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Matt Crouch hosts Anders Wisth from Stockholm, Sweden

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January 16, 2019
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Matt Crouch hosts Anders Wisth from Stockholm, Sweden

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  • (intense music)
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  • - [Announcer] In 1973, God spoke to Paul and Jan Crouch
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  • in a still, small voice to start
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  • a television ministry by faith.
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  • It was the call that would change their lives forever.
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  • Through their obedience, TBN grew from one little station
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  • to dozens of networks, thousands of cable systems,
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  • millions of viewers, and many stations
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  • and affiliates worldwide.
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  • After more than four decades of this calling,
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  • Paul and Jan have gone unto glory,
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  • but the television network that they started
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  • with a fuzzy picture and nothing but faith
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  • is now touching every corner of the planet
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  • as the vision continues and grows abundantly.
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  • One of the areas that was on their hearts was Scandinavia.
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  • - [Paul] God's not gonna forget the Scandinavian area
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  • of this world.
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  • He loves them, too, and he died for them, too.
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  • We're gonna have gospel Christian television up there also.
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  • I know it in my spirit, oh, hallelujah.
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  • I'm gonna run around the building here in a minute.
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  • I'm getting so excited.
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  • - [Announcer] That includes some
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  • of the most secular countries of the modern world.
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  • However, through TBN, Scandinavia is turning its face
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  • towards their roots of Christianity, revival,
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  • faith, and the gospel.
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  • - We welcome you to Stockholm, Sweden.
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  • We have some great announcements today.
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  • Brother Anders, first of all,
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  • TBH Nordic is maybe a new term for some viewing.
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  • Brother Anders, your connection to the TBN world.
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  • Let's start with how you found us or we found you
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  • and how that all happened, just not long ago.
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  • - Thursday evening, 20th of September last year,
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  • I got an email from your man in Turkey, Tore Pansell.
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  • And it that TBN are keen to find persons,
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  • connections in Scandinavia.
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  • Are you willing to talk?
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  • And as an entrepreneur, of course, I replied immediately,
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  • and I said, I'm here, what can we talk about?
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  • That's how we started.
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  • - If we connect the dots, then, Tore, Brother Tore,
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  • is with Kanal Hayat, a complete Turkish language
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  • television channel that's on the air.
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  • Brother Tore who connected us with Brother Anders
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  • is responsible for that channel, the Turkish channel,
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  • Kanal Hayat on the air 24 hours a day
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  • in the Turkish language.
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  • Brother Tore, who is the manage of Kanal Hayat.
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  • He's a Scandinavian gentleman.
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  • And someone approached him and said,
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  • is it possible to do a Turkish language channel?
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  • And he started the exploration on that,
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  • and the answer basically was no, no, no, and no.
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  • Well when he got his fourth no, somehow inside,
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  • that felt like God's yes.
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  • And we're standing here today now
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  • linking arms with Kanal Hayat,
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  • 24 hours a day Turkish language.
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  • When man says no.
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  • (laughing)
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  • That can be God's yes.
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  • He's chosen the foolish to confound the wise.
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  • 24 hours a day, Kanal Hayat is on the air.
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  • He then connected us to some more Scandinavians.
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  • Brother Anders is standing here in front of us.
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  • And this part of the world has an interesting history.
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  • So let's start back just a touch.
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  • What was Sweden like long time ago, 1.000 years ago?
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  • What was the atmosphere? - It was actually
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  • a heathen nation, vikings, you remember?
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  • - [Matt] Yep.
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  • - At that time when Christianity came here,
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  • it was a society, it was a country that was poor
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  • in all matters.
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  • Moral, everything, you know?
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  • And out of that, the Christianity came into our country,
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  • developed by the Catholic priests and so on.
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  • And then we had the reformation.
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  • Since then, we have seen how Christianity
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  • has been so deeply rooted into our society.
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  • We have really been a Christian country.
