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Matt Crouch hosts Greg Laurie from Los Angeles, CA

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August 15, 2018
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Matt Crouch hosts Greg Laurie from Los Angeles, CA

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  • MUSIC
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  • - MATT: WELCOME TO "BEHIND THE
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  • SCENES" TODAY.
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  • GREG LAURIE, YOU ARE IN THE NEWS
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  • ALL OF A SUDDEN.
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  • IT'S SUMMERTIME.
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  • EVERYONE THINKS OF
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  • "HARVEST CRUSADE."
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  • THIS YEAR THERE IS A LITTLE BIT
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  • OF A THING GOING ON.
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  • THIS ROLL-IN WILL EXPLAIN IT.
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  • WATCH THIS IF YOU'RE HEARING
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  • THIS FOR THE FIRST TIME.
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  • THIS IS SOMETHING ELSE.
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  • - GREG: HI, EVERYBODY.
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  • GREG LAURIE HERE.
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  • YOU MAY HAVE HEARD ABOUT THE
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  • BILLBOARD CONTROVERSY.
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  • WE'RE DOING A BIG EVENT AT ANGEL
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  • STADIUM CALLED THE
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  • "SOCAL HARVEST."
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  • SO, AS ALWAYS, WE PRINT UP
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  • BUMPER STICKERS, POSTERS,
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  • INVITATIONS AND WE BUY SPACE ON
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  • BILLBOARDS OTHER PLACES TO GET
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  • THE WORD OUT.
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  • FOR THE FIRST YEAR WE DECIDED TO
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  • GO TO FASHION ISLAND, THE
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  • SPECTRUM, THE GALLERIA IN
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  • RIVERSIDE AND SOME BUS STOPS,
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  • THINGS LIKE THAT, AND PUT OUR
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  • ART UP.
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  • WE CHOSE, WELL, I GUESS TO SOME,
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  • CONTROVERSIAL ART.
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  • A PICTURE OF ME HOLDING UP THIS
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  • BOOK.
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  • THIS BOOK, YOU KNOW THIS BOOK,
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  • IT'S CALLED THE BIBLE.
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  • IT'S A FUNNY THING, IN THE THE
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  • PICTURE I'M HOLDING UP A BLACK
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  • BOOK.
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  • IT LOOKS BLACK, BUT IT IS A
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  • BLACK AND WHITE PHOTO.
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  • MAYBE IT WAS A BLUE BOOK.
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  • MAYBE IT WAS A YELLOW BOOK.
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  • MAYBE IT WAS A BOOK ABOUT
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  • BUTTERFLIES.
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  • WELL, IN FACT, IT WAS THE BIBLE.
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  • MY POINT IS, NOT ONLY DID SOME
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  • PEOPLE BIBLE FIND AN IMAGE OF ME
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  • HOLDING UP A BIBLE OFFENSIVE,
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  • THEY FOUND THE IDEA OF ME
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  • HOLDING UP A BLACK BOOK
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  • OFFENSIVE.
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  • SO THEY PULLED THE AD AT FASHION
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  • ISLAND AND ASKED US TO REPRINT
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  • IT WITHOUT THE BIBLE.
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  • WE DID THIS BECAUSE WE WANTED TO
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  • BE GOOD NEIGHBORS AND WORK
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  • TOGETHER WITH THEM IN THE
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  • FUTURE.
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  • THEY CAME BACK AND SAID THEY
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  • WERE NOT GOING TO PUT UP THE NEW
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  • AD EITHER.
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  • THEY REFUNDED OUR MONEY.
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  • BASICALLY, THAT IS WHERE IT
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  • ENDED.
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  • CBN, THE CHRISTIAN BROADCASTING
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  • NETWORK, PICKED UP THE STORY AND
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  • THEY RAN SOMETHING ONLINE.
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  • LET'S JUST SAY IT WENT VIRAL.
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  • A LOT OF PEOPLE PICKED IT UP.
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  • I ENDED UP BEING ON
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  • "FOX & FRIENDS" IN THE MORNING
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  • SEGMENT.
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  • I'VE DONE RADIO SHOWS TALKING
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  • ABOUT THIS.
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  • THE BASIC STORY IS, FOR SOME,
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  • THE BIBLE IS CONTROVERSIAL.
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  • MY QUESTION IS WHY?
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  • - MATT: WHAT IS YOUR
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  • TAKEAWAY, GREG?
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  • THAT IS A GREAT SET-UP.
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  • WHAT IS YOUR TAKEAWAY HERE
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  • AUGUST 2018?
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  • HARVEST IS COMING UP.
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  • - GREG: MY TAKEAWAY IS, LOOK
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  • HOW FAR OUR CULTURE HAS GONE
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  • WHERE NOW JUST HOLDING UP A
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  • BIBLE IS OFFENSIVE TO PEOPLE.
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  • TO ME IT IS INSANE.
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  • YOU THINK OF THE IMPACT OF THE
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  • BIBLE ON AMERICA.
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  • THERE ARE GREAT UNIVERSITIES OR
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  • THERE WOULDN'T BE THIS WAY TODAY
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  • LIKE HARVARD AND YALE STARTED BY
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  • PEOPLE THAT CAME OUT OF
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  • THE GREAT AWAKENING THAT
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  • BELIEVED IN THE BIBLE AND WANTED
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  • TO EDUCATE PEOPLE.
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  • GREAT HOSPITALS THAT WERE
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  • ESTABLISHED.
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  • THE SALVATION ARMY, SAMARITAN'S
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  • PURSE, WORLD VISION, RELIEF
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  • ORGANIZATIONS.
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  • THE LIST GOES ON AND ON OF ALL
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  • THE GOOD THAT HAS BEEN DONE IN
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  • THE COUNTRY FOR PEOPLE WHO
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  • BELIEVED IN THE BIBLE.
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  • GEORGE WASHINGTON SAID, YOU
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  • CANNOT GOVERN A COUNTRY WITHOUT
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  • GOD AND THE BIBLE.
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  • ABRAHAM LINCOLN SAID, THE
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  • GREATEST GIFT GOD GAVE US IT IS
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  • THE BIBLE, BECAUSE IT TELLS US
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  • ABOUT THE SAVIOR.
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  • NOW WE COME TO A PLACE WHERE NOT
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  • ONLY CAN WE NOT EVEN HOLD UP A
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  • BIBLE, PEOPLE DON'T EVEN WANT
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  • YOU TO HOLD UP A BLACK BOOK.
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  • TO ME IT IS RIDICULOUS.
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  • I THINK IN A WAY IT IS A
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  • BACKHANDED COMPLIMENT.
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  • MEANING, THEY KNOW THERE IS
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  • POWER IN THIS MESSAGE.
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  • SOME WILL SAY THIS IS MYTHOLOGY,
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  • IT'S FILLED WITH CONTRADICTIONS,
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  • LET'S TAKE THAT AS A LEGITIMATE
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  • POINT FOR THE SAKE OF AN
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  • ARGUMENT.
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  • WHAT DO YOU CARE IF I HOLD UP A
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  • BLACK BOOK?
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  • WHAT DO YOU CARE IF I BELIEVE IN
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  • THIS?
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  • YOU CARE BECAUSE DEEP DOWN
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  • INSIDE THEY ARE ACKNOWLEDGING
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  • THERE IS POWER IN THE MESSAGE OF
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  • THE BIBLE.
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  • NOT IN BOOK I HOLD, BUT THE
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  • MESSAGE IN THE BOOK.
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  • WHAT DOES GOD SAY ABOUT HIS
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  • WORD?
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  • IT'S ALIVE.
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  • IT'S POWERFUL.
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  • IT'S BEEN BREATHED BY GOD.
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  • SO, I THINK, FOR THE SAME REASON
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  • PEOPLE WILL PUNCTUATE SENTENCES
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  • WITH THE NAME "JESUS CHRIST."
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  • THEY WILL TAKE HIS NAME IN VAIN.
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  • WHY?
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  • BECAUSE EVEN THAT NONBELIEVER IN
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  • THEIR WEIRD WAY, BY USING HIS
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  • NAME, IS ACKNOWLEDGING THERE IS
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  • POWER IN THE NAME OF JESUS AND
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  • THERE IS POWER IN THE MESSAGE OF
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  • THE BIBLE.
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  • - MATT: WELL, YOU ARE TAKE THE
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  • HIGH ROAD, GREG.
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  • IF YOU WOUND THE CLOCK BACK AND
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  • IF WE WERE IN 2012, AND YOU WERE
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  • SITTING HERE, AND MY DAD WAS
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  • DOING THE INTERVIEW, WITH YOU
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  • CONCERNING THE HARVEST CRUSADE
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  • IN THIS CONTROVERSY, HE WOULD
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  • PUT UP THE PHONE NUMBER FOR THE
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  • IRVINE COMPANY.
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  • HE WOULD ASK THE TBN PARTNERS TO
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  • CALL.
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  • SO YOU THINK IT'S BETTER FOR US
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  • TO TAKE SOMEWHAT OF THE HIGH
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  • ROAD HERE AND NOT COMPLETELY DO
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  • A PROTEST.
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  • HOW DO YOU WANT TO ANSWER THIS?
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  • WHAT DO YOU WANT THE STATEMENT
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  • TO BE IN REGARD TO THIS ISSUE?
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  • - GREG: THE IRVINE COMPANY
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  • APOLOGIZED TO US.
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  • I ACCEPTED THEIR APOLOGY.
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  • THE REALITY IS, I THINK THE
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  • CHURCH HAS TWO SECRET WEAPONS.
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  • I DON'T THINK THEY WILL REGISTER
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  • AND VOTE.
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  • I THINK EVERY CHRISTIAN SHOULD
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  • REGISTER AND VOTE.
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  • I DON'T THINK THE SECRET WEAPONS
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  • ARE PROTEST AND BOYCOTT, THOUGH
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  • I THINK AT TIMES THERE IS A
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  • PLACE FOR THAT.
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  • THE SECRET WEAPONS THE CHURCH
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  • HAS ARE PRAYER AND PROCLAMATION.
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  • PRAYER AND PREACHING.
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  • I THINK WE SHOULD SPEND MORE
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  • TIME WORKING ON THAT.
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  • YOU KNOW WHEN PETER WAS ARRESTED
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  • AND THROWN IN PRISON IN ACTS
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  • CHAPTER 12, THE BIBLE SAYS,
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  • CONSTANT PRAYER WAS OFFERED TO
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  • GOD FOR HIM BY THE CHURCH.
