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Colour Conference: The Green Room

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October 4, 2016
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Guest Christine Caine

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Colour Conference: The Green Room

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  • - Bobbie Houston: In a lot of
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  • ways, Colour has come of age,
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  • growing from that initial
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  • the feminine heart into a shout
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  • and declaration of his truth
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  • and justice.
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  • It has enabled thousands of
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  • women to find a new stature and
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  • the courage to be the change
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  • they want to see on the earth.
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  • In this series,
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  • we hear some of these incredible
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  • Colour Sisterhood women.
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  • And I know you'll be encouraged
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  • to stay the path God has for
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  • you.
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  • Today, you're in for a treat as
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  • we sit down with Christine Caine
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  • who shares with us the story
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  • behind founding the A-21
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  • campaign to abolish slavery in
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  • the 21st century and brings
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  • insight into the challenges we
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  • face as women in positions of
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  • influence in this day and age.
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  • Come join us.
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  • We know you will love what
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  • - Kylie Di Mauro: Hey
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  • Christine, thanks so much for
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  • joining me today.
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  • It's great to have you here.
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  • - Christine Caine: Oh,
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  • I'm loving being here.
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  • This is awesome.
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  • - Kylie: Now, you have been at
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  • Hillsong Church for 28 years,
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  • how did you first start coming?
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  • - Christine: It was awesome.
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  • You know, when I was
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  • 1 year's old, I decided to come.
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  • No, I was 22 when I first came
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  • to Hillsong.
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  • I walked into a warehouse in
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  • Sydney in Castle Hill.
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  • back then it was called the
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  • Hill's Christian Life Center.
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  • And I remember just kind of
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  • being stunned because I saw this
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  • sign as I was going down this
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  • road called Windsor Road,
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  • you know, and it had
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  • Hills Christian Life Center.
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  • And it shocked me that
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  • someone actually put
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  • Christian Life Center on a
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  • building like they were proud of
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  • being a Christian, like,
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  • it was just a real shock.
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  • So, it was intriguing to me.
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  • And I remember walking in and,
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  • you know, I came from a very,
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  • very conservative,
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  • religious background.
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  • And I had never seen anything
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  • like this, you know, lights and
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  • music that was just kind of
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  • relevant.
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  • And I remember hearing the
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  • message there and it was
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  • Donna Crouch who was the
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  • youth pastor.
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  • I didn't know then, I didn't
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  • know that women could teach.
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  • I didn't know that there was
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  • such a thing as a youth pastor,
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  • but there was this woman
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  • speaking from the Bible.
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  • And she was just speaking life,
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  • and hope, and value.
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  • And I was very broken.
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  • I had come from a background of
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  • abandonment, and abuse,
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  • and rejection, so I was really
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  • confused and really broken, a
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  • really angry young woman full of
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  • bitterness, and unforgiveness,
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  • and a lot of shame, and guilt.
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  • And here was this woman,
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  • I'm talking about this God that
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  • loved me and that had a plan
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  • and a purpose for my life.
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  • And I don't know what happened
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  • but somewhere in that
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  • 90 minutes, I have to say,
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  • I encountered the reality of
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  • a life-transforming relationship
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  • with Jesus.
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  • And 28 years later,
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  • you can't get rid of me.
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  • Here I am.
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  • - Kylie: So, what was your
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  • first experience with
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  • Sisterhood?
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  • - Christine: Well, you know,
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  • it kind of was really my
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  • relationship with Bobbie.
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  • I was working in the
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  • youth ministry and was really
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  • just committed to her and coming
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  • alongside her.
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  • And I had been involved with
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  • different women's ministry
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  • things through our denomination
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  • because I was the director of
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  • Youth alive.
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  • And then I remember Bobbie
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  • beginning to talk to me about
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  • the whole concept of, back then,
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  • wordshop for women and
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  • introducing a gathering for
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  • women that would meet regularly
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  • and gathering the girls at
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  • our church together and
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  • revamping what was traditional
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  • women's ministry.
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  • So, I feel like I was there from
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  • day one and just watching this
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  • germinate in her heart and
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  • then begin to get legs.
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  • I have to admit at first, it was
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  • my love for her, not my love
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  • for women's ministry.
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  • I was in full-time
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  • youth ministry because I was
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  • determined I never wanted to
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  • graduate to women's misery
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  • because everything, my whole
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  • concept of women's ministry was
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  • just like really ugly flowers
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  • and really depressed women that
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  • just felt sorry for themselves
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  • and never got over their issues.
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  • And I like wanted to change the
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  • world so I thought staying in
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  • youth ministry, you could change
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  • the world because no one expects
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  • you to grow up so it was
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  • fantastic.
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  • And so, I was like, I didn't
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  • really kind of get it but I
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  • loved Bobbie so I was like,
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  • you know, I'm gonna--
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  • "I'm with you.
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  • I'm gonna do whatever you
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  • want to do."
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  • But also, I knew in her write
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  • backs, and now we're talking
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  • well and truly over
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  • 20 years ago, before even
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  • Colour Conference began when we
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  • were gathering the women.
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  • There was this sense in her of
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  • wanting to reach the lost,
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  • wanting to mobilize women
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  • for mission.
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  • Now, you're talking every love
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  • language I have when you're
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  • talking about evangelism,
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  • the lost, value, dignity,
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  • humanity, justice.
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  • All of those things were there
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  • in seed form in Bobbie's heart
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  • before we even had a
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  • Colour Conference,
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  • before we had a Sisterhood,
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  • before we had a Fight Club,
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  • before we had all of those
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  • things that we now know as
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  • this global Sisterhood that
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  • she talks about in her book
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  • beautifully.
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  • And I think that's why it's
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  • important that we go back to the
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  • book because there is a story
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  • behind what people see now.
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  • You see the grandeur of
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  • what the Lord's doing now
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  • and this movement,
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  • gaining momentum across every
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  • continent on the globe.
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  • But I remember it way back when
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  • it was in seed form in Bobbie's
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  • heart, and we didn't even have
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  • language to put around it.
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  • And I think the Sisterhood
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  • journey, the book,
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  • helps to give it language,
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  • helps to give it context.
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  • It shows a 20-year history
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  • and before that of how
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  • this happened.
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  • And it can fast track people
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  • getting on the page.
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  • So, a lot of people like me,
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  • that seriously think,
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  • "You know what?
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  • Let's skip the chick thing.
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  • Let's skip the Sisterhood thing.
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  • You know, I like guys."
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  • We like guys too.
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  • "And I am not, you know, nothing
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  • is more daunting to me than the
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  • thought of a whole bunch of
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  • women gathered together.
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  • I mean really, that's just too
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  • much estrogen in any one place."
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  • Well, I thank God that we
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  • dispelled that myth because
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  • Sisterhood is for every kind of
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  • woman, and I think it helps to
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  • define femininity in a very
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  • healthy way.
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  • So, chicks like me that are a
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  • little bit kind of more gung ho.
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  • "Let's go change the world."
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  • Chicks like you.
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  • You know, we've been friends for
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  • over 25 years, and you're always
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  • more girly-girl than me.
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  • You know, you taught me to
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  • wear nail polish and makeup that
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  • I have to do for this filming.
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  • But you just liked it anyway.
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  • So, every chick in between,
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  • I think the thing that unites us
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  • is, obviously, a heart after
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  • Jesus and a passion for his
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  • cause.
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  • And so for me,
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  • what Sisterhood did,
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  • and has done,
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  • and continues to do,
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  • is actually helped me to find my
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  • identity in Christ,
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  • not in a skirt, or a dress, or
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  • makeup, although I've, you know,
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  • it's helped with all of that as
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  • well as you are very happy
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  • to know.
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  • But what it has done is it
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  • solidified who I am in Christ
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  • feeling very comfortable with
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  • by God and filled with God-given
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  • passion, purpose, potential, and
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  • destiny, and that God didn't
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  • make a mistake when we made me.
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  • And just because I'm not wired
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  • up like every other girl,
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  • that really doesn't matter.
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  • And that's the beauty of
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  • Sisterhood is that we're not
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  • trying to put anyone in any box.
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  • We're not trying to make any
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  • woman conform to any cultural
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  • stereotype of what a woman
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  • should be but we're saying,"Why
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  • don't you discover who you are
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  • in Christ and then let's unleash
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  • that potential on the inside of
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  • you and then launch you to
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  • fulfill purpose?"
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  • It's awesome.
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  • - Kylie: Yeah, that's amazing.
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  • I have loved watching your
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  • journey of just embracing that
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  • whole side of you and seeing
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  • what God's done in your life.
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  • So then, once Sisterhood
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  • morphed into a conference,
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  • how did you find that?
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  • - Christine: You know, I loved
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  • it because I really feel that
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  • there's a place to gather,
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  • to mobilize, to equip, and then
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  • to scatter the women into
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  • the world.
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  • There's something that God does
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  • that is very unique and distinct
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  • when he gathers his girls
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  • together in one place.
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  • It's kind of like I think it's
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  • the fact that you've gone to
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  • so much trouble to rearrange.
  • 00:07:33.280 --> 00:07:35.220
  • You know, most women are very,
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  • very busy, whether they're
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  • single, or whether they're
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  • married, or whether they
  • 00:07:39.030 --> 00:07:39.250
  • have children, or don't have
  • 00:07:39.250 --> 00:07:40.190
  • children, life is just crazy
  • 00:07:40.190 --> 00:07:42.160
  • nowadays.
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  • So, the very fact that you have
  • 00:07:43.030 --> 00:07:44.090
  • to go to so much effort to
  • 00:07:44.090 --> 00:07:46.260
  • rearrange your life, to
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  • physically take a couple of days
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  • off, and to position yourself in
  • 00:07:49.150 --> 00:07:52.090
  • an atmosphere where God can
  • 00:07:52.090 --> 00:07:53.200
  • speak to you, more so because
  • 00:07:53.200 --> 00:07:54.290
  • you've silenced the voice of
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  • everything else because you just
  • 00:07:55.270 --> 00:07:57.060
  • go look, if you're married and
  • 00:07:57.060 --> 00:07:58.160
  • you got kids, you know, they'll
  • 00:07:58.160 --> 00:07:59.190
  • survive on pizza six meals
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  • a day for three days.
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  • It's okay.
  • 00:08:02.140 --> 00:08:03.270
  • The washing won't get down and
  • 00:08:03.270 --> 00:08:05.160
  • dear Lord, you know, the
  • 00:08:05.160 --> 00:08:06.170
  • condition of the house will be
  • 00:08:06.170 --> 00:08:07.120
  • crazy when you get home.
  • 00:08:07.120 --> 00:08:08.110
  • But the very fact that you've
  • 00:08:08.110 --> 00:08:09.220
  • rearranged everything and said,
  • 00:08:09.220 --> 00:08:11.000
  • "You know what, God?
  • 00:08:11.000 --> 00:08:11.180
  • I'm giving you this time more
  • 00:08:11.180 --> 00:08:12.220
  • than anything," I think you
  • 00:08:12.220 --> 00:08:14.140
  • get a sense of encouragement,
  • 00:08:14.140 --> 00:08:15.190
  • "I'm not alone."
  • 00:08:15.190 --> 00:08:16.140
  • Because most of us, you're just
  • 00:08:16.140 --> 00:08:17.180
  • fighting life.
  • 00:08:17.180 --> 00:08:18.100
  • Life is just life.
  • 00:08:18.100 --> 00:08:19.070
  • There's disappointment, there's
  • 00:08:19.070 --> 00:08:20.090
  • trials, there's betrayals,
  • 00:08:20.090 --> 00:08:21.200
  • there's unexpected things happen
  • 00:08:21.200 --> 00:08:23.290
  • and just in the midst of it, you
  • 00:08:23.290 --> 00:08:25.090
  • can lose sight of the fact that
  • 00:08:25.090 --> 00:08:27.120
  • God's got a plan for you.
  • 00:08:27.120 --> 00:08:28.060
  • You're just trying to get
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  • through the day.
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  • And especially, you know,
  • 00:08:29.220 --> 00:08:30.120
  • if you're a new mum.
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  • If you can just kind of get a
  • 00:08:31.050 --> 00:08:32.080
  • shower maybe once every 3 days,
  • 00:08:32.080 --> 00:08:33.290
  • you've done well.
  • 00:08:33.290 --> 00:08:34.170
  • So, you're just kind of trying
  • 00:08:34.170 --> 00:08:36.070
  • to get through the day.
  • 00:08:36.070 --> 00:08:38.010
  • So, I think to get in and
  • 00:08:38.010 --> 00:08:39.020
  • suddenly you go, "Hang on a
  • 00:08:39.020 --> 00:08:40.020
  • minute, there is a plan."
  • 00:08:40.020 --> 00:08:41.200
  • And there's a whole lot of women
  • 00:08:41.200 --> 00:08:42.150
  • going through, you know, maybe
  • 00:08:42.150 --> 00:08:44.150
  • worse things than I'm going
  • 00:08:44.150 --> 00:08:45.080
  • through.
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  • Maybe I can encourage someone
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  • else.
  • 00:08:47.270 --> 00:08:48.120
  • And you're sitting under
  • 00:08:48.120 --> 00:08:49.160
  • the Word and you're sitting in
  • 00:08:49.160 --> 00:08:50.260
  • the midst of worship, the two
  • 00:08:50.260 --> 00:08:51.240
  • dynamics that I think have got
  • 00:08:51.240 --> 00:08:53.220
  • the capacity to transform your
  • 00:08:53.220 --> 00:08:54.260
  • life and that can do in you in a
  • 00:08:54.260 --> 00:08:57.150
  • moment what maybe 6 months of
  • 00:08:57.150 --> 00:08:59.060
  • therapy can't do is just sitting
  • 00:08:59.060 --> 00:09:00.220
  • in the presence of God allowing
  • 00:09:00.220 --> 00:09:01.200
  • God to touch you, to make him
  • 00:09:01.200 --> 00:09:04.140
  • bigger than your circumstances,
  • 00:09:04.140 --> 00:09:05.140
  • which is what we do when you
  • 00:09:05.140 --> 00:09:06.090
  • worship.
  • 00:09:06.090 --> 00:09:06.280
  • You know, you come in with your
  • 00:09:06.280 --> 00:09:08.020
  • challenges.
  • 00:09:08.020 --> 00:09:08.180
  • If you're single sometimes,
  • 00:09:08.180 --> 00:09:09.220
  • just the stuff that goes on.
  • 00:09:09.220 --> 00:09:11.030
  • If you're married, if you got
  • 00:09:11.030 --> 00:09:12.020
  • kids, just the trials that
  • 00:09:12.020 --> 00:09:13.080
  • you've got.
  • 00:09:13.080 --> 00:09:13.250
  • You start to make God bigger
  • 00:09:13.250 --> 00:09:15.080
  • than all of that.
  • 00:09:15.080 --> 00:09:15.270
  • So, you've got this
  • 00:09:15.270 --> 00:09:16.250
  • uninterrupted 2 1/2 days where
  • 00:09:16.250 --> 00:09:19.120
  • you're making God bigger than
  • 00:09:19.120 --> 00:09:20.070
  • your circumstances.
  • 00:09:20.070 --> 00:09:22.090
  • And then you're listening to
  • 00:09:22.090 --> 00:09:23.090
  • the Word.
  • 00:09:23.090 --> 00:09:23.250
  • The Word has the power to
  • 00:09:23.250 --> 00:09:25.010
  • transform lives so there's power
  • 00:09:25.010 --> 00:09:27.210
  • in that coming from lots of
  • 00:09:27.210 --> 00:09:29.010
  • different types of teachers.
  • 00:09:29.010 --> 00:09:29.250
  • So, you know, if you're not
  • 00:09:29.250 --> 00:09:30.280
  • gonna get it from one, you're
  • 00:09:30.280 --> 00:09:31.210
  • gonna get it from another one,
  • 00:09:31.210 --> 00:09:32.210
  • which I think is fantastic.
  • 00:09:32.210 --> 00:09:33.190
  • I love the breadth and the
  • 00:09:33.190 --> 00:09:34.250
  • diversity of how the Word
  • 00:09:34.250 --> 00:09:36.250
  • goes forth.
  • 00:09:36.250 --> 00:09:37.190
  • And then, of course,
  • 00:09:37.190 --> 00:09:38.110
  • there's just the nonsense,
  • 00:09:38.110 --> 00:09:39.120
  • which I think is so good.
  • 00:09:39.120 --> 00:09:40.130
  • The hilarity.
  • 00:09:40.130 --> 00:09:41.110
  • Laughter does good like a
  • 00:09:41.110 --> 00:09:42.180
  • medicine and I think the light
  • 00:09:42.180 --> 00:09:45.080
  • and shade that we have,
  • 00:09:45.080 --> 00:09:46.240
  • we can go so deep theologically,
  • 00:09:46.240 --> 00:09:49.170
  • so deep with the Holy Spirit
  • 00:09:49.170 --> 00:09:51.170
  • bringing transformation,
  • 00:09:51.170 --> 00:09:52.200
  • and then just the most crazy,
  • 00:09:52.200 --> 00:09:53.270
  • random laughter where, honestly,
  • 00:09:53.270 --> 00:09:55.230
  • I think more people find healing
  • 00:09:55.230 --> 00:09:57.030
  • through the nonsense as much as
  • 00:09:57.030 --> 00:09:58.090
  • anything else.
  • 00:09:58.090 --> 00:09:59.160
  • And then you're called as part
  • 00:09:59.160 --> 00:10:01.170
  • of a global sisterhood to look
  • 00:10:01.170 --> 00:10:03.290
  • at the big issues,
  • 00:10:03.290 --> 00:10:04.260
  • the big issues
  • 00:10:04.260 --> 00:10:05.220
  • that often we will flick through
  • 00:10:05.220 --> 00:10:06.210
  • on TV and we will fast forward
  • 00:10:06.210 --> 00:10:09.120
  • or will change the channel, not
  • 00:10:09.120 --> 00:10:10.230
  • because we're not interested,
  • 00:10:10.230 --> 00:10:12.160
  • but because we don't feel
  • 00:10:12.160 --> 00:10:13.160
  • empowered to make a difference.
  • 00:10:13.160 --> 00:10:14.200
  • And I think that sense of
  • 00:10:14.200 --> 00:10:16.070
  • helplessness is, you know, you
  • 00:10:16.070 --> 00:10:17.260
  • see the large, you know,
  • 00:10:17.260 --> 00:10:19.200
  • refugee crisis, or maybe the
  • 00:10:19.200 --> 00:10:22.060
  • poverty levels, or people that
  • 00:10:22.060 --> 00:10:23.200
  • don't have access to water,
  • 00:10:23.200 --> 00:10:25.010
  • or just the rape,
  • 00:10:25.010 --> 00:10:26.030
  • and the murder,
  • 00:10:26.030 --> 00:10:26.180
  • and the crime.
  • 00:10:26.180 --> 00:10:27.040
  • And you think, "What can I do?"
  • 00:10:27.040 --> 00:10:28.240
  • So, you just kind of flick
  • 00:10:28.240 --> 00:10:30.230
  • to the next channel
  • 00:10:30.230 --> 00:10:31.270
  • because you're thinking,
  • 00:10:31.270 --> 00:10:32.120
  • "I can't make a difference."
  • 00:10:32.120 --> 00:10:33.160
  • But then you're part of this
  • 00:10:33.160 --> 00:10:35.040
  • global sisterhood and suddenly,
  • 00:10:35.040 --> 00:10:37.100
  • your little contribution
  • 00:10:37.100 --> 00:10:39.120
  • combined with everybody else's
  • 00:10:39.120 --> 00:10:40.110
  • contribution can make a huge
  • 00:10:40.110 --> 00:10:42.010
  • difference on the planet and
  • 00:10:42.010 --> 00:10:43.110
  • I think girls like that.