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  • And up until 1840 or something,
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  • the Swedish Lutheran Church had a strong impact
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  • over the whole society.
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  • And it was a collaboration between the rulers,
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  • the government, and the church at that time.
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  • And a lot of people felt that it was,
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  • they were oppressed by the church and the government.
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  • But at that time, 1830, 40,
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  • the holy spirit came on children and they started to preach.
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  • Small childrens.
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  • And they have heard the story about Christ.
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  • They weren't allowed to do that
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  • because if you should gather to pray or read the Bible,
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  • you had to have a priest with you.
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  • - [Matt] Oh my goodness.
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  • - And they were there, praying, seeking God.
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  • The holy spirit filled them and they started to preach.
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  • And by that movement of the holy spirit,
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  • also they got holy tracks from US and from UK,
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  • and they started to tell the story, sharing the good news.
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  • And that was the moment of revival
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  • that really changed all the society into democracy,
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  • into liberty, into equal feet.
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  • Everything came with the revival.
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  • - Okay.
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  • So that's a good story.
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  • That's good history that you had,
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  • almost what would have been declared a Christian nation.
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  • You have the cross of Christ on your flag.
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  • But this is really a mission field.
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  • Statistically, this is one of the least Christian nations.
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  • What happened from the time of, you know,
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  • the reformation til now, what happened?
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  • - We are reckoned to be one
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  • of the most secular countries in the world.
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  • God is absent from the scene.
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  • People are not aware of the Christian roots.
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  • When you talk to people here in Stockholm,
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  • asking about the religious roots,
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  • they're looking at you coming from somewhere,
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  • and they don't understand the roots.
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  • And what has happened is that this powerful situation
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  • that the church that lead the society slowly,
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  • and we have the buildings left,
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  • but we don't have Christ in them.
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  • And without Christ, you are leaving
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  • from a Christian nation, as you do.
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  • You are leaving your position.
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  • And that is what has happened now.
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  • - [Announcer] One of the first Scandinavian countries
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  • that became a part of TBN was Iceland with OMEGA TV.
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  • - We are here in Reykjavik, Iceland.
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  • (uplifting music)
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  • Basically in 1990s, Paul Crouch Sr. and Erik Erikson met.
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  • A transmitter was planted here.
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  • Some equipment was planted here.
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  • We planted a seed with Erik Erikson, OMEGA TV,
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  • right here, and many years later, we come back
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  • and understand that there are no longer seeds here,
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  • but a big fruit-bearing tree exists.
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  • Christian television is expanding.
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  • What is happening today in the island nation
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  • and beyond in Christian TV?
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  • - It's amazing.
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  • Of course, we reach now all Iceland, every single town.
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  • We have also been able to send signal to Scandinavia
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  • and to all Europe.
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  • - By satellite?
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  • - By satellite, on two satellite.
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  • And.
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  • - My dad would be so proud of you.
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  • - Yes, I know, I know.
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  • (moving music)
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  • - 24 hour a day signals.
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  • Four new networks because of digital television
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  • are on the air.
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  • Thank you to the TBN partners for the finances
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  • necessary to send this transmitter, the build out,
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  • everything.
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  • - [Erik] Revival is taking place.
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  • People are thirsty for something more
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  • than they have been used to, you know.
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  • We are very thankful for how God put TBN in our way.
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  • And made it possible to have a transmitter
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  • and reaching out to the people.
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  • Not only to Iceland, but to all Scandinavia.
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  • - We're walking down what you called Queens Way.
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  • This is one of the most vibrant tourist areas in Stockholm.
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  • - You have to visit here if you're in Stockholm.
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  • - Yeah, and it's a really kind of interesting thing
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  • to be talking about the subject that we're talking about
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  • which is the fact that this nation, Sweden,
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  • here in Stockholm, was at one point in time
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  • experiencing revival.
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  • At one point in time, sending missionaries out.
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  • At one point in time, vibrantly Christian.
