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February 1, 2017
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Matt & Laurie Crouch host from Los Angeles, CA

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  • - Matt Crouch: We welcome you
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  • to "Behind the Scenes."
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  • I'm Matthew Crouch.
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  • This is my wife, Laurie.
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  • And by the way, we're on that
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  • thing called Instagram, you know
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  • the little Instagram thing?
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  • And since we're doing--I thought
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  • of that just now because we,
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  • when we're in places like
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  • Budapest, Hungary, which we're
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  • going to be talking about today,
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  • we usually post pictures.
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  • And you know, if you want to
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  • stay up with kind of where we
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  • are in the world and what we're
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  • doing on your behalf, go to
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  • Instagram.
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  • Budapest, Hungary, interesting
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  • place that just asked TBN
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  • for a meeting, okay?
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  • So, we started getting some
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  • contacts, several different
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  • contacts that we--
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  • that we went to Budapest.
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  • Budapest is an amazing city, the
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  • Danube River, the Chain Bridge.
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  • And so, we stayed at a hotel
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  • near the Danube river, and we
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  • did a meeting there.
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  • Okay, let me tell you what my
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  • takeaway from this meeting was.
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  • It felt like everyone was
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  • hungry, forgive me for that, but
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  • they were hungry for Christian
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  • television.
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  • I mean, we're talking about the
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  • country of Hungary, I'm not
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  • trying to be funny here.
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  • I mean, seriously though, it was
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  • a meeting that they felt like
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  • Christian television needed to
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  • come there, and it needed to
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  • come there now, okay?
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  • That was my takeaway.
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  • Sometimes, when you do initial
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  • pastor leaders meeting, you
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  • know, they're kind of looking at
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  • you a little funny, and kind of
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  • wondering what you're up to.
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  • Well, the name Trinity
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  • Broadcasting, after being on the
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  • air for 44 years, you know, has
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  • a reputation of being a very
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  • evangelical, evangelistic,
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  • 24 hour a day service.
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  • And it felt like
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  • they were almost desperate
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  • for Christian television,
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  • an urgency in that meeting.
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  • And when, you know, you and I
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  • and Bob Fopma, our chief
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  • operating officer, we basically,
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  • you know, do a little bit of a
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  • tag team.
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  • We welcome people, we talk to
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  • them about programming, we talk
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  • to them about how other
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  • countries--in this case, when we
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  • were in Budapest, we were
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  • talking about Poland, and how
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  • aggressive the new Polish
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  • network and the group there, and
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  • Krzysztof there, and all that
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  • whole group is.
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  • And it was really, I think,
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  • inspiring for them to see other,
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  • you know, European countries
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  • that are really taking ahold of
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  • the thought that their country
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  • could have Christian television.
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  • And I was very--I was very
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  • impressed with the--with the
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  • desire and the urgency that I
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  • felt in that room.
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  • What did you feel?
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  • - Laurie Crouch: Well, you
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  • know, every time I'm in one of
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  • those meetings, I just go back
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  • to when Mom and Dad were
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  • building the stations here in
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  • America, you know?
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  • Those states now have turned
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  • into countries.
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  • And not just--not just being a
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  • part of the United States and
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  • Christian television, now it's
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  • part of the world.
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  • And these countries inviting and
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  • desperate for God, desperate for
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  • the grace of God.
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  • - Matt: And for their nation to
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  • receive and to get this--
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  • - Laurie: So, the opportunity
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  • is just--I mean, doors are
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  • opening all over the world, and
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  • it's at their invitation.
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  • It's, "Please come help us," you
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  • know.
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  • So, there's just so, so many
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  • open doors right now, and so
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  • many opportunities to step in.
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  • - Matt: And we want to take you
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  • to that meeting, and really let
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  • you experience what it was like
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  • to sit down with pastors and
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  • leaders, most of them needing
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  • translation, some of them
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  • speaking good English, and
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  • exploring the possibility of
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  • Christian TV for that part of
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  • the world.
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  • - Matt: First things first.
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  • We want to have you
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  • look at the camera here,
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  • and do a little wave to
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  • the Christians around the world.
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  • So, we are thrilled to be here,
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  • Laurie and I.
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  • This is our first time
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  • in Hungary.
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  • - female:
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  • [speaking foreign language]
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  • And our hope today is
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  • to see if there is consensus
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  • that Hungary could benefit
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  • by Christian television.
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  • With Christian television, you
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  • send the gospel into the homes,
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  • where you know better than
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  • anybody the hurt, the pain, the
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  • suffering in the homes of people
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  • around the world.
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  • We're not here to try to
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  • convince you to do anything.
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  • We are wanting to see if you're
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  • a group that wants some
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  • assistance with mainly technical
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  • side of what it takes to get
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  • this done.
