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Matt & Laurie Crouch host Joel and Victoria Osteen from Los Angeles, CA

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March 20, 2019
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Matt & Laurie Crouch host Joel and Victoria Osteen from Los Angeles, CA

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  • - MATT CROUCH: "BEHIND THE
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  • SCENES" TODAY COMES TO YOU FROM
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  • A VERY, VERY, VERY SPECIAL
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  • LOCATION, RIGHT HERE IN
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  • JOEL AND VICTORIA OSTEEN.
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  • THIS IS KIND OF LIKE THE
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  • CECIL B. DEMILLE VERSION OF
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  • IT'S ALMOST LIKE WE SHOULD BE
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  • WELCOMING PEOPLE TO A VERY
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  • SPECIAL PRODUCTION.
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  • BECAUSE, YOU KNOW WHAT?
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  • IT IS.
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  • - LAURIE CROUCH: YEAH.
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  • - MATT: AND, WHAT WE'RE DOING
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  • TODAY IS REALLY TELLING YOU,
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  • THE TBN VIEWERS, ABOUT, REALLY,
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  • AN AMAZING THING THAT JOEL AND
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  • VICTORIA OSTEEN--
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  • LOOK, YOU KNOW THEM -- THEY
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  • PASTOR LAKEWOOD.
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  • YOU KNOW THEM -- THEY'RE FROM
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  • HOUSTON.
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  • YOU KNOW JOEL'S JOKES.
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  • [LAUGHTER]
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  • UH, DO YOU HAVE A JOKE YOU
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  • COULD DO, JUST REAL QUICK?
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  • [LAUGHTER]
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  • - JOEL OSTEEN: I DON'T HAVE
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  • ANY GOOD ONES, MATT.
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  • - MATT: YOU DON'T HAVE ANY
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  • GOOD ONES?
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  • OKAY.
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  • - LAURIE: SAVE THOSE FOR THE--
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  • [LAUGHTER]
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  • - VICTORIA OSTEEN: YOU GOTTA
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  • SAVE ALL HIS JOKES.
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  • [LAUGHTER]
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  • - MATT: SO, ULTIMATELY, WE
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  • KNOW ABOUT NIGHTS OF HOPE,
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  • AND DODGER STADIUM,
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  • YANKEE STADIUM
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  • AND ALL THAT.
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  • WHAT WE DON'T REALLY KNOW IS
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  • WHY LAURIE AND I ARE SITTING
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  • HERE WITH YOU GUYS IN FRONT OF
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  • THE HISTORY CHANNEL LOGO AND
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  • "JESUS: HIS LIFE."
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  • SO, LET'S START THE STORY
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  • THERE.
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  • WHAT ARE WE DOIN'?
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  • WHAT ARE WE TALKIN' ABOUT
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  • - JOEL: WELL, MATT, IT'S VERY
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  • EXCITING.
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  • THE HISTORY CHANNEL APPROACHED
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  • US AS THEY WERE PUTTING
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  • TOGETHER AN EIGHT-HOUR SERIES
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  • ON THE LIFE THAT JESUS TOLD
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  • THEY APPROACHED US ABOUT BEING
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  • A PART, BEING AN EXECUTIVE
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  • AND, YOU KNOW, IT WAS VERY
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  • EXCITING TO ME BECAUSE WE'RE
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  • ALWAYS LOOKING FOR NEW WAYS TO
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  • GET THE MESSAGE OF CHRIST OUT
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  • ALL OVER THE WORLD.
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  • AND, UH, I JUST THINK IT'S A
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  • GREAT DAY THAT WE'RE LIVING IN
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  • WHERE OTHER COMPANIES LIKE
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  • HISTORY CAN PARTNER WITH TBN,
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  • PARTNER WITH US TO TAKE THAT
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  • MESSAGE OF HOPE AND THE LIFE OF
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  • CHRIST OUT TO PEOPLE THAT
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  • PROBABLY WON'T BE WATCHING--
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  • MAYBE SOME OF THEM MIGHT NOT
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  • WATCH TBN, EVER.
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  • THEY MAY NOT WATCH A TV
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  • PREACHER LIKE MYSELF.
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  • BUT THEY WILL WATCH SOMETHING
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  • THAT'S INTRIGUING ON THE LIFE
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  • IT TALKS A LOT ABOUT THE
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  • HISTORY AND JUST, UH...
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  • YOU UNDERSTAND A LOT MORE ABOUT
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  • JESUS' LIFE AND THE TIMES THAT
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  • THEY WERE LIVING IN AT THAT
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  • TIME.
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  • - LAURIE: SO, IT'S TELLING THE
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  • STORY THROUGH THE EYES OF MARY,
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  • - MATT: PILATE.
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  • - LAURIE: WHO ELSE?
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  • - MATT: PETER, JOHN, MARY
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  • MAGDALENE...
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  • - LAURIE: CAIAPHAS.
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  • - MATT: ...AND CAIAPHAS.
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  • - JOEL: YEAH.
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  • IT'S REALLY--
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  • - VICTORIA: WHICH IS ANOTHER
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  • TWIST...
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  • - LAURIE: SURE.
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  • - VICTORIA: ...YOU KNOW, WHICH
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  • IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT.
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  • WE'VE SEEN JESUS.
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  • WE'VE SEEN HIS STORY.
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  • BUT TO ACTUALLY EXPERIENCE
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  • THROUGH THE PEOPLE WHO WALKED
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  • WITH HIM, THE WOMAN WHO BIRTHED
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  • HIM...
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  • - LAURIE: YEAH.
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  • - VICTORIA: THAT WHOLE, YOU
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  • KNOW, IS SUCH AN AMAZING CON--
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  • CONCEPT, THAT WHOLE IDEA OF
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  • BEHIND THE SCENES.
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  • - JOEL: WHAT I LOVE ABOUT IT,
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  • TOO -- IT'S A LOT OF THE
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  • A LOT OF TIMES-- YOU KNOW, I
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  • GREW UP IN CHURCH, SO I KNOW
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  • THE STORY, BUT TELL ME ABOUT
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  • THE TIMES...
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  • - LAURIE: YEAH.
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  • - JOEL: ...WHAT WAS MEANINGFUL
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  • TO THEM BACK THEN AND WHAT,
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  • I DON'T KNOW, JUST VERY--
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  • A LOT OF HISTORIC FACTS THAT
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  • PUT YOU IN THAT-- IN THAT,
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  • - LAURIE: SCENE, RIGHT THERE.
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  • - JOEL: ...SCENE, RIGHT THERE.
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  • - LAURIE: YEAH.
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  • YES?
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  • - MATT: JUST RECENTLY,
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  • LAURIE AND I OPENED A BOX THAT
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  • HAD BEEN PACKED FOR A LONG,
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  • LONG TIME, AND, OPENED UP THIS
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  • BOX AND PULLED OUT A BOOK.
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  • IT WAS A 850-PAGE BOOK.
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  • IT'S CALLED "THE BOOK OF GOD,"
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  • WRITTEN BY WALTER WANGERIN.
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  • SO, HE WROTE THIS BOOK AND
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  • NOVELIZED THE ENTIRE BIBLE.
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  • AND WHAT'S SO INTERESTING ABOUT
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  • THAT IS WHAT YOU JUST DESCRIBED
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  • TO US AND WHAT VICTORIA JUST
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  • EXPLAINED, THAT THIS IS
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  • REALLY THE STORY OF JESUS TOLD
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  • MARY, CAIAPHAS, JUDAS, PILATE,
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  • PETER, JOHN THE BAPTIST, MARY
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  • MAGDALENE, IS THE SAME WAY
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  • THAT THAT BOOK IS WRITTEN.
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  • SO, PETER WANGERIN DID THIS
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  • AND HE STARTED TELLING THE
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  • NOVELIZED STORY OF THE BIBLE.
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  • WE'VE JUST READ THAT BOOK,
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  • TOGETHER, AND WE'RE KIND OF
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  • GOING THROUGH IT, AGAIN.
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  • LET ME JUST TELL YOU
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  • SOMETHIN' --
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  • IT STICKS INSIDE OF YOU.
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  • WHEN YOU HEAR THE BIBLE TOLD AS
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  • AND YOU GET IT CHRONOLOGICAL,
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  • AND YOU GET IT THROUGH THE
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  • EYES OF OTHER PEOPLE --
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  • LITERALLY, I CAN REMEMBER
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  • IT IN AN AMAZING WAY.
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  • - LAURIE: AND NOW, WE CAN SEE
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  • IT ONSCREEN...
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  • [MATT LAUGHS]
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  • ...WHICH IS JUST AMAZING.
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  • - MATT: SO, THIS IS KIND OF
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  • WHAT YOU'VE DONE.
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  • YOU KNOW, A PICTURE'S WORTH A
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  • THOUSAND WORDS.
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  • UH, LET'S GO TO A TRAILER.
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  • IF YOU JUST TUNED IN,
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  • WE'RE RIGHT HERE WITH
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  • VICTORIA AND JOEL OSTEEN.
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  • THIS AMAZING SET IS KIND OF SET
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  • UP FOR SCREENING FILMS.
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  • [LAURIE LAUGHS]
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  • GOOD JOB ON THAT, JOEL.
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  • AND SO, WHAT WE'VE GOT --
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  • HISTORY CHANNEL IS PARTNERING
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  • WITH JOEL OSTEEN.
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  • HE'S AN EXECUTIVE PRODUCER.
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  • THIS IS THE TRAILER.
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  • - ANGEL: MARY, THE CHILD THAT
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  • YOU BEAR WILL BE CALLED THE SON
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  • - JOSEPH: YOU EXPECT ME TO
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  • BELIEVE THIS?
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  • - MARY: JOSEPH, IT IS GOD'S
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  • WILL.
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  • - MALE ANNOUNCER: FROM
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  • EXECUTIVE PRODUCER
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  • JOEL OSTEEN...
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  • - MALE VOICE: WE ARE HIS
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  • FOLLOWERS.
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  • WE'VE SEEN HIM DO WONDROUS
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  • THINGS.
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  • - MALE ANNOUNCER: ...AN EPIC
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  • - MALE, DARK SHIRT: NO ONE WHO
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  • WANTS TO BE FAMOUS ACTS IN
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  • SECRET.
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  • - JESUS: MY TIME HAS NOT YET
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  • - MALE ANNOUNCER: ...THE LIFE
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  • [WATER SPLASHING LIGHTLY]
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  • - MALE VOICE: THERE HAS BEEN
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  • TALK ABOUT JESUS.
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  • - MALE ANNOUNCER: ...FROM THE
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  • - MALE VOICE: HIS PREACHING IS
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  • WHAT CONCERNS ME.
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  • - FEMALE VOICE: HE'S HELPING
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  • - MALE ANNOUNCER: ...MARY,
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  • JOSEPH, PETER, JOHN THE
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  • BAPTIST, MARY MAGDALENE,
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  • PONTIUS PILATE, CAIAPHAS, AND,
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  • [POUNDING SOUNDS]
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  • - JESUS: I AM THE RESURRECTION
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  • - MALE ANNOUNCER: "JESUS: HIS
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  • LIFE."
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  • MONDAY, MARCH 25TH AT 8:00 ON
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  • - LAURIE: IT'S AMAZING.
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  • [LAURIE LAUGHS]
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  • - MATT: CAN YOU IMAGINE?
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  • THE HISTORY CHANNEL LOGO
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  • DISSOLVES INTO THE NAME OF
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  • JESUS.
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  • - LAURIE: YEAH.
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  • - MATT: AND, UH, THERE HAS TO
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  • BE A STORY.
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  • KIND OF...TELL US: HOW DID THIS
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  • ALL COME ABOUT?
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  • KIND OF GO WAY BACK.
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  • - JOEL: YEAH, IT IS
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  • INTERESTING, MATT, HOW GOD
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  • CONNECTS THE DOTS.
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  • WELL, WAY BACK PROBABLY IN 2003
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  • OR 2004, WE WORKED WITH A GROUP
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  • -- IT WAS FOX OR 20TH CENTURY
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  • FOX.
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  • WE TALKED ABOUT DOIN' A DAILY
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  • SHOW, BACK THEN.
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  • WE REALIZED WE COULDN'T DO IT.