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  • YOU KNOW, THEY DID NOT GO DOWN
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  • AND DO A PROTEST AGAINST ROME.
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  • THEY PRAYED.
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  • THEY USED IT FOR THE GOSPEL.
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  • WHAT I'M SAYING, LET'S TAKE THE
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  • SAME ENERGY WE MIGHT WANT TO
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  • APPLY TOWARD A PROTEST OR A
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  • BOYCOTT.
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  • I DON'T WANT TO DO THAT.
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  • HEY, I WILL GO BACK AND SHOP AT
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  • THAT MALL AGAIN.
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  • THAT MAY MAKE PEOPLE UNHAPPY.
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  • MY KIDS LIKE TO GET ICE CREAM
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  • THERE.
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  • THAT IS WHERE I AM AT WITH THAT.
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  • IF WE TAKE THAT SAME ENERGY AND
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  • SAY, PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO HEAR
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  • THAT, LET'S GET THIS MESSAGE OUT
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  • TO EVEN MORE PEOPLE.
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  • THE COOL THING IS, BECAUSE OF
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  • THIS THING THAT HAPPENED, IT
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  • BECAME A NATIONAL NEWS STORY AND
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  • PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE
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  • BIBLE.
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  • LET'S TALK ABOUT THE BIBLE.
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  • IN FACT, MY MESSAGE FRIDAY NIGHT
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  • AT "SO-CAL HARVEST" IS THE POWER
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  • OF THE BIBLE.
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  • I'M GOING TO TAKE THIS THING AND
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  • I'M RUNNING WITH IT.
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  • TO MEAN, IT IS RAISING A LARGER
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  • ISSUE.
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  • ULTIMATELY, MATT, I WANT TO SEE
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  • PEOPLE COME TO JESUS CHRIST.
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  • SO, THAT-- IT IS NOT I'M JUST
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  • TAKING A HIGH ROAD, I'M TAKING
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  • THE GOSPEL ROAD.
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  • I'M TAKING THE ROAD FOR THE
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  • MESSAGE OF JESUS CHRIST.
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  • BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT I WANT
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  • PEOPLE TO HEAR.
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  • - MATT: SO, TBN IS A
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  • FRIENDLY -- PEOPLE THAT GO TO
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  • YOUR CHURCH WATCH TBN.
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  • SO, JUST TAKE YOUR BIBLE.
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  • RIGHT THERE.
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  • DO THE POSE LIKE YOU WERE ON THE
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  • SHOW -- SHOW US THE PICTURE SO
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  • WE CAN SEE WHAT IT WAS.
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  • WE WILL LOOK AT THE MONITOR
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  • HERE.
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  • - GREG: IT IS ON THE LEFT.
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  • DO YOU WANT ME TO STAND AND DO
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  • IT?
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  • HERE WE GO.
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  • - MATT: LIKE THAT.
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  • RIGHT THERE.
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  • - GREG: 1, 2, 3.
  • 00:07:13.190 --> 00:07:14.290
  • (LAUGHTER)
  • 00:07:15.220 --> 00:07:18.220
  • - Matt: SEE. JUST HOLD IT.
  • 00:07:19.240 --> 00:07:22.240
  • WE ARE GOING TO SIT THERE AND
  • 00:07:22.240 --> 00:07:24.010
  • PUT IT IN THEIR FACE.
  • 00:07:24.230 --> 00:07:27.230
  • THIS IS GOING -- GET MIC IN
  • 00:07:27.230 --> 00:07:29.080
  • PLACE.
  • 00:07:29.080 --> 00:07:30.150
  • I'M GOING TO COME IN.
  • 00:07:31.030 --> 00:07:34.030
  • OKAY.
  • 00:07:34.030 --> 00:07:36.280
  • SO, WHAT WE HAVE DONE, WE HAVE
  • 00:07:36.280 --> 00:07:39.100
  • BASICALLY JUST DONE WHAT THE
  • 00:07:39.100 --> 00:07:42.090
  • WORLD SAID THEY DID NOT WANT TO
  • 00:07:42.090 --> 00:07:43.010
  • SEE.
  • 00:07:43.010 --> 00:07:44.240
  • SO WE CAN DO WHATEVER.
  • 00:07:44.240 --> 00:07:47.010
  • YOU CAN DO WHATEVER YOU WANT
  • 00:07:47.010 --> 00:07:48.070
  • HERE ON TBN.
  • 00:07:48.070 --> 00:07:49.220
  • - GREG: I APPRECIATE THAT.
  • 00:07:49.220 --> 00:07:50.240
  • WE KNOW THAT.
  • 00:07:51.100 --> 00:07:54.100
  • I'M THANKFUL TO YOU AND LAURIE
  • 00:07:54.100 --> 00:07:56.190
  • AND YOUR FAMILY FOR PUTTING OUR
  • 00:07:56.190 --> 00:07:57.290
  • CRUSADE ON TELEVISION ALL THESE
  • 00:07:57.290 --> 00:07:58.210
  • YEARS.
  • 00:07:58.210 --> 00:07:59.070
  • YOU HAVE DONE IT MANY, MANY
  • 00:07:59.070 --> 00:07:59.290
  • YEARS.
  • 00:07:59.290 --> 00:08:01.270
  • WE HAVE HEARD AMAZING STORIES OF
  • 00:08:01.270 --> 00:08:03.100
  • PEOPLE THAT HAVE COME TO FAITH
  • 00:08:03.100 --> 00:08:04.190
  • WATCHING THE TELEVISION
  • 00:08:04.190 --> 00:08:05.070
  • BROADCAST.
  • 00:08:05.070 --> 00:08:07.020
  • IT HAS ITS OWN LIFE FORM THAT
  • 00:08:07.020 --> 00:08:08.180
  • TOUCHES PEOPLE WE WOULD NEVER
  • 00:08:08.180 --> 00:08:10.140
  • TOUCH IN A LIVE EVENT.
  • 00:08:10.140 --> 00:08:12.140
  • I LOVE THE FACT THAT YOU ARE
  • 00:08:12.140 --> 00:08:14.230
  • TAKING THIS MIGHTY PLATFORM YOUR
  • 00:08:14.230 --> 00:08:17.160
  • FATHER BUILT AND YOU CONTINUED
  • 00:08:17.160 --> 00:08:18.080
  • TO EXPAND.
  • 00:08:18.080 --> 00:08:20.150
  • AND YOU ARE USING IT FOR THE
  • 00:08:20.150 --> 00:08:21.060
  • GOSPEL.
  • 00:08:21.060 --> 00:08:23.000
  • YOU SAID TO ME MANY TIMES THAT
  • 00:08:23.000 --> 00:08:24.230
  • THAT IS YOUR PASSION.
  • 00:08:24.230 --> 00:08:25.200
  • IT WAS YOUR FATHER'S PASSION AS
  • 00:08:25.200 --> 00:08:26.150
  • WELL FOR THE GOSPEL.
  • 00:08:26.150 --> 00:08:28.150
  • I LOVE THAT.
  • 00:08:28.150 --> 00:08:30.150
  • BECAUSE THE WORLD NEEDS TO HEAR
  • 00:08:30.150 --> 00:08:31.070
  • THE GOSPEL.
  • 00:08:31.070 --> 00:08:33.160
  • SOMETIMES CHRISTIANS ARE KNOWN
  • 00:08:33.160 --> 00:08:34.270
  • FOR WHAT WE ARE AGAINST.
  • 00:08:34.270 --> 00:08:35.280
  • I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW WHAT WE
  • 00:08:35.280 --> 00:08:37.010
  • ARE FOR.
  • 00:08:37.010 --> 00:08:39.010
  • LIKE, INSTEAD OF WE SAYING WE
  • 00:08:39.010 --> 00:08:40.260
  • DON'T WANT TO SEE YOUR BIBLE,
  • 00:08:40.260 --> 00:08:42.150
  • JUST LISTEN TO WHAT THE BIBLE
  • 00:08:42.150 --> 00:08:44.170
  • SAYS FOR A MOMENT AND MAKE AN
  • 00:08:44.170 --> 00:08:45.240
  • INTELLIGENT DECISION BASED ON
  • 00:08:45.240 --> 00:08:47.050
  • THE FACTS AS OPPOSED TO WHAT YOU
  • 00:08:47.050 --> 00:08:48.060
  • THINK THE FACTS ARE.
  • 00:08:48.060 --> 00:08:50.080
  • I DON'T THINK, MATT, MOST PEOPLE
  • 00:08:50.080 --> 00:08:51.260
  • HAVE HEARD A PROPER GOSPEL
  • 00:08:51.260 --> 00:08:52.160
  • PRESENTATION.
  • 00:08:52.160 --> 00:08:53.290
  • I THINK THEY HEARD PREACHING.
  • 00:08:53.290 --> 00:08:55.290
  • AND HEARD THE WORD GOSPEL, BUT
  • 00:08:55.290 --> 00:08:57.260
  • HAVE THEY HEARD THE SIMPLE
  • 00:08:57.260 --> 00:08:58.180
  • GOSPEL?
  • 00:08:58.180 --> 00:09:00.080
  • THE MESSAGE I GIVE IN THE
  • 00:09:00.080 --> 00:09:02.070
  • CRUSADES IS SO SIMPLE.
  • 00:09:02.070 --> 00:09:04.010
  • BUT I WORK ON IT MORE THAN ANY
  • 00:09:04.010 --> 00:09:06.040
  • MESSAGES I DO FOR HOURS AND
  • 00:09:06.040 --> 00:09:06.240
  • HOURS.
  • 00:09:06.240 --> 00:09:09.130
  • BECAUSE I JUST SIMPLIFY AND HONE
  • 00:09:09.130 --> 00:09:11.180
  • THEM DOWN TO JUST ALMOST LIKE
  • 00:09:11.180 --> 00:09:14.150
  • I'M JUST HAVING A SIMPLE
  • 00:09:14.150 --> 00:09:15.200
  • CONVERSATION, BUT IT IS VERY
  • 00:09:15.200 --> 00:09:16.120
  • INTENTIONAL.
  • 00:09:16.120 --> 00:09:18.150
  • I WANT EVERYONE TO AT LEAST
  • 00:09:18.150 --> 00:09:19.170
  • UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING.
  • 00:09:19.170 --> 00:09:20.070
  • - MATT: OKAY.
  • 00:09:20.070 --> 00:09:22.020
  • I WANT TO BACK UP A TOUCH WITH
  • 00:09:22.020 --> 00:09:22.240
  • YOU.