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  • The first generation of TBN, my
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  • parents, were very passionate to
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  • see someone preaching on the
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  • air, and that signal of the
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  • preacher available to the world.
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  • That vision is complete.
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  • The next level of that vision to
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  • be complete is to not export
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  • that preacher from America any
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  • longer.
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  • The next level is that the
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  • camera now is in Hungary.
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  • And it must go to the face
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  • of a Hungarian.
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  • This face, this face, this face,
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  • especially this one smiling.
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  • The love of the Lord is coming
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  • through his face.
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  • We believe the next level is you
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  • reaching Hungarians, not our
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  • American ministries reaching
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  • Hungarians.
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  • Now, we will put a few programs,
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  • which would be translated,
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  • because globally we know by
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  • statistics that a few of the
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  • American ministries are very,
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  • very popular worldwide.
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  • I'll start with Joyce Meyer,
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  • beloved globally.
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  • She puts her program in I
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  • believe more than 50 languages.
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  • Household name.
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  • But we know that the primary
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  • source must be the ministries in
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  • Hungary.
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  • So, it's not about us.
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  • Jesus is relevant.
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  • Jesus is relevant
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  • to every issue, every problem,
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  • every good, every bad.
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  • Jesus is relevant.
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  • We lift him up, he does
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  • all the work.
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  • He gets all the glory.
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  • We hope that this group is
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  • assembled for the purpose of
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  • seeing 24 hour a day Hungarian
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  • Christian television on the air.
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  • - female:
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  • [speaking foreign language]
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  • It's not up to me,
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  • - Laurie: As you know, you've
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  • heard TBN started 43 years ago.
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  • And the mission has always been
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  • souls, souls, souls.
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  • - female:
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  • [speaking foreign language]
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  • And today remains the same,
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  • souls, souls, souls.
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  • And we love you,
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  • - female announcer: Hungary's
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  • history began in the early
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  • Middle Ages, when the Magyars, a
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  • semi-nomadic people from Eastern
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  • Europe, conquered the Carpathian
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  • basin around 895.
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  • Stephen I took the kingship in
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  • 1000, and converted the entire
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  • country to Christianity.
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  • The kingdom increased in power
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  • until the mid-13th century, when
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  • Mongol invasions routed the
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  • country, leaving half of its
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  • population dead.
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  • Subsequent Mongol attacks were
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  • thwarted by newly-built castle
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  • defenses and improved military
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  • tactics.
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  • Hungary continued under strong
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  • kingly leadership until its
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  • decline in the late
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  • 15th century.
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  • In 1526, it was overcome by
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  • the Ottoman Empire, and later
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  • divided into three regions.
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  • Then, after nearly 200 years
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  • of border disputes with the
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  • Ottomans, the Austrian Habsburgs
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  • completely conquered the area in
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  • 1718.
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  • After a period of many
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  • revolutions and reforms, Hungary
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  • became a part of the
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  • Austro-Hungarian Empire in 1867.
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  • During this time, Hungary
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  • increased in prosperity,
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  • becoming relatively modern and
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  • industrialized by the beginning
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  • of the 20th century.
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  • During World War I,
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  • the Hungarian side
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  • of the Austro-Hungarian Empire
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  • suffered devastating losses.
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  • In October 1918, Hungary's union
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  • with Austria was dissolved, and
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  • Hungary became an independent
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  • nation.
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  • During World War II, Hungary
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  • sided with Germany and Italy,
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  • yet wound up being defeated and
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  • occupied by the Soviet Union.
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  • The nation then became a
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  • communist state.
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  • Hungary attempted a revolution
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  • in 1956, gaining worldwide
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  • attention, but it was soon
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  • crushed by the Soviets.
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  • Communist rule in Hungary came
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  • to an end in 1989.
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  • Hungary opened its border with
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  • Austria, leading to a flood of
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  • refugees fleeing communism.
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  • With the collapse of the Berlin
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  • Wall and the communist movement,
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  • Hungary became a democracy, and
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  • is now a member of the EU and
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  • NATO, with a fairly vibrant
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  • economy.
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  • With 50% of the population
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  • claiming to be Christian,
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  • Hungary is a land well suited to
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  • - Laurie: You know what's so,
  • 00:11:27.180 --> 00:11:29.090
  • so amazing about this area
  • 00:11:29.090 --> 00:11:30.040
  • is that they're all saying,
  • 00:11:30.040 --> 00:11:32.270
  • "Boy, this is just the perfect
  • 00:11:32.270 --> 00:11:34.110
  • timing for Christian television
  • 00:11:34.110 --> 00:11:36.000
  • to come into Hungary."
  • 00:11:36.000 --> 00:11:37.190
  • And getting them even all
  • 00:11:37.190 --> 00:11:40.120
  • in unity and to come together,
  • 00:11:41.130 --> 00:11:44.130
  • it's just an amazing thing.
