 00:25:12.100 --> 00:25:14.150
  • almost tell before the night
  • 00:25:14.150 --> 00:25:16.120
  • starts just what kinda night
  • 00:25:16.120 --> 00:25:18.150
  • we're gonna have.
  • 00:25:18.150 --> 00:25:19.250
  • Because we always
  • 00:25:19.250 --> 00:25:20.200
  • get them there.
  • 00:25:20.200 --> 00:25:22.050
  • In other words, we always end
  • 00:25:22.050 --> 00:25:23.110
  • with an incredible atmosphere
  • 00:25:23.110 --> 00:25:24.270
  • of faith,
  • 00:25:24.270 --> 00:25:25.230
  • and everyone's leaning in,
  • 00:25:25.230 --> 00:25:26.220
  • and there's an excitement
  • 00:25:26.220 --> 00:25:27.190
  • in the air.
  • 00:25:27.190 --> 00:25:28.250
  • But you know, there are some
  • 00:25:28.250 --> 00:25:29.250
  • nights that before even a note
  • 00:25:29.250 --> 00:25:32.230
  • has been played,
  • 00:25:32.230 --> 00:25:34.090
  • people are lining up.
  • 00:25:34.090 --> 00:25:35.120
  • They're queuing.
  • 00:25:35.120 --> 00:25:36.070
  • You can hear the chatter.
  • 00:25:36.070 --> 00:25:37.060
  • You can actually sense this
  • 00:25:37.060 --> 00:25:38.220
  • anticipation, and everybody
  • 00:25:38.220 --> 00:25:41.020
  • is just waiting.
  • 00:25:41.020 --> 00:25:42.070
  • And the moment the first note
  • 00:25:42.070 --> 00:25:43.200
  • strikes, sure enough,
  • 00:25:43.200 --> 00:25:45.160
  • those people, they are just
  • 00:25:45.160 --> 00:25:47.020
  • into the things of God.
  • 00:25:47.020 --> 00:25:48.180
  • And you can almost tell
  • 00:25:48.180 --> 00:25:49.250
  • which are gonna be
  • 00:25:49.250 --> 00:25:50.210
  • the brilliant nights.
  • 00:25:50.210 --> 00:25:51.200
  • And it's all because of the
  • 00:25:51.200 --> 00:25:53.060
  • excitement and the receptivity.
  • 00:25:53.060 --> 00:25:55.020
  • Maybe you've been around
  • 00:25:55.020 --> 00:25:56.160
  • a long time.
  • 00:25:56.160 --> 00:25:57.160
  • Maybe you've kinda got yourself
  • 00:25:57.160 --> 00:25:58.230
  • a bit jaded.
  • 00:25:58.230 --> 00:25:59.270
  • Maybe you just think,
  • 00:25:59.270 --> 00:26:01.200
  • "Look, I love the Word,
  • 00:26:01.200 --> 00:26:02.260
  • and I love, and so on,
  • 00:26:02.260 --> 00:26:04.040
  • and I mean to listen.
  • 00:26:04.040 --> 00:26:04.270
  • But somehow,
  • 00:26:04.270 --> 00:26:05.180
  • I just get distracted.
  • 00:26:05.180 --> 00:26:06.190
  • It's my friend's fault."
  • 00:26:06.190 --> 00:26:08.290
  • Maybe it's some other thing,
  • 00:26:08.290 --> 00:26:11.250
  • but don't underestimate the
  • 00:26:11.250 --> 00:26:12.200
  • importance of being wide-eyed,
  • 00:26:12.200 --> 00:26:15.050
  • being receptive,
  • 00:26:15.050 --> 00:26:16.100
  • being ready to respond.
  • 00:26:16.100 --> 00:26:18.020
  • And this is one of my favorite
  • 00:26:18.020 --> 00:26:18.280
  • little verses here.
  • 00:26:18.280 --> 00:26:20.150
  • It's in Nehemiah chapter 8,
  • 00:26:20.150 --> 00:26:23.110
  • verse 3 and 8.
  • 00:26:23.110 --> 00:26:24.270
  • I like it because of the
  • 00:26:24.270 --> 00:26:25.250
  • imagery, the picture it paints.
  • 00:26:25.250 --> 00:26:28.170
  • And I'd like you
  • 00:26:28.170 --> 00:26:29.050
  • to think about it.
  • 00:26:29.050 --> 00:26:30.010
  • Ezra now, the Bible says
  • 00:26:30.010 --> 00:26:31.240
  • that: "Ezra read from the Book,
  • 00:26:34.020 --> 00:26:37.010
  • the Word of the Law, in the open
  • 00:26:37.010 --> 00:26:38.130
  • square that was in front of the
  • 00:26:38.130 --> 00:26:40.280
  • midday, before," the Scripture
  • 00:26:43.080 --> 00:26:46.080
  • says, "the men and women and
  • 00:26:46.090 --> 00:26:49.090
  • those who could understand; and
  • 00:26:49.090 --> 00:26:50.290
  • the ears," those who have ears,
  • 00:26:50.290 --> 00:26:53.260
  • "of all those people were
  • 00:26:53.260 --> 00:26:56.250
  • attentive to the Word of God."
  • 00:26:56.250 --> 00:26:59.070
  • So it says, verse 4: "So Ezra
  • 00:26:59.070 --> 00:27:01.190
  • the scribe stood on a platform
  • 00:27:01.190 --> 00:27:04.080
  • of wood,"
  • 00:27:04.080 --> 00:27:05.090
  • [stomping]
  • 00:27:06.010 --> 00:27:09.010
  • just like this,
  • 00:27:09.010 --> 00:27:10.250
  • "he stood on a platform of wood
  • 00:27:10.250 --> 00:27:13.130
  • which they had made
  • 00:27:13.130 --> 00:27:14.060
  • for the purpose;"
  • 00:27:14.060 --> 00:27:15.090
  • it goes on, starts tellin' us
  • 00:27:15.090 --> 00:27:17.060
  • a whole lot of the people
  • 00:27:17.060 --> 00:27:18.070
  • that were there.
  • 00:27:18.070 --> 00:27:19.090
  • But listen to verse 5.
  • 00:27:19.090 --> 00:27:20.280
  • In verse 5 it says: "And Ezra
  • 00:27:20.280 --> 00:27:22.200
  • opened the Book,"
  • 00:27:22.200 --> 00:27:24.030
  • he opened the Book,
  • 00:27:24.030 --> 00:27:26.150
  • "in the sight of all the people,
  • 00:27:26.150 --> 00:27:28.160
  • for he was standing above
  • 00:27:28.160 --> 00:27:30.060
  • all the people;" obviously
  • 00:27:30.060 --> 00:27:32.090
  • on a platform just like this
  • 00:27:32.090 --> 00:27:34.080
  • one, "and when he opened it,
  • 00:27:35.080 --> 00:27:38.080
  • all the people stood up."
  • 00:27:38.080 --> 00:27:40.130
  • It was their natural response.
  • 00:27:40.130 --> 00:27:42.080
  • "And Ezra blessed the Lord,
  • 00:27:42.080 --> 00:27:43.150
  • the great God.
  • 00:27:43.150 --> 00:27:44.210
  • And then all the people,
  • 00:27:44.210 --> 00:27:45.260
  • 'Amen, Amen!'
  • 00:27:45.260 --> 00:27:48.000
  • while lifting up their hands.
  • 00:27:48.000 --> 00:27:49.080
  • And they bowed their heads
  • 00:27:49.080 --> 00:27:51.030
  • and worshiped the Lord
  • 00:27:51.030 --> 00:27:52.100
  • Can you think about that,
  • 00:27:55.020 --> 00:27:56.180
  • that atmosphere of receptivity?
  • 00:27:56.180 --> 00:27:57.200
  • This is the Law
  • 00:27:59.210 --> 00:28:00.220
  • that's being read.
  • 00:28:00.220 --> 00:28:01.210
  • We have a better covenant with
  • 00:28:01.210 --> 00:28:03.180
  • better promises and better hope.
  • 00:28:03.180 --> 00:28:06.010
  • We've got so much more
  • 00:28:06.010 --> 00:28:07.070
  • to be excited about.
  • 00:28:07.070 --> 00:28:08.240
  • But these people
  • 00:28:08.240 --> 00:28:10.030
  • were so receptive.
  • 00:28:10.030 --> 00:28:11.170
  • They were so hungry.
  • 00:28:11.170 --> 00:28:13.000
  • They were so open that the
  • 00:28:13.000 --> 00:28:14.280
  • moment Ezra opened the Book,
  • 00:28:14.280 --> 00:28:17.100
  • the automatic response
  • 00:28:17.100 --> 00:28:18.160
  • was everybody stood up.
  • 00:28:18.160 --> 00:28:20.210
  • And as people stood up,
  • 00:28:20.210 --> 00:28:21.260
  • the Scripture says, "They lifted
  • 00:28:21.260 --> 00:28:23.180
  • their hands in the air.
  • 00:28:23.180 --> 00:28:25.020
  • They all began to shout,
  • 00:28:25.020 --> 00:28:26.190
  • 'Amen, Amen!'
  • 00:28:26.190 --> 00:28:29.000
  • before they fell to the ground
  • 00:28:29.000 --> 00:28:30.150
  • and worshiped the Lord."
  • 00:28:30.150 --> 00:28:32.150
  • All Ezra had to do
  • 00:28:32.150 --> 00:28:33.250
  • was open the Book.
  • 00:28:33.250 --> 00:28:35.080
  • The moment he opened the Word,
  • 00:28:35.080 --> 00:28:37.010
  • people stood up, put their hands
  • 00:28:37.010 --> 00:28:38.270
  • in the air, shouted,
  • 00:28:38.270 --> 00:28:40.090
  • "Amen! Amen!"
  • 00:28:40.090 --> 00:28:41.220
  • before the fell to the ground
  • 00:28:41.220 --> 00:28:43.200
  • and worshiped God.