  • 00:10:43.110 --> 00:10:45.030
  • We like to do things together.
  • 00:10:45.030 --> 00:10:46.100
  • We like to be part of community.
  • 00:10:46.100 --> 00:10:48.040
  • We love to be part of authentic
  • 00:10:48.040 --> 00:10:49.120
  • relationship.
  • 00:10:49.120 --> 00:10:50.150
  • We love true intimacy and true
  • 00:10:50.150 --> 00:10:52.000
  • connection, and I think that's a
  • 00:10:52.000 --> 00:10:54.020
  • beautiful thing our gender
  • 00:10:54.020 --> 00:10:54.250
  • brings to the table.
  • 00:10:54.250 --> 00:10:56.040
  • And so, when you come to a
  • 00:10:56.040 --> 00:10:57.260
  • Colour Conference, all of that
  • 00:10:57.260 --> 00:10:59.030
  • happens.
  • 00:10:59.030 --> 00:10:59.180
  • Your individual soul is
  • 00:10:59.180 --> 00:11:00.220
  • ministered to but then you're
  • 00:11:00.220 --> 00:11:02.130
  • also part of a global collective
  • 00:11:02.130 --> 00:11:04.020
  • that together can combine to
  • 00:11:04.020 --> 00:11:05.290
  • make a difference for good, be a
  • 00:11:05.290 --> 00:11:07.180
  • force for good on the earth.
  • 00:11:07.180 --> 00:11:08.260
  • And I think there's something
  • 00:11:08.260 --> 00:11:09.250
  • about that.
  • 00:11:09.250 --> 00:11:10.160
  • I think there's something
  • 00:11:10.160 --> 00:11:11.180
  • about being part of that
  • 00:11:11.180 --> 00:11:13.160
  • momentum where you know,
  • 00:11:13.160 --> 00:11:14.270
  • "My life is counting."
  • 00:11:14.270 --> 00:11:15.220
  • And then on your worst days,
  • 00:11:15.220 --> 00:11:17.240
  • the other 365 days in the year,
  • 00:11:17.240 --> 00:11:20.210
  • you still can feel like,
  • 00:11:20.210 --> 00:11:21.160
  • "I'm doing something to
  • 00:11:21.160 --> 00:11:23.120
  • contribute to the global good.
  • 00:11:23.120 --> 00:11:24.290
  • I'm part of God's bigger plan
  • 00:11:24.290 --> 00:11:26.130
  • and purpose, and I've got
  • 00:11:26.130 --> 00:11:27.270
  • sisters around me that are going
  • 00:11:27.270 --> 00:11:30.030
  • through stuff as well."
  • 00:11:30.030 --> 00:11:31.120
  • So, I think the community, the
  • 00:11:31.120 --> 00:11:32.090
  • fellowship, the relationship,
  • 00:11:32.090 --> 00:11:34.040
  • the mobilization,
  • 00:11:34.040 --> 00:11:35.060
  • the activation, the personal
  • 00:11:35.060 --> 00:11:38.060
  • ministry, you can't go beyond
  • 00:11:38.060 --> 00:11:39.090
  • it.
  • 00:11:39.090 --> 00:11:39.240
  • It is--you know, I've had the
  • 00:11:39.240 --> 00:11:42.100
  • privilege in the last 2 decades
  • 00:11:42.100 --> 00:11:44.110
  • plus to pretty much, I think, be
  • 00:11:44.110 --> 00:11:46.150
  • part of most women's gatherings
  • 00:11:46.150 --> 00:11:47.200
  • all around the world,
  • 00:11:47.200 --> 00:11:48.070
  • Christian women's gatherings all
  • 00:11:48.070 --> 00:11:49.030
  • around the world and still to
  • 00:11:49.030 --> 00:11:50.200
  • this day, I can wholeheartedly
  • 00:11:50.200 --> 00:11:52.160
  • and authentically say,
  • 00:11:52.160 --> 00:11:53.140
  • there is nothing like the
  • 00:11:53.140 --> 00:11:54.160
  • Colour Conference on the earth.
  • 00:11:54.160 --> 00:11:55.220
  • - Christine: It was like,
  • 00:12:01.020 --> 00:12:01.180
  • you gotta be kidding me.
  • 00:12:01.180 --> 00:12:02.150
  • There are slaves today?
  • 00:12:02.150 --> 00:12:03.150
  • You've gotta be kidding me that
  • 00:12:03.150 --> 00:12:04.190
  • people are being trafficked
  • 00:12:04.190 --> 00:12:05.070
  • today.
  • 00:12:05.070 --> 00:12:05.230
  • I don't think we actually had
  • 00:12:05.230 --> 00:12:06.270
  • any real understanding until
  • 00:12:06.270 --> 00:12:07.260
  • I wasn't to Greece to speak at
  • 00:12:07.260 --> 00:12:09.060
  • - Kylie: So you, as you've
  • 00:12:16.100 --> 00:12:16.270
  • said, you've been to many
  • 00:12:16.270 --> 00:12:18.020
  • different women's ministry from
  • 00:12:18.020 --> 00:12:20.130
  • Sisterhood having that message,
  • 00:12:20.130 --> 00:12:22.100
  • but also you've taken the
  • 00:12:22.100 --> 00:12:23.100
  • message of being able to make a
  • 00:12:23.100 --> 00:12:24.290
  • difference in your community and
  • 00:12:24.290 --> 00:12:27.190
  • you started A-21.
  • 00:12:27.190 --> 00:12:28.290
  • - Christine: Definitely.
  • 00:12:28.290 --> 00:12:29.150
  • - Kylie: So, how did that all
  • 00:12:29.150 --> 00:12:30.030
  • come about?
  • 00:12:30.030 --> 00:12:30.180
  • - Christine: Well, it came out,
  • 00:12:30.180 --> 00:12:31.080
  • you know, a lot of my work
  • 00:12:31.080 --> 00:12:32.210
  • alongside our church, you know,
  • 00:12:32.210 --> 00:12:34.010
  • on part of us but has been
  • 00:12:34.010 --> 00:12:36.010
  • broadly to take the Sisterhood
  • 00:12:36.010 --> 00:12:37.020
  • message to the globe.
  • 00:12:37.020 --> 00:12:38.070
  • And that's really what I've been
  • 00:12:38.070 --> 00:12:39.000
  • I have been taking a local
  • 00:12:41.250 --> 00:12:43.130
  • mandate globally.
  • 00:12:43.130 --> 00:12:44.140
  • I've seen Sisterhood birth
  • 00:12:44.250 --> 00:12:47.250
  • Sisterhoods all around
  • 00:12:47.250 --> 00:12:48.150
  • the world.
  • 00:12:48.150 --> 00:12:49.000
  • I mean, I don't think this side
  • 00:12:49.000 --> 00:12:49.270
  • of eternity we're gonna see
  • 00:12:49.270 --> 00:12:50.280
  • the value of what our
  • 00:12:50.280 --> 00:12:52.070
  • Colour Sisterhood has done
  • 00:12:52.070 --> 00:12:53.280
  • because there are numerous,
  • 00:12:53.280 --> 00:12:55.180
  • too many to count,
  • 00:12:55.180 --> 00:12:57.080
  • local churches have that started
  • 00:12:57.080 --> 00:12:58.240
  • their own conferences and
  • 00:12:58.240 --> 00:12:59.280
  • have been totally inspired
  • 00:12:59.280 --> 00:13:01.240
  • by Pastor Bobbie and
  • 00:13:01.240 --> 00:13:03.030
  • the Colour Sisterhood.
  • 00:13:03.030 --> 00:13:04.080
  • And they're mobilizing their own
  • 00:13:04.080 --> 00:13:06.050
  • girls, and equipping their own
  • 00:13:06.050 --> 00:13:07.100
  • girls, and have started
  • 00:13:07.100 --> 00:13:08.040
  • Sisterhoods all over the earth.
  • 00:13:08.040 --> 00:13:09.190
  • I love that because that's part
  • 00:13:09.190 --> 00:13:10.170
  • of our mandate.
  • 00:13:10.170 --> 00:13:11.110
  • Part of our mandate is to
  • 00:13:11.110 --> 00:13:12.070
  • activate things in local
  • 00:13:12.070 --> 00:13:13.270
  • communities all over the earth,
  • 00:13:13.270 --> 00:13:15.100
  • and I think that we will forever
  • 00:13:15.100 --> 00:13:16.100
  • do that.
  • 00:13:16.100 --> 00:13:16.260
  • It's part of what we do.
  • 00:13:16.260 --> 00:13:18.160
  • Part of our mandate as a church
  • 00:13:18.160 --> 00:13:19.170
  • has always been to build the
  • 00:13:19.170 --> 00:13:20.210
  • local church globally and so,
  • 00:13:20.210 --> 00:13:22.090
  • we are very committed to
  • 00:13:22.090 --> 00:13:23.150
  • championing local Sisterhoods
  • 00:13:23.150 --> 00:13:25.220
  • all over the globe.
  • 00:13:25.220 --> 00:13:26.250
  • So, I've been really busy the
  • 00:13:26.250 --> 00:13:28.080
  • last couple of decades doing
  • 00:13:28.080 --> 00:13:29.240
  • that all over the world across
  • 00:13:29.240 --> 00:13:31.160
  • every stream of the church and
  • 00:13:31.160 --> 00:13:33.110
  • watching just Sisterhoods come
  • 00:13:33.110 --> 00:13:35.200
  • alive.
  • 00:13:35.200 --> 00:13:36.050
  • Now, out of that, probably about
  • 00:13:36.050 --> 00:13:38.180
  • 10 years ago, so, about the
  • 00:13:38.180 --> 00:13:39.270
  • halfway mark of Colour as we
  • 00:13:39.270 --> 00:13:42.210
  • know it today, Bobbie and I,
  • 00:13:42.210 --> 00:13:45.100
  • we've always talked justice,
  • 00:13:45.100 --> 00:13:46.220
  • always been very, very
  • 00:13:46.220 --> 00:13:48.070
  • passionate about justice.
  • 00:13:48.070 --> 00:13:50.030
  • And back then, I was based here
  • 00:13:50.030 --> 00:13:51.120
  • in Sydney so I had a lot more
  • 00:13:51.120 --> 00:13:52.100
  • personal time with her.
  • 00:13:52.100 --> 00:13:53.100
  • You know, we would spend hours
  • 00:13:53.100 --> 00:13:54.240
  • and hours talking all the time,
  • 00:13:54.240 --> 00:13:56.190
  • and we both simultaneously
  • 00:13:56.190 --> 00:13:59.140
  • had this awakening to this
  • 00:13:59.250 --> 00:14:02.270
  • tragedy and just horror of
  • 00:14:02.270 --> 00:14:04.270
  • human trafficking.
  • 00:14:04.270 --> 00:14:05.220
  • We didn't--had very little
  • 00:14:05.220 --> 00:14:06.200
  • understanding but it was like,
  • 00:14:06.200 --> 00:14:08.020
  • you've gotta be kidding me.
  • 00:14:08.020 --> 00:14:08.190
  • There are slaves today?
  • 00:14:08.190 --> 00:14:09.290
  • You gotta be kidding me that
  • 00:14:09.290 --> 00:14:11.000
  • people are being trafficked
  • 00:14:11.000 --> 00:14:11.200
  • today.
  • 00:14:11.200 --> 00:14:12.050
  • I remember numerous
  • 00:14:12.050 --> 00:14:13.280
  • conversations with her, and I
  • 00:14:13.280 --> 00:14:15.130
  • don't think we actually had any
  • 00:14:15.130 --> 00:14:16.160
  • real understanding until I went
  • 00:14:16.160 --> 00:14:17.230
  • to Greece to speak at a women's
  • 00:14:17.230 --> 00:14:18.280
  • conference, and then I saw all
  • 00:14:18.280 --> 00:14:20.230
  • of these posters of young women
  • 00:14:20.230 --> 00:14:23.050
  • and children that had been
  • 00:14:23.050 --> 00:14:24.000
  • taken.
  • 00:14:24.000 --> 00:14:25.070
  • And it was stunning to me.
  • 00:14:25.070 --> 00:14:27.150
  • That was when I really, really
  • 00:14:27.150 --> 00:14:28.270
  • got awakened.
  • 00:14:28.270 --> 00:14:29.120
  • It became--it went from a
  • 00:14:29.120 --> 00:14:30.200
  • concept of there's slaves on
  • 00:14:30.200 --> 00:14:31.270
  • the earth to "Oh, my word,
  • 00:14:31.270 --> 00:14:33.260
  • these are children."
  • 00:14:33.260 --> 00:14:34.130
  • I had just had my second baby.
  • 00:14:34.130 --> 00:14:35.290
  • I was 40 years old and, you
  • 00:14:35.290 --> 00:14:37.170
  • know, when you just have a baby,
  • 00:14:37.170 --> 00:14:40.000
  • your hormones are going crazy
  • 00:14:40.000 --> 00:14:40.270
  • anyway.
  • 00:14:40.270 --> 00:14:41.130
  • So, you're hypersensitive and
  • 00:14:41.130 --> 00:14:42.250
  • you're very tender to anything
  • 00:14:42.250 --> 00:14:44.190
  • to do with children, anything to
  • 00:14:44.190 --> 00:14:46.010
  • do with victimization of
  • 00:14:46.010 --> 00:14:47.010
  • children, or the abuse of
  • 00:14:47.010 --> 00:14:48.170
  • children.
  • 00:14:48.170 --> 00:14:49.020
  • So, I was on hyper-alert.
  • 00:14:49.020 --> 00:14:50.270
  • I was 40.
  • 00:14:50.270 --> 00:14:51.220
  • My hormones were out of whack.
  • 00:14:51.220 --> 00:14:52.180
  • If you pop out a kid at 40,
  • 00:14:52.180 --> 00:14:53.160
  • you're like ready for a holiday,
  • 00:14:53.160 --> 00:14:54.190
  • you know?
  • 00:14:54.190 --> 00:14:55.040
  • You just like deserve
  • 00:14:55.040 --> 00:14:55.270
  • a purple heart.
  • 00:14:55.270 --> 00:14:56.220
  • But anyway, in the midst of all
  • 00:14:56.220 --> 00:14:58.010
  • of this, I'm kind of sitting
  • 00:14:58.010 --> 00:14:59.270
  • there.
  • 00:14:59.270 --> 00:15:00.230
  • I'm looking at all of these
  • 00:15:00.230 --> 00:15:01.110
  • posters of these kids.
  • 00:15:01.110 --> 00:15:02.150
  • I called our friend Chanel,
  • 00:15:02.150 --> 00:15:04.140
  • who's a great friend of the
  • 00:15:04.140 --> 00:15:06.180
  • Colour Sisterhood who works in
  • 00:15:06.220 --> 00:15:09.220
  • the NGO sector very actively
  • 00:15:09.220 --> 00:15:11.280
  • involved on a global scale
  • 00:15:11.280 --> 00:15:12.280
  • against injustice and I said
  • 00:15:12.280 --> 00:15:14.240
  • to her, "What is this?"
  • 00:15:14.240 --> 00:15:16.050
  • And she is the one that really
  • 00:15:16.050 --> 00:15:17.050
  • began to tell me of the reality
  • 00:15:17.150 --> 00:15:20.150
  • of human trafficking on
  • 00:15:20.150 --> 00:15:21.200
  • the earth today and slavery.
  • 00:15:21.200 --> 00:15:23.050
  • And began to tell me, "You know,
  • 00:15:23.050 --> 00:15:24.020
  • there are over 30 million slaves
  • 00:15:24.020 --> 00:15:25.060
  • in the world today,
  • 00:15:25.060 --> 00:15:26.050
  • more than ever before in
  • 00:15:26.050 --> 00:15:27.240
  • the history of human kind,"
  • 00:15:27.240 --> 00:15:29.290
  • to which I was startled.
  • 00:15:29.290 --> 00:15:30.290
  • I'm thinking, we have churches
  • 00:15:30.290 --> 00:15:32.250
  • all over the world.
  • 00:15:32.250 --> 00:15:33.150
  • We have worship music all over
  • 00:15:33.150 --> 00:15:34.080
  • the world.
  • 00:15:34.080 --> 00:15:34.230
  • We have conferences all over
  • 00:15:34.230 --> 00:15:36.000
  • the world.
  • 00:15:36.000 --> 00:15:37.200
  • We have more access to teaching
  • 00:15:37.200 --> 00:15:38.250
  • now than we've ever had and you
  • 00:15:38.250 --> 00:15:40.190
  • want to tell me the legacy of
  • 00:15:40.190 --> 00:15:41.180
  • the church in our lifetime is
  • 00:15:41.180 --> 00:15:43.070
  • that there are more slaves on
  • 00:15:43.070 --> 00:15:44.020
  • the earth?
  • 00:15:44.020 --> 00:15:44.240
  • That's just not okay with me.
  • 00:15:44.240 --> 00:15:46.010
  • Like, that is just not okay.
  • 00:15:46.010 --> 00:15:47.070
  • We're not doing our job.
  • 00:15:47.070 --> 00:15:48.060
  • If that's the case, if we are
  • 00:15:48.060 --> 00:15:49.090
  • called to be light in the midst
  • 00:15:49.090 --> 00:15:50.270
  • of darkness, salt in the midst
  • 00:15:50.270 --> 00:15:52.120
  • of a dying world, then if what
  • 00:15:52.120 --> 00:15:55.100
  • we do in here does not translate
  • 00:15:55.100 --> 00:15:57.000
  • to making a physical difference
  • 00:15:57.000 --> 00:15:58.080
  • in a real world, then honestly,
  • 00:15:58.080 --> 00:16:00.070
  • we're kidding ourselves.
  • 00:16:00.070 --> 00:16:01.160
  • And that's always been our
  • 00:16:01.160 --> 00:16:02.120
  • heartbeat.
  • 00:16:02.120 --> 00:16:02.280
  • We've always wanted what we do
  • 00:16:02.280 --> 00:16:04.250
  • inside an arena to actually
  • 00:16:04.250 --> 00:16:07.080
  • impact the world outside.
  • 00:16:07.080 --> 00:16:08.230
  • And so, there began really
  • 00:16:08.250 --> 00:16:11.250
  • in embryonic form
  • 00:16:11.250 --> 00:16:13.200
  • the A-21 campaign.
  • 00:16:13.200 --> 00:16:14.180
  • I came back passionate as ever.
  • 00:16:14.180 --> 00:16:17.150
  • You know, poor Bobbie, I mean
  • 00:16:17.150 --> 00:16:18.200
  • she's had to endure a lot with
  • 00:16:18.200 --> 00:16:19.160
  • me over the last couple of
  • 00:16:19.160 --> 00:16:20.180
  • decades 'cause I'm like Greek
  • 00:16:20.180 --> 00:16:21.220
  • and passionate, and she's
  • 00:16:21.220 --> 00:16:22.270
  • beautiful, and calm, and Tongan,
  • 00:16:22.270 --> 00:16:24.040
  • and just like lovely,
  • 00:16:24.040 --> 00:16:25.050
  • New Zealander.
  • 00:16:25.050 --> 00:16:25.210
  • And then she gets me, you know,
  • 00:16:25.210 --> 00:16:27.010
  • welcome.
  • 00:16:27.010 --> 00:16:27.260
  • I'm her reward for her
  • 00:16:27.290 --> 00:16:30.290
  • Christian commitment.
  • 00:16:30.290 --> 00:16:31.240
  • But anyway, so in that, I come
  • 00:16:31.240 --> 00:16:33.080
  • back and I don't stop talking
  • 00:16:33.080 --> 00:16:34.240
  • about this.