  • 00:09:24.000 --> 00:09:27.000
  • YOU AND I AND OUR WIVES
  • 00:09:27.000 --> 00:09:28.060
  • OCCASIONALLY GET TOGETHER.
  • 00:09:28.100 --> 00:09:31.100
  • I GET TO ASK YOU QUESTIONS AND
  • 00:09:31.100 --> 00:09:33.200
  • I'M GOING TO DO SOME OF THAT
  • 00:09:33.200 --> 00:09:34.100
  • RIGHT NOW.
  • 00:09:34.100 --> 00:09:37.090
  • - Greg: ARE YOU GOING SHOW ME
  • 00:09:37.090 --> 00:09:38.210
  • ANY PICTURES OF YOUR CAT?
  • 00:09:38.210 --> 00:09:39.170
  • - Matt: I COULD.
  • 00:09:39.170 --> 00:09:41.280
  • - Greg: HE HAS THE MOST AMAZING
  • 00:09:41.280 --> 00:09:42.230
  • CAT ON EARTH.
  • 00:09:42.230 --> 00:09:44.090
  • - MATT: I'LL SEND A PICTURE
  • 00:09:44.090 --> 00:09:45.000
  • IN.
  • 00:09:45.000 --> 00:09:46.160
  • - GREG: TWO DIFFERENT COLORED
  • 00:09:46.160 --> 00:09:47.080
  • EYES.
  • 00:09:47.080 --> 00:09:48.140
  • - Matt: FOR SOME REASON HE IS
  • 00:09:48.140 --> 00:09:49.260
  • CAPTIVATED BY OUR CAT.
  • 00:09:49.260 --> 00:09:51.020
  • - GREG: I'M ACTUALLY NOT A CAT
  • 00:09:51.020 --> 00:09:51.260
  • PERSON.
  • 00:09:51.260 --> 00:09:52.110
  • BUT YOUR CAT IS --
  • 00:09:52.110 --> 00:09:53.180
  • - MATT: WE HAVE A BEAUTIFUL
  • 00:09:53.180 --> 00:09:54.110
  • CAT.
  • 00:09:54.110 --> 00:09:57.100
  • WHAT I WANT TO DO, THOUGH, IS ON
  • 00:09:57.280 --> 00:10:00.280
  • OCCASION I GET TO SIT WITH YOU.
  • 00:10:00.280 --> 00:10:03.160
  • I LEARNED A LOT MORE ABOUT WHO
  • 00:10:03.160 --> 00:10:05.020
  • AND WHAT YOU ARE.
  • 00:10:05.020 --> 00:10:06.220
  • I WANT TO ASK YOU A COUPLE OF
  • 00:10:06.220 --> 00:10:07.130
  • QUESTIONS.
  • 00:10:07.130 --> 00:10:08.060
  • GO BACK A LITTLE BIT.
  • 00:10:08.060 --> 00:10:10.260
  • IF WE THINK OF ONE OF THE MOST--
  • 00:10:10.260 --> 00:10:13.130
  • WE HAVE NOT DONE TELEVISION
  • 00:10:13.130 --> 00:10:14.260
  • SINCE BROTHER GRAHAM PASSED A
  • 00:10:14.260 --> 00:10:15.210
  • WAY.
  • 00:10:15.210 --> 00:10:16.230
  • BILLY GRAHAM.
  • 00:10:17.100 --> 00:10:20.100
  • WASN'T HE ONE OF MAYBE FOUR
  • 00:10:20.100 --> 00:10:21.280
  • PEOPLE THAT HAVE EVER LAID IN
  • 00:10:21.280 --> 00:10:24.000
  • STATE AT THE U.S. CAPITOL.
  • 00:10:24.000 --> 00:10:25.150
  • THE ENTIRE GOVERNMENT OF
  • 00:10:25.150 --> 00:10:26.220
  • UNITED STATES WAS PRESENT AT HIS
  • 00:10:27.070 --> 00:10:30.070
  • LAYING IN STATE IN THE ROTUNDA,
  • 00:10:30.070 --> 00:10:31.110
  • THE CAPITOL.
  • 00:10:31.110 --> 00:10:33.040
  • THE PRESIDENT AND VICE PRESIDENT
  • 00:10:33.040 --> 00:10:34.210
  • CAME TO HIS FUNERAL AND NOT SAY
  • 00:10:34.210 --> 00:10:36.060
  • ANYTHING.
  • 00:10:36.060 --> 00:10:37.040
  • THEY SAT THERE AND PAID THEIR
  • 00:10:37.040 --> 00:10:38.100
  • RESPECTS ON THE FRONT ROW.
  • 00:10:38.100 --> 00:10:40.260
  • IT WAS AN AMAZING THING.
  • 00:10:40.260 --> 00:10:42.070
  • HE WAS A SIMPLE GOSPEL PREACHER.
  • 00:10:44.090 --> 00:10:47.090
  • YOU WERE INVOLVED WITH
  • 00:10:47.090 --> 00:10:48.210
  • DR. BILLY GRAHAM, AND IN SOME
  • 00:10:48.210 --> 00:10:51.010
  • WAYS, AREN'T YOU KIND OF
  • 00:10:51.010 --> 00:10:54.010
  • CARRYING A BIT OF A TORCH HE
  • 00:10:54.010 --> 00:10:55.110
  • CARRIED AT SOME POINT?
  • 00:10:55.110 --> 00:10:57.080
  • DO YOU ADMIT TO THAT?
  • 00:10:57.080 --> 00:11:00.040
  • - Greg: YES, I AM CARRYING THE
  • 00:11:00.040 --> 00:11:02.060
  • TORCH ON, BUT NOT THE TORCH.
  • 00:11:02.060 --> 00:11:05.020
  • I HAD PEOPLE ASK, ARE YOU GOING
  • 00:11:05.020 --> 00:11:07.120
  • TO TAKE BILLY GRAHAM'S PLACE?
  • 00:11:07.120 --> 00:11:09.010
  • I DON'T THINK ANYONE WILL EVER
  • 00:11:09.010 --> 00:11:10.200
  • TAKE HIS PLACE.
  • 00:11:10.200 --> 00:11:11.200
  • HE WAS A SINGULAR FIGURE IN
  • 00:11:11.200 --> 00:11:13.040
  • AMERICAN HISTORY FOR ALL THE
  • 00:11:13.040 --> 00:11:13.270
  • REASONS YOU MENTIONED.
  • 00:11:13.270 --> 00:11:16.180
  • HE WAS A PASTOR TO PRESIDENTS
  • 00:11:16.180 --> 00:11:17.270
  • GOING BACK TO TRUMAN, FOR PETE'S
  • 00:11:17.270 --> 00:11:18.260
  • SAKE.
  • 00:11:18.260 --> 00:11:20.230
  • EVERY PRESIDENT FROM TRUMAN ON
  • 00:11:20.230 --> 00:11:22.230
  • BILLY HAD A RELATIONSHIP WITH.
  • 00:11:22.230 --> 00:11:24.060
  • SOME STRONGER THAN OTHERS.
  • 00:11:24.060 --> 00:11:26.060
  • HE WAS THERE FOR THEM.
  • 00:11:26.060 --> 00:11:27.240
  • HE WAS THE PASTOR TO AMERICA.
  • 00:11:27.240 --> 00:11:29.220
  • REMEMBER AFTER 9-11 HE DID THAT
  • 00:11:29.220 --> 00:11:30.280
  • SERVICE IN THE WASHINGTON
  • 00:11:30.280 --> 00:11:31.280
  • CATHEDRAL.
  • 00:11:31.280 --> 00:11:33.050
  • - MATT: YOU INTEGRATED WITH
  • 00:11:33.050 --> 00:11:33.280
  • HIS MINISTRY LATE.
  • 00:11:33.280 --> 00:11:35.220
  • WHAT DID YOU DO?
  • 00:11:35.220 --> 00:11:37.000
  • A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THAT.
  • 00:11:37.000 --> 00:11:39.200
  • - GREG: I HAVE BEEN ON HIS
  • 00:11:39.200 --> 00:11:41.000
  • BOARD OF DIRECTORS OVER TWENTY
  • 00:11:41.000 --> 00:11:41.220
  • YEARS.
  • 00:11:41.220 --> 00:11:43.240
  • THE LAST TEN YEARS OF BILLY'S
  • 00:11:43.240 --> 00:11:45.060
  • MINISTRY, I BECAME VERY INVOLVED
  • 00:11:45.060 --> 00:11:46.200
  • WITH HIM AND HELPED HIM WITH
  • 00:11:46.200 --> 00:11:47.110
  • RESEARCH.
  • 00:11:47.110 --> 00:11:49.010
  • OUR CRUSADE MINISTRY WAS JUST
  • 00:11:49.010 --> 00:11:50.150
  • STARTING EARLY '90'S.
  • 00:11:50.150 --> 00:11:52.070
  • HIS WAS SORT OF COMING TO A
  • 00:11:52.070 --> 00:11:52.270
  • CLOSE.
  • 00:11:52.270 --> 00:11:53.290
  • BILLY NEEDED HELP WITH
  • 00:11:53.290 --> 00:11:56.000
  • CONTEMPORARY ILLUSTRATIONS.
  • 00:11:56.000 --> 00:11:57.160
  • CULTURAL THINGS.
  • 00:11:57.250 --> 00:12:00.270
  • SO, I WOULD WORK ON HIS SERMONS
  • 00:12:00.270 --> 00:12:02.260
  • AND I WOULD TRAVEL WITH HIM.
  • 00:12:02.260 --> 00:12:05.060
  • I CAN THINK OF TIMES I WOULD GO
  • 00:12:05.060 --> 00:12:07.070
  • TO HIS HOTEL ROOM AND LITERALLY
  • 00:12:07.070 --> 00:12:08.130
  • PREACH SERMONS TO BILLY GRAHAM
  • 00:12:08.130 --> 00:12:09.040
  • IN HIS ROOM.
  • 00:12:09.040 --> 00:12:10.180
  • BILLY, HERE IS HOW I WOULD MAKE
  • 00:12:10.180 --> 00:12:11.100
  • THIS POINT.
  • 00:12:11.100 --> 00:12:12.160
  • I WOULD GIVE IT TO HIM LIKE IT
  • 00:12:12.160 --> 00:12:13.270
  • WOULD BE ME.
  • 00:12:13.270 --> 00:12:15.220
  • HE WOULD JUST LISTEN TO ME.