  • 00:28:43.200 --> 00:28:45.030
  • And to think about, all Ezra had
  • 00:28:45.030 --> 00:28:47.000
  • to do, all he had to do,
  • 00:28:47.000 --> 00:28:49.230
  • all he had to do,
  • 00:28:49.230 --> 00:28:52.140
  • all he had to do,
  • 00:28:52.140 --> 00:28:55.000
  • all he had to do,
  • 00:28:55.090 --> 00:28:58.090
  • all he had to do
  • 00:28:59.030 --> 00:29:02.050
  • was open the Book.
  • 00:29:02.050 --> 00:29:03.290
  • [audience applauding]
  • 00:29:09.230 --> 00:29:12.230
  • "Amen! Amen"
  • 00:29:12.230 --> 00:29:13.280
  • with their hands in the air,
  • 00:29:13.280 --> 00:29:15.150
  • before they fell to the ground
  • 00:29:15.150 --> 00:29:16.210
  • and worshiped the Lord.
  • 00:29:16.210 --> 00:29:18.010
  • And all Ezra had to do
  • 00:29:18.260 --> 00:29:21.260
  • was open the Book.
  • 00:29:22.270 --> 00:29:25.270
  • - Emma: Up next.
  • 00:29:27.280 --> 00:29:29.220
  • - Emma: Yesterday, Pastor Brian
  • 00:29:29.220 --> 00:29:32.000
  • had a great session,
  • 00:29:32.000 --> 00:29:33.010
  • "Let's Talk Church."
  • 00:29:33.010 --> 00:29:34.020
  • He sat down next to you,
  • 00:29:34.020 --> 00:29:35.050
  • had a few things to say
  • 00:29:35.050 --> 00:29:36.220
  • about your relationship.
  • 00:29:36.220 --> 00:29:38.070
  • - Brian: Here's my friend.
  • 00:29:40.080 --> 00:29:40.270
  • He's a prophet for sure.
  • 00:29:40.270 --> 00:29:42.090
  • A lot of those Old Testament
  • 00:29:42.090 --> 00:29:43.000
  • prophets, they were very edgy
  • 00:29:43.000 --> 00:29:44.110
  • sorta characters.
  • 00:29:44.110 --> 00:29:46.050
  • So do you think it's possible
  • 00:29:46.050 --> 00:29:48.110
  • to be a prophet and be normal?
  • 00:29:48.110 --> 00:29:50.080
  • [audience laughing]
  • 00:29:50.080 --> 00:29:52.090
  • - Marion Penny: You're asking
  • 00:29:52.090 --> 00:29:52.290
  • - Tim: Well, we're back here
  • 00:30:00.130 --> 00:30:01.110
  • with Steven and Marion Penny,
  • 00:30:01.110 --> 00:30:02.260
  • who have been great friends
  • 00:30:02.260 --> 00:30:03.260
  • of Pastor Brian and Bobbie
  • 00:30:03.260 --> 00:30:05.000
  • for many years.
  • 00:30:05.000 --> 00:30:05.240
  • It's so good to have you back.
  • 00:30:05.240 --> 00:30:06.200
  • - both: Thank you.
  • 00:30:06.200 --> 00:30:07.100
  • - Emma: Now, yesterday,
  • 00:30:07.100 --> 00:30:09.030
  • Pastor Brian
  • 00:30:09.030 --> 00:30:09.260
  • had a great session,
  • 00:30:09.260 --> 00:30:10.210
  • "Let's Talk Church."
  • 00:30:10.210 --> 00:30:11.160
  • He sat down next to you,
  • 00:30:11.160 --> 00:30:12.260
  • had a few things to say about
  • 00:30:12.260 --> 00:30:14.280
  • your relationship.
  • 00:30:14.280 --> 00:30:16.160
  • - Brian: I'm sure there's some
  • 00:30:19.150 --> 00:30:20.040
  • prophets in the room somewhere.
  • 00:30:20.040 --> 00:30:22.090
  • I'm sure there are.
  • 00:30:22.090 --> 00:30:23.220
  • I'm sure that, I don't know why
  • 00:30:23.220 --> 00:30:24.260
  • they have to sit way up the top.
  • 00:30:24.260 --> 00:30:26.050
  • They should know I'm out
  • 00:30:26.050 --> 00:30:27.200
  • of fitness right at this moment.
  • 00:30:28.210 --> 00:30:31.210
  • Here's my friend.
  • 00:30:31.210 --> 00:30:32.180
  • He's a prophet for sure.
  • 00:30:32.180 --> 00:30:34.000
  • Maybe not just a prophet.
  • 00:30:34.000 --> 00:30:35.080
  • You can stay there.
  • 00:30:35.080 --> 00:30:36.030
  • I'll sit right behind you here.
  • 00:30:36.030 --> 00:30:37.010
  • You sit there.
  • 00:30:37.010 --> 00:30:38.080
  • Yeah, you sit there.
  • 00:30:38.080 --> 00:30:39.250
  • Fantastic.
  • 00:30:39.250 --> 00:30:40.160
  • I have to organize everything
  • 00:30:40.160 --> 00:30:41.120
  • around here.
  • 00:30:41.120 --> 00:30:42.090
  • I'll sit here.
  • 00:30:42.090 --> 00:30:43.200
  • And then we can talk together.
  • 00:30:43.200 --> 00:30:45.250
  • So this is my friend
  • 00:30:45.250 --> 00:30:46.110
  • Steve Penny, Steve and Marion.
  • 00:30:46.110 --> 00:30:48.190
  • And they're an awesome couple.
  • 00:30:48.190 --> 00:30:50.190
  • Known them a long, long,
  • 00:30:50.190 --> 00:30:51.270
  • long, long time.
  • 00:30:51.270 --> 00:30:53.050
  • There's a church in this crowd,
  • 00:30:53.050 --> 00:30:54.150
  • and in it there's some amazing
  • 00:30:54.150 --> 00:30:56.020
  • ministries, amazing people.
  • 00:30:56.020 --> 00:30:58.090
  • This man, I see him
  • 00:30:58.090 --> 00:30:59.180
  • as a prophet.
  • 00:30:59.180 --> 00:31:00.220
  • I'm not sayin' that
  • 00:31:00.220 --> 00:31:01.150
  • that's all he is,
  • 00:31:01.150 --> 00:31:02.280
  • but he has a prophetic edge.
  • 00:31:02.280 --> 00:31:05.010
  • And this is how much
  • 00:31:05.010 --> 00:31:05.220
  • I value him.
  • 00:31:05.220 --> 00:31:07.160
  • Every summer, every January,
  • 00:31:07.160 --> 00:31:10.010
  • Bobbie and I go for a break
  • 00:31:10.010 --> 00:31:11.290
  • in Noosa.
  • 00:31:11.290 --> 00:31:13.120
  • We've done it since our children
  • 00:31:13.120 --> 00:31:14.130
  • were small.
  • 00:31:14.130 --> 00:31:15.190
  • And so while we're there,
  • 00:31:15.190 --> 00:31:16.180
  • we're there usually 10 days
  • 00:31:16.180 --> 00:31:17.240
  • to 2 weeks.
  • 00:31:17.240 --> 00:31:19.010
  • We've got great friends up there
  • 00:31:19.010 --> 00:31:19.250
  • as well.
  • 00:31:19.250 --> 00:31:20.180
  • But Steve lives up that way.
  • 00:31:20.180 --> 00:31:22.270
  • He loves the easy life,
  • 00:31:22.270 --> 00:31:24.220
  • and loves to play golf.
  • 00:31:24.220 --> 00:31:27.070
  • But the thing about it is,
  • 00:31:27.070 --> 00:31:29.190
  • once a year, after I've been on
  • 00:31:29.190 --> 00:31:32.100
  • holiday about 10 days,
  • 00:31:32.100 --> 00:31:33.170
  • Steve and I organize
  • 00:31:33.170 --> 00:31:34.100
  • to have breakfast.
  • 00:31:34.100 --> 00:31:35.250
  • We do it in a place
  • 00:31:35.250 --> 00:31:36.280
  • called Aromas in Noosa.
  • 00:31:36.280 --> 00:31:38.220
  • And we always decide
  • 00:31:38.220 --> 00:31:40.020
  • we're gonna meet at 7 am.
  • 00:31:40.020 --> 00:31:42.040
  • I've never beat him there.
  • 00:31:42.040 --> 00:31:44.010
  • No matter how early I go,
  • 00:31:44.010 --> 00:31:45.080
  • he's already there.
  • 00:31:45.080 --> 00:31:46.250
  • And so we have a big breakfast
  • 00:31:46.250 --> 00:31:48.280
  • together.
  • 00:31:48.280 --> 00:31:50.070
  • Usually, we stay about 3 hours,
  • 00:31:50.070 --> 00:31:52.150
  • and just talk, talk, talk, talk
  • 00:31:52.150 --> 00:31:54.220
  • about what the Holy Spirit's
  • 00:31:54.220 --> 00:31:56.080
  • doing, talking about what
  • 00:31:56.080 --> 00:31:58.110
  • we believe the Lord is saying.
  • 00:31:58.110 --> 00:32:00.230
  • And I invite him to speak into
  • 00:32:00.230 --> 00:32:02.230
  • my life and into our church
  • 00:32:02.230 --> 00:32:04.120
  • every year.
  • 00:32:04.120 --> 00:32:05.260
  • And I feel like from those
  • 00:32:05.260 --> 00:32:08.120
  • conversations that God puts
  • 00:32:08.120 --> 00:32:10.150
  • in my heart direction for our
  • 00:32:10.150 --> 00:32:12.040
  • entire church for a new year.
  • 00:32:12.040 --> 00:32:15.020
  • This year it was,
  • 00:32:15.020 --> 00:32:16.040
  • "Behold, I do a new thing."
  • 00:32:16.040 --> 00:32:18.190
  • "Behold" means "wow,
  • 00:32:18.190 --> 00:32:20.070
  • stand in awe and be amazed."
  • 00:32:20.070 --> 00:32:22.070
  • "I do a new thing."
  • 00:32:22.070 --> 00:32:23.250
  • And then he tells us what the
  • 00:32:23.250 --> 00:32:24.200
  • new thing is, "New Roads
  • 00:32:24.200 --> 00:32:26.220
  • and New Rivers,"
  • 00:32:26.220 --> 00:32:28.190
  • roads in the wilderness,
  • 00:32:28.190 --> 00:32:29.150
  • rivers in the desert.