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  • And as we walk through the streets now,
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  • this is one of the most secular nations in all of Europe,
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  • maybe the world.
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  • The statistics, in essence, are somewhat staggering.
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  • And so, continue your thought on,
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  • why do you think we're experiencing the need
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  • for Christian TV which now is thankfully on the air?
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  • - Actually not far away from here,
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  • during the Second World War, during the Depression,
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  • they built it, Navy Beatrice, the found of the,
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  • actually the leader the Pentecost movement.
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  • He built the big Pentecostal church during the Depression.
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  • Enormous investment and that only shows
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  • the vision that was present at that time
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  • for revival, for evangelism, for mission.
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  • And what has happened is that we,
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  • so many of us have been lukewarm.
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  • We haven't really understood the calling that we have
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  • to make an impact on our society.
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  • So we are getting a little bit silent,
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  • a little bit dull, you know?
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  • So instead of showing Jesus Christ to the Swedes,
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  • I used to think that walking here,
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  • asking if you need Jesus here on the road,
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  • and what would you ask him?
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  • And I think that a lot of people,
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  • they would not even bother to think that.
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  • And I believe that the need for Christian media
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  • or TV here is enormous because people are on the screens.
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  • The average of screen using for media consumption
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  • is 6.5 hours for day.
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  • - Oh my goodness.
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  • - That is the average.
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  • Then when you're talking about the kids,
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  • they are living on the screens.
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  • So we have to give Jesus Christ a place on the screens.
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  • So that is our challenge now.
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  • So looking ahead, here in the midst of Stockholm,
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  • I believe that we shall be focusing
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  • on proclaiming his goodness, his grace and hope
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  • to all the Swedes.
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  • - What's so great about what we do
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  • is we just simply do one thing.
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  • The scripture that says and I, if I be lifted up,
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  • will draw all men unto me.
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  • And so all we have to do, Brother Anders,
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  • on the screens here in this part of the world
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  • in Stockholm, Sweden, is just lift up Jesus.
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  • And he will draw all of the people to himself.
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  • So partners, thank you for what you're doing
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  • here in 2019 in regard to support Christian TV
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  • now on the air here in this part of the world
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  • on one of the biggest, most popular satellite platforms
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  • Via Sat channel 141 on the air right here
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  • in this beautiful part of the world, Stockholm, Sweden.
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  • - [Announcer] Alpha TV in Finland became the next
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  • major affiliate of TBN on Scandinavian land in 2013.
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  • - This is a very godless part of Northern Europe.
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  • Scandinavia.
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  • They have turned their backs on God big time, in a big way.
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  • And the only way that these people will ever come back
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  • to the lord is to hear the word of God,
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  • the word of the lord.
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  • (upbeat music)
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  • - [Kenneth] Yes, Scandinavia, Finland,
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  • Scandinavian countries, we are world-known
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  • for our secularization.
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  • The Christian faith has been pushed back,
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  • we have a traditional strong Christian faith
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  • in this nation, but we are being very heavily secularized.
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  • And now we are in a time when a new generation
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  • is coming up, seeking people.
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  • They are looking for purpose of life.
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  • Where is the foundation of our fathers
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  • that really built these countries?
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  • So this is the time, this is really the time
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  • to bring the gospel to the people of Scandinavia,
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  • and especially, I think, the young generation
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  • coming up at this moment.
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  • (upbeat music)
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  • - [Matt] You were standing with my father 1988, 1990,
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  • in Tustin, California, in our head quarters there.
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  • And 26 years later, we're still all at it.
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  • We're still doing the things of the gospel.
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  • Your thoughts from then til now?
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  • What's going through your mind now?
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  • - Well, this is just amazing.
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  • This is a miracle.
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  • The way God has worked over the years,
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  • the lord allowed us to be established
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  • as a production house for Christian programming here
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  • where we do programming for the Islamic world.
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  • We've done it for, we've been doing it
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  • for Russia for a long time.