  • 00:12:15.220 --> 00:12:17.100
  • IF HE LIKED IT, HE WOULD HAVE IT
  • 00:12:17.100 --> 00:12:18.100
  • ADDED INTO HIS MESSAGE.
  • 00:12:18.100 --> 00:12:20.050
  • ONE OF THE GREATEST JOYS I EVER
  • 00:12:20.050 --> 00:12:21.140
  • EXPERIENCED WAS HEARING HIM USE
  • 00:12:21.140 --> 00:12:22.120
  • SOME OF THE THINGS I GAVE TO
  • 00:12:22.120 --> 00:12:23.090
  • HIM.
  • 00:12:23.090 --> 00:12:24.080
  • - MATT: GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE.
  • 00:12:24.080 --> 00:12:25.110
  • - GREG: HERE'S A RANDOM ONE.
  • 00:12:25.110 --> 00:12:27.070
  • EVER HEAR OF THE BAND.
  • 00:12:27.070 --> 00:12:28.140
  • "SMASHING PUMPKINS"?
  • 00:12:28.140 --> 00:12:29.220
  • THEY WERE POPULAR AT THE MOMENT.
  • 00:12:29.220 --> 00:12:32.020
  • THEY HAD A SONG CALLED "RAT IN A
  • 00:12:32.020 --> 00:12:32.250
  • CAGE."
  • 00:12:32.250 --> 00:12:34.090
  • I DON'T REMEMBER THE LYRICS.
  • 00:12:34.170 --> 00:12:37.170
  • "MY LIFE IS I'M LIKE A RAT IN A
  • 00:12:37.170 --> 00:12:38.180
  • CAGE."
  • 00:12:38.180 --> 00:12:39.160
  • I WROTE IT OUT.
  • 00:12:39.160 --> 00:12:40.250
  • I WANTED TO EXPLAIN TO BILLY,
  • 00:12:40.250 --> 00:12:42.010
  • THIS IS A BAND.
  • 00:12:42.010 --> 00:12:42.230
  • HE MIGHT THINK IT IS PEOPLE
  • 00:12:42.230 --> 00:12:43.200
  • SMASHING PUMPKINS.
  • 00:12:43.200 --> 00:12:45.130
  • HE DOESN'T LISTEN TO THAT.
  • 00:12:45.130 --> 00:12:47.040
  • I EXPLAINED IT TO HIM.
  • 00:12:47.040 --> 00:12:49.000
  • IT WAS IN -- I'M TRYING TO
  • 00:12:49.000 --> 00:12:51.160
  • REMEMBER EXACTLY.
  • 00:12:51.160 --> 00:12:53.080
  • MINNEAPOLIS.
  • 00:12:53.080 --> 00:12:54.240
  • I AM SITTING IN THE STANDS.
  • 00:12:54.240 --> 00:12:56.140
  • HE GOT UP THERE AND HE SAID,
  • 00:12:56.140 --> 00:12:58.110
  • THERE'S A BAND OUT THERE CALLED
  • 00:12:58.110 --> 00:12:59.170
  • "SMASHING PUMPKINS."
  • 00:12:59.170 --> 00:13:01.150
  • AND JUST HEARING BILLY GRAHAM
  • 00:13:01.150 --> 00:13:03.060
  • SAY "SMASHING PUMPKINS," MADE MY
  • 00:13:03.060 --> 00:13:04.090
  • DAY.
  • 00:13:04.090 --> 00:13:06.060
  • THEY HAVE A SONG, "RAT IN A
  • 00:13:06.060 --> 00:13:07.060
  • CAGE."
  • 00:13:07.060 --> 00:13:08.060
  • ARE YOU A RAT IN A CAGE?
  • 00:13:08.060 --> 00:13:09.200
  • I'M LIKE, YES, YES.
  • 00:13:09.200 --> 00:13:12.040
  • IT WAS AN EPIC MOMENT.
  • 00:13:12.040 --> 00:13:14.060
  • SOME OTHER THINGS I DID
  • 00:13:14.060 --> 00:13:15.020
  • FOR HIM.
  • 00:13:15.020 --> 00:13:18.000
  • IT WAS ALWAYS JUST A JOY TO HANG
  • 00:13:18.000 --> 00:13:18.260
  • OUT WITH HIM.
  • 00:13:19.020 --> 00:13:22.020
  • HE WAS SUCH A NICE MAN.
  • 00:13:22.020 --> 00:13:23.250
  • HE WAS SUCH A KIND PERSON.
  • 00:13:23.250 --> 00:13:25.290
  • YOU KNOW, HE WAS THE KIND OF
  • 00:13:25.290 --> 00:13:28.210
  • PERSON WHO WOULD ACTUALLY ASK
  • 00:13:28.210 --> 00:13:29.240
  • YOU ABOUT YOURSELF AND REALLY
  • 00:13:29.240 --> 00:13:31.010
  • WANTED TO KNOW THE ANSWER AND
  • 00:13:31.010 --> 00:13:32.060
  • WOULD LISTEN MORE THAT BE TALK.
  • 00:13:32.060 --> 00:13:34.170
  • YOU HAD TO PULL STUFF OUT OF
  • 00:13:34.170 --> 00:13:35.100
  • BILLY.
  • 00:13:35.100 --> 00:13:35.290
  • HE NEVER BRAGGED.
  • 00:13:35.290 --> 00:13:37.030
  • I'D SAY, BILLY, YOU KNEW
  • 00:13:37.030 --> 00:13:37.240
  • GOLDA MEIER.
  • 00:13:37.240 --> 00:13:39.050
  • YOU KNEW THIS PERSON.
  • 00:13:39.050 --> 00:13:40.180
  • DIDN'T NOW JOHN KENNEDY?
  • 00:13:40.180 --> 00:13:41.160
  • YES, I DID.
  • 00:13:41.160 --> 00:13:44.020
  • MAN, HE WAS LIKE, THE STORIES,
  • 00:13:44.020 --> 00:13:46.130
  • HE TOLD ME AMAZING STORY ABOUT
  • 00:13:46.130 --> 00:13:48.290
  • PRESIDENT KENNEDY.
  • 00:13:48.290 --> 00:13:49.250
  • HE WAS DOING THE PRAYER
  • 00:13:49.250 --> 00:13:51.110
  • BREAKFAST IN WASHINGTON.
  • 00:13:51.110 --> 00:13:52.280
  • THE PRESIDENT WAS THERE,
  • 00:13:52.280 --> 00:13:53.210
  • PRESIDENT KENNEDY.
  • 00:13:53.210 --> 00:13:56.110
  • THE PRESIDENT SAID, BILLY, WOULD
  • 00:13:56.170 --> 00:13:59.170
  • I LIKE YOU TO DRIVE BACK WITH ME
  • 00:13:59.170 --> 00:14:00.140
  • TO THE WHITE HOUSE.
  • 00:14:00.140 --> 00:14:01.140
  • I HAVE SOMETHING I WANT TO TALK
  • 00:14:01.140 --> 00:14:02.110
  • TO YOU ABOUT.
  • 00:14:02.110 --> 00:14:03.050
  • BILLY WAS VERY SICK.
  • 00:14:03.050 --> 00:14:04.160
  • HE SAID MR. PRESIDENT, I'M
  • 00:14:04.160 --> 00:14:06.090
  • AFRAID YOU MIGHT GET WHAT I
  • 00:14:06.090 --> 00:14:06.290
  • HAVE.
  • 00:14:06.290 --> 00:14:08.140
  • MAYBE WE CAN GET TOGETHER A
  • 00:14:08.140 --> 00:14:10.060
  • LITTLE BIT LATER AND TALK ABOUT
  • 00:14:10.060 --> 00:14:12.020
  • WHATEVER YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT.
  • 00:14:12.020 --> 00:14:13.050
  • THE PRESIDENT SAID OKAY.
  • 00:14:13.050 --> 00:14:14.070
  • DAYS LATER, KENNEDY WAS
  • 00:14:14.070 --> 00:14:16.040
  • ASSASSINATED IN DALLAS.
  • 00:14:16.040 --> 00:14:17.270
  • BILLY SAID, I ALWAYS REGRETTED
  • 00:14:17.270 --> 00:14:19.250
  • THAT AND WONDERED WHAT HE WANTED
  • 00:14:19.250 --> 00:14:20.220
  • TO TALK TO ME ABOUT.
  • 00:14:20.220 --> 00:14:21.290
  • THE STORIES.
  • 00:14:22.110 --> 00:14:25.110
  • HE WAS VERY FRIENDLY.
  • 00:14:25.110 --> 00:14:27.000
  • HE WAS VERY ACCESSIBLE.
  • 00:14:27.000 --> 00:14:28.280
  • I LEARNED A LOT, NOT ONLY
  • 00:14:28.280 --> 00:14:31.010
  • WATCHING HIM PREACH BUT KIND OF
  • 00:14:31.010 --> 00:14:31.230
  • JUST WATCHING HIM AS A MAN.
  • 00:14:31.230 --> 00:14:32.150
  • IT HELPED ME.
  • 00:14:32.150 --> 00:14:35.000
  • I HAD BEEN ENROLLED IN THE
  • 00:14:35.000 --> 00:14:36.030
  • FINEST EVANGELISTIC UNIVERSITY
  • 00:14:36.030 --> 00:14:37.050
  • ON EARTH.
  • 00:14:37.110 --> 00:14:40.110
  • I WAS BEING TUTORED IN A WAY AT
  • 00:14:40.120 --> 00:14:43.120
  • MOMENTS AND TIMES HERE AND THERE
  • 00:14:43.120 --> 00:14:44.040
  • BY BILLY.
  • 00:14:44.040 --> 00:14:46.090
  • SO, I DIDN'T REALIZE WHAT
  • 00:14:46.090 --> 00:14:48.230
  • TRAINING I WAS GETTING.
  • 00:14:48.230 --> 00:14:50.220
  • I WAS ABLE TO GET JUST A SENSE
  • 00:14:50.220 --> 00:14:52.280
  • OF THE WHOLE THING THAT HE DOES.
  • 00:14:52.280 --> 00:14:53.220
  • NOT JUST THE PREACHING PART.
  • 00:14:54.100 --> 00:14:57.100
  • - MATT: SO, IF YOU ZOOM
  • 00:14:57.100 --> 00:14:58.190
  • FORWARD WHERE WE ARE NOW.