  • 00:32:29.150 --> 00:32:31.000
  • So we've been believing
  • 00:32:31.000 --> 00:32:32.020
  • as a church for new roads.
  • 00:32:32.020 --> 00:32:34.060
  • Roads lead upwards to
  • 00:32:34.060 --> 00:32:35.070
  • new horizons, new opportunities,
  • 00:32:35.070 --> 00:32:37.040
  • new possibilities.
  • 00:32:37.040 --> 00:32:38.160
  • Rivers, they flow downwards
  • 00:32:38.160 --> 00:32:40.070
  • with provision, with promise,
  • 00:32:40.070 --> 00:32:43.020
  • with resource, blessing.
  • 00:32:43.120 --> 00:32:46.120
  • So new roads, new rivers.
  • 00:32:46.120 --> 00:32:48.020
  • And you know, we're only partway
  • 00:32:48.020 --> 00:32:48.210
  • into this year, but as a church,
  • 00:32:48.210 --> 00:32:50.000
  • I mean, the new roads
  • 00:32:50.000 --> 00:32:51.270
  • are Hillsong Channel.
  • 00:32:51.270 --> 00:32:53.110
  • That's a new road.
  • 00:32:53.110 --> 00:32:54.220
  • I mean, that one's a curve ball.
  • 00:32:54.220 --> 00:32:56.040
  • We had no idea
  • 00:32:56.040 --> 00:32:57.090
  • that was gonna be coming.
  • 00:32:57.090 --> 00:32:58.200
  • And new rivers,
  • 00:32:58.200 --> 00:32:59.200
  • now we're believing
  • 00:32:59.200 --> 00:33:00.180
  • for the provision and
  • 00:33:00.180 --> 00:33:02.140
  • the blessing and the capacity
  • 00:33:02.140 --> 00:33:04.120
  • to be able to do it.
  • 00:33:04.120 --> 00:33:05.100
  • I reckon you're a prophet,
  • 00:33:05.100 --> 00:33:06.100
  • Steve.
  • 00:33:06.100 --> 00:33:07.050
  • I've not go doubt about it.
  • 00:33:07.050 --> 00:33:08.130
  • And you know, talk to me,
  • 00:33:08.130 --> 00:33:10.080
  • if you would, just for a moment,
  • 00:33:10.080 --> 00:33:12.110
  • about what you see,
  • 00:33:12.110 --> 00:33:13.180
  • the role of a prophet today
  • 00:33:13.180 --> 00:33:15.260
  • in 2016.
  • 00:33:15.260 --> 00:33:18.140
  • - Steve Penny:
  • 00:33:18.140 --> 00:33:19.000
  • The New Testament prophet
  • 00:33:19.000 --> 00:33:20.100
  • is totally different
  • 00:33:20.100 --> 00:33:21.020
  • - Brian: I know.
  • 00:33:23.030 --> 00:33:24.060
  • - Steve Penny: There's a lot of
  • 00:33:24.060 --> 00:33:24.250
  • guys that are prophetic or think
  • 00:33:24.250 --> 00:33:26.200
  • they're prophets that do it
  • 00:33:26.200 --> 00:33:28.150
  • by observation, "Look at this,
  • 00:33:28.150 --> 00:33:31.010
  • what's happening in the world,"
  • 00:33:31.010 --> 00:33:32.040
  • and they prophesy about that.
  • 00:33:32.040 --> 00:33:33.230
  • Others by calculation,
  • 00:33:33.230 --> 00:33:35.150
  • "This day, the four blood moons,
  • 00:33:35.150 --> 00:33:37.260
  • the year of," they calculate.
  • 00:33:37.260 --> 00:33:40.160
  • Others by interpretation.
  • 00:33:40.160 --> 00:33:43.060
  • But a New Testament prophet
  • 00:33:43.060 --> 00:33:44.230
  • carries, the spirit of prophecy
  • 00:33:44.230 --> 00:33:47.220
  • is the testimony of Jesus.
  • 00:33:47.220 --> 00:33:49.270
  • That's why I love your church,
  • 00:33:49.270 --> 00:33:51.270
  • Brian, because you're
  • 00:33:51.270 --> 00:33:54.020
  • very prophetic in a way that
  • 00:33:54.020 --> 00:33:56.090
  • a lot of people don't see it.
  • 00:33:56.090 --> 00:33:57.210
  • You simply preach Jesus.
  • 00:33:57.210 --> 00:34:00.080
  • 'Cause what defines
  • 00:34:00.080 --> 00:34:01.080
  • the end times
  • 00:34:01.080 --> 00:34:02.110
  • by a New Testament prophet
  • 00:34:02.110 --> 00:34:03.260
  • is the emergence and rising up
  • 00:34:03.260 --> 00:34:06.240
  • of Jesus on top of the church,
  • 00:34:06.240 --> 00:34:09.190
  • an unshakeable kingdom.
  • 00:34:09.190 --> 00:34:12.130
  • That's what we prophesy.
  • 00:34:12.130 --> 00:34:14.210
  • And I am captivated
  • 00:34:16.050 --> 00:34:19.050
  • by this word for this year
  • 00:34:19.050 --> 00:34:21.000
  • that you have preached so well,
  • 00:34:21.000 --> 00:34:23.100
  • "New Roads and New Rivers."
  • 00:34:23.100 --> 00:34:25.110
  • I think that's for all of us.
  • 00:34:25.110 --> 00:34:26.280
  • I am blown away by it.
  • 00:34:26.280 --> 00:34:28.280
  • I am anticipating even more
  • 00:34:28.280 --> 00:34:31.170
  • new roads of faith and God's
  • 00:34:31.270 --> 00:34:34.270
  • incredible plan for his church.
  • 00:34:34.270 --> 00:34:37.120
  • I'm expectant.
  • 00:34:37.120 --> 00:34:39.110
  • And I get the privilege of going
  • 00:34:39.110 --> 00:34:40.190
  • around the world.
  • 00:34:40.190 --> 00:34:42.000
  • The funny thing is, I reckon you
  • 00:34:42.230 --> 00:34:45.230
  • changed about 4 years ago.
  • 00:34:45.230 --> 00:34:48.140
  • We've been meeting at Noosa
  • 00:34:48.140 --> 00:34:49.240
  • for many, many years.
  • 00:34:49.240 --> 00:34:51.260
  • But about 4 years ago, Brian--
  • 00:34:51.260 --> 00:34:54.050
  • - Brian: My what is it,
  • 00:34:54.050 --> 00:34:57.010
  • snitch?
  • 00:34:57.010 --> 00:34:57.220
  • My--?
  • 00:34:57.220 --> 00:34:58.170
  • - Steve Penny: Your glitch.
  • 00:34:58.170 --> 00:34:59.080
  • - Brian: My glitch?
  • 00:34:59.080 --> 00:35:00.020
  • - Steve Penny: Which one?
  • 00:35:00.020 --> 00:35:01.150
  • [audience laughing]
  • 00:35:01.250 --> 00:35:04.250
  • - Brian: Unqualified.
  • 00:35:04.250 --> 00:35:06.130
  • - Steve Penny:
  • 00:35:06.130 --> 00:35:07.060
  • About 4 years ago, I think,
  • 00:35:07.060 --> 00:35:10.000
  • our chats changed.
  • 00:35:10.000 --> 00:35:11.240
  • And you started to draw out
  • 00:35:11.240 --> 00:35:13.170
  • of me in a much more intentional
  • 00:35:13.190 --> 00:35:16.190
  • way, "What's the God Word?
  • 00:35:16.190 --> 00:35:19.130
  • What's the prophetic horizon
  • 00:35:19.280 --> 00:35:22.280
  • look like?"
  • 00:35:22.280 --> 00:35:24.150
  • And that not only changed me,
  • 00:35:24.150 --> 00:35:27.010
  • but I think it's helped you
  • 00:35:27.010 --> 00:35:29.030
  • to embrace that.
  • 00:35:29.030 --> 00:35:31.030
  • And it's been fantastic
  • 00:35:31.030 --> 00:35:32.130
  • for Hillsong as a church.
  • 00:35:32.130 --> 00:35:34.180
  • The thing about prophets
  • 00:35:34.180 --> 00:35:36.050
  • is that they are unusual people,
  • 00:35:36.220 --> 00:35:39.220
  • and only a--don't make
  • 00:35:39.220 --> 00:35:41.130
  • a silly comment now.
  • 00:35:41.130 --> 00:35:43.000
  • - Brian: Well, I was actually
  • 00:35:43.000 --> 00:35:43.180
  • gonna go there.
  • 00:35:43.180 --> 00:35:45.110
  • I was actually gonna go there,
  • 00:35:45.110 --> 00:35:46.230
  • but c'mon.
  • 00:35:46.230 --> 00:35:47.140
  • - Steve Penny:
  • 00:35:47.140 --> 00:35:48.010
  • I knew you would.
  • 00:35:48.010 --> 00:35:48.200
  • Prophets are unusual people,
  • 00:35:48.200 --> 00:35:51.100
  • the ones I know anyway.
  • 00:35:51.100 --> 00:35:53.160
  • And usually, it's only apostles
  • 00:35:54.130 --> 00:35:57.130
  • that can handle them well.
  • 00:35:57.130 --> 00:35:59.230
  • Most pastors don't know how
  • 00:36:00.080 --> 00:36:03.080
  • to handle prophets,
  • 00:36:03.080 --> 00:36:05.100
  • but they wanna demean
  • 00:36:05.100 --> 00:36:07.010
  • a prophet under their role,
  • 00:36:07.010 --> 00:36:08.160
  • and, "Will you prophesy
  • 00:36:08.160 --> 00:36:09.150
  • over a few people in church?"
  • 00:36:09.150 --> 00:36:11.160
  • No, the New Testament prophet
  • 00:36:11.160 --> 00:36:13.170
  • should bring some perception of
  • 00:36:13.170 --> 00:36:16.160
  • God's plan to kings or apostles.