  • 00:16:34.240 --> 00:16:35.090
  • Like, I mean I don't stop
  • 00:16:35.090 --> 00:16:36.130
  • talking.
  • 00:16:36.130 --> 00:16:36.280
  • And she's like, "Okay, go out
  • 00:16:36.280 --> 00:16:38.200
  • and see what we can do as
  • 00:16:38.200 --> 00:16:40.010
  • a sisterhood."
  • 00:16:40.010 --> 00:16:40.180
  • That's really how it all began.
  • 00:16:40.180 --> 00:16:41.170
  • She was like, "You know, go out
  • 00:16:41.170 --> 00:16:42.190
  • and see what we can do."
  • 00:16:42.190 --> 00:16:43.230
  • So, we went out on a feasibility
  • 00:16:43.230 --> 00:16:45.220
  • study around the world,
  • 00:16:45.220 --> 00:16:46.160
  • checked out a whole lot of
  • 00:16:46.160 --> 00:16:47.180
  • organizations, great people
  • 00:16:47.180 --> 00:16:48.250
  • doing great work, but we weren't
  • 00:16:48.250 --> 00:16:51.050
  • able to land on something that
  • 00:16:51.050 --> 00:16:52.290
  • kind of for us, a local church
  • 00:16:52.290 --> 00:16:54.240
  • is a very big piece of the
  • 00:16:54.240 --> 00:16:55.230
  • puzzle always.
  • 00:16:55.230 --> 00:16:57.020
  • And so, we wanted to be
  • 00:16:57.020 --> 00:16:59.270
  • something that loves church,
  • 00:16:59.270 --> 00:17:01.220
  • that works together with the
  • 00:17:01.220 --> 00:17:02.150
  • local church, and that champions
  • 00:17:02.150 --> 00:17:04.290
  • the message of local church but
  • 00:17:04.290 --> 00:17:07.070
  • also makes a massive difference
  • 00:17:07.070 --> 00:17:08.270
  • in communities.
  • 00:17:08.270 --> 00:17:10.030
  • So, as we went around,
  • 00:17:10.030 --> 00:17:11.250
  • it started to become more
  • 00:17:11.250 --> 00:17:12.260
  • and more obvious that
  • 00:17:12.260 --> 00:17:15.210
  • the Holy Spirit was really
  • 00:17:15.210 --> 00:17:16.270
  • asking us to do something.
  • 00:17:16.270 --> 00:17:18.200
  • And so, Bobbie and I, again,
  • 00:17:18.200 --> 00:17:20.090
  • extensively lots and lots
  • 00:17:20.090 --> 00:17:21.170
  • of conversations about,
  • 00:17:21.170 --> 00:17:22.230
  • how are we gonna do this?
  • 00:17:22.230 --> 00:17:23.240
  • And it was like, you know,
  • 00:17:23.240 --> 00:17:24.180
  • you gotta come up with a name.
  • 00:17:24.180 --> 00:17:25.260
  • And I wish I could say, Kylie,
  • 00:17:25.260 --> 00:17:27.130
  • it was something really
  • 00:17:27.130 --> 00:17:28.020
  • spiritual and that I had fasted
  • 00:17:28.020 --> 00:17:29.150
  • and prayed.
  • 00:17:29.150 --> 00:17:30.180
  • But it was like one of my team
  • 00:17:30.190 --> 00:17:33.190
  • was in a word document going,
  • 00:17:33.190 --> 00:17:36.140
  • "We have got to put something on
  • 00:17:36.140 --> 00:17:37.240
  • letterhead because Colour's
  • 00:17:37.240 --> 00:17:38.260
  • coming up and we've gotta make
  • 00:17:38.260 --> 00:17:40.060
  • this video and we've gotta call
  • 00:17:40.060 --> 00:17:41.130
  • it something."
  • 00:17:41.130 --> 00:17:42.000
  • And she goes,
  • 00:17:42.000 --> 00:17:42.220
  • "What do you want it to be?"
  • 00:17:42.220 --> 00:17:43.120
  • And I just in this moment
  • 00:17:43.120 --> 00:17:44.060
  • I went, I don't know.
  • 00:17:44.060 --> 00:17:44.290
  • We've gotta abolish injustice in
  • 00:17:44.290 --> 00:17:46.090
  • the 21st century.
  • 00:17:46.090 --> 00:17:47.090
  • And then out of that it was
  • 00:17:47.090 --> 00:17:48.060
  • like, abolish, A, injustice in
  • 00:17:48.060 --> 00:17:50.250
  • the 21st century, 21.
  • 00:17:50.250 --> 00:17:52.020
  • Boom, okay, that's it.
  • 00:17:52.020 --> 00:17:52.210
  • That'll do.
  • 00:17:52.210 --> 00:17:53.140
  • And so, in a word document,
  • 00:17:53.140 --> 00:17:56.020
  • someone that had never been to
  • 00:17:56.020 --> 00:17:56.290
  • any graphic arts school did this
  • 00:17:56.290 --> 00:17:59.080
  • A that now is world renowned,
  • 00:17:59.080 --> 00:18:01.280
  • 21.
  • 00:18:01.280 --> 00:18:02.270
  • And it was like, awesome, at
  • 00:18:02.270 --> 00:18:04.010
  • least now we've got an A-21 to
  • 00:18:04.010 --> 00:18:06.030
  • put on the video.
  • 00:18:06.030 --> 00:18:07.050
  • And then we're sitting on my
  • 00:18:07.050 --> 00:18:09.160
  • back porch right there, you
  • 00:18:09.160 --> 00:18:11.020
  • know, in Sydney's suburbs,
  • 00:18:11.020 --> 00:18:13.040
  • and the Sisterhood camera crew,
  • 00:18:13.040 --> 00:18:15.250
  • which I think was like
  • 00:18:15.250 --> 00:18:16.120
  • one camera, you know,
  • 00:18:16.120 --> 00:18:17.130
  • like looking at me
  • 00:18:17.130 --> 00:18:18.050
  • back in the day was on
  • 00:18:18.050 --> 00:18:19.280
  • my back porch.
  • 00:18:19.280 --> 00:18:20.190
  • And so, we're really
  • 00:18:20.190 --> 00:18:21.070
  • professional, as you can tell.
  • 00:18:21.070 --> 00:18:22.130
  • We're just like it's all
  • 00:18:22.130 --> 00:18:23.070
  • planned.
  • 00:18:23.070 --> 00:18:23.220
  • And it was like, okay, we're
  • 00:18:23.220 --> 00:18:25.030
  • rolling 'cause we have to film
  • 00:18:25.030 --> 00:18:26.150
  • something to show in the
  • 00:18:26.150 --> 00:18:27.100
  • Sisterhood session at Colour
  • 00:18:27.100 --> 00:18:28.240
  • in like 2 weeks.
  • 00:18:28.240 --> 00:18:30.030
  • And so, it's like awesome.
  • 00:18:30.030 --> 00:18:32.060
  • And none of us like knew
  • 00:18:32.060 --> 00:18:34.010
  • anything, which is how we
  • 00:18:34.010 --> 00:18:34.240
  • started everything in our
  • 00:18:34.240 --> 00:18:35.170
  • life like no idea.
  • 00:18:35.170 --> 00:18:37.140
  • But a deep passion, and a deep
  • 00:18:37.140 --> 00:18:39.250
  • heart, and compassion flows out
  • 00:18:39.250 --> 00:18:42.080
  • of your passion and out of
  • 00:18:42.080 --> 00:18:43.170
  • a passion for a lost and
  • 00:18:43.170 --> 00:18:44.120
  • a broken humanity,
  • 00:18:44.120 --> 00:18:45.250
  • God had given us a
  • 00:18:45.250 --> 00:18:46.230
  • deep compassion for people that,
  • 00:18:46.230 --> 00:18:48.270
  • you know, the only thing on the
  • 00:18:48.270 --> 00:18:49.230
  • planet created in the image of
  • 00:18:49.230 --> 00:18:51.010
  • God is human beings, and it was
  • 00:18:51.010 --> 00:18:53.020
  • abhorrent to me that a whale,
  • 00:18:53.020 --> 00:18:55.220
  • you know, was having more
  • 00:18:55.220 --> 00:18:57.050
  • people stick up for its rights,
  • 00:18:57.050 --> 00:18:59.210
  • or a tree, than a human being.
  • 00:18:59.210 --> 00:19:01.100
  • And so, I'm like, you know what?
  • 00:19:01.100 --> 00:19:02.170
  • I think there's something a
  • 00:19:02.170 --> 00:19:03.040
  • little bit off here.
  • 00:19:03.040 --> 00:19:04.000
  • And I love whales and I love
  • 00:19:04.000 --> 00:19:04.280
  • trees, incidentally, but I love
  • 00:19:04.280 --> 00:19:06.100
  • human being because they're
  • 00:19:06.100 --> 00:19:07.120
  • created in the image of God.
  • 00:19:07.120 --> 00:19:08.240
  • And so, I'm like we have to do
  • 00:19:08.240 --> 00:19:10.110
  • something.
  • 00:19:10.110 --> 00:19:10.260
  • None of us had any clue but
  • 00:19:10.260 --> 00:19:12.080
  • Bobbie was passionate and
  • 00:19:12.080 --> 00:19:13.170
  • I was passionate.
  • 00:19:13.170 --> 00:19:15.060
  • And so, out of that, we launched
  • 00:19:15.140 --> 00:19:18.140
  • this video, which was me talking
  • 00:19:18.140 --> 00:19:20.040
  • in my backyard about what I had
  • 00:19:20.040 --> 00:19:21.110
  • seen as we traveled, the
  • 00:19:21.110 --> 00:19:23.150
  • posters, and that we have to do
  • 00:19:23.150 --> 00:19:25.040
  • something as a sisterhood.
  • 00:19:25.040 --> 00:19:26.200
  • And that's what I love again,
  • 00:19:26.200 --> 00:19:27.290
  • I just keep saying just the
  • 00:19:27.290 --> 00:19:28.210
  • power of sisterhood.
  • 00:19:28.210 --> 00:19:29.120
  • We might not know all the hows
  • 00:19:29.120 --> 00:19:30.130
  • when we start, but we know if
  • 00:19:30.130 --> 00:19:31.230
  • God drops something in our
  • 00:19:31.230 --> 00:19:32.190
  • spirit and let's go, who would
  • 00:19:32.190 --> 00:19:34.020
  • have guessed?
  • 00:19:34.020 --> 00:19:34.240
  • I mean, that first video was
  • 00:19:34.240 --> 00:19:37.010
  • shown 8 years ago now at Colour
  • 00:19:38.000 --> 00:19:41.000
  • and out of that, you just, there
  • 00:19:41.000 --> 00:19:43.090
  • was this wave of emotion,
  • 00:19:43.090 --> 00:19:45.210
  • empathy, sympathy, passion.
  • 00:19:45.210 --> 00:19:47.260
  • And it was really in Bobbie's
  • 00:19:47.260 --> 00:19:49.270
  • heart too.
  • 00:19:49.270 --> 00:19:50.160
  • It was like, okay, let's get
  • 00:19:50.160 --> 00:19:51.120
  • going.
  • 00:19:51.120 --> 00:19:51.270
  • I don't think any of us knew
  • 00:19:51.270 --> 00:19:52.250
  • then that it would become,
  • 00:19:52.250 --> 00:19:54.060
  • by God's grace, the global
  • 00:19:54.060 --> 00:19:56.050
  • organization that it is today,
  • 00:19:56.050 --> 00:19:57.250
  • you know, 14 offices all around
  • 00:19:57.250 --> 00:19:59.040
  • the world, thousands of girls
  • 00:19:59.040 --> 00:20:01.210
  • rescued, dozens and dozens
  • 00:20:01.210 --> 00:20:03.080
  • of traffickers in jail,
  • 00:20:03.080 --> 00:20:04.200
  • and working with governments,
  • 00:20:04.200 --> 00:20:06.040
  • law enforcement,
  • 00:20:06.040 --> 00:20:07.070
  • educators all over the world,
  • 00:20:07.070 --> 00:20:09.130
  • both in, you know,
  • 00:20:09.130 --> 00:20:10.050
  • in prevention, in restoration,
  • 00:20:10.050 --> 00:20:12.230
  • in prosecution.
  • 00:20:12.230 --> 00:20:14.190
  • You know, it's become,
  • 00:20:14.190 --> 00:20:15.150
  • by the grace of God,
  • 00:20:15.150 --> 00:20:16.090
  • one of the leading
  • 00:20:16.090 --> 00:20:16.250
  • anti-trafficking organizations
  • 00:20:16.250 --> 00:20:17.260
  • in the world today, but it was
  • 00:20:17.260 --> 00:20:20.210
  • birthed in the soil of our
  • 00:20:20.210 --> 00:20:21.270
  • sisterhood, which I think is our
  • 00:20:21.270 --> 00:20:23.060
  • message that when you're in this
  • 00:20:23.060 --> 00:20:24.220
  • sort of environment,
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  • you don't know what God's gonna
  • 00:20:25.100 --> 00:20:26.010
  • drop into your spirit and you
  • 00:20:26.010 --> 00:20:27.220
  • don't know where it's gonna go.
  • 00:20:27.220 --> 00:20:29.010
  • And because of we have a global
  • 00:20:29.010 --> 00:20:30.110
  • sisterhood, well, of course,
  • 00:20:30.110 --> 00:20:31.220
  • the girls all over the world,
  • 00:20:31.220 --> 00:20:32.230
  • I think why it's traveled so
  • 00:20:32.230 --> 00:20:33.200
  • quickly around the world,
  • 00:20:33.200 --> 00:20:34.240
  • and there are local chapters all
  • 00:20:34.240 --> 00:20:35.230
  • over the earth, is because the
  • 00:20:35.230 --> 00:20:37.230
  • girls come here, get inspired,
  • 00:20:37.230 --> 00:20:39.010
  • see it and go.
  • 00:20:39.010 --> 00:20:40.030
  • You know, there's nothing like a
  • 00:20:40.030 --> 00:20:42.190
  • mother hen.
  • 00:20:42.190 --> 00:20:43.190
  • You tell a mother that we're
  • 00:20:43.190 --> 00:20:44.240
  • missing with the kids and you
  • 00:20:44.240 --> 00:20:46.090
  • ain't seen, you ain't seen power
  • 00:20:46.090 --> 00:20:48.150
  • until you've seen a mother rise
  • 00:20:48.150 --> 00:20:49.190
  • up and go, "Oh, these are our
  • 00:20:49.190 --> 00:20:51.070
  • babies.
  • 00:20:51.070 --> 00:20:51.220
  • These are our children."
  • 00:20:51.220 --> 00:20:52.210
  • And we are going after them.
  • 00:20:52.210 --> 00:20:53.290
  • And, you know, I'd hate to be a
  • 00:20:53.290 --> 00:20:56.190
  • trafficker when the sisterhood
  • 00:20:56.190 --> 00:20:57.260
  • is mobilized.
  • 00:20:57.260 --> 00:20:58.150
  • And then our greatest thing is
  • 00:20:58.150 --> 00:20:59.160
  • our prayer maps out of our
  • 00:20:59.160 --> 00:21:01.250
  • Sisterhood Fight Club.
  • 00:21:01.250 --> 00:21:03.060
  • And, you know, there's been a
  • 00:21:03.060 --> 00:21:04.210
  • lot of real damage when it comes
  • 00:21:04.210 --> 00:21:06.140
  • to militancy in religion for
  • 00:21:06.140 --> 00:21:08.190
  • negative causes but when there
  • 00:21:08.190 --> 00:21:10.010
  • a godly, grace-filled, merciful,
  • 00:21:10.180 --> 00:21:13.180
  • militancy that says, we're
  • 00:21:13.180 --> 00:21:14.210
  • assembling an army, but an army
  • 00:21:14.210 --> 00:21:16.050
  • of prayer warriors, and I
  • 00:21:16.050 --> 00:21:18.010
  • believe that has taken down
  • 00:21:18.010 --> 00:21:19.110
  • strongholds.
  • 00:21:19.110 --> 00:21:20.080
  • I honestly believe why we have
  • 00:21:20.080 --> 00:21:21.230
  • seen so many convictions,
  • 00:21:21.230 --> 00:21:23.060
  • so many trafficking rings busted
  • 00:21:23.060 --> 00:21:25.040
  • apart, and so many girls
  • 00:21:25.040 --> 00:21:26.240
  • supernaturally rescued,
  • 00:21:26.240 --> 00:21:28.220
  • just found in miraculous ways,
  • 00:21:28.220 --> 00:21:31.070
  • opportunities open up where they
  • 00:21:31.070 --> 00:21:32.210
  • can escape from their
  • 00:21:32.210 --> 00:21:33.120
  • traffickers is because we have
  • 00:21:33.120 --> 00:21:35.290
  • hundreds of thousands of praying
  • 00:21:35.290 --> 00:21:37.130
  • women around the earth.
  • 00:21:37.130 --> 00:21:38.280
  • And, you know, I've often found
  • 00:21:38.280 --> 00:21:40.170
  • that sometimes you gotta let God
  • 00:21:40.170 --> 00:21:42.030
  • do the hard lifting.
  • 00:21:42.030 --> 00:21:43.080
  • And so, if we lift our petitions
  • 00:21:43.080 --> 00:21:44.130
  • up to God, which is what our
  • 00:21:44.130 --> 00:21:45.110
  • fight club does, then God goes
  • 00:21:45.110 --> 00:21:48.010
  • to work.
  • 00:21:48.010 --> 00:21:48.160
  • And Exodus talks about that from
  • 00:21:48.160 --> 00:21:50.070
  • the Bible.
  • 00:21:50.070 --> 00:21:51.060
  • The Lord says, "You just be
  • 00:21:51.060 --> 00:21:52.130
  • still and I'll go to battle for
  • 00:21:52.130 --> 00:21:53.200
  • you."
  • 00:21:53.200 --> 00:21:54.140
  • And I feel that's what we're
  • 00:21:54.140 --> 00:21:55.180
  • doing as a sisterhood.
  • 00:21:55.180 --> 00:21:56.190
  • So, people ask me everywhere,
  • 00:21:56.190 --> 00:21:58.120
  • government authorities, leaders
  • 00:21:58.120 --> 00:22:00.080
  • of nations, "Why are you people
  • 00:22:00.080 --> 00:22:02.170
  • so successful?
  • 00:22:02.170 --> 00:22:03.100
  • Why do you have so many
  • 00:22:03.100 --> 00:22:03.280
  • convictions?
  • 00:22:03.280 --> 00:22:04.180
  • Why is your victim--"
  • 00:22:04.180 --> 00:22:05.210
  • What is unique about us is in
  • 00:22:05.210 --> 00:22:07.220
  • our aftercare program and our
  • 00:22:07.220 --> 00:22:09.090
  • victim rehabilitation program,
  • 00:22:09.090 --> 00:22:11.150
  • we have got a 98% success rate
  • 00:22:11.150 --> 00:22:13.110
  • where our victims are not
  • 00:22:13.110 --> 00:22:14.150
  • re-trafficked.
  • 00:22:14.150 --> 00:22:15.110
  • Everywhere else, over 95%
  • 00:22:15.110 --> 00:22:17.120
  • of victims are re-trafficked,
  • 00:22:17.120 --> 00:22:18.210
  • and I think that's got a lot to
  • 00:22:18.210 --> 00:22:19.230
  • do with our global Sisterhood
  • 00:22:19.230 --> 00:22:21.050
  • and our systems that we have in
  • 00:22:21.050 --> 00:22:22.240
  • place that enable our aftercare
  • 00:22:23.220 --> 00:22:26.220
  • and our victim care to really go
  • 00:22:26.220 --> 00:22:28.080
  • the next level.