  • 00:14:58.190 --> 00:14:59.150
  • HARVEST CRUSADE IS --
  • 00:15:01.250 --> 00:15:04.250
  • AND I JUST-- FOR THOSE WATCHING,
  • 00:15:04.250 --> 00:15:05.210
  • OUTSIDE OF THE
  • 00:15:05.210 --> 00:15:07.250
  • SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA AREA.
  • 00:15:07.250 --> 00:15:10.090
  • IT IS HARD TO DESCRIBE, REALLY,
  • 00:15:10.090 --> 00:15:11.220
  • THE IMPACT OF THE
  • 00:15:12.110 --> 00:15:15.110
  • SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA -- WE SAY
  • 00:15:15.110 --> 00:15:16.160
  • SOCAL HARVEST CRUSADE.
  • 00:15:18.160 --> 00:15:21.160
  • YOU START SEEING THE POSTERS UP
  • 00:15:21.160 --> 00:15:23.280
  • ON THE FREEWAYS.
  • 00:15:23.280 --> 00:15:25.150
  • ALL OF A SUDDEN THE BUMPER
  • 00:15:25.150 --> 00:15:27.060
  • STICKERS POP OUT.
  • 00:15:27.060 --> 00:15:29.100
  • YOU JUST END UP SEEING AND BEING
  • 00:15:29.100 --> 00:15:30.040
  • INUNDATED.
  • 00:15:30.040 --> 00:15:31.170
  • IT IS A THING HERE.
  • 00:15:31.180 --> 00:15:34.180
  • IT IS HOW MANY DAY THIS IS TIME?
  • 00:15:34.180 --> 00:15:36.060
  • - THREE NIGHTS, AUGUST 17 TO
  • 00:15:36.060 --> 00:15:37.020
  • 19.
  • 00:15:37.020 --> 00:15:39.230
  • I'VE BEEN TOLD IT IS THE LONGEST
  • 00:15:39.230 --> 00:15:41.030
  • RUNNING, LARGE-SCALE
  • 00:15:41.030 --> 00:15:42.220
  • EVANGELISTIC EVENT IN AMERICAN
  • 00:15:42.220 --> 00:15:43.180
  • HISTORY.
  • 00:15:43.180 --> 00:15:45.070
  • I'VE NEVER HEARD OF ANYTHING
  • 00:15:45.070 --> 00:15:47.040
  • QUITE LIKE THIS ANYWHERE ELSE.
  • 00:15:47.040 --> 00:15:48.280
  • COMING BACK TO BILLY FOR A
  • 00:15:48.280 --> 00:15:49.180
  • MOMENT.
  • 00:15:49.180 --> 00:15:51.030
  • THE IMAGE I CHOSE HOLDING THE
  • 00:15:51.030 --> 00:15:52.250
  • BIBLE IS A THROWBACK TO OLD
  • 00:15:52.250 --> 00:15:53.260
  • BILLY GRAHAM PHOTOS.
  • 00:15:53.260 --> 00:15:55.150
  • YOU SEE HIM HOLDING HIS BIBLE.
  • 00:15:55.150 --> 00:15:57.130
  • THAT IS WHY I CHOSE IT.
  • 00:15:57.130 --> 00:15:59.070
  • ANOTHER THING WE ADDED RECENTLY,
  • 00:16:00.220 --> 00:16:03.220
  • WE PUT JOHN 14:6 PROMINENTLY ON
  • 00:16:03.220 --> 00:16:05.060
  • THE FRONT OF THE STAGE.
  • 00:16:05.060 --> 00:16:06.140
  • ANYONE THAT TAKES A PICTURE,
  • 00:16:06.140 --> 00:16:08.080
  • JOHN 14:6 WILL GET IN THERE,
  • 00:16:08.080 --> 00:16:09.220
  • WHICH IS JESUS SAYING "I'M THE
  • 00:16:09.220 --> 00:16:10.240
  • WAY THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE."
  • 00:16:10.240 --> 00:16:11.270
  • THE REASON DO THAT,
  • 00:16:11.270 --> 00:16:13.290
  • I THINK SOMETIMES THE CHURCH IS
  • 00:16:13.290 --> 00:16:15.240
  • TRYING SO HARD TO BE CULTURALLY
  • 00:16:15.240 --> 00:16:17.090
  • RELEVANT AND TO SHOW WE ARE
  • 00:16:17.090 --> 00:16:19.190
  • COOL, WE'RE HIP, WHATEVER WE
  • 00:16:19.190 --> 00:16:21.020
  • WANT TO SHOW.
  • 00:16:21.020 --> 00:16:21.260
  • YEAH, WE CAN DO THAT.
  • 00:16:21.260 --> 00:16:23.190
  • BUT, YOU KNOW WHAT, THIS IS OUR
  • 00:16:23.190 --> 00:16:24.110
  • MESSAGE.
  • 00:16:24.110 --> 00:16:25.280
  • IT IS THE BIBLE AND IT IS JOHN
  • 00:16:25.280 --> 00:16:26.200
  • 14:6.
  • 00:16:26.200 --> 00:16:28.100
  • I'M NOT EMBARRASSED TO SAY THAT.
  • 00:16:28.100 --> 00:16:30.220
  • - MATT: I QUOTE YOU A LOT,
  • 00:16:30.220 --> 00:16:31.280
  • GREG.
  • 00:16:31.280 --> 00:16:33.210
  • I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW THAT.
  • 00:16:33.210 --> 00:16:34.210
  • I DO.
  • 00:16:34.210 --> 00:16:37.120
  • - GREG: WHAT WOULD BE A QUOTE?
  • 00:16:37.120 --> 00:16:39.070
  • - MATT: I'M JUST TELLING YOU.
  • 00:16:39.070 --> 00:16:41.020
  • ONE TIME WE WERE INTERVIEWING
  • 00:16:41.020 --> 00:16:42.120
  • SOMEWHERE, I DON'T REMEMBER.
  • 00:16:42.120 --> 00:16:44.120
  • I HAVE A COUPLE OF VERY VIVID
  • 00:16:44.120 --> 00:16:45.160
  • MEMORIES WITH YOU.
  • 00:16:45.160 --> 00:16:47.160
  • ONE TIME IS WHEN YOU TRIED TO
  • 00:16:47.160 --> 00:16:50.110
  • KISS CATHE ON TBN AND SHE
  • 00:16:50.110 --> 00:16:51.240
  • RECOILED AWAY FROM YOU.
  • 00:16:51.240 --> 00:16:53.280
  • IF WE CAN GO TO THAT, THAT WOULD
  • 00:16:53.280 --> 00:16:55.060
  • BE GOOD.
  • 00:16:55.060 --> 00:16:57.040
  • - GREG: YOU HAVE TO REPLAY
  • 00:16:57.040 --> 00:16:57.260
  • THAT ONE AGAIN.
  • 00:16:57.260 --> 00:16:59.230
  • - (MUSIC) AT LAST...
  • 00:17:01.230 --> 00:17:04.230
  • MY LOVE HAS COME ALONG
  • 00:17:06.070 --> 00:17:09.070
  • (MUSIC
  • 00:17:11.020 --> 00:17:14.020
  • MY LONELY DAYS ARE OVER
  • 00:17:18.030 --> 00:17:21.030
  • AND LIFE IS LIKE...
  • 00:17:22.090 --> 00:17:25.090
  • - Matt: THE OTHER PIECE IS, I
  • 00:17:25.090 --> 00:17:27.070
  • ASKED YOU ONE TIME, GREG, I
  • 00:17:28.150 --> 00:17:31.150
  • SAID, YOU ARE GETTING READY TO
  • 00:17:31.210 --> 00:17:34.210
  • GO AND YOU ARE GOING TO DO THIS
  • 00:17:34.210 --> 00:17:35.140
  • HUGE HARVEST CRUSADE.
  • 00:17:35.140 --> 00:17:37.150
  • THERE IS EVERY KIND OF YOUNG
  • 00:17:37.150 --> 00:17:38.180
  • PERSON, THERE IS EVERY KIND OF
  • 00:17:38.180 --> 00:17:39.220
  • PERSON THERE.
  • 00:17:39.220 --> 00:17:42.210
  • HOW DO YOU MAKE JESUS RELEVANT?
  • 00:17:42.210 --> 00:17:45.140
  • AND WHAT YOU SAID TO ME WAS SO
  • 00:17:45.140 --> 00:17:46.060
  • IMPACTFUL.
  • 00:17:46.060 --> 00:17:48.120
  • YOU SAID, OUR JOB IS NOT TO MAKE
  • 00:17:48.120 --> 00:17:50.030
  • JESUS RELEVANT.
  • 00:17:50.030 --> 00:17:52.030
  • HE IS RELEVANT TO EVERY
  • 00:17:52.030 --> 00:17:53.230
  • SITUATION EVERY TIME.
  • 00:17:54.050 --> 00:17:57.050
  • AND I QUOTE THAT ALL THE TIME.
  • 00:17:58.090 --> 00:18:01.110
  • AND SO, YOUR JOB COMING UP ON
  • 00:18:01.110 --> 00:18:02.100
  • THE 17 THROUGH THE 19TH HERE IS
  • 00:18:02.100 --> 00:18:03.130
  • WHAT?
  • 00:18:03.130 --> 00:18:04.060
  • WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO?
  • 00:18:04.060 --> 00:18:06.280
  • - GREG: IT IS REALLY TO HAVE A
  • 00:18:06.280 --> 00:18:07.220
  • CONVERSATION.
  • 00:18:07.220 --> 00:18:10.010
  • WHEN IT IS ALL SAID AND DONE,
  • 00:18:10.010 --> 00:18:10.260
  • THOUGH I'M PREACHING, I'M
  • 00:18:10.260 --> 00:18:11.220
  • PROJECTING.
  • 00:18:11.220 --> 00:18:13.260
  • WHEN I THINK OF PEOPLE THAT ARE
  • 00:18:13.260 --> 00:18:14.180
  • LISTENING, I THINK OF AN
  • 00:18:14.180 --> 00:18:15.140
  • INDIVIDUAL.
  • 00:18:15.140 --> 00:18:16.160
  • YOU CAN'T WRAP YOUR MIND AROUND
  • 00:18:16.160 --> 00:18:17.080
  • 45.000 PEOPLE.
  • 00:18:17.080 --> 00:18:18.220
  • YOU CAN'T WRAP YOUR MIND AROUND
  • 00:18:18.220 --> 00:18:20.030
  • A TELEVISION AUDIENCE.
  • 00:18:20.030 --> 00:18:21.110
  • WHO KNOWS WHO IS SEEING THIS?
