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March 18, 2016
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Bobby Schuller hosts Luis Palau, Andrew Palau, Jonathan Cahn, Leif Hetland and music by Anthony Evans

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Praise the Lord

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  • - male announcer: From coast
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  • to coast and around the world,
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  • [music]
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  • Praise the Lord
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  • Let every nation rejoice
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  • Praise the Lord
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  • - announcer: Welcome
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  • to the number one
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  • Christian network
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  • in all the world.
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  • Joining us for "Praise the
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  • Lord"
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  • in Tustin, California, are
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  • founder and director
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  • of the Luis Palau Association,
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  • and author, Jonathan Cahn;
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  • founder and president of
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  • Global Mission Awareness,
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  • Leif Hetland;
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  • ministering in music,
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  • singer and composer,
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  • Anthony Evans.
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  • Ready to take your calls,
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  • prayer
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  • [music]
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  • Praise the Lord
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  • Let every nation rejoice
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  • Praise the Lord
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  • with one mighty voice
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  • Praise the Lord
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  • Praise the Lord
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  • Praise
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  • - announcer: Now your host,
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  • pastor of Shepherd's Grove,
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  • home of the "Hour of Power,"
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  • - Bobby Schuller: Yes!
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  • Welcome, welcome
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  • to "Praise the Lord" tonight.
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  • We are so glad
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  • you're joining us,
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  • and we think that tonight if you
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  • approach this program
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  • with faith, God is gonna do
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  • And so that's what we're asking.
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  • Join us tonight as
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  • we go on a journey,
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  • and we're going to
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  • encourage you, inspire you.
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  • We hope that you will leave this
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  • program completely changed,
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  • refreshed, renewed, restored.
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  • Today is your day.
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  • So approach this with faith.
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  • Jesus Christ has the power to
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  • break every chain in your life.
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  • Maybe you're watching tonight
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  • Maybe you're watching tonight
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  • and you just say,
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  • "I'm not a religious person.
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  • I don't know what this is."
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  • Watch tonight and approach this
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  • with faith and maybe say your
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  • own prayer, "God, I need a Word
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  • from you tonight," and watch
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  • as the Lord speaks to you.
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  • My name is Bobby Schuller.
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  • I'm from Shepherd's Grove,
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  • and it's such an honor to be
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  • here on "Praise the Lord"
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  • with the TBN network.
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  • So thankful
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  • to Matt and Laurie Crouch
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  • and Jan Crouch for having
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  • me here on the program.
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  • And we just believe in you.
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  • that wherever you are in your
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  • life, you know, Saint Augustine
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  • said, "There's no saint
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  • without a past,
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  • no sinner without a future."
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  • We think no matter who you are,
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  • you have a bright, awesome
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  • future in the kingdom of God,
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  • [audience applauding]
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  • So tonight we're gonna be--
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  • we are--we have people
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  • right now that are praying
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  • just for you,
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  • that as you watch this program,
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  • that your burdens would be
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  • lifted and all the things
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  • that you're facing today,
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  • that you would hold God's hand
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  • and you and God will get
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  • through this together.
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  • We believe that.
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  • We really believe that for you.
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  • You know, tonight
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  • is such a privilege for me
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  • because we're gonna
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  • kick it off by interviewing
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  • Luis Palau and Andrew Palau,
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  • two dear friends
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  • of our family, two men of God
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  • who are doing dynamic things for
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  • the kingdom of God, literally
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  • leading millions of people
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  • to Christ around the world.
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  • Would you welcome with me
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  • - Luis Palau: Thank you, Bobby.
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  • - Bobby: Hi, you guys.
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  • - Luis: Hi, great to see you,
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  • man.
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  • - Bobby: Hi, great to see you.
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  • - Luis: Great, all right?
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  • - Bobby: Well, thank you
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  • for being here tonight.
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  • What a privilege
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  • it is--privilit--agh!
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  • What a privilege it is to have
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  • you here with us.
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  • And, of course, we're--we have
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  • a lot of history, our families,
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  • the Schullers and the Palaus.
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  • - Luis: Yes, that's true.
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  • I mean, I knew your grandpa
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  • many years.
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  • He had me preach over there.
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  • Many people came to the Lord.
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  • In fact, one day, yeah,
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  • I'm an evangelist and he's
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  • a pastor and he rebuked me.
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  • was weak today.
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  • The next service,
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  • do it harder."
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  • And I thought, "Wow.
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  • If Mr. Schuller rebukes me, it
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  • must be of the Lord, you know?"
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  • really true.
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  • So we loved him.
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  • He was a good dad.
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  • You had a good grandpa.
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  • - Bobby: I agree with that,
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  • man.
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  • He was the best and he was
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  • a big--he had a big impact on so
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  • many pastors around the world
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  • and, you know, speaking of
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  • legacy, you know, Andrew,
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  • you're here with your dad,
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  • and you guys are doing
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  • some just terrific things.
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  • Of course, Luis, you have
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  • an incredible legacy.
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  • You guys started in Argentina.
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  • What was early ministry like
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  • for you?
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  • I mean, you were kind of a kid
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  • when you started, right?
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  • - Luis: A little different from
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  • this, I can tell you, yeah.
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  • In those days, the missionaries
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  • came to Argentina.
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  • Most people didn't even have
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  • a Bible.
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  • They didn't let us read
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  • the Bible.
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  • And so these missionaries came
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  • and first led my mom to Christ.
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  • She was religious.
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  • She went to church, played
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  • the organ at Mass, and so on.
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  • But she didn't have peace
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  • with God.
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  • And so this missionary and his
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  • wife came and gave us
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  • a New Testament--my mom.
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  • I wasn't born yet.
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  • And she read it as a young gal.
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  • She was only about 21.
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  • And then reading the--
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  • the New Testament,
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  • on her knees,
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  • she came to the verse that says,
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  • "Blessed are the pure in heart
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  • for they shall see God."
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  • And she said,
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  • "I'll never see God.
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  • I don't have a pure heart."
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  • And then she remembered
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  • the verse from the Bible,
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  • "Look--behold the Lamb of God
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  • that takes away the sin
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  • of the world."
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  • She was converted,
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  • then her mother, then my dad.
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  • And the gospel came
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  • into our family.
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  • My father died when I was 10,
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  • but at age 12 I received
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  • the Lord through
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  • another missionary.
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  • So I love missionaries
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  • and I'm here to praise the Lord
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  • for them.
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  • - Bobby: Amen.
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  • And that's what you do.
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  • I mean, you're kind of a--
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  • yeah, absolutely.
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  • I love to compare you
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  • to Billy Graham 'cause I really
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  • do feel like you're
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  • the Hispanic Billy Graham
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  • to the Latin world
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  • and--but, of course, you're not
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  • limited to the Latin world.
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  • In fact, you guys just did
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  • an incredible crusade
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  • in New York City.
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  • Tell me a little bit about that.
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  • - Luis: And we--I'll let
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  • Andrew tell but I'll--
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  • we call 'em festivals nowadays.
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  • - Bobby: Festivals, okay, yeah.
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  • That's good.
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  • - Luis: And so there's
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  • contemporary music and you don't
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  • wear a tie and you wear jeans
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  • and you pretend that you're
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  • young, you know, and then you
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  • proclaim the gospel, especially
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  • to young people.
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  • But in New York, it was
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  • a wonderful time and Andrew
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  • can tell you a lot 'cause he
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  • preached about 70% of the time
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  • and I only preached 30%.
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  • So he's got more to tell you.
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  • - Bobby: Yeah, of course.
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  • - Andrew Palau: We definitely
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  • love the big cities.
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  • We love the cities because
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  • that's where the, you know,
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  • people are there.
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  • And so it was a privilege to
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  • have been invited initially by
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  • the Spanish-speaking churches
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  • of New York who originally said,
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  • "Hey, we gotta do this thing.
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  • We need your help
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  • to come together."
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  • - Bobby: Did you do it
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  • in Spanish?
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  • - Andrew: We did a lot in
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  • Spanish but it was really
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  • multi-cultural.
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  • The early invitation, really,
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  • the authority and the joy that
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  • came from them, but then my
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  • brother Kevin who also works
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  • with the ministry had been
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  • in communication about a lot
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  • of ideas and ways to serve
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  • together, to love the city
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  • together, to bring different
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  • groups together.
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  • And then everybody sort
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  • It was really a Spirit-led
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  • moment where everybody said,
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  • "Well, don't leave us behind."
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  • And the Koreans were involved,
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  • the Chinese, the Jamaicans,
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  • and everybody came on board,
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  • 1700 churches,
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  • 115 evangelistic events.
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  • The three kind of main
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  • closing week ones were
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  • Radio City Music Hall,
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  • but we were in all the boroughs,
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  • invited by the church.
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  • It was beautiful.
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  • Beautiful time.
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  • - Bobby: So how many people
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  • came out to your event then?
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  • - Andrew: Oh my goodness.
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  • - Bobby: It was
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  • in Central Park, wasn't it?
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  • - Andrew: We were
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  • in Central Park.
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  • Countless.
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  • - Luis: Central Park,
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  • they contained the numbers.
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  • Since the Twin Towers came down,
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  • they don't allow
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  • more than 60.000
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  • on any particular moment
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  • and so--but we reached all over
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  • town, New Jersey, Connecticut.
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  • And there was a unity
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  • of the body.
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  • And now we are hearing people
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  • talking about it, you know,
  • 00:07:52.240 --> 00:07:54.100
  • literally thousands upon
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  • thousands confess Jesus Christ
  • 00:07:55.180 --> 00:07:58.050
  • so the country, America's, more
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  • open than we give it credit for,
  • 00:07:59.210 --> 00:08:01.130
  • you know?
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  • You mustn't get too depressed
  • 00:08:02.130 --> 00:08:03.160
  • because politics is
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  • a little sticky right now.
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  • - Bobby: It is!
  • 00:08:05.210 --> 00:08:06.260
  • [laughing]
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  • - Luis: The Lord is at work
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  • in America, yeah.
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  • - Bobby: That's a good point,
  • 00:08:09.220 --> 00:08:10.180
  • I mean--yeah, we can
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  • applaud that.
  • 00:08:11.120 --> 00:08:12.230
  • And that is a good word because
  • 00:08:12.230 --> 00:08:14.020
  • I feel like the way politics
  • 00:08:14.110 --> 00:08:17.110
  • are right now, of course,
  • 00:08:17.110 --> 00:08:18.290
  • we're in this, you know,
  • 00:08:18.290 --> 00:08:20.130
  • these heated primaries.
  • 00:08:20.130 --> 00:08:22.200
  • It does feel like there's
  • 00:08:22.200 --> 00:08:23.290
  • a lot of anxiety and fear
  • 00:08:24.030 --> 00:08:27.030
  • in the air, right?
  • 00:08:27.030 --> 00:08:28.040
  • And that's never from God,
  • 00:08:28.040 --> 00:08:29.040
  • right?
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  • I mean, the Lord wants
  • 00:08:30.020 --> 00:08:31.000
  • Christians, I think, to have
  • 00:08:31.000 --> 00:08:31.260
  • faith in a time like this.
  • 00:08:31.260 --> 00:08:33.080
  • What are your thoughts
  • 00:08:33.080 --> 00:08:34.170
  • on all what's--
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  • - Luis: I think we need
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  • to come back to this.
  • 00:08:36.120 --> 00:08:37.100
  • Where the Lord says in Isaiah,
  • 00:08:37.100 --> 00:08:39.040
  • "Fear not for I am with you.
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  • Be not afraid for I am your God.
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  • I will strengthen you.
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  • I will help you.
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  • I will uphold you with my
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  • victorious right hand."
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  • And then the Lord says, "Pray
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  • for the city to which I have
  • 00:08:48.240 --> 00:08:50.100
  • taken you," you know?
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  • "Seek the peace and prosperity,
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  • because if it prospers,
  • 00:08:54.140 --> 00:08:55.160
  • you will prosper."
  • 00:08:55.160 --> 00:08:56.160
  • I think in the hands
  • 00:08:56.160 --> 00:08:57.170
  • of the church is the fellowship
  • 00:08:57.170 --> 00:08:59.180
  • in the country.
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  • And I think with so many
  • 00:09:00.220 --> 00:09:01.210
  • thousands of believers, so many
  • 00:09:01.210 --> 00:09:03.080
  • radio and television programs,
  • 00:09:03.080 --> 00:09:04.240
  • we need to give an example
  • 00:09:04.240 --> 00:09:06.150
  • of joy, the fullness of Christ,
  • 00:09:06.150 --> 00:09:09.030
  • the fullness of the Resurrection
  • 00:09:09.030 --> 00:09:10.070
  • and life of Christ,
  • 00:09:10.070 --> 00:09:11.090
  • which is what happened
  • 00:09:11.090 --> 00:09:12.090
  • in New York in a microcosm
  • 00:09:12.090 --> 00:09:13.220
  • of what's going on all
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  • over the country.
  • 00:09:14.230 --> 00:09:15.260
  • And it isn't just
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  • one little corner.
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  • The Lord has young fellows like
  • 00:09:18.120 --> 00:09:19.040
  • you--I mean, he's a young man,
  • 00:09:19.040 --> 00:09:20.140
  • this man, and he's only 34
  • 00:09:20.140 --> 00:09:22.220
  • and he's a father of 2.
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  • The country has a lot of young
  • 00:09:24.060 --> 00:09:25.130
  • guys like you that are godly
  • 00:09:25.130 --> 00:09:27.140
  • and biblical and full of fire.
  • 00:09:27.140 --> 00:09:29.220
  • So there's great hope
  • 00:09:29.220 --> 00:09:30.230
  • for the future in the USA.
  • 00:09:30.230 --> 00:09:32.090
  • There you go.
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  • - Bobby: That's great.
  • 00:09:33.140 --> 00:09:34.290
  • - Luis: No, it's true.
  • 00:09:34.290 --> 00:09:35.290
  • It's true.
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  • - Bobby: You know, it's nice
  • 00:09:36.270 --> 00:09:37.240
  • to hear that from you, too,
  • 00:09:37.240 --> 00:09:38.210
  • because we've got a lot of,
  • 00:09:38.210 --> 00:09:39.200
  • you know, for me
  • 00:09:39.200 --> 00:09:40.170
  • as a young pastor, we've got
  • 00:09:40.170 --> 00:09:41.150
  • a lot of veteran ministers
  • 00:09:41.150 --> 00:09:42.120
  • and older guys that we all look
  • 00:09:42.120 --> 00:09:43.240
  • up to who are so dark and so
  • 00:09:43.240 --> 00:09:46.010
  • gloomy about the future.
  • 00:09:46.010 --> 00:09:47.160
  • Everything is terrible.
  • 00:09:47.160 --> 00:09:48.210
  • It's so nice to hear a positive
  • 00:09:48.210 --> 00:09:50.180
  • word about the future,
  • 00:09:50.180 --> 00:09:51.280
  • about our future world,
  • 00:09:51.280 --> 00:09:53.170
  • and it's a good word
  • 00:09:53.170 --> 00:09:54.190
  • to everybody out there.
  • 00:09:54.190 --> 00:09:55.200
  • If you're a young person
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  • that--listen to what Luis
  • 00:09:56.160 --> 00:09:57.210
  • is saying, you know.
  • 00:09:57.210 --> 00:09:58.280
  • God has given us the power
  • 00:09:58.280 --> 00:10:00.190
  • to create the kind of world
  • 00:10:00.190 --> 00:10:02.030
  • we wanna see.
  • 00:10:02.030 --> 00:10:03.040
  • And that's what you're saying,
  • 00:10:03.040 --> 00:10:04.000
  • right?
  • 00:10:04.000 --> 00:10:04.280
  • And it just lies before us and--
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  • - Luis: Jesus is alive.
  • 00:10:06.100 --> 00:10:07.180
  • He's stood at the right hand
  • 00:10:07.180 --> 00:10:08.180
  • of God the Father.
  • 00:10:08.180 --> 00:10:10.020
  • The Holy Spirit still indwells
  • 00:10:10.020 --> 00:10:11.130
  • the church.
  • 00:10:11.130 --> 00:10:12.150
  • What more do we want, you know?
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  • It really is an exciting thing
  • 00:10:13.280 --> 00:10:15.250
  • to remember that, yes.
  • 00:10:15.250 --> 00:10:17.140
  • - Bobby: And what a great segue
  • 00:10:17.140 --> 00:10:18.130
  • for you, Andrew.
  • 00:10:18.130 --> 00:10:19.120
  • So here you are, you're,
  • 00:10:19.120 --> 00:10:21.000
  • you know, leading--
  • 00:10:21.000 --> 00:10:21.280
  • helping lead your dad's ministry
  • 00:10:21.280 --> 00:10:22.280
  • and now you're preaching
  • 00:10:22.280 --> 00:10:23.260
  • 70% of the time.
  • 00:10:23.260 --> 00:10:24.230
  • What's it like, being where
  • 00:10:24.230 --> 00:10:26.200
  • you are?
  • 00:10:26.200 --> 00:10:27.180
  • I mean, we understand
  • 00:10:27.180 --> 00:10:28.160
  • a little bit of that.
  • 00:10:28.160 --> 00:10:29.130
  • Tell me about--
  • 00:10:29.130 --> 00:10:30.120
  • - Andrew: Well,
  • 00:10:30.120 --> 00:10:31.090
  • it's a privilege, you know.
  • 00:10:31.090 --> 00:10:32.070
  • It's a blessing to be born
  • 00:10:32.070 --> 00:10:33.040
  • into a great Christian home,
  • 00:10:33.040 --> 00:10:35.250
  • a real blessing.
  • 00:10:35.250 --> 00:10:36.250
  • And it's what we strive for and
  • 00:10:36.250 --> 00:10:38.080
  • what we recommend and we plan
  • 00:10:38.080 --> 00:10:39.260
  • and prepare and study for, to be
  • 00:10:39.260 --> 00:10:41.230
  • great fathers, to be great
  • 00:10:41.230 --> 00:10:43.100
  • couples, to be great wives,
  • 00:10:43.100 --> 00:10:44.160
  • and to raise up a great family.
  • 00:10:44.160 --> 00:10:46.190
  • But in the end, of course, being
  • 00:10:46.190 --> 00:10:48.130
  • raised in a great Christian home
  • 00:10:48.130 --> 00:10:49.290
  • doesn't excuse you from the laws
  • 00:10:49.290 --> 00:10:51.190
  • of God and the laws of the
  • 00:10:51.190 --> 00:10:53.160
  • universe and the law of sin
  • 00:10:53.160 --> 00:10:54.250
  • and death.
  • 00:10:54.250 --> 00:10:55.230
  • And, you know, I went off
  • 00:10:55.230 --> 00:10:57.000
  • into my direction early on,
  • 00:10:57.000 --> 00:10:59.050
  • and I didn't walk with the Lord
  • 00:10:59.050 --> 00:11:00.200
  • for 27 years.
  • 00:11:00.200 --> 00:11:01.210
  • That's no surprise, right?
  • 00:11:01.210 --> 00:11:02.230
  • Hebrews says all of us have
  • 00:11:02.230 --> 00:11:04.130
  • sinned and fallen short
  • 00:11:04.130 --> 00:11:05.290
  • of the glory of God.
  • 00:11:05.290 --> 00:11:07.000
  • Hebrews says, "All of us like
  • 00:11:07.000 --> 00:11:08.000
  • sheep have gone astray, each one
  • 00:11:08.000 --> 00:11:09.190
  • has turned to their own way."
  • 00:11:09.190 --> 00:11:11.040
  • We've all turned but mine
  • 00:11:11.040 --> 00:11:13.010
  • was pretty ugly.
  • 00:11:13.010 --> 00:11:13.280
  • - Bobby: Did you have faith
  • 00:11:13.280 --> 00:11:14.260
  • when you left?
  • 00:11:14.260 --> 00:11:15.230
  • Did you go in, like,
  • 00:11:15.230 --> 00:11:16.200
  • a rebellious time where you
  • 00:11:16.200 --> 00:11:17.190
  • just kinda didn't care
  • 00:11:17.190 --> 00:11:18.160
  • about your faith?
  • 00:11:18.160 --> 00:11:19.130
  • - Andrew: Well, I just, you
  • 00:11:19.130 --> 00:11:20.070
  • know, I never walked with God.
  • 00:11:20.070 --> 00:11:21.040
  • I had all the blessings
  • 00:11:21.040 --> 00:11:21.280
  • and privileges of being
  • 00:11:21.280 --> 00:11:22.240
  • in a great home.
  • 00:11:22.240 --> 00:11:23.200
  • I had a great church.
  • 00:11:23.200 --> 00:11:24.180
  • Didn't see a lot of hypocrisy
  • 00:11:24.180 --> 00:11:25.130
  • or any such thing,
  • 00:11:25.130 --> 00:11:26.090
  • but I just loved to party.
  • 00:11:26.090 --> 00:11:27.090
  • So I'd hear the gospel but I'd
  • 00:11:27.090 --> 00:11:28.110
  • reject it and I went through
  • 00:11:28.110 --> 00:11:30.190
  • university and then I started
  • 00:11:30.190 --> 00:11:32.020
  • working my way up
  • 00:11:32.020 --> 00:11:33.030
  • the corporate ladder.
  • 00:11:33.030 --> 00:11:34.010
  • And the whole time I was living
  • 00:11:34.010 --> 00:11:35.160
  • for myself, away from God.
  • 00:11:35.160 --> 00:11:37.060
  • But then the joke's on me.
  • 00:11:37.060 --> 00:11:39.030
  • At a Luis Palau crusade in 1993,
  • 00:11:39.030 --> 00:11:42.000
  • I was 27, and I went out there
  • 00:11:42.000 --> 00:11:44.020
  • and I heard the good news
  • 00:11:44.020 --> 00:11:46.000
  • and the Holy Spirit had been
  • 00:11:46.000 --> 00:11:47.290
  • orchestrating my life
  • 00:11:47.290 --> 00:11:49.060
  • and circumstances.
  • 00:11:49.060 --> 00:11:50.240
  • And I didn't recognize it.
  • 00:11:50.240 --> 00:11:51.290
  • I don't know if you recognized
  • 00:11:51.290 --> 00:11:53.010
  • it but they were faithful
  • 00:11:53.010 --> 00:11:54.150
  • to say, "Come," and to present
  • 00:11:54.150 --> 00:11:56.110
  • the gospel to me.
  • 00:11:56.110 --> 00:11:57.140
  • And when I heard it that time,
  • 00:11:57.140 --> 00:11:58.160
  • my time, I was able to humble
  • 00:11:58.160 --> 00:12:00.180
  • myself and repent and it was
  • 00:12:00.180 --> 00:12:01.290
  • a 180-degree turnaround.
  • 00:12:01.290 --> 00:12:03.110
  • - Bobby: And was it your
  • 00:12:03.110 --> 00:12:04.110
  • dad preaching?
  • 00:12:04.110 --> 00:12:05.100
  • - Andrew: It was Dad preaching.
  • 00:12:05.100 --> 00:12:06.080
  • Can you believe it?
  • 00:12:06.080 --> 00:12:07.070
  • - Bobby: See, isn't that
  • 00:12:07.070 --> 00:12:08.040
  • amazing?
  • 00:12:08.040 --> 00:12:09.000
  • So, I mean it's so amazing
  • 00:12:09.000 --> 00:12:09.280
  • to think that your whole life
  • 00:12:09.280 --> 00:12:10.260
  • you've heard--you've
  • 00:12:10.260 --> 00:12:11.230
  • probably heard thousands
  • 00:12:11.230 --> 00:12:12.190
  • of your dad's sermons.
  • 00:12:12.190 --> 00:12:13.180
  • You heard the gospel 100 times.
  • 00:12:13.180 --> 00:12:14.150
  • You probably could have told the
  • 00:12:14.150 --> 00:12:15.130
  • gospel even as a backslidden
  • 00:12:15.130 --> 00:12:17.000
  • unbeliever, black sheep or
  • 00:12:17.000 --> 00:12:18.070
  • whatever it was you--and yet,
  • 00:12:18.070 --> 00:12:20.030
  • somehow, God in his timing
  • 00:12:20.030 --> 00:12:22.020
  • used you, 27, at a--
  • 00:12:22.020 --> 00:12:24.040
  • to make a turnaround.
  • 00:12:24.040 --> 00:12:25.180
  • What encouragement that is
  • 00:12:25.180 --> 00:12:26.260
  • for Christian parents
  • 00:12:26.260 --> 00:12:29.050
  • who love the Lord.
  • 00:12:29.050 --> 00:12:30.080
  • I mean, for me, when they asked
  • 00:12:30.080 --> 00:12:31.220
  • me the question in my
  • 00:12:31.220 --> 00:12:32.280
  • ordination, "What's your biggest
  • 00:12:32.280 --> 00:12:34.190
  • fear about becoming a pastor?"
  • 00:12:34.190 --> 00:12:36.030
  • I said, "My biggest fear is that
  • 00:12:36.030 --> 00:12:37.120
  • my kids won't know Jesus,"
  • 00:12:37.120 --> 00:12:39.040
  • you know?
  • 00:12:39.040 --> 00:12:40.040
  • And I just thought, "Lord,"
  • 00:12:40.040 --> 00:12:41.080
  • I've always prayed,
  • 00:12:41.080 --> 00:12:42.110
  • "let my children know you."
  • 00:12:42.110 --> 00:12:43.290
  • It's been my greatest privilege
  • 00:12:43.290 --> 00:12:45.080
  • to be--to know God
  • 00:12:45.080 --> 00:12:46.140
  • and walk with God.
  • 00:12:46.140 --> 00:12:47.130
  • I'm sure it was awesome for you
  • 00:12:47.130 --> 00:12:49.090
  • to see Andrew come to faith.
  • 00:12:49.090 --> 00:12:51.040
  • And so, I mean, for you
  • 00:12:51.040 --> 00:12:54.020
  • that's an encouragement.
  • 00:12:54.020 --> 00:12:55.030
  • I mean, and for
  • 00:12:55.030 --> 00:12:56.030
  • the people watching,
  • 00:12:56.030 --> 00:12:56.290
  • that's a big encouragement.
  • 00:12:56.290 --> 00:12:57.270
  • - Andrew: Yeah, and I would
  • 00:12:57.270 --> 00:12:58.230
  • just encourage people.
  • 00:12:58.230 --> 00:12:59.210
  • Dad could do it even
  • 00:12:59.210 --> 00:13:00.190
  • better than me.
  • 00:13:00.190 --> 00:13:01.160
  • But to say, "Never give up,"
  • 00:13:01.160 --> 00:13:02.140
  • because you really don't know
  • 00:13:02.140 --> 00:13:03.120
  • what the Holy Spirit of God
  • 00:13:03.120 --> 00:13:04.080
  • is doing in a person's life,
  • 00:13:04.080 --> 00:13:05.180
  • the way that others
  • 00:13:05.180 --> 00:13:06.210
  • have dropped a seed
  • 00:13:06.210 --> 00:13:08.030
  • and watered it, and all the--
  • 00:13:08.030 --> 00:13:09.230
  • I mean, Mom and Dad shared
  • 00:13:09.230 --> 00:13:10.250
  • the gospel with me, like you
  • 00:13:10.250 --> 00:13:12.040
  • said, many times on one-on-one
  • 00:13:12.040 --> 00:13:14.000
  • moments, through sending me
  • 00:13:14.000 --> 00:13:16.100
  • materials and books,
  • 00:13:16.100 --> 00:13:17.120
  • and dragging me around,
  • 00:13:17.120 --> 00:13:18.130
  • and sticking people after me.
  • 00:13:18.130 --> 00:13:19.270
  • I mean, they were relentless
  • 00:13:19.270 --> 00:13:20.280
  • because they knew the good news
  • 00:13:20.280 --> 00:13:22.100
  • of Jesus Christ.
  • 00:13:22.100 --> 00:13:24.060
  • It was the power of God
  • 00:13:24.060 --> 00:13:25.050
  • unto salvation.
  • 00:13:25.050 --> 00:13:26.170
  • And they didn't want me to just
  • 00:13:26.170 --> 00:13:28.020
  • be a good boy and stop crashing
  • 00:13:28.020 --> 00:13:29.150
  • their cars and be more obedient
  • 00:13:29.150 --> 00:13:31.050
  • to them, which is really
  • 00:13:31.050 --> 00:13:32.050
  • a good side benefit for real,
  • 00:13:32.050 --> 00:13:33.210
  • but they really desired
  • 00:13:33.210 --> 00:13:35.280
  • that I would be transformed
  • 00:13:35.280 --> 00:13:37.180
  • and they knew--and I was.
  • 00:13:37.180 --> 00:13:38.180
  • And even though I had a mask
  • 00:13:40.240 --> 00:13:41.140
  • I wore to say, "Everything's
  • 00:13:41.140 --> 00:13:43.020
  • fine," the truth of it was what
  • 00:13:43.020 --> 00:13:45.210
  • Dad told me 1.000 times,
  • 00:13:45.210 --> 00:13:47.040
  • John 10:10, "The thief
  • 00:13:47.040 --> 00:13:48.070
  • comes to steal, kill,
  • 00:13:48.070 --> 00:13:49.200
  • and destroy, but I have
  • 00:13:49.200 --> 00:13:50.220
  • come to give you life,
  • 00:13:50.220 --> 00:13:51.230
  • and life in abundance."
  • 00:13:51.230 --> 00:13:52.210
  • And I'd hear that
  • 00:13:52.210 --> 00:13:53.220
  • and I'd just roll my eyes.
  • 00:13:53.220 --> 00:13:54.220
  • But it was the fact and it was
  • 00:13:54.220 --> 00:13:55.160
  • that they never gave up.
  • 00:13:57.220 --> 00:13:58.110
  • So you never give up.
  • 00:13:58.110 --> 00:13:59.040
  • - Bobby: You know
  • 00:13:59.040 --> 00:14:00.040
  • what's weird too?
  • 00:14:00.040 --> 00:14:01.050
  • Yeah, you can applaud that.
  • 00:14:01.050 --> 00:14:02.220
  • I feel like, Andrew, it gives
  • 00:14:03.110 --> 00:14:06.110
  • you almost a little bit of,
  • 00:14:06.110 --> 00:14:07.150
  • like, forgive me for--
  • 00:14:07.150 --> 00:14:08.190
  • like, street cred.
  • 00:14:08.190 --> 00:14:09.190
  • Like, the fact that you
  • 00:14:09.190 --> 00:14:10.290
  • made a--like, as an adult,
  • 00:14:10.290 --> 00:14:12.270
  • you're nearly 30,
  • 00:14:12.270 --> 00:14:14.110
  • you'd lived a life away
  • 00:14:14.110 --> 00:14:15.160
  • from God and you--and now
  • 00:14:15.160 --> 00:14:18.020
  • as a minister, you can say,
  • 00:14:18.020 --> 00:14:19.230
  • "Look, I've been
  • 00:14:19.230 --> 00:14:20.270
  • on both sides of the aisle.
  • 00:14:20.270 --> 00:14:22.230
  • I know what it's like to be--
  • 00:14:22.230 --> 00:14:23.250
  • to live a life away from God."
  • 00:14:23.250 --> 00:14:25.180
  • Feel like that gives you--
  • 00:14:25.180 --> 00:14:26.210
  • it's a silver lining
  • 00:14:26.210 --> 00:14:27.250
  • of having spent that time
  • 00:14:27.250 --> 00:14:28.240
  • outside of the--
  • 00:14:28.240 --> 00:14:29.220
  • - Andrew: It's undesirable,
  • 00:14:29.220 --> 00:14:30.190
  • right?
  • 00:14:30.190 --> 00:14:31.210
  • You don't wish that upon anyone,
  • 00:14:31.210 --> 00:14:32.230
  • but God doesn't waste
  • 00:14:32.230 --> 00:14:34.120
  • anything, you know.
  • 00:14:34.120 --> 00:14:35.160
  • And he does take you
  • 00:14:35.160 --> 00:14:37.020
  • from where you are.
  • 00:14:37.020 --> 00:14:38.040
  • He's not far, he's near.
  • 00:14:38.040 --> 00:14:39.050
  • And when you turn to him,
  • 00:14:39.050 --> 00:14:40.070
  • he's right there and you
  • 00:14:40.070 --> 00:14:41.040
  • can begin to walk there.
  • 00:14:41.040 --> 00:14:42.080
  • It's not too late, you know?
  • 00:14:42.080 --> 00:14:43.180
  • That's one of the lies of
  • 00:14:43.180 --> 00:14:44.220
  • the enemy that would keep you
  • 00:14:44.220 --> 00:14:47.020
  • at the age of 27, you're like,
  • 00:14:47.020 --> 00:14:48.150
  • "I knew better.
  • 00:14:48.150 --> 00:14:49.130
  • I did it anyway.