  • 00:22:28.080 --> 00:22:29.000
  • So, you know, who would have
  • 00:22:29.000 --> 00:22:30.160
  • thought?
  • 00:22:30.160 --> 00:22:31.010
  • I mean, there are multitudes and
  • 00:22:31.010 --> 00:22:32.240
  • multitudes we will never know
  • 00:22:32.240 --> 00:22:34.240
  • that have been birthed out of
  • 00:22:34.240 --> 00:22:35.210
  • Colour Sisterhood.
  • 00:22:35.210 --> 00:22:37.090
  • And so, out of that A-21,
  • 00:22:37.090 --> 00:22:39.080
  • definitely, that was the
  • 00:22:39.080 --> 00:22:40.020
  • first place it was announced and
  • 00:22:40.020 --> 00:22:41.200
  • all of these years,
  • 00:22:41.200 --> 00:22:42.230
  • we've just been in partnership
  • 00:22:42.230 --> 00:22:44.100
  • - Christine: There was this
  • 00:22:49.110 --> 00:22:49.280
  • moment in worship, which is why
  • 00:22:49.280 --> 00:22:51.260
  • I thought this conference is so
  • 00:22:51.260 --> 00:22:52.290
  • powerful, and all I knew and I
  • 00:22:52.290 --> 00:22:55.090
  • said to the conference, I said,
  • 00:22:55.090 --> 00:22:56.150
  • "Something happened to me.
  • 00:22:56.150 --> 00:22:58.030
  • And I said, whatever it was, it
  • 00:22:58.030 --> 00:22:59.210
  • was as dramatic is when I
  • 00:22:59.210 --> 00:23:01.040
  • got that sense of A-21,
  • 00:23:01.040 --> 00:23:03.070
  • whatever just happen.
  • 00:23:03.070 --> 00:23:03.280
  • So, I don't know what it is but
  • 00:23:03.280 --> 00:23:05.090
  • in a couple of years, you're all
  • 00:23:05.090 --> 00:23:05.280
  • gonna hear me talking about
  • 00:23:05.280 --> 00:23:06.270
  • something and I'm telling you,
  • 00:23:06.270 --> 00:23:08.260
  • it's as dramatic as that."
  • 00:23:08.260 --> 00:23:09.290
  • And then when I look at this,
  • 00:23:09.290 --> 00:23:10.260
  • I think, wow.
  • 00:23:10.260 --> 00:23:11.250
  • That's what I believe that
  • 00:23:11.250 --> 00:23:12.250
  • - Kylie: So, from 8 years ago
  • 00:23:19.180 --> 00:23:21.040
  • to now, you would have seen
  • 00:23:21.040 --> 00:23:22.020
  • many stories.
  • 00:23:22.020 --> 00:23:23.110
  • Can you think of one that's
  • 00:23:23.110 --> 00:23:24.020
  • really stood out to you as
  • 00:23:24.020 --> 00:23:26.080
  • special?
  • 00:23:26.080 --> 00:23:26.260
  • - Christine: There are lots.
  • 00:23:26.260 --> 00:23:27.150
  • we're in the midst of it.
  • 00:23:29.190 --> 00:23:30.140
  • I'm loving to watch some of our
  • 00:23:30.140 --> 00:23:31.190
  • girls come through.
  • 00:23:31.190 --> 00:23:33.120
  • You know, we've got one of our
  • 00:23:33.120 --> 00:23:35.060
  • girls was horrifically raped.
  • 00:23:35.060 --> 00:23:36.280
  • She was raped 30 times a day
  • 00:23:36.280 --> 00:23:38.100
  • for 2 years.
  • 00:23:38.100 --> 00:23:39.050
  • You know, it was a miraculous
  • 00:23:39.050 --> 00:23:40.260
  • rescue.
  • 00:23:40.260 --> 00:23:41.120
  • This girl, there was a moment
  • 00:23:41.120 --> 00:23:43.120
  • when her trafficker just left
  • 00:23:43.120 --> 00:23:45.140
  • for maybe less than 5 minutes
  • 00:23:45.140 --> 00:23:47.270
  • to go and get something from
  • 00:23:47.270 --> 00:23:49.010
  • another room, and she had
  • 00:23:49.010 --> 00:23:50.170
  • just had enough.
  • 00:23:50.170 --> 00:23:51.040
  • I think she was probably
  • 00:23:51.040 --> 00:23:51.270
  • thinking she was gonna take her
  • 00:23:51.270 --> 00:23:53.090
  • own life, which I can understand
  • 00:23:53.090 --> 00:23:54.260
  • when you're just in that kind of
  • 00:23:54.260 --> 00:23:55.190
  • depravity and brokenness.
  • 00:23:55.190 --> 00:23:57.140
  • And so, he had forgotten to
  • 00:23:57.140 --> 00:23:59.140
  • lock the window.
  • 00:23:59.140 --> 00:24:00.050
  • Normally, they're locked in so
  • 00:24:00.050 --> 00:24:01.070
  • they can't get out.
  • 00:24:01.070 --> 00:24:02.090
  • And so, she just pushed it open
  • 00:24:02.090 --> 00:24:04.210
  • on the fourth floor balcony and
  • 00:24:04.210 --> 00:24:06.070
  • just like jumped.
  • 00:24:06.070 --> 00:24:07.280
  • Miraculously, she didn't die and
  • 00:24:07.280 --> 00:24:09.110
  • someone came, took her to
  • 00:24:09.110 --> 00:24:10.280
  • the police.
  • 00:24:10.280 --> 00:24:12.010
  • Then we got involved.
  • 00:24:12.010 --> 00:24:13.000
  • And then to watch her go through
  • 00:24:13.000 --> 00:24:14.140
  • the restoration process and now,
  • 00:24:14.140 --> 00:24:17.060
  • she's in university studying
  • 00:24:17.060 --> 00:24:18.250
  • law.
  • 00:24:18.250 --> 00:24:19.250
  • And it's quite profound,
  • 00:24:19.250 --> 00:24:21.090
  • you know, just to watch her.
  • 00:24:21.090 --> 00:24:22.180
  • She's in her second year and,
  • 00:24:22.180 --> 00:24:24.210
  • you know, she sent me a text
  • 00:24:24.210 --> 00:24:25.190
  • just the other day to say,
  • 00:24:25.190 --> 00:24:27.090
  • "It's still miraculous to me
  • 00:24:27.100 --> 00:24:30.100
  • that I wake up every morning and
  • 00:24:30.100 --> 00:24:32.040
  • I think, I'm free and that no
  • 00:24:32.040 --> 00:24:33.190
  • one's coming in to get me."
  • 00:24:33.190 --> 00:24:34.200
  • Like, just to watch that,
  • 00:24:34.200 --> 00:24:35.190
  • you know, like this freedom,
  • 00:24:35.190 --> 00:24:37.270
  • which is our whole message of
  • 00:24:37.270 --> 00:24:39.080
  • setting the captives free
  • 00:24:39.080 --> 00:24:40.130
  • spiritually or physically,
  • 00:24:40.130 --> 00:24:41.290
  • and that's kind of what happened
  • 00:24:41.290 --> 00:24:43.150
  • there.
  • 00:24:43.150 --> 00:24:44.000
  • So, it's so--and I've got story
  • 00:24:44.000 --> 00:24:44.270
  • after story.
  • 00:24:44.270 --> 00:24:45.120
  • I've got another girl just
  • 00:24:45.120 --> 00:24:46.110
  • finishing nursing college now.
  • 00:24:46.110 --> 00:24:47.280
  • So, I love to watch them come
  • 00:24:47.280 --> 00:24:49.030
  • through because what happened
  • 00:24:49.030 --> 00:24:50.210
  • was many of them get trafficked
  • 00:24:50.210 --> 00:24:52.030
  • because they think they're gonna
  • 00:24:52.030 --> 00:24:52.250
  • go to another country and have
  • 00:24:52.250 --> 00:24:54.050
  • an opportunity at a better life.
  • 00:24:54.050 --> 00:24:55.180
  • They've come out of abject
  • 00:24:55.180 --> 00:24:56.110
  • poverty, and they have this
  • 00:24:56.110 --> 00:24:58.010
  • dream and then a trafficker
  • 00:24:58.010 --> 00:24:59.210
  • takes them and that dream is
  • 00:24:59.210 --> 00:25:00.260
  • turned into a nightmare.
  • 00:25:00.260 --> 00:25:01.290
  • I love taking those nightmares
  • 00:25:01.290 --> 00:25:03.020
  • and turning them back into
  • 00:25:03.020 --> 00:25:03.250
  • dreams.
  • 00:25:03.250 --> 00:25:04.100
  • That's pretty powerful.
  • 00:25:04.100 --> 00:25:05.180
  • - Kylie: That is powerful.
  • 00:25:05.180 --> 00:25:06.200
  • So, in this last year, you've
  • 00:25:06.200 --> 00:25:07.160
  • started Propel, Propel Women.
  • 00:25:07.160 --> 00:25:09.260
  • Can you tell me a little bit
  • 00:25:09.260 --> 00:25:10.130
  • about that?
  • 00:25:10.130 --> 00:25:10.280
  • - Christine: Yeah, I'm so
  • 00:25:10.280 --> 00:25:11.140
  • excited about that.
  • 00:25:11.140 --> 00:25:12.080
  • Now again, you know, probably
  • 00:25:12.080 --> 00:25:13.270
  • for the last 2 1/2 years
  • 00:25:13.270 --> 00:25:16.200
  • before this year, Bobbie and I
  • 00:25:16.200 --> 00:25:18.150
  • were talking again and I kept
  • 00:25:18.150 --> 00:25:19.220
  • saying, you know, with all of
  • 00:25:19.220 --> 00:25:20.210
  • our travels, I'm watching what
  • 00:25:20.210 --> 00:25:21.280
  • our Sisterhood's doing.
  • 00:25:21.280 --> 00:25:23.190
  • We are helping to really
  • 00:25:23.190 --> 00:25:26.050
  • revolutionize a lot of women's
  • 00:25:26.050 --> 00:25:27.170
  • ministry in churches around the
  • 00:25:27.170 --> 00:25:29.180
  • world where we're seeing things
  • 00:25:29.180 --> 00:25:31.050
  • really happen.
  • 00:25:31.050 --> 00:25:32.070
  • I said, but there's this niche
  • 00:25:32.070 --> 00:25:33.140
  • market of women that are in the
  • 00:25:33.140 --> 00:25:36.080
  • marketplace, most of them very
  • 00:25:36.080 --> 00:25:38.200
  • well educated and not feeling
  • 00:25:38.250 --> 00:25:41.250
  • supported out there in--they're
  • 00:25:41.250 --> 00:25:44.100
  • salt and light in their world,
  • 00:25:44.100 --> 00:25:46.170
  • but they're feeling like,
  • 00:25:46.170 --> 00:25:47.290
  • "I need more tools,
  • 00:25:47.290 --> 00:25:48.260
  • more resources.
  • 00:25:48.260 --> 00:25:50.020
  • How do I develop my leadership
  • 00:25:50.020 --> 00:25:51.200
  • capacity, my leadership
  • 00:25:51.200 --> 00:25:52.210
  • potential?"
  • 00:25:52.210 --> 00:25:53.170
  • What is it to do mission and
  • 00:25:53.170 --> 00:25:54.280
  • evangelism in the marketplace
  • 00:25:54.280 --> 00:25:57.250
  • where you've got a HR department
  • 00:25:57.250 --> 00:25:59.070
  • where, you know, you really
  • 00:25:59.070 --> 00:26:00.100
  • can't proclaim Christ in
  • 00:26:00.100 --> 00:26:01.280
  • the marketplace?
  • 00:26:01.280 --> 00:26:02.190
  • You've gotta do what your
  • 00:26:02.190 --> 00:26:03.050
  • boss says, you know?
  • 00:26:03.050 --> 00:26:04.040
  • And in a pluralistic culture, in
  • 00:26:05.070 --> 00:26:08.070
  • a tolerant culture, what is it
  • 00:26:08.070 --> 00:26:10.030
  • to be salt and light?
  • 00:26:10.030 --> 00:26:11.170
  • And again, the evangelist in me
  • 00:26:11.170 --> 00:26:13.150
  • is kind of this is far more
  • 00:26:13.150 --> 00:26:15.160
  • targeted, you know, so when we
  • 00:26:15.160 --> 00:26:17.010
  • gather together in our global
  • 00:26:17.010 --> 00:26:19.150
  • Sisterhood and at our
  • 00:26:19.150 --> 00:26:20.200
  • conferences when we're speaking
  • 00:26:20.200 --> 00:26:22.060
  • to a general, you know, woman,
  • 00:26:22.060 --> 00:26:24.210
  • and we need to be all inclusive
  • 00:26:24.210 --> 00:26:26.170
  • to a woman in every stage of
  • 00:26:26.170 --> 00:26:27.230
  • the journey.
  • 00:26:27.230 --> 00:26:28.230
  • But then we've got some women
  • 00:26:28.230 --> 00:26:29.240
  • here that are needing to be
  • 00:26:29.280 --> 00:26:32.280
  • propelled and that's really
  • 00:26:32.280 --> 00:26:34.020
  • the word.
  • 00:26:34.020 --> 00:26:34.170
  • Really where the Lord spoke to
  • 00:26:34.170 --> 00:26:35.200
  • me was out of the gospels where
  • 00:26:35.200 --> 00:26:38.180
  • Jesus, 2.000 years ago, said,
  • 00:26:38.180 --> 00:26:41.140
  • "You know, the harvest is
  • 00:26:41.140 --> 00:26:42.250
  • plentiful, but the laborers are
  • 00:26:42.250 --> 00:26:44.110
  • few, therefore pray to the Lord
  • 00:26:44.110 --> 00:26:46.090
  • of the harvest to send forth
  • 00:26:46.090 --> 00:26:48.150
  • laborers into the harvest."
  • 00:26:48.150 --> 00:26:49.220
  • That word "send forth"
  • 00:26:49.220 --> 00:26:50.260
  • in the Greek means propel.
  • 00:26:50.260 --> 00:26:52.230
  • And so, it's a propelling.
  • 00:26:52.230 --> 00:26:54.250
  • It's a moving forward.
  • 00:26:54.250 --> 00:26:56.080
  • And I thought, okay, we have so
  • 00:26:56.080 --> 00:26:58.140
  • done our job and are doing our
  • 00:26:58.140 --> 00:26:59.240
  • job, you know, these 20 years as
  • 00:26:59.240 --> 00:27:01.250
  • a Colour Sisterhood.
  • 00:27:01.250 --> 00:27:03.150
  • There's another almost like a
  • 00:27:03.170 --> 00:27:06.170
  • vein that we need to target.
  • 00:27:06.180 --> 00:27:09.180
  • Women in leadership, women
  • 00:27:09.180 --> 00:27:11.150
  • in every realm of leadership,
  • 00:27:11.150 --> 00:27:12.190
  • marketplace leadership, you
  • 00:27:12.190 --> 00:27:14.060
  • know, church-based leadership,
  • 00:27:14.060 --> 00:27:15.130
  • in every realm, and help them to
  • 00:27:15.130 --> 00:27:18.040
  • internalize the leadership
  • 00:27:18.040 --> 00:27:19.030
  • identity because it's still a
  • 00:27:19.030 --> 00:27:20.170
  • new thing for women,
  • 00:27:20.170 --> 00:27:21.220
  • generally speaking, to kind of
  • 00:27:21.220 --> 00:27:23.280
  • think of themselves as leaders
  • 00:27:23.280 --> 00:27:24.280
  • even in the marketplace.
  • 00:27:24.280 --> 00:27:26.080
  • That leadership space has been a
  • 00:27:26.080 --> 00:27:27.100
  • male space and so many women,
  • 00:27:27.100 --> 00:27:29.290
  • for years, have thought to be a
  • 00:27:29.290 --> 00:27:31.080
  • leader it means to act like a
  • 00:27:31.080 --> 00:27:32.110
  • man.
  • 00:27:32.110 --> 00:27:33.000
  • We haven't said that consciously
  • 00:27:33.000 --> 00:27:33.270
  • but that's what you think
  • 00:27:33.270 --> 00:27:34.290
  • because the medium is the
  • 00:27:34.290 --> 00:27:35.210
  • message so if all you're ever
  • 00:27:35.210 --> 00:27:36.220
  • seeing is men in leadership in
  • 00:27:36.220 --> 00:27:39.060
  • sea suites, you know, in
  • 00:27:39.060 --> 00:27:41.090
  • executive suites in the
  • 00:27:41.090 --> 00:27:42.110
  • marketplace, or just
  • 00:27:42.110 --> 00:27:44.040
  • entrepreneurly or, you know,
  • 00:27:44.040 --> 00:27:45.230
  • in the church,
  • 00:27:45.230 --> 00:27:46.160
  • in the faith sector.
  • 00:27:46.160 --> 00:27:48.130
  • If all you see is men, you don't
  • 00:27:48.130 --> 00:27:50.280
  • realize, is there a feminine
  • 00:27:50.280 --> 00:27:52.100
  • quality to bring to the
  • 00:27:52.100 --> 00:27:53.150
  • leadership table?
  • 00:27:53.150 --> 00:27:54.090
  • You just think to be a leader,
  • 00:27:54.090 --> 00:27:56.060
  • you act like that.
  • 00:27:56.060 --> 00:27:57.160
  • Now, the problem is if God has
  • 00:27:57.160 --> 00:27:58.230
  • hardwired you up differently
  • 00:27:58.230 --> 00:28:00.090
  • because you actually are female,
  • 00:28:00.090 --> 00:28:01.160
  • so what is it to be a female
  • 00:28:01.160 --> 00:28:02.260
  • and a leader?
  • 00:28:02.260 --> 00:28:03.290
  • In many spheres, unfortunately
  • 00:28:04.240 --> 00:28:07.240
  • for some Christians still,
  • 00:28:07.240 --> 00:28:09.140
  • the words they're two oxymorons,
  • 00:28:09.140 --> 00:28:11.230
  • female, leader is an oxymoron.
  • 00:28:11.230 --> 00:28:13.160
  • It's like, whoa, you can't put
  • 00:28:13.160 --> 00:28:14.230
  • those two things together.
  • 00:28:14.230 --> 00:28:16.020
  • And so, I knew that there was
  • 00:28:16.020 --> 00:28:18.160
  • something I could bring to
  • 00:28:18.160 --> 00:28:19.050
  • the table.
  • 00:28:19.050 --> 00:28:19.210
  • After these 8 years of, by God's
  • 00:28:20.220 --> 00:28:23.220
  • grace, success in A-21 what it
  • 00:28:24.180 --> 00:28:27.180
  • opened me up to, obviously,
  • 00:28:27.180 --> 00:28:29.080
  • is lot--the NGO sector,
  • 00:28:29.080 --> 00:28:30.190
  • the government sector,
  • 00:28:30.190 --> 00:28:32.170
  • the corporate sector.
  • 00:28:32.170 --> 00:28:33.240
  • So, I'm sitting in boardrooms.
  • 00:28:33.240 --> 00:28:35.090
  • I'm sitting in high-level
  • 00:28:35.090 --> 00:28:36.210
  • government meetings with women
  • 00:28:36.210 --> 00:28:39.060
  • who we've not yet touched and
  • 00:28:39.060 --> 00:28:41.100
  • who because of what they do and
  • 00:28:41.100 --> 00:28:43.270
  • their workplace commitments,
  • 00:28:43.270 --> 00:28:45.170
  • haven't been able to connect
  • 00:28:45.170 --> 00:28:47.080
  • into the Sisterhood.