  • 00:18:21.110 --> 00:18:23.240
  • WHEN I'M UP THERE, I'M FAR FROM
  • 00:18:23.240 --> 00:18:25.100
  • THE AUDIENCE.
  • 00:18:25.100 --> 00:18:27.100
  • I CAN'T MAKE EYE CONTACT WITH
  • 00:18:27.100 --> 00:18:28.200
  • PEOPLE, WHICH I LIKE TO DO AT
  • 00:18:28.200 --> 00:18:29.110
  • CHURCH.
  • 00:18:30.190 --> 00:18:33.190
  • I CAN'T PLAY OF PEOPLE OR
  • 00:18:33.190 --> 00:18:34.080
  • REACTION OF SOMEONE.
  • 00:18:34.080 --> 00:18:35.100
  • I'M JUST STANDING UP THERE SO
  • 00:18:35.100 --> 00:18:36.030
  • FAR FROM EVERYONE.
  • 00:18:36.030 --> 00:18:38.050
  • I JUST THINK ABOUT WHAT IS TRUE.
  • 00:18:38.050 --> 00:18:39.150
  • I'M TALKING TO A PERSON WHO MAY
  • 00:18:39.150 --> 00:18:40.220
  • BE AT END OF THEIR ROPE.
  • 00:18:40.220 --> 00:18:41.230
  • I'M TALKING TO A PERSON WHO IS
  • 00:18:41.230 --> 00:18:43.110
  • CONTEMPLATING SUICIDE.
  • 00:18:43.110 --> 00:18:45.110
  • I'M TALKING TO A MOM WHO IS
  • 00:18:45.110 --> 00:18:47.120
  • STRUGGLING TO MAKE ENDS MEET.
  • 00:18:47.120 --> 00:18:49.070
  • I'M TALKING TO A MAN WHO HAS
  • 00:18:49.070 --> 00:18:51.050
  • REACHED MANY OF LIFE'S GOALS BUT
  • 00:18:51.050 --> 00:18:51.280
  • IS EMPTY AND SEARCHING.
  • 00:18:51.280 --> 00:18:54.040
  • I'M TALKING TO AN ATHEIST.
  • 00:18:54.040 --> 00:18:55.160
  • IT GOES ON AND ON.
  • 00:18:55.160 --> 00:18:57.120
  • I ALMOST TRY TO ANTICIPATE
  • 00:18:57.120 --> 00:18:59.040
  • THINGS THEY MIGHT ASK ME.
  • 00:18:59.040 --> 00:19:01.050
  • SOMETIMES I WILL STOP MYSELF.
  • 00:19:01.050 --> 00:19:03.070
  • I WILL MAKE A STATEMENT AND SAY,
  • 00:19:03.070 --> 00:19:04.250
  • YOU MIGHT SAY, HOLD ON GREG,
  • 00:19:04.250 --> 00:19:05.200
  • WHAT ABOUT THIS?
  • 00:19:05.200 --> 00:19:06.080
  • I WILL RAISE THE QUESTION.
  • 00:19:06.080 --> 00:19:08.150
  • THEN I WILL ANSWER THE QUESTION
  • 00:19:08.150 --> 00:19:09.210
  • AND RETURN TO WHAT I'M SAYING.
  • 00:19:09.210 --> 00:19:12.150
  • BECAUSE IT IS REALLY JUST
  • 00:19:12.150 --> 00:19:14.120
  • SHOWING YOU HOW THE MESSAGE OF
  • 00:19:14.120 --> 00:19:16.030
  • JESUS CHRIST REALLY IS THE
  • 00:19:16.030 --> 00:19:17.290
  • ANSWER THAT YOU ARE LOOKING FOR.
  • 00:19:17.290 --> 00:19:20.060
  • AND IT IS WHAT YOU HAVE BEEN
  • 00:19:20.060 --> 00:19:20.260
  • SEARCHING FOR.
  • 00:19:20.260 --> 00:19:22.040
  • MY WIFE LIKES TO PUT PUZZLES
  • 00:19:22.040 --> 00:19:23.040
  • TOGETHER.
  • 00:19:23.040 --> 00:19:24.030
  • I HAVE NO IDEA WAY.
  • 00:19:24.030 --> 00:19:25.090
  • PUZZLES HOLD NO ALLURE TO ME.
  • 00:19:25.090 --> 00:19:27.290
  • WHO CARES, YOU KNOW?
  • 00:19:28.260 --> 00:19:31.260
  • THE OTHER DAY SHE FINISHED A
  • 00:19:31.260 --> 00:19:33.290
  • PUZZLE AT HOME.
  • 00:19:33.290 --> 00:19:35.130
  • ONE PIECE WAS LITERALLY MISSING.
  • 00:19:35.130 --> 00:19:37.130
  • WE ARE ON OUR HANDS AND KNEES
  • 00:19:37.130 --> 00:19:38.070
  • LOOKING FOR THE MISSING PIECE.
  • 00:19:38.070 --> 00:19:39.120
  • WE FOUND IT.
  • 00:19:39.120 --> 00:19:40.200
  • SHE WAS HAPPY.
  • 00:19:40.200 --> 00:19:42.080
  • I THOUGHT THAT IS LIFE.
  • 00:19:42.080 --> 00:19:43.190
  • WE THINK IF I GET MARRIED.
  • 00:19:43.190 --> 00:19:45.130
  • IF I GET THIS CAREER.
  • 00:19:45.130 --> 00:19:46.190
  • IF I REACH THIS GOAL.
  • 00:19:46.190 --> 00:19:48.070
  • IF I MAKE THIS MUCH MONEY.
  • 00:19:48.070 --> 00:19:49.120
  • OR WE HAVE THE KIDS.
  • 00:19:49.120 --> 00:19:51.030
  • OR WHATEVER IT IS YOU HAVE IS
  • 00:19:51.030 --> 00:19:53.020
  • YOUR PUZZLE THAT YOU THINK NEEDS
  • 00:19:53.020 --> 00:19:55.060
  • TO BE COMPLETED, ONE DAY IT IS
  • 00:19:55.060 --> 00:19:56.120
  • DONE AND THERE A MISSING PIECE,
  • 00:19:56.120 --> 00:19:57.040
  • IT IS GOD.
  • 00:19:57.040 --> 00:19:58.150
  • IT IS A RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD.
  • 00:19:58.150 --> 00:20:00.020
  • HE HOLDS THE MISSING PIECE.
  • 00:20:00.020 --> 00:20:02.240
  • A LOT OF PEOPLE NEVER STOP
  • 00:20:02.240 --> 00:20:03.170
  • LOOKING AT THAT PUZZLE.
  • 00:20:03.170 --> 00:20:05.070
  • THEY NEED TO LOOK UP.
  • 00:20:05.070 --> 00:20:06.200
  • IT IS HERE IN THIS BIBLE.
  • 00:20:06.200 --> 00:20:08.140
  • THAT IS THE MESSAGE I WANT TO
  • 00:20:08.140 --> 00:20:09.050
  • PROCLAIM TO PEOPLE.
  • 00:20:09.050 --> 00:20:10.150
  • - MATT: OKAY.
  • 00:20:12.220 --> 00:20:15.220
  • SO, WHEN YOU HAVE THE MEETING,
  • 00:20:15.250 --> 00:20:18.250
  • AND SOMEBODY THAT HAS NOT COME,
  • 00:20:18.250 --> 00:20:20.060
  • NEVER BEEN THERE.
  • 00:20:20.060 --> 00:20:21.210
  • WE COULD BE TALKING TO SOMEBODY
  • 00:20:21.210 --> 00:20:24.130
  • HERE IN SO CAL OR SOMEBODY THAT
  • 00:20:24.130 --> 00:20:26.040
  • WANTS TO DRIVE IN AND BE A PART
  • 00:20:26.040 --> 00:20:27.090
  • OF IT.
  • 00:20:27.090 --> 00:20:29.030
  • IS THERE ANYTHING THEY NEED TO
  • 00:20:29.030 --> 00:20:30.260
  • DO EXCEPT JUST SHOW UP?
  • 00:20:30.260 --> 00:20:32.020
  • DO THEY NEED TO RESERVE A PLACE
  • 00:20:32.020 --> 00:20:32.290
  • OR RESERVE A TICKET?
  • 00:20:32.290 --> 00:20:33.230
  • HOW DOES IT WORK?
  • 00:20:33.230 --> 00:20:35.120
  • - GREG: YOU CANNOT RESERVE A
  • 00:20:35.120 --> 00:20:36.050
  • TICKET.
  • 00:20:36.050 --> 00:20:37.010
  • IT IS A FREE EVENT.
  • 00:20:37.010 --> 00:20:38.090
  • IT IS FIRST COME FIRST SERVED.
  • 00:20:38.090 --> 00:20:40.040
  • THE EARLIER YOU GET THERE, THE
  • 00:20:40.040 --> 00:20:40.270
  • BETTER.
  • 00:20:40.270 --> 00:20:43.200
  • THE MORE SURE YOU WILL FIND A
  • 00:20:43.200 --> 00:20:45.240
  • SEAT.
  • 00:20:45.240 --> 00:20:47.000
  • I WOULD SAY, SECONDLY, BRING
  • 00:20:47.000 --> 00:20:49.150
  • SOMEONE WITH YOU THAT DOES NOT
  • 00:20:49.150 --> 00:20:50.070
  • KNOW LORD.
  • 00:20:50.070 --> 00:20:52.060
  • WE FOUND, MATT, 85 PERCENT OF
  • 00:20:52.060 --> 00:20:53.280
  • THOSE THAT MAKE A PROFESSION OF
  • 00:20:53.280 --> 00:20:55.120
  • FAITH TO FOLLOW CHRIST AND COME
  • 00:20:55.120 --> 00:20:56.160
  • FORWARD WERE BROUGHT BY A
  • 00:20:56.160 --> 00:20:57.260
  • FRIEND.
  • 00:20:57.260 --> 00:20:59.110
  • I CAN'T EMPHASIZE THAT ENOUGH.
  • 00:20:59.110 --> 00:21:01.290
  • FOR THE FOLKS WATCHING THIS
  • 00:21:01.290 --> 00:21:03.050
  • RIGHT NOW THAT ARE NOT IN
  • 00:21:03.050 --> 00:21:04.110
  • SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA, YOU CAN
  • 00:21:04.110 --> 00:21:06.040
  • STILL PARTICIPATE BY GOING TO
  • 00:21:06.040 --> 00:21:06.250
  • HARVEST.ORG.