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  • Ukraine, Central Asia, India, and China.
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  • But the time has come to bring these programs
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  • to our country in our tongue in the Finnish language,
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  • and to all of Scandinavia in the Swedish
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  • and Norwegian languages and the Danish languages.
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  • So this is something that is historic.
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  • I could never have believe in 1988
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  • that the day would come when we'd putting into place
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  • the building blocks for a TBN Scandinavia.
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  • This is a miracle that only God can bring to pass.
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  • - If you just tuned in, we are right here in Sweden.
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  • This part of the world, Stockholm, Sweden,
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  • will be in essence the figurehead location,
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  • the head of TBN Nordic, the foundational area.
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  • You live just outside the city.
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  • But we would look to have lots of production
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  • coming from this part of the world.
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  • It's a mission field.
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  • Behind us is the parliament.
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  • You have a prime minister, you have a king and queen,
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  • and that, which I believe are just in this building here.
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  • - We're just in front of the castle.
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  • - Okay, so just turn around, let's wave at the king.
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  • They could be looking out the window right now.
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  • Brother Anders, we have now come together,
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  • and we're on a direct to home satellite, called?
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  • - Via Sat.
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  • - Via Sat.
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  • So to the American audience,
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  • it would be kind of like DirecTV or Dish Network.
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  • But it's the primary one, the leading one here
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  • in this part of the world, in Sweden, okay.
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  • I see over on the parliament grounds,
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  • maybe some kind of field trip.
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  • Maybe it's a school field trip.
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  • My view here, I'm looking at some children
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  • being lead by parents or a teacher, something.
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  • They're getting a tour over here.
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  • What would those children be taught in school now
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  • about the Christian heritage?
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  • Or would it be absent from the books
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  • that children would be taught about this part of the world?
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  • - It's not actually absent,
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  • but it's equal to other religions.
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  • We're not lift our heritage in that way.
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  • We see, okay, we are Christian,
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  • but now we have a lot of Muslims,
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  • we have other religious groups that are coming
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  • into our country, and they are of course welcome,
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  • and they have to have the same position as Christianity.
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  • We don't lift our roots.
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  • And therefore it's so important for us now
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  • to show Jesus Christ to the Swedish and the Nordic audience.
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  • - It's almost like TBN Nordic will reintroduce
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  • the flag back to your nation,
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  • that the flag is really a Christian cross,
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  • a symbol was placed on your national flag.
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  • And maybe some people don't even know
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  • that that's what that is.
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  • Maybe they just think it's a graphic symbol of some sort.
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  • What do you think will be the flavor, let's put it that way,
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  • of Christian teaching and preaching
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  • that will get the attention of this part in Sweden here?
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  • - I used to say that TBN Nordic wants to give
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  • Jesus Christ the place on the screens.
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  • We walk to talk about life issues, and based on that,
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  • we will show the Christian perspective to it
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  • in a special way.
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  • And we believe, if I shall use a term called
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  • soft evangelism, we don't want to come
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  • and hit people with a Bible in the head.
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  • We want come with a lot of the TBN content
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  • is great in that manner, you know?
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  • - So TBN Nordic is really gonna be re-plowing the ground,
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  • re-digging the well to use a biblical term.
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  • Because you were worshiping Odin and some of the other
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  • just secular gods as vikings.
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  • These were the guys that were on ships
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  • and went and raided everybody and you know,
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  • that was your.
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  • - Yeah, yeah.
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  • - That was you.
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  • - Don't say so much about that, you know.
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  • - Yeah, just the viking type guys.
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  • And then came Christianity.
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  • Then maybe it transitioned almost into religion.
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  • And then the religion never really sustain.
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  • So our job is simply to shine a light on Jesus
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  • and who he is.
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  • And that's his responsibility to bring the audience
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  • to TBN Nordic, so really, it's simple.
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  • At the same time, there's a lot of work involved.
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  • It's really simple at the same time.