  • 00:14:49.130 --> 00:14:50.160
  • It's too late for me."
  • 00:14:50.160 --> 00:14:51.170
  • And he says,
  • 00:14:51.170 --> 00:14:52.140
  • "It's never too late.
  • 00:14:52.140 --> 00:14:53.120
  • In fact, I'll take all that
  • 00:14:53.120 --> 00:14:54.150
  • garbage and I will turn it
  • 00:14:54.150 --> 00:14:55.180
  • to my glory."
  • 00:14:55.180 --> 00:14:56.290
  • - Bobby: And Luis,
  • 00:14:56.290 --> 00:14:57.250
  • what would you say--I mean,
  • 00:14:57.250 --> 00:14:59.020
  • there are so many moms
  • 00:14:59.020 --> 00:15:00.020
  • and dads that are watching.
  • 00:15:00.020 --> 00:15:01.030
  • They have adult children
  • 00:15:01.030 --> 00:15:02.030
  • that don't have a faith.
  • 00:15:02.030 --> 00:15:03.050
  • Do you have a--
  • 00:15:03.050 --> 00:15:04.070
  • - Luis: Yeah, well, you know,
  • 00:15:04.070 --> 00:15:05.080
  • what I would say is
  • 00:15:05.080 --> 00:15:06.050
  • I think the biblical thing is
  • 00:15:06.050 --> 00:15:07.070
  • to imitate your Father
  • 00:15:07.070 --> 00:15:08.220
  • who is in heaven.
  • 00:15:08.220 --> 00:15:10.030
  • Even when we're rebellious,
  • 00:15:10.030 --> 00:15:11.080
  • he's still patient,
  • 00:15:11.080 --> 00:15:12.180
  • still loves us,
  • 00:15:12.180 --> 00:15:13.210
  • doesn't give up,
  • 00:15:13.210 --> 00:15:14.290
  • doesn't impose
  • 00:15:14.290 --> 00:15:16.290
  • superficial rules, but waits
  • 00:15:16.290 --> 00:15:18.280
  • for you to turn around
  • 00:15:18.280 --> 00:15:20.170
  • and come back.
  • 00:15:20.170 --> 00:15:21.180
  • So stay in touch with your kids,
  • 00:15:21.180 --> 00:15:23.080
  • don't give up on 'em, even if
  • 00:15:23.080 --> 00:15:24.160
  • they're doing unpleasant stuff.
  • 00:15:24.160 --> 00:15:26.040
  • Now, if they get violent,
  • 00:15:26.040 --> 00:15:27.070
  • something has to be done.
  • 00:15:27.070 --> 00:15:28.220
  • But if it's just words and
  • 00:15:28.220 --> 00:15:29.280
  • actions, be patient and loving
  • 00:15:29.280 --> 00:15:32.040
  • and keep, you know,
  • 00:15:32.040 --> 00:15:33.170
  • not harassing them but praying
  • 00:15:33.170 --> 00:15:35.230
  • and once in a while
  • 00:15:35.230 --> 00:15:36.230
  • dropping a little something.
  • 00:15:36.230 --> 00:15:38.040
  • He used to think that I send
  • 00:15:38.040 --> 00:15:40.010
  • people to evangelize him.
  • 00:15:40.010 --> 00:15:42.020
  • It was his conscience bothering
  • 00:15:42.020 --> 00:15:43.100
  • him because I only sent
  • 00:15:43.100 --> 00:15:46.010
  • one guy once.
  • 00:15:46.010 --> 00:15:47.150
  • And he found out that I'd sent
  • 00:15:47.150 --> 00:15:49.000
  • him so he thought any Christian
  • 00:15:49.000 --> 00:15:50.110
  • he bumped into, campus crusade
  • 00:15:50.110 --> 00:15:52.170
  • or anybody else, he said,
  • 00:15:52.170 --> 00:15:53.240
  • "Dad sent this guy,"
  • 00:15:53.240 --> 00:15:55.020
  • you know?
  • 00:15:55.020 --> 00:15:56.060
  • But it wasn't true.
  • 00:15:56.060 --> 00:15:57.070
  • It was the Holy Spirit working
  • 00:15:57.070 --> 00:15:58.070
  • him over, yeah.
  • 00:15:58.070 --> 00:15:59.080
  • - Bobby: I can't--yeah?
  • 00:15:59.080 --> 00:16:00.160
  • - Luis: No, no, go ahead.
  • 00:16:00.160 --> 00:16:01.190
  • - Bobby: I can't imagine being
  • 00:16:01.190 --> 00:16:02.170
  • Luis Palau's son and not just
  • 00:16:02.170 --> 00:16:05.130
  • being inundated by people
  • 00:16:05.130 --> 00:16:06.290
  • wanting you to come to faith.
  • 00:16:06.290 --> 00:16:08.070
  • - Andrew: Yeah, yeah.
  • 00:16:08.070 --> 00:16:09.110
  • - Luis: Yeah, and, you know,
  • 00:16:09.110 --> 00:16:10.080
  • it's good for the ego
  • 00:16:10.080 --> 00:16:11.110
  • of a parent,
  • 00:16:11.110 --> 00:16:12.170
  • strange as I would say,
  • 00:16:12.170 --> 00:16:14.030
  • so you don't think, "Oh,
  • 00:16:14.030 --> 00:16:15.060
  • I brought up four boys
  • 00:16:15.060 --> 00:16:16.140
  • and they're all holy angels."
  • 00:16:16.140 --> 00:16:18.100
  • He was no angel at all,
  • 00:16:18.100 --> 00:16:20.020
  • you know, and a holy one.
  • 00:16:20.020 --> 00:16:21.160
  • But it does keep you on your
  • 00:16:21.160 --> 00:16:23.260
  • knees and it makes you realize,
  • 00:16:23.260 --> 00:16:25.170
  • it's all by the grace of God.
  • 00:16:25.170 --> 00:16:27.190
  • It's not that you're
  • 00:16:27.190 --> 00:16:28.160
  • a good little family.
  • 00:16:28.160 --> 00:16:29.250
  • Yes, hopefully, we're good.
  • 00:16:29.250 --> 00:16:31.070
  • But that doesn't do it.
  • 00:16:31.070 --> 00:16:32.110
  • It's the grace of God
  • 00:16:32.110 --> 00:16:34.010
  • through the Holy Spirit by
  • 00:16:34.010 --> 00:16:35.040
  • the blood of Christ.
  • 00:16:35.040 --> 00:16:36.100
  • - Bobby: What a great word too,
  • 00:16:36.100 --> 00:16:37.080
  • because it does seem like there
  • 00:16:37.080 --> 00:16:38.120
  • are a lot of parents who did
  • 00:16:38.120 --> 00:16:39.120
  • everything they could to raise
  • 00:16:39.120 --> 00:16:41.210
  • godly children and their kids
  • 00:16:41.210 --> 00:16:43.000
  • walked away from the faith.
  • 00:16:43.000 --> 00:16:44.170
  • And I think there's a lot
  • 00:16:44.170 --> 00:16:45.190
  • of shame, there's a lot of--
  • 00:16:45.190 --> 00:16:47.140
  • and that's not necessary, right?
  • 00:16:47.140 --> 00:16:48.270
  • We don't do the converting,
  • 00:16:48.270 --> 00:16:50.250
  • even parents.
  • 00:16:50.250 --> 00:16:51.250
  • And of course, we wanna raise
  • 00:16:51.250 --> 00:16:52.260
  • our children right,
  • 00:16:52.260 --> 00:16:54.010
  • but in a way,
  • 00:16:54.010 --> 00:16:54.290
  • God has his timing.
  • 00:16:54.290 --> 00:16:55.250
  • - Luis: Yes, yeah.
  • 00:16:55.250 --> 00:16:56.240
  • When he came--was converted.
  • 00:16:56.240 --> 00:16:58.120
  • We call him he was
  • 00:16:58.120 --> 00:16:59.130
  • converted at 27.
  • 00:16:59.130 --> 00:17:00.220
  • My wife one day--more than once,
  • 00:17:00.220 --> 00:17:02.220
  • said, "We should have
  • 00:17:02.220 --> 00:17:04.020
  • drilled better with you.
  • 00:17:04.020 --> 00:17:05.090
  • We should have kept--"
  • 00:17:05.090 --> 00:17:06.060
  • And Andrew said, "Mom, there's
  • 00:17:06.060 --> 00:17:07.190
  • nothing you could have done.
  • 00:17:07.190 --> 00:17:09.060
  • I was gone because I chose
  • 00:17:09.060 --> 00:17:10.240
  • that so don't beat yourself up.
  • 00:17:10.240 --> 00:17:13.050
  • It was me."
  • 00:17:13.050 --> 00:17:14.080
  • And he's right, yeah.
  • 00:17:14.080 --> 00:17:15.120
  • - Bobby: And that's
  • 00:17:15.120 --> 00:17:15.280
  • a good word, if you're just--
  • 00:17:15.280 --> 00:17:17.020
  • [audience laughing]
  • 00:17:17.020 --> 00:17:18.040
  • Yeah.
  • 00:17:18.040 --> 00:17:19.030
  • And if you're watching on
  • 00:17:19.030 --> 00:17:20.010
  • television tonight and that's
  • 00:17:20.010 --> 00:17:20.290
  • you and you feel a sense
  • 00:17:20.290 --> 00:17:22.000
  • of shame or guilt about,
  • 00:17:22.000 --> 00:17:23.190
  • "Oh, man, did I raise my kids
  • 00:17:23.190 --> 00:17:24.160
  • the right way?"
  • 00:17:24.160 --> 00:17:25.140
  • Just from the--in the name
  • 00:17:25.140 --> 00:17:26.130
  • of Jesus, let that go.
  • 00:17:26.130 --> 00:17:27.280
  • God is proud of you.
  • 00:17:27.280 --> 00:17:29.010
  • You did exactly what you could
  • 00:17:29.010 --> 00:17:30.040
  • to raise good children,
  • 00:17:30.040 --> 00:17:31.240
  • godly children.
  • 00:17:31.240 --> 00:17:33.010
  • And the seeds that you planted
  • 00:17:33.010 --> 00:17:34.200
  • in your children's life,
  • 00:17:34.200 --> 00:17:35.210
  • the Word of God,
  • 00:17:35.210 --> 00:17:36.160
  • the times you took them
  • 00:17:36.160 --> 00:17:37.180
  • to church, the times you prayed
  • 00:17:37.180 --> 00:17:38.180
  • with them at night.
  • 00:17:38.180 --> 00:17:39.190
  • Those will not grow--those will
  • 00:17:39.200 --> 00:17:42.200
  • grow and they will prosper
  • 00:17:42.200 --> 00:17:44.100
  • and God will use it
  • 00:17:44.100 --> 00:17:45.140
  • and they won't return void.
  • 00:17:45.140 --> 00:17:46.290
  • That's what the Word
  • 00:17:46.290 --> 00:17:47.280
  • of God says.
  • 00:17:47.280 --> 00:17:48.230
  • So I just wanna encourage you
  • 00:17:48.230 --> 00:17:49.220
  • that it's not over.
  • 00:17:49.220 --> 00:17:50.230
  • It's never too late for your
  • 00:17:50.230 --> 00:17:51.220
  • kids and never feel shame.
  • 00:17:51.220 --> 00:17:54.000
  • It's up to the Holy Spirit to
  • 00:17:54.000 --> 00:17:55.070
  • convert your children and he's
  • 00:17:55.070 --> 00:17:56.100
  • gonna do it and we're gonna
  • 00:17:56.100 --> 00:17:57.110
  • believe in faith for that, amen?
  • 00:17:57.110 --> 00:17:59.130
  • - Luis: Yeah, believe for that,
  • 00:17:59.130 --> 00:18:00.180
  • yeah.
  • 00:18:00.180 --> 00:18:01.200
  • - Bobby: So you had this huge
  • 00:18:01.200 --> 00:18:02.170
  • event in New York, huge success.
  • 00:18:02.170 --> 00:18:04.260
  • What is next for you guys?
  • 00:18:04.260 --> 00:18:06.060
  • I mean, how do you top
  • 00:18:06.060 --> 00:18:07.060
  • New York City?
  • 00:18:07.060 --> 00:18:08.080
  • - Luis: You can't.
  • 00:18:08.080 --> 00:18:09.070
  • - Bobby: Yeah, yeah.
  • 00:18:09.070 --> 00:18:10.050
  • - Luis: But people are people,
  • 00:18:10.050 --> 00:18:11.030
  • you know?
  • 00:18:11.030 --> 00:18:12.000
  • And from now on, he's gonna go
  • 00:18:12.000 --> 00:18:13.130
  • to--where are you going
  • 00:18:13.130 --> 00:18:15.000
  • in Africa?
  • 00:18:15.000 --> 00:18:16.160
  • - Andrew: Malawi, Lilongwe,
  • 00:18:16.160 --> 00:18:18.220
  • in the capital city, in August.
  • 00:18:18.220 --> 00:18:20.000
  • - Luis: Yeah.
  • 00:18:20.000 --> 00:18:21.010
  • I'm gonna go to Paraguay
  • 00:18:21.010 --> 00:18:22.010
  • to a tribal area that's been
  • 00:18:22.010 --> 00:18:23.060
  • inviting us for years.
  • 00:18:23.060 --> 00:18:24.150
  • And my wife, she has
  • 00:18:24.150 --> 00:18:25.190
  • a missionary heart.
  • 00:18:25.190 --> 00:18:26.240
  • She insists that we must go.
  • 00:18:26.240 --> 00:18:28.110
  • So we're going to the Chaco
  • 00:18:28.110 --> 00:18:29.200
  • in Paraguay, which is
  • 00:18:29.200 --> 00:18:30.230
  • a very lonely area.
  • 00:18:30.230 --> 00:18:32.050
  • The Mennonites live over there.
  • 00:18:32.050 --> 00:18:33.250
  • So, and they're just as
  • 00:18:33.250 --> 00:18:35.150
  • important, people in the Chaco
  • 00:18:35.150 --> 00:18:36.290
  • in Paraguay as the big shots
  • 00:18:36.290 --> 00:18:38.190
  • in Manhattan who invest in big
  • 00:18:38.190 --> 00:18:40.180
  • banks and that kind of a thing
  • 00:18:40.180 --> 00:18:42.270
  • so from now on, just carry on.
  • 00:18:42.270 --> 00:18:45.080
  • We are slaves of Jesus Christ.
  • 00:18:45.080 --> 00:18:47.020
  • We do what we're told.
  • 00:18:47.020 --> 00:18:48.190
  • We do it gladly
  • 00:18:48.190 --> 00:18:50.000
  • and just keep going.
  • 00:18:50.000 --> 00:18:51.000
  • Every door that opens,
  • 00:18:51.000 --> 00:18:52.080
  • go for it in the name
  • 00:18:52.080 --> 00:18:53.100
  • of the Lord, you know?
  • 00:18:53.100 --> 00:18:54.120
  • So--
  • 00:18:54.120 --> 00:18:55.160
  • - Bobby: Great.
  • 00:18:55.160 --> 00:18:57.240
  • You know, my wife Hannah is one
  • 00:18:58.080 --> 00:19:01.100
  • of the coolest, smartest people
  • 00:19:01.100 --> 00:19:02.270
  • I know.
  • 00:19:02.270 --> 00:19:03.270
  • And she always asks
  • 00:19:03.270 --> 00:19:04.240
  • this question,
  • 00:19:04.240 --> 00:19:05.200
  • especially of veteran pastors
  • 00:19:05.200 --> 00:19:06.240
  • like you that have just left
  • 00:19:06.240 --> 00:19:07.290
  • such a really, Luis, you've
  • 00:19:07.290 --> 00:19:09.280
  • left such an impact
  • 00:19:09.280 --> 00:19:11.040
  • in this world.
  • 00:19:11.040 --> 00:19:12.080
  • And your greatest work is ahead
  • 00:19:12.080 --> 00:19:13.260
  • of you but already you've done
  • 00:19:13.260 --> 00:19:15.040
  • such amazing things.
  • 00:19:15.040 --> 00:19:17.000
  • What's the best piece of advice
  • 00:19:17.000 --> 00:19:18.030
  • you can give to pastors
  • 00:19:18.030 --> 00:19:19.180
  • or evangelists that maybe
  • 00:19:19.180 --> 00:19:20.180
  • are watching right now?
  • 00:19:20.180 --> 00:19:22.040
  • A good word that you can leave
  • 00:19:22.040 --> 00:19:24.010
  • for people who wanna go into
  • 00:19:24.010 --> 00:19:25.040
  • ministry or are in ministry?
  • 00:19:25.040 --> 00:19:26.130
  • - Luis: Oh, wow,
  • 00:19:26.130 --> 00:19:26.280
  • Well, number one, I would say,
  • 00:19:29.040 --> 00:19:31.020
  • start young, be holy,
  • 00:19:32.030 --> 00:19:35.030
  • stick to the holy Word of God.
  • 00:19:35.030 --> 00:19:37.070
  • Don't deviate.
  • 00:19:37.070 --> 00:19:39.050
  • And there's a passage
  • 00:19:39.050 --> 00:19:40.070
  • in 1 Corinthians 9
  • 00:19:40.070 --> 00:19:41.270
  • where Paul uses
  • 00:19:41.270 --> 00:19:42.250
  • three key words, "Woe.
  • 00:19:42.250 --> 00:19:44.130
  • the gospel,"
  • 00:19:46.190 --> 00:19:47.150
  • "Win as many as possible,"
  • 00:19:47.150 --> 00:19:49.200
  • and "Run so as to get
  • 00:19:49.200 --> 00:19:51.150
  • the crown."
  • 00:19:51.150 --> 00:19:52.200
  • And so I would say woe to you
  • 00:19:52.200 --> 00:19:54.140
  • if you don't preach the gospel.
  • 00:19:54.140 --> 00:19:56.130
  • Commit yourself to proclaiming
  • 00:19:56.130 --> 00:19:57.250
  • the good news.
  • 00:19:57.250 --> 00:19:59.020
  • It's the best news in the world.
  • 00:19:59.020 --> 00:20:00.150
  • So make up a "Woe,
  • 00:20:00.150 --> 00:20:02.000
  • therefore go."
  • 00:20:02.000 --> 00:20:03.090
  • And then win as many
  • 00:20:03.090 --> 00:20:04.180
  • as possible.
  • 00:20:04.180 --> 00:20:05.220
  • And Paul says, "I have become
  • 00:20:05.220 --> 00:20:07.080
  • all things to all men so that by
  • 00:20:07.080 --> 00:20:08.220
  • all means I may win some."
  • 00:20:08.220 --> 00:20:10.230
  • So any method is valid as long
  • 00:20:10.230 --> 00:20:13.010
  • as it's honorable.
  • 00:20:13.010 --> 00:20:14.100
  • So don't worry about methods.
  • 00:20:14.100 --> 00:20:15.240
  • It's the message that counts.
  • 00:20:15.240 --> 00:20:17.070
  • And then lastly, run.
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  • Don't just stand around waiting.
  • 00:20:19.070 --> 00:20:21.080
  • When I was young one day,
  • 00:20:21.080 --> 00:20:22.220
  • my mother said,
  • 00:20:22.220 --> 00:20:23.230
  • "You gotta go to this town.
  • 00:20:23.230 --> 00:20:24.230
  • There's no church there
  • 00:20:24.230 --> 00:20:25.230
  • in Argentina."
  • 00:20:25.230 --> 00:20:26.270
  • And I said, "Mom,
  • 00:20:26.270 --> 00:20:27.250
  • I'm waiting for the call."
  • 00:20:27.250 --> 00:20:29.090
  • And my mom who was kind
  • 00:20:29.090 --> 00:20:30.110
  • of gentle got really put off.
  • 00:20:30.110 --> 00:20:32.050
  • And she said, "The call,
  • 00:20:32.050 --> 00:20:33.220
  • the call," she said.
  • 00:20:33.220 --> 00:20:34.240
  • "The call went out
  • 00:20:34.240 --> 00:20:35.250
  • 2000 years ago.
  • 00:20:35.250 --> 00:20:37.020
  • The Lord says we're waiting
  • 00:20:37.020 --> 00:20:38.030
  • for the answer, not the call,
  • 00:20:38.030 --> 00:20:39.190
  • you know?"
  • 00:20:39.190 --> 00:20:40.210
  • And I thought that was
  • 00:20:40.210 --> 00:20:42.020
  • quite theological.
  • 00:20:42.020 --> 00:20:43.190
  • - Bobby: That's great.
  • 00:20:43.190 --> 00:20:44.270
  • And it's a great reminder
  • 00:20:44.270 --> 00:20:46.000
  • too that anybody who's
  • 00:20:46.000 --> 00:20:47.070
  • filled with the Holy Spirit,
  • 00:20:47.070 --> 00:20:48.090
  • anyone that knows Jesus
  • 00:20:48.090 --> 00:20:49.130
  • as our Lord and Savior,
  • 00:20:49.130 --> 00:20:50.140
  • is a minister, is a pastor,
  • 00:20:50.140 --> 00:20:51.290
  • is an evangelist, there
  • 00:20:51.290 --> 00:20:53.000
  • are people right now that have
  • 00:20:53.000 --> 00:20:55.030
  • never shared their faith
  • 00:20:55.030 --> 00:20:56.140
  • that can do it, right?
  • 00:20:56.140 --> 00:20:57.210
  • - Luis: Yes, yes, yes.
  • 00:20:57.210 --> 00:20:58.250
  • And one before thing before
  • 00:20:58.250 --> 00:21:00.040
  • Andrew gets on to that.
  • 00:21:00.040 --> 00:21:02.110
  • Lately, I've been meditating
  • 00:21:02.110 --> 00:21:03.170
  • on this, Bobby.
  • 00:21:03.170 --> 00:21:04.280
  • I can call you Bobby, right?
  • 00:21:04.280 --> 00:21:06.050
  • - Bobby: Absolutely.
  • 00:21:06.050 --> 00:21:07.020
  • Please do.
  • 00:21:07.020 --> 00:21:08.060
  • - Luis: Nice name.
  • 00:21:08.060 --> 00:21:09.030
  • It makes him feel young
  • 00:21:09.030 --> 00:21:10.000
  • all his life.
  • 00:21:10.000 --> 00:21:10.280
  • - Bobby: Yeah!
  • 00:21:10.280 --> 00:21:12.000
  • - Luis: You know?
  • 00:21:12.000 --> 00:21:12.290
  • Bobby.
  • 00:21:12.290 --> 00:21:14.010
  • First, when I was young, I read
  • 00:21:14.010 --> 00:21:15.020
  • a book that had three words in
  • 00:21:15.020 --> 00:21:16.020
  • the title, "The Book, the Blood,
  • 00:21:16.020 --> 00:21:18.180
  • and the Blessed Hope."
  • 00:21:18.180 --> 00:21:20.040
  • And lately, I've been studying
  • 00:21:20.040 --> 00:21:21.070
  • all three and teaching it in
  • 00:21:21.070 --> 00:21:22.120
  • Bible conferences.
  • 00:21:22.120 --> 00:21:23.250
  • And those are the three basics
  • 00:21:23.250 --> 00:21:25.040
  • that we need to never forget,
  • 00:21:25.040 --> 00:21:26.250
  • the Book, the Word of God.
  • 00:21:26.250 --> 00:21:28.160
  • The Blood, the Crucifixion
  • 00:21:28.160 --> 00:21:30.140
  • and Jesus dying for our sins,
  • 00:21:30.140 --> 00:21:32.130
  • substitutionary death.
  • 00:21:32.130 --> 00:21:33.180
  • And the Blessed Hope.
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  • He's coming back, he's
  • 00:21:34.260 --> 00:21:36.030
  • overseeing what's happening
  • 00:21:36.030 --> 00:21:37.100
  • in the world.
  • 00:21:37.100 --> 00:21:38.130
  • Don't panic about
  • 00:21:38.130 --> 00:21:39.130
  • the Middle East or politics
  • 00:21:39.130 --> 00:21:40.210
  • or anything else.
  • 00:21:40.210 --> 00:21:41.260
  • The Lord's purposes
  • 00:21:41.260 --> 00:21:43.010
  • will be fulfilled.
  • 00:21:43.010 --> 00:21:44.200
  • There's a climax of history and
  • 00:21:44.200 --> 00:21:46.210
  • the Lord overrules over it all.
  • 00:21:46.210 --> 00:21:48.190
  • So don't panic.
  • 00:21:48.190 --> 00:21:50.060
  • They're not out of his control.
  • 00:21:50.060 --> 00:21:51.220
  • He is still God
  • 00:21:51.220 --> 00:21:53.020
  • on the throne, yes.
  • 00:21:53.020 --> 00:21:54.150
  • - Bobby: You know, there are--
  • 00:21:54.150 --> 00:21:56.000
  • Yeah, that's great.
  • 00:21:56.000 --> 00:21:57.200
  • [audience applauding]
  • 00:21:57.200 --> 00:21:59.130
  • You know, you guys and TBN have
  • 00:21:59.130 --> 00:22:02.060
  • a very similar heart and that is
  • 00:22:02.060 --> 00:22:03.190
  • to just see people come
  • 00:22:03.190 --> 00:22:05.120
  • to know Jesus.
  • 00:22:05.120 --> 00:22:06.160
  • I mean, that is the reason
  • 00:22:06.160 --> 00:22:07.100
  • Luis Palau Organization exists.
  • 00:22:07.100 --> 00:22:09.120
  • That's why TBN exists.
  • 00:22:09.120 --> 00:22:10.190
  • It's to see people come
  • 00:22:10.190 --> 00:22:11.260
  • to faith.
  • 00:22:11.260 --> 00:22:12.260
  • And there are people tonight
  • 00:22:12.260 --> 00:22:13.230
  • that are watching
  • 00:22:13.230 --> 00:22:14.240
  • for the first time.
  • 00:22:14.240 --> 00:22:15.230
  • And if you're watching, Andrew,
  • 00:22:15.230 --> 00:22:16.210
  • could you share--I mean,
  • 00:22:16.210 --> 00:22:17.200
  • if--could you give an
  • 00:22:17.200 --> 00:22:18.220
  • opportunity to those if they
  • 00:22:18.220 --> 00:22:19.230
  • wanna come to know Jesus,
  • 00:22:19.230 --> 00:22:20.280
  • how to do that?
  • 00:22:20.280 --> 00:22:22.000
  • - Andrew: Yeah, well,
  • 00:22:22.000 --> 00:22:22.290
  • I'd be honored, Bobby.
  • 00:22:22.290 --> 00:22:23.270
  • And I'll tell 'em what
  • 00:22:23.270 --> 00:22:24.240
  • Dad told me, right?
  • 00:22:24.240 --> 00:22:25.220
  • The same old thing.
  • 00:22:25.220 --> 00:22:26.210
  • Because it's the unchanging
  • 00:22:26.210 --> 00:22:28.060
  • truth that has power.
  • 00:22:28.060 --> 00:22:30.060
  • We're not ashamed of the gospel.
  • 00:22:30.060 --> 00:22:31.230
  • This good news I'll share with
  • 00:22:31.230 --> 00:22:32.260
  • you right now, we're not ashamed
  • 00:22:32.260 --> 00:22:34.100
  • of it 'cause it's the power
  • 00:22:34.100 --> 00:22:35.180
  • of God unto salvation.
  • 00:22:35.180 --> 00:22:37.140
  • And if you're there and you've
  • 00:22:37.140 --> 00:22:38.140
  • been listening to this and
  • 00:22:38.140 --> 00:22:39.190
  • something has touched your heart
  • 00:22:39.190 --> 00:22:41.090
  • to say, "This is what I need
  • 00:22:41.090 --> 00:22:42.210
  • and this is what I desire,"
  • 00:22:42.210 --> 00:22:43.290
  • maybe the enemy's been lying
  • 00:22:43.290 --> 00:22:45.220
  • to you to say it's too late,
  • 00:22:45.220 --> 00:22:47.050
  • you've gone too far,
  • 00:22:47.050 --> 00:22:48.080
  • or, you know, you're from
  • 00:22:48.080 --> 00:22:49.180
  • a family of losers or whatever
  • 00:22:49.180 --> 00:22:51.040
  • lie or you're better
  • 00:22:51.040 --> 00:22:52.230
  • than that, whatever he says
  • 00:22:52.230 --> 00:22:54.010
  • to you, but you know
  • 00:22:54.010 --> 00:22:55.110
  • the Holy Spirit of God brings
  • 00:22:55.110 --> 00:22:56.190
  • a conviction of sin and guilt
  • 00:22:56.190 --> 00:22:58.080
  • and righteousness and if you're
  • 00:22:58.080 --> 00:22:59.190
  • feeling that conviction that
  • 00:22:59.190 --> 00:23:01.100
  • there is a better way and that
  • 00:23:01.100 --> 00:23:02.290
  • you need God, you're right.
  • 00:23:02.290 --> 00:23:04.120
  • And this is what he says,
  • 00:23:04.120 --> 00:23:05.140
  • "I will transform your life.
  • 00:23:05.140 --> 00:23:07.100
  • I will set you free."
  • 00:23:07.100 --> 00:23:08.130
  • In John 8, I was just looking
  • 00:23:08.130 --> 00:23:09.240
  • at John 8.
  • 00:23:09.240 --> 00:23:11.000
  • "Jesus says, 'If the Son
  • 00:23:11.000 --> 00:23:12.140
  • sets you free,
  • 00:23:12.140 --> 00:23:13.250
  • you will be free indeed.'"
  • 00:23:13.250 --> 00:23:15.260
  • And what he does is
  • 00:23:15.260 --> 00:23:16.260
  • he takes your entire life,
  • 00:23:16.260 --> 00:23:18.060
  • revolutionizes it.
  • 00:23:18.060 --> 00:23:19.100
  • Your past, he will take care
  • 00:23:19.100 --> 00:23:21.260
  • of the burden and the shame of
  • 00:23:21.260 --> 00:23:23.210
  • the sin and guilt of your past
  • 00:23:23.210 --> 00:23:26.020
  • because he gave his life on the
  • 00:23:26.020 --> 00:23:27.100
  • cross for that very purpose.
  • 00:23:27.100 --> 00:23:28.270
  • That's why the cross.
  • 00:23:28.270 --> 00:23:30.140
  • Why he shed his blood was to pay
  • 00:23:30.140 --> 00:23:33.040
  • the penalty that you should have
  • 00:23:33.040 --> 00:23:34.180
  • paid so that you could be made
  • 00:23:34.180 --> 00:23:36.060
  • right, related to your past
  • 00:23:36.060 --> 00:23:38.170
  • and enter into a relationship
  • 00:23:38.170 --> 00:23:39.270
  • with him.
  • 00:23:39.270 --> 00:23:41.040
  • And in your--related to your
  • 00:23:41.040 --> 00:23:42.050
  • present, you say, "Well, that's
  • 00:23:42.050 --> 00:23:43.140
  • great but what about today?"
  • 00:23:43.140 --> 00:23:44.290
  • This is what he'll do.
  • 00:23:44.290 --> 00:23:46.020
  • He will come into your life,
  • 00:23:46.020 --> 00:23:47.200
  • he will indwell you
  • 00:23:47.200 --> 00:23:48.230
  • with his Holy Spirit
  • 00:23:48.230 --> 00:23:50.060
  • and his Spirit will take up
  • 00:23:50.060 --> 00:23:51.230
  • residence in you so that you
  • 00:23:51.230 --> 00:23:53.150
  • can deal with your present.
  • 00:23:53.150 --> 00:23:54.200
  • So he revolutionizes your past,
  • 00:23:54.200 --> 00:23:56.150
  • your present, and your future
  • 00:23:56.150 --> 00:23:58.010
  • because he also gives you
  • 00:23:58.010 --> 00:23:59.060
  • the great promise of heaven.
  • 00:23:59.060 --> 00:24:01.000
  • And that changes everything.
  • 00:24:01.000 --> 00:24:02.190
  • You don't have to fear death
  • 00:24:02.190 --> 00:24:03.250
  • anymore.
  • 00:24:03.250 --> 00:24:04.240
  • You know where your goal
  • 00:24:04.240 --> 00:24:05.240
  • and your aim is.
  • 00:24:05.240 --> 00:24:06.290
  • And he says, "I'm going there
  • 00:24:06.290 --> 00:24:08.000
  • to prepare a place for you.
  • 00:24:08.000 --> 00:24:10.000
  • And if I go there I will come
  • 00:24:10.000 --> 00:24:11.150
  • again and I will take you there
  • 00:24:11.150 --> 00:24:12.200
  • to be with me also."
  • 00:24:12.200 --> 00:24:13.230
  • But you really need
  • 00:24:13.230 --> 00:24:14.280
  • to respond to him.
  • 00:24:14.280 --> 00:24:16.050
  • He's not far, he's near.