  • 00:28:47.080 --> 00:28:48.060
  • So, I'm like, how can I take
  • 00:28:48.060 --> 00:28:48.280
  • Sisterhood to them in a
  • 00:28:48.280 --> 00:28:50.060
  • different way?
  • 00:28:50.060 --> 00:28:50.260
  • And so, and right where they
  • 00:28:50.260 --> 00:28:52.240
  • are.
  • 00:28:52.240 --> 00:28:53.130
  • So, really out of that, Bobbie
  • 00:28:53.130 --> 00:28:54.280
  • and I were talking for a couple
  • 00:28:54.280 --> 00:28:56.090
  • of years and then maybe about
  • 00:28:56.090 --> 00:28:58.160
  • a year and a half ago she said
  • 00:28:58.160 --> 00:28:59.280
  • to me, "Well, you know, Chris, a
  • 00:28:59.280 --> 00:29:01.090
  • bit like A-21, we'll just go for
  • 00:29:01.090 --> 00:29:02.280
  • it and let's see where it
  • 00:29:02.280 --> 00:29:03.270
  • lands."
  • 00:29:03.270 --> 00:29:04.150
  • You know, it was kind of like
  • 00:29:04.150 --> 00:29:05.080
  • the same sort of thing is just
  • 00:29:05.080 --> 00:29:07.060
  • go and see.
  • 00:29:07.060 --> 00:29:08.020
  • "We need to stay on track with
  • 00:29:08.020 --> 00:29:09.170
  • what we're doing as a
  • 00:29:09.170 --> 00:29:10.040
  • Colour Sisterhood."
  • 00:29:10.040 --> 00:29:10.190
  • I'm like, "Absolutely.
  • 00:29:10.190 --> 00:29:11.210
  • And I'm all in.
  • 00:29:11.210 --> 00:29:12.110
  • You know, that's what we do.
  • 00:29:12.110 --> 00:29:13.190
  • But let's see if we can take
  • 00:29:13.230 --> 00:29:16.230
  • the thread of this message into
  • 00:29:17.170 --> 00:29:20.170
  • a high leadership culture
  • 00:29:20.170 --> 00:29:22.030
  • and then--"
  • 00:29:22.030 --> 00:29:22.290
  • Because, obviously, even all of
  • 00:29:22.290 --> 00:29:25.030
  • those women, that's what I've
  • 00:29:25.030 --> 00:29:26.070
  • discovered whether I'm talking
  • 00:29:26.070 --> 00:29:27.060
  • to top, top level politicians,
  • 00:29:27.060 --> 00:29:29.220
  • you know, corporate executives,
  • 00:29:29.220 --> 00:29:32.020
  • at heart, they're women,
  • 00:29:32.020 --> 00:29:33.180
  • and at heart, they've got issues
  • 00:29:33.180 --> 00:29:35.090
  • but the issues they're
  • 00:29:35.090 --> 00:29:36.150
  • confronting are different.
  • 00:29:36.150 --> 00:29:38.110
  • You know, when you're dealing
  • 00:29:38.110 --> 00:29:40.050
  • with leadership at that level,
  • 00:29:40.050 --> 00:29:41.140
  • the questions you're asking, and
  • 00:29:41.140 --> 00:29:42.190
  • even the questions as a woman
  • 00:29:42.190 --> 00:29:44.150
  • are a little bit different.
  • 00:29:44.150 --> 00:29:45.150
  • "And what does got require of
  • 00:29:45.150 --> 00:29:46.140
  • me?
  • 00:29:46.140 --> 00:29:47.100
  • What does marriage look like?
  • 00:29:47.100 --> 00:29:48.040
  • What does motherhood look like?"
  • 00:29:48.040 --> 00:29:49.060
  • The fact is most of the,
  • 00:29:49.060 --> 00:29:50.170
  • you know, in those spheres,
  • 00:29:50.170 --> 00:29:53.110
  • 57% of those women are single
  • 00:29:53.110 --> 00:29:55.100
  • and may never bear their own
  • 00:29:55.100 --> 00:29:56.050
  • biological children.
  • 00:29:56.050 --> 00:29:57.050
  • So, to a degree,
  • 00:29:57.050 --> 00:29:58.040
  • what does it mean?
  • 00:29:58.040 --> 00:29:59.030
  • What is it to be Christ-like,
  • 00:29:59.030 --> 00:30:00.110
  • and how do I help activate that
  • 00:30:00.110 --> 00:30:02.000
  • woman to maximize her
  • 00:30:02.000 --> 00:30:03.180
  • leadership potential,
  • 00:30:03.180 --> 00:30:04.240
  • to be a woman,
  • 00:30:04.240 --> 00:30:05.190
  • to feel like she's part of a
  • 00:30:05.190 --> 00:30:06.150
  • global sisterhood, even if she
  • 00:30:06.150 --> 00:30:07.260
  • can't day in and day out connect
  • 00:30:07.260 --> 00:30:09.270
  • on a local level because her job
  • 00:30:09.270 --> 00:30:11.140
  • might be, you know, global?
  • 00:30:11.140 --> 00:30:12.260
  • And what I'm finding is that if
  • 00:30:12.270 --> 00:30:15.270
  • we don't step into that gap, a
  • 00:30:15.270 --> 00:30:17.200
  • lot of other people are stepping
  • 00:30:17.200 --> 00:30:18.120
  • into that gap and the values are
  • 00:30:18.120 --> 00:30:19.250
  • not necessarily godly and
  • 00:30:19.250 --> 00:30:21.010
  • they're not necessarily
  • 00:30:21.010 --> 00:30:21.270
  • life-enhancing.
  • 00:30:21.270 --> 00:30:23.020
  • And I have a real commitment.
  • 00:30:23.020 --> 00:30:24.270
  • I believe, you know, obviously
  • 00:30:24.270 --> 00:30:26.040
  • God's a Trinitarian God and God
  • 00:30:26.040 --> 00:30:27.280
  • has given us both gifts of
  • 00:30:27.280 --> 00:30:28.270
  • the Holy Spirit and fruit of
  • 00:30:28.270 --> 00:30:29.290
  • the Holy Spirit.
  • 00:30:29.290 --> 00:30:31.000
  • And a lot of times we thought
  • 00:30:31.000 --> 00:30:32.170
  • things like, love, joy, peace,
  • 00:30:32.170 --> 00:30:33.260
  • kindness, gentleness,
  • 00:30:33.260 --> 00:30:34.190
  • long suffering, goodness,
  • 00:30:34.190 --> 00:30:37.000
  • they're girly, but they're
  • 00:30:37.000 --> 00:30:38.020
  • actually godly because
  • 00:30:38.020 --> 00:30:39.070
  • the Holy Spirit is God.
  • 00:30:39.070 --> 00:30:40.130
  • And so, if they are qualities of
  • 00:30:40.130 --> 00:30:41.290
  • him--and what I want to see is
  • 00:30:41.290 --> 00:30:43.170
  • those Holy Spirit godly
  • 00:30:43.170 --> 00:30:44.220
  • qualities taken into the
  • 00:30:44.220 --> 00:30:46.040
  • marketplace and into that
  • 00:30:46.040 --> 00:30:47.180
  • leadership space, and I think
  • 00:30:47.180 --> 00:30:49.060
  • through Propel, we're helping
  • 00:30:49.060 --> 00:30:50.030
  • women to do that.
  • 00:30:50.030 --> 00:30:51.010
  • - Kylie: That's amazing.
  • 00:30:51.010 --> 00:30:52.010
  • And again, that must have
  • 00:30:52.010 --> 00:30:53.020
  • surprised you at how that's
  • 00:30:53.020 --> 00:30:54.210
  • taken off and--
  • 00:30:54.210 --> 00:30:55.130
  • - Christine: Totally.
  • 00:30:55.130 --> 00:30:55.280
  • It's a bit like A-21.
  • 00:30:55.280 --> 00:30:56.210
  • I'm like, you know,
  • 00:30:56.210 --> 00:30:57.170
  • I don't jump too soon.
  • 00:30:57.170 --> 00:30:59.100
  • Like, you know me, I'm crazy.
  • 00:30:59.100 --> 00:31:00.070
  • I'm running around talking about
  • 00:31:00.070 --> 00:31:01.060
  • Jesus everywhere.
  • 00:31:01.060 --> 00:31:01.270
  • Really that's my bottom line,
  • 00:31:01.270 --> 00:31:02.210
  • I talk about Jesus and teach
  • 00:31:02.210 --> 00:31:04.050
  • the Bible.
  • 00:31:04.050 --> 00:31:04.200
  • I love to do that but both of
  • 00:31:04.200 --> 00:31:06.190
  • those things, A-21 and Propel,
  • 00:31:06.250 --> 00:31:09.250
  • were birthed--and, you know, if
  • 00:31:09.250 --> 00:31:11.130
  • you go back and have a look at
  • 00:31:11.130 --> 00:31:13.040
  • me teaching, the year before
  • 00:31:13.040 --> 00:31:14.250
  • last, the closing moment in
  • 00:31:14.250 --> 00:31:17.050
  • what was then the
  • 00:31:17.050 --> 00:31:17.250
  • Sydney Entertainment Center,
  • 00:31:17.250 --> 00:31:18.260
  • it existed before it was knocked
  • 00:31:18.260 --> 00:31:20.050
  • down.
  • 00:31:20.050 --> 00:31:20.270
  • I spoke a closing message and
  • 00:31:20.270 --> 00:31:23.210
  • I said in that message to the
  • 00:31:23.210 --> 00:31:25.000
  • whole conference, I just
  • 00:31:25.000 --> 00:31:26.130
  • remember it.
  • 00:31:26.130 --> 00:31:26.280
  • I pointed over across the room,
  • 00:31:26.280 --> 00:31:29.230
  • 'cause I can remember where I
  • 00:31:29.230 --> 00:31:30.160
  • was sitting in the entertainment
  • 00:31:30.160 --> 00:31:31.120
  • center, and I felt
  • 00:31:31.120 --> 00:31:32.160
  • the Holy Spirit come upon me in
  • 00:31:32.160 --> 00:31:33.210
  • the same way he did in A-21.
  • 00:31:33.210 --> 00:31:35.090
  • So, you know, in my 28 years of
  • 00:31:35.090 --> 00:31:36.280
  • Christianity, I've only had a
  • 00:31:36.280 --> 00:31:38.110
  • handful of these occasions so
  • 00:31:38.110 --> 00:31:39.120
  • it's not that I say this,
  • 00:31:39.120 --> 00:31:40.040
  • you know, it's not like,
  • 00:31:40.040 --> 00:31:41.030
  • "God said and God said."
  • 00:31:41.030 --> 00:31:42.030
  • I'm weary of all of that.
  • 00:31:42.030 --> 00:31:43.260
  • But I did have an encounter
  • 00:31:43.260 --> 00:31:45.040
  • where I knew there was this
  • 00:31:45.040 --> 00:31:46.220
  • moment in worship, which is why
  • 00:31:46.220 --> 00:31:48.290
  • this conference is so powerful.
  • 00:31:48.290 --> 00:31:50.200
  • And all I knew, and I said to
  • 00:31:50.200 --> 00:31:52.200
  • the conference, I said,
  • 00:31:52.200 --> 00:31:53.150
  • "Something happened to me.
  • 00:31:53.150 --> 00:31:55.000
  • And I said, whatever it was,
  • 00:31:55.000 --> 00:31:56.180
  • it was as dramatic as when A-21.
  • 00:31:56.180 --> 00:31:58.280
  • I said, and so when I got that
  • 00:31:58.280 --> 00:32:00.190
  • sense of A-21, whatever just
  • 00:32:00.190 --> 00:32:02.180
  • happened--I said, so I don't
  • 00:32:02.180 --> 00:32:03.140
  • know what it is but in a couple
  • 00:32:03.140 --> 00:32:04.240
  • of years you're all gonna hear
  • 00:32:04.240 --> 00:32:05.240
  • me talking about something and
  • 00:32:05.240 --> 00:32:07.120
  • I'm telling you, it's as
  • 00:32:07.120 --> 00:32:08.090
  • dramatic as that."
  • 00:32:08.090 --> 00:32:09.040
  • And then when I look at this,
  • 00:32:09.040 --> 00:32:09.290
  • I think wow.
  • 00:32:09.290 --> 00:32:11.000
  • That's what I believe that
  • 00:32:11.000 --> 00:32:11.290
  • it was.
  • 00:32:11.290 --> 00:32:13.150
  • And I think that's why it has
  • 00:32:13.150 --> 00:32:15.100
  • exploded.
  • 00:32:15.100 --> 00:32:16.140
  • And here's the truth of it,
  • 00:32:16.140 --> 00:32:17.230
  • I still think, you know,
  • 00:32:17.230 --> 00:32:18.170
  • I'm 50 this year.
  • 00:32:18.170 --> 00:32:19.170
  • I still think I've got one more
  • 00:32:19.170 --> 00:32:20.110
  • thing in me.
  • 00:32:20.110 --> 00:32:21.010
  • I don't know what it is yet, but
  • 00:32:21.010 --> 00:32:22.080
  • I think it's--and, again, this
  • 00:32:22.080 --> 00:32:23.240
  • environment is what germinates
  • 00:32:23.240 --> 00:32:25.230
  • that on the inside of me.
  • 00:32:25.230 --> 00:32:26.290
  • And I'm thinking, oh, no,
  • 00:32:26.290 --> 00:32:28.140
  • I'm not done and I don't know
  • 00:32:28.140 --> 00:32:29.180
  • what it is.
  • 00:32:29.180 --> 00:32:30.030
  • And that's why I would encourage
  • 00:32:30.030 --> 00:32:30.280
  • everyone to come because I call
  • 00:32:30.280 --> 00:32:32.150
  • it an incubator for the God
  • 00:32:32.150 --> 00:32:34.020
  • dream and the God drop.
  • 00:32:34.020 --> 00:32:35.190
  • And things happen that then just
  • 00:32:35.200 --> 00:32:38.200
  • absolutely explode and have the
  • 00:32:38.200 --> 00:32:40.060
  • potential to change the world.
  • 00:32:40.060 --> 00:32:42.160
  • So, it's pretty awesome.
  • 00:32:42.160 --> 00:32:43.060
  • - Kylie: Can't even imagine
  • 00:32:43.060 --> 00:32:43.230
  • what that would be for the next
  • 00:32:43.230 --> 00:32:44.240
  • chapter of your life, but I look
  • 00:32:44.240 --> 00:32:46.070
  • - Christine: You know,
  • 00:32:51.070 --> 00:32:51.220
  • I came from an abuse background.
  • 00:32:51.220 --> 00:32:53.170
  • I was left in a hospital unnamed
  • 00:32:53.170 --> 00:32:55.130
  • and unwanted when I was born.
  • 00:32:55.130 --> 00:32:56.180
  • So, there was a lot of rejection
  • 00:32:56.180 --> 00:32:57.290
  • issues, a lot of abandonment
  • 00:32:57.290 --> 00:32:59.060
  • issues, a lot of brokenness, and
  • 00:32:59.060 --> 00:33:01.130
  • bitterness, and unforgiveness,
  • 00:33:01.130 --> 00:33:03.000
  • and shame, and guilt,
  • 00:33:03.000 --> 00:33:04.120
  • and condemnation, and anger.
  • 00:33:04.120 --> 00:33:06.230
  • And so, when I came to Christ,
  • 00:33:06.230 --> 00:33:08.000
  • my spirit was born again,
  • 00:33:08.000 --> 00:33:09.090
  • - Kylie: Now, your message at
  • 00:33:15.240 --> 00:33:16.130
  • Colour, tell me a little bit
  • 00:33:16.130 --> 00:33:17.190
  • about the message.
  • 00:33:17.190 --> 00:33:18.170
  • - Christine: You know, I spoke
  • 00:33:18.170 --> 00:33:19.140
  • this year a couple of messages,
  • 00:33:19.140 --> 00:33:21.210
  • both I would call life messages
  • 00:33:21.210 --> 00:33:23.090
  • for me.
  • 00:33:23.090 --> 00:33:25.180
  • your internal settings and how
  • 00:33:27.270 --> 00:33:29.250
  • to stay forever young because
  • 00:33:29.250 --> 00:33:31.160
  • a lot of us, we want to
  • 00:33:31.160 --> 00:33:32.250
  • stay--we're looking for the
  • 00:33:32.250 --> 00:33:33.250
  • fountain of eternal youth.
  • 00:33:33.250 --> 00:33:34.280
  • You know, you start hitting 50
  • 00:33:34.280 --> 00:33:36.070
  • and you're like, "Okay, I've got
  • 00:33:36.070 --> 00:33:37.180
  • you want to drag this out as
  • 00:33:40.030 --> 00:33:41.040
  • long as you can.
  • 00:33:41.040 --> 00:33:42.080
  • And so, the deal is though a lot
  • 00:33:42.080 --> 00:33:44.120
  • of us think by staying forever
  • 00:33:44.120 --> 00:33:45.160
  • young is if we put some extra
  • 00:33:45.160 --> 00:33:46.190
  • wrinkle cream on our faces or,
  • 00:33:46.190 --> 00:33:48.090
  • you know, kind of get a job done
  • 00:33:48.090 --> 00:33:49.220
  • somewhere that maybe we're gonna
  • 00:33:49.220 --> 00:33:51.220
  • look perky and young.
  • 00:33:51.220 --> 00:33:52.200
  • But my deal is, I mean, you
  • 00:33:52.200 --> 00:33:54.150
  • knock yourself out, do whatever
  • 00:33:54.150 --> 00:33:55.040
  • you need to do but that's not
  • 00:33:55.040 --> 00:33:56.170
  • what's gonna keep you young.
  • 00:33:56.170 --> 00:33:57.200
  • Youthfulness has nothing to do
  • 00:33:57.200 --> 00:33:59.260
  • with the wrinkles on your skin,
  • 00:33:59.260 --> 00:34:02.070
  • but it's got--or the age that
  • 00:34:02.070 --> 00:34:04.050
  • your birthday says.
  • 00:34:04.050 --> 00:34:06.110
  • But it's got to do everything
  • 00:34:06.110 --> 00:34:07.170
  • with the condition of your
  • 00:34:07.170 --> 00:34:08.030
  • heart.
  • 00:34:08.030 --> 00:34:08.260
  • The Bible says, "Those that wait
  • 00:34:08.260 --> 00:34:09.270
  • upon the Lord shall renew their
  • 00:34:09.270 --> 00:34:11.130
  • strength, will mount up on wings
  • 00:34:11.130 --> 00:34:12.240
  • like eagles, will run and not
  • 00:34:12.240 --> 00:34:14.240
  • grow weary, will walk and not
  • 00:34:14.240 --> 00:34:16.280
  • faint."
  • 00:34:16.280 --> 00:34:17.220
  • And so, I believe you can run
  • 00:34:17.220 --> 00:34:18.250
  • and not grow weary.
  • 00:34:18.250 --> 00:34:20.100
  • And but we look to preserve what
  • 00:34:20.100 --> 00:34:22.260
  • can only be renewed.
  • 00:34:22.260 --> 00:34:24.020
  • And I think I spoke a lot about,
  • 00:34:24.020 --> 00:34:25.210
  • why don't we allow
  • 00:34:25.210 --> 00:34:26.070
  • the Holy Spirit to renew
  • 00:34:26.070 --> 00:34:27.070
  • internally the things that will
  • 00:34:27.070 --> 00:34:28.230
  • keep us young instead of just
  • 00:34:28.230 --> 00:34:30.160
  • exclusively focusing on what we
  • 00:34:30.160 --> 00:34:32.130
  • try to preserve externally?
  • 00:34:32.130 --> 00:34:34.110
  • And so, in the midst of all of
  • 00:34:34.110 --> 00:34:35.180
  • that, I talked about resets.