  • 00:21:06.250 --> 00:21:08.130
  • AUGUST 17 AND 19, THE EVENT IS
  • 00:21:08.130 --> 00:21:10.230
  • LIVE STREAMED.
  • 00:21:10.230 --> 00:21:13.000
  • IF YOU GET THE APP FOR YOUR
  • 00:21:13.050 --> 00:21:16.050
  • APPLE OR FOR ROKU BOX, DOWNLOAD
  • 00:21:16.050 --> 00:21:18.050
  • THE HARVEST APP, WATCH IT ON
  • 00:21:18.050 --> 00:21:19.080
  • YOUR TELEVISION SET.
  • 00:21:19.080 --> 00:21:21.130
  • WE SHOOT IT WITH H.D.
  • 00:21:21.130 --> 00:21:23.110
  • THERE'S A LOT OF PRODUCTION
  • 00:21:23.110 --> 00:21:24.010
  • VALUE IN IT.
  • 00:21:24.010 --> 00:21:25.020
  • IT LOOKS FANTASTIC.
  • 00:21:25.020 --> 00:21:26.110
  • INVITE PEOPLE OVER AND WATCH IT
  • 00:21:26.110 --> 00:21:27.040
  • WITH THEM.
  • 00:21:27.040 --> 00:21:28.140
  • YOU CAN SEND A LINK TO THEM AND
  • 00:21:28.140 --> 00:21:29.270
  • THEY CAN WATCH IT ON A TABLET OR
  • 00:21:29.270 --> 00:21:32.070
  • ON A PHONE, OR WHEREVER.
  • 00:21:32.070 --> 00:21:33.170
  • IT IS AN EVENT PEOPLE
  • 00:21:33.170 --> 00:21:34.230
  • PARTICIPATE IN ALL AROUND THE
  • 00:21:34.230 --> 00:21:36.180
  • UNITED STATES AND EVEN AROUND
  • 00:21:36.180 --> 00:21:38.010
  • THE WORLD AS IT HAPPENS.
  • 00:21:38.010 --> 00:21:40.110
  • YOU JUST SHOW UP.
  • 00:21:40.110 --> 00:21:42.200
  • HOPEFULLY BRING A NONBELIEVER
  • 00:21:42.240 --> 00:21:45.240
  • WITH YOU, AND PRAY GOD WILL
  • 00:21:45.240 --> 00:21:46.190
  • TOUCH THEIR HEARTS.
  • 00:21:46.190 --> 00:21:48.010
  • IT IS A GREAT CONCERT.
  • 00:21:48.010 --> 00:21:49.030
  • WE HAVE AMAZING MUSIC.
  • 00:21:49.030 --> 00:21:50.030
  • MERCYME, JORDAN FELIZ,
  • 00:21:50.030 --> 00:21:51.210
  • CHRIS TOMLIN, PHIL WICKHAM, THE
  • 00:21:51.210 --> 00:21:52.230
  • LIST GOES ON.
  • 00:21:52.230 --> 00:21:55.080
  • IT IS ABOUT GIVING THE GOSPEL TO
  • 00:21:55.080 --> 00:21:56.110
  • PEOPLE.
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  • - MATT: GIVE ME A COUPLE
  • 00:21:57.050 --> 00:21:58.190
  • STORIES YOU'VE HEARD OVER ALL
  • 00:21:58.190 --> 00:22:01.140
  • THESE YEARS OF SOMEBODY THAT
  • 00:22:01.140 --> 00:22:03.230
  • INVITED SOMEBODY THAT THEY
  • 00:22:03.230 --> 00:22:05.020
  • THOUGHT, THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN
  • 00:22:05.020 --> 00:22:06.030
  • THE LAST PERSON THAT WOULD HAVE
  • 00:22:06.030 --> 00:22:08.010
  • EVER SAID YES.
  • 00:22:08.010 --> 00:22:08.240
  • THERE HAS TO BE STORY AFTER
  • 00:22:08.240 --> 00:22:09.140
  • STORY.
  • 00:22:09.140 --> 00:22:11.090
  • AND JUST TRY TO FIND SOMETHING
  • 00:22:11.090 --> 00:22:14.050
  • IN YOUR MEMORY BANK ABOUT
  • 00:22:14.110 --> 00:22:17.110
  • SOMEBODY, THEY SHOULD ALMOST
  • 00:22:17.110 --> 00:22:19.030
  • INVITE THE LEAST LIKELY,
  • 00:22:19.030 --> 00:22:20.230
  • SOMETIMES THAT WOULD WORK.
  • 00:22:20.230 --> 00:22:21.240
  • GIVE ME GIVE A LITTLE --
  • 00:22:21.240 --> 00:22:24.040
  • - GREG: I'LL TELL YOU A TV
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  • STORY, THEN A STORY ABOUT A GUY
  • 00:22:25.030 --> 00:22:26.070
  • THAT CAME IN ON THE TV STORY.
  • 00:22:26.070 --> 00:22:28.040
  • HIS NAME IS MIKE.
  • 00:22:28.040 --> 00:22:29.260
  • HE WAS SUICIDAL.
  • 00:22:29.260 --> 00:22:31.040
  • HE WAS A VETERAN.
  • 00:22:31.040 --> 00:22:32.280
  • HE WAS IN THE VIETNAM WAR.
  • 00:22:32.280 --> 00:22:34.020
  • HE DECIDED TO KILL HIMSELF.
  • 00:22:34.020 --> 00:22:35.000
  • HE HAD A GUN OUT.
  • 00:22:35.000 --> 00:22:36.060
  • IT WAS LOADED.
  • 00:22:36.060 --> 00:22:37.090
  • HE PUT IT UP TO HIS HEAD.
  • 00:22:37.090 --> 00:22:38.220
  • HE WAS GOING TO PULL THE
  • 00:22:38.220 --> 00:22:39.110
  • TRIGGER.
  • 00:22:39.110 --> 00:22:40.070
  • HE WAS AFRAID.
  • 00:22:40.070 --> 00:22:41.050
  • HE PUT THE GUN DOWN.
  • 00:22:41.050 --> 00:22:42.110
  • HE PICKED UP THE REMOTE CONTROL
  • 00:22:42.110 --> 00:22:43.150
  • AND STARTED FLIPPING CHANNELS.
  • 00:22:43.150 --> 00:22:45.060
  • CAME ACROSS TBN.
  • 00:22:45.060 --> 00:22:47.250
  • THERE IT WAS, THE HARVEST
  • 00:22:47.250 --> 00:22:48.210
  • CRUSADE.
  • 00:22:48.210 --> 00:22:49.260
  • THIS IS '90'S NOW, WAY BACK.
  • 00:22:49.260 --> 00:22:51.240
  • HE HEARS THE THE GOSPEL FOR THE
  • 00:22:51.240 --> 00:22:52.160
  • FIRST TIME.
  • 00:22:52.160 --> 00:22:53.220
  • HE GETS DOWN ON HIS KNEES.
  • 00:22:53.220 --> 00:22:54.280
  • HE ASKED CHRIST TO COME INTO HIS
  • 00:22:54.280 --> 00:22:55.200
  • LIFE THAT.
  • 00:22:55.200 --> 00:22:58.150
  • THAT WAS A LIFE LITERALLY SAVED
  • 00:22:58.150 --> 00:22:59.150
  • BY THE POWER OF THE GOSPEL.
  • 00:22:59.150 --> 00:23:01.070
  • ANOTHER STORY SOMEWHAT SIMILAR A
  • 00:23:01.070 --> 00:23:02.250
  • SUICIDAL STORY.
  • 00:23:02.250 --> 00:23:04.040
  • A GUY NAMED EARL.
  • 00:23:04.040 --> 00:23:05.200
  • BORN IN TURKEY IN A MUSLIM HOME.
  • 00:23:05.270 --> 00:23:08.270
  • HIS FATHER WAS CRUEL TO HIM.
  • 00:23:08.270 --> 00:23:11.010
  • HE HAD A HARD UPBRINGING.
  • 00:23:11.010 --> 00:23:13.110
  • HE REBELLED AGAINST HIS PARENTS.
  • 00:23:13.110 --> 00:23:15.160
  • DID NOT WANT TO BE A MUSLIM.
  • 00:23:15.160 --> 00:23:17.010
  • HE GOT MARRIED AND GOT DIVORCED
  • 00:23:17.010 --> 00:23:17.270
  • AND INTO DRUGS.
  • 00:23:17.270 --> 00:23:19.160
  • ONE NIGHT HE SAID, I'M GOING TO
  • 00:23:19.160 --> 00:23:20.080
  • KILL MYSELF.
  • 00:23:20.080 --> 00:23:21.220
  • MY LIFE IS NOT WORTH LIVING.
  • 00:23:21.220 --> 00:23:22.190
  • HE TOOK ALL THE MONEY OUT OF HIS
  • 00:23:22.190 --> 00:23:23.120
  • BANK ACCOUNT.
  • 00:23:23.120 --> 00:23:24.130
  • HE WAS ON HIS WAY TO HIS DRUG
  • 00:23:24.130 --> 00:23:25.250
  • DEALER.
  • 00:23:25.250 --> 00:23:27.030
  • HE WAS GOING TO SPEND ALL HIS
  • 00:23:27.030 --> 00:23:28.070
  • MONEY ON A DRUG BUY AND
  • 00:23:28.070 --> 00:23:29.100
  • OVERDOSE.
  • 00:23:29.100 --> 00:23:31.070
  • HE WANTED TO FIND MOODY SCARY
  • 00:23:31.070 --> 00:23:33.230
  • MUSIC TO PLAY AS HE WAS LIVING
  • 00:23:33.230 --> 00:23:35.070
  • THIS CRAZY DREAM OUT.
  • 00:23:35.070 --> 00:23:36.210
  • HE TURNED ON THE CHRISTIAN RADIO
  • 00:23:36.210 --> 00:23:37.230
  • STATION.
  • 00:23:37.230 --> 00:23:39.230
  • IT WAS AN ACCIDENT.
  • 00:23:39.230 --> 00:23:40.290
  • HE TURNED ON THE RADIO AND THE
  • 00:23:40.290 --> 00:23:43.070
  • CHRISTIAN RADIO STATION POPPED
  • 00:23:43.070 --> 00:23:44.240
  • UP.
  • 00:23:44.240 --> 00:23:45.140
  • HE HEARD A SONG.
  • 00:23:45.140 --> 00:23:46.050
  • I LIKE THAT SONG.