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  • BUT WE MET SOME FANTASTIC
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  • PEOPLE.
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  • ONE OF THE PRODUCERS WAS A
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  • YOUNG MAN, JUST A GOOD MAN
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  • NAMED PAUL.
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  • WELL, THAT PROJECT DIDN'T WORK
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  • OUT, BUT, FAST FORWARD 13-- 12,
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  • 13 YEARS LATER, WELL, THESE
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  • PEOPLE WE WORKED WITH BACK THEN
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  • ARE NOW RUNNING THESE BIG
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  • NETWORKS.
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  • - MATT: WOW.
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  • - LAURIE: AMAZING.
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  • - JOEL: AND SO, THAT'S WHERE
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  • THE CONNECTION CAME FROM, FROM
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  • WAY BACK, 13 YEARS BEFORE.
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  • SO, THEY CONTACTED US ABOUT:
  • 00:06:04.190 --> 00:06:05.260
  • HEY, WE COULDN'T DO THAT OTHER,
  • 00:06:05.260 --> 00:06:07.110
  • BUT HOW 'BOUT WE BE A PART OF
  • 00:06:07.110 --> 00:06:08.120
  • THIS TOGETHER?
  • 00:06:08.120 --> 00:06:10.040
  • AND SO, IT'S REALLY A TESTIMONY
  • 00:06:10.040 --> 00:06:11.270
  • TO-- NOTHING HAPPENS BY
  • 00:06:11.270 --> 00:06:14.250
  • ACCIDENT IN LIFE.
  • 00:06:14.250 --> 00:06:15.270
  • EVEN THOUGH THAT INITIAL PROJECT
  • 00:06:15.270 --> 00:06:17.270
  • BACK IN 2003 OR 2004 DIDN'T
  • 00:06:17.270 --> 00:06:20.090
  • WORK OUT, WELL, WE DIDN'T
  • 00:06:20.090 --> 00:06:21.220
  • KNOW WHERE EVERYBODY
  • 00:06:21.220 --> 00:06:22.090
  • WOULD END UP.
  • 00:06:22.090 --> 00:06:23.120
  • - VICTORIA: YEAH.
  • 00:06:23.120 --> 00:06:24.020
  • - JOEL: AND, HERE WE ARE, AND
  • 00:06:24.020 --> 00:06:24.280
  • HE'S CALLIN' US ABOUT BEING A
  • 00:06:24.280 --> 00:06:26.000
  • PART OF SOMETHING REALLY BIG --
  • 00:06:26.000 --> 00:06:26.220
  • REALLY, TO GET OUTSIDE THE
  • 00:06:26.220 --> 00:06:28.240
  • CHURCH WORLD --
  • 00:06:28.240 --> 00:06:30.040
  • AND I MEAN THAT RESPECTFULLY --
  • 00:06:30.040 --> 00:06:31.230
  • BUT, TO GO WHERE,
  • 00:06:31.230 --> 00:06:32.210
  • AS I SAID EARLIER, THAT
  • 00:06:32.210 --> 00:06:33.200
  • MAYBE OUR MINISTRIES COULD NOT
  • 00:06:33.200 --> 00:06:35.000
  • GO, BUT OTHER PEOPLE WILL SEE.
  • 00:06:35.000 --> 00:06:36.170
  • AND, MAYBE, YOU KNOW, YOU JUST
  • 00:06:36.170 --> 00:06:38.180
  • PLANT THAT SEED OF FAITH IN
  • 00:06:38.180 --> 00:06:39.220
  • PEOPLE'S HEART OF: THIS IS WHAT
  • 00:06:39.220 --> 00:06:40.140
  • JESUS WAS ABOUT.
  • 00:06:40.140 --> 00:06:41.140
  • THE SERIES IS NOT PREACHIN' TO
  • 00:06:41.140 --> 00:06:42.180
  • - LAURIE: RIGHT.
  • 00:06:44.200 --> 00:06:45.060
  • - JOEL: YOU KNOW, IT'S TELLING
  • 00:06:45.060 --> 00:06:46.130
  • THE STORY OF JESUS IN A
  • 00:06:46.130 --> 00:06:47.110
  • FACTUAL, HISTORIC WAY.
  • 00:06:47.110 --> 00:06:49.160
  • BUT IT'S VERY COMPELLING.
  • 00:06:49.160 --> 00:06:50.120
  • - MATT: THIS PROJECT REMINDS
  • 00:06:50.120 --> 00:06:52.070
  • ME OF THE SCRIPTURE THAT WAS
  • 00:06:52.070 --> 00:06:53.280
  • REALLY THE FOUNDATIONAL
  • 00:06:53.280 --> 00:06:55.060
  • SCRIPTURE FOR TBN.
  • 00:06:55.060 --> 00:06:57.100
  • IT WAS ON OUR LETTERHEAD LOGO.
  • 00:06:57.100 --> 00:06:59.160
  • YOU KNOW, IT WAS DOWN ON THE
  • 00:06:59.160 --> 00:07:00.210
  • BOTTOM OF OUR LETTERHEAD, BACK
  • 00:07:00.210 --> 00:07:01.130
  • IN THE DAY.
  • 00:07:01.130 --> 00:07:02.020
  • AND IT WAS JUST SIMPLY: "AND I,
  • 00:07:02.020 --> 00:07:04.200
  • IF I BE LIFTED UP, WILL DRAW
  • 00:07:04.200 --> 00:07:06.080
  • SO, YOU KNOW, THE IDEA THAT YOU
  • 00:07:07.230 --> 00:07:08.150
  • ARE GOING OUTSIDE THE FOUR
  • 00:07:08.150 --> 00:07:11.100
  • WALLS OF THE CHURCH -- FIRST OF
  • 00:07:11.100 --> 00:07:12.090
  • ALL, GREAT JOB.
  • 00:07:12.090 --> 00:07:14.190
  • - LAURIE: AMEN.
  • 00:07:14.190 --> 00:07:15.220
  • - MATT: AND THOSE ARE BIG
  • 00:07:15.220 --> 00:07:16.110
  • WALLS TO GO OUTSIDE OF.
  • 00:07:16.110 --> 00:07:17.120
  • YOU HAVE A BIG CHURCH DOWN IN
  • 00:07:17.120 --> 00:07:18.160
  • HOUSTON.
  • 00:07:18.160 --> 00:07:19.210
  • GOING OUTSIDE OF THAT IS
  • 00:07:19.210 --> 00:07:20.290
  • SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW,
  • 00:07:20.290 --> 00:07:22.260
  • RELATES TO LAURIE AND I.
  • 00:07:22.260 --> 00:07:24.060
  • YOU KNOW, WE FELT THAT VERY
  • 00:07:24.060 --> 00:07:26.030
  • STRONGLY BACK IN THE MID- AND
  • 00:07:26.030 --> 00:07:28.240
  • LATE 80s, WHEN I WAS INVOLVED
  • 00:07:28.240 --> 00:07:31.110
  • IN A FILM, WAY BACK IN
  • 00:07:31.110 --> 00:07:32.290
  • 1989 CALLED "CHINA CRY."
  • 00:07:32.290 --> 00:07:34.100
  • [MOVIE SCORE PLAYS]
  • 00:07:34.100 --> 00:07:36.060
  • IT WENT INTO THEATERS AND THERE
  • 00:07:36.060 --> 00:07:38.050
  • WAS JUST THIS BURNING DESIRE
  • 00:07:38.050 --> 00:07:39.010
  • FOR LAURIE AND I TO--
  • 00:07:39.010 --> 00:07:40.270
  • WE ENDED UP MOVING
  • 00:07:40.270 --> 00:07:41.150
  • TO HOLLYWOOD.
  • 00:07:41.150 --> 00:07:42.190
  • AND THEN, WE MORTGAGED THE DOG,
  • 00:07:42.230 --> 00:07:45.230
  • THE CAT, THE HOUSE,
  • 00:07:45.230 --> 00:07:46.280
  • THE BUSINESS -- EVERYTHING --
  • 00:07:46.280 --> 00:07:48.080
  • FOR A MOVIE CALLED
  • 00:07:48.080 --> 00:07:49.010
  • "THE OMEGA CODE."
  • 00:07:49.010 --> 00:07:50.000
  • AND, THAT WAS BECAUSE WE WERE
  • 00:07:50.000 --> 00:07:52.200
  • AND, NOW, TO THINK THAT, YOU
  • 00:07:55.250 --> 00:07:56.280
  • KNOW, SOME OF THOSE PIONEERING
  • 00:07:56.280 --> 00:07:59.170
  • EFFORTS OF TRYING TO GET "A"
  • 00:07:59.170 --> 00:08:02.130
  • STORY TOLD, YOU KNOW, NOW, YOU
  • 00:08:02.130 --> 00:08:04.060
  • HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE HISTORY
  • 00:08:04.080 --> 00:08:07.080
  • CHANNEL SPENDING THEIR
  • 00:08:07.080 --> 00:08:09.000
  • RESOURCES, APPROACHING YOU.
  • 00:08:09.000 --> 00:08:11.050
  • AND, YOU KNOW--
  • 00:08:11.140 --> 00:08:14.140
  • - LAURIE: AMAZING.
  • 00:08:14.140 --> 00:08:15.140
  • [LAUGHS]
  • 00:08:15.140 --> 00:08:16.070
  • - MATT: YOU KNOW, THIS IS--
  • 00:08:16.070 --> 00:08:16.280
  • THIS IS EXCITING STUFF
  • 00:08:16.280 --> 00:08:18.010
  • FOR US.
  • 00:08:18.010 --> 00:08:19.210
  • I'M SUPER EXCITED ABOUT IT.
  • 00:08:19.210 --> 00:08:20.110
  • AND, HISTORY CHANNEL HAS A
  • 00:08:20.110 --> 00:08:21.050
  • LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY --
  • 00:08:21.050 --> 00:08:23.210
  • NO PUN INTENDED --
  • 00:08:23.210 --> 00:08:24.110
  • IN DOING THIS.
  • 00:08:24.110 --> 00:08:26.100
  • MARK AND ROMA -- MARK BURNETT
  • 00:08:26.100 --> 00:08:28.180
  • AND ROMA DOWNEY -- SAT IN
  • 00:08:28.180 --> 00:08:29.260
  • CHAIRS LIKE THIS SEVERAL YEARS
  • 00:08:29.260 --> 00:08:32.100
  • AGO WHEN THEY HAD CREATED A
  • 00:08:32.100 --> 00:08:33.210
  • SERIES CALLED "THE BIBLE" AND
  • 00:08:33.210 --> 00:08:34.170
  • WANTED THE TBN AUDIENCE TO KNOW
  • 00:08:34.170 --> 00:08:37.040
  • ABOUT THAT.
  • 00:08:37.040 --> 00:08:38.240
  • WE WERE SUPER HAPPY TO HELP
  • 00:08:38.240 --> 00:08:40.150
  • THEM.
  • 00:08:40.150 --> 00:08:41.050
  • WE'RE SUPER HAPPY TO HELP YOU.
  • 00:08:41.050 --> 00:08:43.130
  • AND WHAT WE'RE TELLING YOU
  • 00:08:43.130 --> 00:08:45.160
  • ABOUT IS A BRAND-NEW
  • 00:08:45.160 --> 00:08:46.050
  • CALLED "JESUS: HIS LIFE."
  • 00:08:49.150 --> 00:08:52.150
  • - LAURIE: AND I LOVE THE
  • 00:08:52.150 --> 00:08:53.050
  • TIMING OF IT.
  • 00:08:53.050 --> 00:08:53.200
  • - MATT: OKAY.
  • 00:08:53.200 --> 00:08:54.160
  • - LAURIE: IT'S RIGHT BEFORE--
  • 00:08:54.160 --> 00:08:56.010
  • RIGHT BEFORE EASTER, STARTING
  • 00:08:56.010 --> 00:08:56.220
  • ON MARCH 25TH OF THIS YEAR.
  • 00:08:56.220 --> 00:08:59.060
  • - JOEL: IT'S THE FOUR WEEKS
  • 00:08:59.060 --> 00:09:01.100
  • BEFORE EASTER,
  • 00:09:01.100 --> 00:09:01.260
  • IT LEADS UP TO EASTER.