  • 00:24:16.050 --> 00:24:17.150
  • But you need to respond
  • 00:24:17.150 --> 00:24:18.170
  • and you could just pray.
  • 00:24:18.170 --> 00:24:19.190
  • I could lead you,
  • 00:24:19.190 --> 00:24:20.280
  • just like my father led me,
  • 00:24:20.280 --> 00:24:22.290
  • to respond to him to say, "Yes,
  • 00:24:22.290 --> 00:24:24.240
  • I have sinned against you.
  • 00:24:24.240 --> 00:24:26.050
  • I have been wrong all this time.
  • 00:24:26.050 --> 00:24:28.050
  • Please forgive me."
  • 00:24:28.050 --> 00:24:29.120
  • And he says, "If you confess
  • 00:24:29.120 --> 00:24:30.150
  • your sin, I am faithful
  • 00:24:30.150 --> 00:24:32.010
  • and I am able, I am just,
  • 00:24:32.010 --> 00:24:33.190
  • to forgive your sin, cleanse you
  • 00:24:33.190 --> 00:24:36.000
  • from all unrighteousness."
  • 00:24:36.000 --> 00:24:37.050
  • And if you'd like to do it
  • 00:24:37.050 --> 00:24:38.140
  • and you feel it, I'd recommend
  • 00:24:38.140 --> 00:24:39.190
  • just get on your knees
  • 00:24:39.190 --> 00:24:41.150
  • and pray this prayer.
  • 00:24:41.150 --> 00:24:43.190
  • You can just follow along
  • 00:24:43.190 --> 00:24:44.210
  • with me.
  • 00:24:44.210 --> 00:24:45.220
  • Will you do it?
  • 00:24:45.220 --> 00:24:46.230
  • Do it now.
  • 00:24:46.230 --> 00:24:47.190
  • This is your time.
  • 00:24:47.190 --> 00:24:48.160
  • Let's pray.
  • 00:24:48.160 --> 00:24:49.150
  • "Heavenly Father,
  • 00:24:49.150 --> 00:24:51.160
  • I believe in you,
  • 00:24:51.160 --> 00:24:53.290
  • and I receive you now.
  • 00:24:53.290 --> 00:24:56.170
  • Please forgive me.
  • 00:24:56.290 --> 00:24:59.290
  • I am so sorry.
  • 00:25:00.260 --> 00:25:03.260
  • Thank you for forgiving me.
  • 00:25:03.260 --> 00:25:06.210
  • And for sending your Son to die
  • 00:25:06.210 --> 00:25:08.190
  • on the cross to forgive me.
  • 00:25:12.080 --> 00:25:15.080
  • Thank you.
  • 00:25:15.080 --> 00:25:17.090
  • Come into my life, take control.
  • 00:25:19.120 --> 00:25:22.120
  • Fill me with your Holy Spirit
  • 00:25:24.020 --> 00:25:27.020
  • and thank you for coming in.
  • 00:25:27.020 --> 00:25:29.180
  • I'm yours forever.
  • 00:25:29.180 --> 00:25:32.030
  • I am your child.
  • 00:25:32.030 --> 00:25:34.240
  • Never will you leave me.
  • 00:25:34.240 --> 00:25:36.290
  • Never will you forsake me.
  • 00:25:36.290 --> 00:25:39.120
  • That's your promise,
  • 00:25:39.120 --> 00:25:41.150
  • and I make it mine today.
  • 00:25:41.150 --> 00:25:44.150
  • And thank you for heaven,
  • 00:25:44.150 --> 00:25:46.220
  • my home.
  • 00:25:46.220 --> 00:25:48.160
  • Help me to grow and help me
  • 00:25:48.160 --> 00:25:51.010
  • to win others and to run
  • 00:25:51.010 --> 00:25:53.140
  • the race to the very end,
  • 00:25:54.070 --> 00:25:57.070
  • in Jesus' name, amen."
  • 00:25:57.070 --> 00:26:00.020
  • - Luis: Amen.
  • 00:26:00.020 --> 00:26:00.270
  • - Andrew: Amen.
  • 00:26:00.270 --> 00:26:01.250
  • - Bobby: Amen.
  • 00:26:01.250 --> 00:26:03.230
  • Well, Luis and Andrew,
  • 00:26:03.230 --> 00:26:05.190
  • thank you, guys, so much
  • 00:26:05.190 --> 00:26:07.100
  • for being with us.
  • 00:26:07.100 --> 00:26:08.120
  • And we're gonna be praying for
  • 00:26:08.120 --> 00:26:09.120
  • you as you continue to do great
  • 00:26:09.120 --> 00:26:10.280
  • things for the kingdom of God.
  • 00:26:10.280 --> 00:26:12.200
  • Millions and millions are coming
  • 00:26:12.200 --> 00:26:13.220
  • to faith because of you.
  • 00:26:13.220 --> 00:26:15.110
  • And as you continue to train
  • 00:26:15.110 --> 00:26:16.100
  • up that next generation,
  • 00:26:16.100 --> 00:26:17.130
  • it's amazing, and we're
  • 00:26:17.130 --> 00:26:18.160
  • so grateful to have
  • 00:26:18.160 --> 00:26:19.190
  • had you here today.
  • 00:26:19.190 --> 00:26:20.220
  • - Andrew: Thanks, Bobby.
  • 00:26:20.220 --> 00:26:21.200
  • We're in it together.
  • 00:26:21.200 --> 00:26:22.190
  • - Bobby: Amen!
  • 00:26:22.190 --> 00:26:23.200
  • - Andrew: Yeah, go for it.
  • 00:26:23.200 --> 00:26:24.170
  • Bless you.
  • 00:26:24.170 --> 00:26:25.150
  • - Bobby: God bless you, guys.
  • 00:26:25.150 --> 00:26:26.140
  • Well, tonight,
  • 00:26:26.140 --> 00:26:27.110
  • we have a nationally
  • 00:26:27.110 --> 00:26:28.080
  • sought after worship leader
  • 00:26:28.080 --> 00:26:29.040
  • who is in the house
  • 00:26:29.040 --> 00:26:30.000
  • to lead our music.
  • 00:26:30.000 --> 00:26:30.260
  • He's worked with people
  • 00:26:30.260 --> 00:26:31.240
  • like CeeLo Green, Celine Dion,
  • 00:26:31.240 --> 00:26:32.220
  • Mariah Carey.
  • 00:26:32.220 --> 00:26:33.240
  • He's been on--been a part
  • 00:26:33.240 --> 00:26:34.280
  • of "Glee" and part of the team
  • 00:26:34.280 --> 00:26:37.020
  • responsible for casting
  • 00:26:37.020 --> 00:26:38.050
  • "The Voice."
  • 00:26:38.050 --> 00:26:39.080
  • His CD is "Real Life,
  • 00:26:39.080 --> 00:26:40.190
  • Real Worship."
  • 00:26:40.190 --> 00:26:41.200
  • Tonight, he's singing,
  • 00:26:41.200 --> 00:26:42.160
  • "Mercy Tree."
  • 00:26:42.160 --> 00:26:43.170
  • Would you welcome with me,
  • 00:26:43.170 --> 00:26:44.140
  • ladies and gentlemen,
  • 00:26:44.140 --> 00:26:45.130
  • On a hill called Calvary
  • 00:26:59.030 --> 00:27:02.050
  • there stands an endless
  • 00:27:02.050 --> 00:27:05.030
  • Every broken weary soul
  • 00:27:10.020 --> 00:27:13.020
  • find your rest
  • 00:27:13.020 --> 00:27:15.140
  • Stripes of blood
  • 00:27:21.140 --> 00:27:23.060
  • that stain its frame
  • 00:27:23.100 --> 00:27:26.100
  • shed to wash away
  • 00:27:27.010 --> 00:27:30.010
  • our shame
  • 00:27:30.010 --> 00:27:31.210
  • From the scars
  • 00:27:31.210 --> 00:27:33.250
  • pure love released
  • 00:27:33.250 --> 00:27:36.250
  • In the sky
  • 00:27:44.280 --> 00:27:46.290
  • between two thieves
  • 00:27:47.060 --> 00:27:50.060
  • hung the blameless
  • 00:27:50.060 --> 00:27:52.290
  • Prince of Peace
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  • Bruised and battered
  • 00:27:55.250 --> 00:27:58.100
  • scarred and scorned
  • 00:27:58.100 --> 00:28:00.280
  • Sacred head pierced
  • 00:28:00.280 --> 00:28:03.220
  • by our thorns
  • 00:28:05.250 --> 00:28:08.250
  • "It is finished,"
  • 00:28:08.250 --> 00:28:11.090
  • was his cry
  • 00:28:11.090 --> 00:28:13.290
  • The perfect Lamb
  • 00:28:13.290 --> 00:28:16.050
  • was crucified
  • 00:28:16.090 --> 00:28:19.090
  • His sacrifice
  • 00:28:19.090 --> 00:28:21.060
  • our victory
  • 00:28:21.090 --> 00:28:24.090
  • Our Savior chose
  • 00:28:24.090 --> 00:28:26.290
  • Oooh
  • 00:28:35.040 --> 00:28:38.040
  • Hope went dark
  • 00:28:38.040 --> 00:28:39.290
  • that violent day
  • 00:28:40.010 --> 00:28:43.010
  • The whole earth
  • 00:28:43.010 --> 00:28:44.140
  • quaked at love's display
  • 00:28:45.260 --> 00:28:48.260
  • Three days silent
  • 00:28:48.260 --> 00:28:51.090
  • in the ground
  • 00:28:51.090 --> 00:28:54.060
  • This body born
  • 00:28:54.060 --> 00:28:56.080
  • for heaven's crown
  • 00:29:04.030 --> 00:29:07.030
  • Heaven's crown, yeah
  • 00:29:14.100 --> 00:29:17.100
  • But on that bright
  • 00:29:17.100 --> 00:29:19.250
  • and glorious day
  • 00:29:19.260 --> 00:29:22.260
  • When heaven opened
  • 00:29:22.260 --> 00:29:25.120
  • up the grave
  • 00:29:25.120 --> 00:29:28.090
  • He's alive
  • 00:29:28.090 --> 00:29:30.190
  • and risen indeed!
  • 00:29:30.190 --> 00:29:32.270
  • Oh, praise him
  • 00:29:32.270 --> 00:29:34.100
  • for the Mercy Tree
  • 00:29:38.100 --> 00:29:41.100
  • Death has died
  • 00:29:41.100 --> 00:29:43.210
  • and love has won
  • 00:29:43.210 --> 00:29:46.120
  • Sing, hallelujah
  • 00:29:46.120 --> 00:29:49.060
  • hallelujah
  • 00:29:49.060 --> 00:29:51.290
  • Jesus Christ has overcome
  • 00:29:53.290 --> 00:29:56.290
  • He has risen from the dead
  • 00:30:07.130 --> 00:30:10.130
  • From the dead
  • 00:30:18.130 --> 00:30:21.130
  • One day soon
  • 00:30:21.130 --> 00:30:23.060
  • we'll see his face
  • 00:30:23.140 --> 00:30:26.140
  • he'll wipe away
  • 00:30:29.100 --> 00:30:32.100
  • No more pain
  • 00:30:32.100 --> 00:30:34.040
  • or suffering
  • 00:30:34.040 --> 00:30:36.260
  • Oh, praise him
  • 00:30:36.260 --> 00:30:38.090
  • for the Mercy Tree
  • 00:30:41.220 --> 00:30:44.220
  • Death has died
  • 00:30:44.220 --> 00:30:47.020
  • Sing, hallelujah
  • 00:30:49.290 --> 00:30:52.220
  • hallelujah
  • 00:30:52.220 --> 00:30:55.160
  • Jesus Christ, he's overcome
  • 00:30:57.220 --> 00:31:00.240
  • He has risen from the dead
  • 00:31:02.200 --> 00:31:05.200
  • Oh, death has died
  • 00:31:05.200 --> 00:31:08.020
  • and love has won
  • 00:31:08.030 --> 00:31:11.030
  • Sing hallelujah
  • 00:31:11.220 --> 00:31:14.220
  • Sing hallelujah
  • 00:31:14.220 --> 00:31:17.030
  • Jesus Christ has overcome
  • 00:31:19.010 --> 00:31:22.010
  • He has risen from the dead
  • 00:31:32.060 --> 00:31:35.060
  • From the dead
  • 00:31:43.140 --> 00:31:46.140
  • On a hill called Calvary
  • 00:31:47.250 --> 00:31:50.250
  • there stands an endless
  • 00:31:52.240 --> 00:31:55.240
  • mercy tree
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  • - Bobby: Thank you,
  • 00:32:10.190 --> 00:32:11.190
  • Anthony Evans.
  • 00:32:11.190 --> 00:32:12.090
  • What a powerful Word
  • 00:32:12.090 --> 00:32:13.130
  • from the Lord,
  • 00:32:13.130 --> 00:32:14.110
  • and if you wanna know
  • 00:32:14.110 --> 00:32:15.140
  • more about Anthony,
  • 00:32:15.140 --> 00:32:16.110
  • you can get his CD,
  • 00:32:16.110 --> 00:32:17.090
  • "Real Life, Real Worship."
  • 00:32:17.090 --> 00:32:19.190
  • We're so glad you're
  • 00:32:19.190 --> 00:32:20.180
  • joining us tonight here
  • 00:32:20.180 --> 00:32:21.150
  • on "Praise the Lord."
  • 00:32:21.150 --> 00:32:22.110
  • I'm Bobby Schuller
  • 00:32:22.110 --> 00:32:23.060
  • from "The Hour of Power."
  • 00:32:23.060 --> 00:32:24.030
  • And it's such a privilege
  • 00:32:24.030 --> 00:32:24.280
  • to be here and, you know,
  • 00:32:24.280 --> 00:32:25.260
  • tonight we are here
  • 00:32:25.260 --> 00:32:26.190
  • to encourage you.
  • 00:32:26.190 --> 00:32:27.160
  • Your life is hard and there's so
  • 00:32:27.160 --> 00:32:28.160
  • many challenges and especially
  • 00:32:28.160 --> 00:32:30.060
  • in a time that we're
  • 00:32:30.060 --> 00:32:31.190
  • in right now.
  • 00:32:31.190 --> 00:32:32.170
  • There's a presidential election,
  • 00:32:32.170 --> 00:32:34.060
  • all sorts of things happening
  • 00:32:34.060 --> 00:32:35.100
  • within the government.
  • 00:32:35.100 --> 00:32:37.020
  • It seems as though the world
  • 00:32:37.020 --> 00:32:38.180
  • is becoming more fragile,
  • 00:32:38.180 --> 00:32:40.140
  • more chaotic, even scarier.
  • 00:32:40.140 --> 00:32:43.060
  • And the best thing to do is
  • 00:32:43.060 --> 00:32:45.040
  • to go to the Word of God,
  • 00:32:45.040 --> 00:32:46.130
  • to understand what is happening
  • 00:32:46.130 --> 00:32:48.010
  • in the world.
  • 00:32:48.010 --> 00:32:49.100
  • And someone who is doing that
  • 00:32:49.100 --> 00:32:51.040
  • in an incredible way,
  • 00:32:51.040 --> 00:32:52.200
  • helping us look to
  • 00:32:52.200 --> 00:32:54.000
  • the Word of God, not to look
  • 00:32:54.000 --> 00:32:55.010
  • to circumstances when we
  • 00:32:55.010 --> 00:32:56.010
  • feel afraid or we feel worried,
  • 00:32:56.010 --> 00:32:57.150
  • is Jonathan Cahn.
  • 00:32:57.150 --> 00:32:59.050
  • He's the author of
  • 00:32:59.050 --> 00:33:00.100
  • "The Mystery of the Shemitah."
  • 00:33:00.100 --> 00:33:02.240
  • He's the New York Times
  • 00:33:02.240 --> 00:33:03.270
  • Bestselling Author of the book,
  • 00:33:03.270 --> 00:33:05.070
  • "The Harbinger," and he's
  • 00:33:05.070 --> 00:33:06.130
  • here with us tonight.
  • 00:33:06.130 --> 00:33:07.150
  • Would you welcome with me,
  • 00:33:07.150 --> 00:33:08.150
  • ladies and gentlemen,
  • 00:33:08.150 --> 00:33:09.130
  • Jonathan Cahn?
  • 00:33:09.130 --> 00:33:11.200
  • - Jonathan Cahn: Thank you.
  • 00:33:11.200 --> 00:33:12.230
  • - Bobby: Jonathan, hi.
  • 00:33:12.230 --> 00:33:13.180
  • - Jonathan: Hi.
  • 00:33:13.180 --> 00:33:14.170
  • Great to be here.
  • 00:33:14.170 --> 00:33:15.240
  • And in heaven, I wanna be
  • 00:33:15.240 --> 00:33:16.210
  • with that guy who just sang.
  • 00:33:16.210 --> 00:33:18.000
  • I mean, I wanna be
  • 00:33:18.000 --> 00:33:19.030
  • with him in the choir,
  • 00:33:19.030 --> 00:33:20.040
  • 'cause then he'll cover for me.
  • 00:33:20.040 --> 00:33:21.140
  • That was wonderful.
  • 00:33:21.140 --> 00:33:22.190
  • That was wonderful.
  • 00:33:22.190 --> 00:33:23.140
  • - Bobby: That was awesome.
  • 00:33:23.140 --> 00:33:24.100
  • And, of course, he's such
  • 00:33:24.100 --> 00:33:25.060
  • a gifted worship leader.
  • 00:33:25.060 --> 00:33:26.020
  • So glad to have Anthony Evans
  • 00:33:26.020 --> 00:33:27.030
  • in the house.
  • 00:33:27.030 --> 00:33:28.020
  • But we're also glad to have you
  • 00:33:28.020 --> 00:33:28.290
  • here with us today,
  • 00:33:28.290 --> 00:33:29.240
  • and you've got, you know,
  • 00:33:29.240 --> 00:33:30.240
  • such a great following.
  • 00:33:30.240 --> 00:33:31.190
  • You know, my grandpa personally
  • 00:33:31.190 --> 00:33:33.050
  • is one of your biggest fans.
  • 00:33:33.050 --> 00:33:34.090
  • I'll never forget he gave me
  • 00:33:34.090 --> 00:33:35.140
  • the book, "The Harbinger,"
  • 00:33:35.140 --> 00:33:36.220
  • and he said, "You have
  • 00:33:36.220 --> 00:33:37.190
  • to read this.
  • 00:33:37.190 --> 00:33:38.180
  • It's the best book
  • 00:33:38.180 --> 00:33:39.170
  • I've ever read."
  • 00:33:39.170 --> 00:33:40.140
  • So it's such an honor to have
  • 00:33:40.140 --> 00:33:41.270
  • you here, Jonathan.
  • 00:33:41.270 --> 00:33:42.290
  • - Jonathan: Thank you.
  • 00:33:42.290 --> 00:33:44.000
  • It's so much an honor
  • 00:33:44.000 --> 00:33:44.280
  • to be here with you.
  • 00:33:44.280 --> 00:33:45.260
  • - Bobby: This is a crazy time,
  • 00:33:45.260 --> 00:33:46.230
  • isn't it?
  • 00:33:46.230 --> 00:33:47.220
  • - Jonathan: Yes.
  • 00:33:47.220 --> 00:33:48.190
  • - Bobby: I mean, we're
  • 00:33:48.190 --> 00:33:49.150
  • in the--this is the weirdest
  • 00:33:49.150 --> 00:33:50.090
  • presidential election I think
  • 00:33:50.090 --> 00:33:51.080
  • I've ever seen in my--I mean,
  • 00:33:51.080 --> 00:33:52.140
  • I'm 34 but, still, I mean,
  • 00:33:52.140 --> 00:33:53.230
  • it's--this is weird.
  • 00:33:53.230 --> 00:33:55.000
  • And you just came, you just
  • 00:33:55.000 --> 00:33:56.030
  • gave a speech at the UN.
  • 00:33:56.030 --> 00:33:57.070
  • Tell us about what's happening.
  • 00:33:57.070 --> 00:33:58.160
  • - Jonathan: Yeah,
  • 00:33:58.160 --> 00:33:59.180
  • I was asked to speak there.
  • 00:33:59.180 --> 00:34:02.020
  • It was some global--a global
  • 00:34:02.020 --> 00:34:03.050
  • summit and I said, "Lord,
  • 00:34:03.050 --> 00:34:04.050
  • what do you want--I don't know
  • 00:34:04.050 --> 00:34:05.100
  • what the theme is."
  • 00:34:05.100 --> 00:34:06.100
  • And it was--the Lord just said,
  • 00:34:06.100 --> 00:34:07.080
  • "Just preach," you know?
  • 00:34:07.080 --> 00:34:08.090
  • So I spoke at the UN and
  • 00:34:08.090 --> 00:34:09.250
  • basically, I shared, you know,
  • 00:34:09.250 --> 00:34:11.240
  • there's a lot of agendas,
  • 00:34:11.240 --> 00:34:12.260
  • but the only agenda that does
  • 00:34:12.260 --> 00:34:14.000
  • anything is the agenda of God.
  • 00:34:14.000 --> 00:34:16.050
  • That's it.
  • 00:34:16.050 --> 00:34:17.070
  • And so there is nothing else.
  • 00:34:17.070 --> 00:34:18.110
  • You know, at the UN,
  • 00:34:18.110 --> 00:34:19.240
  • there's a Scripture that says,
  • 00:34:19.240 --> 00:34:20.280
  • into plowshares."
  • 00:34:23.040 --> 00:34:23.210
  • I said, you know, "That's there.
  • 00:34:23.210 --> 00:34:24.210
  • That's from Isaiah,
  • 00:34:24.210 --> 00:34:25.250
  • which is telling the only answer
  • 00:34:25.250 --> 00:34:27.000
  • is not the UN,
  • 00:34:27.000 --> 00:34:28.070
  • it's the Word of God."
  • 00:34:28.070 --> 00:34:29.130
  • And also, you know, the other
  • 00:34:29.130 --> 00:34:30.120
  • thing at the UN, it's also
  • 00:34:30.120 --> 00:34:31.140
  • often, Israel is attacked,
  • 00:34:31.140 --> 00:34:33.070
  • you know, very much.
  • 00:34:33.070 --> 00:34:34.030
  • - Bobby: It's so true.
  • 00:34:34.030 --> 00:34:34.210
  • "Listen, you call yourself
  • 00:34:36.240 --> 00:34:37.130
  • a believer.
  • 00:34:37.130 --> 00:34:37.290
  • If you love the God of Israel,
  • 00:34:37.290 --> 00:34:38.240
  • you have to love
  • 00:34:38.240 --> 00:34:39.230
  • the Israel of God.
  • 00:34:39.230 --> 00:34:40.190
  • If you love the King
  • 00:34:40.190 --> 00:34:41.140
  • of the Jews, you have to love
  • 00:34:41.140 --> 00:34:42.140
  • the Jewish people, you know,
  • 00:34:42.140 --> 00:34:43.100
  • and pray for them."
  • 00:34:43.100 --> 00:34:44.080
  • And the other thing is,
  • 00:34:44.080 --> 00:34:45.070
  • I share to believers, you know,
  • 00:34:45.070 --> 00:34:46.040
  • the Bible says, "Remember those
  • 00:34:46.040 --> 00:34:47.250
  • who are in chains."
  • 00:34:47.250 --> 00:34:48.230
  • You know, this is the time of
  • 00:34:48.230 --> 00:34:49.210
  • the greatest persecution in the
  • 00:34:49.210 --> 00:34:51.020
  • history of the world right now,
  • 00:34:51.020 --> 00:34:52.080
  • of believers.
  • 00:34:52.080 --> 00:34:53.140
  • And you know, we wanna be
  • 00:34:53.140 --> 00:34:54.120
  • blessed and we're sitting here
  • 00:34:54.120 --> 00:34:55.090
  • watching television but we need
  • 00:34:55.090 --> 00:34:56.090
  • to remember those in chains,
  • 00:34:56.090 --> 00:34:57.170
  • you know.
  • 00:34:57.170 --> 00:34:58.160
  • On that day when Jesus said,
  • 00:34:58.160 --> 00:34:59.170
  • you know, "Listen, what did you
  • 00:34:59.170 --> 00:35:01.150
  • do the least of these?
  • 00:35:01.150 --> 00:35:02.190
  • You know, when I was in prison,
  • 00:35:02.190 --> 00:35:03.280
  • when ISIS was killing me,
  • 00:35:03.280 --> 00:35:04.260
  • what did you do?"
  • 00:35:04.260 --> 00:35:05.240
  • We have to stand up for that.
  • 00:35:05.240 --> 00:35:06.240
  • And the other thing I share
  • 00:35:06.240 --> 00:35:07.210
  • is the Bible says these
  • 00:35:07.210 --> 00:35:08.160
  • are the last days.
  • 00:35:08.160 --> 00:35:09.130
  • You know, we're watching
  • 00:35:09.130 --> 00:35:10.110
  • good called evil
  • 00:35:10.110 --> 00:35:11.070
  • and evil called good.
  • 00:35:11.070 --> 00:35:12.150
  • It is not the time for God's
  • 00:35:12.150 --> 00:35:13.140
  • people to be timid.
  • 00:35:13.140 --> 00:35:16.030
  • It is the time to be bold.
  • 00:35:16.030 --> 00:35:18.020
  • We need to shine.
  • 00:35:18.020 --> 00:35:19.010
  • You know, if the dark is
  • 00:35:19.010 --> 00:35:19.280
  • getting darker, the lights
  • 00:35:19.280 --> 00:35:20.270
  • have to get lighter.
  • 00:35:20.270 --> 00:35:22.000
  • Have to get brighter.
  • 00:35:22.000 --> 00:35:23.010
  • This is our time.
  • 00:35:23.010 --> 00:35:24.000
  • So they didn't kick me out.
  • 00:35:24.000 --> 00:35:25.100
  • That was good.
  • 00:35:25.100 --> 00:35:26.150
  • But, you know, the Lord opened
  • 00:35:26.150 --> 00:35:27.110
  • the door so I shared.
  • 00:35:27.110 --> 00:35:28.230
  • - Bobby: And of course,
  • 00:35:28.230 --> 00:35:29.220
  • the UN is gonna
  • 00:35:29.220 --> 00:35:30.200
  • be multi-religious,
  • 00:35:30.200 --> 00:35:31.160
  • multi-ethnic, multi-national
  • 00:35:31.160 --> 00:35:32.230
  • and getting an invite,
  • 00:35:32.230 --> 00:35:34.040
  • say to speak, you know,
  • 00:35:34.040 --> 00:35:35.090
  • at the Senate for example
  • 00:35:35.090 --> 00:35:36.130
  • would already be impressive,
  • 00:35:36.130 --> 00:35:37.160
  • but to go to the UN.
  • 00:35:37.160 --> 00:35:38.150
  • How did that even happen?
  • 00:35:38.150 --> 00:35:39.180
  • - Jonathan: It just--
  • 00:35:39.180 --> 00:35:40.150
  • You know what, Bobby?
  • 00:35:40.150 --> 00:35:41.070
  • I don't ask.
  • 00:35:41.070 --> 00:35:42.060
  • It just opens and I said, "Okay.
  • 00:35:42.060 --> 00:35:43.100
  • Lord, do you want me
  • 00:35:43.100 --> 00:35:44.090
  • to go there?"
  • 00:35:44.090 --> 00:35:45.110
  • And sometimes people say,
  • 00:35:45.110 --> 00:35:46.050
  • "You know, you gotta have
  • 00:35:46.050 --> 00:35:47.080
  • courage to do that when you--"
  • 00:35:47.080 --> 00:35:48.040
  • I said, "I don't have
  • 00:35:48.040 --> 00:35:48.290
  • the courage, you know.
  • 00:35:48.290 --> 00:35:49.250
  • I'm just more scared of him
  • 00:35:49.250 --> 00:35:50.250
  • than I am of them," you know?
  • 00:35:50.250 --> 00:35:51.160
  • So, you know, I dunno,
  • 00:35:51.160 --> 00:35:52.110
  • there are Muslims there.
  • 00:35:52.110 --> 00:35:53.150
  • I don't think they--I don't know
  • 00:35:53.150 --> 00:35:54.260
  • if they applauded or not
  • 00:35:54.260 --> 00:35:55.260
  • but it doesn't matter, you know.
  • 00:35:55.260 --> 00:35:57.000
  • We need to share,
  • 00:35:57.000 --> 00:35:58.020
  • we need to be bold.
  • 00:35:58.020 --> 00:35:59.060
  • - Bobby: So you write
  • 00:35:59.060 --> 00:36:00.050
  • a lot about the Shemitah.
  • 00:36:00.050 --> 00:36:01.180
  • Maybe just tell us what the
  • 00:36:01.180 --> 00:36:03.010
  • Shemitah is for those who don't
  • 00:36:03.010 --> 00:36:04.040
  • know and give us an update
  • 00:36:04.040 --> 00:36:05.040
  • on what's happening there.
  • 00:36:05.040 --> 00:36:06.110
  • - Jonathan: Yeah,
  • 00:36:06.110 --> 00:36:07.090
  • "The Mystery of the Shemitah"
  • 00:36:07.090 --> 00:36:08.070
  • is what I wrote, and it was
  • 00:36:08.070 --> 00:36:09.120
  • kind of a sequel
  • 00:36:09.120 --> 00:36:10.120
  • to "The Harbinger."
  • 00:36:10.120 --> 00:36:11.070
  • And that is that there's
  • 00:36:11.070 --> 00:36:12.050
  • a mystery from ancient Israel
  • 00:36:12.050 --> 00:36:13.010
  • and basically it's saying that
  • 00:36:13.010 --> 00:36:14.010
  • God's in control of everything.
  • 00:36:14.010 --> 00:36:15.150
  • Every 7th year was a time
  • 00:36:15.150 --> 00:36:17.020
  • of rest.
  • 00:36:17.020 --> 00:36:18.020
  • It was a Sabbath rest.
  • 00:36:18.020 --> 00:36:18.280
  • It was called the Shemitah.
  • 00:36:18.280 --> 00:36:20.130
  • And there was no buying,
  • 00:36:20.130 --> 00:36:21.090
  • no selling.
  • 00:36:21.090 --> 00:36:22.050
  • It was an economic rest.
  • 00:36:22.050 --> 00:36:23.020
  • And at the last day
  • 00:36:23.020 --> 00:36:24.050
  • of the Shemitah something
  • 00:36:24.050 --> 00:36:25.080
  • extraordinary happens.
  • 00:36:25.080 --> 00:36:26.170
  • All debts are wiped out,
  • 00:36:26.170 --> 00:36:27.210
  • all credit's wiped out.
  • 00:36:27.210 --> 00:36:28.230
  • Everything's wiped out.
  • 00:36:28.230 --> 00:36:29.190
  • A financial--it's a wipe-out
  • 00:36:29.190 --> 00:36:31.070
  • on the day called Elul 29.
  • 00:36:31.070 --> 00:36:33.060
  • So it's really a blessing but
  • 00:36:33.060 --> 00:36:35.040
  • when you turn away from God,
  • 00:36:35.040 --> 00:36:36.150
  • those blessings stop being
  • 00:36:36.150 --> 00:36:37.150
  • a blessing.
  • 00:36:37.150 --> 00:36:38.170
  • And so the Shemitah can also
  • 00:36:38.170 --> 00:36:39.140
  • be a judgment.
  • 00:36:39.140 --> 00:36:40.120
  • So what--the thing is
  • 00:36:40.120 --> 00:36:41.130
  • in the last--2001,
  • 00:36:41.130 --> 00:36:43.210
  • that was a Shemitah.
  • 00:36:43.210 --> 00:36:45.030
  • What happens on the last day of
  • 00:36:45.030 --> 00:36:46.120
  • the Shemitah, Elul 29, you have
  • 00:36:46.120 --> 00:36:47.260
  • the greatest Wall Street Crash
  • 00:36:47.260 --> 00:36:49.280
  • in the history of Wall Street,
  • 00:36:49.280 --> 00:36:50.280
  • on the exact day,
  • 00:36:50.280 --> 00:36:52.070
  • once in 7 year day.
  • 00:36:52.070 --> 00:36:53.260
  • Seven years later, on the exact
  • 00:36:53.260 --> 00:36:55.040
  • same day, Elul 29, you have
  • 00:36:55.040 --> 00:36:56.290
  • the other greatest crash
  • 00:36:56.290 --> 00:36:58.130
  • in Wall Street history.
  • 00:36:58.130 --> 00:36:59.160
  • - Bobby: Every 7 years?
  • 00:36:59.160 --> 00:37:00.200
  • - Jonathan: It's every 7 years.
  • 00:37:00.200 --> 00:37:01.190
  • - Bobby: Every time a president
  • 00:37:01.190 --> 00:37:02.160
  • comes into office?