  • 00:23:46.050 --> 00:23:46.230
  • THAT IS A GOOD SONG.
  • 00:23:46.230 --> 00:23:48.140
  • IT SAID, AND THEY ARE PLAYING
  • 00:23:48.140 --> 00:23:49.210
  • TONIGHT AT "THE PIT."
  • 00:23:49.210 --> 00:23:50.240
  • IN ALBUQUERQUE, NEW MEXICO.
  • 00:23:50.240 --> 00:23:52.250
  • HE WAS DRIVING BY "THE PIT"
  • 00:23:52.250 --> 00:23:54.220
  • WHICH IS A BIG AUDITORIUM THERE.
  • 00:23:55.090 --> 00:23:58.090
  • AT THE MOMENT HE HEARD THE SONG,
  • 00:23:58.090 --> 00:23:59.050
  • THERE HE WAS.
  • 00:23:59.050 --> 00:24:00.290
  • OH, THIS IS IT.
  • 00:24:00.290 --> 00:24:01.240
  • HE DROVE IN.
  • 00:24:01.240 --> 00:24:03.060
  • PARKED HIS CAR, WALKED IN.
  • 00:24:03.060 --> 00:24:04.260
  • THE MUSIC WAS ENDING.
  • 00:24:04.260 --> 00:24:06.150
  • HE HEARD ME PREACH THE GOSPEL.
  • 00:24:06.150 --> 00:24:07.200
  • HE WALKED FORWARD.
  • 00:24:07.200 --> 00:24:09.000
  • GAVE HIS LIFE TO THE LORD.
  • 00:24:09.000 --> 00:24:10.090
  • I JUST SAW HIM.
  • 00:24:10.090 --> 00:24:12.210
  • IT HAS BEEN YEARS NOW.
  • 00:24:12.210 --> 00:24:13.080
  • HIS NAME IS EARL.
  • 00:24:13.080 --> 00:24:13.270
  • I SAW HIM IN CHICAGO AND HE IS
  • 00:24:13.270 --> 00:24:14.200
  • SERVING THE LORD.
  • 00:24:14.200 --> 00:24:16.030
  • HE'S SHARING THE GOSPEL WITH
  • 00:24:16.030 --> 00:24:17.070
  • PEOPLE, LEADING PEOPLE TO THE
  • 00:24:17.070 --> 00:24:18.260
  • LORD.
  • 00:24:18.260 --> 00:24:19.290
  • THOSE ARE TWO STORIES OF PEOPLE
  • 00:24:19.290 --> 00:24:22.260
  • THAT WERE REACHED USING TOOLS
  • 00:24:22.260 --> 00:24:24.040
  • LIKE TELEVISION AND RADIO.
  • 00:24:24.040 --> 00:24:25.030
  • BUT, YOU KNOW --
  • 00:24:25.030 --> 00:24:26.210
  • THERE IS, OF COURSE, MANY, MANY
  • 00:24:26.210 --> 00:24:28.020
  • STORIES OF PEOPLE THAT WERE
  • 00:24:28.020 --> 00:24:29.100
  • BROUGHT BY FRIENDS.
  • 00:24:29.100 --> 00:24:30.020
  • NOT EVERYONE IS SUICIDAL OR INTO
  • 00:24:30.020 --> 00:24:31.120
  • DRUGS.
  • 00:24:31.120 --> 00:24:33.050
  • SOMETIMES IT IS A NICE MORAL
  • 00:24:33.050 --> 00:24:34.110
  • PERSON.
  • 00:24:34.110 --> 00:24:36.020
  • BUT, MATT, EVERYBODY NEEDS
  • 00:24:36.020 --> 00:24:36.230
  • JESUS.
  • 00:24:36.230 --> 00:24:38.280
  • YOU MAY DO A LOT OF HORRIBLE
  • 00:24:38.280 --> 00:24:40.140
  • THINGS, BUT ONE SIN IS ENOUGH TO
  • 00:24:40.140 --> 00:24:42.260
  • KEEP YOU OUT OF HEAVEN.
  • 00:24:42.260 --> 00:24:44.060
  • IT IS THE ANSWER FOR EVERYBODY.
  • 00:24:44.060 --> 00:24:45.270
  • - MATT: HARVEST CRUSADE IS
  • 00:24:45.270 --> 00:24:48.040
  • AUGUST 17 THROUGH THE 19.
  • 00:24:48.040 --> 00:24:50.130
  • AND THIS PROMO WILL TELL YOU
  • 00:24:50.130 --> 00:24:51.030
  • MORE ABOUT IT.
  • 00:24:51.030 --> 00:24:52.020
  • IT IS COMING UP HERE IN SOCAL.
  • 00:24:52.020 --> 00:24:53.260
  • MUSIC
  • 00:24:55.040 --> 00:24:58.040
  • YOU WANT TO REACH THE LOST?
  • 00:24:58.040 --> 00:24:59.020
  • THEN SHARE THE GOSPEL.
  • 00:24:59.230 --> 00:25:02.250
  • YOU WANT TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE?
  • 00:25:02.250 --> 00:25:04.170
  • LOVE THE GOSPEL.
  • 00:25:04.170 --> 00:25:07.010
  • YOU WANT TO START A REVOLUTION?
  • 00:25:07.010 --> 00:25:08.170
  • LIVE THE GOSPEL.
  • 00:25:08.170 --> 00:25:11.170
  • IT IS TIME FOR ANOTHER JESUS
  • 00:25:36.030 --> 00:25:36.240
  • REVOLUTION.
  • 00:25:39.200 --> 00:25:42.200
  • - MATT: AUGUST 17 THROUGH 19.
  • 00:25:42.200 --> 00:25:45.060
  • WE HAVE ABOUT A MINUTE LEFT.
  • 00:25:45.060 --> 00:25:46.120
  • WHERE DID THIS COME FROM?
  • 00:25:46.120 --> 00:25:47.290
  • WHERE DID YOU DO THE FIRST ONE?
  • 00:25:47.290 --> 00:25:49.150
  • - GREG: 1990 AT THE PACIFIC
  • 00:25:49.150 --> 00:25:50.050
  • AMPHI THEATER.
  • 00:25:50.050 --> 00:25:52.150
  • IT WAS THE ORIGINAL VISION OF
  • 00:25:52.150 --> 00:25:53.250
  • PASTOR CHUCK SMITH.
  • 00:25:53.250 --> 00:25:55.050
  • I WAS DOING A BIBLE STUDY AT THE
  • 00:25:55.050 --> 00:25:55.290
  • CHURCH HE WAS PASTORING, CALVARY
  • 00:25:55.290 --> 00:25:56.210
  • CHAPEL.
  • 00:25:56.210 --> 00:25:57.220
  • IT BLEW UP.
  • 00:25:57.220 --> 00:25:59.020
  • A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE COMING TO
  • 00:25:59.020 --> 00:25:59.240
  • THE LORD.
  • 00:25:59.240 --> 00:26:00.170
  • HE SAID, LET'S TAKE IT TO A
  • 00:26:00.170 --> 00:26:01.080
  • LARGER VENUE.
  • 00:26:01.080 --> 00:26:03.030
  • THAT WAS THE FIRST PLACE WE WENT
  • 00:26:03.030 --> 00:26:03.250
  • TO.
  • 00:26:03.250 --> 00:26:04.260
  • THE NEXT YEAR WE WENT TO THE
  • 00:26:04.260 --> 00:26:06.010
  • ANGEL STADIUM.
  • 00:26:06.010 --> 00:26:08.110
  • WE WILL BE CELEBRATING 30 YEARS
  • 00:26:08.110 --> 00:26:09.230
  • OF THESE CRUSADES NEXT YEAR.
  • 00:26:09.230 --> 00:26:11.230
  • IT IS OUR 29TH YEAR.
  • 00:26:11.230 --> 00:26:14.000
  • - MATT: AT ANGEL STADIUM OR
  • 00:26:14.000 --> 00:26:15.100
  • ALL TOGETHER AS HARVEST?
  • 00:26:15.100 --> 00:26:16.230
  • - GREG: PRETTY MUCH ALL OF THE
  • 00:26:16.230 --> 00:26:17.180
  • ABOVE.
  • 00:26:17.180 --> 00:26:19.050
  • THAT IS WHEN THE WHOLE THING
  • 00:26:19.050 --> 00:26:19.260
  • STARTED.
  • 00:26:19.260 --> 00:26:21.050
  • WHEN I STARTED IN THIS, I WAS IN
  • 00:26:21.050 --> 00:26:22.170
  • MY MID-30S, NOW I'M 65 YEARS
  • 00:26:22.170 --> 00:26:24.010
  • OLD.
  • 00:26:24.010 --> 00:26:25.020
  • (LAUGHTER)
  • 00:26:25.020 --> 00:26:27.200
  • - Matt: AND GOING STRONG.
  • 00:26:27.200 --> 00:26:29.080
  • - GREG: GOD WILLING.
  • 00:26:29.080 --> 00:26:31.080
  • - MATT: UNBELIEVABLE.
  • 00:26:31.080 --> 00:26:34.070
  • THIS BIBLE CONTROVERSY THING WE
  • 00:26:34.070 --> 00:26:35.290
  • STARTED TALKING ABOUT WITH YOU
  • 00:26:35.290 --> 00:26:37.100
  • AND THE BIBLE,
  • 00:26:37.100 --> 00:26:39.140
  • AT SOME POINT I THINK THEY DID
  • 00:26:39.140 --> 00:26:40.060
  • YOU A BIG FAVOR.
  • 00:26:40.060 --> 00:26:42.080
  • A LOT MORE PEOPLE ARE HEARING
  • 00:26:42.080 --> 00:26:43.060
  • ABOUT IT.
  • 00:26:43.060 --> 00:26:44.100
  • MAN, LOVE YOU.
  • 00:26:44.130 --> 00:26:47.130
  • - GREG: THANKS FOR HAVING ME
  • 00:26:47.130 --> 00:26:48.060
  • ON.
  • 00:26:48.060 --> 00:26:48.140
  • LOVE YOU TOO.
  • 00:26:48.140 --> 00:26:48.270
  • - MATT: LOVE IT.
  • 00:26:48.270 --> 00:26:50.130
  • WE WILL SEE YOU AT THE HARVEST
  • 00:26:50.130 --> 00:26:51.040
  • CRUSADE.
  • 00:26:51.040 --> 00:26:51.160
  • SEE YOU NEXT TIME.
  • 00:26:51.160 --> 00:26:52.050