  • 00:09:01.260 --> 00:09:03.240
  • AND, PLUS, THERE'S A WORKBOOK
  • 00:09:03.240 --> 00:09:04.150
  • THAT IS CALLED A WORKBOOK,
  • 00:09:04.150 --> 00:09:06.120
  • WHERE PASTORS CAN USE IT
  • 00:09:06.120 --> 00:09:07.110
  • TO TEACH OUT OF, AS WELL?
  • 00:09:07.110 --> 00:09:08.220
  • SO, IT'S ANOTHER TOOL FOR THE
  • 00:09:08.220 --> 00:09:10.010
  • CHURCH TO USE.
  • 00:09:10.010 --> 00:09:10.170
  • AND IT'S JUST A...YOU KNOW,
  • 00:09:10.240 --> 00:09:13.240
  • WE'RE THINKING ABOUT THE
  • 00:09:13.240 --> 00:09:14.210
  • RESURRECTION AND WHAT TOOK
  • 00:09:14.210 --> 00:09:16.020
  • PLACE THERE.
  • 00:09:16.020 --> 00:09:16.160
  • SO, I THINK IT'S A GREAT THING
  • 00:09:16.160 --> 00:09:17.250
  • THAT THE HISTORY CHANNEL'S
  • 00:09:17.250 --> 00:09:19.130
  • DOING TO SPEND THEIR RESOURCES
  • 00:09:19.130 --> 00:09:20.200
  • AND TIME AND EFFORT TO--
  • 00:09:20.200 --> 00:09:21.270
  • - VICTORIA: REACH PEOPLE.
  • 00:09:24.030 --> 00:09:24.220
  • - JOEL: --YOU KNOW, WHAT'S
  • 00:09:24.220 --> 00:09:25.120
  • CLOSE TO US.
  • 00:09:25.120 --> 00:09:25.240
  • - LAURIE: YEAH.
  • 00:09:25.240 --> 00:09:26.080
  • - VICTORIA: YOU KNOW, WE'RE
  • 00:09:26.080 --> 00:09:26.280
  • REACHING PEOPLE, LIKE YOU SAID.
  • 00:09:26.280 --> 00:09:27.200
  • WE'RE GOING OUTSIDE THE CHURCH
  • 00:09:27.200 --> 00:09:28.110
  • AND...EVERY TIME THAT I SEE A
  • 00:09:28.110 --> 00:09:29.260
  • FILM ABOUT JESUS OR A BIBLICAL
  • 00:09:30.270 --> 00:09:33.270
  • STORY, IT'S AMAZING HOW THE
  • 00:09:33.270 --> 00:09:34.220
  • HOLY SPIRIT CAN TALK TO YOU IN
  • 00:09:34.220 --> 00:09:35.130
  • A NEW WAY.
  • 00:09:35.130 --> 00:09:38.030
  • - MATT: SURE.
  • 00:09:38.030 --> 00:09:38.220
  • - VICTORIA: DEPENDS ON WHERE
  • 00:09:38.220 --> 00:09:39.130
  • YOU ARE IN YOUR TIME PERIOD
  • 00:09:39.130 --> 00:09:41.240
  • OF LIFE OR WHAT'S GOING ON
  • 00:09:41.240 --> 00:09:42.140
  • IN YOUR LIFE.
  • 00:09:42.140 --> 00:09:43.130
  • BUT THAT'S THE BEAUTY IS IT MAY
  • 00:09:43.130 --> 00:09:44.050
  • BE GOING OUT ON A SECULAR
  • 00:09:44.050 --> 00:09:45.050
  • STATION, BUT THE HOLY SPIRIT IS
  • 00:09:45.050 --> 00:09:46.130
  • WORKING.
  • 00:09:46.130 --> 00:09:47.140
  • - MATT: ABSOLUTELY.
  • 00:09:47.140 --> 00:09:48.000
  • - VICTORIA: AND THAT'S WHAT'S
  • 00:09:48.000 --> 00:09:48.210
  • SO EXCITING.
  • 00:09:48.210 --> 00:09:49.060
  • AND I-I-- I WATCH THIS AND I AM
  • 00:09:49.060 --> 00:09:50.110
  • SO ENLIGHTENED.
  • 00:09:50.110 --> 00:09:52.040
  • I SEE THINGS FROM A DIFFERENT
  • 00:09:52.040 --> 00:09:53.130
  • SO, IT'S NOT JUST ANOTHER JESUS
  • 00:09:55.190 --> 00:09:56.260
  • FILM.
  • 00:09:56.260 --> 00:09:58.070
  • [SERIES AUDIBLE IN BACKGROUND]
  • 00:09:58.070 --> 00:09:59.000
  • YOU KNOW, YOU CANNOT WATCH
  • 00:09:59.000 --> 00:09:59.230
  • JESUS' LIFE ENOUGH.
  • 00:09:59.230 --> 00:10:00.260
  • WE CAN'T KNOW TOO MUCH ABOUT
  • 00:10:00.260 --> 00:10:02.020
  • HIM, BECAUSE GOD'S ALWAYS
  • 00:10:02.020 --> 00:10:03.080
  • WANTIN' TO REVEAL HIMSELF IN
  • 00:10:03.080 --> 00:10:03.280
  • NEW AND AMAZING WAYS.
  • 00:10:03.280 --> 00:10:05.290
  • SO, I JUST BELIEVE THAT EVEN
  • 00:10:05.290 --> 00:10:07.280
  • THE BELIEVERS WHO WATCH THIS
  • 00:10:07.280 --> 00:10:09.050
  • WHO SAY, "WELL, I'VE SEEN THESE
  • 00:10:09.050 --> 00:10:10.220
  • FILMS BEFORE,"
  • 00:10:10.220 --> 00:10:11.160
  • GOD IS GONNA REVEAL SOMETHING
  • 00:10:11.160 --> 00:10:13.100
  • SPECIAL AND AMAZING TO THEM,
  • 00:10:13.100 --> 00:10:15.250
  • EVEN FOR THEIR OWN LIFE
  • 00:10:15.250 --> 00:10:16.290
  • AND EVEN THROUGH THE LIFE
  • 00:10:16.290 --> 00:10:19.210
  • OF JESUS, WHAT THEY HAVEN'T
  • 00:10:19.210 --> 00:10:21.080
  • EXPERIENCED BEFORE ABOUT THIS
  • 00:10:21.080 --> 00:10:21.290
  • LIFE.
  • 00:10:21.290 --> 00:10:23.160
  • SO, IT'S EXCITING.
  • 00:10:23.160 --> 00:10:24.050
  • IT'S EXCITING WHAT GOD IS DOING
  • 00:10:24.050 --> 00:10:25.180
  • IN THESE TIMES.
  • 00:10:25.180 --> 00:10:26.190
  • - LAURIE: YEAH.
  • 00:10:26.190 --> 00:10:27.240
  • - MATT: THIS IS SOMETHING THAT
  • 00:10:27.240 --> 00:10:29.090
  • LAURIE AND I HAVE SPENT A GOOD
  • 00:10:29.090 --> 00:10:30.180
  • PART OF OUR LIFE TALKING ABOUT,
  • 00:10:30.180 --> 00:10:32.050
  • THIS SUBJECT IN GENERAL, WHICH
  • 00:10:32.050 --> 00:10:33.290
  • IS, YOU KNOW, ULTIMATELY WHAT
  • 00:10:33.290 --> 00:10:36.120
  • WE WANNA DO IS ENCOURAGE
  • 00:10:37.140 --> 00:10:40.140
  • VIEWERS OF TBN TO NOT WATCH
  • 00:10:40.140 --> 00:10:41.040
  • - LAURIE: THAT'S TOUGH.
  • 00:10:45.220 --> 00:10:46.100
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:10:46.100 --> 00:10:46.220
  • - MATT: ...OR ENLACE,
  • 00:10:46.220 --> 00:10:47.120
  • OR, YOU KNOW...I COULD GO ON.
  • 00:10:47.120 --> 00:10:48.030
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:10:48.030 --> 00:10:48.170
  • THERE'S A WHOLE BUNCH OF
  • 00:10:48.170 --> 00:10:49.140
  • NETWORKS THERE, BUT-- BUT, WHAT
  • 00:10:49.140 --> 00:10:50.230
  • WE WANT YOU TO DO IS WE WANT
  • 00:10:50.230 --> 00:10:52.040
  • YOU TO SUPPORT WHAT THE HISTORY
  • 00:10:52.040 --> 00:10:52.260
  • CHANNEL HAS DONE.
  • 00:10:52.260 --> 00:10:55.030
  • - LAURIE: YES.
  • 00:10:55.030 --> 00:10:56.070
  • - MATT: WHEN YOU DO AND THE
  • 00:10:56.070 --> 00:10:56.270
  • RATING IS HIGH -- OKAY? -- THEN
  • 00:10:56.270 --> 00:10:59.040
  • THEY WILL REINVEST THOSE--
  • 00:10:59.040 --> 00:11:01.200
  • - LAURIE: AND DO MORE.
  • 00:11:01.200 --> 00:11:02.160
  • - MATT: -- RESOURCES INTO
  • 00:11:02.160 --> 00:11:04.000
  • MORE PRODUCTIONS.
  • 00:11:04.000 --> 00:11:06.020
  • AND JOEL WILL GET MORE PHONE
  • 00:11:06.020 --> 00:11:07.010
  • CALLS, AND OTHER PEOPLE WILL
  • 00:11:07.010 --> 00:11:08.100
  • GET MORE PHONE CALLS, BECAUSE,
  • 00:11:08.100 --> 00:11:09.140
  • THEY WILL KNOW THERE'S A
  • 00:11:09.140 --> 00:11:10.030
  • SO, I SPENT HALF MY LIFE
  • 00:11:12.160 --> 00:11:13.110
  • TALKING ABOUT: WHY DO YOU MAKE
  • 00:11:13.110 --> 00:11:14.110
  • MOVIES?
  • 00:11:14.110 --> 00:11:17.080
  • WHY DO YOU TELL STORIES?
  • 00:11:17.080 --> 00:11:18.090
  • YOU KNOW, IN THE MESSAGE BIBLE,
  • 00:11:18.090 --> 00:11:19.140
  • MATTHEW 13, IT SAYS: WHY DO
  • 00:11:19.140 --> 00:11:22.090
  • YOU TELL STORIES?
  • 00:11:22.090 --> 00:11:24.090
  • TO CREATE READINESS.
  • 00:11:24.090 --> 00:11:26.000
  • - LAURIE: MMH.
  • 00:11:26.000 --> 00:11:26.160
  • - MATT: TO NUDGE PEOPLE TOWARD
  • 00:11:26.160 --> 00:11:28.020
  • RECEPTIVE INSIGHT OF THE
  • 00:11:28.020 --> 00:11:28.210
  • KINGDOM OF GOD.
  • 00:11:28.210 --> 00:11:29.160
  • THAT'S WHAT THE MESSAGE BIBLE
  • 00:11:29.160 --> 00:11:31.220
  • SAYS.
  • 00:11:31.220 --> 00:11:32.270
  • SO, WHAT BETTER PLACE TO DO
  • 00:11:32.270 --> 00:11:34.110
  • THAT, TO NUDGE PEOPLE TOWARDS
  • 00:11:34.190 --> 00:11:37.190
  • THE RECEPTIVE INSIGHT OF THE
  • 00:11:37.190 --> 00:11:38.090
  • KINGDOM OF GOD THAN ON A
  • 00:11:38.090 --> 00:11:38.280
  • SECULAR TELEVISION CHANNEL.
  • 00:11:38.280 --> 00:11:39.290
  • - JOEL: YEAH.
  • 00:11:39.290 --> 00:11:40.130
  • - MATT: OKAY?
  • 00:11:40.130 --> 00:11:40.270
  • SO, SOME PEOPLE THAT WON'T
  • 00:11:40.270 --> 00:11:43.120
  • WATCH TBN, THEY WATCH HISTORY
  • 00:11:43.120 --> 00:11:45.100
  • CHANNEL ALL THE TIME.
  • 00:11:45.100 --> 00:11:46.020
  • AND, ON MARCH 25TH, WE WANT YOU
  • 00:11:46.020 --> 00:11:47.220
  • TO SEE MORE OF THIS.