  • 00:11:44.130 --> 00:11:45.260
  • But they're--
  • 00:11:45.260 --> 00:11:46.140
  • I think they're ready.
  • 00:11:46.140 --> 00:11:47.100
  • I think in the spirit,
  • 00:11:47.100 --> 00:11:48.050
  • they're ready to step out
  • 00:11:48.050 --> 00:11:50.260
  • and to start TBN Hungary.
  • 00:11:50.290 --> 00:11:53.290
  • - Matt: What we want to do
  • 00:11:53.290 --> 00:11:55.000
  • today is explain to you, the
  • 00:11:55.000 --> 00:11:57.100
  • partners, kind of what a
  • 00:11:57.100 --> 00:12:00.020
  • fact-finding mission is.
  • 00:12:00.020 --> 00:12:02.000
  • Two hours ago, we were in a
  • 00:12:02.000 --> 00:12:03.290
  • small little hotel meeting room,
  • 00:12:04.140 --> 00:12:07.140
  • and we had, through contacts,
  • 00:12:08.230 --> 00:12:11.230
  • through Mike and Kathy Hayes in
  • 00:12:11.230 --> 00:12:13.210
  • Dallas, Texas, and some contacts
  • 00:12:13.210 --> 00:12:16.050
  • of an employee, a former
  • 00:12:16.050 --> 00:12:18.240
  • employee of TBN named Hope,
  • 00:12:18.240 --> 00:12:21.200
  • whose parents and whose family
  • 00:12:21.200 --> 00:12:23.110
  • were Hungarian, we got in
  • 00:12:23.260 --> 00:12:26.260
  • contact with several people here
  • 00:12:27.120 --> 00:12:30.120
  • in Hungary.
  • 00:12:30.120 --> 00:12:31.230
  • One of the things that this
  • 00:12:31.230 --> 00:12:33.080
  • reminds me of is what has
  • 00:12:33.080 --> 00:12:36.050
  • happened for TBN Poland.
  • 00:12:36.050 --> 00:12:38.230
  • TBN Poland is really taking
  • 00:12:39.290 --> 00:12:42.290
  • shape.
  • 00:12:42.290 --> 00:12:44.060
  • A lot of content is happening.
  • 00:12:44.060 --> 00:12:46.220
  • But a couple of years ago, we
  • 00:12:46.220 --> 00:12:48.230
  • traveled to Dansk, Poland, and
  • 00:12:48.230 --> 00:12:51.010
  • then to Warsaw, Poland, and we
  • 00:12:51.010 --> 00:12:53.170
  • had a few meetings with people
  • 00:12:53.170 --> 00:12:55.170
  • that started getting the
  • 00:12:55.170 --> 00:12:57.190
  • enthusiasm built among some of
  • 00:12:57.190 --> 00:13:00.090
  • the Christian leaders for
  • 00:13:00.090 --> 00:13:01.120
  • - announcer: In 2014, Matt and
  • 00:13:05.160 --> 00:13:07.090
  • Laurie and the TBN team
  • 00:13:07.090 --> 00:13:08.220
  • journeyed to Poland, and met
  • 00:13:08.220 --> 00:13:10.190
  • with a small group of people who
  • 00:13:10.190 --> 00:13:12.140
  • were dedicated to spreading the
  • 00:13:12.140 --> 00:13:14.080
  • gospel across the entire nation.
  • 00:13:14.080 --> 00:13:16.260
  • These initial talks gave way to
  • 00:13:16.260 --> 00:13:18.110
  • larger meetings, as more and
  • 00:13:18.110 --> 00:13:20.080
  • more people took hold of the
  • 00:13:20.080 --> 00:13:21.290
  • vision for 24-hour Christian
  • 00:13:21.290 --> 00:13:23.230
  • television in the Polish
  • 00:13:23.230 --> 00:13:25.100
  • language.
  • 00:13:25.100 --> 00:13:26.120
  • In March 2015, Matt and Laurie
  • 00:13:26.120 --> 00:13:29.020
  • again traveled to Poland as the
  • 00:13:29.020 --> 00:13:31.020
  • process to bring forth the dream
  • 00:13:31.020 --> 00:13:32.260
  • took an enormous step.
  • 00:13:33.060 --> 00:13:36.060
  • - Matt: Brother Krzysztof, what
  • 00:13:36.060 --> 00:13:37.160
  • is happening in Poland?
  • 00:13:37.160 --> 00:13:39.090
  • What is happening for TBN right
  • 00:13:39.090 --> 00:13:41.070
  • here, right now?