  • 00:37:02.160 --> 00:37:03.150
  • - Jonathan: Well,
  • 00:37:03.150 --> 00:37:04.130
  • we're there, yeah.
  • 00:37:04.130 --> 00:37:05.120
  • So the thing is that--
  • 00:37:05.120 --> 00:37:06.120
  • so right now, so we have that,
  • 00:37:06.120 --> 00:37:07.100
  • but it's not just that.
  • 00:37:07.100 --> 00:37:08.140
  • It's if you look back at the
  • 00:37:08.140 --> 00:37:09.170
  • last 7 Shemitahs, I mean,
  • 00:37:09.170 --> 00:37:11.110
  • it's 50 years,
  • 00:37:11.110 --> 00:37:12.190
  • every single one of them
  • 00:37:12.190 --> 00:37:13.230
  • has seen an economic
  • 00:37:13.230 --> 00:37:14.200
  • or financial collapse.
  • 00:37:14.200 --> 00:37:15.240
  • Every single one.
  • 00:37:15.240 --> 00:37:16.250
  • And now, now, let me give you
  • 00:37:16.250 --> 00:37:18.050
  • caution because I do this,
  • 00:37:18.050 --> 00:37:19.120
  • if you've heard me,
  • 00:37:19.120 --> 00:37:20.120
  • any time I speak about it.
  • 00:37:20.120 --> 00:37:21.160
  • You can't put God in a box.
  • 00:37:21.160 --> 00:37:22.160
  • He doesn't have to do anything
  • 00:37:22.160 --> 00:37:23.160
  • the way you think.
  • 00:37:23.160 --> 00:37:24.170
  • You can't put a date on it.
  • 00:37:24.170 --> 00:37:25.210
  • Stop--you know, but still people
  • 00:37:25.210 --> 00:37:26.210
  • say, "Okay, it's gonna be
  • 00:37:26.210 --> 00:37:27.250
  • the end of the world."
  • 00:37:27.250 --> 00:37:28.240
  • All these things.
  • 00:37:28.240 --> 00:37:29.230
  • You know, I've always warned,
  • 00:37:29.230 --> 00:37:30.230
  • "God doesn't have
  • 00:37:30.230 --> 00:37:31.200
  • to do anything."
  • 00:37:31.200 --> 00:37:32.180
  • But did something happen?
  • 00:37:32.180 --> 00:37:33.160
  • Did the Shemitah manifest,
  • 00:37:33.160 --> 00:37:34.190
  • this last one, 2015?
  • 00:37:34.190 --> 00:37:35.190
  • The answer is absolutely yes,
  • 00:37:35.190 --> 00:37:37.110
  • totally.
  • 00:37:37.110 --> 00:37:38.140
  • The predominant pattern
  • 00:37:38.140 --> 00:37:39.140
  • of the Shemitah
  • 00:37:39.140 --> 00:37:40.180
  • isn't a 1-day crash.
  • 00:37:40.180 --> 00:37:41.250
  • It's a long-term crash where
  • 00:37:41.250 --> 00:37:43.090
  • the stock market's been
  • 00:37:43.090 --> 00:37:44.110
  • going up and going up.
  • 00:37:44.110 --> 00:37:45.090
  • All of a sudden,
  • 00:37:45.090 --> 00:37:46.080
  • it starts collapsing.
  • 00:37:46.080 --> 00:37:47.060
  • I wanna show you.
  • 00:37:47.060 --> 00:37:48.020
  • We'll go through that.
  • 00:37:48.020 --> 00:37:49.010
  • I'm gonna show you some things
  • 00:37:49.010 --> 00:37:50.000
  • up there and it's for the people
  • 00:37:50.000 --> 00:37:50.280
  • watching, I wanna show you
  • 00:37:50.280 --> 00:37:51.280
  • how real God is.
  • 00:37:51.280 --> 00:37:52.250
  • And the point of the Shemitah
  • 00:37:52.250 --> 00:37:53.250
  • is that God is in charge
  • 00:37:53.250 --> 00:37:54.210
  • of our finances.
  • 00:37:54.210 --> 00:37:55.200
  • He's in charge of Wall Street.
  • 00:37:55.200 --> 00:37:56.180
  • He's in charge of everything.
  • 00:37:56.180 --> 00:37:57.210
  • And so I believe you have
  • 00:37:57.210 --> 00:37:59.050
  • a chart there.
  • 00:37:59.050 --> 00:38:00.080
  • I'll show--okay, that is
  • 00:38:00.080 --> 00:38:01.260
  • Wall Street on the Shemitah.
  • 00:38:01.260 --> 00:38:03.020
  • That's what happened.
  • 00:38:03.020 --> 00:38:04.120
  • Notice it peaked and notice when
  • 00:38:04.120 --> 00:38:05.240
  • the Shemitah came it collapsed.
  • 00:38:05.240 --> 00:38:07.120
  • Basically, it's been a long-term
  • 00:38:07.120 --> 00:38:08.220
  • collapse during the Shemitah.
  • 00:38:08.220 --> 00:38:09.250
  • Okay, next one.
  • 00:38:09.250 --> 00:38:11.020
  • And that happened--now that pink
  • 00:38:11.020 --> 00:38:12.250
  • area, that's several years.
  • 00:38:12.250 --> 00:38:13.280
  • That pink area is the Shemitah.
  • 00:38:13.280 --> 00:38:15.010
  • Look what happened.
  • 00:38:15.010 --> 00:38:15.170
  • The rising stock market
  • 00:38:15.170 --> 00:38:16.150
  • has been, again,
  • 00:38:16.150 --> 00:38:17.120
  • begins to collapse.
  • 00:38:17.120 --> 00:38:18.090
  • Not just in America,
  • 00:38:18.090 --> 00:38:19.020
  • around the world.
  • 00:38:19.020 --> 00:38:19.250
  • I mean, the German market
  • 00:38:19.250 --> 00:38:20.280
  • wiped out 25%.
  • 00:38:20.280 --> 00:38:22.110
  • India wiped out 4000 points.
  • 00:38:22.110 --> 00:38:24.150
  • Brazil, 12.000 points.
  • 00:38:24.150 --> 00:38:26.090
  • America, $2 trillion.
  • 00:38:26.090 --> 00:38:28.010
  • The world, $11 trillion.
  • 00:38:28.010 --> 00:38:30.070
  • And China, which is the new
  • 00:38:30.070 --> 00:38:31.230
  • engine of the world economy,
  • 00:38:31.230 --> 00:38:32.260
  • was--saw about half
  • 00:38:32.260 --> 00:38:34.150
  • of its financial realm
  • 00:38:34.150 --> 00:38:35.260
  • totally wiped out.
  • 00:38:35.260 --> 00:38:37.020
  • So now the other--this was
  • 00:38:37.020 --> 00:38:38.080
  • the worst year--I believe
  • 00:38:38.080 --> 00:38:39.120
  • they have another thing there
  • 00:38:39.120 --> 00:38:40.100
  • if you can put that up.
  • 00:38:40.100 --> 00:38:41.090
  • The worst year since, look,
  • 00:38:41.090 --> 00:38:42.110
  • 2008.
  • 00:38:42.110 --> 00:38:43.090
  • 2008 was the last Shemitah.
  • 00:38:43.090 --> 00:38:45.010
  • You know, it's exactly--I mean,
  • 00:38:45.010 --> 00:38:46.210
  • exactly what's in the book,
  • 00:38:46.210 --> 00:38:47.220
  • "The Harbinger,"
  • 00:38:47.220 --> 00:38:48.230
  • and "The Shemitah."
  • 00:38:48.230 --> 00:38:49.190
  • This is exactly the case.
  • 00:38:49.190 --> 00:38:50.130
  • It was the first year
  • 00:38:50.130 --> 00:38:51.110
  • that Wall Street had
  • 00:38:51.110 --> 00:38:52.080
  • a negative return since
  • 00:38:52.080 --> 00:38:53.040
  • the last Shemitah.
  • 00:38:53.040 --> 00:38:54.020
  • But it doesn't just affect
  • 00:38:54.020 --> 00:38:55.110
  • Wall Street.
  • 00:38:55.110 --> 00:38:56.070
  • I believe--let's see
  • 00:38:56.070 --> 00:38:57.040
  • the next one.
  • 00:38:57.040 --> 00:38:58.060
  • World trade and if you read
  • 00:38:58.060 --> 00:38:59.200
  • "The Harbinger" or
  • 00:38:59.200 --> 00:39:00.220
  • "The Mystery of the Shemitah,"
  • 00:39:00.220 --> 00:39:01.220
  • it says and also world trade.
  • 00:39:01.220 --> 00:39:02.200
  • During the Shemitah, they
  • 00:39:02.200 --> 00:39:03.220
  • stopped basically trading.
  • 00:39:03.220 --> 00:39:04.190
  • They stopped farming so there
  • 00:39:04.190 --> 00:39:05.210
  • was no food going on.
  • 00:39:05.210 --> 00:39:06.220
  • So what happened is you had
  • 00:39:06.220 --> 00:39:07.260
  • a collapse of world trade.
  • 00:39:07.260 --> 00:39:09.010
  • It was the greatest collapse
  • 00:39:09.010 --> 00:39:10.070
  • since the last Shemitah.
  • 00:39:10.070 --> 00:39:11.160
  • But there's more than that.
  • 00:39:11.160 --> 00:39:12.160
  • Let's see the next one.
  • 00:39:12.160 --> 00:39:14.150
  • Baltic Dry Index.
  • 00:39:14.150 --> 00:39:15.180
  • That is the index that measures
  • 00:39:15.180 --> 00:39:18.130
  • global trade.
  • 00:39:18.130 --> 00:39:19.280
  • The--during the Shemitah,
  • 00:39:19.280 --> 00:39:21.000
  • the Shemitah of 2015,
  • 00:39:21.000 --> 00:39:22.140
  • the Baltic Index dropped to
  • 00:39:22.140 --> 00:39:23.260
  • its worst level in the history
  • 00:39:23.260 --> 00:39:25.110
  • of the Baltic Dry Index.
  • 00:39:25.110 --> 00:39:26.190
  • I mean, it became
  • 00:39:26.190 --> 00:39:27.210
  • the worst ever.
  • 00:39:27.210 --> 00:39:28.170
  • World trade just
  • 00:39:28.170 --> 00:39:29.210
  • collapsed totally.
  • 00:39:29.210 --> 00:39:31.080
  • At the beginning of 2014, it was
  • 00:39:31.080 --> 00:39:32.160
  • at the--the number was 2000.
  • 00:39:32.160 --> 00:39:34.200
  • By the end of 2015, it was 400.
  • 00:39:34.200 --> 00:39:37.040
  • That's how much had been
  • 00:39:37.040 --> 00:39:38.060
  • wiped out.
  • 00:39:38.060 --> 00:39:39.040
  • Let's see the next one.
  • 00:39:39.040 --> 00:39:40.000
  • Worst year--this is
  • 00:39:40.000 --> 00:39:40.290
  • for commodities.
  • 00:39:40.290 --> 00:39:41.240
  • If you read the books, it speaks
  • 00:39:41.240 --> 00:39:43.050
  • about that what happens during
  • 00:39:43.050 --> 00:39:44.170
  • the Shemitah is that people
  • 00:39:44.170 --> 00:39:46.090
  • don't buy--the fruits of
  • 00:39:46.090 --> 00:39:47.130
  • the land are abandoned.
  • 00:39:47.130 --> 00:39:48.190
  • So the commodity index
  • 00:39:48.190 --> 00:39:49.270
  • collapses.
  • 00:39:49.270 --> 00:39:50.260
  • Next one.
  • 00:39:50.260 --> 00:39:52.010
  • We're gonna go quick.
  • 00:39:52.010 --> 00:39:53.020
  • That's the Shemitah.
  • 00:39:53.020 --> 00:39:54.030
  • That's what happened
  • 00:39:54.030 --> 00:39:55.010
  • to the commodity index.
  • 00:39:55.010 --> 00:39:55.280
  • Everything collapsed.
  • 00:39:55.280 --> 00:39:56.250
  • Next one.
  • 00:39:56.250 --> 00:39:57.260
  • Now, that is--you see
  • 00:39:57.260 --> 00:39:58.270
  • the two pink areas?
  • 00:39:58.270 --> 00:39:59.240
  • Those are the last
  • 00:39:59.240 --> 00:40:00.210
  • two Shemitahs.
  • 00:40:00.210 --> 00:40:01.220
  • That would be the one before it,
  • 00:40:01.220 --> 00:40:02.230
  • it's 2008 and 2015.
  • 00:40:02.230 --> 00:40:03.210
  • Notice what happens
  • 00:40:03.210 --> 00:40:04.190
  • to the price of oil.
  • 00:40:04.190 --> 00:40:05.140
  • It collapses.
  • 00:40:05.140 --> 00:40:06.170
  • I mean, now, we could be--
  • 00:40:06.170 --> 00:40:07.190
  • you can be thankful for that
  • 00:40:07.190 --> 00:40:08.170
  • when you go to the gas station.
  • 00:40:08.170 --> 00:40:09.140
  • You can thank the Shemitah,
  • 00:40:09.140 --> 00:40:10.100
  • you know?
  • 00:40:10.100 --> 00:40:11.070
  • But the thing is that--but it's
  • 00:40:11.070 --> 00:40:12.090
  • bad for the world economy,
  • 00:40:12.090 --> 00:40:13.050
  • it collapses.
  • 00:40:13.050 --> 00:40:14.020
  • Next one.
  • 00:40:14.020 --> 00:40:15.030
  • That is production.
  • 00:40:15.030 --> 00:40:16.170
  • In the books, it talks about
  • 00:40:16.170 --> 00:40:17.280
  • production collapsing.
  • 00:40:17.280 --> 00:40:18.280
  • That is what happened.
  • 00:40:18.280 --> 00:40:19.280
  • That pink is the Shemitah.
  • 00:40:19.280 --> 00:40:20.280
  • Look what happened
  • 00:40:20.280 --> 00:40:21.280
  • to global production.
  • 00:40:21.280 --> 00:40:22.210
  • It just collapsed.
  • 00:40:22.210 --> 00:40:23.160
  • It still is.
  • 00:40:23.160 --> 00:40:24.140
  • Next one.
  • 00:40:24.140 --> 00:40:25.140
  • Next one there?
  • 00:40:25.140 --> 00:40:26.180
  • Okay, world--okay, retail also.
  • 00:40:26.180 --> 00:40:29.070
  • They call it an apocalypse.
  • 00:40:29.070 --> 00:40:30.160
  • Totally collapsed.
  • 00:40:30.160 --> 00:40:31.200
  • People weren't buying.
  • 00:40:31.200 --> 00:40:32.200
  • Next one.
  • 00:40:32.200 --> 00:40:34.090
  • There?
  • 00:40:34.090 --> 00:40:35.140
  • Okay, well, that is also
  • 00:40:35.140 --> 00:40:38.130
  • the stock market collapses
  • 00:40:38.130 --> 00:40:39.270
  • completely as well.
  • 00:40:39.270 --> 00:40:41.090
  • You saw collapse all over.
  • 00:40:41.090 --> 00:40:42.270
  • And not only that, if you do
  • 00:40:42.270 --> 00:40:43.290
  • the next one, that--there's
  • 00:40:43.290 --> 00:40:45.040
  • something in the Bible when
  • 00:40:45.040 --> 00:40:46.090
  • it--yeah, you can keep it there.
  • 00:40:46.090 --> 00:40:47.140
  • There's something
  • 00:40:47.140 --> 00:40:48.150
  • that's called tebuah.
  • 00:40:48.150 --> 00:40:49.170
  • When it talks about the Shemitah
  • 00:40:49.170 --> 00:40:50.140
  • and the Jubilee, it says
  • 00:40:50.140 --> 00:40:51.160
  • you won't have tebuah.
  • 00:40:51.160 --> 00:40:52.180
  • That's Hebrew.
  • 00:40:52.180 --> 00:40:53.180
  • Tebuah means fruit but it also
  • 00:40:53.180 --> 00:40:54.280
  • means income and earnings.
  • 00:40:54.280 --> 00:40:56.210
  • So what happened, that graph
  • 00:40:56.210 --> 00:40:57.250
  • you just saw was earnings
  • 00:40:57.250 --> 00:40:59.190
  • collapsed the same way.
  • 00:40:59.190 --> 00:41:00.290
  • Let's see the next one.
  • 00:41:00.290 --> 00:41:02.060
  • That's the Shemitah.
  • 00:41:02.060 --> 00:41:03.130
  • "20--was the hardest year
  • 00:41:03.130 --> 00:41:04.210
  • to make money in 78 years."
  • 00:41:04.210 --> 00:41:07.070
  • It goes back
  • 00:41:07.070 --> 00:41:07.220
  • to the Great Depression.
  • 00:41:07.220 --> 00:41:09.010
  • That's how bad.
  • 00:41:09.010 --> 00:41:09.290
  • It was worse than any other year
  • 00:41:09.290 --> 00:41:10.280
  • for making money.
  • 00:41:10.280 --> 00:41:11.290
  • It goes back to the year 1937
  • 00:41:11.290 --> 00:41:13.090
  • which was the year
  • 00:41:13.090 --> 00:41:14.070
  • of the Shemitah, okay?
  • 00:41:14.070 --> 00:41:15.080
  • The other question is, where
  • 00:41:15.080 --> 00:41:16.110
  • there any great day crashes
  • 00:41:16.110 --> 00:41:17.240
  • in the Shemitah?
  • 00:41:17.240 --> 00:41:19.030
  • Let's look at the next one.
  • 00:41:19.030 --> 00:41:20.200
  • Twenty percent of the worst
  • 00:41:20.200 --> 00:41:21.220
  • stock market crashes happened
  • 00:41:21.220 --> 00:41:23.120
  • in the Shemitah of 2015,
  • 00:41:23.120 --> 00:41:24.190
  • 20% of them.
  • 00:41:24.190 --> 00:41:26.050
  • Let's see the next one.
  • 00:41:26.050 --> 00:41:28.010
  • That is now--that pink there is
  • 00:41:28.010 --> 00:41:29.160
  • the month of Elul.
  • 00:41:29.160 --> 00:41:30.230
  • Now, if you've read--if you read
  • 00:41:30.230 --> 00:41:32.020
  • "The Harbinger" and "Shemitah,"
  • 00:41:32.020 --> 00:41:33.050
  • the month of Elul is the month
  • 00:41:33.050 --> 00:41:34.110
  • in the Shemitah
  • 00:41:34.110 --> 00:41:35.180
  • where you're leading up
  • 00:41:35.180 --> 00:41:36.230
  • to this financial wipe-out.
  • 00:41:36.230 --> 00:41:38.290
  • So what happened is last--
  • 00:41:38.290 --> 00:41:40.110
  • if you remember, last August,
  • 00:41:40.110 --> 00:41:41.170
  • everything collapsed.
  • 00:41:41.170 --> 00:41:42.210
  • Black Monday, China collapsed.
  • 00:41:42.210 --> 00:41:43.240
  • That was the month of Elul.
  • 00:41:43.240 --> 00:41:45.240
  • That was the peak
  • 00:41:45.240 --> 00:41:46.250
  • of the Shemitah.
  • 00:41:46.250 --> 00:41:47.220
  • It all collapsed.
  • 00:41:47.220 --> 00:41:48.160
  • You had some of the worst days
  • 00:41:48.160 --> 00:41:49.140
  • in the history
  • 00:41:49.140 --> 00:41:50.120
  • of the stock market.
  • 00:41:50.120 --> 00:41:51.050
  • Next one.
  • 00:41:51.050 --> 00:41:52.080
  • Okay, that, as we get to
  • 00:41:52.080 --> 00:41:53.190
  • the last ones, that is a chart
  • 00:41:53.190 --> 00:41:55.030
  • of the worst day crashes
  • 00:41:55.030 --> 00:41:56.140
  • in history.
  • 00:41:56.140 --> 00:41:58.110
  • The yellow if now--the yellow is
  • 00:41:58.110 --> 00:42:00.100
  • how many happened in the year
  • 00:42:00.100 --> 00:42:01.190
  • of a Shemitah.
  • 00:42:01.190 --> 00:42:03.010
  • So in other words, that goes
  • 00:42:03.010 --> 00:42:04.030
  • against all odds.
  • 00:42:04.030 --> 00:42:05.040
  • Now, the next 1, the last 2,
  • 00:42:05.040 --> 00:42:06.260
  • that--those are 7 of the
  • 00:42:06.260 --> 00:42:08.190
  • greatest crashes of the last,
  • 00:42:08.190 --> 00:42:10.050
  • like, 15 years there, actually,
  • 00:42:10.050 --> 00:42:11.230
  • of history.
  • 00:42:11.230 --> 00:42:13.010
  • But that's 15 years.
  • 00:42:13.010 --> 00:42:14.000
  • You see the crashes?
  • 00:42:14.000 --> 00:42:15.030
  • Those are the seven greatest
  • 00:42:15.030 --> 00:42:16.110
  • crashes or--of the top ten.
  • 00:42:16.110 --> 00:42:18.120
  • Now, the last one, you're gonna
  • 00:42:18.120 --> 00:42:20.030
  • see a line that's gonna show you
  • 00:42:20.030 --> 00:42:22.030
  • Elul 29, which is the day that
  • 00:42:22.030 --> 00:42:24.080
  • appointed by God of wipe-out.
  • 00:42:24.080 --> 00:42:25.240
  • Let's see what happens.
  • 00:42:25.240 --> 00:42:27.010
  • Look, every single one of them
  • 00:42:27.010 --> 00:42:28.120
  • happens at the time
  • 00:42:28.120 --> 00:42:29.260
  • that God ordained
  • 00:42:29.260 --> 00:42:31.150
  • for the financial wipe-out.
  • 00:42:31.150 --> 00:42:32.190
  • So I'm giving you
  • 00:42:32.190 --> 00:42:33.230
  • just an idea of this.
  • 00:42:33.230 --> 00:42:34.230
  • But the fact is, listen,
  • 00:42:34.230 --> 00:42:36.020
  • it happened.
  • 00:42:36.020 --> 00:42:37.050
  • God is in charge of our finances
  • 00:42:37.050 --> 00:42:39.090
  • and Wall Street isn't.
  • 00:42:39.090 --> 00:42:40.100
  • Your bank is not.
  • 00:42:40.100 --> 00:42:41.140
  • God is in charge of everything
  • 00:42:41.140 --> 00:42:42.280
  • we have.
  • 00:42:42.280 --> 00:42:44.000
  • That's what it's saying.
  • 00:42:44.000 --> 00:42:45.000
  • God is in charge of the world.
  • 00:42:45.000 --> 00:42:46.070
  • So everything that happens
  • 00:42:46.070 --> 00:42:47.130
  • is in the hands of God.
  • 00:42:47.130 --> 00:42:48.140
  • But it absolutely has happened
  • 00:42:48.140 --> 00:42:49.240
  • according to that mystery.
  • 00:42:49.240 --> 00:42:50.280
  • Now, it didn't have to happen,
  • 00:42:50.280 --> 00:42:52.070
  • but it did.
  • 00:42:52.070 --> 00:42:53.080
  • - Bobby: So I mean, as I'm
  • 00:42:53.080 --> 00:42:54.080
  • listening to you, it sounds
  • 00:42:54.080 --> 00:42:55.080
  • like Shemitah's always,
  • 00:42:55.080 --> 00:42:56.090
  • to understand you right,
  • 00:42:56.090 --> 00:42:57.080
  • is really has to do
  • 00:42:57.080 --> 00:42:58.080
  • with the economy.
  • 00:42:58.080 --> 00:42:59.090
  • - Jonathan: More than that.
  • 00:42:59.090 --> 00:43:00.140
  • Because it's economy, finance,
  • 00:43:00.140 --> 00:43:02.070
  • but even you can see the rise
  • 00:43:02.070 --> 00:43:03.130
  • and fall of nations.
  • 00:43:03.130 --> 00:43:04.220
  • With Israel, you--actually,
  • 00:43:04.220 --> 00:43:06.050
  • we'll go into that.
  • 00:43:06.050 --> 00:43:07.040
  • - Bobby: You said it's not
  • 00:43:07.040 --> 00:43:08.050
  • always judgment, right?
  • 00:43:08.050 --> 00:43:09.030
  • Sometimes it's blessing?
  • 00:43:09.030 --> 00:43:10.000
  • - Jonathan: It could
  • 00:43:10.000 --> 00:43:10.280
  • be blessing.
  • 00:43:10.280 --> 00:43:11.240
  • Look, if you're following God,
  • 00:43:11.240 --> 00:43:12.230
  • everything's a blessing,
  • 00:43:12.230 --> 00:43:13.130
  • you know?
  • 00:43:13.130 --> 00:43:13.280
  • the blessings are not blessings,
  • 00:43:16.040 --> 00:43:16.260
  • you know.
  • 00:43:16.260 --> 00:43:17.070
  • You know, what happened
  • 00:43:17.070 --> 00:43:17.270
  • in this year, you know,
  • 00:43:17.270 --> 00:43:18.210
  • the word Shemitah in the Hebrew
  • 00:43:18.210 --> 00:43:19.160
  • can mean the Fall.
  • 00:43:19.160 --> 00:43:20.110
  • Well, during this year of the
  • 00:43:20.110 --> 00:43:21.050
  • Shemitah, what happened
  • 00:43:21.050 --> 00:43:22.020
  • is America--the American age
  • 00:43:22.020 --> 00:43:22.280
  • began in 1871 when it became
  • 00:43:22.280 --> 00:43:23.220
  • the greatest economic power
  • 00:43:23.220 --> 00:43:24.160
  • on earth.
  • 00:43:24.160 --> 00:43:25.130
  • Well, do you know that in this
  • 00:43:25.130 --> 00:43:26.080
  • Shemitah that age came
  • 00:43:26.080 --> 00:43:27.030
  • to an end?
  • 00:43:27.030 --> 00:43:28.030
  • China is now--the age,
  • 00:43:30.180 --> 00:43:32.100
  • 140-year age changed hands
  • 00:43:32.120 --> 00:43:35.120
  • in this Shemitah.
  • 00:43:35.120 --> 00:43:36.120
  • So it could mean that as well.
  • 00:43:36.120 --> 00:43:37.130
  • So it has really affected
  • 00:43:37.130 --> 00:43:38.130
  • everything so much.
  • 00:43:38.130 --> 00:43:40.030
  • - Bobby: What do you say
  • 00:43:40.030 --> 00:43:40.290
  • to guys that say, I mean,
  • 00:43:40.290 --> 00:43:41.270
  • as I'm hearing this,
  • 00:43:41.270 --> 00:43:42.250
  • I wanna always play
  • 00:43:42.250 --> 00:43:43.290
  • devil's advocate and say,
  • 00:43:43.290 --> 00:43:44.280
  • "You know, what if this
  • 00:43:44.280 --> 00:43:45.270
  • is post-talk?
  • 00:43:45.270 --> 00:43:46.210
  • I mean, are you looking
  • 00:43:46.210 --> 00:43:48.030
  • for something because it's
  • 00:43:48.030 --> 00:43:49.030
  • the Shemitah or--"
  • 00:43:49.030 --> 00:43:50.190
  • - Jonathan: Nothing, well.
  • 00:43:50.190 --> 00:43:51.240
  • Well, first of all, yeah,
  • 00:43:51.240 --> 00:43:52.220
  • the interesting thing is that I
  • 00:43:52.220 --> 00:43:53.230
  • wrote the book before the
  • 00:43:53.230 --> 00:43:54.190
  • Shemitah and the things that
  • 00:43:54.190 --> 00:43:55.180
  • happened, happened during the
  • 00:43:55.180 --> 00:43:56.240
  • Shemitah after I wrote the book,
  • 00:43:56.240 --> 00:43:58.010
  • so no.
  • 00:43:58.010 --> 00:43:58.290
  • - Bobby: So you're also looking
  • 00:43:58.290 --> 00:43:59.250
  • to 2022.
  • 00:43:59.250 --> 00:44:01.010
  • - Jonathan: I'm not really
  • 00:44:01.010 --> 00:44:01.250
  • looking there, Bobby.
  • 00:44:01.250 --> 00:44:02.220
  • I'm looking right now.
  • 00:44:02.220 --> 00:44:04.110
  • And listen, the thing is this.
  • 00:44:04.110 --> 00:44:05.200
  • It's not to put God in a box.
  • 00:44:05.200 --> 00:44:06.230
  • It's not to predict.
  • 00:44:06.230 --> 00:44:07.270
  • The fact is, but it is to say
  • 00:44:07.270 --> 00:44:08.270
  • that God is in charge
  • 00:44:08.270 --> 00:44:10.190
  • of everything we do.
  • 00:44:10.190 --> 00:44:12.070
  • - Bobby: And that's why you do
  • 00:44:12.070 --> 00:44:13.010
  • this, right?
  • 00:44:13.010 --> 00:44:13.250
  • I mean, you're doing this
  • 00:44:13.250 --> 00:44:14.180
  • to encourage people.
  • 00:44:14.180 --> 00:44:15.150
  • I loved what you just said that,
  • 00:44:15.150 --> 00:44:16.140
  • look, you--we always feel
  • 00:44:16.140 --> 00:44:17.180
  • so afraid, like it's random
  • 00:44:17.180 --> 00:44:19.120
  • or like it's--it's not, is it?
  • 00:44:19.120 --> 00:44:21.070
  • - Jonathan: It's not random,
  • 00:44:21.070 --> 00:44:22.050
  • no.
  • 00:44:22.050 --> 00:44:22.280
  • And the other thing is that's
  • 00:44:22.280 --> 00:44:23.250
  • what, you know, what struck me,
  • 00:44:23.250 --> 00:44:24.210
  • Bobby, is when I wrote
  • 00:44:24.210 --> 00:44:25.150
  • "The Harbinger," the people--
  • 00:44:25.150 --> 00:44:26.110
  • a lot of believers,
  • 00:44:26.110 --> 00:44:27.080
  • and some people say
  • 00:44:27.080 --> 00:44:28.050
  • "I'm scared," a lot of believers
  • 00:44:28.050 --> 00:44:29.010
  • said, "You know what?
  • 00:44:29.010 --> 00:44:30.000
  • That gave me so much comfort."
  • 00:44:30.000 --> 00:44:31.020
  • I said, "Really?
  • 00:44:31.020 --> 00:44:32.010
  • Tell me."
  • 00:44:32.010 --> 00:44:32.270
  • They said, "Well, it's telling
  • 00:44:32.270 --> 00:44:33.230
  • me that God is in charge
  • 00:44:33.230 --> 00:44:34.230
  • of everything, the future,
  • 00:44:34.230 --> 00:44:36.080
  • everything.
  • 00:44:36.080 --> 00:44:37.060
  • It's not out of control,"
  • 00:44:37.060 --> 00:44:38.040
  • you know.
  • 00:44:38.040 --> 00:44:39.030
  • And really what "The Harbinger"
  • 00:44:39.030 --> 00:44:40.000
  • was showing is that what a lot
  • 00:44:40.000 --> 00:44:40.260
  • of believers already felt
  • 00:44:40.260 --> 00:44:41.200
  • in their heart is not something
  • 00:44:41.200 --> 00:44:42.250
  • you just felt.
  • 00:44:42.250 --> 00:44:43.250
  • It's real.
  • 00:44:43.250 --> 00:44:44.240
  • That God is in charge and he
  • 00:44:44.240 --> 00:44:45.220
  • warns because he loves,
  • 00:44:45.220 --> 00:44:47.230
  • because he is calling us
  • 00:44:47.230 --> 00:44:48.290
  • from judgment,
  • 00:44:48.290 --> 00:44:50.040
  • but it's up to us to listen.
  • 00:44:50.040 --> 00:44:51.080
  • - Bobby: And it's such a great
  • 00:44:51.080 --> 00:44:52.050
  • word too because I mean, to my
  • 00:44:52.050 --> 00:44:54.050
  • mind comes the famous, you know,
  • 00:44:54.050 --> 00:44:55.220
  • "If my people who are called by
  • 00:44:55.220 --> 00:44:56.270
  • my name will humble themselves
  • 00:44:56.270 --> 00:44:58.170
  • and pray and seek my face."
  • 00:44:58.170 --> 00:45:00.040
  • I mean, there is that promise
  • 00:45:00.040 --> 00:45:01.130
  • from God that he'll, you know,
  • 00:45:01.130 --> 00:45:02.230
  • that there is a response to
  • 00:45:02.230 --> 00:45:04.100
  • people who pray, who humble
  • 00:45:04.100 --> 00:45:05.260
  • themselves, who repent,
  • 00:45:05.260 --> 00:45:07.200
  • that in many ways the success
  • 00:45:07.200 --> 00:45:09.280
  • of our nation is directly
  • 00:45:09.280 --> 00:45:11.190
  • related to our pursuit of God
  • 00:45:11.190 --> 00:45:13.260
  • and our pursuit of holiness.