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  • - But can I tell, when I met you the first time
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  • in Tustin, when you told me that,
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  • it was the click in my heart because I believe,
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  • now with a secular society, with a lot of Muslims coming,
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  • our challenge is to lift the name of Jesus up,
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  • lift him up, some the love of Christ again
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  • to this nation, and we want to see change.
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  • - First of all, thank you to TBN family.
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  • If it wasn't for your support of this network,
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  • we couldn't lend support here,
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  • and start paying a bill on the satellite,
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  • and all this kinda stuff.
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  • But the idea that salvation is up to us is ridiculous.
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  • It's not up to us.
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  • All we do is what God puts on our heart
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  • to place on the screen.
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  • It's Jesus himself that draws the audience
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  • and the viewers and those that need him.
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  • And I don't know how all that works
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  • with predestination all this kind,
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  • but we work hard to do whatever we can do
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  • to put Jesus in the center,
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  • and it's up to him to do the rest.
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  • - [Announcer] Scandinavian countries are some
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  • of the most secular countries of the world.
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  • They believe that there is no God.
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  • (moving music)
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  • Their pagan gods with traditions and polytheistic culture
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  • are now looked at as myths and legends of a long-gone past.
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  • The Christian reforms and revivals
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  • are simply the facts of history today.
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  • Throughout the region, only a small percentage
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  • of the population believes that there is a God
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  • or some spiritual life force.
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  • TBN is now covering Finland, Iceland, and Sweden.
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  • But more lands of Scandinavia are in need of the gospel.
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  • - If we wound the clock back, Brother Anders,
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  • to April of 2017, what would we have been looking at
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  • right here on this street?
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  • What took place here in April 2017?
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  • - If we actually hold here because a man coming
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  • with a truck, the seventh of April on this road
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  • traveling north on the Queens Way, coming here.
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  • - This way.
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  • - Coming towards us in a big truck,
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  • hitting a lot of people in a terror attack,
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  • on this tourist walk.
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  • - Yeah.
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  • - Coming here and hitting into this corner.
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  • - Right here?
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  • - Yeah.
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  • - So the terrorist attack finished at this corner here?
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  • - And he just threw in there, and the idea was
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  • probably to have an explosion or something.
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  • That didn't happen, but he hit a lot of people who died.
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  • And it was amazing to see all the flowers,
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  • all the people gathering.
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  • And this was an enormous trauma for Sweden.
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  • You really not know how to deal with it, what to do.
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  • But this is a fact in Stockholm today.
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  • - [Matt] How has your nation dealt with
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  • the trauma of what happened on that particular day
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  • in April 2017?
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  • - [Brother Anders] That is very interesting because,
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  • what we now face is that a lot of media,
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  • a lot of decision-makers,
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  • they have to deal with religion again.
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  • So God is on return.
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  • Not especially Jesus Christ from a public perspective.
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  • How to deal with people's convictions and their belief.
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  • And if you don't believe that there is a God,
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  • you live in the secular society,
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  • you don't have the language of faith even to talk about it.
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  • You don't understand how much it can affect your life.
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  • So this lack of knowledge of faith affects our society.
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  • And that is also one of our challenges at TBN Nordic,
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  • to create a platform for talk, for conversation about faith.
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  • - [Matt] Yeah.
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  • - [Brother Anders] To get people to understand
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  • the language of faith.
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  • - If I understand you correctly,
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  • there's never anything good that comes out of that
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  • from that perspective, but, we all believe
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  • that all things work together for good,
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  • for those that are called and chosen.
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  • And if there's any good that came out of a terrorist attack,
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  • it was at least a national awareness
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  • that we have to think an eternity and life
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  • and God and godliness and the differences.
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  • At least you had a platform to start discussing it.
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  • - Yeah, that's true.
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  • And we are in a situation in Sweden
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  • where we don't actually have a language of faith.