  • 00:36:17.010 --> 00:36:20.010
  • Then they do whatever
  • 00:36:20.010 --> 00:36:21.130
  • they want with that.
  • 00:36:21.130 --> 00:36:23.100
  • To let a prophet run around
  • 00:36:23.100 --> 00:36:24.220
  • all over the world
  • 00:36:24.220 --> 00:36:25.290
  • is a dangerous thing.
  • 00:36:25.290 --> 00:36:27.250
  • Beware the prophet that's not
  • 00:36:27.250 --> 00:36:29.130
  • in relationship to a king
  • 00:36:29.130 --> 00:36:31.180
  • or an apostle.
  • 00:36:31.180 --> 00:36:33.200
  • That's a key thing.
  • 00:36:34.090 --> 00:36:37.090
  • - Brian: I think you can tell
  • 00:36:37.090 --> 00:36:38.020
  • there's gold in these guys.
  • 00:36:38.020 --> 00:36:39.130
  • Ask them a question, they come
  • 00:36:39.130 --> 00:36:41.000
  • out with a lot of gold.
  • 00:36:41.000 --> 00:36:42.110
  • But I was gonna go there.
  • 00:36:42.110 --> 00:36:43.270
  • You know, John the Baptist
  • 00:36:43.270 --> 00:36:45.000
  • is a great example.
  • 00:36:45.000 --> 00:36:46.090
  • He's, loved to run around in the
  • 00:36:46.090 --> 00:36:48.110
  • desert, and what he'd wear.
  • 00:36:48.110 --> 00:36:49.280
  • He ate--
  • 00:36:49.280 --> 00:36:50.170
  • - Steve Penny:
  • 00:36:50.170 --> 00:36:51.020
  • He's setting me up.
  • 00:36:51.020 --> 00:36:52.060
  • - Brian: Ate weird food
  • 00:36:52.060 --> 00:36:53.010
  • and wore weird clothes.
  • 00:36:54.110 --> 00:36:57.110
  • A lot of those Old Testament
  • 00:36:57.110 --> 00:36:58.150
  • prophets, they were very edgy
  • 00:36:58.150 --> 00:36:59.260
  • sorta characters.
  • 00:36:59.260 --> 00:37:01.140
  • So do you think it's possible
  • 00:37:01.140 --> 00:37:03.160
  • to be a prophet and be normal?
  • 00:37:03.160 --> 00:37:05.110
  • [audience laughing]
  • 00:37:05.110 --> 00:37:07.180
  • - Marion: You're asking
  • 00:37:07.180 --> 00:37:08.050
  • the wrong person.
  • 00:37:08.050 --> 00:37:10.170
  • - Brian: We will.
  • 00:37:10.170 --> 00:37:11.020
  • We'll ask you, Marion.
  • 00:37:11.020 --> 00:37:11.250
  • What do you think?
  • 00:37:11.250 --> 00:37:13.070
  • - Marion: Hmm, maybe not.
  • 00:37:13.070 --> 00:37:14.210
  • Hey, one of my close friends in
  • 00:37:16.220 --> 00:37:18.070
  • life, and he is a prophetic guy,
  • 00:37:18.070 --> 00:37:20.150
  • and I've learned to trust
  • 00:37:20.150 --> 00:37:21.160
  • the words he brings into my life
  • 00:37:21.160 --> 00:37:23.260
  • and into our church's life.
  • 00:37:23.260 --> 00:37:25.160
  • And I don't think we should get
  • 00:37:25.160 --> 00:37:27.040
  • all weird and spooky about
  • 00:37:27.040 --> 00:37:28.120
  • prophets and prophecies.
  • 00:37:28.120 --> 00:37:29.220
  • And I've never been one
  • 00:37:29.220 --> 00:37:30.290
  • for enjoying someone coming up
  • 00:37:30.290 --> 00:37:32.060
  • to you in church, looking
  • 00:37:32.060 --> 00:37:33.000
  • cross-eyed and saying,
  • 00:37:33.000 --> 00:37:33.270
  • "I have a word for you."
  • 00:37:33.270 --> 00:37:35.280
  • And you now, make sure
  • 00:37:35.280 --> 00:37:37.220
  • that it always is reinforced
  • 00:37:37.220 --> 00:37:38.270
  • by people you trust, rather than
  • 00:37:38.270 --> 00:37:41.020
  • get your life sent off course
  • 00:37:41.020 --> 00:37:42.070
  • by some random prophet giving
  • 00:37:42.070 --> 00:37:44.050
  • you direction that maybe
  • 00:37:44.050 --> 00:37:45.280
  • has much more to do with
  • 00:37:45.280 --> 00:37:46.270
  • whatever is in their own spirit.
  • 00:37:46.270 --> 00:37:48.260
  • But a prophetic gift is
  • 00:37:48.260 --> 00:37:49.270
  • absolutely fantastic.
  • 00:37:49.270 --> 00:37:51.100
  • And all us pastors,
  • 00:37:51.100 --> 00:37:52.000
  • let's believe for God to speak
  • 00:37:52.000 --> 00:37:53.150
  • prophetically into our life.
  • 00:37:53.150 --> 00:37:55.010
  • And let's believe for our
  • 00:37:55.010 --> 00:37:56.010
  • worship to have a prophetic edge
  • 00:37:56.010 --> 00:37:57.060
  • to it.
  • 00:37:57.060 --> 00:37:58.000
  • Let's believe for those who
  • 00:37:58.000 --> 00:37:59.190
  • serve in all sorts of areas of
  • 00:37:59.190 --> 00:38:01.210
  • life to have that ability to get
  • 00:38:01.210 --> 00:38:03.020
  • in the mind of the Spirit, get
  • 00:38:03.020 --> 00:38:04.080
  • the Word of the Law, to be able
  • 00:38:04.080 --> 00:38:05.180
  • to see, to be futuristic, and to
  • 00:38:05.180 --> 00:38:08.130
  • be able to see the danger signs,
  • 00:38:08.130 --> 00:38:10.020
  • see the gold in people, see the
  • 00:38:10.020 --> 00:38:11.210
  • new thing, see the way forward.
  • 00:38:11.210 --> 00:38:13.170
  • Because I believe it keeps us
  • 00:38:13.170 --> 00:38:15.200
  • healthy, flourishing,
  • 00:38:15.200 --> 00:38:17.030
  • and forward pointing.
  • 00:38:17.030 --> 00:38:19.070
  • Thank you, Steven.
  • 00:38:19.070 --> 00:38:20.050
  • - Time: So, Steve, in summary,
  • 00:38:23.100 --> 00:38:25.020
  • is there anything that you feel
  • 00:38:25.020 --> 00:38:27.020
  • like you wanna add
  • 00:38:27.020 --> 00:38:27.240
  • to that conversation.
  • 00:38:27.240 --> 00:38:29.010
  • - Steve Penny: The first thing
  • 00:38:29.010 --> 00:38:29.240
  • I wanna say is that I was
  • 00:38:29.240 --> 00:38:31.180
  • hijacked by Pastor Brian.
  • 00:38:31.280 --> 00:38:34.280
  • He doesn't give you
  • 00:38:34.280 --> 00:38:35.250
  • the details of what's coming.
  • 00:38:35.250 --> 00:38:37.250
  • But we've been friends
  • 00:38:37.250 --> 00:38:39.230
  • a long time.
  • 00:38:39.230 --> 00:38:40.280
  • And we do meet in Noosa
  • 00:38:40.280 --> 00:38:42.030
  • in January every year.
  • 00:38:42.030 --> 00:38:43.280
  • He said at the end
  • 00:38:43.280 --> 00:38:45.020
  • it was my turn to pay.
  • 00:38:45.020 --> 00:38:46.170
  • That's not true.
  • 00:38:46.170 --> 00:38:47.160
  • I normally pay,
  • 00:38:47.160 --> 00:38:48.180
  • and he hasn't--anyway.
  • 00:38:48.180 --> 00:38:51.150
  • We've been doing that
  • 00:38:51.150 --> 00:38:52.060
  • for a lot of years.
  • 00:38:52.060 --> 00:38:53.150
  • But as I said,
  • 00:38:53.150 --> 00:38:54.060
  • about 4 years ago,
  • 00:38:54.060 --> 00:38:55.270
  • Brian started to pay attention.
  • 00:38:55.270 --> 00:38:58.150
  • 'Cause if he's--anyway, and
  • 00:38:58.150 --> 00:39:01.150
  • so he started to pay attention
  • 00:39:01.150 --> 00:39:03.180
  • and started, I think,
  • 00:39:03.180 --> 00:39:04.290
  • to draw the prophetic out.
  • 00:39:04.290 --> 00:39:06.220
  • You know, "What's God saying?"
  • 00:39:06.220 --> 00:39:08.000
  • You know, we'd talk about it,
  • 00:39:08.000 --> 00:39:09.170
  • et cetera.
  • 00:39:09.170 --> 00:39:10.180
  • And so over the past few years,
  • 00:39:10.180 --> 00:39:12.230
  • I've shared my God word with
  • 00:39:12.230 --> 00:39:15.030
  • Brian as a prophet to an apostle
  • 00:39:15.120 --> 00:39:18.120
  • or a king over a house, which I
  • 00:39:18.120 --> 00:39:20.170
  • think is what prophets do best.
  • 00:39:20.170 --> 00:39:22.190
  • And then Brian takes it away
  • 00:39:22.190 --> 00:39:25.010
  • and he regurgitates it from his
  • 00:39:25.010 --> 00:39:27.210
  • perspective of the kingdom.
  • 00:39:27.210 --> 00:39:29.180
  • And then, the last 3 years
  • 00:39:29.180 --> 00:39:31.260
  • at least, he's the preached that
  • 00:39:31.260 --> 00:39:33.050
  • as a king's word to your family,
  • 00:39:33.250 --> 00:39:36.250
  • your network, and beyond.
  • 00:39:36.250 --> 00:39:38.170
  • I take it then to other churches
  • 00:39:38.170 --> 00:39:39.240
  • as well.
  • 00:39:39.240 --> 00:39:41.040
  • It's a unique relationship.