  • 00:13:41.070 --> 00:13:42.190
  • - Krzysztof Rompa: Today, we
  • 00:13:42.190 --> 00:13:43.280
  • signed papers at the notary's
  • 00:13:43.280 --> 00:13:45.100
  • office, and we started TBN
  • 00:13:45.100 --> 00:13:46.220
  • Poland.
  • 00:13:46.220 --> 00:13:47.240
  • - Matt: And the message that
  • 00:13:47.240 --> 00:13:48.250
  • we're going to give to the
  • 00:13:48.250 --> 00:13:50.010
  • people of all of Poland is what?
  • 00:13:50.010 --> 00:13:51.290
  • - Krzysztof: We will reach all
  • 00:13:51.290 --> 00:13:53.050
  • houses, and we will bring them
  • 00:13:53.050 --> 00:13:55.230
  • the gospel of love.
  • 00:13:55.230 --> 00:13:57.150
  • - Matt: There is maybe 35% of
  • 00:13:57.150 --> 00:13:59.190
  • the population going to church,
  • 00:13:59.190 --> 00:14:02.060
  • some in the Catholic churches.
  • 00:14:02.060 --> 00:14:03.260
  • Protestants, less than 200.000,
  • 00:14:04.090 --> 00:14:07.090
  • and there's 38-some million
  • 00:14:07.090 --> 00:14:09.230
  • people in Poland.
  • 00:14:09.230 --> 00:14:11.200
  • So, the idea that the message of
  • 00:14:11.200 --> 00:14:14.050
  • the gospel of grace needs to
  • 00:14:14.050 --> 00:14:15.250
  • - announcer: After the papers
  • 00:14:22.150 --> 00:14:23.090
  • were signed, TBN Poland later
  • 00:14:23.090 --> 00:14:25.000
  • moved into a car repair shop,
  • 00:14:25.000 --> 00:14:26.210
  • transforming the building into a
  • 00:14:26.210 --> 00:14:28.180
  • modern production and
  • 00:14:28.180 --> 00:14:30.000
  • post-production facility that
  • 00:14:30.000 --> 00:14:31.260
  • broadcasts the love of Christ
  • 00:14:31.260 --> 00:14:34.000
  • nationwide.
  • 00:14:34.000 --> 00:14:36.130
  • - Matt: TBN Polska, now on the
  • 00:14:36.130 --> 00:14:38.150
  • air 24 hours a day.
  • 00:14:39.120 --> 00:14:42.120
  • Welcome to TBN Polska Studios,
  • 00:14:43.140 --> 00:14:46.140
  • 24 hours a day you got to have a
  • 00:14:46.140 --> 00:14:47.210
  • studio.
  • 00:14:47.210 --> 00:14:48.230
  • That's what's happening here.
  • 00:14:48.230 --> 00:14:49.220
  • Okay, Krzysztof, we're wanting
  • 00:14:49.220 --> 00:14:51.130
  • to get the next phase of what's
  • 00:14:51.130 --> 00:14:53.130
  • happening now at TBN Polska.
  • 00:14:54.090 --> 00:14:57.090
  • So, today, we are now--
  • 00:14:57.090 --> 00:15:00.070
  • where are we?
  • 00:15:00.070 --> 00:15:01.160
  • - Krzysztof: We are in the main
  • 00:15:01.160 --> 00:15:02.270
  • place of TBN Poland,
  • 00:15:02.270 --> 00:15:04.160
  • it's our main building.
  • 00:15:04.160 --> 00:15:05.160
  • That's where we do the most
  • 00:15:05.160 --> 00:15:07.140
  • production and marketing work.
  • 00:15:07.140 --> 00:15:10.030
  • - Matt: Everything we see right
  • 00:15:10.030 --> 00:15:11.230
  • now you've done in how long?
  • 00:15:11.290 --> 00:15:14.290
  • - Krzysztof: It took us
  • 00:15:14.290 --> 00:15:15.230
  • 11 months.
  • 00:15:15.230 --> 00:15:17.030
  • - Matt: Eleven months.
  • 00:15:17.030 --> 00:15:18.050
  • So, the ceiling, the floor,
  • 00:15:18.050 --> 00:15:19.250
  • the walls, the screens,
  • 00:15:19.250 --> 00:15:21.250
  • the everything--
  • 00:15:21.250 --> 00:15:23.180
  • - Krzysztof: Wiring,
  • 00:15:23.180 --> 00:15:24.180
  • everything, plumbing, wiring,
  • 00:15:24.180 --> 00:15:26.030
  • and the area around,
  • 00:15:26.030 --> 00:15:27.270
  • that's what we were doing here.