  • 00:11:47.220 --> 00:11:48.090
  • THIS IS A TRAILER -- SHOW YOU A
  • 00:11:48.180 --> 00:11:51.180
  • LITTLE BIT MORE OF WHAT WE'RE
  • 00:11:51.180 --> 00:11:52.170
  • TALKING ABOUT.
  • 00:11:52.170 --> 00:11:54.040
  • "JESUS: HIS LIFE."
  • 00:11:54.040 --> 00:11:55.070
  • [WATER SPLASHING]
  • 00:12:02.020 --> 00:12:04.190
  • - MALE VOICE: THE STORY OF
  • 00:12:04.190 --> 00:12:06.070
  • JESUS IS THE GREATEST STORY
  • 00:12:06.070 --> 00:12:06.270
  • EVER TOLD.
  • 00:12:06.270 --> 00:12:07.120
  • [GROWL]
  • 00:12:07.120 --> 00:12:08.060
  • IT HELPED SHAPE WESTERN
  • 00:12:08.060 --> 00:12:09.070
  • CULTURE.
  • 00:12:09.070 --> 00:12:10.020
  • [SHOUTS OF CROWD]
  • 00:12:10.020 --> 00:12:11.050
  • - MALE ANNOUNCER: TEACHER.
  • 00:12:11.050 --> 00:12:11.290
  • LEADER.
  • 00:12:11.290 --> 00:12:12.190
  • SAVIOR.
  • 00:12:12.230 --> 00:12:15.230
  • - JESUS: LAZARUS, COME OUT.
  • 00:12:15.230 --> 00:12:16.140
  • [DRAMATIC THEME PLAYS]
  • 00:12:16.140 --> 00:12:19.140
  • I AM THE RESURRECTION AND THE
  • 00:12:19.140 --> 00:12:20.110
  • LIFE.
  • 00:12:20.110 --> 00:12:22.050
  • [CLOP OF HOOVES]
  • 00:12:22.050 --> 00:12:23.250
  • - MALE ANNOUNCER: ONE OF THE
  • 00:12:23.250 --> 00:12:24.250
  • MOST INFLUENTIAL FIGURES IN
  • 00:12:24.250 --> 00:12:25.210
  • HISTORY...
  • 00:12:25.210 --> 00:12:27.280
  • - MALE VOICE: JESUS SAYS: THE
  • 00:12:27.280 --> 00:12:29.020
  • CURRENT WORLD IS WRONG AND WE
  • 00:12:29.020 --> 00:12:30.230
  • NEED TO CHANGE IT -- NOW.
  • 00:12:30.230 --> 00:12:32.250
  • [CRASHING, CLATTER]
  • 00:12:32.250 --> 00:12:34.060
  • - JESUS: GET OUT!
  • 00:12:34.060 --> 00:12:34.210
  • YOU SINNER!
  • 00:12:34.210 --> 00:12:35.130
  • - SOLDIER: WHERE IS HE?
  • 00:12:35.130 --> 00:12:36.060
  • [EXCITED CHATTER]
  • 00:12:36.060 --> 00:12:37.080
  • - FEMALE ON CAMERA: JESUS WAS
  • 00:12:37.080 --> 00:12:38.110
  • POTENTIALLY A THREAT TO THE
  • 00:12:38.110 --> 00:12:39.260
  • ROMAN EMPIRE.
  • 00:12:39.260 --> 00:12:41.040
  • - MALE ANNOUNCER: FOR OVER
  • 00:12:41.040 --> 00:12:42.040
  • 2,OOO YEARS, THE STORY OF JESUS
  • 00:12:42.040 --> 00:12:43.100
  • CHRIST HAS TOUCHED THE LIVES OF
  • 00:12:43.100 --> 00:12:45.260
  • BILLIONS AROUND THE GLOBE.
  • 00:12:45.260 --> 00:12:47.230
  • [STRIKING SOUND OF WHIP]
  • 00:12:47.230 --> 00:12:49.220
  • [JESUS CRIES OUT]
  • 00:12:49.220 --> 00:12:51.120
  • - JOEL: JESUS FELT WHAT WE
  • 00:12:51.120 --> 00:12:52.110
  • FELT.
  • 00:12:52.110 --> 00:12:52.270
  • HE FACED WHAT WE FACE TODAY.
  • 00:12:52.270 --> 00:12:54.150
  • [DRAMATIC MUSIC]
  • 00:12:55.000 --> 00:12:58.000
  • - MALE ANNOUNCER: THOUGH MUCH
  • 00:12:58.000 --> 00:13:00.020
  • IS KNOWN ABOUT JESUS AND THE
  • 00:13:00.020 --> 00:13:02.010
  • AGE IN WHICH HE LIVED, HE
  • 00:13:02.010 --> 00:13:02.200
  • CONTINUES TO INSPIRE NEW
  • 00:13:02.200 --> 00:13:03.120
  • INSIGHTS TODAY.
  • 00:13:03.190 --> 00:13:06.190
  • [CREAK OF ROPES, SOUND OF WIND]
  • 00:13:06.190 --> 00:13:08.030
  • - MALE VOICE: IF WE WANT TO
  • 00:13:08.030 --> 00:13:08.280
  • UNDERSTAND WESTERN HISTORY AT
  • 00:13:08.280 --> 00:13:09.190
  • ALL, WE MUST UNDERSTAND THE
  • 00:13:09.190 --> 00:13:12.050
  • STORY OF JESUS.
  • 00:13:12.050 --> 00:13:13.190
  • - MALE ANNOUNCER: NOW, FOR THE
  • 00:13:13.190 --> 00:13:15.180
  • FIRST TIME, HIS STORY IS TOLD
  • 00:13:15.180 --> 00:13:17.270
  • THROUGH THE EYES OF THOSE WHO
  • 00:13:17.270 --> 00:13:19.070
  • [DRAMATIC MUSIC]
  • 00:13:30.220 --> 00:13:33.220
  • [DRAMATIC MUSIC]
  • 00:13:33.220 --> 00:13:35.280
  • "JESUS: HIS LIFE."
  • 00:13:45.190 --> 00:13:46.040
  • MONDAY, MARCH 25TH AT 8:00...
  • 00:13:46.040 --> 00:13:47.130
  • "JESUS: HIS LIFE."
  • 00:13:54.070 --> 00:13:55.240
  • WE GIVE YOU FULL PERMISSION ON
  • 00:13:55.240 --> 00:13:56.150
  • MARCH 25TH TO TUNE OVER.
  • 00:13:57.060 --> 00:14:00.080
  • IT MAKES SUCH A DIFFERENCE TO
  • 00:14:00.210 --> 00:14:03.210
  • THE PEOPLE AT HISTORY CHANNEL
  • 00:14:03.210 --> 00:14:04.220
  • AND HOW THEY ALLOCATED
  • 00:14:04.220 --> 00:14:06.020
  • FUTURE RESOURCES.
  • 00:14:06.020 --> 00:14:08.010
  • WE CAN HELP GUIDE SOME OF THOSE
  • 00:14:08.010 --> 00:14:09.240
  • RESOURCES WHEN YOU TUNE IN.
  • 00:14:10.170 --> 00:14:13.170
  • MARCH 25TH, 8/7 CENTRAL BE
  • 00:14:13.170 --> 00:14:16.090
  • TUNED INTO "JESUS: HIS LIFE."
  • 00:14:17.100 --> 00:14:20.100
  • SOMETHING YOU TALKED ABOUT,
  • 00:14:20.100 --> 00:14:22.020
  • FIRST OF ALL, IS YOU'RE
  • 00:14:22.020 --> 00:14:23.180
  • CONNECTED TO PRODUCTION.
  • 00:14:23.180 --> 00:14:24.190
  • SO, IF YOU GO PRIOR TO 1999,
  • 00:14:25.050 --> 00:14:28.050
  • WHEN YOU BECAME A SENIOR PASTOR
  • 00:14:28.050 --> 00:14:30.190
  • OF LAKEWOOD CHURCH, TELL A
  • 00:14:30.190 --> 00:14:32.090
  • LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT YOU USED
  • 00:14:32.090 --> 00:14:33.200
  • TO DO.
  • 00:14:33.200 --> 00:14:34.030
  • BECAUSE SOME OF THIS, THE
  • 00:14:34.030 --> 00:14:35.060
  • PRODUCTION SIDE, GETS KIND OF
  • 00:14:35.060 --> 00:14:36.100
  • EXCITING, TOO.
  • 00:14:36.100 --> 00:14:36.240
  • THIS-- THIS PRODUCTION WAS
  • 00:14:36.240 --> 00:14:37.270
  • FILMED IN MOROCCO.
  • 00:14:37.270 --> 00:14:39.200
  • I'VE BEEN TO THAT PART OF THE
  • 00:14:39.200 --> 00:14:41.030
  • WORLD WHERE A LOT OF SETS ARE
  • 00:14:41.030 --> 00:14:43.150
  • ALREADY THERE AND PREPARED.
  • 00:14:43.150 --> 00:14:45.170
  • AND IT'S A VERY GOOD PLACE TO
  • 00:14:45.170 --> 00:14:46.080
  • SHOOT.
  • 00:14:46.080 --> 00:14:48.130
  • THERE'S JUST A TON OF THINGS
  • 00:14:48.130 --> 00:14:49.270
  • THAT ARE ALREADY PREPARED
  • 00:14:49.270 --> 00:14:51.060
  • AND WE SHOT SOME OF "ONE NIGHT
  • 00:14:52.070 --> 00:14:53.140
  • WITH THE KING" THERE.
  • 00:14:53.140 --> 00:14:54.010
  • UH, BEEN THERE A COUPLE OF
  • 00:14:54.010 --> 00:14:55.140
  • OCCASIONS.
  • 00:14:55.250 --> 00:14:58.250
  • AND SO YOU HAVE SOME
  • 00:14:58.250 --> 00:14:59.110
  • PRODUCTION IN YOUR BACKGROUND.
  • 00:14:59.110 --> 00:15:00.040
  • - JOEL: YEAH, I DO, MATT.
  • 00:15:00.040 --> 00:15:00.250
  • LIKE YOURSELF, I SPENT 17 YEARS
  • 00:15:00.250 --> 00:15:03.170
  • BEFORE I WAS A PASTOR
  • 00:15:03.170 --> 00:15:04.240
  • WORKING FOR MY FATHER,
  • 00:15:04.240 --> 00:15:06.240
  • DOING THE PRODUCTION,
  • 00:15:06.240 --> 00:15:07.110
  • THE LIGHTING,
  • 00:15:07.110 --> 00:15:07.280
  • THE CAMERAS, THE EDITING AND
  • 00:15:07.280 --> 00:15:08.210
  • ALL THAT.
  • 00:15:08.210 --> 00:15:10.090
  • AND, SO THAT ALWAYS INTRIGUES
  • 00:15:10.090 --> 00:15:11.070
  • ME.
  • 00:15:11.070 --> 00:15:12.270
  • AND I'VE ALWAYS BEEN A
  • 00:15:12.270 --> 00:15:14.260
  • BELIEVER IN -- EVEN BACK WITH
  • 00:15:14.260 --> 00:15:16.150
  • MY DAD -- ABOUT HOW YOU'RE
  • 00:15:16.150 --> 00:15:18.240
  • GONNA REACH THE CULTURE IS
  • 00:15:18.240 --> 00:15:19.130
  • THROUGH THE MEDIA.
  • 00:15:19.130 --> 00:15:21.050
  • WE USED TO WALK THROUGH OUR
  • 00:15:21.050 --> 00:15:22.070
  • NEIGHBORHOODS, AND, SOMETIMES,
  • 00:15:22.070 --> 00:15:23.200
  • AT NIGHT, YOU CAN SEE ALL
  • 00:15:23.200 --> 00:15:24.190
  • THE TELEVISIONS ON.
  • 00:15:24.190 --> 00:15:26.160
  • AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, GOING
  • 00:15:26.160 --> 00:15:27.240
  • INTO SOMEBODY'S LIVING ROOM,
  • 00:15:27.240 --> 00:15:28.180
  • THEY'RE NOT DEFENSIVE.
  • 00:15:28.180 --> 00:15:29.250
  • THEY DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE
  • 00:15:29.250 --> 00:15:31.110
  • WATCHING A MINISTER OR
  • 00:15:31.110 --> 00:15:32.210
  • WATCHING A JESUS SERIES.