  • 00:45:13.260 --> 00:45:15.080
  • - Jonathan: Yeah, as it was
  • 00:45:15.080 --> 00:45:16.070
  • with Israel.
  • 00:45:16.070 --> 00:45:17.050
  • You know, America, Bobby,
  • 00:45:17.050 --> 00:45:18.010
  • was founded after the pattern
  • 00:45:18.010 --> 00:45:19.020
  • of Israel.
  • 00:45:19.020 --> 00:45:20.030
  • There's only two nations in the
  • 00:45:20.030 --> 00:45:21.050
  • history of the world that were
  • 00:45:21.050 --> 00:45:22.170
  • founded solely on the Word
  • 00:45:22.170 --> 00:45:25.010
  • of God and one was Israel
  • 00:45:25.010 --> 00:45:26.130
  • and the other was America
  • 00:45:26.130 --> 00:45:28.030
  • when the Puritans
  • 00:45:28.030 --> 00:45:29.030
  • dedicated it to God.
  • 00:45:29.030 --> 00:45:30.020
  • That's it.
  • 00:45:30.020 --> 00:45:30.290
  • And they founded it
  • 00:45:30.290 --> 00:45:31.270
  • after the pattern
  • 00:45:31.270 --> 00:45:32.260
  • but, well, a lot of people,
  • 00:45:32.260 --> 00:45:33.230
  • you know, when you--they talk
  • 00:45:33.230 --> 00:45:34.230
  • about the city on the hill,
  • 00:45:34.230 --> 00:45:35.270
  • which is from the Puritans,
  • 00:45:35.270 --> 00:45:36.200
  • you know, and it's
  • 00:45:36.200 --> 00:45:37.190
  • a great thing.
  • 00:45:37.190 --> 00:45:38.130
  • But they don't read
  • 00:45:38.130 --> 00:45:39.090
  • the next part of it.
  • 00:45:39.090 --> 00:45:40.040
  • The next part of city on a hill
  • 00:45:40.040 --> 00:45:41.000
  • is a warning.
  • 00:45:41.000 --> 00:45:41.270
  • It says God'll bless us
  • 00:45:41.270 --> 00:45:42.230
  • if we follow him.
  • 00:45:42.230 --> 00:45:43.180
  • We'll be the most--the greatest
  • 00:45:43.180 --> 00:45:44.140
  • people on earth if--we'll have
  • 00:45:44.140 --> 00:45:45.250
  • the blessings of God.
  • 00:45:45.250 --> 00:45:46.230
  • But if we turn away
  • 00:45:46.230 --> 00:45:48.010
  • from God, as Israel did,
  • 00:45:48.010 --> 00:45:49.210
  • then the judgments
  • 00:45:49.210 --> 00:45:51.040
  • of Israel will come upon us.
  • 00:45:51.040 --> 00:45:52.160
  • Well, "The Harbinger" is saying
  • 00:45:52.160 --> 00:45:53.280
  • that's not just talk.
  • 00:45:53.280 --> 00:45:54.250
  • It's actually warning us
  • 00:45:54.250 --> 00:45:55.260
  • right now.
  • 00:45:55.260 --> 00:45:56.260
  • - Bobby: And the other word,
  • 00:45:56.260 --> 00:45:57.260
  • the harbinger.
  • 00:45:57.260 --> 00:45:58.230
  • Tell us a little bit about that.
  • 00:45:58.230 --> 00:45:59.200
  • You wrote on this.
  • 00:45:59.200 --> 00:46:00.180
  • What is the harbinger?
  • 00:46:00.180 --> 00:46:01.170
  • And what harbingers are coming?
  • 00:46:01.170 --> 00:46:02.160
  • - Jonathan: Harbinger--
  • 00:46:02.160 --> 00:46:03.140
  • the harbinger means
  • 00:46:03.140 --> 00:46:04.130
  • the kind of foreshadow.
  • 00:46:04.130 --> 00:46:05.110
  • It means the warning.
  • 00:46:05.110 --> 00:46:06.090
  • And here's what it is.
  • 00:46:06.090 --> 00:46:07.140
  • In the last days of ancient
  • 00:46:07.140 --> 00:46:08.120
  • Israel, there was--there are
  • 00:46:08.120 --> 00:46:10.060
  • signs that appeared in the land
  • 00:46:10.060 --> 00:46:12.050
  • that were warning them,
  • 00:46:12.050 --> 00:46:13.110
  • harbingers, of judgment.
  • 00:46:13.110 --> 00:46:15.010
  • God was calling them back.
  • 00:46:15.010 --> 00:46:16.140
  • They didn't listen.
  • 00:46:16.140 --> 00:46:17.130
  • They ignored God.
  • 00:46:17.130 --> 00:46:18.120
  • And they actually made a vow,
  • 00:46:18.120 --> 00:46:20.010
  • saying, "We're gonna come back
  • 00:46:20.010 --> 00:46:21.020
  • stronger and greater and bigger
  • 00:46:21.020 --> 00:46:22.020
  • and without God."
  • 00:46:22.020 --> 00:46:23.110
  • And they were judged.
  • 00:46:23.110 --> 00:46:24.100
  • They were destroyed.
  • 00:46:24.100 --> 00:46:25.110
  • Well, the eerie thing
  • 00:46:25.110 --> 00:46:26.070
  • or the stunning thing
  • 00:46:26.070 --> 00:46:27.070
  • or the amazing thing
  • 00:46:27.070 --> 00:46:28.060
  • is the same harbingers
  • 00:46:28.060 --> 00:46:29.000
  • that appeared in ancient Israel
  • 00:46:29.000 --> 00:46:30.100
  • have now appeared in America.
  • 00:46:30.100 --> 00:46:32.070
  • Some have appeared
  • 00:46:32.070 --> 00:46:33.070
  • in Washington, D.C.
  • 00:46:33.070 --> 00:46:34.040
  • Some have appeared
  • 00:46:34.040 --> 00:46:35.040
  • in New York City
  • 00:46:35.040 --> 00:46:36.020
  • around where we are.
  • 00:46:36.020 --> 00:46:37.040
  • - Bobby: What were they?
  • 00:46:37.040 --> 00:46:38.040
  • - Jonathan: Oh, there's nine
  • 00:46:38.040 --> 00:46:39.020
  • of 'em.
  • 00:46:39.020 --> 00:46:39.270
  • - Bobby: Okay, yeah.
  • 00:46:39.270 --> 00:46:40.240
  • Yeah, sure.
  • 00:46:40.240 --> 00:46:41.220
  • - Jonathan: I mean,
  • 00:46:41.220 --> 00:46:42.170
  • without going into detail,
  • 00:46:42.170 --> 00:46:43.130
  • but they're in the book,
  • 00:46:43.130 --> 00:46:44.100
  • you know.
  • 00:46:44.100 --> 00:46:45.060
  • But it's, you know, there's
  • 00:46:45.060 --> 00:46:46.030
  • the harbinger of the tree
  • 00:46:46.030 --> 00:46:47.000
  • of judgment being struck down,
  • 00:46:47.000 --> 00:46:47.270
  • which happened.
  • 00:46:47.270 --> 00:46:48.220
  • There's the harbinger of the
  • 00:46:48.220 --> 00:46:49.170
  • stone of judgment that appeared
  • 00:46:49.170 --> 00:46:50.140
  • in New York City.
  • 00:46:50.140 --> 00:46:51.060
  • Many of these things appeared
  • 00:46:51.060 --> 00:46:52.060
  • in--at Ground Zero.
  • 00:46:52.060 --> 00:46:53.080
  • There's the harbinger of
  • 00:46:53.080 --> 00:46:54.040
  • the tower that's been going up
  • 00:46:54.040 --> 00:46:55.130
  • at Ground Zero.
  • 00:46:55.130 --> 00:46:56.130
  • There's the harbinger
  • 00:46:56.130 --> 00:46:57.100
  • that actually involved
  • 00:46:57.100 --> 00:46:58.090
  • American leaders pronouncing
  • 00:46:58.090 --> 00:47:00.020
  • judgment on America
  • 00:47:00.020 --> 00:47:01.170
  • without realizing what they
  • 00:47:01.170 --> 00:47:02.160
  • were doing, even the President
  • 00:47:02.160 --> 00:47:04.020
  • of the United States,
  • 00:47:04.020 --> 00:47:05.070
  • and they're actually pronouncing
  • 00:47:05.070 --> 00:47:06.190
  • the words that ancient Israel
  • 00:47:06.190 --> 00:47:08.010
  • said in their day of judgment,
  • 00:47:08.010 --> 00:47:09.170
  • word for word.
  • 00:47:09.170 --> 00:47:11.010
  • So I mean, there's nine of them
  • 00:47:11.010 --> 00:47:12.030
  • and there's more.
  • 00:47:12.030 --> 00:47:13.050
  • So the thing is
  • 00:47:13.050 --> 00:47:14.020
  • every single one.
  • 00:47:14.020 --> 00:47:15.000
  • Some have involved the President
  • 00:47:15.000 --> 00:47:15.260
  • of the United States.
  • 00:47:15.260 --> 00:47:16.230
  • Every--and since the book came
  • 00:47:16.230 --> 00:47:17.230
  • out, they haven't stopped.
  • 00:47:17.230 --> 00:47:19.030
  • And--because America,
  • 00:47:19.030 --> 00:47:20.170
  • unfortunately--I'm not talking
  • 00:47:20.170 --> 00:47:21.200
  • about believers who are seeking
  • 00:47:21.200 --> 00:47:22.190
  • God, but the culture has been
  • 00:47:22.190 --> 00:47:24.070
  • racing away from God.
  • 00:47:24.070 --> 00:47:25.160
  • I mean, we have to be--
  • 00:47:25.160 --> 00:47:26.160
  • We have to face the fact here.
  • 00:47:26.160 --> 00:47:28.050
  • And so the harbingers
  • 00:47:28.050 --> 00:47:29.090
  • have continued, and I'll
  • 00:47:29.090 --> 00:47:30.130
  • just tell you something.
  • 00:47:30.130 --> 00:47:31.190
  • I mean, this is in
  • 00:47:31.190 --> 00:47:32.200
  • the just recent times.
  • 00:47:32.200 --> 00:47:34.080
  • I'll just tell you some things
  • 00:47:34.080 --> 00:47:35.050
  • that have happened.
  • 00:47:35.050 --> 00:47:36.020
  • You know, Bobby, one of the
  • 00:47:36.020 --> 00:47:37.000
  • signs of warning and judgment
  • 00:47:37.000 --> 00:47:38.270
  • in the Bible is that when a--
  • 00:47:38.270 --> 00:47:41.160
  • when, before judgment comes,
  • 00:47:41.160 --> 00:47:43.180
  • there's often an act
  • 00:47:43.180 --> 00:47:44.190
  • of desecration and that--
  • 00:47:44.190 --> 00:47:46.010
  • you know, God shows Ezekiel
  • 00:47:46.010 --> 00:47:47.020
  • what--the desecration
  • 00:47:47.020 --> 00:47:48.010
  • of the temple.
  • 00:47:48.010 --> 00:47:49.040
  • He says, "Judgment's coming."
  • 00:47:49.040 --> 00:47:50.010
  • Daniel is in Babylon
  • 00:47:50.010 --> 00:47:51.150
  • and the king of Babylon says,
  • 00:47:51.150 --> 00:47:52.240
  • "We're gonna have a party.
  • 00:47:52.240 --> 00:47:54.020
  • Bring in the vessels
  • 00:47:54.020 --> 00:47:55.010
  • of Babylon."
  • 00:47:55.010 --> 00:47:55.270
  • I mean, actually,
  • 00:47:55.270 --> 00:47:56.240
  • "Bring the vessels
  • 00:47:56.240 --> 00:47:57.200
  • of the temple, the holy vessels,
  • 00:47:57.200 --> 00:47:58.210
  • and we're gonna party
  • 00:47:58.210 --> 00:47:59.200
  • with them to the gods."
  • 00:47:59.200 --> 00:48:00.220
  • And at that moment,
  • 00:48:00.220 --> 00:48:01.270
  • the hand appears on the wall
  • 00:48:01.270 --> 00:48:03.030
  • and says, "Judgment."
  • 00:48:03.030 --> 00:48:04.090
  • Desecration comes
  • 00:48:04.090 --> 00:48:05.160
  • before judgment.
  • 00:48:05.160 --> 00:48:06.180
  • Well, let me say something
  • 00:48:06.180 --> 00:48:07.190
  • and we have to speak
  • 00:48:07.190 --> 00:48:08.170
  • the truth and that is that even
  • 00:48:08.170 --> 00:48:10.030
  • as sacred as the vessels
  • 00:48:10.030 --> 00:48:11.230
  • of the temple were,
  • 00:48:11.230 --> 00:48:13.030
  • that's as sacred as marriage
  • 00:48:13.030 --> 00:48:14.210
  • is to God.
  • 00:48:14.210 --> 00:48:15.270
  • And this year of the Shemitah
  • 00:48:15.270 --> 00:48:17.110
  • which also means the Fall,
  • 00:48:17.110 --> 00:48:18.170
  • we crossed a line here.
  • 00:48:18.170 --> 00:48:19.220
  • And you cannot take the things
  • 00:48:19.220 --> 00:48:21.120
  • of God and turn them
  • 00:48:21.120 --> 00:48:22.150
  • against their purpose.
  • 00:48:22.150 --> 00:48:23.190
  • And God loves all people
  • 00:48:23.190 --> 00:48:24.190
  • but the nation is turning away
  • 00:48:24.190 --> 00:48:25.270
  • from God.
  • 00:48:25.270 --> 00:48:26.230
  • And so what happened is we have
  • 00:48:26.230 --> 00:48:27.250
  • struck down the order of God.
  • 00:48:27.250 --> 00:48:29.000
  • Now, if you've read
  • 00:48:29.000 --> 00:48:30.020
  • "The Harbinger,"
  • 00:48:30.020 --> 00:48:31.090
  • there's a warning
  • 00:48:31.090 --> 00:48:32.110
  • that George Washington gave
  • 00:48:32.110 --> 00:48:33.160
  • on the first day of America's
  • 00:48:33.160 --> 00:48:34.150
  • existence as a nation.
  • 00:48:34.150 --> 00:48:36.030
  • And he said--there's a warning.
  • 00:48:36.030 --> 00:48:37.110
  • he says, "The smiles of heaven
  • 00:48:37.110 --> 00:48:39.030
  • will be removed from the land
  • 00:48:39.030 --> 00:48:40.100
  • if we turn away
  • 00:48:40.100 --> 00:48:41.140
  • from the order of God."
  • 00:48:41.140 --> 00:48:43.000
  • Well, listen.
  • 00:48:43.000 --> 00:48:44.000
  • It happened.
  • 00:48:44.000 --> 00:48:44.280
  • And what happened all across
  • 00:48:44.280 --> 00:48:45.290
  • America when we struck down
  • 00:48:45.290 --> 00:48:47.010
  • marriage is they celebrated
  • 00:48:47.010 --> 00:48:49.100
  • with the sign of the rainbow.
  • 00:48:49.100 --> 00:48:50.110
  • Now I have to say this.
  • 00:48:50.110 --> 00:48:51.150
  • I've said it before.
  • 00:48:51.150 --> 00:48:52.140
  • The rainbow does not belong
  • 00:48:52.140 --> 00:48:53.120
  • to man.
  • 00:48:53.120 --> 00:48:54.100
  • The rainbow belongs to God.
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  • It's a holy sign of God.
  • 00:48:55.070 --> 00:48:57.240
  • And to take that to celebrate
  • 00:48:57.240 --> 00:48:59.010
  • that, it's a double desecration.
  • 00:48:59.010 --> 00:49:00.200
  • And then the White House,
  • 00:49:00.200 --> 00:49:02.150
  • the highest house of the land,
  • 00:49:02.150 --> 00:49:04.170
  • it--they actually projected
  • 00:49:04.170 --> 00:49:06.090
  • on to celebrate.
  • 00:49:06.090 --> 00:49:07.130
  • The White House becomes
  • 00:49:07.130 --> 00:49:08.130
  • a vessel of desecration.
  • 00:49:08.130 --> 00:49:09.200
  • This is like how much more can
  • 00:49:09.200 --> 00:49:10.230
  • we do in the face of God?
  • 00:49:10.230 --> 00:49:12.020
  • And the other thing is,
  • 00:49:12.020 --> 00:49:13.030
  • you know, that, you know,
  • 00:49:13.030 --> 00:49:14.160
  • there's a day, Bobby,
  • 00:49:14.160 --> 00:49:15.190
  • in the history of Israel
  • 00:49:15.190 --> 00:49:17.050
  • when the walls that protected it
  • 00:49:17.150 --> 00:49:20.150
  • from judgment were taken down,
  • 00:49:20.150 --> 00:49:22.000
  • were crushed by the Babylonians.
  • 00:49:22.000 --> 00:49:23.260
  • That day is called
  • 00:49:23.260 --> 00:49:24.250
  • the 9th of Tammuz.
  • 00:49:24.250 --> 00:49:26.000
  • Do you know what happened
  • 00:49:26.000 --> 00:49:26.290
  • on that day?
  • 00:49:26.290 --> 00:49:27.260
  • That's the day we struck down
  • 00:49:27.260 --> 00:49:28.220
  • marriage, the same--the 9th
  • 00:49:28.220 --> 00:49:29.280
  • of Tammuz, the day when
  • 00:49:29.280 --> 00:49:31.010
  • the walls were removed.
  • 00:49:31.010 --> 00:49:32.150
  • But not only that,
  • 00:49:32.150 --> 00:49:33.210
  • not only that, there is a--
  • 00:49:33.210 --> 00:49:35.110
  • I'll say something else.
  • 00:49:35.110 --> 00:49:36.100
  • One of the last signs in Israel
  • 00:49:36.100 --> 00:49:37.210
  • that appeared before judgment
  • 00:49:37.210 --> 00:49:39.060
  • is that the signs of false gods.
  • 00:49:39.060 --> 00:49:42.000
  • The images appear
  • 00:49:42.000 --> 00:49:42.290
  • throughout the land.
  • 00:49:42.290 --> 00:49:44.030
  • Now, that was a sign.
  • 00:49:44.030 --> 00:49:45.040
  • or idol is the word shiqutz.
  • 00:49:47.100 --> 00:49:49.010
  • Shiqutz also means abomination.
  • 00:49:49.010 --> 00:49:51.040
  • Now, I wanna show you something.
  • 00:49:51.040 --> 00:49:52.170
  • I believe we have an image
  • 00:49:52.170 --> 00:49:53.180
  • in New York City this summer,
  • 00:49:55.240 --> 00:49:57.010
  • that same summer.
  • 00:49:57.010 --> 00:49:58.110
  • That image, if you can make
  • 00:49:58.110 --> 00:49:59.270
  • it out, that image is a image
  • 00:49:59.270 --> 00:50:01.220
  • of a face of a false god
  • 00:50:01.220 --> 00:50:04.080
  • projected on
  • 00:50:04.080 --> 00:50:05.150
  • the Empire State Building.
  • 00:50:05.150 --> 00:50:06.170
  • - Bobby: What is that?
  • 00:50:06.170 --> 00:50:07.170
  • - Jonathan: That's
  • 00:50:07.170 --> 00:50:08.150
  • an abomination.
  • 00:50:08.150 --> 00:50:09.100
  • That's the god Kali.
  • 00:50:09.100 --> 00:50:10.070
  • And it's the god of darkness.
  • 00:50:10.070 --> 00:50:11.090
  • Actually it was projected.
  • 00:50:11.090 --> 00:50:12.090
  • It's possibly the largest image
  • 00:50:12.090 --> 00:50:13.090
  • of a false god in the history
  • 00:50:13.090 --> 00:50:14.190
  • of the world.
  • 00:50:14.190 --> 00:50:15.290
  • - Bobby: Wow,
  • 00:50:15.290 --> 00:50:16.270
  • that's disturbing.
  • 00:50:16.270 --> 00:50:17.280
  • - Jonathan: Yeah,
  • 00:50:17.280 --> 00:50:18.250
  • and over New York City,
  • 00:50:18.250 --> 00:50:19.210
  • it's the god of darkness.
  • 00:50:19.210 --> 00:50:20.190
  • It's the god of destruction
  • 00:50:20.190 --> 00:50:21.180
  • and death over New York City.
  • 00:50:21.180 --> 00:50:22.190
  • - Bobby: What's the context
  • 00:50:22.190 --> 00:50:23.140
  • for that?
  • 00:50:23.140 --> 00:50:24.140
  • Why did they put Kali--
  • 00:50:24.140 --> 00:50:25.140
  • like Kali Ma
  • 00:50:25.140 --> 00:50:26.160
  • from "Indiana Jones"?
  • 00:50:26.160 --> 00:50:27.190
  • - Jonathan: What they said was,
  • 00:50:27.190 --> 00:50:28.220
  • what they--maybe.
  • 00:50:28.220 --> 00:50:29.200
  • What they said was,
  • 00:50:29.200 --> 00:50:30.200
  • they said that, you know,
  • 00:50:30.200 --> 00:50:31.160
  • we have to protect
  • 00:50:31.160 --> 00:50:32.130
  • the environment.
  • 00:50:32.130 --> 00:50:33.120
  • We're appointing Kali as
  • 00:50:33.120 --> 00:50:34.110
  • the protector of mother earth.
  • 00:50:34.110 --> 00:50:35.270
  • - Bobby: But who?
  • 00:50:35.270 --> 00:50:36.240
  • Was it the Empire State
  • 00:50:36.240 --> 00:50:37.210
  • Building?
  • 00:50:37.210 --> 00:50:38.170
  • - Jonathan: It was the--
  • 00:50:38.170 --> 00:50:39.130
  • That's the Empire State
  • 00:50:39.130 --> 00:50:40.080
  • Building.
  • 00:50:40.080 --> 00:50:41.050
  • - Bobby: So who made
  • 00:50:41.050 --> 00:50:41.290
  • a decision to--who knows.
  • 00:50:41.290 --> 00:50:43.010
  • - Jonathan: Whoever's--yeah,
  • 00:50:43.010 --> 00:50:44.000
  • I mean, you know, whoever's
  • 00:50:44.000 --> 00:50:45.000
  • in charge of projecting
  • 00:50:45.000 --> 00:50:45.260
  • those lights, but that's like
  • 00:50:45.260 --> 00:50:46.260
  • the harbingers.
  • 00:50:46.260 --> 00:50:47.270
  • Nobody is planning it.
  • 00:50:47.270 --> 00:50:48.240
  • I mean, nobody realizes
  • 00:50:48.240 --> 00:50:49.250
  • the significance but they
  • 00:50:49.250 --> 00:50:50.230
  • appear in the lands,
  • 00:50:50.230 --> 00:50:52.020
  • a warning from God.
  • 00:50:52.020 --> 00:50:52.290
  • - Bobby: Yeah, and I do feel
  • 00:50:52.290 --> 00:50:53.290
  • like that very often darkness
  • 00:50:53.290 --> 00:50:54.260
  • likes to sort of put a stake
  • 00:50:54.260 --> 00:50:55.260
  • in the ground and sort of wink
  • 00:50:55.260 --> 00:50:57.010
  • at believers even though
  • 00:50:57.010 --> 00:50:59.030
  • the world doesn't see kind
  • 00:50:59.030 --> 00:51:00.140
  • of what's happening.
  • 00:51:00.140 --> 00:51:01.110
  • - Jonathan: That's right.
  • 00:51:01.110 --> 00:51:02.090
  • And we have to be the light.
  • 00:51:02.090 --> 00:51:03.070
  • - Bobby: Is there hope?
  • 00:51:03.070 --> 00:51:04.050
  • I mean, you know, encourage us.
  • 00:51:04.050 --> 00:51:05.020
  • You know, I mean,
  • 00:51:05.020 --> 00:51:05.290
  • this is scary stuff, you know.
  • 00:51:05.290 --> 00:51:06.290
  • - Jonathan: Absolutely.
  • 00:51:06.290 --> 00:51:07.270
  • There's always hope wherever
  • 00:51:07.270 --> 00:51:08.270
  • there's God there's hope.
  • 00:51:08.270 --> 00:51:10.020
  • - Bobby: Absolutely, yeah.
  • 00:51:10.020 --> 00:51:10.280
  • - Jonathan: God is hope.
  • 00:51:10.280 --> 00:51:11.290
  • But the thing is that,
  • 00:51:11.290 --> 00:51:12.260
  • what it's saying is our hope
  • 00:51:12.260 --> 00:51:13.230
  • is not in ourselves.
  • 00:51:13.230 --> 00:51:14.200
  • Our hope is not in America.
  • 00:51:14.200 --> 00:51:15.150
  • Our hope is in the God
  • 00:51:15.150 --> 00:51:16.270
  • by which America was founded.
  • 00:51:16.270 --> 00:51:18.080
  • We need to return.
  • 00:51:18.080 --> 00:51:19.080
  • there needs to be revival.
  • 00:51:21.140 --> 00:51:22.060
  • You know, we're in
  • 00:51:22.060 --> 00:51:23.060
  • an election period, and I have
  • 00:51:23.060 --> 00:51:24.050
  • to say something,
  • 00:51:24.050 --> 00:51:25.030
  • and I'm not gonna get political.
  • 00:51:25.030 --> 00:51:26.030
  • I'm gonna just say this.
  • 00:51:26.030 --> 00:51:26.270
  • Is that this, you know, the
  • 00:51:26.270 --> 00:51:27.250
  • template of "The Harbinger,"
  • 00:51:27.250 --> 00:51:28.230
  • I actually wrote something,
  • 00:51:28.230 --> 00:51:29.240
  • this is a few years ago,
  • 00:51:29.240 --> 00:51:30.210
  • on "The Harbinger"
  • 00:51:30.210 --> 00:51:31.210
  • which mentions somebody
  • 00:51:31.210 --> 00:51:32.190
  • who's now in the political scene
  • 00:51:32.190 --> 00:51:33.160
  • who wasn't in the political
  • 00:51:33.160 --> 00:51:34.130
  • He's in there.
  • 00:51:36.190 --> 00:51:37.100
  • And the thing is that--
  • 00:51:37.100 --> 00:51:38.160
  • - Bobby: Just say who it is.
  • 00:51:38.160 --> 00:51:39.070
  • - Jonathan: No, no.
  • 00:51:39.070 --> 00:51:40.070
  • - Bobby: Okay, all right.
  • 00:51:40.070 --> 00:51:41.060
  • I'm so curious, I wanna know.
  • 00:51:41.060 --> 00:51:42.030
  • - Jonathan: Read the book.
  • 00:51:42.030 --> 00:51:43.010
  • You'll find it but--
  • 00:51:43.010 --> 00:51:43.250
  • in the footnotes,
  • 00:51:43.250 --> 00:51:44.250
  • but he's actually quoted there.
  • 00:51:44.250 --> 00:51:46.020
  • No, no, I don't wanna get you
  • 00:51:46.020 --> 00:51:47.150
  • in trouble.
  • 00:51:47.150 --> 00:51:48.150
  • But the thing is that--
  • 00:51:48.150 --> 00:51:49.110
  • but the other thing
  • 00:51:49.110 --> 00:51:50.100
  • is the template is the people
  • 00:51:50.100 --> 00:51:51.070
  • of Israel, instead of coming
  • 00:51:51.070 --> 00:51:52.050
  • back to God, what they did
  • 00:51:52.050 --> 00:51:53.160
  • is say, "We're gonna come
  • 00:51:53.160 --> 00:51:54.180
  • back stronger.
  • 00:51:54.180 --> 00:51:55.140
  • We're gonna be greater.
  • 00:51:55.140 --> 00:51:56.130
  • We're gonna be great again
  • 00:51:56.130 --> 00:51:57.150
  • without repenting,
  • 00:51:57.150 --> 00:51:58.190
  • without returning to God."
  • 00:51:58.190 --> 00:51:59.290
  • And that led to judgment.
  • 00:51:59.290 --> 00:52:01.050
  • So one of the things
  • 00:52:01.050 --> 00:52:02.050
  • I'm concerned about is
  • 00:52:02.050 --> 00:52:03.040
  • we need to be seeking not,
  • 00:52:03.040 --> 00:52:04.120
  • "Hey, we're gonna be great,"
  • 00:52:04.120 --> 00:52:05.260
  • we're gonna be seeking revival.
  • 00:52:05.260 --> 00:52:07.000
  • Only through revival
  • 00:52:07.000 --> 00:52:08.050
  • can we be great.
  • 00:52:08.050 --> 00:52:09.120
  • Only through revival,
  • 00:52:09.120 --> 00:52:10.150
  • we need a revival now.
  • 00:52:10.150 --> 00:52:12.030
  • And we need to be praying.
  • 00:52:12.030 --> 00:52:12.270
  • That's what you said before.
  • 00:52:12.270 --> 00:52:14.010
  • If my people who are called
  • 00:52:14.010 --> 00:52:15.010
  • by my name.
  • 00:52:15.010 --> 00:52:16.000
  • This is the time because we
  • 00:52:16.000 --> 00:52:17.000
  • cannot afford the route
  • 00:52:17.000 --> 00:52:18.080
  • that we are going down now.
  • 00:52:18.080 --> 00:52:19.170
  • We must pray.
  • 00:52:19.170 --> 00:52:20.160
  • You know, God can--sometimes
  • 00:52:20.160 --> 00:52:21.160
  • people say, "Is there gonna be
  • 00:52:21.160 --> 00:52:22.170
  • judgment or revival?"
  • 00:52:22.170 --> 00:52:23.150
  • I say, you know,
  • 00:52:23.150 --> 00:52:24.130
  • there can be both.
  • 00:52:24.130 --> 00:52:25.110
  • There can be shaking
  • 00:52:25.110 --> 00:52:26.100
  • and revival.
  • 00:52:26.100 --> 00:52:27.090
  • I mean, I'd rather not have
  • 00:52:27.090 --> 00:52:28.030
  • the shaking but there could--
  • 00:52:28.030 --> 00:52:29.010
  • but the point is sometimes
  • 00:52:29.010 --> 00:52:30.010
  • it comes through that.
  • 00:52:30.010 --> 00:52:30.280
  • But the point is that we need
  • 00:52:30.280 --> 00:52:31.280
  • to be praying earnestly
  • 00:52:31.280 --> 00:52:32.270
  • for the future of America
  • 00:52:32.270 --> 00:52:33.240
  • right now because
  • 00:52:33.240 --> 00:52:34.280
  • it's a critical time when we
  • 00:52:34.280 --> 00:52:36.080
  • need to be praying for revival,
  • 00:52:36.080 --> 00:52:37.070
  • and revival begins with us.
  • 00:52:37.070 --> 00:52:38.290
  • We can't--you know, it's
  • 00:52:38.290 --> 00:52:40.000
  • not just to pray for revival.
  • 00:52:40.000 --> 00:52:41.010
  • It's to live in revival.
  • 00:52:41.010 --> 00:52:42.050
  • - Bobby: Yeah, that's good.
  • 00:52:42.050 --> 00:52:43.070
  • There's some clips here that you
  • 00:52:43.070 --> 00:52:44.070
  • wanted to show us about--
  • 00:52:44.070 --> 00:52:46.030
  • - Jonathan: Well, I believe
  • 00:52:46.030 --> 00:52:46.270
  • it's the--I believe you guys
  • 00:52:46.270 --> 00:52:47.270
  • have a clip of--I'm gonna be--
  • 00:52:47.270 --> 00:52:49.190
  • the Lord's opening doors
  • 00:52:49.190 --> 00:52:50.220
  • to speak, and I believe
  • 00:52:50.220 --> 00:52:51.250
  • that's why it's--
  • 00:52:51.250 --> 00:52:52.280
  • I wanna encourage people
  • 00:52:52.280 --> 00:52:53.260
  • do not be silent.
  • 00:52:53.260 --> 00:52:55.030
  • Do not be timid.
  • 00:52:55.030 --> 00:52:56.170
  • Do not--but, you know,
  • 00:52:56.170 --> 00:52:57.200
  • these are the days of Elijah.
  • 00:52:57.200 --> 00:52:58.220
  • Be the Elijah of the day,
  • 00:52:58.220 --> 00:53:00.090
  • you know.
  • 00:53:00.090 --> 00:53:01.110
  • You know, these are the end
  • 00:53:01.110 --> 00:53:02.160
  • times, the lights have
  • 00:53:02.160 --> 00:53:03.130
  • to get brighter.
  • 00:53:03.130 --> 00:53:04.120
  • So the Lord's opened doors.
  • 00:53:04.120 --> 00:53:05.130
  • I don't know--I don't claim
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  • to know what I'm doing there.