  • 00:15:27.270 --> 00:15:29.180
  • - Matt: Okay, so TBN Polska,
  • 00:15:29.180 --> 00:15:31.230
  • now on the air 24 hours a day
  • 00:15:33.140 --> 00:15:36.140
  • - announcer: Today, these
  • 00:15:42.110 --> 00:15:43.120
  • initial meetings in Hungary are
  • 00:15:43.120 --> 00:15:44.250
  • kindling a flame and igniting
  • 00:15:44.250 --> 00:15:46.250
  • the vision for 24-hour
  • 00:15:46.250 --> 00:15:48.130
  • Christian television
  • 00:15:48.130 --> 00:15:49.240
  • in the Hungarian language.
  • 00:15:49.240 --> 00:15:52.060
  • With successes like TBN Poland
  • 00:15:52.060 --> 00:15:53.270
  • in hand, your TBN continues
  • 00:15:53.270 --> 00:15:56.000
  • to be relentless in its mission
  • 00:15:56.000 --> 00:15:57.280
  • to revolutionize lives all over
  • 00:15:57.280 --> 00:15:59.220
  • the world with the uplifting
  • 00:15:59.220 --> 00:16:01.250
  • - Matt: Today,
  • 00:16:07.040 --> 00:16:08.070
  • if you just tuned in,
  • 00:16:08.070 --> 00:16:09.170
  • behind us is the Danube River.
  • 00:16:09.170 --> 00:16:12.100
  • We are in Budapest, Hungary.
  • 00:16:12.100 --> 00:16:15.010
  • Budapest, and this beautiful
  • 00:16:15.070 --> 00:16:18.070
  • city, the beautiful kind of
  • 00:16:18.070 --> 00:16:21.050
  • amazing architecture, one of the
  • 00:16:21.050 --> 00:16:22.290
  • central European amazing capital
  • 00:16:22.290 --> 00:16:25.240
  • here.
  • 00:16:25.240 --> 00:16:27.000
  • We are in Budapest.
  • 00:16:27.000 --> 00:16:29.030
  • Okay, this is our first trip
  • 00:16:29.030 --> 00:16:31.050
  • here.
  • 00:16:31.050 --> 00:16:32.170
  • What we did is we met with
  • 00:16:32.170 --> 00:16:34.220
  • pastors just a few hours ago.
  • 00:16:34.220 --> 00:16:37.060
  • And, you know, I--my impression
  • 00:16:37.240 --> 00:16:40.240
  • of what happened in that meeting
  • 00:16:40.240 --> 00:16:42.180
  • was there was a genuine sense of
  • 00:16:43.060 --> 00:16:46.060
  • excitement.
  • 00:16:46.060 --> 00:16:47.270
  • And I told everyone that, you
  • 00:16:47.270 --> 00:16:50.100
  • know, "I want to make sure you
  • 00:16:50.100 --> 00:16:51.250
  • understand why we're here.
  • 00:16:51.250 --> 00:16:53.230
  • We're not here to bring or
  • 00:16:53.230 --> 00:16:55.230
  • export TBN or Christian TV into
  • 00:16:56.160 --> 00:16:59.160
  • Hungary.
  • 00:16:59.160 --> 00:17:01.090
  • We are--we are wanting to get
  • 00:17:01.090 --> 00:17:03.110
  • the Hungarian people excited
  • 00:17:04.080 --> 00:17:07.080
  • about getting Christian
  • 00:17:07.080 --> 00:17:09.100
  • television developed by
  • 00:17:09.100 --> 00:17:11.130
  • themselves, and that we want to
  • 00:17:11.130 --> 00:17:13.040
  • support you."
  • 00:17:13.040 --> 00:17:14.210
  • Now, you know, we come into
  • 00:17:14.210 --> 00:17:17.150
  • these meetings, and we have done
  • 00:17:17.150 --> 00:17:19.020
  • meetings like these in South
  • 00:17:19.020 --> 00:17:20.120
  • Africa, when we re-established
  • 00:17:20.120 --> 00:17:23.040
  • Christian television in the
  • 00:17:23.040 --> 00:17:25.100
  • entire continent through TBN in
  • 00:17:25.100 --> 00:17:27.100
  • Africa.
  • 00:17:27.100 --> 00:17:28.200
  • So, what we do normally is we
  • 00:17:28.200 --> 00:17:31.150
  • get a group of, you know,
  • 00:17:31.150 --> 00:17:33.090
  • leaders and denominational
  • 00:17:33.090 --> 00:17:35.110
  • leaders, there's dynamic
  • 00:17:35.110 --> 00:17:37.060
  • churches.
  • 00:17:37.060 --> 00:17:38.130
  • Faith Church here in Budapest,
  • 00:17:38.250 --> 00:17:41.250
  • Hungary, 10.000-seat auditorium,
  • 00:17:42.110 --> 00:17:45.110
  • senior pastor is a contemporary
  • 00:17:45.110 --> 00:17:48.000
  • of Pat Robertson and Lester
  • 00:17:48.000 --> 00:17:50.210
  • Sumrall, and those types, and
  • 00:17:50.210 --> 00:17:53.130
  • just a well-established, very
  • 00:17:53.130 --> 00:17:55.080
  • dynamic church, Faith Church
  • 00:17:55.080 --> 00:17:57.180
  • here.