  • 00:15:32.210 --> 00:15:33.150
  • I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THEY LET
  • 00:15:33.150 --> 00:15:34.270
  • THEIR DEFENSES DOWN.
  • 00:15:34.270 --> 00:15:35.260
  • AND SO, I DON'T KNOW -- I CAME
  • 00:15:35.260 --> 00:15:37.030
  • FROM THAT PRODUCTION BACKGROUND
  • 00:15:37.030 --> 00:15:38.090
  • AND IT'S JUST ALWAYS BEEN IN MY
  • 00:15:38.090 --> 00:15:39.230
  • BLOOD ABOUT, YOU KNOW: HOW CAN
  • 00:15:39.230 --> 00:15:41.050
  • WE BE MORE EFFECTIVE WITH THE
  • 00:15:41.050 --> 00:15:42.170
  • INFLUENCE GOD'S GIVEN US?
  • 00:15:42.170 --> 00:15:44.050
  • AND, SOMETIMES, THE BEST WAYS
  • 00:15:44.230 --> 00:15:47.230
  • OR "A" WAY IS TO PARTNER OTHER
  • 00:15:47.230 --> 00:15:48.150
  • PEOPLE THAT HAVE GREAT
  • 00:15:48.150 --> 00:15:49.020
  • INFLUENCE.
  • 00:15:49.020 --> 00:15:50.010
  • WE PARTNER WITH TBN.
  • 00:15:50.010 --> 00:15:50.180
  • WE PARTNER WITH HISTORY CHANNEL.
  • 00:15:50.180 --> 00:15:52.060
  • AND, GOD'S OPENING SOME OF
  • 00:15:52.060 --> 00:15:54.070
  • THESE DOORS FOR US TO-- TO WALK
  • 00:15:54.070 --> 00:15:55.130
  • THROUGH, TO AFFECT THE CULTURE
  • 00:15:55.130 --> 00:15:56.260
  • IN A NEW WAY.
  • 00:15:56.260 --> 00:15:57.270
  • AND, I LOVE WHAT YOU'RE SAYIN'
  • 00:15:57.270 --> 00:15:59.050
  • WHEN WE SUPPORT THIS, WHEN WE
  • 00:16:01.090 --> 00:16:02.050
  • TELL OUR FRIENDS ABOUT IT TO
  • 00:16:02.050 --> 00:16:03.210
  • WATCH -- WELL, IT JUST ALLOWS
  • 00:16:03.210 --> 00:16:04.260
  • THEM TO, LIKE YOU SAID,
  • 00:16:04.260 --> 00:16:07.010
  • ALLOCATE MORE RESOURCES TO IT.
  • 00:16:07.010 --> 00:16:07.220
  • AND THAT'S WHAT OUR GOAL IS --
  • 00:16:08.130 --> 00:16:11.130
  • TO-- AGAIN, TO AFFECT THE
  • 00:16:11.130 --> 00:16:12.020
  • CULTURE.
  • 00:16:12.020 --> 00:16:13.080
  • BUT, WE GOTTA GET SOME EYEBALLS
  • 00:16:13.080 --> 00:16:14.120
  • THERE AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE
  • 00:16:14.120 --> 00:16:15.020
  • DOING.
  • 00:16:15.020 --> 00:16:15.260
  • - VICTORIA: I'M EXCITED
  • 00:16:15.260 --> 00:16:16.150
  • BECAUSE THE HISTORY CHANNEL
  • 00:16:16.150 --> 00:16:18.180
  • IS VERY EXCITED AND THE
  • 00:16:18.180 --> 00:16:19.060
  • PRODUCERS OF THIS ARE ALREADY
  • 00:16:19.060 --> 00:16:20.230
  • THROWIN' AROUND DIFFERENT
  • 00:16:20.230 --> 00:16:21.230
  • OTHER IDEAS,
  • 00:16:21.230 --> 00:16:24.170
  • DIFFERENT IDEAS,
  • 00:16:24.170 --> 00:16:25.070
  • EXCITING IDEAS,
  • 00:16:25.070 --> 00:16:26.060
  • IDEAS THAT ARE NOT JUST,
  • 00:16:26.060 --> 00:16:27.150
  • YOU KNOW-- JUST--
  • 00:16:27.150 --> 00:16:29.060
  • YOU'VE SEEN A LOT.
  • 00:16:29.060 --> 00:16:30.170
  • YOU KNOW, THE MIGHTY MEN OF
  • 00:16:30.170 --> 00:16:31.240
  • DAVID, HIS ARMY -- JUST A LOT
  • 00:16:31.240 --> 00:16:33.170
  • OF THINGS TO MAKE THE BIBLE
  • 00:16:33.170 --> 00:16:34.070
  • COME ALIVE.
  • 00:16:34.070 --> 00:16:35.170
  • AND THAT'S WHAT WE WANT: WE
  • 00:16:35.170 --> 00:16:36.280
  • WANT TO AFFECT THOSE PEOPLE IN
  • 00:16:36.280 --> 00:16:39.010
  • - LAURIE: YES.
  • 00:16:41.030 --> 00:16:41.200
  • - VICTORIA: BECAUSE THEY HOLD
  • 00:16:41.200 --> 00:16:42.110
  • THE TICKET.
  • 00:16:42.110 --> 00:16:43.130
  • AND SO, LIKE YOU SAID, IF
  • 00:16:43.130 --> 00:16:44.020
  • THERE'S DEMAND FOR IT, WE KNOW
  • 00:16:44.020 --> 00:16:44.290
  • THAT THEY'RE GONNA PRODUCE WHAT
  • 00:16:44.290 --> 00:16:46.130
  • THERE'S DEMAND FOR.
  • 00:16:46.130 --> 00:16:46.290
  • SO, I'M EXCITED ABOUT THEM EVEN
  • 00:16:46.290 --> 00:16:49.190
  • GOING OUTSIDE THE BOX, WANTIN'
  • 00:16:49.190 --> 00:16:51.010
  • TO EXPLORE THE BIBLE IN REALLY
  • 00:16:51.010 --> 00:16:52.220
  • CONTEMPORARY AND UNUSUAL WAYS.
  • 00:16:52.220 --> 00:16:55.150
  • SO, IT CAN BE VERY EXCITING.
  • 00:16:55.150 --> 00:16:57.050
  • - MATT: OKAY.
  • 00:16:57.050 --> 00:16:58.210
  • TELL US ABOUT THE FIRST PHONE
  • 00:16:58.210 --> 00:16:59.260
  • CALL.
  • 00:16:59.260 --> 00:17:02.170
  • HOW DID YOU HEAR THAT THEY
  • 00:17:02.170 --> 00:17:03.060
  • WANTED YOU A PART OF THIS
  • 00:17:03.060 --> 00:17:04.000
  • PROJECT?
  • 00:17:04.000 --> 00:17:04.170
  • - JOEL: YEAH, IT WAS MY
  • 00:17:04.170 --> 00:17:05.190
  • BROTHER-IN-LAW DON, VICTORIA'S
  • 00:17:05.190 --> 00:17:07.030
  • BROTHER.
  • 00:17:07.030 --> 00:17:07.160
  • HE WORKS WITH US THERE AND
  • 00:17:07.160 --> 00:17:08.270
  • HEADS UP ALL THAT AREA.
  • 00:17:08.270 --> 00:17:09.280
  • SO, HE JUST CALLED AND SAID,
  • 00:17:09.280 --> 00:17:10.240
  • "JOEL, WE GOT A CALL FROM
  • 00:17:10.240 --> 00:17:12.170
  • AN OLD FRIEND WHO'S NOW
  • 00:17:12.170 --> 00:17:13.260
  • RUNNING THE NETWORKS OVER
  • 00:17:13.260 --> 00:17:16.180
  • THERE AND SAID THEY'RE DOING
  • 00:17:16.180 --> 00:17:18.070
  • A SERIES ON JESUS AND HIS LIFE
  • 00:17:18.070 --> 00:17:20.000
  • AND THEY WANT US TO BE A PART
  • 00:17:20.000 --> 00:17:21.110
  • OF IT, WANTED US TO BE AN
  • 00:17:21.110 --> 00:17:22.000
  • EXECUTIVE PRODUCER OF IT."
  • 00:17:23.040 --> 00:17:26.040
  • SO, IT JUST RANG TRUE WITH ME.
  • 00:17:26.040 --> 00:17:26.250
  • WE WEREN'T ON THE PHONE CALL
  • 00:17:26.250 --> 00:17:28.070
  • FOR FIVE MINUTES AND I SAID,
  • 00:17:28.070 --> 00:17:29.160
  • "GUYS, WE'RE IN, UNLESS
  • 00:17:29.160 --> 00:17:30.280
  • THERE'S SOMETHING I'M MISSING,"
  • 00:17:30.280 --> 00:17:31.200
  • BECAUSE, THESE ARE
  • 00:17:31.200 --> 00:17:32.260
  • OPPORTUNITIES THAT YOU PRAY
  • 00:17:32.260 --> 00:17:33.160
  • FOR.
  • 00:17:33.160 --> 00:17:35.000
  • - LAURIE: YES.
  • 00:17:35.000 --> 00:17:36.010
  • - JOEL: GOD, OPEN THE RIGHT
  • 00:17:36.010 --> 00:17:36.250
  • DOORS, BRING THE RIGHT PEOPLE.
  • 00:17:36.250 --> 00:17:37.160
  • - LAURIE: YEAH.
  • 00:17:37.160 --> 00:17:38.040
  • - JOEL: AND, I FEEL HONORED
  • 00:17:38.040 --> 00:17:39.050
  • THAT THEY'D COME TO US.
  • 00:17:39.050 --> 00:17:40.080
  • IT'S-- IT'S THE, YOU KNOW, THE
  • 00:17:40.080 --> 00:17:41.230
  • INFLUENCE THAT GOD'S GIVEN US.
  • 00:17:41.230 --> 00:17:42.230
  • AND I GIVE THE CREDIT BACK TO
  • 00:17:42.230 --> 00:17:44.060
  • HIM, BUT, NO, IT'S JUST,
  • 00:17:44.060 --> 00:17:45.140
  • UM...IT'S JUST ONE OF THOSE
  • 00:17:45.140 --> 00:17:46.180
  • PHONE CALLS THAT YOU LIKE
  • 00:17:46.180 --> 00:17:47.070
  • GETTING.
  • 00:17:47.070 --> 00:17:48.250
  • AND, UH, YOU KNOW, LIKE
  • 00:17:48.250 --> 00:17:50.080
  • VICTORIA SAID, I BELIEVE THIS
  • 00:17:50.080 --> 00:17:51.090
  • WILL BE A LONG-TERM THING, UH,
  • 00:17:51.090 --> 00:17:52.230
  • WORKING WITH THEM, WORKING WITH
  • 00:17:52.230 --> 00:17:54.150
  • YOU GUYS, OF HOW WE CAN, UH,
  • 00:17:54.150 --> 00:17:55.290
  • YOU KNOW, MAKE PRODUCTIONS THAT
  • 00:17:55.290 --> 00:17:58.180
  • ARE RELEVANT THAT GET OUTSIDE
  • 00:17:58.180 --> 00:18:00.290
  • JUST JOEL IN A-- IN A PULPIT.
  • 00:18:00.290 --> 00:18:02.240
  • THAT'S GONNA REACH A CERTAIN
  • 00:18:02.240 --> 00:18:03.140
  • GROUP.
  • 00:18:03.140 --> 00:18:03.230
  • - MATT: SURE.
  • 00:18:03.230 --> 00:18:04.060
  • - JOEL: BUT THERE'S ANOTHER
  • 00:18:04.060 --> 00:18:05.000
  • GROUP THAT CAN BE REACHED.
  • 00:18:05.000 --> 00:18:05.200
  • AND, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU SAID
  • 00:18:05.200 --> 00:18:08.070
  • IT -- WHEN YOU LIFT UP JESUS,
  • 00:18:08.070 --> 00:18:08.280
  • HE DRAWS PEOPLE.
  • 00:18:08.280 --> 00:18:09.250
  • - LAURIE: YES.