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  • All I know is, Lord,
  • 00:53:07.130 --> 00:53:08.130
  • you opened the door and we--
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  • I have to speak.
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  • So I believe they have a clip,
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  • I'm gonna--and please pray for
  • 00:53:11.050 --> 00:53:12.040
  • me because soon I'm gonna be
  • 00:53:12.040 --> 00:53:13.060
  • back there in Washington,
  • 00:53:13.060 --> 00:53:14.120
  • speaking to leaders.
  • 00:53:14.120 --> 00:53:15.100
  • But I spoke before Members
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  • of Congress at a gathering,
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  • and they did a clip and I think
  • 00:53:18.020 --> 00:53:19.130
  • they put images on it.
  • 00:53:19.130 --> 00:53:20.210
  • But this is about the smiles
  • 00:53:20.210 --> 00:53:22.140
  • of heaven so I believe you have
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  • a short clip of that.
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  • - Bobby: Okay, great.
  • 00:53:24.180 --> 00:53:25.180
  • Let's take a look.
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  • - Jonathan: Tonight, we bear
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  • witness from Capitol Hill
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  • that the warning of our first
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  • President is true and that our
  • 00:53:29.280 --> 00:53:31.130
  • hope is not in the White House
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  • or the Supreme Court
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  • or the Capitol or Wall Street.
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  • Our hope is in the living God,
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  • the God of Abraham, Isaac,
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  • and Jacob.
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  • Our hope is in
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  • Yeshua HaMashiach,
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  • Jesus the Messiah,
  • 00:53:42.080 --> 00:53:43.130
  • the same yesterday, today,
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  • and forever.
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  • Through him alone, the nation
  • 00:53:45.280 --> 00:53:47.000
  • is dedicated and him alone
  • 00:53:47.000 --> 00:53:48.060
  • is the salvation.
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  • So let the Word go forth this
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  • night to this nation.
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  • If my people who are called by
  • 00:53:52.280 --> 00:53:54.130
  • my name will humble themselves
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  • and pray and seek my face
  • 00:53:55.290 --> 00:53:57.140
  • and turn from their evil ways,
  • 00:53:57.140 --> 00:53:59.000
  • I will hear from heaven,
  • 00:53:59.000 --> 00:54:00.100
  • I will forgive their sin,
  • 00:54:00.100 --> 00:54:01.210
  • and I will heal their land.
  • 00:54:01.210 --> 00:54:03.230
  • Let the will of God be done,
  • 00:54:03.230 --> 00:54:05.000
  • let the name of God
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  • be lifted up, and let this city
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  • on the hill again shine
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  • with the light of the fire
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  • of the glory of the living God
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  • in the name of Yeshua,
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  • Jesus, the light of the world,
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  • the glory of Israel,
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  • and the hope of these
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  • United States.
  • 00:54:18.010 --> 00:54:19.010
  • So help us God, amen.
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  • [applauding]
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  • - Bobby: So, you're
  • 00:54:26.070 --> 00:54:27.050
  • really passionate.
  • 00:54:27.050 --> 00:54:28.110
  • You remind me a lot
  • 00:54:28.110 --> 00:54:29.250
  • of some of these prophets who
  • 00:54:29.250 --> 00:54:31.200
  • used to--who God would send
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  • to speak to kings
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  • and leaders of Israel to sort of
  • 00:54:33.290 --> 00:54:35.230
  • be like this voice that wasn't
  • 00:54:35.230 --> 00:54:38.020
  • afraid to courageously say--
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  • - Jonathan: Well, I believe
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  • we all have to be that voice.
  • 00:54:41.190 --> 00:54:42.250
  • You know, it's almost like we're
  • 00:54:42.250 --> 00:54:44.010
  • turning from a time when
  • 00:54:44.010 --> 00:54:45.050
  • Christianity was a status quo
  • 00:54:45.050 --> 00:54:46.270
  • cultural faith where it has
  • 00:54:46.270 --> 00:54:48.210
  • to become a prophetic faith.
  • 00:54:48.210 --> 00:54:50.020
  • We have to be that people
  • 00:54:50.020 --> 00:54:51.210
  • and God will anoint that.
  • 00:54:51.210 --> 00:54:52.260
  • You know, it's like,
  • 00:54:52.260 --> 00:54:53.280
  • I mean you know this and--
  • 00:54:53.280 --> 00:54:54.290
  • but, you know, it's like
  • 00:54:54.290 --> 00:54:55.270
  • a candle in the daytime,
  • 00:54:55.270 --> 00:54:56.230
  • you can barely see it.
  • 00:54:56.230 --> 00:54:57.190
  • A candle at night you can see it
  • 00:54:57.190 --> 00:54:58.170
  • for miles.
  • 00:54:58.170 --> 00:54:59.210
  • It's time to be a candle
  • 00:54:59.210 --> 00:55:00.250
  • in the night.
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  • You know, don't be afraid
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  • to shine because this is why
  • 00:55:02.220 --> 00:55:03.230
  • we're born.
  • 00:55:03.230 --> 00:55:04.200
  • We were born for such a time
  • 00:55:04.200 --> 00:55:05.200
  • as this, truly.
  • 00:55:05.200 --> 00:55:06.200
  • Don't be afraid
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  • of the end times.
  • 00:55:07.190 --> 00:55:08.150
  • If God didn't want you here,
  • 00:55:08.150 --> 00:55:09.130
  • he would have put you
  • 00:55:09.130 --> 00:55:10.100
  • in the Middle Ages.
  • 00:55:10.100 --> 00:55:11.080
  • He's put you here
  • 00:55:11.080 --> 00:55:12.020
  • because he's gonna give you
  • 00:55:12.020 --> 00:55:13.030
  • the power to be that,
  • 00:55:13.030 --> 00:55:13.250
  • but be that person.
  • 00:55:13.250 --> 00:55:14.220
  • - Bobby: Yeah, and you know
  • 00:55:14.220 --> 00:55:15.180
  • what's so amazing about
  • 00:55:15.180 --> 00:55:16.190
  • technology too and I--
  • 00:55:16.190 --> 00:55:18.030
  • even we're doing this now,
  • 00:55:18.030 --> 00:55:19.120
  • but the ways in which one person
  • 00:55:19.120 --> 00:55:21.230
  • can talk to the whole world
  • 00:55:21.230 --> 00:55:23.060
  • so easily.
  • 00:55:23.060 --> 00:55:24.060
  • That's almost the problem
  • 00:55:24.060 --> 00:55:25.050
  • and the solution, isn't it?
  • 00:55:25.050 --> 00:55:26.070
  • I mean, we're--
  • 00:55:26.070 --> 00:55:26.290
  • - Jonathan: That's right,
  • 00:55:26.290 --> 00:55:27.280
  • so we should be using
  • 00:55:27.280 --> 00:55:28.260
  • that to do that.
  • 00:55:28.260 --> 00:55:29.210
  • You know, I spoke there.
  • 00:55:29.210 --> 00:55:30.180
  • I don't know how many people
  • 00:55:30.180 --> 00:55:31.140
  • were there but these things
  • 00:55:31.140 --> 00:55:32.110
  • go online.
  • 00:55:32.110 --> 00:55:33.050
  • It was about 15 million people
  • 00:55:33.050 --> 00:55:34.030
  • have seen--
  • 00:55:34.030 --> 00:55:34.290
  • - Bobby: Where was that,
  • 00:55:34.290 --> 00:55:35.270
  • that you were speaking?
  • 00:55:35.270 --> 00:55:36.210
  • - Jonathan: That was
  • 00:55:36.210 --> 00:55:37.170
  • at Capitol Hill, that was--
  • 00:55:37.170 --> 00:55:38.150
  • yeah, Capitol Hill, there.
  • 00:55:38.150 --> 00:55:39.140
  • There were some presidential
  • 00:55:39.140 --> 00:55:40.130
  • candidates there as well.
  • 00:55:40.130 --> 00:55:41.110
  • But it's gone to the world
  • 00:55:41.110 --> 00:55:42.080
  • because God will do it,
  • 00:55:42.080 --> 00:55:43.020
  • but we need to open our mouths,
  • 00:55:43.020 --> 00:55:43.260
  • we need to share the gospel.
  • 00:55:43.260 --> 00:55:44.230
  • We need to lift up the Lord.
  • 00:55:44.230 --> 00:55:45.230
  • He's the only answer.
  • 00:55:45.230 --> 00:55:46.200
  • He's the only hope for America.
  • 00:55:46.200 --> 00:55:48.080
  • - Bobby: Amen, and, of course,
  • 00:55:48.080 --> 00:55:49.080
  • you and I, we're gonna be
  • 00:55:49.080 --> 00:55:50.060
  • in Washington, D.C.
  • 00:55:50.060 --> 00:55:51.070
  • - Jonathan: That's right.
  • 00:55:51.070 --> 00:55:52.030
  • - Bobby: Yeah,
  • 00:55:52.030 --> 00:55:53.000
  • we can applaud for that.
  • 00:55:53.000 --> 00:55:54.140
  • You and I are gonna
  • 00:55:54.140 --> 00:55:55.130
  • be there together, April 9.
  • 00:55:55.130 --> 00:55:57.240
  • There's an organization
  • 00:55:57.240 --> 00:55:59.070
  • called United Cry.
  • 00:55:59.070 --> 00:56:00.120
  • We're gonna be there
  • 00:56:00.120 --> 00:56:01.160
  • with Harry Jackson's
  • 00:56:01.160 --> 00:56:02.250
  • gonna be there.
  • 00:56:02.250 --> 00:56:03.290
  • - Jonathan: Franklin Graham's
  • 00:56:03.290 --> 00:56:04.280
  • gonna be there.
  • 00:56:04.280 --> 00:56:05.260
  • - Bobby: Yeah,
  • 00:56:05.260 --> 00:56:06.210
  • the Martin Luther King family,
  • 00:56:06.210 --> 00:56:07.180
  • I believe, is gonna be there.
  • 00:56:07.180 --> 00:56:08.120
  • - Jonathan: At
  • 00:56:08.120 --> 00:56:09.060
  • the Lincoln Memorial, yeah.
  • 00:56:09.060 --> 00:56:10.010
  • Yeah, it's a call for pastors
  • 00:56:10.010 --> 00:56:10.260
  • and churches to stand with God
  • 00:56:10.260 --> 00:56:11.260
  • and pray.
  • 00:56:11.260 --> 00:56:12.210
  • We need it, yeah.
  • 00:56:12.210 --> 00:56:13.170
  • It's absolutely--
  • 00:56:13.170 --> 00:56:14.120
  • It's of my people.
  • 00:56:14.120 --> 00:56:15.020
  • - Bobby: Yeah.
  • 00:56:15.020 --> 00:56:15.290
  • - Jonathan: I was once,
  • 00:56:15.290 --> 00:56:16.250
  • when I was a new believer,
  • 00:56:16.250 --> 00:56:17.220
  • I was in that mall
  • 00:56:17.220 --> 00:56:18.280
  • and there was a thing called
  • 00:56:18.280 --> 00:56:19.240
  • Washington for Jesus.
  • 00:56:19.240 --> 00:56:20.240
  • And I remember praying,
  • 00:56:20.240 --> 00:56:21.200
  • you know, and God
  • 00:56:21.200 --> 00:56:22.200
  • actually changed history.
  • 00:56:22.200 --> 00:56:23.230
  • That's when the--Reagan came in.
  • 00:56:23.230 --> 00:56:25.120
  • It changed history.
  • 00:56:25.120 --> 00:56:26.120
  • We have to pray.
  • 00:56:26.120 --> 00:56:27.170
  • There is power--prayer is more
  • 00:56:27.170 --> 00:56:28.280
  • powerful than all the forces
  • 00:56:28.280 --> 00:56:30.160
  • of the world.
  • 00:56:30.160 --> 00:56:31.220
  • We have to remember that.
  • 00:56:31.220 --> 00:56:33.080
  • - Bobby: Yeah, and if you're
  • 00:56:33.080 --> 00:56:34.060
  • a pastor and you wanna pray
  • 00:56:34.060 --> 00:56:35.050
  • Go to United--
  • 00:56:37.120 --> 00:56:38.250
  • visit unitedcry.com
  • 00:56:38.250 --> 00:56:40.290
  • and participate in any way
  • 00:56:40.290 --> 00:56:41.260
  • you can.
  • 00:56:41.260 --> 00:56:42.250
  • And even if you can't be there,
  • 00:56:42.250 --> 00:56:44.060
  • pray from home, April 9.
  • 00:56:44.060 --> 00:56:46.040
  • We're really gonna be praying.
  • 00:56:46.040 --> 00:56:47.060
  • We're gonna be repenting
  • 00:56:47.060 --> 00:56:48.100
  • for the sins of America.
  • 00:56:48.100 --> 00:56:49.100
  • We're gonna be repenting
  • 00:56:49.100 --> 00:56:50.110
  • for the sins of racism.
  • 00:56:50.110 --> 00:56:51.080
  • We're gonna be repenting
  • 00:56:51.080 --> 00:56:52.070
  • for all of the different chains
  • 00:56:52.070 --> 00:56:53.070
  • that have been binding up
  • 00:56:53.070 --> 00:56:54.070
  • our country.
  • 00:56:54.070 --> 00:56:55.100
  • We're gonna see great, great
  • 00:56:55.100 --> 00:56:56.090
  • things happen and Jonathan Cahn,
  • 00:56:56.090 --> 00:56:57.230
  • you're gonna be there.
  • 00:56:57.230 --> 00:56:58.230
  • I'll be there.
  • 00:56:58.230 --> 00:56:59.240
  • - Jonathan: Well, I'm finishing
  • 00:57:02.250 --> 00:57:05.250
  • another book, you know.
  • 00:57:05.250 --> 00:57:06.250
  • And I'll be speaking in
  • 00:57:06.250 --> 00:57:08.070
  • Washington several times.
  • 00:57:08.070 --> 00:57:09.130
  • The National Day of Prayer
  • 00:57:09.130 --> 00:57:10.150
  • and many other things like that.
  • 00:57:10.150 --> 00:57:11.180
  • And just pressing forward.
  • 00:57:11.180 --> 00:57:13.200
  • There's no end and there's
  • 00:57:13.200 --> 00:57:14.240
  • no rest but it's okay.
  • 00:57:14.240 --> 00:57:16.210
  • God is our rest.
  • 00:57:16.210 --> 00:57:17.230
  • - Bobby: Well, Jonathan, thanks
  • 00:57:17.230 --> 00:57:18.220
  • for encouraging us tonight.
  • 00:57:18.220 --> 00:57:19.180
  • We're so glad to know
  • 00:57:19.180 --> 00:57:20.190
  • that in the chaos of this world,
  • 00:57:20.190 --> 00:57:21.140
  • God is in control and we need
  • 00:57:21.140 --> 00:57:23.020
  • to pray and we need to be like
  • 00:57:23.020 --> 00:57:24.240
  • candles in the darkness.
  • 00:57:24.240 --> 00:57:26.050
  • A great word.
  • 00:57:26.050 --> 00:57:27.080
  • Thank you, Jonathan.
  • 00:57:27.080 --> 00:57:28.030
  • God bless you.
  • 00:57:28.030 --> 00:57:29.000
  • - Jonathan: Thank you, Bobby.
  • 00:57:29.000 --> 00:57:29.280
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  • 00:57:29.280 --> 00:57:30.240
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  • 00:57:30.240 --> 00:57:31.230
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  • about a network like TBN
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  • is there's no commercials,
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  • right?
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  • I mean, TBN is a network
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  • that depends on generous people
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  • that wanna see
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  • Christian broadcasts going
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  • around the world, that don't
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  • have corporate companies,
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  • secular companies,
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  • doling out money to decide
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  • what message goes out.
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  • There's something really
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  • important about Christian
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  • networks and TBN,
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  • the largest, most influential
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  • Christian network in the world,
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  • the third largest
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  • overall network in the world,
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  • the largest religious network
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  • in the world.
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  • We are reaching millions
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  • of people around the world.
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  • I just wanna encourage you,
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  • whoever you are, if you
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  • wanna support this ministry,
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  • please do so.
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  • Pray about it,
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  • think about supporting
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  • the great work
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  • of Matt and Laurie Crouch
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  • and Jan Crouch as they continue
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  • to see people come to faith
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  • around the world.
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  • We know God'll bless you
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  • and that you'll bless millions
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  • of people who need to hear
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  • the Word of God.
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  • So thank you for that.
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  • [audience applauding]
  • 01:00:04.260 --> 01:00:07.260
  • You know, there are people--
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  • Hi, again, we're so glad
  • 01:00:08.290 --> 01:00:09.280
  • on "Praise the Lord."
  • 01:00:12.040 --> 01:00:12.210
  • I'm Bobby Schuller.
  • 01:00:12.210 --> 01:00:13.130
  • I'm here on TBN every Saturday
  • 01:00:13.130 --> 01:00:15.040
  • night and Sunday morning.
  • 01:00:15.040 --> 01:00:16.120
  • It is such a privilege to be
  • 01:00:16.120 --> 01:00:17.170
  • a part of this network.
  • 01:00:17.170 --> 01:00:18.270
  • And tonight, I have
  • 01:00:18.270 --> 01:00:19.280
  • with another minister
  • 01:00:22.040 --> 01:00:22.210
  • who is absolutely passionate
  • 01:00:22.210 --> 01:00:24.050
  • about seeing people
  • 01:00:24.050 --> 01:00:25.150
  • come to faith.
  • 01:00:25.150 --> 01:00:26.150
  • Millions of people have come
  • 01:00:26.150 --> 01:00:27.190
  • to know Jesus Christ because
  • 01:00:27.190 --> 01:00:28.290
  • of his ministry.
  • 01:00:28.290 --> 01:00:30.280
  • And, Leif Hetland, we're so glad
  • 01:00:30.280 --> 01:00:32.290
  • to have you here tonight.
  • 01:00:32.290 --> 01:00:34.160
  • God bless you.
  • 01:00:34.160 --> 01:00:35.140
  • Thanks for being here.
  • 01:00:36.240 --> 01:00:39.240
  • So you're coming
  • 01:00:39.240 --> 01:00:40.240
  • all the way from Norway.
  • 01:00:40.240 --> 01:00:42.070
  • How was your trip?
  • 01:00:42.070 --> 01:00:43.140
  • - Leif Hetland: Well,
  • 01:00:43.140 --> 01:00:44.170
  • originally, I'm from Norway.
  • 01:00:44.170 --> 01:00:45.200
  • I actually live in Atlanta.
  • 01:00:45.200 --> 01:00:47.120
  • - Bobby: Okay.
  • 01:00:47.120 --> 01:00:48.140
  • - Leif: I got upgraded.
  • 01:00:48.140 --> 01:00:49.130
  • - Bobby: Okay, great.
  • 01:00:49.130 --> 01:00:50.180
  • And tell us a little bit
  • 01:00:50.180 --> 01:00:52.010
  • about your ministry
  • 01:00:52.010 --> 01:00:53.020
  • and what you're doing.
  • 01:00:53.020 --> 01:00:54.070
  • - Leif: Yeah, I came
  • 01:00:54.070 --> 01:00:55.240
  • from Norway, as I was saying.
  • 01:00:55.240 --> 01:00:56.210
  • a small little town of Norway.
  • 01:00:58.270 --> 01:01:01.120
  • And--but my parents, good godly
  • 01:01:01.120 --> 01:01:03.190
  • parents and I praise God for
  • 01:01:03.190 --> 01:01:06.010
  • parents that know how to pray.
  • 01:01:06.010 --> 01:01:08.040
  • And even today, just to see our
  • 01:01:08.040 --> 01:01:09.130
  • because our parents,
  • 01:01:11.190 --> 01:01:12.250
  • they knew how to pray.
  • 01:01:12.250 --> 01:01:14.070
  • And I'm their--I'm an answer
  • 01:01:14.070 --> 01:01:15.180
  • to prayer.
  • 01:01:15.180 --> 01:01:16.230
  • When I was about 12 years old,
  • 01:01:16.230 --> 01:01:18.000
  • mainly because there was
  • 01:01:18.000 --> 01:01:19.050
  • a lot of religion, I ended up
  • 01:01:19.050 --> 01:01:20.250
  • as a prodigal son that--
  • 01:01:20.250 --> 01:01:23.200
  • yeah, it took about 5 years
  • 01:01:23.200 --> 01:01:24.250
  • in rebellion before I had
  • 01:01:24.250 --> 01:01:26.250
  • a glorious encounter with Jesus
  • 01:01:26.250 --> 01:01:28.290
  • and was both saved
  • 01:01:28.290 --> 01:01:30.180
  • and healed and delivered
  • 01:01:30.180 --> 01:01:32.010
  • and transformed.
  • 01:01:32.010 --> 01:01:33.190
  • So that started a good journey
  • 01:01:33.190 --> 01:01:35.080
  • in my life.
  • 01:01:35.080 --> 01:01:36.140
  • But the problem was I went
  • 01:01:36.140 --> 01:01:37.220
  • from rebellion to religion.
  • 01:01:37.220 --> 01:01:39.200
  • - Bobby: I see.
  • 01:01:39.200 --> 01:01:40.280
  • So tell me about that.
  • 01:01:40.280 --> 01:01:41.280
  • So what happened?
  • 01:01:41.280 --> 01:01:43.010
  • So you didn't really go to
  • 01:01:43.010 --> 01:01:44.040
  • a personal relationship
  • 01:01:44.040 --> 01:01:45.060
  • with Christ.
  • 01:01:45.060 --> 01:01:46.050
  • You got wrapped up in the--
  • 01:01:46.050 --> 01:01:47.100
  • - Leif: In what I was going
  • 01:01:47.100 --> 01:01:48.140
  • to do for him instead
  • 01:01:48.140 --> 01:01:49.170
  • of what I was doing from him.
  • 01:01:49.170 --> 01:01:51.150
  • - Bobby: Yeah, and what he
  • 01:01:51.150 --> 01:01:52.170
  • was gonna do for you perhaps.
  • 01:01:52.170 --> 01:01:53.220
  • - Leif: That's right so
  • 01:01:53.220 --> 01:01:54.220
  • I became--because I was such
  • 01:01:54.220 --> 01:01:55.250
  • an achiever and now after
  • 01:01:55.250 --> 01:01:56.250
  • everything that Jesus has done
  • 01:01:56.250 --> 01:01:58.010
  • for me, I thought, "Okay,
  • 01:01:58.010 --> 01:01:59.140
  • now I need to serve him.
  • 01:01:59.140 --> 01:02:01.010
  • And I need to do these
  • 01:02:01.010 --> 01:02:02.080
  • different things."
  • 01:02:02.080 --> 01:02:03.100
  • So became more duty
  • 01:02:03.100 --> 01:02:04.120
  • instead of delight.
  • 01:02:04.120 --> 01:02:05.230
  • And I didn't realize that some
  • 01:02:05.230 --> 01:02:07.160
  • of the black hole that was in my
  • 01:02:07.160 --> 01:02:09.070
  • soul continued to drive me.
  • 01:02:09.070 --> 01:02:11.040
  • I loved Jesus, loved people.
  • 01:02:11.040 --> 01:02:13.070
  • So I left my country at the age
  • 01:02:13.070 --> 01:02:14.160
  • of 18, came to the States
  • 01:02:14.160 --> 01:02:17.000
  • and through this journey
  • 01:02:17.000 --> 01:02:18.130
  • which has been a pretty long
  • 01:02:18.130 --> 01:02:19.220
  • journey, I had some amazing
  • 01:02:19.220 --> 01:02:21.210
  • encounters with Jesus.
  • 01:02:21.210 --> 01:02:23.280
  • But was still something missing
  • 01:02:23.280 --> 01:02:25.090
  • in my life and that was
  • 01:02:25.090 --> 01:02:27.050
  • what eventually was about
  • 01:02:27.050 --> 01:02:28.110
  • to transform my life.
  • 01:02:28.110 --> 01:02:29.210
  • I call it a baptism
  • 01:02:29.210 --> 01:02:31.040
  • of love experience.
  • 01:02:31.040 --> 01:02:32.200
  • - Bobby: Oh, tell me
  • 01:02:32.200 --> 01:02:33.180
  • about that.
  • 01:02:33.180 --> 01:02:34.180
  • A baptism of love experience,
  • 01:02:34.180 --> 01:02:35.140
  • what was that?
  • 01:02:35.140 --> 01:02:36.110
  • - Leif: Well, what happened was
  • 01:02:36.110 --> 01:02:37.120
  • actually I came to a point where
  • 01:02:37.120 --> 01:02:39.100
  • the best that I could do for him
  • 01:02:39.100 --> 01:02:41.040
  • was not good enough.
  • 01:02:41.040 --> 01:02:42.130
  • By year 2000, I had seen about
  • 01:02:42.130 --> 01:02:44.170
  • a half a million people saved.
  • 01:02:44.170 --> 01:02:46.140
  • We'd been to 54 nations.
  • 01:02:46.140 --> 01:02:48.090
  • Saw some amazing things
  • 01:02:48.090 --> 01:02:49.290
  • that God was doing.
  • 01:02:49.290 --> 01:02:51.080
  • But I felt I never did enough.
  • 01:02:51.080 --> 01:02:53.190
  • And when I didn't do enough,
  • 01:02:53.190 --> 01:02:54.210
  • my wife didn't do enough
  • 01:02:54.210 --> 01:02:55.250
  • or my kids didn't do enough
  • 01:02:55.250 --> 01:02:56.290
  • and nobody else did enough.
  • 01:02:56.290 --> 01:02:59.020
  • And then there was an encounter
  • 01:02:59.020 --> 01:03:00.080
  • where Dennis Jernigan
  • 01:03:00.080 --> 01:03:01.230
  • and some of us know him.
  • 01:03:01.230 --> 01:03:03.010
  • He was playing the piano.
  • 01:03:03.010 --> 01:03:04.060
  • We were a small little group
  • 01:03:04.060 --> 01:03:05.230
  • together and he says, "Leif,
  • 01:03:05.230 --> 01:03:07.060
  • I have this song for you.
  • 01:03:07.060 --> 01:03:08.220
  • And it is a daddy's song."
  • 01:03:08.220 --> 01:03:10.200
  • And for the first time in my
  • 01:03:10.200 --> 01:03:12.000
  • life, I was laying there
  • 01:03:12.000 --> 01:03:13.230
  • on the floor and waves
  • 01:03:13.230 --> 01:03:15.090
  • of liquid love started to flow.
  • 01:03:15.090 --> 01:03:17.270
  • And it went into me when
  • 01:03:17.270 --> 01:03:19.060
  • I was the 5-year-old boy,
  • 01:03:19.060 --> 01:03:20.230
  • the 12-year-old boy,
  • 01:03:20.230 --> 01:03:21.290
  • it just--it was like picture
  • 01:03:21.290 --> 01:03:23.080
  • after picture in my life,
  • 01:03:23.080 --> 01:03:25.010
  • liquid love just went in there.
  • 01:03:25.010 --> 01:03:26.210
  • And then there was
  • 01:03:26.210 --> 01:03:27.230
  • an audible voice from heaven.
  • 01:03:27.230 --> 01:03:29.090
  • It's the first time I heard
  • 01:03:29.090 --> 01:03:30.160
  • an audible voice that says,
  • 01:03:30.160 --> 01:03:32.080
  • "Leif, you're mine.
  • 01:03:32.080 --> 01:03:34.150
  • And you're my beloved.
  • 01:03:34.150 --> 01:03:36.050
  • You're my beloved Son.
  • 01:03:36.050 --> 01:03:38.060
  • I love you.
  • 01:03:38.060 --> 01:03:39.270
  • And I am well pleased
  • 01:03:39.270 --> 01:03:42.100
  • with you."
  • 01:03:42.100 --> 01:03:43.180
  • - Bobby: Wow, that's such
  • 01:03:43.180 --> 01:03:44.180
  • a powerful world--word.
  • 01:03:44.180 --> 01:03:45.190
  • And you remind me so much
  • 01:03:45.190 --> 01:03:46.210
  • of Henri Nouwen.
  • 01:03:46.210 --> 01:03:47.200
  • I don't know if you ever had
  • 01:03:47.200 --> 01:03:48.210
  • the chance to read his work
  • 01:03:48.210 --> 01:03:49.220
  • or meet him.
  • 01:03:49.220 --> 01:03:50.200
  • - Leif: Yes, I have, yeah.
  • 01:03:50.200 --> 01:03:51.180
  • - Bobby: But that was his
  • 01:03:51.180 --> 01:03:52.170
  • message, you know.
  • 01:03:52.170 --> 01:03:53.170
  • He always was trying to remind
  • 01:03:53.170 --> 01:03:54.150
  • us that the same words that God
  • 01:03:54.150 --> 01:03:57.090
  • said over Jesus in his baptism,
  • 01:03:57.090 --> 01:03:59.080
  • those words you just said,
  • 01:03:59.080 --> 01:04:00.210
  • "You were my--this is
  • 01:04:00.210 --> 01:04:01.220
  • my beloved Son in whom
  • 01:04:01.220 --> 01:04:02.200
  • I'm well pleased," that he says
  • 01:04:02.200 --> 01:04:04.070
  • that about us, doesn't he?
  • 01:04:04.070 --> 01:04:05.230
  • - Leif: Yeah, I think
  • 01:04:05.230 --> 01:04:06.230
  • the amazing thing was
  • 01:04:06.230 --> 01:04:07.230
  • is that when you have an A-plus
  • 01:04:07.290 --> 01:04:10.290
  • before you take the exam.
  • 01:04:10.290 --> 01:04:13.010
  • There's an advantage to that.
  • 01:04:13.010 --> 01:04:14.140
  • - Bobby: Sure.
  • 01:04:14.140 --> 01:04:15.150
  • You know, I find it's amazing
  • 01:04:15.150 --> 01:04:16.240
  • that this is a part
  • 01:04:16.240 --> 01:04:18.020
  • of your testimony.
  • 01:04:18.020 --> 01:04:19.060
  • It sounds like what you're
  • 01:04:19.060 --> 01:04:20.060
  • saying is you moved from sort of
  • 01:04:20.060 --> 01:04:21.070
  • legalism to just sort of finding
  • 01:04:21.070 --> 01:04:22.240
  • this inner life of love.
  • 01:04:22.240 --> 01:04:24.060
  • - Leif: Yeah, because I was
  • 01:04:24.060 --> 01:04:25.080
  • a Baptist pastor,
  • 01:04:25.080 --> 01:04:26.080
  • to take us back again
  • 01:04:26.080 --> 01:04:27.090
  • and there's two stories that I'm
  • 01:04:27.090 --> 01:04:29.100
  • known for, because Randy Clark
  • 01:04:29.100 --> 01:04:31.000
  • that some of us know,
  • 01:04:31.000 --> 01:04:32.140
  • he always talks about
  • 01:04:32.140 --> 01:04:33.130
  • Heidi Baker and Leif Hetland.
  • 01:04:33.130 --> 01:04:34.290
  • There was kind of a two stories
  • 01:04:34.290 --> 01:04:36.230
  • and I was a Baptist pastor
  • 01:04:36.230 --> 01:04:38.040
  • where Randy came and he prayed
  • 01:04:38.040 --> 01:04:39.200
  • for a group of people.
  • 01:04:39.200 --> 01:04:40.230
  • But when he came to me, he says,
  • 01:04:40.230 --> 01:04:41.280
  • "You are a bulldozer."
  • 01:04:41.280 --> 01:04:43.290
  • And I was thinking, "No,
  • 01:04:43.290 --> 01:04:45.050
  • I'm a Baptist pastor."
  • 01:04:45.050 --> 01:04:46.130
  • I didn't know much
  • 01:04:46.130 --> 01:04:47.120
  • about prophecy.
  • 01:04:47.120 --> 01:04:48.100
  • And in the next moment he says,
  • 01:04:48.100 --> 01:04:49.090
  • "I see you going
  • 01:04:49.090 --> 01:04:50.130
  • into the darkest places
  • 01:04:50.130 --> 01:04:51.140
  • in the world where the gospel
  • 01:04:51.140 --> 01:04:53.050
  • has never been before,
  • 01:04:53.050 --> 01:04:54.180
  • into the Muslim world,
  • 01:04:54.180 --> 01:04:55.280
  • and you're gonna make a way.
  • 01:04:55.280 --> 01:04:57.020
  • And thousands of people are
  • 01:04:57.020 --> 01:04:57.290
  • going to following after you."
  • 01:04:57.290 --> 01:04:59.190
  • So I had an incredible encounter
  • 01:04:59.190 --> 01:05:01.240
  • with the Holy Spirit
  • 01:05:01.240 --> 01:05:03.010
  • and also with fire.
  • 01:05:03.010 --> 01:05:04.100
  • And it changed my life.
  • 01:05:04.100 --> 01:05:06.060
  • But that was the good news.