  • 00:17:57.180 --> 00:17:58.160
  • And so, they had representatives
  • 00:17:58.160 --> 00:18:00.110
  • here, denominations were
  • 00:18:00.110 --> 00:18:02.080
  • represented, local churches were
  • 00:18:02.080 --> 00:18:04.010
  • represented.
  • 00:18:04.010 --> 00:18:05.190
  • And what I think the common
  • 00:18:05.190 --> 00:18:08.040
  • comment that I got back as we
  • 00:18:10.010 --> 00:18:13.010
  • were just kind of breaking
  • 00:18:13.010 --> 00:18:14.160
  • apart, and saying goodbye, and
  • 00:18:14.160 --> 00:18:16.290
  • getting comments, and getting
  • 00:18:16.290 --> 00:18:18.170
  • individual time with some of the
  • 00:18:18.170 --> 00:18:20.050
  • people--
  • 00:18:20.050 --> 00:18:21.010
  • - Laurie: Fellowshipping.
  • 00:18:21.010 --> 00:18:22.090
  • - Matt: Yeah, we were getting
  • 00:18:22.090 --> 00:18:23.140
  • what theme I wanted to try to
  • 00:18:23.140 --> 00:18:26.040
  • describe, and Bob Fopma, our
  • 00:18:26.040 --> 00:18:28.220
  • chief operating officer, and
  • 00:18:28.220 --> 00:18:30.190
  • what Laurie and I said, and what
  • 00:18:30.190 --> 00:18:33.000
  • I wanted to communicate was I
  • 00:18:33.000 --> 00:18:34.130
  • think Christian television is
  • 00:18:34.130 --> 00:18:36.110
  • going to, you know, for lack of
  • 00:18:36.110 --> 00:18:38.240
  • a better analogy,
  • 00:18:38.240 --> 00:18:39.280
  • Christian TV 2.0.
  • 00:18:39.280 --> 00:18:41.230
  • And we can export TV programs,
  • 00:18:43.220 --> 00:18:46.220
  • and we can export all
  • 00:18:46.220 --> 00:18:48.250
  • of the great American preachers,
  • 00:18:48.250 --> 00:18:51.040
  • and they certainly want
  • 00:18:51.040 --> 00:18:52.170
  • some of that content.
  • 00:18:52.170 --> 00:18:54.290
  • But the idea that Hungarian
  • 00:18:54.290 --> 00:18:57.020
  • people in Hungary, communicating
  • 00:18:57.110 --> 00:19:00.130
  • the gospel in a way that
  • 00:19:00.130 --> 00:19:02.060
  • they--that they understand it in
  • 00:19:02.060 --> 00:19:04.160
  • a much deeper way, is Christian
  • 00:19:04.160 --> 00:19:06.220
  • TV 2.0.
  • 00:19:06.220 --> 00:19:08.220
  • So, we're here.
  • 00:19:08.220 --> 00:19:09.290
  • We're telling you, the partners
  • 00:19:09.290 --> 00:19:11.240
  • of TBN around the world, keep
  • 00:19:11.240 --> 00:19:13.150
  • this part of Central Europe in
  • 00:19:13.150 --> 00:19:16.090
  • your prayers, keep the people of
  • 00:19:16.090 --> 00:19:17.280
  • Hungary in your prayers.
  • 00:19:17.280 --> 00:19:20.280
  • This was a communist nation.
  • 00:19:20.280 --> 00:19:23.050
  • It is no longer.
  • 00:19:23.050 --> 00:19:24.130
  • It has a very vibrant economy.
  • 00:19:24.130 --> 00:19:26.240
  • Fifty percent of the people in
  • 00:19:26.240 --> 00:19:29.180
  • this country would self-identify
  • 00:19:29.180 --> 00:19:32.020
  • as Christian.
  • 00:19:32.020 --> 00:19:33.110
  • A lot of those are Catholic, but
  • 00:19:33.110 --> 00:19:34.250
  • a very large, you know,
  • 00:19:34.250 --> 00:19:36.290
  • contingency of Protestant folks.
  • 00:19:36.290 --> 00:19:39.250
  • And this is really kind of--it
  • 00:19:40.240 --> 00:19:43.240
  • feels like this is, you know, a
  • 00:19:43.240 --> 00:19:46.050
  • perfect litmus test of Central
  • 00:19:47.050 --> 00:19:50.050
  • Europe, that Hungarians are
  • 00:19:50.050 --> 00:19:52.200
  • ready, they're ripe.