  • 00:34:35.180 --> 00:34:37.230
  • You know, sometimes you gotta
  • 00:34:37.230 --> 00:34:38.150
  • reset your phone if you've got
  • 00:34:38.150 --> 00:34:39.140
  • too many apps open.
  • 00:34:39.140 --> 00:34:40.160
  • A lot of us, we're walking
  • 00:34:40.160 --> 00:34:41.120
  • around life with way too many
  • 00:34:41.120 --> 00:34:42.090
  • apps open and we're like,
  • 00:34:42.090 --> 00:34:43.130
  • "Why isn't my phone working?
  • 00:34:43.130 --> 00:34:44.150
  • Why can't I download?"
  • 00:34:44.150 --> 00:34:45.280
  • And so, if you close some of
  • 00:34:45.280 --> 00:34:47.110
  • your apps, you can download from
  • 00:34:47.110 --> 00:34:48.280
  • heaven and you can keep moving
  • 00:34:48.280 --> 00:34:50.040
  • forward.
  • 00:34:50.040 --> 00:34:50.220
  • So, I'm trying to get people to
  • 00:34:50.220 --> 00:34:52.080
  • close some apps or maybe
  • 00:34:52.080 --> 00:34:53.230
  • sometimes you've just gotta do a
  • 00:34:53.230 --> 00:34:54.250
  • hard reset on your computer, you
  • 00:34:54.250 --> 00:34:56.110
  • know, basically wipe that hard
  • 00:34:56.110 --> 00:34:58.070
  • drive clean and start all over
  • 00:34:58.070 --> 00:34:59.130
  • again.
  • 00:34:59.130 --> 00:35:00.190
  • And you do that by really
  • 00:35:00.190 --> 00:35:02.270
  • resetting your heart, your soul,
  • 00:35:02.270 --> 00:35:04.210
  • your mind.
  • 00:35:04.210 --> 00:35:05.100
  • Jesus says, "Love the Lord your
  • 00:35:05.100 --> 00:35:06.010
  • God with all your heart, soul,
  • 00:35:06.010 --> 00:35:07.050
  • mind, and then you're able to
  • 00:35:07.050 --> 00:35:08.160
  • love your neighbor as you love
  • 00:35:08.160 --> 00:35:09.160
  • yourself."
  • 00:35:09.160 --> 00:35:10.110
  • And so, we talked a lot about
  • 00:35:10.110 --> 00:35:11.190
  • your internal heart reset.
  • 00:35:11.190 --> 00:35:13.000
  • What's the condition of your
  • 00:35:13.000 --> 00:35:13.180
  • heart?
  • 00:35:13.180 --> 00:35:14.030
  • Is it toxic?
  • 00:35:14.030 --> 00:35:14.220
  • Is it free?
  • 00:35:14.220 --> 00:35:16.020
  • How's your soul?
  • 00:35:16.020 --> 00:35:16.240
  • You know, I came from an abuse
  • 00:35:16.240 --> 00:35:17.210
  • background.
  • 00:35:17.210 --> 00:35:19.000
  • I was left in a hospital unnamed
  • 00:35:19.000 --> 00:35:20.250
  • and unwanted when I was born.
  • 00:35:20.250 --> 00:35:22.010
  • So, there was a lot of rejection
  • 00:35:22.010 --> 00:35:23.100
  • issues, a lot of abandonment
  • 00:35:23.100 --> 00:35:24.180
  • issues, a lot of brokenness, and
  • 00:35:24.180 --> 00:35:26.240
  • bitterness, and unforgiveness,
  • 00:35:26.240 --> 00:35:28.120
  • and shame, and guilt,
  • 00:35:28.120 --> 00:35:29.200
  • and condemnation, and anger.
  • 00:35:29.200 --> 00:35:31.270
  • And so, when I came to Christ,
  • 00:35:31.270 --> 00:35:33.070
  • my spirit was born again,
  • 00:35:33.070 --> 00:35:34.170
  • but my soul was a mess.
  • 00:35:34.170 --> 00:35:36.030
  • So, what is it to have a
  • 00:35:36.030 --> 00:35:37.160
  • prosperous soul and a healthy
  • 00:35:37.160 --> 00:35:38.190
  • soul?
  • 00:35:38.190 --> 00:35:39.040
  • And then, of course, renewing
  • 00:35:39.040 --> 00:35:40.090
  • your mind, which is the key to
  • 00:35:40.090 --> 00:35:42.200
  • all of our breakthroughs as
  • 00:35:42.200 --> 00:35:43.270
  • Christians.
  • 00:35:43.270 --> 00:35:44.120
  • So, I talked a lot about that
  • 00:35:44.120 --> 00:35:45.220
  • and then I talked a lot about
  • 00:35:45.220 --> 00:35:47.050
  • what it takes to fulfill destiny
  • 00:35:47.050 --> 00:35:48.120
  • because people look at me today
  • 00:35:48.120 --> 00:35:49.200
  • and they go, "Oh wow, look what
  • 00:35:49.200 --> 00:35:50.270
  • you're doing with A-21 or look
  • 00:35:50.270 --> 00:35:52.010
  • what you're doing with Propel.
  • 00:35:52.010 --> 00:35:52.280
  • And you've got this global
  • 00:35:52.280 --> 00:35:54.120
  • impact."
  • 00:35:54.120 --> 00:35:55.060
  • They didn't know me when you
  • 00:35:55.060 --> 00:35:56.090
  • knew me.
  • 00:35:56.090 --> 00:35:57.020
  • And, you know, I was driving in
  • 00:35:57.020 --> 00:35:59.090
  • my car to Wagga Wagga, and I
  • 00:35:59.090 --> 00:36:01.100
  • just got a note from someone
  • 00:36:01.100 --> 00:36:02.230
  • where I'd stayed in their house
  • 00:36:02.230 --> 00:36:04.060
  • and slept on an air mattress
  • 00:36:04.060 --> 00:36:05.110
  • that deflated on the floor,
  • 00:36:05.110 --> 00:36:06.170
  • you know,
  • 00:36:06.170 --> 00:36:07.020
  • with 3 kids under 5 in the room.
  • 00:36:07.020 --> 00:36:08.130
  • That'll get you ready for
  • 00:36:08.130 --> 00:36:09.030
  • a meeting.
  • 00:36:09.030 --> 00:36:09.190
  • But, you know, so it was
  • 00:36:09.190 --> 00:36:11.090
  • like--but coming back to Sydney
  • 00:36:11.090 --> 00:36:14.000
  • was astounding because a whole
  • 00:36:14.000 --> 00:36:15.060
  • lot of people from Australia
  • 00:36:15.060 --> 00:36:16.180
  • that remember me back then when,
  • 00:36:16.180 --> 00:36:18.010
  • you know, I would be driving and
  • 00:36:18.010 --> 00:36:19.190
  • I didn't even have any money.
  • 00:36:19.190 --> 00:36:20.190
  • I'd get a boiled rice with sweet
  • 00:36:20.190 --> 00:36:22.230
  • and sour sauce from the local
  • 00:36:22.230 --> 00:36:23.250
  • Chinese shop because every
  • 00:36:23.250 --> 00:36:25.020
  • Australian country town's got
  • 00:36:25.020 --> 00:36:26.000
  • a Chinese shop.
  • 00:36:26.000 --> 00:36:26.210
  • I couldn't afford the sweet and
  • 00:36:26.210 --> 00:36:27.150
  • sour meat, but I could do
  • 00:36:27.150 --> 00:36:29.150
  • the sweet and sour sauce.
  • 00:36:29.150 --> 00:36:30.110
  • So, for 2 bucks, I could get
  • 00:36:30.110 --> 00:36:31.210
  • the rice with the sauce.
  • 00:36:31.210 --> 00:36:32.140
  • That's what I lived on and so I
  • 00:36:32.140 --> 00:36:33.130
  • didn't quite look as buff as
  • 00:36:33.130 --> 00:36:34.270
  • I do today.
  • 00:36:34.270 --> 00:36:35.280
  • I was looking for excuse to just
  • 00:36:35.280 --> 00:36:37.140
  • flex on camera.
  • 00:36:37.140 --> 00:36:38.110
  • And so, you know, but in the
  • 00:36:38.110 --> 00:36:40.040
  • midst of it all, I looked worse
  • 00:36:40.040 --> 00:36:41.160
  • at 25 than I do at 50.
  • 00:36:41.160 --> 00:36:42.260
  • But the deal was I was
  • 00:36:42.260 --> 00:36:44.080
  • passionate.
  • 00:36:44.080 --> 00:36:45.030
  • And I was driving and you
  • 00:36:45.030 --> 00:36:46.110
  • wouldn't remember me for those
  • 00:36:46.110 --> 00:36:47.090
  • of you--I would just go from
  • 00:36:47.090 --> 00:36:48.050
  • country town to country town.
  • 00:36:48.050 --> 00:36:49.110
  • In Australia if you're familiar
  • 00:36:49.110 --> 00:36:50.190
  • at all, I'd go from Wagga Wagga
  • 00:36:50.190 --> 00:36:52.120
  • to Noranda, or to Dubbo to
  • 00:36:52.120 --> 00:36:53.260
  • Young, to Forbes to, you know,
  • 00:36:53.260 --> 00:36:56.080
  • up to Lismore, Tamworth, all of
  • 00:36:56.080 --> 00:36:59.050
  • those places.
  • 00:36:59.050 --> 00:36:59.260
  • I could count 'em.
  • 00:36:59.260 --> 00:37:01.090
  • You know, if I look at an
  • 00:37:01.090 --> 00:37:02.090
  • Australian map when they're
  • 00:37:02.090 --> 00:37:03.020
  • doing the weather report,
  • 00:37:03.020 --> 00:37:03.250
  • I'm thinking I've been to all
  • 00:37:03.250 --> 00:37:04.190
  • those cities.
  • 00:37:04.190 --> 00:37:05.220
  • I've been all over the country,
  • 00:37:05.220 --> 00:37:07.210
  • country towns speaking to
  • 00:37:07.210 --> 00:37:09.080
  • 20 kids, speaking to 50 kids,
  • 00:37:09.080 --> 00:37:11.050
  • speaking to 30 kids, talking
  • 00:37:11.050 --> 00:37:12.090
  • about--doing what I do now.
  • 00:37:12.090 --> 00:37:14.000
  • It's just that the arenas have
  • 00:37:14.000 --> 00:37:15.050
  • gotten bigger, but I'm not doing
  • 00:37:15.050 --> 00:37:16.040
  • anything different.
  • 00:37:16.040 --> 00:37:16.190
  • That's what I try to tell people
  • 00:37:16.190 --> 00:37:17.210
  • is I've been doing this for
  • 00:37:17.210 --> 00:37:19.000
  • 30 years.
  • 00:37:19.000 --> 00:37:20.230
  • It's just you didn't know where
  • 00:37:20.230 --> 00:37:21.180
  • I was before.
  • 00:37:21.180 --> 00:37:22.180
  • People are like, "Whoa, what an
  • 00:37:22.180 --> 00:37:23.230
  • overnight success."
  • 00:37:23.230 --> 00:37:24.180
  • I'm thinking, it was a flipping
  • 00:37:24.180 --> 00:37:25.180
  • long night.
  • 00:37:25.180 --> 00:37:26.080
  • And so, and, you know, I never
  • 00:37:26.080 --> 00:37:28.120
  • even knew this was in my future.
  • 00:37:28.120 --> 00:37:29.240
  • I'm just doing what I've always
  • 00:37:29.240 --> 00:37:30.190
  • loved to do, tell people about
  • 00:37:30.190 --> 00:37:31.230
  • Jesus and show and turn people
  • 00:37:31.230 --> 00:37:34.200
  • to the Bible.
  • 00:37:34.200 --> 00:37:35.270
  • And so, in the midst of all of
  • 00:37:35.270 --> 00:37:37.070
  • that, I think that final message
  • 00:37:37.070 --> 00:37:39.150
  • and why it's resonated with
  • 00:37:39.150 --> 00:37:40.200
  • people so much is look, from
  • 00:37:40.200 --> 00:37:42.070
  • Scripture in the Book of Exodus
  • 00:37:42.070 --> 00:37:43.200
  • when the Lord brought the
  • 00:37:43.200 --> 00:37:44.190
  • children of Israel out of
  • 00:37:44.190 --> 00:37:46.000
  • bondage, out of slavery and took
  • 00:37:46.000 --> 00:37:47.230
  • them into Canaan, into
  • 00:37:47.230 --> 00:37:48.260
  • the Promised Land, he did it by
  • 00:37:48.260 --> 00:37:50.230
  • taking them the long way around,
  • 00:37:50.230 --> 00:37:52.080
  • step by step, little by little.
  • 00:37:52.080 --> 00:37:54.090
  • And we want everything in our
  • 00:37:54.090 --> 00:37:55.170
  • microwave culture.
  • 00:37:55.170 --> 00:37:56.170
  • We want everything fast.
  • 00:37:56.170 --> 00:37:57.290
  • Because of social media and just
  • 00:37:58.080 --> 00:38:01.100
  • accelerated celebrity culture,
  • 00:38:01.100 --> 00:38:03.140
  • we think everyone's an
  • 00:38:03.140 --> 00:38:04.100
  • overnight--we're all looking to
  • 00:38:04.100 --> 00:38:05.190
  • be the next "The Voice,"
  • 00:38:05.190 --> 00:38:06.230
  • the next superstar.
  • 00:38:06.230 --> 00:38:07.290
  • And God goes, "Knock yourself
  • 00:38:07.290 --> 00:38:10.050
  • out.
  • 00:38:10.050 --> 00:38:10.210
  • There's only one superstar,
  • 00:38:10.210 --> 00:38:11.260
  • it's Jesus."
  • 00:38:11.260 --> 00:38:12.230
  • And we have to be conformed and
  • 00:38:12.230 --> 00:38:14.280
  • transformed to his image, and
  • 00:38:14.280 --> 00:38:16.150
  • the process is what makes us
  • 00:38:16.150 --> 00:38:18.090
  • conformed to his image.
  • 00:38:18.090 --> 00:38:19.280
  • What we do for him is almost
  • 00:38:19.280 --> 00:38:21.020
  • like a by-product.
  • 00:38:21.020 --> 00:38:21.260
  • He'll do it with or without us.
  • 00:38:21.260 --> 00:38:22.250
  • He's sovereign.
  • 00:38:22.250 --> 00:38:23.150
  • He's quite fine.
  • 00:38:23.150 --> 00:38:25.040
  • But he takes us and allows us
  • 00:38:25.040 --> 00:38:27.180
  • to co-labor with him.
  • 00:38:27.180 --> 00:38:29.130
  • It's such a great privilege in
  • 00:38:29.130 --> 00:38:30.150
  • the kingdom of God that we get
  • 00:38:30.150 --> 00:38:31.160
  • to be co-laborers with God.
  • 00:38:31.160 --> 00:38:32.200
  • Most people want to be a co-star
  • 00:38:32.200 --> 00:38:34.000
  • with Jesus, not a co-laborer.
  • 00:38:34.000 --> 00:38:35.170
  • But if you're a co-laborer,
  • 00:38:35.170 --> 00:38:36.200
  • you'll go the long way round,
  • 00:38:36.200 --> 00:38:38.140
  • you'll do it step by step, and
  • 00:38:38.140 --> 00:38:39.170
  • you'll do it little by little
  • 00:38:39.170 --> 00:38:40.130
  • because you're conformed and
  • 00:38:40.130 --> 00:38:41.070
  • transformed to his image.
  • 00:38:41.070 --> 00:38:42.140
  • And the goal is him.
  • 00:38:42.140 --> 00:38:43.200
  • The goal is Jesus.
  • 00:38:43.200 --> 00:38:45.010
  • And so, I had that when I was in
  • 00:38:45.010 --> 00:38:46.250
  • Wagga Wagga and nobody knew me
  • 00:38:46.250 --> 00:38:48.120
  • and nobody was filming me.
  • 00:38:48.120 --> 00:38:49.100
  • And just because now it's
  • 00:38:49.100 --> 00:38:50.170
  • arenas, and it's A-21,
  • 00:38:50.170 --> 00:38:52.020
  • and it's government departments,
  • 00:38:52.020 --> 00:38:53.020
  • and UN meetings,
  • 00:38:53.020 --> 00:38:53.280
  • and state departments,
  • 00:38:53.280 --> 00:38:55.090
  • it sounds glamorous but it's
  • 00:38:55.090 --> 00:38:57.180
  • just a little bit more under
  • 00:38:57.180 --> 00:38:58.150
  • the spotlight.
  • 00:38:58.150 --> 00:38:59.030
  • I thank God for my years of
  • 00:38:59.030 --> 00:39:00.240
  • anonymity and obscurity because
  • 00:39:00.240 --> 00:39:02.160
  • that has allowed the light of
  • 00:39:02.160 --> 00:39:03.200
  • Christ to develop in me.
  • 00:39:03.200 --> 00:39:05.070
  • What happens with the generation
  • 00:39:05.070 --> 00:39:06.080
  • if we try to fast track it and
  • 00:39:06.080 --> 00:39:07.250
  • not go step by step, little by
  • 00:39:07.250 --> 00:39:09.000
  • little and the long way around,
  • 00:39:09.000 --> 00:39:10.240
  • you're quickly, rapidly promoted
  • 00:39:10.240 --> 00:39:13.000
  • to a place often where your
  • 00:39:13.000 --> 00:39:14.040
  • character can't keep you.
  • 00:39:14.040 --> 00:39:15.160
  • And if the spotlight that is on
  • 00:39:15.160 --> 00:39:16.220
  • you is greater than the light of
  • 00:39:16.220 --> 00:39:17.250
  • Christ is formed within you,
  • 00:39:17.250 --> 00:39:19.120
  • then you will collapse because
  • 00:39:19.120 --> 00:39:20.260
  • if there's a disparity between
  • 00:39:20.260 --> 00:39:21.230
  • your inner world and your
  • 00:39:21.230 --> 00:39:22.220
  • external world, your world will
  • 00:39:22.220 --> 00:39:24.000
  • collapse.
  • 00:39:24.000 --> 00:39:24.240
  • And so, God knows what he's
  • 00:39:24.240 --> 00:39:25.250
  • doing.
  • 00:39:25.250 --> 00:39:26.110
  • So often, you're frustrated
  • 00:39:26.110 --> 00:39:28.060
  • because you're thinking, "It's
  • 00:39:28.060 --> 00:39:28.250
  • taking too long.
  • 00:39:28.250 --> 00:39:29.200
  • And God, have you forsaken me
  • 00:39:29.200 --> 00:39:31.000
  • and have you forgotten me?"
  • 00:39:31.000 --> 00:39:32.160
  • But in that place, you learn to
  • 00:39:32.160 --> 00:39:33.200
  • trust the character and
  • 00:39:33.200 --> 00:39:34.200
  • the nature of God.
  • 00:39:34.200 --> 00:39:35.090
  • God is good.
  • 00:39:35.090 --> 00:39:35.250
  • God does good.
  • 00:39:35.250 --> 00:39:36.170
  • God will work all things
  • 00:39:36.170 --> 00:39:37.170
  • together for good.
  • 00:39:37.170 --> 00:39:38.270
  • It's just that his timing,
  • 00:39:38.270 --> 00:39:40.180
  • he's never late.
  • 00:39:40.180 --> 00:39:42.110
  • He's never early either.
  • 00:39:42.110 --> 00:39:43.130
  • And so, you know,
  • 00:39:43.130 --> 00:39:44.130
  • he's an on-time God.
  • 00:39:44.130 --> 00:39:45.200
  • God is both a God of time and a
  • 00:39:45.200 --> 00:39:48.070
  • God of timing, and his timing is
  • 00:39:48.070 --> 00:39:50.010
  • perfect.