  • 01:05:06.060 --> 01:05:07.260
  • Later on, one of the challenges
  • 01:05:07.260 --> 01:05:09.170
  • with this was now,
  • 01:05:09.170 --> 01:05:10.280
  • with an orphan heart
  • 01:05:10.280 --> 01:05:12.130
  • and an orphan spirit.
  • 01:05:12.130 --> 01:05:13.190
  • I had good parents but I still
  • 01:05:13.190 --> 01:05:15.160
  • had that orphan tendency towards
  • 01:05:15.160 --> 01:05:17.090
  • that black hole in my soul.
  • 01:05:17.090 --> 01:05:18.290
  • So constantly, I was driven,
  • 01:05:18.290 --> 01:05:21.160
  • I had to do something because
  • 01:05:21.160 --> 01:05:22.290
  • I didn't know how just to be,
  • 01:05:22.290 --> 01:05:24.230
  • and that.
  • 01:05:24.230 --> 01:05:26.020
  • But when I had this baptism of
  • 01:05:26.020 --> 01:05:27.140
  • love, it didn't just change me.
  • 01:05:27.140 --> 01:05:29.170
  • It changed my marriage.
  • 01:05:29.170 --> 01:05:30.280
  • It changed my children.
  • 01:05:30.280 --> 01:05:32.050
  • And then when I started going
  • 01:05:32.050 --> 01:05:33.190
  • into the Middle East and even
  • 01:05:33.190 --> 01:05:35.170
  • meeting some of the top Muslim
  • 01:05:35.170 --> 01:05:36.270
  • leaders, I started to love them
  • 01:05:36.270 --> 01:05:38.250
  • without any agenda.
  • 01:05:38.250 --> 01:05:40.050
  • And I started to see
  • 01:05:40.050 --> 01:05:41.120
  • the environment change.
  • 01:05:41.120 --> 01:05:42.130
  • Because perfect love
  • 01:05:42.130 --> 01:05:43.140
  • now cast out fear.
  • 01:05:43.140 --> 01:05:44.230
  • - Bobby: Yeah, that's right
  • 01:05:44.230 --> 01:05:45.250
  • and, of course, if you--
  • 01:05:45.250 --> 01:05:46.260
  • and I wanna get
  • 01:05:46.260 --> 01:05:47.240
  • to the Muslim thing,
  • 01:05:47.240 --> 01:05:48.200
  • 'cause that's powerful
  • 01:05:48.200 --> 01:05:49.170
  • what you're doing,
  • 01:05:49.170 --> 01:05:50.120
  • but before we get there,
  • 01:05:50.120 --> 01:05:51.100
  • I just wanna rest for a moment
  • 01:05:51.100 --> 01:05:52.100
  • on what you're saying,
  • 01:05:52.100 --> 01:05:53.060
  • because I think so often,
  • 01:05:53.060 --> 01:05:54.230
  • you know, as Christians,
  • 01:05:54.230 --> 01:05:56.060
  • we hear God loves you,
  • 01:05:56.060 --> 01:05:57.010
  • God loves you, all the time.
  • 01:05:57.010 --> 01:05:58.110
  • But I think what you're saying
  • 01:05:58.110 --> 01:05:59.190
  • is profound.
  • 01:05:59.190 --> 01:06:01.060
  • In our church, every Sunday,
  • 01:06:01.060 --> 01:06:03.020
  • we try and align our people
  • 01:06:03.020 --> 01:06:05.070
  • with a creed that was inspired
  • 01:06:05.070 --> 01:06:07.210
  • by two guys, Dallas Willard
  • 01:06:07.210 --> 01:06:09.030
  • and Henri Nouwen.
  • 01:06:09.030 --> 01:06:10.050
  • And we always say--
  • 01:06:10.050 --> 01:06:11.210
  • we have everyone say,
  • 01:06:11.210 --> 01:06:12.250
  • "I'm not what I do.
  • 01:06:12.250 --> 01:06:14.030
  • I'm not what I have.
  • 01:06:14.030 --> 01:06:15.090
  • I'm not what people say
  • 01:06:15.090 --> 01:06:16.080
  • about me.
  • 01:06:16.080 --> 01:06:17.140
  • I'm the beloved of God.
  • 01:06:17.140 --> 01:06:18.190
  • It's who I am."
  • 01:06:18.190 --> 01:06:19.210
  • And the thing people always
  • 01:06:19.210 --> 01:06:21.040
  • push back against is
  • 01:06:21.040 --> 01:06:22.080
  • the "I'm not what I do."
  • 01:06:22.080 --> 01:06:23.260
  • And they say, "Hang on a minute.
  • 01:06:23.260 --> 01:06:25.030
  • No, what we do is really,
  • 01:06:25.030 --> 01:06:26.290
  • really important."
  • 01:06:26.290 --> 01:06:28.080
  • But what we're--but in
  • 01:06:28.080 --> 01:06:29.110
  • Christianity, everything's about
  • 01:06:29.110 --> 01:06:30.170
  • the order of things.
  • 01:06:30.170 --> 01:06:31.200
  • When we're in love with God,
  • 01:06:31.200 --> 01:06:32.280
  • when we feel God's love, we do
  • 01:06:32.280 --> 01:06:35.010
  • what we do because it's joyful.
  • 01:06:35.010 --> 01:06:37.200
  • It's what we wanna do.
  • 01:06:37.200 --> 01:06:38.230
  • It comes naturally.
  • 01:06:38.230 --> 01:06:40.020
  • And that's kind of what
  • 01:06:40.020 --> 01:06:41.060
  • you're saying.
  • 01:06:41.060 --> 01:06:42.040
  • I'm hearing you say that you--
  • 01:06:42.040 --> 01:06:43.060
  • It sounds like you're saying
  • 01:06:43.060 --> 01:06:44.120
  • you were constantly trying
  • 01:06:44.120 --> 01:06:46.090
  • harder to prove yourself.
  • 01:06:46.090 --> 01:06:48.190
  • - Leif: I did.
  • 01:06:48.190 --> 01:06:49.170
  • And no matter how much--I mean,
  • 01:06:49.170 --> 01:06:51.040
  • we could have had 15.000 people
  • 01:06:51.040 --> 01:06:52.130
  • It didn't matter what I did,
  • 01:06:54.170 --> 01:06:57.170
  • but I still had
  • 01:06:57.170 --> 01:06:58.210
  • that black hole in my soul.
  • 01:06:58.210 --> 01:07:00.260
  • But that day when that baptism
  • 01:07:00.260 --> 01:07:02.080
  • of love that was taking place,
  • 01:07:02.080 --> 01:07:04.120
  • the affirmation of my father.
  • 01:07:04.120 --> 01:07:06.280
  • At that moment,
  • 01:07:06.280 --> 01:07:07.280
  • something changed.
  • 01:07:07.280 --> 01:07:08.230
  • what people are afraid of,
  • 01:07:10.290 --> 01:07:11.250
  • that it was not gonna be
  • 01:07:11.250 --> 01:07:12.260
  • so much fruit.
  • 01:07:12.260 --> 01:07:13.250
  • There's been so much
  • 01:07:13.250 --> 01:07:14.230
  • more fruit since then,
  • 01:07:14.230 --> 01:07:16.240
  • but it comes from the very thing
  • 01:07:16.240 --> 01:07:18.030
  • that you were saying.
  • 01:07:18.030 --> 01:07:19.130
  • Because before, it was you do
  • 01:07:19.130 --> 01:07:21.260
  • and then because of what you do,
  • 01:07:21.260 --> 01:07:23.070
  • then you have.
  • 01:07:23.070 --> 01:07:24.120
  • And because of what you have,
  • 01:07:24.120 --> 01:07:25.190
  • that's how you become.
  • 01:07:25.190 --> 01:07:26.240
  • That was the system
  • 01:07:26.240 --> 01:07:28.000
  • that I was raised around.
  • 01:07:28.000 --> 01:07:29.030
  • But now it is I am a Son.
  • 01:07:29.030 --> 01:07:31.290
  • - Bobby: Yeah, absolutely.
  • 01:07:31.290 --> 01:07:33.030
  • - Leif: I am already a Son.
  • 01:07:33.030 --> 01:07:34.140
  • And because of who I am,
  • 01:07:34.140 --> 01:07:36.040
  • I already have.
  • 01:07:36.040 --> 01:07:37.100
  • All that I have is yours,
  • 01:07:37.100 --> 01:07:38.270
  • Papa God says.
  • 01:07:38.270 --> 01:07:40.030
  • And because of what I have,
  • 01:07:40.030 --> 01:07:41.060
  • now this is just what I do.
  • 01:07:41.060 --> 01:07:42.250
  • So it's not what you do that
  • 01:07:42.250 --> 01:07:44.000
  • makes you who you are.
  • 01:07:44.000 --> 01:07:45.030
  • It is who you are that makes you
  • 01:07:45.030 --> 01:07:46.180
  • do what you do.
  • 01:07:46.180 --> 01:07:47.210
  • - Bobby: That's right.
  • 01:07:47.210 --> 01:07:48.190
  • It's the order of things,
  • 01:07:48.190 --> 01:07:49.080
  • that's right.
  • 01:07:49.080 --> 01:07:50.080
  • You're gonna get me preaching,
  • 01:07:50.080 --> 01:07:51.010
  • Leif, and I--
  • 01:07:51.010 --> 01:07:52.060
  • [audience applauding]
  • 01:07:52.060 --> 01:07:54.020
  • And when you look--
  • 01:07:54.020 --> 01:07:55.070
  • If you look at Jesus Christ
  • 01:07:55.070 --> 01:07:56.130
  • as the model of ministry
  • 01:07:56.130 --> 01:07:58.100
  • and how to reach people,
  • 01:07:58.100 --> 01:08:00.150
  • that's how he did it.
  • 01:08:00.150 --> 01:08:01.260
  • - Leif: Yeah.
  • 01:08:01.260 --> 01:08:02.220
  • - Bobby: So you don't have
  • 01:08:02.220 --> 01:08:03.210
  • Jesus going up to sinners,
  • 01:08:03.210 --> 01:08:05.140
  • tax collectors, prostitutes,
  • 01:08:05.140 --> 01:08:07.100
  • saying, "All right,
  • 01:08:07.100 --> 01:08:08.230
  • here's what you need to do.
  • 01:08:08.230 --> 01:08:10.060
  • Do all these things right
  • 01:08:10.060 --> 01:08:12.110
  • and then, when you pass
  • 01:08:12.110 --> 01:08:13.160
  • the test, then you can--"
  • 01:08:13.160 --> 01:08:15.190
  • right?
  • 01:08:15.190 --> 01:08:16.190
  • He just goes up to 'em
  • 01:08:16.190 --> 01:08:17.190
  • and he says, "Come follow me.
  • 01:08:17.190 --> 01:08:18.170
  • Come spend time with me."
  • 01:08:18.170 --> 01:08:19.190
  • They hadn't affirmed anything.
  • 01:08:19.190 --> 01:08:20.210
  • They didn't--some of them, they
  • 01:08:20.210 --> 01:08:21.220
  • might not even know who he was.
  • 01:08:21.220 --> 01:08:22.260
  • Rabbi Jesus was just going
  • 01:08:22.260 --> 01:08:23.260
  • around, call--and it was a huge
  • 01:08:23.260 --> 01:08:25.050
  • honor to call somebody
  • 01:08:25.050 --> 01:08:26.140
  • to be your disciple.
  • 01:08:26.140 --> 01:08:27.130
  • And so here he was calling
  • 01:08:27.130 --> 01:08:28.170
  • sinners that were normally
  • 01:08:28.170 --> 01:08:29.230
  • outside of the religious
  • 01:08:29.230 --> 01:08:30.250
  • community to just be in.
  • 01:08:30.250 --> 01:08:32.100
  • And then to add insult
  • 01:08:32.100 --> 01:08:33.140
  • to injury, he would eat with
  • 01:08:33.140 --> 01:08:35.070
  • people, which in those days was,
  • 01:08:35.070 --> 01:08:37.000
  • like, calling someone, you know,
  • 01:08:37.000 --> 01:08:38.120
  • an equal or brother, sister.
  • 01:08:38.120 --> 01:08:39.140
  • It was a huge honor
  • 01:08:39.140 --> 01:08:40.160
  • to eat with someone.
  • 01:08:40.160 --> 01:08:41.140
  • Here's Jesus eating
  • 01:08:41.140 --> 01:08:42.140
  • with outsiders.
  • 01:08:42.140 --> 01:08:43.160
  • I mean, he's just--just that
  • 01:08:43.160 --> 01:08:44.200
  • alone is him ascribing dignity
  • 01:08:44.200 --> 01:08:47.050
  • and love to sinful people.
  • 01:08:47.050 --> 01:08:48.240
  • And in that, he just transforms
  • 01:08:48.240 --> 01:08:49.250
  • people's hearts
  • 01:08:49.250 --> 01:08:50.240
  • and brings 'em home.
  • 01:08:50.240 --> 01:08:52.150
  • And that's what he's doing today
  • 01:08:52.150 --> 01:08:53.280
  • in your life and in mine.
  • 01:08:53.280 --> 01:08:56.020
  • So we fall in love with God as
  • 01:08:56.020 --> 01:08:57.140
  • the beloved sons and daughters
  • 01:08:57.140 --> 01:08:58.160
  • and then we do what is right.
  • 01:08:58.160 --> 01:08:59.270
  • We live out the Word of God
  • 01:08:59.270 --> 01:09:01.010
  • with joy.
  • 01:09:01.010 --> 01:09:02.010
  • - Leif: Amen.
  • 01:09:02.010 --> 01:09:03.020
  • - Bobby: Amen, okay, great.
  • 01:09:03.020 --> 01:09:04.100
  • And so this is affecting--
  • 01:09:04.100 --> 01:09:05.150
  • so you're a missionary
  • 01:09:05.150 --> 01:09:06.190
  • to the Muslim world then too.
  • 01:09:06.190 --> 01:09:07.240
  • - Leif: Yeah, my primary call,
  • 01:09:07.240 --> 01:09:09.100
  • again, assignment,
  • 01:09:09.100 --> 01:09:10.230
  • for the last 20 years,
  • 01:09:10.230 --> 01:09:11.250
  • I've been going into
  • 01:09:11.250 --> 01:09:12.270
  • the Muslim world, as well
  • 01:09:12.270 --> 01:09:14.160
  • as building relationship with
  • 01:09:14.160 --> 01:09:16.070
  • a lot of the top Muslim leaders.
  • 01:09:16.070 --> 01:09:17.160
  • Actually, they call me
  • 01:09:17.160 --> 01:09:19.130
  • the Ambassador of Love.
  • 01:09:19.130 --> 01:09:21.000
  • Even last time, the government
  • 01:09:21.000 --> 01:09:22.140
  • of Pakistan introduced me.
  • 01:09:22.140 --> 01:09:24.040
  • It was a privilege for me
  • 01:09:24.040 --> 01:09:25.140
  • because that doesn't exist
  • 01:09:25.140 --> 01:09:26.180
  • in Islam.
  • 01:09:26.180 --> 01:09:27.250
  • But they said today, we have
  • 01:09:27.250 --> 01:09:29.180
  • the Ambassador of Love,
  • 01:09:29.180 --> 01:09:31.060
  • Dr. Leif Hetland.
  • 01:09:31.060 --> 01:09:32.260
  • And I was, like, whoa.
  • 01:09:32.260 --> 01:09:34.260
  • They must see something
  • 01:09:34.260 --> 01:09:35.260
  • that my Papa sees in me.
  • 01:09:35.260 --> 01:09:37.170
  • - Bobby: Yeah, that's powerful.
  • 01:09:37.170 --> 01:09:38.250
  • And how does that affect
  • 01:09:38.250 --> 01:09:40.200
  • the way you share the gospel
  • 01:09:40.200 --> 01:09:42.170
  • with a Muslim?
  • 01:09:42.170 --> 01:09:44.190
  • - Leif: Well, I think
  • 01:09:44.190 --> 01:09:45.200
  • that in the beginning stages,
  • 01:09:45.200 --> 01:09:47.060
  • because I started
  • 01:09:47.060 --> 01:09:48.180
  • to build relationship.
  • 01:09:48.180 --> 01:09:50.080
  • I started to see that
  • 01:09:50.080 --> 01:09:51.160
  • before I always had an agenda.
  • 01:09:51.160 --> 01:09:54.020
  • I always had a hook.
  • 01:09:54.020 --> 01:09:55.060
  • I maybe build some relationship
  • 01:09:55.060 --> 01:09:56.120
  • with the purpose
  • 01:09:56.120 --> 01:09:57.170
  • I could get favor.
  • 01:09:57.170 --> 01:09:58.190
  • So I could share the gospel
  • 01:09:58.190 --> 01:09:59.240
  • or I could reach out
  • 01:09:59.240 --> 01:10:01.190
  • to the persecuted church
  • 01:10:01.190 --> 01:10:02.290
  • and train them.
  • 01:10:02.290 --> 01:10:04.040
  • So I always had an agenda.
  • 01:10:04.040 --> 01:10:05.190
  • And God says, "Why don't you
  • 01:10:05.190 --> 01:10:07.000
  • just learn how to love them
  • 01:10:07.000 --> 01:10:08.220
  • without a hook?
  • 01:10:08.220 --> 01:10:09.270
  • Without an agenda?"
  • 01:10:09.270 --> 01:10:11.060
  • And somehow they didn't know
  • 01:10:11.060 --> 01:10:12.050
  • what to do with that.
  • 01:10:12.050 --> 01:10:14.000
  • It disarmed them
  • 01:10:14.000 --> 01:10:15.050
  • because this perfect love
  • 01:10:15.050 --> 01:10:16.090
  • they'd experience,
  • 01:10:16.090 --> 01:10:17.160
  • so now in the next moment,
  • 01:10:17.160 --> 01:10:18.190
  • they started to look at me
  • 01:10:18.190 --> 01:10:19.230
  • and they were left
  • 01:10:19.230 --> 01:10:20.280
  • with questions.
  • 01:10:20.280 --> 01:10:22.000
  • And that started
  • 01:10:22.000 --> 01:10:23.020
  • to give me favor.
  • 01:10:23.020 --> 01:10:24.050
  • And the other thing
  • 01:10:24.050 --> 01:10:25.050
  • that has been a key for me
  • 01:10:25.050 --> 01:10:26.030
  • is just learning how to be a son
  • 01:10:26.030 --> 01:10:27.180
  • to the pharaohs.
  • 01:10:27.180 --> 01:10:28.290
  • So I'm walking into
  • 01:10:28.290 --> 01:10:30.000
  • the pharaoh's home.
  • 01:10:30.000 --> 01:10:31.020
  • Like Joseph he became the father
  • 01:10:31.020 --> 01:10:32.200
  • to the Pharaoh and the reason
  • 01:10:32.200 --> 01:10:34.000
  • was he was such a son
  • 01:10:34.000 --> 01:10:35.080
  • to Pharaoh.
  • 01:10:35.080 --> 01:10:36.130
  • So I'm come again and I believe
  • 01:10:36.130 --> 01:10:37.160
  • that the sonship is the most
  • 01:10:37.160 --> 01:10:38.280
  • beautiful ship in the world.
  • 01:10:38.280 --> 01:10:40.070
  • - Bobby: Yeah, ha, ha.
  • 01:10:40.070 --> 01:10:41.130
  • Wonderful.
  • 01:10:41.130 --> 01:10:42.140
  • - Leif: And the ladies are
  • 01:10:42.140 --> 01:10:43.180
  • included in it, by the way.
  • 01:10:43.180 --> 01:10:44.160
  • - Bobby: Of course, yeah, yeah.
  • 01:10:44.160 --> 01:10:45.210
  • And we're all the sons
  • 01:10:45.210 --> 01:10:46.230
  • and daughters of God.
  • 01:10:46.230 --> 01:10:47.250
  • You know, it was interesting
  • 01:10:47.250 --> 01:10:48.290
  • when I was in Turkey not long
  • 01:10:48.290 --> 01:10:50.120
  • ago, there was a wonderful
  • 01:10:50.120 --> 01:10:52.150
  • Muslim man that
  • 01:10:52.150 --> 01:10:53.190
  • was my translator.
  • 01:10:53.190 --> 01:10:55.090
  • And he was a pretty dedicated
  • 01:10:56.050 --> 01:10:59.050
  • Muslim.
  • 01:10:59.050 --> 01:11:00.080
  • He did say that in Islam they
  • 01:11:00.080 --> 01:11:01.090
  • need a reformation but he said
  • 01:11:01.090 --> 01:11:02.290
  • something I never forgot because
  • 01:11:02.290 --> 01:11:04.170
  • he was hearing me preach often.
  • 01:11:04.170 --> 01:11:06.020
  • And he said, "I think
  • 01:11:06.020 --> 01:11:07.080
  • the biggest difference
  • 01:11:07.080 --> 01:11:08.060
  • between Islam and Christianity
  • 01:11:08.060 --> 01:11:10.010
  • is we say Allah is merciful,
  • 01:11:10.010 --> 01:11:12.270
  • but you say God is love."
  • 01:11:12.270 --> 01:11:15.060
  • So, God is merciful
  • 01:11:15.060 --> 01:11:16.120
  • versus God is love.
  • 01:11:16.120 --> 01:11:17.290
  • And, you know, in a way, I mean,
  • 01:11:18.200 --> 01:11:21.200
  • I--in a way it almost sounds
  • 01:11:21.200 --> 01:11:23.270
  • like--I think what he was saying
  • 01:11:23.270 --> 01:11:25.110
  • is essentially what you were
  • 01:11:25.110 --> 01:11:27.140
  • saying, that is we almost
  • 01:11:27.140 --> 01:11:29.030
  • many times as Christians God
  • 01:11:29.030 --> 01:11:30.150
  • is only merciful and we forget
  • 01:11:30.150 --> 01:11:32.070
  • the love piece, huh?
  • 01:11:32.070 --> 01:11:33.210
  • - Leif: Yeah, I think so.
  • 01:11:33.210 --> 01:11:34.240
  • Now, I had some tremendous
  • 01:11:34.240 --> 01:11:36.030
  • stories and testimonies.
  • 01:11:36.030 --> 01:11:37.130
  • I mean, one of them I just
  • 01:11:37.130 --> 01:11:38.240
  • interviewed him last week
  • 01:11:38.240 --> 01:11:40.170
  • where he actually experienced
  • 01:11:40.170 --> 01:11:42.150
  • a baptism of love.
  • 01:11:42.150 --> 01:11:44.020
  • He's a Shia Muslim from Iraq,
  • 01:11:44.020 --> 01:11:45.260
  • and as these waves
  • 01:11:45.260 --> 01:11:46.280
  • of liquid love--
  • 01:11:46.280 --> 01:11:47.280
  • he came actually to the meeting
  • 01:11:47.280 --> 01:11:49.050
  • because he didn't believe
  • 01:11:49.050 --> 01:11:50.170
  • at all that Jesus was
  • 01:11:50.170 --> 01:11:51.290
  • the Son of God.
  • 01:11:51.290 --> 01:11:52.290
  • He believed he was a prophet.
  • 01:11:52.290 --> 01:11:54.120
  • But then he had an encounter
  • 01:11:54.120 --> 01:11:55.190
  • with the Father and experienced
  • 01:11:55.190 --> 01:11:57.080
  • for the first time
  • 01:11:57.080 --> 01:11:58.120
  • in his life love.
  • 01:11:58.120 --> 01:11:59.190
  • He experienced
  • 01:11:59.190 --> 01:12:00.180
  • the Father's love.
  • 01:12:00.180 --> 01:12:01.190
  • And then after this encounter,
  • 01:12:01.190 --> 01:12:02.210
  • the Father said to him,
  • 01:12:02.210 --> 01:12:03.170
  • "Now I'm going to introduce you
  • 01:12:03.170 --> 01:12:04.250
  • to my Son, Jesus,
  • 01:12:04.250 --> 01:12:06.160
  • my only begotten Son."
  • 01:12:06.160 --> 01:12:08.030
  • And that's how he got saved.
  • 01:12:08.030 --> 01:12:09.130
  • So I think it was very
  • 01:12:09.130 --> 01:12:10.140
  • interesting when he was telling
  • 01:12:10.140 --> 01:12:11.140
  • me how he got saved, it was that
  • 01:12:11.140 --> 01:12:12.210
  • the Father introduced him
  • 01:12:12.210 --> 01:12:14.020
  • and showed him who Jesus was.
  • 01:12:14.020 --> 01:12:15.220
  • And he was totally transformed.
  • 01:12:15.220 --> 01:12:17.130
  • - Bobby: Powerful.
  • 01:12:17.130 --> 01:12:18.230
  • So is most of your work--
  • 01:12:19.100 --> 01:12:22.100
  • most of your work
  • 01:12:22.100 --> 01:12:23.130
  • is in Pakistan, then, or?
  • 01:12:23.130 --> 01:12:24.160
  • - Leif: Yeah, it is all over.
  • 01:12:24.160 --> 01:12:25.220
  • I've been to 87 countries,
  • 01:12:25.220 --> 01:12:27.210
  • so I travel.
  • 01:12:27.210 --> 01:12:29.000
  • Pretty much every month
  • 01:12:29.000 --> 01:12:30.010
  • I'm in different parts
  • 01:12:30.010 --> 01:12:31.020
  • of the world.
  • 01:12:31.020 --> 01:12:32.030
  • But I've received tremendous
  • 01:12:32.030 --> 01:12:32.230
  • a lot of relationship
  • 01:12:34.290 --> 01:12:35.160
  • both with the government
  • 01:12:35.160 --> 01:12:36.200
  • but also with the top
  • 01:12:36.200 --> 01:12:37.240
  • Sunni Muslim, Shia Muslim.
  • 01:12:37.240 --> 01:12:39.110
  • And so as a result of 20 years
  • 01:12:39.110 --> 01:12:41.220
  • of building relationship there,
  • 01:12:41.220 --> 01:12:43.110
  • that has also opened up favor
  • 01:12:43.110 --> 01:12:44.220
  • with a lot of other nations
  • 01:12:44.220 --> 01:12:46.010
  • in the world because,
  • 01:12:46.010 --> 01:12:47.060
  • of course, the Shia Muslims,
  • 01:12:47.060 --> 01:12:48.170
  • that's a connection
  • 01:12:48.170 --> 01:12:49.030
  • and other places.
  • 01:12:51.090 --> 01:12:52.040
  • So we started just
  • 01:12:52.040 --> 01:12:53.020
  • to build trust relationship
  • 01:12:53.020 --> 01:12:55.020
  • and then out of that,
  • 01:12:55.020 --> 01:12:56.050
  • has given me favor.
  • 01:12:56.050 --> 01:12:57.080
  • So we do some of the bigger
  • 01:12:57.080 --> 01:12:58.160
  • healing festivals,
  • 01:12:58.160 --> 01:12:59.290
  • gospel festivals,
  • 01:12:59.290 --> 01:13:01.070
  • where we do stadium events.
  • 01:13:01.070 --> 01:13:02.200
  • But also ministering
  • 01:13:02.200 --> 01:13:03.230
  • to the persecuted church
  • 01:13:03.230 --> 01:13:05.050
  • and also we do
  • 01:13:05.050 --> 01:13:06.050
  • peace conferences.
  • 01:13:06.050 --> 01:13:07.080
  • So several times, like,
  • 01:13:07.080 --> 01:13:08.280
  • when there's been mass killings
  • 01:13:08.280 --> 01:13:10.140
  • and persecution,
  • 01:13:10.140 --> 01:13:11.200
  • we step in and I bring in
  • 01:13:11.200 --> 01:13:13.230
  • some of the Muslim Imams
  • 01:13:13.230 --> 01:13:15.070
  • to stand in the gap there
  • 01:13:15.070 --> 01:13:17.130
  • and even also to bring
  • 01:13:17.130 --> 01:13:18.180
  • some of the--I mean, to condemn
  • 01:13:18.180 --> 01:13:19.230
  • some of the things
  • 01:13:19.230 --> 01:13:20.270
  • that is taking place.
  • 01:13:20.270 --> 01:13:22.020
  • - Bobby: Yeah, and of course,
  • 01:13:22.020 --> 01:13:23.050
  • your ultimate goal is actually
  • 01:13:23.050 --> 01:13:24.120
  • to evangelize Muslims, right?
  • 01:13:24.120 --> 01:13:26.020
  • I mean, that's not a safe job,
  • 01:13:26.020 --> 01:13:27.100
  • is it?
  • 01:13:27.100 --> 01:13:28.160
  • Especially in the Middle East.
  • 01:13:28.160 --> 01:13:29.190
  • - Leif: I just--I have
  • 01:13:29.190 --> 01:13:30.230
  • a very simple thing.
  • 01:13:30.230 --> 01:13:31.230
  • I want everybody to have a God
  • 01:13:31.230 --> 01:13:33.160
  • that looks like Jesus because
  • 01:13:33.160 --> 01:13:35.220
  • Jesus is perfect theology.
  • 01:13:35.220 --> 01:13:38.010
  • - Bobby: Yeah, yeah,
  • 01:13:38.010 --> 01:13:39.020
  • that's right.
  • 01:13:39.020 --> 01:13:40.020
  • So--but to be clear though,
  • 01:13:40.020 --> 01:13:41.050
  • but you do wanna see
  • 01:13:41.050 --> 01:13:42.070
  • these people come to faith
  • 01:13:42.070 --> 01:13:43.100
  • in Jesus Christ and actually
  • 01:13:43.100 --> 01:13:44.250
  • become Christians or no?
  • 01:13:44.250 --> 01:13:46.090
  • - Leif: Yes, definitely.
  • 01:13:46.090 --> 01:13:47.150
  • - Bobby: So what's
  • 01:13:47.150 --> 01:13:48.200
  • that like, then?
  • 01:13:48.200 --> 01:13:49.170
  • I mean, because in Islam,
  • 01:13:49.170 --> 01:13:50.190
  • especially in some of these kind
  • 01:13:50.190 --> 01:13:52.270
  • of hardcore Middle Eastern
  • 01:13:52.270 --> 01:13:54.120
  • countries, I would think,
  • 01:13:54.120 --> 01:13:55.240
  • you know, Iran, you know,
  • 01:13:55.240 --> 01:13:58.170
  • some other areas like that,
  • 01:13:58.170 --> 01:13:59.210
  • it's a big deal if someone is--
  • 01:13:59.210 --> 01:14:01.150
  • I mean, it's a big deal
  • 01:14:01.150 --> 01:14:02.180
  • if a Muslim becomes a Christian,
  • 01:14:02.180 --> 01:14:03.200
  • but you know, their lives
  • 01:14:03.200 --> 01:14:05.060
  • are in danger, right?
  • 01:14:05.060 --> 01:14:06.070
  • If they do that.
  • 01:14:06.070 --> 01:14:07.080
  • Do you face any persecution
  • 01:14:07.080 --> 01:14:08.200
  • or challenges in that way or?
  • 01:14:08.200 --> 01:14:10.180
  • - Leif: Yeah, it's been--
  • 01:14:10.180 --> 01:14:11.230
  • - Bobby: And I'm surprised
  • 01:14:11.230 --> 01:14:12.230
  • they continue to--
  • 01:14:12.230 --> 01:14:13.200
  • you're getting invited, right?
  • 01:14:13.200 --> 01:14:14.210
  • - Leif: Yeah.
  • 01:14:14.210 --> 01:14:15.170
  • And it's had a high cost.
  • 01:14:15.170 --> 01:14:16.200
  • I've had a lot of broken bones
  • 01:14:16.200 --> 01:14:18.150
  • in my body and we've lost a lot
  • 01:14:18.150 --> 01:14:20.030
  • of lives over the journey.
  • 01:14:20.030 --> 01:14:21.200
  • So there is the other side of
  • 01:14:21.200 --> 01:14:23.140
  • the cross that has been a very,
  • 01:14:23.140 --> 01:14:24.240
  • very painful journey.
  • 01:14:24.240 --> 01:14:26.000
  • I think that some of the
  • 01:14:26.000 --> 01:14:27.050
  • weakness we had in the earlier
  • 01:14:27.050 --> 01:14:28.210
  • days is the lack of wisdom.
  • 01:14:28.210 --> 01:14:31.020
  • He says, "I have not given you
  • 01:14:31.020 --> 01:14:32.160
  • a spirit of fear.
  • 01:14:32.160 --> 01:14:33.240
  • But what I've given you is
  • 01:14:33.240 --> 01:14:35.000
  • a spirit of power, love,
  • 01:14:35.000 --> 01:14:36.170
  • and a sound mind."
  • 01:14:36.170 --> 01:14:37.250
  • I think that when love
  • 01:14:37.250 --> 01:14:38.280
  • is in the center,
  • 01:14:38.280 --> 01:14:40.000
  • you can have as much power
  • 01:14:40.000 --> 01:14:41.020
  • and wisdom to flow out of love.