  • 00:18:09.250 --> 00:18:10.110
  • - JOEL: SOMETIMES WE THINK WE
  • 00:18:10.110 --> 00:18:11.110
  • GOTTA DO ALL THE WORK.
  • 00:18:11.110 --> 00:18:11.290
  • WE GOTTA DRAW 'EM, WE GOTTA
  • 00:18:11.290 --> 00:18:14.030
  • CONVICT 'EM.
  • 00:18:14.030 --> 00:18:14.280
  • BUT YOU KNOW WHAT?
  • 00:18:14.280 --> 00:18:16.110
  • WE JUST LIFT 'EM UP.
  • 00:18:16.110 --> 00:18:16.280
  • LET'S TELL THE STORY, LET'S
  • 00:18:16.280 --> 00:18:18.190
  • PLANT THE SEED, AND GOD KNOWS
  • 00:18:18.190 --> 00:18:19.100
  • HOW TO USE THAT.
  • 00:18:19.100 --> 00:18:19.260
  • - VICTORIA: YOU KNOW, PEOPLE
  • 00:18:19.260 --> 00:18:21.270
  • LOVE THE HISTORY.
  • 00:18:21.270 --> 00:18:22.120
  • THE HISTORY'S FASCINATING.
  • 00:18:22.120 --> 00:18:23.010
  • AND LIKE THE ONE, UH,
  • 00:18:23.010 --> 00:18:24.070
  • THEOLOGIAN SAID, WE HAVE TO
  • 00:18:24.070 --> 00:18:25.010
  • UNDERSTAND THE TIME.
  • 00:18:25.010 --> 00:18:25.180
  • - MATT: YEAH.
  • 00:18:25.180 --> 00:18:26.150
  • - VICTORIA: AND SO, I THINK
  • 00:18:26.150 --> 00:18:27.220
  • THAT THAT IN ITSELF DRAWS EVEN
  • 00:18:27.220 --> 00:18:29.060
  • AN UNBELIEVER IN.
  • 00:18:29.060 --> 00:18:31.090
  • - LAURIE: MMH.
  • 00:18:31.090 --> 00:18:32.110
  • - VICTORIA: BECAUSE THEY WANNA
  • 00:18:32.110 --> 00:18:33.030
  • UNDERSTAND THE TIME.
  • 00:18:33.030 --> 00:18:34.040
  • I MEAN, IF YOU'RE GONNA WATCH
  • 00:18:34.040 --> 00:18:34.250
  • THE HISTORY CHANNEL, YOU'RE
  • 00:18:34.250 --> 00:18:35.150
  • THERE TO LEARN.
  • 00:18:35.150 --> 00:18:36.050
  • AND IT'S INTERESTING THAT
  • 00:18:36.050 --> 00:18:37.060
  • SOMETIMES YOU CAN-- YOU CAN
  • 00:18:37.060 --> 00:18:38.190
  • START OFF ONE WAY, YOU'RE GONNA
  • 00:18:38.190 --> 00:18:40.220
  • LEARN ABOUT SOMETHING, AND YOU
  • 00:18:40.220 --> 00:18:41.260
  • CAN END UP A TOTALLY DIFFERENT
  • 00:18:41.260 --> 00:18:43.210
  • WAY.
  • 00:18:43.210 --> 00:18:44.060
  • - LAURIE: YEAH.
  • 00:18:44.060 --> 00:18:44.230
  • - VICTORIA: YOU CAN END UP
  • 00:18:44.230 --> 00:18:45.150
  • BELIEVING.
  • 00:18:45.150 --> 00:18:47.170
  • AND SO, I THINK THAT'S WHAT'S
  • 00:18:47.170 --> 00:18:48.080
  • SO EXCITING IS THAT WE ARE
  • 00:18:48.080 --> 00:18:49.190
  • THROWING THAT WIDE NET OUT
  • 00:18:49.190 --> 00:18:51.290
  • THERE TO JUST CATCH--
  • 00:18:51.290 --> 00:18:53.070
  • - LAURIE: HUNGRY TO KNOW MORE.
  • 00:18:53.070 --> 00:18:54.010
  • - VICTORIA: YEAH.
  • 00:18:54.010 --> 00:18:55.000
  • [LAURIE LAUGHS]
  • 00:18:55.160 --> 00:18:58.160
  • - JOEL: YEAH, THE ONE OF
  • 00:18:58.160 --> 00:18:59.110
  • JOSEPH I WATCHED RECENTLY.
  • 00:18:59.110 --> 00:19:00.170
  • AND IT'S INTERESTING SEEING IT
  • 00:19:00.170 --> 00:19:01.090
  • FROM HIS POINT OF VIEW, SOME
  • 00:19:01.090 --> 00:19:02.110
  • OF THE RIDICULE HE FACED.
  • 00:19:02.110 --> 00:19:04.160
  • AND THEY SHOWED HIM --
  • 00:19:04.160 --> 00:19:05.190
  • AND SOME OF IT'S
  • 00:19:05.190 --> 00:19:07.140
  • ARTISTIC LICENSE.
  • 00:19:07.140 --> 00:19:08.000
  • BUT THEY SHOWED HIM ANGRY WHEN
  • 00:19:08.000 --> 00:19:08.270
  • HE FOUND OUT THAT SHE
  • 00:19:08.270 --> 00:19:09.140
  • WAS PREGNANT.
  • 00:19:09.140 --> 00:19:10.090
  • - MATT: YEAH.
  • 00:19:10.090 --> 00:19:10.220
  • - JOEL: AND HIS WHOLE
  • 00:19:10.220 --> 00:19:11.190
  • LIVELIHOOD WAS RUINED AND HIS
  • 00:19:11.190 --> 00:19:12.100
  • REPUTATION.
  • 00:19:12.100 --> 00:19:13.150
  • AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S A
  • 00:19:13.150 --> 00:19:14.150
  • FASCINATING THING TO THINK, UH,
  • 00:19:14.150 --> 00:19:15.240
  • YOU KNOW, THESE PEOPLE --
  • 00:19:15.240 --> 00:19:17.070
  • THEY'RE-- THEY'RE HEROES OF
  • 00:19:17.070 --> 00:19:18.160
  • FAITH.
  • 00:19:18.160 --> 00:19:18.290
  • THEY WALKED IT OUT WHEN IT WAS
  • 00:19:18.290 --> 00:19:20.140
  • DIFFICULT.
  • 00:19:20.140 --> 00:19:21.000
  • - LAURIE: YEAH.
  • 00:19:21.000 --> 00:19:22.060
  • - MATT: YOU KNOW, I MENTIONED
  • 00:19:22.060 --> 00:19:23.210
  • EARLIER IN THIS-- AND WE'RE
  • 00:19:23.210 --> 00:19:24.110
  • GONNA TO A CLIP OF KINDA WHEN
  • 00:19:24.110 --> 00:19:25.190
  • THE MAGI SHOW UP IN BETHLEHEM.
  • 00:19:26.150 --> 00:19:29.150
  • BUT I WAS SITTIN' HERE THINKING
  • 00:19:29.150 --> 00:19:30.070
  • BECAUSE, WHAT YOU WERE TALKING
  • 00:19:31.250 --> 00:19:32.240
  • ABOUT, VICTORIA, HOW THIS
  • 00:19:32.240 --> 00:19:35.060
  • PRODUCTION, "JESUS: HIS LIFE,"
  • 00:19:35.060 --> 00:19:36.070
  • HISTORY CHANNEL, MARCH 25TH,
  • 00:19:36.070 --> 00:19:37.200
  • UH, IS TOLD THROUGH THE EYES OF
  • 00:19:37.200 --> 00:19:39.110
  • THOSE THAT WERE AROUND JESUS.
  • 00:19:39.110 --> 00:19:40.230
  • AND, THAT MEANS CONTEXT.
  • 00:19:40.230 --> 00:19:43.220
  • AND CONTEXT MEANS A LOT TO ME.
  • 00:19:43.220 --> 00:19:44.140
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:19:44.140 --> 00:19:46.120
  • AND WE WERE READING THIS
  • 00:19:46.120 --> 00:19:48.180
  • "THE BOOK OF GOD."
  • 00:19:48.180 --> 00:19:51.030
  • AND, YOU GO THROUGH "THE BOOK
  • 00:19:51.030 --> 00:19:52.150
  • OF GOD" AND IT SEEMS LIKE EACH
  • 00:19:52.150 --> 00:19:54.120
  • CHAPTER-ISH KINDA THING IS TOLD
  • 00:19:54.120 --> 00:19:55.210
  • FROM SOMEBODY ELSE'S
  • 00:19:55.210 --> 00:19:56.080
  • PERSPECTIVE.
  • 00:19:56.080 --> 00:19:57.190
  • IT'S VERY INTERESTINGLY SIMILAR
  • 00:19:57.190 --> 00:19:58.110
  • TO THIS PROJECT.
  • 00:19:58.180 --> 00:20:01.180
  • AND, WE WERE SITTING THERE AND
  • 00:20:01.180 --> 00:20:02.090
  • WE READ ABOUT THE LAST 150
  • 00:20:05.020 --> 00:20:08.020
  • PAGES OF THE BOOK IN CONTEXT,
  • 00:20:08.020 --> 00:20:09.110
  • WHICH WAS THE LAST PART OF
  • 00:20:09.110 --> 00:20:10.060
  • - LAURIE: YOU READ TO ME.
  • 00:20:13.290 --> 00:20:15.150
  • - MATT: AND, I WAS READING
  • 00:20:15.150 --> 00:20:17.030
  • IT TO YOU.
  • 00:20:17.030 --> 00:20:17.190
  • BUT, BASICALLY, WHAT THAT BOOK
  • 00:20:17.190 --> 00:20:18.150
  • DID VERY WELL IS IT CREATED
  • 00:20:18.150 --> 00:20:19.050
  • CONTEXT.
  • 00:20:19.050 --> 00:20:19.240
  • IT WAS TELLING YOU HOW JESUS
  • 00:20:19.240 --> 00:20:20.290
  • WAS FEELING, AS HE KNEW HE WAS
  • 00:20:20.290 --> 00:20:23.070
  • GETTING READY TO GO TO
  • 00:20:23.070 --> 00:20:24.100
  • JERUSALEM AND FACE THIS.
  • 00:20:24.100 --> 00:20:26.180
  • AND WHEN YOU START REALIZING
  • 00:20:26.180 --> 00:20:27.080
  • CONTEXT, ALL OF A SUDDEN,
  • 00:20:27.080 --> 00:20:29.010
  • THE EMOTION STARTED
  • 00:20:29.010 --> 00:20:31.140
  • KINDA WELLING UP IN US.
  • 00:20:31.140 --> 00:20:32.180
  • - LAURIE: MMH...
  • 00:20:32.180 --> 00:20:33.230
  • - MATT: I GOT TO THE POINT
  • 00:20:33.230 --> 00:20:35.030
  • IN THE LAST SUPPER SCENE
  • 00:20:35.030 --> 00:20:36.080
  • WHERE HE BROKE THE BREAD
  • 00:20:36.080 --> 00:20:37.100
  • AND JUST BURST INTO TEARS,
  • 00:20:37.100 --> 00:20:37.290
  • YOU KNOW?
  • 00:20:37.290 --> 00:20:38.260
  • I MEAN-- AND IT--
  • 00:20:38.260 --> 00:20:41.030
  • - LAURIE: WE JUST CRIED ALL
  • 00:20:41.030 --> 00:20:41.230
  • DAY.
  • 00:20:41.230 --> 00:20:42.150
  • [LAURIE LAUGHS]
  • 00:20:42.150 --> 00:20:43.110
  • - MATT: IT FELT LIKE WHAT WAS
  • 00:20:43.110 --> 00:20:44.020
  • HAPPENING--
  • 00:20:44.020 --> 00:20:44.220
  • - LAURIE: YEAH.