  • 00:39:41.040 --> 00:39:42.260
  • I have deep respect for Brian.
  • 00:39:42.260 --> 00:39:44.290
  • What God's done through Hillsong
  • 00:39:44.290 --> 00:39:47.010
  • is life changing for me.
  • 00:39:47.010 --> 00:39:49.010
  • And so for me to be able to sit
  • 00:39:49.010 --> 00:39:51.010
  • with him, and as friends,
  • 00:39:51.010 --> 00:39:52.170
  • just share what God's saying,
  • 00:39:52.170 --> 00:39:55.070
  • and then hear it coming from a
  • 00:39:55.070 --> 00:39:57.110
  • leader of a great movement in
  • 00:39:57.110 --> 00:39:59.220
  • his unique way is pretty amazing
  • 00:40:00.090 --> 00:40:03.090
  • around the world.
  • 00:40:03.090 --> 00:40:05.020
  • - Emma: Now, Marion,
  • 00:40:05.020 --> 00:40:05.270
  • Brian asked you a question
  • 00:40:05.270 --> 00:40:07.210
  • or two yesterday.
  • 00:40:07.210 --> 00:40:08.240
  • It's a safe place.
  • 00:40:08.240 --> 00:40:09.240
  • He's not here.
  • 00:40:09.240 --> 00:40:11.110
  • No one's watching.
  • 00:40:11.110 --> 00:40:12.130
  • Is there anything you would like
  • 00:40:12.130 --> 00:40:13.150
  • to add to that conversation?
  • 00:40:13.150 --> 00:40:15.240
  • - Marion: I think Brian asked
  • 00:40:15.240 --> 00:40:16.170
  • were prophets a bit hard to live
  • 00:40:16.170 --> 00:40:18.200
  • with or something like that.
  • 00:40:18.200 --> 00:40:20.100
  • - Steve Penny: Now, be careful,
  • 00:40:20.100 --> 00:40:20.290
  • Marion.
  • 00:40:20.290 --> 00:40:21.210
  • - Marion: And I think
  • 00:40:21.210 --> 00:40:22.060
  • I was very kind, really.
  • 00:40:22.060 --> 00:40:23.240
  • So I can just be a little more
  • 00:40:23.240 --> 00:40:26.050
  • emphatic and say, "Yes."
  • 00:40:26.230 --> 00:40:29.230
  • - Steve Penny: I appreciate
  • 00:40:29.230 --> 00:40:30.100
  • your candor.
  • 00:40:30.100 --> 00:40:31.210
  • - Emma: Well, we're praying
  • 00:40:31.210 --> 00:40:33.140
  • for you.
  • 00:40:33.140 --> 00:40:34.050
  • - Marion: Thank you.
  • 00:40:34.050 --> 00:40:35.030
  • Yeah, don't stop.
  • 00:40:35.030 --> 00:40:36.290
  • - Steve Penny:
  • 00:40:36.290 --> 00:40:37.140
  • She's a strong girl.
  • 00:40:37.140 --> 00:40:39.100
  • She's the strength of my life,
  • 00:40:39.100 --> 00:40:41.030
  • and you know,
  • 00:40:41.030 --> 00:40:41.210
  • together we're a great team.
  • 00:40:41.210 --> 00:40:43.060
  • - Marion: Thank you.
  • 00:40:43.060 --> 00:40:44.140
  • - Steve Penny: Have I never
  • 00:40:44.140 --> 00:40:45.140
  • said that before, Marion?
  • 00:40:45.140 --> 00:40:47.000
  • - Marion: No.
  • 00:40:47.000 --> 00:40:47.190
  • - both: Aww.
  • 00:40:47.190 --> 00:40:48.220
  • - Emma: Can you say it
  • 00:40:48.220 --> 00:40:49.070
  • one more time?
  • 00:40:49.070 --> 00:40:49.290
  • Say it one more time.
  • 00:40:49.290 --> 00:40:50.160
  • - Steve Penny:
  • 00:40:50.160 --> 00:40:51.040
  • She is the strength of my life.
  • 00:40:51.040 --> 00:40:52.240
  • I go out and rev people up, and
  • 00:40:52.240 --> 00:40:54.080
  • I come home, and she just--
  • 00:40:54.080 --> 00:40:56.010
  • - Marion: I just calm him down.
  • 00:40:56.010 --> 00:40:58.010
  • - Steve Penny: She keeps
  • 00:40:58.010 --> 00:41:00.150
  • our family, our house,
  • 00:41:00.150 --> 00:41:01.140
  • together really well.
  • 00:41:01.140 --> 00:41:02.270
  • - Emma: Very good.
  • 00:41:02.270 --> 00:41:03.230
  • Very good.
  • 00:41:03.230 --> 00:41:04.230
  • - Marion: Thank you.
  • 00:41:04.230 --> 00:41:05.190
  • - Emma: Steve and Marion Penny,
  • 00:41:05.190 --> 00:41:06.170
  • thank you so much for sharing
  • 00:41:06.170 --> 00:41:07.160
  • your heart with us.
  • 00:41:07.160 --> 00:41:08.100
  • - Tim: And after the break.
  • 00:41:10.110 --> 00:41:11.280
  • - Brian: I think when people
  • 00:41:11.280 --> 00:41:12.280
  • get vulnerable and honest,
  • 00:41:12.280 --> 00:41:14.050
  • then people can connect with
  • 00:41:14.050 --> 00:41:16.020
  • that a whole lot better because
  • 00:41:16.020 --> 00:41:17.010
  • it's much closer to pretty well
  • 00:41:17.010 --> 00:41:18.220
  • everybody's real life.
  • 00:41:18.220 --> 00:41:20.020
  • And so I really tried to do that
  • 00:41:20.020 --> 00:41:21.120
  • in this book.
  • 00:41:21.120 --> 00:41:22.240
  • - Niyah: Well, who was the book
  • 00:41:22.240 --> 00:41:23.130
  • written for?
  • 00:41:23.130 --> 00:41:24.080
  • - Brian: Who was it
  • 00:41:24.080 --> 00:41:24.240
  • written for?
  • 00:41:24.240 --> 00:41:25.140
  • - Niyah: Yeah.
  • 00:41:25.140 --> 00:41:25.290
  • - Brian: You, Niyah.
  • 00:41:25.290 --> 00:41:26.190
  • It was written for you.
  • 00:41:26.190 --> 00:41:27.130
  • - Tim: The foyer studio
  • 00:41:32.250 --> 00:41:33.140
  • have some incredible guests
  • 00:41:33.140 --> 00:41:34.170
  • with them.
  • 00:41:34.170 --> 00:41:35.050
  • Let's go see who
  • 00:41:35.050 --> 00:41:35.230
  • - Niyah: Thanks, guys.
  • 00:41:38.280 --> 00:41:39.190
  • There are so many people
  • 00:41:39.190 --> 00:41:41.110
  • benefiting from conference,
  • 00:41:41.110 --> 00:41:42.030
  • from the teachings,
  • 00:41:42.030 --> 00:41:43.080
  • from the fellowship
  • 00:41:43.080 --> 00:41:44.040
  • that only conference can bring.
  • 00:41:44.040 --> 00:41:45.250
  • And joining us again
  • 00:41:45.250 --> 00:41:47.140
  • is none other than
  • 00:41:47.140 --> 00:41:48.260
  • our very own senior pastors,
  • 00:41:48.260 --> 00:41:50.110
  • Pastor Brian and Bobbie Houston.
  • 00:41:50.110 --> 00:41:52.050
  • - Bobbie: Hi, guys.
  • 00:41:52.050 --> 00:41:52.230
  • How are ya?
  • 00:41:52.230 --> 00:41:53.140
  • - Niyah: Thank you.
  • 00:41:53.140 --> 00:41:54.010
  • Thank you so much
  • 00:41:54.010 --> 00:41:54.170
  • for joining us.
  • 00:41:54.170 --> 00:41:55.110
  • Now, conference is jam packed.
  • 00:41:55.110 --> 00:41:56.290
  • There's so many things,
  • 00:41:56.290 --> 00:41:57.270
  • streams going on,
  • 00:41:57.270 --> 00:41:59.000
  • sessions going on.
  • 00:41:59.000 --> 00:42:00.130
  • How do you fit it all in
  • 00:42:00.130 --> 00:42:01.290
  • the short amount of time
  • 00:42:01.290 --> 00:42:02.290
  • that we have?
  • 00:42:02.290 --> 00:42:03.290
  • - Bobbie: Well, you basically
  • 00:42:03.290 --> 00:42:05.120
  • don't have time to go the
  • 00:42:05.120 --> 00:42:06.040
  • bathroom, in all truthness.
  • 00:42:06.040 --> 00:42:08.020
  • - Brian: We personally don't
  • 00:42:08.020 --> 00:42:08.200
  • try to get into it all
  • 00:42:08.200 --> 00:42:09.120
  • because it would
  • 00:42:09.120 --> 00:42:10.130
  • be physically impossible.
  • 00:42:10.130 --> 00:42:11.190
  • As you know, this conference is
  • 00:42:11.190 --> 00:42:12.160
  • not just here in this big arena
  • 00:42:12.160 --> 00:42:14.080
  • where the Olympic basketball
  • 00:42:14.080 --> 00:42:16.280
  • was played in 2000, but it's
  • 00:42:16.280 --> 00:42:18.160
  • also in many breakout areas.
  • 00:42:18.160 --> 00:42:20.060
  • I mean, Young & Free,
  • 00:42:20.060 --> 00:42:21.110
  • as you know, possibly,
  • 00:42:21.110 --> 00:42:22.180
  • is several thousand young people
  • 00:42:22.180 --> 00:42:24.060
  • in another nearby big space.
  • 00:42:24.060 --> 00:42:26.150
  • And so it's impossible
  • 00:42:26.150 --> 00:42:28.130
  • to get to everything.
  • 00:42:28.130 --> 00:42:29.060
  • So what we try to do,
  • 00:42:29.060 --> 00:42:30.050
  • personally, is just focus
  • 00:42:30.050 --> 00:42:31.280
  • on what we have to do,
  • 00:42:31.280 --> 00:42:33.290
  • and rely on everyone else
  • 00:42:33.290 --> 00:42:36.060
  • to carry it all off.