  • 01:14:41.020 --> 01:14:43.150
  • So love is the language
  • 01:14:43.150 --> 01:14:45.070
  • that blind eyes can see
  • 01:14:45.070 --> 01:14:46.150
  • and the deaf ears can hear.
  • 01:14:46.150 --> 01:14:48.100
  • And so I feel that for myself
  • 01:14:48.100 --> 01:14:50.150
  • now when we're seeing a lot
  • 01:14:50.150 --> 01:14:51.270
  • of people that are having
  • 01:14:51.270 --> 01:14:53.090
  • encounters with Jesus,
  • 01:14:53.090 --> 01:14:54.170
  • we're also learning that
  • 01:14:54.170 --> 01:14:56.020
  • before we wanted them to join
  • 01:14:56.020 --> 01:14:57.200
  • Christianity as a religion,
  • 01:14:57.200 --> 01:14:59.040
  • and we didn't know
  • 01:14:59.040 --> 01:15:00.130
  • the difference.
  • 01:15:00.130 --> 01:15:01.130
  • Now we have a whole discipleship
  • 01:15:01.130 --> 01:15:02.170
  • movement and it is tremendous to
  • 01:15:02.170 --> 01:15:04.200
  • be able to see how they have
  • 01:15:04.200 --> 01:15:06.050
  • fallen in love with Jesus.
  • 01:15:06.050 --> 01:15:07.170
  • How they are growing in Jesus,
  • 01:15:07.170 --> 01:15:09.010
  • getting to know the Holy Spirit,
  • 01:15:09.010 --> 01:15:10.130
  • having encounters that I'm just
  • 01:15:10.130 --> 01:15:12.000
  • jealous that they get to have
  • 01:15:12.000 --> 01:15:13.140
  • some of those experiences
  • 01:15:13.140 --> 01:15:14.200
  • that I never had.
  • 01:15:14.200 --> 01:15:16.010
  • So I was just actually
  • 01:15:16.010 --> 01:15:17.070
  • in Europe.
  • 01:15:17.070 --> 01:15:18.120
  • Met with some from Syria, Iraq,
  • 01:15:18.120 --> 01:15:19.150
  • and Iran.
  • 01:15:19.150 --> 01:15:20.180
  • Many of the refugees,
  • 01:15:20.180 --> 01:15:21.190
  • 3 weeks ago, they came in.
  • 01:15:21.190 --> 01:15:22.220
  • And this incredible story of all
  • 01:15:22.220 --> 01:15:25.110
  • of them have had encounters
  • 01:15:25.110 --> 01:15:26.230
  • with Jesus.
  • 01:15:26.230 --> 01:15:27.260
  • Jesus has appeared before them,
  • 01:15:27.260 --> 01:15:29.110
  • either through dreams
  • 01:15:29.110 --> 01:15:30.180
  • or vision or encounters.
  • 01:15:30.180 --> 01:15:32.080
  • And they are totally changed.
  • 01:15:32.080 --> 01:15:33.150
  • And the faces was almost
  • 01:15:33.150 --> 01:15:34.220
  • glowing, just based
  • 01:15:34.220 --> 01:15:36.190
  • upon the encounter they had
  • 01:15:36.190 --> 01:15:37.250
  • with Jesus.
  • 01:15:37.250 --> 01:15:39.010
  • - Bobby: Yeah, powerful.
  • 01:15:39.010 --> 01:15:40.020
  • What do you think about
  • 01:15:40.020 --> 01:15:41.070
  • what's happening in the world?
  • 01:15:41.070 --> 01:15:42.070
  • I mean, right now you've
  • 01:15:42.070 --> 01:15:43.080
  • got--you're European
  • 01:15:43.080 --> 01:15:44.070
  • but you live in Atlanta
  • 01:15:44.070 --> 01:15:45.090
  • so you're American, I assume.
  • 01:15:45.090 --> 01:15:46.110
  • You still live in Atlanta?
  • 01:15:46.110 --> 01:15:47.110
  • - Leif: Yes, I sure do.
  • 01:15:47.110 --> 01:15:48.110
  • - Bobby: Yeah, so okay.
  • 01:15:48.110 --> 01:15:49.100
  • But you know, Europe has changed
  • 01:15:49.100 --> 01:15:50.100
  • quite a lot, even the last 10,
  • 01:15:50.100 --> 01:15:51.100
  • 15 years and there's many
  • 01:15:51.100 --> 01:15:52.170
  • watching in Europe even
  • 01:15:52.170 --> 01:15:53.210
  • right now.
  • 01:15:53.210 --> 01:15:55.140
  • And all of the immigrants from
  • 01:15:55.140 --> 01:15:58.030
  • the Middle East, I mean, what
  • 01:15:58.030 --> 01:15:59.200
  • are your thoughts on that and--
  • 01:15:59.200 --> 01:16:01.170
  • - Leif: And I think there
  • 01:16:01.170 --> 01:16:02.190
  • is two different ways
  • 01:16:02.190 --> 01:16:03.200
  • of looking at.
  • 01:16:03.200 --> 01:16:04.210
  • You had the natural aspect
  • 01:16:04.210 --> 01:16:05.250
  • where you can see it then.
  • 01:16:05.250 --> 01:16:07.020
  • And there's a lot of concern.
  • 01:16:07.020 --> 01:16:08.100
  • But part of my philosophy is
  • 01:16:08.100 --> 01:16:10.130
  • that we don't have a darkness
  • 01:16:10.130 --> 01:16:11.230
  • problem in the world.
  • 01:16:11.230 --> 01:16:12.250
  • We have a lack of light.
  • 01:16:12.250 --> 01:16:14.110
  • - Bobby: Yeah.
  • 01:16:14.110 --> 01:16:15.150
  • Explain that, yeah.
  • 01:16:15.150 --> 01:16:16.230
  • - Leif: I'm saying, like,
  • 01:16:16.230 --> 01:16:17.250
  • a lot of the different places,
  • 01:16:17.250 --> 01:16:18.250
  • when darkness is coming in
  • 01:16:18.250 --> 01:16:20.020
  • because we never took the light
  • 01:16:20.020 --> 01:16:21.160
  • to them.
  • 01:16:21.160 --> 01:16:22.160
  • And it doesn't matter how dark
  • 01:16:22.160 --> 01:16:23.180
  • it is in this room, you could
  • 01:16:23.180 --> 01:16:24.230
  • turn off all of these lights
  • 01:16:24.230 --> 01:16:26.180
  • in this studio.
  • 01:16:26.180 --> 01:16:27.260
  • But if I turn on the light,
  • 01:16:27.260 --> 01:16:29.040
  • darkness moves out.
  • 01:16:29.040 --> 01:16:30.250
  • So Jesus is the light
  • 01:16:30.250 --> 01:16:32.030
  • seeing over and over again,
  • 01:16:34.090 --> 01:16:35.230
  • many of us we're operating
  • 01:16:35.230 --> 01:16:37.070
  • from a place of fear
  • 01:16:37.070 --> 01:16:38.200
  • instead of love.
  • 01:16:38.200 --> 01:16:40.010
  • And I think we only have
  • 01:16:40.010 --> 01:16:41.040
  • authority over what we love.
  • 01:16:41.040 --> 01:16:43.080
  • So part of my assignment
  • 01:16:43.080 --> 01:16:44.150
  • in Europe is also to be able
  • 01:16:44.150 --> 01:16:45.290
  • or is it a promise?
  • 01:16:48.050 --> 01:16:49.130
  • Depending how you see it.
  • 01:16:49.130 --> 01:16:51.180
  • - Bobby: Well, how would Islam
  • 01:16:51.180 --> 01:16:52.200
  • be a promise?
  • 01:16:52.200 --> 01:16:53.210
  • - Leif: A promise when we know
  • 01:16:53.210 --> 01:16:55.020
  • very clearly in this time
  • 01:16:55.020 --> 01:16:56.100
  • that we're living in.
  • 01:16:56.100 --> 01:16:57.190
  • I believe that there's going
  • 01:16:57.190 --> 01:16:58.210
  • to be at least a billion people
  • 01:16:58.210 --> 01:17:00.030
  • that are coming
  • 01:17:00.030 --> 01:17:01.040
  • into the kingdom.
  • 01:17:01.040 --> 01:17:02.100
  • The greatest harvest
  • 01:17:02.100 --> 01:17:03.130
  • is yet to come.
  • 01:17:03.130 --> 01:17:04.120
  • So I just have a world view
  • 01:17:04.120 --> 01:17:05.140
  • where the kingdom of the Lord is
  • 01:17:05.140 --> 01:17:06.240
  • gonna become the kingdom of this
  • 01:17:06.240 --> 01:17:07.290
  • world and he's going to rule
  • 01:17:07.290 --> 01:17:09.160
  • and reign forever so there is
  • 01:17:09.160 --> 01:17:11.180
  • Muslims just--I give you
  • 01:17:11.180 --> 01:17:13.240
  • one example, Iran, that is known
  • 01:17:13.240 --> 01:17:15.280
  • as the axis of all evil.
  • 01:17:15.280 --> 01:17:18.010
  • But in Iran,
  • 01:17:18.010 --> 01:17:19.060
  • while all of this tension
  • 01:17:19.060 --> 01:17:20.190
  • and we've been living in fear
  • 01:17:20.190 --> 01:17:21.240
  • and we're hearing all
  • 01:17:21.240 --> 01:17:22.250
  • the horrific things
  • 01:17:22.250 --> 01:17:23.290
  • taking place that more people
  • 01:17:23.290 --> 01:17:25.150
  • has been saved in Iran
  • 01:17:25.150 --> 01:17:26.240
  • in the last 10 years
  • 01:17:26.240 --> 01:17:27.290
  • than the previous 1.000 years.
  • 01:17:27.290 --> 01:17:29.160
  • - Bobby: Really?
  • 01:17:29.160 --> 01:17:30.180
  • - Leif: Yeah, and they say
  • 01:17:30.180 --> 01:17:31.160
  • between 2.5 million to
  • 01:17:31.160 --> 01:17:32.130
  • 3 million born-again believers
  • 01:17:32.130 --> 01:17:33.250
  • now in Iran.
  • 01:17:33.250 --> 01:17:34.270
  • I was just with a group
  • 01:17:34.270 --> 01:17:36.020
  • of Iranians that are part
  • 01:17:36.020 --> 01:17:37.140
  • of this move of God's Spirit.
  • 01:17:37.140 --> 01:17:38.290
  • Many of them escaped Iran
  • 01:17:38.290 --> 01:17:40.060
  • because of it.
  • 01:17:40.060 --> 01:17:41.100
  • And I met with them in Europe
  • 01:17:41.100 --> 01:17:42.190
  • and to hear.
  • 01:17:42.190 --> 01:17:43.210
  • So sometimes when we do not see
  • 01:17:43.210 --> 01:17:45.190
  • what God is not doing,
  • 01:17:45.190 --> 01:17:47.080
  • we get distract by what God
  • 01:17:47.080 --> 01:17:48.210
  • is not doing because we don't
  • 01:17:48.210 --> 01:17:50.150
  • see what God is doing.
  • 01:17:50.150 --> 01:17:51.280
  • - Bobby: So what you're saying,
  • 01:17:51.280 --> 01:17:52.290
  • it's like, let's say
  • 01:17:52.290 --> 01:17:54.020
  • you're a Christian in Europe
  • 01:17:54.020 --> 01:17:55.050
  • and many Muslims
  • 01:17:55.050 --> 01:17:57.130
  • who are Middle Eastern,
  • 01:17:57.130 --> 01:17:59.170
  • and sometime
  • 01:17:59.170 --> 01:18:00.210
  • Middle Eastern Christians
  • 01:18:00.210 --> 01:18:01.210
  • are fleeing Syria and other
  • 01:18:01.210 --> 01:18:03.090
  • parts to come to Europe.
  • 01:18:03.090 --> 01:18:05.120
  • That's an opportunity to--
  • 01:18:05.120 --> 01:18:07.040
  • it means, like if I live in
  • 01:18:07.040 --> 01:18:08.090
  • Germany, if I live in Holland,
  • 01:18:08.090 --> 01:18:09.190
  • if I live anywhere else
  • 01:18:09.190 --> 01:18:10.290
  • in Europe, that's an opportunity
  • 01:18:10.290 --> 01:18:13.070
  • for me to share the love of God
  • 01:18:13.070 --> 01:18:14.270
  • and faith in a safe place.
  • 01:18:14.270 --> 01:18:16.210
  • Is that what you're saying?
  • 01:18:16.210 --> 01:18:17.220
  • - Leif: Yeah,
  • 01:18:17.220 --> 01:18:18.240
  • and I just saw it--
  • 01:18:18.240 --> 01:18:19.220
  • - Bobby: So look at as
  • 01:18:19.220 --> 01:18:20.210
  • an opportunity.
  • 01:18:20.210 --> 01:18:21.200
  • It's a promise from God
  • 01:18:21.200 --> 01:18:22.190
  • that--it's almost like God
  • 01:18:22.190 --> 01:18:23.170
  • is giving the harvest.
  • 01:18:23.170 --> 01:18:24.150
  • - Leif: Yeah, and we had just
  • 01:18:24.150 --> 01:18:25.100
  • an example where a group
  • 01:18:25.100 --> 01:18:26.100
  • of concerned citizen met with me
  • 01:18:26.100 --> 01:18:27.100
  • in Norway because of all the
  • 01:18:27.100 --> 01:18:28.190
  • refugees that was coming in.
  • 01:18:28.190 --> 01:18:30.140
  • But after we spent some time
  • 01:18:30.140 --> 01:18:31.260
  • together and they got some new
  • 01:18:31.260 --> 01:18:33.140
  • glasses and was able to see this
  • 01:18:33.140 --> 01:18:35.030
  • from heaven's view, to see this
  • 01:18:35.030 --> 01:18:36.220
  • the way that God was seeing it.
  • 01:18:36.220 --> 01:18:38.030
  • Now, the by-product of that,
  • 01:18:38.030 --> 01:18:39.280
  • they've started to open up the
  • 01:18:39.280 --> 01:18:41.030
  • churches, open up their homes,
  • 01:18:41.030 --> 01:18:42.280
  • and now many people
  • 01:18:42.280 --> 01:18:44.020
  • have got saved.
  • 01:18:44.020 --> 01:18:45.090
  • I met with several of them.
  • 01:18:45.090 --> 01:18:46.120
  • There's been change
  • 01:18:46.120 --> 01:18:47.160
  • because of that we chose
  • 01:18:47.160 --> 01:18:49.120
  • love instead of fear.
  • 01:18:49.120 --> 01:18:51.030
  • And that's always what we're
  • 01:18:51.030 --> 01:18:52.120
  • going to be known for
  • 01:18:52.120 --> 01:18:53.150
  • is the way that we love.
  • 01:18:53.150 --> 01:18:54.200
  • - Bobby: So, yeah, great.
  • 01:18:54.200 --> 01:18:56.260
  • [audience applauding]
  • 01:18:56.260 --> 01:18:58.270
  • Yeah, so by--so your message to
  • 01:18:59.160 --> 01:19:02.180
  • anyone, whether you're wanting
  • 01:19:02.180 --> 01:19:03.290
  • to share your faith with
  • 01:19:03.290 --> 01:19:05.040
  • anybody, whether they're Muslim
  • 01:19:05.040 --> 01:19:06.110
  • or not, is that the best way
  • 01:19:06.110 --> 01:19:07.250
  • to do it is to first begin
  • 01:19:07.250 --> 01:19:09.000
  • with love.
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  • Just like the hymn says,
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  • "To know we're Christian
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  • by our love."
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  • Yeah, that's powerful.
  • 01:19:13.040 --> 01:19:14.090
  • So we're facing a lot of
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  • challenges in the world today
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  • and the way that we approach
  • 01:19:20.060 --> 01:19:21.160
  • these challenges is essentially
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  • by just understanding that we
  • 01:19:22.210 --> 01:19:23.280
  • always begin with love
  • 01:19:23.280 --> 01:19:25.010
  • and what do you say, though,
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  • I mean, what about
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  • the importance
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  • of things like truth
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  • and saying what is right
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  • and standing for what we
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  • believe and, I mean,
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  • there are some times
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  • where we need to press,
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  • we need to stand our ground.
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  • Do you agree or--
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  • - Leif: Oh, definitely,
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  • definitely.
  • 01:19:40.030 --> 01:19:41.030
  • And Jesus was full of grace
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  • and truth.
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  • So truth is very, very important
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  • but many times, as I say,
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  • when we are coming with truth
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  • to the people, if we
  • 01:19:49.000 --> 01:19:50.060
  • do not genuinely love them,
  • 01:19:50.060 --> 01:19:52.050
  • what it does, it's almost
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  • just giving people a diagnosis
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  • that you have cancer
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  • but not coming with a cure.
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  • So just the very thing
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  • that's--the truth is very good
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  • and it's very important
  • 01:20:00.270 --> 01:20:02.020
  • and I had the opportunity,
  • 01:20:02.020 --> 01:20:03.070
  • like I just sat with one
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  • of the top Muslim leaders
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  • of the world.
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  • We spent 3 days together
  • 01:20:06.250 --> 01:20:08.030
  • and he was quoting
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  • from the Al-Quran, I was
  • 01:20:09.050 --> 01:20:10.070
  • quoting from the Bible.
  • 01:20:10.070 --> 01:20:11.180
  • And in the middle of that,
  • 01:20:11.180 --> 01:20:12.220
  • the presence of God came
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  • into this room until he said,
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  • "What is happening?"
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  • I didn't even say anything,
  • 01:20:18.080 --> 01:20:19.290
  • but he started to have
  • 01:20:19.290 --> 01:20:21.050
  • an experience of these waves
  • 01:20:21.050 --> 01:20:22.150
  • that was coming over him.
  • 01:20:22.150 --> 01:20:24.040
  • And he said something afterwards
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  • that was interesting.
  • 01:20:25.180 --> 01:20:26.220
  • There was truth here.
  • 01:20:26.220 --> 01:20:27.240
  • But I could start to argue,
  • 01:20:27.240 --> 01:20:29.010
  • but you don't have a chance
  • 01:20:29.010 --> 01:20:30.040
  • to argue with a Muslim.
  • 01:20:30.040 --> 01:20:31.070
  • Because they have the final
  • 01:20:31.070 --> 01:20:32.110
  • revelation of Allah to mankind.
  • 01:20:32.110 --> 01:20:34.040
  • That's their belief system.
  • 01:20:34.040 --> 01:20:35.100
  • So you don't have
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  • a chance there.
  • 01:20:36.080 --> 01:20:37.060
  • But for them to have
  • 01:20:37.060 --> 01:20:38.000
  • an encounter with love
  • 01:20:38.000 --> 01:20:39.090
  • and in the next moment
  • 01:20:39.090 --> 01:20:40.210
  • they start to, "What is this?
  • 01:20:40.210 --> 01:20:41.220
  • What is it that I experienced?"
  • 01:20:41.220 --> 01:20:43.140
  • And then he got healed
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  • from a stomach condition.
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  • - Bobby: Wow.
  • 01:20:45.220 --> 01:20:46.220
  • - Leif: And I said, "Wow.
  • 01:20:46.220 --> 01:20:47.220
  • That's Jesus the Healer
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  • that just did that."
  • 01:20:48.210 --> 01:20:49.170
  • And then he said something.
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  • He said, "Before I have had
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  • God out there.
  • 01:20:51.230 --> 01:20:52.260
  • Now I have God in here."
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  • - Bobby: Yeah.
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  • Yeah, that's good.
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  • That's a good word.
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  • My grandpa was--
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  • my grandpa Schuller
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  • who you may know,
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  • he was a--he did a lot of work
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  • with the Muslim world,
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  • and I was with him
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  • briefly in Israel.
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  • We went--I didn't get a chance
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  • to go with him but he went to
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  • Damascus and met with
  • 01:21:15.280 --> 01:21:17.230
  • is a major religious leader.
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  • I think there's four of them
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  • or something--it's not--
  • 01:21:22.080 --> 01:21:23.220
  • in Islam.
  • 01:21:23.220 --> 01:21:24.270
  • And was invited to preach.
  • 01:21:24.270 --> 01:21:27.110
  • And he preached the gospel
  • 01:21:27.110 --> 01:21:28.130
  • of Jesus Christ in Damascus
  • 01:21:28.130 --> 01:21:30.030
  • And he's a lot like you,
  • 01:21:32.240 --> 01:21:34.010
  • you know.
  • 01:21:34.010 --> 01:21:35.050
  • Just very loving.
  • 01:21:35.050 --> 01:21:36.040
  • His message, it was the truth,
  • 01:21:36.040 --> 01:21:37.120
  • it was the gospel.
  • 01:21:37.120 --> 01:21:38.130
  • It was repentance of sin,
  • 01:21:38.130 --> 01:21:39.160
  • it was trusting your soul
  • 01:21:39.160 --> 01:21:40.200
  • to Jesus Christ,
  • 01:21:40.200 --> 01:21:41.240
  • and yet there was a--
  • 01:21:41.240 --> 01:21:43.220
  • contextually, like, he was
  • 01:21:43.220 --> 01:21:45.080
  • able to wrap it in love and care
  • 01:21:45.080 --> 01:21:47.110
  • and compassion in a way that it
  • 01:21:47.110 --> 01:21:49.120
  • was really well received.
  • 01:21:49.120 --> 01:21:50.290
  • And I think that's what
  • 01:21:50.290 --> 01:21:52.180
  • you're--I think if Christians
  • 01:21:52.180 --> 01:21:55.110
  • can understand what you're
  • 01:21:55.110 --> 01:21:56.140
  • saying that by speaking
  • 01:21:56.140 --> 01:21:58.080
  • the truth in love,
  • 01:21:58.080 --> 01:21:59.060
  • as the Scriptures say,
  • 01:21:59.060 --> 01:22:01.010
  • that's when truth is gonna
  • 01:22:01.010 --> 01:22:02.010
  • be best received.
  • 01:22:02.010 --> 01:22:03.250
  • And we also need to receive
  • 01:22:03.250 --> 01:22:04.250
  • God's love in that same way.
  • 01:22:04.250 --> 01:22:06.210
  • - Leif: Yeah, and I think that
  • 01:22:06.210 --> 01:22:07.200
  • one of the biggest thing is we
  • 01:22:07.200 --> 01:22:08.260
  • have to receive his love.
  • 01:22:08.260 --> 01:22:10.030
  • It's not something you can do.
  • 01:22:10.030 --> 01:22:11.190
  • And that's why I believe
  • 01:22:11.190 --> 01:22:12.210
  • that this baptism of love
  • 01:22:12.210 --> 01:22:14.240
  • inviting for us to love.
  • 01:22:14.240 --> 01:22:17.040
  • John 17:26 has become
  • 01:22:17.040 --> 01:22:19.070
  • so important where Jesus
  • 01:22:19.070 --> 01:22:21.010
  • says this last prayer,
  • 01:22:21.010 --> 01:22:22.100
  • "Father, I have declared
  • 01:22:22.100 --> 01:22:23.190
  • your name among them
  • 01:22:23.190 --> 01:22:24.250
  • and I will declare it."
  • 01:22:24.250 --> 01:22:26.050
  • That the very love, Father,
  • 01:22:26.050 --> 01:22:27.100
  • that you have towards me,
  • 01:22:27.100 --> 01:22:28.240
  • this perfect love that
  • 01:22:28.240 --> 01:22:30.000
  • the Father has towards the Son,
  • 01:22:30.000 --> 01:22:31.290
  • to give his only begotten Son.
  • 01:22:31.290 --> 01:22:33.260
  • That love is gonna be
  • 01:22:33.260 --> 01:22:34.280
  • in each one of us.
  • 01:22:34.280 --> 01:22:36.050
  • And that's how the world is
  • 01:22:36.050 --> 01:22:37.020
  • gonna see we're his disciples
  • 01:22:37.020 --> 01:22:38.080
  • because we have learned
  • 01:22:38.080 --> 01:22:39.130
  • how to love that way.
  • 01:22:39.130 --> 01:22:40.240
  • But to do that, we first have
  • 01:22:40.240 --> 01:22:41.260
  • to receive it.
  • 01:22:41.260 --> 01:22:42.280
  • Then we have to become it.
  • 01:22:42.280 --> 01:22:44.120
  • Then we can start
  • 01:22:44.120 --> 01:22:45.120
  • to release it and give it.
  • 01:22:45.120 --> 01:22:47.000
  • And that's why it's so important
  • 01:22:47.000 --> 01:22:48.020
  • also to learn to love ourself
  • 01:22:48.020 --> 01:22:49.150
  • the way that Papa God loves us.
  • 01:22:49.150 --> 01:22:51.000
  • - Bobby: Yeah,
  • 01:22:51.000 --> 01:22:51.290
  • that's a good word.
  • 01:22:51.290 --> 01:22:52.280
  • So it's like saying in order to
  • 01:22:52.280 --> 01:22:54.000
  • share your love with the world,
  • 01:22:54.000 --> 01:22:55.000
  • you have to, obviously,
  • 01:22:55.000 --> 01:22:56.040
  • receive God's love first.
  • 01:22:56.040 --> 01:22:57.020
  • You can't share
  • 01:22:57.020 --> 01:22:58.030
  • what you don't have.
  • 01:22:58.030 --> 01:22:59.020
  • It does seem like too often
  • 01:22:59.020 --> 01:22:59.290
  • the church and pastors
  • 01:22:59.290 --> 01:23:01.000
  • are basically preaching,
  • 01:23:01.000 --> 01:23:01.250
  • "Just try harder.
  • 01:23:01.250 --> 01:23:02.190
  • Just push harder.
  • 01:23:02.190 --> 01:23:03.150
  • Just pull yourself up by your
  • 01:23:03.150 --> 01:23:04.130
  • socks," and, in the end, it's so
  • 01:23:04.130 --> 01:23:05.280
  • much better when we can flourish
  • 01:23:05.280 --> 01:23:07.080
  • from a place of really
  • 01:23:07.080 --> 01:23:08.120
  • abiding in God's love.
  • 01:23:08.120 --> 01:23:09.230
  • Well, it's a great word, Leif.
  • 01:23:09.230 --> 01:23:11.200
  • Leif Hetland, we're so glad
  • 01:23:11.200 --> 01:23:12.210
  • to have you here
  • 01:23:12.210 --> 01:23:13.230
  • on "Praise the Lord" tonight.
  • 01:23:13.230 --> 01:23:14.180
  • It's been such an honor
  • 01:23:14.180 --> 01:23:15.190
  • and what a great reminder
  • 01:23:15.190 --> 01:23:17.100
  • of the importance
  • 01:23:17.100 --> 01:23:18.120
  • of spiritual formation,
  • 01:23:18.120 --> 01:23:19.270
  • of completely living
  • 01:23:19.270 --> 01:23:21.020
  • in God's love, God's Words,
  • 01:23:21.020 --> 01:23:22.180
  • God's covenant and his promises
  • 01:23:22.180 --> 01:23:24.050
  • to us, his faithfulness.
  • 01:23:24.050 --> 01:23:25.110
  • It's a good word to us.
  • 01:23:25.110 --> 01:23:27.020
  • And I pray that everyone who's
  • 01:23:27.020 --> 01:23:28.030
  • watching tonight would receive
  • 01:23:28.030 --> 01:23:29.220
  • that same baptism of love that
  • 01:23:29.220 --> 01:23:31.240
  • you received and so many do.
  • 01:23:31.240 --> 01:23:33.130
  • So we're so grateful for you
  • 01:23:33.130 --> 01:23:34.220
  • being here tonight and God bless
  • 01:23:34.220 --> 01:23:35.260
  • you and your ministry.
  • 01:23:35.260 --> 01:23:36.250
  • Thank you again
  • 01:23:36.250 --> 01:23:37.260
  • for all you're doing.
  • 01:23:37.260 --> 01:23:39.020
  • - Leif: Thank you so much.
  • 01:23:39.020 --> 01:23:40.000
  • - Bobby: God bless you.
  • 01:23:40.000 --> 01:23:41.260
  • [audience applauding]
  • 01:23:42.160 --> 01:23:45.160
  • - Bobby: And you know,
  • 01:23:45.160 --> 01:23:46.160
  • that's just a great word
  • 01:23:46.160 --> 01:23:47.120
  • for you.
  • 01:23:47.120 --> 01:23:48.120
  • You know, so often as we are,
  • 01:23:48.120 --> 01:23:50.090
  • you know, as we're living our
  • 01:23:50.090 --> 01:23:51.120
  • lives and we wanna please God,
  • 01:23:51.120 --> 01:23:53.070
  • live lives that do good,
  • 01:23:53.070 --> 01:23:56.030
  • that hate what is evil,
  • 01:23:56.030 --> 01:23:57.070
  • it's so easy to fall into
  • 01:23:57.070 --> 01:23:59.000
  • the trap of shame,
  • 01:23:59.000 --> 01:24:01.000
  • too easy to fall and feel like,
  • 01:24:01.000 --> 01:24:02.160
  • you know, this addiction is--
  • 01:24:02.160 --> 01:24:03.210
  • I'm never gonna beat it.
  • 01:24:03.210 --> 01:24:05.090
  • I'm always gonna struggle with
  • 01:24:05.090 --> 01:24:07.070
  • my past, what my parents said
  • 01:24:07.220 --> 01:24:10.220
  • about me, my siblings said about
  • 01:24:10.220 --> 01:24:12.070
  • me, my kids said about me.
  • 01:24:12.070 --> 01:24:13.120
  • I can't ever abandon it.
  • 01:24:13.120 --> 01:24:14.150
  • Friends, I just want you to know
  • 01:24:14.150 --> 01:24:16.200
  • that if you're alive it's
  • 01:24:16.200 --> 01:24:17.290
  • because your life is in the hand
  • 01:24:17.290 --> 01:24:19.100
  • of God and he wants you alive.
  • 01:24:19.100 --> 01:24:21.150
  • And that if you trust your life
  • 01:24:21.150 --> 01:24:22.280
  • to Jesus Christ, if you repent
  • 01:24:22.280 --> 01:24:24.250
  • of your sin, that he will give
  • 01:24:24.250 --> 01:24:27.050
  • you everything you need to
  • 01:24:27.050 --> 01:24:29.180
  • follow him and to be like him.
  • 01:24:29.180 --> 01:24:31.270
  • Look, nobody's ever gonna
  • 01:24:31.270 --> 01:24:33.020
  • be perfect.
  • 01:24:33.020 --> 01:24:34.040
  • Everybody has their doubts.
  • 01:24:34.040 --> 01:24:35.140
  • Jesus doesn't say, "If you have
  • 01:24:35.140 --> 01:24:36.180
  • the faith of a mountain,
  • 01:24:36.180 --> 01:24:38.160
  • you can change the world."
  • 01:24:38.160 --> 01:24:39.180
  • In fact, he says,
  • 01:24:39.180 --> 01:24:40.170
  • "All you need is the faith
  • 01:24:40.170 --> 01:24:41.150
  • of a mustard seed."
  • 01:24:41.150 --> 01:24:42.160
  • So maybe you're watching
  • 01:24:42.160 --> 01:24:43.130
  • tonight and you say,
  • 01:24:43.130 --> 01:24:44.130
  • "I only believe about 5%.
  • 01:24:44.130 --> 01:24:45.290
  • I believe 1%."
  • 01:24:45.290 --> 01:24:47.200
  • If you trust that
  • 01:24:47.200 --> 01:24:48.130
  • to Jesus Christ, that's enough
  • 01:24:48.130 --> 01:24:50.190
  • to turn your life around.
  • 01:24:50.190 --> 01:24:51.280
  • So if you're watching tonight,
  • 01:24:51.280 --> 01:24:53.030
  • I want you to know God
  • 01:24:53.030 --> 01:24:54.190
  • has a future for you.
  • 01:24:54.190 --> 01:24:56.050
  • He believes in you.
  • 01:24:56.050 --> 01:24:57.140
  • He loves you and know always,
  • 01:24:57.140 --> 01:25:00.100
  • the rest of your life, that your
  • 01:25:00.100 --> 01:25:01.170
  • calling in Jesus Christ will--
  • 01:25:01.170 --> 01:25:03.210
  • it will never leave you
  • 01:25:03.210 --> 01:25:05.110
  • until the day you die.
  • 01:25:05.110 --> 01:25:06.240
  • And friends, I'm just calling on
  • 01:25:06.240 --> 01:25:08.030
  • you today to trust in him
  • 01:25:08.030 --> 01:25:09.240
  • and trust your life to him.
  • 01:25:09.240 --> 01:25:11.090
  • I'm Bobby Schuller
  • 01:25:11.090 --> 01:25:12.130
  • from Shepherd's Grove.
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  • loves you and so do we.
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  • throughout North America
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