  • 00:20:44.220 --> 00:20:46.120
  • - MATT: --WAS WHEN YOU THINK
  • 00:20:46.120 --> 00:20:47.030
  • OF THE LIFE OF CHRIST AND YOU
  • 00:20:47.030 --> 00:20:48.170
  • GET CAUGHT UP INTO THE STORY OF
  • 00:20:48.170 --> 00:20:50.160
  • IT, YOU KNOW, SCIENTISTS TELL
  • 00:20:50.160 --> 00:20:52.150
  • US YOU USE YOUR BRAIN MORE WHEN
  • 00:20:52.150 --> 00:20:54.040
  • YOU'RE HEARING OR TELLING A
  • 00:20:54.040 --> 00:20:56.050
  • YOU CAN BE DOING CALCULUS, YOU
  • 00:20:59.280 --> 00:21:01.130
  • CAN BE DOING, UM...
  • 00:21:01.130 --> 00:21:02.200
  • OTHER KIND OF DIFFICULT
  • 00:21:02.200 --> 00:21:03.080
  • TASKS OF ENGINEERING
  • 00:21:03.080 --> 00:21:05.080
  • OR THIS OR THAT.
  • 00:21:05.080 --> 00:21:06.240
  • BUT WHEN YOU'RE TELLING OR
  • 00:21:06.240 --> 00:21:09.120
  • HEARING A STORY, YOUR BRAIN IS
  • 00:21:09.120 --> 00:21:10.210
  • MORE LIT UP THAN AT ANY TIME.
  • 00:21:10.210 --> 00:21:12.100
  • I THINK GOD KNEW THAT.
  • 00:21:12.100 --> 00:21:13.100
  • AND SO, STORY AND THE WAY THAT
  • 00:21:13.100 --> 00:21:15.170
  • YOU'RE TELLING THE LIFE, JESUS,
  • 00:21:15.170 --> 00:21:17.110
  • HIS LIFE, IS HISTORY CHANNEL'S--
  • 00:21:17.110 --> 00:21:19.110
  • JOEL OSTEEN, EXECUTIVE
  • 00:21:19.110 --> 00:21:21.040
  • PRODUCER.
  • 00:21:21.040 --> 00:21:22.130
  • THIS IS WHEN THE MAGI VISIT
  • 00:21:22.130 --> 00:21:23.280
  • JESUS AS HE'S A CHILD.
  • 00:21:23.280 --> 00:21:26.150
  • [JOSEPH MAKES PLAYFUL NOISES]
  • 00:21:34.000 --> 00:21:34.210
  • [MUSIC SCORE PLAYS]
  • 00:21:34.210 --> 00:21:35.070
  • - MALE VOICE: WE OFTEN SEE
  • 00:21:46.010 --> 00:21:46.210
  • CHRISTMAS CARDS OF THE THREE
  • 00:21:46.210 --> 00:21:47.260
  • MAGI STANDING OVER THE BABY
  • 00:21:47.260 --> 00:21:49.010
  • JESUS AT HIS BIRTH.
  • 00:21:49.010 --> 00:21:51.240
  • BUT THE FACT IS NOT ONLY DOES
  • 00:21:51.240 --> 00:21:53.260
  • MATTHEW NOT TELL US HOW MANY
  • 00:21:53.260 --> 00:21:55.150
  • THERE WERE, THE MAGI DON'T COME
  • 00:21:55.150 --> 00:21:57.050
  • TILL AFTER JESUS HAS BEEN BORN.
  • 00:21:57.200 --> 00:22:00.220
  • SO, IT COULD HAVE BEEN DAYS.
  • 00:22:00.220 --> 00:22:01.230
  • IT COULD HAVE BEEN WEEKS.
  • 00:22:01.230 --> 00:22:03.070
  • IT COULD HAVE BEEN MONTHS.
  • 00:22:03.070 --> 00:22:04.270
  • - MAGI, RIGHT: WE BROUGHT
  • 00:22:17.150 --> 00:22:18.050
  • GIFTS.
  • 00:22:18.050 --> 00:22:19.000
  • - JOSEPH: WE DON'T WANT YOUR
  • 00:22:19.000 --> 00:22:19.210
  • GIFTS.
  • 00:22:19.210 --> 00:22:20.130
  • - MAGI: PLEASE.
  • 00:22:21.000 --> 00:22:24.000
  • TAKE THEM.
  • 00:22:24.190 --> 00:22:27.190
  • - MARY: THANK YOU.
  • 00:22:27.190 --> 00:22:28.220
  • - MALE VOICE: THE GIFTS OF THE
  • 00:22:28.220 --> 00:22:30.010
  • MAGI --
  • 00:22:30.010 --> 00:22:31.080
  • GOLD, FRANKINCENSE, MYRRH --
  • 00:22:31.080 --> 00:22:33.250
  • ARE GIFTS SUITABLE FOR A
  • 00:22:33.250 --> 00:22:35.160
  • KING FROM BIRTH TO DEATH,
  • 00:22:35.160 --> 00:22:36.260
  • FROM WOMB TO TOMB.
  • 00:22:36.260 --> 00:22:38.140
  • FRANKINCENSE USED IN WORSHIP IS
  • 00:22:38.140 --> 00:22:41.110
  • A SYMBOL OF PRAYER ASCENDING TO
  • 00:22:41.110 --> 00:22:44.090
  • GOD; MYRRH USED AS AN ODOR
  • 00:22:44.090 --> 00:22:46.260
  • RETARDANT FOR THE BURIAL OF THE
  • 00:22:46.260 --> 00:22:47.260
  • KING.
  • 00:22:50.290 --> 00:22:53.290
  • GOLD -- WELL, WHAT KING DOESN'T
  • 00:22:53.290 --> 00:22:55.290
  • NEED RESOURCES?
  • 00:22:55.290 --> 00:22:58.200
  • [MUSIC CONTINUES]
  • 00:23:00.290 --> 00:23:03.290
  • - BISHOP MICHAEL CURRY: THE
  • 00:23:03.290 --> 00:23:04.260
  • DIVERSE AND DIFFERENT PEOPLES
  • 00:23:04.260 --> 00:23:05.170
  • OF THE EARTH COMING TO BEHOLD
  • 00:23:05.170 --> 00:23:07.180
  • THE MAGI ARE A WAY OF THE BIBLE
  • 00:23:10.050 --> 00:23:11.000
  • - LAURIE: OH, I LOVE THAT.
  • 00:23:16.010 --> 00:23:16.210
  • - MATT: MMH.
  • 00:23:16.210 --> 00:23:17.040
  • - VICTORIA: HUH.
  • 00:23:17.040 --> 00:23:17.190
  • SWEET.
  • 00:23:17.190 --> 00:23:18.100
  • - MATT: "JESUS: HIS LIFE" --
  • 00:23:18.100 --> 00:23:19.010
  • HISTORY CHANNEL, MARCH 25TH.
  • 00:23:19.010 --> 00:23:19.210
  • JOEL AND VICTORIA -- YOU KNOW,
  • 00:23:19.210 --> 00:23:21.260
  • PROUD OF YOU GUYS.
  • 00:23:21.260 --> 00:23:22.230
  • AMAZING.
  • 00:23:22.230 --> 00:23:23.220
  • [LAURIE LAUGHS]
  • 00:23:23.220 --> 00:23:25.230
  • AND TO THINK IT WAS KIND OF
  • 00:23:25.230 --> 00:23:26.130
  • A...A 13-YEAR-AGO CONTACT
  • 00:23:26.130 --> 00:23:28.060
  • THAT...
  • 00:23:28.060 --> 00:23:31.030
  • ....YOU KNOW, RECIRCLED BACK TO
  • 00:23:31.030 --> 00:23:33.000
  • YOU -- YOU KNOW, THAT KIND OF--
  • 00:23:33.000 --> 00:23:35.050
  • THAT PART OF IT PREACHES.
  • 00:23:35.050 --> 00:23:35.240
  • YOU KNOW, WHAT 13-YEAR-OLD
  • 00:23:35.240 --> 00:23:38.040
  • CONTACTS DO WE ALL HAVE THAT
  • 00:23:38.040 --> 00:23:39.110
  • MIGHT ONE DAY PLAY A VERY
  • 00:23:39.110 --> 00:23:41.240
  • IMPORTANT ROLE?
  • 00:23:41.240 --> 00:23:42.200
  • - JOEL: YEAH.
  • 00:23:42.200 --> 00:23:44.160
  • EVEN, YOU COULD SAY,
  • 00:23:44.160 --> 00:23:45.120
  • EVEN THE DISAPPOINTMENT 13
  • 00:23:45.120 --> 00:23:46.090
  • YEARS AGO--
  • 00:23:46.090 --> 00:23:46.220
  • - MATT: WOW.
  • 00:23:46.220 --> 00:23:47.150
  • - JOEL: --WAS REALLY GOD
  • 00:23:47.150 --> 00:23:48.040
  • SETTING YOU UP FOR SOMETHING
  • 00:23:48.040 --> 00:23:48.240
  • HE'S GONNA DO MUCH LATER.
  • 00:23:48.240 --> 00:23:49.220
  • SO, WHAT WE MAY SEE AS A CLOSED
  • 00:23:49.220 --> 00:23:51.070
  • DOOR, IT DIDN'T WORK OUT, YOU
  • 00:23:51.070 --> 00:23:52.040
  • GOD DOES EVERYTHING FOR A
  • 00:23:54.200 --> 00:23:55.090
  • REASON.
  • 00:23:55.090 --> 00:23:56.070
  • SOMETIMES WE DON'T SEE IT NOW.
  • 00:23:56.070 --> 00:23:57.030
  • MAYBE WE'LL SEE IT IN HEAVEN.
  • 00:23:57.030 --> 00:23:58.100
  • BUT, THERE ARE SOME THINGS YOU
  • 00:23:58.100 --> 00:23:59.260
  • SEE DOWN THE ROAD AND YOU
  • 00:23:59.260 --> 00:24:01.020
  • THINK: WOW, THERE WAS A
  • 00:24:01.020 --> 00:24:02.110
  • CONNECTION WE HAD WITH THIS
  • 00:24:02.110 --> 00:24:03.010
  • GROUP OF PEOPLE.
  • 00:24:03.010 --> 00:24:05.070
  • AND, IT JUST CIRCLED BACK
  • 00:24:05.070 --> 00:24:05.260
  • AROUND.
  • 00:24:05.260 --> 00:24:07.170
  • - VICTORIA: YEAH, AND IT WAS
  • 00:24:07.170 --> 00:24:08.080
  • BIGGER, REALLY, THAN-- THAT
  • 00:24:08.080 --> 00:24:09.220
  • WOULD HAVE JUST BEEN A DROP IN
  • 00:24:09.220 --> 00:24:10.130
  • THE BUCKET.
  • 00:24:10.130 --> 00:24:10.250
  • - MATT: WOW.
  • 00:24:10.250 --> 00:24:11.080
  • - VICTORIA: BUT THIS IS
  • 00:24:11.080 --> 00:24:11.280
  • EXCITING AND THIS IS BIGGER.
  • 00:24:11.280 --> 00:24:12.270
  • AND THIS WILL REACH MORE
  • 00:24:12.270 --> 00:24:13.150
  • PEOPLE...
  • 00:24:13.150 --> 00:24:14.030
  • - LAURIE: YEAH.
  • 00:24:14.030 --> 00:24:15.000
  • - VICTORIA: ...WITH THIS
  • 00:24:15.000 --> 00:24:15.190
  • MESSAGE OF JESUS.
  • 00:24:15.190 --> 00:24:16.100
  • - LAURIE: YOU KNOW, I REMEMBER
  • 00:24:16.100 --> 00:24:17.060
  • WHEN WE WERE DOING THE MOVIES,
  • 00:24:17.060 --> 00:24:18.080
  • IT'S THE CONTENT, THE CONTENT
  • 00:24:18.080 --> 00:24:19.220
  • THAT IS SO RICH THAT I BELIEVE
  • 00:24:19.220 --> 00:24:21.190
  • GOD IS GONNA BE USING WHEN ONE
  • 00:24:21.190 --> 00:24:23.040
  • OF THE MOVIES WAS, UH...OF OUR
  • 00:24:23.040 --> 00:24:24.270
  • MOVIES WAS IN THE THEATER.
  • 00:24:24.270 --> 00:24:27.050
  • IT WAS...SOLD OUT.