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  • We don't have the understanding,
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  • how much faith can influence a person's both behavior
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  • and how important it can be.
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  • - So if you just tuned in, what we're talking about today
  • 00:23:48.180 --> 00:23:52.270
  • is the fact that a TBN Nordic channel is on the air.
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  • And when it went on the air in 2018,
  • 00:23:59.140 --> 00:24:04.100
  • it really went on the air in a secular world,
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  • in a secular society.
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  • So let me stop right here and just say,
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  • what the words on the street declaring here,
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  • embedded right here into the pavement?
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  • - [Brother Anders] It's a lot of different statements
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  • and sayings.
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  • To love is to give.
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  • Give love.
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  • So what are you actually doing for Sweden is loving Sweden
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  • because you're giving us a possibility
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  • to show the love of Christ.
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  • - We are in Stockholm, Sweden.
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  • The flag that is now partially blowing behind you,
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  • Anders, is azure blue and yellow,
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  • the cross of Jesus Christ on the national flag of Sweden.
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  • A lot of Swedes went around the world,
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  • and then some of those Swedes are now coming back,
  • 00:24:57.000 --> 00:25:00.210
  • second generation, and wondering kind of what happened.
  • 00:25:00.210 --> 00:25:04.250
  • - We had it on the national broadcast the other week.
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  • When they understand that we are facing
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  • a totally different country today, it breaks their heart.
  • 00:25:10.150 --> 00:25:14.240
  • They cried in the tees and what has happened?
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  • How are people thinking about religion?
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  • Jesus Christ is a religious God,
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  • when he's a life changing God, and those kids,
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  • they said, we have to come back and evangelize.
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  • And you are doing right now through TBN Nordic.
  • 00:25:30.140 --> 00:25:33.220
  • And I also want to tell the viewers in the US,
  • 00:25:33.220 --> 00:25:36.270
  • pray for right now.
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  • - There they are right there.
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  • - We want to see a revival,
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  • the revival that started with your ancestors,
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  • midst of 850 or so, we want to see it again.
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  • We want to see this country changed
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  • by the love of Christ, by the gospel,
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  • by the power of the holy spirit.
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  • And your prayers are vital.
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  • They are so important for us now.
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  • Stand with us, lift up our arms to see TBN Nordic
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  • now be the influencer of the generations,
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  • both older, middle aged, and the young generation
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  • with good news of hope, grace, and Jesus Christ.
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  • - Beautiful.
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  • Brother Anders, final thoughts on brand new Christian TV
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  • here in this part of the world?
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  • - It is a great challenge, Matt.
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  • We are praying, asking God for his favor,
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  • and we are asking of course a lot of people
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  • here in Scandinavia to be a part of it.
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  • We won't make it on our own.
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  • We won't make it even with your support.
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  • We will make it by his grace.
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  • - [Matt] Thank you, lord.
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  • - That is what we are depending on right now.
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  • And we are praying that he will open the doors
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  • that no one can close, and he will also close the doors
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  • that no one that can open.
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  • But we want to be here obedient for the call.
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  • We want to be a part of your mission with TBN,
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  • and that was what I felt in my heart when I met you.
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  • Here is the solution probably to both my calling
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  • for the TBN ministry and probably to reaching Sweden
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  • and Scandinavia and the Nordic countries in any way.
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  • - You realize we're standing here making this announcement
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  • in between the two powers, the powers that are vested
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  • in the king and the queen of this part of the world,
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  • and the powers that are vested in your parliament
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  • of this part of the world.
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  • The prime minister's residence is just on the other side
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  • of this building, and we stand here free to declare
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  • Jesus is on the airwaves, and it's Via Sat channel 141,
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  • on the air right here, 2019.
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  • Amazing new growth.
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  • - And he is the king of kings, lord of lords.
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  • And he is the real ruler.
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  • Isn't it true?
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  • - Yeah, they think they are, but there's another one.
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  • - Hallelujah.
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  • (uplifting music)
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