  • 00:42:36.060 --> 00:42:37.190
  • - Terry Price: I think a lot of
  • 00:42:37.190 --> 00:42:38.180
  • folks who are watching us can
  • 00:42:38.180 --> 00:42:39.250
  • clearly see the buzz, the
  • 00:42:39.250 --> 00:42:41.060
  • atmosphere that's happening
  • 00:42:41.060 --> 00:42:42.080
  • behind us in the foyer.
  • 00:42:42.080 --> 00:42:43.230
  • And a lot of that is centered
  • 00:42:43.230 --> 00:42:44.290
  • around some resource displays.
  • 00:42:44.290 --> 00:42:47.080
  • And one of the great resources
  • 00:42:47.080 --> 00:42:49.250
  • that we certainly enjoyed
  • 00:42:49.250 --> 00:42:51.180
  • is "Live Love Lead,"
  • 00:42:51.180 --> 00:42:53.210
  • which has clearly become
  • 00:42:53.210 --> 00:42:55.010
  • an international bestseller?
  • 00:42:55.010 --> 00:42:56.120
  • What was in your heart when you
  • 00:42:56.120 --> 00:42:58.010
  • sat down and put pen to paper
  • 00:42:58.010 --> 00:42:59.260
  • to write "Live Love Lead"?
  • 00:42:59.260 --> 00:43:01.220
  • - Brian: Well, that particular
  • 00:43:01.220 --> 00:43:02.210
  • book, you know, it's talking
  • 00:43:02.210 --> 00:43:03.210
  • about, and you know,
  • 00:43:03.210 --> 00:43:05.130
  • it's very close to my heart.
  • 00:43:05.130 --> 00:43:06.140
  • We tell a lot, I tell a lot
  • 00:43:06.140 --> 00:43:08.100
  • of my own story,
  • 00:43:08.100 --> 00:43:09.080
  • Bobbie's and my story,
  • 00:43:09.080 --> 00:43:10.110
  • a lot of Hillsong Church story,
  • 00:43:10.110 --> 00:43:11.230
  • all with the intent of focusing
  • 00:43:11.250 --> 00:43:14.250
  • on the other person
  • 00:43:14.250 --> 00:43:15.210
  • and helping people to reach
  • 00:43:15.210 --> 00:43:16.190
  • their potential.
  • 00:43:16.190 --> 00:43:17.160
  • I'm always about seeing people
  • 00:43:17.160 --> 00:43:19.050
  • fulfill their amazing potential.
  • 00:43:19.120 --> 00:43:22.120
  • And so there, just talking about
  • 00:43:22.120 --> 00:43:24.070
  • what's available through
  • 00:43:24.070 --> 00:43:25.090
  • the name of Jesus, of the great
  • 00:43:25.090 --> 00:43:26.220
  • and glorious future that's ahead
  • 00:43:26.220 --> 00:43:27.260
  • for people.
  • 00:43:27.260 --> 00:43:28.230
  • That really is the thesis
  • 00:43:28.230 --> 00:43:29.230
  • of the book.
  • 00:43:29.230 --> 00:43:30.220
  • - Terry: I'm really curious,
  • 00:43:30.220 --> 00:43:31.100
  • a lot of your own
  • 00:43:31.100 --> 00:43:31.270
  • personal journey.
  • 00:43:31.270 --> 00:43:32.250
  • It talks about your own
  • 00:43:32.250 --> 00:43:34.040
  • successes and some
  • 00:43:34.040 --> 00:43:35.240
  • of the challenges, and--
  • 00:43:35.240 --> 00:43:36.210
  • - Brian: Yeah, well,
  • 00:43:36.210 --> 00:43:37.090
  • I was very, also very determined
  • 00:43:37.090 --> 00:43:38.210
  • to be honest in the book
  • 00:43:38.210 --> 00:43:39.200
  • and authentic.
  • 00:43:39.200 --> 00:43:40.170
  • And I think sometimes people can
  • 00:43:40.170 --> 00:43:41.280
  • look at this, and success, and
  • 00:43:41.280 --> 00:43:43.140
  • you know, they can respect it.
  • 00:43:43.140 --> 00:43:45.240
  • But I think when people
  • 00:43:45.240 --> 00:43:47.020
  • get vulnerable and honest,
  • 00:43:47.020 --> 00:43:48.120
  • then people can connect with
  • 00:43:48.120 --> 00:43:50.040
  • that a whole lot better because
  • 00:43:50.040 --> 00:43:51.050
  • it's much closer to pretty well
  • 00:43:51.050 --> 00:43:52.110
  • everybody's real life.
  • 00:43:52.110 --> 00:43:54.110
  • And so I really tried to do that
  • 00:43:54.110 --> 00:43:55.210
  • in this book.
  • 00:43:55.210 --> 00:43:56.170
  • - Niyah: Well, who was the book
  • 00:43:56.170 --> 00:43:57.170
  • written for?
  • 00:43:57.170 --> 00:43:58.110
  • - Brian: Who was it
  • 00:43:58.110 --> 00:43:59.010
  • written for?
  • 00:43:59.010 --> 00:44:00.030
  • - Niyah: Yeah.
  • 00:44:00.030 --> 00:44:00.250
  • - Brian: You, Niyah.
  • 00:44:00.250 --> 00:44:01.210
  • It was written for you.
  • 00:44:01.210 --> 00:44:02.110
  • - Niyah: Yes.
  • 00:44:02.110 --> 00:44:03.030
  • - Brian: Every time I started
  • 00:44:03.030 --> 00:44:03.270
  • to take pen to paper,
  • 00:44:03.270 --> 00:44:04.180
  • I thought, "Niyah."
  • 00:44:04.180 --> 00:44:05.120
  • It's really written for people,
  • 00:44:05.120 --> 00:44:06.180
  • just everyone,
  • 00:44:06.180 --> 00:44:07.140
  • all walks of life.
  • 00:44:07.140 --> 00:44:08.130
  • And you know, it's interesting
  • 00:44:08.130 --> 00:44:10.100
  • because I know a lot
  • 00:44:10.100 --> 00:44:11.070
  • of non-believers and unchurch
  • 00:44:11.070 --> 00:44:13.060
  • people who have got that book
  • 00:44:13.060 --> 00:44:14.070
  • and been greatly impacted by it.
  • 00:44:14.070 --> 00:44:16.070
  • And yeah, I just really wanna
  • 00:44:16.230 --> 00:44:19.230
  • reach a broad spectrum
  • 00:44:19.230 --> 00:44:20.280
  • of people.
  • 00:44:20.280 --> 00:44:21.220
  • - Bobbie: You know,
  • 00:44:21.220 --> 00:44:22.080
  • there's a lot of people
  • 00:44:22.080 --> 00:44:23.020
  • who know of Hillsong, I think,
  • 00:44:23.020 --> 00:44:24.220
  • through our worship
  • 00:44:24.220 --> 00:44:25.240
  • and the sound of our house.
  • 00:44:25.240 --> 00:44:26.290
  • And so I really hope that they
  • 00:44:26.290 --> 00:44:28.250
  • will actually engage in that and
  • 00:44:28.250 --> 00:44:30.030
  • read it because there's a lot
  • 00:44:30.030 --> 00:44:30.260
  • more behind that.
  • 00:44:30.260 --> 00:44:31.190
  • There's, you know,
  • 00:44:31.190 --> 00:44:32.160
  • we've often said it.
  • 00:44:32.160 --> 00:44:33.060
  • Our worship, our music, is like
  • 00:44:33.060 --> 00:44:34.220
  • an arrowhead, and it pierces
  • 00:44:34.220 --> 00:44:36.190
  • into places that, you know,
  • 00:44:36.190 --> 00:44:38.060
  • only music can penetrate,
  • 00:44:38.060 --> 00:44:39.200
  • nations, cultures, lives.
  • 00:44:39.200 --> 00:44:41.150
  • But you know behind that,
  • 00:44:41.150 --> 00:44:43.040
  • the people who have got
  • 00:44:43.040 --> 00:44:44.000
  • an inquiring heart, is a church,
  • 00:44:44.000 --> 00:44:45.070
  • and a beautiful message
  • 00:44:45.070 --> 00:44:46.040
  • about the church.
  • 00:44:46.040 --> 00:44:46.290
  • And I think, you know, if they
  • 00:44:46.290 --> 00:44:48.010
  • were to read Brian's book, that
  • 00:44:48.010 --> 00:44:49.250
  • one in particular, they would
  • 00:44:49.250 --> 00:44:51.130
  • capture the heart and the soul
  • 00:44:51.130 --> 00:44:52.200
  • of what makes this thing,
  • 00:44:52.200 --> 00:44:54.290
  • you know, what it is, you know--
  • 00:44:54.290 --> 00:44:56.160
  • - Terry: What's really exciting
  • 00:44:56.160 --> 00:44:57.130
  • is the fact that it's now
  • 00:44:57.130 --> 00:44:58.190
  • come out in a devotional.
  • 00:44:58.190 --> 00:45:00.040
  • And we're super excited in
  • 00:45:00.040 --> 00:45:01.260
  • Phoenix because it's also come
  • 00:45:01.260 --> 00:45:03.080
  • out in a small group study.
  • 00:45:03.080 --> 00:45:04.260
  • And so it's not just a matter
  • 00:45:04.260 --> 00:45:06.120
  • of reading it personally,
  • 00:45:06.120 --> 00:45:07.150
  • but our connect groups
  • 00:45:07.150 --> 00:45:08.250
  • can all join together and kinda
  • 00:45:08.250 --> 00:45:10.190
  • work through the curriculum.
  • 00:45:10.190 --> 00:45:11.160
  • So we're really excited
  • 00:45:11.160 --> 00:45:12.220
  • about that.
  • 00:45:12.220 --> 00:45:13.170
  • - Brian: Yeah, I am too.
  • 00:45:13.170 --> 00:45:14.100
  • That devotional is
  • 00:45:14.100 --> 00:45:15.040
  • "90 Days to Live Love Lead."