  • 00:39:50.010 --> 00:39:50.180
  • Can I add, it's never when I
  • 00:39:50.180 --> 00:39:52.190
  • want it to be and it's always
  • 00:39:52.190 --> 00:39:54.020
  • extremely frustrating.
  • 00:39:54.020 --> 00:39:56.100
  • And I wish I had done it
  • 00:39:56.100 --> 00:39:57.270
  • perfectly.
  • 00:39:57.270 --> 00:39:58.260
  • You probably almost, more than
  • 00:39:58.260 --> 00:40:00.090
  • anyone on earth, has heard more
  • 00:40:00.090 --> 00:40:01.270
  • of my whinging complaining.
  • 00:40:01.270 --> 00:40:03.030
  • I've been a bit like the
  • 00:40:03.030 --> 00:40:03.280
  • Israelites in the wilderness and
  • 00:40:03.280 --> 00:40:05.010
  • you've heard many a phone call,
  • 00:40:05.010 --> 00:40:06.210
  • murmuring, grumbling,
  • 00:40:06.210 --> 00:40:07.220
  • and complaining.
  • 00:40:07.220 --> 00:40:08.110
  • And then God's like,
  • 00:40:08.110 --> 00:40:09.160
  • "Take another lap, Chris.
  • 00:40:09.160 --> 00:40:10.210
  • Enjoy Mount Sinai because until
  • 00:40:10.210 --> 00:40:11.290
  • you learn to deal with this--"
  • 00:40:11.290 --> 00:40:13.290
  • And so, but in that, his
  • 00:40:13.290 --> 00:40:16.110
  • character is formed in me.
  • 00:40:16.110 --> 00:40:17.140
  • His strength is formed in me,
  • 00:40:17.140 --> 00:40:18.290
  • which means that when he places
  • 00:40:18.290 --> 00:40:20.150
  • me in a place, I'm more likely
  • 00:40:20.150 --> 00:40:22.180
  • to be able to stay there and
  • 00:40:22.180 --> 00:40:23.230
  • have the character to keep me
  • 00:40:23.230 --> 00:40:24.240
  • there, you know, which is very
  • 00:40:24.240 --> 00:40:25.220
  • important to God because he
  • 00:40:25.220 --> 00:40:26.190
  • doesn't wants us just to start
  • 00:40:26.190 --> 00:40:27.160
  • well, he wants us to finish
  • 00:40:27.160 --> 00:40:28.200
  • - Christine: I talk very
  • 00:40:32.150 --> 00:40:33.010
  • candidly, different stories
  • 00:40:33.010 --> 00:40:34.100
  • about even the shame of when I
  • 00:40:34.100 --> 00:40:36.090
  • would get high grades at school,
  • 00:40:36.090 --> 00:40:37.250
  • but I came from a culture that
  • 00:40:37.250 --> 00:40:38.240
  • didn't appreciate smart women
  • 00:40:38.240 --> 00:40:40.070
  • 'cause it was like, "Christine,
  • 00:40:40.070 --> 00:40:41.010
  • no man will never want to marry
  • 00:40:41.010 --> 00:40:41.200
  • you."
  • 00:40:41.200 --> 00:40:42.110
  • And how I would change my grades
  • 00:40:42.110 --> 00:40:43.200
  • from top grades to bottom grades
  • 00:40:43.200 --> 00:40:45.120
  • so that I wouldn't get the
  • 00:40:45.120 --> 00:40:46.020
  • - Kylie: And I will say the
  • 00:40:53.170 --> 00:40:54.040
  • last 20, 25 years of watching
  • 00:40:54.040 --> 00:40:55.280
  • you actually labor very hard to
  • 00:40:56.050 --> 00:40:59.050
  • keep your heart right, to renew
  • 00:40:59.050 --> 00:41:00.130
  • your mind, to renew your spirit,
  • 00:41:00.130 --> 00:41:01.220
  • everything that you worked and
  • 00:41:01.220 --> 00:41:03.130
  • labored hard at it.
  • 00:41:03.130 --> 00:41:04.080
  • And in your new book,
  • 00:41:04.080 --> 00:41:05.120
  • "Unashamed," you've gone into
  • 00:41:05.120 --> 00:41:06.240
  • a lot more of that.
  • 00:41:06.240 --> 00:41:07.250
  • - Christine: Very much so.
  • 00:41:07.250 --> 00:41:08.190
  • I feel like I had to wait
  • 00:41:08.190 --> 00:41:09.260
  • 50 years to write that book.
  • 00:41:09.260 --> 00:41:10.260
  • That book is, you know,
  • 00:41:10.260 --> 00:41:13.120
  • kind of my story.
  • 00:41:13.120 --> 00:41:14.160
  • It certainly, it is the most
  • 00:41:14.160 --> 00:41:16.030
  • candid book of my life.
  • 00:41:16.030 --> 00:41:18.270
  • It certainly, I would say, has
  • 00:41:18.270 --> 00:41:20.110
  • got almost all of my testimony.
  • 00:41:20.110 --> 00:41:21.260
  • There's probably one or two
  • 00:41:21.260 --> 00:41:22.230
  • stories that I didn't tell yet
  • 00:41:22.230 --> 00:41:23.290
  • in there that are not in there
  • 00:41:23.290 --> 00:41:25.170
  • I'm like, you know, it's the
  • 00:41:27.280 --> 00:41:28.270
  • story of my life, put it out
  • 00:41:28.270 --> 00:41:29.190
  • there for everybody.
  • 00:41:29.190 --> 00:41:30.230
  • But it does deal with the
  • 00:41:30.230 --> 00:41:31.230
  • greatest struggle of my life,
  • 00:41:31.230 --> 00:41:33.240
  • which has been the struggle to
  • 00:41:33.240 --> 00:41:35.010
  • overcome shame.
  • 00:41:35.010 --> 00:41:35.280
  • And, you know, it certainly,
  • 00:41:35.280 --> 00:41:37.050
  • it's not a book about abuse.
  • 00:41:37.050 --> 00:41:38.090
  • It's a book about shame because
  • 00:41:38.090 --> 00:41:39.130
  • shame hits the most successful
  • 00:41:39.130 --> 00:41:40.170
  • people as well as, you know,
  • 00:41:40.170 --> 00:41:41.270
  • the most broken people.
  • 00:41:41.270 --> 00:41:43.020
  • And I talk very candidly,
  • 00:41:43.020 --> 00:41:45.030
  • different stories about even
  • 00:41:45.030 --> 00:41:46.230
  • the shame of when I would get
  • 00:41:46.230 --> 00:41:47.270
  • high grades at school, but I
  • 00:41:47.270 --> 00:41:49.040
  • came from a culture that didn't
  • 00:41:49.040 --> 00:41:50.060
  • appreciate smart women 'cause
  • 00:41:50.060 --> 00:41:51.210
  • it was like, "Christine, no man
  • 00:41:51.210 --> 00:41:52.150
  • will ever want you to marry
  • 00:41:52.150 --> 00:41:53.090
  • you."
  • 00:41:53.090 --> 00:41:53.240
  • And how I would change my grades
  • 00:41:53.240 --> 00:41:54.290
  • from top grades to bottom grades
  • 00:41:54.290 --> 00:41:56.200
  • so that I wouldn't get the
  • 00:41:56.200 --> 00:41:57.120
  • persecution in there.
  • 00:41:57.120 --> 00:41:59.010
  • I talk very openly about just in
  • 00:41:59.010 --> 00:42:01.160
  • many ways how I felt I had to
  • 00:42:01.160 --> 00:42:02.230
  • dumb myself done to fit in with
  • 00:42:02.230 --> 00:42:04.170
  • other girls and just the shame
  • 00:42:04.170 --> 00:42:06.000
  • of being who God created me to
  • 00:42:06.000 --> 00:42:07.060
  • be, the shame of some of my
  • 00:42:07.060 --> 00:42:09.170
  • failures and mistakes.
  • 00:42:09.170 --> 00:42:10.240
  • And, you know, I tell one story
  • 00:42:10.240 --> 00:42:12.160
  • in there and you would remember
  • 00:42:12.160 --> 00:42:14.100
  • some of the places where I
  • 00:42:14.100 --> 00:42:15.130
  • worked and I was overseeing a
  • 00:42:15.130 --> 00:42:16.200
  • large youth movement and just
  • 00:42:16.200 --> 00:42:18.150
  • how I was so hard on some of my
  • 00:42:18.150 --> 00:42:20.010
  • staff just out of my own
  • 00:42:20.010 --> 00:42:21.200
  • brokenness, you know,
  • 00:42:21.200 --> 00:42:22.150
  • trying to drive people and just
  • 00:42:22.150 --> 00:42:24.100
  • kind of dealing with all of
  • 00:42:24.100 --> 00:42:25.150
  • that.
  • 00:42:25.150 --> 00:42:26.050
  • And so, you know, I tell a lot
  • 00:42:26.050 --> 00:42:27.070
  • of stories, both the good, bad,
  • 00:42:27.070 --> 00:42:28.100
  • and ugly of just where God had
  • 00:42:28.100 --> 00:42:30.170
  • to deal with me.
  • 00:42:30.170 --> 00:42:31.200
  • The first recorded conversation
  • 00:42:31.200 --> 00:42:33.210
  • in Scripture, Kylie, it's
  • 00:42:33.210 --> 00:42:34.160
  • fascinating to me.
  • 00:42:34.160 --> 00:42:35.230
  • The first time God actually has
  • 00:42:35.230 --> 00:42:37.230
  • a conversation with people like
  • 00:42:37.230 --> 00:42:39.100
  • in Genesis chapter 1, he speaks,
  • 00:42:39.100 --> 00:42:40.280
  • you know, "Go forth, multiply,
  • 00:42:40.280 --> 00:42:43.010
  • reproduce."
  • 00:42:43.010 --> 00:42:44.220
  • But where he has when he's
  • 00:42:44.220 --> 00:42:46.180
  • created man in his image,
  • 00:42:46.180 --> 00:42:47.130
  • male and female.
  • 00:42:47.130 --> 00:42:48.040
  • But when he speaks to Adam in
  • 00:42:48.040 --> 00:42:50.260
  • Scripture, the first time he
  • 00:42:50.260 --> 00:42:52.150
  • speaks to him in Genesis 3,
  • 00:42:52.150 --> 00:42:54.100
  • the first thing,
  • 00:42:54.100 --> 00:42:54.280
  • "Adam, where are you?"
  • 00:42:54.280 --> 00:42:56.260
  • First question God asks man.
  • 00:42:56.260 --> 00:42:58.160
  • I mean, how scary is that?
  • 00:42:58.160 --> 00:42:59.200
  • First thing that is recorded is,
  • 00:42:59.200 --> 00:43:02.030
  • "Where are you?
  • 00:43:02.030 --> 00:43:02.270
  • Where'd you go?"
  • 00:43:02.270 --> 00:43:04.070
  • And then the first answer is,
  • 00:43:04.070 --> 00:43:06.190
  • "I was naked, ashamed,
  • 00:43:06.190 --> 00:43:08.170
  • and so I hid."
  • 00:43:08.170 --> 00:43:09.190
  • First conversation is that fear,
  • 00:43:09.190 --> 00:43:12.060
  • shame made us hide from God and
  • 00:43:12.060 --> 00:43:14.120
  • God's been calling us out of
  • 00:43:14.120 --> 00:43:15.260
  • hiding ever since.
  • 00:43:15.260 --> 00:43:17.020
  • And the whole Scripture is about
  • 00:43:17.020 --> 00:43:18.150
  • God calling us out of hiding.
  • 00:43:18.150 --> 00:43:19.260
  • I feel like my journey with
  • 00:43:19.260 --> 00:43:20.290
  • Jesus has been calling me out of
  • 00:43:20.290 --> 00:43:22.170
  • hiding.
  • 00:43:22.170 --> 00:43:23.080
  • "Christine, where are you?"
  • 00:43:23.080 --> 00:43:24.090
  • And because of culture, or
  • 00:43:24.090 --> 00:43:26.140
  • tradition, or things that were
  • 00:43:26.140 --> 00:43:27.290
  • done to me, and abuse,
  • 00:43:27.290 --> 00:43:29.160
  • and my own mistakes,
  • 00:43:29.160 --> 00:43:32.050
  • I've hid most of me.
  • 00:43:32.050 --> 00:43:33.250
  • And so, this book is, how do you
  • 00:43:33.250 --> 00:43:34.290
  • come out of hiding?
  • 00:43:34.290 --> 00:43:36.070
  • And how does God call the
  • 00:43:36.070 --> 00:43:38.030
  • potential out on the inside of
  • 00:43:38.030 --> 00:43:39.010
  • you?
  • 00:43:39.010 --> 00:43:39.260
  • And when you're comfortable just
  • 00:43:39.260 --> 00:43:40.270
  • to be who he made you to be and
  • 00:43:40.270 --> 00:43:42.230
  • that's when you find
  • 00:43:42.230 --> 00:43:43.180
  • fulfillment.
  • 00:43:43.180 --> 00:43:44.150
  • And so, I think in there,
  • 00:43:44.150 --> 00:43:46.120
  • everyone will find their story
  • 00:43:46.120 --> 00:43:47.170
  • in there.
  • 00:43:47.170 --> 00:43:48.020
  • I think it's definitely gonna
  • 00:43:48.020 --> 00:43:48.250
  • take the lid off everyone's
  • 00:43:48.250 --> 00:43:49.220
  • can of worms.
  • 00:43:49.220 --> 00:43:50.120
  • It's like, "Well, I'm fine.
  • 00:43:50.120 --> 00:43:51.240
  • I don't have any shame.
  • 00:43:51.240 --> 00:43:52.220
  • I was never abused."
  • 00:43:52.220 --> 00:43:53.110
  • And I'm like, yeah, you know,
  • 00:43:53.110 --> 00:43:54.150
  • you need to read the book.
  • 00:43:54.150 --> 00:43:55.190
  • And I think you will see.
  • 00:43:55.190 --> 00:43:57.120
  • And it is so positive and it is
  • 00:43:57.120 --> 00:43:58.290
  • so faith filled, but I'm pumped
  • 00:43:58.290 --> 00:44:00.130
  • even about just where it ends.
  • 00:44:00.130 --> 00:44:01.230
  • It's like, come on, let's go
  • 00:44:01.230 --> 00:44:02.170
  • charge the hill because we gotta
  • 00:44:02.170 --> 00:44:04.250
  • come--the devil doesn't want us
  • 00:44:04.250 --> 00:44:07.000
  • to come out of hiding.
  • 00:44:07.000 --> 00:44:07.240
  • He'd always love us to keep a
  • 00:44:07.240 --> 00:44:08.210
  • little bit of ourselves hidden
  • 00:44:08.210 --> 00:44:09.200
  • back.
  • 00:44:09.200 --> 00:44:10.130
  • And so, I think people are gonna
  • 00:44:10.130 --> 00:44:11.240
  • find--from the greatest most
  • 00:44:11.240 --> 00:44:13.210
  • successful person.
  • 00:44:13.210 --> 00:44:14.290
  • And I tell stories of some of
  • 00:44:14.290 --> 00:44:16.130
  • our victims of human trafficking
  • 00:44:16.130 --> 00:44:17.180
  • as well to go okay, whether
  • 00:44:17.180 --> 00:44:18.180
  • you've been beaten down, broken,
  • 00:44:18.180 --> 00:44:21.000
  • wounded, you've failed to the
  • 00:44:21.000 --> 00:44:22.290
  • worst and done things you are so
  • 00:44:22.290 --> 00:44:24.110
  • ashamed of you don't want anyone
  • 00:44:24.110 --> 00:44:25.190
  • to ever find out, or whether
  • 00:44:25.190 --> 00:44:27.170
  • things were done to you that
  • 00:44:27.170 --> 00:44:28.250
  • have caused you shame,
  • 00:44:28.250 --> 00:44:29.140
  • or whether you just, you know,
  • 00:44:29.140 --> 00:44:32.030
  • basically you're so driven and
  • 00:44:32.030 --> 00:44:34.290
  • really the root of that is
  • 00:44:34.290 --> 00:44:35.280
  • shame.
  • 00:44:35.280 --> 00:44:36.140
  • Even if nothing, you're trying
  • 00:44:36.140 --> 00:44:37.130
  • to prove something to who?
  • 00:44:37.130 --> 00:44:38.200
  • I think this is gonna help you
  • 00:44:38.200 --> 00:44:40.090
  • go, "I'm okay.
  • 00:44:40.090 --> 00:44:42.190
  • Who God made me to be is okay,
  • 00:44:42.190 --> 00:44:44.150
  • and the greatest gift I can give
  • 00:44:44.150 --> 00:44:45.260
  • to the earth is to be who God
  • 00:44:45.260 --> 00:44:48.040
  • made me to be," which is really
  • 00:44:48.040 --> 00:44:49.090
  • - Christine: We're all called
  • 00:44:53.180 --> 00:44:54.060
  • to something and the message of
  • 00:44:54.060 --> 00:44:56.000
  • Sisterhood is that we're not all
  • 00:44:56.000 --> 00:44:57.250
  • meant to do the same thing, but
  • 00:44:57.250 --> 00:44:58.290
  • we're meant to compliment and
  • 00:44:58.290 --> 00:45:00.040
  • help one another.
  • 00:45:00.040 --> 00:45:01.050
  • We are all called to put
  • 00:45:01.050 --> 00:45:02.180
  • Christ first.
  • 00:45:02.180 --> 00:45:03.180
  • How that translates looks
  • 00:45:03.180 --> 00:45:05.230
  • - Kylie: So, we've got you
  • 00:45:12.240 --> 00:45:13.110
  • rescuing slaves, helping women
  • 00:45:13.110 --> 00:45:15.140
  • in leadership.
  • 00:45:15.140 --> 00:45:16.030
  • How does that relate just to the
  • 00:45:16.030 --> 00:45:18.210
  • everyday woman who is at home
  • 00:45:18.210 --> 00:45:20.010
  • with her children?
  • 00:45:20.010 --> 00:45:20.290
  • - Christine: Look, I can relate
  • 00:45:20.290 --> 00:45:21.260
  • to this because often people
  • 00:45:21.260 --> 00:45:23.230
  • will say that--you know, I've
  • 00:45:23.230 --> 00:45:24.160
  • got two kids of my own too so I
  • 00:45:24.160 --> 00:45:26.200
  • love that but I'm married to a
  • 00:45:26.200 --> 00:45:28.070
  • children.
  • 00:45:31.150 --> 00:45:32.010
  • His mother had 15 full-term
  • 00:45:32.010 --> 00:45:33.130
  • pregnancies in 17 years.
  • 00:45:33.130 --> 00:45:36.010
  • And there was like no television
  • 00:45:36.010 --> 00:45:38.080
  • in Ballarat where he was born
  • 00:45:38.080 --> 00:45:39.260
  • evidently.
  • 00:45:39.260 --> 00:45:40.140
  • And, you know, his mother would
  • 00:45:40.140 --> 00:45:42.070
  • just kind of look at me, and I'm
  • 00:45:42.070 --> 00:45:43.220
  • not sure that I impressed her
  • 00:45:43.220 --> 00:45:44.190
  • that much rescuing slaves and,
  • 00:45:44.190 --> 00:45:46.040
  • you know, helping to empower
  • 00:45:46.040 --> 00:45:47.230
  • women in leadership.