  • 00:24:27.050 --> 00:24:29.150
  • [MUSIC AUDIBLE IN BACKGROUND]
  • 00:24:29.150 --> 00:24:30.060
  • AND A FRIEND OF MINE CALLED ME
  • 00:24:30.060 --> 00:24:31.080
  • AND SHE SAID, "I WAS IN THAT
  • 00:24:31.080 --> 00:24:31.290
  • THEATRE TODAY, TRYING TO BUY A
  • 00:24:31.290 --> 00:24:32.230
  • TICKET, AND I LOOK UP AND I SEE
  • 00:24:32.230 --> 00:24:34.010
  • "SOLD OUT" JUST SCROLLING
  • 00:24:34.010 --> 00:24:35.160
  • ACROSS ALL THE LITTLE THINGS IN
  • 00:24:35.160 --> 00:24:36.080
  • THAT THEATER."
  • 00:24:37.230 --> 00:24:40.230
  • AND SHE SAID, "THE LORD SPOKE
  • 00:24:40.230 --> 00:24:41.140
  • TO ME."
  • 00:24:41.140 --> 00:24:41.240
  • AND SHE SAID, "THIS IS THE
  • 00:24:41.240 --> 00:24:42.140
  • CHURCH CORNER OF THE NEW
  • 00:24:42.140 --> 00:24:43.020
  • MILLENNIUM."
  • 00:24:43.020 --> 00:24:43.140
  • - MATT: HMH.
  • 00:24:43.140 --> 00:24:44.160
  • - LAURIE: AND SO, I JUST FELT
  • 00:24:44.160 --> 00:24:45.220
  • THAT THAT WAS SUCH A POWERFUL
  • 00:24:45.220 --> 00:24:46.290
  • THING THAT GOD WAS GONNA USE
  • 00:24:46.290 --> 00:24:48.090
  • THIS MEDIUM IN SUCH A POWERFUL
  • 00:24:48.090 --> 00:24:50.180
  • WAY ALL AROUND THE WORLD.
  • 00:24:50.180 --> 00:24:52.190
  • 'CAUSE, AS YOU SAID, PEOPLE ARE
  • 00:24:52.190 --> 00:24:54.090
  • WATCHIN' IT WHEN THEIR DEFENSES
  • 00:24:54.090 --> 00:24:55.160
  • ARE DOWN...
  • 00:24:55.160 --> 00:24:56.040
  • - VICTORIA: YEAH.
  • 00:24:56.040 --> 00:24:56.290
  • - LAURIE: ...PEOPLE ARE
  • 00:24:56.290 --> 00:24:58.290
  • WATCHING IT TO, AMUSE ME WHILE
  • 00:24:58.290 --> 00:25:01.090
  • I SIT HERE AND DRINK MY COFFEE,
  • 00:25:01.090 --> 00:25:02.010
  • OR, YOU KNOW, HAVE MY TV
  • 00:25:02.010 --> 00:25:04.080
  • DINNER, OR WHATEVER, YOU KNOW.
  • 00:25:04.080 --> 00:25:05.060
  • [LAUGHS]
  • 00:25:05.060 --> 00:25:05.220
  • AND THEIR DEFENSES ARE DOWN,
  • 00:25:05.220 --> 00:25:07.010
  • CAN WATCH SOMETHING LIKE THIS,
  • 00:25:07.010 --> 00:25:09.290
  • AND THEN JESUS CAN CHANGE THEIR
  • 00:25:09.290 --> 00:25:10.270
  • LIFE, JUST LIKE THAT.
  • 00:25:10.270 --> 00:25:11.270
  • - MATT: "AND I, IF I BE LIFTED
  • 00:25:11.270 --> 00:25:13.010
  • UP...WILL DRAW ALL MEN UNTO
  • 00:25:13.010 --> 00:25:14.020
  • ME."
  • 00:25:14.020 --> 00:25:14.290
  • - LAURIE: IT'S COMIN' UP.
  • 00:25:14.290 --> 00:25:15.260
  • [CLAPS]
  • 00:25:15.260 --> 00:25:16.100
  • - VICTORIA: YOU KNOW, THAT'S
  • 00:25:16.100 --> 00:25:17.050
  • WHAT I LOVE ABOUT TV MEN.
  • 00:25:17.050 --> 00:25:18.040
  • - MATT: VERY, VERY EXCITED
  • 00:25:18.040 --> 00:25:18.240
  • ABOUT THIS.
  • 00:25:18.240 --> 00:25:19.060
  • SAY AGAIN.
  • 00:25:19.060 --> 00:25:19.210
  • - VICTORIA: FIRST CLASS.
  • 00:25:19.210 --> 00:25:21.140
  • YOU DO EVERYTHING EXCELLENT FOR
  • 00:25:21.140 --> 00:25:22.100
  • JESUS.
  • 00:25:22.100 --> 00:25:22.240
  • AND I THINK THAT'S SO
  • 00:25:22.240 --> 00:25:23.110
  • IMPORTANT.
  • 00:25:23.110 --> 00:25:23.220
  • - JOEL: HERE AT TBN.
  • 00:25:23.220 --> 00:25:24.170
  • - VICTORIA: AND HERE AT TBN.
  • 00:25:24.170 --> 00:25:26.150
  • AND I-- I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE
  • 00:25:26.150 --> 00:25:27.230
  • TRY TO DO IN THE MINISTRY.
  • 00:25:27.230 --> 00:25:28.130
  • AND I THINK THAT HE DESERVES
  • 00:25:28.130 --> 00:25:29.090
  • THAT.
  • 00:25:29.090 --> 00:25:29.270
  • AND I LOVE THE FACT AND I
  • 00:25:29.270 --> 00:25:31.050
  • APPLAUD YA'LL BECAUSE YOU DO
  • 00:25:31.050 --> 00:25:32.150
  • EVERYTHING WITH SUCH EXCELLENCE.
  • 00:25:32.150 --> 00:25:35.020
  • - JOEL: AND BEING VERY
  • 00:25:35.020 --> 00:25:35.200
  • KINGDOM-MINDED...
  • 00:25:35.200 --> 00:25:36.050
  • - VICTORIA: VERY
  • 00:25:36.050 --> 00:25:36.200
  • KINGDOM-MINDED.
  • 00:25:36.200 --> 00:25:37.120
  • - JOEL: ...TO PROMOTE ANOTHER
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  • NETWORK.
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  • - LAURIE: OH.
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  • - MATT: WELL...LOOK, WE'RE
  • 00:25:38.270 --> 00:25:40.020
  • PROMOTING THE NAME OF JESUS.
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  • THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE.
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  • - LAURIE: AMEN.
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  • - MATT: LOOK AT THAT.
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  • AND HE SAID HIMSELF, "...IF I
  • 00:25:45.100 --> 00:25:46.020
  • BE LIFTED UP...WILL DRAW ALL
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  • MEN UNTO ME."
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  • IT WAS OUR FOUNDATIONAL
  • 00:25:47.200 --> 00:25:48.080
  • SCRIPTURE
  • 00:25:48.080 --> 00:25:49.040
  • WE CAN'T HELP BUT HELP IN THAT
  • 00:25:49.040 --> 00:25:50.080
  • REGARD.
  • 00:25:50.080 --> 00:25:51.120
  • SO, EXECUTIVES AT HISTORY
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  • CHANNEL -- THANK YOU.
  • 00:25:53.190 --> 00:25:54.210
  • - LAURIE: YES.
  • 00:25:54.210 --> 00:25:57.060
  • - MATT: TBN PARTNERS, TUNE IN.
  • 00:25:57.060 --> 00:25:57.280
  • - LAURIE: WE'RE GONNA WATCH.
  • 00:25:57.280 --> 00:25:58.190
  • - MATT: MARCH 25TH, 8 PM, 7
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  • CENTRAL, FOR THIS AMAZING
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  • PRODUCTION, "JESUS: HIS LIFE."
  • 00:26:01.060 --> 00:26:02.230
  • - MALE VOICE: HE IS A
  • 00:26:02.230 --> 00:26:04.030
  • REVOLUTIONARY PREPARING PEOPLE
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  • FOR ANOTHER REVOLUTIONARY...BY
  • 00:26:05.150 --> 00:26:08.150
  • THE NAME OF JESUS.
  • 00:26:09.000 --> 00:26:12.000
  • - JOHN THE BAPTIST: WELL, I
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  • SHOULD BE BAPTIZED BY YOU.
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  • WHY ARE YOU COMIN' TO ME?
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  • [FOOTSTEPS]
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  • - JESUS: THIS IS HOW IT SHOULD
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  • BE.
  • 00:26:22.100 --> 00:26:25.100
  • - MALE VOICE: THE BIG QUESTION
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  • IN THE GOSPELS IS WHY JESUS
  • 00:26:26.130 --> 00:26:27.030
  • NEEDS TO BE BAPTIZED.
  • 00:26:27.030 --> 00:26:28.140
  • IF JOHN IS BAPTIZING OUT OF
  • 00:26:28.140 --> 00:26:29.150
  • REPENTANCE AND JESUS IS
  • 00:26:29.150 --> 00:26:31.120
  • SINLESS, WHY IS JESUS GETTING
  • 00:26:31.120 --> 00:26:32.030
  • BAPTIZED?
  • 00:26:32.210 --> 00:26:35.210
  • TO MY MIND, IT SEEMS THAT HE
  • 00:26:35.210 --> 00:26:36.260
  • MAY HAVE WANTED TO START HIS
  • 00:26:36.260 --> 00:26:37.260
  • MINISTRY IN A VERY DRAMATIC AND
  • 00:26:37.260 --> 00:26:39.160
  • PUBLIC WAY.
  • 00:26:39.230 --> 00:26:42.230
  • [GENTLE SPLASH OF WATER]
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  • - FEMALE VOICE: JESUS' BAPTISM
  • 00:26:44.000 --> 00:26:45.080
  • BY JOHN IS A HUGE MOMENT.
  • 00:26:45.080 --> 00:26:46.190
  • WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN WHEN
  • 00:26:47.080 --> 00:26:50.080
  • YOU HAVE THE CHARISMATIC,
  • 00:26:50.230 --> 00:26:53.230
  • INFAMOUS (LAUGHS) JOHN THE
  • 00:26:53.230 --> 00:26:54.240
  • BAPTIST ON THE STAGE WITH
  • 00:26:55.030 --> 00:26:58.030
  • JESUS?
  • 00:26:58.030 --> 00:27:00.260
  • [GENTLE SPLASHING OF WATER]
  • 00:27:00.260 --> 00:27:03.250
  • [MUSIC]
  • 00:27:14.000 --> 00:27:17.000
  • [SPLASHING]
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  • - MATT: JOEL, I'LL GIVE YOU
  • 00:27:18.010 --> 00:27:18.210
  • THE FINAL WORD.
  • 00:27:18.210 --> 00:27:19.050
  • - JOEL: WELL, THANK YA'LL SO
  • 00:27:19.050 --> 00:27:19.260
  • AND, YEAH, IT'S GONNA BE A
  • 00:27:21.070 --> 00:27:21.260
  • GREAT SERIES.
  • 00:27:21.260 --> 00:27:22.090
  • IT'S FOUR WEEKS LEADING UP TO
  • 00:27:22.090 --> 00:27:23.000
  • EASTER, AND I KNOW YOU'LL
  • 00:27:23.000 --> 00:27:23.230
  • BE INSPIRED.
  • 00:27:23.230 --> 00:27:24.250
  • YOU'LL LEARN.
  • 00:27:24.250 --> 00:27:25.250
  • YOU CAN MAYBE TELL A FRIEND,
  • 00:27:25.250 --> 00:27:27.030
  • TELL A FAMILY MEMBER, AND WE
  • 00:27:27.030 --> 00:27:28.090
  • BELIEVE THAT, YOU KNOW WHAT?
  • 00:27:28.090 --> 00:27:29.200
  • THEY'LL GET THE MESSAGE OF
  • 00:27:29.200 --> 00:27:31.020
  • CHRIST, ON THE INSIDE.
  • 00:27:31.020 --> 00:27:32.120
  • - MATT: FROM EXECUTIVE
  • 00:27:32.120 --> 00:27:33.210
  • PRODUCER JOEL OSTEEN...
  • 00:27:33.210 --> 00:27:34.200
  • ...VICTORIA OSTEEN, WE'LL SEE
  • 00:27:36.270 --> 00:27:37.180
  • YOU NEXT TIME.
  • 00:27:37.180 --> 00:27:38.020