  • 00:45:15.040 --> 00:45:16.160
  • So it's a 90-day devotional.
  • 00:45:16.160 --> 00:45:18.110
  • And it's really, really comes
  • 00:45:18.110 --> 00:45:21.020
  • from the pages of the book.
  • 00:45:21.020 --> 00:45:22.190
  • It's very focused, obviously, on
  • 00:45:22.190 --> 00:45:23.290
  • Jesus and the Word.
  • 00:45:23.290 --> 00:45:25.010
  • And I really pray that
  • 00:45:25.010 --> 00:45:26.240
  • that brings people closer
  • 00:45:26.240 --> 00:45:28.000
  • to Jesus and his purpose
  • 00:45:28.000 --> 00:45:29.170
  • for their lives.
  • 00:45:29.170 --> 00:45:30.190
  • And it's really the same
  • 00:45:30.190 --> 00:45:32.020
  • with the curriculum.
  • 00:45:32.020 --> 00:45:33.180
  • It's a personal
  • 00:45:33.180 --> 00:45:34.110
  • or small-group study.
  • 00:45:34.110 --> 00:45:35.220
  • And so you can do it by yourself
  • 00:45:35.220 --> 00:45:37.040
  • or you can do it
  • 00:45:37.040 --> 00:45:37.240
  • with a group of people.
  • 00:45:37.240 --> 00:45:38.240
  • And it's the same thing.
  • 00:45:38.240 --> 00:45:39.240
  • We, in Los Angeles actually,
  • 00:45:39.240 --> 00:45:41.160
  • in a really cool space right
  • 00:45:41.170 --> 00:45:44.170
  • in Hollywood, I sat
  • 00:45:44.170 --> 00:45:46.120
  • and taught about 100 people
  • 00:45:46.120 --> 00:45:48.210
  • from Hillsong LA
  • 00:45:48.210 --> 00:45:50.150
  • and just did lessons that there
  • 00:45:50.150 --> 00:45:52.260
  • are recorded, again, all
  • 00:45:52.260 --> 00:45:54.190
  • basically connected to the book,
  • 00:45:54.190 --> 00:45:56.070
  • that I'm really believing will
  • 00:45:56.070 --> 00:45:58.130
  • have a big, big, big and
  • 00:45:58.130 --> 00:45:59.190
  • profound impact on small groups,
  • 00:45:59.190 --> 00:46:01.230
  • on churches, and on people.
  • 00:46:01.230 --> 00:46:04.010
  • It's all about people.
  • 00:46:04.010 --> 00:46:05.190
  • - Terry: It is.
  • 00:46:05.190 --> 00:46:06.120
  • It's all about people.
  • 00:46:06.120 --> 00:46:07.120
  • - Niyah: Now, we can't talk
  • 00:46:07.120 --> 00:46:08.030
  • about "Live Love Lead"
  • 00:46:08.030 --> 00:46:09.010
  • without talking about
  • 00:46:09.010 --> 00:46:09.290
  • "The Sisterhood."
  • 00:46:09.290 --> 00:46:11.220
  • Pastor Bobbie, now, talk to me.
  • 00:46:11.220 --> 00:46:13.180
  • Tell me about this book.
  • 00:46:13.180 --> 00:46:14.290
  • Where did it come from?
  • 00:46:14.290 --> 00:46:16.050
  • Where was it birthed out of?
  • 00:46:16.050 --> 00:46:17.160
  • - Bobbie: I think we're livin'
  • 00:46:17.160 --> 00:46:18.050
  • in remarkable days.
  • 00:46:18.050 --> 00:46:19.160
  • God is just, you know,
  • 00:46:19.160 --> 00:46:20.170
  • orchestrating something quite
  • 00:46:20.170 --> 00:46:22.150
  • miraculous in his church,
  • 00:46:22.150 --> 00:46:23.270
  • men and women together.
  • 00:46:23.270 --> 00:46:25.010
  • And so, for us, you know,
  • 00:46:25.010 --> 00:46:26.260
  • that book gives expression
  • 00:46:26.260 --> 00:46:27.260
  • to our 20-year,
  • 00:46:27.260 --> 00:46:28.280
  • more than 20-year journey,
  • 00:46:28.280 --> 00:46:30.170
  • where God awakened our hearts
  • 00:46:30.170 --> 00:46:32.120
  • to the power and the potential
  • 00:46:32.120 --> 00:46:33.130
  • within the feminine heart
  • 00:46:33.130 --> 00:46:34.290
  • and how important she is,
  • 00:46:34.290 --> 00:46:36.140
  • not just out here but for her
  • 00:46:36.140 --> 00:46:38.130
  • to come front and center
  • 00:46:38.130 --> 00:46:39.100
  • of what God is doing,
  • 00:46:39.100 --> 00:46:40.180
  • to come alongside the men.
  • 00:46:40.180 --> 00:46:41.190
  • And so, in essence, it's the
  • 00:46:41.190 --> 00:46:43.140
  • story of Sisterhood and an
  • 00:46:43.140 --> 00:46:44.220
  • awakening in our own, I guess,
  • 00:46:44.220 --> 00:46:46.270
  • on the earth, but in our own
  • 00:46:46.270 --> 00:46:47.290
  • heart and soul, our own house,
  • 00:46:47.290 --> 00:46:49.130
  • to the power of that.
  • 00:46:49.130 --> 00:46:51.010
  • And you know, I just thought
  • 00:46:51.010 --> 00:46:53.120
  • to capture the spirit
  • 00:46:53.120 --> 00:46:55.210
  • of what it's about.
  • 00:46:55.210 --> 00:46:56.190
  • Because sometimes people
  • 00:46:56.190 --> 00:46:57.120
  • can come and perhaps look at
  • 00:46:57.120 --> 00:46:58.220
  • the women's conference,
  • 00:46:58.220 --> 00:46:59.180
  • the Colour Conference,
  • 00:46:59.180 --> 00:47:00.130
  • and think, "Well, that's well,
  • 00:47:00.130 --> 00:47:02.150
  • that's what we must do.
  • 00:47:02.150 --> 00:47:03.130
  • We must host an event, and get
  • 00:47:03.130 --> 00:47:05.000
  • guest speakers, and all that."
  • 00:47:05.000 --> 00:47:06.000
  • Wonderful.
  • 00:47:06.000 --> 00:47:07.030
  • But it runs deeper than that
  • 00:47:07.030 --> 00:47:08.030
  • because it's got the local
  • 00:47:08.030 --> 00:47:09.010
  • church and what women,
  • 00:47:09.010 --> 00:47:09.290
  • when they are, literally, when
  • 00:47:09.290 --> 00:47:11.200
  • that feminine heart is empowered
  • 00:47:11.200 --> 00:47:12.260
  • as God intended, what we can
  • 00:47:12.260 --> 00:47:14.270
  • actually do to make the world
  • 00:47:14.270 --> 00:47:17.000
  • a better place, to, you know,
  • 00:47:17.000 --> 00:47:18.120
  • women, when they network,
  • 00:47:18.120 --> 00:47:19.150
  • when they roll up their sleeves,
  • 00:47:19.150 --> 00:47:20.240
  • and put their hand to the plow,
  • 00:47:20.240 --> 00:47:22.000
  • that feminine,
  • 00:47:22.000 --> 00:47:23.070
  • maternal heart awakens to need.
  • 00:47:23.070 --> 00:47:25.010
  • Often the first to hear the cry
  • 00:47:25.010 --> 00:47:27.030
  • of the afflicted.
  • 00:47:27.030 --> 00:47:28.050
  • It gives expression to that.
  • 00:47:28.050 --> 00:47:29.160
  • So some of my own personal
  • 00:47:29.160 --> 00:47:30.210
  • stories there.
  • 00:47:30.210 --> 00:47:31.140
  • Some of the things that I had to
  • 00:47:31.140 --> 00:47:32.260
  • get over so that I wasn't as
  • 00:47:32.260 --> 00:47:34.230
  • contained so what was in me
  • 00:47:34.230 --> 00:47:36.050
  • could come forth.
  • 00:47:36.050 --> 00:47:37.120
  • And you know, I tell
  • 00:47:37.120 --> 00:47:38.070
  • a little bit of that story.
  • 00:47:38.070 --> 00:47:39.050
  • It's somewhat of a memoir,
  • 00:47:39.050 --> 00:47:40.100
  • but more than that.
  • 00:47:40.100 --> 00:47:40.280
  • And I really hope that not just
  • 00:47:40.280 --> 00:47:42.200
  • women will read it but that men
  • 00:47:42.200 --> 00:47:44.160
  • will because, you know, as much
  • 00:47:44.160 --> 00:47:46.120
  • as the feminine heart needs to
  • 00:47:46.120 --> 00:47:47.150
  • be awakened, the men to realize
  • 00:47:47.150 --> 00:47:49.140
  • that, "Hey, God's doing
  • 00:47:49.140 --> 00:47:50.080
  • something amongst the girls,"
  • 00:47:50.080 --> 00:47:51.180
  • and amongst their wives
  • 00:47:51.180 --> 00:47:52.110
  • and daughters and family.
  • 00:47:52.110 --> 00:47:53.270
  • So there's a lot of gold sitting
  • 00:47:53.270 --> 00:47:56.020
  • within the feminine heart,
  • 00:47:56.020 --> 00:47:57.170
  • and I do pray that pastors
  • 00:47:57.170 --> 00:47:59.100
  • will recognize that and allow
  • 00:47:59.100 --> 00:48:01.260
  • that to come to the fore
  • 00:48:01.260 --> 00:48:03.230
  • as God intended.
  • 00:48:03.230 --> 00:48:04.190
  • And so, in essence,
  • 00:48:04.190 --> 00:48:05.170
  • that's the heart of the book.
  • 00:48:05.170 --> 00:48:06.200
  • - Terry: And I would say that's
  • 00:48:06.200 --> 00:48:07.090
  • been my experience as well,
  • 00:48:07.090 --> 00:48:08.160
  • having read the book,
  • 00:48:08.160 --> 00:48:09.160
  • is that I don't think
  • 00:48:09.160 --> 00:48:10.200
  • I would ever self-describe
  • 00:48:10.200 --> 00:48:11.260
  • as having a feminine heart.