  • 00:45:47.230 --> 00:45:49.060
  • She's like, "You know,
  • 00:45:49.060 --> 00:45:49.210
  • I'm trying to survive 'cause she
  • 00:45:49.210 --> 00:45:50.200
  • would say, "Christine, you try
  • 00:45:50.200 --> 00:45:51.260
  • putting food on the table for
  • 00:45:51.260 --> 00:45:53.010
  • 15 kids every night," and just
  • 00:45:53.010 --> 00:45:55.020
  • popping out that many is pretty
  • 00:45:55.020 --> 00:45:56.060
  • amazing, if you ask me.
  • 00:45:56.060 --> 00:45:57.220
  • And so, you know, does this
  • 00:45:57.220 --> 00:45:58.290
  • message connect to everyone?
  • 00:45:58.290 --> 00:46:01.160
  • Absolutely.
  • 00:46:01.160 --> 00:46:02.070
  • My thing is that what you're
  • 00:46:02.070 --> 00:46:04.090
  • actually doing, the task is not
  • 00:46:05.210 --> 00:46:08.210
  • what qualifies you to be part of
  • 00:46:08.210 --> 00:46:10.110
  • the Sisterhood, whether you're a
  • 00:46:10.110 --> 00:46:11.050
  • stay-at-home mum like my
  • 00:46:11.050 --> 00:46:12.060
  • mother-in-law, you know,
  • 00:46:12.060 --> 00:46:14.080
  • 14 children that she raised,
  • 00:46:14.210 --> 00:46:17.210
  • absolutely amazing.
  • 00:46:17.210 --> 00:46:19.190
  • I think that woman was
  • 00:46:19.190 --> 00:46:21.130
  • remarkable.
  • 00:46:21.130 --> 00:46:22.110
  • I think you're raising world
  • 00:46:22.110 --> 00:46:23.190
  • changers and you've gotta see
  • 00:46:23.190 --> 00:46:25.100
  • where you are.
  • 00:46:25.100 --> 00:46:26.270
  • Here's my bottom line,
  • 00:46:26.270 --> 00:46:27.160
  • when I say activating women in
  • 00:46:27.160 --> 00:46:28.290
  • leadership, all of us that are
  • 00:46:28.290 --> 00:46:30.250
  • Christ followers--so whether
  • 00:46:30.250 --> 00:46:32.030
  • you're a stay-at-home mother
  • 00:46:32.030 --> 00:46:33.030
  • home schooling kids,
  • 00:46:33.030 --> 00:46:34.120
  • or whether you're a corporate
  • 00:46:34.120 --> 00:46:35.150
  • CEO, if we are followers of
  • 00:46:35.150 --> 00:46:37.120
  • Christ, our primary goal is to
  • 00:46:37.120 --> 00:46:40.050
  • lead other people to Jesus,
  • 00:46:40.050 --> 00:46:41.250
  • that's what we all should be
  • 00:46:41.250 --> 00:46:42.180
  • doing.
  • 00:46:42.180 --> 00:46:43.030
  • Doesn't matter who you are.
  • 00:46:43.030 --> 00:46:44.020
  • Therefore, that actually makes
  • 00:46:44.020 --> 00:46:45.020
  • all of us leaders in some
  • 00:46:45.020 --> 00:46:46.090
  • capacity.
  • 00:46:46.090 --> 00:46:47.190
  • So, my thing is saying if you
  • 00:46:47.190 --> 00:46:49.230
  • are a stay-at-home mum,
  • 00:46:49.230 --> 00:46:51.170
  • I love the stay-at-home mums at
  • 00:46:51.170 --> 00:46:53.020
  • my daughter's school because a
  • 00:46:53.020 --> 00:46:55.070
  • lot of those mums volunteer at
  • 00:46:55.070 --> 00:46:56.250
  • the kids' school.
  • 00:46:56.250 --> 00:46:57.170
  • So, I see Sophia when I take
  • 00:46:57.170 --> 00:46:59.090
  • her into school and she
  • 00:46:59.090 --> 00:47:01.020
  • runs--there's this mum in
  • 00:47:01.020 --> 00:47:02.010
  • particular.
  • 00:47:02.010 --> 00:47:02.170
  • She's been serving 2 days a week
  • 00:47:02.170 --> 00:47:04.260
  • in Sophia's school,
  • 00:47:04.260 --> 00:47:06.050
  • comes and volunteers, you know,
  • 00:47:06.050 --> 00:47:07.020
  • in the homeroom.
  • 00:47:07.020 --> 00:47:07.280
  • And on the first day at school,
  • 00:47:07.280 --> 00:47:10.040
  • I dropped Sophia off and she
  • 00:47:10.040 --> 00:47:12.230
  • goes running to this mum,
  • 00:47:12.230 --> 00:47:14.240
  • gives her this big hug.
  • 00:47:14.240 --> 00:47:16.050
  • The mum's almost crying.
  • 00:47:16.050 --> 00:47:17.070
  • She loves Sophia.
  • 00:47:17.070 --> 00:47:18.000
  • I started crying because I
  • 00:47:18.000 --> 00:47:20.160
  • thought, this is awesome.
  • 00:47:20.160 --> 00:47:21.210
  • Now, some mothers would kind of
  • 00:47:21.210 --> 00:47:22.230
  • go, "Oh Christine, you know,
  • 00:47:22.230 --> 00:47:24.130
  • you should be insecure because
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  • she loves this mum."
  • 00:47:25.100 --> 00:47:26.130
  • I went up to this mum and I
  • 00:47:26.130 --> 00:47:27.120
  • said, "I want to thank you.
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  • I want to thank you that you
  • 00:47:28.240 --> 00:47:30.070
  • didn't just stop because you had
  • 00:47:30.070 --> 00:47:32.070
  • kids but you saw this as your
  • 00:47:32.070 --> 00:47:33.180
  • calling."
  • 00:47:33.180 --> 00:47:34.040
  • She loves raising kids.
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  • She loves being around it.
  • 00:47:35.170 --> 00:47:37.180
  • And she saw in her capacity to
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  • serve the Lord that she was able
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  • to volunteer in the school in
  • 00:47:41.010 --> 00:47:42.030
  • her kids' class a couple of
  • 00:47:42.030 --> 00:47:43.040
  • times so she just went,
  • 00:47:43.040 --> 00:47:44.180
  • "This is what I can do.
  • 00:47:44.180 --> 00:47:45.260
  • I can't go and rescue slaves in
  • 00:47:45.260 --> 00:47:47.120
  • Greece, but I can at least widen
  • 00:47:47.120 --> 00:47:50.080
  • my world a little bit.
  • 00:47:50.080 --> 00:47:51.080
  • I can volunteer in this
  • 00:47:51.080 --> 00:47:53.010
  • capacity."
  • 00:47:53.010 --> 00:47:53.180
  • So, that is exactly what
  • 00:47:53.180 --> 00:47:54.200
  • God requires.
  • 00:47:54.200 --> 00:47:55.130
  • Because of her faithfulness,
  • 00:47:55.130 --> 00:47:57.060
  • my daughter is so blessed.
  • 00:47:57.060 --> 00:47:59.260
  • And I love this because look,
  • 00:47:59.260 --> 00:48:01.030
  • Kylie, you don't want me to
  • 00:48:01.030 --> 00:48:02.100
  • volunteer in the school,
  • 00:48:02.100 --> 00:48:03.140
  • neither do the children.
  • 00:48:03.140 --> 00:48:05.050
  • It's not gonna bless anybody
  • 00:48:05.050 --> 00:48:06.210
  • because it is not even my
  • 00:48:06.210 --> 00:48:08.010
  • calling.
  • 00:48:08.010 --> 00:48:08.200
  • You know, I'm like put me on
  • 00:48:08.200 --> 00:48:09.120
  • the front lines, I'll go take
  • 00:48:09.120 --> 00:48:10.210
  • a trafficker out.
  • 00:48:10.210 --> 00:48:11.280
  • But put me in with 20 kids,
  • 00:48:11.280 --> 00:48:13.270
  • I'm like, you know what?
  • 00:48:13.270 --> 00:48:14.260
  • This ain't my gig.
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  • This is not what I do well.
  • 00:48:15.180 --> 00:48:16.290
  • I thank God for every mother.
  • 00:48:16.290 --> 00:48:18.280
  • Like, I love your sister helped
  • 00:48:18.280 --> 00:48:20.210
  • me with my kids when they were
  • 00:48:20.210 --> 00:48:22.010
  • young.
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  • Thank God.
  • 00:48:22.200 --> 00:48:23.090
  • She saved their life because
  • 00:48:23.090 --> 00:48:24.230
  • she loved newborns.
  • 00:48:24.230 --> 00:48:26.170
  • So, we're all called to
  • 00:48:26.170 --> 00:48:28.010
  • something and the message of
  • 00:48:28.010 --> 00:48:29.290
  • Sisterhood is that we're not all
  • 00:48:29.290 --> 00:48:31.220
  • meant to do the same thing,
  • 00:48:31.220 --> 00:48:32.220
  • but we're meant to compliment
  • 00:48:32.220 --> 00:48:33.200
  • and help one another.
  • 00:48:33.200 --> 00:48:35.050
  • I think the worst thing,
  • 00:48:35.050 --> 00:48:36.260
  • and I think you see it in the
  • 00:48:36.260 --> 00:48:37.170
  • secular feminist movement,
  • 00:48:37.170 --> 00:48:39.050
  • you see it in every sector is
  • 00:48:39.050 --> 00:48:41.210
  • what they dub the mummy wars.
  • 00:48:41.210 --> 00:48:44.070
  • Sometimes the biggest enemy to
  • 00:48:44.070 --> 00:48:46.020
  • a woman is another woman.
  • 00:48:46.020 --> 00:48:47.110
  • So, the stay-at-home mum looks
  • 00:48:47.110 --> 00:48:48.230
  • at someone like me and goes, "Oh
  • 00:48:48.230 --> 00:48:49.220
  • well, you know, you're rejecting
  • 00:48:49.220 --> 00:48:51.050
  • your children."
  • 00:48:51.050 --> 00:48:52.000
  • Or someone like me would look
  • 00:48:52.000 --> 00:48:53.150
  • back and go, "You're not doing
  • 00:48:53.150 --> 00:48:54.100
  • anything with your life."
  • 00:48:54.100 --> 00:48:55.050
  • And I'm going, hang on a minute.
  • 00:48:55.050 --> 00:48:56.140
  • We are all called to put
  • 00:48:56.140 --> 00:48:57.210
  • Christ first.
  • 00:48:57.210 --> 00:48:58.200
  • How that translates looks
  • 00:48:58.200 --> 00:49:00.260
  • different for every woman.
  • 00:49:00.260 --> 00:49:02.190
  • The woman that feels called by
  • 00:49:02.190 --> 00:49:04.010
  • God to stay at home full time
  • 00:49:04.010 --> 00:49:06.010
  • and raise her children,
  • 00:49:06.010 --> 00:49:07.280
  • and I believe then should extend
  • 00:49:07.280 --> 00:49:09.060
  • her arms to however that looks,
  • 00:49:09.060 --> 00:49:10.290
  • you know, with the neighbors,
  • 00:49:10.290 --> 00:49:11.290
  • or bringing kids over,
  • 00:49:11.290 --> 00:49:13.090
  • however that looks,
  • 00:49:13.090 --> 00:49:15.000
  • she's doing that as unto
  • 00:49:15.000 --> 00:49:15.240
  • the Lord.
  • 00:49:15.240 --> 00:49:16.180
  • And we ought to celebrate her,
  • 00:49:16.180 --> 00:49:18.100
  • and we ought to empower her
  • 00:49:18.100 --> 00:49:19.150
  • to do that.
  • 00:49:19.150 --> 00:49:20.110
  • As long as you're--the message
  • 00:49:20.110 --> 00:49:22.060
  • isn't what you do ultimately,
  • 00:49:22.060 --> 00:49:24.090
  • it's are you fulfilling the
  • 00:49:24.090 --> 00:49:25.120
  • call of God for your life?
  • 00:49:25.120 --> 00:49:26.190
  • That's what the message of
  • 00:49:26.190 --> 00:49:27.150
  • Sisterhood is.
  • 00:49:27.150 --> 00:49:28.170
  • And then women that go,
  • 00:49:28.170 --> 00:49:30.210
  • "Wow, Chris Caine is called to
  • 00:49:30.210 --> 00:49:32.100
  • do what she's doing with A-21 or
  • 00:49:32.100 --> 00:49:33.290
  • with Propel,"
  • 00:49:33.290 --> 00:49:34.290
  • I don't need them sticking a
  • 00:49:34.290 --> 00:49:36.250
  • knife in my back going,
  • 00:49:36.250 --> 00:49:37.220
  • "You're not a good mum."
  • 00:49:37.220 --> 00:49:38.120
  • But going, "How can we best help
  • 00:49:38.120 --> 00:49:39.100
  • you?"
  • 00:49:39.100 --> 00:49:39.250
  • Which actually happens in our
  • 00:49:39.250 --> 00:49:40.270
  • world.
  • 00:49:40.270 --> 00:49:41.120
  • Our Sisterhood world does that.
  • 00:49:41.120 --> 00:49:43.040
  • It's like, "We're getting behind
  • 00:49:43.040 --> 00:49:44.030
  • you.
  • 00:49:44.030 --> 00:49:44.240
  • We are gonna pray.
  • 00:49:44.240 --> 00:49:45.260
  • How can we help you with
  • 00:49:45.260 --> 00:49:46.240
  • Catherine and Sophia?"
  • 00:49:46.240 --> 00:49:47.260
  • I feel that love.
  • 00:49:47.260 --> 00:49:48.240
  • I feel that grace all the time.
  • 00:49:48.240 --> 00:49:50.040
  • I'm a true believer,
  • 00:49:50.040 --> 00:49:51.120
  • it takes a village to raise
  • 00:49:51.120 --> 00:49:52.100
  • a child.
  • 00:49:52.100 --> 00:49:53.050
  • It takes a village to fulfill
  • 00:49:53.050 --> 00:49:54.120
  • the call of God.
  • 00:49:54.120 --> 00:49:55.150
  • And Corinthians actually tells
  • 00:49:55.150 --> 00:49:56.160
  • us God sets every member
  • 00:49:56.160 --> 00:49:59.090
  • in place.
  • 00:49:59.090 --> 00:50:00.100
  • The problem is if Christian
  • 00:50:00.100 --> 00:50:01.180
  • women act like ungodly women
  • 00:50:01.180 --> 00:50:04.060
  • where we compare ourselves
  • 00:50:04.060 --> 00:50:05.050
  • amongst ourselves,
  • 00:50:05.050 --> 00:50:05.280
  • the Scripture says,
  • 00:50:05.280 --> 00:50:06.160
  • that's not wise.
  • 00:50:06.160 --> 00:50:07.110
  • Where someone that maybe works
  • 00:50:07.110 --> 00:50:09.080
  • full time or is a corporate
  • 00:50:09.080 --> 00:50:11.010
  • woman looks down on someone
  • 00:50:11.010 --> 00:50:12.190
  • that's a stay-at-home mum,
  • 00:50:12.190 --> 00:50:13.150
  • or if a stay-at-home mum thinks
  • 00:50:13.150 --> 00:50:15.200
  • a woman that's fulfilling the
  • 00:50:15.200 --> 00:50:16.150
  • call of God in the marketplace
  • 00:50:16.150 --> 00:50:18.040
  • is rejecting her children and
  • 00:50:18.040 --> 00:50:20.000
  • not being wise and not being
  • 00:50:20.000 --> 00:50:21.270
  • true to what, you know,
  • 00:50:21.270 --> 00:50:23.230
  • what their version of raising
  • 00:50:23.230 --> 00:50:25.030
  • children is.
  • 00:50:25.030 --> 00:50:25.260
  • I think we can help the world.
  • 00:50:25.260 --> 00:50:28.260
  • I think one of the greatest
  • 00:50:28.260 --> 00:50:29.270
  • messages that women can do and
  • 00:50:29.270 --> 00:50:32.010
  • the greatest way our
  • 00:50:32.010 --> 00:50:33.030
  • Colour Sisterhood can help the
  • 00:50:33.030 --> 00:50:34.220
  • world, 'cause it is the message
  • 00:50:34.220 --> 00:50:35.170
  • of our Sisterhood, is go,
  • 00:50:35.170 --> 00:50:37.010
  • "Let's kill these mummy wars.
  • 00:50:37.010 --> 00:50:38.130
  • Let's all love each other.
  • 00:50:38.130 --> 00:50:39.230
  • Let's all see, where do you feel
  • 00:50:39.230 --> 00:50:41.230
  • called?
  • 00:50:41.230 --> 00:50:42.120
  • Where do you flourish the most?"
  • 00:50:42.120 --> 00:50:43.270
  • And then don't just keep it to
  • 00:50:43.270 --> 00:50:44.240
  • yourself, help everybody in the
  • 00:50:44.240 --> 00:50:46.180
  • midst of that.
  • 00:50:46.180 --> 00:50:47.160
  • So, if you're a stay-at-home
  • 00:50:47.160 --> 00:50:48.080
  • mum--you do that.
  • 00:50:48.080 --> 00:50:49.180
  • I found you've always done that
  • 00:50:49.180 --> 00:50:51.280
  • where you work as well, but your
  • 00:50:51.280 --> 00:50:53.220
  • whole family has helped me with
  • 00:50:53.220 --> 00:50:54.290
  • my children in such a huge way
  • 00:50:54.290 --> 00:50:57.170
  • because they love it.
  • 00:50:57.170 --> 00:50:59.010
  • I'm like, dear God, okay, knock
  • 00:50:59.010 --> 00:51:00.290
  • yourself--but I'm so grateful
  • 00:51:00.290 --> 00:51:02.070
  • and I will utilize that.
  • 00:51:02.070 --> 00:51:03.170
  • And your whole family's like,
  • 00:51:03.170 --> 00:51:04.210
  • "We're cheering you on, Chris.
  • 00:51:04.210 --> 00:51:05.250
  • We got no desire to do what
  • 00:51:05.250 --> 00:51:07.030
  • you're doing but we're cheering
  • 00:51:07.030 --> 00:51:08.050
  • you on.
  • 00:51:08.050 --> 00:51:08.220
  • We'll take your kids to
  • 00:51:08.220 --> 00:51:10.010
  • Flower Power."
  • 00:51:10.010 --> 00:51:10.240
  • Awesome.
  • 00:51:10.240 --> 00:51:11.130
  • And we all win.
  • 00:51:11.130 --> 00:51:12.110
  • It's a win, win.
  • 00:51:12.110 --> 00:51:13.160
  • - Kylie: So, the Sisterhood
  • 00:51:13.160 --> 00:51:14.030
  • message really does go across
  • 00:51:14.030 --> 00:51:15.230
  • any generation, any career.
  • 00:51:15.280 --> 00:51:18.280
  • - Christine: Whether you're
  • 00:51:18.280 --> 00:51:19.190
  • single, married, stay at home,
  • 00:51:19.190 --> 00:51:20.140
  • kids, no kids, it's like, we're
  • 00:51:20.140 --> 00:51:22.120
  • all part of the kingdom of God.
  • 00:51:22.120 --> 00:51:23.210
  • We're all part of the
  • 00:51:23.210 --> 00:51:24.130
  • Sisterhood, so let's help each
  • 00:51:24.130 --> 00:51:26.060
  • other flourish.
  • 00:51:26.060 --> 00:51:27.240
  • - Kylie: Thank you, Christine,
  • 00:51:27.240 --> 00:51:28.140
  • for giving up your time today.
  • 00:51:28.140 --> 00:51:29.030
  • It's been a privilege being able
  • 00:51:29.030 --> 00:51:30.090
  • to speak to you.
  • 00:51:30.090 --> 00:51:30.240
  • - Christine: It's been
  • 00:51:30.240 --> 00:51:31.100
  • an honor.
  • 00:51:31.100 --> 00:51:31.250