  • 00:19:52.200 --> 00:19:54.030
  • They responded to our challenge,
  • 00:19:54.180 --> 00:19:57.180
  • "You know what?
  • 00:19:57.180 --> 00:19:59.000
  • Christian TV needs to be here,
  • 00:19:59.000 --> 00:20:00.270
  • it needs to go into every home,
  • 00:20:00.270 --> 00:20:02.220
  • and you need to do it, you need
  • 00:20:02.220 --> 00:20:04.180
  • to love it.
  • 00:20:04.180 --> 00:20:05.280
  • We're not going to come and just
  • 00:20:05.280 --> 00:20:07.000
  • set things up for you, we're not
  • 00:20:07.000 --> 00:20:09.100
  • going to come and just do
  • 00:20:09.100 --> 00:20:11.040
  • everything.
  • 00:20:11.040 --> 00:20:12.080
  • We are here to simply present
  • 00:20:12.080 --> 00:20:13.230
  • the vision, let you know that
  • 00:20:13.230 --> 00:20:16.010
  • when you talk about the love of
  • 00:20:16.010 --> 00:20:17.260
  • God, the love of Jesus, the
  • 00:20:17.260 --> 00:20:19.230
  • grace of salvation through faith
  • 00:20:19.230 --> 00:20:22.080
  • and by grace, and people are
  • 00:20:22.180 --> 00:20:25.180
  • responding around the world."
  • 00:20:25.180 --> 00:20:27.180
  • Everyone got it, everyone
  • 00:20:27.180 --> 00:20:28.250
  • understood.
  • 00:20:28.250 --> 00:20:30.230
  • Everyone was excited about the
  • 00:20:30.230 --> 00:20:32.290
  • dynamic of having Christian
  • 00:20:32.290 --> 00:20:34.240
  • television right here for the
  • 00:20:34.240 --> 00:20:36.280
  • - announcer: The Republic of
  • 00:20:42.110 --> 00:20:43.060
  • Hungary is a landlocked country
  • 00:20:43.060 --> 00:20:44.130
  • in Central Europe.
  • 00:20:44.130 --> 00:20:45.290
  • Located in the Carpathian basin,
  • 00:20:45.290 --> 00:20:47.130
  • it shares its boundaries with
  • 00:20:47.130 --> 00:20:49.200
  • Austria to the west, Serbia,
  • 00:20:49.200 --> 00:20:51.250
  • Croatia and Slovenia to the
  • 00:20:51.250 --> 00:20:53.220
  • south and southwest, Romania to
  • 00:20:53.220 --> 00:20:56.070
  • the southeast, Ukraine to the
  • 00:20:56.070 --> 00:20:58.130
  • northeast, and Slovakia to the
  • 00:20:58.130 --> 00:21:00.190
  • north.
  • 00:21:00.190 --> 00:21:01.290
  • With a population of roughly
  • 00:21:01.290 --> 00:21:03.150
  • 10 million, it's one of
  • 00:21:03.150 --> 00:21:04.250
  • the highest populated states
  • 00:21:04.250 --> 00:21:06.130
  • in Central and Eastern Europe.
  • 00:21:06.130 --> 00:21:09.010
  • Hungary has two main waterways.
  • 00:21:09.010 --> 00:21:10.150
  • The Danube is Europe's second
  • 00:21:10.150 --> 00:21:12.230
  • longest river, and was formerly
  • 00:21:12.230 --> 00:21:14.250
  • a long-standing frontier of the
  • 00:21:14.250 --> 00:21:16.210
  • Roman Empire.
  • 00:21:16.210 --> 00:21:18.150
  • The Tisza River is notable for
  • 00:21:18.150 --> 00:21:19.280
  • being the resting place of
  • 00:21:19.280 --> 00:21:21.160
  • Attila the Hun.
  • 00:21:21.160 --> 00:21:23.060
  • Its capital and most populous
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  • city is Budapest.
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  • It occupies both banks of the
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  • Danube River, and is a
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  • significant global economic hub,
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  • with one of the largest regional
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  • economies in the European Union.
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  • Budapest has a dynamic, growing
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  • population, with a high quality
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  • of life.
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  • Hungary's largest piece of
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  • architecture, the Gothic
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  • parliament building, is located
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  • in Budapest, alongside the
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  • Danube River.
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  • Hungary has a continental
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  • oceanic climate, with hot
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  • summers of low humidity and
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  • frequent rain, and mild snowy
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  • winters.
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  • It features a terrain of mostly
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  • flat to rolling plains, but
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  • there are several moderately
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  • high mountain ranges.
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  • The country is rich in fertile
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  • agricultural land.
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  • Over 50% is used for farming.
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  • Hungary is famous for producing
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  • high-quality peppers, which are
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  • then made into paprika.