  • 00:48:11.260 --> 00:48:13.040
  • But I certainly have a feminine
  • 00:48:13.040 --> 00:48:14.190
  • wife, and daughters-in-law,
  • 00:48:14.190 --> 00:48:16.070
  • and raising up--absolutely.
  • 00:48:16.070 --> 00:48:18.110
  • - Bobbie: Male and female,
  • 00:48:18.110 --> 00:48:19.070
  • in the image of God.
  • 00:48:19.070 --> 00:48:20.040
  • So it's incredible.
  • 00:48:20.040 --> 00:48:21.120
  • - Terry: And I really connected
  • 00:48:21.120 --> 00:48:22.010
  • with it deeply.
  • 00:48:22.010 --> 00:48:22.230
  • But I have to say, almost every
  • 00:48:22.230 --> 00:48:24.150
  • time I hear you preach,
  • 00:48:24.150 --> 00:48:25.170
  • you make me cry.
  • 00:48:25.170 --> 00:48:27.000
  • And there is just something--
  • 00:48:27.000 --> 00:48:28.260
  • - Bobbie: Does Brian
  • 00:48:28.260 --> 00:48:29.150
  • make you cry?
  • 00:48:29.150 --> 00:48:30.090
  • - Terry: It's in the best of
  • 00:48:30.090 --> 00:48:30.290
  • ways, the way you language, you
  • 00:48:30.290 --> 00:48:33.130
  • give expression to a prophetic
  • 00:48:33.130 --> 00:48:35.210
  • sense of what God is saying to
  • 00:48:35.210 --> 00:48:38.110
  • the church in our generation,
  • 00:48:38.110 --> 00:48:40.080
  • always awakens something deep
  • 00:48:40.080 --> 00:48:41.150
  • within me.
  • 00:48:41.150 --> 00:48:42.120
  • So I don't know if you had guys
  • 00:48:42.120 --> 00:48:43.090
  • in mind when you wrote it,
  • 00:48:43.090 --> 00:48:44.170
  • but thanks.
  • 00:48:44.170 --> 00:48:45.210
  • - Bobbie: I did.
  • 00:48:45.210 --> 00:48:46.130
  • I actually did.
  • 00:48:46.130 --> 00:48:47.010
  • - Terry: It's a gift to us.
  • 00:48:47.010 --> 00:48:47.200
  • - Brian: Even our oldest son,
  • 00:48:47.200 --> 00:48:48.080
  • today, when Bobbie spoke, was
  • 00:48:48.080 --> 00:48:50.140
  • pretty impacted by your message.
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  • So that's pretty cool.
  • 00:48:52.250 --> 00:48:53.270
  • Yeah, he was cryin', yeah.
  • 00:48:53.270 --> 00:48:55.170
  • You took--but what I was gonna
  • 00:48:55.170 --> 00:48:57.070
  • say is this is actually
  • 00:48:57.070 --> 00:48:58.060
  • a very fantastic cover.
  • 00:48:58.060 --> 00:48:59.220
  • And the photo of Bobbie is much
  • 00:48:59.220 --> 00:49:01.080
  • bigger than the photo of me
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  • on the front of my book.
  • 00:49:02.050 --> 00:49:03.030
  • - Bobbie: Yeah, I know.
  • 00:49:03.030 --> 00:49:03.230
  • - Brian: And there's a very
  • 00:49:03.230 --> 00:49:04.100
  • good reason for that.
  • 00:49:04.100 --> 00:49:05.040
  • She's much, much more pretty
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  • than I am, much prettier.
  • 00:49:06.140 --> 00:49:09.090
  • - Niyah: Now,
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  • before you leave us,
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  • we have to ask this question.
  • 00:49:10.170 --> 00:49:11.160
  • Since we're here at
  • 00:49:11.160 --> 00:49:12.160
  • Hillsong Conference,
  • 00:49:12.160 --> 00:49:13.160
  • let's talk about the future
  • 00:49:13.160 --> 00:49:15.020
  • of Hillsong Conference.
  • 00:49:15.020 --> 00:49:16.110
  • Where do you see it going?
  • 00:49:16.110 --> 00:49:17.170
  • Let's look forward.
  • 00:49:17.170 --> 00:49:20.020
  • - Brian: It's funny because,
  • 00:49:20.020 --> 00:49:21.030
  • you know, in some ways
  • 00:49:21.030 --> 00:49:22.110
  • we're always looking forwards,
  • 00:49:22.110 --> 00:49:23.130
  • which we need to be doing.
  • 00:49:23.130 --> 00:49:24.230
  • I believe absolutely
  • 00:49:24.230 --> 00:49:25.290
  • in being loyal to the future.
  • 00:49:25.290 --> 00:49:27.120
  • But in other ways, we're really
  • 00:49:27.120 --> 00:49:28.210
  • just living in the moment
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  • and just trusting God
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  • to see where it all goes.
  • 00:49:32.080 --> 00:49:33.100
  • I mean, I couldn't have imagined
  • 00:49:33.100 --> 00:49:34.100
  • 10 years ago that we'd still be
  • 00:49:34.100 --> 00:49:36.040
  • here now and we'd be sitting,
  • 00:49:36.040 --> 00:49:37.160
  • and that the conference
  • 00:49:37.160 --> 00:49:38.100
  • would now be rolled out
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  • to other parts of the world.
  • 00:49:39.110 --> 00:49:40.170
  • And so I just really trust God
  • 00:49:40.170 --> 00:49:42.290
  • and try and stay sensitive to
  • 00:49:42.290 --> 00:49:44.160
  • him, and just stay true to what
  • 00:49:44.160 --> 00:49:45.280
  • we're doing right now,
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  • and watch what happens.
  • 00:49:46.270 --> 00:49:48.190
  • - Terry: And next year
  • 00:49:48.190 --> 00:49:49.110
  • is number 31, so.
  • 00:49:49.110 --> 00:49:50.270
  • - Brian: Number 31,
  • 00:49:50.270 --> 00:49:51.210
  • it's the platinum conference.
  • 00:49:51.210 --> 00:49:53.210
  • - Terry: The platinum
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  • conference, awesome.
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  • Love you, guys.
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  • Appreciate you so much.
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  • It's been an honor to have you
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  • - Emma: Coming up next time.
  • 00:50:01.110 --> 00:50:03.060
  • - Emma: Now, tell us
  • 00:50:03.060 --> 00:50:03.260
  • a little bit about
  • 00:50:03.260 --> 00:50:04.180
  • the Juan and Damsy story.
  • 00:50:04.180 --> 00:50:06.140
  • - Juan Mejías: Oh, you wanna
  • 00:50:06.140 --> 00:50:07.260
  • say it?
  • 00:50:07.260 --> 00:50:08.150
  • Or you wanna my version of it?
  • 00:50:08.150 --> 00:50:10.040
  • - Damsy Mich: Okay,
  • 00:50:10.040 --> 00:50:10.220
  • we'll do my version.
  • 00:50:10.220 --> 00:50:11.180
  • - Emma: We want the truth.
  • 00:50:11.180 --> 00:50:12.100
  • - Damsy: Okay, you will get the
  • 00:50:12.100 --> 00:50:13.200
  • truth from me.
  • 00:50:13.200 --> 00:50:15.030
  • - Steve McPherson:
  • 00:50:17.180 --> 00:50:18.030
  • Do you have a trick?
  • 00:50:18.030 --> 00:50:18.220
  • Do you have a thing that you do
  • 00:50:18.220 --> 00:50:19.110
  • if you don't know the lyrics,
  • 00:50:19.110 --> 00:50:20.250
  • how you sort of cover for it?
  • 00:50:20.250 --> 00:50:21.230
  • - Annie Garratt: Like,
  • 00:50:21.230 --> 00:50:22.080
  • "Watermelon"?
  • 00:50:22.080 --> 00:50:23.030
  • - Steve McPherson:
  • 00:50:23.030 --> 00:50:23.180
  • "Watermelon"?
  • 00:50:23.180 --> 00:50:24.110
  • - Annie: Apparently, if you
  • 00:50:24.110 --> 00:50:24.280
  • say, "Watermelon," it looks,
  • 00:50:24.280 --> 00:50:25.290
  • it could look like a lot of
  • 00:50:25.290 --> 00:50:27.100
  • different things.
  • 00:50:27.100 --> 00:50:28.050
  • How do you not know that?
  • 00:50:28.050 --> 00:50:29.040
  • This guy used to run,
  • 00:50:29.040 --> 00:50:30.170
  • like, vocals.
  • 00:50:30.170 --> 00:50:31.220
  • - Steve McPherson: I just used
  • 00:50:31.220 --> 00:50:32.110
  • - Steven Furtick: And all of a
  • 00:50:34.130 --> 00:50:35.180
  • sudden, it's about midnight,
  • 00:50:35.180 --> 00:50:37.000
  • Paul's maybe about to doze
  • 00:50:37.000 --> 00:50:38.150
  • off, and he starts hearing,
  • 00:50:38.150 --> 00:50:40.270
  • "Hope is built on nothing but--"
  • 00:50:43.250 --> 00:50:46.250
  • Paul's over here,
  • 00:50:46.250 --> 00:50:47.120
  • - Brian Johnson: I remember
  • 00:50:53.240 --> 00:50:54.260
  • forever took me at least a year
  • 00:50:54.260 --> 00:50:55.260
  • to, it took, no, more than that.
  • 00:50:55.260 --> 00:50:57.060
  • 'Cause I had the melody, like--
  • 00:50:57.060 --> 00:50:58.090
  • - Jenn Johnson: In the shower,
  • 00:50:58.090 --> 00:50:59.160
  • all the time.
  • 00:50:59.160 --> 00:51:00.220
  • - Brian Johnson: It takes me
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  • And forever he is glorified
  • 00:51:08.090 --> 00:51:11.090
  • Forever he is lifted high
  • 00:51:14.180 --> 00:51:17.180
  • And forever he is risen
  • 00:51:20.080 --> 00:51:23.080
  • He is alive
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