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  • Nineteen percent of Hungary is
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  • covered by forest.
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  • It has ten national parks, as
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  • well as many nature reserves and
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  • landscape protection areas.
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  • Hungary is a vibrant location,
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  • and ripe for the sowing of the
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  • - Matt: So, I think Laurie
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  • coined the saying of the day, is
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  • that they are hungry in Hungary
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  • for Christian television.
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  • And for TBN and for us to be
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  • able to be right here at the
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  • very beginning stages, the very
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  • first meeting and the
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  • formulation of what could turn
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  • out to be 24 hour a day
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  • Christian television, is
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  • amazing.
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  • We have the ability to put some
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  • Hungarian programming on Hot
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  • Bird, and on our TBN Europe feed
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  • that they could see here through
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  • satellite.
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  • And maybe that's the best way to
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  • go initially, but maybe one day,
  • 00:23:07.180 --> 00:23:09.180
  • this group will come together,
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  • and 24-hour Christian TV will be
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  • a reality.
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  • - Laurie: That's the goal.
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  • But you know what,
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  • they said something.
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  • They told us that in London,
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  • they've got the second largest
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  • population of Hungarians right
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  • there in the UK in London.
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  • And that sounds amazing because
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  • we have a beautiful, beautiful
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  • studio there, and they could do
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  • lots of programming there.
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  • - Matt: You know, the idea that
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  • Farsi-language programming,
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  • Arabic programming, Hungarian
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  • programming could be being
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  • created out of the beautiful TBN
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  • UK Studios right in your Wembley
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  • Stadium in London, big
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  • four-story building, three big
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  • flat floor studios, how about
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  • one of them being used for the
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  • Hungarian people?
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  • - Laurie: God has truly blessed
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  • us, and we have the opportunity,
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  • we have--the doors are opening
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  • all over the world really to
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  • start these networks inside of
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  • these countries.
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  • And it is, I mean--
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  • - Matt:
  • 00:24:08.150 --> 00:24:09.020
  • That's Christian TV 2.0.
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  • That is the next level, that we
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  • don't just export Christian TV
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  • from around the world
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  • and into a place--
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  • - Laurie: Or translating our
  • 00:24:18.280 --> 00:24:20.060
  • American programming into their
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  • language.
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  • It's them, to their tribe and
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  • nation and their tongue,
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  • reaching people with the gospel
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  • of Jesus Christ.
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  • - Matt: This preliminary
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  • meeting could be categorized as
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  • somewhat historic really because
  • 00:24:41.260 --> 00:24:44.200
  • there has been a history here in
  • 00:24:44.260 --> 00:24:47.260
  • the Budapest and the Hungarian
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  • people and leadership that they
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  • don't work so much together.
  • 00:24:52.180 --> 00:24:54.100
  • Today, there was a full
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  • cross-section of ministries that
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  • were representative.
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  • That's one of the great things
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  • about Christian television is
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  • that it can be a great uniter
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  • and not divider, that we're
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  • welcoming anybody that professes
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  • faith in Jesus and professes,
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  • you know, the death, burial,
  • 00:25:14.050 --> 00:25:17.050
  • resurrection of Jesus, and that
  • 00:25:17.050 --> 00:25:18.280
  • will, you know, obviously use
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  • the lessons learned that the
  • 00:25:22.060 --> 00:25:24.230
  • gospel of grace is lighting
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  • people on fire, that the gospel
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  • of grace is really the thing
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  • that is the change in people
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  • that we're seeing around the
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  • world.
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  • And so, the idea that Christian
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  • TV may be being birthed right
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  • now, some of the people that
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  • came up to us said, "I've just
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  • been working on some content,
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  • I've just been working on some
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  • programming.
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  • Our church is wanting to do
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  • this, we're wanting to get--"
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  • It just feels like today was
  • 00:25:52.150 --> 00:25:54.230
  • a very orchestrated and ordained
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  • day that we would be here, right
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  • now in the beautiful city of
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  • Budapest, Hungary.
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  • Our first time here, and behind
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  • us they call this Chain Bridge
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  • that leads into the part of the
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  • city where St. Stephen's church
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  • is, what a beautiful place that
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  • today, a historic meeting, I'll
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  • say it, it was a historic
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  • meeting.
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  • We had a really great
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  • representation and a group that
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  • came together, we prayed.
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  • And one day, we hope that those
  • 00:26:29.070 --> 00:26:31.040
  • prayers are just a seed planted,
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  • that a 24-hour signal is on the
  • 00:26:35.060 --> 00:26:37.060
  • air in Hungary.
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  • So, from the Buda side, looking
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  • across to the Pest in Budapest,
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  • we'll see you next time on
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  • "Behind the Scenes."
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  • - Laurie: Bye.
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